Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity

Palin Draws Cheers, Respect, Fear

Hockey Mom Sarah Palin unquestionably fired up the Republican National Convention last night. As Dan Balz wrote in his analysis of her acceptance speech, the GOP's vice presidential nominee "proved to be an instant jolt of energy for a political party that has been worried and demoralized for much of 2008."

She also fired up our Readers Who Comment -- both for and against. Usually comment strings on political stories wind up largely in the hands of one side or or the other. But those on this article, at the hour of this writing, seem fairly evenly divided between Democratic and Republican sentiments.

The tone of the comments from both sides suggest that this candidate will not be written off as a lightweight, despite her small-town, small-state political resume. You can read respect or fear (you choose) in the remarks from those who appear to be Democrats. Palin clearly came across as a formidable battler who understands and enjoys political combat.

We'll start with AlexZ83, who wrote, "...Judging by the stunned media reports and the low-key comments of the liberal pitbulls tonight, Palin polished up the Democratic Party completely! I'd like to see the "independent" media go after her one more time.... if they dare!"

But davestickler said, "Maybe it's just me, but I felt her speech was boilerplate meanness. I didn't notice a vision for what America should be, nor did I hear anything in her speech that should relieve her of the questions about her lack of policy knowledge..."

debera109 wrote, "Oh man, she is awesome! I cannot wait to see more of her in action. She was inspiring tonight. Finally, finally, I get to vote for a women on a presidential ticket whom I admire immensely!..."

But DianeW18 said, "She's perfect for the Republican party, nasty, mean, divisive, vindictive, full of venom...and delivered with a perky smile. Welcome to your new and improved GOP..we still suck at governing but we can wage war during elections..and usually find a way to win..."

Wordyguy wrote, "...I voted for Hillary here in Wisconsin and sent her what I could afford. Governor Palin has convinced me that it's Ok to vote for John McCain and Sarah Palin...and send them what I could afford..."

Cognomen08 said, "I'm kind of glad the Republicans are feeling confident. I don't miss the terror alerts."

jmcauli1 said, "Well, chalk the VP selection up to the Republicants... The Dummercrats had better disarm her quickly... make no mistake, the Republicant ticket is now a dangerous animal."

regleoboy said, "...she is someone who will stand toe-to-toe with [Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph] Biden in a debate. It would be a terrible mistake for Biden to approach this woman from a position of empathy... Palin has officially fired-up the Democratic base and as we thank her, we shall proceed to "squash" her..."

choskasoft, whose computer apparently doesn't have question marks, wrote, "In case anyone was wondering what the opposite of hope is, we learned tonight that it is hate... It's game on for the future and soul of America. Do we want hate. Do we want permanent war. Or do we want to come together to actually make America truly great..."

GeneGuffey said, "I think the Governor Palin speach is going to be well recieved in all the small towns across America as she stated quite openly - I am going to be serving the People of the United States - not the media. A real breath of free air is going to Washington DC in the name of the people."

And mollycoddle1 observed that "The Republican base seems to love her. I don't get it. It looks like they are doing the same thing that they did in 2000 with GWB. They just liked him... McCain picked a showhorse to win the contest. Pure and simple."

LTADM said, "...As someone who volunteers with many community groups, I was insulted with the reference to as if someone who organizes with community groups work is not valued. It was the typical GOP platform, fear and attack... just because one does not agree with the GOP position, does not make one unpatriotic..."

rscott251 wrote, "I just love the posts's deriding her experience, when she has more than Obama. And she is only the VP nominee, not the Presidential nominee. That tells me, Obama supporters are running scared..."

We'll close, not with a comment from a reader but with the last paragraph from Post television critic Tom Shales's review of Palin's speech. He wrote, "She proved herself in the great arena; that's what counts politically. Nobody could watch that speech and still consider her a joke, no matter how flimsy her credentials and qualifications may seem on paper. The joke, it seems, is on those who'd been laughing at her. Last night the laughing ended -- and the cheering began."

All comments on the Balz analysis are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  September 4, 2008; 7:36 AM ET
Categories:  Palin , Presidential Politics  
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: McCain's Judgment
Next: McCain, Palin Draw Sniping, Support

Comments

Could it actually be a sign of pervasive sexism, that a woman candidate believes that in order to win her party's approval she must prove she's tough enough to run a nation by invoking analogous machismo by holding up a dog with a less than gentle reputation as an example of her strength? Is Palin and her party's attempt to elevate her into a tomboyish tough love Mom with conservative virtues a party that deep down, at least appears to be complacent with a woman knowing her place in the grand political game of the true powers that be in the western world? While it might be true, that the Republican party claims to be a party that endorses a stronger philosophy of individual responsibility, does the scent of hypocrisy not waif through the minds of millions of women who recognize it is also a party that would deny them the right to choose?
full piece of mind link...
http://agonist.org/cody_lyon/20080904/the_truth_about_pit_bulls_and_lipstick

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Why on earth was she dumb enough to mention "The Bridge To No Where" since the record shows she took the money and spent it on another project?

Maybe McCain will forget his (and Cindy and her family's) involvement as a member of the "Keating 5" and point it out as an example of something he would never do as a senator.

What a circus we are in for.

Posted by: Bob | September 7, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

They are going to keep her incommunicado for 60 days. Not let her near any national press that could ask her tough questions on camera. They have nothing to gain and everything to lose. She will be opting out regularly with reasons like I need to escort my daughter to her first day of school, my new son is ill and needs my care, my oldest daughter needs me to go with her for her ultrasound exam.

She'll snipe and run for 2 months with her hit and run tactics.

And then lose on election day.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 7, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

New York Democrats in Action!

My friends the picture of Hillary in this article does not look like a Woman who is afraid of the Pit Bull with Lip Stick, Mr. Schmit, Mr. Rove and McCain/Bush!

Hillary Clinton, New York Democrats have Sarah Palin in their site at Labor Day powow.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/09/06/2008-09-06_hillary_clinton_new_york_democrats_have_.html

"No way, no how, no McCain, no Palin." Senator Hillary Clinton

New York Democrats say vote for Change we can believe in ...

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: RFK | September 6, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Thank you. I would like to hear McCain-Palin's policies. I'm not scared of Palin. I do believe she's intended to be a distraction. If she doesn't know what the VP 's job involves, or has paid much attention to Iraq, how could she possibly have any really knowledge of Obama or Biden. She's just good at doing a verbal vomit act of what someone else has told her to say. So I don't take any attack she attempted to make creating fear. It's a lot of gall and mudslinging. How can you say something bad about someone, when you don't know yourself and only know what someone tells you.? That's kindergarten stuff. Even so, you do have to protect yourself from the mud.

Posted by: Vikki56 | September 6, 2008 5:36 PM | Report abuse

WHAT ARE PALIN'S AND MCCAIN'S POLICIES GOING TO BE?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

It is not their place as candidates to launch personal attacks. It is their job to tell us what their policies are going to be.

What are McCain's and Palin's goint to be?????

So far, I hear, they are goint to give the richest 1% of the people taxcuts. Nobody else gets them. That is just lousy.

What else are their policies?

Dead silence.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Only stupid people would ever want Palin for president.

She'll a shill.

There is no substance here. Only nasty personal attacks. When somebody has nothing to talk about, they do personal attacks.

Look at her record, for God's sakes. Earmarks, flipp-flopping, lying about her stance on the bridge to nowhere, supporting and earning money for Ted Stevens before she was against him, recall election sentiments, illegal firings, book banning.

Just be careful before you do something rash. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing. She is nothing but political ambition.

A shill, with no substance.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

New Sarah Palin For President 2012 Website

Forget John McCain: We Want Sarah Palin For President in 2012

Getting ready to work for Sarah Palin, starting today at http://www.palin4pres2012.com

Posted by: Ron | September 6, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

To all those that has an issue with Roe vs Wade:
Sarah palin believes in the value of a human life.
No matter what anyone believes about the abortion issue, it is not a religious issue.
I don't believe that abortion is ever mentioned in the bible, so whatever you feelings about abortion, you have the right to feel what you want.
The seperation of church and state is very important because at one time the church was very dictatorial and even had more authority than kings and queens. The church was responsible for the Inquisistion, and religion is responsible for most of the bloody wars down through history ......so I don't believe that the church really believes in the sanctity of life as Sarah Palin does.

Abortion is a matter of taking a life, and as far as I know it is against the law to take a life, and untill the law is changed that is alright if you kill someone abortion is illegal, it is not a religious issue.

Rape is a terrible crime against another person whether or not it results in a pregnancy, if it does result in a pregnancy the woman should be able to put that child up for adoption. A woman that has been raped will feel a terrible personal wound for a long time no matter if she was impregnated or not.

The issue of abortion should be left up to the individual States and the Federal government should have no power in the determination.
The Federal government should get out of our schools and our bedrooms and our hospitals, out of our bathrooms and out of our vehicles, etc., etc.....

I fear that both John McCain and Barack Obama are determined to expand the dictatorial powers of the Federal government, but of the two, I fear Obama the most for his big Federal government programs.

Posted by: trueblueamerican | September 6, 2008 6:52 AM | Report abuse

I invite any democrat to comment how any of these Obama plans will help him with his life-- Jack

---------

I'm not a registered democrat, but I can tell you that now that I'm up to speed on Palin, Obama doesn't even matter to me anymore. I'd vote for a cardboard cutout before I would put my support behind her. I truly don't hate McCain, but a ticket that puts a religious fundamentalist like her anywhere near the presidency is utterly unacceptable to me. This is a person who thinks a 14 year old victim of rape or incest should have to carry her baby to term and that our invasion of Iraq was the will of God. She could be picking our next Supreme Court Justices if McCain wins in November. She is incompatible with our nation's principles of freedom and separation of church and state.

Posted by: Joe | September 6, 2008 1:59 AM | Report abuse

Bush has a lot of class and doesn't fight his critics. show me one person who thought we wouldn't be attacked again and I'll say Bush is only a good president not great. We feel so safe now we can nominate someone named Barak Hussien Obama lol...what a great President Bush is to make us feel so safe. We forget Bush inherited the internet bubble bust and Clinton Recession and While Clinton was using an intern as an ashtray terrorists were taking flight lessons...lol. If Bush had less class and just brought up these things constantly he would be way more popular but less classy.

Posted by: jamie | September 6, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse


Why all the concern about experience when it comes to a presidential candidate?
Is it better to have a politician with much experience but is corrupt, and that
believes in pork barrel philosophy and screwing the people and building more
expensive big government programs for the sake of promoting despotism, or a
candidte that will balance the budget, give power back to the people and cut the
bureaucracy of big government dictators and surrounding themselves with a good
knowledgable staff, to take our country in the right direction?
I am one American citizen that is sick of both Republican and Democrats (like
Stevens and Reid for example), that have no problem causing our country to have
massive debt.
Give us jobs and self respect and let us have the power of making decisions
about our health insurance and our schools, etc., etc. and not some political
dictator.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Democrats have to be the most simple minded turds---- Here you have your nominee basing his platform on raising taxes and raising the price of gas by reaising taxes on gas in order to ween us simple little minded constituency from gas- and saying that sun light and summer breezes will provide the power for this country when energy use and demand is raising at an expodential rate and any energy expert says that we have to increase energy production---how can anyone vote for such a person-- I invite any democrat to comment how any of these Obama plans will help him with his life-- Jack

Posted by: JACK | September 5, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

The more the liberals and leftists trash Sarah Palin, the more encouraging it is. The backlash has done as much for the Republican ticket as All of the positive comments have, perhaps more.

The left/liberals/progressives fear her. She is living proof that their view of America is not validated by the majority, as their delusions tell them.

I was prepared to use the write in vote until McCain chose Sarah. I will now vote the Republican ticket.

Obama doesn't have a clue. Every time he has had to answer a question off the cuff, with no teleprompter or prepared notes, he has made a fool of himself. Sadly, the MSN don't report it. He should go on "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader."

On the Russia-Georgia situation, he said to refer it to the UN Security Council. His Fifth Grade Teammate might have to tell hi that Russia has veto power on the UN Security Council. And he says he has such good foreign policy credentials?

Obama's Cotton Candy economic proposals would put the USA into a major Depression and his foreign policies will result in more 9/11's, or worse. He is the Paris Hilton of USA politics. His support is the MTV generation, Abortion fanatics, GLBT Alliance, American Terrorists, and more.

JFK and LBJ hated one another, but JFK had the good sense to put LBJ on the ticket as VP. Obama's Arrogance and Messianic Complex would not allow him to pick Hillary. Major, major mistake on his biggest decision to date.

There is nothing on earth "above the president's pay grade" and he can't vote "Present" when the phone rings at 3 in the morning.

Posted by: Frank Herrmann | September 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Among the numerous white lies of McCain, ''change is coming'' yes change will come no matter what, in McCain''s case if he were tragically elected, we would have a new President and that in itself would constitute change, sure. In McCain''s case that is where it would end however, it would be like reelecting Bush for a third term, which really would not be a change at all. Remember John McCain voted in support of 95 per cent of Bush''s disastrous policies. In Obama''s case we would see President Obama and the newly elected Democrats in the House and Senate get straight to work at reversing all of the failed economic, foreign, environmental, employment, education and many other failures of the Bush administration. It is not a matter of will there be some kind of change, it is a matter of exactly what kind of change we want, Obama all the way if that''s the question.

Posted by: Democrats 08 | September 5, 2008 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Rupublicans are out of ideas. They have cynicaly put forward Sara Palin as a candidate in attempt to play to far right extremists. Palin does not have the slightest credentials to be VP. If McCain really did love his country so much rather than just wanting to win this election, he would have put forth a real candidate with experience. There are several Republican women of substance he could have tapped rather than this lipstick wearing pitbull.

Posted by: carlin | September 5, 2008 10:02 AM | Report abuse

it is amazing that people expect the government to save us poor souls from the crisis of healthcare, mortages and provide us an education....

what happened to the government doing the will of the people?

Canada and Great Britian already have universal healthcare, and it is proven that it is not an effective means for providing for the public and yet these ass clown still want to move more toward socialism.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like either Obama or McCain. Obama is full blown socialist and McCain is a Democrat. No matter which one gets elected, I feel America will take a step back with more fees, aka taxes, with carbon credits, global warming, cap and trade.

If Obama is for hope and change not the for the same politics of old, then why did he choose someone who has been in office for much longer than McCain?

Conversely, if McCain is such a maveric and fighting for the people, then why did he even propose the campaign finance reform legislation that restricts free speech and try to get the amnesty bill passed through congress and he initially stated he would roll back the tax cuts thus he would increase taxes.

Both are bad for America it's just McCain is the lesser evil.

Sarah Palin should be the one on the front of the ticket running for President of the United States of America.

Posted by: David | September 5, 2008 9:07 AM | Report abuse

PRESUMPTION
Why do people make an assumption about Sarah Palin, when in fact they are only commetating out of emotion.

I consider myself an unbiased political spectator and for one, saw no meanness in Sarah Palin's speach as she stated the facts as she presented her self in a capable and proffesional manner.

As far as her knowledge of running a government goes, I can only go by what she has accomplished. I do know however that there are many politicians that have much more experience than Sarah Palin but experience is no excuse for corruption.

We have many experienced polititions today that are knowingly stealing our freedoms and taking away our liberty by turning this into a nanny-state.

The true reprentative of the values of our beloved United States is the CONSTITUTION of the people, for the people and not for the government to take from the people and make this a welfare state where citizins of America become slaves of a dictatorial group of petty men and women that we hired to work for us.

Posted by: trueblueamerican | September 5, 2008 6:48 AM | Report abuse

I look at U of Hawaii-Hilo, Hawaii Pacific U., N. Idaho, U of Idaho(twice)and Matanuska-Susitna College in the space of six years during the early eighties, and you know what I see?

Riphead.

I was enough of a riphead in the 70's to know another riphead when I see one.

Posted by: Jamie | September 5, 2008 6:39 AM | Report abuse

As dumbfoundingly bad as she is, she appears to have gotten a lot of people thinking and talking about this race. That could turn out to be constructive.

And who are we elitists from Harvard University to look down our noses at someone from the University of Idaho?
...or North Idaho, or U. of Hawaii Hilo or Hawaii Pacific University, or even Matanuska-Susitna College?

Posted by: Jamie | September 5, 2008 5:52 AM | Report abuse

Scary Lady, Ms Palin! Does she know the meaning of dignity? or was that not part of her tele-prompt?

Why did USA not go with Hillary????????? A true example to the world, of a US stateswoman!

The rest of the world looks at USA, and scratches their heads?????????

Posted by: London, UK | September 5, 2008 3:58 AM | Report abuse

She can do it all? I'm sorry to say this folks, but having an unwed teen daughter get pregnant is not good parenting. I know it happens to good people, but it cannot be deemed a success at this point. As for her speech, well, she trained to be a TV journalist (so she's not an elitist, she's an elitist wannabe) and so she knows how to use a teleprompter. I haven't seen anything unscripted.
The jury is still out on her governing of Alaska, but Alaska's gotta be the easiest state in the country to govern--free cash for living there, plenty of resources, pork barrel projects that the rest of the country is paying for. She's never had to deal with a budget deficit--and that's not because of her good governance, it's because you and I pump billions into that state. If you can put up with the cold, which is probably pretty easy to do with all the weed they smoke up there, then the living isn't bad. Face it, dealing with corruption was easy.
I have yet to hear of her taking any stance that would really rub Alaskans the wrong way, like protecting ANWR, or other natural resources.
As for the "executive experience" angle: here's some presidents who didn't have any: JFK, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford. Some good, some not so good, but it's hardly a prerequisite for the office.
I would, quite frankly, be terrified if she were to become president. She'd be like GWB. He too was belittled, and so he had a big chip on his shoulder and felt like he had something to prove, and so we're having so many problems now. I think she'd be the same, making decisions out of ego rather than out of any common sense that she might have.
I really don't wish anything bad for her, but she simply has not been tested and so we cannot really make any guesses as to how she might lead. And I don't understand how Republicans can vote for a "maverick." Doesn't the very definition of the word suggest an untrustworthiness?

Posted by: steven | September 5, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

"Will she legalize pot since she smokes it herself?"

Another hypocrite
Obama has admitted using HARD drugs and pot, and YOUR point is?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

"Here's what I want someone to ask Palin: "How does a bill become law?" Just basic civics stuff, you know. What about regulations? How are they promulgated? How are they related to laws? Does she know that she'd be the President of the Senate? Does she know what a cloture vote is?"

Are you for REAL?
Don't you know that a Governor of a State has essentially the same place in State law making as the Pres does at Federal levels?
She knows VERY well how laws have been made, she's signed DOZENS of laws into effect as a Governor. MANY more laws than Obama has helped pass. She has had to WORK with the Legislators.
There are plenty of other things to complain about, and you have just shown what a buffoon YOU are, not Palin.
Unbelievable.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

Politics is usually so ho hum that we foreigners avoid most US election news till it is all said and done.

But what an extraordinary year this 2008 race has been. Fascinating, thank you! Most of us believe that either of your candidates would be such a step up from Bush that we haven't favoured one side or the other! Simply watched and listened with great interest.

But this excitement re Palin has us stunned. You can't be serious!!

Comparing Palin with Clinton is ridiculous. I'm a woman and the fact that self described hockey mum, Palin, might be president of the United States is just scary.

American voters, get your brains into gear, PLEASE. Your government choices affect all of us.

Posted by: foreignercomment | September 5, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

The RNC claims to be all about values, but their boorish behavior last night at their convention was embarrassingly peppered with belittling, mocking, and derisive guffaws, at both Obama, and European allies. Their self-righteous, haughty and condescending behavior was wrapped in patriotism and motherhood. Country first for whom? Themselves? These behaviors do not make a safer or better world.

Posted by: Becky Hammond | September 5, 2008 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Right. They are even rated to the left of self described socialist Bernard Sanders of Vermont. Now that is an amazing feat.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

What a bunch a whiny people Dems are these days. NOW finally gets the woman who can do it all (family career etc) and they bash her for not staying at home with her family. What is her husband for? No one would question a man's ability to do both. People have even suggested that she made a mistake in keeping her child with Downs Syndrome.. What a bunch of morons.
They critisized her for her lack of experience... Obama 2 years state Senate, 2 years US Senate . Palin 4 years mayor, 2 years Governor of Alaska. Let's not forget, it's John McCain running for President. Biden will fumble and bore everyone to death in any debate. Not with facts but with the typical irrelevant tripe to which he wanders. Palin appears to but straight, to the point and capable. I saw an interview with Biden discussing the VP debate. He seemed to be building her up. Probably to lower expectations of himself in case his performance was not so as well as previously advertised. Palin's appeal should resonate well in most of the country (red states). Can she run the country? It's been 33 years since a VP assumed office. I think Biden would be dangerous in that his mouth is only outsized by his head(ego).
Obama could have chosen Hillary or anyone else. Obama beingrated #1 in liberalism couldn't pick #2 (Ted Kennedy) so he went with #3. Why couldn't he have chosen someone that at least had some support in the primaries? Anyone but Biden. Biden was the only candidate who had yet to endorse him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

**Shocked: An English teacher. Ever visited Hotsoup? Your post reads almost word for word like the English teacher that showed up there.

Posted by: Rich | September 4, 2008 9:16 PM

Rich,

Never heard of it. I happened to be following a link, and this title sounded interesting. I read the comments, and the won't-shut-up part of me had to say something. Even though I know my opinion is probably worthless and won't influence anyone, I still felt the need to express it.

Di--your statements make you sound like the snide, incompetent nobody. In fact, we are ALL nobodies who lack the experience to truly understand what any role in the government involves. I'm a blip on the internet. So are you. Would you want someone to make the same statement about you if you were attempting to rise up from your nobody-ness to make a difference in your world?

Folks, as McCain said tonight, if you want to make a difference, get involved. Be the difference you want to see.

And that advice comes from my liberal peers in the Social Studies department, fellow nobodies who vociferously attempted to shut me down during lunch today when I dared to discuss Obama's tax plan in a critical light.

Sheesh. Can't we debate without pointing fingers and getting nasty?

Posted by: Shocked | September 4, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

I didn't feel respect and fear. I felt irritation and disgust. It sounded like a campaign speech for high school president, delivered by one of the mean girl's. I was very disappointed and disturbed that she lied so frequently and easily about her own positions (bridge to nowhere, earmarks, etc.) and Obama's (not writing anything but memoirs. If there's any fear, it's the fear that this snide, incompetent, nobody could be running our country.

Also, it di

Posted by: Di | September 4, 2008 11:17 PM | Report abuse

Q: If McCain had selected one of the GOP presidential candidates as his VP then how many Republicans would have told McCain that Palin, the unknown governor of Alaska, would be a better choice?
A: No one.

The GOP told us to trust their choice when George Bush came along. Now their choice is recognised as the worst president in history. However, the GOP wants us to trust them once again and to trust a complete unknown, Suzanne Palin. (Have I got her name right?).

Posted by: Robert James | September 4, 2008 10:45 PM | Report abuse

This woman is the worst sort of uneducated, arrogant, snide, right-wing, deathcamp guard bible-thumper. It has nothing to do with her sex, except that women like this are often twice as bad as the men, because they have an axe to grind and something to prove. And no, she isnt the turn-on repubs make her out to be. Elect her at your peril.

Posted by: Jackson Wallace | September 4, 2008 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Nice post Kimberly Peacock.


Truth is, he baited her and baited her and baited her, and she came out swinging. Now Obama looks like Mr. Sweatervest.

Posted by: Happy | September 4, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Are people aware that when Gov. Sarah Palin is elected U.S. Vice President this November, she would be presiding over the U.S. Senate, not just in waiting with a heartbeat away from the buttons of a nuclear arsenal or war? Are people aware of the enormous responsibilities that she would be carrying, and wield the power that goes with it? Is she equipped and ready for it? If she is not, it not only endangers the U.S., but the entire world. One cannot deny that the top is always a lonely job.

Posted by: Wilson C. Wy Tiu | September 4, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Here's what I want someone to ask Palin: "How does a bill become law?" Just basic civics stuff, you know. What about regulations? How are they promulgated? How are they related to laws? Does she know that she'd be the President of the Senate? Does she know what a cloture vote is?

Someone needs to have the guts to grill her on this. She may be "an outsider," but if she wants to help run the country, she'd better know how Washington, DC works. More to the point, how our government works. How would that tutoring go? Madame Governor, there are three House Office Buildings: Rayburn, Cannon, and Longworth. This is where members of congress and their staffs work in the House of Representatives, of which there are 435..."

Of the 4 people running, she's the only one who probably doesn't know how our government actually works. She didn't even take the time to find out what the job entails--and admitted as much on CNBC. Amazing.

Posted by: Mr. Greg | September 4, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

Elmer Gantry in drag - nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: David | September 4, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Palin's resume is thin...very, very thin. What are they cheering for? For someone who came out of nowhere after McCain met her for the SECOND time? They're proud of this? It means he is reckless with the nation's security. It shows his inconsistency as someone who apparently first says he will unite the nation, then puts an attack dog in a skirt and lipstick on stage. The same bozos who put the 'small town aw shucks' guy in the White House TWICE will now put the 'aw shucks small town gal' in .

Posted by: anniemargret | September 4, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Man, I pity anyone whose job it is to sift through this rancorous cesspool of comments each day.

Posted by: Justin | September 4, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

"

The best idea is to move the African Americans and the Hispanic back to Africa and Mexico, respectively.

Posted by: Nicolas De Walo | September 4, 2008 1:58 PM " You're not serious?! Even as humor it's in terrible taste. Where would you go back to? You're not a 'yankee'. Go back into your shell.

Posted by: Reinhard | September 4, 2008 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Shocked: An English teacher. Ever visited Hotsoup? Your post reads almost word for word like the English teacher that showed up there.

Posted by: Rich | September 4, 2008 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Really insightful column, Doug. One pro-Palin comment followed by one anti-Palin comment. Once again, the media is going to treat an election like an American Idol slugfest, instead of doing true journalistic work.

Posted by: Media Let Down | September 4, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

speaking of Obama and Palin., Funny cartoon up at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Its Hallarious

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a CHEERLEADER. She will be confined to stump speeches and "sound-bites" until her handlers deem her ready.

Until she can step into the HEAT of Sunday morning talk, or a one on one interview, she is a lightweight.

When will she be "allowed" to stand on her own two feet by the RNC?

She hasn't taken any questions from reporters.

Posted by: SueMVeteran | September 4, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

The rights of women are not served by having a single ideology, in which all women are subscribed. Defining women’s rights in such a way denies the many voices of women, and their diversity of views. Ideology is the power of slavery and the enemy of independent free thinking.

Palin is labeled as anti woman because she does not support abortion. I think the right to choose, is the right to say that you can be feminist without supporting abortion. That you can be for responsibility, for birth control, that there are other options besides abortion.

On the issue of gay rights, there is civil marriage which is a legal contract binding two citizens together in a partnership. I can see no legal reason for anyone to restrict this right to enter into a partnership as long as one can enter the agreement with a sound mind as in any legal contract. As for the religious definition of marriage that should be left to religious groups to define.

The democratic ideals sought by the founders of our country embraced the idea, of freedom, by granting freedom to others with whom we have opposing views. Our collective freedom is guaranteed only by allowing the other to have freedom to oppose our views.

As a nation our greatest strength is the diversity of voices and opinions we have as citizens. In this election, I choose to embrace diversity by supporting local democrats, while supporting the Republicans in the Presidency. Why? I think the democrats, and the mass media at large, have subverted the voices of middle class, working families. Democratic leadership with help from the mass media has injected their opinions, and desires, for those of whom they represent. They have the opinion, that they know what is best. After all, we are a republic, not a true democracy. The problem as I see it is that we have the worst of both. We elect our leaders in a popularity contest, which we call democratic, while we are governed as a republic.

The democratic leadership, made a political calculation in which they felt that they could ignore the will of middle class America, and women in particular, because what choice did they have but come back and support the candidate they chose, due to issues such as abortion, and gay rights. The democrats have played the fear card that they have stated is reprehensible, complaining that the republicans have used fear in past elections to win.

The stakes cannot be higher. If the democrats prevail, it will signal to Democratic leaders that middle class Americans can be taken for granted. It means that your power to influence government is diminished. This result must be avoided at all costs. Defeat means an America, ever more divided, further separating from the middle and moving toward the extremes. If history is to be a teacher, then we should look to Rome. Rome's strength was her middle, and when it was lost, Rome was lost.


Voting for McCain/Palin is a matter of voting country first. It is stepping outside of us and doing what is best for the whole. A large group of people today have grown up in an innately selfish world. They have little experience in relegating themselves to the common good of all. If America is to once again regain her luster, we must once again place ourselves as servants to the idea of America.

Posted by: Kmberly Peacock | September 4, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama has Plenty Of Ammo to attack Her with. I am sure Obama will be cranking out the ads soon enough. Then Palin will have to deal with troopergate and The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com They have alot of info/ammo that will probably be used against Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 7:44 PM | Report abuse

speaking of Obama and Palin., Funny cartoon up at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Its Hallarious.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

OHHHHHH

I'M SO SMART!


LOOK WHAT I WROTE!!!!

GOD DAMNED IDIOTS!

ALL OF YOU!


OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASHOLES,

EVERYONE HAS ONE AND IT STINKS!

What is the point of writing your opinion.

Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.

Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind!

YOU HAVE NO POINT YOU STUPID DOLTS

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

OHHHHHH!!!!!!

I'M SO SMART!!!!!


LOOK WHAT I WROTE!!!!

GOD DAMNED IDIOTS!

ALL OF YOU!

What is the point of writing your opinion.

Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.

Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind!

YOU HAVE NO POINT YOU STUPID DOLTS

Posted by: Embarassed by American FOOLS | September 4, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

OHHHHHH!!!!

I'M SO SMART!


LOOK WHAT I WROTE!!!!

GOD DAMNED IDIOTS!

ALL OF YOU!

What is the point of writing your opinion.

Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.

Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind!

YOU HAVE NO POINT YOU STUPID DOLTS

Posted by: WHO CARES | September 4, 2008 7:27 PM | Report abuse

OHHHHHH

I'M SO SMART!


LOOK WHAT I WROTE!!!!

GOD DAMNED IDIOTS!

ALL OF YOU!

What is the point of writing your opinion.

Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.

Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind!

YOU HAVE NO POINT YOU STUPID DOLTS

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

regleoboy said, "...she is someone who will stand toe-to-toe with [Democratic vice presidential nominee Joseph] Biden in a debate. It would be a terrible mistake for Biden to approach this woman from a position of empathy... Palin has officially fired-up the Democratic base and as we thank her, we shall proceed to "squash" her..."

? Wasilla's mayor against the most knowledgeable guy in the US Senate? Are these gullible republicans clueless? But bring it on; i'm going to bet that when she's out of information she'll start calling Biden a liberal, a sinner, a communist, a left-wing, a liberal, a ...a...poopy head

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Mr Schmit, Mr Rove and Senator McCain don't worry about the Obama/Biden response to Gov. Sarah Palin's speech at the Republican convention

The Republican's problem is Jon Stewart and Steve Colbert on the Sarah Palin Choice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGCRncVOkS0

Please go easy with your attacks on Jon and Steve they have millions of fans.

Join Americans who put their country first!

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Obamacan Woman | September 4, 2008 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Who are these people who have decided after hearing one speech that she's great. She's a woman and so smart? Did they not see the teleprompter rolling next to her? Did they think she wrote her own speech? That speech was written for a man, because the speechwriter hadn't expected the VP pick to be a woman. The speechwriter admitted on camera that he had to feminize the speech. The only part of her speech that had anything to do with Sarah was the vitriolic tone of voice she used as she read someone else's lines, and the spellbinding mention of her fascinating family.

Posted by: Ugh | September 4, 2008 7:19 PM | Report abuse

basementfrog,

Did you mean to write, "This is how republicans enjoy their peaches?"

*

I think they do enjoy their peaches, not just their speeches...

Posted by: attictoad | September 4, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

This is how republicans give speaches: rarely do the facts support their positions or even the off the wall remarks. Her votes, Senior Huchabuck, were 909; Biden recieved 79,754

But there was nothing in her speech and she never told anything truthful about herself just a bunch of info that was totally false - even as the news about her is coming out in buckets. Her response to that was attacking the press..what a joke.

Explain why Levi Johnston shouldn't be arrested as a pedophile.

How can she protect the country if she can't protect her own kids from pedophiles?

This is his second child; the first was with a 13 year old girl. Even by Alaskan standards (which are very loose) that is a bit young.

Sick.... really sick... yea, we want her in the White House. Her and her husband are good evangelicals, and typical of the breed. But lets move on to other issues.

Her husband and daughter: is child #5 really Sarah's? I don' believe so after looking at family photos on the internet. The eldest daughter is the mother for sure, but is the father of that child Sarah's husband? Let's do a little DNA test.

Will she support states that wish to secede from the United States, since her and her husband were both in a party pushing to have Alaska secede from the Union?

Will she legalize pot since she smokes it herself?

Will she change her position and start supporting unwed mothers, particularly teens so they can finish an education through college?

Last night, this woman was pathetic. Nothing to say that was grounded in reality and less to say about solving our problems except continue the same old republican bull that has existed since Reagan and have proven a failure to all but the rich.

What a joke on McCain by his own party.

And today from the same group that exposed Edwards, the news is she had an affair...oh, no.

Posted by: basementfrog | September 4, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Reading all these comments has been enlightening. I knew that people could be vituperative and mean-spirited, but I haven't seen it on this scale before! I'm truly shocked at how some of the posters here treat each other.

I'm also confused...people are saying that Palin's speech was mean-spirited, and that she attacked Obama's character. I watched it, and didn't get any of those vibes. Just like Obama, she was a dynamic speaker who said what her audience wanted to hear. I took her comments about Obama's record as a "community organizer" as challenges to Obama to show what he has accomplished, something Obama has NOT done. In her speech, she did her job as a vice-presidential candidate: Promote the party's presidential candidate and their joint goals for their potential jobs. She defended herself, as she needed to.

What I don't understand is why the press has not questioned Obama the same way they have pounced all over Palin. They have been throwing him softballs for 18 months, almost sycophantically following his every move. And yet, for all his polished speaking, I have yet to hear anything that says he is a guy I want to follow. I have yet to hear true substance. I have yet to see him tout his accomplishments, and show us how he will continue them as he gains the highest office. For me, Obama comes off too slick, too polished. I want to know "where's the beef?" I felt that Palin had more "meat" in her speech than anything I've heard Obama say so far.

As I was driving home from work today, the thought occurred to me that there are many polished, energetic speakers who have rallied people behind them in history. Some have done great things--Winston Churchill, Thomas Paine, both Franklin and Theodore Roosevelt, and many women as well. But there have been other polished, dynamic speakers who rallied people behind them who have done horrible things--Fidel Castro, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin. Character counts. Background counts. Accomplishments count. I will vote for someone I feel is capable of accomplishing what they say they are going to do and who shares the values I consider important.

McCain has accomplished many things. So what if he's 72? I'll bet there are a bunch of 72-year-olds out there who could tell you a thing or two about how young and accomplished they are.

Obama has accomplished...umm...what, exactly? So what if he's black? I'll bet there are a lot of black people out there who could tell you a thing or two about how intelligent and accomplished they are.

Stereotypes do us no good. Petty bickering achieves nothing. Look at the substance behind the speeches, look at the records of the people. Ask the hard questions. Find the answers. Make your decisions based on independent investigation.

And for God's sake, please make an effort to proofread your posts before clicking "submit"! Nothing makes people look more foolish and unintelligent than poor grammar and spelling. (sorry...English teacher moment!)

Posted by: Shocked | September 4, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

"That's right, folks. Liberalism is running scared, scared of the truth, scared of the reality that this nation is a conservative nation.

The end of liberalism is clearly on the horizon. Fear is heralding its demise.

But there's no need to fear. There's a cure.

Open your mind to the truth, know the truth, and join the cause for truth. Fear is no way of life. Live the truth."


Posted by: John Anthony | September 4, 2008 3:22 PM


I'm with you, man!

Posted by: Open Mind | September 4, 2008 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Palin's firings and critic of Obama not like Jesus??? Matthew 21:12 Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. 13"It is written," he said to them, " 'My house will be called a house of prayer,'but you are making it a 'den of robbers.'" Matthew 23:27 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean."

Posted by: Have actually read bible | September 4, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

Congrats Sarah Palin, Youll be a great Vice President., Or President for that matter. If you want to learn more about Sarah Palin or her Back Ground they have alot of Background Info, Pics, Videos, about Sarah and her Family. http://www.veeppeek.com The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"So why the fuss about her speech, it wasn't even her own"

When the words came out of her mouth, they became hers. If the speech didn't represent her true views, she should have sent it back for a rewrite with more guidance for the speechwriters. What you have is either a woman who thinks more nastiness and divisiveness is what this country needs right now, or who was manipulated by the party.

Neither option reflects well on who she is.

Posted by: patriot | September 4, 2008 6:18 PM | Report abuse

speaking of Obama and Palin., Has anyone else seen the new political cartoon at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Thats really funny.

Posted by: Dann | September 4, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

For Palin supporters.

Can you please explain what part about wanting to ban book doesn't set off alarm bells in your head (and why).

Can you please explain how it could not inflict further harm on this nation to elect someone who appears strongly committed to taking the divisiveness of the last 8 years and racheting it up a notch?

Can you explain why it is OK with you to tell workers they have no right to free speech to talk to the media without your permission? Would it matter if your boss was a Democrat who was supporting policies you abhor?

Can you explain what you are expecting to get out of her reign? If you make less than 100K/yr, do you believe that more deregulation and supply side economics will benefit your pocketbook? Do you think that the neocons currently whispering in McCain's ear about Iran and Russia are right that more war is the answer? Are you expecting them to really change anything (and if so, what?)? Or are you OK with Hillary Clinton deciding what you can read, what you can say, and whether or not you deserve health care? (wasn't an error, if you give SArah Palin that power in this election, you might be giving it to Hillary in the next)

Posted by: patriot | September 4, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Some dufus said the right wing was gullible as Palin's speech was written by speechwriters.......hey idiot....do you think Osama Obama's speech is crafted by himself in some darkly lit cave by candlelight?
Please get a life.

Posted by: PRH | September 4, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

A politician making use of a speech writer? The devil you say! I'm sure Barry O!'s messages of hope and change (all 1,140 of them...yeah, yeah, we get it) we simply farted out of the unicorn he rode into town on.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

The mentality of the right wing is clearly on display. They never heard of this woman until about a minute and a half ago. She reads one speech that someone else wrote for her, tells a few half truths about her record, and now she's the greatest thing since sliced bread? Talk about gullible.

Posted by: john | September 4, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech was interesting in many ways. As someone who is little-known to the public, she exhibited a natural poise and a fresh manner of speaking. However, she spoke mainly of her resume and little of the issues and how the McCain/Palin ticket would help average Americans.

I am disappointed in the slams against community service - this is a very important part of 'giving back.' I have volunteered for many years with different organizations and it has been very rewarding. I don't see this as an accomplishment of Obama's to attack, but to hold up as an example.

It seems that Palin's speech was full of anger and instead of trying to unite the country she succeeded in drawing lines of distinction - it's not a United States but a Democratic or Republican state. In this area I find Obama's speech far more inspiring.

Obama recognized average Americans and empathized with their recent plights. This was not even touched on by Palin.

As far as experience - I'm from a small town and have known several of the mayors. I would not say their experience as mayor would make them qualified for the potential of becoming President. A partial term as governor in one of the smaller population states does give her some executive experience, but it's not like that of California, New York and the sort.

I'm not swayed on the issues that she stands for either. She would take away a woman's right to choose, add more conservative judges to the Supreme Court, teach abstinence only in schools, possibly ban books.... that's not what I want for my children.

Posted by: Amy | September 4, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

It was a couple of speech writers who gave Palin a script to teleprompt. So why the fuss about her speech, it wasn't even her own. On another theme. McCain and the republicans always mention how successful the Iraqi surge was. What they don't tell you is that the insurgents were bought off with millions of dollars thanks to the American taxpayer.

Posted by: tom | September 4, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Good call Ted.

Yes, sometimes history rhymes, which means if you mixed in a beat track and a melody you could dance to it.

So let's re-arrange the deck chairs kids. The Titanic GOP Band, with lead vocalist Sarah Palin, is about play another lovely number called, "Katrina" while we all drown.

Posted by: John Quimby | September 4, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I say we round up all the libs, and execute every last one of them. Love it or leave it.

Hail Sarah!

Posted by: Tim Gustafson | September 4, 2008 5:41 PM | Report abuse

First off I think Sarah Palin's speech was great. Some of the comments in here about it being mean and full of hate are pretty funny. They obviously didn't listen to Joltin Joe Biden's speed a week ago. It wasn't exactly full of love and comradire for Republicans. She was doing what VP canidates do which is attack the other guys. I also love the Post's opinion writer's going on and on about her experience. Let's see she's been mayor of her home town for 8 years, ran for lieutenant governor of Alaska which she barely lost and been governor of Alaska for two years. Obama was in the Illinois state senate where he missed most of the votes and been in the U.S. Senate for less than 4 years of which I believe he's been running for president just about every one of them and Obama's at the top of the ticket.

Posted by: RobT | September 4, 2008 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I kinda feel sorry for the democrats. They come so close and then its like Lucy yanking the ball away from Charlie Brown.

Posted by: CE | September 4, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

The mindless rants herein prove the liberal whackos are scared s**tless of Palin and McCain. (It seems a continuation of the "Reagan revolution")

Serves 'em right for dusting off the same old tired crap espoused by Carter, Gore, Kerry, Obama, and the other socialist idiots like Soros and Olberman. Did they really think that dressing up some black guy in a $1000 suit would change the taste of liberal bile, or hypnotize voters with the illusion of change. These sycophants need to move to Las Vegas in masse...start a show,with smoke, mirrors and Obama's head in a Lion's mouth.

We can then set Palin and McCain loose reforming Washington one lib at a time til they are all out of office where they can no longer pass earmark filled socialist legislation.

Posted by: PRH | September 4, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't see why anyone would be surprised that Ms Palin could deliver a speech, knowing her background in politics and her educational background. That no one should doubt. However, my boss is an excellent speaker and writes her own speeches. So I'm not sure what Ms Palin's speech proves.

My concern is her questionable background. I found that the Media validated information I already found on her past on the morning Mr McCain's selection was announced. We live in a different age now. With a little bit of effort we don't have to rely on the Media.

If one does his/her own homework and performs his/her own investigation one will be able to find out the truth. Many people just like to determine the validity of a candidate by judging the speeches.

There is more to Ms Palin than what you can hear in a speech. Much of what I have learned about Ms Palin is unacceptable for a public servant.

Posted by: Linda | September 4, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

There is only one God, and he loves all Americans; unless you are gay, liberal, muslom or a democrat.

Sarah and John will be the herbingers of change this country needs. We have lost our way from the good shpeard, and they will show us the light.

I pray God grants us the strength as a nation to grant these two humble servants entrance to his kingdom - the white house.

Only then will we have the power to execute the final solution on all of the liberals, gays and moslems in this country. Only then will WE the people of the true aerican party have the power to collect all of you into little boxes on trains and haul you off to suffers hells fire!

Hail Sarah!

Posted by: listen | September 4, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Nielsen tells us that 37.2 million watched Governor Palin last night ......including 19 million women. The electorate is absolutely electrified .


If Mc Cain wins and serves his first term ending in 2012 ........Palins' victory for 2 subsequent terms could hold the Executive Branch till 2020 for our side and for hunters.
https://secure.donationreport.com/donation.html?key=5SEMNE8YBQXB

Here's one for you and the NRA,SCI, SFW ,etc...; how many Americans bought hunting licenses last year?

Might want to get a photo of Palin and her daughter with that caribou she shot to feed her family.
Think of the symbolism of that woman bringing home healthy game meat to feed her family and how she will protect the rights of 12 million American women and men to do the same.

Now THERE is something that 527's can get their arms around to impact the
outcome of the election while simultaneously protecting our right to hunt {see # 8 in Montana Hunting Today link }
huntable game populations while there is still time to do it.

Palin is the only candidate with hands on experience & knowledge that the Endangered Species Act has become a scam for money and power.

http://montanahuntingtoday.com/blog/index.php/2008/03/11/comment-wolf-delisting-and-designation-as-distinct-population-segment/.


Sarah:
http://www.fieldandstream.com/article_gallery/Sarah-Palin-Hunting-and-Fishing-Pics/4

Posted by: rtfanning | September 4, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Obama simply spoke, firmly, and she was labeled a militant angry Black- Women terrorist. Why is what Sarah Palin did a great speech. The media wouldn't let Michelle Obama get away with that speech.

Posted by: Mickey | September 4, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Palin seems to have energized her party at the right moment in history. I remember eight years ago when they decided to back another governor with little national experience and much political appeal. This person was also the one McCain derided for his 'lack of experience'. I am an Obama supporter, but I am looking forward to seeing how this turns out. To quote Mark Twain, "History doesn't always repeat itself, but it does rhyme occasionally." I wonder if we will once again have to pay for listening to this doggerel verse?

Posted by: Ted | September 4, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

This whole debate is just a distraction from the basic truth that the Republicans, for all their snappy zingers, have absolutely no solutions to the serious issues facing our country.

There is just no need to compare Obama's experience to Palin's. Palin isn't even in the same league, let alone ballpark.

The Republican story is so thin that they had to compare Palin's mayoral experience from 2 years ago to Obama's days as a community organizer 20 years ago. At the time he was working to help struggling families, she was struggling to be a sportscaster. But to be fair, she was probably making important executive decisions to defend traditional patriotic Americans from those liberal media elitists at ESPN.

This is why the Republican party had to invent a new kind of experience called "executive experience" where the only thing that matters is that you're a Decider, not that you make good decisions.

Did Bush's years of this "executive" experience provide him with the slightest wisdom, insight, or judgement?

How did Abraham Lincoln, an Illinois lawyer, state senator and Member of the US House of Representatives (sound familiar?), with none of this magical executive experience manage to be one of our greatest presidents?

The only thing that matters is which Presidential candidate has the better plan for America's future. McCain has no plan, just a bunch of sarcastic jokes. But hey, i'm not sure if you heard, he's a war hero.

Posted by: RUExperienced? | September 4, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

just 5 more -- "I've read that college students seem to be very taken with Gov. Palin." That's because college guys like hot MILFs.

Posted by: HotforSarah | September 4, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

RoBoTech -- yeah, you're incredible. We need more people like you. I can't distinguish between those two things. You appear to be both.

Posted by: MikeinPhilly | September 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

LOL, speaking of Obama and Palin., Funny cartoon up at http://www.mccanes.com of Palin and Obama., Its Hallarious. Its like a Jib Jab almost

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

First off, it's "elitist" not "elite", ya morans.
Palin can read lies her handlers feed her from a teleprompter, but she'll be no match against the passive aggressive master, Biden. Sarah will be gutted and drained. Biden will be playing with entrails by the end of it.

Posted by: JohnnyCumsOnPalin | September 4, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm interested in how this will play out on college campuses. I've read that college students seem to be very taken with Gov. Palin.

Posted by: just 5 more minutes | September 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

This time last week most of these right wingers never even heard of Sarah Palin. Now they're ready to put her in the White House? How pathetic and irresponsible is that?

Posted by: view from the couch | September 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin quote in her acceptance speech V.P.:

"As for my running mate, you can be certain that wherever he goes, and whoever is listening, John McCain is the same man. I'm not a member of the permanent political establishment.
And I've learned quickly, these past few days, that if you're not a member in good standing of the Washington elite, then some in the media consider a candidate unqualified for that reason alone."

"But here's a little news flash for all those reporters and commentators: I'm not going to Washington to seek their good opinion - I'm going to Washington to serve the people of this country. Americans expect us to go to Washington for the right reasons, and not just to mingle with the right people."

"The right reason is to challenge the status quo, to serve the common good, and to leave this nation better than we found it."

"But we are expected to govern with integrity, good will, clear convictions, and ... a servant's heart."

"I pledge to all Americans that I will carry myself in this spirit as vice president of the United States. This was the spirit that brought me to the governor's office, when I took on the old politics as usual in Juneau ... when I stood up to the special interests, the lobbyists, big oil companies, and the good-ol' boys network."

"Sudden and relentless reform never sits well with entrenched interests and power brokers. That's why true reform is so hard to achieve."

"But with the support of the citizens of Alaska, we shook things up. And in short order we put the government of our state back on the side of the people."

"I came to office promising major ethics reform, to end the culture of self-dealing. And today, that ethics reform is the law"

The question for both McCain and Palin is that if they are "Marvicks" and against the status quo and for ethic reform and win the White House, will they pursue Karl Rove and the Bush Administration, who are the Washington elite, in the corruption of the Justice Department, Valeri Plame, Jack Abramoff and the Don Segalman cases?

Posted by: the Monk | September 4, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

"RoBoTech -- Obama didn't ridule McCain, or insult him personally. He attacked his positions. Palin belittled Obama's former occupation, and made other personal attacks. It's completely different even if you can't distinguish."
That's YOUR side of it, I already said mine. I can distinguish juuuust fine. I can distinguish between a buffoon and a hypocrite, and I think I have you nailed.
Take your pick, it won't be wrong, LOL.

Posted by: RoBoTech | September 4, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

RoBoTech -- Obama didn't ridule McCain, or insult him personally. He attacked his positions. Palin belittled Obama's former occupation, and made other personal attacks. It's completely different even if you can't distinguish.

Posted by: MikeinPhilly | September 4, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"the crux of the criticism of her speech is that it was so chocked full of nasty quips that she demeaned herself as a candidate."
Hypocrite.
I guess you already forgot that Obama, in his fantasy Greek God speech last week, spent the first twenty minutes pounding on McCain.
WOW, the hypocritical buffoons are out in drove today!
Palin has scared the libtards poopless, and I luv it, Haaahaaaa!

Posted by: RoBoTech | September 4, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Top 5 reasons to not vote for McCain and Republicans.

They are going to repeat the “Bush” disaster. No matter how much they try to distance themselves from Bush, McCain and the Republicans will carry on with the same agenda and tactics. McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time and have you noticed that creeps and crooks like Karl Rove and Tom Delay are reemerging within the party?

2) Economy in shambles, Tax cuts misplaced: By almost every measure, the economy is in much worse shape than it was when Bush took office, No one can deny this. And the very tax cuts for the rich that have failed to work are once again being touted by McCain. Tax cuts should be given to the middle class because the money will be spent and the economy will be benefit as a result. Rich people have so much money to begin with, giving them more will not move the consumption needle.

3) They don’t honor our troops, they abuse them. A few examples:
They sent our troops to war in Iraq based on lies and fabricated evidence. Thousands of brave men and women have been killed or seriously wounded needlessly. Our moral standing in the world is greatly diminished.
They blamed the Abu Ghraib prison debacle on a few low level soldiers when as we now know Rumsfeld and the upper brass ordered and condoned it. Instead of taking responsibility, these cowards sent many of the soldiers that followed their orders to jail.
The tough talking Bush, Cheney and Giuliani’s’ of the world ran like cowards during the Vietnam War using preferential draft deferments and connections to enlist in the save haven of the National Guard.
Severely wounded returning troops were put up in rat and mold infested hospital rooms, the armed services refuse to acknowledge and treat vets with psychological problems.

4) McCain’s judgment is poor. He voted for the Iraq war, he does not want to set timeline for withdrawal, even as the Iraq government is asking for one. He chose a very green and inexperienced running mate, Sarah Palin. By some estimates she has a 40% chance of assuming the presidency given McCain’s age and his health history. Does anyone seriously think she is prepared to serve as commander in chief?

5) They are going to continue to screw the average American, under the guise of giving people more freedom. For example, they will:
Offer $5,000 health care credits which will eventually relieve employers of paying for any health care benefits. And note that this is a credit, so one will need to pay at least $5,000 in taxes to get it. For millions more, it will mean less or no health coverage.
Replace social security by borrowing $5 trillion (yes trillion) dollars from the likes of China, and on behalf of the taxpayer, to create Private Savings accounts on Wall Street. These accounts will be established by the same investment banks that brought us the mortgage crisis and that pay their fired CEO’s millions in severance pay. I can hear them licking their chops now, just imagine the fees they’ll rake in! No wonder they are ones pushing this plan.

Posted by: John - Maine | September 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Well, Cheney is busy ruffling the feathers of Russia so he can create a situation where McCain will win blustering presidentially. Then the old fart will die, and we will have the Dominionist Assembly of God President (these people make evangelicals look absolutely heathen). God help us. She is the neo-cons neo con.

Posted by: tmc prods | September 4, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Jordan, that was me saying that. I'm talking about the fact that George W evaded real military service, then lied about his whereabouts while in the National Guard. That's cowardice.

Posted by: Confounded | September 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Palin says she told Washington D.C., "no thanks to the bridge to nowhere." However, according to the newspapers in Alaska, Washington, D.C. turned Alaska down, NOT the other way around. I'm from a small town too, and in the small town that I'm from, we people like Palin liars. How sad, that in her first major address to the nation, Palin is happy to lie for her GOP handlers.

Posted by: tired of the lies | September 4, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

"Palin's comments were very disturbing - great she can read a teleprompter but the speach she presented wasn't hers and she has already admitted that."

And you actually think Obama writes his own speeches?
You are naive. I guess we are colonizing Mars, too. At least, in your world.
It's a rare thing for ANY of the candidates to write their own entire speeches.
And by the way, the teleprompter quit a 1/3 of the way thru Palin's speech and guess what? She finished her speech without um...ahh....ohhh...umm.....sniffle....scratch....huuuummmm
That sound familiar? It should, we've been listening to it for 20 months when Obama gets away from HIS teleprompter.
Palin even threw in some ad lib. The Pit bull joke. Smoooooth.

Posted by: RoBoTech | September 4, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Harmony -- well said!

Posted by: MikeinPhilly | September 4, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

"dishonest person and coward (George W. Bush)"

Dan, I like how you state Bush is a coward, quite the oposite.. he turned the view of the united states from cowards afraid to take action.. to mess with us and you will get %#@$%@.. far from a coward.. i'd call Clinton a coward for not taking action during his presidency

Posted by: Jordan | September 4, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

julie, the crux of the criticism of her speech is that it was so chocked full of nasty quips that she demeaned herself as a candidate. Of course the Republicans are going to say "what a great speech it was." What else could they say. And the fact that the speech was primarily strung together one-liners that were fed to her by McCain's team makes her "performance" all the more unremarkable. An honorable candidate would not trash their opponent like she did. Obama and Biden pointed out their disagreements with McCain, and where they believed McCain was wrong, but they didn't ridicule or diminish McCain. That's because Obama, being far more capable than Palin, wrote his own speech. In a sense, Palin should be angry with McCain's team, who gave her the poisonous speech and that's the speech she had to read. I am guessing that if she actually had written her own speech, or had enough time to revise what she was given, she wouldn't have gotten down in the gutter and been so classless.

Posted by: MikeinPhilly | September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Palin's comments were very disturbing - great she can read a teleprompter but the speach she presented wasn't hers and she has already admitted that. Secondly, she is mean spirited and that won't heal what ails us in this country nor help with global crises that we must cooperate with internationally to solve. Lastly, despite all the adoration being heaped upon her and expectation from her- it won't provide protection from the harsh realities of Washington or Moscow or Tehran or Beijing.
Her apparent lack of understanding for what she portends to achieve is truely frightening as she and the rest of this country may come to realize. So far it has all been great fun and exciting for her and her family. But when the popularity fades and the expectations come due only then, and you who support her, will Mrs. Palin realize the depths of her naivete and the extent that you've all been decived by the republican machine. Want evidence? Just look at how the republican machine (miltary/industrial/banking) used a dupe like George Bush, who actually thinks he is one of them, to further their own ends -namely money and power to control others to his and our detriment. His popularity is at an all time low. They couldn't care less - they got what they wanted out of him. And most certainly they'll use her and they'll use all of you who would throw your vote away on her and the John McCain distraction. You want small town virtues? You won't find them with the GOP. Come away from the dark side and vote Obama/Biden - it is with them where you will find the future.

Posted by: Bryan Jordan, Austin, TX | September 4, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have chosen an attack dog. Palin is bright and ambitious and a fast learner. It took hours of practice to deliver that cleverly worded assault on the Democrats. She didn't write it, of course, except for the "lip-stick" line which I took to be an ad-lib. It is not appropriate to compare her credentials to Obama's. She is running for VP. He is running for President. If we really think that she has a good chance of stepping into the office of the Presidency, then we need to be very concerned about electing John McCain. That's where our focus needs to be. Do we really want to elect a 72 year old man who has had four bouts with cancer, the last one very serious? Do we really want to elect this man who has sold his authentic self to the right wing ideologues in order to satisfy his thirst for the Presidency? McCain, in his heart, is pro-choice. He was a maverick who fought for more ethical government. But, he has abdicated his moral authority for the support of the right wing base. What a sad commentary on our electoral process.

Posted by: Harmony | September 4, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

"Can't wait to hear that collective sigh of fear/angst from white folks when the results come in and Obama is the Pres.

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 3:36 PM "

Can't wait?
Then you might as well end it all right now.
Either way, you'll be waiting forever.
But don't let any of us stop you from going to Obama Hell, LOL.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Palin's comments were very disturbing - great she can read a teleprompter but the speach she presented wasn't hers and she has already admitted that. Secondly, she is mean spirited and that won't heal what ails us in this country nor help with global crises that we must cooperate with internationally to solve. Lastly, despite all the adoration being heaped upon her and expectation from her- it won't provide protection from the harsh realities of Washington or Moscow or Tehran or Beijing.
Her apparent lack of understanding for what she portends to achieve is truely frightening as she and the rest of this country may come to realize. So far it has all been great fun and exciting for her and her family. But when the popularity fades and the expectations come due only then, and you who support her, will Mrs. Palin realize the depths of her naivete and the extent that you've all been decived by the republican machine. Want evidence? Just look at how the republican machine (miltary/industrial/banking) used a dupe like George Bush, who actually thinks he is one of them, to further their own ends -namely money and power to control others to his and our detriment. His popularity is at an all time low. They couldn't care less - they got what they wanted out of him. And most certainly they'll use her and they'll use all of you who would throw your vote away on her and the John McCain distraction. You want small town virtues? You won't find them with the GOP. Come away from the dark side and vote Obama/Biden - it is with them where you will find the future.

Posted by: Bryan Jordan, Austin, TX | September 4, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse


Nancy Reagan 'Very Impressed' by Obama and disappointed by Mccain VP choice, Ron jr Says:
I can tell you though that she’s also very impressed with Barack Obama...she’s just impressed by his demeanor, is not just that he’s an eloquent guy and a guy who gives a good speech, a lot of people said that about my father too. But she sees through that. She’s been around a long time and she looks at Barack Obama and she sees the words,
hears the words and she perceives character there. She thinks this is a good guy, a guy who means well and is a strong character,
Sarah Palin is in no way qualified to be vice president or certainly president. John McCain is a 72 year old cancer survivor, not just any cancer,
melanoma. Not just any melanoma, melanoma above the neck. It was his obligation to choose somebody who could realistically step into the big chair and Sarah Palin is not that person.

Posted by: Jack | September 4, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone notice that not only isn't the incumbent GOP President at his party's own convention, he barely even rates a mention. How embarrassing is that? GOP policies over the last eight years have been so abysmally bad that now the GOP is running against Washington! In effect, they're running against themselves. And some of the far right nit wits are buying it! Never underestimate the stupidity of the right wing.

Posted by: view from the couch | September 4, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse


Every canidate has speech writers.

Why is it news that Sarah uses one? hmmm?

More sexist double standards from the libs.

Posted by: julie | September 4, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

The democrats didn't address the issues until Obama spoke...it's the same with the republicans...McCain will address the issue. So your "no substance" remarks show you have no ability to think or speak for yourself. Repeating talking points puts you on the same parity as a parrot.

As far as the remarks about the GOP having had control of Congress..I would like to point out the favorable rating of Congress is but a fraction of what it was when the dems took over two years ago. It is the lowest I have ever seen. We have Reid and Pelosi to thank for that...and last time I looked...they have a D next to their name which either stands for democrat or dunce. Either way it probably interchangeable.

Posted by: dan | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Did you notice how Sarah Palin mocked constitutional rights that citizens of this country enjoy? What does it say about her readiness for the White House, when she doesn't believe in the basic constitutional principles on which this country was founded? And some of you are arguing that she's better qualified than a former constitutional law professor and form editor of the Harvard Law Review. Unbelievable. Part of the problem may be the increasingly low standards we have accepted of presidents. First a criminal albeit a smart one (Nixon), then a lying sleazeball (Clinton), then a completely arrogant, dishonest person and coward (George W. Bush). We are in a race to the bottom that has people wanting to wear ignorance on their sleeve like a badge of honor. Why would we settle for such mediocrity when we can choose the excellent? I am at a loss.

Posted by: Confounded | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I see you wrote a whole lot. Too bad I lost interest and didn't read most of it. Hope you feel better.

Posted by: To: Palin's trailer has become unhitched | September 4, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I think the books Palin wanted banned from the public library were, Audacity of Hope, Dreams from My Father, Change We Can Belive In and Barack Obama in His Own Words. Plus anything from Oprah's Book Club just because.

Posted by: To Washington For Anne79 | September 4, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Liberalism is not dead. It is the cornerstone of our democracy you theocratic idiots.

And just because we am liberal doesn't mean when the civil war comes we will have mercy on your children. No. You pigs deserve to have them cooked and fed to you!

The real war for the soul of this country is just about to begin. Look at all th liberals getting killed by these right wing crazies!

Posted by: look here | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

John Anthony, I will be happy just to remain "ignorant" and not know the "truth" as you see it. Good bye.

Posted by: Elite Liberal | September 4, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

God is on our side!

And yes, he HATES Moslems.

Nuke em and take their oil!


Hail Palin!

Posted by: Right and Right | September 4, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Elite Liberal,

When did I mention anything about God?

I'm talking about the state of our nation.

Where do you get this stuff?

Know the truth.

Think about it.

Posted by: John Anthony | September 4, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Susan, I will miss your racism.

Posted by: Pointy-Headed Liberal | September 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Lordsaveus | September 4, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

nomorelies -- yes! yes! "I thank God for Sarah. Without her we would be lost." Yes! Finally, Sarah H. Christ is running for VP. We are SAVED. Sarah, I accept you as my personal saviour! We were the lost sheep of Israel, but no longer! Sarah has been sent to us from above! She might be the product of a virgin birth (it could happen). Now our wars will be even more justified because now we know for a fact: God hates the same people we hate!! Yes, thank you God for having such divine judgment, and knowing who to love and who to hate. You are AWESOME!

Posted by: Lost Sheep of Israel | September 4, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

"That's right, folks. Liberalism is running scared, scared of the truth, scared of the reality that this nation is a conservative nation.

The end of liberalism is clearly on the horizon. Fear is heralding its demise.

But there's no need to fear. There's a cure.

Open your mind to the truth, know the truth, and join the cause for truth. Fear is no way of life. Live the truth."

Thnx 4 the reminder, John...

Posted by: You're so right... | September 4, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

What does it say about the GOP and their policies when speaker after speaker gets to the podium at the GOP convention and complains about Washington and Washington insiders? The GOP has controlled the WH for eight years and both houses of Congress for six of the last eight years. Are there really people out there who are so stupid and/or deluded that they can't see through such an obvious line of b.s.?

Posted by: view from the couch | September 4, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Pointy Headed Liberal said:

Well, Susan, you are wrong. I don't really need the USA (not as it has diminished to over the past eight years).

PHL,
That is pathetic. Just go vote for Revend Wright and his junior mentor, Obama, and don't puff up like a blowfish or cry about it.
Again, the USA doesn't need weak-knee liberals who are afraid to vote for a woman.
I think if you do leave America after McCain/Palin ticket wins, you should move to
Syria, Cuba, or Saudi Arabia. There, women are second class citizens who sit down and shut up. I think you may be in the wrong country to begin with.
In any case - I'm out of here. This conversation is over!

Posted by: Susan | September 4, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

John Anthony -- you won't believe it. I prayed to God. You know, the one who told us to take over Iraq. And he opened my eyes to the TRUTH. You are so right! Yes, now I see. And Jesus, what a flaming liberal fool! The Sermon on the Mount. Ha! Yes, thank you John for that wisdom. Finally I can be free and happy and proud. (The hell with those poor people, people without health insurance, winers and all the rest!). You have saved me!!!! Thank you! Thank you!

Posted by: Elite [Enlightened] Liberal | September 4, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"God is on our side, and he hates moslems like Obama!"

Awesome. Do you also hate Hundos and Biddhusts and Murmuns?

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey look, we're the Right and we have no substance! Hey look, there's the Queen of No Substance, let us worship her!

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I like hurricanes up in my anus.

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

For Anne79: What were the books Palin wanted banned from the library???

Posted by: Washington | September 4, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

"Realist" is a pig. So what if her baby is retarded? That doesn't mean a thing! And so what if her daughter is with child, does that really make her a (s)lut?

I thank God for Sarah. Without her we would be lost. She is right for America, and she is just fine for the GOP. We are the true party of America. That's why we keep winning!

God is on our side, and he hates moslems like Obama!

Posted by: nomorelies | September 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not VP material. Any idiot can see that. She's a cheap "made in China" imitation. Republican have NO CHOICE but to pretend they're thrilled with her. They at least have to convince themselves. Denial to avoid shame or embarrassment is a powerful force.

Posted by: General Tso | September 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Note to Sarah Palin...Susan B. Anthony was a community organizer. Your pants suit wouldn't be the same without her laughable accomplishments. Suffrage? Psh! Who needs that? Damn pesky community organizers...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

For Stokely and Huey and Malcolm

GO OBAMA!!!

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is not VP material. Any idiot can see that. She's a cheap "made in China" imitation.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

PHL,


You're wasting precious packing time.

Are you taking your flip-flops with you?

*

Posted by: John Anthony | September 4, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

John Anthony, thanks for the trite BS. Go back to your guns and bible. By the way, are you a Christian? What did Pontius Pilate say, "truth, [ha!,] what does truth mean?"

Posted by: Elite Liberal | September 4, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

This is all too funny, you right wingers didn’t even know who Palin was last week and now you think she is God. That speaks volumes about how desperate yall are for a leader.. What you have on your hands is a cheap reality TV star not a vice president... I cant wait for the reality TV show "Life with the Palins" to air on Fox next spring as Obama & Biden take back the White House!!!

Posted by: April | September 4, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

DC,

Find a comfortable chair, friend.

You'll be waiting no less that 16 years, if at all.

This time around you'll see the first woman Vice President of the United State of America in 2009.

Posted by: John Anthony | September 4, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

I saw her lips moving last night but nothing came out. Did she really say something?

Posted by: RJ | September 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Well, Susan, you are wrong. I don't really need the USA (not as it has diminished to over the past eight years). Good luck, but I'm guessing I won't have to go because President Obama will do his best to return this country to one that actually believes in the values it professes. And there just are no longer enough gullible, inattentive, or uninteligent people among American voters to carry John & Sarah into the White House. Some people let themselves get burned twice, but not three times.

Posted by: Pointy-Headed Liberal | September 4, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Joe from San Dimas is GAY!!!!

Posted by: numnah | September 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Paula said:
"I was so excited to finally see Sarah speak. I invited all my girlfriends over to watch her last night. We were buzzing with pride and excitement but by the time her speech was over we were so let down and depressed."

Paula,
You are the worst liar on this site. You have to show some effort and ability to produce credibility, you did not and have none. No doubt you are a Obamite and a closet racist who replays Reverend Wright tapes between sessions on blogs where you pretend to be a conservative with real friends.
Samantha

Posted by: Samantha | September 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

There is only one question in this election, that we, as Americans must ask...

Do we really want the world to see that our VP has a pregnant teenage (s)lut of a daughter as well as mongoloid baby?

Im a republican, and this is just embarrassing. That is the highest office America!

Did you see the little girl lick that babies head? Jesus Christ save us!

What happened to my party?

Posted by: realist | September 4, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

If Sarah Palin was "steve" Palin, every pundit, expert and reviewer would be talking about how the nominee for the V.P. spot did a Jay Leno monologue last night. You know, funny sometimes, not so funny sometimes, uncomfortable at other times. the only thing missing was an occasional guilt comment or a "throw me a bone kevin" when the joke didn't work. Spare me the Rosanne Barr condescention towards Obama. This woman stunk, from her voice (must be a mold problem in Alaska, get nasonex) to her delivery (flat and deadpan) to her repeat of jokes about bridges and pitbulls (both were already on the web last week). I was expecting to actually learn about her. Instead, I got canned one liners. This speech wouldn't get a "C" in my high school speech class.

Republicans are trying way too hard to make this lady look like she's got something we need and playing the "gender" card everytime someone from the press asks a legit. question about her. (how shameful that you would ask a "Woman" whether her special needs child may interfere with her duties as the second most powerful person in the world..you wouldn't ask a man that. YES I WOULD!!) I just have to ask, if she were a man, would any of us be interested, never mind impressed? You can put lipstick on a pig, it aint gonna be a...a pitbull.

Posted by: Marianne | September 4, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Can't wait to hear that collective sigh of fear/angst from white folks when the results come in and Obama is the Pres.

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

To Tax & Spend Dems SUCK: You are a f***ing moron. None of your comments are based in fact, as educated Republicans and Democrats both know. They are, however, extremely bigoted. And don't worry about working hard and being taxed so much by Obama... that part-time job at IHOP doesn't pay enough. You should get all your taxes back at the end of the year, unless you have no idea how to file a proper tax return.

Posted by: C | September 4, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Al from San Fran, you are right. I apologize. It's not Joe who is stupid. But in my OPINION, his OPINION is stupid because it is UNINFORMED.

Posted by: DoesCalifReallyHaveStupidPeople? | September 4, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Like I said, Palin and McCain are the final solution for the libs!

Hail Sarah!

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Pointy headed Liberal said:

"Don't worry, if McCain and Palin win, I will be ready to move out of the country, even though I love it, because I really won't be able to stand living amoung 50+ million idiots. If you're right, you'll be getting rid of me."
_____________________________
PHL,
I would have to see that in writing hotshot, because frankly I don't believe anything that you say, besides; who cares if you leave the country when McCain/Palin win? The USA doesn't need you; you need the USA!
Go Sarah!!!

Posted by: Susan | September 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

I was so excited to finally see Sarah speak. I invited all my girlfriends over to watch her last night. We were buzzing with pride and excitement but by the time her speech was over we were so let down and depressed. Maybe our expectations were too high, maybe we wanted to believe but in the end she proved to be just another negative, condescending politician. Looks like my group of gals are going to rally behind Michelle Obama's man!

Posted by: Paula | September 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

choose
progression toward the future
or complacency with the present

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Elite Liberal

I feel for you.

But there's no need to fear.

Open your mind to the truth, know the truth, and join the cause for truth.

Else you'll live in fear, and this is no way to live.

The cure to liberalism is knowing the truth.

Think about it.

Posted by: John Anthony | September 4, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Did you hear that?

That is the sound of the whole planet laughing.

We are well on our way to becoming a third world country.

God Less GOP.

Posted by: funny | September 4, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

it isn't that mother's shouldn't be vp's or presidents, but once they choose to have children, they should put their children first... submitting her 17 year old daughter to international media attention during an extremely tender time is nothing but selfish and self serving - not to mention doing this while she has a 4 month old special needs child. I'm all for her running for office, but I don't think this is the appropriate time if she cares about her children.

Also, it is so ironic that she cut funding as Governor for funds for help for single moms /teenage pregnancies in need and for services for those with special needs...

Posted by: a liberal work at home mom | September 4, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

To the one called DoesCalifReallyHaveStupidPeople? (sic):
How is it that you aren't embarrassed to show what a classless person you are?
Joe from San Dimas was expressing AN OPINION. There's no need to insult the man.

Posted by: Al from San Francisco, CA | September 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

So long, PHL.

Better start packing...

Posted by: John Anthony | September 4, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Conspiracy theory time;
if you think about the timeline between the campaign of T Boone Pikens, campaigning for natural gas automobiles, Sarah Palins 40 billion dollar pipeline, and now her being picked by McCain for vp, sounds like a total set up by the oil corps

Posted by: tim | September 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Here are some references that would prove useful on gender pay gap issues--I have access to the text but don't think I'm allowed to post it due to copyright. But if you have access to any EBSCO, JSTOR or similar research engine, you can find plenty. If someone doesn't know what things like EBSCO and JSTOR are, well then, maybe then shouldn't "poo-poo" someone for "only" being a select of among 50 governors in the US. Glass houses and all that.

It's easier to call people lemmings or whatever than to actually learn something for oneself. That's the reason we have so many problems in this country--choosing the easy over what's right.

I'm not a lawyer and never said I was. I'm a physical scientist.

Posted by: Show me the money | September 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

John Anthony, liberals are afraid of ending up with a country being led by mindless buffoons of the ilk of George W. That's what we're "running scared" of. It's not the "truth" that scares us, but the surrealism that this nighmare might actually not be a dream but reality.

Posted by: Elite Liberal | September 4, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, forgot to fill in my ID.

Susan, it's interesting that you associate getting beaten up with blacks being the perpetrators. Don't worry, if McCain and Palin win, I will be ready to move out of the country, even though I love it, because I really won't be able to stand living amoung 50+ million idiots. If you're right, you'll be getting rid of me.

Posted by: Pointy-Headed Liberal | September 4, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Susan, it's interesting that you associate getting beaten up with blacks being the perpetrators. Don't worry, if McCain and Palin win, I will be ready to move out of the country, even though I love it, because I really won't be able to stand living amoung 50+ million idiots. If you're right, you'll be getting rid of me.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Sorry-Ms Meyerrson's most recent research was 2006.
By no means should knowledge be limited to one source--seek the whole story including those contrary to your own beliefs. The truth is somewhere between. I also don't mean to represent this researcher's body of work in a post--just look around and decide for yourself.

Posted by: Show me the money | September 4, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

That's right, folks. Liberalism is running scared, scared of the truth, scared of the reality that this nation is a conservative nation.

The end of liberalism is clearly on the horizon. Fear is heralding its demise.

But there's no need to fear. There's a cure.

Open your mind to the truth, know the truth, and join the cause for truth. Fear is no way of life. Live the truth.

Posted by: John Anthony | September 4, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

More Republican Spin -No Substance - She's a Knee Jerk reaction to the "18M cracks in the glass ceiling" comment that 'Billary' opened up last week. This is an example of another "Repub" (more of the same McCain) that shoots from the hip - not vetted - she brought some baggage that will ultimately keep the "talkin-heads" busy with fodder for a while, which will in turn charge up the base to fight. Without really knowing what the fight is about. This is change? The "Repub's" ought to be pissed that this campaign has even submitted her name. This just goes to show that the Repub-spin-machine believes that they can just trot anybody out and the 'Lemmings' of the party will pull that lever without ever giving it any thought. PLEASE give us some substance!

Posted by: RJ | September 4, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"Susan, we don't need you dummies to tell us we're more intelligent. It's obvious. That's why we don't get sucked in by the Republican BS campaign spin that is totally at odds with reality."

Posted by: Pointy-Headed Liberal | September 4, 2008 3:12 PM
____________________________

PHL,
So... you think that you are intelligent because you are a male or because you are liberal? As I mentioned, you sound ignorant when you write. I'm just wondering why you believe that you are intelligent. I think you got beaten up by a couple of black kids in school and you feel you must vote for Obama... or you know, it might happen again.
is that about right Pointy Headed Liberal?

Posted by: Susan | September 4, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

PHL - I see you don't get out much...

There's no need to fear. There's a cure.

Open your mind to the truth, know the truth, and join the cause for truth.

Else you'll live in fear, and this is no way to live.

The cure to liberalism is knowing the truth.

Posted by: John T. | September 4, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse


Ossi Korkeamäki & Tomi Kyyrä, 2003. "The Gender Wage Gap and Sex Segregation in Finland," VATT Discussion Papers 288, Government Institute for Economic Research (VATT). [Downloadable!]
Other versions:
Ossi Korkeamäki & Tomi Kyyrä, 2005. "The Gender Wage Gap and Sex Segregation in Finland," Finnish Economic Papers, Finnish Society for Economic Research, vol. 18(2), pages 57-71, Autumn. [Downloadable!]
Catalina Amuedo-Dorantes & Sara de la Rica Goiricelaya, 2005. "The Impact of Gender Segregation on Male-Female Wage Differentials," DFAEII Working Papers 200516, University of the Basque Country - Department of Foundations of Economic Analysis II. [Downloadable!]
Catalina Amuedo-Dorantes & Sara De la Rica, 2006. "The Role of Segregation and Pay Structure on the Gender Wage Gap: Evidence from Matched Employer-Employee Data for Spain," Contributions to Economic Analysis & Policy, Berkeley Electronic Press, vol. 5(1), pages 1498-1498. [Downloadable!] (restricted)
Pfeifer, Christian & Sohr, Tatjana, 2008. "Analysing the Gender Wage Gap Using Personnel Records of a Large German Company," IZA Discussion Papers 3533, Institute for the Study of Labor (IZA). [Downloadable!]
Here are some references that would prove useful--I have access to the text but don't think I'm allowed to post it due to copyright. But if you have access to any EBSCO, JSTOR or similar research engine, you can find plenty. A recent study in the past year was out of the Scandinavian Journal of Economics--primary author: Eva Meyersson. Knowledge is power. Sorry to burst bubbles, but everything you read on an open blog may not be true.

I'm not a lawyer and never said I was. I'm a physical scientist.

Edward P. Lazear & Paul Oyer, 2004. "The Structure of Wages and Internal Mobility," American Economic Review, American Economic Association, vol. 94(2), pages 212-216, May. [Downloadable!] (restricted)
Sami Napari, 2006. "The Early Career Gender Wage Gap," CEP Discussion Papers dp0738, Centre for Economic Performance, LSE. [Downloadable!]
Sara de la Rica, 2007. "Segregación ocupacional y diferencias salariales por género en España: 1995-2002," Working Papers 2007-35, FEDEA. [Downloadable!]

Posted by: Show me the money | September 4, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Justifying wars and the establishment external policies by telling it was God's will could justify in the name of God all kind of internal policies.Frightening!!!!!!!

http://news.spreadit.org/wasilla-assembly-of-god-churchpalin-church-video/

Posted by: coptip | September 4, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Barack got this thang wrapped up - media can try all they want its over. OBAMA '08

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

An obvious dfference between Pahlin's and Obama's speech: she reads a speech prepared by somebody else; he pronounces his own speech. Hers is divisive and mean; his is inclusive and warm. Her demeanor is that of a cheerleader; his is that of a statesman. Well, you decide...

Posted by: john freddi | September 4, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Susan, we don't need you dummies to tell us we're more intelligent. It's obvious. That's why we don't get sucked in by the Republican BS campaign spin that is totally at odds with reality.

Posted by: Pointy-Headed Liberal | September 4, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

I thought McCain was different from Bush. But after Palin's speech, all I heard was ridicule and hate. I'm saddened for our country.

Posted by: Goshkruse | September 4, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Show me the money -- What reasearch have you done? Where did you go to law school?

Posted by: McCain supporter | September 4, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

"Linda, no, we're not attacking because we're deadbeats or afraid of chicks. We're attacking because we're more intelligent and we can't believe the idiotic BS you people will fall for."

Posted by: Pointy-Headed Liberal | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM
____________________________
Memo to PHL:
Linda is right on and you're just the kind condescending, liberal white blogger she referred to in her post. Who told you you are intelligent, anyway? You certainly don't write intelligently. You just sound bitter, partisan and short on manners.
Suck it up, budsie boy, cause Sarah will be the first female VP of the USA!!!
Susan

Posted by: Susan | September 4, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Give one example where equal pay has not been garnered for equal work.

Here's how stats work:
Half the year, Jan-Jun, the wind blows 100 mph from the east.
Half the year, Jul-Dec, the wind blows 100 mph from the west.

On average, then, the wind doesn't blow. A bit misleading huh?

When maternity leave is accounted for, and the lost time due to restarting careers when moving with husband's relocation, the statistics show no discernible difference in pay. And there shouldn't be a difference.

I've never been given one concrete example--not even a court case to research--if it's such a conspiracy, it would be flooding every circuit, superior, and supreme court in the country. Heck, we sue people for hot coffee--why wouldn't this be in court!

Dems definitely aren't elite--just look at the comments on this board! The President overturns supreme court decisions. Hmmm--yeah I remember that from school.

Posted by: Show me the money | September 4, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

My 90-year old father-in-law says he's voting for McCain because he doesn't think we should have a black FIRST LADY!!! Denial really runs deep.

Posted by: Embarrassed | September 4, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Excellent speech, Sarah Palin! I'm a democrat and has never voted Republican since Reagan. I wasn't sure about Obama and was leaning towards McCain. I didn't like Hillary because of the way the Clintons grabbed the NY senatorial seat. News of the Palin VP nomination watered down my McCain leaning. And so I researched the internet about you Sarah Palin. I was a skeptic but am now totally convinced you're the right VP candidate. You have shown more results and accomplishments in the very short time that you were a governor. A lot of experience for the relatively brief 20-month gubernatorial stint and 8-year mayoral term. I don't know of any governor -- even those who've had 8+ year term- that can match your record of cleaning house, initiating reform, strategically taking on anyone fearlessly in the spirit of serving the people first, vetoing spending bills and slashing social expenses but still manage to enjoy an amazingly popular 80% approval ratings!

I don't need for you to be governor for a few more years just for the heck of racking up more years experience -- it's enough that I know you possess strong principles, integrity, shrewdness, and brilliance that will guide you wherever you serve. Washington needs you NOW!

Posted by: Joe from San Dimas, CA | September 4, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Well, if my daughter was 5 months pregnant and couldn't tell me she was pregnant, i would be horrified. That says volumes to me about this woman; no doubt she is scary; wants her way, willing to have a slugfest to get it and not have it necessarily be in the best interest of anyone. Not sure about how I feel having someone like that in power. Plus, she is already under scrutiny for using power for personal purposes; obviously extremely charismatic or she wouldn't bother.

Posted by: Penelope | September 4, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

"I studied thermodynamics in 1st year college physics and the 2nd law of thermodynamics in an upper-level course, so I'm sympathetic to your 19th century notions. However, science marches on."

-yep and 100 years ago we thought we'd discovered all there was to discover. 400 years ago we thought the earth was flat 600 years ago the earth was the center of the universe....

So, 400 years from now your current science theories will be just as quaint and backward, but god will remain. You do know Neitzke was the one who died; right?

Posted by: billionsbutnotoneounceofsmarts | September 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Joe from San Dimas, how is it that you aren't embarrassed to open your mouth and show the world how stupid you are?

Posted by: DoesCalifReallyHaveStupidPeople? | September 4, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Linda, no, we're not attacking because we're deadbeats or afraid of chicks. We're attacking because we're more intelligent and we can't believe the idiotic BS you people will fall for.

Posted by: Pointy-Headed Liberal | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

The McCain campaign is trying to distract voters from the real issues. They've come out against the life-saving possibilities of stem cell research. They don't even mention protecting equal pay for equal work. They support huge tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans. They've almost completely ignored the $10 billion we're spending every month in Iraq. And they make zero exceptions for a woman's right to choose -- even in cases of rape, incest, or to protect the life of the mother. If that all sounds like more of the same, that's because it is. John McCain is offering a third term of the disastrous Bush agenda, so it's no wonder his campaign would choose to focus on attacks instead of issues.

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Excellent speech, Sarah Palin! I'm a democrat and has never voted Republican since Reagan. I wasn't sure about Obama and was leaning towards McCain. I didn't like Hillary because of the way the Clintons grabbed the NY senatorial seat. News of the Palin VP nomination watered down my McCain leaning. And so I researched the internet about you Sarah Palin. I was a skeptic but am now totally convinced you're the right VP candidate. You have shown more results and accomplishments in the very short time that you were a governor. A lot of experience for the relatively brief 20-month gubernatorial stint and 8-year mayoral term. I don't know of any governor -- even those who've had 8+ year term- that can match your record of cleaning house, initiating reform, strategically taking on anyone fearlessly in the spirit of serving the people first, vetoing spending bills and slashing social expenses but still manage to enjoy an amazingly popular 80% approval ratings!

I don't need for you to be governor for a few more years just for the heck of racking up more years experience -- it's enough that I know you possess strong principles, integrity, shrewdness, and brilliance that will guide you wherever you serve. Washington needs you NOW!

Posted by: Joe from San Dimas, CA | September 4, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

“The pointy-headed liberal men on this blog attacking Sarah Palin and her children are probably behind on child-support and beat their wives. One thing is sure - strong women frighten them. ……. The hate is evident, and from the left!” - Linda
LOL- The hate is from the left. I thought these comment was from the right?
“I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period.” – Pat Robertson

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

As a former diehard Republican, I am saddened to see the party that I loved so dearly has come to this interval—morally corrupted, big government, big deficits, disorganized, no ideas, no solutions—party of NOTHING. As my congress man, Tom Davis (R-VA) has recently eloquently stated: Republican brand was so damaged by war, corruption and incompetence, if it were a dog food it would be taken off the shelves! Instead of earning and asking the trust of the people back, the Republicans are continuing on [losing] Carl Rove “strategy—mudsling!

Posted by: VAFormerGOP | September 4, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech was WEAK. Reading boilerplate, ad hominem attacks from a teleprompter is impressive? I can't even believe someone like Tom Shales bought into it.

Honestly, I thought it was gimmicky from the word go. Little charisma or intelligence. She reads a little dumb to me, actually.

If enough Americans buy this Repugnican muck AGAIN, they deserve another 4 years of the Horror that is Bush-Cheney.

Posted by: Weak | September 4, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

What is so frightening about a female non-lawyer running for VP who has an intact family after 22 years? We all have strong opinions about the current president, most of them bad. It actually is as low as congress's approval rating now. We also statistically have the lowest opinion of our congress historically, unless it's your own district. So what's that say?

We all have strong opinions about what needs to be done. If it's so complex that only a lawyer can deal with it, then our republic is lost indeed. Our founders intended for a rotation among the people.

Our president made an emotional decision to a terrible attack on us--you and me. I disagree with it as a taxpayer, but I haven't abandoned my ideals because of it. And if you need a hand on the street, I won't ask if you're a dem or rep, I don't care--you'll get my help brother.

Stay hopeful and vote for something and not against something. Be proud--this nation is the only place I wanna be. I've lived in others and there's no comparison.

Posted by: Just a thought | September 4, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Phil -- "typo's" should not have an apostrophe.

Posted by: LiberalPunctuationPolice | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

When Obama gets inagurated I'm a smack the shizznit outta every white boy named Drew I come across and tell him TOLD YA!!!
hahahahahahahaha

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

The pointy-headed liberal men on this blog attacking Sarah Palin and her children are probably behind on child-support and beat their wives. One thing is sure - strong women frighten them.
So here is the fix:
Place a hand on each cheek and pull your collective head out of Obama's backside and take a breath. Perhaps you should spend an hour or two listening to Reverend Wright love tapes to relax.
The hate is evident, and from the left!
Its time for a real women's movement!!!

Posted by: Linda | September 4, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

The GOP whines about needing to clean up "LIBERAL WASHINGTON". They have been in charge for eight years, Congress for 6 1/2 of them! How much time do they need? Are they going to clean themselves out? Their arguments make less sense with each passing day.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Now Palin will have to deal with troopergate and The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

There's no need to fear. There's a cure.

Open your mind to the truth, know the truth, and join the cause for truth.

Else you'll live in fear, and this is no way to live.

The cure to liberalism is knowing the truth.

Palin for President!

Posted by: Against Fear | September 4, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

If you vote against Obama, you arer a racist.

Everything I read on the internet and on most tv agrees with that--just look at some of the links people put up above.
Everyone knows the elections only count in the states with the big cities. If you don't live in a big city--your vote doesn't scare me anyway.
Plus, everyone knows the President can reverse supreme court decisions if he wants. So abortion will be illegal. I dont know what congress does, but I think the president does most of it anyway. So what if he used cocaine 20 years ago. Small towns don't matter anyway.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Anti-racist | September 4, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

So nice to know that the "Yee-HAW" wing of the party has finally found it's voice.

I really liked the part where she laid out that Obama is just too uppity...er, I mean - ELITE.

Gosh, I never noticed he was black...uh, colored...ummm...ELITE before. I thought he was just clean and articulate!

Posted by: John Quimby | September 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

julie - why are liberal commenters like that? Because we like Sarah's p[u]ssy but not her politics and you people can't see through the Republican BS and we're sick of it after the last two "elections."

Posted by: Liberal commenter | September 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

“And mainstream America is REPUBLICAN look at those USTODAY red and blue maps.” - abby0802
That’s funny, now compare it with population maps. Most of those BIG RED STATES have populations the size of some of the Blue cities.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

BOYCOTT FOX NEWS

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


U.S. Presidents From Harvard Law
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Rutherford Hayes
Theodore Roosevelt
Franklin Roosevelt
John Kennedy
Barack Obama

President and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama Contrast With D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain


Growing Up

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain was privileged, given everything by both parents, and worked for nothing.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama grew up poor, raised by his Irish-American single white mother and Irish-American white working class maternal grand parents. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama was given nothing and worked for everything.

Education

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain was a D student and graduated last in his class. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain and McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire share failed academic records. He partied constantly and dependent on favor handouts from his high ranking father and grandfather. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain earned nothing on his own similar to McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain is also Internet illiterate which slows down his information processing capacity. Is this good for the country?


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama worked hard and became PRESIDENT OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. Everything that Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama accomplished he did on his own. Irish-American Barack Obama’s HARVARD Scholarship ranks among the best. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s hard work represents the American Dream.


Community Service

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain poor studies translated into poor performances in the military where he crashed several planes and recklessly endangered the lives of others. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain was never trusted by his colleagues nor loved by his peers. The highlight of D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain’s career was getting shot down and becoming a prisoner. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain served his country by getting handouts from his guards. Getting handouts seems to be D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain’s modem of operations. WillObscenelyRich McCain, who finished 894th out of 899 at the Naval Academy and who lost five jets, return competence to the White House? To lose one plane over Vietnam may be a heroic tragedy; to lose five planes here and there is carelessness.

Irish-American Barack Obama turned down large profits after graduating from HARVARD LAW to serve the community in Chicago where help was needed most. The community learned to trust and love Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama for his dedication to public service.


Marriage

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain walked out on his family to chase a younger woman who was on drugs, embezzling money from her company, stealing, and facing criminal charges, until her privileged family saved her from trial. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain’s dysfunctional family represents chaos and lack of respect when he curses her in public.


Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama married an intelligent IVY LEAGUE attorney and adores his beautiful young daughters. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama’s First Family represents what America is striving for. Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama has always been surrounded by and still maintains a great respect for women (Irish mother, Irish grandmother, sister, wife, and two daughters). If anyone is in tune with and favors the betterment of working American women, then it’s Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

International Diplomacy

The World wants no more chaotic McBush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire-D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain.


The World loves Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama and will follow America’s leadership behind Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama.

If D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain had to make another emergency landing on a deserted island with Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama onboard as one of the passengers, then it is safe to say that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain would assume the role of Gilligan, while Irish-American and Harvard Law Scholar Barack Obama would assume the role of the professor.


Navy pilot John Sidney D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

His father John S. "Junior" McCain was commander of U.S. forces in Europe later becoming commander of American forces in Vietnam while D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III was being held prisoner of war. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III's grandfather John S. McCain, Sr. commanded naval aviation at the Battle of Okinawa in 1945.

During his relative short stunt on flight status, D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III lost five U.S. Navy aircraft, four in accidents and one in combat.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain III lost jet number one in 1958 when he plunged into Corpus Christi Bay while practicing landings. He was knocked unconscious by the impact coming to as the plane settled to the bottom.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's second crash occurred while he was deployed in the Mediterranean. Flying too low over the Iberian Peninsula, he took out some power lines which led to a spate of newspaper stories in which he was predictably identified as the son of an admiral."

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's fourth aircraft loss occurred July 29, 1967, soon after he was assigned to the USS Forrestal as an A-4 Skyhawk pilot. While seated in the cockpit of his aircraft waiting his turn for takeoff, an accidently fired rocket slammed into D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's plane. He escaped from the burning aircraft, but the explosions that followed killed 134 sailors, destroyed at least 20 aircraft, and threatened to sink the ship.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's fifth loss happened during his 23rd mission over North Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1967, when D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's A-4 Skyhawk was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process and subsequently parachuted into Truc Bach Lake near Hanoi.

"Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate my medical treatment if I [D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain] did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

When the communist learned that D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's father was Admiral John S. McCain, Jr., the soon-to-be commander of all U.S. Forces in the Pacific, he was rushed to Gai Lam military hospital.

The communist Vietnamese figured, because POW D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's father was of such high military rank, that he was of royalty or the governing circle. Thereafter the communist bragged that they had captured "the crown prince."

For 23 combat missions (an estimated 20 hours over enemy territory), the U.S. Navy awarded D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain a Silver Star, a Legion of Merit for Valor, a Distinguished Flying Cross, three Bronze Stars, two Commendation medals plus two Purple Hearts and a dozen service medals.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain had roughly 20 hours in combat. Since D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain got 28 medals, that equals out to a medal-and-a-half for each hour he spent in combat. There were infantry guys -- grunts on the ground -- who had more than 7,000 hours in combat where I'm sure a prison cell would have looked pretty good to them by comparison. The question really is how many guys got that number of medals for not being shot down.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain has been an unchecked master at manipulating an overly friendly and biased news media. The former POW turned Congressman, turned U.S. Senator, has managed to gloss over his failures as a pilot and collaborations with the enemy by exaggerating his military service and lying about his feats of heroism.

D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain has sprouted a halo and wings to become America's POW-hero presidential candidate.

Former naval officer and the owner of an OOIIILLLL-trading company that inked defense contracts worth $1 billion is the modern presidential money man. The law forbids high-level supporters from writing huge checks, but with help from friends in the Middle East D Student Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain is receiving large donations.

BOYCOTT FOX NEWS

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.


OBSCENELY RICH WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE MCCAIN WANTED TO BE KERRY’S VP AND RUN AGAINST BUSH WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE

John Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain really can't stand George W. Bush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire. Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain's rhetorical flirtation with the idea of becoming Sen. John Kerry's running mate is an ongoing intramural psychodrama that began in 1999.

Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain saw Bush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire as a pampered kid being set up in the family business — presidential politics — on the strength of his father's connections and access to money.

Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain railed in private about this. He tried to laugh about it, but he was seething inside. Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain was from royalty, too, in his own way — Navy royalty. He was the namesake of a famous father, and that smoothed his path to Annapolis and helped keep him there.

The good ol' boy supporters of the Bush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire team savaged Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain and his family, spreading vicious rumors. The boys didn't have to be told what to do. They knew. They'd done it before, to others.

Letting bygones be bygones
After it was all over, Bush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire, with his usual steely geniality, told Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain that the rough stuff of the primary season was not his fault and, in any case, was just politics. Time for bygones to be bygones. Exactly what the senator said in reply isn't known. But Bush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire and Karl Rove knew that they couldn't afford to antagonize Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain further. Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain, for his part, didn't want his "maverick" reputation to rob him of the chance to be a major player in a capital dominated by his fellow Republicans.

Virtually every big-hitting corporation with business in Washington needs to see Rove & Co., of course, but they also, quite often, need to see the senator.

Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain needs the president to champion their shared belief that force — and only force — can teach.

The fun of needling Bush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire
But Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain still finds it hard not to remind the White House of his independence, and can't resist needling Bush Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire even when he dutifully is arguing the president's case. We were right to go to Iraq, Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain says repeatedly, but he has been increasingly tough on the administration's intelligence-gathering problems and use of intel in making its case for war.

The question of the veepship is true that Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain and Kerry are close. They are perhaps the leading members of an informal caucus of Vietnam Veterans in the Senate, a fiercely loyal group that tends to eschew party lines whenever possible to express solidarity with one another. It's also true that, like any politician, Obscenely Rich Wall Street OOIIILLLL Millionaire McCain likes to make news, likes to be in the limelight and likes to be asked if he has any interest in being a partner on a national ticket.

Barak Obama proved why November's presidential election will end in a 50-state sweep. John McCain has no chance. It's like George Bush climbing into the ring with Mike Tyson; one thundering left hook and the Crawford Caligula would be sprawled across the canvas. "No mas"! The same fate awaits the crabby senator from Arizona. The polls are skewed to look like there's a political horse-race going on. There isn't. It's a complete rout. There's one well-toned thoroughbred striding from venue to venue electrifying the ever-increasing throngs, and one doddering, old mare limping towards the glue-factory. Someone should put a stop to it before McCain gets hurt.

At the Victory Column in Berlin's Tiergarten, Obama extracted Old Glory from the burn-pile and gave Brand America a desperately needed shot of adrenaline. 200,000 ecstatic Germans jammed the streets in what turned out to be the political shindig of the year. Many of them were waving American flags and chanting, "Obama, Obama, Obama". It was like Jack Kennedy had risen from his moldy sepulcher and made his way across the pond for one last rousing ovation. Obama has the very same affect on crowds. Its a gift and he knows how to use it to great advantage.

"People of Berlin, people of the world, this is our moment, this is our time," Obama boomed. "I know my country has not perfected itself, we've made our share of mistakes and there are times when our actions around the world have not lived up to our best intentions. But the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another."

What can we say about Obama's oratory skills that hasn't already been said? He is one of those unique characters who knows how to tap into the collective psyche and put them under his spell. He is the closest thing to a Pied Piper we've seen in the last half century. Whatever one thinks of his politics, his speeches are a welcome reprieve from the simian blabbering of President Dimwit.

"I speak to you not as a candidate for president, but as a citizen; a proud citizen of the United States and a fellow citizen of the world." (Roaring applause)

JOHN McCAIN: Maverick or Freak?
Have you taken a look at the crowds at a McCain event. Usually, there aren't any. Typically, there are more journalists and cameramen then people; and even they look bored. It's the truth. He generates no enthusiasm at all. None. He may be the most uninspiring, tedious, pure-vanilla candidate of all time; a complete dud. I challenge anyone to recite from memory anything John McCain has ever said in his 40 years in office. Time's up! When McCain begins to talk, its a signal for women to pull out the nail-files and for men to figure out how they're going to get out of cutting the lawn this week. Really. No one listens.

And the people that do manage to drag themselves to his speeches out of a sense of obligation are (you guessed it) scowling white guys with baseball caps pulled tightly over their ears or nearly-ambulatory Korea-era Vets who think the United Nations is a communist front-group that's planning to air-drop blue-helmets into Duluth to take over the United States. Tin-foil hats anyone?

Popularity and charisma, how does one survive in politics with neither. That's the question, and it may be the biggest mystery of McCain's candidacy. He's just not a likable guy. No one ever talks about hanging out and having a beer with John McCain, because they know that he might go "Jackie Chan" and start busting the place up. And he's utterly impossible to listen to. His high-pitched squeaky voice is about two octaves higher than a dog-whistle and twice as annoying. So how is he going to beat Obama. It's a total mismatch.

McCain is the perfect candidate for the GOP Republic party that has completely collapsed. He's like the "Jolly Roger" on the front of an iodine bottle; Brand X. In 2000, the Republican Party boasted it was the "party of ideas". What ideas? The Republican Party has never had ideas because the corporate mandarins and blue-blooded kleptocrats that run the party are suspicious of ideas, ideology, doctrine, philosophy or anything else that veers from their primary objectives of crushing the poor, despoiling the environment, carpet-bombing brown people wherever they may be, and enriching themselves. That's all they care about. The task of the right-wing think-tanks is to treat "war and tax cuts" like they're ideas. They're not. But war and tax cuts ARE the two foundation blocks of the Republican Party. There's nothing else; there never has been. Don't look for ideas; there aren't any. GOP Republican get rich quick by defrauding the American People, robbing the National Treasury, sending American jobs overseas, and raising the national debt.

Hold Bush, Cheney, Rice, and McCain accountable for the crimes they've committed during their time in office.

Obama is not a candidate; he's a phenomenon. Obama is an explosive, vital, charismatic politician. When he speaks people feel better about themselves and their country. And, they're more hopeful about the future, too. That's what makes him unbeatable.

McCain, on the other hand, is the perfect embodiment of his party; a rusty, broken-down hulk that's been stripped of its engine, its fenders and all its moving parts. Even the steering wheel is gone. It's a dead-loss; nothing is salvageable.

McCain is in way over his head. This election is going to be a real embarrassment for him. It's too bad. He should be back at the Phoenix Rest Home shooing kids off the front lawn instead of waiting for the ax to fall in November. It's a rotten way to end a career.

GOP PLANE WRECK AND TRAIN WRECK DISFUNCTIONALS

With Wall Street OOOIIIIILLLLLL stocks paid under the table to Sarah Palin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner from OOOOOIIIIIILLLLLLL Millionaires McCain, Bush, Cheney, Rice and Guiliani; it appears that Sarah Palin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner, her large family, dogs, cats, chickens, and hogs can now move out of their trailer. Guiliani went from GOP front runner to anonymous polygamist. Guiliani is the biggest joke and shares home dysfunction with Bush, Cheney, Rice, McCain and now Sarah trailer Palin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner. OOOOIIIIILLLLLLL Millions stolen from Our Treasury did not help their dysfunctional families.

GOP Republican Wall Street Get Rich by robbing the American Treasury and outsourcing American jobs party has officially been dissolved. Plane wreck McCrash and Train wreck Trailer Palin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioners have destroyed the already dysfunctional GOP Republican Party of Corporate Welfare Thieves.

Democrats and Independents are the official parties. Blessings to America and the World for peaceful cooperation and the elimination of unjust wars for GOP profits. The People First Party has arrived and Rich Wall Street millionaires will no longer use the American People as their cattle. Americans today are all free independent Democratic People in pursuit of happiness in the spirit of cooperation.

“We joined up with an altruistic vision of promoting freedom and justice around the world,” said Vince Emanuel, a Marine lance corporal who did a tour of duty in Iraq from August 2004 to April 2005, explaining why he was marching and protesting the GOP Republican Convention.

“Except we saw the killing of innocent people and the destruction of property ... for a lot of us it was very disenfranchising."

The veterans group tried to hand a message to the campaign of GOP Republican John McCain calling for a withdrawal from Iraq, reparations for the Iraqi people, and full medical benefits for veterans. No one from John McCain’s campaign received them.

BOYCOTT FOX NEWS

If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.

Posted by: Palin's trailer has become unhitched | September 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous and DC, come up with some facts supporting your arguments for Obama. Besides his color;(1) What does he know about foreign politics (Nothing)(2) Tell me your definition of CHANGE (which is all Obama says kind of like you with no justification or reasons behind it) (3)His economic funding policies are so misleading its unreal (no way he can pay for everything he has in mind without raising taxes which he plans to do!)
(4) Do you honestly think just because he is black he is going to make a difference in the black community. If anything lets pray that he gives African Americans someone to look up to and respect; giving them hope and desire to become whatever you want, not just a rapper or athlete. Obama is extremely intelligent and I respect that but racism does not play any role in my decision not to vote for him. Its his lack of experience and misleading statements that will have me voting for McCain and Palin.

Posted by: Drew | September 4, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Faith is superior to intellect.

Intellect is finite, but Faith is not, as proven by generations of scientists whose Faith guided and opened their intellect.

Lack of Faith closes the mind and diminishes the intellect; therefore the inferior mind asks, "Who created God?" Whereas Faith provides the answer, intellect alone can't receive it, because of its finite condition.

Posted by: About The One | September 4, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

This is a test of the emergency broadcast system.

Posted by: Big Brother | September 4, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

If you vote against Obama, you arer a racist.

Everything I read on the internet and on most tv agrees with that--just look at some of the links people put up above.
Everyone knows the elections only count in the states with the big cities. If you don't live in a big city--your vote doesn't scare me anyway.
Plus, everyone knows the President can reverse supreme court decisions if he wants. So abortion will be illegal. I dont know what congress does, but I think the president does most of it anyway. So what if he used cocaine 20 years ago. Small towns don't matter anyway.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Anti-racist | September 4, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

The only "fear" factor? Is the American public gullible enough to swing their vote to McCain because now he has a pretty and witty and smart running mate, despite the fact that the running mate far more conservative than McCain himself? A running mate that denies global warming, supports a continuation of tax breaks for the wealthy while leaving the middle class behind? And a running mate who publicly belittled Obama's many years of public service to the underpriveliged.

Scared? You're darned right.

Posted by: tdub | September 4, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I think those who were prepared to like Palin did and those were weren't didn't. She can read from a teleprompter and did a good job, but her speechwriters didn't do her any favors by playing to what appears to be a natural instinct to jeer and ridicule, all the while wearing that plastic smile.

I grew up in a family burdened by a father who lived for the Apocalypse. The very worst and most unthinkable things happened in that household, and the fallout from those experiences so long ago still stalks all of us in the most perverse ways possible. It terrifies me that someone like Sarah Palin is as close to executive office as she is.

I wish we could hope for a campaign that speaks about the real and very, very serious issues confronting this nation and planet, but that appears farther away than usual, if that's possible.

Expect more railing against the press and other imaginary enemies. The real danger, and please don't make the mistake of underestimating it, is a pit bull with lipstick and the cynical disappointment of a politician who chose to give her the bully pulpit.

Posted by: georgiademocratguy | September 4, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin thinks that the Iraq war is a mission from god... This war is not "Gods Will" its big oil and arms merchants will. No wonder she thinks this way, here is a quote from the pastor of her church. This is the same kind of talk that convinces Muslim children to become suicide bombers. Hey Sara! Jesus does not advocate war.
"What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode.""

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Just read a post by a guy saying obama being a professor is good. ever gone to school. the higher the education the less work you do. and it's easy; no numbers to generate, no people to fire, no bills to pay...

Seriously, I know dems want to win at all costs but you've got to pick people with ABILITY. at this level anyone can read a speech. Hope and Change my foot. obama is nothing more than "I HOPE they vote for me, then I'll CHANGE my bank account".

Posted by: Seriously | September 4, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

We'll start with AlexZ83, who wrote, "...Judging by the stunned media reports and the low-key comments of the liberal pitbulls tonight, Palin polished up the Democratic Party completely! I'd like to see the "independent" media go after her one more time.... if they dare!"

--------------------------------

Are you kidding me? It was Project Runway night followed by the season premiere of Top Design. I had no interest in her speech.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Osama, I mean Obama (Freudian Slip) is a radical muslim under the guise of a Christian thanks to Jeremiah Wright. If fact is you shaved Osama he'd look a whole lot like Obama. (Think about it)
Outside of radical muslim training in Kenya he has hardly any leadership experience. (community organizer maybe, which is great experience except when running for the POTUS). It must suck to be an Obama supporter like that yuts Affleck and know that the GOP's VP can do a better job in running the country than their Presidential nominee.

Michelle Obama HATES whites & America she is the true defintion of a racist. Man what a phony, did you see her during Boring's (I mean Biden's) speech

Biden, I thought he had a gay lover (Oh, Beauy my boy)

Hmm I work hard for money which Obama wants to take more of it from me via taxes, so everyone can be equal. (Wow, sounds a lot like communism to me)

See through the smoke and mirrors obama is nothing, Hollow and Empty. He will ruin America.

Posted by: Tax & Spend Dems SUCK | September 4, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

W. never gave anyone their money back, he took excess money from the social security fund and gave the rich folks who only pay around 1% or less of their income to social security a tax cut in the general income tax rates.

Posted by: dman | September 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Libs, you're going down... fast!

It's inevitable. Your end is near...

Posted by: Rock the Vote | September 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

How can a speech be any good if it doesn't involve a mock Greek temple?

America won be fooled by this woman's substance over style.

Give me the flashy candidate any day.

Posted by: Jim C | September 4, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

If God created the Universe, who created God?

Posted by: Reality | September 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Listen, I grew up in small town America. Midwest city, Oklahoma to be exact. Since then I have lived in Big cities (Chicago IL, Austin TX) and small cities (Midwest city OK, Enid Ok). I hear over and over again about how Washington needs to listen to small town America and it always makes fun of them and wouldn’t life be better if the nation returned to small town values. To a certain degree I agree but come on. Let’s face it, 100 years from now at current population growth rates there will almost be no small town America and that that is left will represent 1% to 2% of US population. People keep breeding and cities keep growing. I want someone who understands Big City problems as that will be the center of our economy and society in the future. You know, the stuff you don’t have much of in small town America that makes it easy for small town America to oversimplify the real problems faced by big cities each day. This means to all you who have never lived in that environment lots of people, lots of cultures and lots different religions living in a very small area. It also means not always knowing all your neighbors and very often not having anything in common with them.

All I hear from the Right Wing Republicans is that everyone needs to be good little Christians and follow our Manifest Destiny to the Rapture. I think that is very scary talk. When you base your life on the anticipation of your God destroying the planet and you look forward to it, you’re mental. What the right wing really wants is a Homogonous all Christian USA. Sorry, that’s not what we are founded on.

So, now here I stand. A man without a party. I might have been republican, but never a NeoCon. I believe in fiscal responsibility and taking responsibility for one’s own actions but neither have I seen out of the Republican party in a long time, just lots of Right Wing Fundamentalist garbage. Looks like Dems Tax and spend while the Republicans whip out the credit card and borrow and spend. I also find it funny that they slam everyone else’s preachers when they have some of the biggest nut jobs praised in their own party.

Hmmm, Let’s look at some quotes from the most prized part of the right wing. The far evangelical right. Let me tell you, these people really know how to win friends around the globe. If there is a great danger to our nation it is intolerance and ignorance which is the mantra currently of the Republican party

“All Muslims are programmed to kill and we can thus never negotiate with any of them.” From an NPR interview Hagee gave to Terry Gross in 2006:

“God caused Hurricane Katrina to wipe out New Orleans because it had a gay pride parade the week before and was filled with sexual sin.” From the same interview:

“The End Times -- Rapture -- is imminent and the U.S. Government must do what it can to hasten it, which at minimum requires: (a) a war with Iran and (b) undying, absolute support for a unified Israel, including all Occupied Territories”. From Christian Palestinian Daoud Kuttab in The New York Times (h/t PZ Meyers):
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/daoudkuttab/message/337
McCain said he was "very honored" to receive John Hagee’s endorsement and, when asked about some of Hagee's more twisted views, responded: "all I can tell you is that I am very proud to have Pastor John Hagee's support."

"Lord, give us righteous judges who will not try to legislate and dominate this society. Take control, Lord! We ask for additional vacancies on the court." –Pat Robertson

"I would warn Orlando that you're right in the way of some serious hurricanes, and I don't think I'd be waving those flags in God's face if I were you, This is not a message of hate -- this is a message of redemption. But a condition like this will bring about the destruction of your nation. It'll bring about terrorist bombs; it'll bring earthquakes, tornadoes, and possibly a meteor." –Pat Robertson, on "gay days" at Disneyworld

“I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period.” – Pat Robertson – And Dems are sexist, I guess I know where Pat thinks Palin should be.

"God considers this land to be his. You read the Bible and he says 'This is my land,' and for any prime minister of Israel who decides he is going to carve it up and give it away, God says, 'No, this is mine.' ... He was dividing God's land. And I would say, 'Woe unto any prime minister of Israel who takes a similar course to appease the E.U., the United Nations, or the United States of America.' God says, 'This land belongs to me. You better leave it alone.'" --Pat Robertson, on why Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon suffered a massive stroke

“You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them.” – Pat Robertson
How about this guy who makes cartoons calling Islam Evil and Mohammed a pedophile?
http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1054/1054_01.asp
or where he calls The Russian Orthodox and Roman Catholic Church Satan’s Religions.
http://www.chick.com/bc/2008/russia.asp

Posted by: Mandelbrot | September 4, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I think one of the biggest fears is what happen when the typical Democratic male faces a Republican woman in the debate.

If only Sen. Biden could find a way to get Hillary Clinton to pinch hit for him in the debate. Then he would stand a decent chance.

Posted by: Strong Republican Women vs Typical Democratic Males | September 4, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Sarah-cuda Palin kicked her some Democrat behind last night.

She is the whole package, smart, conservative, well spoken AND photogenic. She has far more experiance than Obama, and BETTER experience at that.

On the other hand, Obama is a completely empty suit...teleprompter-dependent rhetoric.

No surprise that the Dems are doing all they can to smear Palin, they are justifiably desperate.

Obama's decline really started on the "Victory Tour" he made to Europe, where he used a rock concert to draw a crown and chose to work out rather than visit wounded troops. But, Palin's nomination sealed the deal. Dems lose again.

The question now is how long are her coat-tails? Can she invigorate the Republicans enough to get out the vote and take back the Senate? I believe so. This is the least effective Congress ever (really, no exageration) with the lowest approval rating ever. It is time to turn the Democratic scoundrels out!

Last note: Obama is not even the first serious black candidate for President. That was Bill Clinton. All Obama can say is he is the first black Bill Clinton.

Posted by: MAragorn | September 4, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Independent08 -- Yes, good post! Vote for anonymous right wingers. Get a brain!

Posted by: BuckFush&MuckFcCain | September 4, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

I believe the future of America lies in November. The American might not know it, but their country's power is in decline. Like every power throughout history, there is a time, a defining moment, when power shift in the world.
All the great civilizations (Incas, Egypt) and countries (England, Spain, France, Italy, China, Russia etc...) have seen their power decline when they thought they were the most powerful.

A country cannot be focusing on war abroad and on its war at home (economy, health, social). When disparities grows too large, the balance is lost and things falls apart.

While USA tries to conquer Oil countries, China and Russia are working hand in hand to rebuild its power and Europe is investing in infrastructure and relations.

Soon USA will be left alone, not trusted, too bully to be part of future plans.

And when a country declines, its people suffer. USA had decades of glory and US economic growth, but the lovely times are over. China, Russia, and Europe knows it.

There is one last chance and it will comes from the will of the US people to see clearly. To see thru the color of man, thru tax cuts, and political agenda lacking vision and guidance for the country.

USA future is at stake and it must be rebuilt on new values, values that fit within today's world. USA is not alone, and if you think it is, you will isolate yourself from the rest of the world and decline miserably.

If you think God will save your country, well think again. (People in previous civilizations / countries probably thought the same).

And to all of you who voted for Bush and realized they made a mistake, you still have a choice to make it right.

I just hope some of you will have a light of common sense and vote for the one with visions to put USA on the right path. You might be proud of yourself by making the right decision for the current state of this country.


Posted by: Reality | September 4, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey abby0802 christians like creationsim over science! Duh! And what kind of 2 year old thinks it's "science" to say "well basicly there was nothing and then BANG the whole universe just kinda started" -give me a break, God created the whole thing! sorry it's hard to have to believe in things you can't see or explain, but that it, that's what you've got to do.

and I like the Hitler analogy, way to use an elephant gun to shoot at squirrels. but I think you might be right. Only its Obama who's the great orator, reads a great speech, has no experience. WHY couldn't the dems nominate someone of substance? You know Harry Truman is the last time the dems ran a qualified quality candidate.

And mainstream America is REPUBLICAN look at those USTODAY red and blue maps. Plus what she said WORKS. so my guess is you are really; I don't know michael moore?! not a christian woman from middle america!!

Posted by: abby0802 | September 4, 2008 11:13 AM

Posted by: readingalot | September 4, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

to capbilly:
first of all i dont believe that someone could deliver a speech with that conviction and sincerety if she didn't believe it wholeheartedly.

but, let's say she didn't write any of it - i don't care who writes palin's speeches. it shows that the someone - whether behind the scenes or in the spotlight - is thinking about issues i care about and giving some specific solutions and suggestions. i'd rather have substance coming from behind the scenes (palin mccain) rather than no substance at all (obama).
people know its not one single person you are voting for, but a team and collective group of ideals and beliefs.

Posted by: independent08 | September 4, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse


Why are liberal commenters so vile and sexist?

Posted by: julie | September 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Leave us alone to do what we want:

I do want higher taxes.

I want my government to do everything for me (I don't want to make an effort to succeed).

I don't care who sleeps with whom (except for my daughters, of course).

Stop now with the military BS and patriotism, you right-wing nuts. This is a free country.

Obama may not have any real experience, or may not know a thing about leadership, but he inspires me!

You just don't understand how I feel, and I hate you for it.

Posted by: ObamaFan | September 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

To me, appears to be a Dick Cheney with a vagina...

Posted by: Tim | September 4, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse


So when are these tough questions going to be asked of Obama? It's been two years and we still get puff pieces from the liberal media.

Posted by: julie | September 4, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Kevin - lay off the caps lock bud. As if reading in all caps wasn't hard enough, you go and destroy any argument you may have had with poor grammar, misspellings, no concept of punctuation points, and immature nicknames of the candidates. It'll be pretty funny when you go to vote and get turned away because you didn't realize you can't use your library card as proof of ID.

Posted by: Meridian Park | September 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Dear Drew...
I am told to bless my enemies...

May God bless you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

!!!ATTENTION GUYS WHO LIKE SARAH PALIN!!! Just because you want to boink her doesn't mean you should vote for her. Think with your other head!

Posted by: HotforSarah | September 4, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

I dont own this board board but me along with every other intelligent person would like to see you go. Do something your good at and go get a five piece over at KFC or a 40 OZ of Colt 45. Do whatever you do just quit writing garbage brotha! At least put a spell check on your posts my man, that would help!

Posted by: Drew | September 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Obama is running against McCain not Palin.

This is not that hard to understand. I think everyone is forgetting during the liberal's convention last week every single Democrat including Barack "I'm Above Politics" Obama was attacking McCain. Now when it's the Republicans turn everyone in the "Holier than Now" Democratic party is crying about the Republican attacks. Give me a break.

With all those highly paid strategists and the only talking point we keep hearing being repeated by all of Obama's surrogates is "She didn't write the speech"

No kidding!! Great Surprise there. No politician including the "Great One" Obama himself writes their own speech. In fact wasn't it Hilary that pointed out that Obama plagiarized parts of his speech?

I guess that law degree from Harvard comes in handy sometimes.

Posted by: Tubman | September 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

What has Obama done with all that Ivy league education? Sarah Palin may not have her graduate degree from Harvard, but she certainly has worked hard for what she has accomplished. The political path she has taken gives her more executive branch experience than Obama, who is running for president - not VP.

Yellodog - Let me get this straight; you would rather vote for a ticket with an inexperienced presidential candidate who learns from his experienced vice presidential running mate? I got news for you, if Obama wins, he won't be looking to Biden for advise (thank God).

Posted by: AverageDad | September 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm in Fear of Gov. Palin. I'm afraid what will happen if McCain, bomb bomb Iran and her get into office. More wiretaps, lobbyists deals under the table, earmarks that only benefit Alaska, drill drill drill and destroy destroy the environment. Yes I'm in Fear.

Posted by: Cooter | September 4, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Charlette | September 4, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

CM - I take it that your answer is "yes." I studied thermodynamics in 1st year college physics and the 2nd law of thermodynamics in an upper-level course, so I'm sympathetic to your 19th century notions. However, science marches on. Quantum theory tells us that matter and energy are interconvertable. Cosmology tells us that there was energy before matter. String theory is a work in progress, but appears to tell us that matter is energy (actually, more wonderful than that--one could say that everything is musical notes). And you apparently don't want to know where science is going from there, so I won't bother you any further. Enjoy your beliefs.

Posted by: Billions | September 4, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Democrats and Libs want list for your furture #1 for felons to vote #2 don't drill for oil #3 higher taxs for big and small companies #4 more grants to planned parenthood #5 the fairness doctrine #6 if your child is good at sports he or she sould not play #7 socialized medicines #8 illegals to vote TRUTH BEHIND IT #1 they will get the vote because they want to take your gun rights away #2 use up military reserve to weaken America #3 companies leave America to avoid higher taxes Americans lose jobs #4 more of you hard earned tax dollar for to late birth control. #5 shut your mouth you just lost you right to freedom of speech #6 we must make American children weak and insecure #7 we will take more out of your paycheck #8 who cares about the furture of America you only live once or I don't have children anyway.

Posted by: scott | September 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

The last governor we elected was Bush, and all that executive experience didn't help very much. Bush also, like Palin, doesn't believe in science and that didn't help very much. Nobody had more experience than Cheney and that didn't help very much.

Personalities aside, if you like how the country is going now, vote Republican, if you don't, vote Democratic. All this hoopla over speeches is a waste of time.

Posted by: MEB | September 4, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

she played to the lowest common denominator - she didn't tell the truth, but neither have most of the republicans... they played to the same people who still believe Iraq had something to do with 9/11 - people wake up! All you know for sure when most of these republican's are talking is that their mouths are moving...

and shame on the people who took such glee in the trash that was talked last night... please get a little class.

Posted by: manya | September 4, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

I love reading dem posts; so much anger so little knowledge. -and please don't read this post looking for typo's -that is so lame... it's a post not a resume...

some random thoughts;

this new VP candidate has more experience than those still running and both the dem's -especially Obama.

Bush Jr is the FIRST pol to really deliver on a promise (giving me MY money back). promises are seldom delivered by pols -soon as they make them public the other side knows what it has to block... probably why the media works so damn hard to discredit the guy -he actually delivered!

Change and hope are not policies but I think McCain showed more ability to manage change and provide hope with his pick than Obama with his...

for the guy who posted that russia is gearing up for a "cold war" -I seriously have to ask "do you know anything?" the US has something like 15-17 aircraft carriers -the most powerful weapons ever built literally cities on water. and more than the rest of the world combined... I think the "mighty" russia has 3.

Finally, I don't understand people trying to bash America. America is indeed without a doubt the greatest country on earth -EVER. Rome, egypt, england, etc all used their time in power to take. we free people, feed people, comfort, protect, pay their bills -just too many things to mention; liberate them, cure their diseases, restore them, tolerate them (france), -sorry for that one... etc etc etc...

Sure we've got some problems -show me 300+ million people who don't, but seriously educate yourselves read our history, none has done more for more with more! You want to bash someone bash those who think flying planes into towers will somehow make us all want to be muslims? you know it hasn't even been 10 years. people are madder about the shootings at Kent State some 30 some years ago.

Posted by: phil | September 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

He does not write ALL of his speeches. He writes some of them. And the ones that have been most well-received, he wrote.

He hired a speech writer due to a lack of time to write so many of them. The speech writer even asked why he was needed, since it was common knowledge Obama wrote the 2004 convention speech.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/84756/output/comments

Posted by: Fred | September 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

The magical problem with democracy is that everyone gets to vote. Many people do feel the legitimate threats from opposing economic, religious, lifestyle perspectives (among others), all expressed so effectively by Sarah Palin's speech writer, and her excellent delivery. These issues must be addressed by the Dems in similar terms, while connecting them all to the values and firm action that this speech ignored, maimed & twisted, for example, that Dems proposals to: improve the personal tax burden (the opposite of what this speech wrongly stated) through a combination of tax cuts and economic development; raise national security to a new level, refuting the partisan attempt to cast political dialog as foolish, which is actually the most naive and dangerous perspective; and to support both the religious & secular foundations of the country on behalf of all citizens, assuring that even Republilcans will have their rights read to them. Each of the mis-stated points from this well-written speech must be countered head on with facts and conviction. If the Dems let these points slide because this interesting and disingenuous woman can effectively present the GOP's mis-statements, mis-quotes & hockey mom humor, with no serious proposal for improving the economy other than war and anti-Muslim bravado, then the democracy's vote will demonstrate that slander is preferred to truth, and our children's lives are less important than the fears we grew up with.

Biden in particular must debate this effectively, and not personally, and must stay above the temptation to toss insults and false statements at the same level. If it were Hillary in Joe's (or O's) position, we'd all be better off. Democrats seem to have never figured out that while some group of people will vote for nice guys, more will vote for people who claim to understand everything, & take bold and ridiculous action in the attempt to make it so.

Posted by: Doug | September 4, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

What a convention. The former 2000 Democrat VP nominee supports McCain and tells us how inexperienced Bambi is. Does it get better than that? Oh, yes it does. Rudy tells us Bambi's record in clear detail (hint: connect the tip of you index finger with the tip of your thumb). Nothing better. Oh, yes, it does get better....Sarah. She, with a smile to diffuse the best of them, but a knife in the Obama's fairy tale story (to quote the Clintons). All the fake Greek columns aren't going to help Bambi against a true American story.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

By the Republicans definition of experience...she would also be more qualified than John McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

She said what? She was a pit bull with lip stick?

This is serious she is trying to steal the Pet Owner Votes!

Democrats are courting all Republican and Independent Pet owners and their family! You heard right! Their Pets are their Family too!

We will not concede Talking Dog fans!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCYaw5tGYAs


We will not concede Funny Cat fans!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTasT5h0LEg

Ch’áak’ naax xat sitee

Change we can believe in!

Vote Obama/Biden '08


Posted by: Ch’áak’ Eagle | September 4, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Palin is in favor of the death penalty.
So to her the precious unborn soul is suddenly worthless after being born, as human judge and jury have the right to end any life they decide deserve it. Just a coincidence they usually decide poor disadvantaged people deserve it.
I personally think abortion is wrong, but FORCING my beliefs on others is even worse.
I dont want to live with the guilt of watching poor young women go to jail for aborting a child they can't afford to raise.
TYRANNY IS WRONG

Posted by: listener | September 4, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey Drew - news flash pardner...you don't own this board and you damn right I will comment all the hell I want about whatever I want so thanks but no thanks "massa" - I don't need your permission anymore.

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Palin's Alaska state government is wholly dependent on oil company PROFITS, set up very much like a commission arrangement. The more oul sold and shipped from Alaska, the more cash there is for the state.
It's the only such macro funding program in the country.
She raised the tax rates on big oil in her state and signed on with a McCain who refuses to consider the same at the federal level.
There's such a conflict of interest on her part for promoting big oil, with husband and friends in the industry that she and her state would have been better off avoiding the radioactive light of the present press coverage.
Alaska is going through such growing pains, that to add Palin's drama could be very upsetting to their status as one of the latest states to join the union...

Posted by: statehood or seccession? | September 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Dear Drew:

My words are not to harm you,
but to warn you how in danger you are in harming yourself...

Take it for what it is worth

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

common poeple I guess Republicans love the direction America's economy and foreign policy is taking on now, have fun trying to destroy this nation with four more years of WAR mongering and politics based on FEAR of change.

I also have a good suggestion to those doubtful of science.. STOP enjoying new techonology.

CLONING FOR LIFE.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Keep running and hiding, Libs! We'll hunt you, find you, and obliterate you!

"The fear is evident. Sorry Mindless Obama Worshippers. Your Messiah is all done..

Buh Bye.
Bye Now.
Buh Bye."

Long live Queen Sarah!

Posted by: FromSpace | September 4, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

she's a homeroom teacher gone wild...she'll find out soon enough what a community organizer does.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

what I find amusing, and sad, is that most of the defenses, arguments, critisisms against both parties sound EXACTLY the same. Why not be adults and use some dignaty and general respect. Choose your vote, and make it, and do it in a way you can sleep at night, or should I say you can sleep at night if you have a heart.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

DC and SLM:
It is tough reading your posts because of the lack of education affiliated with them. Racism is bad, and the only racist fact associated with this election will be the percentage of African American votes that Obama receives. I live in the south, around good black people and bad ones; I have black friends and I see black people I despise however I’m far from racist. If you can honestly sit behind your computer and say you’re voting for Obama for policy issues and experience rather then the color of his skin then support that with some facts. Other then that, keep writing your ridiculous comments and keep dreaming that a black president will help your culture because he will not.

Posted by: Drew | September 4, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

This whole election is eroding into senseless bullshizzle with the issues being tossed out the window to make way for more National Enquireresque media propoganda nonsense. Be glad when Obama wins this joint so folks can shut up.

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Bambi smoking crack and doing cocaine...perhaps that's why he didn't have the common sense to put Hillary on the ticket. Now the woman of the campaign is Sarah. What a week can do in politics. Read any analysis and you can't even begin to feel for the best lines of the speech, there were so many. This on the heels of Rudy dissecting Bambi's lack of experience. What a night. Red meat? I think they left the bleeding cow on stage for the media vultures to wonder what happened!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Nicolas De Walo,

Wow, using your real name with a comment like that. I am surprised you even know how to use a computer you dumb arse.

-Failed

Posted by: Failed | September 4, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

I greatly despise Sarah Palin. She was nasty, rude and crude. I don't think she was clever or funny with any of the remarks that she made. She tried to cut Obama down for the things he did in his community. Oh but he's an elitist? Another Republican that's all for the party but not for the people. Shocking! The difference between Palin and a pitbull? I'd trust a pitbull around my family and it might do a better job running hers.

Posted by: Michelle | September 4, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Congrats Sarah Palin, Youll be a great Vice President., Or President for that matter. If you want to learn more about Sarah Palin or her Back Ground they have alot of Background Info, Pics, Videos, about Sarah and her Family. http://www.veeppeek.com The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

...all they were missing was the sheets to put over their heads....

Posted by: nomo | September 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Re: "At any rate, although Palin seems great and all, being a beauty pageant contestant, hockey mom and mooseburger connaisseur, etc, does not really impress me much at all. She is not perfect as everyone presents her to be."

I don't know about everyone else, but perfection is not what i'm looking for. Perfection is not conceivable. I'm happy to know that someone who has real life issues and problems will be in office. Someone eho can relate to you and me.

So its a bad thing that her daughter is 17, unmarried, and pregnant. Mistakes happen. Obama's wife also made a comment n national television about "whitey" if you recall. I'd rather have a mother of five, with experience in real life issues, making decisions for my country, rather than a racist.

Everyone talks about the negative they see in Palin, could someone show me the good things in Obama, because i can't see it. All i see is someone who takes the american flag off of his plane, won't wear an American flag pin, and has a wife who makes racist comments. Those things alone make it difficult to look past his flaws.


Posted by: PalinSupporter | September 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I believe everyone should work hard, with their hands.

Handouts are nver good, as the workman is worthy of his meat.
Yet I know that the goverment is full of fatcats in Washington, whose only merit is where they went for lunch, or where they are going for dinner.

This is the real government welfare that needs to be reformed.
What about the Billions+ dollars in handouts (bailouts) to the starving huge banks.
Afterall, they are the true needy, aren't they?

Why is it that working to revive dead communities has no merit in the eyes of the fat cats?

Just as in the depression, this country is really just one step away from financial doom. Some of the people you choose to hate, stereotype and degrade, may be the very "community organizers," that you may need to feed you; maybe even spoon-feed you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

The best idea is to move the African Americans and the Hispanic back to Africa and Mexico, respectively.

Posted by: Nicolas De Walo | September 4, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

It's not:
4 more years of the same? (per the DEMs)as far as JSM goes it's: 4 years of mccain.

(there is a big difference here) You can't even compare a man like JSM to GWB, same party or no

Posted by: jiw08 | September 4, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

I often wonder if Chock Full of Nuts is not the official sponsor of the Republican Party National Convention. I thought Country First referred to their music selection and not to the best interests of the USA. By the way, when is the press going to review the respective party platforms.

Posted by: ejgallagher1 | September 4, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

The Clintons are loving this. You gotta believe that Bill sat back and wondered where was this 'political babe' when he was single. You know he had that tingle down his leg as Sarahcuda eviserated Bambi with a smile. She did what the Clintons were afraid to do on the campagin trail, she highlighted the zero experience of Bambi. Then she took the media on headstrong, unlike the Clintons who let their surrogates shout 'sexism'. Sarahcuda did to Obambi what Jessie Jackson whispered about doing to him...cut his balls off...and she did it with a smile!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I love it when a bully is silenced by a punch to the mouth, and last night the main stream media was the bully being punched by Sarah Barracuda.

Posted by: tom g | September 4, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Well, nobody can say it's going to be a boring campaign.

In the past I have been a registered Democrate I had to change because I didn't quite fit the Party, then I went with Republican, but found I could not for any reason vote for Bush the first time and was devastated when he was elected again. This election I changed from Republican to Independent because I CAN decide for myself without the Party line crap.

The only thing I can say about Obama is "Teachers teach because they can't do"...where are your written Bills?

And for McCain start controlling your campaign...the good 'ol" boys are screwing you over.

Biden...Yawn! Sorry, I fell asleep there...

Palin...simmer down...think before you speak. There are real issues at stake, if you make it to VP; hope like the dickins that McCain lives long enough for you to learn something...

As for this country...PRAY to God that one of these candidates has some real life experience that will be used for the good for this country and the knowledge that we need to repair the damage the current administration has done with foreign affairs!!!

Where in the world is Condoleezza Rice? Now, she would be an excellent President. Intelligence, experience and proven ability. I would vote for her.

I am one of those still trying to make up my mind about which set of losers I will vote for...so, I'm watching each of them very closely.


Posted by: NaNa Banana | September 4, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Written above:

"While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from the library some books that Sarah wanted removed."

ANYONE KNOWS WHAT WERE THOSE BOOKS?


Posted by: Benoit Roux | September 4, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Is this a serious comment board about the election? All I see is rude talk and why the other party are a bunch of idiots. How is this helping our nation?

Posted by: Frustrated | September 4, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

More Rosanne Barr than Ronald Reagan.

While she exonerated McCain for his hasty choice, and energized the party faithful, very few others seem to be impressed.

It was a low bar. She passed. But given McCain’s age, Palin is a difficult pill for most Americans to swallow.

Posted by: Republican VN Era Vet | September 4, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

That wasn't even a speech Palin made it was a toned-down tirade. Cheney with boobs anyone?

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN MADE ONE MISTAKE: GETTING SHOT DOWN.
HE MADE A BIGGER MISTAKE WHEN HE GAVE HIS CAPTORS MORE THAN HIS NAME, RANK AND SERIAL NUMBER.
MCCAIN CRACKED. HE CONFESSED TO WAR CRIMES, SLANDERING US FIGHTING FORCES AND OUR NATION IN
A PROPAGANDA FILM MADE TO ORDER FOR THE NORTH VIETNAMESE COMMUNISTS.
I WAS A PRISONER OF WAR IN VIETNAM, BUT I DIDN'T BETRAY MY COUNTRY AND MY COMRADES IN ARMS
THE WAY JOHN MCCAIN DID. AMERICA'S ENEMIES MAY WANT A TRAITOR, CHEATER AND A COWARD AS OUR NEXT PRESIDENT
BUT I SURE DON'T. SO I WON'T VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN.
TRUE CHRISTIAN AND FAITHFUL PERSON WILL BE STUPID TO VOTE FOR MCCHEATER WHO HAS ADMITTED ADULTERY, SINCE VOTING FOR HIM AS SAME AS ENDORSING ADULTRY.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

This is what Palin want to teach in our public schools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPYuo12hY4

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 4, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

In his book Obama writes about the need for people to take responsibility and the need to prevent unwanted pregnancies so we can reduce the number of abortions. In his speech last week he said We may not agree on abortion but we can agree on reducing the number of unwanted pregnancies.
The Republicans want to force people to their will and they take an All Or Nothing stance. The Democrats are much more willing to work within the bounds of reality even if that reality is not ideal. They are willing to seek the common ground so that people can work together on solving problems with the end result of bringing their reality closer to the ideal.
You have to read this guy's book to understand just how effective he is at bringing people together and getting them to work on solutions together.THAT is whaat is inspiring.

Posted by: merry | September 4, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Sarahcuda...WOW...what else can be said. The look on Keith Overbite's face and Chris Softball's face was utter shock and awe. They didn't see the incoming fire, and they couldn't duck the obvious. Sarahcuda hit it out of everyball park with an ease of a pro. The Dumocrats have truly seen a strong, feminine female take now prisoners in defending her favor prisoner. Truly priceless speech!

Posted by: Matt | September 4, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jon T,

The Republicans are the ones bashing the Democrats on public TV. Get your head straight you republican puppet.

-Failed

Posted by: Failed | September 4, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

As a young (30 yrs old) Democrat, I watched Palin's speech last night, out of respect and fairness for the other party. I wanted to be informed of both sides and their views during this important election. This election is one that I am actually going to vote in, which makes me proud, since I know that most young people don't normally take part in that privilage. At any rate, although Palin seems great and all, being a beauty pageant contestant, hockey mom and mooseburger connaisseur, etc, does not really impress me much at all. She is not perfect as everyone presents her to be. All that I heard from her was bad mouthing and WAR, WAR, WAR talk! "Country first", I mean really, were they serious? If you do your research, you will see that she has accepted questionable contributions, supports oil drilling, smoked marijuana and advicates for abstinence, when she should have been advicating for sex education along with handing her daughter and bf a condom (would have saved her VP campaign a lot of headache). Not to mention that her eskimo husband didn't even want Alaska to continue to be part of the U.S. I like her energy and spunk, but I don't want her to be President, should McCain's heart stop beating one day (and we know from all that POW torture he went through that it could give out any day now). I have seen what the last 8 years have resulted in for our great country, not to mention how the rest of the world perceives Americans now. My point...we can not afford more of what they will bring if the McCain/Palin ticket wins. Forget the party affiliations, just look at the issues and do your research for this election. It really matters...for once!

Posted by: CMG | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

First off, doesn't Palin look like Saturday Night Live's Tina Fey? I can't wait to see their sketches on the conventions.

Second, does any of the republican speakers have anything else to say other than they are Americans? All I heard was a bunch of bashing on Obama and Biden, which last I heard, are also Americans. Sure Palin had success in a state that has maybe 3 problems for her to focus on, what about a country that has thousands of problems to focus on? And problems that are a little more important than a bridge?

Third, if anybody thinks what has been said thus far in the RNC is going to swing their vote, they need to get their heads examined. This is not the first time we have heard a lot of bright and shinny promises and nothing was delivered. And our economy is not doing well contrary to what they say. Why else would the government resort to a last effort "economic stimulus package" for companies and individuals? Sounds like a way to patch up a bad economic plan.

It is time for a change. Don't let a bad campaign tactics cloud your judgment.

Also, I like how the democrats can fill a football stadium, but the republicans can't even fill an auditorium. I guess there aren't enough large business owners in Minnesota. -Failed

Posted by: Repubs_Fail!!! | September 4, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse


WHY OH WHY DO DEMOCRAT SUPPORTERS ALWAYS USE INSULTS AND INVECTIVE TO MAKE THEIR POINT???

Reading these comments calling Sarah a 'lunatic' or worse, and that her speech 'full of hatred' makes me want to see them lose. Lose badly.

Bad losers or what?

Posted by: Jon T | September 4, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Democrats and liberial's what America's suicide. Think about it they want people in prison to have the right to vote / Democrats want to take your gun rights away. / they want to use are military reserves to lower gas prices instead of drilling for oil I hope America doesn't get invaded the reserve would come in handy / Democrats pump in alot of your tax dollar in big grants to planned parenthood / funny name for a place that ends parenthood / they want to raise taxes on big and small companys / and then tell you not to worrie about your job. / fairness doctrine in reality means you will lose your right to free speech what sounds good in words doesn't mean Democrats and Liberials are the ones who will lead you,where you don't want to be.

Posted by: scottyd | September 4, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

The fear is evident. Sorry Mindless Obama Worshippers. Your Messiah is all done..

Buh Bye.
Bye Now.
Buh Bye.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

WOW, THANKS MCCAIN, CHOOSING PALIN AS SAME AS ENDORSING AND PRAISING OBAMA QUALIFICATION AND HIS CHANGE POLICY ,
NOW ASK THIS QUESTION WOULD MCCAIN HAVE CHOSEN PALIN IF OBAMA HAD CHOSEN HILLARY WHOM WOMEN
SUPPORTED HER BECAUSE SHE'S STRONG, EXPERIENCED, MATURE AND WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENCY NOT VP? IS IT MCCAIN FIRST OR COUNTRY FIRST?
MCCHEATER BY CHOOSING A PRETTY, PERKY, YOUNG HOCKEY-MOM GOVERNOR FOR HIS RUNNING MATE REGARDLESS OF THE FACT
THAT EVEN HER OWN COLLEAGUES UP IN ALASKA SAY SHE'S NOT READY FOR PRIME TIME, AND HER UNMARRIED 17-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WAS FIVE-MONTH PREGNANT, WHILE HIMSELF CALL WOMEN VULGAR
NAMES SUCH AS C&NT. CHEAT ON THEM BY DOING ADULTRY, THEN DIVORCE AND MARRY A RICH, YOUNGER WOMAN TO LAUNCH THE POLITICAL CAREER ,
ONE MONTH LATER. DO NOT GIVE THEM RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR OWN BODIES. OPPOSE EQUAL
PAY FOR WOMEN, BY AVOIDING TO VOTE ON THE FAIR PAY ACT. WOMEN WOULD HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY
DUMB AND SELF-LOATHING TO SUPPORT JOHN MCJERK, VOTING FOR HIM AS SAME AS ENDORSING ADULTRY.HOW COULD YOU TRUST THIS CHEATER MAN TO LEAD AMERICA?

Posted by: kevin | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Her speech was flat, rehearsed, well-delivered, and dry. She did nothing extraordinary. She read off a teleprompter which, if memory serves, is what all the Conservatives criticize Obama about. But wait, we can't criticize her because she is a woman. Give me a break. If that's the case, any attack on Obama is an act of racism. Her line about not belonging to any clique, WRONG. We know which group she belongs to, it's called the Alaskan Indepence Party. And why were you for the bridge until you were elected? No mention of any policy, just the defamation of Obama. I'm sick of Sarah Plain & False. The GOP is a cult.

Posted by: Sarah Plain and False | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Doing more harm than good? To who? 99.999% of the folks posting on this board got their minds made up already who they want in office and a few quips and comments by a lil' colored boy like me ain't gonna change their mind one way or the other. Add to the fact that I couldn't care less what the consensus opinion of Obama supporters is and it all ads up to one giant I don't give a *bleep*

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

The government evidently owed a whole lot more to the mighty banks they gave the greatest handouts in history to.

Does Bear-Sterns ring a bell?

Posted by: sc | September 4, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

DC - you're doing your party more harm than good - please refrain from leading people to believe their assumptions on Obama supporters are correct.

Posted by: Liberal Advice | September 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"DC" of course you are because a true supporter of Obama would "never" post comments such as you have. They of full of hate and statements to cause fear. As I said A true Republican.

Posted by: Obama Supporter | September 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Sarah seems to have liberals on the run with in only a week!

Posted by: Barbara | September 4, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Billions,
Any candidate who believes creationism doesn't understand science? What view should our candidates hold? Evolution? Since the law of Thermodynamics proves that matter cannot be created only changed, where did everything come from? The ONLY explanation is creation by God. And you will never be able to prove that because scientists can never replicate what only God can do. And by the way, they are just working within their human limitations. Remember up until recently Pluto was a planet! I am glad that Sarah Palin understands that we have a God that is much bigger than science.

Posted by: CM | September 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Ok, I'm not sure where some of you are coming from Hate??? I didn't hear hate, the republicans aren't the ones out violently protesting in the street...the republicans are the ones name calling and trying to divide the country...republican believe in the working class..republican don't want bigger government...all the layers and millionaires in congress don't have a clue how to budget a thing...Sarah talked about oil indepence by more drilling of our own resources while also advancing technology with wind power and nuclear power sounds like a plan to me... this would help solve the issues of rising gas prices, rising grocery prices etc...thereby helping the average citizen..the world is at strife around us now is not the time to cut our military or give an impression to the world that we are not tough enough to finish what we start...by the way they are already talking about a time table for pull out of Irag and no democrats can't take responsiblity for that...As far as abortion goes..when roe vs wade was passed the fetus was refered to as tissue...with the technology that we now have we all know that, that tissue is an individual with a heart/arms./legs feet seperate dna not a piece of the a womans body....there is no stigman to being unwed and pregnant in america any more (a sad statement of our morality)however with this comes greater access to birth control...a dangerous medical procedure that can harm the mother and kills the baby is not an answer and should not be used as birth control...also with the new cervical cancer vaccine...why not just explain to our young daughters that the HPV virus is a sexually transmitted disease...having multiple sexual partners increase your risk of getting it...why not teach our daughters to respect themselves enough not to just casually share what should be given out of love and with respect from their partner....no one in my daughters high school even talked about prevention except for the vaccine....scared her to death for no reason...she and I had the talk and she is committed to not being sexually active and being one less.
regarding African Americans and the republican party we welcome you condi Rice is the secretary of state representing our nation abroad...wow a woman and an African American,/....Clarence Thomas is a supreme court justice, the highest court of the land...Colin powell was a general and secretary of state for a republican president....I suggest to you that the reason most African Americans refuse to acknowledge these accomplishments is because these accomplishments weren't given to these Americans they believed in themselves and worked their way up to these high positions within our government...not believing that america owed them but believing that they had something to give to make america better. I will state here that I am not racist..I judge man/woman by there deeds and actions..I don't see in colors/sex or nationality...my mother is a first generation immigrant from the old country. President bush has implemented an extensive aids package to african...republicans are not indifferent to the world around us but neither do we pander to our enemies....I could go on but I know now some of you Love spouting democrats are going to accuse me of hate and call me names so have at it.

Posted by: ward | September 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

The global economy is in a down turn...it is cyclical and will turn around. In 5 yrs everyone will be talking about some bubble stocks,housing etc. When did we all get so short sited? Since when does the govt owe us anything besides safe streets and protection against invasion?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

"Obama supporter" I ain't no Republican and nothing I said was indicative of the fact. Wake up!!

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I'd like someone to show me where it states that Obama writes his own speeches, and Palin doe not. Also, I want some sort of proof that this is fact. Just because it appears on the internet doesn't make it fact.

Posted by: Fact or fiction | September 4, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Dana
That is the point... there will always be someone who needs to have abortion as an option and it needs to be there for that few.
How would you say goodbye to your 5 year old if you were dying (probably along with your fetus)from complications of your pregnancy? How would you like to be in labor delivering a baby and reliving the terror of its conception the night you were beaten and raped by a stranger?

We should aspire to make Every Child A Wanted Child but that will not happen if Abstinence Only is the rule.Not in this culture which is so sickenly bent on cheapening sexual intimacy. This crowd is not going to switch over to your way of thinkng overnight no matter how much you will it to be so.
I wish we lived in a world where the only abortions that were needed were those to save a woman's life
but I would rather know that someone had an abortion at 3 months gestation rather than 3 years later reading in the paper that her child was beaten to death by her boyfriend who is not the child's father and does not value the child's life and is perhaps resentful of his woman having another man's child. This is reality .

Posted by: merry | September 4, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Drew: Buddy, as you tell someone to get their presidents right, you might want get your assassinations right. RFK =Robert F. Kennedy and he was assassinated when he was running for president by Sirhan Sirhan.

Posted by: Kelly | September 4, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN A TRUE AMERICAN TRAITOR PUTTING HIMSELF FIRST BEFORE HIS OWN COUNTRY.
ASK AMERICAN POWS THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT HAVING SHAME AND BE OFFENDED BY HIM WHILE KNOWING THAT HE WAS CRACKED AND
GAVE UP HIS COUNTRY TO COMMUNISTS PLAYING IN MOVIE AGAINST HIS OWN COUNTRY.
AMERICAN ENEMY MAY WANT THIS COWARD AND CROOK AS PRESIDENT BUT REAL AMERICAN HEROES NOT.
TRUE CHRISTIAN AND FAITHFUL PERSON WILL BE STUPID TO VOTE FOR MCCHEATER WHO HAS ADMITTED ADULTERY, SINCE VOTING FOR HIM AS SAME AS ENDORSING ADULTRY.

Posted by: kevin | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

To Bob:
So small minded,
so small minded,
so content with such a small, small mind...

Posted by: sc | September 4, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Obama writes his own big speeches. The 2004 convention speech. The race speech. The nomination speech.

Posted by: Fred | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

"Did I miss the speech where Obama said anything of substance?""

Posted by: Amused | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM

Uh, yeah I think you did!! It's not all about punching back and being a smart***. I mean seriously have you really watched all these speeches??!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

First, any presidential candidate that believes in creationism doesn't understand science and has a problem reconciling beliefs with facts. Science doesn't care what you believe, it only asks, "does it work?" We've already had one administration that has worked hard to wipe out scientific fact and replace it with ideology. Do you want another?

Second, drilling for oil to solve our energy problem is a fraud. The oil companies are trying to steal resources from the American taxpayer and lock them up before they get more expensive. The American people own that oil. Oil in the ground is better than money in the bank, and the oil companies and their friends, like Palin, know it. Oil's value compounds while it's in the ground. The oil companies and their stockholders (of which I'm one, but I'm willing to call a spade a spade) want to sit on oil in the ground as fast as they can add it to their balance sheets. And they want it on their balance sheets before they'll have to pay the American people tomorrow's higher prices for our natural inheritance.

Oil companies have to answer to their share holders. Oil is drilled in response to market forces at a rate that increases oil company wealth--not to make America secure. Whatever one believes, Palin is working for the big guy, because she's all about giving away future oil wealth at today's prices. Get this, Alaskans don't pay any state tax while the rest of us do, and then they expect us to send yet more pork North while they work to give away more of America's wealth. Do you blame them? They're getting rich while they beggar us all.

Third, reducing taxes without paying for spending is a dirty trick played on the hard-working American taxpayer by really sneaky politicians. The biggest no-tax frauds (Reagan, Bush & Bush) have piled on more public debt than all of the rest of the US administrations in the history of the republic. That is funded by (1) selling off the country's assets to foreign owners, and (2) devaluing the basis of the American dollar, which one learns in freshman economics is among the worst types of tax. I cannot figure why American taxpayers don't seem to get it that $150 dollars to buy groceries that cost $50 dollars 10 years ago is the tax imposed by no-tax policies of our Republican administrations. Thanks to these policies, you're now working for foreigners more than ever before.

No one wants taxes and everyone wants government spending as long as it is in their town--Palin and her constituents in Alaska are no less enthusiastic than the rest of us for bringing home the Federal Pork without paying for it, so get smart America.

Cutting taxes without cutting spending eliminates any constituency for holding down spending. That very simply is why deficits have gone ballistic in three successive Republican administrations. Cutting taxes as a mindless mantra is like handing out credit cards and telling people they can throw away the bill every month. My mantra is, make spending hurt, baby; make them pay for it as it happens; and there will be a lot less spending done a lot more carefully.

Posted by: Billions | September 4, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Bob (white):

Because the people at the DNC are all interested in benefiting from the government programs paid for by taxing the the heck out of the RNC attendees.

Posted by: Simple | September 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS INSULTING AND A TRUE REPUBLICAN POSTED IT.

"White folks done lost their mind and don't know what to do with themselves. The fear of a Black President got them trying every trick in the book to keep him outta office from starting conflicts in Georgia to nominating this inexperienced ill-tempered broad as VP. Why don't y'all just do what your redneck heart tells you to do and just knock Obama off RFK style cause that's the only way McCain will win."

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM

Posted by: Obama Supporter | September 4, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Speech was condescending. The convention looks like a tent revival full of white people...scary!!

Posted by: Haelan | September 4, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

This is so true it bears repeating.
So Cheneyesque, lying to the American people on her first day out (bridge to nowhere and her "rejection" of the money). She's proven she can lie, be vicious and divisive, and motivate the ultra right who so dearly love their country. To that, add her rejection of evolution, denial that climate change is human caused, obsession with continuing our tragic oil-based energy system... the list goes on. If they're elected, I wonder when she'll hold that first secret "energy summit."

She's also proven she can read the heck out of a teleprompter and do whatever she's told--just tell me who to smear and I'm out there. A great Republican. I was really hoping that having a female presence on the Repub side might mean more civility and grace. Not happening.

FOUR MORE YEARS!!

Than you Dennis

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone explain to me why the Republican convention was dominated by 99.9% white folks while the Dems had such a variety of delegates from all ethnic groups?

Posted by: Bob (white) | September 4, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Poor Drew...
You would be surprised who is Black here, and who is White...

...and who is black on the inside with what the unfortunate predudices your unfortunate parents taught you.

Racism is bad from either side,
and only shows what a small fragment of a mind therein exists.

Posted by: SLM | September 4, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

so let me ask you this, if you had a 4 mo. old, you would not allow your other children to hold it while your spouse is sitting right there the entire time?? There are plenty of negative things to be seen, if you're looking for them, too bad Obama just puts them out there on a silver platter.

Posted by: Palin Fan | September 4, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

The liberals have no ideas, no clue as to the future of the country.

Man's natural inclination is for a small government, one that gets the heck out of their lives. Liberals are going against this natural impulse (as did the communists).

Palin's speech was fine. I think she will do even better as she learns to handle large, boisterous crowds. The level of hate spewing from liberals will rise as Palin gets better and better. Prepare to hear screeching watch the foaming of the mouth from liberals.

Isn't this everyman's idea of a pretty darned good wife? Bright, articulate and pretty. Plus she likes to hunt and play at sports. Plus she's an excellent mother from all accounts. Plus she has a sense of humor.

She has a bright future, win or lose in November.

Posted by: Scott S. | September 4, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Nina - You must be running a nonprofit business.

Posted by: AverageDad | September 4, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Drew you dumb arse haven't you ever heard of Bobby Kennedy? Man y'all white folks is ign'ant

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Most of you have never lived under a socialist/communist regime - so I can understand your ignorance. Many of the ideas/policies supported and introduced by Senator Obama are quite disturbing and reminisent of the doctrine of a country I left behind for those very ideals.

Value your true freedom/independence - it's invaluable.

Posted by: Capitalist | September 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

She's just another member of the American Taliban. A book-banning, abstinence-education-only, vengeful person.

But isn't it funny how excited Republicans are about a speech?

Posted by: ma317 | September 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a 20th century man in a 21st century world.

Posted by: Loren | September 4, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

DC = Another man holding his hands out waiting for the government and taxpayers to do his work and take care of his family!!!

You are a prime example of why you and a lot of other people should be no where near a voting booth come November. First off it was JFK who got assassinated not RFK (whoever that is); secondly, if you think a black man (who is not 100 % African American by the way) will help you get out of the projects which you probably reside in, you’re sadly mistaken buddy. It is funny to read African American posts on blogs always referring to white people and racism. I’m sorry DC but slavery is over buddy, we as a society don’t owe you anything. A black president won’t improve your living condition buddy, only a 40 hr a week job will do that. Take your stereotypes and ill-mannered thought process somewhere else; learn how to spell, get your presidents right, and stop collecting money from the government before you go and vote in November.

Posted by: Drew | September 4, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

This adoration for Palin is at best staged. Let's look at the facts. Alaska has a population that is smaller than eighteen U. S. cities. Seventy percent of the state is federal lands controlled by the federal government. So much for the statements that she is the governor responsible for the largest state in the union.

Palin was part of the same political gang she turned against after she didn't get the earlier nod for the Lt. Governor position. Both her republican and democratic opponents were being investigated by the Feds at election time for potential fraud and kickbacks. She supported Ted Stevens prior to turning against him after the "bridge to nowhere" made the news nationally.

In her early "career" she fired city employees who exercised their rights as U.S. citizens and voted for her opponent. Sounds vaguely familiar with the goings on at the U.S. Justice department under Bush when career appointments were determined by the applicant’s political party in violation of federal law.

Posted by: Pete A | September 4, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I love reading all the fear that is emanating from the liberal postings here. It is particularly amusing reading about how Governor Palin didn't put forth a plan for "fixing" the economy and healthcare. You guys really need a lesson in how economies work and how our American system of government works.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

addman
The Bible says that if you follow God that the world will despise you. It is no shock to us Bible-thumpers as you call us!

Posted by: CM | September 4, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

At what age should not protecting children become ok? When they are old enough to fight a questionable war? Is it okay then to kill them off?

Posted by: SLM | September 4, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

You men who are taken with Palin -- don't get confused. Just because you want to bonk her doesn't mean you should vote for her. Think with your other head.

Posted by: WantingtodoSarah | September 4, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Black Power!!!
Obama '08

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Worried,
You can read into my comments what you like. I support our troops and never made any comment to the contrary. However, men and woman of the military did get a "Choice". Sign up or don't sign up! I believe if I went into the military, I would go there knowing that I may be called upon to defend my country. Unborn children have no voice. Who will protect them? If you want to quote Scripture, then you surely know that God said He knit those children together in their mother's womb. They are not a choice to be made, they are a living child. And I am not saying either party is above sin and mistakes, but for me, this issue of protecting unborn children should be a no-brainer, even for a non-Christian!

Posted by: dana | September 4, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

To all the Republicans who are harping on the experience issue. What
were you thinking when you voted George twice. His experience was incredibly bad.Ran companies into the ground, only to be bailed out by Daddy or Saudis.
Obama talks about changing things in a hopeful humane way. That is what we need in this country.
By the way, I grew up in Northern Minnesota, I knew lots of hockey Moms I didn't like at all.

Posted by: Rick | September 4, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Palin, a Governor from a small state, is used to fighting great battles with small men. She is the perfect match for the great battle this election is shaping up to be: Big issues, with advocates of change big and small paring off against one another. Let the battle begin! Palin McCain 08!

Posted by: E Elchonen | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Did I miss the speech where Obama said anything of substance?

Posted by: Amused | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

This is what Palin wants to teach in our public schools.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAPYuo12hY4

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

The Dem-supports are going off the deep end. "lets be a little bit nicer"

Rep- supports don't get them going. That does not help the cause.

Remember whoever you vote for "you control them" DO NOT let the leaders control you.

They want your money, votes, and support.
Never give money unless you are willing to lose it.
YOU have more power with the word (nice words), votes and support (opinion polls)

Politician love to be loved.

Posted by: gman | September 4, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

This is the mindset that amazes me more than anything else. Despite tons of evidence to the contrary, people truly, truly believe this. Wow.

Go see (if you dare) what the rest of the world is thinking. Overwhelmingly, they aren't buying her for ten seconds, and unless you're a complete Xenophobe, this ought to matter.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
MC said:
Sarah's got more executive experience than McCain, Obama and Biden combined. Obviously, she should be running for President.

Posted by: MC | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM

Posted by: Laua | September 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Originally posted by Posted by: Jhonny | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM

"I voted for Bush 8 years ago. Why?
Because he was a better choice then Gore.

I voted for Bush 4 years ago. Why?
Because he was a better choice then Kerry.

I will vote for McCain in Nov. Why?
Because he is a better choice then Obama.

Democrats- find a real candidate and you might just get my vote. I am tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils."

-------

Wow, your stupidity actually surpasses that of your failed leaders.

You obviously dont believe in democracy if you're going to vote for the same party even after it has failed you time and again.

When a leader messes up we are lucky enough to live in a country where we can replace him. When a party is too strong, we can diminish its strength.

I think those who are still voting republican this year should move to Russia, where they wont have to forfeit their chance to vote, its already useless.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

you bible thumping americans really need to take your head out of your arses.

You are spending billions losing 2 wars!
You're economy is on a downward spiral!
Your debt is retardedly high!
You have no respect for your environment or the brains to protect it!
The worlds view of you is horrible / hates you!
Russia is gearing up for a cold war!
You resources are thinner then ever!

Yet i still see you ignorant republicans backing your ideology?? When will the truth get through your thiCK THICK SKULLS!!!

All this

Posted by: addman | September 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

She made some promises that republicans haven't kept before. I don't see them keeping them now. She did back up the more war and fear, less jobs promise of McCain. I sure she will deliver since the Powers and Principalities have chosen her to be President.

Posted by: Gnostic | September 4, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

In response to: hamishdad
McCain: Hey Sarah, do you think we should invade Georgia tonight?

Palin: I don't know, Johnnie. What do you think we should do?

Obama: I vote Present again!!!

How come nobody brings up the fact that in order to fill the MILE HIGH STADIUM for Obama last week and in Berlin they had to have a rock concert in which anyone who wasnt a delegate had to pay to get in Also when a Republican demonstrates they do so orderly, if you noticed during your show, I mean convention, there werent any films of people covering there faces and breaking store windows.

Posted by: GOPMOMENTUM | September 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I take offense to this woman who at 44 thinks that she has the experience and has the selfishness to run for such a major office in this country, when she has a Special Needs child (Downs Syndrome) that will need her attention, love and time during these very important years of development!!!!!!! Life changes when you have a special needs child-I know!! My son has severe Cerebral Palsy. I had dreams and plans and ambitions before I had my son. Now my life is dedicated to helping him develop as well as he can and become the best person he can be because that is my role as a mother. I chose to be a mother and raise my children, not let them be raised by nannies and others while I go and pursue Delusions of Grandeur!
Good luck to her son -and to her daughter who is having a child at 17! Who is going to be there to support her when she is going through such an adult happening at such a young age? Who is going to take care of that child? More nannies!!!! Where is mommy or grandma when they will need her?

Posted by: MAD MOM | September 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Sarah Palin was a hit last night... 3 points stands out today....

1. Lipstick is the difference between a pit bull and hockey moms....

2. The hauling away of the styrofoam greek columns after big rhetoric speeches leaves undeniable image of 3 ring Dem convention circus......

3. Her issues have more credibility due to her working and middle class background experience compared to opponents' empty words that do not match their elitist and wealthy lifestyles...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

What will it profit you to win an election,
and lose your own souls?

Posted by: SLM | September 4, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Just to clear something up, the Feingold Act is a great thing. But it hasn't even been debated yet. It was introduced early last year. Preparing for an election anyone? So even if he helped with that it means nothing except for a political ploy. The Obama website also lauds the passing of the Legislative Transparency and Accountability Act, which 90+ senators voted for. And Obama did not create the legislation or was a leading member of it. He does not have anything concrete that he has completed. He is just a part of noticeable acts that a large majority of Congress voted for and supported. This is not an example of leadership, this is politics. And not to deride community organizations, but there is more responsibility and power from a mayoral office. I have volunteered in organizations and I have had my fair share of things I was responsible for, but if I screwed up or made a bad decision it does not have the weight of a mayor. In this way Palin is more experienced than Obama.

Posted by: Obama's Record | September 4, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

you said " No economic solutions, nothing to say about new ideas. Doesn't she have anything to say about morgatges, health care or education? "

she did talk about these things briefly... this was her INTRODUCTION not a debate.

maybe you don't understand the full process ?

Posted by: to juan : | September 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Sarah Palin was a hit last night... 3 points stands out today....

1. Lipstick is the difference between a pit bull and hockey moms....

2. The hauling away of the styrofoam greek columns get hauled away after the rhetoric speeches......

3. Her issues have more credibility due to her working and middle class background experience compared to opponents' empty words that do not match their elitist and wealthy lifestyles...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Yes the speech was written for her as it is for OBAMA. No doubt he chickens at the thought os debates. Hillary was punching him all the way in primary debates...

Posted by: sunny | September 4, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Congrats Sarah Palin, Youll be a great Vice President., Or President for that matter. If you want to learn more about Sarah Palin or her Back Ground they have alot of Background Info, Pics, Videos, about Sarah and her Family. http://www.veeppeek.com The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Palin is only a distraction from the disaster that will be McCain as President.
Leave her alone and get to the real problems like the economy, the dismissal of the constitution and the economy, economy economy.

Posted by: mtobias | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Yes the speech was written for her as it is for OBAMA. No doubt he chickens at the thought os debates. Hillary was punching him all the way in primary debates...

Posted by: sunny | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

White folks done lost their mind and don't know what to do with themselves. The fear of a Black President got them trying every trick in the book to keep him outta office from starting conflicts in Georgia to nominating this inexperienced ill-tempered broad as VP. Why don't y'all just do what your redneck heart tells you to do and just knock Obama off RFK style cause that's the only way McCain will win.

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

It comes down to: Really, if Sarah Palin were running for President, separate from John McCain, would you vote for her?

Really?

Posted by: K Ballweg | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I liked her. What we need is less "slick Willy" types like Obama. the best politicians are the least experienced ones. Remember people Palin is VP not president and McCain has plenty of experience. She will not be making the biggest decisions.. I think they are the perfect match. We need a tough Mom in the White House.

Palin is like the movie "legally blonde"... Don't underestimate her or you'll lose.

Sorry Dems but you guys lose another election...

Posted by: PAL IN Alaska. | September 4, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Rah Rah Rah, I totally agree with the GOP, Ivy League educated politicans are so out of touch with working class people, that's why I'm glad George W. Bush didn't attend..wait...I mean,Go Jesus!!!

Posted by: Cato | September 4, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Mrs. Palin was very impressive with her speech and delivery. Her implication that the "Senators" lacked executive experience (like she really has any to speak of) covers Senator Mc Cain too? Haaaa! Oh well, she is currently getting some executive experience and a lot of political experience to help her run in the future.
Seems like the same old junk though. The Republicans are still trying to use fear to gather votes, Democrats still offer hope for their votes. Will either party really come through for the average American? We will see. After the last 8 years, the Republicans have lost most people's trust and rightfully so. I am tired of being bullied into fear votes by them. "W" lied his way into a war and rebuilding of Iraq. Don't think we can afford the political experiments and money-grabbing actions of the select few or the elite as they like to call the others in the country who are not Republicans.

They have to go a lot further to get my vote than parade this lady and her family in front of my TV screen.

Posted by: Stephen | September 4, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Anthony, you raise a great point. If the Repubs do not come out and actually address the issues but still win with a nasty, substanceless campaign, they will have no mandate to do anything. If the Dems control Congress, that means just 4 more years of bickering and blame game like the last 2.

That's right, 2. Repubs seem to forget that they controlled the Presidency and Congress for the first six Bush years (and the last 6 Clinton years), and the Senate remains evenly divided. You made this mess and then used the Bush veto threat (and Lieberman) to sustain it. If you want a "do something" Congress, just get out of the way and watch. Unless you can't stand the idea of Clinton-esque prosperity again.

It seems that you can't. You'd rather have a failed economy and failed foreign policy than see Democrats succeed in restoring America's greatness. Repubs remain for party first, country second. Palin - and your reaction to her substanceless bile - proves that.

Posted by: Nomo Stew | September 4, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

CaptBilly -- excellent post!

Posted by: MikeinPhilly | September 4, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Experience: How hard can it be to be mayor of a small town with $223 million in federal earmarks?

How hard can it be to govern a state with a $70 million surplus?

Executive experience doesn't mean choosing on what to spend your massive bank account. It means managing too many needs with too little money. Sarah Palin appears never to have done this.

Posted by: Matt Huggable | September 4, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Speaking as a real "hockey mom," who put two sons (now 17 and 21) through over a decade of junior hockey in New England, Palin's adoption of the term isn't selling me. It was said yesterday the GOP liked the "hockey mom" bit very much because of the confrontational imagery it connotes...a pitbull in lipstick, indeed. They also discussed "soccer mom" at one point, but apparently felt it was too soft and liberal (really--Google it).
--
It is interesting that Palin is being touted as a "hockey mom" - a few observations: (1) which of her children play hockey?; (2) her "guy" has been labeled as stay-at-home-dad since their son was born; (3) Isn't being a "hockey mom" just someone who has good organizational skills and multi-tasking skills? Just a few questions in my mind!

Posted by: smiley | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM

Posted by: Pea Soup | September 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin was great...The only thing she left out was how she was gonna solve world peace, poverty and cure the world of all diseases. It would have been nice to hear the Republicans today saying, "Wow, did you hear her last night? She said she would cure ALL diseases, isn't she great?"

Wake up people. Did anyone else notice they are trying to fix the broken "liberal" Washington? I mean who is that stupid? They have been running the whole show for 6 of the last 8 years.

Posted by: EPY | September 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Do any of you people understand that professional wrestling isn't real wrestling, because the wrestlers are told what to do and say in advance. In a similar vein, those of you who were so impressed with what Palin said need to understand she didn't write any of that speach, in fact some of it was written before they even knew who was going to be the VP candidate. On the other hand Obama does write his own speaches so when we hear him speaking we are hearing his words not those of his handlers.

Do these same people understand that if you wrote a speach for a bonified professional actor they could have had us crying, or laughing or jumping out of windows perhpas if they wanted to. It's great to be charismatic and certainly many politicians are, but the ideas are important too. It would seem from what Palin's speach writers had her say yesterday that they feel a divided America is a better idea than one united behind someone who isn't Republican.

You know it occured to me that McCain won't have to live in the America that Palin would be President of, but I have just enough respect left for McCain to believe that he wouldn't want to live in that America.

Posted by: captbilly | September 4, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Listen people:

You become what you hate...
Some people call it karma.
What goes around comes back around.
I was counseled as I grew up that
"the people you meet on your way up
are the same people you meet on your way down.
I call it the Law of the Harvest.
What goes around comes around.

Just know that the evil, nasty, vicious,
sarcastic attacks, represent you creating
your own savage world. Every evil word you speak will come back to haunt you.

"And what I say unto you,
I say unto all. Watch."


Posted by: Larnette | September 4, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Charlette | September 4, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Sarah won my vote last night with her powerful speech. She is exactly what we need in America to challenge the status quo do nothing congress led by Pelosi and Reed. She and McCain will stand up to the elite media the Aclu and the athesits. Thank you Lord for John and Sarah

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

People DO realize that this speech was *written for her*, right? All she did was deliver it...that doesn't make her a formidable candidate by any means. So she can read a speech from a teleprompter well. Big deal. The real test will be on her feet with Biden in a debate. I have no doubt she will come off as the mediocrity that she is.

Posted by: Scott | September 4, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin thinks that the Iraq war is a mission from god... This war is not "Gods Will" its big oil and arms merchants will. No wonder she thinks this way, here is a quote from the pastor of her church. This is the same kind of talk that convinces Muslim children to become suicide bombers. Hey Sara! Jesus does not advocate war.
"What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode.""

Posted by: Hmm. | September 4, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Why wasn't this news in her speech?

U.S. Economy: Services Index Advances; Jobless Claims Surge

By Timothy R. Homan and Bob Willis

Sept. 4 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. service industries grew in August as a measure of prices retreated the most in almost two years, while more Americans filed unemployment benefit claims, underscoring the deteriorating job market.

The Institute for Supply Management's index of non- manufacturing businesses, which make up almost 90 percent of the economy, rose to 50.6; readings above 50 signal growth. A government report showed first-time claims for jobless benefits jumped last week to 444,000, exceeding economists' forecasts.

Posted by: Tony | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Look, you men who are taken with Palin, don't get confused. Just because you want to bonk her doesn't mean you should vote for her. Think with you other head.

Posted by: Palin's boyfriend | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

sbolan
As I stated, before you start using these examples, please remember that only about 5% of abortions are as a result of health concerns, rape, incest, etc... There are over a million unborn babies killed every year in this country. That is staggering! I believe the God of the Bible who said He knit those children together in their mother's womb. BABIES ARE NOT A CHOICE!

Posted by: Dana | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Sarah's got more executive experience than McCain, Obama and Biden combined. Obviously, she should be running for President.

Posted by: MC | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Executive experience...

In my book highly overrated

To wit - 'W' had it and look where it got us...

Never again - No way - No how...

Posted by: thinkingdem | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Come on, people, when she spoke of Community Organizers she was referring to Obama who has done nothing but sit in the Senate taking notes. Hello! She is governing the State of Alaska which means she is fiscal, educational, environmental and legal manager. She is also, may I say with pride, Commander in Chief of the State National Guard...doesn't sound like to experience to me. And to juggle a growing family to boot! So what if the daughter was holding the baby. I did it many times while growing up for my mom when she was busy as the oldest of seven children. Truly the Democrats are scared now where before they thought they were all that and then some with Obama running against soft spoken John McCain. Quit whining now that the chips are down and there may be a real contest!

Posted by: Linda Kenney | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

yes she brought energy and overall did a good job. sure she has a small town appeal that will pull in some voters. but did anyone else notice in the many many flashes of the crowd at the RNC that there was but a handful of non white people there? to me, if you are going to be the pick of the people, shouldnt you represent the people of this country including all of its diversity? despite what the racists and anti immigration folks think, our diversity is one of our biggest strengths and has been for much of our history. i know that my vote will go to the candidates that i think are in touch with not just their little slice of constituents but the entire country. the RNC, and actually Palin's speech, clearly show that the Republican party is not at all in touch with a large portion of our country. matter of fact, they didnt even try to fake it this time. that says it all.

Posted by: justsaying | September 4, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

First, to the spelling/grammar Nazis out there - For the love of God, get a life. You are the most annoying and vacuous life forms on the planet.

Now, Palin has proven herself to be no more than a sick joke. We are not electing a hockey mom. We are looking for a person who could become the most powerful person in the world at a moments notice. This woman clearly does not cut it.

Obama does not have as much experience as I would like, but Biden does and I'm hoping he will be consulted.

Posted by: yellodog | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Rick's posting about alaska's refund checks is flatly wrong. the fed did not approve or pay for it, the residents of alsaka did when companies wanted to drill for oil. get your facts straight, before you try to mislead people.

Posted by: alaska born | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I guess the GOP is going for the "vote for the regular guy (gal)" tactic again.

How well has that worked out for the last 8 years.

Why are we afraid to elect someone with exceptional abilities? 'Cause they might try to pull something on us? Like ... invading other countries for no good reason ...

Posted by: BudG024 | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Craig, Palin's entire speech was an ad hominem attack. What planet are you on?

Posted by: Palin's secret lover | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

The economy AND the safety of the country are inseparable issues. You cannot focus solely on the economy because, no matter how strong your economy is, it won't mean much if you aren't safe in your own soil or and in a global setting.

Posted by: Gigi | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

The only ones I've heard that are afraid of Palin are Republicans like Noonan, Murphy, and Stein who think she's not experienced enough to be VP and will cost them the election. Ben Stein straight up said "she scares me."

http://mefeedia.com/entry/ben-stein-on-palin-she-scares-me/11213362/

Posted by: Jonathan | September 4, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

JOHN MCCAIN A TRUE AMERICAN TRAITOR PUTTING HIMSELF FIRST BEFORE HIS OWN COUNTRY.
ASK AMERICAN POWS THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT HAVING SHAME AND BE OFFENDED BY HIM WHILE KNOWING THAT HE WAS CRACKED AND
GAVE UP HIS COUNTRY TO COMMUNISTS PLAYING IN MOVIE AGAINST HIS OWN COUNTRY.
AMERICAN ENEMY MAY WANT THIS COWARD AND CROOK AS PRESIDENT BUT REAL AMERICAN HEROES NOT.
TRUE CHRISTIAN AND FAITHFUL PERSON WILL BE STUPID TO VOTE FOR MCCHEATER WHO HAS ADMITTED ADULTERY, SINCE VOTING FOR HIM AS SAME AS ENDORSING ADULTRY.

Posted by: Kevin | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

The Truth About Sarah Palin:

Dear friends,

So many people have asked me about what I know about Sarah Palin in the
last 2 days that I decided to write something up . . .

Basically, Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have only 2 things in
common: their gender and their good looks. :)

You have my permission to forward this to your friends/email contacts
with my name and email address attached, but please do not post it on
any websites, as there are too many kooks out there . . .

Thanks,
Anne

ABOUT SARAH PALIN

I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992.
Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a
first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her
father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a
first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more
City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the
residents of the city.

She is enormously popular; in every way she's like the most popular
girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and
won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because
she is a "babe".

It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She
kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents
for seven months.

She is "pro-life". She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby.
There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.

She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out
there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.

Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a
champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin's kind of job is highly
sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his
work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or
so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their
major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything
like that of native Alaskans.

Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.

She's smart.

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000
(at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about
670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running
this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been
pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had
given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a "fiscal conservative". During her 6
years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
(1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
weren't enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it
with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage
the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said
she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a
new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece
of property that the City didn't even have clear title to, that was
still in litigation 7 yrs later--to the delight of the lawyers
involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the
community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it
would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that
could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office
redecorated more than once.

These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus
in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will
make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she
proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she
recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while
she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's
surplus, borrow for needs.

She's not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas
or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren't generated by
her or her staff. Ideas weren't evaluated on their merits, but on the
basis of who proposed them.

While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's
attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Sarah complained about the "old boy's club" when she first ran for
Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys". Palin
fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as
Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people,
creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally
grateful and fiercely loyal--loyal to the point of abusing their power
to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the
case of pressuring the State's top cop (see below).

As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla's Police Chief because he "intimidated"
her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top
cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure
and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that
an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn't
fire her sister's ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation
for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to
replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded
for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew
her support.

She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in
help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town
introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She
abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn't
like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.

Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything
publicly about her.

When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got
the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one
of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no
background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great
job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the
high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the
structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this
Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party)
engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some
undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all
her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and
garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a
gutsy fighter against the "old boys' club" when she dramatically quit,
exposing this man's ethics violations (for which he was fined).

As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from
Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel
politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the "bridge to
nowhere" after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.

As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget
guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing
projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative
action restored most of these projects--which had been vetoed simply
because she was not aware of their importance--but with the unobservant
she had gained a reputation as "anti-pork".

She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party
leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated
them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a
fiscal conservative.

Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.
They call her "Sarah Barracuda" because of her unbridled ambition and
predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly
stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made
point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's
mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and
experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package
of legislation known as "AGIA" that forced the oil companies to march
to the beat of her drum.

Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to
global warming. She campaigned "as a private citizen" against a state
initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from
pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the
state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State's
lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior's decision to list polar
bears as threatened species.

McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a
heartbeat away from being President.

There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more
knowledgeable and experienced than she.

However, there's a lot of people who have underestimated her and are
regretting it.

CLAIM VS FACT
*"Hockey mom": true for a few years
*"PTA mom": true years ago when her first-born was in elementary
school, not since
*"NRA supporter": absolutely true
*social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill
that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships
(said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
*pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to
promote it.
*"Pro-life": mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby
BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life
legislation
*"Experienced": Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has
residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on
supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city
administrator to run town of about 5,000.
*political maverick: not at all
*gutsy: absolutely!
*open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at
explaining actions.
*has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
*"a Greenie": no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores
and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
*fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
*pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city
without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built
streets to early 20th century standards.
*pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on
residents
*pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city
government in Wasilla's history.
*pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union
doesn't make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim
that she is pro-labor/pro-union.

WHY AM I WRITING THIS?

First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed
voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting
programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne, last name redacted

Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local
government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.

Secondly, I've always operated in the belief that "Bad things happen
when good people stay silent". Few people know as much as I do because
few have gone to as many City Council meetings.

Third, I am just a housewife. I don't have a job she can bump me out
of. I don't belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no
fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will
cost me somehow in the future: that's life.

Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100
or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah's
attempt at censorship.

Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to
say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.

CAVEATS
I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in
spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor)
from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of
Wasilla, and I can't recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust
for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible
for a private person to get any info out of City Hall--they are
swamped. So I can't verify my numbers.

You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the
population of Wasilla, ranging from my "about 5,000", up to 9,000. The
day Palin's selection was announced a city official told me that the
current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was
5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to
2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90's.

Posted by: Anne79 | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Dana:

How apt that you are so lassez faire about the soldiers dying in Iraq - which was not their choice - but you're all up in arms about people having choices; who they choose to sleep with, or how they choose to not have children.

Choice=BAD
No Choice=Good
Sound about right to you?

Also, careful with that "moral fiber" barb about the Democrats. There are some republican closets that are no strangers to skeletons...
Isn't there something in Christian teachings that talks about throwing stones?

Posted by: Worried | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

The ad hominem attacks show that democrats fear Palin. And they should fear her. She will wipe the floor with Biden at the debate and do it with that sweet smile.

She is now a force to be reckoned!

As a conservative, who was planning on golfing on Nov 4th, I'll see you all at the Virginia polls!

Posted by: Craig | September 4, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

In response to WhatAJoke,

I understand your position, you obviously believe education is not a necessary or even a positive quality in a Pres/VP.

If thats the case sirs, if being competent isn't a necessary quality in the executive, then I rest my case because it really is useless arguing with you.

But I will argue anyway. Look, education is important just as good moral character and being "down to earth" is important.

Its like a good tailor. A good tailor has to be educated in the sense that he has learned the tools and skills of his trade. However, in order to make a good suit, the tailor must also know his customer.

I understand why being educated isn't the only requirement for pres, I cannot agree with the assesment that it is either uninmportant or a bad thing.

Its like saying you dont have to know how to drive to be a trucker.

And WTF is a pointy headed professor?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

OK, we get it. America is the greatest. America is the most powerful. Support the troops.

What is extremely disconcerting to me is that nearly 1/2 (43% according to the latest poll) the country still buys the pernicious dribble that the Repubs spoon feed them.

The facts prove otherwise, but the unthinking 43% still agree that tax cuts for the Rich will trickle-down to them somehow?

The unthinking 43% still think that American arrogance and ethnocentricity will win friends and influence peoples around the globe?

We've had 8 years of Bush along with 6 years of a Republican controlled Congress (2000-2006). And look at the shape we are in?

Budget-busting tax cuts coupled with Bush's foreign policy ineptitude have squandered large surpluses and created history-making deficits. If you think we are facing tough economic times now -- you will be stunned by the hardship we will experience with 4 more years of this course.

Sarah Palin is very pretty. But what, really, did she say last night?

Delivered with that beautiful smile, the shots she took at Obama were a mixed-bag of half-truths and misrepresentations (see: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check).

And lastly, how exactly does being a soccer (hockey) mom qualify one for high office?

Posted by: AdrickHenry | September 4, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Lies, distortion, insults, lies and WAR WAR WAR.

Gosh they love WAR.

Posted by: Bud | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Ellen C,

you do not know what you are talking about!Palin may be the gov. of alaska(the largest state) but what is the population?How much of the land does the federal government control?(65%)just to let you know.All of you people really need to do some research before you post comments. Ellen your genius is showing. you don't even know who she is,what she has done or what she belives. this woman has been famous for 2 weeks and you are sitting in her lap calling her mommy. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!

Posted by: whatsthe matter psl,FL | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I too am a Community Organizer - AND OBVIOUSLY SHE IS OUT OF TOUCH OF HOW WE TOUCH THE LIVES OF ORDINARY AMERICANS DAILY. That's how her speech played in our home! So, you know how I am feeling.

Posted by: latinovoter | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

George W. Bush has been such a terrible president. It's time to tell these people "Your fired." John McCain sucked up to Bush until the moment Bush was a political liability. I can hardly believe that Sarah Palin thinks he's a reformer. She seems smart in her speech, but maybe she's not as smart as that speech made her look. (John McCain probably wrote it.)

Posted by: Stephen | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

White folks done lost their mind and don't know what to do with themselves. The fear of a Black President got them trying every trick in the book to keep him outta office from starting conflicts in Georgia to nominating this inexperienced ill-tempered broad as VP. Why don't y'all just do what your heart tells you knock Obama off RFK style cause that's the only way McCain will win.

Posted by: DC | September 4, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Real Reason why McCain chose Palin : Sexist and condescending
PROOF:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apdFC-vh6Ng
Also his poor record of voting against equal pay for women and opposing Equal Roles for Women in the Military should be the business of American women voters.

Posted by: Sara | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I wonder, if Mrs. Palin was a man, would the words, "nasty" "smug" or "sarcastic" still be used? Or would the country employ the words, "self-confident", "eager" or use some other appropriate word that expresses that it's perfectly okay for a man to sound that way and not for a woman.

Posted by: L Parson | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I'm am extreme left-wing male who voted for Hillary, however I thought it was more important for me to put my party affiliation aside and tune into the speech. Palin definitely proved herself worthy as a potential VP last night. I still hope the democrats go to Washington, but if the McCain-Palin ticket wins on Nov 4th, I won't be dissappointed. Palin will bring energy policy reform to Washington, which is a topic she knows very intimately.

Posted by: Tim | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting that Palin is being touted as a "hockey mom" - a few observations: (1) which of her children play hockey?; (2) her "guy" has been labeled as stay-at-home-dad since their son was born; (3) Isn't being a "hockey mom" just someone who has good organizational skills and multi-tasking skills? Just a few questions in my mind!

Posted by: smiley | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

She's still a lightweight with a pretty face and no vision and no real connection to intelligent Hillary supporters. McCain should have chsen Condi Rice or Elizabeth Dole. I, as an Independent might have thought about voting fot him then. Palin made me decide to definately go for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Jeanne | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes answers aren't simple. Sometimes we have to think about them. I don't see the Republicans thinking well about complex issues. I see them blaming victoms, and going for the quick short term solutions.

Posted by: sbolan | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Here is a person who read a canned speech well and has not had to answer yet a single question about her positions on - or even knowledge about - the key issues of this election, and people are already electing her? I realize the Repubs cutely shortened this race from a marathon to a mile, but there's still a huge difference between a pretty start and having the substance for the race. I am not saying she does not have it, though if she did you would think there would be SOME record. We simply do not know. At all. Other than that apparently God sent the troops to Iraq. Must be. It still makes no human sense.

Posted by: Nomo Stew | September 4, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

What many fail to realize is that the speech she read was written by George Bush's sppech writer, not herself. She can read english. Congrats.

Speeches, from both sides are always empty and are meant to inspire the heart and not inform the mind. Peronally, I think she was the perfect choice for the Republican side given that she is the counterpoint to Obama's "inspire the country" tactic. It gives them the best chance to get elected because they sit so flimsily on the issues.

I have problems with some of Obamas policies and ideas as I do with the Republican side, however, as both sides will surely make mistakes, my vote has to go to the side of the one whose style of thinking, shall we say, is the one with which I most agree. Most importantly, the Republican stance is that we have to protect American interests. Even if it means taking over another country, threatening them or whatever it takes. Our American interests extend only to our borders. It is a mistake to believe that you can or even need to control the world because you THINK this event might happen in the future. Deliver weapons to one of our enemy so they will keep even with another of our enemies, taking over a country to even out power and oil control is not an ethically acceptable or even possible way of insuring our countries safety. We have the right to build nukes, so should everyone else. Deterence has always worked in the past. Iran will not toss a nuke our way, they know if they did it once, they would cease to exist. Bring our troops home and defend our borders only. Leave the world alone. We will be ok. we always have been. Lets stop being toeh worlds police. They hate us for it and we are , or should be above that. Obama believes we need to up our behavior, Palin and McCain believe we are doing God's will to start wars. Unreal. What an importnat election this is. I only hope Obama wins.

Posted by: Michael | September 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Captainron, you are delusional.

Posted by: Barbara Bush | September 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Listen people:

You become what you hate...
Some people call it karma.
What goes around comes back around.
I was counseled as I grew up that
"the people you meet on your way up
are the same people you meet on your way down.
I call it the Law of the Harvest.
What goes around comes around.

Just know that the evil, nasty, vicious,
sarcastic attacks, represent you creating
your own savage world. Every evil word you speak will come back to haunt you.

"And what I say unto you,
I say unto you all. Watch."

Posted by: Larnette | September 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Following eight years of Bush, Republicans have their bar set so low they'd nominate a chimpanzee if it was wearing a Prolife tee-shirt.

Posted by: Ben | September 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

The personal Palin story is overshadowing a much more significant piece of news for evangelicals:
"We learned last week that John McCain really wanted to choose his very good friend, Joe Lieberman, for VP but caved into pressure from the religious right. McCain will save his Lieberman pick for the Supreme Court — sorry evangelicals but you’ll have no leverage on Maverick McCain by then. Your Vice President will have no power in the process and a Democratic majority will happily confirm pro-choice Lieberman to the Supreme Court!”
Please understand the debate about abortion is essentially over. It seemed as though it may have been getting clearer to some during Lieberman's address at the convention.

Posted by: Gwen58 | September 4, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

It amazes me how some of us keep raving about "how great Palin was last night" and blah blah blah. You know, I kinda failed to notice when she actually said something constructive or provided a specifically detailed map of what she, or McCain for that matter, plan on doing for America. She was so busy bashing the Dems and covering her own butt (whether about the experience issue or her daughter) to even get to the important stuff. I wouldn't hail her too much yet because she didn't even write the speech! Let's see how well she can hold up in the debates, when she has to think of something herself. My vote's going to Obama/Biden hands down.

Posted by: justwondering | September 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Dana -- "I can not support a party that has lost their moral fiber" -- you have described the Republican party correctly.

Posted by: One of Giuliani's 3 wives | September 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

A negative speech to be sure but any speech that can shut Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews up gets a thumbs up. Obama and the dems could have avoided what's come by picking Hillary Clinton but because he is another of those dems that needs to like people he screwed up royally and we may all have to pay in November.

Posted by: jwalker | September 4, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

In response to Worried..."Sorry, why are we there? Still looking for the WMDs?"

Uh...didn't you hear that we found WMDs? Not to mention the fact that somehow, amidst all Bush's incompetency and mistakes, he's kept this country safe from terrorism since the September 11th attacks! But you go ahead and keep listening to the poison from the left wing, uh humm, mainstream media! It's no secret which side of the line they are on.

Posted by: Captainron | September 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Liberals aren't trying to kill babies. They are trying to give women a choice. Very few women make the choice to get an abortion. But, there are times when its a crucial choice.

A friend of mine almost died because the child inside her, which would have died soon after birth, was killing her via an unhealthy placenta. Most doctors in the state have been issued with death threats--by the 'peaceful' Christian right. She has a family and another young child. Do you think she should have died for the Republican agenda? Sara Palin is more of this, and she seems to drum up a peculiar violence in people lately. Think about this, do you want innocent people to start dying for these ideals?

Posted by: sbolan | September 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who would leave a 4-month old infant in the arms of another child that young, for that long, is irresponsible.

Posted by: mike | September 4, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

when she used basic human rights as a punchline I was glad she is pro-gun.
at least she is giving us a fighting chance.
/sarcasm
how can she get cheers for that?

are geneva, the hague, and the UN watching? do they care? are they COMPLICIT?

Posted by: hello? | September 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin needs to stay on the middle- American platform. She needs to PROVE to the people (ones that should be in control)that she represents them and will work for them.
Show her ups and downs. Show the people she is the "common man" and is willing to make corrections "not change" to OUR Country.

Posted by: gman | September 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

I am excited to hear more from this lady! And while the economy and the war and healthcare are all important, they can't compare to the issues of abortion and same sex marriage that our country is facing today. The media loves to give the total number of soldiers killed in Iraq every time another one falls. And I am okay with that, but I wish we gave the same media attention to the number of babies that are aborted daily in this nation. By the way, it would take only a day or two for those numbers to surpass the total number killed to date in the Iraqi war. I can not support a party that has lost their moral fiber to the point that babies will not be protected. And before anyone wants to talk about rape, incest, dangerous pregnancies, and such, please remember that those account for only about 5 percent of all abortions in this country. As long as the democratic party continues to support a woman's right to choose and same sex marriage, they will NEVER get a vote from me! I pray God's blessings on our nation. It is only by His good grace and mercy that we are able to stand!

Posted by: Dana | September 4, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jake your response was predictable and just as predictable we liberal Americans, just as under FDR, a great Democrat, destroyed the Nazi's , we the liberals are going to destroy Nazi's like you in America again. If you're advanced enough to read and spell, try looking at the polls... you were losing, you're still a Nazi loser and will always be a Nazi (Republican) loser.

Posted by: Zack Centre | September 4, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Rana, you're an idiot. Use your head (in a way you haven't used it yet).

Posted by: No Brainer | September 4, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought. Everyone is so taken with this precious speech. She didn't write it.

Posted by: Bob | September 4, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Um...right back at you.

Read any international editorials on Palin lately? They're pretty interesting.
--
--


Dearest Pea Soup -


You're obviously not understanding the concept.

Posted by: PalinSupporter | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM

Posted by: Pea Soup | September 4, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Jhonny, the dems don't need better candidates, just more intelligent voters.

Posted by: Obama Supporter | September 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Oh the internet says it! So it MUST be TRUE!

Posted by: UR Pathetic | September 4, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Jake D.:

One: It's MUSLIM. And he's not. Sorry.
Two: Keep drinking the kool-aid.
--
--
Not in this great christian nation.

We will not have a moslem in the white house.


Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 12:45 PM

Posted by: Pea Soup | September 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

You gullible folks can "trump up" Sarah Palin's "experience" all you want. Anyone with a brain obviously recognizes she is completely unqualified to go near the White House.

Posted by: Sarah Palin's secret lover | September 4, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

This is a woman who doesn't believe in Darwin, folks, who believes in taking away women's right to an abortion even in cases of rape. Her daughter should have the right to make a decision on her baby, but our daughters should not. Should she be in power, she'd deny our daughters that right. Don't be fooled by her pretty little face, folks, she's a right wing extremist and that's why she's been carefully selected. She's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Great speech, poor choice for leadership. Women, you have no idea how poor a choice she'd be. She's like no hockey mom I want for my friend! Read about her views before you make your choice-this is a very dangerous lady and a terrible choice for our country.

Posted by: Beth | September 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

No one was saying anything bad about a community organizer. Pointing out that community organizing is not a preparation for becoming a CEO of the most powerful country in the world is not saying that community orgainzers are not important for what they do. And no one was trash talking the democrats, unless you call stating the facts trash talking. Pointing out O's resume is not trash talking. If he isn't comfortable with his resume he should work on building it a little before applying for a job that is way out of his league!
And you O lovers can keep your dream of retreating--that is, if you really think that showing the world we will cower in the face of a challenge will prevent more attacks.

And lets face it, the only reason O is where he is in this election, is due to the media and celebrities (why is O in every tabloid that I see, oh look O was also vacationing in HI on the same page as several other celebs, what a surprise!) Without the media on his side America would not have considered such an inexperienced candidate. But enough said, I think we will see who is really qualified after the debates. If O could not handle debating with Hillary, wait till he deals with JSM.

Posted by: Actuallywatched08 | September 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Well, Jake D, we can change our moniker for 'merica from "Homeland" to "Fatherland" if you have your way...

You really think there's a place for Hitler here... No surprise, but I wonder what the Founding Fathers would think about you and your 'tude... KKK, neo-con, right wing republican, neo-nazi... Aren't you lucky to live in a country where people can speak their minds...? And yet you are so ready to silence others with your "ultimate solution"...

Makes me wish there was a simplistic heaven and hell... I'd shoplift a candy bar just to watch you burn...

Posted by: c earl jr | September 4, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

I voted for Bush 8 years ago. Why?
Because he was a better choice then Gore.

I voted for Bush 4 years ago. Why?
Because he was a better choice then Kerry.

I will vote for McCain in Nov. Why?
Because he is a better choice then Obama.

Democrats- find a real candidate and you might just get my vote. I am tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils.

Posted by: Jhonny | September 4, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Vic, people aren't going to vote Republican just because Sarah is a b-i-t-c-h.

Posted by: Actual father of Bristol's baby | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Dearest Pea Soup -


You're obviously not understanding the concept.

Posted by: PalinSupporter | September 4, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Dear well-spoken Ellen C.: You're a perfect little sheep. Keep believing! The Republicans are counting on you.

Did you know--or care--that Cindy McCain wore $300,000 worth of clothes and jewelry Tuesday night?

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/09/cindy-mccains-300000-outfit.html

Really sends a message to everyone that's lost their jobs and houses this year, don't you think?

And John can't remember how many properties they own?

Yeah, this is the party for your "Small Town America," for sure.

They're gigging all of you, yet you buy it again and again.
---
---
Last night Sarah made me very proud to not only be an American but to be a Republican. She is on the ticket as VP not president. When the Democrates say she has no experience I want to punch them. She is the GOVERNOR of the largest State (land mass wise) in the U.S. Obama...Senator that never has so much as written a bill. When they say she just read a speech written for her...Did Obama, Hillary or Biden write their own speeches last week? I highly doubt that. When people say...she didn't discuss health care or the housing crises last night..DUHH She was basically introducting herself to the public, not campaigning. I long for the debate with Biden. I think she is going to win hands down. I love her.

People STOP putting down Small Town America. They are the foundation of this nation.

The Dems don't know when to shut up and that will be their downfall.

Posted by: Ellen C | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM

Posted by: Pea Soup | September 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

All we truely have is a inexperienced
freshman or a old time "maverick" professor.

WE need to pick the "lesser to two evils"

NO, I am not picking Ron Paul

Posted by: gman | September 4, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

We are a divided nation in more ways than one. Sara Palin is someone we small town, middle Americans can relate to. the large city elitist will demean her and us. But the reallity is, she, like us are survivors. WE are the people with the most independence. We are the people with the most hope. We are the people with the most to loose from socialism. City people have given into socialism long ago. Palin understands rural America and she will get their votes overwhelmingly.

Posted by: josh irving | September 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

When I was a child, I was a liberal. Now that I am a man I have cast off childish things...

Posted by: Rob | September 4, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

As a hard core Hispanic Conservative, I was blown away by Governor Palin's self introduction last night. Her perspective is one that comes from making hard decisions as a matter of course and not based upon some hipshot idea. I agree that she did not lay out the GOP platform but I wonder when the Liberals and their media are going to realize that the home mortgage mess is a result of people not taking it upon themselves to spend within their own means. they signed up for the payment so tough bananas. I also think that Health Care should be decided upon by the individual. If insurance is needed then provide it for you and your family. Welfare is the greatest scam in the world. I say that the Liberals should get in on reality. I am tired of going to get a job and having to take a Urine test when the welfare folks just show up and get their check. Enough from me.
I truly think that Governor Palin is "Game, Set, Match" for us this year.

Posted by: Major Parrott | September 4, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Zac Center - you're first, little crybaby! You must be a lib dem.

Obama yo mama.

Not in this great christian nation.

We will not have a moslem in the white house.

No way!

Sarah 08!

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

What I find scary is how both sides can make comments that often fit their side just as much as the other yet feel other side is bad and their side is good.

Both sides have one with lots of experience and one with little. Both conventions have similar vague 'hope', and criticalness of other side.

US is badly in debt. Currently Bush president but other 2 houses democrat. All three branches are good at spending more money, for bail outs, etc.

Posted by: David | September 4, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Back in high school, people were divided into cliques based on their popularity, economic class, ethnicity, athleticism, appearance, and studiousness.

Palin would have been the alpha female of the pack of good-looking, popular, athletic, working-class kids who regarded school mostly as a chore.

Posted by: Eben Spinoza | September 4, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Erik B.,
Do you know what taps into American optimism more than harsh sarcasm? Actual optimism.
Obama's platform is built on optimism and hope for the future, not anger and ill will.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

This slice of the Christian right sure seems pretty violent! What about the teachings of Jesus? Really, do you think Jesus would vote for Sarah Palin? I don't.

Posted by: sbolan | September 4, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

William, are you braindead?

Posted by: Life Support | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

To "Frank"... Wow, Obama attached his name to someone else's bill about limiting lobbyists in Washington D.C. and then he voted for it. I'm sorry, I'm completely wrong. Obama HAS written major legislation that has affected me, the American voter.

In case you missed it Frank, that's sarcasm.

Oh yeah, you left out the part where it took him 7 years to do it.

Try again.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Todd Palin as well as their son Track are both not republicans. Not only that Todd Palin was a member of a party that wanted Alaska to break away from the United States. Now I don't know how much vetting McCain did on Palin's family members. But if Sarah Palin's husband is trying to make Alaska a separate country, Putin will be specifically interested in him. Russia can claim that Alaska was once a part of the Soviet Union and they have a strategic interest in that region. So why would we want a veep whose husband is going to interface with separatist groups in Alaska?

Posted by: Kevin Miller | September 4, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

The lady convince me to vote for Mr. McCain, but if Mr.Obama wins, i shall have no regrets.

Posted by: Rana | September 4, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Pea Soup, that makes no sense. Do you think a rock fight will solve anything?

Posted by: sbolan | September 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Yo bible thumpers! Keep in mind that in US elections, "Christianity" is nothing but a political brand.

Posted by: Jesus of Nazareth | September 4, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Quote: The number 1 issue in America is a bloated budget and the current state of our economy. Starting a new Health care initiative will only exasperate the problem. For everyone that is bad at math out there let me give tell you a little secret. American is broke. The solution is less spending not more.

So that $600 billion a year we're spending on wars is all well spent? Sorry, why are we there? Still looking for the WMDs?
$1BN to Georgia says Cheney. Nice.
Spend spend spend.

Posted by: Worried | September 4, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

A very sad day for America when the GOP wants to elect a person less qualified than your town librarian or kindergarten teacher for VP.
Obama was attending Columbia and Harvard while Palin was on a runway and switching schools before finally attaining her BS degree in Journalism from Podunk, ID. I suppose Huckabee is waiting for her to appoint him to the Supreme Court. Why not? He has a degree from Ouachita Baptist University. Who needs an education? McCain, who almost flunked out of the Academy and Palin, a Jounralism graduate from a school, where nobody remembers her, is the GOP ticket. Why shouldn't we forget about law degrees for court appointments too? As long you think the our government should control our bedrooms and ban books we do not find Godly, we should only have ministers on our Supreme Court. Let's appoint Huckabee, Hagee, etc and really rally the base! To diversify... we could have Jesse Jackson or TD Jakes too! As Bush said the US Constiturion is just a Godda**** piece of paper. Throw it out and let the "Bible Justices" rule by the Bible. I suppose we could look to Iran or Saudi Arabia to help us structure our GOP Theocracy.
If she were not an outspoken Evangelical, would America be having this conversation?

Posted by: Jim | September 4, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Tru Grit and Jake D -- you two are living proof that there are uncommitted, certifiably insane people living among us.

Posted by: Sarah Palin's secret lover | September 4, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Not only did she deliver her speech flawlessly, but she obviously had fun doing it. This is a danger for the Obama campaign, because humor taps into American optimism which traditionally wins elections in this country.

Her success was in demolishing the arguments that she is incompetent or not qualified for the position. On the other hand, I felt her sniping at Obama was typical partisanship and not so convincing. We all know he is not John Kerry.

Posted by: Erik Boston | September 4, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

There are people here who want to kill me because I am liberal.

Wow.

Do these hicks know that American democracy was founded on the principles of, yes, Liberalism?

John Locke - Two Treatises of Government.

You ignorant "Amerikans" should first learn to read. And more than the bible.

Someone, please, wake me from this nightmare that looks like it just got 4 years longer.

Posted by: astonished | September 4, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I'd say Palin cast a whole lot of stones last night...some "Christian."
---
---
The democratic party thinks she has no experience, but who are they to cast the first stone?
Posted by: PalinSupporter | September 4, 2008 11:32 AM

Posted by: Pea Soup | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Democrats = higher taxes = bigger gov't = socialist = not the United States anymore

your current income - higher taxes = less money in your pocket

what else is there to question here?

Posted by: bleat | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Palin has the dems scared because she instantly did what the old crone warwagon Hilarious could not. Hopefully McInsane will croak before he (or Bushbaby) can start WWIII and Palin would be president.
The prospect of Obombya or McCrazy being president should scare you all silly. If it does not, you clearly are not paying attention.
Ron Paul had it right and you sheeple blew your chance to save the USA

Posted by: Mongo | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin came across as a very angry woman. Her biting sarcasm, her constantly pointing finger, her penchant for scrunching up her face and shaking her head "no" made me think she wants to dismember someone, not run a democratic country.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

The republicans love pointing out that "Alaska is close to Russia," but did they bother to think that Moscow is only 600 miles closer to Anchorage than is it to Chicago?

Kinda makes the whole thing seem rather silly.

Posted by: Eric | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I would vote for Sarah Palin to be President let alone VP. When compared to Hussein Obama it is zero contest. Here is a man that spent decades listening to Jeremiah Wright tell the congregation how much he hates America. America! For all our faults we still have the best country in the World.

The number 1 issue in America is a bloated budget and the current state of our economy. Starting a new Health care initiative will only exasperate the problem. For everyone that is bad at math out there let me give tell you a little secret. American is broke. The solution is less spending not more.

Posted by: William | September 4, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Everyone please read Jake D's comments on this blog/comments calling for "the final solution" and "extermination". Who is this Nazi in Republican clothing? I'm heartned to see Republicans vent their true feelings, I'm sure he must speak for many who are thrilled with the Palin nomination.

Posted by: Zack Centre | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

The question is, will she be the leader we need if she becomes President someday? She has many good qualities. But the war IS killing us as a nation financially. We cannot militarily save the world. Arm the subs and let those overseas know that if the attackers come from your country, you will pay. Drill. Add wind and solar. Get rid of gas guzzlers, which Republicans love. Oppose abortion if you want but you cannot make up someone else's mind, neither patient nor doctor. Palin is too far right for me, but she's a good Republican.

Posted by: Neil | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Did I hear right, that Sarah Palin said that we shouldn't worry too much about the rights of the terrorists?

I'm sorry, but that puts us on the _same level_ as them.

Posted by: Undecided | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

i think the election was won last night. If only Dems had Hillary for 08 that would have been close. Important lesson for Dems-- Do not belittle women.
No point in going after Sarah. You saw her fangs last night. You thought she was the usual type of republican women. Ha! Ha!

Now its landslide for
McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: vic | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

In response to Tom in California, wasn't it recently proven that we are NOT experiencing Global Warming, but in fact it's gotten cooler by a degree? Vote for Obama only if you're in favor of a destroyed economy as he will, and I quote from his nomination acceptance speech, close "...corporate loopholes and tax havens." Say hello to higher priced everything! Of course, there is that chance that he will change his mind though...he seems to be real good at that!

Palin has brought life back into the Republican party! She actually has experience and character. And what does Obama have? Well, according to Hillary Clinton, Obama "has a speech he gave". I can't wait for the debates!

Posted by: CaptainRon | September 4, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have made their bed, now they have to sleep in it. They have to put on a happy face and pretend Palin has White House qualifications. What choice do they have, admit they made a stupid mistake? Lots of stupid Americans were fooled into voting for George Bush a second time. But, even though there are millions of stupid, gullible Americans, they're aren't enough voters who are stupid AND out of touch with reality to get this makeshift ticket across the goal line and into the White House.

Posted by: Sarah Palin's boyfriend | September 4, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

In response to the liberal moron who wrote about Obama's 12 years as a professor in comparison to Sarah's undergraduate degree... that's not EXPERIENCE to be President. Maybe it would be more experience if he was running for the Chairman of the Poly Sci Department, but it doesn't float in a national election. No matter how hard you try to come up with an answer, Obama HAS NO REAL EXPERIENCE. In fact, experience as a professor in the liberal land of college would be the last place I'd reach to try and make a point. I'll take my state school undergraduate degree any day over a pointy headed college professor who thinks he can change the world.

Posted by: WhatAJoke | September 4, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Well in simple terms-Palin kicked the left mob in the groin and they still don't know what hit them.

Posted by: mike | September 4, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

What I noticed most about the speech was the part about the oil. Russia's control of the oil pipeline in the Caucuses, and Iran's control of oil etc.
Isn't the unease in the Caucuses about "protecting a sovereign nation"? Isn't the whole thing with Iran about their nuclear capabilities? At least that's what the right wing press is telling us.
Cheney's over in Georgia picking a fight with the Russians, but it's all about aggression by Russia, apparently. Obviously Palin knows that it's ALL about oil. Just as Afghanistan and Iraq are all about oil.
She either "oopsed" by telling everyone blatantly, or there is something that Fox News etc. are holding back from us.

Posted by: Worried | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

For those simple minded enough to buy that garbage that Obama has done nothing in his first term as a senator - - -

Obama Helped Pass The 2007 Ethics Reform Law, Which Curbed The Influence Of Lobbyists And Was Described As The “Most Sweeping Since Watergate.” In the first week of the 110th Congress, Obama joined with Senator Feingold to introduce a “Gold Standard” ethics package. Many of the Obama/Feingold bill’s most important provisions were included in the final ethics reform package passed by the Senate in late January: a full ban on gifts and meals from lobbyists including those paid by the firms that employ lobbyists; an end to subsidized travel on corporate jets; full disclosure of who’s sponsoring earmarks and for what purpose; additional restrictions to close the revolving door between public service and lobbying to ensure that public service isn’t all about lining up a high-paying lobbying job; and requiring lobbyists to disclose the contributions that they “bundle” - that is, collect or arrange - for members of Congress, candidates, and party committees. In January 2007, the Washington Post wrote in an editorial that “…Mr. Reid, along with Sens. Russell Feingold (D-Wis.) and Barack Obama (D-Ill.), deserves credit for assembling and passing this package.” In September 2007, the AP reported, “President Bush signed a bill Friday that will require lawmakers to disclose more about their efforts to fund pet projects and raise money from lobbyists, a measure that backers call the biggest ethics reform in decades…Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill. who had pushed for the bundling provisions and was one of four lawmakers who participated in a Democratic conference call to reporters said the measure marks “the most sweeping ethics reform since Watergate."

Posted by: Frank | September 4, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Reminds me of the Star Trek episode of the slow aliens who wanted to be strong but went about it the wrong way by kidnapping Geordy. With all the problems that the people of this country are going through the Republicans are spending too much time worrying about being strong and not enough trying to solve problems.

Posted by: Timus | September 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I was revolted by Palin's speach last night. It did nothing to shed light on her record or qualifications aside from her ability to behave like a "pitbull." Palin's speach was strident, mean spirited and mocking. I heard no substance from her but a lot of lies and right wing spin.

Posted by: Carlin | September 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm with JakeD. Lets all get machine guns, and go after these libs who are hijacking our media, denigrating our values and ruining this great Christian nation of ours.

Thanks be to God, and his Son Jesus Christ for Sarah. She will be the sword that smites the wicked.

You liberals better hide from us; because we're a coming, and there's nothing you can do about it!!

Ye HAW!

Posted by: Tru Grit | September 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

wow!

What a goood point!

Your opinion is useless.

Stop the ranting and get on with your lives.

Dumb assess

Posted by: wow | September 4, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

McCain: Hey Sarah, do you think we should invade Georgia tonight?

Palin: I don't know, Johnnie. What do you think we should do?

Posted by: hamishdad | September 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

What is the point of writing your opinion.

Opinions are like as-holes!

Everyone has one, and it stinks...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

If Palin's objective was to alienate any middle-class, suburban American voters, she did a wonderful job.

Posted by: T | September 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

So, you're saying not to try, or to think at all? Yes, because that always makes things so much better :?

Posted by: sbolan | September 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The more vitriol and hate I read about in comments and news articles the more I start to believe she's the one they really fear. Let's face it Hillary is history, Obama saw to that and McCain sealed her fate. If Obama wins it's the end of the line for Hillary. If McCain wins Palin may just be the first woman president. Obama could have wrapped it up by picking Hillary, but instead made sure the Clinton era was finished.

Posted by: KarenT | September 4, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Seriously

Are people that stupid that they arguu over the internet?

How stupid are you?

No one cares what you think.

Posted by: seriously | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Coming to the stage, give a loud Comedy Club welcome to Doug!
Doug, are you trying out your comedy material with your readers or are you inebriated? Fear? Ha ha ha!!! And to figure that last night was their best 'cause John "Ambien" McCain will sure put the nation to sleep like his friend Joe "Droopy" Lieberman. What a stale, angry, outdated party. Life's gonna be better with Obama-Biden.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I don't get it - entertaining speech, but what did people expect. when the dust settles and the onslaught of obama jokes aren't as funny, she's a small town mayor with a narrow mind and no place to lead a nation in today's global world.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

"Tom In California"... you live in California, what a surprise. Let me guess, about 3 blocks from Berkeley? 1). There probably will be a war with Iran, no matter who wins the election. If you knew anything about the real world and current events you'd know this. 2). Global "climate change" (remember, it used to be warming until recently it had to be changed by the liberals to explain temperature deviations in the opposite direction) has never been proven to be caused by humans. Where were all of the SUV's and factories hundreds of thousands of years ago when this happened? It's called a climate cycle... study some science and get a clue. 3). Ginsberg and Stevens retire from the Supreme Court? Great... now maybe judges who can think past their own personal opinions can help shape the judicial branch of government.

Tom, why not cut out the middle man and just move to a communist nation?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Chrissie T, I will never be able to understand how a fickle mind like yours works.

Posted by: Connie B | September 4, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

What is the point of writing your opinion. Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.

Posted by: burt | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

We have sincere problems in our country to be solved and her speech had no substance on the issues. I am a woman and a mother and there is no way I would risk my pregnant daughters pride and feelings to parade her pregnancy nationwide for my own career. It is very sad. She keeps having children with one that needs special needs yet she is not home with them. Now there are rumors that she had an affair with her husbands business partner. Even if that is to be debated, she has problems in her own home and until she cleans up her own home, she can't make decisions that would affect my home.

Posted by: P. Harris | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

She just wants to win cause it's cool. She don't care about any of us, it's all about her and what it makes her resume sound like. Lies and deceit, corruption and power is all she is. OBAMA for the landslide win!

Posted by: Bob Freeburg | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Hey Dumbycrats, not many of you responded to the article above. Following directions may be above your paygrade, so I hope Obama will change to education standards, make all your children speak Spanish, and turn the country over to whale-washing, tree-licking, war-surrendering, nanny-state government, so you'll be safe.
Good article.

Posted by: Joe | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Amazing for those folks who derided Obama as a one-speech candidate to flip around and decide they will vote for a candidate who revealed nothing about her grasp of economic or foreign policy issues. Press conferences, interviews, debates will reveal whether she still believes that Bush's Iraq war is "God's plan" and to explain her big lie last night about her position on the "Bridge to Nowhere" and many other issues.

Posted by: Eugene | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse


OH YAH!

Well I'll show them

With my USELESS OPINION!

Stop wasting time.

You won't change anyones mind!

Posted by: Oh YAH | September 4, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Just wait until she has to answer real questions. Any idiot can read a tele-prompter. She didn't evern write her own hate-filled speech. She's a looney bin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

She compared her political experience to Obama's work as community organizer; maybe she could've at least compared her experience as mayor to Obama's 12 year tenure as a professor of constitutional law.

Palin attended undergraduate school at the University of Idaho and got herself a Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism with a MINOR in political science. My advice would be for her to actually go to Grad school and get a real degree before talking experience to Obama.

Obama got his undergrad degree at Columbia University and majored in political science and International relations. He later went to grad school at Harvard Law where he graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) with honors. Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years.

I even have a bachelor of arts in political science and philosophy, HAHAHAHAHA, what a JOKE...

Even the most backwards individual should admit that there is a world of difference in the knowledge of an undergrad with a minor in political science, and a Professor of Constitutional Law who even in undergraduate school had more of a concentration in politics.

Please go look these people's backgrounds up.

The extent of misinformation at the RNC was incredible, even by republican's own standards.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe that anyone would think that Palin would be able to run this country when she needs to. This is not about politics this is about our country.

A soccer mom for the outback with a BA in Journalism just can't do it.

Are you kidding, to sad to laugh

Posted by: Jon | September 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

What is the point of writing your opinion. Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.
Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind.

You can't make sense of something huge with two or three probably invalid points

Posted by: BillBO Baggins | September 4, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin is willing to destroy natural habitat that cannot be replaced once its gone. She seems unwilling to think about other ways to build jobs and improve our economy. We need to think beyond oil, and fast. Hers is a short term solution. I'm afraid of the repercussions in a few years. By then, it will be too late to put Alaska's natural resources back. Polar bears may well be extinct. How terribly terribly sad for our children.

Killing the people of Iraq has not changed this. There is not enough oil. There are too many people. These are plain facts. We need to change the way we think about things. We need to think about things, we all have the capacity. Contrary to what the Republicans say, real people can think things through!

Posted by: sbolan | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

With all the trumpeting by the GOP about Obama's lack of "executive experience", have they looked into the fact that McCain has exactly the same amount as does Obama? Does it matter to them that Abraham Lincoln was a 1 term congressman with only a law career going for him in the experience department? This election comes down to vision, something the GOP is lacking...

Posted by: TexLuigi | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

For Paige and Emili -- Sarah's getting in the gutter seems to have all of you gutter dwellers coming out in droves. You must be proud of yourself.

Posted by: Grandmother of 22 grandchildren | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Republican woman, stay away from me. Republican woman, mama let me be. Don’t come hangin’ around my door. I don’t wanna see your face no more. I got more important things to do. Than spend my time growin’ old with you. I don’t need your war machines. I don’t need your beauty queens. Northern lights can hypnotize. Sparkle someone else’s eyes. Goodbye, Republican woman. Goodbye, Republican chick. Goodbye, Republican broad ... (Adapted from The Guess Who's American Woman)

Posted by: hamishdad | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

What is the point of writing your opinion. Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.
Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind.

You have no point!

Posted by: Schmuck | September 4, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

What is the point of writing your opinion. Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.
Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind!

You are only further convincing yourself that you are and idiot.

Posted by: Goof Offs | September 4, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

The bottom line is this: if you were leaning towards McCain/Palin, you're probably relieved that she didn't make a fool out of herself last night and cheered by the attacks on Obama's record.

If you were leaning the other way, you probably found another 10 reasons not to vote for McCain/Palin.

If you don't address the most significant issue in the election--the economy--how can you possibly win?

As a slightly left-leaning centrist, I found the tone and content of Palin's speech insulting. If Biden or Obama gave that talk, I'd feel the same way--but they didn't. Also, the McCain campaign against the media is the pinnacle of hypocrisy. I can't believe I voted for this guy in the 2000 primaries. Who replaced the Mccain of old with this grim-faced, talking point-spewing robot?

Posted by: micron26 | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

She's perfect--a nasty, hairtossing cheerleader with a Bible, a gun, and the instincts of a Mafia capo.

Posted by: Archer | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

McCain's choice of Palin proves him incompetent and reckless. McCain had only met with Palin one time before he chose her to be his running mate. His staff had not vetted her. And yet he chose her to be a 72-76 year old heartbeat away from the presidency of the United States of America. McCain's poor judgement mirrors that of Bush's. Palin (and all republicans), continue to give big oil ownership of America, your wallet, and eventually your mortgage. Not to mention the fact that conservative republicans despise the Constitution of the United States, (not that Americans really care about small details like that - their main concern is being able to afford milk right now.)

Posted by: Frank | September 4, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

May we all please calm down and take a step back for a moment, perhaps catch our breath after a crazy week? It's obvious the selection of this woman has injected life into the Republicans, she is confident, youthful, and aggressive. Her comments last night were great for firing up a demoralized base. However, her injection of aggressive comments on the character/experience of Obama and her derision of democrats fired up another important demographic...democrats. Previously the dem's couldn't attack McCain because of his record as a war hero, you better believe Palin just gave them 3 months worth of ammunition. I believe a radical choice for VP was McCain's only chance of winning, and at the same time it might be his downfall. Only time will tell and I look forward to an exciting fall of debates and campaigning.

Posted by: Chris | September 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

George W. Bush, a conservative Republican, has been president for nearly eight years. And until last year, Republicans controlled Congress. Only since January 2007 have Democrats have been in charge of the House and Senate.

Posted by: Can't blame Dems! | September 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

It shouldn’t be a surprise or a shook to anyone; this is what you expect from the same aged politics.

Senator Hilary Clinton didn’t come to Washington with Miss Congeniality on her resume; she came with proposals and an agenda. She didn’t take the elevator to the penthouse to crack the “glass ceiling”, she climbed each step with determination, pain, and a commitment to change American possibilities. She didn’t get a pat on the back promotion to the top, she got there in a fair fight that at times was grueling and difficult…and you know what, I think she kinda wanted it that way. She will not make it into our history books as the first, fast track, overnight, success into the finish, but she carved a remarkable legacy from the starting line to the last stretch. And for that, I will always be proud of her achievements.

Senator Mcain still does not “get it”. This is not a popularity contest for homecoming king and queen. This is a Presidential Election for the United States of America . This isn’t about winning the election; it is about changing the future of a Powerful Nation.

Posted by: J | September 4, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Both McCain and Palin emphasise increased drilling for oil without any provision to prevent that oil from being wasted on throwaway plastic packaging and single passenger SUVs. This is the same kind of philosophy that caused the United States to run out of oil before the rest of the world. It's not a solution, it's a continuation of the problem.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I woke up yesterday with no idea who I would vote for - or if I would vote. Obama appealed to me for his 'star' quality and youth and I was at least thinking a change of any kind might be what we need. I was also immensely moved to see the potential of a black president in my lifetime.
Then came Sarah Palin. A new star. And if McCain can actually return to the kind of maverick she described last night - he'll have my vote. I'd vote for a man smart enough to hire Sarah!

Posted by: chrissie t | September 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

She’s got moxie, alright (spelled in her case, mocks-y), but zingers and oozing saracasm seems to be all the star ‘qualities’ the ‘pubs can crow about. Hard to believe this campaign has now come to the point where the Democrats have re-claimed the right to ask “where’s the beef”? But they’re looking a lot more presidential this morning.

Posted by: sean o | September 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a religious lunatic. For some reason, in the United States people elect religious lunatics to political office. Then the people are puzzled about why disaster ensues. Come on now, people! Think it through before you vote this time!

McCain and Palin's term of office, if you elect them: (1) a third war (with Iran), to add to the two disastrous wars we're already mired in. (2) four more years of total inaction on global warming and climate change (Palin believes that climate change "is not caused by human activity"). (3) John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsberg retire from the Supreme Court to be replaced by two more Antonin Scalias -- kiss your remaining rights good-bye!


LOL, DISREGARD THAT, IS SUCK COCKS!!

Posted by: Tom in California | September 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

When Sarah is president, we are gonna exterminate every Lib in this great country. Do I hear the cries for a final liberal solution in America? Yes I do!

Hail Sarah!

Posted by: JakeD | September 4, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Jim | September 4, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

What is the point of writing your opinion. Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.
Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind!

Who are you writing too?

Posted by: God | September 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

The prospect of Palin as President, if McCain dies in office is positively terrifying. She lacks experience, both lack judgment, and both appear to be impulsive, mean spirited and uncaring about the best interests of the US and the world.

Posted by: Cedar | September 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

No substance in the woman speech , as an independent thanks for making up my mind I will vote for Obama

Posted by: j | September 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

What is the point of writing your opinion. Your thoughts will not change anyones mind.
Don't be an idiot!

Stop wasting time!

Your opinion means nothing!

It will not change anyones mind.

Who are you writing too?

Posted by: jesus | September 4, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

You can diffuse the real issues if you want by smearing a 17 year old but realize every time you do there is a girl somewhre in a similar situation who has an entire family that votes and will make you pay in November. This tact is making people see what true hypocrites you "open-minded" liberals are.

Besides trying to pull the same hatchet job on Sarah that you layed on Hillary, the incessant whining from the left is sooooooo predictable - 2000, 2004 and now in 2008 - makes me think the little hockey mom fit the moose antler right square in your *sses.

Got to absolutely love the analogy between "community organizer" and mayor. It does make you ponder - Exactly how big a budget does a "community organizer" manage? How many people are on the payroll of a "community organizer"? Do you have to punch a time clock or just hang out on the street comer when you're a "community organizer"? Is that what those guys are doing in the low income neighborhoods who hang out at the intersections? Hell, I thought they were all selling crack.

So we have Sarah Palin who has managed a city, a state, took on special interest, fought corruption AND raised a family. Can you please explain what Norealjobama has been doing with his Ivy League education besides cavorting with racists and communists and “organizing communities”?

Joe Biden saying someone delivered a speech without substance is like saying Pete Rose claims there gambling in baseball. What an imbecile!!! The only speech Biden ever delivered with substance was the one in which he was nailed for plagiarism.

To me, the only question that remains is how many times team Nojobama/Biden soiled their pants during her pasting of all things phony. Start brushing up on your “community organizer” skills Nojobama; it looks like you’ll be looking for work come November. “Work”- sorry, didn’t mean to offend any liberals out there.

Please Sarah, nail their scrawny asses for every woman who has ever been minimized – Hillary only being the latest and most visible.

Posted by: For Paige & Emili | September 4, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a religious lunatic. For some reason, in the United States people elect religious lunatics to political office. Then the people are puzzled about why disaster ensues. Come on now, people! Think it through before you vote this time!

McCain and Palin's term of office, if you elect them: (1) a third war (with Iran), to add to the two disastrous wars we're already mired in. (2) four more years of total inaction on global warming and climate change (Palin believes that climate change "is not caused by human activity"). (3) John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsberg retire from the Supreme Court to be replaced by two more Antonin Scalias -- kiss your remaining rights good-bye!

Posted by: Tom in California | September 4, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

Good speech and well-delivered. That being said, people aren't all that concerned with reform now --they're concerned with the economy.

All this just makes it harder for McCain to follow up. She raised the bar on him.

Posted by: Max Sewell | September 4, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

What you can say?? It was the same ole stuff from the GOP. We're patriots, you're not. We work, you don't. We are the party of god, you're not. We don't like terrorists, you do. We serve in the military, you don't.

Wanna see the REAL bridge to nowhere?

http://s418.photobucket.com/albums/pp269/spookyvid/?action=view¤t=BridgeToNowere.jpg

Posted by: Bill | September 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

In response to M2. Is that all you have to say? (Typical response when lacking arguments). I did not have time to check my grammar and typos.

I'm glad i was not born American because i would be ashamed about a country so divided with people so close minded with "Moyen-Age" mentalities and hated in the world.

US has the biggest debt, the biggest gab between poor and rich and a weak social security system and yet some republicans want to continue what Bush started. I guess they're not suffering enough.

What amazes me is Republican party lower the taxes which the Rich benefit the most and at the same time put the country in DEBT !!
I guess people don't understand what happened to housing market.

US has the most powerful army and yet they can't find bid ladden and get rid of the terrorists. They scare american people about countries having Nuclear power when the only country who ever used nuclear bombs on civilians (yes civilians) is: ?? USA.

So please, look at your history, things the US has done under "fascist party".
If you support your leaders to invest more money in the Army than education / and Health, don't come and cry when you realize how uneducated your future children and country is, when China, Russia and other emerging countries buy US Interests.

The Neo-conservatives don't like Obama because is colored. They don't want a colored President. I find it so hypocrite when most of the NBA and American Football stars are black.

Posted by: Reality | September 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin thinks that the Iraq war is a mission from god… This war is not “Gods Will” its big oil and arms merchants will. No wonder she thinks this way, here is a quote from the pastor of her church. This is the same kind of talk that convinces Muslim children to become suicide bombers. Hey Sara! Jesus does not advocate war.
“What you see in a terrorist — that’s called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what’s going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. … We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. … Jesus called us to die. You’re worried about getting hurt? He’s called us to die. Listen, you know we can’t even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. … I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say “war mode.”"

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 4, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

All you people who think Palin is hot stuff need to check your head. I bet these same people who are all over Palin now voted for Bush four years ago when they similarly swore by his genius and moral character at election time. Unfortunately, some people just don't learn their lessons.

Palin loves oil. She doesn't believe Humans influence global warming. She believes in teaching creationism in schools. She doesn't think Polar Bears deserve to be on the endangered species list. She is by no means a maverick, she is an opportunist.

She compared her political experience to Obama's work as community organizer; maybe she could've at least compared her experience as mayor to Obama's 12 year tenure as a professor of constitutional law.

Palin attended undergraduate school at the University of Idaho and got herself a Bachelor of Science degree in communications-journalism with a MINOR in political science. My advice would be for her to actually go to Grad school and get a real degree before talking experience to Obama.

Obama got his undergrad degree at Columbia University and majored in political science and International relations. He later went to grad school at Harvard Law where he graduated with a Juris Doctor (J.D.) with honors. Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years.

I even have a bachelor of arts in political science and philosophy, HAHAHAHAHA, what a JOKE...

Even the most backwards individual should admit that there is a world of difference in the knowledge of an undergrad with a minor in political science, and a Professor of Constitutional Law who even in undergraduate school had more of a concentration in politics.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

This bee-otch is totally out of control! She's nuts!

"Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin told ministry students at her former church that the United States sent troops to fight in the Iraq war on a "task that is from God."

In an address last June, the Republican vice presidential candidate also urged ministry students to pray for a plan to build a $30 billion natural gas pipeline in the state, calling it "God's will."

Posted by: Jim from Anchorage | September 4, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Palin's speech clearly made her a star at her convention, but it remains to be seen whether that is a good thing for her party's chances. In 1992 --under similar economic conditions-- the Republicans' "hate campaign" against Clinton failed because he was too skilled a politician; they may have underestimated Obama in that regard.

Posted by: rwclaw | September 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Now Palin will have to deal with troopergate and The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

What bothered me about the GOP speeches is not one of them mentioned one thing about how they will fix America. Not one word said about the economy, healthcare, education, nothing. It was all attacks on Obama because they are threatned by his impressive following and how he has energized Americans. When Palin panned Obama and said something about Obama "parting the sea...and healing the world", I was completely put off. Basically the GOP stands for nothing and will do nothing if the are in power again. With all the EXPERIENCE that the Republicans keep harping about, I don't hear them talking about anything that concerns America. The truth is NOTHING prepares you to be POTUS. Being a POW does not qualify you to be President, being a Senator does not qualify you, being a Mayor or a Govenor does not prepare you. It's more about who the person is. If the person has character and diplomacy and can be a leader and make the right decisions. That's more what makes a good President than how long they were a Govenor or Senator.

Posted by: Carol | September 4, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

This is in response to reality.


Simply put, please check your spelling and gramar before representing the democratic party, and bashing the republicans. Thank you.

Posted by: M2 | September 4, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Palin has no experience.. think you republicans.. nobody in politics knew her until about a few weeks ago.. Maybe 0.01% knew her, but that's not enough!!

Posted by: MyName | September 4, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Congrats Sarah Palin, Youll be a great Vice President., Or President for that matter. If you want to learn more about Sarah Palin or her Back Ground they have alot of Background Info, Pics, Videos, about Sarah and her Family. http://www.veeppeek.com The Next Big Scadal She will have to overcome will be her daughers, boyfriend. http://www.hotpres.com

Posted by: Pete | September 4, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

It is possible Republicans were lowkey on promises on the eve of John McCain's nomination because they know the country is broke and indebted to others to keep us afloat. What the Democrats promised is impossible without borrowing more and placing higher taxes on everyone.

While G W Bush has overspent,Republicans understand we must bring back fiscal responsibility to government. Any person who has credit card debt should be able to understand what the goverment faces and know it cannot be fixed by promises and more borrowing.

As an Independant I have voted for both parties in the past

Posted by: S. Lunn | September 4, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

To: All Liberal Cry Babies
Re: Your Being Upset
Fr: An Independent Unhappy With His Choices Too

Accept it. Your candidates are subpar. Yes, even more subpar than the Republicans now that Sarah Palin has been added to the Republican ticket. You made a HUGE mistake by thinking you could win this election by replacing Hillary Clinton (the first female to hope to win the presidency on a major ticket) with Barack Obama (the first African American to hope to win the presidency). Your manipulation and race pandering has backfired. Crying about how the Republicans will never give you the unnecessary social programs like national healthcare that will be the ruination of this great nation or "replace oil as an energy source" (this won't happen in the next 4 administrations no matter which party is in charge) won't change anything. Get over it. The reason your party will lose this next election is once again you have proven you don't know how to run a campaign let alone the country; and you are completely out of touch with the American people. Probably best to throw in the towel now and start planning for 2012.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Palin represented herself well last night. Some speak of what she didn't discuss, I like to think of what she did remind everyone of. How about the lack of experience in the democratic nominee? The democratic party thinks she has no experience, but who are they to cast the first stone? Personally I hope to never see Obama in office. I'm support McCain and Palin completely, and if I didn't i still wouldn't vote for someone who creates his own presidential seal, or who won't wear an American flag pin.

Posted by: PalinSupporter | September 4, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I like those who stated Palin had great oratory skills, but that that wasn't enough. This is the Gorilla on the back of Obama.

Posted by: Shane | September 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Ok Republicans, we understand your joy. Your party was falling apart and now you have a attractive woman as a vice president. But how hypocrite of you when Republicans have been criticizing Obama experience since day 1 and now they chose a VP with even less experience than him.

He worked in poor communities helping people. We worked as a Senator and passed few bills for I believe.
What has she done? Mayor then governor for 2 years? For Alaska, it might be largest state but i don't think we care about land at this time.
If i were governor i would start protecting alaska landscape.

I agree. Republicans have no plans. They criticize Obama because he can bring people together, he has a vision of the future.

Does Palin has a vision. Maybe but her visions scare me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H-btXPfhGs

This woman is a dictator.

And regarding family, yes we should not mix them with politics. But nor should she bring a few months old baby to a convention, not use her daughter as a political assets. And if she would follow her political belief, shouldn't the father be arrested?

And yes, i can't wait to see her with Biden, a man with decades of Senate experience, an icon.
Regarding McCain. Well is old. He is a veteran, sure for Vietnam a war the US lost.
But what has he done since? Agreed with Bush he has.

America needs someone with a vision who can unite people.

Sarah visions are PALE IN comparison Obama's.

Posted by: Reality | September 4, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Economic polices.. republicans have no plans, and Palin hasn't even talked about it!

Posted by: MyName | September 4, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

everytime I post a comment I see something ridiculous after it. J. Merchant or whatever- that's what the republicans told you at the convention. Obama actually spent a long time addressing the kind of things he wants to do. It's McCain who hasn't laid it out enough for people yet. I went to his website and there isn't much there. And none of it really tells why it would really be effective. Since you obviously didn't watch the democratic convention or Obamas speech, go to the website and look at what he wants to do.

Posted by: m | September 4, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

J. Merchant:

Like Palin's speech, your message lacks any substance. Most people who are voting for her are proud of her simple hockey mom background.

Most intelligent people are wondering if that's a good reason to nominate someone for VP. I didn't see any track record of deep thought or achievement. Unless you count being close to Russia as foreign policy expertise....

The GOP has found a VP candidate that will probably turn off all intelligent Americans, regardless of party.

Posted by: Rick | September 4, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

All I keep hearing from the Dem's is, What about Education, Health Care, and all of the other freebies the Democrat's seem to want the government to GIVE to people. I'll tell you this, if you want a bigger house, work harder and get a better job. If you want health care, that job will most likely come with benefits that you have to pay pennies on the dollar for. If you want a college education, do what I did, serve your country to earn a G.I. Bill and take out loans to pay for the rest. It is all about the price we have to pay first in order to be awarded these things. It is not governments responsibility to make us succeed but rather to allow us too.

Posted by: Dober | September 4, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

As an independent, white, Christian woman I have been really confused by the Rep Convention. I'm waiting to hear something about their platform and what they plan to do to improve our financial situation. If they don't end the war, how will we ever get out of debt and get our country back in shape?
As for Palin, she's spunky, but I didn't like the way she and others made fun of Obama, or community organizers. My church is very involved in community organizing, and when I work in the soup kitchen, it doesn't strike me as all that funny to see whole families with infants standing in line.

Posted by: mblake | September 4, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

As an Independent, I watched the RNC speeches and found them amusing and straight forward. Sarah Palin is, if nothing else, making history no matter who wins this election. The media went lower than ever attacking her family, her kids and extended family. So 'who' has the experience? J.S. McCain. Hilary said so & Bidden said so, so why is it not true now. Democrats are against women unless it's a Democratic woman, does hypocritical come to mind, being elected vice president. It was ok when they wanted Hilary. Ok, Democrats put up or shut up those sound bites we hear over and over again. I'm voting J.S. McCain for president and should he die while in office I welcome Sarah Palin with open arms to do the job she has accepted to do.

Posted by: Cho Dan | September 4, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

oh and in response to Jim's comment about attacking. Stating facts and giving proof and statistics is different from generalizations and deceptiveness. Obama said McCain is like Bush for many reasons. Obviously, he's a republican (thats just obvious, not when obama said when comparing). Obama said he voted with and agreed with Bush 90% of the time. But other numbers recently are putting it closer to 95%, actually.

That's just a straight fact.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

I am surprised by the Democrats response to Palin. They say "she is full of fluff and lies" but the simple fact is they are holding the fleece over their own eyes. I have not heard any real ideas coming from the Democratic campaign. They are only saying hope in the change that we will bring. The RNC still has another day left. That is probably when they will release their ideas as to how they will change this country. It is called a climax. Also Biden might want to go back to school. Palins speach very clearly aluded to the middle class of this country. He also might want to go back over some of his statistics because this country is still in a better place then where it was when GWB first took office. The unemployment rate is the lowest it has ever been in any other president's term. The GDP is up. There are markets that are struggling but that is because they followed very relaxed lending policies that gave money to people who could not afford it. Its time that the truth starts being told rather than this defeatist view that has destroyed the American's view and love for country.

Posted by: J. Merchant | September 4, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"Anyone with any oratory skills can provide a great speech -- Hitler was a great speaker. However, the presidency is not about speaking but about doing."

EXACTLY WHY I'M NOT VOTING FOR BARACK OBAMA... what has he EVER DONE? A one and a half term Senator who has never even penned a meaningful law let alone been a chief executive. Amazing how your comments about Sarah Palin can be pointed right back at your candidate who wants to not be the VP, but the President!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I didn't hear a single thing in her speech which actually echoed a positive vision for America.

Her concrete policy points centered around pandering to big Oil ('remove foreign dependence on oil' - why not all oil??).

The only reason her approval ratings are so high is that she sent all Alaskans 1200 dollar checks, which the Federal government (eg, you and me) were responsible for.

If this ticket wins, you'll see two things:

1) Ridicule from the rest of the world at an America which teeters on the edge of Idiocracy.

2) A large flow of intelligent people out of this country.

Posted by: Rick | September 4, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight. It is OK for Joe Biden to attack Republicans, to try to make McCain out to be the next George Bush. That is OK for Dems to attack Repubs, but it is not OK for Repubs to do the same?

I watched Biden's speech & I watched Palin's. I don't think she did anything more than what the Dem's did.

I watched most of the Dem convention, most of it was attacks against Repubs. Not sure how Dems are supposed to unify everyone around Obama when they the attack the very people they want to join them.

I thought her speech was pretty good, impressive, but it was no worse of an attack than what Biden did in his speech.

Posted by: Jim | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Sara Palin’s Speech: The Good & Bad From a Business Person Perspective.

Good: Coachable, very well read, brilliantly scripted, I’d say she did a fantastic job of Rallying the Republican Crowd up. Personal touch, I loved the feisty hockey Moms analogy, a lot of women can relate to that, I can relate to her. Adorable kids. No doubt she’s a great mom. Agrees with a lot of with the Obama Biden
team said about Washington.

Bad: Confrontational, offers sarcasm instead of solutions. Makes it clear,
She’s not an approachable person, might not be a team player in any corporation.
Works better as an individual if placed in the job pool. Perfect in running a State like Alaska, not a large nation. Shows good Administrative skills. I say let her get more seasoned, build up her chops in the Senate a few short years from now and I’d vote for her into a higher position. Not Executive material.

If this where a job bid and two teams came to me to offer their services and goods.
Here’s the choice:

Team One: Is Innovative, fresh, get’s me fired up and inspired and motivated. Shows me possibilities and change. Lays out clearly their game plan, instead of harping about their competitors.

Team Two: Confrontational, offers me sarcasm instead of solutions. Can relate to the seniors and retirement pool but is out of touch. Uses fear of loss sales approach. Is defensive. Shows me they’re agreement with their competitors about the current situation.

I’d hire the Obama and Biden Team.

Posted by: Nina | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

If you can't spell the word 'speech' correctly, especially when the correct spelling is all over the news and in the story that the particular person is commenting on, I just can't take them seriously at all. I'm sorry but come on... And this isn't just because of a few people, I've noticed it A LOT.

If someone is misspelling it, they probably have barely been actually paying much attention to all of this, or even to the article that their commenting on. And so most likely, that means that they're just repeating things they heard others say,and not forming their own opinion based on an educated/thoughtful view.

Posted by: missy | September 4, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

O K now she has charmed the folks at the
convention. But what about those independent and undecided voters. These are the people who can make or break the election and remember the ultimate objective is winning the election. Now go convince those voters.

Posted by: T N T | September 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Palin has no experience, no network, no strong connections, most of the senators and congressmen didn't even know her until a few weeks ago. How the hell in the world will she be able to get support of these people, who know their game, to implement any significant policies, like the economic policies that the current administration has failed to fix. Palin may be a very good person, but don't think she is fit to run a country if, say, god forbid, something happens to McCain. I think Obama brings much more experience and understanding to the table that this terms' republican nominees.

Posted by: MyName | September 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans are more excited about their VP than their P. No wonder, its more of the same.

Thanks GOP, but no thanks. We dont need a Cheney in a skirt.

Posted by: srikanth | September 4, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Anyone with any oratory skills can provide a great speech -- Hitler was a great speaker. However, the presidency is not about speaking but about doing. She does NOT have the experience. She has ties to the same crew running DC now -- the oil industry. Her extremist positions on abortion, abstinence only education, creationism over science, do NOT work in mainstream America or in the modern world. As for demeaning community work -- excuse me, but as Christian woman who tries to do her best to help her community, I find it highly insulting to Christians who put themselves on the line to try to help those in need. But, I guess Palin is so focused on herself and her narrow-minded, self-righteousness that she cannot see beyond her own tiny, tiny world.
Sorry, Palin, you are NOT suitable for the vice presidency no matter what you, McCain, or the GOP say.

Posted by: abby0802 | September 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

After watching the Democratic convention then part of the Republican convention being an independant voter after Sarah Palin's speech last night the Republican ticket has my vote.

Posted by: Jersey Bob | September 4, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

I thought her speech confirmed what the Republicans have offered us to date. All fluff, fire, and nothing. Absolutely no credible handle on any substantive issue. The R party continues to not challenge its constituents, and therefore, chooses candidates who continue to object to the ground reality, obscure reality, or just plain avoid real issues. Bravo Sarah Palin, you are indeed a fantastic R candidate.

Posted by: Concerned | September 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Democrats, be very scared of this woman, because you should.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

The maverick has left the building.

McCain chose someone that the extremists of the party recommended. Yet, he's still saying the party is interested in reaching across the aisle. Huh?

Palin's speech was basically "Democrats bad, Republicans good."

Judging from what I saw last night, you'd think there'd been a Democratic president for the last eight years. Everything is the fault of some supposed "liberals" who are ruling the country.

Message to Republicans: You've been in charge the past 8 years. You have a conservative Supreme Court and you had a conservative Congress until 2 years ago.

I guess "the party of personal responsibility" is only a slogan you used to use. It's election time, go back to blaming everyone else. Way to put the country first, John.

Posted by: Dave | September 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

So Cheneyesque, lying to the American people on her first day out (bridge to nowhere and her "rejection" of the money). She's proven she can lie, be vicious and divisive, and motivate the ultra right who so dearly love their country. To that, add her rejection of evolution, denial that climate change is human caused, obsession with continuing our tragic oil-based energy system... the list goes on. If they're elected, I wonder when she'll hold that first secret "energy summit."

She's also proven she can read the heck out of a teleprompter and do whatever she's told--just tell me who to smear and I'm out there. A great Republican. I was really hoping that having a female presence on the Repub side might mean more civility and grace. Not happening.

FOUR MORE YEARS!!

Posted by: dennis | September 4, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Obama cry babies, it's ok for the Democrats to say hateful things about McCain, so now the shoe is on the other foot and Gov Palin is being nasty. Grow-up, former Pres Carter tells the world that McCain has played the POW card too long. But that's ok with the Dems. At least Sarah has the executive experience that neither Obama or Biden have. I hope she keeps up the rhetoric, as I am sure that the Democrats will get nastier, and continue to lie about their goal of higher taxes.

Posted by: j r diaz | September 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I think Biden should run and hide somewhere (maybe in moveon.org offices), before Palin rips him into little tiny bits.

Posted by: Nils | September 4, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I guess LTADM is qualified to be President.

Posted by: LTADM 4 Prez | September 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

"I'm surprised you don't separate the real people from the plants- a comment like Wordyguy's just smacks of planted 'come along with me' thinly veiled proselytizing. You shouldn't include these in your summaries.

Posted by: katharine | September 4, 2008 11:05 AM"

Oh, and yours is the only opinion that matters? Typical liberal response.

Posted by: Haystack | September 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

There may be a reason why Sarah Palin did not give her agenda away. Ever think she may have the better idea and does not want the competition to snatch and run? It would be a rude awakening if the dems got wind of her plans and then SAID "we will do this..." and then let everyone down. Even if Sarah Palin does disappoint us, which I really doubt, she at least will not be labeled as a liar and an empty speaking politico just out to make a name for herself. Go get um McCain and Palin 2008. As far as being mean and boilerplate-ish, thats politics, or hadn't you noticed Mr stickler for P.C.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Our party used to be the party of ideas. Do we expect to win this election with that kind of empty attacks and no answers to what American people are facing? We are feeling good now, but after Nov 4, 2008, we will count everysingle opportunity we have and miss to convince America that we represent the best alternative to Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Anthony | September 4, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

When a Mayor, Governor, Crony beauracrat and a President failed to save City drowned in floods, it is the Volunteers and Community Organisers who took upon themselves to save their communities and serve them.

When Gustav has hit and Hannah, Ike and Josephine are breathing down the neck, the country needs more volunteers and community organizers when the storm is long forgotten but people are left devastated.

Yes, I agree with Governor Palin that a Community Oraganiser is just like a Mayor only with out Pay and Previlege.

We honor all the heros who do not indulge in divisiveness, but demonstrated selflessness, by not seeking political previlege but a social and community improvement in our world.

We salute the Community Organisers and Volunteers that the Republicans so direly dismiss.

Posted by: srikanth | September 4, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's "lightweight" political resume is still heavyweight compared to not only Barack Obama but also Joe Biden and her own running mate John McCain. She is the only one of the four with ANY real executive experience as a politician. Stop relying on what the media tells you and do a little research on what she's done to help clean up the corrupt state of Alaska in just two years. I am one person who would have NO problem with Sarah Palin as not only Vice President of the United States, but as PRESIDENT of the United States.

Posted by: Haystack | September 4, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Last night Sarah made me very proud to not only be an American but to be a Republican. She is on the ticket as VP not president. When the Democrates say she has no experience I want to punch them. She is the GOVERNOR of the largest State (land mass wise) in the U.S. Obama...Senator that never has so much as written a bill. When they say she just read a speech written for her...Did Obama, Hillary or Biden write their own speeches last week? I highly doubt that. When people say...she didn't discuss health care or the housing crises last night..DUHH She was basically introducting herself to the public, not campaigning. I long for the debate with Biden. I think she is going to win hands down. I love her.

People STOP putting down Small Town America. They are the foundation of this nation.

The Dems don't know when to shut up and that will be their downfall.

Posted by: Ellen C | September 4, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I'm surprised you don't separate the real people from the plants- a comment like Wordyguy's just smacks of planted 'come along with me' thinly veiled proselytizing. You shouldn't include these in your summaries.

Posted by: katharine | September 4, 2008 11:05 AM | Report abuse

If Sally Quinn could do anything but host cocktail parties and dinners for the "elite" Washington crowd then she could give an opinion on Mrs Palin.Mrs Quinn is so shallow that it was imbarasing to hear her comments. Let the ultra socialites of Washington beware, the rest of us are sick of them. The voters love a "genuine person" like Sarah Palin and will support her all the way. Mine is one vote she won last night and I was undecided or planning not to vote at all.

Posted by: E Donovan | September 4, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Another speech full of hatred, nasty, scary and divisive. No economic solutions, nothing to say about new ideas. Doesn't she have anything to say about morgatges, health care or education? The republicans are just more of the same and she has presented herself the same way Bush did, like the outsider staight talking politician....scary

Posted by: Juan | September 4, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company