What Hillary did for feminism: hurt its cause, since now whenever a woman runs for office, we have to worry about cries of misogyny and sexism rather than admitting and accepting that she lost fair and square. Let's be clear: any man who would have behaved like her in the same circumstances would have been completed grilled by the media. Hillary got off lightly, and we still hear whining and crying from her supporters. There is an old saying, "You judge a man by not how he behaves when he wins, but how he behaves when he loses." If women want to advance their cause, they need to start saying "You judge a woman by not how she behaves when she wins, but by how she behaves when she loses." There are women out there that are much better people than Hillary. Unfortunately, their chance at getting into the oval office has decreased because of Hillary's behavior and especially that of her supporters.

"It's about time he gets attacked in the press!"

Are you really that dumb to just keep on saying what Clinton says without thinking at all?

Obama's negative publicity has been prominent. For example, Rev. Jeremiah Wright dominated headlines for weeks, and how often have we heard about Obama's "inexperience" (often referred to as "junior senator" and "naive")?

I hope McCain slams him! It's about time he gets attacked in the press!

That's true. Everyone just hears, "CHANGE", and "HOPE", but NO real steps as to how that's going to happen, because he's never had a real plan, just a lot of hot air. But what is really worrisome about this inexperienced newcomer (even American?), is his Islamic background and upbringing, and all the other truths about him. He is not all he appears...

I hope now that Hillary is out of everyone's Bullseye to attack, poor girl, that McCain will let Obama have it! Exposure, that is. He's had a pretty free ride, with poor Hillary taking all the attacks, and especially on the late night shows, where they are particularly brutal and horrible to her, but not a disparaging comment on Obama! So now, it's a man against a man, and I truly hope the truth comes out about him, that's all over the web, or in the e-book, "Exposing Obama", stating the FACTS little known about him.

I hope now that Hillary is out of everyone's Bullseye to attack, poor girl, that McCain will let Obama have it! Exposure, that is. He's had a pretty free ride, with poor Hillary taking all the attacks, and especially on the late night shows, where they are particularly brutal and horrible to her, but not a disparaging comment on Obama! So now, it's a man against a man, and I truly hope the truth comes out about him, that's all over the web, or in the e-book, "Exposing Obama", stating the FACTS little known about him.

Whites in this country have always been racist in general.

Sexism, however, only became an issue when Hillary got her butt kicked in 12 straight states.

After watching both McCain's and Obama's speeches on TV Tuesday night, McCain no less than NEEDS to run Alaska Gov Sarah Palin as his VP mate.

To some extent, racist and gender attitudes can be discerned from the statistics.
If 80 to 90 percent of black people in a primary district vote for Obama, does that indicate racial bias?
If a vote comes closer to a 50-50 split, that would show a lack of bias.
I have noticed that both candidates show persons of both races and genders in the audience around and behind them in television appearances.

To some extent, racist and gender attitudes can be discerned from the statistics.
If 80 to 90 percent of black people in a primary district vote for Obama, does that indicate racial bias?
If a vote comes closer to a 50-50 split, that would show a lack of bias.
I have noticed that both candidates show persons of both races and genders in the audience around and behind them in television appearances.

This needs to be said again:

Stanton and all women -- both black and white -- were stabbed in the back by Male abolitionists who decided to abandon the JOINT campaign they had up unitl then run for EQUAL voting rights.

Get your history right. I stopped reading when I realized that this was just another slanted BS revisionist rant.

Women had to wait another 50 years and were drivers and hard workers in the later civil rights campaigns, once again putting womens' rights on hold for MEN. Thank you for your support.

And furthermore, what cause would be given for Black women to be jealous of any race of women let alone White women? Black women are proud of who they are regardless of shape, size, skin tone, etc... What a racist sentiment to even attempt to imagine such a concept. If there was any truth to what LBJ so akwardly spoke of he would know that during slavery and pre-Civil Rights that, that mentality of choosing light skinned Blacks over dark was a precondition set upon us by slavery when they seperated the light slaves from the dark slaves. You can't find a Black woman who believes that because a sister is dark she is not a s beautiful as a light skinned one. I personally find dark skin EXTREMELY attractive, as a Black man. So whatever fairly tale book of non-facts you THINK you learned about my people from you need to shove it where the sun don't shine.

It amazes me that so many of you who post here have the AUDACITY to state that "Whites were OK with giving Blacks their rights..." "We gave the blacks their rights and respect, how about going back and giving women their rights and respect..." No I STRONGLY disagree, while White voting Americans may have given BACK our rights it was God who envoked them upon us from the beginning. Had they not been taken away there would have been no reason to "give" anything back!! This new ideology of "reverse racism" is sickening. And to state because we Blacks finally have a candidate that we can believe in, and we overwhelmingly rally behind him, is not "reverse racism" it is strong political support. Maybe if so many of you over the top dormant racists would use your brain and THINK and consider why if any anger is harbored to Whites by Blacks you would be able to understand rationally instead of moronically. jerks!!

Has anyone considered what would have happened if Bill Clinton had a son running for president instead of his wife? It seems that everyone has forgotten that one of the initial concerns behind this election was the Bush-Clinton flip-flopping dynasty. Where is the argument that Clinton didn't lose the race because of her gender, but because of her name?

On second thought, I feel the need to address the following as well.

LBJ wrote: "Because in the black society, they have a curious 'class' system, that they themselves created, that makes a woman more attractive the 'whiter' or 'brighter' or (sometimes said) 'redder' she is. And the blacker skin she has, the blacks themselves put her down! It's too funny! But all women, being vain, always want to be the most attractive. And black women know that they will never be white."

It is true that in the past black society has placed an emphasis on skin color (the lighter one was, the more positively one was viewed). This system was bound up in the slavery and post-Emancipation eras--the reasoning being that if one had a lighter complexion, one was more likely to "pass" as white, and thus be treated better.

What LBJ failed to bring up was the movement (beginning in the 1970s) to redefine beauty in a way that embraced black people's physical features and qualities. It was from this movement that the popularity of hairstyles such as the "afro" arose. As a whole, the black community was consciously acknowledging two things:

1. That the common (read: white) standard of beauty would never bestow value upon us as we are, without a struggle and

2. That, in order to learn to value ourselves, we would have to redefine what it meant to be beautiful on our own terms.

This movement continues today and its effects can be seen everywhere. The beauty of many black men and women of fame and prominence is something that can be agreed upon by people of all races and nationalities. Decades ago, admitting attraction to a black man or woman would have earned a white person ridicule and possibly alienation. Now it is increasingly rare to hear someone called a "n***er-lover". Such is the power of the black beauty movement.

Yes, I know that I will never be white. Thankfully, I was born in an era that taught me that I didn't have to be in order to have value as a human being. Because of this, when I say that I'll never be a white woman, I can follow up the statement by saying that neither do I wish to be one.

I will assert one thing and one thing only: speaking as a black woman, I do not, and never have, harbored hatred for white women.

To Scott D and LBJ: despite the fact that you are espousing the sort of myths that encourage fear and segregation and discourage understanding and unity between our races, I don't hate you, either.

Some of these comments make my skin crawl-
notably Celested9 who refers to Obama as an "unqualified Sambo." Ich!!!
I am also upset by the way HRC was treated in the course of this campaign by the media, her opponent, and many others. Regardless of the number of votes she has gotten & her accomplished resume, this country is not yet ready for a woman President AND it is still open season on women in terms of negative commentary [can you say, "Bros before Hos", Sweetie, "when the claws come out," & on & on...in fact too much by too many to name]. Even frat boy extradinaire Chris Mathews has admitted that if we were tslking about Bernice Obama w/the same exact resume, "Bernice" would not even get close to becoming the next President.
We need a real dialogue about race & gender, a real one and a respectful one otherwise that pink elephant in the living room that we all feed & cean up after will just get bigger & bigger.

This election is making it increasingly clear that the "civil" in this civilization does not come from the liberal portion of our population.

LBJ,

Thanks for your comment:

I only skimmed this book online but you can read more about Black Racism here:

Black Pride and Black Prejudice (Hardcover)
by Paul M. Sniderman (Author), Thomas Piazza (Author)

I don't think we are ready for a Black president until they
1. Acknowledge their racism
2. Work onridding themselves of it.
3. Present a candidate who is not consumed with racist ideas or connections.

We have to be realistic here. Do we really want Black racist leaders and electorate?

There's a reason, beyond her simply being a woman, that the feminist movement, by and large, rallies behind Hillary Clinton. She's THE woman who's been the prime target of the anti-feminist backlash, ever since appearing on the national scene more than 16 years ago.

It IS true that black women are (secretly) hating white women. A lot of it stems behind the fact that today, blacks can get anything that white people can get, but they can never be white. And that infuriates them, especially the women. Because in the black society, they have a curious "class" system, that they themselves created, that makes a woman more attractive the "whiter" or "brighter" or (sometimes said) "redder" she is. And the blacker skin she has, the blacks themselves put her down! It's too funny! But all women, being vain, always want to be the most attractive. And black women know that they will never be white. But it's too bad in a Presidential election, that there is this "reverse" prejudice of blacks against whites. People don't talk about that too much, it's always the other way around. But don't be fooled! Blacks have as much, or more, prejudice against white people, as the other way around. Actually, most white people aren't very prejudiced these days, we've already fought that battle, and are OK with giving the blacks their rights in every category. It's the blacks who are secretly prejudiced, because that has never been fought out in the open. Hillary has never done anything to blacks, but support them. Back in the Revolution, of Civil Rights, she was one of the prime supporters of blacks getting their rights. And now they are turning on her! It's sickening. She needs to be treated decently and be truly supported for her well-thought-out solutions for our dire issues. Grow up, people!

Yes!!!

"Maybe they should switch to individualism and merit. I doubt they will because they are socialist.

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You nailed it. And funnily enough, that is exactly why I am for Hillary.

i have a bad feeling that once senator obama is elected into the white house.he will not outlived his term.there are a lot of people who don't want to see him there.

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No worries Lilly.....won't happen because he won't be elected.

So, don't worry.

WHAT!!!Black women have a hatred of white women? Where are you getting this? There has to be a term for this: paranoid racism? Everyone is out to get Hillary because she's white? That's a new one.

I am a White male and believe that women, and Hillary Clinton, were treated poorly during this campaign and have a right to rebel. There has never been a candidate that has been cut down so early and so frequently by their own party, not to mention MSM and former "loyal" FOBs. In addition to sexism I believe there is a racist component to Hillary Bashing. Watching the rules committee meeting I noticed that many of the leaders are Black women. It is a well-known fact that many (most?) Black women have a hatred for White women. Most evident was when Blacks cheered OJ for killing a White woman. The Democratic, Black, Elites, of the party were more than happy to cut Hillary down every chance they could get. The morally supine White Democrats went along with Hillary bashing because they are tinged with guilt and have been trained to believe that everything Black is right. All fair Democrats should consider dumping the Democrats in '08. Say NO to racism and sexism!!!

So sick.... It is sickening to keep hearing those who would not call themselves racially insensitive to quote the 90% of blacks for Obama. Blacks vote 90% for Democrats in the national elections so please lets let this issue die. Hillary did not run a smart contest and it was only when they went negative did she make progress. The fact that the Clintons could manipulate the mindset of many to believe she has been held back because she is a woman is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard! She lost because of bad strategy and execution! There is no need to make a race or gender issue out of this point! it seems American's for all their bluster cannot have open minds... Sad in this day and age! This is not a race versus gender issue and Hillary should be ashamed of using gender as a whipping stick.

I would like to see a Black man in office, but not this Black man, at least not yet. Obama does not have experience yet to lead this great nation. When Obama loses to McCain in Nov., he should run for Illinois Governor and run for president again in 2012, or 2016. At that time we can see how, and if, Obama can govern. I am skeptical that a Senator is the best person for the job of president. The same goes for Clinton and McCain, but that is all we are being offered and Obama has so many more uncertainties than either of them. I am a liberal Democrat yet think McCain is the best candidate at this time. He is moderate, bipartisan, with strong leadership qualities, and military background. The USA is a great and imperial nation, and the decision to elect a president is a serious one, not to offered to the most handsome, or most popular....certainly not one the Democratic party is trying to shove down our throats.

I don't think the issue people the Clinton supporters have is with whether racism is more influential than sexism (though some have made that comment, certainly). At least for me, the question is why for a year now, we've been having conversations about how racism would and did affect this primary, but we're only now starting to have legitimate conversations regarding the role of sexism.

I am amazed at the revisionist history here. (Or does the Post regularly employ columnists so ignorant of things they write about?) In point of fact, the early feminists, Lucretia Mott, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony, etc., worked very hard on behalf of the slaves as abolitionists, and it was WOMEN who were abandoned by the abolitionists when it came time for suffrage. [Note who got suffrage first.] William Llyod Garrison and co. decided to work at getting suffrage only for former male slaves, abandoning efforts to obtain suffrage for women at the same time. If the women were less than enthusiastic about this turn of events, as evidenced by their comments, keep in mind that the delay was for over 50 years, and many of the women who worked so hard did not live to see women's suffrage a reality. I understand Shankar Vedantam is trying to make a point but please try to avoid "bushing" the argument by making up facts to fit.

It is absolutely horrifying the way the media has ridiculed and tormented Hillary, and not Obama. They even make fun of her facial expressions, her looks, her laugh, and even make little dolls out of her doing nasty things! And these are by our "entertainment shows"! What if that had been done to precious Obama? He has suffered NO media abuse! It all boils down to hatred of women! And everyone these days is SO afraid of offending a black person! Mainly because they not only stand up for themselves, but come back violently! But it's OK to verbally harm and ridicule a well-mannered, intelligent lady like Ms. Clinton! The double-standard makes me sick. American should be SO ASHAMED of itself, and make public apologies to Ms. Clinton. What if someone did that to your mother or sister? I thought that we had evolved past such abuse to women, America. We gave the blacks their rights and respect, how about going back and giving women their rights and respect?

dep said "And that's the same answer as above... But let me ask you when there was a viable Black candidate, unless he was a Republican, when has Black voters ever chose to go with the White candidate over the Black one??? Or put another way can you name one community in the U.S.
that has a Black majority and yet has voted in a White person to represent them? "

I would presume the percentage to be higher than that where a majority white district has voted to have a non-white person represent them as for example we have only had 3 African-American senators in our nation's history. We must be careful to render visible what is the invisible -- that of white privilege in America. Simply because someone says they don't vote along racial lines or race isn't overtly represented in the conversation (usually when the subject matter is that of white people. i.e. We don't have these conversations about white candidates who are almost always voted on by their white constituents) does not mean that race wasn't a part of the equation.

The people who screetch most about "sexism" are white college educated women, the pampered children of upper middle and upper class families. The people we hear from most about racism are black and poor, the decendents of people who were hung or beaten to death for just looking at one of those spoiled white women. Moreover, those "victims of sexism" are the women who take affirmative action set aside jobs and training from the genuine victims of racism. I'm Native American, a computer programmer, who once upon a time applied for a job with our local government (Lane County, Oregon). The white females who interviewed me came right out in the interview and said they were only hiring women candidates and I only got an interview becasue I was their token minority. In spite of 20 years experience, they hired a young white feminist. This didn't make much sense at the time. Now it does. The chief proponents, the perpetuators of racism and bigotry are feminists of a certain sort, the Clinton feminists. If we genuinely want to get over racism one thing we must do is remove "female" from the list of affirmative action benefit class. These feminists are the worst enemy minorities have today.

Read my lips: This race is over. After the DNC, it is over. A candidate will be nominated in just a few days. Tim Russert commented that the reason why there are still uncommitted delegates is for this reason: Out of respect for Hillary Clinton. He stated that these superdelegates, out of respect, will allow Hillary to finish running her race, but this week, she will have to bow out gracefully, or risk ruining her whole career. This is Tim Russert, a man that Bill Clinton called a mathematical genius when he predicted Bill Clinton's nomination in the 90's. The delegates that have not committed are just waiting it out until this week, then they will flock (this is coming out of several news channels) to Obama. Hillary supporters who are the loudest, jumping and screaming, are too delusional. This does not show well with how us women act in such an important race as this.

I give up. I see why the world disses us and laughs. We base everything race and gender. When will we grow up. And what about this working class white people crap. What blacks are not considered working class?

fr Shawn Brody:

>...Sadly, we might have the inexperienced, though persuasive man as our President, and it will probably prove to be a tragedy. ..

We've got one now, and I can't wait until the front door swings SHUT on georgie porgie as Resident for the last time!

Thank-God someone of significance is backing this very, very qualified worker for the people! She was also endorsed by 34 AMERICAN GENERALS OF OUR MILITARY! I wish that video could have been on television. It's on the web, and SO needed, for intelligent, active people endorsing her. Most people are missing these endorsements, and missing her points entirely. Sadly, we might have the inexperienced, though persuasive man as our President, and it will probably prove to be a tragedy. This is NOT the time to learn on the job! It is all over the internet, of proven, researched reports of his "shady" background with "shady" people, for many, many years. There is speculation about who initially backed him, and planned his "perfectly laid out" campaign. What if these reports are true, and this man is a golden-tongued plant against America? At least we know that Hillary and McCain are true-blue Americans! But perhaps she will win in Montana and South Dakota, and take it all the way to the convention, and come out the winner! If she does not, I hope that there will be no fear of showing Obama's true colors, when pitched against McCain. But Thank-God for intelligent supporters of her.

Boy, is the rest of the world receiving the biggest clown show on the face of this earth!

Every candidate will have some people on staff and supporters throwing mud at the other candidate. That is just a fact, but I would have voted for Hillary, if she did not say some of the most divisive statements and behaving like men owe her something. She began the talk on unfair treatment to her because she is a woman. She became a woman's worse nightmare, a whiner. Barack tried to not get into race, until the media and the leeches brought it to his doorstep. His motive was to rise above race, and run as a candidate who happens to be black. He did not whine the whole yellow brick road saying "Ohhh, white people made me do this, they did not treat me good, that is why I can not win"> No, that is Hillary's strategy. In this kind of race, women (I am a proud strong woman by the way), you need to roll with the punches, and if a man tries to get in your time, stop moping and whining, and say "Awwww that is unfair", beat them at their own game. That is what Barack is doing. We women are just sad, and we are making ourselves look like we can't handle running a country with all kinds of people living in it. If she becomes president, she will have to deal will countries who seem women as nothing but second class citizens, is she going to whine about the "Men's Club"? Or will she put that mouth to better use. It does not look like it.

Her husband, which I fault first before I would even lay blame on Hillary, referred to Obama in terms steeped in racial tones. I have heard many times in the past that the Cintons would do anything to win. I just thought this was the hard right throwing a temper tantrum, until now. Remember, African Americans had given Bill Clinton the title of first "black" president. That says a lot, since many black people feel that very few people of another race can truly relate to their historical experience. So, for Bill and Hillary to come up with some of the most vicious, often under-handed, attacks and words (which does bring up the ugly head of racism....remember the Jesse Jackson comment made by Bill?)...that actually created an exodus of black americans to side with Obama...it is not just because Obama had proven that he could win. Blacks were willing to give up a comfort zone of voting for a white candidate (especially one who is the wife of their "used to be" favorite president, besides Kennedy) to take a chance on an African American one.

In this country, even though a black person may be "well loved" if they are going for a position of power, and look like they will win it..there is a fear that comes in. There has always been a fear of a black candidate as a prime assassination target..even though it sounds extreme and silly, that is a historical fear among blacks in this country. MLK was assassinated and two Kennedy's who looked like they were working with blacks to help them gain equality. All assassinated within a lifetime ago.

For Hillary to even breathe assassination as a way to justify that "anything" can happen in an election....she knew what she was saying...as close to "black people" as her husband was...she knew this fear among black people of a black candidate getting assassination. If she was someone else other than a Clinton, then I would say...maybe she did not know..but the wife of the "first black president"...she would know a little something about those fears. I feel she is just a devious woman..and her supporters, acting up like they did in Florida...I can't say much about them either...they are just hateful.

I too would like to see a woman in the White House. But not that woman. She is a liar and a role-player...let's wait until an ethical one comes along.

Prime example, Cardin v. Steele in Maryland. Black voters chose the White Democrat over the Black Republican.

I keep hearing the issue that black people vote for BO because he is black. I will try to strike this down everywhere I see it.
First: a few blacks have run for before and they did not necessarily get the black vote.
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To answer: That's because the few Blacks who have run before like say Jesse, have had NO chance to win. And no one regardless of race wants to waste their vote...

Second: Blacks have been voting for white males for ever.
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And that's the same answer as above... But let me ask you when there was a viable Black candidate, unless he was a Republican, when has Black voters ever chose to go with the White candidate over the Black one??? Or put another way can you name one community in the U.S.
that has a Black majority and yet has voted in a White person to represent them?

Third: Hillary started this campaign with a lead among blacks over Obama.

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Yes she did because in the beginning people didn't think Obama could win. But after he won in Iowa Blacks left Hillary in droves. Now since Hillary's and Obama's positions are almost the same how do you explain the mass exodus from Hillary to Obama if it wasn't because of his race???

This is a historical moment. Obama will be the nominee and our next President. He will change the world.
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Can't we all just get along. This is the reason we have so much violence on tv because their is an audiance that want to see it. Love thy neighbor does not apply to most people and the end result is chaos and distruction. Im just sitting back watching how people put their problems on others, I see total distruction of human life by war and crime in 20 years.

So, there are people who will vote for Obama because, and only because, he is African American. Likewise, there are people who will vote for Hillary because, and only because, she is a woman. How is that not also racism, and sexism?

"Madame President" is not a reasoned argument.
I cannot understand why our supporters who went to Florida to fight for their right to have their votes counted would engage in such a stupid spectacle. I for one, felt sickened and betrayed by the morons who started that chant. This was not the time nor the place for such sentiment. I felt the gallery in Florida on Saturday was not the best representation of Hillary's supporters and I denounce the "madame President" chanters.

It is because of people like that that Hillary will lose a nearly sure bet to be the Democratic Nominee. Too many hands in the pot have spoiled the stew. I will support Obama in November, but I feel the Nation has missed a great opportunity to have a really hard working, intelligent, and nuanced President in 2009.

I wish many of Hillary's supporters had stayed home or kept their mouths shut. They have turned sentiment against us and it is not hard to see why.

How's this for part of a reasoned argument...

"Madame President !

Madame President !"

followed by...

"Count Ovur Vote !

Count Ovur Vote !"

So, which is it? Disenfranchisement, or Obvious Self Interest?

Ummm. Yeah. Not that hard.

Hillary supporters ask your self this, If Hillary has more support than Obama why is it that her campaign is broke? Why is she in debt? The reason is because just like Hillary her supporters are big on mouth service and do not put their money where their mouth is. Obama has played by the rules, he has not launched crazy attacks on Hillary. so I am confused at why Hillary supporters are mad at Obama. They ran the pastor Wright stuff on every news channel for weeks but did not talk about Hillary sniper fire lie. I was a Hillary supporter and I got upset with her saying McCain would be better for president than Obama. We are democrates and I felt that comment was made to force people to vote for her or vote for McCain if she lost. Ask yourself what have you heard negative come out Obama mouth compared to what you have heard out of Hillary's mouth? I switched to Obama and every time I hear her lie about the nubers or spin them in her favor I realize I made the right choice.

Well said, dcp.

I'm scared, too.

That's why I'm digging a hole here, in which to place my head.

Life's scarey. What about it?

Stay in doors. Buy plenty of duct tape and plastic sheeting. The sky is falling.

You really sound beyond pathetic. Buck up, Missy!

And where are all these polls with Hillary winning in a lanslide coming from? I don't believe them one bit. I don't too many people personally who want to see her become president. The Clintons probably took a poll Planned Parenthood employees for that outcome.

Oh, yes,
Those Republican Men sure know how to treat the ladies.

Ha Ha Ha.

Dear Quote selector,

Please quit.
You are obviously not privy to the nuances of political rhetoric.
AsperGirl is trying, like the rest of the Clinton Nation, to provoke Fear that Obama's rightful nomination will mean the party will lose the support of all of it's old bitter women.

The "Republicans treat their women" part is just your basic thinly veiled baseless attack, for which the Clintonistas are now notorious.

I mean, what is AssperGirl going to do? Get divorced and remarried? Turn straight?
I can't believe you picked that comment. Way to dredge the bottom. And I'M the one that's unemployed. Nice.

I really don't want to see Obama become president. It has nothing to do with his race or qualifications or his church, but for the fact that he will almost surely be assassinated if he wins the presidency. Without a doubt, I fear for him and for everyone who will have to look at posters with his head right next to MLK, Malcolm X, and JFK for the next 50 years. Spare us the agony.

Lilly, are these "People" you are talking about in charge of Life and Death? I doubt it. However, the Secret Service may want to know from you who these people might be you are talking about. That is their job. Perhaps you should visit your doctor to examine your "bad feelings".

In responding to the comments of AJ, i do not think Obama has the black vote because he is black. You may not realize, but we have had a black candidate run is almost every election in the past 20 years, most recently in 2004. How many black people voted for him? I can tell you not as many that voted for the white candidates. You should do a little more research on how black people vote.

This is the danger of a group using too much sexist and racist rhetoric....eventually they'll have to put their money where their mouth is.

The Democrat party is too obsessed with making victims out of people, and now two groups of victims are fighting for the title of most victimized.

Maybe they should switch to individualism and merit. I doubt they will because they are socialist.

Don't get your underwear in a bundle folks. It has been written that the opposition to human progress (the devil) is "Lies, Weak Ideas, Wrong Thinking, Racism and Sexism". Looking at the last two Racism & Sexism which are spawned by the first three: Lies, Weak Ideas and Wrong Thinking are all stumbling blocks toward Human Progress. On this Point it has been said that "there will be unlimited progress after the devil is destroyed". These Five destructive attributes have one thing in common. They are designed to Divide the Human Family along artificial lines and put it at odds with itself. Ascribing to anyone or a combination is destructive.

I thought it was Frederick Douglas that wrote the letter arguing black men needed and/or deserved the vote more than women. He based his argument on lynching. Without stepping back from full condemnation of lynching (numbers recorded by Tuskegee University), can we not have some comparable concern for the many more thousands of women dead from domestic violence, or leading defeated lives from its less than lethal effects? What do you say, sweetie?

I like the "Nobama, not this way" comment. The Democratic party would like us to ignore the weird and frightening propaganda machine Obama unleashed. We are supposed to pretend we didn't see Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann turn into PR agents for Obama months back. We are supposed to overlook that CNN and MSNBC devoted 99% of their political coverage to making Hillary look old, scorned, bitter, not in touch with reality and making Obama look like a rock star. All of that is not supposed to be acknowledged, and we are supposed to fall in line and obey a controlled result. This was not a fair contest anymore than Putin runs a fair contest against his opponents. Which is all the more imperative that we send Obama back to Illinois or Hawaii or wherever he chooses to pretend he's from and we elect Hillary, the most qualified candidate who can bring back the peace and prosperity of the Clinton years. It's not just the Obama campaign but the corrupt American media that deserves a slap in the face through our vote.
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The whole world is looking at this show in the United States. What have we got a show which brings the worst out of the American public. Obama, an intelligent, well spoken, educated Black man with expirence in bringing people together and I white woman who has taken her beating from Bill Clinton and sees this as the only chance to redeem her self pride with the hohn that Bill has placed on her head. Hillary is also having to bear the negative sides of her brothers and also see how Bill willing or unwilling tries to demine her efforts. Regardless the sad story is that the American Public bares the risk of this clown act.

If the roles were reversed and Obama cited statistics saying how they show "Sen. CLINTON's support among working, hard-working Americans, MALE Americans, is weakening again, and how MALES in both states who had not completed college were supporting me" I would seriously reconsider voting for him, because he'd be personally saying a divisive statement.

Thankfully he did not, but Sen Clinton said the same thing on the other side. This reminds me of those Hispanics and African Americans who buy into feuding over scraps. Meanwhile the vast majority of the richest Americans are white men.

By pitting racism against sexism in an Olympics of Oppression, the winners will be upper-class white males.

As O'Reilly termed it to McCain (while speaking of immigration):

"But do you understand what the New York Times wants, and the far-left want? They want to break down the white, Christian, male power structure, which you're a part, and so am I"

That "blacks" vote overwhelmingly for barack is not race related. Bill Clinton received nearly 85% of the black vote. If Hillary wins she will ultimately receive the same support once the general got underway. As Bill once said "If you want to be Republican, you'd better vote Democrat." People in this election will vote their future. Gender and race will hover under the surface but will take a secondary import.

There are A WHOLE LOT more black people voting for Obama because he's black than there are women voting for Hillary because she's a woman. Take a look at the numbers! 90+% of blacks vote Obama, 40-60% Democrat women vote Hillary. And yet, I have to hear anyone with clout take black people to task for voting black - while everyone and their grandpa is shaking a finger at Hillary's dumb female suporters voting with their estrogen. When men vote for men, it's politics as usual. When black people vote for black people, it's how it should be. When women vote women, they're dumb and unfair. Anyone who falls for this has no more than 2 brain cells.

At some point I was fascinated by the blogs which I believed gave a rare candid opportunity to read others' opinions. But over time I have seen so much vitriol that I do not believe that content anymore. A woman above calls Barack a Sambo bc she feels Clinton is more qualified. Others call Clinton a shrew. Does either have even the smallest mantle from which to judge these candidates. I am disheartened by anyone who could say that they could never vote for a black man or a woman. For such opinions are so embedded in hatred, I personally believe that such an opinion of racism or misogyny should automatically results in the revocation of the right to vote. This comes down to leadership qualities. neither has been president before (so neither has the experience of being one) and each is qualified. I realize that Obama's national career is a young one but everything that he has personally exhibited gives me comfort that he would be a great leader. I cannot say the same of either of the Clinton's. That is not to say that they are bad people. I was at some point a radical Clinton supporter. It is only to say that Obama, once he has clinched the nomination, deserves (and ultimately by his actions will command) the respect of the Democratic electorate,

I keep hearing the issue that black people vote for BO because he is black. I will try to strike this down everywhere I see it.

First: a few blacks have run for before and they did not necessarily get the black vote.

Second: Blacks have been voting for white males for ever.

Third: Hillary started this campaign with a lead among blacks over Obama.

Finally: with two candidates remaining, Hillary in order to gain the votes of Appalachia white working class, simply calculatingly pushed the black vote in the hand of Obama.

Also: Hillary was and still able to say women and Latinos are voting for me, while Obama doesn't have that luxury to say that blacks or even youth are voting for Him, in his speeches knowing full well it would not be seen well.

I find it odd that so many people view a vote for Hillary as a vote for change. Much like Kerry in 2004, Hillary is the same as Bush. Rich, white, and trading on the previous president's name to get herself into office. Anyone who sees Hillary and actually thinks that they're voting for some sort of change in Washington simply because she's a woman hasn't got the sense that God gave a slug. Hillary is for NAFTA (after telling her husband that she was for it in the 90s, campaigning for it, and then voting for it after she got into Congress, her current cliams are nothing but lies) she's for the war in Iraq (not only did she vote in favor of it, she was one of the leading Democrats who were straining to find reasons to go), she's for tax breaks for the rich (she is rich after all), and she's aginst global warming initives.

Seriously, why vote for Republican-lite (Hillary) when you can get the full flavored Republican by voting for McCain. Obama's the only canidate that will actually do something different from what Bush is doing.

Lilley if people not wanting a person to be in office were to result in potential bad things happening to the person in office, g w b would have been gone a long time ago.

Obama continues to play a dangerous game of cat and mouse with Hillary!
He has underestimated her ability to defeat him and he will suffer the consequences!

Hillary is a formidable apponent not to be underestimated!

The media would like that to be the issue. They've been trying to storyboard this from the beginning, but anyone with half a brain can tell it isn't about race or sex. While one can parade out a handful of mouth-breathers for any cause, the vast majority of Americans are smarter than that, and are likely to vote on policy. With respect to foreign policy, there are differences between Obama and Hillary.

The reason our results are so lousy, despite Americans being smart, is the same reason telephone companies are able to abuse their customers. High barriers to entry make it easier for corporations to collude. The same is true for political parties -- look how they altered the rules for debates after Perot. Nothing in that sense will ever change until we get a decent voting system. And IRV is not decent, it's beyond flawed as is any runoff system. Condorcet voting is what we need. Never going to happen though.

I can only, ever speak for myself.
Race & sex have absolutely NOTHING to do with my decision in choosing a President & People assuming it does, simply fail to realize, most of the Democratic party assumed Hillary would be the nominee (she's been building up to this for 16 years). I expected I would be supporting her now. Something happened along the way.
Obama won Iowa & the Clinton reaction was ugly. Then People like me started taking a look @ Obama & the more we looked (yes, it's easy to actually do the research these days) the more we liked (a rare quality in a politician) & the only things that anyone has been able to pull out on Obama is petty guilt by association crap that clearly doesn't reflect directly on Obama, or his views.
Race was dismissed very early on as an issue by Obama (another point that helped win me over). Sex was NOT effectively removed by Hillary (it would have helped shore up my support for her). I have heard Obama quickly admit mistakes ( a quality sorely needed in our leaders today). Hillary has only publicly admitted to mistakes when her back was against the wall & she was clearly forced to. The list goes on & on but it's those things NOT race & gender that matter to most people I know.
The media does love a good fight though & it certainly plays into the Republican's hands to paint a bitterly divided Democratic party, even though not one Democrat I know has stated they would vote Republican if their candidate doesn't win.
I'm sure there are a small percentage who simply wont vote for a Woman or a bi-racial man but I believe it's marginal.

I don't think the Democrats "deliberately pitted a black man against a white female". I think two people who are intelligent, educated, and both very capable of doing the job, are running for the nomination for the President of the United States. That's the problem. Somewhere along the way everyone (the media's been the worst)have forgotten their capabilities and focused on their physical attributes. It's not racism or sexism, it's ignorance.

i have a bad feeling that once senator obama is elected into the white house.he will not outlived his term.there are a lot of people who don't want to see him there.

Maybe some vote strictly on the basis of race and or gender. However, there are thinking people in this country that vote on policy and some of us simply don't agree with Obama's or Hillary's policy stances.