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Sen Barack Obama's speech yesterday addressing race in America has generated a ton of words from the media and hundreds of comments from our readers. The speech was necessitated by incendiary excerpts in sermons from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's longtime pastor.

The Post's Alec MacGillis and Eli Saslow attempted to assess the effectiveness of the speech and offered that it "drew praise across the political spectrum, though some on the right questioned Obama's assertion that his liberal agenda could unite different races. But many who heard the speech wondered whether it would be enough to calm the anger generated" by videos of portions of Wright's sermons.

Comments from our readers reflect a range of responses to Obama, from anger to praise, from support to revulsion. Political journalists have suggested that this speech was as important for Obama as John F. Kennedy's address to Baptist ministers in 1960 in which Kennedy explained that his election would not result in the Vatican moving to Washington. Some of our readers say that Obama is no JFK, others suggest that as a result of this controversy Obama cannot win the election, several say he could have repudiated Wright years ago but waited until now to do so, and others praise both Obama and the speech.

We'll start with meldupree, who wrote that "The comparison between Obama and Kennedy is not lost to this Obama supporter; ever since Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg passed her father's legacy and mantle to Obama in her endorsement in the New York Times' Op Ed piece, there has been something nearly surreal."

IIntgrty said, "... It is not right to back somebody who seeks to inflame the populace with charges of racism against whites. This scolding does nothing to bring the races together..."

Brenda3 said, "...I just spent some time talking to my father, and for him, a deeply religious midwesterner, it was crucial that Obama NOT turn away from his minister. For him, it was meaningful (and enlightening) to hear Obama talk about what, exactly, the black church means to him. Race is only one part of this rich story..."

Digitalman08 said, "The more I think about what was actually said in Obama's speech, the more infuriated I am. As if I, as a white person, have something to answer for when it is OBAMA that's been mentored by a hate mongering racist!"

But infuse wrote, "This was one of the greatest moments in my lifetime. It raises the image of Barack Obama to authentic statesman. His presence was genuine. His stature convincing. To scorn him for what others have said is one the things he is asking America to rise above. Unfortunately there is still a large segment in this country who will never see that light..."

dyinglikeflies asked, "Where in this speech does he even bother to address his own moral cowardice in sitting there for 20 years listening, without protest, to treason and hate?... The speech should have been an apology on Obama's part for staying silent when he should not..."

biswashira said Obama's speech "...is an American classic on race relation of contemporary America. He inspired me. Can you believe Hillary delivering such a speech?"

kalamere wrote that Obama "...says that
never in the entire twenty years did he hear Wright disparage any race. But
his poor old Grandma made him cringe??? This guy is outrageous and is counting on the left to makes excuses for him and Wright, plus he's set it up to make anyone who doesn't accept his view as being a racist."

nezbangi called it "An historic speech, one to be compared to Martin Luther king or JFK. Obama is a visionary. He'll lead this nation to greatness."

ridagana said, "...I honestly didn't hear anything of significance. In fact he kept on harping about hispanics and blacks still being set back in careers, income, and general acceptance in the US society. I found it boring. We all know by now that the US is every man for himself..."

thebobbob wrote, "I think Barack Obama demonstrated his superiority to both Clinton and McCain. That was eloquent, direct and real. No other candidate would dare speak to those issues and do so in such a straight forward manor. I want that man in the White House, leading America!"

alfaux said, "Surely we should not be judged on what we say but rather on what we actually do. Mr Obama recently gave a great speech and said all sorts of brave things - but he actually sat for twenty years listening to Mr Wrights drivel and did nothing. What says more about him - what he says now or what he did then?"

But JoeBewildered wondered "What poster on this thread has confronted every injustice that has presented itself in the manner they are criticizing Obama for not doing?... At worst, not confronting Rev Wright was a minor act of political expediency. Those of you who would condemn has candidacy for this need to get some perspective..."

ekim53 said, "Obama the Snake Oil Salesman"

shaman7214 wrote, "This was a speech on a par with those of the founding fathers, and epitomized what I like to think of as real American values, not the nonsense we've put up with through the last many years. Obama's speech took courage, brilliance, and true leadership. People can find in it whatever they see in themselves."

We'll close with zbob99, who said, "Barack's speech has resulted in the entire country now discussing race relations in America in a way we have never done before. That is a sign of a great leader."

All comments on the article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  March 19, 2008; 9:40 AM ET
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Posted by: rimeyr8pqr | March 26, 2008 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Personally I feel Obama owes me an apology. His redderick of stereotyping white people as typical white person is bull. I find that rather offensive. He couldn't even persuade one man named Rev Wright to change how the grunt does he think he can change a nation lololol. When he had the chance he didn't seem to think it was needed. He is not qualified. When a black man put a knife at my throat did I hold it against all black people? Is he stupid? Black white or purple that knife could of done the same amount of damage if it were not for some military men that happened to be at Hardees also and saw what was going on. IF I CAN GET OVER THAT OTHERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO ALSO. If that is the typical so called white response then Obama knows nothing and I hold him accountable for his words. If words from his white grandma made him cringe he is a bag of nothing for I would of much rather had someone call me cracker then put a knife to my throat.
Carolyn in NC

Posted by: carolyn | March 22, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

Personally I feel Obama owes me an apology. His redderick of stereotyping white people as typical white person is bull. I find that rather offensive. He couldn't even persuade one man named Rev Wright to change how the grunt does he think he can change a nation lololol. When he had the chance he didn't seem to think it was needed. He is not qualified. When a black man put a knife at my throat did I hold it against all black people? Is he stupid? Black white or purple that knife could of done the same amount of damage if it were not for some military men that happened to be at Hardees also and saw what was going on. IF I CAN GET OVER THAT OTHERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO ALSO. If that is the typical so called white response then Obama knows nothing and I hold him accountable for his words. If words from his white grandma made him cringe he is a bag of nothing for I would of much rather had someone call me cracker then put a knife to my throat.
Carolyn in NC

Posted by: carolyn | March 22, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Grant | March 21, 2008 12:41 AM

"If we can't elect Obama into office, we should be ashamed of having set our country back to the dark ages, forgive the wordplay , but it's a joke."

Yes, agreed. If Obama is not elected into office, it is not the Dem fault but his. He paid for his sin by overplayed the race card. A 90% of black votes speaks volume. Do we want to dispute that the voting in Missisipi was not racially slanted? Blame it on Hillary? What would you think if all the whites gave Hillary 90% of their votes?

Posted by: Substance | March 21, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

It's interesting that 'whites' have become a demographic that has to be discussed after having enjoyed simply being the majority.

How petty the backlash over the 'wright' comments. I'm sorry, but the budweiser class as it has been referred to are not angels, and I think on the other hand we should give them more credit.

If we can't elect Obama into office, we should be ashamed of having set our country back to the dark ages, forgive the wordplay , but it's a joke.

If Obama was behind, he would have accepted a vice-presidential position by now. The problem is Hillary. It's vanity. It's the injection with Bush and Clinton of Dynasty into a democracy.

After Katrina, 9/11, the stop-loss rotation of our troops, can we really be so shallow?

To berate some single pastor while the Jerry Falwell's and 700 Clubs of the world gladly pump millions into the republican party without condemnation.

Posted by: Grant | March 21, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Why is no one asking why Hillary refused to get rid of Geraldine Ferarro? If Ferarro hadn't stepped down, she'd still be on Hillary's campaign. That's proof right there that there's a double standard going on.

If Hillary gets the nomination instead of Obama, I'm voting for McCain or not at all. I've never voted Republican in my life. But I'll choose McCain over Hillary if it comes to that.

And for all the talk she said about her foreign policy experience, we see she lied. She helped Bill do NOTHING. Hillary is unscrupulous and a liar. But i guess because she's white, she's alright?

Posted by: Obama or McCain | March 20, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Why Obama failed in Philadelphia:

Mr. Obama's speech, in spite of its eloquent passages expressing his hope for better racial relations in America, is a mastery example of literary subterfuge, the broadening of the scenery whereby an object of inquiry becomes lost in the background, or more bluntly, the escaping of a slippery fish from a pond into a lake to hide better.

His speech is essentially a sophisticated lawyerly defense of Rev Wright's sin on the basis of self-defense. While Mr. Obama's understanding on the root causes of America's racial problems is quite apt, he attempts to portray that it is Rev Wright's racial circumstance, and it alone, that had led Rev Wright, with the inevitability of the fixed trajectory of a massive asteroid hurtling toward Earth, to castigate America and its other race with repulsive profanities. Thus, by Mr. Obama account, Rev Wright is a victim of the circumstance that he couldn't have avoided.

Mr. Obama states: "The profound mistake of Reverend Wright's sermons is not that he spoke about racism in our society. It's that he spoke as if our society was static . . . ," an apt analysis in view of his campaign slogan of "change" that will surely move the country out of the "static" stalemate under his leadership, but the truth is sadder and more personal.

Rev Wright, in spite of Mr. Obama's defense, is not a victim of his circumstance, the circumstance of his race, but of his own hubris, of his own failure to keep hope and faith in what is good in America and other fellow race. While racism still remains in American society, America does not espouse racism as a creed, and while racism still lingers among some white, not all white are racist. The sin of Rev Wright is that he lost his faith and hope in America.

And Mr. Obama's profound mistake in his defense is that Mr. Obama still sees America and its white race from the identity of an angry black intellectual who assiduously, in spite of his bi-racial background and unlike many bi-racial people who refuse to identify themselves with a race, cultivated his black identity at the exclusion of his white heritage, which he laboriously exorcised out of his soul, as his 1995 autobiography testifies.

His line: "I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community," clearly indicates where his loyalty still lies, to his intellectually cultivated vision of the unified black community, the community that men like Rev Wright mistakenly and pretentiously claim its leadership. But black community, like the white, are far more diverse, far less united except under the common American value espoused in our Constitution and the sense of patriotism for the land where our families and friends live, of which Rev Wright so flagrantly savaged.

For many black, Mr. Obama's mention of Rev Wright and the black community in the same vein in his own defense grossly misrepresents the entire black community. Indeed, to them Rev Wright represents the past, the past that black community must depart, as much as the white community must from its lingering racism. And Mr. Obama's defense of Rev Wright harks back to that unfortunate past, just as his conscious attempt to identify himself as a wholly black person (perhaps until his presidential bid) by abandoning his white heritage harks back to the unfortunate divisions of races precipitated by each individual's conscious attempt at finding racial identity.

The unfortunate truth of his speech is that he, while acknowledging the damaging nature of Rev Wright's pronouncements to America's racial relations, failed to address, worse, to understand the obvious fact that Mr. Obama's unflagging support of Rev Wright (that he is like Mr. Obama's family member, that he cannot be disowned) has done further damages to racial relations and will continue to do so.

This is the sin of Barack Obama: he stood there by Rev Wright while the Reverend was caught up in his pride as a stirring preacher, a vainglorious social critic, spewing out his tirade decrying of the injustice of the whole nation, of an entire race, and he said nothing, did nothing, and to this day Mr. Obama still stands by Rev Wright and does nothing, notwithstanding his speech, except to keep his faith in the Reverend.

It is an admirable act of friendship fitting for a private citizen, but it is an act unbecoming of a US president, for he must stand, not by his friend who failed his hope and faith in America, but by his country and all its people. This, in spite of his rhetorical eloquence, he failed, no, refused to do. His speech did neither heal America's racial problems nor of his own; indeed, he has become, to many Americans, a part of the America's racial problems, not the solution as he pretends. Mr. Obama, unwittingly, has become a racially divisive man, the Democrat's November Bogeyman.

http://the-unreadiness-of-barack-obama.blogspot.com

Posted by: GeorgePS | March 20, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I think it took great courage and high integrity to make the speech that Senator Obama made the other day - most people who are stuck on the sound bites have not seen or heard his response to them. I'm sure most people in his position would have simply denounce Rev. Wright like St. Peter did Jesus and accused him as being a racist and tried to move on - instead Senator Obama stood tall, firm, proud and presidential and gave the type of speech that only someone with his character, morals and integrity could have done - everyone thinks because Hillary rants, raves and constantly throws accusations, that she shows strength and Obama weakness, but strength is standing up in the face of adversity and confronting it head-on even with the knowledge that it could cost you the nomination to the Democratic Candice and the rare chance of being the first black President of this great country.

Posted by: George | March 20, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama never said he was in church or heard the exerpts played by the news media while he sat in Rev. Wright's church - why don't people listen to his speech or speeches he has given regarding Rev. Wright before accusing him of sitting in church for 20 years listening to these kind of hateful speeches - no one in their right mind will do that - obviously these clips do not cover the full 20 years of sermons that Rev. Wright have given over the years and again Senator Obama said though he has heard Rev. Wright give controversial speeches that he DID NOT CONDONE OR AGREE with, HE WAS NOT PRESENT AT CHURCH during the ones played by the news media.

Posted by: Jenny | March 20, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama never said he was in church or heard the exerpts played by the news media while he sat in Rev. Wright's church - why don't people listen to his speech or speeches he has given regarding Rev. Wright before accusing him of sitting in church for 20 years listening to these kind of hateful speeches - no one in their right mind will do that - obviously these clips do not cover the full 20 years of sermons that Rev. Wright have given over the years and again Senator Obama said though he has heard Rev. Wright give controversial speeches that he DID NOT CONDONE OR AGREE with, HE WAS NOT PRESENT AT CHURCH during the ones played by the news media.

Posted by: hmb | March 20, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama never said he was in church or heard the exerpts played by the news media while he sat in Rev. Wright's church - why don't people listen to his speech or speeches he has given regarding Rev. Wright before accusing him of sitting in church for 20 years listening to these kind of hateful speeches - no one in their right mind will do that - obviously these clips do not cover the full 20 years of sermons that Rev. Wright have given over the years and again Senator Obama said though he has heard Rev. Wright give controversial speeches that he DID NOT CONDONE OR AGREE with, HE WAS NOT PRESENT AT CHURCH during the ones played by the news media.

Posted by: hmb | March 20, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

i believe that obama has put his heart in tis election he desirves to win.he does not care about race and he could go down in history as the first black president.

Posted by: anonamous | March 20, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

i believe that obama has put his heart in tis election he desirves to win.he does not care about race and he could go down in history as the first black president.

Posted by: anonamous | March 20, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Though I respect the opinions of others, I am quite curious as to how many people have actually heard senator Obama's speech. I myself have not heard it, but looking at some of the comments I've read, I strongly believe there are others who have not heard the speech. Please understand that this is my personal opinion, and that I am, in no way whatsoever, attempting to attack anyone.

As for the comment posted by Maria: Was the use of the word "bigot" really necessary?

Posted by: Metalhead | March 20, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Last Friday infront of camera (MSNBC, can't be wrong), Obama said "...this is the man I have known for 17 years...he helps bring me to Jesus and help bring me to church...he and I has a relationship, he is like an uncle..." . Now we know he has an uncle that probably know everything about Obama. The uncle also probably know what Obama was doing before he met Jesus, before he was brought to church. Without digging into his past, he is just not vetted to allow informed voting. As seen from various comments and polls, many now have regretted their earlier actions. Shall we move on and putting the race-gate or Wright-gate behind? Who is Obama? We owe it to ourselves to ask this question again.

Posted by: Substance | March 20, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Though I respect the opinions of others, I am quite curious as to how many people have actually heard senator Obama's speech. I myself have not heard it, but looking at some of the comments I've read, I strongly believe there are others who have not heard the speech. Please understand that this is my personal opinion, and that I am, in no way whatsoever, attempting to attack anyone.

As for the comment posted by Maria: Was the use of the word "bigot" really necessary?

Posted by: Metalhead | March 20, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Jenny: Who blamed YOU for slavery?? Obviously you did not read my entire message. Did you actually read or listen to Obama's speech?

It's ironic that your very own words contradict your statements. You automatically assume that ALL black Pastors are giving preaches like the15 second snippet the news channels keep playing of Pastor Wright. What church do you attend by the way do any black people attend it also? Is Obama the only black politician you could name?

Jenny - black society has been EMBRACING WHITE POLITICIANS from day one. Black society has been forced to embrace white racist politicians for decades; why because they had NO CHOICE. Finally after a very long time white society is 'embracing' a black politician and we are supposed to be ecstatic? GET SERIOUS! Are black people supposed to feel elated that after 60+ years a black woman FINALLY gets an Oscar in a lead role? Are blacks supposed to feel complimented that black athletes are exploited and then denigrated when they enter a sport like Golf? Ask Tiger Woods how he feels when 'respectable' sports announcers say 'next they will have fried chicken on the green!' or 'his competition wants to lynch him!' - I could go on for days but I won't because it isn't necessary. You get the point.

Why for the life of me are white people so scared of black people?? What the heck you think a black person gonna do to you? I really want to know.
Seriously, I am not a racist. I have friends from all races and cultures. I may not understand or even accept some of their personal beliefs or religions but that has never stopped me from being their friend or vice versa. I have never looked at

FYI: Obama is bi-racial. Half-black/white. Why is NO ONE talking about his white side? How difficult this must have been for him to always from childhood to adulthood be forced by ignorant people to choose which race he identifies with? Because some people don't really care. All they see is a black skin, not the man and that is reason they will vote against him.

Posted by: Yvette Oneil | March 20, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse

These facts can be found on the website of the Library of Congress www.thomas.loc.gov. For those asking what Obama has done as a legislator:

During the first - 8 - eight years of his elected service he sponsored over 820 bills. He introduced
233 regarding healthcare reform,
125 on poverty and public assistance,
112 crime fighting bills,
97 economic bills,
60 human rights and anti-discrimination bills,
21 ethics reform bills,
15 gun control,
6 veterans affairs and many others.

His first year in the U.S. Senate, he authored 152 bills and co-sponsored another 427. These included:

**the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006 - became law

**The Lugar-Obama Nuclear Non-proliferation and Conventional Weapons Threat Reduction Act, - became law

**The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act, passed the Senate

**The 2007 Government Ethics Bill, - became law

**The Protection Against Excessive Executive Compensation Bill, In committee, and many more.

In all, since entering the U.S. Senate, Senator Obama has written 890 bills and co-sponsored another 1096.
An impressive record, for someone who supposedly has no record according to some who would prefer that this comparison not be made public.
He's not just a talker.
He's a doer.

Lastly and again splicing together a few speeches by Reverand Wright does not not sum up his 20 year career or provide any balance on his sermons. If that were the case right wing ministers Hagee, Robertson and the now deceased Falwell should have been defrocked a long time ago for their hate speech.

Posted by: chatterer | March 20, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Senator Obama has identified the only route to a future in which there is indeed equal liberty and justice for all in the United States. We MUST rise above our individual histories of abuse, malice, discrimination, and fear (hatred is based in fear) to work together on the immense complex issues facing us as individuals and as a nation.

The issues of health care, of stable jobs, of access to quality education, of fairness in laws, opportunity, security, and quality of life, are human issues, not issues of gender, race, ethnicity, religion, or age. They are OUR issues as Americans. The same is true for all on the long list of challenges we face. We face them together, united in will to find just resolutions, or we as a nation will be stuck in this place of stubborn self-focus, unable to reach the heights that our Constitution makes possible. Our Constitution provides the framework, but it is We, the People, who must rise to the challenge of being the best we can be.

As to the assertions by Rev. Wright that 9/11 is the result of our foreign policies, we should not fear to hear the evidence in support of such statements. For example, read Legacy of Ashes, The History of the CIA, by Tim Weiner. Other sources are plentiful giving documentation that sustains the assertion that the U.S. has a many-decades long history of interfering in the internal affairs of foreign countries whenever we chose, bringing political and economic hardship to their citizens. This interference has consequences to us as a nation. Bin Laden's warped view of the U.S. has been shaped in part by some of that interference.

Senator Obama offers the vision, the eloquence, the courage, the intelligence, the Life experience, the knowledge, the judgment, and yes, the hope, to lead this nation, as one people, to fulfill the promise of our nation's founding documents.

We as voters and as a people should never fear to learn truth. Senator Obama learned that long ago and he is willing to help bring the different perspectives of our nation's people into dialog on the challenging issues of our time. I believe we should join with him in that conversation and as we do so, look forward to a better future for all our nation's people.

Posted by: D. Stauber | March 20, 2008 2:14 AM | Report abuse

Robi: Well said.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 20, 2008 2:11 AM | Report abuse

It is unfortunate that many black voters are voting for Barak based on emotions. This is apparent because 80% of black voters support Obama, whereas it's been pretty divided between white voters choosing him or Hillary, and also because black voters in this forum are overlooking Barak's imperfections including his connection to Wright and his refusal to denounce him (and choice to attend the church for 20 years), something that should be demanded of any presidential candidate. I hope if he doesn't win the nomination that we can all come together and these voters will still back the democratic nominee. Elections are about calling candidates out on issues and demanding they answer appropriately and satisfactorily. This has been an extremely clean election process so far between Hillary and Obama, based on past elections. Obama needs to stop calling wolf and saying Hillary or anyone who questions him is being negative simply because they want answers, and tell us where he stands on the issues. I don't want to guess what our president stands for, I have a right to know.

I think it is unfortunate that Obama chose this time to write a lengthy speech and bring so much attention to the topic of race instead of doing what he should of and denounced Wright and moved on. Up until this point he was the most popular man in America, from the point of view of whites and blacks. There is no way the democrats can win against McCain now if Obama were to win the democratic ticket. The Republicans will have a field day at Obama's and all of our expense.

Our country has remained strong because we have repeatedly shown our ability to come together behind the winning candidate put our issues aside and move on. I've heard rumors that if Hillary wins, some black voters who support Barak will run to McCain to be vengeful. I hope this is not true as this would spell lasting disaster for the next four years and would be a threat to our democratic process.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 20, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

To Yvette: I'd be happy to go to a black church. But why would I want to if I have to sit there and listen to the pastor talk about how much everyone there hates me, as a white person? I've never heard talk like that in a church I've attended, and if I did I would have left in a heartbeat. Racist talk isn't acceptable anywhere if you want to beat racism out of our society. How about dropping "black" and "white" from conversation and we can all be one. The world IS changing, or was, I should say. My ancestors weren't here during slavery and I'd never accept it, I'm tired of being blamed for it. Look around you, look how much society, or "white" society as it has been put, has been embracing black politicians (Obama for goodness sake, up until now and for some even still, over Hillary), athletes, actors, musicians, and professionals. Actions speak for words.

Posted by: Jenny | March 20, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Obama and the media misguided voters and are promoting a trend of reducing the general intelligence of this nation election to a large scale sensational show lead by Opra, for their selfish gains. The country is facing unprecedented crisis, from wall street, to any street, with middle class getting increasing squeezed and poor getting hit harder by inflation that they deny having, by recession that's looming. Only Hillary with unequivocal devotion to the country best interest rather than her own personal interest (which she could have better off doing her own law career long ago), along with her skill and experience, can give the country the best chance. Voting any others for the sake of trivial likes or dislikes by journalists like you was what harmed the country 8 years ago. Remember the media saying Al is not likable and too robotic? Look at what the country got into now with Bush. Obama will lead the country into more racial divide rather than healing it.

Posted by: JJ | March 20, 2008 1:00 AM | Report abuse

I thought Obama getting so many white votes was a good indication of the colorless scheme America is becoming. What a better way to show support for race relations. Here we are walking the walk, while Obama's church is doing just the opposite. And, why don't we ever see his family? Michelle said she "met" his mother, what does that mean? Has he turned away from them? I think we need to know more about him, not just what he wants to reveal. He is good about glossing over topics and changing the subject. With this latest poor show of judgement there is no way he could win against McCain. You know the saying, careful with what you wish for. At least with Hillary we know what her skeletons are and she keeps on going, she will fight for us.

Posted by: Jenny | March 20, 2008 12:49 AM | Report abuse

What is strikingly racist or politically warped about this Obama attack is that the Democratic party to which Wright belongs have enjoyed his votes for more than the 20years they now attempt to blast Obama.

For more than 7years whoever made those comments today after Clinton has failed to overtake Obama in delegate count never found it important enough.

In essence, the core of the controversy is more about the comment regarding 9/11.

In the aftermath of 9/11, if Wright's comment was truely Anti-American as some people want us to believe - Wright should have been questioned about them.

What Authority did Obama had 7years ago to question Wright?

What did those with the authority and mandate to question Wright did about it 7years ago?

Now if it did not matter to anyone who cares about America that Wright said those words - to whom does this crap intend to serve? The Clinton? Only now that the Clintons are not benefitting from the "Black vote" that they try to sound more patrotic and distance themselves from a constituency they will need again after the nomination - be it Obama or Clinton.

Give us a break.

I hope you do post this one.

Posted by: Delta Juliet | March 19, 2008 11:10 PM | Report abuse

First may I say that Obama's speech was brilliant and honest and those who want to see it as something negative - please, try and grow up a little.

The thing that makes me laugh about all of this fuss is that it is happening at the same time that McCain made a MAJOR GAFFE in the middle east.

Here's the guy being promoted as having the foreign policy and war experience to lead the country and he trots around the middle east saying that Iran has been training sunni Al Qaida fighters in Iraq - when all the world knows that the charge has repeatedly been that Iran was supporting Shiite militias with training - Iran being a shiite country.

How can someone be the president and deal with this war in Iraq if he can't even get his facts straight about something as fundamental as this? He just disgraced himself and demonstrated ignorance for the world to see. That was no little gaffe, it was a major gaffe. McCain simply should have been aware and accurate on that issue and his failure to have done so inspires zero confidence.

Posted by: jaykay221 | March 19, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Truth is you don't encourage crap. You are censorous and you are a bunch of losers. I get more airtime on the Pundit Hill Blog. You guys are losers. You are the Washington Cowardly Post. No one can get truth from you, only on the net with alternative news because you are losers.

Posted by: Gary Anderson | March 19, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

I really must have a serious flaw with my computer. When I click on the link above to go to the speech, I see Obama giving a speech alright, but it is a speech completely unrelated to the issues the Rev Wright raises in the clips I keep seeing on the news.. I did not see one world on the issue of the US foreign policy being the main exacerbating factor in the rage and violence in the middle east. I did not see one word on the fact that it is the one-sided foreign policy with regard to the Palestinians that is causing blowback in an area of strategic importance. I did not see one word addressing the foreign policy implications going forward of this most fundamental root cause of a potential world tragedy.

Funny. Perhaps someone hacked into the site and put up another speech instead of his real one to miss-direct everyone from a truly important debate we might be having, and onto a tangent? Na, I think its probably just my computer. I will seriously have to get it looked at.

Posted by: Richard T. | March 19, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

As I listen to the pundits response to Obama's speech today, there seems to be one train of thought that they overwelmingly harp on. That is, how could Obama continue for 20yrs to maintain and have respect for a man who espouses such things.

Well I think Obama answered that question in his speech when he expressed that if that was all that he knew of the man then his reaction to him would be the same as the critics. If one thinks about this statement carefully, it's no different than the mindset of this nation toward it's founding fathers.

These are men who were every bit as duplicitous in their nature as Jeremiah Wright. They are men who had great vision and foresight to construct the founding documents that would be the glue that formed and held together the greatest nation on earth. Yet, at the same time that they embodied such greatness, they engaged in the most agregious actions of all time. They declared equality and justice for all while brutally enslaving and murdering people. Jefferson partook in the writing of the declaration of independence, while at the same time, enslaving, and committing adultry and pedophillia sleeping with a 13 year old slave girl, fathering her child, and enslaving that child. I could go on, but I think you get the point. So conflicted was his nature, that he himself declared "if there is a God, we're going to pay for this".

Despite their most agregious actions, this nation still holds them in a place of honor. Why? Because this country knows more of the men than those most agregious acts. This country has decided to denounce their most agregious acts, while paying homage to their greater good. Because their greater contribution to this nation has not stopped producing and serving us well.

Has Obama done anything different in his denounciation of Wright's most agregious transgressions, while still treasuring the greater good that Wright has provided in his life? I think not.

If this nation ONLY knew of the vile and agregious transgressions of it's forefathers, would their faces be on mount rushmore and would we be paying such tribute to them? I think not again.

I submit that we ALL have some measure of duplicity in us. Some measure of conflict that goes against the greater good that our overall existence produces, and if we are to be judged by our most agregious actions, to the exclusion of all else, then we should all be condemned--starting with the forefathers of this nation.

My 2cents

Posted by: Alisa | March 19, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Reading these comments, it seems as if black people think they were the only ones oppressed in human history.

This is going to open up a whole can of worms, but living in the DC area I've had more blacks say racist things to me then whites. I don't understand this, you talk about the horrible hurt and pain racism cause but then go and do it to others. You see black comedians making fun of every race and denigrating their women.

Posted by: Singh | March 19, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is this, throughout history White Americans have elected folks like Jesse Helms, George Wallace and scores of other OPENLY RACIST individuals to public office and proudly so. I do not believe for one minute Sen. Barak Obama is a racist man with a hidden agenda. White americans have to realize that the seeds of hate, anger and distrust were planted from the very beginning when they said all men are created equal but then chose to enslave those who were not of the white race.
As any one knows, you plant a demon seed, you raise a flower of fire ( stole that from Bono).
You can not oppress people and treat them ill willed and not expect there to be anger and resentment.
AMERICA, LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF TRUTH, WE STILL HAVE A VERY RACIST UNDERCURRENT TO OUR SOCIETY. FACE THE TRUTH AND DEAL WITH THE DENIAL. Racist exist in all colors, but white racism is oppressive and mean spirited and hateful and just look at the images from the civil rights era. Lynchings, bombings, willing to hurt women and children. I listen and shake my head when whites complains. The racist that created the culture of racial fear and prejudice are the ones to blame, and the lingering effects of that exist today because of those who feel a sense of entitlement because they are white.
When we ALL begin to treat one another as human beings and not skin color, sexes, ethnic groups, etc. then and only then will we learn from all of the past mistakes.
Sen. Obama used his grandmother as an example of unconditional love even in the most trying circumstances, you understand the place the individual is coming from and you move forward in love.
America, stop saying black folks are always complaining, ill treatment of anyone has lasting and deep wounds.
Just look at the pain of the individuals from Columbine and other schools felt when mistreated. What we do has an affect, we must learn to love, it is hard,but necessary.
And to end this, the white churches in the south during segregation did NOTHING to teach or preach brotherhood, those folks ministered to racist and some religious folk were in the KKK.

Posted by: Kim( Studio City, CA) | March 19, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is this, throughout history White Americans have elected folks like Jesse Helms, George Wallace and scores of other OPENLY RACIST individuals to public office and proudly so. I do not believe for one minute Sen. Barak Obama is a racist man with a hidden agenda. White americans have to realize that the seeds of hate, anger and distrust were planted from the very beginning when they said all men are created equal but then chose to enslave those who were not of the white race.
As any one knows, you plant a demon seed, you raise a flower of fire ( stole that from Bono).
You can not oppress people and treat them ill willed and not expect there to be anger and resentment.
AMERICA, LET'S HAVE A MOMENT OF TRUTH, WE STILL HAVE A VERY RACIST UNDERCURRENT TO OUR SOCIETY. FACE THE TRUTH AND DEAL WITH THE DENIAL. Racist exist in all colors, but white racism is oppressive and mean spirited and hateful and just look at the images from the civil rights era. Lynchings, bombings, willing to hurt women and children. I listen and shake my head when whites complains. The racist that created the culture of racial fear and prejudice are the ones to blame, and the lingering effects of that exist today because of those who feel a sense of entitlement because they are white.
When we ALL begin to treat one another as human beings and not skin color, sexes, ethnic groups, etc. then and only then will we learn from all of the past mistakes.
Sen. Obama used his grandmother as an example of unconditional love even in the most trying circumstances, you understand the place the individual is coming from and you move forward in love.
America, stop saying black folks are always complaining, ill treatment of anyone has lasting and deep wounds.
Just look at the pain of the individuals from Columbine and other schools felt when mistreated. What we do has an affect, we must learn to love, it is hard,but necessary.
And to end this, the white churches in the south during segregation did NOTHING to teach or preach brotherhood, those folks ministered to racist and some religious folk were in the KKK.

Posted by: Kim( Studio City, CA) | March 19, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

What's all this talk about Obama having to make this speach. Bull!! Obama needed to confess his sins and not only distance himself from those hatefull sermons. He needed to distance himself from his pastor. No way he says. I do understand why the biggot(obama) can't give up the part of his coalition left. The black racist vote.

Posted by: JCEdwardXP | March 19, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

In a set of "talking points" on the Trinity United Church of Christ web site, Wright proclaims himself an exponent of "black liberation theology." He cites James Cone, a distinguished professor at New York's Union Theological Seminary, whom he credits for having "systematized" this strain of Christianity.

Here is a quote from Cone, explaining black liberation theology:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

All of this is well documented on the internet and many find it very disturbing considering Rev. Wright's close relationship with Barack Obama and equally disturbing that Barack will not reject Wright.

Posted by: Alan | March 19, 2008 6:30 PM | Report abuse

The Racist(Obama) hates white America.

Posted by: JCEdwardXP | March 19, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama's speech was a very eloquent, nuanced examination of race relation in modern America. I've actually read comments about the speech calling him God-like, Messiah, perfect, etc. No exaggeration.

But all that divine eloquence cannot disguise the fact that he lied. He lied about being aware of Wright's comments, and he lied about leaving the church if he had been aware. He failed to reconcile how he could financially support and align himself with divisive rhetoric damning this country while campaigning on unity and hope.

I don't necessarily expect him to reject a long-time friend, but I do expect him to have been more outspoken about rejecting such divisive rhetoric BEFORE the bad publicity forced him to do so. Twenty years ago would have been good. If, in fact, he really is the candidate of unity, hope, change, etc.

My problem is that his speech, for all its eloquence, does not answer questions about his integrity or his ability to effect a change through action rather than just talking about it. I have no doubt that if Obama were to become President, we would be treated to beautifully nuanced lectures on the various complex problems plaguing this country that would everyone feeling justified about whatever they believed. I guess I just don't expect him to take a stand and act on it.

Posted by: Misty | March 19, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

What is the matter? You cannot allow a discussion of the failing of Jewish people here to understand the fallacy of American imperialism? Didn't you just write an article about how we went into Iraq for oil? And didn't the west do this sort of thing for the entire 20th century?

Tell you what, it is not illogical to be pro Israel and anti American imperialism. So I think Obama should have come down on US failings. Oh I forgot, he is running for president and he can't do that.

I guess we will save that discussion about American imperialism, most recently the voiding of legitimate contracts in Iraq, for another time.

Posted by: Gary Anderson | March 19, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

well, I've read about all of these repetitious remarks I can stand, and must observe that no one is going to change anyone's mind!

I'd like to point out that, as usual, everyone is conveniently forgetting the OTHER guy who comes from a group that was murdered,robbed and oppressed, who ALSO had to make a speech explaining how HIS religious views would impact his Presidency, and who got tired of "throwing good money after bad" in a campaign biased against him because of HIS religion: Mitt Romney.

Seems like the PC police has left only two segments of people "fair game" to bigots: Mormons and fat people...and fat people are unionizing...

Posted by: ldsmom | March 19, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

shawn and fred (and others): some instructions for you...look up the meaning of the word "nuance", then apply what you've learned to parse out the details of O'Bama's speech...if you still find that you're prone to making (pardon the pun) black and white and/or kneejerk statements about the man (i.e., "OBAMA IS A LIAR!" or "OBAMA IS A RACIST!"), repeat step one...if this proves inaffective, try to not to vote

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 5:54 PM | Report abuse

As a child of caucasian descent,I heard well educated, productive and loving adults disparage black Americans as a group, while still professing openness to all people. The white flight out of areas of Philadelphia was well known and discussed.

As a young teen, I was assaulted by two older black males for my money, but they ran when an adult black man stopped his car in heavy traffice on a busy street, got out, shouted at us, and proceeded toward us - that was all the man needed to do, and I was grateful he did that - I only had black eyes from two swift fists.

Later, as a high school student in 1969-1970, I did a term paper on Xenophobia, i.e., race fear and race prejudice. The roots of this go back thousands of years.

My conclusion to the term paper - racial prejudice will still go on.

In my military service in the United States Marine Corps, there was no tolerance for prejudice.

As an adult, I have heard hard working men call Donovan McNabb "that black boy". And, the rumors of the KKK in rural PA are well known to date.

Last year, as I was standing at Broad and Susquehanna in Philadelphia, PA while the girls shopped, a young black male walked by while on his cell phone, and I over heard him say: "There's a white boy here!"

My wife and I, at her substantial initiative, are the parents of six ethnically diverse adopted children, who are Causasian, African/American, biracial- African American/Caucasian, and Peurto Rican.

We have been often stared at. Yet, in Home Depot a few years ago, I stopped and stared at a young, causasian, white teen girl who called a distinguished black man "DAD."

Just 4 months ago, our oldest son, of African American descent, was frisked for suspicion of theft after shopping with his caucasian mother, whom I suspect the store personnel did not connect to our son, a boy whose honesty has been an example to me.

My conclusion - racial prejudice still goes on.

Now a question is raised as to whether Mr. Obama rightfully was silent in the face of racial triades by his pastor in the past.

I do not excuse his silence as an adult, since evil flourishes where good men are silent.

Yet, how many of us have had the courage to face wrong and fight it, while we go to school, raise a family and keep a job?

Do we really live what we say? Do we really struggle to be right in our thoughts, words and deed? Do we recognise that we fall short every day?

Now, we criticize Mr. O'Bama for his prior silence in the face of wrong.

Remember, Christ taught us to take the splinter out of our own eyes before complaining about the log in someone else's eyes.

I am still learning courage, more from my children than from my own acts. But for them, I would be much less good than on my own.

Wheher Mr. Obama is elected president or not, and whether he was really fully dispassionate in his speech, still he has begun publically what has been done quietly and secretly - discussing the mutual biases and prejudcies we all have experienced or have on our own and have left unchallenged.

We-the people, need to know all the people who make up we-the people.

As hard as it is and will be to do that, and for as hard as it is to confront evil and prejudice, there is no way around it - because just as it has done to Mr. O'Bama, the deferred problem only becomes bigger and snaps you from behind when you are least expecting it.

God help us all.

Posted by: Frank in PA | March 19, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

I am from India where we don't use family members as dispensable fodder to boost one's political ambitions. Obama cannot denounce Rev Wright, the man, because he is "family". Yet, he has no compunction at labelling his (white) granny as racist, a woman who not only raised him after his father deserted but who, in Obama's own words, loved him more than anything else. The spurious justification being that, as he still loved his granny (despite being a white racist), America should accept that he still loves Wright (despite him being anti-American).

In my book, this is cowardly, an act of a man who believes he can do no wrong. There would have been a dozen different ways for him to justify why he cannot throw Wright "under the bus". For a man who hardly acknowledges the white half of his family, (for example, where have been his white relatives on his campaign trail?), he throws his granny under the bus instead. His Granny is the only real link to his mother he has left. Shame on you, Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

So, JCEdwardXP?

Who is Obama a racist against, his black father or his white mother? Or is it his half-brother's Chinese fiance?

Or is it, as I suspect: None of the above.

Posted by: OffTopicMediaGroup | March 19, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

The lesson for the month... is that Martin Luther King was right, and those who came after him who went for a more divisive and hatred-bred speech were wrong. Look at how Americans of all spectrums are reacting to this debacle. We need more people to follow King, and follow him more closely. And secondly... actions speak louder than words. We need people who take action, put their money where their mouth is... and Barak that includes you.

Posted by: gecko from losangeles | March 19, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Wow, its amazing the ignorance that you people spout as if you actually listened to this speech with an open mind.Hell half of you probaly didn't even have the attention span to read the whole thing. Every one of you that has something spitful and negative to say had already made your choice before you read this speech. If anything this speech was about talking about the issue of race with each other. Not within your race but with everyone!!! His story about his grandmother wasn't about throwing her under a bus. It was about the nature of race relations that exist in this country which he countered with stories from the other racial side . I find it very sad that you people pick this apart because you can't get rid of the hate in your heart. Don't give me the drivel about those people or my people. You want those people to act right and live like your people try talking to them. Try learning something about someone who doesn't look or speak like you. That was why the civil rights movement was so successful, because all people came together. Ohh and a little bit of history for your ignorant brain, Malcom X was anti-white until he went to the Hajj, where people of all races went to practice their faith in God. Then he returned home with a message of untiy, and then he was murdered for it. Your right about one thing, Obama probaly will not get nominated. But it wont be because he isn't qualified, or white enough, or black enough, or a manchurian canidate. It will be because the American people are ignorant and will believe anythng thats served to them from the television set. And this Marine combat veteran will get sent to Iran because they will let themselves be sold on another phony story about how those people are the enemy. Even though the real war is over here amongst our own hearts and minds. If you think I'm a traitor, your welcome to come stand out in my front under my American Flag and see what happens. Oh and I'm catholic too, does that mean I'm a child molester.

Posted by: USMC | March 19, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I have two comments about the two issues at hand. The first comment about racism in America and the Second about Senator Obama's affiliation with Minister Wright.
First off let me start by saying that I have been a stark Obama supporter since the day he announced his candidacy. I have been criticized by many who question my loyalty to the Clintons and why I am supporting Sen. Obama. Many say that I am only supporting him because he is black. To that I respond in anger, because you are pretty much telling me that I am incapable of making a solid/sound intelligent political decision. I also, say, He is the best candidate in the Race. Many have said that I am in some way unfaithful and unappreciative to the Clinton's for all that they have done but I lost my respect for them as a high school student back when all of the allegations about Monica Lewinsky surface came out as well as the other imperfections of Mr. Clinton and Mrs. Clinton stood by her man. I am not holding a grudge nor am I unforgiving but I do not think that someone who cannot stand up to her husband for adultery and subjects her young daughter to a relationship that shows that you should stand by your man at all costs is not the person I want leading this country and is not the person I want representing me as an American.

1) As far as race in this country, I feel that Senator Obama's speech was necessary and long over due. I have not heard such a powerful message in my life from someone who is still alive and in the political position that he is in. He could have been just like everyone else and just hid under the covers or walked on eggshells but he said what needed to be said. He did what needed to be done for so long. There are many on this blog that claim that the are infuriated and don't want to feel like they have done something wrong, if this is what you feel then obviously you are guily of what he's talking about. The hidden and blatant racism that still exists in this country because people are too afraid to talk about it and deep down inside many don't want to change. I know that my statement will be unpopular, but the truth hurts. As Sen. Obama said, Minister Wright comes from a different time and place, he grew up in a turbulent time, when he was made to feel that he was less of a man/ citizen because of the color of his skin, not in some Third World Country, but in this Great Country of America. Although many will say that things have changed, African Americans are much better off than they have ever been, or slavery ended 200 years ago, get over it. I pose this question, how much has really change, yes I admit, it is illegal to lynch someone or murder someone and some of us are able to receive a higher standard of education and therefore are blessed with better jobs than those before us. But, it was just two years ago when a 16 year old female high school student in Texas was sent to jail for pushing a white woman. It was not even a year ago, when the gentlemen from Jena, Louisiana were about to spend the rest of their lives in jail over a school house fight that they did not start. To this day, none of the White young men who pulled guns on them in public or hung nooses to begin the incident have had charges pressed against them. While on the subject of schools, has anyone been to a public school in a predominately African American neighborhood and then left and went to one in a predominately White neighborhood? It's disgraceful that over 50 years after Brown vs. The Board of Education, I still have to send my sons to schools outside their neighborhood for them to be afforded the same education and facilities as others. If you think I'm over-exaggerating why don't you visit one of your local schools in the predominately, African American community and see the condition/year of the books, the quality of the teachers/staff, the condition of the buildings, the condition of the football fields and gymnasium. Stick around until school lets out and see the condition of the buses they are subjected to ride on. Then the next day, go to your local school in the predominately White neighborhood of your choice and see the difference. New books, fresh paint, new buildings, the best teachers money has to offer, state of the art football fields and gymnasiums. A vast difference. If you are ever in Houston, TX, why don't you check on Jack Yates and then go to Katy High school if you think I'm lying or over exaggerating. But enough on this, as I can go on and on, on this subject!

2)As far as him not cutting Minister Wright under the bus and totally disassociating himself, I totally disagree with the message but I know that you can't judge a man by a few sermons out of 20 years and his beliefs about Louis Farrakan. Just as Sen. Obama said, he knows not only the words that you and I hate but he knows the man that he and apparently, many others love. He feels that he is like family to him, then who are we to judge, I'm sure everyone on this blog has a relative that they see very often that makes racist, homophobic, or anti-semetic remarks. (Go ahead and deny it if you want but you know it's true). In my opinion, he would have been just like every other crooked and dishonest politician out there had he done that. By being honest and saying know I'm not going to disown my Minister/Uncle because it's the popular thing to do and it is what every other politician would have done, I feel that he did the best thing possible. For those of you who say, "how can he sit there and listen to that crap for 20 years and claim that he doesnt share these views?" I say, I have attended Windsor Village United Methodist Church in Houston, TX for 15 years now, I have heard my minister say controversial things about homosexuality (both good and bad), I have witnessed him pray for G.W. Bush's inauguration which I totally hated, and I have knowledge that he will be performing Jenna Bush's wedding, etc. I totally disagree with these things, but I know the man outside of the negative things. I know how he can uplift a community and give them a feeling of meaningfulness. I have seen him convert what some would stereotype as thugs into choir directors, videographers, choreograhors, and ushers. I know the man who has prayed for me and my family time, after time, in the wake of personal crisis. This is exactly what Sen. Obama says/feels about Minister Wright and although I disagree with what he said, I agree with his relationship with Sen. Obama. His views/actions have nothing to do with those of Sen. Obamas. You cannot judge a man by his friends, I don't care what anyone says. If this were the case, we would all be horrible people the day we were born! I also say, What Would God Do/ What Will God Do? Would he turn his back on Minister White/ Sen. Obama, would he send them to the fiery gates of hell? Not my God, My God is a Healing God, He's a Forgiving God and he would want all of us Christians to do the same. He would not judge Senator Obama's character because of what someone he is affiliated said/did, he would treat him as his on man and forgive anything that is wrong and show him how to make it right.

To those of you who say you will vote Republican if Sen. Obama wins the Democratic nomination I have a few questions for you: Can you truly afford the gas, can you truly afford the increased Interest Rates? Do you want your children/ grandchildren fighting a war that has been proven to be unnecessary over and over again? Can you afford these things? If so, please tell me what I am doing wrong, as I am a 25 year old, middle classed, college educated African American female. I am married, and have two sons. I make a decent living compared to others in my neighborhood, I'm pretty young and can't afford a huge expensive house, I live in an older predominately African American and Hispanic neighborhood. I work for one of the largest banks in America. I have a 401 K plan and had been saving in my personal savings accounts until this year when gas prices skyrocketed and my mortgage went up $100/ month. I would go out and try to get another job but with jobs being shipped overseas day after day, I need to keep my seniority. So please don't think that I'm just some Angry black women looking for a handout!

Posted by: Crystal | March 19, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

WOULD YOU FOLKS JUDGE HILLARY BASED ON HER HUSBAND'S MORAL COMPASS? WOULD YOU JUDGE BILL CLINTON BASED ON HIS BROTHER'S DRUG USE? WOULD YOU JUDGE GEORGE W. BASED ON HIS DUI (AN OFFENSE, I'D ADD THAT ACTUALLY ENDANGERED OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES)? WOULD YOU JUDGE W. ON THE FACT THAT HE CHALLENGED HIS FATHER TO A FIGHT IN THE FRONT YARD WHEN HE WAS DRUNK AND 20 SOMETHING. OBAMA CLEARLY IS HIS OWN PERSON, CAPABLE OR FORMULATING HIS OWN IDEAS; I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD DENY THAT. WE ALL HAVE PEOPLE IN OUR LIVES THAT WE'RE CLOSE TO, BUT THAT WE WOULD NOT WANT TO BE JUDGED ON. CUT THE GUY SOME SLACK. SERIOUSLY, CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING CRITISIZED AS MUCH AS OBAMA HAS BEEN CRITICIZED IN THE LAST WEEK FOR A FREINDSHIP YOU HAD, OR THE BEHAVIOR OF A RELATIVE YOU LOVE, BUT DON'T ALWAYS AGREE WITH. WOULD CHENEY WANT CONSERVATIVES TO JUDGE HIM BASED ON HIS DAUGHTER'S SEXUAL ORIENTATION. THE FACT THAT WE'VE SPENT ALL THIS TIME ON THE TOPIC SUGGESTS TO ME WE'VE ALL GOT TO FIND BETTER THINGS TO DO TO OCCUPY OUR TIME. HOW ABOUT A WAR THAT'S KILLED 4,000 PEOPLE, AN ECONOMY STARTING AT ONE OF THE WORST RECESSIONS IN THE LAST SEVERAL DECADES.

Posted by: CD | March 19, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Fred:

I know we're all vibing off wach other here, and I'm looking at Obama's speech as successful because look at how much we're talking about race now. I think we're all genuinely grappling with this issue, some of us on a more marure and thoughtful level than others.

He HAD to make that speech. Rev, Wright was the one brought it out of him, but he would have made it sooner or later because look at Penn. gov. Rundell, he acknowledged that there are people in his state right now, that no matter how qualified Obama may be, they're STILL not going to vote for him because he's black.

Black people don't have those choices. They had to vote (or accept) what's given to them. Why can't everybody see that the very thing

Someone said that Obama is contributing to the racial divide. How stupid a comment is that. The "racial divide" existed well before. His mixed roots are living proof that races can unify -- even on a more profund level than just sex.

You're missing the point on the government, I don't think Reverend was making a sweeping statement about all white people. He's too smart for that, and I don't really thinks all white people are bad. And looking at his congregation, while I don't agree with what he said, it's his job to address things that ail his black community, and I'm sure racism is one them. We can't always be elquoent when we speak, and I'm not excusing what he said. But does anybody on this board understand why he said. Just like Obama said we're all so quick to cry racism, both black and white people and everywhere in between. Why did Ferarro say what she said? I think she said it out of frustration because I don't believe on some levels that Obama is all that lucky because look at the trouble he's having now, having to explain why someone ELSE said what they said. And historically being black has been a liability to some people wanting to further themselves. Just because I've got two master's degrees, am going for a PhD, and I've been raised in affluence, people want to say I think I'm this or that. Why? WHY?

Obama is lucky in the sense that (like me) as a biracial person, he can more genuinely bridge a racial gap because he was born from both sides. And he's lucky to be born now rather than 200 years ago, when there was no equality for blacks--biracial or not. You guys need to sit with some older black folks and let them tell you stories about growing up in the south. Of not being able to talk bad to the white man even when the white man was wrong. Or read the slave narratives when they worked from sun-up to sundown for pennies a day. Or having one of their children taken from them because the child was sold off to pay for the master's debt -- not the slaves. That's history that all of need to remember not to dwell for tension but to move forward with more empathy.

The black church has been a source of strength and look back on slavery for a minute. When those slaves had nothing else to call their own, they had the church and many of them that's all they prayed for was death because they knew the life they were leading wasn't paradise. And maybe God would finally give them that when they died. That's where many of those spirituals come from. They had NOTHING, many of them.

I know we're all sharing views.

But in all honesty, we cannot really know the pain that Rev. Wright has suffered for him to say what he said. Look at Mel Gibson. Look at the state he was in when he said what he said.

I don't think you can fault Malcolm entirely because he was still treated as n*gger despite his mother roots. And I'm sure that influenced him to feel the way he felt.

I'm sure if he was here now, he'd have a different perspective because he was actually distancing himself from the Nation of Islam, and yes we have made progress since then. But all of us still have a ways to go.

It saddens me to read all of this stuff because these candidates have so many issues to juggle. I would never want to run for office because I can't imagine the scrutiny they must feel. For all the tribulations he's going thru, Obama's doing a standup job. And like I said I can't imagine any of us on this board doing any better.

Posted by: OffTopicMediaGroup | March 19, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Fred:

I know we're all vibing off wach other here, and I'm looking at Obama's speech as successful because look at how much we're talking about race now. I think we're all genuinely grappling with this issue, some of us on a more marure and thoughtful level than others.

He HAD to make that speech. Rev, Wright was the one brought it out of him, but he would have made it sooner or later because look at Penn. gov. Rundell, he acknowledged that there are people in his state right now, that no matter how qualified Obama may be, they're STILL not going to vote for him because he's black.

Black people don't have those choices. They had to vote (or accept) what's given to them. Why can't everybody see that the very thing

Someone said that Obama is contributing to the racial divide. How stupid a comment is that. The "racial divide" existed well before. His mixed roots are living proof that races can unify -- even on a more profund level than just sex.

You're missing the point on the government, I don't think Reverend was making a sweeping statement about all white people. He's too smart for that, and I don't really thinks all white people are bad. And looking at his congregation, while I don't agree with what he said, it's his job to address things that ail his black community, and I'm sure racism is one them. We can't always be elquoent when we speak, and I'm not excusing what he said. But does anybody on this board understand why he said. Just like Obama said we're all so quick to cry racism, both black and white people and everywhere in between. Why did Ferarro say what she said? I think she said it out of frustration because I don't believe on some levels that Obama is all that lucky because look at the trouble he's having now, having to explain why someone ELSE said what they said. And historically being black has been a liability to some people wanting to further themselves. Just because I've got two master's degrees, am going for a PhD, and I've been raised in affluence, people want to say I think I'm this or that. Why? WHY?

Obama is lucky in the sense that (like me) as a biracial person, he can more genuinely bridge a racial gap because he was born from both sides. And he's lucky to be born now rather than 200 years ago, when there was no equality for blacks--biracial or not. You guys need to sit with some older black folks and let them tell you stories about growing up in the south. Of not being able to talk bad to the white man even when the white man was wrong. Or read the slave narratives when they worked from sun-up to sundown for pennies a day. Or having one of their children taken from them because the child was sold off to pay for the master's debt -- not the slaves. That's history that all of need to remember not to dwell for tension but to move forward with more empathy.

The black church has been a source of strength and look back on slavery for a minute. When those slaves had nothing else to call their own, they had the church and many of them that's all they prayed for was death because they knew the life they were leading wasn't paradise. And maybe God would finally give them that when they died. That's where many of those spirituals come from. They had NOTHING, many of them.

I know we're all sharing views.

But in all honesty, we cannot really know the pain that Rev. Wright has suffered for him to say what he said. Look at Mel Gibson. Look at the state he was in when he said what he said.

I don't think you can fault Malcolm entirely because he was still treated as n*gger despite his mother roots. And I'm sure that influenced him to feel the way he felt.

I'm sure if he was here now, he'd have a different perspective because he was actually distancing himself from the Nation of Islam, and yes we have made progress since then. But all of us still have a ways to go.

It saddens me to read all of this stuff because these candidates have so many issues to juggle. I would never want to run for office because I can't imagine the scrutiny they must feel. For all the tribulations he's going thru, Obama's doing a standup job. And like I said I can't imagine any of us on this board doing any better.

Posted by: OffTopicMediaGroup | March 19, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

It's right for him to stand behind the person and denounce the hatred comments. I really wish these posters would actually pay attention to the news instead of restating wrongs like he sat there for 20 years blah blah. He of course heard controversial things, I heard them in white church IN, all about my sinning going to get me burning and the US kills babies and we're all toast and homosexuals brought about "plagues" on cities in the US and how school boards better not count on God because the support evolution in classrooms. On and on. Take a second to think about the Golden Rule and the ol' saying about walking a mile in someone else's moccasins. Then you will actually be in a real debate. From now on, all I hear are Hillary or Repubs rehashing. I am tired of it and that's one of the main reason I like Obama (even though I won't get to vote for him for awhile :)).

Posted by: Real Deal, MI | March 19, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"Being white inherently comes with benefits and advantages, whether they are earned or not, and everyone knows it" - js

"The white race doesn't KNOW what racism is and isn't QUALIFIED TO USE IT" - js

"RACISM, not from Obama or his pastor, but by the same individuals who can't stand the thought or just outright fear a black man being president." - js

I just thought I would highlight some of the points of your comment. Perhaps now you can see the ignorance?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright is speaking very angrily about racism against blacks. I don't believe he is a racist. Its easy for you guys to judge when you've never been told you couldn't drink from a fountain or stay in a hotel because of your skin color. Rev. Wright has been through this and because he's harboring some anger still he's being labeled a racist. What's even MORE absurd is we are blaming Obama for what he said as if Obama is supposed to control the minds of his supporters. It shows you how irrational and illogical people become when they're angry or can't face the facts. If McCain becomes President and the country goes completely to hell America will get what it deserves.

Posted by: Carol | March 19, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

The Racist(Obama) is coming home to roost!

Posted by: JCEdwardXP | March 19, 2008 5:24 PM | Report abuse

I think, believe, and expect that leadership offered by aggressive ideological traditions that have survived the competition is racist because these aggressive ideological traditions have the effect of motivating communities of faithful believers to run a race to out work, out fight and out number competition in the global culture. If communities of faithful believers self organized around aggressive ideological traditions that have survived the competition; lead members to believe; that Armageddon is a necessary final battle between a good one in Heaven and an evil one cast down to and ruling over Earth; and that after Armageddon a good one in Heaven will resurrect the dead; pass final judgment; transform faithful believers into beings with bodies of perfect form and function; and reward faithful believers with transport to a perfect place of eternal bliss some call Heaven; then racists running a race to out work, out fight and out number competition in the global culture; may become racists running a race to Armageddon.
Armageddon is presently being sold by some conservative ideological authorities as a necessary final conflict between a good one in Heaven and an evil one cast down to and ruling over Earth. Some communities of faithful believers have allowed conservative ideological authorities to dismiss the idea of a savior whose messages are of love, compassion and forgiveness and promote instead the idea of a savior whose return in a second coming will be as a warrior fighting in the end times to achieve final victory against an evil one cast down to and ruling over Earth in a great war to end all wars known as Armageddon. Many conservative ideological authorities have become racist, heterofascist, warmongers motivating communities of faithful believers to out work, out fight and out number competition in a race to Armageddon.  They self righteously believe they will be raptured to Heaven before the Armageddon they have helped orchestrate unfolds upon those "left behind". 
It is a lie to claim, as some conservative ideological authorities do, that myth is truth. An affirmation of an ability to know about the existence of a good one in Heaven at war with an evil one cast down to and ruling over Earth is a fraud that follows from the lie that myth is truth. Some conservative ideological authorities perpetrate this fraud in order to be able; to make threats against the life and or afterlife of anybody who does not submit to their authority; and to extort tithes and offerings from communities of faithful believers in exchange for a lifelong indoctrination in a standard of conduct that these same ideological authorities proclaim to be based on the discovery of the truth about the will of a good one in Heaven at war with an evil one cast down to and ruling over Earth. Based on the lie that myth is truth, some lead communities of faithful believers to behave like racist, heterofascist, warmongers.

       Based on the truth that myth is myth, I challenge religious leaders who repeat the lie that myth is truth in defense of their fraud and extortion operations. Based on the truth that myth is myth, I lead us to have the highest esteem of self and world the we can possibly imagine.  Based on the truth that myth is myth, I lead us to believe that there is an abundance of time to live made possible by an infinite series of lives to be lived by our divine eternal souls. Based on the truth that myth is myth, I lead us to believe abundance is freely given to us by Father Love, an infinite body of large universes of the correct kind to support living infernal fractal entities and Mother God an infinity, divinity, eternally, one. Based on the truth that myth is myth, I lead communities of faithful believers to behave like friendly, homotolerant, peace makers.

For more information visit my official website on the Internet @ http://www.4iam.info/Manifesto.htm

Posted by: High Ideologue | March 19, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

It's sad, but not suprising, not suprising in the least, that so many individuals on this forum are haters of Barack Obama. I wouldn't be suprised if these same individuals believed GW when he said that Iraq had WMD and the United States was justified in going to war. If people couldn't see through that con job, its no wonder people don't get Barack Obama. The man is just to advanced for the American Public. Which just proves that even though the United States may be the most powerful country in the world, we have the most gullable, ignorant people in the world. This man wants to improve this country. And yes, this country has a race problem. If you're not black or any other minority why would you care, it doesn't affect you. Being white inherently comes with benefits and advantages, whether they are earned or not, and everyone knows it. However, let one preacher make comments and white people yell racism. I know, I know, his comments are MUCH worse than having to endure things such as being put in a gas chamber, being lynched, crosses burning on your lawn, not have the right to vote, or having to go to the back of the bus, purely because of the color of your skin. The white race doesn't KNOW what racism is and isn't QUALIFIED TO USE IT. Why, because they have been in the position of power from the beginning of this country. What's the real problem with Obama being president??? RACISM, not from Obama or his pastor, but by the same individuals who can't stand the thought or just outright fear a black man being president. It may also be that alot of people are afraid that the tables will turn, and they will be treated as so many minorites in this country have been treated. All of the Presidents of this country have been white men. For a president, we've had cheaters, criminals, and an outright stupid and dishonest one (GW), who has run this country into the ground. Why not make a change, show the world that we truly embrace all people. A black man or a woman couldn't be any worse, in fact it would be an improvement. Look on the bright side having Barack as president may not be HALF bad..... he is HALF white. There's a fear of losing power, because one race has been in control of this country from the beginning. Fortunately, things are going to change. We may not have the foresight to elect a black man or woman as president now...but some day, it may not be in our lifetime, but it will happen. So in the meantime...go ahead, put another republican back in office. If you think things are bad now, you just wait. In the bible, Mark 10:31 says that the first shall be last, and the last first. Get used to it, prepare for it...it's coming, whether you like it or not.

Posted by: js | March 19, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

It's sad, but not suprising, not suprising in the least, that so many individuals on this forum are haters of Barack Obama. I wouldn't be suprised if these same individuals believed GW when he said that Iraq had WMD and the United States was justified in going to war. If people couldn't see through that con job, its no wonder people don't get Barack Obama. The man is just to advanced for the American Public. Which just proves that even though the United States may be the most powerful country in the world, we have the most gullable, ignorant people in the world. This man wants to improve this country. And yes, this country has a race problem. If you're not Black or any other minority why would you care, it doesn't affect you. Being white inherently comes with benefits and advantages, whether they are earned or not, and everyone knows it. However, let one preacher make comments and white people yell racism. Ahh, poor babies. I know, I know, his comments are much worse than having to endure things such as being put in a gas chamber, being lynched, crosses burning on your lawn, not have the right to vote, or having to go to the back of the bus, purely because of the color of your skin. The white race doesn't KNOW what racism is and isn't QUALIFIED TO USE IT. Why, because they have been in the position of power from the beginning of this country. What's the real problem with Obama being president??? RACISM, not from Obama or his pastor, but by the same individuals who can't stand the thought or just outright fear a black man being president. It may also be that alot of people are afraid that the tables will turn, and they will be treated as so many minorites in this country have been treated. All of the Presidents of this country have been white men. For a president, we've had cheaters, criminals, and an outright stupid and dishonest one (GW), who has run this country into the ground. Why not make a change, show the world that we truly embrace all people. A black man or a woman couldn't be any worse, in fact it would be an improvement. Look on the bright side having Barack as president may not be HALF bad..... he is HALF white. There's a fear of losing power, because one race has been in control of this country from the beginning. Fortunately, things are going to change. We may not have the foresight to elect a black man or woman as president now...but some day, it may not be in our lifetime, but it will happen. So in the meantime...go ahead, put another republican back in office. If you think things are bad now, you just wait. In the bible, Mark 10:31 says that the first shall be last, and the last first. Get used to it, prepare for it...it's coming, whether you like it or not.

Posted by: Julie | March 19, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

David: You asked how anyone could not be moved by Obama's speech. As I said earlier, I heard the whole speech, and frankly, it was very hard to sit through. I'll explain why -- I haven't listened to a speech by George Bush for ages, because I just can't bear to listen to him spout his propaganda. I don't believe what he says, so there's not much point in listening. I feel the same way about Obama, not only because he has been less than candid with the American public on a number of issues, but because I believe he is perpetrating a fraud on the voters. Because he doesn't have much experience to run on, he professes to be "post-racial" and a new kind of politician. That is his primary appeal. The problem is, is that he is neither. Whether it's his 20-year association with a racist and anti-American "mentor"; or his admitted "boneheaded" relationship with Rezko; or his lying about the NAFTA incident; or his lying about his continuous opposition to the Iraq war; or his lying about getting us out in 16 months; or his continual use of the race card (for which he was busted by Tim Russert during one of the debates); or now his attempt to stop the revotes in Michigan and Florida which will result in the disenfranchisement of millions of voters ala Bush/Rove; Obama has shown that he is not honest, he is not the uniter, and he is not a new kind of politician. No, he is merely another relatively inexperienced, typical politician who happens to be able to read a speech on a teleprompter as good as anyone since Ronald Reagan. So, for many of us, it's not that we didn't hear the whole speech; it is that we just don't believe him anymore.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Ianni242: Can you say with a hundred percent certainty that Rev. Wright is a racist? You don't know him well enough, and neither do I. As light as his skin is, I'm sure he mixed with white somewhere in his genes. And please EVERYBODY, stop ignoring the fact that Obama's mother is white.

And I'm sure that you know there are some white people living in wealth today because their ancestors had slaves. Slaves barely got paid if at all.

So please don't make such naive comments. You really do your education an injustice. I challenge you to look at Roots (again) and take a course of black history. Again, ALL of us are African -- because that's where civilization first began.

Posted by: OffTopicMediaGroup | March 19, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Offtopic: Yes, Ferraro resigned from the committee right after Hillary denounced her statement. I agree that neither Ferraro nor Wright are all bad, however, one cannot compare the statement made by Ferraro to the history of hate speech from Wright. As to Wrights light skin, Malcolm X had a white mother, but that didn't stop him from hating white people. As to your statement about who is running America; I'm not sure any of us really know. We have a Congress which is made up of various races, and we have a white president. I'm not sure, however, if they are really running the show (but that's another matter). The point is, why describe all bad people as white? Rev. Wright could have said this country is run by the rich people, just as easily, but instead he chose to make it a racial issue. As to how I would have handled the speech that Obama made; I would never had to make that speech, because I would never attend a church like that for more than 10 minutes. And, that is the point, really. Not how good the speech was, but what 20 years of attendance to such a church tells us about Obama's character and judgment. By the way, you sound like a thoughtful person; please don't think that any of my statements are meant to be an attack on you or your views.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the Manchurian Candidate. Deep down he believes what the Rev. says but is smart enough to keep his radical agenda hidden until he is elected. Rev. Wright's comments mirror Louis Farrakan's comments. His effervescent "can't we all just get along" rhetoric has grown swarmy and hollow. His half-hearted denial of knowing what Rev. Wright believed in after 20 years in the church and previously celebrating the man as his spirtual mentor is very damaging to Obama's credibility. The pundits do not want to see him fall, and are trying their best to buoy his ship with positive comments about how his speech stemmed the tide. But the pundits and young liberal enthusiants who support him are out of synch with the majority of Americans, who in their hearts will not vote for the man in November who is so closely associated with black militantism.

Posted by: MatthewDC | March 19, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse


In his speech Obama talks about moving past the "racial divide" that separate the races of this great nation.

Why then does he dwell so much on slavery, and in his speech claim that it is something we can never forget and that will always remain?

This generation of white people should not have to pay for the sins of our ancestors. If your great grandfather raped a woman should the burden of his sin be lain on you?

Take a step back for a second to actually consider the contradictions and ignorance shown Obama's speeches.

The moment when "black America" accepts Hillary Clinton attending an all white mass with a racist priest, I will accept Barack Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

It is absolutely amazing how some people can 'hear' what they 'want' to hear! When Obama said that he had not heard those comments, he was specifically talking about the SPECIFIC comments in the soundbites and clips that have been playing ad nauseum by the media!!!! Only simple dolts are unable to understand that. Only someone who is 'looking' for a lie will hear a lie! I mean give me a break!! AND AGAIN, I ask, tell me specifically the words from those clips and soundbites that this preacher used to disparage white people? Tell me! Spell them out! Because I've listened, and unless I've missed something.....I don't hear any. Again, what I hear is an aggressive condemnation of the way America and it's government behave.

Posted by: Coleduck | March 19, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

No thoughtful individual who heard this speech can fail to have been deeply moved. It was, in a word, profound.

On the other hand, nothing in it will have touched a chord with the mean spirited among us, both left and right, because they do not see it as being in their best interest to be touched. They thrive on dissension and discord. Fortunately, in the end, they don't matter for much.

The beauty of democracy is that, in the end, the middle makes the difference. The political fringes, both left and right, are never more than agitators. It is the political center that, moving with time and circumstances, dictates the direction we as a society take and correct for it when it was the wrong one.

I have no doubt that this speech is a product of and a beacon to the center. It is the best evidence I have seen that Barack Obama can unite us and move us in a positive direction. I applaud him and wish him godspeed.

Posted by: david dial | March 19, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Fred: Hillary didn't denounce Ferarro entirely: she was allowing her to stay on the campaign.

Whatever, ok.

Ferarro is all bad as I'm sure Rev. Wright isn't all bad. And as Obama said we need to understand why he said what he said. We're not in the Reverend's shoes. He's from another generation than many of us, and I'm sure that influenced his perspective. We may not agree with him, but he had his reasons. And I don't imagine he's a racist. Plus, look at his light skin. He's got some white in him, too--thanks to race mixing.

Anyway, to my knowledge, Hillary told Geraldine she could stay on the campaign. No one's saying anything to Hillary about THAT. And correct me if I'm wrong, but America is being run by "rich black folks." And anyway, why are all of you negating Obama's white roots? I'm sure he feels the pull of both sides of his races. That can't be an easy task. Here some of you are ripping into like you could have handled this scenario better. Certainly, neither Hillary nor McCain could have made that speech and come out of it with as much genuiness. Obama is a unique situation. And we should put ourselves in his shoes. I'm sure I speak with a hundred percent certainty when I say we've all been in situations where we wish we could have acted or reacted differently in hindsight. Anyone who says they've always had all the right answers is a liar and a hypocrit. If you could have handled the Obama speech better, I would like to know how YOU would have done it.

Posted by: OffTopicMediaGroup | March 19, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Fred: Hillary didn't denounce Ferarro entirely: she was allowing her to stay on the campaign.

Whatever, ok.

Ferarro is all bad as I'm sure Rev. Wright isn't all bad. And as Obama said we need to understand why he said what he said. We're not in the Reverend's shoes. He's from another generation than many of us, and I'm sure that influenced his perspective. We may not agree with him, but he had his reasons. And I don't imagine he's a racist. Plus, look at his light skin. He's got some white in him, too--thanks to race mixing.

Anyway, to my knowledge, Hillary told Geraldine she could stay on the campaign. No one's saying anything to Hillary about THAT. And correct me if I'm wrong, but America is being run by "rich black folks." And anyway, why are all of you negating Obama's white roots? I'm sure he feels the pull of both sides of his races. That can't be an easy task. Here some of you are ripping into like you could have handled this scenario better. Certainly, neither Hillary nor McCain could have made that speech and come out of it with as much genuiness. Obama is a unique situation. And we should put ourselves in his shoes. I'm sure I speak with a hundred percent certainty when I say we've all been in situations where we wish we could have acted or reacted differently in hindsight. Anyone who says they've always had all the right answers is a liar and a hypocrit. If you could have handled the Obama speech better, I would like to know how YOU would have done it.

Posted by: OffTopicMedia Group | March 19, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

In his speech Obama talks about moving past the "racial divide" that separate the races of this great nation.

Why then does he dwell so much on slavery, and in his speech claim that it is something we can never forget and that will always remain?

This generation of white people should not have to pay for the sins of our ancestors. If your great grandfather raped a woman should the burden of his sin be lain on you?

Take a step back for a second to actually consider the contradictions and ignorance shown Obama's speeches.

The moment when "black America" accepts Hillary Clinton attending an all white mass with a racist priest, I will accept Barack Obama.

Posted by: Ianni242 | March 19, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Latest Gallop Poll: Latest Gallop Poll: The race has been back and forth for a while, so it is difficult to know what, if anything, to read into it, but Hillary Clinton has a seven point lead (outside the margin of error) over Barack Obama. But she trails John McCain by three points (within the margin of error). McCain, is four points up on Obama.

Clinton and Obama have been neck and neck _ or Obama has been ahead _ in recent voter polls.

The results are seen as the result of the hullabaloo around Pastor Jeremiah Wright's inflammatory comments.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Fred: The church is in black neighborhood. There are black people in a black neighborhood. I don't believe the church turns away white people who want to attend service. Just like I don't believe there are white churches that turn away black parishioners. You would be surprised at how many black people absolutely would love it if more white folks attended their church services! You and Hillary and John McCain should drop by Trinity one Sunday! ; )

Honestly I hear Hillary speak little about faith and even less about attendance. But it is interesting how she has been quiet about this. Makes me wonder about what she might be hiding. However, Hillary did apologize for insults made by Geraldine and even her husband Bill. In front of a huge mass of Black media publications. By the way those black publications treated Hillary far, far more respectable then any of the main channel media outlets have treated Barack. I think she stepped up to the plate in doing this, but it took her 3 months to apologize for Bill and 2 months to apologize for Geraldine. But at least she made the effort! I do not believe the Clintons are racist; I believe they are opportunists that use any means and any racial group to achieve their goals. They did it with blacks when Bill Clinton was running he was labeled as the first 'black president' and Hillary is doing the same exact thing with the Latino votes.

Fred, seriously, are you really that mad about a Pastor preaching his beliefs and experiences in church and giving someone an award? Really why is this so significant? Because he is Barack's Pastor? That can't be the only reason. There are too many political figures who meet with and give awards to far worse people then Barack's ex-pastor.

Barack's entire speech was about trying to eliminate racism so we can unite all races to get better jobs, healthcare, loans, housing etc. These issues are not only a concern for black people. Barack held his Pastor's words accountable AND REPREHENSIBLE. He did not ask you or anyone to excuse the Pastor's words. You know maybe if the Pastor was to speak to people like you who were obviously very hurt by his words he (the Pastor) might change his opinions on racism. Maybe you should write a letter and fax it over to the church and explain to the Pastor why it really hurt you deeply to hear and visually see him shouting about racism and its affects on blacks. Maybe the Pastor needs to hear from your perspective (assuming you are white) how it feels when the racist's acts of some white people should not be put upon the shoulders of all white people. As a matter of fact I suggest that is what all of the white people on this blog do. Be constructive with your anger and write the Pastor directly about your concerns of his Preaching's. Maybe one of your letters will reach the Pastor and make him realize that things have changed, not perfectly, but progress has been made. Remind him that many white people fought and died to help end racism along side blacks, tell him what you really think of affirmative action.

Be open to a being a part of a resolution on how we can become better American's and all receive a little bit of the 'American Pie' or you will just continue to be a part of the problem.

Posted by: Yvette Oneil | March 19, 2008 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Joe: Yes, Jesus did hang out with poor, destitute sinners, prostitutes, tax collectors and others, however, his message to them was to repent and change their ways. Since you brought it up, can you really imagine Jesus attending Wrights church for 20 years, and listening to all that hate and racism? Do you really believe that Jesus would condone the telling of his story as if his killers were "white," as if to focus on their race? If you believe this about Jesus, then our impressions are vastly different.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I find it odd that some who claim to be Christians are so quick to condemn Obama for those he hangs out with. Or do you not remember that Jesus was oftentimes criticized for His associates? He hung out with poor, destitute sinners. Prostitutes, tax collectors and others, while those who claimed to be perfect He rebuked. And yet, every time, He also told those who sinned to "go and sin no more," though He did not disown them. Not even Peter, who you may remember, denied Him three times. Nor Mark, who is thought to have been the one who fled away naked from the pursuers. And after all that, He said "Father, forgive them. They know not what they do."

I find it ironic that those who believe they are hated are so quick to hate, even as they condemn it. I went through that speech in full, and there is no hate in it. I do not find one trace of hate, only a legacy of pain that people do not want to deal with.

The hate you sense may be your own. We ought each to look and take the logs out of our own eyes before criticizing. I know that I have to, too, when reading this. Anger like that is not productive, and we are called to rise above it, not sink into it.

It doesn't matter who started the fire, it's time to put it out.

Posted by: Joe | March 19, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Well: Unfortunately, your post will be lost on most Obama supporters. Unexplicably, they are incapable of processing any criticism of Obama, even when it is right before their eyes. It is a very strange phenomenon.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama on 3/14/2008:
And, even though he has been a member of Trinity United for the past 20 years, Obama said he had never witnessed Wright making such statements."Had I heard those statements in the church, I would have told Reverend Wright that I profoundly disagree with them," Obama said, adding, "What I have been hearing and had been hearing in church was talk about Jesus and talk about faith and values and serving the poor."
---http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/14/obama.minister/

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Obama on 3/19/08:
Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in the church? Yes. Did I strongly disagree with many of his political views? Absolutely.
---http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/18/AR2008031801081.html?sid=ST2008031801183

For Obama supporters: Fool you once, shame on Obama; Fool you twice, shame on you.

Posted by: Well | March 19, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama, Don Imus must be fired for "Hateful Remarks"

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TQkP5cCsWn4

Posted by: Obama = Hypocrite | March 19, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Dear T Webb,
I heard Rev Wright say that America is run by "rich white folks". He went on to say that the American government "sold drugs to blacks" and is responsible for the HIV virus in Africa. That sure sounds to me like he is saying white people are evil.

Posted by: shawn | March 19, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

i just hope that whether or not you choose to support obama in your primary or in the fall (if he survives this controversy), that the message of his speech yesterday and his candidacy in general is not lost on you (or on our country). we are a great country, but one that nevertheless possesses significant flaws. if we choose to turn a blind eye to these, they may one day be our undoing. it's a shame that the second anyone tries to cast a light on america's problems someone automatically chooses to label them unamerican, and a chorus follows.

obama has repeatedly stated that his presidency alone cannot bring about change (in fact it should not and does not take his presidency to bring about change, so if you don't like his policies, don't vote for him just because of the message he offers), and calls upon each of us to take responsibility not just for ourselves but for one another and for the future of our country. no matter who is president come next january, if we continue to demand that our voice be heard, continue to come together as a country, rather than recede into cynicism... than change can come. if we work for change, change will come... with or without obama as president.

i, like many, have been lucky to be the person that i am in this country, but others have not been so fortunate. for some, especially those in the black community, race has been a big part of this. it is not overt racism so much that is the issue, but as obama so rightly pointed out, the legacy of slavery and racisim that is the issue. while we today may not be to blame for the actions of our forebearers, those actions are nevertheless the main culprit behind the cycle of poverty and violence that afflicts much of the black community. i do not agree with affirmative action, and i do think that many in the black community (in fact most everyone on this planet for one reason or another) need to take a long look in the mirror before casting blame outwardly... but until we come together as a country and improve our public school system we will offer the next generation in the black community no hope to break the cycle of poverty and violence. no child (black, white, brown, red, whatever color) should be held accountable for the failings of their parents, their community, and especially their country. everyone deserves a chance to make it. if they choose to squander that chance, so be it... but we must at least give them the chance.

Posted by: zack | March 19, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Offtopic: Hillary Clinton did denounce Ferraro, and Ferraro left Hillary's campaign. I love how incensed you are about one statement made by Ferraro, yet we are all supposed to give Obama a pass over him supporting his racist and anti-American "mentor and spiritual adviser" for 20 years.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not dividing the country, the people are dividing the country. Actually the lines were alway there, it is just in the spotlight now.

This is going nowhere, just admit that your uncomfortable because he is black and that is all to it! Fear makes people venemous.

Posted by: PJB | March 19, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight - the apologists for Mr. Obama justify Reverend Wrights views because they accurately describe how most blacks feel about whites and America. And you want me to vote for Mr Obama because he is honest enough to get this reality out in the open? Oh boy - I can't wait to vote for a guy who is anxious to give us "white folk" a much needed payback.

Posted by: shawn | March 19, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

To those who suggest that hatred and racism is fine so long as the hater and racist is black, I happen to disagree. Maybe all who think that way should vote for Obama, and all who do not believe that hatred and racism are justifiable should vote otherwise. At any rate, Obama claims to be a Christian. Nowhere in Christian theology is hatred and racism justified. It was Jesus, after all, who said "love even your enemy." I think the bottom line here is that Obama supporters will justify just about anything he does, because they are infatuated with the idea of him. Thankfully, there are those of us who are more objective about this issue, and to us, racism and hatred are not qualities to be brushed off just because we happen to like the racist himself.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama is dividing the country more than brining it together. The peple in my town have never been split along racial lines...but the more I hear Obama, particularly after his speech, the more I dislike "black America."

I prefer 1 America to 90% of the black vote going to one man (if 90% of the white vote went to Hillary, it would be racist, no doubt), a man that defends someone like Rev. Wright before and after giving him the boot, or having children that cringe at what their grandmother says and secretly hates his mother's race because his father is different.

This is Obama. This is not the America I want, but he is already dividing people.

When Obama admits that he did, in fact, hear controversial things in his church after denying it, just words?

Posted by: Matt | March 19, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

What I want to know is why is no one saying anything to Hillary Clinton? She didn't denounce Geraldine FERARRO?

Why is no one addressing Hillary's intention to keep Ferarro on even after she made a disparaging remark about Obama?

And please don't forget: ALL of us are African -- because that's where civilization first began.

Posted by: OffTopicMediaGroup | March 19, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Daudi: Let's not go there, because although there were a great deal of Africans that did capture and sell some of their people, they certainly cannot account for the hundreds of millions of people and the length of time it lasted. It was supply and demand! The whites demand black slaves and they helped themselves to Africans because they worked hard and were able to withstand the climates that they worked. There were many races of people enslaved, but only the blacks could endure the diseases and climates that killed everyone else off. Everyone knew it was wrong, but greed, the real enemy won that moral battle.

From the beginning of time, all people were enslaved and brutalized at one time or another. That of the Africans, well it was pretty recent and it still affects us.

Posted by: PJB | March 19, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

great speech. to those who still find fault with him. good. you now have found your easy out to vote for another candidate, even though you were never going to vote for him anyway. to those with friends, family, and religious advisors of any kind over 50 years old, ask yourself this question. have you directly disavowed any racially derogatory comments from people you know the way barack obama has. yes, you are not running for public office, but if you were could people you associate with pass this level of scrutiny?

Posted by: thad | March 19, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

I have attended many religious institutions and schools and studied various religious philosophies - Catholic, Unitarian, Protestant, Evangelical, Seperatist, Southern, Baptist, Methodist, B'hai, Taoist, etc. Some were social, some political, some pure entertainment, some philosophical, some educational, some hateful. I have walked out in the middle of sermons/services I found hateful, demeaning, or harmful. From the time I was eight years old, I have raised my voice in protest against relatives or others, whatever their standing, who propose and promote negative and restrictive doctrines. I would certainly never permit my children to attend such institutions or be under the influence and authority of such institutions during their formative years. If we do not stand against discrimination then we stand for it. Obama does not meet the challenge.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Shawn he never said all white men are evil.

It seems like one of the biggest problems here is a difference in cultures, which is exactly what Obama was trying to convey in his speech. Probably since slavery the term for blacks when refering to the people in power, be it the slave owner or the government was "the whiteman". Subsitute the government in his statements and it makes more sense.

I will not begin to defend his anti-american statements but I heard nothing racist in what he said.

Posted by: T. Webb | March 19, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I really must have a serious flaw with my computer. When I click on the link above to go to the speech, I see Obama giving a speech alright, but it is a speech completely unrelated to the issues the Rev Wright raises in the clips I keep seeing on the news.. I did not see one world on the issue of the US foreign policy being the main exacerbating factor in the rage and violence in the middle east. I did not see one word on the fact that it is the one-sided foreign policy with regard to the Palestinians that is causing blowback in an area of strategic importance. I did not see one word addressing the foreign policy implications going forward of this most fundamental root cause of a potential world tragedy.

Funny. Perhaps someone hacked into the site and put up another speech instead of his real one to miss-direct everyone from a truly important debate we might be having, and onto a tangent? Na, I think its probably just my computer. I will seriously have to get it looked at.

Posted by: Richard T. | March 19, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Dear Anonymous: You say I have a "twisted" vision of black liberation theology, when all I have done is to quote from one of the main architects of that so-called theology, James Cone (who Wright acknowledges as his inspiration). I suggest if you have a problem with these quotes, you take it up with Mr. Wright and Mr. Cone.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Hey FRED.... If white people in this country had a history of being oppressed, dehumanized, vilified and legally treated as second class citizens YES, I could very well understand the existence of a 'white centered church'....JUST like I understand the missions of many Jewish synagogues. Look, if you are going to make a case of comparison.......at least try to compare apples to apples and oranges to..... well I think you understand where I coming from.

Posted by: Coleduck | March 19, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you Coleduck.

No matter if Bill was called the 1st black president. That does not mean that Bill or Hillary knows what it's like to be black or called the n-word.

The black community has called the establishment/government the white man.

Posted by: T. Web | March 19, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Fred: In response to your Hillary question, that double standard is because of the racial issues in this country. White supremacy is hating people for the color of the skin or sexuality or a bunch of other things. Blacks supremacy is reaction to white supremacy. If Black were not enslaved and then persecuted, if the other issues did not exist, if black just hated whites because of what, i do not know, then it would be equally bad, but because of all the other issues that cause guilt and pain, we are where we are and it is what it is.

Posted by: PJB | March 19, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I am waiting for the African and African-American people to acknowledge who captured and enslaved and sold their own brother and sisters in Africa.

Posted by: Daudi | March 19, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I cringe every time I read comments like, "Do you agree with everything your pastor says?" "Do you disown him because of a few bad comments?" This fails to acknowledge the degree of wrong in the statement. If my pastor said, "Vote for a democrat." I would not disown him though I don't agree that politics have a place in the pulpit. But if my pastor said, "All black people are evil." I would be out of that church in a heartbeat never to return.

Posted by: shawn | March 19, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Coleduck: Please see my post below about Wright's racism.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

What an insult from the cable news folks trying to put a happy face on the hole dug by Obama.

Obama - not all churches preach hate!
Obama - no one believes that you never heard these racist comments.

Obama - to refer to Wrights diatribes as "controversial remarks" is an INSULT! What an antiseptic manner in which to characterize such vulgarity!

MSNBC may fawn over your comments, as for the rest of us: keep watching the polls.

Posted by: Fred C Dobbs | March 19, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Fred, I'm glad to hear you were raised in a progressive household. However, my generation can't say that. The reasons you don't understand when some blacks refer to the establishment/government as whiteman in general because that who has been in power since the country's inception.

There are many who do believe, white and black that our policies brought the hate of the Muslims upon us as a country. He may have said some comments that were unamerican but I don't see them as racist.

You have a totally twisted view on Black theology that I won't even begin to address. Having grown up in the black church the only suggestion I can say is take a college religion class, or do some bonified research.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

If people stuck in the race problem, the politician who represent the past political model in Washington will smile with satisfacation, all those petty bickering is what they want to see, and real change will never happen and this country will never promote.

Posted by: Bill Walker | March 19, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

That speech took guts.
There are no two ways about it.
In modern politics, the guy was supposed to denounce Rev. Wright and say some crap about how "race doesn't matter."
But instead he took the issue on head first. It is a remarkable moment.
There was no hiding from the truths of our society, the angry talk that both whites and black know doesn't appear in "polite company." He just stated it was our stalemated society, which is the most honest thing said by a politican about race in years!
He put it out there and asked us to really question where we actually are as a country regarding race. Not in a 24-hour news, sound bit way ... but in a real way.
To paraphrase Jon Stewart last night, he talked to us about race "like we were adults."
The question is will Americans partake in such a discourse or will they harp on the angry words of Obama's pastor and all the same old media frenzy crap. Saddly, such a move would require turning off FOX News or MSNBC and really listening to what all the candidates say for a change.

Posted by: Scott | March 19, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm still getting no answer from Obama supporters on this question. if Hillary Clinton belonged to "white centered " church for 20 years and considered their pastor to be her "mentor and spiritual advisor"; if that church taught "white theology" which focused on black versus white issues and referred to black people in a derogatory manner; if that pastor made racist and denigrating remarks about black people; and if that pastor gave David Duke a lifetime achievement award last November; and if Hillary still belonged to that church -- if all these things were true about Hillary, WOULD YOU GIVE HER A FREE PASS? IF SHE GAVE A NICE SPEECH DENOUNCING THE MORE EGREGIOUS STATEMENTS OF HER RACIST PASTOR, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THE ISSUE SETTLED AND PUSH TO "MOVE ON?"

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Can somebody specifically point to the statements made by this preacher that disparaged white people??????? Now, unless you equate the Government with white people, unless you equate America with white people...... - maybe I missed something, but I have heard 'nothing' that disparaged white people or any other race of people in the soundbites and clips that have been played ad nauseum over the media. I've been reading so many comments suggesting that this preacher is a racist, but all I've heard was his condemnation of the American Governments behavior domestically and abroad & how God (Just like he did with Sodem & Gomorah) damns America for her arrogance and for her acting as if she 'is' God and his statements about Hillary not knowing what it's like to be a black person in America. Again I ask.......what is racist about all that??

Posted by: Coleduck | March 19, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Bill o'bama: I will say this...you do make me laugh!

This might be hard for you to do, but just imagine that generation, after generation, after generation of white people suffered at the hands of black people. That suffering resulted in whites being legally declared less than human, dehumanized, indentured, demoralized, torn apart from their families, segregated, beaten, lynched, uneducated, homeless, and jobless and the list does really go on. To this very day there are black families that are still affected. Not from the physical effects but from the psychological. That psychological belief that was beaten into many of our ancestors that black people will never be good enough, smart enough, qualified enough to the white man's point of view. That might be hard to understand because you say..400 hundred years have passed! But brown v. board of Ed was just 54 year. Desegregation of the school system so that black children could finally get a decent education and books was less then 55 years ago. Did brown v. board of Ed work? Just look at the neighborhoods with public schools that turn out kids with great grades and that should answer your question. Jobs were geared towards hiring only white people. You had to have an HS diploma. So Black people got their HS diplomas. Then you had to pass a test..(sounds familiar
No one wants sympathy or any sort of hand out. Just an honest acknowledgement that it happened and that significant damage to one particular race was the result. An apology would be nice also. NOT from YOU as the individual but from the government for allowing and embracing the sale and purchase of fellow human being. But this will never happen because once the government admits that they PROFITED from the marketing and sales of slavery, indenture etc.. that then makes them financially accountable to millions and there is no way in heck they will allow that to happen. The country would go BANKRUPT.

The Jewish people were compensated financially for their suffering under Hitler's hand by American taxpayers due to America's lack of action I believe in their dire need of assistance. Funny you should mention that because I believe there were white and black people who were upset about this compensation to the Jewish. Some whites even were on the news making statements about it. But, black people have never and will never be compensated for any suffering that was endured under the hand of America's approved slave trade. That is just the truth. Hell... go down South! Some of them are still waiting for 40 acres and mule for fighting in the war!

As Barack pointed out that since the civil rights movements there have been an ongoing effort to rectify this wrong that was not only done to the black race, but women, Native Americans, white people who lost jobs because of affirmative action, farmers who lost their farms etc.

I agree with what Barack said yesterday. Black and White people alike need to stand united against inhumane injustices against any race. We should be feel free to speak on it also without feeling like we will be called racists.

I just think that there are some people responding on these blogs with a lot of pent-up hatred towards black people in general. I think there are people who just want to push buttons and try to insult and rile other races up because for some disgusting reason it makes them feel better. Inexplicable really, but there it is.

I'm really glad that this debate turned towards race. It really has opened my eyes about a lot of things about what some people really think and feel about other races in public is TOTALLY opposite of what they write and think in private.

Posted by: Yvette Oneil | March 19, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Obama. I have now made my choice to vote for you. You have touched on things that even today nobody wants to admit or talk about. The race issue still plagues America, just more silent than 50+ years ago. It takes courage do say what you said knowing it could make some feel uncomfortable... so obvious in some of the comments made here on this website. That is what I needed to see in a President, courage.. instead of hiding behind coverups which I believe both Clintons have manage to do. Obamas speech should go down into the history books and read in every history class across America.

Posted by: Dana | March 19, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

".......I love our melting pot called America. It's my family. All of you. And even though I can't always agree with everything that some of you say, we still are in this thing together."

Thank you 'no surprise' (12:35pm) that was beautiful!

and this to those who talk about just sitting and listening for 20 years...... i ask: what have you actually DONE during the last 7+ but sit back and listen to the drivel coming out of the white house 'pulpit' about the war, katrina, the recession and on and on. have you made YOUR move or just sat there?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Tweb: I never heard my mother or father use the "N" word; it was not allowed in my house. As to your assertion that Wright is not a racist, that is provably wrong. For example, why call 9/11 a "wake up call for white people." I'm white, and I don't think that I had anything to do with 9/11. Why say that Jesus was black and his killers were white? I don't really care whether Jesus was white, Jewish, black, or green, but why make it a point to say his killers were white? Why does he lay the blame for all of the worlds ills on "white" people. The answer is because he is a racist. The underlying issue here is Wright's following of James Cone's Afrocentric Black Liberation theology. Either God must do what we want him to do, or we must reject him, Cone maintains as follows:

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Wright has been explicit in accepting Cone; its hard to see that Obama, being as bright as he is, does not at least know about this stance, which is clearly at the core of the Trinity Church. In being a member of this church Obama aided his South Side Chicago political career but seriously jeopardized a presidential run.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

By Loki

Barack Obama is a liar,,,

To all.

Obama speech ,,,, Not sure if you caught not only did Obama refuses to denounce him,, but even more, he says in his own words, Barack Obama was in the Trinity United Church of Christ (TUCC) when Jeremiah Wright was spewing Anti-American Racism. Those were his own words. Barack was there.

After going on Keith Oberman Show, Obama said he would denounce that if he heard that language, he would leave and not tolerate it , and denounce it. He went on MSNBC, he went on FOX, CNN, ABC and all the news station saying he was never there, in his church when he said these things. But today, during his speech entitled A More Perfect Union., he states flat out, he was there.

Last week Barack Obama lied, went on all the news stations, and lied, but you're not reporting that.

You can be rest assured, that the CNN, Fox, ABC and MSNBC,, are getting more on this. They will be reporting on this, and we will see, if you chose to report, Obama lying on TV.

If this was Hillary Clinton lying and caught lying on all the news stations,, you can be sure, you would talk about it every hour, people will be on your station debating this, people analysing , if it was Hillary Clinton, but it was not her it was Barack Obama.

It's bad enough he lied about being in church with Jeremiah Wright, when he made the anti American statements and still refused to denounce him. All the news agencies want to do, is speak on how good his speech was, and not that he lied.

Last week on all the news agencies, he was never there, but today in his own speech, he said: "I was there."

They should play all Obama's videos from last week, stating he was not there or heard any of the anti-American statements, Jeremiah Wright said in his church, then play back his speech today saying he was there and he did hear him in church and refused to denounce Jeremiah Wright.

Posted by: marely | March 19, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

nice bill, real nice...drowning out the message board with your own responses? definitely the way to gain the respect of people reading, real mature...why didn't I think of that? genius!!! YOU should run for president!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

So you think that blacks feel sorry themselves for the little 200 hundred years of slavery, hundreds of millions murdered, and the present and future generations pains and problems.

You speak of the plight of the Jews and the horrors of "2000" not "200" years of slavery.

To that I say, have read the bible? Do you know the Torah?

You want to know why blacks feel it more? Because people don't have to ask us if we are black, or look at our names. Yes, we can't convert to white and have all the benefits that comes with it. As a matter of fact, I know Jewish people that spoke candidly about how Jews see black people.

Black have it bad everywhere in this world. To date, ever other culture considers having darker skin to be a curse. And for all the tanning that white people do, they would never want to be black.

I am a black professional but because I was standing in a reception area, though dressed completely corporate, holding a regular letter sized envelope in a reputable firm, a white woman approach me, proceeded to been down and read the address on my envelope while inquiring if I was from the messenger center! I politely mentioned to her that I was not and perhaps my look of disbelief or maybe it was my white colleagues or maybe it was the look on the hispanic receptionists face that showed her what she had done, I am not sure, but what I do know is that I was hurt, more so than angry, but angry too.

Am I not entitled? Does that make me an angry black person or a winey, complaining black person? Does that make her a racist or does that made her a product of what she was taught and I product of what of what has happened to my people, what continues to happen?

Going back to the good book, Revelations speaks of all of this evil, just a way for the devil to keep busy until his time is over. I am exhausted from feeling the hurt and I feel better only when I allow the true gospel to enter my heart.

I pray that god blesses and keeps you all safe and that there will be a time when all is done that we will no longer need these feelings of division and hate, that we in fact do not even remember them.

Posted by: PJB | March 19, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Man right on, Rev Wright for Secretary of State

Posted by: JFK | March 19, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Man right on, Rev Wright for Secretary of State

Posted by: JFK | March 19, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Man right on, Rev Wright for Secretary of State

Posted by: JFK | March 19, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

BARAK Supporters - the man has

NO Judgement
NO Leadership

Supported through money and time, a RACIST pastor and church for 20 YEARS !!!

shameful man, this guy Barak

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

BARAK Supporters - the man has

NO Judgement
NO Leadership

Supported through money and time, a RACIST pastor and church for 20 YEARS !!!

shameful man, this guy Barak

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

BARAK Supporters - the man has

NO Judgement
NO Leadership

Supported through money and time, a RACIST pastor and church for 20 YEARS !!!

shameful man, this guy Barak

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

I am as white as they come, and still undecided as to this whole election, but Mr. G, thank you for the eloquent, measured and NUANCED responses you've provided here...Bill O'bama, you're responses come off as kneejerk and ill thought out - I have close gay friends as well as close friends who admit to disliking homosexuality...I have close Jewish friends as well as friends who use the word Jew pejoratively...I strive to meet people from all walks of life, to appreciate their perspectives and expose them to mine - this is the only way I can ever hope to influence them with my own beliefs, namely that I don't have a problem with race, sex or religion...I also accept that, regardless of what they believe, every one of my friends has redeeming characteristics, and so I try to look past their less attractive points and accept them for who they are...Barak, in no uncertain terms (in fact, quite eloquently), states exactly this - to an impulsive thinker such as Bill O'bama, it make Barack seem a hypocrite and racist...however, to nuanced thinkers, it is a thoughtful and compelling response...comments like Bill's are myopic, narrominded, and unneccessarily inflammatory in a debate like this...and Bill, please refrain from sarcastically using the word "brotha" with Mr. G., it is childish and betrays your inner bigot...

Posted by: Dave D. | March 19, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

obama husseins speech was a load of c#@#
he is a liar and is not for the American people but for third world countries in which he will tax Americans 0.7% to send to Africa. Interesting!!!

Posted by: winnie | March 19, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

well said Tony!

Posted by: Chris | March 19, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

SNAKEOIL SALESMAN Barak

NO Judgement
NO Leadership

Supported through money and time, a RACIST pastor and church for 20 YEARS !!!

shameful man, this guy Barak

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

SNAKEOIL SALESMAN Barak

NO Judgement
NO Leadership

Supported through money and time, a RACIST pastor and church for 20 YEARS !!!

shameful man, this guy Barak

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

And for those who are saying: "Show me how he plans to take action and implement change! He's just a pompous windbag full of hot air!" - read this article, it's amazing:

http://tinyurl.com/2ed864

One of my main reasons for supporting Obama is that he is NOT a typical, old-guard politician. He spent many years as an EDUCATOR first. That is very important to me.

Also, the way he has inspired the youth to hope is LEGENDARY. If our country lets the youth down now, they will become cynical and apathetic toward future government and elections, mark my words.

Posted by: dusty | March 19, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama's speech is one of the coldest political exploitation I have ever heard: attacking his own dead grandmother by comparing her private fear of black men to his pastor (Wright)'s public anti-american, racism vitriol. This guy would say anything to get ahead.

Posted by: COLD | March 19, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I am like Obama in that I have both white and black roots from my perspective this was the most important aspect of the speech:

"The church contains in full the kindness and cruelty, the fierce intelligence and the shocking ignorance, the struggles and successes, the love and yes, the bitterness and bias that make up the black experience in America."

America is imperfect and the black community within America is certainly imperfect. Especially, older individuals of all colors often have a hard time shaking off the prejudices of the past. People who were taught to fear the other, people who learned through experience that freedom was something to fight for don't learn a new way very quickly.

But there are people like Obama in every community, people who reject the idea of the "other" and show that another way.

To reject Obama on the grounds is only to say that he can't be president because he knows other Americans. These are the opinions that exist in the real world. The idea that many have here that he should have insulated from "bad" opinions is only an exercise in public relations and to your detriment. You don't get to create your own reality, and consecutive presidents have been doing that for far too long.

Posted by: Tony | March 19, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm still getting no answer from Obama supporters on this question. if Hillary Clinton belonged to "white centered " church for 20 years and considered their pastor to be her "mentor and spiritual advisor"; if that church taught "white theology" which focused on black versus white issues and referred to black people in a derogatory manner; if that pastor made racist and denigrating remarks about black people; and if that pastor gave David Duke a lifetime achievement award last November; and if Hillary still belonged to that church -- if all these things were true about Hillary, WOULD YOU GIVE HER A FREE PASS? IF SHE GAVE A NICE SPEECH DENOUNCING THE MORE EGREGIOUS STATEMENTS OF HER RACIST PASTOR, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THE ISSUE SETTLED AND PUSH TO "MOVE ON?"

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

You are correct you don't choose your mother or father. However, what did you say to your mother or father the first time you heard them use the N-word? If you listend to what the Pastor said he did not otter a racist comment. What he said was about the same thing Gearaldine said, only in harsher tones. I didn't think what she said was racist either just unappropriate.

Posted by: T. Webb | March 19, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

You are correct you don't choose your mother or father. However, what did you say to your mother or father the first time you heard them use the N-word? If you listend to what the Pastor said he did not otter a racist comment. What he said was about the same thing Gearaldine said, only in harsher tones. I didn't think what she said was racist either just unappropriate.

Posted by: T. Webb | March 19, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

What I fail to understand, as a white person myself, is how people can feel like the frustration that blacks feel for the empirical FACT that they are still being treated unfairly somehow threatens whites. They just want an even keel! It's nothing anyone else wouldn't ask for, in the same position! It's not racism, and I would probably laugh out loud whenever someone who is white claims to be the victim of black "racism," or "racial remarks," if I the whole issue didn't just make me sad.

Posted by: Cooper | March 19, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse


You know a person by the company he/she keeps. Obama has kept this anti-American, anti semitic racist for 20 years as his pastor and "inspirational mentor" (Obama's own word)

Posted by: MikeO | March 19, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Wake up people! I have read some very trivial and baseline stuff on here. Point blank a lot of you are scared to hear the real deal, we all talk about race and yes in the black community it really does get talked about in the salons and barber shops. I've heard other cultures talk about each other after work at bars using what should be thought of as racial comments and stereotyping. Secondly, over the past 20 years I've heard my pastor say some outlandish bofoonery and comments that should never be said in a church. Does that mean I believe every word he says and I hold his values? NO! This man was his spiritual adviser not life and work adviser or cult leader. If he has helped bring him closer to christ, GOOD. How many times have you blanked out, gone to sleep or drifted away in church? Half of you are probably too lazy to get up and go. The way he went about this also shows what type of stand up man he is, he did not feed this man to the wolves, don't you want a stand up guy who can speak clear english in the white house and was beyond a C average in school?
We all have said some racist things and even had some racist thoughts at one point in our lifetime. Most time we don't even realize when our sterotypes go from generalizations to racist banter. Just deal with it there is a black (african-american) man running for the highest office in the land and a woman who has already made history as a former First Lady in the senate as well as a Vet who is well respect in Lincoln's party, McClain. 2008 is an exemplary year for American politics and social activism. Now, if only you all could channel this much fire and passion into your job responsibilities, communities, and the economy maybe we wouldn't have some of the problems we face today.

Posted by: TCMoore | March 19, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Obama's pastor and mentor of 20 years, Jeremiah Wright is a man who less than a week after 9/11 gave a sermon that sadistically rejoiced how America's chickens had come home to roost. Five days earlier, Americans (of all colors, incidentally) had leapt from the World Trade Center to escape the flames. And this is the Wright context!

Posted by: destiny | March 19, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Mike: A very convenient definition of "racism." So, only white people can be racist. And when a friend of mine was shot in the head and killed by two black men who admitted they were looking for a white dude to kill; that's not racism. But when Geraldine Ferraro makes a statement as to why she thinks Obama has come so far so fast, that is? It is interesting, but your convenient definition is exactly like that taught by Rev. Wright and other black theology proponents. I don't hold black people responsible for the killing of my friend; only the individuals who committed the crime. Isn't it about time that some black people (e.g. Rev. Wright and his ilk), stop blaming all white people for the ills of the world?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"For all the wonderful rhetoric and tantalizing promise of Obama and his speech, there's not much that is actually new here. Obama's speech was largely a restatement of Jeremiah Wright's indictment of America, delivered in University of Chicago parlance instead of South Side Chicago diatribe".

Posted by: Dongshanzaiqi | March 19, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

The cat is out of the bag, and we are now seeing the real soul of Obama being revealed by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright who, by the way, would have likely ended up in the Obama cabinet at the White House were Obama to be elected.

Posted by: BigEasy | March 19, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

What kind of a guy throws both his pastor and his granny under the bus?

http://www.newslampoon.com/baracks_granny.htm

Posted by: newslamp | March 19, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Wake up people! I have read some very trivial and baseline stuff on here. Point blank a lot of you are scared to hear the real deal, we all talk about race and yes in the black community it really does get talked about in the salons and barber shops. I've heard other cultures talk about each other after work at bars using what should be thought of as racial comments and stereotyping. Secondly, over the past 20 years I've heard my pastor say some outlandish bofoonery and comments that should never be said in a church. Does that mean I believe every word he says and I hold his values? NO! This man was his spiritual adviser not life and work adviser or cult leader. If he has helped bring him closer to christ, GOOD. How many times have you blanked out, gone to sleep or drifted away in church? Half of you are probably too lazy to get up and go.
We all have said some racist things and even had some racist thoughts at one point in our lifetime. Most time we don't even realize when our sterotypes go from generalizations to racist banter. Just deal with it there is a black (african-american) man running for the highest office in the land and a woman who has already made history as a former First Lady in the senate as well as a Vet who is well respect in Lincoln's party, McClain. 2008 is an exemplary year for American politics and social activism. Now, if only you all could channel this much fire and passion into your job responsibilities, communities, and the economy maybe we wouldn't have some of the problems we face today.

Posted by: TCMoore | March 19, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

T. Webb: Wright is not Obama's mother or father, he is his "mentor and spiritual adviser" of 20 years. You don't pick your mother or father; you can choose not to attend a racist and anti-American church for 20 years.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

So the guy's former pastor is a bit of a nut. Who cares? If this is how people in the US decide who is going to be president it's no wonder that the country is in the state that it's in. Pay some attention to what's actually important and perhaps you can stop your economy from collapsing.

Posted by: Stu | March 19, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I am 53 year old black man, I would venture to say, that most of my white counterparts will say they have heard a love one or two use the n-word towards a black person. If that love one was a mother or father how many of you if any would denounce a parent because they displayed racist actions.

T. Webb

Posted by: T. Webb | March 19, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

If you don't have anything good to say than don't say it. Those of you racist who are down on Barack were against him in the first place. He is far more noble than the hypocrites who claim to be religious and still spite him for doing positive responses to attacks. You were against him in the first place probably because you can't stand the thought of a black man being the leader of our great yet flawed nation. Most of us don't have Masters degrees from Harvard and actually earned them (ie: Chucklenuts GWBush)and have the intelligence to show for it. Being down on Barack only shows how backwards so many Americans can be. This is 2008 not 1908. Racism may always exist to some extent, but it is possible to have all sides get closer to understanding. Progress will happen no matter how ignorant some people will continue to choose to be. Not that is matters but I wonder what race you think I am.

Posted by: KJinOR | March 19, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

You people calling Obama liar probably voted for Bush who lied us into a war.

Posted by: chatterer | March 19, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Mr. G. where was your brotha Barak before this speech? Listening to hateful sermons for 20 years !! The guy has psycological issues...having been abondoned by a black father, he is angry at his white side of the family, and has a need to rebel and show that he is black, very black - so black that he joined this trinity chruch, donated money and time to the church for 20 years, and never uttered a word about racial reconciliation - the hypocrite. Now that he is caught with his pants down, he is doing what he does best - gloss over the real issues with eloquently delivered drivel

Shameful fellow this BARAK.
No JUDGEMENT
No LEADERSHIP

Only HOT AIR

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

For all the OBAMA lovers I'm still waiting for someone to name his 3 great accomplishments. If they did a 60 minute story on his accomplishments it would only take 3 minutes because there are'nt any. If the white majority is stupid enough to make OBAMA the party nominee, then we deserve to lose. One picture of him and Wright together along with a Wright sermon on a commercial will doom the party and he will lose!

Posted by: Black American | March 19, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Once again it has become necessary to educate folks on the terms 'racism' and 'racist'. These terms are being bandied about and used in reference to Black folks incorrectly. Racism is the systematic oppression of one group by another, usually minority by majority. A racist is a person that espouses such beliefs of being superior, more entitled, etc. As such I submit to you that people of color in America can NEVER, nor will EVER be racists. The numbers don't add up. Sure we can be bigots, sure we can discriminate, sure we can be prejudiced. But oppressive? Nope... Please enlighten yourselves on these terms...

Posted by: Mike | March 19, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

A "Black" Man, A Moor, John Hanson
Was the First President of the United States! 1781-1782 A.D.

George Washington
was really the 8th President of the United States!


George Washington was not the first President of the United States. In fact, the first President of the United States was one John Hanson. Don't go checking the encyclopedia for this guy's name - he is one of those great men that are lost to history. If you're extremely lucky, you may actually find a brief mention of his name.

The new country was actually formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation.
This document was actually proposed on June 11, 1776, but not agreed upon by Congress until November 15, 1777. Maryland refused to sign this document until Virginia and New York ceded their western lands (Maryland was afraid that these states would gain too much power in the new government from such large amounts of land).

Once the signing took place in 1781, a President was needed to run the country. John Hanson was chosen unanimously by Congress (which included George Washington). In fact, all the other potential candidates refused to run against him, as he was a major player in the revolution and an extremely influential member of Congress.

As the first President, Hanson had quite the shoes to fill. No one had ever been President and the role was poorly defined. His actions in office would set precedent for all future Presidents.

He took office just as the Revolutionary War ended. Almost immediately, the troops demanded to be paid. As would be expected after any long war, there were no funds to meet the salaries. As a result, the soldiers threatened to overthrow the new government and put Washington on the throne as a monarch.

All the members of Congress ran for their lives, leaving Hanson as the only guy left running the government. He somehow managed to calm the troops down and hold the country together. If he had failed, the government would have fallen almost immediately and everyone would have been bowing to King Washington. In fact, Hanson sent 800 pounds of sterling siliver by his brother Samuel Hanson to George Wasington to provide the troops with shoes.

Hanson, as President, ordered all foreign troops off American soil, as well as the removal of all foreign flags. This was quite the feat, considering the fact that so many European countries had a stake in the United States since the days following Columbus.

Hanson established the Great Seal of the United States, which all Presidents have since been required to use on all official documents.

President Hanson also established the first Treasury Department, the first Secretary of War, and the first Foreign Affairs Department.

Lastly, he declared that the fourth Thursday of every November was to be Thanksgiving Day, which is still true today.

The Articles of Confederation only allowed a President to serve a one year term during any three year period, so Hanson actually accomplished quite a bit in such little time.

Six other presidents were elected after him - Elias Boudinot (1783), Thomas Mifflin (1784), Richard Henry Lee (1785), Nathan Gorman (1786), Arthur St. Clair (1787), and Cyrus Griffin (1788) - all prior to Washington taking office.

So what happened?

Why don't we ever hear about the first seven Presidents of the United States?

It's quite simple - The Articles of Confederation didn't work well. The individual states had too much power and nothing could be agreed upon.

A new doctrine needed to be written - something we know as the Constitution.

And that leads us to the end of our story.

George Washington was definitely not the first President of the United States. He was the first President of the United States under the Constitution we follow today.

And the first seven Presidents are forgotten in history.

READ IT AND WEEP! MAN KNOW THY SELF AND YOUR HISTORY!

Posted by: Mr. G | March 19, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Fred: Have you are anyone you have ever
known said anything offensive to anyone else? What about you, are you free of that sin?

Seriously speaking, it is really sad with all that's going on in the world that Barack Obama's biggest offense (that I hear from you and a few others), is his association with Rev. Wright.

How about if your CEO invited you out to an event to discuss that promotion and one of the waiters was a beautiful buxom black women and your boss made a comment about wondering what it would be like to know her on a more physical level due to her race and attributes, would you denounce reprimand him and then disassociate?

Maybe you will say that your not running for President or that it doesn't apply to you for other reasons, but the reality is that there are a million other ways to change the language in the question to gear it towards you and provoke the same in depth thought process.

And the reality is that if we look at any one person, if we put any one person beneath a microscope, then we in turn are putting ourselves beneath a larger one...look at Spitzer!

Posted by: PJB | March 19, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I write these comments as a 19 year Army Veteran, who served this country honorably. The truth is that it does not matter what anyone says because "RACE" will always be an issue for this country and the world.

It was religion and a tampered with bible that was forced into the minds of slaves when they were brought here to labor for nothing and it was the white establishment who decided that we as a nation of people were called minorities. Minor to what? and to who? Our history was ripped from our minds, our culture was polluted with european ideas. You even created a white Jesus to justify your status and then had the nerve to steal our ancient story and created your own around it. Then to add more insult to injury claim that the greeks and romans created civilization.

Blackmen were lynched and burned at the stake while the so-called masters laugh at it. Our women and daughters were raped, beaten and injected with fear and this was transferred to the children. Who in turn grew up scared of there own people and was taught to believe in a mystery GOD for relief. The only relief is when we take matters in our own hands and stop depending on America for anything because she feels that she does not owe us nothing anyway.

The Constitution states that we the fathers and mothers of civilization are still considered 3/5ths of a person so we should not speak our minds. We are supposed to have the freedom of speech but as soon as a person states the truth everyone has a problem with the that. You all want us to forget the things that happen to our people and you don't want to be reminded of it.

RACE is not a black or white issue it was something that was created by the facist regime of this country to keep us all divided. I went to WAR three times to fight for this American Way of Life and I woke up to lies and nightmares. FREEDOM IS NOT FREE! Obama is a by product of black and white and you people just can not believe that he is doing what he is doing! He spoke with responsibility and accountability for someone's point of view and although he did not agree with his pastor's view,you people still got a problem with him.

Race is defined as getting to a destination not a group of people linked by appearance! WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT A BLACK MAN IS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT! IF YOU KNEW YOUR HISTORY, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS NOT THE FIRST PRESIDENT OF THIS CORPORATION CALLED THE USA-IT WAS A BLACKMAN. I am not anti-white or pro-black, I am anti-devilishment and pro righteous. DO WHAT IS RIGHT! AND STOP THINKING WEAK AND WICKED BY USING THE MEDIA TO POISON THE MINDS OF PEOPLE.

Posted by: Mr. G | March 19, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

In reality, Nothing has changed - Obama is still soul searching, People who support Obama, continue to be moved by his speeches and people who chose to look beyond the hype continue to question his true capability beyond his oratorial skills.

Obama is full of ego and has made derogatory and disparaging comments in relation to other communities and the opposite sex before. He is no saint, all the mistaken comparisons of him to the historical legends in any part is an insult to those legends. All this speech giving right now is nothing more than damage control and free press.

For 20 years, he has been listening to Wright and seeking his counsel and all of sudden he had an awakening? Why dont you question for a minute that - a guy who can vehemently take a stance against the war, who refuses to wear his country's flag lapel pin because thats not the way he is proud of his country and so on and on - can be passionate and take a stand on some issues but he didn't ever stand up to his pastor or leave the church for the last 20 years? Come on, give us a break, He has always been confused and he is even now. With this speech, That is the only thing that has been elevated to the higher plane for every one to see.

Posted by: Raj | March 19, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

For those of you who were inspired by Barak the SHAMEFUL closet RACIST, more power to you all. BUt still doesnt change the fact that this SHAMELESS HUCKSTER supported - with his own money, and regular presence OVER 20 YEARS !! a racists pastor, and a racist church.

For all his communication skills, the fact remains - (1) The HUCKSTER Barak has bad judgement, and (2) The HUCKSTER has not shown any leadership on this subject.

WORDS are just WORDS. So believe in fairly tales, but bay this guy is TOAST now

SHAME SHAME Barak.

You can fool some of the people ALL the time, but you cannot fool ALL the people sometime - not this time - sweet tongued snakeoil saleman !!!

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed at what kind of rhetoric passes for "a speech for the ages". I find it hard to believe that this was and is the only time Reverand Wright's sermon and teaching was so inflammatory. That kind of language has been ostracized everywhere I've been. Obama states that language is also evident in beauty shops and barber shops tells me that racism is more openly discussed than in the barber and beauty shops I've been in. Inexcusable - one question I've not seen asked nor answered is what would have happened if Billy Graham had been such a narrow minded bigot? Billy Graham ministered to many presidents and was a man of faith in God, the peace and love of God. If this minister had been a white minister would there be so much praise in the candidate's stance of not condemning the minister for preaching divisiveness and racial differences?

Posted by: Malloy | March 19, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Disclaimer: This only applies to those blacks that feel sorry for themselves

You poor folks. Hard to over come 400 years of bad treatment and get rid of all the hate. Hmmmmm....and I wonder why there are no such open displays of hate from Jews, who have faced persecution for OVER 2000 (that is thousand) years !!!

Barak supported this racist church. He still supports this racist pastor. The one he threw under the bus was his WHITE grandma !!! chh chhh cchhhh

shameful fellow this guy Barak

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Yvette: My answer is just below your statements.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Remove the smoke screen and all the masks, we will see that the entire issue is not about race. The white men had been consistently supported Obama, otherwise how he managed to come thus far? The real issue is HONESTY, INTEGRITY, TRUTHFULNESS. Do a comparison of his statement on the Friday before his so called "major speech", you will see the glaring inconsistencies. We are talking about putting a man up as President of America!

Posted by: Substance | March 19, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Fred: Let's review why Barack had to do damage control. Because the media and people like you think he must answer for someone else's beliefs, and opinions. Which in itself is almost an impossible task to accomplish and regardless of the obvious fact that you do not like him as a candidate (which you are entitled to of course!) you have to acknowledge that he did a great job of accomplishing that task.

Fred: Are you telling me that EVERYONE you know or love AGREES with everything you say? BULL! Should they be judged and held accountable for the words that come out of your mouth or the thoughts in your head? Should they disown you because of the things you say or likely will say in the future because they and many others don't agree with you? I don't think so.

You can say complain all you want and attempt to diminish the impact that speech had on all Americans; but the truth is if what he said did not hit such a raw core in America YOU would not be giving a second thought. Let alone discussing it on this very blog.

Posted by: Yvette Oneil | March 19, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Quote "Substance: those same remarks about his grandma are in his book! It was there for anyone to read long before he made the speach."
This is even worse. He expose his grandmother as a "racist" in the book, but did not said anything about his pastor's views.

Posted by: Paul | March 19, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

The bottom line issues that disqualify Barak are the following:

1. Lack of judgement - no he is not responsible for the ocmments of Wright, but shows poor judgement to be associated with someone with such hatred in his heart for 20+ years !!!

2. No leadership - has not done anything that anyone can piint to to show that he was trying to bridgethe racial differences, that he is so eloquent in highlighting (and supporting in his church)

WORDS are just that WORDS - there is no history of action on this controversial issue, except maybe fanning racism. Even in the speech yesterday, there was no grand plan outlined to overcome the racial differences, except what was said by that great philospoher (King from LA) many years back - "can't we all just get along"

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Yvette: First, Obama had to do damage control because ABC bought videos of Wright's speeches off the church's website, and showed America what Obama has been listening to for 20 years. Further, in private life, I don't believe that anyone should have to answer for the beliefs of another. In public life, however, it sometimes becomes relevant. Will you honestly say that if Hillary had been going to a white supremacist church for 20 years, considered its pastor to be her "mentor and spiritual advisor", and that pastor was on various videos making racist and anti-American statements -- can you honestly say that if these things were true, all it would take is a really good speech from Hillary denouncing some of the more egregious statements by her pastor to forgive, forget and move on? No need to answer, because the answer is obvious to any rational person. As to whether or not everyone I know agrees with me; that's not relevant to this issue at all, because I am not the "mentor and spiritual adviser" to any Presidential candidate.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Substance: those same remarks about his grandma are in his book! It was there for anyone to read long before he made the speach.
Disaproving of his grandma's and his pastor's views proves Obama's integrity, not racism.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

If you are not a minority you have no right to say how someone from another race or belief feels about something. Race is still as taboo as religion, sex and politics. White America needs to get a grip on reality and see how easily judgemental they are about "thems colored folks" or "them daggum feriners". Those of you who claim to be religious should adhere to the WWJD way and not find thin misinterpretations in the Bible to justify your hatred towards those that aren't like you.

Posted by: KJinOR | March 19, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I ca accept that people disagree with Obama's politics, but the responses in some of these emails show a hate that goes beyond politics. I am a black man of Rev. Wright's generation. Like him I served in the military (2 tours in Vietnam) he in the Marines and me in the Army. I ove my country enough to fight in a war I thought was wrong and I love my country enough to admit to and work to change her flaws. Barack was not defending Wright.He was pointing out the reasons many of us of that generation feel the way we do. I watched many pundits harp on the unrealistic view that the "government created aids and tunred it loose on the world". It is not a farfetched idea to a people who were given syphillis deliberately, without their knowledge to see how it ravaged the human body(the Tuskeegee Experiments) or who had women involuntarily sterilized in Southern States.

To expect folks to forget 400plus years of hurt and discrrimination, because we've been treated nice recently is unrealistic.

Those 4-5 minutes of snippets where Rev Wright ranted against America does not bespeak his entire life. Not his honorable service in the Marine Corps, not his standard Christian sermons and service. I am certain we all have had our moments of being hateful to others, ranting against the government about taxes, or some other real or perceived slight.

No. all white people are not racists and many have justifiable grievances. Some have ancestors who came here in involuntary servitude (bondspeople), but none have endured the history of native Americans or black Americans.

What is the fear of an open discussion of race? The only way to get this behind us is to discuss openly and honestly and move on to make things better for everyone.

Posted by: David Ghee | March 19, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama can throw anyone under the bus include his white grandmother but not Wright. Doing so is as good as suicide as the blacks will tear him into pieces. Forget about 90% of black votes from Missisipi. He had managed thus far is purely by playing the race card, a commodity that is solely his to use. Anyone trying like those in the Clinton Camp will be burned beyond recognition. Don't believe, ask him to disown Wright and see the result. I'm still feeling sad over his racist remarks on his white grandmother,,,

Posted by: Substance | March 19, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Questions for Barak:

1. What have you done prior to this speech to improve race relations - what is the track record on this front? All I know is that you wanted Don Imus fired because he used some PC incorrect language.

2. Why did it take until so late in your career to denounce statements by Wright?

3. What are Michelle's true feelings about whites in general? Will she still be proud of America is Barak looses PA, IN, NC, WV, KT, PR? and the Superdelgates choose Hillary?

4. Are you in favor of affirmative action?

Keep the pressure on Barak....This guy is NOT fit to be the President of this great nation - my adopted country.

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Anonymous, not throwing his mentor and spiritual adviser over is the only thing I do give Obama credit for. Otherwise, his silent acceptance of hate, racism and anti-Americanism is an issue for me, as well as many others. And, yes, maybe Wright did not make abhorrent statements at every sermon, but his theology of hate must have surfaced plenty of times over that 20 years. I know that if I were in a church and heard racist statements about blacks, or I saw a pastor humping an imaginary Monica Lewinsky in order to disparage Bill Clinton, I would turn around and leave, never to return. But that's just me; I don't like racism, period.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Fred: Let's review why did Barack had to do damage control. Because the media and people like you think he must answer for someone else's beliefs, and opinions. Which in itself is almost an impossible task to accomplish and regardless of the obvious fact that you do not like him as a candidate (which you are entitled to of course!) you have to acknowledge that he did a great job of accomplishing that task.

Fred: Are you telling me that EVERYONE you know or love AGREES with everything you say? BULL! Should they be judged and held accountable for the words that come out of your mouth or the thoughts in your head? Should they disown you because of the things you say or likely will say in the future because they and many others don't agree with you? I don't think so.

Posted by: Yvette Oneil | March 19, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Jewish people are becoming racist. Since my natural father was Jewish I am embarrassed.

Posted by: Gary Anderson | March 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Jewish people are becoming racist. Since my natural father was Jewish I am embarrassed.

Posted by: Gary Anderson | March 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Jewish people are becoming racist. Since my natural father was Jewish I am embarrassed.

Posted by: Gary Anderson | March 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Jewish people are becoming racist. Since my naturl father was Jewish I am embarrassed.

Posted by: Gary Anderson | March 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Jewish people are becoming racist. Since my naturla father was Jewish I am embarrassed.

Posted by: Gary Anderson | March 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Barak Huesein Obama is the anti-Christ!!

Posted by: The Rayman | March 19, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The fascination that the young have for Barak, is for the same reason why men/women fantasize being with the "bad" (naughty)girl/guy to date and have fun, but choose a totally different person to marry. So romance Barak, but when you are ready to marry....it will be Hillary or McCain - need driver's licnese for entry into this club !!

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Please stop compare McCain accepting endorsements from some evangelical controversial pastors with Mr. Obama support of pastor Wright. McCain was not a member of their churches, he did not contribute any money to them he even did not actively seek their endorsements. On many occasions he directly confront their views which cost him dearly in the past and current primaries.

Posted by: Paul | March 19, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Fred: It was crazy and courageous at the same time. Even you have to agree that Obama could (and many say should) have easily condemned Wright and faked shameful apology for having attended that church for so long. Any seasoned politician would have (and many have done with a varying degree of success).

Wright's subscription to Cone's theology (and I don't knwo enough about this to discuss it) is indeed abhorent, but I am confident this was not preached at his church every Sunday.

Hate is not going to resolve anything. Racism has been taboo for too long. Black, white, hispanic... An open conversation, a dialogue about is long overdue. Otherwise we will never exit out of our one-colored trenches of hatred.

I think he did a good job opening this dialogue - look at this blog!

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Everyone keeps saying "I can't believe he sat there for 20 years" Like they really believe that every sermon and each entire sermon was like the snips you see on You Tube. More likely the sermons were mostly normal but sometimes he went overboard. Do you kick away someone who brought you to your faith and married you for going overboard? If you have no loyalty or are closed minded and unforgiving you do. That he didnt disown him shows he is a stronger person than most.

Posted by: markinsa | March 19, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I Watched to the whole speech and was very disappointed! He started out with what could have and should have been a landmark speech on race relations and racism in America. What we got and it quickly turned into was yet once again a dodging sidestep answer about the people he chooses to keep including in his campaign and in his life. Yet this press release didn't even stop there! This speech/press release then turns into nothing more then a stump speech of the same old rhetoric he has used on the road already. Finally in the closing we see the whole reason for his "speech" which turns out to be nothing more then a set up for a campaign ad. What more can you call it when he said we all have a choice on which path to take and unless you chose to vote for me it will be the wrong path, wrong choice and wrong vote. I find this shameful that he tired to hook all this in under the notion that this was a speech on race relations. Who has brought race into this election? Who IS bringing race into this election? NOBAMA! That's who!

Posted by: snags85 | March 19, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

A defining speech indeed. When he mentioned and finally admitted that he had previously heard remarks that could be considered controversial and that he strongly disagree with many of his (Rev. Wright) political views. As soon as these words were uttered, he realized that it was a grave mistake to go against his statement just days ago. Quick thinking Obama indeed: "I'm sure many of you have heard remarks from your pastors, priests, or rabbis with which you strongly disagreed.". By this, he defined every American is guilty of the same offense as he. What a joke? And instead pointing him out for lying under broad daylight and take offense by his insinuation, many applaused despite being "slapped". Truly Inspiring? Sad.

Posted by: Substance | March 19, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

What an amazing speech! I have no doubt that Obama has the potential to be not only a great president, but one of the greatest statesmen/orators of our time.

For those of you who only experienced the soundbites, I encourage you to watch his speech in its entirety. If you approach it from a strictly non-partisan point of view, you'll get goosebumps! Hillary and McCain are both, I believe, good people. Either will make a good president. Obama, however, will make an extraordinary president.

Posted by: Edmund Burke | March 19, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Let's all be honest about this race issue. There is a huge double standard operating here, and whether one wants to admit it, I think it is rather obvious to us all. Hillary discusses Martin Luther King, Jr.'s cooperation with Lyndon Johnson in the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and Obama plays the race card. Bill Clinton tries to correct the false impression Obama has given about his alleged continual opposition to the Iraq war by calling Obama's portrayal of his Iraq position a "fairy tale" and Obama plays the race card. (For those who doubt these last two statements, go back at look at the debate where Tim Russert busts Obama for four pages of press releases regarding these issues and the race card Obama was playing). Don Imus makes a racially insensitive statement on the air, and Obama calls for his firing and complains that he doesn't want his children to be exposed to such things. Geraldine Ferraro made just one statement which Obama thought was inappropriate, and he hit the ceiling. However, we are supposed to ignore 20 years of racist and anti-American rants from Obama's adviser because he made a good speech. WHY DON'T WE HOLD OBAMA TO THE SAME STANDARD HE HOLDS OTHERS? You Obama apologists, just admit it - it is your view that racist statements are only deplorable when made by those who have no connection to Obama. Go ahead and admit it, at least to yourself. The truth will set you free.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

I very much believe that everyone does have to look at age and history as factors in what people say. I do not think that is "giving an excuse" or aligning yourself with someone who is hateful. What it is, is realizing that someone who is beloved in other ways and is a part of your family's history as a constant character, may say things without thinking based on their past experiences. Much like grandparents do all the time. THAT is why the comparison was valid.

I believe that this speech was truly great, and in the future will be seen for that fact. Sadly, some of the American public isn't ready to see that yet because they are too busy clinging to inconsequential side issues in order to support their outdated beliefs on what this country needs and is. Do what you will, but if you honestly believe that we need to just continue the course of this country "as is" which is what we WILL get from McCain and Clinton then I feel sorry for you. You are the ones with the blinders on.

Our country is not healthy and it is not prospering except for the few very rich. You want to stay in the war that is sucking our resources dry to accomplish nothing? Vote for McCain. You want to stick with someone who is beholden and will time and time again bend over for the lobbyists in Washington? Vote for Clinton. But if you want someone who actually has some new ideas then don't be so quick to dismiss Obama on things that really... do not matter.

Posted by: kh | March 19, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Debra: White preachers DO preach derogatory and inflammatory stereotypes about "urban communities" & "ethnic cleansing."

I don't think this style of preaching is a Black or White thing. I believe that each church regardless of their neighborhood reaches and preaches to their congregation based on THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, CULTURE and atmosphere.

I think that Barack's EX-PASTOR is getting attention because he is a black pastor who deared cast 'bad words' about racial inequality in America. Had a White pastor said what he said he would be getting props! Why isn't anyone questioning the 3 Preachers endorsing John McCain? One of them said New Orleans happened because sinners were getting what they deserved. One said AIDS was Gods will against homosexuals?? Someone please explain to me why then God would let innocent children, wives, husbands, etc..get AIDS?

Bottom line, the pendulum swings both ways. Barack was not saying that the black race deserves preferential treatment because of racism. He was simply saying that racism is a broad thing, whites, blacks, hispanics, italians, asians WE ALL FACE SOME FORM OF RACISM and unfortunately adhere (consciously or subconsiously) to stupid racial stereotypes from the past and present.

Barack was saying let's try to WORK TOGETHER to eliminate racism and even gender discrimination. Again, unfortunately their are those that will never think this way. They live and breathe hatred, disdain, and intimidation.

Posted by: ymaxoneil | March 19, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

They can make such statements because A: they never listened to the speech in its entirety, just the clips presented on Faux News, B: they did listen to it but refuse to have an open mind or shed their biased "filters" and preconceptions or C: they are simply looking for any possible fault in what they percieve as a "librul" or "uppity ..." in which case, why try to rationalize with the irrational?

Posted by: Answer for Chris | March 19, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Why did Obama deliver the speech in mid-morning instead of on primetime television?

Posted by: Concerned | March 19, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

To all of you that harp on "how can Obama allow his children to be exposed to such hateful teachings", do you allow your children to watch television? If so, then how can you allow your children to be exposed to such violence, hatred, degradation, superficiality, blatant displays of greed and rampant materialism, and sexual content? Are you intentionally trying to corrupt and dumb them down?!!! Shame on you! At least Obama took this kids to a place that read out of the Bible.

Posted by: Save The Children | March 19, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Nothing Obama says can erase twenty years of embracing that man, that church and all that hatred. He should have denounced Wright years ago and given that pretty little speech from that church's pulpit. Then, he should have walked out the door to a real church. That speech was pure CYA to save his campaign. Everyone who wants Obama out needs to inform the Democratic Party in no uncertain terms. E-mail them, call them, write to them. Let them know that if Obama is their candidate, we are voting for McCain.

Posted by: onefreakinword | March 19, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I honestly can't understand how people could listen to Obama's thoughtful, intelligent and inclusive speech and make comments suggesting that he is a racist or that his membership at Trinity Church identifies him as complicit in racial bigotry or anti-Americanism.

That whole speech is about challenging our commonly held beliefs about race. He is asking Americans to first consider where our own views are derived from and then consider the strength of our own experiences in shaping the way we think before we condemn others for the beliefs they hold. The many one dimensional and asinine responses to this speech clearly illustrate a lack of analytical depth in America and a distorted self image. If we can't see ourselves in others then we are all blinded.

Rev. Wright and Senator Obama represent two different generations of black activists. The difference between the two of them embodies an astounding sense or progress. That should give America hope.

Posted by: chris | March 19, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

While I am not a psycologist, I will try and playone here. I think Barak, for all his eloquence and communications skills, is a very insecure individual (finds it easier to avoid making tough / controversial choices). Perhaps this insecurity stems from having a black father that left him while young (hence, his need to identify as a black). I think there is latent hatred within Barak for whites, but since he doesnt want to be obvious about it, he prefers to attend a white hating church so that he feels good while others do the dirty work. I think his wife is definitively been influenced emensely by Wright, hence her comments of being Proud of America for the first time (WOW - all makes sense now). But to expose two young kids to this drivel fo Wright borders on child abuse and/or neglect (mayeb early indoctrination) - surely we dont want need such racists to be leading the country. I dont !! and I am not even white or black, but a perfectly toasted brown.

Posted by: Bill O'bama | March 19, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Here's what I've gathered from some of the anti-Obama crowd so far... You would apparently rather vote for McCain, who seems to get a pass by the media on his affiliation with hate filled anti-Catholic preachers; a true neocon who sold out his convictions against torture to get the GOP nomination, and who supports even more middle-east destabilization. That tells me that ya'll are just hopelessly violent, unaware of how two-faced you are, or simply astonishingly ignorant. Secondly, you demand that someone be held accountable for the words that someone else uttered on a couple of occasions, despite the fact that 99% of what else was preached was pretty much the same as what we heard from Jesus Himself - helping the poor, denouncing the hypocrisy of those in power, unity, and loving your neighbor. That tells me that you must be either woefully ignorant of Jesus' teachings, lacking his teaching in your life, blind to the truth no matter how clearly it is presented to you, or simply hopelessly unforgiving. If you are looking for the "perfect candidate", then you will be sorely disappointed. Might I suggest removing the log out of your eye before you attempt to remove the speck of dust from Obama's eye? Please excuse me for casting pearls into the hog lot, but I'm really growing tired of hearing such garbage.

Posted by: VoiceOReason | March 19, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

SF. How can you READ the color of someone's skin on a blog??

I guess if we SPOKE on a phone and I was articulate you could tell I was white huh?
Are you saying white people are incapable of understanding or relating to blacks?
Have you considered that there are multi-racial people on this blog?

You are generalizing people, words and opinions and that's a major mistake.

Posted by: ymaxoneil | March 19, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I only see racial divide here, why did Obama have to make the campaign racial. It should be about the better candidate, not the color of their skin. I'm glad this came out and his true colors are flying, otherwise some good people may have voted for this racist. If a white man's preacher had said half of what Wright said, he would have to go live under a rock and never be heard from again. Everyone is so scared of hurting someone's feelings, they bend over backwards not to say certain things, but Wright never even studdered, he spouted hatred for white American. The blacks stick together no matter what, right or wrong, innocent or guilty. Time for the white people to do the same, I'm tired of bending over backwards.

Posted by: Debra | March 19, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Yvette: Obama made this speech because he had to; he had to control the damage related to the news about his relationship with Wright. The fact that he gave the speech I though was rather cowardly; I would much rather he gave a press conference where he could have answered any and all questions regarding the incident. We all know he gives a good speech.

PJB: I was wondering who would be the first fool to play the race card against me. Look at my posts regarding black liberation theology; they consist of direct quotes from one of the architects of it, Rev. James Cone. If you don't like those quotes, then you must take it up with him. But don't call me a "racist" for quoting him. Playing the race card is truly the last refuge of fools who have no other argument to make.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I would like to see Hillary climb up on stage and give a speech on racism to counter what Obama has said. I believe it will go like these

'I helped black americans for the past 35 years. I have a plan to eradicate racism that covers all the blacks without leaving 10 million behind. I am ready to tackle race issues on day one. I am ready to take a 3am phone call from any racist.'

Hillary has proved time and again that she is not able to say something unless it has been rehersed a 100 times before, and unless her camp conducts a poll first to decide what people will say. She has the same words that she puts in every sentence she says whether it is a push back at the republicans or whether it is demeaning her opponent.

The choice is clear. Obama has a clear vision, he has clear communication skills. Hillary has poor communication skills, and her vision for this country is behind a thick fog. Her reason to run for this election was way too calculated, her every move during the campaign was way too calculated, her choice of surrogates is way too calculated. But after all these calculations what we see is that people's choice does not chime with Hillary's calculations. Race was brought in as an issue a lot more than gender itself. While Hillary hung on to the coattails of gender bias, Obama rose above the race issues instead of saying it is time for a black president.

The words Obama used in his speech are very clear. The sentences he made were very clear, regardless of whether the listener was black or white. If Hillary has to give a speech on gender, I bet that it will only highlight the bias between the sexes. It will also try to rally women to go out in numbers to vote for her since she is a woman. On the other hand, Obama's speech was to the point. He did not use it as a face time for him to ask people to go and vote for him or to trash Hillary.

Obama came out as a clear winner.

Posted by: Shawn Purcell | March 19, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I ask everyone anyone named "3 Major Accomplishments of OBAMA as a legislator. Look at his resume, is he really qualified to have the most important job in the entire world. George Bush proved not anyone can do the job.. We tried a rookie before. OBAMA is the Paris Hilton of politics famous yet has really done nothing but look good.

Posted by: Black American | March 19, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Fred: you seem to be forgetting the media and people like you called for Barack to make a statement about his pastor, faith and religious beliefs. He did and now he is being opportunistic?? Give me a break to people like you ...no matter what he does you will only see the what you want.

Posted by: Yvette Oneil | March 19, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Brian: Fred is a racist, did you read his last comment about black theology. Fred you have no clue about black theology only you hate. It is seething from you!

Posted by: PJB | March 19, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Yvette: You seem to be forgetting that the ONLY reason Obama gave that speech now, after attending that racist and anti-American church for 20 years, is because he was outed by the press. Now, who is opportunistic?

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

May the REAL and BEST person win the elections. We need a REAL visionary, a person that understands what it's like to work for your goals and dreams, not some rich trust fund beneficiary in the office. All of you racists, and bigots, please die and go away, please die. Soon you will be an artifact of the past, and that time has come.

Posted by: The Hammer | March 19, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Hillary supports on CNN last night said she will give a speech now on "Gender Discrimination in America."

What an opportunistic moron! She is trying to ride on Barack's back and deliver a speech about feminism.

Barack's speech was not a ploy it was necessary to answer questions about his beliefs, honesty, and loyalty to America. Barack passed with flying colors!

If Hillary does a voluntary speech about gender discrimination in America she will fail because it will be an obvious ploy to perpetuate her as a victim in the public eye. WE ALL KNOW HILLARY IS FAR FROM BEING VICTIMIZED. Ask ALL of Bill Clinton's mistresses (that we know of!) who kept them from exposing Bill for so long.

To date we have not heard one criticism of about Hillary Clinton as a female candidate for President. You want to know why? I will tell you why. It is because she is NOT competition on the level of John McCain. If she was Hillary would have faced even more scrutiny then Barack did about his Pastor!

Posted by: Yvette Oneil | March 19, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I HAVE SEEN JUST AS MANY BLACKS AS WHITE PEOPLE THAT ARE RACIST.IF YOU SEE IT ANY DEFERENCE JUST READ YOU CAN PICK THE ONE BY THE WHITE AND THE ONE BY BLACKS SO.if you ask me I WOULD THINK THAT OBAMA GRANDMOTRER WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE RACIST

Posted by: SF | March 19, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Brian: I don't know, you would have to ask him that question and hope he tells the truth. All we do know is that he has attending a church for 20 years where they preach black liberation theology, which is a perversion of Christianity based upon the following ideas, as expressed by Rev. Wright's mentor, James Cone:

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Brian, based upon the theology of the church, a better guess is that its followers are hateful towards whites, rather than blacks.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why real issues seem to just pass over peoples heads. Obama is a politican, regardless of his race or skin color. No matter who was up there speaking on race issues, I bet the same responses would still come to light. Obama should be praised just for even talking about the issues publicly, even though if you actually think about it, could hurt him politically.

Having a white mother and black father and raised in a christian church, I can identify will alot of the previous responses. I wonder though, are benefits for races any different than big business or lobby groups. Everyone wants everything for themselves or the groups they associate themselves with. Is it a wonder why America is in such a bad state right now.

I can't say that I agree with everything Obama has to say, but as a whole he talks of hope. I don't get the same feeling from any other presidental prospect. I get that feeling of the same-o same-o. People need to remember that these politicans are just human biengs like the rest of us. I tend to think that America is looking for that perfect politican, even though there has never been one.

Granted, Wright has had some questionable racist sermons. But do you think he has been preaching that white-hate in every sermon? Have you came to the aid of someone who has been effected by any racism? I'm sure alot of Americans have turned a blind eye to things of that nature. And I'm sure behind closed doors things are alot different. People disagree with other people's views all the time. Obama and Wright should be no different. We in America are just trying to have Obama disown him instead of trying to show Wright the errors in his ways.

I think we as people are missing the big picture. America needs to rebuild to it's previous greatness, but we will not be able to do that by holding on to past resentments or excuses. And not just for blacks and whites, but for all races. If we can't meet in the middle somewhere as a people, as a governement, as a country we will forever detoriate.

Posted by: Enigma08 | March 19, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

This has been a good season for common sense, on balance. Sen. Obama has singlehandedly torn the footing out from underneath those (including certain unscrupulous supporters of his) who will downplay the complexities of race to their own advantage. It was particularly refreshing to hear him admit that Mrs. Ferraro's comments were not racial, although disappointing that he also "dismissed" them as a gaffe (I recommend everyone read the full version of her comments; she was drawing a comparison between him and herself).

Unfortunately, not all political questions are procedural, but Sen. Obama has taken the step of using his unique position as a platform for advocacy - and to edify a public which has crassy allowed itself to harbor grudges.

It is remarkable that he has taken the step of publicizing himself in this fashion, which is highly commendable and more than a bit clever, but on the other hand it's still worth considering how much this truly differentiates himself from his rival for the Democratic nomination. Clinton does not revile reconciliation and action, nor fail to fight for the rights Obama wishes to promote. Obama has expertly summarized many of the core issues surrounding race, but what we need is a plan for tackling these issues systematically. So far, though, he's already attacked part of the myth of the Reagan era, good for him. We should all listen and find out what his plan is for fighting these battles - and we still need to look for the differences between him and the other candidates.

To step back to my first point, what bothers me is that Obama gets some of the nebulous "big picture" issues, but there is definitely a tendency to shy away from the pointed issues. Then again, Clinton has dumped Ferraro, as well. There's only so much progress to be made in the face of media oversimplification and amplification of out-of-context remarks, after all.

Posted by: Edwin Herdman | March 19, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

This is like a train wreck. Ugly and abhorrent, but I couldn't quit reading.

There are primarily two comments restated over and over and over again.

Obama is great. Electing anyone but Obama will lead to the ruin of America.

or

Obama is terrible. Electing Obama will lead to the ruin of America.

Truthfully, I don't like ANY of our choices. None of the candidates are what this country needs.

I am sick to death about this idiotic race issue. Is there prejudice? Yes! Can we fix it? Yeah, about the same time we fix, lust, envy, greed, sloth, gluttony, etc. It is one of the innate human flaws and we will NEVER be rid of it. The best that we can do is make sure that we fight through that instinctual distrust of those who are different (be this skin color or religious belie, or style of dress or etc.).

In the end none of this matters for this election. It does not matter what some pastor said or believes, we are not electing that pastor to President. What matters is what the candidate believes.

And I fear Obama because I have no clue what he believes. Nor can I find any supporter who can tell me any more then he believes in change. Big deal! What does that mean?

Because I have seen nothing from Obama that leads me to any change.

He is for the same old increase in government. More departments, more taxes, more laws, more, more more.

He is for the same old push for socialized medicine despite overwhelming evidence that it is an abysmal failure in every nation that has implemented it.

He is a great speaker, which I guess is how he says he wants change but promotes the same old march toward socialism that has existed in our government for nearly two decades and never gets called on it.

I will not be voting for Obama, and I fail to see how any logical person cannot look past his pretty speeches and analyze his proposals and find them as nothing more then the same old crap politics which got us to this hell hole place we are currently in.

The only change Obama offers is a change from the Clinton and Bush dynasties we have been shackled with for way too long.

Of course, the Germans wanted change and got Hitler, he was a very charismatic speaker as well. So be careful of voting for change without really looking at what change you will be getting.

Posted by: mike | March 19, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

THANK YOU, SENATOR OBAMA!
Thank you for telling us what we needed to hear, for keeping your integrity and asking others to do the same, for raising a new awareness and necessary discussion about still uncomfortable topics in race, and for inspiring the country to stand up for what's right!
I respect your Christian faith, your background, and your experiences that made you who you are.
I have great trust in your judgement and your leadership, and I'm honored to have the chance to vote for a candidate like you in my lifetime.

Posted by: JM | March 19, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm still unclear on who Obama is racist against. Help me. Is he racist against his white mother who raised him, or his black father who shares his skin color?

Posted by: Brian | March 19, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Mobedda: I agree. Hillary will run rings around McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

You said: Fred, is Obama racist against his white mother or his black father? Just wondering. I'm unclear on this.

I don't know the answer to that questions, although I was disappointed that Obama would "out" his grandmother as a racist in order to further his cause. I do know that when Farrakhan recently lauded Obama before his followers, he made a point to tell them that Malcolm X also had a white mother. Yes, Malcolm X, who hated whites with a passion until his conversion from the Nation of Islam, shortly before his murder by members of Farrakhan's church.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

The very first McCain-Obama debate will be such a beat down for the GOP that it will almost be comedy.

Posted by: Mobedda | March 19, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

How do "sound bites" impact our abilities to make sound judgments?

Dari you are right there.

Rev.Wright might have said many things during 30-40 years and in that you take just 5 minutes of sound bytes and create or destruct image of people based on that is not right.

If you do so BUSH might have said many foolish things

You just need to see Bill clinton controversy with Monica Lewisky. Whether Hillary disowned him . No ..
Why ? because -Bill clinton is more than some weeks lusty actions towards his intern. And his image should not be made based on those actions but based on his lifetime

The country should not get distracted by these things. If we do so then we are dancing along the whims of some special interest groups. People should focus on real issues and elect their leader

Posted by: Joh,KS | March 19, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Are all the typos due to the passion or the ignorance behind the words??

Posted by: Curious | March 19, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Dianna: You are correct that Democrats have often criticized conservatives for the wacky ideas of some of their religious supporters. I am struck why you do not see the corollary, here. If we criticize conservatives for accepting support from wacky right wing religious leaders, why should be not criticize Obama for not only accepting the support of a wacky, racist and anti-American pastor; but also considering that pastor his 20 year "mentor and spiritual adviser" Why the double standard?

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Fred, is Obama racist against his white mother or his black father? Just wondering. I'm unclear on this.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Fred, is Obama racist against his white mother or his black father? Just wondering.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

It is quite obvious that the people who still have problems with Obama, always had problems with Obama. The hate was just sitting, and watching, and waiting...for any opportunity to make it's move, to fester and spread.

All that try to pretend that this is not the case, only succeed to pretend. The way I see it is that white people are afraid that Obama will signify a loss of the advantages all white people have, which is more of everything without complications when compared to blacks.

Blacks are affraid that if the people elect him to presidency, it will only be to have him under a microscope, waiting to destroy him and finally prove that as romantic as it maybe to have a black president, it is ludacris to think that a black person could ever pull it off...just too much baggage culturally, to no fault of their own, just the way it is! Also, black people fear for his LIFE!

The Clintons and other political opponents also know that race is the joker in the deck. It is a detonator, very dangerous for both candidates! And of course if Obama wins the Democratic seat then McCain will have to tippy toe around that too.

Either way, I think the speech was good and potent and heartfelt. I think Wright hasn't done anything that anyonelese has not done. I think that the hateful comments are just hateful and I think that at the end of the day when all eyes are truly open, only GOD can penetrate the heart.

Pray on it, mediate and then reevaluate your responses.

Posted by: PJB | March 19, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Hillary Clinton 2008

Posted by: Eurotom | March 19, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Joan Witherspoon: Wow, are you reaching. This issue here is Obama and his continuing support for a hateful, racist and anti-American "mentor and spiritual adviser," and your response if to attack Hillary for "lying" about not hearing the speech. First, how in the world would you know that answer to that question? You wouldn't. Second, this shows that lengths to which Obama supporters will overlook ANYTHING he says or does, in order to justify their support for him.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

the chicago sun times has a number of great articles on the rezko trial,rezko's history with the chicago insiders including obama.it will be interesting to see what comes out of the bigger story of the iraqi,nadmi auchi,one of the worlds richest men, as the money man behind rezko.i think a lot of people in the primaries wish they could have a re-do in their states. if you listen hard you can probably hear a lot of shoes falling.thanks again for the press for failing to do their job

Posted by: bredto | March 19, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama's speech was timely and important. He spoke on an issue Americans seem to avoid. What I find so amazing is that other white candidates in the past (and John McCain now) have embraced conservative evangelic leaders who have as obnoxious views as Reverend Wright's. I have never heard these candidates having to justify their relationship with them. We need to get back to the issues facing our country - the economy, war, health care, etc. Why is it when we have an election, we get caught up in the drama and not focus on the big picture - what is right for our country.

Posted by: Dianna | March 19, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

More than Obama's speech on racism I was more interested in seeing how Hillary will respond to what was said. Hillary's response of 'I haven't heard it yet' says a lot about who she is. Obama's speech was announced well in advance, the media was looking forward to it. If Hillary says she missed it, it is not the truth. If she did not have time to listen to an opponent give a speech on race relations, she is not going to have time to listen to the American people complaining about race issues. Her campaign has from the beginning tried to use surrogates to surface racial tensions in the campaign. When they couldn't bring it directly on Obama they went after his associates. Hillary and Bill now find that the very card they used to hold high, that is support for the blacks is held higher by Obama. This they don't like. All they want to do is to bring down Obama since he trumps the Clintons in race relations.

I am from Philadelphia and I know a lot of my friends will vote for Hillary just based on skin color. But a lot of my friends will vote for Obama for the clear vision he has projected for reconciling divisions that exist in our society and for eradicating the fears people have of other people just because of their skin colors.

As people age, they find it harder to associate with people they did not associate with when they were young. Hillary, Bill, and their surrogates all fall within an age group who find it hard to understand that their fears are based on their past associations. We can correct them. But what we can do is give the control to a younger generation whose views are more upto date on where America stands today.

Obama has clearly identified himself as a leader who can articulate his thoughts very well, as well as a person with good judgement. Hillary on the other hand still comes out as someone who is looking to bask in the other persons failure than in her own success or capabilities. She will not be in a position to contribute to the type of changes we need in this country. She has not depicted sound judgements. Will you trust a person who failed to raise enough money and overspent her campaign finances and was forced to dip into her savings for $5 million? Do you want that person to correct the problems with our economy? I ain't trusting Hillary with my tax dollars. She has more money problems to solve herself, let alone the problems of this country. We know that Obama had to persuade her again and again to release her white house papers. Now that the Clinton's say they have relesed it, the credit goes to Obama for his persistence in asking her to release those papers. Without his persistence and tenacity, those papers would never have seen the light.

Posted by: Joan Witherspoon | March 19, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I am a racist. But I am a selective racist. Given the choice of Condi Rice, or Colin Powell to become President of Our Great Nation, even more important our Commander-in-Chief in an era of profoundly, tenuous prospects of effectively defending ourselves from Islamofascism,and the untold plethora of nuclear weapons in Russian hands, or Iran's undeniable statements of righteous jihad,duh,I'd proudly and confidently pull the lever in a New York second, as would so many of my white rascist family members, for either one of these unmistakably proven, a patriotic son and daughter of our Nation. We shouldn't be talking about whether Barrack, Clinton or McCain can lead us to jobs, or some health plan boondoggle, or whatever else they are going to promise "to work towards", but who is going to make the ultimate decision in our Country's defense.
If the Islamofascists do in fact start setting off dirty bombs in our cities, whether you got health coverage, a $15 per hour job with benies, or you want to others to somehow feel and appreciate your pain that you are somehow disenfranchised because of your culture and race, we will all take a back seat, the farthest seat in the back of the bus, as this nation starts resembling Baghdad or Karbala.
I'm not wild about McCain. I wouldn't want him as a brother-in-law. But I will have no concern whatsoever in voting for McCain to be our leader and protector. He has a proven record of patriotic service to our country-look it up yourself!
I advise everyone who is going to vote to carefully analyze the characters, the track records, the statements of these 3 potential candidates. It's that important. Has everyone forgot those tumbling buildings, the panic stricken fleers in Lower Manhattan, the damage to our Pentagon on 9/11. Neither Barrack or Clinton have any scintilla of experience or backbone to lead us through the next decade or two until we dismantle the Islamofascist forces of evil.

Posted by: A Racist Prophet | March 19, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Dri: You are missing the point. This is not a case of a few racist, hateful and anti-American statements (although that alone would sink Hillary Clinton if her 20-year "mentor and spiritual adviser" had said them). Wright teaches black liberation theology. That's what his followers hear on a regular basis.

The underlying issue here is Wright's following of James Cone's Afrocentric Black Liberation theology. Either God must do what we want him to do, or we must reject him, Cone maintains as follows:

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Wright has been explicit in accepting Cone; its hard to see that Obama, being as bright as he is, does not at least know about this stance, which is clearly at the core of the Trinity Church. In being a member of this church Obama aided his South Side Chicago political career but seriously jeopardized a presidential run.

P.S. Dri: Do you subscribe to these beliefs? Do you believe that God is a racist who must side with blacks? Well, Rev. Wright does; and unless Obama attended a church for 20 years wherein he did not believe the fundamental tenants of that church, Obama does, too. Does that matter to you at all?

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

As an undecided voter, I appreciate Senator Obama's candor on the issue of racial unity in America and his vision to bring the country together. But I do have one question: How will Senator Obama bridge the racial divide around the country when he hasn't been able to do so with two people so very close to him -- his maternal grandmother and his pastor?

Posted by: JTH | March 19, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Who is Obama supposed to be racist against?

His white mother, or his black father?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I love how people throw around the phrase "anti-American"...disagreeing with your county's handling of issues of race, class, and world relations is the most American thing you can do. It is your obligation as an American to speak out if you think you can improve your nation. Anger is not a naughty word; people have to be angry in order to act.

So, moral of the story, even if it sounds crazy to assert that the U.S. created AIDS to wipe out African Americans (which it does) the statement is not "anti-American"...it is a paranoid delusion that does nothing to propel race relations forward BUT it is also a product of his experience with very real institutional racism.

Posted by: Shanno | March 19, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

More than Obama's speech on racism I was more interested in seeing how Hillary will respond to what was said. Hillary's response of 'I haven't heard it yet' says a lot about who she is. Obama's speech was announced well in advance, the media was looking forward to it. If Hillary says she missed it, it is not the truth. If she did not have time to listen to an opponent give a speech on race relations, she is not going to have time to listen to the American people complaining about race issues. Her campaign has from the beginning tried to use surrogates to surface racial tensions in the campaign. When they couldn't bring it directly on Obama they went after his associates. Hillary and Bill now find that the very card they used to hold high, that is support for the blacks is held higher by Obama. This they don't like. All they want to do is to bring down Obama since he trumps the Clintons in race relations.

I am from Philadelphia and I know a lot of my friends will vote for Hillary just based on skin color. But a lot of my friends will vote for Obama for the clear vision he has projected for reconciling divisions that exist in our society and for eradicating the fears people have of other people just because of their skin colors.

As people age, they find it harder to associate with people they did not associate with when they were young. Hillary, Bill, and their surrogates all fall within an age group who find it hard to understand that their fears are based on their past associations. We can correct them. But what we can do is give the control to a younger generation whose views are more upto date on where America stands today.

Obama has clearly identified himself as a leader who can articulate his thoughts very well, as well as a person with good judgement. Hillary on the other hand still comes out as someone who is looking to bask in the other persons failure than in her own success or capabilities. She will not be in a position to contribute to the type of changes we need in this country. She has not depicted sound judgements. Will you trust a person who failed to raise enough money and overspent her campaign finances and was forced to dip into her savings for $5 million? Do you want that person to correct the problems with our economy? I ain't trusting Hillary with my tax dollars. She has more money problems to solve herself, let alone the problems of this country. We know that Obama had to persuade her again and again to release her white house papers. Now that the Clinton's say they have relesed it, the credit goes to Obama for his persistence in asking her to release those papers. Without his persistence and tenacity, those papers would never have seen the light.

Posted by: Joan Witherspoon | March 19, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

People are subject to their own opinions and that no one can change, but themselfs. However we should remember that we are the end product of the way we think, be it good or bad... As a nation in the 21st century we can allow our racist and hateful past continue to dominate our thinking, but we should remember that we will pay the price in the future, knowing that this nation is a land of immigrants, people from all race and faiths and very soon for the first time hispanics, blacks and other minority groups will constitute over 50% of our population and with time become a majority.... GOD help us if we do NOT confront this ugly racial sentiments and devide we face as nation.

I will advice all as fellow americans, lets put our racial past behind us, the hate and deep rooted bitterness will not take us far in this 21st century. Lets come together as a NATION of diversity (whites, blacks,hispanics, asians, indians etc)and build bridges, lets roots out divisiveness and rather build a united front and show the world we can OVERCOME, irrespective of our history by "remembering our past, preparing for the future and yet living in the present".

GOD BLESS THIS NATION WE ALL LOVE & CHERISH DEARLY!!!

Posted by: Eben | March 19, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

That speech will be read in books by our children. I predict that, given a few weeks and another spectacular speech on, say, Iraq, public opinion will shift back Obama's way in a couple of weeks.

After all, if he can defuse Rev. Wright's comments, doesn't that help prove that his message of uniting people is more than just empty words?

Posted by: Dan | March 19, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

America sits at the doorstep of the most monumental and profound elections we've ever experienced in the history of our country.

Barack Obama has uniquely spoken on a highly explosive issue he was "forced" into. Ironically, his speech metaphorically represented both races, black and white, but in this country, many racially divisive people still only considered a member of one when viewed through the eyes of prejudice, hate, and misunderstanding.

I say this because in America, the double edged sword is in "classifications" of race as well as the social economical obstacles it presents. Barack is considered moreso a Black American male than a White American male solely by the color of his skin. He is actually neither because he is both. Would it easy some people more if he were "grey"?

Look at Tiger Woods and the racial issue he bought up years ago when he 1st started playing on the PGA tour. Saying he was neither clearly black or asian. He is both. Is anyone not rooting for him to continue his winning streak because he made that statement? How do people feel now vs then? This bitter moment too shall pass, but we must, as a nation, be above the shallow thoughts that bring us to the depths of such petty racial divides.

Let's get a grip here my American people! We all experience things in our lifetimes that we don't necessarily agree upon and don't speak out about. It's inevitable and a fact none of us can ignore or quickly change. There are plenty of times each of us has experienced a racial issue and have kept quite for one reason or another. It does not mean that you agree with the person's opinion 100% who said or acted upon it. We can agree to disagree for all sorts of reason in this life. It's time to stop creating divisions when it is politically or otherwise convenient to do so.

Just stop the hate. Obama has admitted he wants to do so, and I believe him.

I am a black man in America. I love and hate a lot of things I see.

I hate when a black man steals from another black man.

I hate when a black mother uses drugs and neglects her children.

I hated it when a white woman said the "N" word to me in public.

I hated when a white woman at IBM said I couldn't interview for a computer internship job, but I had a nice suit.

I hated seeing our taxpayer money waisted on the Bill Clinton/Monica Lewinski case.

I hated seeing those pictures of people jumping to their deaths in 911.

I hated seeing people suffer for 4 days without government aid during Hurricane Katrina.

I hate the fact that America feels less safe and less desired than it used to be.

I hate American soldiers and innocent civilians dying for an unjust war.

I hate the continued invasion of American civil liberties caused by the current administration.

Yes, I hate things. We all hate things, peoples actions, and bad circumstances and preventable situations. It does not make you racist to be angered with the correct amount of self-control and mutual respect for your fellow man. It makes you human. What makes anyone racist is the lack of respect and understanding it takes to change what seems wrong. Not just skin color.

But for all the things I hate, I love more things about this country than the sunlight itself.

I love seeing the competitive spirit of the current candidates.

I loved Ronald Regan's smile and his sense of international politics.

I loved seeing the heros of 911 and how it unified a "broken country".

I loved seeing the outreach of the American people during Hurricane Katrina Relief efforts.

I love seeing integrated schools where children learn not only by cirriculum, but by the interactions of cultures between the students and teachers.

I love when seeing when elderly citizens are properly cared for by our society and not just dropped off to be mistreated in senior homes.

I love seeing innovations being worked upon to save our planet.

I love companies who seem to care about their employees.

I love the idea of universal health care.

I love our melting pot called America. It's my family. All of you. And even though I can't always agree with everything that some of you say, we still are in this thing together.

Posted by: NoSurprise | March 19, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

To john who said, "A new bar has been set: now that racist and bigoted speach is connected to Obama it no longer has to be totally rejected but instead understood. Untill now he took a very hard line against the words as well as speaker.(Imus, Ferarro). Equating his grandmother with acusing us of genocide - What won't a politician say."

I was actually shocked that Obama compared his grandmother with Rev Wright. For a while, I thought it was only me who noticed that. There is a huge difference between expressing one's opinion in the kitchen and preaching about it. At any rate, I thought that Obama did his grandmother a disservice there. I am sure his grandmother still loves him, but he became a little person in my opinion.

Posted by: CP Cook | March 19, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I really cannot believe some of the posts I am reading on this page. How is it that people can be presented the bold facts and still be blinded, either by race or eloquent words. What does being a good speech giver have to do with being an effective leader?

Aren't honesty, courage, standing up against what's wrong, judging a person by their character and not their color, seeing people as individuals all more important for our leader than the fact that he speaks well.

Obama has lied and been caught - He has been perceived up till now as this Great Unifier above the fray of politics. We now see that he is just another politician who lies to protect his agenda. And a racist one at that. He was caught last month lying about his view on NAFTA. He has lied about hearing racist sermons from his pastor. And now he asks America to look at ourselves. PLEASE! I don't care what color you are or what church you are in today. If you hear racial slurs and bigotry being spewed regularly the least you should do is find another church. The best of us would stand up and say "This is wrong. Stop!" If you stay there for 20 years you are a closet racist at best. YOu certainly don't have the moral fiber or fortitude to be the leader of this great nation.

There have been first hand accounts of people in his church at the same time Obama was there during these hate-filled sermons. These accounts have him nodding in agreement with the words Wright was preaching. How can he be viewed as a lea derwhen on Sunday's he is all about being part of the crowd?

This guy has lost all electability and would only tear this country apart and weaken it. He needs to work on getting past his own bigotry before he leads anyone else.

Pastor Wright is a disgrace as a pastor. How do you preach love and kindness in one breath and then blame the "white man" for all of the ills of the black community? This country will never get to a place of racial equality until we stop seeing color as a way to identify and classify people. I don't think Martin Luther King Jr.'s dream had Pastor Wright or Barack Obama in it.

Posted by: Bill | March 19, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a shinning Prince. We all should respect and honor such integrity.

A lot of the comments made mention of the fact that Obama listened to his pastor for 20 years and never protested. Obviously these people haven't heard many sermons. Most churches in America have Pastor or Officers who say things repeatedly that people may or may not agree with. This is common practice, no one agrees entirely on what their pastor says or does all the time. Thats why God gives you your own mind, so you can formulate your own oppinion. Pastors like everyone else are allowed to have politcal views whether you agree with them or not is up to you. And if you dont agree, it doesn't mean you stop going to church. Obama's pastor is not running for president and what he says or does should not validate Obama's campaign.

Further more Obama is raising the bar in this country. If you cant see that, you need to open your eyes. Nothing about the other candidates represents this change. America needs to change soon or we will continue to seep into 2nd and 3rd place, its a new day.

Posted by: gopro | March 19, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Obama can read a teleprompter probably better than anyone since Ronald Reagan, and whoever wrote the speech did a good job. But, it was only a speech; it did not change the underlying facts. Also, Wright was not merely a friend or family member, he was Obama's "mentor and spiritual advisor" and he was on one of Obama's committees. Look how Obama reacted when Geraldine Ferraro made just one statement which Obama thought was inappropriate -- he hit the ceiling. Look how Obama reacted when Imus made a racially charged statement; he wanted him fired and said that he didn't want his children exposed to such statements. But we're supposed to ignore 20 years of racist and anti-American rants from Obama's adviser because he made a good speech. Why don't we hold Obama to the same level he holds others? I'm sorry, but this double standard is getting rather old.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

You're right Mr. Obama is no JFK. He's faithful to his wife. Canadians like myself are so sick and tired of your 19th century attitudes. You don't live in the best country in the world, we do. Grow up and elect someone from the 21st century. Good luck Mr. Obama.

Posted by: Dave | March 19, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

How stupid are you people?

How about we look into the real issues now.

Like whether Obama's second cousin twice-removed was a white supremacist?!

Or whether he's a direct Male-line decendent of Gengis Kahn!

When you're done looking. Join me trying to figure out how to fix the deficit, get us out of the war, and save the dollar from complet collapse!

Posted by: Brian | March 19, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, grew up in Indonesia and Chicago, and went to college in Cambridge, Mass. His knowledge of slavery comes from the PC history he's read, and those who believe America should be damned. He has little exerience and displays poor judgement.

Posted by: Indianhead | March 19, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It would be funy if it weren't in fact tragic - how on earth can anybody think that Wright was repeating this every Sunday for 20 years straight???

And if such remarks (remarks, mind you, not speeches!) were made - in a context that we were not provided with - once every 5 years, heck - once a year, should they outweigh all the positive that was being preached out of that pulpit the other 98% of the time?

Do you walk away from someone you've known for 20 years because occasionally (rarely) they make statements you vehemently disagree with?

So much hate...it's sad

Posted by: dri | March 19, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

It is absolutely frightening to hear someone rant on in the manner Pastor Wright has, sound bite or not. And I believe racism and reverse racism is endemic in this country, very sad. I appreciate Mr. Obama's calm resolve, and his leadership qualities. No one will know for sure what he has "taken in" from his church experience, really, how well do you know even your best friends? So at some point we will all have to choose based on guess work and what the media feeds us, oh, and high hopes, ugh! I do feel Senator Obama is the best choice, (although I do admit to wondering how anyone could sit for so long and listen to such hate filled expressions, even with an understanding the pastors generation) I do appreciate Mr. Obama's ability to portray a calm, thoughtful resolve in this situation showing he could probably lead this country to a higher level of itself...I cannot come close to saying that about the current administration.

Posted by: MarchOn | March 19, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Please see DemetriusUpchurch's comments above. Before people cast stones, they might want to find out more about the overall mission of Trinity United and the impact it has had on its parishoners (who are mostly mainstream middle-class folks from my understanding). Oprah went to this church for goodness sakes! Are people saying that she is an "Anti-American" radical, too??

Obama has unequivocally denounced Rev. Wright's hateful comments, while saying that we should all embrace the "conservative" values that Rev. Wright taught of accepting personal responsibility for your own situation, regardless of your ethnicity.

He said, "For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past. It means continuing to insist on a full measure of justice in every aspect of American life...And it means taking full responsibility for own lives - by demanding more from our fathers, and spending more time with our children, and reading to them, and teaching them that while they may face challenges and discrimination in their own lives, they must never succumb to despair or cynicism; they must always believe that they can write their own destiny."

Come on folks, even Bill O'Reilly applauded him for that....

Posted by: TXCourtney | March 19, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I am so proud of Obama! Not only was his speech enlightening, it also helped me to examine my own prejudices that I as a black person have against other races. I feel very badly that I have judged others for their differences without knowing or understanding why they are different. This was a great eye opener for me personally.

Thanks Obama!

Posted by: Yvette | March 19, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

To have a debate about a speech is so wonderful after 8 years of a president that could not complete a sentence, let alone a thought, is marvelous. I have not made up my mind on who I support. I am just basking in the wonderfulness of the intelligence that is running. As to Barack's speech. Why is he being called upon to respond for another's words? Any more than Hilary for the words from her champaign worker? Let us keep the focus on who will be the nominee and not what the side cast of characters are saying.

Posted by: DTLAV1234 | March 19, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Martin Luther King Jr. said "Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love", "Let no man pull you low enough to hate him", and "Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars... Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that".

Wright is a bigot full of hatred. Obama shouldn't support a man that only does more harm to his campaign, the peace movement againts raism, and America's demacratic way. Dr. King said "The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy".

Posted by: Funk Demacracy | March 19, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Criticizing Obama is not racism. In fact, by giving Obama a pass is racist. If we really want to equality in this country, let every one stand for himself. I am not a white person, and yet I can see that the media is being easy on Obama, while Clinton is being subjected to a much higher standard.

At any rate, this is blog is about the speech so let's talk about it. The speech evaded the question why Obama chose to listen to Rev Wright's diatribe for 20 years, and then disassociated himself when it became public. Where is the judgment here? What I see is cowardice. Is this the quality of the president that we want... somebody who evades tough questions and don't stand up against their friends? While we cherish our freedom of speech, I question Obama's failure to disassociate with his pastor early on. One can only assume that he subscribes to the same teaching. One cannot deny that Obama's presence in that church and not saying anything only encourage Rev Wright to continue disparaging the rest of society.

A little of topic... however, Obama not speaking up against his pastor for 20 years reminds me of his "present" votes in the Illinois senate. See a pattern here... evading tough questions. In the US Senate, he missed 40% of the votes. Okay you will say that he had been campaigning. But just for comparison, Clinton only missed 29% of the votes! Lastly... since he always likes to talk about the war. He is the chairman on Afghanistan, and yet he has not held any committee hearing. There is a huge disparity between Obama's beautiful speeches and his actions. This says a lot about the kind of person that he is.

Posted by: CP Cook | March 19, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Before one is allowed to post his/her opinions here, it should be a requirement to watch Mr. Obama's speech in its entirety--it is VERY clear that a majority the negative remarks here DID NOT listen to the speech.

Mr. Obama's speech didn't tackle the race issue from one side, but ALL sides--he drew upon his own experience and used it to illustrate the frustrations many Americans face.

Blame wasn't put on one people, but ALL of US!

Mr. Obama had my support before he made this remarkable speech today, and he has it still.

God bless America, and may he bless Mr. Obama too.

Posted by: A very concerned reader | March 19, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I just want to know why is it that everyone keeps stating that for 20 years Obama, sat back and listened, but wasn't the main comments that offended so many was from 2001 to 2003??? 20 years ago the issues were different and 20 years ago the country wasn't the same as it is now. Hispanics weren't an issue, homosexuality wasn't in the forefront as it is now and believe it or not GOD was still allowed in our daily lives!!!! So don't be mad at the man, be mad that we as a country started to leave GOD out of our issues.

Posted by: Dani | March 19, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

The mental bankruptcy on this board is amazing. I wonder why people call you lemmings.

To the "I hate Obama no matter what and I don't want to listen to anything", I'm sorry your limited point of view let's you see such a short distance.

Senator Obama asked us for forgiveness yesterday. That speech was a challenge to ALL OF US act on the true religious manta of forgiving sins. Of the willingness to open ones heart and to gain a better understanding.

Senator Obama has asked each of us a direct question about the complexity of race in this country. It's a tough question to deal with. It seems there is a lot of fear going on with the paid and non paid bloggers alike.

Look into your hearts on this. What are you afraid of?

As Senator Obama eloquently put forth yesterday about Wright, it's easy to form a opinion based on selected sound bites. It's a totally another point of view having an INFORMED opinion based on hearing all of Wright's speeches in THEIR FULL CONTEXT.

Listen to them. What are you afraid of?

Also, the story about his grandmother was featured in one of his books. It's nothing new if you bothered to read his own words in the first place. If you really want to see what's behind the curtain of the Senator, READ HIS BOOKS. It's all in black and white for anyone to see.

Pick one up and read it. Learn something

What are you people TRULY afraid of?

Posted by: Keith | March 19, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama's attempt to make the speech seem balanced rang flat when he said that welfare policies may have worsened the problems of many, but then he advocated more of the same. I'd prefer more new ideas which might have a better chance to bring change. Increasing each person's economic opportunities requires using the profit motive as an incentive to work hard. I wish Obama would make another speech that emphasizes individual responsibility more than our societies collective responsibilies.

Posted by: another white guy | March 19, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

People who have been looking for any excuse they can find to bring dishonor and thus lessen the likelihood that Obama can be elected have found it. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Who really cares what any minister says on his bully pulpit. People are talking about Obama showing bad "judgment" by continuing to go to Wright's church. Who cares. Just because Wright says some stupid things does not mean Obama agrees. He has stated very plainly that he does not. We really need to wake up and focus on the real issues of the day. How can anyone who has good "judgment" think that the way to go for this country is to continue what we are doing now. The state of the union is in very bad shape, and to want to continue the Bush policies by voting for McCain or go back to the Clintons shows worse judgment to me than what church anybody chooses to attend. Lets get real folks.

Posted by: Jeff | March 19, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Mali, you put Obama on the same level as Hitler. You lose credibility when you use cliches about Farrakhan, Hitler, and other ethnic and religious groups. I am sure you have legitimate concerns but your comments are inflammatory, raunchy, and counterproductive.

Your type of toxic rhetoric is one reason why this country cannot move forward.

Ethos, Logos, and Pathos...

Posted by: Gary | March 19, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

the problem for many of you out there is if obama killes him self over this it wouldn't
be enough.because you have in your blood that
rasist nature.when obam became president he will uphold the constitution of america not
the church.that all it matters.for many of you who are not oriented about the issiue you better go learn educate yourself.dr.rise is a
black woman that deter her job? not at all.
please lets think our beloved america and come together forget about resist remark where ever it comes from.at this time obama
is the best candidate for the job.

Posted by: hayward | March 19, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Once again, a vast majority have highlighted their ignorance. First the worst administrator was voted in twice by over 50% of the people and now they cannot even accept the truth when they hear it or read what was said yesterday. I am a black man with a lot of white friends living in Michigan and my friends tell me that their mother would shoot me if i came to their house. I am a financial analyst and not a gangbanger but that does not change my skin color. I have been told that i dress white and that i read too much. Barrack said the truth and people would still deny the truth. I am sure that many of the people on this thread writing hateful stuff have stereotyped black people time and time again. Why cant you understand that the people you should be angry with are those that took you to Iraq. What for? People around the world, not only muslims, cannot stand the US anymore. Little wonder that the dollar is being rejected in India and the Euro spent in Chicago. Please enlighten yourselves and STOP living in a bubble that really does not exist. George Bush and his cohorts have set the country back more than your ignorance would allow you to see.

Posted by: Truthbetold | March 19, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Go Barack !

Posted by: PulSamsara | March 19, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

The South Side of Chicago is synonymous with African American -- the same African Americans who came to Chicago in Post-Slavery American looking for freedom but found nothing but injustice. Anyone who is so "offended" by Rev. Wright's comments is, I would argue, afraid of black empowerment.

Posted by: douglas | March 19, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

i don't know how this will all end (WILL it ever?). i have read a lot of the posts. i am particularly in agreement about the reference to the 'sound bite society' we are becoming

from my own reference about the controversy. i remember the days of Martin Luther King Jr. which i, though young lived through. He is lauded today as a truly great statesman. BUt he was deriled and ultimately died for his positions. In my own white upbring in an isolated white rural northern state i had to listen to a lot of debasing verbage from my own father about the character of Dr. King. I am hopeful that i grew beyond it. But i likewise remember fearing, as Sen. Obama referred, to pass by black men in fear for my safety more so then even by young white men who would cat call as i passed. I appreciate Sen. Obama's efforts. I worry about their chances of success....

Posted by: teopa | March 19, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

When one worries about Obama being spiritually mentored by Wright for 20 years, one's assuming that Rev. Wright is nothing more than racist and divisive individual! One sermon on youtube, no matter how fiery, shouldn't give anyone the right to assume that he/she knows everything about the man!
Everyone's outraged that Obama hasn't denounced Rev. Wright. Here's my thinking: primo, what was gonna be the reaction if he had? Secundo, please do remember that Obama had to base his judgment on more than a sermon on youtube.

And besides, like Obama said, how many of us attended (and still attend) churches, synagogues ... where the pastor/ rabbi makes controversial comments? Skip that, how many of us have heard them from our parents? All that to mean that despite all, you remain an independently thinking individual. If you want to argue that Obama could (or have) been brainwashed by his mentor, that's just a daring argument, and I suspect all you've to support it, are your own fears and frustration.

Now, we're all coming out and saying that Obama didn't say enough, didn't address the issues, and so forth! Here's my take: everyone expected Obama's speech to solve all the problems! These problems have been around for about a century, and one man's speech, no matter how inspiring and honest it may be, it's far from enough; it's only a beginning! This backlash, seems to reflect the frustration people have about racial tension; but it's only irrational to expect the man who finds himself in the spotlight to address and solve everything in 15 minutes! TRY A DECADE! THERE CAN NEVER BE SUCH A MAN!

I hope this conversation continues!

Thank you!

Posted by: Claude3 | March 19, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Now the two-term election of George Bush makes sense to me. The American public must be the most gullible on the planet. Obama gets busted by the press for a 20 year association with his racist and anti-American "mentor and spiritual advisor", so he reads a well-written speech off of a teleprompter in order to rehabilitate his image. What do some say; they were "inspired." Inspired by what; a speech given to save his skin and finally, after 20 years of listening to this hate speech, pretend that some of it offended him. Where was his indignation BEFORE he was busted by the press? Wake up. The underlying issue here is Wright's following of James Cone's Afrocentric Black Liberation theology. Either God must do what we want him to do, or we must reject him, Cone maintains as follows:

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Wright has been explicit in accepting Cone; its hard to see that Obama, being as bright as he is, and after 20 years of membership, does not at least know about this stance, which is clearly at the core of the Trinity Church. In being a member of this church Obama aided his South Side Chicago political career but seriously jeopardized a presidential run. If Hillary Clinton had attended the mirror image of Trinity Church, an anti-black one with a minister who followed David Duke's view, she would have been long ago been properly made toast by the media and people. Hillary might argue that she was highly critical of her pastor, which would have gone over like a lead balloon with the public.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS DECEITFUL, CONNIVING AND OPPORTUNISTS. HE TRIES TO JUSTIY RACE BUT FAILS TO ADDRESS THE HATRED THAT IS SPEWING FROM HIS PASTOR, WRIGHT. OBAMA'S CHURCH IS NOTHING BETTER THAN THE MADRASSAS IN FUNDAMENTALIST COUNTRIES. INSTEAD OF REPUDIATING HE CODDLES DIVISIVE AND CORRUPT CHARACTERS LIKE PASTOR WRIGHT AND SLUMLORD REZKO. HE PREACHES CHANGE AND TRANSPARENCY BUT EMBRACES CORRUPTION IN ILLINOIS. IT IS DISGRACEFUL TO ASSOCIATE HIM TO JFK, MLK OR ANY OTHER US LEADERS

Posted by: Tracy Doug | March 19, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

It is both encouraging and distressing to read the comments of our fellow americans. Enouraging that there is so much passion and that we live in a country of free thought and speech, distressing to see that so many are engulfed in partisan, racial or self insterests.

How does our country learn from past mistakes and grow to become the future of our children if we can not move beyond self centered hype.

As an college educated african american male I clearly understand that Obama has gained national focus in part at least because of his race, but on a higher level, because despite his race he is able to reach other americans on a higher level - one that aspires to (not there yet) a hopeful people doing great things in support of a greater calling.
Rev Wright's remarks were stupid - and childish - I question his faith and maturity as a leader if he needs to vent his anger in such a manner while holding a position of leadership in God's church.

Obama has not accomplised great political victories - but what contemporary political leader should he be emulating in that regard? The lists of political sponsorships and partisan promotions from the usual list of suspects is more of the same - like rotating bald tires to get better traction.

There are some who are clearly excited b the prospect of a leader who possesses vision, passion, intelligence, self awareness and for the first time a multicultural and multinational perspective, the melting pot nation could use a broadened perspective on the increasingly connected global landscape.

We may not as a country be ready to engage in mature dialogue around the challenges within our boarders (which are our greatest threat) all of the great dynasties have crumbled from withing - attacks from our enemys and externally make us stronger and pull us together as AMERICANS. The mundane issues of healthcare, education, race, justice, housing and the economy are the stuff of that cause us to fight each other out of a distorted view that capitalism requires many to suffer so that few can prosper.

The fact that thousands are posting and blogging on these issues is a hopeful sign that we are concerned about our future and about making a change in the path that we are currently following.

If Obama has the ablity to influence our dialogue and lead us into real discussions about collective challenges we must carefully consider the alternative of choosing more of the same which appears to be our option.

Obama's approach to the Wright stain is encouraging - he accepted the negative impact of his pastors views, but we don't know if we can accept that 20yrs elapsed without him having a greater sense of the Wrights views.

History will judge us all on how we move forward from this moment in time. We can expect more of the same from the same 'types' of leaders - shots across the bow and soundbites or we can chose honest dialogue and review of the issues including the errors and missteps that will come along the way. For those waiting for the "perfect" leader - it's going to be a LONG wait.

Posted by: knigel | March 19, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

This has to be the most overblown story i've ever seen in my life.


It was a great speech. He told it like it is. He didn't blame whites for Black's problems, but explained the roots of modern black racim, and, for that matter, the roots of modern white racism in this country.

I seriously doubt he spent 20 years listening to Reverend Wright spew hateful remarks about america. Call me crazy, but I'm willing to bet the vast majority of what this christian pastor talked about was... uh... Christ? Obama acrually explained it pretty well. Wright has his outbursts, his flaws, but he has his virtues as well.
Do you need to disown every flawed friend you have to be president? Come on.

And I'm a freaking Ron Paul supporter!!

Posted by: Brian | March 19, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

The speech proves to me that Obama is a great man. He is great because he is real. He is also great because he is big: He has big intelligence and a bigger heart. If he does not become the President of the United States this time around, he will for sure go down in history as a man of great influence, a man who shed light for this culture for a brief moment, and a man planted seeds for deep changes in the years to come so this country can continue to move forward as the greatest nation in the world.

Unfortunately his greatness is also his fatal flaw in this election: Far too many may not be ready for him, or will ever be. Historically great men and women were never embrased by his/her time and place. Go ahead America, choose somebody smaller because that's all you can comprehend.

Posted by: Rene9538 | March 19, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Apparently, addressing race and bigotry is way overdue.

Some of your short-sighted, unthinking, and preposterous comments show me why this speech had to be made. They also show me why these issues are still around.

Posted by: Dani | March 19, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Fact is that whites have moved on and are not particularly racist at this point. In the 60's and earlier, the country was at various times anti-black, anti-jewish, anti-Irish, anti-chinese etc., and times change, equal rights movements change things. Minorities in all cultures face some issues, but it's also up to the black community to get their acts together and use the many opportunities available.

Unfortunately the worst perpetrators of the 'can't do' mentality are the groups themselves who congregate in minority churches, mosques, etc. and collectively moan about how downtrodden they are, how everyone is plotting against them. What's needed is a healthy dose of perspective by someone who can point to the opportunities, not perpetrate outdated anger. But anger is always easier and gets you followers faster than creating change.

Obama comes from this background which is worrisome. He needs to be a doer, not yet in evidence in his background.

Posted by: Robi | March 19, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS DECEITFUL, CONNIVING AND OPPORTUNISTS. HE TRIES TO JUSTIY RACE BUT FAILS TO ADDRESS THE HATRED THAT IS SPEWING FROM HIS PASTOR, WRIGHT. OBAMA'S CHURCH IS NOTHING BETTER THAN THE MADRASSAS IN FUNDAMENTALIST COUNTRIES. INSTEAD OF REPUDIATING HE CODDLES DIVISIVE AND CORRUPT CHARACTERS LIKE PASTOR WRIGHT AND SLUMLORD REZKO. HE PREACHES CHANGE AND TRANSPARENCY BUT EMBRACES CORRUPTION IN ILLINOIS. IT IS DISGRACEFUL TO ASSOCIATE HIM TO JFK, MLK OR ANY OTHER US LEADERS

Posted by: Tracy Doug | March 19, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

>Can you believe Hillary delivering such a speech?

Hillary is color blind. Her agenda and message is role based. What you can't change (color of your skin) is not important, what you can change (your role in the work force, your role at home, your kids welfare, your role as a citizen etc) is what she want to help.

We all moved beyond race ages ago. Not sure why Obama still wants to drag us back to it. Playing the victim card is not going to get America anywhere in today's worl economy.

Posted by: Nick E. | March 19, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I heard his speech and I am not impressed. But some Obama's fans praised his speech (actually preach just like his pastor) incessantly, and so over the top, almost making me barf. Obama can fool some of the people some of time, but he can't fool all the people all the time.

Posted by: MandM | March 19, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Wake up people, racism will be alive and well until the end of this earth. You sit around thinking we are all the same, feel the same, look the same, and want the same things. You people who think that we all equally share the same thoughts and dreams are lost in your own dreams. Blacks are black, whites are white and there will always be a divide. The best why to get beyond this divide is to realize it exists and deal with it.

Posted by: Paul | March 19, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Obama was right, we can not get anything done unless we all work together.
It is apparent by these post that will never happen.
Everything Obama said was true and spoken from his heart. Some of you act as though you are without sin that you have never made mistakes. His preacher made a mistake. he's ignorant. Does the Lord tell us to turn our back on our brothers when they make mistakes or to forgive them.
What gives us the right to condemn Obama for something his preacher said?
What's next his dentist? Or postman?
A man only has to answer for his own actions.
This attack on his preacher's sermon is grasping.
People can't find anything bad to say about him so they are trying to discredit him by his associates.
People need to judge people by their "fruits".
Obama has a lifetime resume of community service.
That is a true Christian in my book....

Posted by: LISA | March 19, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

anyone who thinks that obama should not be president, well read my name.....

Posted by: illkillyou4fun | March 19, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Yes, Obama has nice speech writers. It was a pretty speech and said all the right things.

I've noticed that all of the comments that are "in favor" of Obamas speech, or are in favor of Obama, are resoundly cheered.

I've also noticed that anyone who didn't like the speech, or is against Obama, is "a bigoted racist". Interesting.

I grew up in the 60's. The feeling then was strong that the issue of "race" would soon be gone. Most "white" people I know and most "black" people I know get along and respect each other. (Actually the colors are pink and brown.)

Eventually the amount of mellinin (spellng?) in a persons body will not matter. 99% of our DNA is exactly the same.

I think we should be looking at the religion issue, not the race issue. I'm too old to get down on my knees three or four times a day to bow to the East and worship a meteorite.

Posted by: ownthnker | March 19, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

A new bar has been set: now that racist and bigoted speach is connected to Obama it no longer has to be totally rejected but instead understood. Untill now he took a very hard line against the words as well as speaker.(Imus, Ferarro). Equating his grandmother with acusing us of genocide - What won't a politician say.

Posted by: john | March 19, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I think what perhaps has been lost on many responding to the speach that Mr. Obama made is that we all make excuses and forgive the people that we love, because we love them. The comparison that Mr. Obama drew between the comments that his grandmother made and the comments that his pastor made is one that many people (myself included) have faced. What he was saying is that he loved his grandmother despite being hurt by what she said. I'm sure the same is true for his pastor's comments. On a personal not I applaud the speach made by Barak Obama and am grateful that someone on a world stage had the courage to speak openly about what millions of Americans face each day which is the refusal to address the ongoing racist tone in America. My hope would be to someday be seen simply as an American rather than an African-American.

Posted by: Grace | March 19, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Mali, I can see where your frustration is coming from, but I do disagree with you on whether or not Obama was "passing the buck". From the speech that I heard, he was confronting and dealing with Dr. Wright in the way that he felt best, but without cutting all ties. Obama admitted that Dr. Wright's comments were hateful, but he also pointed out that in years of sermons, Dr. Wright also preached patience and loving your enemy. The basic problem here is that people are not (no pun intended) black and white. This isn't an either/or situation. Maybe on some occasions Wright is a "demagogic, anti-American pastor," and on many others isn't. This is the human condition, the capacity for extremes within everyone. In the speech, Obama was sticking with a man who is a flawed human being, as we all are. As many people have pointed out, are there any friends or family members who you have disagreed with? Do you disown them and never speak to them?

In addition, I don't think that any association with Farrakhan necessarily proves anything. We are not the people we associate with. I have friends who are Neo-Cons, but I am not a neo-con. I have friends who are communists, but I am not a communist. I have family members who are evangelical Christians, but I am not an Evangelical Christian. I can associate with these people even when I disagree with them on any number of issues. There are bonds of humanity that I and others consider more important than ensuring that the people around me are flawless.

Posted by: bg | March 19, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I was going to vote for Obama, but, I can't vote for a guy who would throw his own grandmother under a bus (regardless of skin color).
Sad, sad, sad, for a man who so willingly condemmed Don Imus for contributing to a society (and I am paraphrasing) that he feared for his daughters to grow up in. Nice to know that Wrights comments were ok for his little girls to hear, even though they were much more imflammatory and deragatory then Imus.
So we all learned something.
1, it must be ok to be a racist as long as you are not caucausian.
2. if you don't like this country, get involved in religion and you can use your bully (sic) pulpit to futher your political ideas.
Oh 3. For the 3.2 BILLION USD we sent to SA every year to help people with AIDS its nice to know the US GOVT is responsible for people not having safe sex.

Posted by: concerned | March 19, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I was going to vote for Obama, but, I can't vote for a guy who would throw his own grandmother under a bus (regardless of skin color).
Sad, sad, sad, for a man who so willingly condemmed Don Imus for contributing to a society (and I am paraphrasing) that he feared for his daughters to grow up in. Nice to know that Wrights comments were ok for his little girls to hear, even though they were much more imflammatory and deragatory then Imus.
So we all learned something.
1, it must be ok to be a racist as long as you are not caucausian.
2. if you don't like this country, get involved in religion and you can use your bully (sic) pulpit to futher your political ideas.
Oh 3. For the 3.2 BILLION USD we sent to SA every year to help people with AIDS its nice to know the US GOVT is responsible for people not having safe sex.

Posted by: concerned | March 19, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

It was a moving, inspirational speech that urges America to move forward. It was also a speech neither McCain Nor Clinton could have delivered. Based on the comments I have seen, it is obvious racism is alive and well in these "United" States. If we cannot overcome our divisions, this country will miss a great opportunity for healing and we and the world will be all the poorer for it.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I was going to vote for Obama, but, I can't vote for a guy who would throw his own grandmother under a bus (regardless of skin color).
Sad, sad, sad, for a man who so willingly condemmed Don Imus for contributing to a society (and I am paraphrasing) that he feared for his daughters to grow up in. Nice to know that Wrights comments were ok for his little girls to hear, even though they were much more imflammatory and deragatory then Imus.
So we all learned something.
1, it must be ok to be a racist as long as you are not caucausian.
2. if you don't like this country, get involved in religion and you can use your bully (sic) pulpit to futher your political ideas.
Oh 3. For the 3.2 BILLION USD we sent to SA every year to help people with AIDS its nice to know the US GOVT is responsible for people not having safe sex.

Posted by: concerned | March 19, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

First of all, Obama made the speech because he had to, not because he wanted to. He knew Wrights comments about his hate for America would echo into his own beliefs about America. The speech was not that great, in fact Obama's speech was more of an insult to American's than anything. Obama not only did not say he disagreed with Wright, but by reiterating Wrights own sermon speech, simply showed Obama himself to be a hypocrite and not loyal to America. He talked a lot about how America should end racism, yet he and his pastor aren't doing a very good job at that themselves. I'm sure everyone has heard of "Practice what you preach", yet in their case it should be "Preach what you so called practice..."

Posted by: Johnson | March 19, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Several on here bring out that no one else has talked about race. Actually three peole in high profile positions have spoken about race, and lost their positions. Then when it plays best Sen. Obama does. Before he has called or directly allowed to be called racist everyone else who brought it up. But it is OK for him to bring it up because he is the only Black man running for office. Oh wait he's not black, and he's not white. He was "raised" by white women who made him cringe, even though they sacraficed for him. His minister who hasn't sacraficed anything for him, by his own admission, inspires him. So he can't walk away, but he can publicly show open disrespect for his mother and grandmother.
What a buch of morons to listen to this speach and try to equate it with Linclon, Kennedy and King.
I am mixed ratially as well, but you know what if I tried what his privilaged position being raised put him in I'd get charged with a crime.

Posted by: Eb Jeb | March 19, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

By Ricardo Rose
3.15.2008

A Constitutional Framework for Good

America is populated by multi-ethnic and cultural groups from all parts of the world. We are a global populace base of diverse cultures that has evolved for the last 40,000 years or more. Too often, frivolous discriminations in gender, race and ethnicity subvert the greatness of America. Enduringly, tolerance of one-another is inevitable! Inclusion is the great objective reality!!!

I often meditate on how routinely we publicize to the world . . . that we are the most powerful nation on earth. A super power! A nation governed by the rule of Law! The most advanced democratic-republic in the known civilized world! And yet so often, we undermine the very core principles of our own democracy that we espouse to the world community, as absolute principles for establishing true freedom, liberty and justice for all. Essentially, whenever contradictions and double-standards arise in our policies and treatment of others, it is viewed as insincere and condescending.

It's no wonder that the de-facto leader of the free world (USA) is impetuously diminishing the value of our esteemed credibility, and respect, at home and abroad. What has happened to our vision of America as the land of compassion, of sharing and of equality before the law? This vision was a "to be goal" to be realized by All! The great democratic experience in our "Constitution" was and is unfolding in the hearts, minds, and souls of men, women and children. Overtime, until the fulfillment of this magnificent vision became realized in an unjust society, the challenge of who would speak for the voiceless still remained? Who would defend the defenseless still remained? Who would speak to the powerful, and yet, possess not power themselves still remained? Well, throughout time, among all people, named and nameless voices did arise to fulfill the need, and they were not of the favored!! And until this very day, they are not the favored!

Bear in mind, a very short time ago, African Americans were slaves and could not vote. It is fair to say that people who were not slaves, did benefit from a sub-human-free labor slave system. And until this very day, a great many of them effortlessly contend that even though slavery was wrong, and inhumane, they felt that shattle slavery was good as compared to elitist governments and their treatment of slaved Africans around the world. And yet, if divine providence were to reverse the roles of the slave and the slave master, surely, a greater sense of justice and fairness would unequivocally give voice and wings to the subjugated!

Generations of freed men and women, during and subsequent to slavery never truly understood the voices and sentiments of slaves and ex-slaves and their ancestors, as they deemed the evils of shattel slavery was so inhumane and generational horrific, that it shall never be repeated in any form, no-where on God's good earth or the universe. To have been a victim of shattel slavery for whatever the cause, is universally evil, and unjust to the entire planet and the universe.

Therefore, any inhumane system conceived, organized or supported by men/women of nations shall objectively aim for higher goals of raising humanity's condition to a most excellent state of existence, and to eradicate world hunger, disease, slavery, intolerance, hatred, greed, divisiveness, corruption and ignorance.
Let's reflect on an unpretentious but very important fact, and that fact is, the world is observing our behavior of-one-another all the time, as we are observing them all the time! You can verily measure how civil and just a people are by the treatment that they tender to their own! Nationwide, the prison population grew by 25,000 last year, bringing it to almost 1.6 million, after three decades of growth that has seen the prison population nearly triple. Another 723,000 people are in local jails. One in 36 adult Hispanic men is behind bars, based on Justice Department figures for 2006. One in 15 adult black men is, too, as is one in nine black men ages 20 to 34.

If there is any one sentence that made America great--as a nation, it is a line from the Preamble to the Constitution of the United States that reads:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The body of the Constitution sets forth a means by which the various cultures of immigrants could be preserved to meld into a uniquely American culture...one that stubbornly refuses to give precedence to any religion, literature, music, art or social institution from any country of origin of the People of the United States. I read the Constitution of the United States with great pride; the Bill of Rights and the various Amendments to it since 1789 make it a world class document.

It is the Constitution of America which protects and encourages the flowering of individual and groups of people out of whom come the real greatness of America; its rich, enlivening and enjoining music, art, science, drama, cinema, literature, comedy, religion and playtime activities.
That being said, exactly, what makes America Great, and what is the role the USA plays at home and on the world stage? How can we extend a greater understanding as to who we are and what we stand for?

Well, let's reflect on at least one present day dilemma that potentially can be worst, or better; there are 1.5 Billion Muslims in the world. Of which, the overwhelming majority are peaceful and civil. And yes, they are not at war with the USA!! And yet, the media consistently demonizes, well over "1 Billion muslims"!! What ever happened to treating others, as we would have them treat us?? This type of anti-social behavior is very unproductive to international and world relations with diverse cultures, some of which are American citizens.

The question about Senator Obama has been is he a Muslim, yes or no? He's not a muslim, however, what if senator Obama or senator Clinton or senator McCain were, what's the problem? In the make believe world of Hollywood, writers and producers create good and bad guys by the dozens everyday. Good guys and bad guy themes help drive the emotions of the consumer, and the movie industry makes a lot of money. So does the media!! At what expense to American citizen's? Muslims are not an evil to America! Evil is evil, and hurts us all!

The Constitution in clear written language establishes the facts that, stubbornly refuses to give precedence to any religion, literature, music, art or social institution from any country of origin of the People of the United States. The Constitution of America provides that only age and citizenship shall be a test for public office; not wealth, not gender, not race nor yet not ethnic origin.

The Constitution of America protects Americans from the power and purpose of government officials. And yet, politicians, the mass media, the religious community and individuals exploit and abuse these principles of accord. Hopefully, with such potential greatness from free thinking just and balanced minds, we should all affirm our allegiance to the Constitution of the USA and not to our own demise!

Senator Barack Obama taught Constitutional Law, and verily, it is a part of his being. We all have very good reason for electing this highly qualified leader to preside as President of the United States. Consider the fact that he will be leading with the strength and insight of our Constitution. This perfect document is waiting for the right leader to be guided by its principles. Finally these invaluable principles can help create a perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity. This country will be well served with Senator Obama's leadership as a proverbial walking constitution.

Posted by: Ricardo Rose | March 19, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

DNA run a muk!

America, be afraid, very afraid because Edward is out there. He could be your next door neighbor. He could decide to have off spring. Be afraid of comments like this:

You black people really need to face the truth and admit it. You people are the society's waste/garbage- and the least productive group of people on this planet. You always look for the easy way out; easiest way to cash in resources without any kind of investments, physically mentally. You will make racial issues out of anything. You will always stand behind you people regardless of right or wrong as long as you are Black. You people were the ones who initiated the slave-trades with the foreigners prior to 13th century, you people were the ones who sold your own people- and who should had been blamed for that?? Face the truths, get over it and get really!

Posted by: Edward | March 19, 2008 11:37 AM

Posted by: shellon | March 19, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Remember Jesus disciples stayed with him for three years, almost every day. Jesus spoke some very hard words against the leadership establishment of the day. He called them vipers, hypocrite, he indicated you have to hate your family to follow him (in the context of his message we understand what he meant).

Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: 26 "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters-- yes, even his own life-- he cannot be my disciple. (Luke 14:25-33)

Just think of what your reaction would be if you took Jesus word of 'Hate' out of context from his message? Would you want to follow his teaching or go so far to disown him? Actually many did regardless of all the good things he had done in various communities - He was crucified.

One can claim to be a Christian of the religious establishment (like the Pharisees of the Jesus' day) or be a Christian of Jesus teaching whose core foundation is forgiveness, even though Jesus used some really hard words in his sermons that many people did not like and at times made look un-patriotic.

Posted by: Rick -Toronto | March 19, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

My name is PAtty Sale: where is the comment that I submited, there is no posting of mine here

Posted by: patty sale | March 19, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Mark makes our point for us: he heard people in his church make racist comments and he "sought spiritual guidance elsewhere." Mark has more business being president than Barack.

Posted by: Laughing At Mark | March 19, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

At best, the Obama's are guilty of cowardice. To sit in that church for twenty years, listening to racist, sexist and treasonous commentary by the "authority" on moral correctness and say nothing is truly sad. By sitting there providing tacit support for Wright is painful to hear.
Of course the ivy-educated Obama's can discern hyperbole. But what of the thousands of congregants who listened and believed the words heard week in and week out in Rev. Wright's sermons?
What do they imagine the children in those pews will grow up to believe? God Damn America?
Their silence (the Obama's) is the real display of their character.

Posted by: CHarris | March 19, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

The a.m talk radio crowd is ruining this country and this debate. Social conservatism is the equivalent to moral retardation and its monolithic values do NOT have the final say in what is anti-american and what is American. I think Rev. Wright went a little far in 60 seconds or so of his comments, however, it is American to protest and question our Government. Our country was founded by those who believed that as an American society it was important to protest and petition our government in order for our Democracy to work and take into account minority positions and positions opposed to the mainstream of society. I will also add that before you judge Wright on 60 second sound bites, you should listen to his sermon "The Audacity of Hope" it paints a clearer picture of the man so many are condemning based on these small sound bites.
Wrights comments may be controversial but they are not "racist" -- Racism is defined by one group claiming genetic superiority over another. At no time does Wright say that White Americans are inferior to African Americans geneticly.
The Rush/ Hannity/ Ingram tactics of discrediting and smearing canidates can be used to discredit anyone running for public office. By eliminating context and only using small sound bites they can draw broad negative conclusions. For example, lets use this approach on John McCain (I don't beleive this) John McCain's mother harbors negative views of Mormons which she spoke out about during an interview of MSNBC during the Republican primary. McCain has not rejected or denouced her. Because his views have been shaped by her, her being his mother, many questions arise of McCain's bigoted attitude towards religion. In 2000 he called some of the most prominate preachers in our country "agents of intolerance". Obviously, this proves that McCain has no tolerance for Religion and without faith how can he lead a country of people who are religious. Becasue he lacks a moral code how can we believe that his close relationship with a female lobbyist wasn't sexual and that he didn't give inapropriate favors to her clients. Therefore, John McCain is a bigot and a liar. There are to many questions regarding his person for him to be president.-----
That is how easy it is to smear someone in public office and to cast doubt. All you have to do is ignore the context.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama's speech is nothing but misleadig innocent youths and Liberal media. He is no MLK, JFK or other great leaders. He is DECEITFUL, OPPORTUNIST AND CONNIVING. Obama's transformational ability rests on surprisingly little evidence. He wants to CHANGE Washington but EMBRACES CORRUPTION IN ILLINOIS. His JUDGEMENT is FLAWED by his ASSOCIATION with the pastor, Wright who preaches HATRED and DIVISIVENESS and Obama could not denounce his teaching for the past 20 years. He subjects his innocent children to this disgusting preaching. WHERE IS HIS JUDGEMENT? He and his wife, Michelle, are influenced by pastor Wright's teaching. It manifests by their words and action. Obama lifting the title of his 2nd book "audacity of Hope" from Wright and and not respecting the American flag. His wife who is not proud of America until her adult life. WHY SHOULD WE NOT CONDEMN OBAMA'S CHURCH WHEN WE CONDEMN THE MADRASSAS IN PAKISTAN AND OTHER FUNDAMENTALIST COUNTRIES that spews hatred toward America?

Posted by: Tracy | March 19, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Apparently Obama feels that it is OK for his children, wife & others to listen to the ugly hatred expressed by Wright.
It seems that this type of sermon is not unusual for certain types of churches? How unfortunate, as those teachings just encourage bad feelings & actions.
Should our "First Family" be part of a group with a Wright-type leader?

Posted by: b t | March 19, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama will go down in history as one of our great visionaries. He is so intellegent that he makes most of us feel inadquate. He is strong mentally and spiritually. His speech on Race had to be inspired by god. I applaude him and know that he is the man for such a time as this. He is truely an inspired man.

Posted by: lo40 | March 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Obama's speech has stupidly given the GOP great ammunition to use against him in commercials. Expect to see commercials with Wright's racist and anti-American comments followed by Obama's endorsement of Wright as being "like an uncle you love and respect."

Don't see how Obama has a chance against McCain now.

Posted by: Richard | March 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Obama will go down in history as one of our great visionaries. He is so intellegent that he makes most of us feel inadquate. He is strong mentally and spiritually. His speech on Race had to be inspired by god. I applaude him and know that he is the man for such a time as this. He is truely an inspired man.

Posted by: lo40 | March 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

As a minister and as a Black man I find the vitriolic words of Obama's pastor reprehensible. GOD's punishment of Moses came not because he destroyed the 10 commandments but with how he spoke to the children of GOD and failed to follow the commandment GOD gave him. It remains necessary to acknowledge the problems and disparity of race. They still exist. In my estimation it is necessary for any pulpit, for every leader regardless of race, to keep in the minds of the people the ills of racism, lest we forget; but heated words that excite bitterness and gall should bring sharp rebuke. Nelson Mandela as the president of the ANC forced direct, non-violent discussions between the White and Black South Africans. This creative approach bought about cathartic release. In reading several comments I saw posted I wish many of those who see Obama's speech as a vindication would show the same intensity for disdain for what the Clinton's continue to dredge up. Their comments whether direct or indirect seed the minds of Americans with fear suggesting that his being Black makes him unfit and myopic to the concerns felt by all Americas. Geraldine Farro never voiced her concerns publically if she had been selected to run as the VP candidate under Mondale because she was a White woman. I'm sure she saw herself as qualified; otherwise vanity would seem to have been her only motivation. I love the spectrum of color because GOD loves it. The only reason I see race as important as it is in this election is because too many can't see the man or the woman, but that their own selfish interest is in jeopardy. White men have held the Oval office since the inception of this great nation and many have, like the current president damaged this nation's integrity in the eyes of the world. It is time for a change, Black or White, but we as a people need to send the message loudly and resolutely we'll no longer accept the status-quo from anyone.

Posted by: Mithrial | March 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Looking at a number of these posts, it is obvious that Senator Obama's speech needs to be repeated.

I did not agree with his denunciation of Rev. Wright, but he did a masterful job at holding the mirror in front of America's face. This "is" a racially and economically divided society where the "majority" of the power players continue to perpetuate and nurture the ideology that sanctioned slavery. It is true that some progress has been made, but there are miles more to go.

Rev. Wright is a preacher of the gospel of Christ. It's a gospel that denounces capitalist exploitation and inequity. America cannot expect to call for God's blessings if she promotes foreign and domestic policies that hurt hundreds of millions of people.

I'm not sure if this is protocol on this site, but if you wish to understand the "Black Christian" tradition that dares to speak truth to power, I invite you to take a look at my YouTube sermon: "God Bless Afghanistan."

http://www.youtube.com/drkeithburton

Posted by: kburton | March 19, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama reminds me of the debacle John Kerry was in the last race. He did a 180 turn from what he said last Thursday on Hannity & Colmes. He said, "I have never heard Mr. Wright say anything like this from the pulpit." Then yesterday he said, "Of course I have heard these things from him in church." So, he lied. That is a fact.

Lets get to the core of what we as voting Americans should consider. Do we want a president that has shown to buckle under the slightest pressure? Should we vote for someone that gives speeches about change, but doesn't tell us what the change is going to be?

As a life long Democrat, I don't like this guy. Yesterday, he proved that I can not trust him. We live in a very unstable world. It makes no sense to add to the instability. The situation is so dynamic that we need balance and we need someone that is closer to the middle of both parties versus someone that is so far left they are turning right.

Wake up people! Get involved and take nothing at face value. Especially, when it comes to voting for our next President.

Posted by: NoSoup4U | March 19, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Pendulum has swung too far other way, it has.
Make excuses for his every fault, people will.
Okay for tax-exempt black churches to spew this hatred, it is.

Posted by: Yoda | March 19, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I've lost track of how many times I've heard hateful or racist comments while attending my nearly 100% white southern evangelical church. Not only from the pulpit, but from those in attendance too. My conscience finally drove me to look elsewhere for spiritual guidance. Honestly, I think it's pathetic that we are freaking out over what a black minister has said on a few occasions, when most of his points are actually historically correct, and yet we turn a blind eye to the bigotry of own churches. After listening to Obama's speech, I have to conclude that he has hit the nail on the head.

Posted by: Mark | March 19, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I think Obama is another liberal like ted kenedy.
He is laying and just want to move on.
He is laying about his pastor and e do not like him. He just want to get our votes.

Posted by: alex | March 19, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Maybe because its on some clips that I haven't seen, but none of the clips I've seen of Obama's pastor has him saying anything racist. He rails about US policy and says god**** (from a pastor!? whoa!), but never says anything disparaging against white people. One can perhaps infer some of his anger comes from racial tension, since he is a product of tumultuous times, but to say he has been saying anti-white things is a huge exageration. Criticizing someone while not being intellectually honest yourself lessens the debate, and oneself!

Posted by: Ben | March 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm all for the idea that Obama can give speeches much like Martin Luther King, Jr., and I think that is great. To deny that Obama can't inspire people is just wrong, because he can. And if he were a civil rights leader, or a religious leader, that would be enough. But he wants to be president, and I think his skills are currently limited to oratorical. I honestly believe that Obama could woo America into letting him become president, but I afraid the morning after we will feel hung over and taken advantage of.

Posted by: Chris | March 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I'm all for the idea that Obama can give speeches much like Martin Luther King, Jr., and I think that is great. To deny that Obama can't inspire people is just wrong, because he can. And if he were a civil rights leader, or a religious leader, that would be enough. But he wants to be president, and I think his skills are currently limited to oratorical. I honestly believe that Obama could woo America into letting him become president, but I afraid the morning after we will feel hung over and taken advantage of.

Posted by: Chris | March 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Dari:

Wow! What a coincidence! You and I had the exact same thought and posted same thing simultaneously. I feel much less depressed having read your note. Thank you!

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Obama is no racist. Can you say the same for yourself?

Posted by: american146 | March 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

You have to admitt, the Americans have always treated people right. Since the beginning we treated the Indians with silver spoons. We took their land, killed them and put them on revervations. Then we imported the blacks and treated them the same. A lot of blacks are still treated this way by the "white man". America prejudiced? You better believe it. It might be a minority of "whites" that believe the blacks are inferior. Just go and talk to people and you will find out about this. And, do you want to know who a majority of these people are? The "so called" Christians who attend Church every chance they can. The Church can spread also spread hatred. Just listen to them during an election year. Over history the Church has been responsible for more wars and conflicts. The people are sheep and follow their leader. I would like to say it is more like the "rats" in the Pied Piper listening to the music. But that is another topic.

Who was the first to use the Atomic Bomb? Who always impose restrictions? The U.S. leads the way. America wake up. Who tells us we can't visit or trade with Cuba? Duh! What about Chevez? He won't give American interest (corporations that donate the most) the finest ocean front land...what happens? He and Fidel gets the boot. It is the ole Pay Up or suffer America's rath. I guess I could go on and on. Better stop for now.

Posted by: louisvillelip | March 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like from the posts on this board that many are not quite ready to evolve their thinking - is it fear? is it defensiveness? or is it just plain ol' fashioned ignorance. I am embarrased to be an American by some of these comments and I hope the world doesn't see them. Keep the faith Obama. There are many of us who see what's possible as well.

Posted by: SMS | March 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm sitting here reading all the comments on Media Darling, Barack Obama's "INSPIRING" speech and all of his loyal followers/groupies. To tell you the truth, I couldn't give a rat's butt for anything the man has said or anything that he might have to say. He, like so many other politicians, has been exposed and now he is doing damage control to cleanse his image in the American eyes. Sure there are white racists, but there are just as many racists in other ethnicities . So I don't buy his BS or the fact that he is repudiating Wright's diatribe. You're telling me that in all of his 20 year attendance, or as he put it, irregular 20 year attendance he didn't have a glimmer of Wright's mindset or politics. Only those gullible enough to put this man on a pedestal and say he is great are totally warped. This man is on the same level as Captain Kangaroo, Space Ghost and the Teletubbies. All image and no substance. Please elect a fully qualified individual and not a fluff-n-stuff.

Posted by: Stratus99 | March 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I'm not voting. None are worth the effort

Posted by: Gerald | March 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I am mystified by those who suggest this speech is opening subjects not previously discussed. I know there is an evangelical aspect to Obama's candidacy, but being born again doesn't mean losing your memory. Haven't thoughtful people been aware of and pondering these issues for many years? How naive can these writers be? Certainly any thoughtful consideration of Gerry Ferraro's ill-judged comment would have had to think about its content and not see it only as racist... Moreover, the really honest response to the current furor would recognize that although Clinton and Ferraro have never been called by the N word, they (like many uppity broads) have heard the C and B words all too often.

Posted by: JoJo | March 19, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

40 years ago an avowed segregationist and racist, George Wallace, ran for President and captured almost enough electoral votes to throw the election into the House of Representatives. At that same time, the Republican party warmly embraced Strom Thurmond, a man who ran a racist and openly segregationist campaign for President in 1948 . Today, we have a black man and white woman as one of the two nominees from a major political party. This is a sea change that, unfortunately has not been talked about with any intelligence or nuance yet in this campaign. Well yesterday, Barack Obama began that conversation with a moving, intelligent and honest speech on race.

I am appalled at those who say Obama must "denounce" any one of his supporters or mentors because of their speech. Why is no one calling on John McCain to "denounce" the Reverend Hagee for his monstrous depictions of Roman Catholicism? Why is no one asking John McCain to denounce the racist legacy of Strom Thurmond and the entire "Southern Strategy" embraced by Nixon and the GOP in 1968? The point that Obama was trying to make that we can live in the past, nursing those grievances and trying to total up our moral scoreboard so that "we" are still ahead. Or, you can start a conversation and try to understand the reason for someone's grievance, black, white or hispanic, and work to solve it. I choose to move forward towards a solution, I don't need to fight the same battle another time. If life is a zero sum game, what's the point?

Posted by: griffin1108 | March 19, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

black racism is about as threatening to white america as a canadian military invasion. why are you all crying like you're so victimized? is the black kkk going to kick down your door in the middle of the night and hang you and your family from a tree? are historically black universities going to reject your children on the basis of their complexion? are you not going to be allowed in the black owned restaraunts, or hired by the massive black owned corporations? technically speaking, their bigotry is a result of years of frustration due to substandard education, living conditions and job opportunities. 200 years of systematic inferiority and servitude have been burned in the psyche of the african american community. they still carry the scars of slavery, which is totally evident within their culture of chemical hair perms, european straight wigs and light-skinned vs. dark-skinned self hatred. this isn't about a blame game to make the "white man" feel guilty you dummies. slavery was a deep slice into the flesh of america. although there was some treatment, the sutures are not ready to come out.

Posted by: are you kidding me?? | March 19, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Want to read something inspiring, that will give a little insight into why Obama followed Rev. Wright to Christ? Read the "Audacity of Hope" sermon from 1990.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/for-the-record.html

Ah, the world is indeed more complex than the screaming idiots damning Obama and Wright would have you believe.

Posted by: abqcleve | March 19, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I am mystified by those who suggest this speech is opening subjects not previously discussed. I know there is an evangelical aspect to Obama's candidacy, but being born again doesn't mean losing your memory. Haven't thoughtful people been aware of and pondering these issues for many years? How naive can these writers be? Certainly any thoughtful consideration of Gerry Ferraro's ill-judged comment would have had to think about its content and not see it only as racist... The really honest response to the current furor would recognize that although Clinton and Ferraro have never been called by the N word, they (like many uppity broads) have heard the C and B words all too often.

Posted by: JoJo | March 19, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

It doesn't matter how great the speech was.

I can't believe a father & a mother will expose their daughters to such an environment on every Sunday. There must be something Obama is not telling us.

Would you trust this couple on your kids? I won't.

Posted by: Mike | March 19, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I see, we're supposed to be happy with an evasive answer that screams the question, what were you doing for 20 years? Are you kidding man, it's the company that you keep, bro. If this is a sign of the way this politician operates, there will be no way to understand his motives. Obama is sealing his own fate with his slick double-talk and elusive half-speak. This guy is passing out the kool-aid by the gallons!

Posted by: Superpower | March 19, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I see, we're supposed to be happy with an evasive answer that screams the question, what were you doing for 20 years? Are you kidding man, it's the company that you keep, bro. If this is a sign of the way this politician operates, there will be no way to understand his motives. Obama is sealing his own fate with his slick double-talk and elusive half-speak. This guy is passing out the kool-aid by the gallons!

Posted by: Superpower | March 19, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

What a depressing world we would have if our color, music, art work, cars, food, etc, were all shaped out of the same mold. We need to rejoice and be glad for our differences and strive for unity AS AMERICANS and not AS HYPHENS. We also must be cognizant of the fact that Obama is a politician, not a miracle worker. Put your faith in a man, and you will ALWAYS be disappointed. Diversity is the strength of America, not the detriment, and we all must contribute to the mutual understanding of others. Be as the wise man who speaks little, and hears all.

Posted by: BatMan3SrCp | March 19, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Obamaniacs are now tying themselves in knots trying to reconcile what Obama IS with what they hoped Obama was. It's funny how people can NOT change their minds on something or someone when confronted with new evidence. It happens every day in every environment (jurors make up their minds and then become blind to evidence to the contrary, etc.)
Contrary to what politicians say, flip-flopping is NOT a bad thing. It's a very wise thing to consider new evidence.
If the church's web site had substituted White for the word Black, any white person attending that church would have been laughed off the national stage. But, the church web site, and Obama's web site, have been "cleaned up."
WAKE UP AMERICA!

Posted by: Legion | March 19, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Hey, all presidential candidates are merely puppets for the people who pay for their campaigns. Stop pretending this isn't a popularity contest, and stop worrying about it so goddamn much. If you are naive enough to believe in the concept of "American Democracy" which isn't actually democracy but a republic, then I'm sure the Electoral College voting system makes sense to you to. Politicians don't care about you, they care about the power you give them, and the money they can garner as a result thereof. The mere supposition that there is a presidential candidate who truly cares for the North American people is ludicrous.

Posted by: reason | March 19, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

You know what I cannot find anywhere in the media, a comment about the 8 American Flags placed behind him. It seems to me that before he was questioned about his patriotism he said that he wouldn't wear the pin. Now we find out he is in front of this racist and anti American minister for 20 years and suddenly 8 flags appear behind Obama.

You cannot attend a church like that and listen to a man like that for 20 years and not believe some of what you hear. You cant say that you are not going to wear an American Flag pin but then when questioned about patriotism have 8 flags behind you. Does no one else see the stunts that this guy is pulling?

Posted by: stephen | March 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

To zenon duda... I totally agree with you. Many think that racism is only against black, where here you see a black person blasting the rest of society. Ferraro is correct... if Obama and Rev Wright were white, Obama would even remove his name from the ballot already.

Posted by: CP Cook | March 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

So anyone who dares to criticize the Great Barak is a racist? Anyone who doesn't like what his advisors or family or politician friends say is a racist and a bigot? Gee, I wonder if he's going to give a speech about Rezko and how we should all strive to embrace fraud and influence peddaling? Let's face it, Obama is done. If the dems are dumb enough to nominate him, he will sink faster than a dukakis in a puddle.

Posted by: NO Obama Please | March 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Although I don't agree with Rev, Wright as a whole or 100%, He did touch on some truths and solid facts that are expressed in just about every Black church, barber shop, home. After hearing Obama speak, it made me relize that he is even stronger then before. His ability to address this issue say's that he is not afraid to find solutions to problem, then cry about them. He has my support more now then in the past.

Posted by: onfyre | March 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

To zenon duda... I totally agree with you. Many think that racism is only against black, where here you see a black person blasting the rest of society. Ferraro is correct... if Obama and Rev Wright were white, Obama would even remove his name from the ballot already.

Posted by: CP Cook | March 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

The self-righteous comments from some readers is astounding. I find it hard to believe that most of us--at some time in our lives--have not sat with aunts, uncles, cousins, friends and yes, pastors, as they espoused a philosopy on race that we found offensive. Yet, we just sat there and listened, without challenge--I'm certainly guilty. What angers me, however,is the notion that we somehow are all supposed to "get over racism"--like it's a disease. I don't think that's possible--we can't erase the indelible stain it has left on American history. Our aim must be to rise above it. Obama's speech did that.

Posted by: angelamontclair@aol.com | March 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

This speech converted me from waffling between which of Obama and Clinton would make a better leader to a full Obama supporter.
In spite of some of the rather venomous comments posted here and elsewhere,
if this man cannot unite the divides in America (which means more than the race issue or providing a more equitable playing field), there may be noone who can.

Posted by: Roger NYC | March 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

In reading many of the different opinions on Senator Obama's incredibly omniscient speech on race in America I am struck by how the same words can be interpreted so differently by so many. Most people seem to have heard what he said and agree with most of it and rightly applaud him for his common sense approach and enlightenment on this race issue. I do not understand how some reach minority conclusions like he is a "racist, he should "apologize" to Sen. Clinton?, ( for what exactly), he is a "liar", etc. It shows that, as he said, there is much to do in this country to change some of these misguided opinions of race. Obama is taking it on and offering healing words, while condemning Rev. Wright's sentiments which are, unfortunately, shared by many whites and blacks in this country to this day. I am a 60 year old white man and a life long unbiased liberal and even I feel guilty of not doing enough to heal the scar of racism. Others should admit it too and help us move on together. Barack Obaba is a special political figure that comes along very seldom, and we would do well to give him our vote so he can lead our country back to what it should be...proud, prosperous, and just.

Posted by: Jack | March 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I heard a good comment on NPR last night. Many of us don't know what black worship is like, we all think that it's like white worship where you sit and listen and make no real outburst of emotions. This is not true for either black or even white religions to a certain extent. Religion is supposed to be emotional to the core ans surely at times outburst like Wright's sermon are bound to happen as deep inside he knows as well as we all know that race is an issue in this county. Anyone that denies this is ignorant and not willing to accept the reality. All of you that look at Rev Wright's sermon and look at him as a devil worshiping America hating demon are in your own right racist. As some have said Write was angry at the system, no one on this forum or in this county can deny that the USA has committed many injustices to humanity in it's history much like Catholics (as I once was one) could deny the Spanish inquisitions. We as a people have to look at the overall picture rather than watching some video clips or listening to a few sound bites and instantly condemning someone as evil and anti American. Dare I say it but it's no different than walking down the street seeing someone of a different race and instantly thinking they are bad because of it. I'm very disappointed in all of you that judge as you do my only hope is that some day you will be judged yourself.

Posted by: AC | March 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Who paid for Sen. Obama's half-hour speech? If his campaign didn't pay for it, then Sen. Clinton should be allowed a half hour to address the nation about misogyny, which is far more prevalent and destructive to women and children than racism, which is clearly not nearly as much of a problem, judging from all the votes from whites that Obama has received.

Let Hillary talk about a woman doing the same job as a man but paid about 70 per cent less. Let her discuss the fact that a woman has no legal jurisdiction over her own body as a man has and the number of rapes, murders and beatings women suffer at the hands of men.

Hillary may not have been called the "N" word as Rev. Wright shouted from the pulpit but she's been called the"B" word and worse. As a candidate who deserves equal time and the only candidate who knows what it's really like to be a girl and woman, Hillary should be given equal time to speak.

Posted by: Betty W. | March 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

As President, when the economy tanks we'll get a great speech from President Obama and it'll make us all feel good. Speeches don't do it for me, deeds do. We are who we are by the company we keep - more so if we include our children. One speech and all is forgiven - they're just words, Obama like you so eloquently say, just words.

Posted by: Rick | March 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I'm disappointed and somewhat disheartened by the number of inaccuracies about all three leading presidential candidates that still find their way into very passionate arguments made online by regular voters.

My belief is that campaigns pick a person to play the scapegoat role, and have them go public with an awful message that is predetermined to result in their removal from the campaign. The candidate can show that they themselves are intolerant of hurtful words by dismissing the staffer - but the words are already out there, and their results can be seen in this and many other online threads.

I don't for a minute believe that high-profile campaign staffers simply "go rogue" and start freelancing their opinions to the press. I believe these are calculated strategic moves by the campaigns, and that select, dedicated staffers offer themselves up to be media kamikazes.

Posted by: John | March 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

This speech was way late in the game. It was a last ditch effort to diffuse a particular crisis. It wasn't a proactive demonstration of how he'll *unite* the people of america, it was a reactive demonstration of what he'll say when push comes to shove. I don't believe him. I don't believe pretty speeches in the absence of action. I don't believe in this candidacy. He's running on the claim that he can unite but as a 30 year member of the Democratic party I have never seen the turmoil and the division that I see today. With Obama's followers raising their fists and cursing those that do not agree, the vision of Obama as president is frightening.

Posted by: Marigold | March 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

As President, when the economy tanks we'll get a great speech from President Obama and it'll make us all feel good. Speeches don't do it for me, deeds do. We are who we are by the company we keep - more so if we include our children. One speech and all is forgiven - they're just words, Obama like you so eloquently say, just words.

Posted by: Rick | March 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I feel this speech on race is the most powerful since, "I have a dream" by Doctor King. I was a little boy then and it has been to long for someone to challenge us all to do better.... not blame old mistakes and recognize that this is completely counter-productive. We need to begin the process of overcoming our racial fears and address our real problems as a nation.

He will be out next President.

Posted by: Pete Monday | March 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I AM NOT A HILARY SUPPORTER BUT COME ON, TO SAY THAT SENATOR OBAMAS SPEECH RIVALS THOSE OF LYNDON JOHNSON, MLK, JFK OR OUR FOUNDING FATHERS IS A STRETCH. YES I AGREE THAT IT WAS A GOOD SPEECH BUT IT DIDN'T ANSWER WHY HE LISTENED TO 20 YEARS OF ANTI AMERICAN, ANTI WHITE HATRIED. THERE WAS NO APOLOGY FOR EXPOSING HIS CHILDREN TO HIS PASTORS VISERAL HATRIED. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY HE DIDN'T DENOUNCE THE MAN HIM SELF OR OTHERS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHO PROFIT FROM HOLDING THEIR BROTHERS DOWN SUCH AS JESSE JACKSON, AL SHARPTON OR LOUIS FARRAKHAN. IF SENATOR OBMABA WANTS TO TALK ABOUT RACE THEN HE SHOULD BE WILLING TO "WALK THE WALK" AS WELL. SADLY THERE IS DISCRIMINATION IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND NO SPEECH OR ONE MAN WILL CHANGE THAT.

BASED ON SENATOR OBAMAS FAILURE TO DENOUNCE AND DIASSOCIATE HIMSELF FROM PASTOR WRIGHT I, AS MANY OTHERS WILL, NOW VOTE FOR JOHN McCAIN.

Posted by: Boo-Hoo | March 19, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

If you're not a black racist, why would attend a church for over 20 years that has a minister that is one?
Really it doesn't matter who the President is this time around....anyone will be better than what we have.
Obama is NO Kennedy and NEVER will be.
I could care less about Obama's skin color.
As Dr. King Jr., said - let's judge people by the content of their character, not the color of their skin. The funny thing is - whenever I confront somone on their character...the race card gets pulled and I get called a racist. There are good and bad of every kind of people....character comes from thinking to yourself - what would i do if I wouldnt get caught?
oh yeah... and as Flava Flav said... don't believe the hype....Obama's voting record is nearly INDENTICAL to Clinton's.

Posted by: Alan G. | March 19, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I am absolutely terrified by the ignorance and lack of vision displayed by the comments posted to this and other stories. The problem in this country isn't corrupt or insincere politicians. The problem is the voters who empower such "leaders" by allowing themselves to be used as tools by disingenuous ad campaigns and catchy sound bites.

The words spoken in Obama's speech yesterday were words that this country needed to hear. It is unfortunate that so many are unwilling (unable?) to listen. Politics in this country, as they exist today, are destroying us. The unmitigated hate people feel towards the opposing party is killing any chance we have of moving forward. And yet our parties encourage this rage through talking points memos and painting all issues as black or white, right or wrong. If we want to change this system and cross the chasms that divide us, such change must begin with ourselves. It must begin with you.

Or we could just continue to spew vitriol as this great country collapses around us.

Posted by: Evan | March 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Obama's speach was excellent. His decision, past and present, to link himself to a person whose public statements are bizarre and outrageous speaks volumes about Obama's flawed judgement.

Posted by: Dirleton | March 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

White or Black, its not right to use God & Damn in the same sentence. if you attend a church that is preaching hate, you are supporting that view by attending it. It appears that Senator Obama is just another politician that had us fooled that he was different

Posted by: Richard | March 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

One thing I notice which is, as if lot of people were waiting to hear something to bad about Obama so they can just dump him. Now after hearing Wright's raunchy commets, these people are telling themselves, " I knew something was wrong with this man". As as ex-Dem supporter, I was ready to vote for whoever was the nominee, Hillary or Obama. After seeing Hillary's dirty tricks, I do not think I can ever vote for a Clinton. I thought dems are watching backs of minorities. I guess that was very knieve of me. Barak Obama;s character has ben turnished. Listn to Foxnews , listen to Hannity, listn to Rush. All on a sudden all lifelong Clinton haters became Clinton lovers and Obama is only half black.

Posted by: Abm Habibullah, Dallas, TX | March 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I just wonder how it would be different if Barack Obama had challenged Rev. Wright. He would no doubt have been made unwelcome by the church congregation, and Rev. Wright would have continued giving the same sermons. And then how would Americans perceive Obama if in his history he had to state that he had been expelled from a Christian church? I can tell you how, because I have seen with my own eyes people forcibly expelled from a church for disagreeing with the pastor, and subsequently shunned in the community and by their supposed friends; and one of my friends lost his job and family for it. Had Obama spoken out then, his candidacy now would have been over before it began.

Posted by: Rick | March 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I wonder what some of these posters would have had Obama done in the past 20 years?
Rev. Wright has dedicated his life to his community, religion, and race. To approuch such a man and tell him that he has it all wrong would take vanity, machismo, and arrogance, none of which are traits I want to see (again) in our President.
Rev. Wright's goal was to inspire, motivate, and unite his community. He may have gone too far in his efforts, but he is a better man for making those mistakes than those who turn a blind eye to the difficult subjects that his constituants face every day.
While I don't see Obama's speech as the equivalent of a Lincoln or Kennedy address, I do think he was right in addressing the race issue head-on (while his critics tip-toe around it) while standing by his mentor. I respect him all the more for doing so.

Posted by: Half | March 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Most of these negative posts are from trolls..they fill the net with negatives..posting at every blog, national newspaper commentary, every cnn,msn poll.....thinking it will turn the election...anger can give one a lot of energy..and it fits their win at any cost mentality..

the speech was brilliant..if you can't see that you have a screw loose.

Posted by: bj johunson | March 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

For those who don't believe that racism still exists in America, witness Edward's hateful comments below. I'm a white person who lived in Detroit for a while and heard this kind of stuff all the time from co-workers and neighbors. It's out there, people! Go Obama.

Posted by: Kalena | March 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Other than his self-serving, absentee position in the Senate, what, exactly, has this character done for our Nation and the world?
? Served honorably in our armed forces...
? Served in the Peace Corps...
? Served in the VISTA program...
? Served as a conscientious objector giving of self to the disadvantaged in our country...

Posted by: Searching for facts | March 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

The words and delivery were a tipping point for grace, integrity and candor. As with any statement, one can disagree with a point here and there, but the overall thrust is a beam of light. We join with Barack.

Posted by: Millington | March 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

This is the first time I've been to the Washington Post site. It's agenda is apparent.
Nasty stuff folks!
If Bush were to give a speech like that, we would all drop dead of a heart attack in disbelief. The clown isn't capable of it.
Obama is closer to the peoples feelings than all the candidates put together.
American media is being questioned and challenged by the masses through the internet. Thank god their ship is sinking.
Dig deeper guys, this stuff isn't working.

If I look in the eyes of any of the candidates, my heart says Obama is real. I can't say the same about Clinton or McCain. Scary people indeed!

Posted by: jc | March 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

You know as I read this commentary, it saddened me that so many did not really get the message that Obama tried to convey. I don't know if it is out of ignnorence or if they refuse to even consider a point of view that they do not agree with. I had hoped that after having someone as devisive as Bush in the White House for so many years, everyone in this country would realized we do well when we come together as a country. We cannot even talk about our true opinions if they are not main stream or politically correct, because we will be referred to as a racist or bigot or sexist. It is always best and mature to stay and resolve issues instead of running away and crying foul when someone says something that you don't agree with. This is probably why the divorce rate in this country is so very high, people aren't willing to stay and resolve differences, instead they love to point fingers at others and act like they are victims.

Posted by: L2639 | March 19, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I sincerely wish That the media and All americans have applied the same Scrutiny to our current president.......How many lives, Trilions of dollars and international prestige,we could have been saved?????????

Posted by: M.Shaalan,MD,Ph.D. | March 19, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

The questions that Obama evaded are:

1. Why did he just disassociate from his pastor's view now, when it was okay for 20 years? (My guess is political expediency.) Where is the courage to confront a friend?

2. Did Obama lie when he said he did not know about Rev Wright's remarks?

Truth is, if one contextualizes the speech, Obama even tried to equate his grandmother's musings with his preacher's diatribe. Mr Obama, please stop making excuses for your own actions. Reprehensible as Rev Wright's actuations, the questions here are your actions. You can remain friends with him, but you did not stand up for the rest of us if you did not believe that Rev Wright was wrong. Of course, you are saying he wrong now when it was politically expedient.

I truly question Obama's judgment, courage and integrity. Here is a candidate who is so full of himself that he cannot even see the huge disconnect between his words and his actions.

Posted by: CP Cook | March 19, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Making wonderful speeches and ACTUALLY seeing some action are two different things. Many have promised but nothing was ever actually done. We need God in our county BIG TIME. Time Americans wake up...and time the big oil people quit being hogish in raising the oil prices and lower the gas prices so our elder Americans won't have to suffer so.

Posted by: smalltown | March 19, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Love all the comments from the supposedly Christian people out there blasting Obama for following his minister. The hypocrisy is astounding. Just because most of the people that attend religious services are mindless sheep that swallow whatever is being fed to them, doesn't mean that certain intelligent people aren't able to pick and choose what they want to follow or believe. I give Obama the benefit of the doubt - he's at least more intelligent than the majority of Americans that voted to re-elect Bush in 2004.

Posted by: Anonymous Coward | March 19, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama is charismatic, yes, but given how heavily he's invoked the word "Change", has he elaborated on exactly the kinds of change he will enact if he's elected? Not really. As a Pennsylvania voter, I was on the fence about whom I would vote for, even going so far as to change my polital party so I could vote in the Democratic primary. Sen. Obama's lukewarm reaction to such a divisive issue solidified my vote for Sen. Clinton.

I'm convinced that the momentum surrounding Sen. Obama's popularity is due in large part to his ability to capitalize on all of the right buzz words ("change", "believe" etc.). But the bottom line is that for all of the change he espouses, his behavior speaks louder than any of his well-prepared speeches. Sen. Obama merely distanced himself from Rev. Wright. How can a man who might be President of this country sit silently for 20 years and patronize this minister who espouses such inflammatory and hate-filled sermons?

Granted, any administration would seem better than the one we have currently; however are we so hungry for change that we'll support a man who has barely 2 years of top tier governmental experience? I respect a politician who is able to keep his moral compass from being sullied by the slime of political corruption; yet I cannot support a man who, from the very beginning, seemed to set his sights on the top job without any intention of learning the ropes. His alignments with Kennedy, et al, seem like awfully opportunistic and well planned career moves. But I have serious doubts that if he does win the top job he'll have the clout and wherewithal to lead a government body that he's had very little past interaction with.

Posted by: JC | March 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The one thing I fail to see is why we need to focus on the race anyway. This proves that he is not ready to lead us as a nation. If he has to address where the black or hispanic community is across the nation, then that is the problem. If ANYONE wants to get ahead, they have the same opportunities as EVERYONE else. America is based on opportunity. Everyone has it, not everyone goes after their goals. Anyone can go to college. Student loans are available. You do not need grants and scholarships. Those are nice and they help, but are not required. I am not black or hispanic, but lived in the same ghetto they complain about. I worked hard to get out of that situation. I paid for my own education, i worked my way up in my career. Why should it be any different becasue of skin tone? My kids are mixed, and they do not understand it either They get good grades and play sports and are focused on what they want to achieve. They are Native American. They lived on the reservation, they know what poor is. Many Natives, from real tribes, not the ones with a person with 1/32 of a dead band of natives, would like to live at at least the ghetto level. But the reservations are placed in remote places. The kids who want out get student loans, they go to major universities, and they improve their lives. And the ironic thing is, that the native population tends to vote republican, not democrat. They are not whining about the poor natives not getting a chance. they live. they do what they need to. Maube the Hispanics who sneak across the border and fail to become citizens should do the same. Maybe the black people should quit worrying about slavery which they were never a part of. You dont hear the Natives, the people who were hear before any of them, white, black or mexican, complaining about the reservations now. They have moved don and so should the rest of the country. Funny how these minorities are looking for Democrat to save them, and they hate the republicans. But the Clintons, and the Obbamas, are all just as wealthy as the republicans. What do they really kow about where you live? Time to get real people. Forget your skin color and focus ont he one color that matters in this country. Green. The color of the dollar. Thats where the power to change is. Anyone dwelling on remarks made is just as ignorant as the person who said it. Get an education and not be a statistic.

Posted by: fedup | March 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

The one thing I fail to see is why we need to focus on the race anyway. This proves that he is not ready to lead us as a nation. If he has to address where the black or hispanic community is across the nation, then that is the problem. If ANYONE wants to get ahead, they have the same opportunities as EVERYONE else. America is based on opportunity. Everyone has it, not everyone goes after their goals. Anyone can go to college. Student loans are available. You do not need grants and scholarships. Those are nice and they help, but are not required. I am not black or hispanic, but lived in the same ghetto they complain about. I worked hard to get out of that situation. I paid for my own education, i worked my way up in my career. Why should it be any different becasue of skin tone? My kids are mixed, and they do not understand it either They get good grades and play sports and are focused on what they want to achieve. They are Native American. They lived on the reservation, they know what poor is. Many Natives, from real tribes, not the ones with a person with 1/32 of a dead band of natives, would like to live at at least the ghetto level. But the reservations are placed in remote places. The kids who want out get student loans, they go to major universities, and they improve their lives. And the ironic thing is, that the native population tends to vote republican, not democrat. They are not whining about the poor natives not getting a chance. they live. they do what they need to. Maube the Hispanics who sneak across the border and fail to become citizens should do the same. Maybe the black people should quit worrying about slavery which they were never a part of. You dont hear the Natives, the people who were hear before any of them, white, black or mexican, complaining about the reservations now. They have moved don and so should the rest of the country. Funny how these minorities are looking for Democrat to save them, and they hate the republicans. But the Clintons, and the Obbamas, are all just as wealthy as the republicans. What do they really kow about where you live? Time to get real people. Forget your skin color and focus ont he one color that matters in this country. Green. The color of the dollar. Thats where the power to change is. Anyone dwelling on remarks made is just as ignorant as the person who said it. Get an education and not be a statistic.

Posted by: fedup | March 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

It's the hypocrisy that is galling. It's okay for Obama to call for Imus's resignation when he makes racist remarks, but when his pastor make racist remarks, he asks him to perform his marriage ceremony.

Posted by: Tony | March 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Comments on comments:
1. I agree with Dari: when I see a comment that begins " I've looked at the body of work of Reverend Wright, read some of his sermons start to finish, and observed the good works of his church, and I still find him a repugnant individual..." I'll start taking the criticism seriously.

2. While mali is entitled to his opinion, he is not entitled to misstate facts. Obama has indeed distanced himself from Farrakhan. Remember "reject and denounce"? He was not photographed in Muslim gard, it was Kenyan. He is not a Muslim. Would a Muslim sat in Wright's church every Sunday for 20 years? You can't have it both ways.

3. As a Jew myself, I will tell you that the people mali quotes speak neither for myself or the bulk of Jews in America. Only a fool or a neo-con (same thing) would assert that Israel is more secure today than it was 8 years ago. The neo-cons have failed. Many Jews support Obama, and believe that Israel would be better off if he were US President.

4. This notion that listening to noxious comments makes the listener noxious has got to stop. I recently watched a video of a speech by Adolf Hitler. It did not make me a Nazi.

5. Lewis Farrakhan has said some vile, hateful, awful lies. He has also at times spoken the truth, and has helped the poor and homeless in the African American community. Can his good works not be acknowledged? To make another analogy, the fact that Ezra Pound was a Nazi does not diminish the beauty of his poetry.

A good speech. I can only hope that the negative comments were from the 30% or so who would never have voted for him anyway.

Posted by: SeamusOK | March 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Negative energy always brings with it a negative result. For those very small thinking angry people who are stuck on the negative words the paster of Obama's church uttered, you're the same kind of people who never see the positive.

I for one would not hesitate to pull a diamond droped in a toilet, clean it, flush the rest and benefit from the value gained.

Posted by: shellon | March 19, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

These words of the black man who touts change and claims to be a uniter of all people? DO NOT VOTE FOR OBAMANATION!

Absolutely. If you vote for Obama, before you know it we'll all be drinking from the same water fountains.

Posted by: wòÓ† | March 19, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Its funny that people get upset with Obama for sitting in the Baptist church for 20 years listening to sermons but yet in still they go to Catholic churches where the priest have been molesting little boys for years.

Posted by: chris | March 19, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

RE: Maria (10:30AM):

"I see the bigots wake early in this country."

LOL! Well said, sister.
I love the fact that Obama's historic speech has stirred a passionate, important debate here. Some of the commentors are long-winded and verbose, many with interesting things to say. But for me, nobody nailed the simpletons and haters to the wall the way this single line did. 'Nuff said!

Posted by: Steve | March 19, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The religious right gets so much heat and so much coverage from the left. It is about time to see the religious left take some heat. So many on both sides use the pulpit for political speeches, but now we can see the left certainly has its share. Maybe we should take another look at tax exempt status.

Posted by: Ken2 | March 19, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Sen. Obama is a man of intergrity and great respect and honesty. He is not giving speeches to win the vote, he is actually telling the truth to American people from his heart. Whether you like him or dislike him, he will let you know exactly what is in his heart. He didn't sugar-coat to win votes, he is leaving it up to American people whether you are black, white, yellow, green or blue to seek deep inside them and figure out what is the real meaning of the word "goodness" and how to overcome darkness and also accept the word forgivness. He reputiaded what his pastor said, and yet accepted him as a human being who gave him some direction in life in some ways.This shows us that he will be a president who will not walk away from people when there will be a problem,instead he will deal with the problem from higher grounds. You have to remember media plays a great deal in this politics, what Rev. PAstor said was only a sound bite, that was played over and over and over again on TV. and that was not what Sen. Obama believes in, eventhough it might sound right to some Americans while not to others...Sen Obama is a brave man and took challenge that he is put through He is actually being tested by white Americans in some ways and they keep testing him because he has some drop of blackness in him..as a white woman and being an outsider(not American)we can see the truth more clearly than I guess some of Americans can see..I wish all Americans peace and prosperity for the future and hope Sen. Obama will overcome all the obstacle he is being put through.

Posted by: Patty Sale | March 19, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Besides the AIDS comment what in Rev. Wright's comments were factually inaccurate or "Anti-American"? Was it pointing out that America hasn't lived up to all of her promises? What is so different about his words and the CIA's idea of "blowback" in foreign policy? Has the United States not been a slaveholding country longer than not? Did we not have institutionalized racism (Jim Crow) until only a Generation ago? (My parents went to segregated school).

These things are true and unpleasant, they aren't "un-American." In fact some of our greatest Americans have criticized this nation in the hopes that it will become better.

On the AIDS comment: This was crazy. However, Wright came of age with an entire generation of blacks who learned early about the government and their health. They learned from the Tuskegee experiment. Look this up on the CDC website if you want. Four forty years government doctors used black men, often service men, as guinea pigs to test the effects of untreated syphilis. Many died and some even claimed they were infected with syphilis. All were not told about their condition and government doctors withheld treatment even after we had viable treatment options. Many died of this and the accompanying complications. If I grew up with this happening to my people I wouldn't trust the government either. Just some prospective.

Posted by: Chaz | March 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Do the people criticizing Obama for "sitting there for 20 years without condemning his pastor" think that pastor Wright repeated this one offensive statement every Sunday for 20 years? Now THAT'S absurd. Only cable news networks would do that.

Pastors are people and we take the good with the bad. I've had a wonderful pastor who totally offended me several years back. That doesn't take away from all the valuable things I got from him.

As a Christian, I couldn't be more pleased with Obama's speech. And I appreciate his loyalty to his pastor saying "I could no more disown him than I could disown my white grandmother..."

As far as I'm concerned, Barak Obama is the best hope this country has had for more than a generation. He seems to have that special character that doesn't come around very often.

America has been lucky to have someone like Obama come along at critical moments in our history to help us refocus on our lofty ideals, rather than on our petty differences.

Kennedy, Roosevelt and Lincoln are great examples as well as George Washington and the founding fathers. All of these leaders had to endure the petty, irrational attacks of outraged detractors who couldn't bear the thought of altering the status quo (with the possible exception of Washington).

So Obama's detractors are no surprise, unfortunately our dysfunctional media magnifies their views way beyond their actual presence in our society.

Posted by: midwesternChristian | March 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Obama is more "presidential" than George W., McCain and Hillary Clinton. The way he speaks, with intelligence and integrity, is incomparable to those listed above. He is not afraid to stand up and speak to what he believes in - even if it could lessen his chances. He tells it like it is, is honest, and has nothing to hide. He is the fighter, not Hillary. He focuses on his own campaign, rather than Hillary's. Hillary should start focusing on herself, as she is behind in delegates and the popular vote, instead of bashing her capable oponent. She is afraid and knows that the only way she can win is putting down Obama, which means she cannot win on her own ideas, strategies and policies alone. If Hillary Clinton wins the Democratic nomination, the Iraq war will go on for many years to come, because McCain will be our next president. Obama is the only one who has a chance at beating the Republican nominee. Does anyone realize that we have already lost more Americans in the Iraq war, than we lost in 9/11? Something to think about.

Posted by: Beck | March 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

That speech was so contrived. His campaign people were behind closed doors all day figuring out the best way to try and salvage his campaign. I don't trust his judgement. First he said he wasn't present when the Reverend "Wrong" spoke so hatefully and then yesterday he said he was present. He couldn't say one thing to his pastor regarding his devisive remarks. This is why we cannot trust him. All he is is a good deliver of speeches, some of which he didn't even write. C'mon America, let's face it, he almost had all of us bamboozled. His political career is over and boy am I glad. He is a liar, pure and simple. Now we know exactly where Michelle gets all her hatred from. I always said we did not know enough about this man. Good riddens Obama.

Posted by: Terry | March 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

RE: Maria (10:30AM):

"I see the bigots wake early in this country."

LOL! Well said, sister.
I love the fact that Obama's historic speech has stirred a passionate, important debate here. Some of the commentors are long-winded and verbose, many with interesting things to say. But for me, nobody nailed the simpletons and haters to the wall this single line did. 'Nuff said!

Posted by: Steve | March 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

only ignorant, close minded, and polarizing people will not get Obama's speech. i mean listen to the negative responses, they are all filled with anger, hate, and divisiveness. no wonder these folks support hillary bc she like them embrace division.

Obama 08!

Posted by: stephanie | March 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Susan F.
I could vote for a black person, but Obama is Wrong for this country.
Similarly, I can't wait to see a woman president, but Clinton is the wrong woman.

Posted by: Cathy H., New York | March 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Indeed, it was historic speech, that defies the norm-hence the agony and anguish from those seriously feeling the impact of the 3oo years of hiding behind so-called traditions.
Mr. Obama deserves praise for his courage, conviction and charisma. His speech is one of the defining moment in this "loooong" race to the White House. It might be harshly explained that he needs to disown his pastor for years. This is a personal choice, not affecting the elections, since his pastor may not be so much influential in the future, as he was not effective in the past. If the same standards are applied, we need to question the anti-Semitic comments from Rev Graham in those years gone by. We need some form of clarity in assessing the true role of religion in the political arena. To get caught up in this awful mess now is indeed rather absurd. Let us bury these topics and study the relevant issues on hand- i.e. Health care, Economy, Iraq Wars, Stock markets, mortgage meltdown, and our roles in the changing world.

Posted by: babu2cfar | March 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Typical woe is me, I'm a black man

Posted by: Rebar | March 19, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

The man said, he's sorry. What else does his critics want? I mean, really, its time to move on from this story. What other leader in Obama's position could of done what he did? I think you have to be a sophisticated thinker to understand the complexity of both black and white america. Unfortunately, his critics are too arrogant to understand. He ought to be praised and we should leave it at that. I want to hear about what Obama or Billary is going to about the recession.

Posted by: Tom | March 19, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Typical woe is me, I'm a black man

Posted by: Rebar | March 19, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

The right-wing will go nuts trying to destroy Obama. The problem for them is that he truly represents the American ideal of unity, liberty and justice for all and they represent a fractured, polarized, hate-filled America in perpetual war with it's 'enemies".

I can't wait till Barack Obama takes the oath of office..their heads will explode!

Posted by: thebob.bob | March 19, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Big mistake. " I have come to bury Caesar not to praise him" speech. How can you claim not to be injecting race into a campaign when you give an entire speech on it. Who cares what some zealot minister says. I am not going to lose sleep when Pat Robertson puts his foot in his mouth either. Now if this was Andy Rooney you might have something.

Posted by: Al | March 19, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Edward, you are a sick bigot, and at this moment your words make me ashamed to be white. I will say a prayer for your soul and then wipe your words from my memory.

God have mercy on you.

Posted by: Ben | March 19, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Dari - A breath of fresh air, intellect, and reason amidst a sea of blubbering sociopaths and racists.

For those who did not fully listen to Sen. Obama's speech on race (and it's obvious that many will not, because they prefer to cling to their bigotry and racist beliefs like Linus to his blankie), please listen to the whole speech before casting dispersion.

Those who ignore the deep undertones of racism in a statement like Geraldine Ferraro's yet are so quick to jump all over a Pastor's statements that God is not pleased by the fact that no race on earth has been so vilified, abused, cursed, and misused by society as the Afrikans, and in our country, the African Americans, are the embodiment and epitome of what Sen. Obama is talking about.

My maternal Grandfather, God rest his soul, was just such a racist -- he wrote off the whole race because of his negative experiences in the military with but a few bad actors during WWI. I was fortunate that my mother did not inherit this hatred, and I went even a step further, shunning this prejudice completely as too broad a generalization.

Now, one of my offspring has gone a step further bringing a mixed-race child into the world who, like Barack Obama must learn to balance both worlds. My eyes have been opened to the racial prejudices still omni-present in our American society and it's still not a pretty picture.

There are bad actors and apples in every race. That Rev. Wright would be miffed by our country's disregard of the plight of many blacks and the poor, while the current administration pushes through tax breaks that benefit the wealthiest -- to be repaid from the wages of future generations; not from a surplus as a fiscal conservative would do, but by borrowing every dime; 52% of Bushes tax cuts went to the richest 1%, while ruining our economy -- it's no surprise to this White man that Rev. Wright is angry.

In spite of anger which he could hold, Sen. Barack Obama is ready, willing and able to lead us in a unifying way -- to get us back on the right track as outlined in our Declaration and Constitution.

It's not just black people who are suffering, but Asians, Latinos, Whites, and Native Americans -- and the entire MIDDLE CLASS!

It's time to turn the page, to start a new chapter where we're back to the task of forming a more perfect Union.

May God continue to Bless Barack Obama, and May God curse those who would villify and deny rights and privileges to the powerless and the oppressed.

Thank you God for giving us this man, Barack Obama. May we not be so ignorant that we reject his message and crucify him.

Posted by: Andrew L. - Des Moines | March 19, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

When you compare the bumbling idiocy of the incumbent against the the intellect and ability of this man to articulate his vision, it is truly going from the ridiculous to the sublime.

If you have not yet seen Barack Obama's Philadelphia address, here it is.
I think it will go down in history as one of the all-time great speeches from a true statesman,

with excerpted statements such as [paraphrasing]
" problems such as the economy, terrorists, and healthcare are not Black problems, or Asian problems, or Latino problems or white problems-- they are all Americans' problems."

probably ending up as famous as JFK's "Ask not what you can do..." phrase.


Kim
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Barack Obama just finished a major speech on race in America and building a more perfect union.

You should see it and read it for yourself.

Here's the video and full text:

http://my.barackobama.com/hisownwords

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Posted by: klouth | March 19, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

If you actually read Obama's speech (if you can read), you will find one of the finest and most moving political speeches given in the last 100 years. It was given by a man with a high intellect and the compassion needed to save what remains of this country. For those of you who believe that continued racism is the road to the future, remember that you have no one to blame but yourself as your children suffer due to lack of health care and poor education; while you scrape to get buy with a horrible job, a house in foreclosure, and credit debt that you cannot possibly pay. This is the legacy of Bill Clinton/George Bush/John McCain and we need a new direction or this country is lost. Why is it acceptable for Bush and McCain to be supported by white ministers that preach the death of all Muslims, and call for the Godly damnation of America and all who live here? Remember that we voted for our current state of affairs twice. The last time we even knew that we were voting for the most incompetent administration in history of the United State of America, and we put our brains on hold to vote them back. Some mistakes CANNOT be fixed! Do not make another mistake by allowing a bright light to be extinguished by the babbling of racist America. Vote your head this time around, and give your kids a chance at a future.

Posted by: Irving Amscum | March 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Some of the comments made by white folks on this discussion are outwrite shocking. To say Obama is a Muslim shows how ignorant some of the posters are. To say he is power hungry and that Hillary and McCain are not is stupid. I think Obama is the only one in this who is not running for power. Clintons are power-hungry everyone knows...McCain the straight talk express recently became a real politician...with his flip flops (remember i will give illegals citizenship and then oh i heard u).

This today I heard on the radio that Maryland is proposing the day after thanksgiving as a native american holiday. I bring this up cause no one seems to remember that before this country was for whites or blacks it was owned by someone else...the native americans...so move over whites and blacks lets recognize the original injustice of wiping out a race to make a white people home.

Posted by: Ted | March 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Obama's speach was abominable.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

APOLOGIZE TO SENATOR CLINTON~!

Obama should have apologized to Senator Clinto for his Pastors hateful remarks towards her. I am fed up with Obama's misogyny!
Power was kicked out, he didn't stand by her...her "monster" comment was bad BUT it was that she thought it could be "OFF THE RECORD" is what was REALLY bad. That was why she had to go!

But he didn't stand by her no and he shouldn't stand by this horrible Pastor, he is ten times worse than Power!!!!

OBAMA'S JUDGEMENT IS BAD, BAD BAD.
He is WRONG On DAY ONE!
HE IS NOT A LEADER.

He backed John Kerry's Iraq Vote and then changed his opinion and TRASHED Hillary for her same vote. Obama is a two-faced person.

He spends his life praising a father who LEFT HIM over the woman, his mother who took care of him.
He then throws his Grandmother into the arena as a RACIST? Instead of sticking to his absolutely racist and separatists Pastor, who he claims as a mentor and spiritual adviser, INSTEAD, Obama offers up one of his Family memebers for slaughter and degradation.
Everyone WHITE in Obama's FAMILY is of no concern to Obama. He wrote books only about two Black Men as if the women in his life matter none.
I am certain that he is a racist and follows his REVs values for 20 years. His Misogyny and his Racism is what got him this far, along with numerous empty Sound Bites.
People have overlooked it the entire time. Meanwhile he's doing all kinds of vicious wheeling and dealing behind the scenes. But the media KNEW THIS. They knew when his camp played the race card using Gene Robinson as his messenger. The Clintons are NOT the racists here and everyone who really pays attention knows that!
It is disturbing how he painted the Clintons like evildoers when the whole time it WAS HIM!
I truly believe that Obama is one of the worst liars we've seen in a long while and I am ANGRY that no one mentioned he should apologize to Senator Clinton. She does not need to be called "THE N WORD" in order to run this country. She can run this country just by being the smartest, and most ready to serve America and ALL AMERICANS. Even though 91percent of African Americans voted Obama (just because of his skin color) does not make her throw them under the bus, like Obama did his Grandmother!
Obama has terrible judgement and I feel no CHANGE or HOPE from his misogyny or racism.
He is a rotten person.
DO NOT VOTE OBAMA- Please SUPERDELEGATES please do NOT pick HIM. He should not be President. He doesn't know much and hasn't done much and has no real plans to take action. His judgement is impaired and he is racist and he is a misogynistic LIAR.
APOLOGIZE TO HILLARY CLINTON
and to YOUR GRANNY and to YOUR MOTHER and
to all the white women and all the women of every color.
misogyny must stop.
Do not vote Obama for his lies.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

It's a shame I have to say this from the start: I don't have a racist bone in my body. Yes, there are many of us out here.
In fact, I despise racism in ALL its forms.
I could see myself voting for Condi. I would vote for J.C. Watts. I would have voted for Colin Powell, regardless of which party nominated him.
Obama is definitely the wrong black man for the job. In fact, Illinois should be feeling shame for electing him as Senator.

Posted by: Susan F. | March 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Racism will be an issue in this country for a long time. While I commend Obama for speaking on such a touchy subject. I dont think he missed the point a bit. He's looking at racism from one angle... To eliminate racism, we have to address issues involving race without using race as an excuse or a reason. So to say that blacks and hispanics are still being set back in careers and income is a one sided statement that blatantly points out the fact that he's only looking at it from one point of view. Is it happening, im sure it is. Is that the only example of racism, his pastor proves, no. He should be advocating that PEOPLE are still being set back in their careers and income based on race. At this point we need to start homogonizing our way of thinking about race.

Posted by: JD | March 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Rev. Wright nor Obama speak for all of black America. The tirades of Wright has set black people back 20 years. We don't all feel that way nor believe his views and are'nt racist. We have to live and work with you white people that control so much. If Obama was really in disagreement with Wright he should have told him over the last 20 years and stopped going to his church if he did'nt agree. No where in his speech did he say he had confronted or addressed Rev. Wright on his racist speeches. If they were truly such great friends he would have the opportunity to do that.

Posted by: Black American | March 19, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I just wonder if the people spewing the hate in these comments actually LISTENED to what Obama had to say, or if they just think they HEARD him. Because there is a serious amount of hate and misunderstanding, which is scary, considering how Obama's speech was all about getting beyond hate and trying to quell some of the misunderstandings.

To those who say he's a FAKE and GREEDY - how the hell do you know? You're basing that judgement on absolutely nothing - so I base this judgement, as well, on, well, almost nothing, since all I know about you guys is what you've wrote here. But from that, so far, I can gather that 50% of you are being hateful and stupid.

Posted by: Andrew | March 19, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Why is everyone getting so unforgiving about staying a church for twenty years. The point is the Rev. Wright did not preach the same sermon every time he spoke. First that would be brainwashing and you can't keep a 8000 member group together long hearing the same old thing. But then again those in congress have been following the Bush administration and it's pack of lies.

Posted by: ALLMOND | March 19, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Jodi, you're crazy! Ferraro's remarks were *clearly* racially charged, but Obama specifically tried to take some of the heat off her by saying he really believed that she didn't mean it in the way it was taken!

Stop trying to pretend that this new situation has changed your mind; you had it made up already and are trying to look at every single bit of news in the particular light that will give justification to your reasoning.

Posted by: Shikatsu | March 19, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

The comments by Digitalman08 are hypocritical. He feels he should not be held accountable for the racism of other whites yet holds Obama accountable for his pastor's words.
Again I stress some people are making it sound like it was 20 years of hate sermons by Wright. Check the sermons and you will see that was nowhere near the case at all.

Posted by: chatterer | March 19, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

its the enviroment, stupids..........earth first........all ways........

Posted by: wm musson | March 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Memo to white America: Get over yourself and your "this is America, we all pull ourselves up by our bootstraps" bravado. I, myself, am white, and young, and can't believe how ignorant so many of you are. This country, for 200 years, had economic and social systems which were not equal. If you weren't part of it, why do you feel guilty? I don't. But I'm also smart enough to know that you cannot, one day say "ok, everybody's equal now", and then everything's cool. I'm in high school and I recognize this, how can you not? Unbelievable.

Posted by: William S | March 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

You black people really need to face the truth and admit it. You people are the society's waste/garbage- and the least productive group of people on this planet. You always look for the easy way out; easiest way to cash in resources without any kind of investments, physically mentally. You will make racial issues out of anything. You will always stand behind you people regardless of right or wrong as long as you are Black. You people were the ones who initiated the slave-trades with the foreigners prior to 13th century, you people were the ones who sold your own people- and who should had been blamed for that?? Face the truths, get over it and get really!

Posted by: Edward | March 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who 'stands by' a public figure (a 'man' of 'God') who makes comments claiming that "..the government created AIDS to wipe out his race," is an imbecile. This is exactly the sort of ranting, baseless, ignorant, 'preaching' that is making America the laughing stock of the world - and has her enemies rubbing their hands with glee.
To see a senior politician twisting (spinning?)these words to make them seem like something else would make Joseph Stalin and Adolph Hitler proud.
But then ...over 30 Americans voted Bush in.. and then claimed he cheated!

Posted by: Bob | March 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Wright is no Martin Luther King, that's for sure. And quite frankly, as a democrat, neither is Obama. But I don't think Obama thinks he's the next Martin Luther King. Obviously he's part of this modern world so what he builds on will have MLK's legacy as part of the foundation but he has to make his own way. Can he do it? I don't know, but personally I don't think he's been that amazing. His speech could've been written by any intelligent black, or non-white person in America (I'm non-white but I'm not black). He's not necessarily showing a miraculous new way but at least he's trying to guide people the right way.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 19, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

He didn't pick is grandma. He DID pick his racist minister.
Why nobody sees this?

Posted by: Ruben Misrahi | March 19, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Senator Obamas speech, in my opinion was one of the greatest speeches I have heard since the Martin Luther King days. The man spoke nothing but the truth, from his heart, and from his experence. To see so many up in arms, over this speech, tells me exactly what their agenda's must be. To keep this country divided. Its a shame that race had to become a issue in this race, and it hurts more that a lot of this playing or the race card has come directly from the Democratic party, and of course the media, who constantly beats the racial drum. What a lot of the media does not know, is that this is only going to make Mr Obama even stronger as the race continues. If Mr Obama can survive this first salvo of racial criticism, he had better hold on to his hat, because the republican's are going to throw everything they have at him. I'm praying for him, supporting him, and am willing to fall with him. God Bless America.

Posted by: John Robinson | March 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Where was Obama's great wisdom when the African American community made a big issue of Clinton's MLK LBJ comments which were not even in the slightest bit racist. Now when it is convenient and good for his political future Obama wants to denounce race as an issue in this election. Obama speech is several months late and far to convenient to his political ambitions. I am reminded of his campaign denouncing NAFTA to the Ohio voters and telling Canadian officials not to worry that it is just campaign positioning. Obama is just another not so slick politician. I for one will not be fooled.

Posted by: political oberserver | March 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

How can you say that Obama was only saying that whites were racist? He thoroughly addressed the issue of black racism and its roots. What is wrong with you people, do you just read the headlines about the speech and then write it off? Have you depth of character?

Obama did the right thing. Was it the right thing for his presidential run? I don't know, maybe not. But he seems willing to sacrifice his presidency to uphold his friendship, even it is with a man that we think (wrongly) is nothing but a racist anti-American agent of hate. That makes him the most honest politician alive.

Face the music, Obama is the spirit of this generation. If you let him lose, you have damned us all.

Posted by: Caleb | March 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Where was Obama's great wisdom when the African American community made a big issue of Clinton's MLK LBJ comments which were not even in the slightest bit racist. Now when it is convenient and good for his political future Obama wants to denounce race as an issue in this election. Obama speech is several months late and far to convenient to his political ambitions. I am reminded of his campaign denouncing NAFTA to the Ohio voters and telling Canadian officials not to worry that it is just campaign positioning. Obama is just another not so slick politician. I for one will not be fooled.

Posted by: political oberserver | March 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Where was Obama's great wisdom when the African American community made a big issue of Clinton's MLK LBJ comments which were not even in the slightest bit racist. Now when it is convenient and good for his political future Obama wants to denounce race as an issue in this election. Obama speech is several months lat and far to convenient to his political ambitions. I am reminded of his campaign denouncing NAFTA to the Ohio voters and telling Canadian officials not to worry that it is just campaign positioning. Obama is just another not so slick politician. I for one will not be fooled.

Posted by: political oberserver | March 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

If you watch fish schooling in a fishtank, you will see they are racist as well. It is endemic and genetic.

Should we ignore the pastors right to be racist? I believe he is, but that is what freedom is. Just like a neonazi, he is allowed to be a racist.

Should Obama be judged by another mans words? Should we moralize and determine whom he can associate with? Freedom says that he CAN associate with a racist, and not be ostracized, or judged by that mans behaviour.

Racism will never be purged from our DNA, but like a self admitting alcoholic we can learn to live around it and to push it back and battle it.

The advisors falling by the wayside on all parts of this political event for statements (real or misconstrued) due to outroars belittles freedom, each and every one. Simply by our indignant self immolification and polarized reactions believing that we personally are 100% right in our personal opinion of this event, we have stopped serving the cause of freedom.

The pastor has a right to be racist, the politician has a right to listen to him. Both without fear of recrimination. Or at least that was what freedom said.

Posted by: Andy | March 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Swift boats are a'coming.

The war's five years old now, the economy is going to hell in a hand basket. Oil is selling for over a hundred a barrel and the environment is teetering.

Glad we all manage to keep things in perspective.

Posted by: rzzzzz | March 19, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The speech was a masterpiece. It tells us that he has great qualities of persuasion, logic, knowledge of history and etc., etc., etc., which will enable him to be a great president.
Of course he will still have to fight the right wing cash cows like crazy to get anything done

Ignacio

Posted by: ignacio | March 19, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Obama has asked us to think rationally about the racism in America.

Unfortunately, the racists, as summarized in the today's article, don't behave rationally. How dare those bigots feign anger over someone who is upset about their bigotry! Rev. Wright was over the top, just as some priests and pastors were over the top when they threatened eternal damnation for anyone supporting a pro-life political candidate. Becoming ordained does not make a person perfect, just ask any honest minister or priest you might know. Wright was wrong, but Wright is not Obama.

What more could Obama do? He said straight out as plain as day that he adamantly disagrees with Rev. Wright's comments and thinks they were unwise and counterproductive to the healing of race relations? And more, he fully and correctly explained to everyone the kinds of racial tensions that have existed and that still exist in American society, and that still stand in the way of this becoming "a more perfect union."

The bloggers who are feigning outrage at Obama for things he didn't say and doesn't agree with are the true bigots here.

Bigotry is a product of ignorance, and ignorance, by definition, is irrational. No wonder Obama's speech failed to satisfy them.

Posted by: american146 | March 19, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama appears to have expended an extraordinary amount of time and effort to authenticate his own blackness, to himself, first and foremost.

It begs a question, or two, at the least. If Mr. Obama were truly at peace with, and as self integrated about, his own racial identity as he has offered on so many occasions, one has to wonder - at least a little bit - why he spent 20 years under the spiritual tutelage of a minister so clearly obsessed with anger and hate?

If Mr. Obama was as completely accepting and unconflicted about himself, ( and his own "blackness", his "authenticity" ), it is not an action of racism to wonder, to question, why then would such a race-neutral man he be so drawn to, devoted, accepting, and integrated into a church, ( and admiring of a church leader ), who's core ministry is to make race the defining issue?

Could it be that Mr. Obama felt, feels, some as yet un-articulated need to prove, ( if not first to himself - then perhaps to his chosen constituency ), the validity of his own personal "blackness". And further, perhaps owing to the melting pot qualities of his own racial ethnicity, is it possible Mr. Obama felt a need to not 'just' be black but to be REALLY and Outspokenly "Black", ( if not by word or deed, then perhaps by association )? And can Mr. Obama really now have it both ways?

In his latest speech, Barrack Obama speaks of condemning the hate of Reverend Wright in the leading part of one sentence while concomitantly defending that same anger, the same hate, as authentic and justified in the same sentence as "real", and "profound". Obama condemns and validates Wright's bigotry in the same breathe.

Personally, I don't buy a word of it. I personally think Mr. Obama calculated a long time ago that he was in a unique position to have the race card play trump in any colour that suited his purposes. And we may have just crossed a bridge to a few upcoming hands of No Trump.

Posted by: China_Rider | March 19, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

It was inevitable that this was going to be the "defining speech' of Obama's career. Now that all the score cards have been held up and people have had their say...let's move on to the realities and dangers that we are facing in this world. None of which can be solved with Obama-speak.

And for the record...Obama ain't no MLK, JFK, RFK or anything remotely similar. He's a political hack from Chicago with a slick campaign manager/speech writer named Axelrod, a hate mongering preacher named Wright & a political king maker named Rezko....to name a few of his dangerous (for us) advisers.

Posted by: Dr. Dave | March 19, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

APOLOGIZE TO SENATOR CLINTON~!

Obama should have apologized to Senator Clinto for his Pastors hateful remarks towards her. I am fed up with Obama's misogyny!
Power was kicked out, he didn't stand by her...her "monster" comment was bad BUT it was that she thought it could be "OFF THE RECORD" is what was REALLY bad. That was why she had to go!

But he didn't stand by her no and he shouldn't stand by this horrible Pastor, he is ten times worse than Power!!!!

OBAMA'S JUDGEMENT IS BAD, BAD BAD.
He is WRONG On DAY ONE!
HE IS NOT A LEADER.

He backed John Kerry's Iraq Vote and then changed his opinion and TRASHED Hillary for her same vote. Obama is a two-faced person.

He spends his life praising a father who LEFT HIM over the woman, his mother who took care of him.
He then throws his Grandmother into the arena as a RACIST? Instead of sticking to his absolutely racist and separatists Pastor, who he claims as a mentor and spiritual adviser, INSTEAD, Obama offers up one of his Family memebers for slaughter and degradation.
Everyone WHITE in Obama's FAMILY is of no concern to Obama. He wrote books only about two Black Men as if the women in his life matter none.
I am certain that he is a racist and follows his REVs values for 20 years. His Misogyny and his Racism is what got him this far, along with numerous empty Sound Bites.
People have overlooked it the entire time. Meanwhile he's doing all kinds of vicious wheeling and dealing behind the scenes. But the media KNEW THIS. They knew when his camp played the race card using Gene Robinson as his messenger. The Clintons are NOT the racists here and everyone who really pays attention knows that!
It is disturbing how he painted the Clintons like evildoers when the whole time it WAS HIM!
I truly believe that Obama is one of the worst liars we've seen in a long while and I am ANGRY that no one mentioned he should apologize to Senator Clinton. She does not need to be called "THE N WORD" in order to run this country. She can run this country just by being the smartest, and most ready to serve America and ALL AMERICANS. Even though 91percent of African Americans voted Obama (just because of his skin color) does not make her throw them under the bus, like Obama did his Grandmother!
Obama has terrible judgement and I feel no CHANGE or HOPE from his misogyny or racism.
He is a rotten person.
DO NOT VOTE OBAMA- Please SUPERDELEGATES please do NOT pick HIM. He should not be President. He doesn't know much and hasn't done much and has no real plans to take action. His judgement is impaired and he is racist and he is a misogynistic LIAR.
APOLOGIZE TO HILLARY CLINTON
and to YOUR GRANNY and to YOUR MOTHER and
to all the white women and all the women of every color.
misogyny must stop.
Do not vote Obama for his lies.

Posted by: Gloria | March 19, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I have never been a racist and in fact back in the 60's I (we) voted and elected a black man as class President inspite of our parents. Our class had 800 students and only 6 black students but we elected the black candidate on merit. However I would never vote for Obama because he and only he has been playing the race card through out this entire primary. He began when Bill Clinton said "Jesse Jackson won SC too." is a factual statement and there is nothing racist about stating the facts but Obama did nothing to set the record straight preferring to start a race war to gain votes. Same is true with Ms Ferraro's statement that Obama would not be in this position if he were white. Absolutely true but Obama calls it racist and compares the factual statement with the hate filled speaches of his Rev. Wright.....totally dishonest...Obama will not get my vote even if he is VP on Hillary's ticket. If Hillary is nominated and chooses a different VP then I will vote for Hillary and if not then I vote McCain which will be the first time in my life that I vote Republican.

Posted by: jodi | March 19, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

This is NOT an issue of race. I would vote for Condi Rice or Colin Powell today! It is unthinkable that anyone would support a man who was raised and educated as a Muslim and then spent half of his life in an Africa first, USA hating church.

Posted by: Chuck | March 19, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I thought his speech was remarkable. Watching selected clips on the various news networks does not do justice to his words or impart the historical scope encompassed in his presentation. To see a man so obviously Presidential in demeanor, speaking to Americans like adults on such a difficult subject was an extraordinary sight. In my mind, he has the potential to be the most gifted and inspirational leader in my lifetime.

Posted by: Michael Downey | March 19, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Patrick, these people aren't going to look in the mirror to examine themselves. H*ll, they can't even come up with original talking points. One dittohead screams about 20 years of listening to hate speech, 100 dittoheads regurgitate the same point. Making it quite obvious that they didn't listen to Barack's speech. They won this round, so let them have it. Let their children go off to whatever war McCain wants to frog march off into next. Let their jobs get sent over seas, let them watch their taxes increase while Trump's decrease. Let them b*tch and moan for another four years about yet another Bush-like president they were swifted boated into electing. Let them get exactly what they deserve.

Posted by: BrooklynGirl | March 19, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

It is really mind-boggling to see the ignorance of those who want to bring about the political destruction of a remarkable individual who had the courage to take this issue head on and offer up some very poignant observations and a path toward healing these divisions. It seems to me that the harshest critics of the speech either didn't actually listen to it, or it went completely over their heads. I listened very carefully. I did not hear him "scold" anybody -- anybody saying he did brings some pretty hostile preconceptions to what was actually said. I also did not hear him say he had never been there when Wright said some of these objectionable things -- quite the opposite. And I also heard him point out that the sum total of Wright's life as a minister to an inner city Protestant congregation has a lot more to it than the four or five 30-second sound bites that the right wing media has been running endlessly, and claiming falsely is what he has been preaching non-stop for 20 years. Anybody who has read the audacity of hope sermon that inspired Obama to revisit his Christian faith would know that it is not angry or hate-filled or even critical of the things or symbols to which the right wing in this country would have all of us swear an oath of loyalty. Yes, he has made some controversial and hateful remarks, but no more so (in fact, considerably less so) than Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Pat Dobson, Hagee and countless others Christian conservatives who the GOP has embraced enthusiastically for the past 20-30 years. And no, McCain and Bush don't attend Pat Robertson's or Jerry Falwell's church, but they do seek to appeal to their disciples, and accept their political support, and half the Justice Department is now staffed with "lawyers" who were indoctrinated (I mean educated) at Regent University, a Pat Robertson run operation. Obama attends Wright's church, but he does not leverage off of his political persona -- so which is worse?

To my ear, the speech was perfect, measured, honest and remarkable in this day and age, where politics is played safe, and where negative attacks usually win out over honesty and analysis of complex and controversial issues by a candidate. That he had the courage and integrity to do this speaks volumes to his presidential character. That anybody would vilify him for it is more a freflection of the sad and corrosive politics of the past than it is areflection of who Obama is as a man or a leader.

Posted by: MT | March 19, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

In a few of the comments that are included in this op-ed piece people have said that Barack did nothing during the 20 years that he sat in church. Saying that just does not make sense to me. Had Barack come out 10 years ago and denounced Wright it would have been out of place and people would have wondered why. For that matter, who is to say that he never spoke with Wright privately about his concerns. Barack stood up and spoke about Wright's comments when people demanded to hear. His speech was powerful and insiteful and presented a multi-dimensional view into this complex topic. Barack obviously does not hate this nation. He has spent his adult life making it better.

Posted by: John Mahoney | March 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Qualities of Presidential Leadership that Barack Obama displays

Charisma:
Charming and personable, undeniably the most charismatic candidate in this contest.

Partnership and voice:
Has a the ability to reach and connect with all parties Dems, Reps, and Indies.

Vision and values:
Unity, Clarity, Loyal and Honest; did you not hear the speech yesterday?

Knowledge and daring:
Civil servant, community leader, senator, etc.. The list goes on!)

Savvy and persistence:
Consistently rises to the occasion and owns up to his words with action.
Has displayed commendable strength, dignity and determination under extreme public duress.

Personal qualities:
Barrack has - passion, humor, and empathy strength of character, general maturity, patience, wisdom, common sense, trustworthiness, reliability, creativity, sensitivity.

Come on you haters...you know Barack has it all. And soon he will be the next President in the White House. The republicans know it too. Why do you think they are trying to help Hillary win the democratic nom? Republicans know John McCain will kick her A@#! if she is the democratic nominee.

Posted by: Yvette Oneil | March 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

APOLOGIZE TO SENATOR CLINTON~!

Obama should have apologized to Senator Clinto for his Pastors hateful remarks towards her. I am fed up with Obama's misogyny!

Power was kicked out, he didn't stand by her...her "monster" comment was bad BUT it was that she thought it could be "OFF THE RECORD" is what was REALLY bad. That was why she had to go!

But he didn't stand by her no and he shouldn't stand by this horrible Pastor, he is ten times worse than Power!!!!

OBAMA'S JUDGEMENT IS BAD, BAD BAD.
He is WRONG On DAY ONE!
HE IS NOT A LEADER.

He backed John Kerry's Iraq Vote and then changed his opinion and TRASHED Hillary for her same vote. Obama is a two-faced person.

He spends his life praising a father who LEFT HIM over the woman, his mother who took care of him.

He then throws his Grandmother into the arena as a RACIST? Instead of sticking to his absolutely racist and separatists Pastor, who he claims as a mentor and spiritual adviser, INSTEAD, Obama offers up one of his Family memebers for slaughter and degradation.

Everyone WHITE in Obama's FAMILY is of no concern to Obama. He wrote books only about two Black Men as if the women in his life matter none.

I am certain that he is a racist and follows his REVs values for 20 years. His Misogyny and his Racism is what got him this far, along with numerous empty Sound Bites.

People have overlooked it the entire time. Meanwhile he's doing all kinds of vicious wheeling and dealing behind the scenes. But the media KNEW THIS. They knew when his camp played the race card using Gene Robinson as his messenger. The Clintons are NOT the racists here and everyone who really pays attention knows that!

It is disturbing how he painted the Clintons like evildoers when the whole time it WAS HIM!

I truly believe that Obama is one of the worst liars we've seen in a long while and I am ANGRY that no one mentioned he should apologize to Senator Clinton. She does not need to be called "THE N WORD" in order to run this country. She can run this country just by being the smartest, and most ready to serve America and ALL AMERICANS. Even though 91percent of African Americans voted Obama (just because of his skin color) does not make her throw them under the bus, like Obama did his Grandmother!

Obama has terrible judgement and I feel no CHANGE or HOPE from his misogyny or racism.
He is a rotten person.

DO NOT VOTE OBAMA- Please SUPERDELEGATES please do NOT pick HIM. He should not be President. He doesn't know much and hasn't done much and has no real plans to take action. His judgement is impaired and he is racist and he is a misogynistic LIAR.

APOLOGIZE TO HILLARY CLINTON
and to YOUR GRANNY and to YOUR MOTHER and
to all the white women and all the women of every color.

misogyny must stop.
Do not vote Obama for his lies.

Posted by: Thank You For this Article | March 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

This debacle shows that Mr. Obama is a good man, but unsuited to be the CEO of our country. His ambivalence of his own identity makes him a conformist trying to please everybody and avoid confrontation. These are not qualities of the CEO. If person with such character will be faced real tough environment this will lead to a catastrophe. But the same qualities and his apparent intelligence make him very effective in different areas of public service. He can be a great senator and it should stay this way.

Posted by: Paul | March 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Writing from St. Petersburg, Russia, after watching Obama's speech on my computer, I must offer, as an American abroad, my view that Obama spoke the language of leadership and healing. Clearly he seeks to solicit the best from his fellow Americans, while understanding the pitfalls of confronting our nation's greatest failing directly. It is too easy to stay mired in the swamp of our past racism and very difficult to look at it squarely with clear basic words, words that are taken from our wonderful history as a nation. I hope he keeps talking and talking and talking. I may even switch from Hillary to him.

Bert Kubli
Washington, DC
From Russia with Love

Posted by: Bert Kubli | March 19, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Dari, those are some excellent and thoughtful comments.

The notion that we have to "disown" anyone in our lives who makes a non-PC comment in order to prove that we disagree with them is downright absurd.

On second thought, is even somewhat sick. It reflects the notion that we can only associate with perfect people whose lives are completely unstained by any foolish decisions, rash words, or flaws. Put anyone's life under a microscope, and you will find one of these things.

By this standard, if I myself one day run for office, I will no doubt be forced to publicly disown my own grandfather and uncle, who have made highly racist and non-PC comments on countless occasions.

Does this mean that I agree with their racist comments? Of course not...I couldn't disagree more, and yes, to quote Barack Obama, their words in fact make ME cringe, even as a young white man. My actions and system of values have always stood in complete contrast to theirs. And yet I still love them and consider them family.

As a white man, I can say that the level of bitterness and fearfulness expressed by other conservative whites (indeed, right here on this forum) is downright ludicrous, and somewhat pitiful. A black preacher makes a few strong comments, and conservative whites are roundly vilifying and condemning a great man for simply SITTING IN HIS PEW.

To those conservative whites vilifying Obama on this forum, I ask: are you willing to adhere to the same standards that you so vehemently profess, by publicly disowning your own friends and family members who have ever uttered offensive words?

Come on, guys. The world is actually a nice place, full of nice people. Let go of your fear, your bitterness, your hatred, and for once embrace a little reason.

It might do you some good.

Oh, and you should actually watch Obama's speech. It was inspiring, not to mention downright brilliant.

Posted by: Ben | March 19, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Newsmax points out (correctly) that Michele Obama's comments now make perfect sense: she and her husband hate this country!
Go ahead, America! Be stupid and elect him.

Posted by: Topher G. | March 19, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

i believe that Obama is a very dangerous polital man. he is fake , he has a good speaking but he does not believe in what he say. he is very greedy and the lasty event of his long friendship with rev.Wright . now because can be dangereous for his campaigne he decides to condemn him because of what he says. that is absurde. GOD SAVE AMERICA AND THE WHOLE WORLD FROM OBAMA. If we says Bush has not been a good president for americans expecially for muslim country and history will judge him. Obama will be more WORSTE. HE WANTS ONLY THE POWER . NO CARE FOR ANYBODY less then less the world!!!!!

Posted by: pino russo | March 19, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

This election is about more than a personality cult. Obama is so obsessed with himself, his race, his pastor, his "journey," his agenda. At least Clinton and McCain care about the country. They are public servants, knowledgeable and focused on the issues that are important. Their disagreements represent the two sides of the political spectrum that matter to the country right now. Obama's personal agenda about race and his book and his demands, don't really connect with anyone except for the starry-eyed groupies and the media. You probably strongly disagree with either Clinton or McCain, but they are both American patriots and what you see is what you get. American voters appreciate that.

Posted by: voter212 | March 19, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Where is the balance? The 20 years of Reverend Wright are now summed up in those few negative comments strung together and replayed over and over again by the media. I say few only in light of the fact that there were a lot more positive things that were said in his sermons. That fact is lost even though it can easily be reviewed as many of his sermons were taped.

Posted by: chatterer | March 19, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I'm pretty sure that the people who are making stupid comments about Obama did not really read the speech or see the speech from yesterday. Even the biggest bigot in the world would have to commend Obama on the fact he discussed racism against whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, indians..THE WORLD. He even mentioned 'the glass ceiling.'

The people who are making derogatory comments are just ignorant racists. These are the kind of people who would likely applaud the assasinations of MLK, JFK, RK...etc..

You haters are a bunch of pathetic losers. Consumed by hatred of a skin color.

Posted by: Yvette Oneil | March 19, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

I AM NOT A HILARY SUPPORTER BUT COME ON, TO SAY THAT SENATOR OBAMAS SPEECH RIVALS THOSE OF LYNDON JOHNSON, MLK, JFK OR OUR FOUNDING FATHERS IS A STRETCH. YES I AGREE THAT IT WAS A GOOD SPEECH BUT IT DIDN'T ANSWER WHY HE LISTENED TO 20 YEARS OF ANTI AMERICAN, ANTI WHITE HATRIED. THERE WAS NO APOLOGY FOR EXPOSING HIS CHILDREN TO HIS PASTORS VISERAL HATRIED. BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY HE DIDN'T DENOUNCE THE MAN HIM SELF OR OTHERS IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY WHO PROFIT FROM HOLDING THEIR BROTHERS DOWN SUCH AS JESSE JACKSON, AL SHARPTON OR LOUIS FARRAKHAN. IF SENATOR OBMABA WANTS TO TALK ABOUT RACE THEN HE SHOULD BE WILLING TO "WALK THE WALK" AS WELL. SADLY THERE IS DISCRIMINATION IN ALL WALKS OF LIFE AND NO SPEECH OR ONE MAN WILL CHANGE THAT.

BASED ON SENATOR OBAMAS FAILURE TO DENOUNCE AND DIASSOCIATE HIMSELF FROM PASTOR WRIGHT I, AS MANY OTHERS WILL, NOW VOTE FOR JOHN McCAIN.

Posted by: Boo-Hoo | March 19, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Of course, only white people can be racist. Obama had years to distance himself from Wright, yet only chose to do so after being exposed on video. And frankly, what has an individual's ability to give speeches got to do with his moral character or ability to lead. I for one will vote for McCain given the certainty Obama will win the democratic nomination. What a shame, we needed a change, and what we were offered - Obama or Hillary both bad choices are not good enough.

I am white, but grew up in many countries. My best friend in High School was black and I marched in London in the early 80's against Apartheid. I do confess that as I have grown older I am discouraged by the desegregation taking place in our society not just by whites but by all races, all of whom seem to have hunkered down in their own ethnic groups, content to blame other groups for what is bad about their lives. I did not hear anything in Obama's speech that would indicate this trend would reverse under his presidency.

Posted by: Gordon | March 19, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

So white folks are fairys....u hide behind the excuse that 'it was not me who made them slaves' .... not a valid excuse...u r better off today in every way due to your slave-owning ancestors. btw i am neither white nor black...so no sides here.

i have seen and heard infammatory speeches by white ministers ... so why pick on Obama for any faults in his pastor.

Hilary is nothing but an opportunist...most republicans want her to be the nominuee...for 2 reasons...1) they can bring dirt from the past 2)republicans know that many Obama supporters like me WILL NOT vote for Hillary...i'd rather stay home.

Posted by: Mathew | March 19, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Farrakhan for Vice Presdent.
What do you think?

Posted by: pathfinder1 | March 19, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

My natural father was Jewish. Jews need to wake up and realize that American has been an imperialist nation with regard to stealing middle east oil. So has Britain in the 20th century. We are doing the same with the Iraq War. If Jewish people support the Iraq War just because it means American is supporting Israel, that is wrong headed. We need to support Israel because they are democratic, not because we are also stealing oil at the same time.

I view PNAC and those who wanted war with Iraq to be misguided, and certainly that pastor showed anger with that misguided policy. He crossed the line with comments about Israel, but this should be a basis of dialogue and coming to a greater understanding. I don't see that happening from Jews who are so ultra sensitive that they cannot see the injustices that America has been engaged in.

Until Jews realize that America has done evil in its stealing of oil, in its voiding of contracts, then they will always be ignorant of the truth. Until they realize that Obama glossed over those injustices in order to fit in with the mainstream and bridge the gap these petty people will miss the genius of his speech. I wouldn't have kissed butt with a Dershowitz like mentality, and my father was Jewish!

Posted by: Gary Anderson | March 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

What I hear from the defenders of "Rev" Wright is "It's a black thing. You wouldn't understand." Obama speech was eloquent, but without action it is "just words". He took no action for 20 years, and only now, when it is politically expedient for him, does he acknowledge the nature of his pastor's comments. If there is to be a discussion on race, let it be lead by Bill Cosby who does not have the mindset of "blame whitey for all the problems in black society".

Posted by: tgw | March 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"I was lost but now am found..." A lifelong Republican (or non-) voter and Vietnam Veteran. Senator Barach Obama has inspired and lifted me in a way I could have never imagined possible. When he challenged white and black ALIKE to look deep with-in to uncover our own racial positions, I sat back and just thought "WOW"!

Posted by: kmajor@hrg.com | March 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

The Audacity of Hate; Barack Obama's Trinity United Church of Christ's Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A Wright with his Racist Sermons & his Racist Supporters.


Imagine if Hillary Clinton's church proclaimed on its website that it is "unashamedly white." The media would pounce, and Clinton's presidential candidacy would be over. Yet that is exactly what Barack Obama's church says on its web site -- except in reverse.

"Wright on Israel: "The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.

For the same reason why I would not vote for any candidate that attended The David Duke Church of Christ is the same reason why I cannot vote for anyone who sat for twenty (20) years in the Trinity united Church of Christ.

Posted by: Peter30 | March 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

If all American whites were as racist as some of the posters on here, our country would be doomed.

Posted by: Stunned | March 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

My pastor has said things in the past i don't agree with. I am not my brother's keeper. I never challenge his words. He has a right to protected speech. Pastor Wright is a very angry individual he has not used his Christian principles to forgive and forget. A lot of ethnic and religious groups have been treated badly in the United States due to ignorance and hatred. Hopefully we will grow past it. We only viewed one speech of Pastor Wright we never viewed his other sermons. may be his other sermons were more positive. I think Mr.Obama has good and positive things to say. We should give him a chance he could not be any worse than our current president. We need a thinker in the White House and I feel Senator Obama could be that man.

Posted by: Danny | March 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I am a registered republican - and have been so for many years - for the most part, because I believe that everyone needs to be held accountable for their own actions, successes, and concequences. What I saw yesterday - Mr. Obama's "More Perfect Union" speech INSPIRED me. He nailed it. He is a man of integrity - his straight-forward acknowledgement of racial divide - understanding not only BOTH black and white - and acknowledging that understanding so profoundly - captivated me. I have never known a political leader of this country, city, or local town hall for that matter, that I would want to stand next to or be involved with. It has been my experience that you had to be a "special person" to run and win political office - one who scratched, clawed, and flung knives in backs to leverage your way to the top. Mr. Obama has enlightened me - made me re-evaluate my views, and he makes me want to take action! To get involved in my community myself, for myself - ironically the very essence of my conservative values. Hooray for a leader who can rally his people - of every race and creed! I am a middle-class white woman - 33 years old, married, working mother of 2 - and I am inspired! I have changed my political affiliation - just so I can vote for Obama!!! His speech has touched me profoundly - and by my conversations around the water cooler - I am not the only one.

Posted by: tboz | March 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Obama is Wrong on Wright.
This story, along with reactions from many Blacks, confirms what I've long known: Blacks are more racist than Whites at this point. Obama is definitely among them. Equally bad, I very much question his patriotism at this point.

Posted by: James S. | March 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

have you just watched youtube and other 30 second broadcasts? I, like most people, do not care for these statements,however, can you actually assert Wright continually and regularly, over twenty years of time, made statements like this (week in and week out)? I do not deny that these are divisive, but cannot assume (yet) that he did this on a regular basis. Bringing religion into the equation can only divide, not unite. Look at the evangelicals with respect to the last two bush campaigns? There are too many factional religions that are held in contempt by many others. Bringing religion into politics is a disaster just like race.

Posted by: chuck scott | March 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I'm almost 40, and nobody in my political memory (starting with Ford)comes even close to being the statesman that Obama is. I sincerely doubt we'll ever see another great one like him again in our lifetimes. In short, his candidacy is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for our nation to really be what we want it to be. Is it a roll of the dice? Sure, but so is every candidate. He can't possibly be any worse than either of the Clintons or McCain, and anyone at all would be an improvement over our current president. C'mon gen x-ers, it's time to make some noise! Let's move beyond the arguments that our grandparents' generation had with our parents' generation 40 years ago and still define our country today. Let's vote for somebody who knows what century it is--we might never get another chance!

Posted by: istandan | March 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

it was a very moving speech. i have been reading people's reactions to it across a plethora of different sites, and i must say everything's pretty typical. still, i don't take the negative comments as personal insults like some seem to be doing, because abe lincoln, mlk and jfk were far from being universally praised for their words and actions either. still, history looks favorably on them, as is does for the senator as well. race is a true, real and bitter issue in this country, as well as the resentment and frustration on ALL sides. it will be for a long, long time.
still, i can't help but smirk at the fact that many of the people who are so jilted by the "racist demagogue" pastor:
1) probably regularly listen to rush limbaugh or ann coulter, or other even-handed beacons promoting american unity.
2) wouldn't have voted for barack anyway, so it's not like your opinion mattered in the 1st place.
and 3) probably would have distorted views like Rev. Wright regarding your past "enemy" as well if they unleashed german shepherds and fire hoses on you during your peaceful rally for equality.

they say that winston churchill's macaw is 107 years old and still curses adolf hitler. old habits die hard.

Posted by: cynical | March 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

I believe Barack Obama's speech was very bold and that again and again he has demonstrated his ability to be the President of the United States.

I believe Senator Obama was correct about words and speech that we all know exist behind the closed door of our privite settings. We all don't want to omit it, but it's there and we are not disavowing our friends and family, we are allowing it to happen.

Before you disparage Senator Clinton, Obama and McCain, stop and think about whether you meet the same standards you expect them to uphold. Are we looking for perfection?

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Posted by: ROBERT | March 19, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Obama continues to wow Americans with his rhetoric but the fact remains he sat and listened to hate and racism and anti-American attacks and distorted statements about the AIDS epidemic. How long will it take before Americans realize that being a good speaker does not let you off the hook for befriending and supporting and taking advice from a pastor who preaches hate.

Posted by: Nancy Greenfield | March 19, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I believe Barack Obama's speech was very bold and that again and again he has demonstrated his ability to be the President of the United States.

I believe Senator Obama was correct about words and speech that we all know exist behind the closed door of our privite settings. We all don't want to omit it, but it's there and we are not disavowing our friends and family, we are allowing it to happen.

Before you disparage Senator Clinton, Obama and McCain, stop and think about whether you meet the same standards you expect them to uphold. Are we looking for perfection?

.

Posted by: ROBERT | March 19, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Take the blinders off Obamians! Your making a big mistake!

Posted by: next2infinity | March 19, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

For me the speech was a historic! he talked the reality. It takes a great courage and to come out and talk the issue. the race issue should be talked and discussed everywhere. I think Obama opened the door for that discussion and we should follow him.

Posted by: EritroCentric | March 19, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

For those of you who still can't accept that Obama didn't disown his pastor years ago I have two question:

1) Honestly, how many friends have you disowned because they said prejudice things?

2) How many friends have you disowned because of any view they held whatsoever?

Give me a break. The only reason you hold Wright against Obama is that you support another candidate for president.

Posted by: Russ Schmieder | March 19, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

come on guys, Obama didn't start the whole race issue, Geraldine Ferraro did! Those stupid women, thinking they can say whatever they want XD. . . . . . These issues just distract us, sure everyone with youtube now knows Obama's minister is a crazy old guy, but how many know his stances, his accomplishments and his goals for the country? And it's not for lack of trying on Obama's part, he talks about race issues 10% of the time but the news plays those stories 95% of the time.

Posted by: Steph | March 19, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Yes, Dari, Rev. Wright has also said things which were not racist and anti-American; but what's your point. This is the old "Hitler was good to his dog" argument.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

the people saying obama should not have sat in his church for 20 years and that he should have condemned Wright a long time ago are absurd and unintelligent. look at the huge mirrors in your houses! are any of your hands clean? aren't you imperfect just like everyone else?

obama has directly stated that Wright is like his family. he condemned the man's actions and that should be enough! do we condemn our own parents if we are being scolded or blamed for someone else's mischiefs? do we just leave them in the air and walk out of our house in the sake of "condemning" our parents? the COMMON SENSE answer is NO! we reject the unfair actions of our parents but we never leave nor condemn the people themselves.

LOOK AT THE FREAKIN MIRROR! that's all i am asking of you people! how can you judge obama for his pastor's actions. we are accountable for our own actions; we cannot control other people's behaviors. this just goes to show that a small dot on clean white sheet of paper is ,as most peole say, ALL THAT IS LEFT of that paper... they never see the cleanliness beyond that dot... how sad.

Posted by: patrick | March 19, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I think Obama did a fantastic job of talking what no one had the guts to. He made a very strong point by giving a message to people that once they rise above the racism in the country, will they be able to do something for this country. That he is not leaving the church also shows that he truly did not act like a politician ,who would never risk the support of Americans by compromising on his own self and thoughts. What people look as him still supporting Wright , in completely out of context. He does in no way support the political idealogies that Wright has. Period !!!

Posted by: Nikhil | March 19, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

This Rev Wright situation was the perfect excuse for bigots not to support a black man. The fake outrage is as transparent as Hillary's sudden concerns about the poor voters in Michigan and Florida. The same people who are so appalled about Wright's comments are the same people who constantly make stereotypical remarks in regards to people of color. These are same people who, as we speak, are defending Hagee's remarks and McCain accepting his endorsement. It's a blatant double standard and a flimsy excuse not to support the candidate who does not share their skin hue. What this election process has made clear is that a lack of education can sometimes equate to a closed mind AND Republicans do not want the black and hispanic votes, or at least until whites lose their majority status in this country which is only a few decades from happening. And when they do, I guarantee you, Rev Wright's comments won't be so bad after all! Smirk now, but the bigots of this country's time is coming to an end!

Posted by: BrooklynGirl | March 19, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

By refusing to disown a person who claims the U.S. governnment is responsible for the AIDs epidemic and the 9/11 attacks Senator Obama has sealed his electoral fate. He may prevail over Hilary for the Democratic Party nomination only because the bulk of delegates have been selected. He now has no chance to win the general election in November. He will carry 5 or 6 states at most. What a shame.

Posted by: Disappointed | March 19, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

By refusing to disown a person who claims the U.S. governnment is responsible for the AIDs epidemic and the 9/11 attacks Senator Obama has sealed his electoral fate. He may prevail over Hilary for the Democratic Party nomination only because the bulk of delegates have been selected. He now has no chance to win the general election in November. He will carry 5 or 6 states at most. What a shame.

Posted by: Disappointed | March 19, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Obama is the only chance this country has to energize people to believe they can make changes through the ballot. There is no other way to cause the perpetual officeholders and lifetime politicians reason to fear for their tenure.

It's past time for us to realize that the diet of junk news we've been getting from the media, the loud mouths and the talking heads is just that.

Barack Obama has leadership potential we haven't seen in decades.

He's not the only candidate who hears a bunch of bull from the pulpit.

Posted by: holm | March 19, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Would a journalist please report the obvious? Senator Obama lied when he said he never heard Reverend Wright anti-American speeches. His "Perfect Union Speech" was done once evidence surfaced that he had indeed witnessed such speeches. This is a fundamental flaw. Once these lies become a commercial add it's over for him.

Posted by: L | March 19, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who actually listened to the speech heard him talk about about not just racism against blacks but about reverse-racism against whites. He said the feelings for both are born out the economic struggle of all America's, regardless of race.

All out there who are dismissing Obama or condemning this speech should make sure they listen to the whole speech and not just the sound bytes you are getting from CNN/Fox etc..

Posted by: Karl | March 19, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Why has Barrack Hussein Obama spent the last 20 years as a member of a church that preaches hatred against white people if he desires to unite the country. The many untrue statements made by Wright are repulsive, ignorant and divisive.

I can see why Obama's wife has never been proud of America. She has been brain washed with Wright's ungodly and hateful speechs.

He is finished. He cannot lead both races. He is doomed to being a black leader and one who stands for racial divide.

Posted by: bill2010 | March 19, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

the topic in Sen. Obama's speech is the most controversial talk-point that a majority of americans do not want to talk about. after abolishing slavery, it's time to review this hot topic. let's be realistic and accept the fact that race in our country is a major issue that politicians or hilary clinton won't even dare touching it. barvo mr. obama!!!

Posted by: alex | March 19, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

An observation from Canada: Obama is the best hope for the US recovery of international standing and leadership. Petty attacks on him in this forum and at large are a regrettable lack of vision, and a poor judgement.

I watched the videos of his pastor and I saw anger against the system, not people. Few people would fail to see that the system has created and maintained divisions and inequalities. Those who do not see that, deserve living in America that declines economically and politically.

Posted by: Jurek | March 19, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA'S SPEECH: Very clever, but fundamentally dishonest. Although Obama can read a prepared speech off a teleprompter better than most, this speech was partially premised on a lie. What is the lie? THAT REV. WRIGHT INTRODUCED HIM TO CHRISTIANITY. The "theology" that Wright teaches at his church is nothing like Christianity as most people understand it. The brand of theology which Wright has been teaching Obama and the others at his church is called "black liberation theology." Wright admits this and it is stated on the church's website. Black theology is based upon the premise of the white oppressor against the black oppressed. This is why, for example, that Wright refers to Jesus as black, and his killers as white. This is the only way the story of Jesus fits within this brand of "theology." Rev. Wright cites James Cone, another proponent of black liberation theology, as his theological inspiration. Here are just a couple of James Cone's quotes: (1) "To be Christian is to be one of those whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people." (2) "While it is true that blacks do hate whites, black hatred is not racism." (3) "All white men are responsible for white oppression." (4) "Theologically, Malcolm X was not far wrong when he called the white man "the devil." (5) "If there is any contemporary meaning of the Antichrist, the white church seems to be a manifestation of it." *** These teachings are fundamentally racist and divisive. Obama has chosen to belong to this racist church for 20 years, and now because of exposure by the press, he tries to fool the American public once again. Yes, many of Obama's words were "inspiring", however, his 20 years of support for his racist and anti-American "mentor and spiritual adviser" speak much LOUDER. Obama must be honest with the voters about the true nature of his church, and why he supported racism and anti-Americanism for the last 20 years.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

It's clear from some of the comments that Obama will, if nothing else, embolden those who are racist to demonstrate their hatred and obstinately cling to business as usual, both in America and planet earth.

Posted by: Charles | March 19, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

So it looks like Obama is all about Race. If the shoes were being worn by a white man it would be considered racist. This looks like and smells like a cover up by the media elites. Obama gets a free pass look out America if you think the 60's were turbulent times you have seen nothing yet. Obama is the wolf dressed in sheeps clothing. Good by capitalism and hello to communism!

Posted by: Jimbo | March 19, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

racism exists in our society. we are all racist to a degree, and it is most important to be aware of our biases and prejudices to be able to address them and eliminate racism. we can say "we are not racist" - but the judgments we make our based on years and years of the reality of racism. it is most important to admit we all - black, white, brown - have to deal with recognizing our thoughts, words and actions, and make changes within ourselves.

Posted by: perspective | March 19, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

For those who insist we judge not by what a person says but rather by what he does ("Mr Obama recently gave a great speech and said all sorts of brave things - but he actually sat for twenty years listening to Mr Wrights drivel and did nothing.") - can't we give credit to Obama for judging his pastor by deeds and not words?

Why can't it be possible for Obama to judge his pastor by actions - and by all accounts, the man has done wonderful things - instead of by some sermons that go off the rails occasionally?

Posted by: n2 | March 19, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama's speech yesterday incites us all whether we like what he said or we didn't. Except for those who seek to continue selfish agendas on the the left and right side of the aisle I think that he had great courage in saying what he did in the way that he did. He did it knowing that elevating this issue to a stage where it is a part of our national dialogue could and most probably will kill his presidential chances, is a true example of leadership. Too bad the country isnt up for it.

Posted by: Prometheus | March 19, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Mali, perhaps he heard Wright say more than what you have heard.

Posted by: Joshua | March 19, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

The negative comments generated toward Senator Obama speech reflect mainly the instrinsic psique of the people. They will have to come to terms with their own mentality.

Posted by: Alma ludivina | March 19, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

..and yet no one has a problem with the Bush Administration having 150 graduates of Pat Robertson's low rated and just recently accredited law school working in the American government. You really want us to believe Obama is being scrutiized and persecuted in a way that we don't treat white candidates? get real

Posted by: frustrated | March 19, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

It has been said that it takes five miles to turn an aircraft carrier around, even after the captain gives the order. Our country took great strides in its civil rights legislation, as the co-captains of an authentically prophetic protest and a politically-awakened conscience of a great nation spoke the command together to turn our centuries-old heritage of overt racism around, but we have not fully crossed the five miles of ocean that will be required to swallow up the pains of past misunderstandings and the cross-generational effects of socioeconomic disadvantage, which yet leave so many in poverty and otherwise genuinely at-risk.

A problem with institutionalized racism and original-type sin is that no one is truly at fault or necessarily culpable, at least not to the extent that we can talk any longer of any particular sins of commission (for the most part). However, once we witness the intractability of lingering social injustices and inequalities, once we hear the voices of authentically prophetic protests, we are at-risk of sinning through omission and, make no mistake; we are exposed to guilt by association with institutions that Scott Peck would describe as having "sick identity structures." To remain exculpable, then, we must speak out and contribute to the healthful transformation of our institutions - social, economic, political and, yes, religious.

America IS beautiful. God HAS shed His grace on her. Those who cannot see this beauty are blind. However, those who cannot see her blemishes are equally blind. Somewhere between the polarizing forces of a shameful self-loathing anti-Americanism and a shameless nationalistic jingoism is an authentic self-critical patriotism. Before, however, we castigate those who suffer any degree of blindness to America's beauty, let us engage a prayerful and dutiful introspection to discern what we, ourselves, may have done to hide her beauty and light under a bushel basket. Before we excoriate those who are apparently blind to America's blemishes, let us look within our own hearts to discern whether or not we are truly in touch with the wellsprings of gratitude that should flow in response to the accident of our birth in the most prosperous and generous nation that civilization has ever grown. It is true that some still sleep, slumbering in the illusion of our separateness. There is a little of that in all of us, wounded and weary as the journey can make us. When we do speak intemperate words, however, they are not necessarily defining moments unless they are repetitively reinforcing moments, unless our actions of a lifetime betray our otherwise sanctimonious pretentions.

As a Catholics, I affirm a model of local church that does not overidentify (thank God, eh?) with its pastors and institutional hierarchy but which is, instead, defined by and invested in its families, its ministries, its social justice programs, its small faith communities, its catechists and prayer groups, its outreach to those in grief and those in need, its liturgical rhythms and communal fellowships, and a solidarity with a church universal and a Body of Christ, mystical. The same can be said for the Trinity United Church of Christ.

So, when we read the mission statements and explications of the Trinity United Church of Christ, we won't see an overt racism (except, perhaps, as a reflection of our own inner dispositions, which might say more about us than anyone else). Rather, we might experience a deep inner resonance and heartfelt solidarity with a journey that is both our own and not our own, seeing a difference in the oceans we have crossed, the chains we have worn and the sorrows we have borne, to be sure, but experiencing, at a deeper level, the redemptions we have known, the salvations and resurrections we have owned and looking, together, to the One, Who is the Author and Finisher of the work that will one day awaken us all to the depthful reality of our joyful and loving sisterhood and brotherhood.

Posted by: Johnboy from new Orleans | March 19, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Obviously, based upon the comments preceding mine, this country has a terrible problem with both race and religion. Of the three remaining candidates Obama best represents the kind of leader that would provide our country the greatest opportunity to move on to a better future. I must admit real concern about some of the attitudes presented in the previous comments. I suspect that such Archie Bunker type thinking is proof positive that our education system is broken and that many adherents to various religious ideologies are not learning to be open and accepting to differing points of view.

I truly hope that Obama becomes our next president.

Posted by: Nik | March 19, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I attend Trinity United Church of Christ as well. I was raised in an all black community. I never had any hostility against white people, but when I came to Chicago for college that changed. For the first time I felt racism and the benign neglect of the discrimination people of color still face. I became angry at white America. When I went to Trinity, it helped me process that anger, and now I am not angry at white people any more. I know that my anger is not going to bring about social justice. That is what I've learned from Dr. Wright. He has changed my life. Dr. Right is not a racist. Most of my friends are white and they love when they come to that church! You must come and see for your self. This church is one of the few churches that has stayed committed to its community. His is not teaching the slave masters religion. He is helping Blacks and all people take responsibility for the condition of our world. It is racists that are portraying him that what. The come to our church and sit up and film him for these reason when he dedicated his life to helping all people transcend there current trails and tribulations. I pray for him and his family. I pray for Barack and his family, because God know that Hillary or Mccain dont have defend their white priveledge.

Posted by: DemetriusUpchurch | March 19, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm eighty plus years, a WWII veteran, caucasian, and hold a doctorate. I agree with all that Rev. Wright said (I don't know about the AIDs). We refuse to look at our past and present objectively!

Posted by: toolucky | March 19, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

There is no analogy to be made between his grandmother and his pastor. He had no choice but to put up with his grandmother. He could have walked away from his pastor at anytime. There are many places he could have recieved spiritual guidance. There are many, many churches that DO NOT promote hate and support a preacher who claims the government created AIDS to wipe out his race etc. The fact that he DID NOT seek alternative sources for moral guidance speaks VOLUMES.

Posted by: Fred | March 19, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

after Obama's speech, there are many bigot & racist appears. Which is good because it confirms and proves: race discrimination is still strong in America and no one have the courage to confront, deal and fix the problem. Obama lost the chance of presidency due to this problem and due to American ignorance.

This country is moving backward; don't be wonder why America lost its world respect and reputation and the world view American is ugly.

American deserve and get what they put in => garbage in, garbage out.

Posted by: Katy | March 19, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Here is the Debate we need to be having .................................... When you consider the Trade Deficit thats happening , from the WTO TRADE Agreement , and the fact that the Clinton Administration was advised that it could result in the out come that it has , then why did they not renegotiated it ??????? When you read the way the donations were at the center of tons of tax payer paid Investigations , that now , today we are handed the Deficits of the Results of a Trade Policy that was considered Flawed from the start , and Now these Deficits , are going to be the Result of Higher Taxes , to pay for the Mistakes in this trade policy , and couple that with the Loss in SS and Medicare Payments this Trade Policy has cost US Citizens , because if we would have made all the products we consumed over this 14 years of trade policy , we would have paid a deduction on every product that we made and sold , from the wage deductions , that would have paid and balanced the SS and Medicare systems , rather than nothing being paid on all those products imported Tariff Free , with no way to balance out the gap in this trade Deficit , unless some kind of deduction is taken from the Tariff Free Imported Product to pay for the loss to our programs , like SS and medicare wage deductions are done , it is now going to cause the people of the USA a higher taxation to pay for this mess of Debt , and We the tax paying People of the United States of America did not get to agree to this out come when it was passed , and Now we get to pay for the failure ??? Is this what we call taxation without Representation in the land of the FREE , while the Corporate Multi-Nationals , get the benefit of this Trade policy and the ones who wrote them , by the way the Investigations here appear to tell a story of who wanted the Trade Policy by the way they tried to donate their funds to campaigns??????????????????? , see here ; this is a form of fascism , is it not ??

Justice Department Investigation

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/campfin/background.htm

Corporate Tyrants of the Fascist NAFTA trade Agreement

February 16, 2000 Issue Brief #137 http://www.epi.org/content.cfm/issuebriefs_ib137

The High Cost of the China-WTO Deal
Administration's own analysis suggests spiraling deficits, job losses

" We got to get Beyond these differences , so we can progress as a people , or we Lose as a people " .

The issues of race in American reflects what is causing the struggles in the whole world , while the Business of product trade is the New Segregation , by the way Trade Agreements have been drafted to benefit only a Few , at the expense of the many , in their Freedoms , their Health , and Financially , we can debate this truthfully , as we see our Deficits swell beyond Belief .

The indirect causes of hatred can be connected to ones Greed of power and manipulation , and we should all be a more Unified Body when we draft our ways of Business , so the masses are allowed a better tomorrow . If this were not the case then why are we seeing such Deficits , such turmoil in the way people feel about each other , there is a driver that causes these feeling , and these fundamentals to emerge , and its going to take a president thats more unifying , in the ability to be a person of many Voices in the World , in order to bring more unity for a peaceful world to co-exist .

We cannot continue to rally support for Progress in the world if we don't find a way to Come More Together in our Country , thats a image of the world as a whole .

When I watch the news networks , its like they want these conflicts to continue , instead of being a leading force to speak out and say things like " We got to get Beyond these differences , so we can progress as a people , or we Lose as a people " .

Posted by: AJ in Mesa | March 19, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

It was historic speech, one to be compared to Martin Luther king or JFK. Obama is a visionary. He'll lead this nation to greatness." He touches every American family.

God bless! Thank you Mr. Obama

Posted by: Melkam | March 19, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Why did Obama associate with Wright for 20 years? and not confront him?

There are reasonable inferences that one can draw in trying to answer those questions. And the ones that seem to come most readily and naturally to mind, for most folks, would not shed a favorable light on either his formative spiritual and religious influences or on his judgment, broadly considered. Confounding, eh?

In addition to those inferences, though, there is the reality of his life story and of his demeanor and deportment in interrelating with other people --- from his college years, volunteer years, law school years, as a constitutional law professor, as a state legislator, as a United States Senator and as a candidate for POTUS, who participated in 20 debates, many nationally televised. He has also issued forth with thousands upon thousands of both printed and spoken words, in autobiographical books and extemporaneous stump speeches.

The realities of those words and of those decades of human interrelating reveal a man of great character and tremendous depth, who knows both the demands and the bounds of charity and gives voice to the best aspirations of the human spirit. Those realities were amplified, today, in what will surely turn out to be an historical landmark of a speech on race relations in our country.

At the same time, for many, that speech did little to dispel the types of inferences that many folks have drawn regarding his association with his pastor, who's apparently a man of great contradiction in that his occasionally hateful rhetoric stands in the starkest of contrasts to his growth and nurturance and overseeing of an expansive and vibrant social justice ministry?

I can only imagine that, inasmuch as Obama was an adult convert to the faith (any faith at all, much less any particular denomination), his Mother (even as a secular humanist) and Grandmother were the true formative spiritual influences on Obama, instilling their values and shaping his character. He was, then, already an anonymous Christian (bad ecumenical term, I know) and Wright's role was not one of fostering Obama's intellectual, emotional, moral and sociopolitical conversions (Lonergan), conversions which had, apparently, already taken hold and were advanced far beyond many of his fellow congregants in the pews.

Wright's role was not even one of gifting Obama with Christianity, in substance (for he was already a man of implicit faith), but was one of providing him with a vehicle to perfect his faith by inviting him to make it explicitly Christian. And the social justice ministries, which were the magnet that introduced and attracted Obama to Wright's church, provided Obama the vehicle for the concrete expression of his faith and values. And those ministries, and the community fellowship that always accompanies them, probably spoke louder than the Loud Mouth in the Pulpit?

Should Obama have confronted Wright or left that church community? Maybe so, maybe not. This doesn't make any difference to a supermajority of people, who, in my view, are right. Might there have been compelling reasons to remain, anyway? Why doesn't the conservative punditry employ their overactive imaginations in offering such reasons to the same extent that they can so easily imagine what the insidious things Obama's association with Wright could possibly (to them: most certainly) mean? There can be little doubt that his presence there had a transformative effect on those around him insofar as he obviosuly transcended such vitriolic rhetoric?

There are many ways to speak truth to authority & power, not all directly confrontational. More evangelization has taken place in the history of humankind from the way people have lived and moved and had their being in relationship to others than has ever taken place through either the spoken or written word.

At any rate, on one hand, we have the realities of Obama's words, deeds and interrelationships from over the decades. On the other hand, we have the inferences people can justifiably draw from his association with Wright. When it comes to prudential judgment, I give more weight to the overwhelming evidence of the clear and concrete realities that are already well established about Obama and less weight to the muddled and imaginative speculative inferences about him, which lose impetus precisely because they run so counter to known realities, which, sometimes, reflect a whole lot more about the political tone and tenor of the persons drawing them than they do of Obama, himself.

Posted by: Johnboy from New Orleans | March 19, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Mali,

Don't believe the hype. Why would anyone complain about someone who wants to come to a diplomatic conclusion to the Iranian problem? Warmongering isn't a sign of being a good patriot. It's a sign of being too unintelligent to find the 'right' answer.

And as for Israel, maybe they should take a look in the mirror before they accuse Iran of 'nazi-ism'. Those who live in glass houses...

Posted by: SomeGuy | March 19, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

It's my impression that Obama's speech was well received by people of good will on all sides of the isle, democrats, republicans and independents. This speech was not intended for knuckleheads. So WHY alternate comments from "people of good will" and "knuckleheads equally.. as though 50% of readers are FOR and 50% against?

Posted by: Mike | March 19, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Oi, Why can't racists see their racism? It is like a blind person who does not want to have their vision restored.

Posted by: zenon duda | March 19, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse


I have read the report of the comments and the comments on the comments which have come before mine.

I have not noticed any reporting or any commentary on I believe has been missed in much of the MSM coverage of the Presidential Primaries in general and the Reverend Wright issue, in particular.

Are we becoming a "sound bite" society?

Are our intellectual interest and our curiosity acceptably fulfilled by only a miniscule amount of facts?

How do "sound bites" impact our abilities to make sound judgments?

And, if "sound bites" are our "new" reality, does this "new" reality reflect a "dummying down" of our critical analyses of events and issues?

Let's address the Reverend Wright issue.

Can anyone of any intellectual capacity accept or judge any individual based upon a few "sound bites" that does NOT in any way, reflect or encapsulate 30 years worth of sermons, WITHOUT surrendering their critical analysis?

If any one of us is SO perfect, that somewhere in the course of our own lives, we would not both inwardly and outwardly cringe at a 30 or 60 second "sound bite" played and replayed of some of our less than Sterling moments?

One of my personal largest gripes about news coverage these days is that it is more and more trending to tabloid fodder versus sound, investigative reporting and analysis.

This American does NOT appreciate the "dummying down" of information and reporting of the "news" and if it were not for the Internet where I can research & read to make my own analysis.

For this reader, "sound bites" are just that and do not constitute the news. MUCH LESS using sound bites to JUDGE another humanbeing.

I can reflect on my own life and realize that there have been moments I certainly wouldn't want to relive in 30 or 60 second sound bites. Each commenter would have to consider that for themselves.

For me, today I heard in total what was and will be the most definitive and perhaps historical speech on race relations that we have ever been offered. It was honest and from the heart.

Senator Obama was and is asking us to see the real grievances of race as a divisive issue which KEEPS us from improving our country's ecomony, jobs, education, position on the war and yes, look at our own prejudices that keep us from UNITING and OVERCOMING our divisions to become the BEST that we can be - like we came together after 911.

For me, it was TRULY inspiring!

How each of us chooses to view it, judge it, is entirely up to us but I trust ALL Americans to come to that decision based upon MORE than "sound bites".

For those interested in what else Rev. Wright might have said there is a link which follows for reading:

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/for-the-record.html

Posted by: Dari | March 19, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I see the bigots wake early in this country.

Posted by: Maria | March 19, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA STANDS BEHIND SPIRITAL ADVISOR WRIGHT!
"Wright is like an uncle you love and respect"
Rather than break ties with his demagogic, anti-American pastor, Barack Obama used a speech on race to excuse his behavior and sweep the controversy under the rug. Passing the buck is not very presidential. In a major speech Tuesday, Obama condemned the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's shocking verbal assaults against the U.S. dating back to 2001. but in April of last year, Obama was quick to demand Imus' ouster for making a racially insensitive remark.
How does Obama consider someone a Mentor and friend for 20 years and not know their hateful racist values and character? Obama said he had no plans to leave the South Side church. Wright is like an uncle you love and respect! he highly respects the opinions of Rev. Wright said Obama, who brings hope to many and agrees with giving the man of year award to the notorious Louis Farrakhan. Nation of Islam Minister who said we are witnessing the phenomenal rise of a man of color in a country that has persecuted us! Obama hasn't distanced himself from Farraklhan as he wants the media to believe. A number of Jewish and pro-Israel voters have concerns and raised questions about Barack Obama. In case you haven't followed this ongoing issue, here's a brief summary of the complaints:Obama has called for engaging Iran. Daniel Ayalon, Israel's former ambassador to the United States, told the New York Sun he is concerned Obama would want to negotiate with a "Hitler-like" regime. Some of Obama's policy advisors of various stripes, such as Samantha Power, Robert Malley, and Zbigniew Brzezinski, have come under attack for their views on Israel. World Jewish Congress President Ronald Lauder fears, it's only a matter of time before the president becomes anti-Israel Howard Friedman, the president of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, said the leading presidential candidate are all interested in continuing close ties with Israel. Obama in traditional muslim garb brought these questions back to the fore Obama is a closet Muslim. Obama hasn't distanced himself from Farraklhan as he wants the media to believe, Obamas and his church said Farrakhan "epitomized greatness. For Americans, Farrakhan epitomizes racism, particularly in the form of anti-Semitism. Over the years, he has compiled an awesome record of offensive statements, even denigrating the Holocaust by falsely attributing it to Jewish cooperation with Hitler "They helped him get the Third Reich on the road." His history is a rancid stew of lies. Any praise of Farrakhan heightens the prestige of the leader of the Nation of Islam. His anti-Semitism and particularly his false insistence that Jews have played an inordinate role in victimizing African Americans. Farrakhan's dream has vilified whites and singled out Jews to blame for crimes large and small. He talks of Jewish conspiracies to set a media line for the whole nation. He has reviled Jews in a manner that brings Hitler to mind. And yet Obama and Rev Wright heaped praise on Farrakhan. He applauds his "depth of analysis when it comes to the racial ills of this nation." He praised "his integrity and honesty." He called him "an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose." These words of the black man who touts change and claims to be a uniter of all people? DO NOT VOTE FOR OBAMANATION!

Posted by: mali | March 19, 2008 10:26 AM | Report abuse

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