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Not All Have Been Healed

The big question this morning, of course, is whether Hillary Clinton's speech last night quelled the unhappiness among her supporters and brought them back into the Democratic Party's big tent, where Barack Obama is the presumptive presidential nominee.

Eli Saslow interviewed delegates in Denver and reported that "when Clinton stepped off the stage and the standing ovation faded into silence, many of her supporters were left with a sobering realization: Even a tremendous speech couldn't erase their frustrations." They remain divided, he wrote.

Our Readers Who Comment this morning all over the lot. Some think Clinton did the job for the Democrats and as a result they will support Obama, some think she did a great job but they're either going to sit out or vote for John McCain. Some think the whole question of Democratic disunity is an invention of the media, and some lead cheers or raise other questions about what will decide the presidential election -- Obama's race; health care; McCain's committment to conservative Supreme Court justices, etc., etc.

We'll start with HydeParker, who wrote, "OK, Clinton supporters--she gave you your marching orders tonight! Are you ready to run on for this country, despite barking dogs? She laid it on the line: No way, no how, no McCain."

But chaya08 said, "It was a great speech by Sen.Clinton.Reminded me in the first place why I supported her. Obama did not show good judgement when he did not pick her as VP. It is not only our loss it is his too.I will not vote for him."

azjimn2son wrote that "These dead-ender Hillary supporters remind me more of a cult than of supporters of a political candidate or Party. I suspect there are many Ron Paul supporters who won't vote for anyone else either. But add them all together and you get 1%"

tazmodious wrote, "Yes, it is sad that Hillary didn't win this time... I feel Hillary really proved she will make a great president in 2012. What is really disconcerting is that Hillary supporters would rather let McCain win than vote for a person who truly holds your beliefs. What is it that makes this happen? I really don't understand..."

kskss4 said, "I'm disappointed that Hillary didn't win the nomination but I am a Democrat and a home health nurse... If Obama loses I won't be able to afford to continue my nursing job and my patients will have one less nurse who really cares about her profession and the welfare of her patients... Who, in anyone's right mind, wants another 4 years of what we are experiencing now?..."

maxd1 wrote, "The truth of the matter is that while Hillary gave a good speech, she belongs to the past.... this election is about the future. And that future is better represented by Barack Obama."

But geca reported that "My good 64 year old democrat friend said that he will be putting Hillary's name down because he will never vote for a black man. This is the issue and the so called progressive all inclusive democrats cannot be honest or come down to say it publicly but it is what it is: race and his mother was white..."

bobby12320007 wrote, "...Most of the Hillary supporters I have talked to say they were considering voting McCain. I am one of them. Barack has a lot of work to do. He better get busy campaigning!"

kstack said, "so some clinton supporters are still "frustrated." well you know what? that's a condition of adult life. cowboy up! we have an election to win."

morningglory51 wrote, "I have been a Democrat for more than 30 years and I do not like Obama, nor do I trust him and will not vote for him. Obama supporters use Rovian tactics to beat down Clinton supporters, and use name calling to gain their support..."

GSWAGNER said, "Obama has some responsibility now. He must reach out to former Hillary supporters. They are not a sack of potatoes to be delivered to Obama by Clinton. She has done everything she can do."

DemoDevil was one of several who suggested that "The media got together and decided that the story this week was the conflict between Hillary and Barack. So they seek out the outliers to validate their point..."

And WinstonSmith4 opined, "A surprising news article, given that nearly every other news outlet is talking about the wonderful "unity" the Democrats have now found. Lions and lambs, Clintons and Obamas grazing together again. Is the Post getting soft or has it actually taken on a project in objective reporting?"

We'll close with these two comments:
rpsboyz said, "HRC gave a speech asking democrats to unify and vote for Barack. She never once mentioned BHO's character, ability to lead,experience, etc. I am very happy that she left that stuff out. This was actually a good speech to electrify the Republican party! Let's go McCain!!!!"

And merrylees wrote, "And when McCain nominates another old white male to be his running mate, will the Clinton supporters still vote for McCain? Hillary had her shot... The Rebublicans have never nominated a woman for VP or President and they don't even have anyone in the running. To reinforce the status quo is not showing support for Hillary it is political suicide."

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  August 27, 2008; 7:34 AM ET
Categories:  Clinton , Obama , Presidential Politics  
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Comments

Gee, malcontents. What does Rush say you should do now?

Posted by: Unity Now | August 28, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

There is one word to describe obama, and that is: MACHO

I do not believe obamacho can win w/o HRC


What an embarassment to our country to have someone who is not qualified to become the President of our country!

Posted by: Mira Vergoniha | August 28, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

First of all, let's be real for a second. There is no way to vet the true voting record of each comment posted here and judging what I read, it looks like its is coming from a Rove playbook. After interviewing over 500 plus at the convention, I would say that this site and the readers have been punked (being deceived). Here is a real fact you can bank on while the GOP is hyperventilating with fear, the democrats are not going to vote for another screwin and if they do, it will be a handful that loves abuse. Good luck readers, come November, there will be a change where the Republican Brand will be removed from the shelves in Washington no matter how hard the GOP tries to repackage McBush as a Mickey D's value meal in which people are reading the nutrition label which state; loaded with Republican fat, cost to much and the same old meat.

Posted by: rb | August 28, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse


Joe

Keep thinking that way...you and your ilk will cost OBAMA the election because he is not getting my vote...and I am not moving on or getting over it. We girls like to get kissed when we get XXXXed.

XO
New McCain Voter

Posted by: mwpuma | August 27, 2008 10:08 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe there are still Hillary supporters out there that still are upset and whining, threatening to sit out. They need to get over it, and move on, because the democratic party is going to move forward for change with or without them.

Posted by: Joe | August 27, 2008 9:49 PM | Report abuse


To all the OBAMA supporters that have been snidely telling me ..a 'life long democrat' to get over it and get used to it.

I AM TELLING YOU I its my own vote..and I am VOTING FOR JOHN MCCAIN..NOW YOU OBAMA SUPPORTERS GET OVER IT AND GET USED TO IT....will there be enough of YOU ...I DOUBT IT.

It would have been very simple to have offered Hillary the VP slot but he did not and its called stupidty and hubris.

Now its my turn to watch YOU GUYS BURST A GUT and LOSE ..and OBAMA could have been President..but its called MEANNESS.

Posted by: mwpuma | August 27, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

>>Obama's surrogates and his willing co-conspiritors in the media are supressing this story.
It aint "a story", peanut, it's a recurring Republican wet dream,
Like "he's a muslem"
or
He's a vietcong spy!!
(Wait a minute, that was the hallucination you were claiming was true four years ago).
What needs looking into is the relationship between Sinclair Media and the Republican Party.
Brother, the Republicans are about as corrupt as is humanly possible and need to be washed out to sea with the rest of the sewage.

Posted by: dijetlo | August 27, 2008 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Hillary's speech moved me enough to vote for Obama. She's my girl. Obama-Biden '08 for me.

Posted by: Mary Spera | August 27, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

The people who supported Hillary Clinton are not just upset that she lost. We are upset because of the sexist treatment she and her supporters were given by her supposedly good friends inside the beltway and the biased Media. Also, all the children out there that think Feminism is somehow no longer relevant. Wait til you are older baby and check back with me.

Posted by: Sandy | August 27, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I understand the frustration of Clinton's supporters, I really do. But if you supported her because she was a strong woman who's always advocated for our rights as women and mothers, you MUST give your support to Sen. Obama. To refuse to do so is to condemn all American women -- our sisters, our nieces, our daughters -- to a steady erosion of our rights.

Whether you vote for McCain or stay home, the result will invariably be the same: another four years of a presidential administration that puts women's rights, including reproductive rights, dead last. Another four years of an administration determined to appoint Supreme Court justices who will chip away at Roe vs. Wade (if not overturn it outright), make it OK for pharmacists to refuse to fill prescriptions for birth control, and allow insurance companies to refuse coverage for birth control (while continuing to cover erectile dysfunction medications for men).

In short, any woman who supported Hillary Clinton and refuses to vote for Barack Obama will be voting against her own and other women's interests. And that is the opposite of what Hillary Clinton has been fighting to accomplish.

Posted by: C.J. | August 27, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Please recall, suppress my comment posted earlier under the name "Walden". Very bad error on my part.

Posted by: walden | August 27, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Michelle O: Was great!! Remember she was a Princeton under grad, Harvard Law graduate-
Ditto basically for Ms Clinton- slightly different formidable academic institution.
So both are quite capable of writing, and giving a good speeches- you don't go to these places with out having some intellect.
This is not like the Columbia school of Broadcasting or wherever that idiot Sean Insanity went. That’s why he's so stupid- a fact of life the stupid like the stupid. That’s why he’s so rich and popular
This Reverend Wright thing that he and the other beer batter brains are always referring to is in essence one sound bite! Oh yeah they have a couple of more “facts”: 1 or 2 references bites unspecific vapid assertions about the Obama's membership in some nebulous gang with Father Pfegger, and Ayers and Bernadine Dorn. This is all nonsense conceptually speaking. None of these anti intellectual, analysis challenged loudmouths who make these content less accusations has made any attempt to analyze and document anything. Nothing technically sophisticated ever passes between their big blowhard mouths, from their big stewed cabbaged brains
It's not their style! No they just grab a phrase out of context and use it as the total summation of a person, a group of persons over a whole lifetime. How disingenuous, not surprising since these guys are not geniuses.
This is all too complex for the graduates and denizens of Sean’s pub. They don’t like complexity- as a matter of fact they don’t like to think- as a mater of fact they don’t think, they drink-cheap NY swill, with shamrocks on the barrels and allow the holy ghost of its spirit to misinform them, and there cheap beer drinkers.
Freaking pathetic!
I realize the last paragraph here partakes in some of their techniques, but at least it’s a bit funny.
LUX…US

Posted by: lexlumina | August 27, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama chooses to walk away from his radical secular mentors…consequence free, the same way he choose to walk away from his spiritual role-models.

There is a record: -the Ayers/ Obama the files of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC, housed in the UIC library) that detail both the extent and the scope of Obama's ties to radicals like Ayres.

His response to the ad conflicts with the CAC records that show a closer collaboration between Ayers and Obama than was suggested by Obama that Ayers was just a guy "in the neighborhood."

Obama's surrogates and his willing co-conspiritors in the media are supressing this story.

How can anyone support such a spineless, craven, cowardly & dishonest persona…?

Posted by: AMR 1960 | August 27, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

The next president faces unfunded Medicare and Social Security liabilities for each citizen - $330,000 because government of the people, by the people, and for the people is not able to handle its money.

Does the winner of the election matter? You might as well invest in countries that balance their budgets.

Posted by: H | August 27, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

If Hillary really wanted Obama to win her speech would have been alot more powerful. Hillary wants to run again in 2012 to bad to let Obama win this election. Her supporters remain on her side not Obama's.

Posted by: wes | August 27, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I really can't understand the die-hard Hillary supporters, they seem to be delusional. They claim that she was cheated, how? She lost, fair and square, and not only did she lose, but she was the one with all of the advantages and she was the one that engaged in dirty underhanded tactics to try and tear down Obama. They always talk about vague things like "sexism" and "bias" and how "she was wronged", but I see no examples at all of specific instances of these things. And for the record there have been 30 female governors, and there are currently 16 female senators in the senate right now. Only 2 African-Americans have been elected governor, the first elected in 1990. There have only been 5 African-American senators in all US history. BTW, the first woman was elected governor in 1925. Don't tell me that there is more sexism in politics than racism, that is provably false and demonstrably untrue. Hillary didn't lose because of sexism, she lost because lots of people don't like her and she ran a horrible, self-immolating, disorganized, "elitist", campaign.

Posted by: Jeff | August 27, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

BHO made a serious error in judgement when he did not pick HRC as VP. It will possibly cost him the election. In the end, it was a judgement call. I'd say the first of his pre-presidential carreer. Maybe his last.

Posted by: DDI | August 27, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

After that great speech last night, if any of Hillary's supporters are still not on board with the democrats then there is something really off about voting for McCain. Do you fully realize what McCain stands for?

In the words of Clinton-

More economic stagnation …and less affordable health care.

More high gas prices …and less alternative energy.

More jobs getting shipped overseas …and fewer jobs created here.

More skyrocketing debt ...home foreclosures …and mounting bills that are crushing our middle class families.

More war . . . less diplomacy.

More of a government where the privileged come first …and everyone else comes last.

Posted by: Will D. | August 27, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Healed??LOL!! Never! It's not about healing. It's not being able to support Obama's racism, terrorist associations and general garbage plan for the country. I can't ever remember people be so stupid and blind as to buy into the Obama lies!

Posted by: dragonfly777 | August 27, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Post:

Dear American Citizens and the mass media of U.S.A.

From: COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret]

Best post (at least on this board) ever.

Posted by: TJ Weldy | August 27, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Quit trying to drag this out, Doug...you're being a drama queen! Let it go

Posted by: Tom | August 27, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Obama should say Thursday night that there is a good reason why he didn't pick Hillary to be his running mate. He should announce that he intends to nominate her for the Supreme Court. Anything short of that will not bring unity and will mean defeat in November.

Posted by: hamishdad | August 27, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

kskss4 really confused me. How is Obama's election going to ensure her job security as a nurse while McCain's election ensures her job loss? Should I look for the entire entry to understand her reasoning or does it even matter since she has her job now and Bush has been president for 8 years? Liberals can be really dramatic people.

Posted by: dcp | August 27, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Dear American Citizens and the mass media of U.S.A.

As a concerned disabled American Veteran and American citizen, I consider it my duty and responsibility to bring following critical characteristics of so called Maverick McCain to you for proving me wrong or right.

"The citizens of the United States of America have the ultimate responsibility to elect the " Right Candidate with the right temperament" to lead our nation' to address our nations present and future moral, democratic, economic, educational, health care, energy, military, and foundational soul of our nation.

In my firm professional opinion that the media should help the common voter to explore and discuss following attributes of Hon. Senator McCain.


1. Does he have a calm, cool, and collected " temper " [ Presidential Temperament ]?
2. Does he have a sound and sustained "Judgment and Caliber"?
3. Does he have a reveal a presidential "Thought-fullness and togetherness" of purpose and positions?
4. Does he lot or little "ex-poser and exploitation" around Washington"?
5. Does he poses enough " Vigor, wisdom and Vision " for our Great-grand Nation?
6. Does he poses foreign policy exploit-es based on " American Values, Virtuous, Vastness"?
7. Does his campaign talk. slogans and ads are based of facts and free of fiction, deception, seduction, and attacks?

If your answer to the above questions is yes then recommend and vote for him.

But in my professional. political, and personal opinion that vote is against the common interests majority of American people, against the world humanity, continuation of status qua and possibly dangerous world order.

Long live U.S.A and its democratic people and their common sense.

COL.. A.M. Khajawall [Ret] MD., Colonel, USAR / MC Combat Stress Control[Ret], Disabled American Veteran and Iraq Freedom team.

PS: Please google McCain and temper read what his senator colleagues and others are saying about it. Mccains negativity and temper will noy heal Democrates and American

Posted by: COL. A.M.Khajawall [Ret] | August 27, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

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