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Palin Reinvigorates the Base

Post reporter Alec MacGillis wandered down to Tidewater Virginia -- a conservative stronghold full of military bases in the heart of a battleground state -- and discovered that vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin's "debut has invigorated the Republican base."

Christian fundamentalism is strong in that region and Palin's strong anti-abortion position plays well there. The question is whether a state that has chosen Democrats in recent gubernatorial elections will go that way in a presidential race.

Our Readers Who Comment mostly throw barbs at each other today, but some debate the fundamentalist questions carefully and others wonder when Palin will be permitted to submit to work without a telepromter and answer press questions. She is now scheduled to be interviewed by ABC's Gibson.

Republican supporters are taking particular joy in a new USAToday/Gallup poll that shows Republican nominee John McCain leading Democrat Barack Obama 50-46. But Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist, notes that a post-convention bounce is typical and is a poor predicator of election outcomes.

We'll start with the type of high-minded he-said, she-said exchange that too-often typifies reader comments on political stories:

charko825 predicted that, "Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida will be red this year...."

And antonioso shouted, "RED FROM EMBARASSMENT MAYBE!!"

el_barto wrote, "These are the same people who voted for Bush, TWICE. And look where that got us. American cannot take four more years of policies devised to win the support of christian fundamentalists."

AKwatchman said, "It is fundamentally hypocritical of McCain and Palin to push an agenda they know they cannot accomplish in a Democratic Congress. Winning the election is not enough... McCain and Palin are four more years of rancorous gridlock."

afellow1 wrote, "Looks like McCain got a bigger jump from his convention than Obama did, according to the latest USA Today/Gallup Poll... I told you so!"

guytaur1 responded, "I agree with you that McCain got a bigger "bounce". After all he started lower. However it is not just convention "bounce". It is also "honeymoon" effect with Sarah Palin introduction. So he should have got a higher bounce."

fishingriver said, "Its a facade. McCain camp is promoting this energy in hopes that it creates it... They are dying to get crowds at McCain's appearances so it will look like there is enthusiasm. Everything they do is based on deception and misrepresentation."

Draesop wrote, "Senator McCain's support is not going to change much regardless of what either candidate on his ticket says or does. Senator Obama does, however, need to be responding to the myths that are being composed about him and his family... it is my opinion that race is the over riding factor..."

Maddenuf, referring to Gov. Palin's remark in her acceptance speech about Community Organizer Obama, wrote, "Jesus was a community organizer, while Pontius Pilate was a Governor."

And FLTNVA said, "...So called "Christians" who are excited about a closed minded person obviously are paying NO attention to the policies endorsed by the Republicans as those policies are ones which Jesus would have never supported."

But McCurryM1 wrote, "MSM has a HUGE blind spot when it comes to conservative views especially on issues of moral and religious value. What ought to be obvious in the sudden rise of Sarah Palin is the effect of prayer in her life and those who have been praying for the real issues at stake in this election..."

WarIsEvil said, "The only difference than Sarah Palin and Dick Cheney is lipstick."

yellowtavern2 wrote, "I have always respected McCain, but the "conservative base" whom he has galvanized by selecting Palin scares me... We don't need any more politicians to wrap themselves up in the flag and thump the bible. We need reason and ability to compromise on difficult issues..."

LL314 said, "Sarah is so exciting, pretty, and accomplished, that it almost makes me want to vote for her, until I come to my senses... Take away the teleprompter which helps one to stay on message that someone else wrote, and you will have a different candidate..."

To which norconian replied, "I find your attack on Sarah BEFORE YOU HEAR HER WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER typical of left thinking critics. She's giving an interview this week to ABC, at least listen to it before claiming she will be a "different candidate" without a leleprompter.."

concernedaboutdc wrote, "...John McCain used to be a real straight talker. On campaign finance, spending earmarks, Iraq and immigration, he has fought bravely for his principles... But we are now witnessing what might be called McCain's Palinization...The man of principle has become a panderer. The straight talker flip-flops."

We'll close with July_4th_1776, who said, "The news is becoming so bad for Obama, that the Washington post has closed almost every article to posts that concerns the election."

My editor, Hal Straus, who is charge of comments, said, "Not true. We allow comments on Post articles for 72 hours after publication, sometimes longer for articles that have an explicit or implicit reporter's query in them. We don't allow comments on wire articles because they disappear after two weeks..."

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  September 8, 2008; 7:49 AM ET
Categories:  Abortion , McCain , Obama , Palin , Presidential Politics , Virginia Politics  
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the cartoon by pat oliphant on 9/9/08 was even lower than the usual standards of the Washington post. I realise that you as a paper are pro liberal but to let this kind of trash to openly make fun of GOD just to put down a GOP candidate is really in the gutter. you might want to notice that in the process you have caused a very large group of people on the religious right to wake up to the fact that there is only one way to vote in this election and that way is not obama but in this election we will have only one choice McCain and Palin. you really blew it this time.

Posted by: usaii | September 15, 2008 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Why do some Democrats get so caught up on the abortion issue? Abortion(the killing of a child), seems more important to you than anything else. Sarah cant change abortion laws, she is saying what she believes. Let it go...
There are many other important issues to consider this election. We need a president who will do what ever possible to keep our taxes low, drill for oil even if it isn't enough to supply the whole country. The government needs to encourage the people to come up with alternative resources on their own, let the people do it, no extra taxes so the government gets invoved, free enterprise is so much better.
The war in Iraq is important we cant just pull out now. If we leave Iraq now who will come in a take it over? We need to be there, and my question is why arent we going after their oil? We need to figure that out too.
Oil is important until someone comes up with something better but that will take years, meanwhile we still need oil!

Posted by: Linda K. Taylor | September 11, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Obama is like an American Idol winner. Lots of marketing and mindless followers who gradually move on to the next celebrity. He also reminds me of the old Frosted Mini-Wheat commercials when the little kid side shows the youngster in a suit way too big for him. He is from a "me" generation who wants to have the corner office by the 2nd year in the corporation. He's done nothing to deserve it and he just brings a lot of hot air and big spending to the table. Despite astronomical campaign dollars, he's floundering because people now want him to come out of the spotlight and do more than read speeches from teleprompters.

Sorry Obama, you got nothing. For the rest of you with desperate attempts to take down Palin, go to FactCheck.org Everything in the series of posts is cleared up. You fail.

Posted by: Michael | September 11, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

An Open Letter to the Barack Obama Campaign
By a loyal and frustrated Democrat
September 9, 2008

We’ve been here before, in 2000 and 2004, and we don’t like the feeling. The Republican presidential ticket surges while the Democrats’ campaign is looking like a deer caught in the headlights these days; unprepared, unequipped, and immobilized.

What’s wrong here? We know what the Republicans have to offer, and none of it promises anything but a continuation of the cruel, divisive, unfair policies of the past 8 years. The road on which McCain and Palin would take us is clearly marked, both by their own words and by the martial drumbeat of the Republican base. The income gap will grow wider; our troops will continue to die in a pointless quagmire of a war; the planet will continue to sicken, and the middle class (what’s left of it) will struggle harder to make ends meet.

With nearly 80% of Americans believing the country to be headed in the wrong direction and a Republican president with near-record low approval numbers, Obama should be a shoo-in, but instead he’s lost his lead, his momentum, and his stature as the exciting and inspiring candidate of change. And his campaign, true to the worst and weakest aspects of Democratic election politics, is letting it happen. Accusations are either left unanswered or addressed with cool, almost bored-sounding diffidence. Obama’s strategists seem baffled as to how to counter the Republican bloodlust generated by Sarah Palin, afraid of appearing harsh or demeaning if they go on the attack.

Harsh? Demeaning? This is a fight we are in; a fight with millions of stakeholders against an opponent who plays rough, dirty, and relentlessly. Obama is playing right into the Republicans’ hands by trying to appear cool and above the fray. It’s not a winning strategy; just ask John Kerry and Al Gore.

The Obama campaign seems to have become trapped in permanent reactive mode. There appears to have been no forward motion lately, no initiative, and no inspiration. It’s as if Obama is merely waiting to see what the McCain/Palin ticket will do next, so he can respond. Not very presidential, Senator.

So we beg this campaign: Get it together. Get tough, risk the inevitable criticism, and fight. We are behind you, and we are counting on you. If Obama doesn’t start landing punches soon, it will be time for loyal Democrats to begin working on a Hillary Clinton in 2012 campaign, because you will have blown this one. Don’t let that happen.


Posted by: Nigel | September 10, 2008 3:51 AM | Report abuse

Vote the vet.
He earned the right and paid the price.

Posted by: number9 | September 10, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

luvwkd
and the rest of you who think you know the Bible, you show your ingnorance to those of us who have studied the bible. As I stated in an earlier post The Bible in its entirety is true and absolute but you must know with a little commons sense that parts of the Bible are written to specific people for a specific time. Example A: Noah is commanded to build a boat. I am not commanded to build a boat for an emminent flood. I believe that was for Noah. As was the law of the commandments given for the JEWS, the Isrealites, the Hebrews for which you say Christians aren't supposed to eat shell fish. That was a commandment for the Old Testament Law Abiding Jew. I am a New Testament saved by the Grace of Jesus Christ's shed blood on Calvary and will live eternally in Heaven one day because He did Rise from the dead. The Christians( by the way their were know Christians in the Old Testamnet they were Jews.) look to what Paul says in the New Testament that we are not to be judged in meats, or hoylydays,But let everything be recieved with thanksgiving. I can eat anything I want if I give thanks for it. Please, read the Bible thoroughly before you go spewing hyprocisy cries to all Christians.

Posted by: Lori | September 9, 2008 8:54 PM | Report abuse

The republican clown parade never ends.

Posted by: Charles | September 9, 2008 8:17 PM | Report abuse

When will Palin answer questions about the "Bridge to nowhere" she supported before she opposed (... and then kept the money for other pork-barrel spending in Alaska)?

When will Palin finish her crash course on foreign countries, leaders, and policy positions so she will be allowed to talk to the media?

When will Palin come up with an acceptable way to explain that she believes in using public dollars to teach creationism in public schools?

When will Palin come up with an acceptable way to explain that she doesn't believe in global warming?

When will Palin explain how an abstinence only education failed to keep her teenage daughter from getting pregnant out of wedlock?

When will Sarah Palin answer to the American People? (or will she continue to hold her head and nose high to the little people of America and demand deference of them?)

Posted by: Ron | September 9, 2008 7:12 PM | Report abuse

By my reckoning, Palin is a THIEF & TAX CHEAT.

To pocket taxpayer money as compensation/reimbursement for staying at HOME is completely outrageous. Ask any State or Federal employee if they can claim per diem when they go home each night. Just ask them... Better yet, try the Palin per diem reimbursement plan with your employer and see how long you last!..

To pocket taxpayer money in reimbursement for staying HOME makes her THIEF!!! Gov. Conversion of money from the state of Alaska to her PERSONAL use is stealing from the people of Alaska.

Additionally, without a valid offsetting business expense deduction the per diem Gov. Palin received would be considered fully taxable income and she should have reported that income on her federal income tax return. While we (the American People) have not yet been made privy to the Palin tax returns, I'd be willing to wager a day's pay that she did not claim the per diem she received as income on her tax return.

Thus, I willing to go out on limb and assert that Sarah Palin is also a tax cheat. Which to means she stole from the American Taxpayer (YOU & ME)

If you don't understand why her actions were wrong, you simply don't want to understand!

Sarah Palin = THIEF/TAX CHEAT

Posted by: bdthrill | September 9, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

All you right wing so call “Christians” who believe putting a carbon copy of GWB in the White House just because he claims he’ll reverse Roe vs. Wade are hypocrites plain and simple, there is no other explanation for your illogical ideology and your own personal hypocrisy!
The Holy Bible says eating shell fish is an abomination, however you see every Sunday the Bible beaters lining up at Red Lobster after church so they can have their lobster (which is shell fish)! This is the hypocrisy I speak of and it is common every day life for the so called “Christians”! They read and interrupt the Bible in a manner that they can live with and continue to believe they are “Christians” but rationalize the fact they are sinning against what the lord says in the Bible! Typical hypocrisy from people claiming to be“Christians”. Palin falls right in with this “Christian” hypocrisy, had she been a better mom and maybe a true “Christian” herself, her daughter wouldn’t be knocked up and she wouldn’t have utilized her executive power as a governor to get a state trooper fired just because he divorced her sister! You Repuks really want scum like this leading our country?

Posted by: luvwknd | September 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

The base will be really really "invigorated" when someone they know, a sister, a daughter, a friend is forced to have a baby concieved through rape or incest. This is the Palin way. No amount of 'experience" will fix her warped right wing holy roller perspective.

Posted by: D Miner | September 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

lets be realistic,this election is not about issues, its about race,I never realized how many idiots are in this country, they rather drive this country in the sewer than vote about real issues. This country is so divided i am beginning to believe that there is no hope for the future. I remember when Steve Forbes was running for president , he was being ridiculed because he was not good looking regardless how smart he was , but this year we are voting for an incompetent team " beauty and the beast" God help us all

Posted by: j | September 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Fascist wolves in republican red white and blue sheep's clothing have convinced a flock of gullible sheep that thinking is of the devil. Eventually they'll be eaten by the ones they blindly trust.

Posted by: Charles | September 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Q: What's the difference between Palin and an Islamic fundamentalist?

A: Lipstick.

Posted by: Charles | September 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

This is fcuking pathetic. We could learn that Sarah Palin has had two abortions, and any other negative thing you can dream up about her, and Republicans would still say what a great pick she is and how "experienced" she is. They want to remain in power and they don't much care what they have to do or who they have to use to get there. Those who have taken to Palin solely because she is a woman are simply fickle (If, in fact, 62% of men view her favorably, there's a simple explanation: her looks! Wake up!). Once again, with a little help from racists, we face the prospect of the Republican party making a mockery of our constitution and everything it stands for. If they win, the U.S. will continue its decline as a world leader. If we're foolish enough to fall for the Republicans' cynical strategy, that's exactly what we will deserve. Don't blame me, I am voting for Obama. (Just like you can't blame me; I voted for Kerry and Gore. For all thos who don't fall for the dirtball Republicans' tricks, I am happy to say WE TOLD YOU SO!)

Posted by: Don'tTrashOurCountry | September 9, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I don't know how anybody with an IQ above room temperature can be taken in by the parade of already debunked lies and distortions that Palin and the McCain campaign are vomiting out incessantly?

But, then, I am still amazed that this same tactic worked in 2000, 2002, 2004, and at least lessened the Democratic success in 2006.

The only conclusions I can come to are:

1) The American public's average IQ is somewhere around that of a sack full of hammer handles.

2) Some people would vote for a three-headed monkey as long as it promised to oppose abortion and turn the nation into a fundamental Christian dominionist theocracy.

3) Fearmongering, appeals to hatred, mistrust, and derision are far more potent motivators than appeals to reason, facts, or common sense.

The Obama campaign is making the same mistake that Kerry and Gore made previously. They really believe that, as Obama himself said last night on MSNBC, "after the dust settles" the common sense of the American people will kick in and they will realize that the McCain camp offers just 4 more years of the same failed policies, and will realize that a vote for Obama is a vote for real change, instead of only the rhetoric of change.

Obama's main problem is that he, like his predecessors, can't bring himself to recognize that the Rovian campaign tactics are carefully calibrated to raise the dust cloud in the first place, and keep it growing thicker and thicker until after Election Day. His second problem is that he really believes that the majority of voters in this country are possessed of that most uncommon virtue, "common" sense. If that were true, then President Gore would be finishing off his second term, or, at worst, President Kerry would be running for re-election today.

The idea that ANYBODY could have lost to George W. Bush is breathtaking. That, after four years of his total mismanagement, he could win a second term strains credulity.

But, then, in a country where 20% of the population believes the Sun revolves around the Earth, where more people believe in Astrology than Evolution, where 20% don't know how many Senators we have, where more than 20% can name all five family members of the Simpson cartoon show, yet fewer than 1 in 1,000 can name all five freedoms guaranteed (or formerly guaranteed) in the First Amendment, nothing should surprise me any more.

One of our Founding Fathers, John Adams warned of this day when he said,

"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."

George W. Bush has slit America's wrists and let the lifeblood of Democracy (not to mention our troops) drain away into the sand. John McCain and Sarah Palin stand poised to administer the final coup de grâce to a once-proud nation and an ultimately failed noble experiment.

I suggest that we all spend the next few months learning a foreign language. We're going to need it to survive when the Ship of State sinks beneath the waves of ignorance and fear.

Posted by: Blue Sun | September 9, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

How can she re-invigorate when she has just invigorated it. Do you mean resuscitate?

The base is estimated to be 33% and the other 17% will be finding out that the carefully constructed image and record of Palin is a fraud. One lie after another is coming out after diligent research into her background.

She could resuscitate her broken image but that would mean she would have to give a live press conference using her own unscripted words. Bloody unlikely, that.

Posted by: Marilyn | September 9, 2008 6:52 AM | Report abuse

OBAMA is an empty suit. OBAMA heads are empty heads. Olberman is Obama's pimp. MSNBC is Obama heads campaign channel.

American people will have their final say into this left wing media Racket and put them to shame.

Vote Mccain 2008 and Vote Hillary 2012.

Only criminals, Felons, Drug addicts, Elite Hollywood on weed and weird people are supporting the Emptyhead Obama in left field.
Common average working man and women who love what American stands and understand American values support mcCain/ Palin and later on Hillary.

Posted by: Hillarysupporter | September 9, 2008 1:26 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin likes moose burgers, she lives in Wasilla, she has been governor of Alaska for two years and she is a right to lifer.

Republicans have embraced Palin even though they know nothing about her. If they want to convince themselves that slogans are a substitute for thoughtfulness and well-established policy positions then no one can stop them.

These same people put George Bush in the WH on two occasions. Now they do not want to know him.

Why do they trust Palin or their own judgment?

Posted by: Robert James | September 8, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

I say lets go pink.

Who would believe the republicans would bring in the first true communist subversive to our government. The left should give this woman a chance.

Last year, 2007, Alaska's legislature approved a major tax increase on those windfall profits of the oil industry. The state of Alaska has received more than $10 billion this year from oil revenue.

Thanks to the addition of these new taxes, Alaska's governor Sarah Palin now gives $1,200 to every single Alaskan to help them pay for gas. In addition, each resident will receive an annual dividend of $2,000 from an oil-wealth savings account. Think what a family of 7 could do with that money (Gov. Palin has 7 members in her family).

That's a fancy way of describing wealth redistribution, i.e., downright communism. And that is real change we can believe in. Will she do the same for the Lower 48 states?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

Congrads secession party just 6 months ago. 7 year membership as subversive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PizrJLV30yI&feature=related

God will punish America – her pastor knows America is evil just listen


Well, in my state I want to know why Arnold Schwarzenegger hasn't got those big fact checks from the oil companies for every citizen of California. What's wrong with him? Common Arnie, get us on that gravy train, too.

Posted by: basementfrog | September 8, 2008 9:21 PM | Report abuse

I love her! She's wonderful--a breath of fresh air for the soul. Her speech at the Republican National Convention brought tears to my eyes. Why? I do not know.

In the past, women have been their own worst enemies. I pray this will change in 2008.

Posted by: vperry | September 8, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I am so excited about the Race now that Palin is in the mix. I am a conservative leaning independant. Glad to see a conservative in the mix. Hard to find info on Palin. McCain needs to let her talk to the media so we can find out more about who she is.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

MIPS, one last blog for me and I am done with this one. In the end it comes down to "Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen" I have that Faith and apparently you don't. I have enjoyed our dialog and hope one day you will see the truth as it is. God bless!

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." That is from John 1:1. This does not define "creationism" as it is defined by Americans who believe that the Bible states and time and a place for creation. You could interpret this in so many ways. What does "word" mean, you ask. Well, it seems like word equals communication, thought, an opinion. Basically this leads me to believe that since "the word was God," that God is communication, god is the transmission of knowledge. I am not sure how religious people take this very symbolic language to mean that this world was created a specific amount of time ago. Nor does the bible say of which substance the world was created. Maybe god made evolution? Maybe evolution is the principle by which God wanted to provide an incentive for people to be virtuous, since in human societies, people who tended to respect their community, tended to survive.

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Oh yes, and now I must go fix dinner. :)
BTW MIPS read John1:1 and for that matter the whole book of John. Jesus did believe and teach creation he just didn't have to expound on it because no one would have ever thought about differently. But he was the one who spoke this world into existence.

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Mips, It might surprise you to know I do not believe that the federal government should have any say so in the marriage of an individual. Our Forefathers would wish they had never started this great nation.However, I do not believe that the gays should recieve special treatment by the government anymore than those of us who are not gay. I believe that God will judge them but it is not my duty to send them to Hell. I do not want it pushed on my children that it is a good and right lifestyle and I won't prevent them from doing what every other American citizen has the right to do. I don't care to see them holding hands in public but it shouldn't be against the law. Explicit shows of their lifestyle are wrong and should not be allowed. Just as explicishows of my lifestyle should not be allowed. I think I am not a true Republican but I know Obama is not the answer either. What are we to do? That is question I just ask God daily to give me the answer to.

Oh and btw this minivan driving mom loves to blog!!

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I only listen to Jesus' quotations, and even those I take with a grain of salt because I know they were tainted by imperfect human messengers. If only Jesus knew how to write and had committed his teaching to text himself.

Anyways, even if the people who wrote the Bible really were getting insight from God, which i doubt, they were trying to describe a philosophy that made sense two thousand years ago. Sarah Palin believes in Creationism, and it is not supported by the words of Jesus in the new testament. The biblical writers lived in a different world where they thought the world was flat, they thought their little village and the local kingdom was the only thing in the world. They had no science, they did not know nearly as much as we know now. Believing in evolution does not directly contradict anything about Jesus' worldview. Therefore I have no problem with it.

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Religion has entered the political sphere because you have many "religious" people saying that they vote for Republicans because that party upholds their social values. I feel this is a hijacking of what Jesus taught. The Republicans believe in war as an effective political tool and they write legislation that further increases the power of the industrial-military complex. This to me, goes against all the teachings of Jesus. I am glad that the Republicans support pro-life positions but that is as religious as they get. On the other side, I think that the persecution of gay people that the Republicans support is arrogant; it is as if the Republicans feel they should do the work of God themselves. If gay people are damned to hell for their actions, then why not let God make that decision when they enter the after life. This does not mean that you are advocating the gay lifestyle, it just means you give people the basic human right of marrying whomever they please. It does not mean that you have to invite them over for Saturday brunch either.

I just want to make sure that religious people who vote republican, or who vote for a democrat without inspecting all the issues that make that candidate a "good christian" or not, are actually working against the religious society that they say they want.

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Can I ask a simple question? What do the teachings of Jesus or any other religion have to do with politics in the White House? Are we going to expect our politicians to pray for a better tomorrow? Not to mention that our dear beloved Sarah Palin doesn't seem to follow the teachings of her religious beliefs very well. So if we are expecting this person to pray for us and make things better she better make good with god first. Her daughter has had premarital sex, but she is against sexual education and she is against abortion even when it comes to rape. Doesn't this mean that the religious rules can be bent for her family but not for the rest of us? This hardly seems like someone who is on god's good side. Besides, just today the news has investigated her church in Anchorage, Alaska who's Pastor has been quoted as saying that "John Kerry voters would go to hell." What is this nonsense? They also speak in tongues at this church? But again I want to make the point that even if all this is well and good what is the significance, or rather, what part of this makes this person a qualified candidate for a Vice Presidency?

Posted by: Enrique | September 8, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

Thing about bloggers is they are mostly literate and computer savvy making their probable collective IQ too high (despite appearances of hearty dimwittedness online) to take Palin seriously. But this would be underestimating the huge silent majority she represents, the station wagon cul-de-sac moms whose identity gets kinda swallowed up in marriage and megachurch and now they are vicariously starring in the show. Even tho she is Rush Limbaugh's candidate, it is underestimating her and her constiuency that is going on. Those station wagon megachurch moms do not have time for bloggin, mostly, but they do see TV.

Posted by: Gaias Child | September 8, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

You know how you can tell when you have a pair of bad politicians who should not get your vote?

When the comedy shows like The Daily Show with John Stewart start to actually make sense.

Posted by: Enrique | September 8, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Palin to me is like a wind up doll. They fed her the talking points for the first speech at the RNC and now she just keeps repeating the same garbage over and over again. All she has proven to us is that as any reporter (half-wit) she can read a teleprompter.

Posted by: Enrique | September 8, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Mps what you and many people fail to understand about Jesus is that of his ministry here on earth and what we have recorded in God's word as what he spoke while on the earth are all that we as Christians should heed to. Jesus in most of his teachings in the Four Gospels was talking to his disciples and it was about the kingdom that was to come. This Kingdom has not come yet ( as is evident by one look at the world news) After His death burial and resurrection, he told his followers to do some things but the main thing they were to do was to wait on the Holy Spirit which came to them at Pentecost. After that many changes happened God shifted from dealing just with the Jews to dealing with Gentiles and the Gospel spread like wildfire. Paul the Apostle who wrote most of the New Testament gives us much of what we as most Bible Believing Christians follow. And I take those epistles as God's Word,Jesus' mandates as well. What is a standard most Bible Believers go by is that if Paul didn't change thing in his writings ( where he changed no more sacrifices of animals, because Jesus was the final sacrifice, no more judgement in meats and drinks,etc. No more meeting in the Jewish temple on the sabbath, it changed to the first day of the week,etc) if he didn't change things then we hold to the Old Testament commandments. Basically , Murdering of another human then the punishment should meet the crime.It is so evident how that has failed in our criminal justice system. I don't want anyone to die but I know justice need to be handed out in order for things to be kept Civil. I hope that answers your question.

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I can accept a job training and placement program that requires attendance from the person being helped. Basically this equates to teaching a person how to fish rather than giving them a week's worth of fish.

If you had the choice of funding a job training grant from the government versus paying for a permanent military base in Iraq, which would you choose? I think this scenario is what this election is all about. We need more resources for lifting people into prosperity and less resources for bombing people into submission. McCain would have my support if he were not so determined to use the military of the United States in an aggressive manner. In the same fashion, I have serious reservations about Obama when he talks about a complete invasion of Afghanistan. I think we need to reserve invasion for the prevention of genocide rather than using it to hunt down criminals who attacked America. We have special ops, the fbi and the cia for tracking down criminals.

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Lori, well, you are to be commended! But you are the rare exception!

Posted by: AllShookUp | September 8, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Mips -- maybe a technicality, but i think Jesus would look favorably on someone who sacrifed himself so others might live. Probably not what you're after though.

Re: job training, etc. I'm more apt to support programs that require something of the beneficiary. Handouts are not only ineffectively, I think they are simply the wrong thing to do.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | September 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

If only we had more people like you we would not need to have this debate. The fact is, we do not have enough people like you. Don't you think that the government could provide an incentive for more people to do courageous and kind things like you and your husband?

Building on this, do you believe that the government providing grants for organizations that are helping people could help to produce a society that contained more people like yourself and your husband? I think in the very least, if we had three times as many organizations like your local church, then more people in our society would notice the value of being a good christian, and would take it upon themselves to help those in need. I think human beings learn through an observation of the world around them. A more positive world will allow for more positive observations.

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Lori, you can try to be clever citing bible verses all you want, but to try to get around "Thou Shalt Not Kill" on the grounds that GOD killed just won't wash with God. We just don't have the same standing. And no, abortion is not okay. It's wrong. That's why I am against it. (Except for rape, where any fetus is the result of the direct opposite of God's will (i.e., rape, which is evil); I do not believe God is capable of willing evil). But no one is required to have an abortion. And to say , as many would, that it should be illegal to take RU 486 after right after you've been raped, is based on a religious belief in the "personhood" of a few cells that others shouldn't have to believe in and that certainly shouldn't be the law. Obama isn't in favor of having abortions, and he actually said a lot needs to be done to discourage people from having them. But he draws the line at enforcing others' religious beliefs on everyone in a pluralistic society that is governed by a constitution which provides rights (not just religious rights) for all.

Posted by: OneOfGod'sSons | September 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Lori,

Do you think there is any condition under which Jesus would advocate for the killing of a human being? If your answer is anything but no, please justify your thinking on this.

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Allshook up, what have I done?? Lets see I feed and clothe hundreds of children in my own community. Every Saturday my husband and I and several friends from our church Gather any and all children that want to come to our church and we have Bible stories and games and we feed them a hot meal. We have a food closet at our church and anyone that calls in need gets a full bag of groceries just for the asking.And if they need a job, my husband along with many other men have a position ready for someone to help them get on their feet. My husband and I sponsor a local inmate and are helping him as he gets to the end of his time to get back into society to be a working man and not need welfare.

You asked so I told you. I know that if the people will stand up and do the work the government would not have to.

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

oneofGod's sons, your ignorance of the scriptures shines through when you refer to the ten commandments. Anyone who has read the book of Exodus will know that the ten commandments were not the only commandments handed out. They were a guideline. The rest of the story is in the book of Exodus,Leviticus, and Deuteronomy.And God supported "the death penalty" for things other than murder. If you are going to use Scripture to combat those of us who do not believe abortion should be a choice then you need to at least know what the Scripture actually says.

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Lori, you said: "Under true Christian leadership the poor are helped and the downtrodden are taken care of by the people! Not the government." Tell me, what people? There are hundreds of thousands of homeless. Who are these people that have taken care of them? The view you express easily leads to the justification of doing nothing to help those most in need. What have YOU done to take care of them? In case you missed it, Barack Obama, in the video shown before his acceptance speech, pointed out that everyone says, "someone ought to do something about" problems. But, he said, he realized early on that unless HE did something, no one else was going to. Combined with his upbringing to always try to put yourself in the other's shoes and imagine what things are like for them, his demonstrated history of DOING WORK TO HELP MAKE OTHERS' LIVES BETTER shows that he is the candidate who actually cares about the poor and middle class and will actually strive to help them. McCain can shout "I'm gonna shake things up" all he wants, but in 26 years he hasn't shaken up anything except his own party on occasion.

Posted by: AllShookUp | September 8, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I think it is important to clarify what constitutes as helping the poor and downtrodden. Consider a job training and job placement program supported with federal tax money. This is not a handout but it is available to anyone whose desperate situation qualifies. This measure provides a path for people to get back on their feet.

Simply giving a homeless person a meal is nice and helpful, but how does that change the poor person's overall life in the future?

Also, this federal money would be provided as a grant to a company run by ordinary Americans, so in essence you could say that this good deed would be initiated by people but simply made possible by the government.

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Hello Mips Friend - what have I done to help? not nearly enough

Posted by: NoVAHockey | September 8, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Chuck F you have so eloquently put into words what I would have liked to say. Thank you. True Christians understand that liberty is for all to come to God if they want to, but as you said God is patient but he will let people have their way and ignore him. Under true Christian leadership the poor are helped and the downtrodden are taken care of by the people! Not the government. Our country was built on the premise of Self Government which so many people lack in this society today. Therefore,the Federal and State governments have been given the right by we the people to take over our affairs. If we but govern ourselves then Washington does not need to govern us.

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

No, not saying the government should not do anyhing, just that the government isn't very good and really can't do something to address such problems over the long term.

Where we draw the line is the great debate. I think that line should shift as the times warrant, but on the whole, the less reliant people are on the government, the better.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | September 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

NoVAHockey -- so tell us, just what have you done to help the poor and the downtrodden? Or is that someone else's job? (Someone other than "Christians").

Posted by: Friend of mips | September 8, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

NoVAHockey, Are you saying that the government should not do anything to help poor people and people who are suffering from joblessness and being sick and uninsured? If you think the government should do something, then how much?

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

jk, clearly you are fcuked in the head.

Posted by: stampoutprejudice | September 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

jk, where is the love??

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"Did not Jesus say blessed are those who help the weak and downtrodden?"

I thought it was just the weak and downtrodden who were blessed. Those that helped weren't blessed, but rather were fulfilling their obligations as decent people. In addition, those that made a big public spectacle about how pious and charatible they are "already received their reward."

And I think we all agree that such work is needed. But there's a difference in working to help the weak and downtrodden and continuing to fund program after program, project after project, that have not done anything to reduce suffering. Just because you don't support government programs doesn't mean you don't want to help the poor. In other words, if you think paying taxes is a charitable contribution or that it meas you've done your good dead for the day, you're wrong. Active citizens do more than the government ever will.

Posted by: NoVAHockey | September 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

I read the articles, listen to the news, and wonder....

What is happening in America???

Our eocnomy and the dollar is sinking, banks are failing, Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac have to be taken over by the government, foreclosures at a record high, jobs going overseas, people can't afford the high prices of food, fuel, medical care, clothing, homes....
We are fighting a war in Iraq that should have never been waged except for Bush & Cheney's oil buddies and Bush's ego and have taken our eye off the ball while the Taliban has regrouped and gained strength in Aghanistan....
Our government is drowning in debt and the Bush administration is spending billions each month in Iraq alone, building their roads, bridges, etc., while our government can't afford to fix America's infrastructure....

Bush et al have ruined our country

Do you want 4 more years of economic downturns, foreclosures, jobs losses, high prices????

Then vote for McSame aka McCain and his nut-case running mate Palin who wants to ban books, believes in abstinence only, creationism instead of science....

God help this country if McCain & Palin are elected.

Posted by: abby0802 | September 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

What's amusing about the "change" candidates is how they have changed.

Hillary realized it was advantageous to talk about change after people rallied to Obama's talk about change.

McCain never talked about change untill he realized everyone was changing around him. He tried to it hard on the experience question. And then he changed.

Now it isn't about experience. It's about change. So now we are all on the change bandwagon.

McCain should be proof to Palin that evolution is real. Palin is proof experience is no longer an issue.

The real question with Palin is not all the little side issues. But is she the best pick to be the backup President of the United States. McCain thinks she is which call once again into questioning his judgement.

If Palin is really qualified then maybe she should have entered some primary races last winter and run for the office on her own merits and not on McCain's coat tails.

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty | September 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

This is why i would vote for anyone but obama:
William Ayers - American Terrorist
Raila Odinga - Cousin, Radical Islamist
Raul Reyes - Columbian Terrorist
Antonio Rezko - Slum Lord
Professor Khalidi - Muslim Terrorist Supporter
Reverend Wright - Racist,Supporter/Preacher, Anti-American
Reverend James Meeks - Racist
Reverend Louis Farrakhan - Racist Nation of Islam / Faux Preacher
Reverend. Jesse Jackson - Racist - Anti-Semetic
Nadhmi Auchi - Muslim Billionaire
Sohaib Abassi - Muslim Millionaire

Posted by: jk | September 8, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

A lot of negativity mixed with some actual truth here. Let's try and be objective and truthful here.Although I personally respect McCaine, he's a Republican pushing the same fundamental economic policies they've always pushed. This seems to have started with Reagan(whom I voted for twice) and continued almost uninterupted since his election. I never even saw a homeless person till Reagan was president. The Clinton years were a very good time, and unlike the Reagan and Bush Sr. years, I always had a job and saw my pay gradually increase. Clinton also balanced the budget for his last three years and left us with a $380 billion surplus. It's the Repub's bad economic policies and conservative agenda that I don't wanna see any more of, not Palin's lack of experience. By the way, although she did have teleprompter problems, it was clearly working part of the time(you could see it over her right shoulder) and she had a copy of the speech in front of her just in case.

Posted by: DW | September 8, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

cspolj -- has it occurred to you that McCain's campaign spinsters created those bullsh_t lines about Palin's "executive experience" (which people with brains are laughing about) in the hopes that dolts like you would run with them without analyzing or thinking about them? You have played right into the hands of the cynical idiots Rove, Schmidt, etc. Two McCain aids are on youtube publicly stating that Palin is a bullsh_t candidate and they can't believe they have to defend her. You really should expand your reading list. Otherwise, it begins to look like you're trying to find a reason to tear Obama down. Gee, I wonder what reason you might settle upon?

Posted by: NotAnIdiotLike cspolj | September 8, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Mips you are onto something. Just maybe some professed "Christians" have their own notions of exactly what being a Christian means. In his recent book, Jim Wallis, evangelical minister and founder of Sojourners, says that if the news you're delivering isn't good news for the poor, then it's not from God. Christianity is used by politicians as a rhetorical device or "brand." It doesn't mean they actually believe in the teachings of Jesus. Anyone can claim to be a Christian. But what they DO is what tells you whether in fact they are truly Christian.

Posted by: OneOfGod'sSons | September 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Some morons here are actually claiming that Barky has as much experience as Sarah Palin. First of all Sarah has executive experience. Second unlike Barky she didn't have the luxury of voting present on everything and basically doing nothing. Third she did not spend most of her time after getting elected running for even higher office. That itself should be enough to expose this fraud and send him home. But no the media has to protect him at all cost because he is the chosen one and god has blessed everyone by giving us barky!

Posted by: cspolj | September 8, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

What is wrong with a job training and placement program for people who have lost their jobs and their homes? Would you rather they starve to death? Turn to crime to support their families? Panhandle money on the street for the rest of their lives? Republicans who demonize socialism clearly have an agenda which includes being fine with people suffering. Did not Jesus say blessed are those who help the weak and downtrodden? (okay I paraphrased that because I do not have a bible with me, but you get the point)

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I have a hard time understanding how the Christians in this country have such a hateful response to the world "socialism." This word has become demonized by elitists, namely people with a lot of money, who do not care about people who starve to death or whose children die of preventable and treatable diseases. There are a lot of ways that you can define democracy, as you can see in the history of America. This means there are a lot of ways that you can define socialism, and each way includes different policies.

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Religious people who support a pro life position are very courageous. I am pro life but I am also a pacifist. The reason that I support the Democrats is because they are supportive of pacifism in terms of the role they see for the American military. In my reading of the Bible, I only pay attention to the direct quotations from Jesus, and as far as I can tell, Jesus believed that there should be no army, and that people should not commit acts of violence.

In short, violence is a sin.

My feeling is that more innocent lives will be saved if the American military is not engaged in pointless wars. I feel that these lives number more greatly than those lost to abortions. I regret that Democrats are pro choice but I have to weigh the actual number of lives that are lost. I cannot in good conscience vote for an administration that will result in the killing of more innocent people.

Posted by: Mips | September 8, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

cspolj -- abortion is terrible, I agree, but Obama wouldn't require anyone to have one. (Do you really think a woman who's been raped shouldn't be allowed to have an abortion or use RU 486 shortly thereafter? Does God will rapes to occur?) Also, do you also hate the death penalty? I haven't heard any Republicans crowing against that. I think the ten commandmnents might even deal with it. Says "thou shalt not." No exceptions are given. Republicans have always been steafast supporters of the death penalty. Don't you see some inconsistency?

Posted by: OneofGod'sSons | September 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

McShame is making a mockery out of this election, plain and simple!
Palin's a friggen joke, the GOP says a senator with 4 years under his belt is not experienced to lead this country, how about a govenor with 2 years under her belt? GOP calls that experience? especially since McShame could easily drop dead at any second!
Next, what about trooper-gate, a govenor who utilizes her executve power for personal vindication really shows the country how she would lead now doesn't it?
Third, Palin barks and barks about abstinence in schools & won't allow for condoms to be distributed and her own 17 year old is knocked up? THAT IS PLAIN HYPOCRACY, which IS a Repuklican motto!

This simply shows how poor of judgement McShame really has! He is NOT qualified to be President which is displayed by his failure as a fighter pilot!

I rest my case - OBAMA ALL THE WAY IN NOVEMBER - NOW MORE THAN EVER!

Posted by: luvwknd | September 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

cspolj -- please tell us you haven't procreated. I would hate to see your children suffer a disadavantage in the gene pool because of you. Oh, I forgot, you people don't believe in that. God created everything in "ready to eat" form 5,000 years ago.

Posted by: Charles Darwin | September 8, 2008 2:51 PM
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Mr. Darwin -- You will be glad to learn that the answer is no I have not. In the event that someone does become pregnant because of me I will be sure to make Barky and his supporters proud by pushing for a botched abortion and then just dump the infant into the trash can. Happy???

Posted by: cspolj | September 8, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

To Anonymous.
Did I say God punishes. I said no vacuum in the spirit world. When we move away from God, His blessings disappear with Him!.

Posted by: ChuckF | September 8, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

ChuckF - you have some good points, but I think the notion that God punishes entire nations because some leaders have fallen away is silly and simplistic.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

What is the difference between George W. Bush and Sarah Palin? LIPSTICK

Posted by: Melinda | September 8, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

vic -- Obama went overseas and showed how a president should act and how he should meet and consult with other world leaders. McCain hasn't done that. Meanwhile, as Obama was consulting with world leaders to understand and figure out how to restore honor to this country, Palin, for her part, said, "gee, I sure wish someone could tell me what the vice president does." Take your emotions out of it and you'll see that Obama is the far superior candidate.

Posted by: It's a No-Brainer: We need Obama | September 8, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I love my family. I love my friends. I'm really happy I'm alive. I'm so grateful my mom didn't abort me.

Posted by: | September 8, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I am so excited about the Race now that Palin is in the mix. I am a conservative leaning independant. Glad to see a conservative in the mix. Hard to find info on Palin. McCain needs to let her talk to the media so we can find out more about who she is.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

This is a very interesting perspective on the Palin choice from an ususual and surprising religious point of view. I highly recommend checking it out:

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 8, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

This is a list of books that then-mayor, Sarah Palin tried to ban from Wasilla library, according to library minutes. The list includes Shakespeare, Chaucer, Faulkner and more:

1. A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess

2. A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle

3. Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden

4. As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner

5. Blubber by Judy Blume

6. Brave New World by Aldous Huxley

7. Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson

8. Canterbury Tales by Chaucer

9. Carrie by Stephen King

10. Catch-22 by Joseph Heller

11. Christine by Stephen King

12. Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau

13. Cujo by Stephen King

14. Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen

15. Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite

16. Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck

17. Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller

18. Decameron by Boccaccio

19. East of Eden by John Steinbeck

20. Fallen Angels by Walter Myers

21. Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland

22. Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes

23. Forever by Judy Blume

24. Grendel by John Champlin Gardner

25. Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam

26. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling

27. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling

28. Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling

29. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling

30. Have to Go by Robert Munsch

31. Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman

32. How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell

33. Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

34. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou

35. Impressions edited by Jack Booth

36. In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak

37. It’s Okay if You Don’t Love Me by Norma Klein

38. James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl

39. Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H. Lawrence

40. Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman

41. Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm

42. Lord of the Flies by William Golding

43. Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein

44. Lysistrata by Aristophanes

45. More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz

46. My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier

47. My House by Nikki Giovanni

48. My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara

49. Night Chills by Dean Koontz

50. Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck

51. On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer

52. One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn

53. One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey

54. One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez

55. Ordinary People by Judith Guest

56. Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women’s Health Collective

57. Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy

58. Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl

59. Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz

60. Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz

61. Separate Peace by John Knowles

62. Silas Marner by George Eliot

63. Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

64. Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs

65. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain

66. The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain

67. The Bastard by John Jakes

68. The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger

69. The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier

70. The Color Purple by Alice Walker

71. The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth

72. The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs

73. The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck

74. The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson

75. The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood

76. The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder

77. The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks

78. The Living Bible by William C. Bower

79. The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare

80. The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman

81. The Pigman by Paul Zindel

82. The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders

83. The Shining by Stephen King

84. The Witches by Roald Dahl

85. The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder

86. Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume

87. To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee

88. Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare

89. Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster

90. Editorial Staff

91. Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween

92. Symbols by Edna Barth.

As a centrist, it is disappointing to me that McCain handed over the future of the republican party to such an extremist.

Posted by: Disappointed_in_McCain | September 8, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Gemini -- please try to understand the difference between "judging," which is God's province, and simply analyzing people's claims are rejecting what is bullsh_t, which is our province in an election. The latter is what's going on here. You can't tell the world, "look how wonderful we are," and then accuse people of "judging" you when it turns out you are telling half-truths and lies.

Posted by: GoBarack08 | September 8, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Time all Americans looked at their history again and not the propaganda surrounding their history. America was founded on the ethics behind Judeo Christian principles. Where do you think the idea of three distinct levels of govenment came from?, and many others. These same principles gave America what it had. "Past Tense Intended"

There is no vacuum in spiritual terms, so as America is moving away from these values, so too it is rapidly losing what these values gave it.
Take a look around the World at the different "religions" of the World and ask yourself, which of these countries would you live in, and which of these countries could give you the standard of living and freedoms that the US has been priveleged to enjoy these many years.
In spiritual terms, where Christianity is left in decline, there will be no vacuum. Look at Europe, where they are not even aware of what they have lost in that which Christianity gave it. Most european governments are now scared of upsetting the ever strengthening rise of Islam, (something has to fill the vacuum). Does Sharia law turn your crank? do you want your women in the attire of Islam, the Burka?or do the freedoms won at Runnymead where the Magna Carta was signed (I know it was not perfect but curtailed the despotic rule of the Crown largely) which enabled common law to give us the freedoms we still enjoy, but are, sadly, quickly losing. Take a look at this very web sites "User Discussion and Submission Guidlines". I wonder if this post will be censored. Are these freedoms worth pursuing?

To the "non religious" out there, don't be turned off by what you perceive Christianity to be, especially that which is very often served up on television. Jesus is still in the business of changing lives for the better. Even the "Church" today is nothing of what it was many years ago, and has, as the Bible warned, lost that which has positively influenced society with, namely it's salt and light, it's Spirit. It's time for the Church to return to God!!

Unfortunately your desire to have nothing to do with God, will eventually be granted you. God is gracious and patient to see if you will return to Him, and to your roots, if you still recognise them. If not, then He "will" give you your hearts desire and you will degenerate into the types of countries which have almost totally forgotten God, Haiti, and the like being an example of this, voodoo anyone?.

Wake up America, you are the last bastion of freedom left on the planet. Already there are extensive plans well under way to strip you of your freedoms, you will hear very little of this in the press, this news paper included! the beginning of which is the North American Union.
Godbye (no typo) America as we once knew it. So sad to have to submit this type of comment, but I feel, so necessary.

Posted by: ChuckF | September 8, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

i think the worst moment of his campaign was to Go to Germany. It was one of the craziest thing i ever heard. None of the foreign Politicians come to USA to promote themselves. Its shame and media just bought it.
Mccain/Palin 08

Posted by: vic | September 8, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

cspolj -- please tell us you haven't procreated. I would hate to see your children suffer a disadavantage in the gene pool because of you. Oh, I forgot, you people don't believe in that. God created everything in "ready to eat" form 5,000 years ago.

Posted by: Charles Darwin | September 8, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the constitution gives too much freedom. Did you ever think of that? Sarah Palin wanted to ban books to protect the public, especially children. She wanted money for her town and she got it. Who cares how? This is politics. Also, just because she was for something and later changed her mind, why should that matter? People change their mind about stuff all the time. She has five kids so she can obviously handle a crisis or emergency. She is well qualified. I don't understand why people are criticizing her. Why does the press need to question her? They can just look at her record. The press has way too much freedom.

Posted by: Braindead voter | September 8, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Bush and Cheney are supporting McCain and Palin,that means they have to be bad for the Country!!

Posted by: 1 | September 8, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

For those who weren't aware, this fraud Barky Soetoro initially requested Secret Service protection on his own so he will look more presidential. Homeland Security did not think it was necessary at that time (so they didn't act on their own). But after Barky made that request Chertoff signed off on it basically because a candidate requested it and he did not want to be accused of racism.

But this shouldn't surprise anyone. After all part of Barky's strategy has been to make people think that he is already the president (the rest of his strategy being accuse innocent people of racism and bigotry).

Fake Messiah Seal, Obama Force One (his stinky campaign plane) etc.

Posted by: cspolj | September 8, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Democrats don't judge because no one is perfect but God. Stop hating!!!

Posted by: Gemini | September 8, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Check out Vietnam vets against McCain !!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse


The End Of the false Messiah!!

Mccain/Palin 08

Posted by: vic | September 8, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Looks like attention junkie Barky went to drop off his daughters at school today so that he can show the media that he is a family man (like the 100th time we have heard about him dropping them off at school since he started running). Who cares if it is their first day of school? What happened to "I hate America" Michelle? She is in hiding about 95% of the time anyway. Get her to drop them off at school. Oh I forgot. If the other kids see that tramp and her ugly/angry face they will all start crying!

Posted by: cspolj | September 8, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

America is in decline but hasn't hit bottom yet. Like AA, you have to hit bottom before you can rise up and come back. John & Sarah will help us hit bottom so after they're out we can come back. Go McCain/Palin!

Posted by: MaybeNotLogicalBut | September 8, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

For how long are the Republicans going to closet Palin. Sooner or later she will have to emerge out hiding and give real answers to questions by real people rather than reading from scripts and repeating from memory . The whole thing by McCain IS A BIG GAMBLE AND WILL SOON BE EXPOSED FOR WHAT IT IS. There are going to be a lot of red faced Republicans before this matter is through.

Posted by: Brian Musah | September 8, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

After the debates we will see which way the polls bounce!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Matthew, McCain/Mc[C]unt 2008!

Posted by: Elect the Tramp! | September 8, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I heard it was two abortions!But they are keeping that as quiet as possible.Sarah Palin isnt doing any interviews because she doesnt have all her answers memorized yet,thats also why she is still campaigning with McCain instead of out on her own..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

The lady is a tramp.

The facts will, I think, support this claim. But I'm with Rhett Butler--ladies hold no particular interest for me. In fact, I'd be more likely to vote for McCain/Palin because she is a tramp.

America deserves to represented by a tramp.

Posted by: Matthew | September 8, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Oprah cannot interview Palin. She will offend the black. Over 90% of black support Obama. So in the end, Oprah has to take a stand, and it is to serve her race over the principles. How is that not clear to everyone?

Posted by: indi | September 8, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know if there's any truth to press reports coming out saying Planned Parenthood records show Palin has had an abortion?

Posted by: Independent Voter '08 | September 8, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Roger, read the Frank Rich oped posted by another poster below. Also, your facts are way wrong. You should spend time researching facts instead of running with the McCain lies and trying to spread them. P.S. I wonder if those who were killed in action in Iraq would think McCain is such a great choice. Guess we can't ask them. And don't say Bush wasn't the greatest. HE WAS THE WORST! McCain's basis pitch is, "I'm not as bad as Bush" Wow!

Posted by: Military Service doesn't qualify you to be president | September 8, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Lori, you seem to be dumber than a post, and full of sh_t as well.

Posted by: NotStupidLikeLori | September 8, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

NoBama -- Palin hasn't had to answer a question on her own yet. At her speech the day after the convention, with McCain at her side, she NEVER LOOKED UP from the lines they gave her to read. She TOOK NO QUESTIONS. As soon as she gets debate questions, she'll be a deer in the headlights. Stop pretending she's qualified. Any idiot can see she's not. Why do you Republicans insist on valuing mediocrity above intelligence?

Posted by: Midwestern Mom | September 8, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Have you read what the hate crime bill has in it?? And he wants to sign it when it comes across his desk in the oval office.

Cops are already arresting men and women all over this country for handing out tracks or lit. that has anything to do with saying that homosexuality is a sin. Yes, Obama will support things like that. I have heard him say so.

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse


Sarah Palin is just the fuse.

"Bitter and clinging to guns and religion" is the bomb.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I am serving right now in the United States Navy and there is only one candidate that at this time is ready to run this country. THAT IS JOHN MCCAIN! George Bush wasn't the greatest president of all-time, no, but he was faced with more things than any president in the last 50 years. McCain is so much more qualified than Obama that is not close. Why elect someone who will raise taxes, not drill in Alaska, which will lower gas prices, and his highest position of authority is community organizer. If there are people still wondering who to vote for, I urge you to vote McCain in November. McCain is not afraid to stand up to his own party. He is going to bring America back to what it should be. He has a country first mentality and has picked a highly qualified person for Vice President. She recieved more votes in Alaska than Biden did when he ran for President. Biden also at the beginning of the election said that Obama was not ready to be President, but when selected as VP he suddenly has a change of heart and says the opposite. I hope I have made a point not to vote Obama in 2008. Thanks!

Posted by: Roger | September 8, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

I am serving right now in the United States Navy and there is only one candidate that at this time is ready to run this country. THAT IS JOHN MCCAIN! George Bush wasn't the greatest president of all-time, no, but he was faced with more things than any president in the last 50 years. McCain is so much more qualified than Obama that is not close. Why elect someone who will raise taxes, not drill in Alaska, which will lower gas prices, and his highest position of authority is community organizer. If there are people still wondering who to vote for, I urge you to vote McCain in November. McCain is not afraid to stand up to his own party. He is going to bring America back to what it should be. He has a country first mentality and has picked a highly qualified person for Vice President. She recieved more votes in Alaska than Biden did when he ran for President. Biden also at the beginning of the election said that Obama was not ready to be President, but when selected as VP he suddenly has a change of heart and says the opposite. I hope I have made a point not to vote Obama in 2008. Thanks!

Posted by: Roger | September 8, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

So, Lori, I assume you are an independant, then? (sarcasm)

Posted by: daniel | September 8, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Midwestern Mom wrote: "McCain is keeping her under wraps becuase as soon as he does that she'll embarrass the ticket and he'll be done for."

yeah, she really "embarrassed" the ticket last week, didn't she? (the Democrat ticket, that is...for underestimating her)

The Republican base is more fired up than they have been in many years. This is much more than just a bounce. The tide has changed...and the Dems are scared. This is yet another "surge" that will work!

Posted by: NObama | September 8, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Lori, read the constitution. Obama doesn't want to arrest anyone for preaching against sin. McCain want to arrest people for committing sins. If you commit sins, God will take care of you. It's not the government's business. Can you really have a husband who is a preacher, and at the same time be so ignorant of basic govenment yourself?

Posted by: Go God! | September 8, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Do you know why I voted for Bush 2 times? because he was the only choice I had. To vote for Al Gore would mean that I had to defy my conscience and vote for a man that would push so hard for all the things I hold dear to my heart to dissappear. The same was true for Kerry. The same holds true in this election. To vote for Obama means I have to forego my conscience and vote for a man that will have my husband arrested for preaching against sin. At least McCain will not do that >YET> I don't really want him either, but he is the lesser of two evils as far as I am concerned and with Sarah Palin he has become at least palateable.

Posted by: Lori | September 8, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I plan to go to heaven and not endorse abortion. Call 9-11

Posted by: Amado | September 8, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Religion in the wrong hands can also be dangerous!The Nazi's burned Jews,the romans killed Christains and the Christains burned people for being witches,and we were attacked on Sept.11,2001 for someone elses religous views!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

The New York Times

September 7, 2008
Op-Ed Columnist

Palin and McCain's Shotgun Marriage
By FRANK RICH

SARAH PALIN makes John McCain look even older than he is. And he seemed more than willing to play that part on Thursday night. By the time he slogged through his nearly 50-minute acceptance speech — longer even than Barack Obama's — you half-expected some brazen younger Republican (Mitt Romney, perhaps?) to dash onstage to give him a gold watch and the bum's rush.

Still, attention must be paid. McCain's address, though largely a repetitive slew of stump-speech lines and worn G.O.P. orthodoxy, reminded us of what we once liked about the guy: his aspirations to bipartisanship, his heroic service in Vietnam, his twinkle. He took his (often inaccurate) swipes at Obama, but, in winning contrast to Palin and Rudy Giuliani, he wasn't smug or nasty.

The only problem, of course, is that the entire thing was a sham.

As is nakedly evident, the speech's central argument, that the 72-year-old McCain will magically morph into a powerful change agent as president, is a non sequitur. In his 26 years in Washington, most of it with a Republican in the White House and roughly half of it with Republicans in charge of Congress, he was better at lecturing his party about reform than leading a reform movement. G.O.P. corruption and governmental dysfunction only grew. So did his cynical flip-flops on the most destructive policies of the president who remained nameless Thursday night. (In the G.O.P., Bush love is now the second most popular love that dare not speak its name.)

Even more fraudulent, if that's possible, is the contrast between McCain's platonic presentation of his personal code of honor and the man he has become. He always puts his country first, he told us: "I've been called a maverick." If there was any doubt that that McCain has fled, confirmation arrived with his last-minute embrace of Sarah Palin.

We still don't know a lot about Palin except that she's better at delivering a speech than McCain and that she defends her own pregnant daughter's right to privacy even as she would have the government intrude to police the reproductive choices of all other women. Most of the rest of the biography supplied by her and the McCain camp is fiction.

She didn't say "no thanks" to the "Bridge to Nowhere" until after Congress had already abandoned it but given Alaska a blank check for $223 million in taxpayers' money anyway. Far from rejecting federal pork, she hired lobbyists to secure her town a disproportionate share of earmarks ($1,000 per resident in 2002, 20 times the per capita average in other states). Though McCain claimed "she has had national security as one of her primary responsibilities," she has never issued a single command as head of the Alaska National Guard. As for her "executive experience" as mayor, she told her hometown paper in Wasilla, Alaska, in 1996, the year of her election: "It's not rocket science. It's $6 million and 53 employees." Her much-advertised crusade against officials abusing their office is now compromised by a bipartisan ethics investigation into charges that she did the same.

How long before we learn she never shot a moose?

Given the actuarial odds that could make Palin our 45th president, it would be helpful to know who this mystery woman actually is. Meanwhile, two eternal axioms of our politics remain in place. Americans vote for the top of the ticket, not the bottom. And in judging the top of the ticket, voters look first at the candidates' maiden executive decision, their selection of running mates. Whatever we do and don't know about Palin's character at this point, there is no ambiguity in what her ascent tells us about McCain's character and potential presidency.

He wanted to choose the pro-abortion-rights Joe Lieberman as his vice president. If he were still a true maverick, he would have done so. But instead he chose partisanship and politics over country. "God only made one John McCain, and he is his own man," said the shafted Lieberman in his own tedious convention speech last week. What a pathetic dupe. McCain is now the man of James Dobson and Tony Perkins. The "no surrender" warrior surrendered to the agents of intolerance not just by dumping his pal for Palin but by moving so far to the right on abortion that even Cindy McCain seemed unaware of his radical shift when being interviewed by Katie Couric last week.

That ideological sellout, unfortunately, was not the worst leadership trait the last-minute vice presidential pick revealed about McCain. His speed-dating of Palin reaffirmed a more dangerous personality tic that has dogged his entire career. His decision-making process is impetuous and, in its Bush-like preference for gut instinct over facts, potentially reckless.

As The New York Times reported last Tuesday, Palin was sloppily vetted, at best. McCain operatives and some of their press surrogates responded to this revelation by trying to discredit The Times article. After all, The Washington Post had cited McCain aides (including his campaign manager, Rick Davis) last weekend to assure us that Palin had a "full vetting process." She had been subjected to "an F.B.I. background check," we were told, and "the McCain camp had reviewed everything it could find on her."

The Times had it right. The McCain campaign's claims of a "full vetting process" for Palin were as much a lie as the biographical details they've invented for her. There was no F.B.I. background check. The Times found no evidence that a McCain representative spoke to anyone in the State Legislature or business community. Nor did anyone talk to the fired state public safety commissioner at the center of the Palin ethics investigation. No McCain researcher even bothered to consult the relevant back issues of the Wasilla paper. Apparently when McCain said in June that his vice presidential vetting process was basically "a Google," he wasn't joking.

This is a roll of the dice beyond even Bill Clinton's imagination. "Often my haste is a mistake," McCain conceded in his 2002 memoir, "but I live with the consequences without complaint." Well, maybe it's fine if he wants to live with the consequences, but what about his country? Should the unexamined Palin prove unfit to serve at the pinnacle of American power, it will be too late for the rest of us to complain.

We've already seen where such visceral decision-making by McCain can lead. In October 2001, he speculated that Saddam Hussein might have been behind the anthrax attacks in America. That same month he out-Cheneyed Cheney in his repeated public insistence that Iraq had a role in 9/11 — even after both American and foreign intelligence services found that unlikely. He was similarly rash in his reading of the supposed evidence of Saddam's W.M.D. and in his estimate of the number of troops needed to occupy Iraq. (McCain told MSNBC in late 2001 that we could do with fewer than 100,000.) It wasn't until months after "Mission Accomplished" that he called for more American forces to be tossed into the bloodbath. The whole fiasco might have been prevented had he listened to those like Gen. Eric Shinseki who faulted the Rumsfeld war plan from the start.

In other words, McCain's hasty vetting of Palin was all too reminiscent of his grave dereliction of due diligence on the war. He has been no less hasty in implying that we might somehow ride to the military rescue of Georgia ("Today, we are all Georgians") or in reaffirming as late as December 2007 that the crumbling anti-democratic regime of Pervez Musharraf deserved "the benefit of the doubt" even as it was enabling the resurgence of the Taliban and Al Qaeda. McCain's blanket endorsement of Bush administration policy in Pakistan could have consequences for years to come.

"This election is not about issues" so much as the candidates' images, said the McCain campaign manager, Davis, in one of the season's most notable pronouncements. Going into the Republican convention, we thought we knew what he meant: the McCain strategy is about tearing down Obama. But last week made clear that the McCain campaign will be equally ruthless about deflecting attention from its own candidate's deterioration.

What was most striking about McCain's acceptance speech is that it had almost nothing in common with the strident right-wing convention that preceded it. We were pointedly given a rerun of McCain 2000 — cobbled together from scraps of the old Straight Talk repertory. The ensuing tedium was in all likelihood intentional. It's in the campaign's interest that we nod off and assume McCain is unchanged in 2008.

That's why the Palin choice was brilliant politics — not because it rallied the G.O.P.'s shrinking religious-right base. America loves nothing more than a new celebrity face, and the talking heads marched in lock step last week to proclaim her a star. Palin is a high-energy distraction from the top of the ticket, even if the provenance of her stardom is in itself a reflection of exactly what's frightening about the top of the ticket.

By hurling charges of sexism and elitism at any easily cowed journalist who raises a question about Palin, McCain operatives are hoping to ensure that whatever happened in Alaska with Sarah Palin stays in Alaska. Given how little vetting McCain himself has received this year — and that only 58 days remain until Nov. 4 — they just might pull it off.

Posted by: WhyBelieveItJustBecauseMcCainSaysIt | September 8, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Religion in the wrong hands can also be dangerous!The Nazi's burned Jews,the romans killed Christains and the Christains burned people for being witches,and we were attacked on Sept.11,2001 for someone elses religous views!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Rottenkid..your thoughts are as rotten as your name. Are you Obama in disguise..you sound like either Obama or Olber-Obamaman..take your rotten thoughts to your self..You are fighting a losing battle.

This country is not ready for a Radical socialist at this time..

Vote McCain keep Obama Hussain out and get Hillary back in 2012

Posted by: hillarysupporter | September 8, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Warrior -- maybe you should go get a little education, then possibly you would figure out that your facts are incorrect. Oh, I forgot, Republicans don't like education. Be ignorant is a party platform.

Posted by: Liberal Elitist | September 8, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

She was in favor of the bridge to nowhere before she was against it, and actually kept the "pork" funding that came with it... There is actually a picture of Sarah Palin holding up a shirt that says "Nowhere, Alaska" when she was in support of the bridge. She also hired a lobbyist that got her millions in "pork" funds. Her lobbyist got 8 times the typical amount per resident for her small town. Then she mismanaged the funds building a hockey rink/stadium that is a financial disaster.

HIS campaign is completely run by lobbyists! How can he say that he will reform Washington? His Campaign Chairman, his Campaign Supervisor, and many, many more lobbyists RUN THE CAMPAIGN!

So much for the original mavericks. He wanted Lieberman, and his Lobbyist run campaign strongarmed him into picking Palin... How do you think he will act in office?

Lastly, what VP in the past oh, 8 years has been notorious for NOT talking to the media, or answering questions? Cheney visited us when we were stationed on an aircraft carrier in the persian gulf after 9/11. The guy didnt talk to us, didnt answer any questions, just read his script, and left. God help us if we have to deal with the same crap for another 4 years...

Posted by: daniel | September 8, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Another bad day for the Baracky Hussein Obama campaign.

Rep. Charles B. Rangel paid no mortgage interest on a beach resort property for more than 10 years, a lawyer for the powerful House committee chairman said yesterday.

Democrats for John McCain 2008.

Posted by: Dennis | September 8, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Liberals and other atheists seem to ignore that this country was founded by Christians on Christian principles, and Christians want it to stay that way. If you want a country free from religion, you should move elsewhere. Guns in the hands of free men are the only thing that keeps power hungry liberal socialist fascists in check. Clinging to religion is what people of faith do. Obama is a wolf in sheep's clothing. Wake up people.

Posted by: warrior | September 8, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

I hear a lot of Bush bashing from the Obama supporters. Hello? Bush is not running for office.
I don't hear a lot of Obama supporters saying anything about their candidate. Hello? Please give us a few good records of his. Good laws that he pushed? Pork spendings that he opposed? Stands that he took for the good of the country? Something or anything...

Dreams, hopes and promises without a track record to back them up can only go so far.

Speaking of Bush, the liberals seem to forget that both houses are controlled by the do nothing Democrats. Bush has kept us safe since 911, which I deeply appreciate.

Posted by: indi | September 8, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

hmm -- good point. If the Republicans win, we'll get both.

Posted by: Common sense democrat | September 8, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Who would think of a candidate for president with their mind on running for president without recognizing what it intells. Come on voters, Any person that has a mind to run has a heart to serve. Which means the president either serves the people or whether rich or poor or themselves. If it is God's will for America to remain "White Supreme," God the Father has not created all men equally. As far as the comments: all Democrats being atheist I think you should watch your mouth. The Repubs only say things to get your stupid vote!

Posted by: Marge | September 8, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

To the person who wrote anonymously, "McCain needs to let her talk to the media so we can find out more about who she is," how can you not have figured out that McCain is keeping her under wraps becuase as soon as he does that she'll embarrass the ticket and he'll be done for.

Posted by: Midwestern Mom | September 8, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

common sense democrat--
I think that an 'obviously unqualified' (your words, not mine) vice president is a hell of a lot better than an obviously unqualified president. Definitely.

Posted by: hmm | September 8, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I am so excited about the Race now that Palin is in the mix. I am a conservative leaning independant. Glad to see a conservative in the mix. Hard to find info on Palin. McCain needs to let her talk to the media so we can find out more about who she is.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse


Sarah Palin is just a fuse.

"Bitter and clinging" is the bomb.

Posted by: Hee Haw | September 8, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

If Obama had selected a VP running mate having Palin's lack of credentials, as I democrat I would have been totally embarrassed to support the choice, and would certainly not pretend it was a brilliant choice. For the life of me, I can't understand why Republicans act elated over McCain selecting an obviously unqualified VP running mate. It is quite evident that they want their party to keep the White House so badly that they would have pretended to be thrilled about whomever McCain picked. America -- Where mediocrity is worshipped!

Posted by: Common sense democrat | September 8, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Way to Go rottkid,She not only took the earmarked money,but after cacelling the bridge to no where she kept the money.when she was ask about it,she said she gave it to the people of Alaska!!And it was tax money that we all paid.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

It is amusing how these people who probably have never read the Bible through and think that John 3:16 is the mens room on the third floor are the same ones that love to tell us just what political agenda Jesus would have

Posted by: FirNDaBush | September 8, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Way to Go rottkid,She not only took the earmarked money,but after cacelling the bridge to no where she kept the money.when she was ask about it,she said she gave it to the people of Alaska!!And it was tax money that we all paid.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that everyone is saying that McCain and Palin will be exactly like the Bush administration. They are both known for their Maverick type personalities and they have both actually done something in their political careers. They are not ashamed or afraid to give their statements as to what they believe. You don't have to guess what they stand for. People WAKE UP, More taxes, bigger government and socialistic government programs are not what this country needs. We came over here from England to escape taxation without representation. And we are right back into it. Ask Obama what or how he thinks about anything and he will slide right around the issue. Remember the question that was presented to him as to when life happens? He talked for a few minutes and never did answer the question. He said his pay grade was too low to answer a question like that. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN??? McCain on the other hand said, at the moment of conception. You may not agree with everything they say or everything they believe but they do take a stand which is what this country was founded on, people who are not wishy washy. I say NObama!!!

Posted by: Doug D | September 8, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse


The race is flipping to McCain's favor.

I think people finally are coming to the realization we're not playing American Idol anymore.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1511
a one stop shop for Obama info that is updated daily

Posted by: rtfanning | September 8, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

All of these tit for tat, snippy-comeback arguments prove nothing. We have eight years of overwhelming evidence that republican ideology doesn't work. If you can't admit that, you're too far gone.

Posted by: Charles | September 8, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse


All you OBAMA emptyheads including Joan, TRUTH HURTS. The truth is OBAMA is a radical communist with ties to Racists,(Wright), Terrorists like Ayers, felons like Retzko. This guy is what evil looks like, Evil will do anything get elected.

Do not get fooled you pathetic ignorant Obamaheads. Wake up and realize who you are voting for. A radical communist Socialist who will hand hand over America to terrorists and communists.

Vote Mccain a true American Hero in 2008. Vote Hillary 2012 a true champion.

Posted by: Hillarysupporter | September 8, 2008 11:34 AM


You're a digrace..As lifted from Mirror on America..Here's the rebutal:

The lies just kept coming during the Republican Convention....

Below are some of the lies told by Sarah Palin

Sidenote: Palin didn't write the speech....it was prepared for her by Republican handlers.

Lie/Distortion #1: She claimed to be an advocate for Special needs children and presented the McCain/Palin Ticket as Shepards for Childrens health.

Fact: John McCain voted against expanding Schip to millions of American children. Remember the 12 year old boy who Republicans attacked last year? Here's a link to refresh your memory.

Republicans don't have much of a track record supporting the needs of children or the healthcare of Americans.

Lie/Distortion #2: She compared herself to Harry S. Truman (as a way of saying that he was from a small town too....and as a way to deal with the experience question).

Fact: Yes, Truman was from a small town in my home State. But before being nominated for Vice President, Truman had years of experience as an Army officer and Veteran of World War I, was a Judge, and was a U.S. Senator for a decade.

This woman can't be serious.

Lie/Distortion #3: Claimed extensive experience to be VP based on her time as Mayor of Wasilla Alaska, and her one full year as Governor. She claimed in the speech that she would explain what her daily duties were as Mayor... but she never got around to explaining.

Fact: The town of Wasilla had a population of about 6 or 7 thousand when she was Mayor. This is hardly proper preparation to run a Country of 300 million and to deal with a $3 Trillion annual budget....the biggest budget in the World. Pat Buchanan (who Palin once supported) and other respected commentators, and former officials agree....she's not ready. Even Karl Rove agrees; Palin does not meet the qualifications for Vice President.

Lie/Distortion #4: She stated that she has a track record of governing with integrity and goodwill.

Not quite, Mrs. Britney Spears of politics.

Fact: She is currently under investigation in Alaska for ethics violations...(also known as Troopergate) for the wrongful firing of her Public Safety director. Palin wanted the Public Safety director to illegally fire a State Trooper, Mike Wooten, who happened to be Palin's brother in law. Wooten was involved (and still is) in an ugly divorce and custody battle with Palin's sister.

As if that's not bad enough, before becoming Governor, Palin was involved in the firings of several Wasilla City officials... who she did not agree with politically. These city officials were not fired because they were not doing their jobs...they were fired for petty political reasons. Sarah Palin was also nearly recalled as Mayor of Wasilla.

Lie/Distortion #5: She is a reformer...and she killed the Bridge to Nowhere.

The "Reformer" title is a stretch...and the Bridge to Nowhere story is a lie.

Fact: In Alaska, Palin took full advantage of wasteful earmarks (when she was on the receiving end of the money). She also initially supported the Bridge to Nowhere...and was a big supporter of her mentor Ted Stevens... who was indicted recently on corruption charges. Palin was in cahoots with the same corporate donors who sent money to Stevens. See more on the Bridge To Nowhere from the Huffpost.

Lie/Distortion #6: Claimed that her efforts to develop Alaska's oil industry would lead the nation to energy independence.

Fact: We can't get that much oil out of Alaska...not enough to free us from foreign oil dependence. And even if Alaska had half the oil that would be needed for energy independence... it would take at least a decade before we would see any benefit...and even then, it wouldn't be a significant savings for Americans. The Republicans keep framing the debate...and making voters believe that more drilling today will lead to lower prices at the pump next week. That's not going to happen.

The best way to achieve energy self sufficiency is to use a broad mix of sources (including some additional drilling)... but the main focus should be to move from oil as a mainstay of our energy policy. That's old thinking. Breaking dependence on outside oil will eventually require an energy policy built around new forms of energy....alternative energy... wind, solar, hydrogen vehicles, new battery technology, ethanol, natural gas, nuclear, and limited clean coal resources.

Palin is looking out for Alaska when she is talking about boosting the oil industry there...she's not looking out for the U.S.

Lie/Distortion #7: Obama never wrote or sponsored one piece of reform legislation.

Well....she was partly right... he didn't write or co-sponsor just one piece of legislation on reform... he helped write/ or co-sponsored at least 3. All significant.

This woman is going to be worse than Cheney.... we will have fond memories of Dick Cheney by the time Palin settles in as VP.

Fact: Obama co-sponsored ethics reform legislation as a Senator in the State of Illinois. After entering the U.S. Senate... Obama co-sponsored a Bill curbing gifts and gratuities for members of Congress... He also supported laws that require more transparancy (supported a Federal Website for the public) so that voters can see how Congress is spending their tax money. There have also been other ethics Bills supported or sponsored by Obama.

Now if the old coot and his jump off gets elected and the Russians come bomb our areses and the USA looks like Mad Max, do not come to me to sign up for the miltary..A) I was in for 8 yrs and B) You Rethuglican hypocrites who didn't join the military and chant USA, USA it's your turn. You all need a dose of your own warped medicine..

Posted by: rottnkid | September 8, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Is There any sector(s) of the American
industry that doing good right now?
What about the farming sector? No body
mention this sector in this election.
I assume that they are O K - no complaint

Posted by: T N T | September 8, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

so, "palinisbush", what you are saying is, if mcain is voted in the world will end in 5yrs due to global warming and if obama is voted in, he will stop global warming and save the world? wow... i bet obama and all the dodocrats are really proud to have you in their corner lol

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

One can say the same about Obama, mps313

Posted by: Jack | September 8, 2008 1:29 PM | Report abuse

I think the American public has become besotted with celebrity and reality shows to the point that they don't know what is real anymore. Energy, taxes, education, war- look at what has happened over the last 8 years, what it has meant to you, and what it would take to make some sort of improvement, not empty slogans or posturing. People can call themselves mavericks or reformers or say they represent change but what does that mean in terms of real issues and policies. The only message I am getting from the Republicans is that they will cut a few pork projects and drill some more. That is not even going to make a dent in the problems we face. We need some new ideas and some progressive plans or we will continue a downward slide in the proverbial handbasket.

Posted by: mps313 | September 8, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Are you actually telling me you like the shape this country is in?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

yes i know where my momma is. do you know WHO your momma is?

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

George Bush must be your mother!I figured you for a A--hole baby

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

i like mccain. He's a maverick. But, Palin is George W. Bush. Born again, arrogant, decider, global warming denier... scarry! I already had 8 years of Bush, and now it's time for the media to cover the other political parties or independents. Give me a break. Globe is warming people. We have about 5 years to stop using fossil fuels or we are ALL GOING TO DIE.

Posted by: palinisbush | September 8, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

yes, i know where my momma is. do you know WHO your momma is?

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse


All of a sudden, the Obama lemmings are screeching "polls don't matter."

What's up with that?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

forrest gump... obviously your father?

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

The more I hear Obama supporters insulting the more I start to question Obama's stance. Palin has no experience, well Obama has never written a bill or played a leadership role like that. While Palin was a mayor and a governor. Palin is a religious fanatic and bigot, well Obama had reverend Wright and he has never fully explained why his middle name is Hussein. If it is not a big deal, why not discuss it. Palin will just help big business and the American elitists, well Obama is from Chicago and has a really high education. And for those who do not understand Chicago, the Daley Machine is a large elitist political group (we have an 11% sales tax in Cook County, the county with Chicago in it). Obama has deeper elitist roots than her. And issues like she supports teen pregnancy and she is not perfect? Well supporting the teen pregnancy is a lie, how many families go through tough situations. She is strong enough to support her family although her daughter didn't make a wise choice. That is actually something good in my eyes as it makes her seem human and that we seem to know about the real her. For the statement of: She will be four more years of Bush. She is not Bush and besides being Republican where do you guys get off on that? Has Obama been the constant thorn in Bush's side, has he been the one who was public for going against Bush in the conflicts and wars we go into? And lastly, someone please tell me something concrete that Obama has done for the United States. Please do not tell me he was a part of this measure, or he was a leading member of this team. He is running for office, of course the Dems will add him to any new helpful legislation in 2007, 2008. Tell me something from his past that is helpful. And by the way Obama, why is Cook County, the county that Chicago resides in, have the largest Sales Tax in the whole United States? Is this what you want to bring to the country?

Posted by: Jack | September 8, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

7x you must be 12,this conversation is for the big boys.Do you know where your momma is?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

It's not about being angry... it's about understanding what the Republican party has done to our country!... Why can't you see this???

Enough of this bickering!! It's not about Republican or Democrat it's about US!!!!

Posted by: Bob DUll | September 8, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Bush has ruined our whole country,if you dont see that,in the words of Forrest Gump,stupid is as stupid does!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

if you picked your wifes a_ _ you would find me lol

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

This "bounce" should also invigorate those of us who are beyond sick of the w Republican adminstration. We should insist that the news media not back down and do a total vetting of Palin. Also, we should insist that the Democratic Party fight fire with fire and respond with redoubled energy each time Palin and her fellow attack dogs lie and distort "facts". Finally, the Democratic Party should continue to talk about the real issues (economy, Supreme Court nominations, war, environment, religious and personal freedoms, etc.

Posted by: FLTNVA | September 8, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

funny how all the democrats are on here all day while the republicans are out working for a living.

Posted by: justanobsever | September 8, 2008 12:54 PM


uh..like you Ruthuglican? GTFOH.

Posted by: rottnkid | September 8, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

CNN Poll: Race dead even
Posted: 12:35 PM ET

From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser

McCain and Obama are dead even in a new CNN poll.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — A new national poll taken entirely after the end of the Republican convention suggests the race for the White House between John McCain and Barack Obama is dead even.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll out Monday afternoon has McCain and Obama tied at 48 percent each among registered voters questioned. Three percent of voters are undecided in the survey, which was conducted Friday through Sunday.

The CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll is one of three new surveys taken mostly over the weekend. The other two are a Gallup Tracking Poll and a Diageo/Hotline survey. When all three are averaged together for a new CNN Poll of Polls, the results have McCain up one point, 47 percent to 46 percent. That’s the first time in the CNN Poll of Polls that McCain has an advantage over Obama.

The battle for the presidency also includes some minor party candidates, including Independent Ralph Nader, Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr, and Green Party candidate Cynthia McKinney — but the poll suggests they don’t have any impact on the shape of the race.

When they are added to the equation, the race between McCain and Obama remains tied, at 45 percent each, with Nader and Barr at 3 percent each and McKinney at 1 percent.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

If I picked my a-- all i Would find is you!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

yep! voted for him twice and STILL smarter tha anyone voting for obamalamadingdong! lol!!!!

Posted by: justanobserver | September 8, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Caribou Barbi is a brilliant diversionary tactic brought to you by Karl Rove the puppet master that also brought you George W. the compassionate conservative. This lady makes Attila the hun seem moderate. On the issues all the issues the REpublicans are dead wrong so if you want more of the disaster then pull the lever for Mc Same Palin if you want change not some folks stealing the mantra then vote for Obama Biden. I for one wont forget that Mc War did not support the GI Bill and has been consistently against benefits for myself and my fellow veterans. Shame on you John shame. Dont let them fool us and put fear of non issues in us this time. vote your hopes not your fears this time America. OBAMa BIDEN Yes we Can!

Posted by: Latino Nam veteran | September 8, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

It's not about being angry... it's about understanding what the Republican party has done to our country!... Why can't you see this???

Enough of this bickering!! It's not about Republican or Democrat it's about US!!!!

Posted by: Bob Dull | September 8, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

DEAR AMERICANS THE CHOICE IS YOURS! VOTE FOR OBAMA OR MCAIN HOWEVER, THE WAY I SEE IT A WIN FOR MCAIN/PALIN WILL BE ASURE TICKET OF ECONOMIC DOWN SLIDE! WE ARE WHINNING NOW TAKE 4 MORE YEARS OF THE SAME AND WE WILL BE WORSE THAN THE RUSSIANS ATLEAST THEY HAVE MORE OIL THAN US!. CHINA IS DOING BETTER THAN US. DRILL HERE DRILL THERE WONT HELP MUCH!! WAKE UP AMERICA!!

Posted by: braggingrights | September 8, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

hey! guess what? i picked my nose and found my brain! now pick your a_ _ and find yours!

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

How do you know we dont all work nights?Moron!And I bet you voted for Bush Twice huh?Just how smart do you think that makes you look now?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Will the GOP Republican get rich by selling America party take credit for any of their disasters? GOP Republicans are successful at failing and hurting OUR COUNTRY in the eyes of the WORLD. Can we really afford to ignore what the ENTIRE WORLD THINKS OF US?


How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by Barack Obama? Extremely favorable.
How does the WORLD perceive AMERICA led by John McCain? Extremely negative.


Eventually, Americans will realize that doing the same thing (electing GOP Republicans) will not yield different results (stock market disasters, economic disasters, world view disasters, failed foreign policy disasters, failed domestic policies disasters).

Spraying perfume on a new GOP Republican Pig will not create a bright and shiny candidate. Garbage in equal garbage out. GOP Republican garbage in yield (stock market, economic, foreign relations, domestic policies) garbage out.

McCain has perpetually been a failure from school until now.
Palin has perpetually been a failure (with a hillbilly hockey mom accent) from day one until now. Her bear hunting Arctic outback kids prove it.

Do you really need someone to tell you these basic facts? Under the Freedom of Information Act, all of this information is available free if you choose to type in the questions.

Lets prove to the Europeans and the World that we are not stupid, because they think that we are after two terms of Forrest Gump Bush.

D Student Crash Every Plane McCain and Hillbilly Trailer Palin are not reflective of the American People.

If Palin had a brain, then she would have considered the immense responsibilities demanded of the Office of the United States Vice President or President; and politely declined McCain’s crack induced invitation. GOP Republican Party is a joke.


If FOX NEWS does not clean up it’s filthy RACIST acts of discrimination, then American and European audiences will B O Y C O T T FOX RACIST NEWS.

Posted by: Is it right to shoot bear cubs? | September 8, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Democrats showing their nature.. more and more mad as getting closer to election. With presidency they will ruine this nation with lefist programs. This year they have left leaning media but Repbulicans have people in their side.

Posted by: Tk | September 8, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

haha i was wondering how long it would take one of you simple minded dolts to come back with that predictable reply. i work NIGHTS so get off your lazy welfare collecting butt and get a job!

Posted by: justanobserver | September 8, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

If you Obama bombthrowers are freaked out by the poll numbers now, wait until the Bradley Effect kicks in on Election Day.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Crayons?heck just let them pick their nose,maybe they will find a brain while searching..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

What does the GOP base know about her? What the mainstream media wants them to know.
Is it OK with that base that she talks to AK Secessionists?
Funny I don't hear the broadcast media talking about that fact. Another inconvenient truth, no doubt.

Posted by: Matt | September 8, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Well your on here too huh?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Let's give all these Republicans some crayons to hopefully they can get their brain cell's going.

God... where did common sense go?

Posted by: Bob Dull | September 8, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Obama and Biden need to take of the #&$%%@ gloves and knock both McCain and Palin square on the jaw. These frauds make me sick. The next 50 days will shape the next 4-8 years of our life. America and the world would be better without the Repukican Party.

Posted by: john shermer | September 8, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Of course she invigorated the race! Here's why:

This is a very interesting read I found from an unusual and surprisingly religious perspective regarding McCain's choice of Palin. I highly recommend checking it out:

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 8, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

funny how all the democrats are on here all day while the republicans are out working for a living.

Posted by: justanobsever | September 8, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

An eleven-point swing in the polls to McCain in a week.

I knew the Democrats would screw this up.

They allowed Howard Dean to rig the primaries and they let him install the wrong candidate.

This is going to end up in a screaming crash into the ground.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

I know there are some intelligent Republicans out there. They've got to be embarrassed sharing a party with such neanderthals. Go ahead and destroy this country with your third term Bush/Cheney pick. We can't fight our destiny. We stand no chance as long as our country continues to decline in education, economy, and ethics. The fat lady is singing.

Posted by: Debbie | September 8, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Rural Americans: if the entire country followed your so-called "ethos", we would be in the same cateogry as Myanmar, Sudan, and all the poor downtrodden countries of the world. Rural Americans are rural because you have no brains and have to workd with your brawn.

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 8, 2008 12:30 PM


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History has seen its share of elitists and state-ists like you.

In places like the Kremlin.

And in the bunker with Adolph and Eva.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama talks about change but he selects Biden, a long time Washington insider to be on his ticket. Change we can believe in or BS?

The truth about Obama is that he says one thing and does another.

Posted by: janebiden | September 8, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

$300,000 clothes,yeah sure the republicans are just normal everyday people huh? 7 houses? yep,I cant hardly decide where to live myself..how about eveyone else?

Posted by: 1 | September 8, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Well, for those of you who like an economy sliding into deeper and deeper trouble, who don't mind sending your sons and daughters off to fight wars ( just or not ), and believe that religious persecution is the duty of government --- McCain-Pain are for you.

Posted by: wolf | September 8, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Rural Americans: if the entire country followed your so-called "ethos", we would be in the same cateogry as Myanmar, Sudan, and all the poor downtrodden countries of the world. Rural Americans are rural because you have no brains and have to workd with your brawn.

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 8, 2008 12:30 PM

You sure sound like an elitist. Like I said, maybe you can be part of the ruling elite in Russia or China. But I don't think you share our nation's values.

Posted by: janebidden | September 8, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

With racism (fear) deeply entrenched in their hearts, a great number of Americans seem to be on their way to vote again without thinking about the future too much. What a shame.

Posted by: Adisa | September 8, 2008 12:26 PM

I agree that blacks are racists. You have a good point. Obama wouldn't be in the senate if he didn't have 99 per cent of the black votes.

Detroit mayor Kwame Patrick wouldn't be in office if he didn't have 99 per cent of the black votes.

It would appear that blacks wouldn't vote for any other candidate if there was a black candidate running for office.

Maybe the liberal elite media should look into this.

Posted by: janetbiden | September 8, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Are Americans really so stupid they don't know that Palin is Bush in drag?

Good lord what a load of nonsense over a woman who flat out lied on her very first outing and McCain endorsed the lie.

Posted by: Marilyn | September 8, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Yeah with Palin we can all have moose meat on the table!

Posted by: 1 | September 8, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Rural Americans: if the entire country followed your so-called "ethos", we would be in the same cateogry as Myanmar, Sudan, and all the poor downtrodden countries of the world. Rural Americans are rural because you have no brains and have to workd with your brawn.

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 8, 2008 12:30 PM

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Then go get your milk, bread, eggs, meat and the rest of your groceries from Myanmar and Sudan, you elitist Obama loon.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Susan Eisenhower: Barack is the best choice (CNN Interview)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Kmsv8-Jzk&feature=related

When Dwight Eisenhower's granddaughter Susan said "Yes we can!" over 84,000 supporters at the Democrat Convention cheered her on and yelled "Yes we can!"

My Favorite Eisenhower Story From Wikipedia. Dwight could have been a Professional Football player?

At West Point, Eisenhower made the football team. He started as a varsity running back and linebacker in 1912. In a bit of a fabled match-up, he even tackled the legendary Jim Thorpe in a 1912 game.

Ike Eisenhower and Harry Truman Fans supporting Change We can believe in!

Obamacans for Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Republican Football Fan | September 8, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 8, 2008 12:30 PM

All I have to say to you is: one man one vote.

Not happy with that, well, you can join the Kremlin where a few idiots thinks that they are better than everyone else and make all the decisions.

Posted by: janetbiden | September 8, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Obamas candiacy is bringing a lot of racism out into the open, I was hame this past week and my dad who was deciding on voting for Hillary said Im not voting for no N workd and N word this And that. I was ashamed , I never knew this man my father to be such a racist prick. I confronted him and said dad you say you are not a rascist but you sound like one? Why isnt this talked about in the media, this is an issue that directly affected me unlike abortion or abstinence crap...

Posted by: Christopher | September 8, 2008 12:25 PM

You are being too harsh on your father in your blind support of Obama.

Blacks are racists and bigots too. 99 per cent of blacks voted for Obama over Hillary because of the color of his skin. Oprah is supporting Obama because he is black. Whoppi Goldberg is supporting Obama because he is black.

Blacks are racists. You have no problem with that but you condemn your father. What an ungrateful child you are.

Posted by: janetbiden | September 8, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Rural Americans: if the entire country followed your so-called "ethos", we would be in the same cateogry as Myanmar, Sudan, and all the poor downtrodden countries of the world. Rural Americans are rural because you have no brains and have to workd with your brawn. Do you really think you would catapult America into the 21st century? Do you really think that without the North, America would have been a superpower? It is the brains of the American men and women that made this country. After 8 years under s stupid president, you should realize that our power has been decimated. bush and cheney have squandered our wealth in 8 years. Look around you Rural AMericans. God only helps those who help themselves. Palin is a stupid woman who duped the ALaskans into voting for her. Palin used Religion to con the unsuspecting Alaskans what a cunning and vicious woman she is. Don't be fooled by this DZESEBEL

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 8, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Gov Palin is the proof that we need to show us McCain could be trusted to keep faith with his conservative backers. There is no doubt that he will cross aisles to get things done-- he's built a long reputation and been criticized most heavily for working with the critics of Republicans when most in the party didn't trust them. As far as results, the jury is still out as we aren't very enthusiastic over some of the resultant legislation (McCain Feingold, for example).
Palin is fresh, a great speaker, and Rudy said it best-- "the future face of the Republican party". I don't believe for a minute that the media or others will cut her a break or let her grow into the job, but last time the Republicans put in a VP with all the credentials ready to lead (i.e., Cheney), the president was painted as the puppet of the VP. As always, damned if you do or if you don't.
As far as the much-touted and highly educated Obama, he has the talk, but doesn't have the walk. Egg headed politicians tend to believe their own hype. I would much rather have a street-smart, seasoned candidate who loves this country than a vague talker who wants to lead us to an unknown change. I've read, "Obama is great on a teleprompter but not off the cuff". What worries me is Who is putting the stuff into his teleprompter? Who will Obama pay off once he gets into office? Who will he seek to benefit? It sure won't be middle America!
Bottom line, 3 weeks ago, we were worried. Now we have hope and will turn out to vote in McCain and Palin as the next president and VP, and the only serious candidates who could lead this country in a difficult world.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

A week and a half ago, most of you right wingers never even heard of Sarah Palin. Now you think she's ready to be VP!?!? And all because she did a great job reading a speech that someone else wrote. Now who's the celebrity lovers? It's a shame that many Americans are so shallow that they just mouth the slogans and positions espoused by the Rush Limbaughs of the world, and they don't even notice when the new talking points completely contradict the talking points from last month. No wonder this country has been badly adrift ever since the right wing figured out how to manipulate the system.

Posted by: view from the couch | September 8, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Idiot,if the name is made up!! why do it,you moron..

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

With racism (fear) deeply entrenched in their hearts, a great number of Americans seem to be on their way to vote again without thinking about the future too much. What a shame.

Posted by: Adisa | September 8, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Oprah Winfrey is a racist media pig.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:19 PM

I would tend to strongly agree with you. I am boycotting her stupid shows.

Posted by: janetbiden | September 8, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Obamas candiacy is bringing a lot of racism out into the open, I was hame this past week and my dad who was deciding on voting for Hillary said Im not voting for no N workd and N word this And that. I was ashamed , I never knew this man my father to be such a racist prick. I confronted him and said dad you say you are not a rascist but you sound like one? Why isnt this talked about in the media, this is an issue that directly affected me unlike abortion or abstinence crap...

Posted by: Christopher | September 8, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Obamas experience:He was a State legislator 7yrs.,a senator for 3 yrs.,hes been on the senate commitees for foreign affairs,and with enviroment and veterans affairs,health and education,labor and pensions and homeland security and government affairs not to mention chairman of the senate subcommittee on european affairs!! so I say he had alot more experience that Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Because his father name is Hussein....If your name is Michael named after your father. Does that make you Irish catholic?

Posted by: not_me | September 8, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has an average American family with average American family problems just like the majority of Americans. That makes her the best person to understand average Americans.

Obama is an elitist with not family problems.
He seems so perfect. Everything about him and his familty is perfect.

Unfortunately, the average American family is not perfect. An elitist like Obama is not going to understand us. He will most likely call us "bitter".

Posted by: janetbiden | September 8, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Take off the gloves, Democrats. Call out Palin as an immoral Evangelical b*tch who shoots at wolves from helicopters. this woman can only be brought down with her own tactics. IMMORAL CHEATING WIFE - THAT'S PALIN

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 8, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

M.Stratas says: "rural Americans: you have the opportunity to better your lives and remain poor and rural and ill educated. why do you blame the people in the northern part of America? They are provided the same opportunities as you are but the rural folks seem to like to wallow in pity and victimhood."

Oh lord, where do we start!? :-)

1. We have an incredibly rich and rewarding life -- we love to feel the earth between our toes of our bare feet :-)
2.The rural venture that is our life, is not premised by poverty or ignorance; rather a love for clean air, clean thoughts, and pubic servants that understand they will be held accountable for their words and deeds.
3.The thought fascists are mainly based in the north east -- as evidenced by M.Stratas contemptuous rant -- and are enraged at the notion that the rest of America has "chosen" not to genuflect to their bigoted manifesto any longer.
4.The cultural/animal husbandry ethos of the neo communist metro centric liberal has fostered generations of "victims" in the large metro populations nationwide. Obama is a made-man, a product, of the corrupt Chicago democrat hegemony. He has demonstrated no willingness to take on those who have allowed Chicago to become more dangerous than Iraq.

Mr. Stratas' complaint is the final act of the metro-bigot paradigm that has used national media to brainwash citizens into believing big government will pave the way to la-la land for them.

The secret to success in America is to get up in the morning and let your feet hit the floor on the way to work. Just ask any Asian family member. Asian Americans are notoriously ignored and discriminated against by the democrat party by the way.

Posted by: rural americans | September 8, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Oprah Winfrey is a racist media pig.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I believe Obama is a muslim otherwise please explain why his muslim father would have given him a muslim name like Hussein.

I trust Obama as much as I would trust a trickster.

Posted by: janetbiden | September 8, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Palin is FOR TEEN SEX, TEEN PREGNANCY, CHEATING ON HUSBAND WITH HUSBAND'S BUSINESS PARTNER, NO SCIENCE N SCHOOL, CREATIONISM ONLY, NO HIGHER EDUCATION. Palin is a hot mama who claims to be for abstinence only but she does what she wants not what she says. to all rural Americans: Congratulations on your choice of a hot mama.

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 8, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

ok "anonymous" i will stop believing everything i read from now on and believe everything you say lol. some fool to scared to make up a name and publish it. hahaha!!!

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Her husband also works for BP british petroleum,thats why she is for drilling in Alaska!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Obama is a strong advocate of Black Liberation theology. I wonder how much influence she had on Obama when she got him to attend Trinity United Church of Christ with that hateful Rev Wright.

Posted by: janetbiden | September 8, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

braggingrights is the epitome of just how stupid you people are. lets not vote in a VP because she doesnt have any experience, lets vote in a PREZ, that has LESS experience. wow, its frightening how stupid this socoety has become. i guess as long as american idol is on the air, and gas is under $12.00 a gallon, its all good lol

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama has never once said he was muslim!His father left when he was 2 and the only other time he saw him was a visit when he was 11.Dont believe the lies you keep geting in emails!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a naive and inexperienced one term senator and he is running for the Presidency.
That makes Obama a danger to this nation should he win.

Posted by: janetbiden | September 8, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has grabbbed the hearts and minds of blue-collar America. There are some other interesting things to consider in our consideration of the qualifications of Gov. Palin as our potential Vice President:

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/leonard-doyle-in-alaska-reputation-of-palin-is-still-whiter-than-white-918066.html

She is married to a tough first dude. “In the polite circles of the Republican Governors Association they call Todd Palin, 44-year-old husband of Sarah Palin, the First Gentleman of Alaska. But in the Anchorage newspapers and on the oil fields where he works for British Petroleum, they prefer First Dude. It is a better fit for a guy who will not be comfortable on the cocktail circuit of Washington DC, should the McCain-Palin ticket win in November. Mr Palin, whose grandmother is Yup'ik Indian, is an outdoors guy, who also has a commercial fishing business. He is best known as a four-time winner of Alaska's annual 2,000-mile snowmobile race, the Iron Dog Competition – completing in it this year with a broken arm.”

It is said Todd Palin is “quietly influential behind the scenes in Alaskan politics”. This really gets interesting, in that he is an employee of British Petroleum. I wonder how carefully he has been “vetted”? Could he be an Alaskan separatist?

Posted by: Albert F. Pate | September 8, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah,and I bet you voted for Bush TWICE,now just how smart does that make you look now? NOT TOO huh?The worse President in history!! WOW

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin would make a great VP and an even better President. There is nothing that the liberal elite media can do to prevent a landslide win by McCain/Palin.

Posted by: janetbiden | September 8, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

WHAT BOTHERS ME!! PALIN IS NEW IN POLITICS YET SHE IS TREATED BY THE MEDIA AS IF SHE IS THE ONE WHO IS RUNNING THE SHOW! WHO IS INCHARGE MCAIN OR PALIN? I WOULD TAKE MCAIN AS THE PRESIDENT ANYTIME BUT WITHOUT PALIN. WITH ROGUE NATIONS SUCH AS IRAN, NORTH KOREA AND PAKISTAN ITS DANGEROUS TO TAKE SOME INEXPERIENCED MAYOR TO BE THE VICE PRESIDENT WHO CAN ASSUME THE HIGH OFFICE ANY MINUTE!. PALIN IS A PRETENDER TO THE THROWN WHICH RIGHTFULLY BELONGS TO HILLARY ROTHAM CLINTON! YOU DONT REAP WHAT YOU DIDNT SOW UNLESS YOU ARE GREEDY LIKE ME!!

Posted by: braggingrights | September 8, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Are we expecting the president to drop dead? For America's sake I hope not.

Posted by: not_me | September 8, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

hey maureen, everybody thinks obama is muslim because HE SAID hes muslim you MORON. i guess he thought it sounded better than saying hes african american

Posted by: TOO STUPID MAUREEN | September 8, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

GO PALIN...GO MCCAIN...GO AWAY OBAMA...GO AWAY BIDEN....far far away.

SARAH PALIN IS JUST LIKE WHAT I WANTED TO BE WHEN I GREW UP, TOO LATE FOR ME...GO SARAH!!

I HAVE THEE UTMOST RESPECT FOR JOHN MCCAIN.

Posted by: WaabanoKwe | September 8, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Thats it folks.
Duties...
The formal powers and role of the vice president are limited by the Constitution to becoming President should the President become unable to serve (e.g. due to the death, resignation, or medical impairment of the President) and acting as the presiding officer of the U.S. Senate. As President of the Senate, the Vice President has two primary duties: to cast a vote in the event of a Senate deadlock and to preside over and certify the official vote count of the U.S. Electoral College

Posted by: not_me | September 8, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Do you realize the VP steps in if something happens to the Pres.?Thats what makes it important!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone realize the VP has no official duties except when there is a tie vote. They attend funerals etc. Why the fuss over the VP pick. This is a presidential elections not a VP election.

Posted by: not_me | September 8, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone on here relize McCain voted for an internet access tax?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse


SHOCKER!

John McCain grabs 4-point lead over Obama in new Gallup poll

Source:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080908/pl_nm/usa_politics_poll_dc;_ylt=Av_jBrld_ah7cumQKLIJ2.cDW7oF


**Oops, the Washington Post accidently forgot to report this.


Posted by: JP Vanderbilt | September 8, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Good one Chris!!
If we keep digging the hole these Bushies have put us in,soon we will be in China,Oops we already own them a ton of money that Bush has borrowed!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Why do people think Obama is muslim? Because he lived in Indonesia? I was born in Indonesia and am catholic. While it's 80% muslim not everyone is. And honestly it shouldn't matter.

Let's also not vote based on looks. We want someone effective. Just because someone shared your geographic background, doesn't mean that person will be just like you and promote your needs/wants. Hello? Wake up!

Posted by: Maureen | September 8, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

"Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager, said on 'Fox News Sunday' that she [Palin] would not put herself before a 'cycle of piranhas called the news media' until reporters started to treat her 'with some level of respect and deference.'"

This pretty much tells you what you need to know about Palin, McCain and their campaign. They want DEFERENCE. Like the kind of deference that was given to Bush when he invaded Iraq under false pretenses. They don't want to be questioned about whether their ideas ahnd decisions are right or wrong for this Country. They want us to take their "word" for it instead. Just defer to them and let them do what they want without scrutiny. Add that to their claim that this election isn't about the "issues" and I think its pretty clear what's going on here. Thanks, but no thanks.

Obama '08! Change begins 2009!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

oprah is running for any office that puts her "under" obama ;-)

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

So far Palin hasnt agreed to be on anyones show because she doesnt have the answers memorized yet,thats why she's still campaining with McCain too!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Actually - maybe Oprah won't have Palin on her show because she ISN'T that smart! She went after her own party and weeded out the corruption (because there were no corrupted democrats?). Unfortunately, after the past 8 years I don't think America is that smart. Hey - you elected Bush - he has been there the whole time and abortion is still legal! Go figure! And now he has put our economy in a place so low that the government has to bail our Fan n Fred...isn't that the LAST thing a Repulican wants to do? Doesn't that go against the premise of the Republican Party? How did you guys get us in to this spot...and you can't even see the forest through the trees!

Posted by: Chris | September 8, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

PALIN RALLY !!!! Check it out at the CBOT in real time the shorts are paying 300 Dow points higher to get out

The U. S. stock market {DJIN} was not expecting news from Mc Cain / Palin in the polls AND a resolution of FNMA & FRE over the weekend.
Check it out at the CBOT in real time the shorts are paying 300 Dow points higher to get out.
Left wing New York Democrat money managers are short and trapped
We could see 12,000 this week.

U.S. Futures Rally on Fannie, Freddie Takeover
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ayjUlfxAd5GU&refer=home


http://www.cbot.com/cbot/pub/page/0,,1560+chart,00.html?symb=YM&month=U&year=08&period=&study=&study0=&study1=&study2=&study3=&bartype=&bardensity=


USATODAY POLL: MCCAIN TAKES 10-POINT LEAD OVER OBAMA IN LIKELY VOTERS...


ZOGBY: MCCAIN-PALIN UP 4%...

GALLUP: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45%...

Posted by: rtfanning | September 8, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

What office is Oprah running for?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I remember going to Canada in 2001 to snow board...The dollar was strong then.
Now we are all wondering how far the dollar is going to fall.

Any religion should be left at the church. Palin is way to extremist when it comes to religion and that is as scary as a Towel-Head strapped with a bomb to them.

Posted by: Remember | September 8, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

When Oprah announces that she WON'T have Palin on her show she is trying to send a message to her audience, a message that she hates white women who are smart, Oprah should not have that much power, send her a message.
http://www.oprah.com/index

Posted by: Annon | September 8, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

haha, oprah dont want anyone smarter than her on her show. thats why all she has on there are has been actors and actresses lol

Posted by: NUNYER BIZNIZ | September 8, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Women, stand up to this racist phoney Oprah Winfrey send her an email tell her you want Palin on the show.
http://www.oprah.com/index

Posted by: Annon | September 8, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

All you OBAMA emptyheads including Joan, TRUTH HURTS. The truth is OBAMA is a radical communist with ties to Racists,(Wright), Terrorists like Ayers, felons like Retzko. This guy is what evil looks like, Evil will do anything get elected.

Do not get fooled you pathetic ignorant Obamaheads. Wake up and realize who you are voting for. A radical communist Socialist who will hand hand over America to terrorists and communists.

Vote Mccain a true American Hero in 2008. Vote Hillary 2012 a true champion.

Posted by: Hillarysupporter | September 8, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm not religious (don't go to church), nor do I have any children but I'm pro-life. I wouldn't vote for a woman, because she's a woman, because I have never seen a candidate of either gender use their sexual anatomy to make a decision or take action. I don't live in a rural town, I live in suburbia and have lived in NY, MD and TN suburbia all of my adult life. I like Sarah Palin and I'll tell you why she represents me. It's because I'm sick of urban snobbery and big city cultural values, lifestyle and mindset being thrust at me by politicians and the DC/NYC media, liberal and conservative. The national media is like Alices in Wonderland when it comes to talking about regular folks in suburban and rural America. Heck, they don't even ask suburban and small town newspaper editors for their opinions about the political vibe in suburban and small town America when they are in their states. If Sarah Palin was Sam Palin and had the same background and experience, I'd vote for him. But, the political toadies and media types are so hung up on gender and race in this election cycle, they can't see the forest from the trees. I think this election is going to be won by people who see an us against them election only the us against them isn't male/female or black/white but big city versus the rest of us. Perhaps in 4 years, Sarah Palin will be at the top of the ticket.

Posted by: LauraC | September 8, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Go to Oprahs site send her an email demand she interviews Palin,Women stand up for your beliefs.
https://www.oprah.com/ord/plugform.jsp?_k=_csrez5d0_k7ch

Posted by: Annon | September 8, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I find the American public stuck on promises of a better economy on well rehearsed speaches and very poor and non experienced foundations of OBAMA. It is very sad that America has not done enough research to find out that the Democrates have caused 90 percent of our economic problems. Go back to the silly Clinton economics and you will see.

Posted by: formcainpalin | September 8, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Two political parties is not enough to properly represent a nation of hundreds of millions, but with the current system the voters pretty much have to choose "the better or two" when the go to the polls. I want a political leader with an understanding of morality not derived from Christianity. As apparently every "realistic" presidential (and vice presidential) candidate during my lifetime will be of the Christian persuasion, I am more interested in candidates that focus on issues not firmly rooted in Christian "morality." I am not excited about Obama as president (except for the slim hope that America will perhaps stop caring about ethnicities, heh.) However, I am saddened by the thought of a "pro-life, gun-toting beauty queen" using the federal executive powers to lead the country I live further into a Christian society.

Posted by: Just another agnostic/athiest collegiate student | September 8, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Seems the republican way of thinking has trickle down our whole country.As we can all see the trickle down theory doesnt work.All the people that voted for George Bush twice and considering McCain remind me of the people on the Titanic,why get off the ship?the band is still playing huh?Well the rest of us dont want to go down with you..

Posted by: Oh-No | September 8, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

orca-i mean oprah wont have palin in her show because she is afraid of palin. she knows palin will embarass her...

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Oprah should also have put Joe Biden on, if she hasn't already done so.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Oprah should've put Palin on her show, and she should've shot tough questions at her on stuff like the economy and America's cities and freedom for women and respect for people in general, disaster response, and other things that matter to Americans.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Oprah is all about Oprah she is a racist and a bigot, she promtes what will promote her, she will use people and their misery to promote her show, she won't have Palin on her show because she is a racisit.

Posted by: Annonymous | September 8, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Hey Justada55+ when did wars become illegal you moron! Thats what they are, War. Not pretty, not playful, Not anything anyone should be in. However they have thier place to stop escalating conflict and minimize things like genocide, religious turmoil, and terrorism.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

criminal policies? illegal war? you people are scary stupid. not only should you not be allowed to vote, but you should be shipped off to some third world country, far away where you cant infect us with your incredible stupidity....

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Oprah Winfrey and all people like her have started the race war that will develop with Obama as president, they have made it a race issue.
If it were not then she would put Palin on her show and let the largest female TV audience see her. But she's white.

Posted by: A........... | September 8, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Who would believe the republicans would bring in the first true communist subversive to our government. The left should give this woman a chance.

Last year, 2007, Alaska's legislature approved a major tax increase on those windfall profits of the oil industry. The state of Alaska has received more than $10 billion this year from oil revenue.

Thanks to the addition of these new taxes, that is double the amount it received the year before. The idea on how to spend the money comes from Alaska's governor Sarah Palin. Her administration now gives $1,200 to every single Alaskan to help them pay for gas. On top of that, each resident will receive an annual dividend of $2,000 from an oil-wealth savings account. Think what a family of 7 could do with that money (Gov. Palin has 7 members in her family).

That's a fancy way of describing wealth redistribution , i.e., downright communism. And that is real change we can believe in. Will she do the same for the Lower 48 states?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

Secession party 6 months ago. 7 year membership

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PizrJLV30yI&feature=related

God will punish American – her pastor

Two months before the election we are not looking into her background and subversion of the U.S. No. we are preoccuplied with her instant celebrity status. Her coming interview with ABC morning talk show host rahter than a real reporter who spent a career investigating politicians is the biggest joke of all.

Michelle Obama says she is proud of her country for the first time, and the media goes crazy on her. This women and her husband are communits and secessionist, therefore the most unamerican couple to be elected and we are preoccupied with her being a soccer mom.

Well, in my state I want to know why Arnold Schwareznegger hasn't go those big fact checks from the oil companies for every citizen of California. What's wrong with him? Common Arnie, get us on that gravey train, too.

Posted by: basementfrog | September 8, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Palin's religious adherence appears to be to a strongly Protestant church stressing individual interpretation of the Bible - in other words, the focus is on individuality, as well as the Bible. I'm not entirely sure she'd stoop to theocracy, but she would likely start talking up "intelligent design" and other creationist theories.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

WOMEN, if you have an ounce of respect for yourselves, BOYCOTT the Oprah Winfrey show, call and write and tell those bised racists that keeping Palin from the biggest female TV audience is showing Oprahs true colors

Posted by: Annon | September 8, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Not all of New England is liberal. However Vermont makes up its fairshare for most of the northeast. We should Annex VT to Canada where it belongs. Then when everyone asks why we dropped a state, the true American Patriots of this country will stand up and say because it was un-American and undeserving to call itself part of America.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Lets talk about the RACIST black skin BIASED Oprah Winfrey who WON'T have Palin on her show because Oprahs in the Bag fro her BLACK buddy.
The Oprah Winfrey show is primaraly for women, shouldn't a women as obstensibly as important as the first Rep VP be allowed to talk to that audience. Any talk show host with an ounce of integrity would have the courage and fairness to put them on their show. But Oprah is a racisit, she always has played the racisit card never as clearly as now. She's a phoney.And now her's the proof.

Posted by: Spacecowboy | September 8, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Mcain/Palin dont' even have their own slogan! Mcain surely to want Democrats on his cabinet because he knows that the real change the Obama/Biden ticket is where the real change is going to come from. Bush-nomics is all MCain knows. And for all of we Evangelics, why has there been nothing done about abortions in this country, when the current president is anti-abortion? Why are the gays allowed to marry, when the current president dose not stand for gay right. Wake up America! Eight is Enough! We dont' need another term of Bush-nomics.

Posted by: Sooo Tired | September 8, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey MISCHL:

If you dont like religious extremist, then why are you for obama? if he gets in, this country will be filled with Muslim Religious Extremists. THEYRE CALLED TERRORISTS you buffoon!!

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Like Bush the Gov of Texas who could not
make a decision and failed everyone except rich oil,
rich friends and family, and top lobby friends....
Here we go again the Gov of Alaska who could not present herself for interviews because she is in response training....

DOESN'T ANYONE KNOW McCAIN'S STAFF ARE TOP LOBBY PEOPLE...HOW CAN ANYONE NOT CARE ABOUT THIS AND WHAT IT REPRESENTS FOR THE USA??????????????????????????????????????

She is having her speech written by George Bush's speech writers, and represents the big oil industry for billions in gas and oil exploration in ALASKA!!!

DO WE NEED ANOTHER 4 YEARS OF BIG OIL, BIG GOVERNMENT, BIG LOBBIES, AND NOTHING FOR THE AVERAGE WORKER WHO LOST JOBS TO CHINA AND OTHER PLACES DUE TO THE FIRST GOVERNOR'S IGNORANCE....

NOT TO MENTION A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE OPOSED AND DISRESPECTED, WANTING TO HAVE BOOKS SELECTED FROM THE LIBRARY TO BE REMOVED, AND NOT TEACH SEX EDUCATION BY THIS MODERN DAY EXTREMIST....SHE WOULD BE LIKE A TALIBAN IN THE WHITE HOUSE FOR SURE!
WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THE SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE?

I know many are still predjudice about skin color, race, religion, and gender preference in this country...But wake up America or the RICH WHITE MALE'S THAT RUN
THIS COUNTRY AND HAVE PRIVATE JETS AND MANY HOMES WILL KEEP STRIPPING THIS COUNTRY. THEY PLACE MUCH OF THEIR MONEY IN PRIVATE BANKS OUT OF THIS COUNTRY WHERE THEY ALSO HAVE HOMES AND SOMETIMES DUAL CITIZENSHIP!!!

I am writing this due to my own children and their future which I see being taken away by the fortune predators who are not
loyal to the USA, but to their lust for money using a cheerleader puppet like Sara to get it for them!!!

Posted by: DEB-Z | September 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Beware of sexy people that lure people to their doom, such as Sarah Palin. She wants to ban books and she wants to treat America like Alaska. Alaska is a nice state and all, but it has only one major metropolitan area, a lot of roadless wilderness, numerous isolated towns, and a very small population with an unique culture. America is more diverse, with higher population densities in many places and more cosmopolitan attitudes than Alaska does on its own. It has a dynamic that Palin might not be able to grasp at first. McCain probably knows more about America than Palin does. So do Biden and Obama.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Trashing the Republican Party probably won't lead to a McCain win but it could hurt Republican chances in closely fought local and state elections. I imagine Democrat strategist can hardly sleep because of the very real potential of a Democratic super-majority. In my state of Maine, I saw U.S. Senator Susan Collins, a Republican, at a parade this weekend and she looked so sad. She is a very sensible moderate with seemingly certain chance of re-election but the McCain trashing of the party seem to me they will hurt Collins. Can you imagine Republican incumbents encouraging McCain to campaign in their state????

Posted by: Thomasin | September 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

The Republican surge will fail, just like the surge in Iraq. Look at the cost you poor people have paid for eight years of an illegal war. If McCain and his puppy VP really mean to clean up Washington, impeachment proceedings should start now for everyone involved in this war before a new President is picked. Surely they can start that process now. Show America the Beef
Do it now, not after the election and perhaps, you the people can have comfort in real change, and vote accordingly.

Posted by: justada55+ | September 8, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

A message to Republicans:

I ask only that you consider that the last time you voted for a President based on religion and issues like abortion and homosexuality, we ended up with the carnage of George W. Bush. For those of you who still believe that he is a good President and did the right thing, I cannot reason with you. For the others, please consider that based on what we got last time, these may just be the wrong metrics to base your vote on. Of course these issues are important, but I hope that you will question your own judgment and ask yourself if these issues are how you really want to pick our next President and VP. I think if you reflect truthfully on what we will end up with, you will not pick the ones who are offering another four years of criminal and mind-numbing policies. Please think long and hard before you vote again. Peace.

Posted by: gf | September 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I am so excited about the Race now that Palin is in the mix. I am a conservative leaning independant. Glad to see a conservative in the mix. Hard to find info on Palin. McCain needs to let her talk to the media so we can find out more about who she is.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

If you watched the Republican Convention you saw Sarah Palin speak without a teleprompter. Her teleprompter malfunctioned. You did not relalize it, did you?

The one who can not speak without a teleprompter is Obama. He puts in alot of "you know" and "uh." That is why he does not want to have a debate with McCain without using teleprompters!!

Posted by: annnort | September 8, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Bill O'Reilly for president!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

what a waste of my time reading this one-sided garbage. i thought the media were supposed to be fair and impartial??

Posted by: 7x_champ | September 8, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

God help this country when McCain-Palin get elected.

Posted by: Coatesmoe | September 8, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Sadly, I had to take a razor scraper and remove the McCain stickers from my vehicle yesterday. Perhaps McCain had little choice in his VP pick, and he had to do what he had to do in order to win the election. But Palin falls into my category of "religious extremist," and because of that, I can't in good conscience give the Republicans my vote. This country used to be about freedom. A woman's choice about her body is a very important freedom. And the notion that a first trimester fetus is a human being is a religious belief, and has no basis in fact. Taking away an important freedom because of a religious belief is a step down the slippery slope toward theocracy. Religion has no place in government. In order to preserve the freedom of religion, a government must be secular.

Posted by: mischl | September 8, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Fannie and freddie in trouble,as is the auto industry,the airlines,the banks and the housing markets.Fuel prices are through the roof,food prices sky high,and people are considering another republican for the White House.My oh My,I cant believe people are willing to jump from the frying pan into the fire!McCain = George Bush,same Ideology and Views,both republicans that believe the same way!You vote for him,you deserve exactly what you get.The value of the American Dollar has dropped 40% with Bush,maybe McCain and Palin can supply enough moose meat to feed the country!It would beat what they are feeding us now.

Posted by: Oh-No | September 8, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I agree that palin is the best choice for the GOP. People vote based on how thwy fell.Obama makes me feel insecure.He has no executive experiece.I also believe that he is a muslim.I beleiev he will raise iur taxes.I also believe he would change our traditions.While traditions in and of themseleves may not be very important,they do sort of define us as to who we are in the world

Posted by: Leslie | September 8, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

everybody uses eachother in policitics but you know who is the innocent the american people.if you all dont see the game of fundermentals of politics no matter what race creed or religion you are its the rich against the poor if you dont do what i say i will take it away thats how dictators are born and in how the control the people.....we must pick exprience and understanding what we are going through and what were going through today and tomm and fix it not talk about it, that will be our president.....

Posted by: kim j | September 8, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

"rural Americans: you have the opportunity to better your lives and [or] remain poor and rural and ill educated. why do you blame the people in the northern part of America?..." - M. Stratas

I would gather that M. Stratas has never ventured into rural america ... they work hard, support and protect each other and believe in self reliance and responsibility ... they merely ask in return for the liberal elite of New England and the west coast to stop taking from them and giving to others.

Have you ever noticed that all athiests are Democrats just like all athiests in Europe are members of a Socialist or Communist Party. They all want to be rescued by the government instead of believing in themselves and something higher than themselves.

Posted by: zlato | September 8, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

McCain and Obama are both celebrities, they both flip-flop, they both promise "change", BUT they're both entangled into the same system which they want to "change". There'll be change, but it's not necessarily the change America needs. With either of the two.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Sarah is scary for many reasons, the 2 scariest being her pro-life stance. She is against abortion in the cases of rape and incest. Tell that to a 12 year old pregnant by her 16 year old brother. She is for abstinence only being taught in schools, and it was in Wasilla High School. Her daughter is proof that abstinence only does not work. She believes in banning books, would like creationism to be the science taught in schools and flip-flops on earmarks. This is who the US wants to be the next VP? Scary.

Posted by: Shallow Pharnyx | September 8, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Palin would make a better female president then Hilldog. I hope she gets president one day just to spite Hilldog the crybaby.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

The Republican Base in Afghanistan is called Al Queda.

Posted by: John | September 8, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Hussein Obama, community organizer. What is it? I know exactly what it is. Sharpton and Jackson have been community organizers for years. They go into a community and organize riots and infernos. Add Wright, Ayers, Rezko, Phlegher, Farakan, his maxist mentors at college, his radical wife, and you have the whole communist package. Is this the phony,lying,fraud, we want as President. I THINK NOT!!!!!
McCain,Palin win BIG!!!!!!!!

Posted by: frankv | September 8, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

McCain may be a maverick, but he's every bit an insider as Joe Biden, while Obama is practically as fresh a face as Palin. Insiders know how to work the system to try to get what they want. They know how to connect with the people. Is it any wonder they stay on year after year in Congress?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

TO Hillary supporter (NAME)

Are you ignorant or just plain stupid

Posted by: Joan | September 8, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Talking about Celebrity vs. Talking FACTS!

September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments. At the time, nearly 65% of people polled in a CNN poll indicted that "things are going either moderately badly or very badly in Iraq.

May 2006: McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities.

April 2006: McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

March 2006: McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.

A Military Hero, or McBush with 95% Bush Vote in Congress?
McCain "Supports Bush/Cheney Iraq War of Choice and Continued Oil Occupation... For Next 100 Years if Needed For Victory"!

McCain Does Not Care About American Soldiers and Their Families!
McCain ONLY CARES ABOUT HIMSELF!

Posted by: Realista | September 8, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Joe Biden is also a family person: a husband and father. Palin can be a bit nasty at times, or so I've heard.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Palin (Woman, mother, wife, CEO/AK) vs. Biden (Man, 35 year Washington DC insider, doofus). One blathers about change while the other truly represents a new change being brought to DC....And it ain't Biden

Posted by: Schratboy | September 8, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

McCain probably knows this country better than Palin does, and perhaps Obama (but I'm not sure). McCain has seen the megalopolis, California, and Arizona at least (but I'm not sure what other houses he has), Obama knows at least Washington, Illinois, and Hawaii, while Palin is west of the Mississippi in her stomping grounds (Idaho, Hawaii, Alaska). I wonder, however, if ANY of the candidates actually knows America.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Palin, is very pale. She came from no where rather than introducing herself to the American people she began to speak about and against Obama/Biden and we dont' even know who she is. What is she trying to prove? So, Palin has not been around as long as Obama but it is okay for her to come around with this big talk of who is qualified and who is not. Tell me who qualified her. Please, sit down Palin, you are no Hilary Clinton.

Posted by: Kay Kay | September 8, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I think it is insulting to us as the Voting public that Sarah Palin has not been put in front of reporters for questions so far. If she is ready to take this job from the day of her pick as his running mate as they say, then she should be ready to take question, or is it true that she is indeed not ready???

Posted by: Kelly | September 8, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans are using the same tactics as before but instead of using the GAYS they are using the poor and pregnant.

The rich don't care about abortions rights because they just take their jets and daughters to another country to have their abortions.

Posted by: Joan | September 8, 2008 11:00 AM | Report abuse

If you're a victim of brutal rape or incest,
"You will have that baby," Palin insists.
She's the Queen of Extreme,
There's no in-between,
A heartbeat away? Surely you jest.

Posted by: Diane W. | September 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

We have three things on the McCain/palin to vote for...........WISDOM ! STRENGTH ! TRUTH ! Is there anything else we need to make this country number one again????

An American who loves & believes in her country, Patti from North carolina

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

rural Americans: you have the opportunity to better your lives and remain poor and rural and ill educated. why do you blame the people in the northern part of America? They are provided the same opportunities as you are but the rural folks seem to like to wallow in pity and victimhood. Education is what made America great and powerful. America has led in science, medicine, engineering, politics etc. because our leaders pushed for the intellectual development of all Americans. Being pro-religion at the expense of scientific advancement is nothing to brag about. Did you think Landing a Man on the Moon could have been achieved by praying alone? Discovering the cure for Polio, tuberculosis and some cancers were not brought about by praying alone.

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Where are the Wal-Mart workers in all this? I want a candidate that supports Wal-Mart and other restaurant and store workers. Instead, we get support of the old fashioned industrial unions, without respect to the fact that America now has a service economy full of low paying store jobs.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has reinvigorated all Hillary supporters that were angry at NObama's rejection of Hillary as VP. We now have a choice that will benefit our country and will make women equal partners in governance.

Country First!
Hillary supporters for McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Manolete | September 8, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

"AKwatchman said, "It is fundamentally hypocritical of McCain and Palin to push an agenda they know they cannot accomplish in a Democratic Congress. Winning the election is not enough... McCain and Palin are four more years of rancorous gridlock.""

The Democrat Congress is freaking joke. There are more self serving individuals in that Congress than ever I think. They are supposed to represent the people but so far all I've witnessed is them trying to push bills through that do nothing but either increase taxes on everyone or put limitations on our liberties and personal freedoms not to mention hindering energy development. The day will come when WE THE PEOPLE finally have had enough and we fire the whole lot of them and start over. All we have to do now is grow a set..

Posted by: MrPitchfork | September 8, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

The message sent? McCain has no interest in bipartisanship. When it comes time, he'll rvert to the same old divisive, culture war attacks perfected by Rove and implemented by Rove protegee who's running the McCain campaign. Screw governing, fight the culture wars and divide America. Great message. Just what America needs.

McCain, more of the same old same old.

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 8, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

nn

Posted by: Kay Kay | September 8, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

to those that are not Evangelical:

Save the USA before the US Taliban takes over
What next book burning.
vote democrat!

Posted by: jon | September 8, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Rove and Scmidt are attempting to brand our mainstream media, our favorite pundits and writers as “Piranhas!” which only means one thing The Republicans are trying to steal the fish pet Voters or the Nature Lover's Vote? Or is this a Rove, Schmit and Davis Freudian Slip – They chose Piranhas - deep down they see themselves as Piranhas?

Democrats are courting all Republicans and Independents Goldfish, Dolphin and Killer Whale fans!

Trained Goldfish Performs Amazing Tricks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buQKZOaB6cY

Dolphin play bubble rings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMCf7SNUb-Q

Killer Whale and Trainer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpZFfzDg5nQ

Change we can believe in.

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Eagle Ch’áak’ Ora | September 8, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Obama without teleprompter on ABC with Stephenopolous said" MY MUSLIM FAITH". He was talking truth for the first time. See what happens when there is no prepared speech to Barrack Hussain. TRUTH HURTS. OUCH..
Do not vote Communist, please vot for Capitalism and free markets and entrepreuneurism.
vote Mccain 2008, Vote Hillary 2012

Posted by: Hillary supporter | September 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse


Democrats my very well be in control of the House and the Senate, but the God I serve is control of their hearts, so His will will be done when John McCain and Sara Palin wins.

And by the way, I enjoy clinging to my Guns and my Religion.

Posted by: Michael Wright | September 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

This is Bush 2000& 2004 all over again. God help us!!

Posted by: Timus, Powder Springs, GA | September 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Voting for Barack Obama is gambling with the certainty that he will serve as the President of the United States.Even if you like the ticket,surely this man is not qualified to be the leader of the free world, not because he is black. but because in his short time as a senator, his main focus has been on running for President...not on the national, congressional issues which would require competent leadership.

Posted by: NObama | September 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

"But Larry Sabato, a University of Virginia political scientist"

A left wing Dimrat shill is more like it. Why this hack gets any credibility, I'll never know. Larry's no more than a dog pile stinking up The Lawn of Mr. Jefferson's University, IMHO.

Posted by: Groucho Marxist | September 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

The problem with conservatism is more with the fiscal conservatives than the social conservatives. Social conservatives like issues that affect a few people, often on the margins of society as a whole, such as people in love with others of the same gender or unborn babies. The fiscal conservatives, who want to restrain spending that might benefit the economy, are using social conservatives as a cover. That's not right for working-class America. Where's the centrist party?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

How long before the MSM finally reports that McCain and Palin are having an affair?

Posted by: Danny | September 8, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Yes, I am so excited about the Race now that Palin is in the mix. I am a conservative leaning independant. Glad to see a conservative in the mix. Hard to find info on Palin. McCain needs to let her talk to the media so we can find out more about who she is.

Has anyone else read this story about a possible Affair Sarah Palin had? That is just one of the Scandals listed at this site. http://www.hotpres.com

This site has the inside scoop about the Palin Dui Secret, http://www.duihelpguide.com Why hasnt the news covered this?

This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio, Pics, Videos, Alot of Polls like how many people actually think that she is attractive? http://www.theveep.com

Despite all of this, and her lack of experiance she would probably make a much better president then McCain., Because like Obama she hasnt been corrupted by washington yet. We should probably reverse the ticket Palin/McCain.

Posted by: Peter | September 8, 2008 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I'm not sure Palin can live up to her own hype. That's why the Republican's are carefully trying to manage the public's perception of her.

Posted by: Timus, Powder Springs, GA | September 8, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

I am from a rural area and rural folks would be a fool to vote for someone who does not understand the struggle. Gas prices, food cost and the lack of employment are impacting cities but they are critical in rural America. If we waste a vote on someone who does not have a clue then when gas shortages and food shortages began to impact families(shortages because we can't afford either), then will this "lady" have a clue?

Posted by: Marie | September 8, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

McCain-Palin is going to crash nationally. The white poor will remain white and poor and ill educated. Palin has not even graduated from college, a liar and the creation of Rove and his acolytes. McCain, the eternal POW, will fade away because of his stupidity.The young people of America are not going to go the path of the old bitter folks. America is already #29 among industrialized countries on the issue of educated electorate. Do we really want two bottom of the barrel (McCain was #890 out of 895 cadets and Palin wandered into five (5) 3rd rate colleges and maybe did not graduate) people leading America? Obama has an intelligence and judgment that will work for the improvement of America.

Posted by: M. Stratas | September 8, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as a running mate has indeed energized the conservative base of the Republican party. That support has been further galvanized by the MSM and leftist attacks on her character. This has exposed their agenda and bias to many Americans who had not noticed, or cared about it in the past.

Sarah Palin represents a real turning point in this campaign, and in our nation's future.

McCain/Palin '08!!!

Posted by: NObama | September 8, 2008 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Voting for John McCain is gambling with the imaginable possibility that Sara Palin could one day have to serve as the President of the United States.Even if you like the ticket,surely this women is not qualified to be the leader of the free world, not because she is a woman, but because she has never focused on the national, congressional issues which would require competent leadership.

Posted by: Roz Callahan | September 8, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Yes, it is true. Jesus Christ was a "community organizer" (to simplify it for this argument) and Pontius Pilate was a governor. But it is also true that Jesus Christ never wrote 2 memoirs about himself and he never campaigned to be Emperor. If Obama wants to wash feet, feed the multitudes, heal the sick, and sacrifice his life the spiritually bound, I'm all for it. He can start emulating the real Messiah as soon as this election is over.

Posted by: dcp | September 8, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Good job, beautiful collection of bias.

Posted by: old mo | September 8, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse


I don't think it's only the conservative and religious base voters who are attracted to Palin.

There'll be a lot of rural and small town voters wanting to go to the polls for her.

And after Barack Obama described those people as "bitter" and "clinging to guns and religion," I really don't know why anybody living outside the city limits of anywhere on this country would vote for him.

Now, Palin gives them a reason to vote AGAINST him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

We view Sarah Palin's appearance on the political landscape with much satisfaction.

There is a condescending notion harbored by the North Eastern publishing hegemony, that rural people cannot fathom the complexities of world problems. Nothing could be farther from the truth. In fact, we believe that public servants from rural districts are uniquely qualified to adjudicate and arbitrate the issues with a fair and un biased hand on the rudder.

Sarah Palin will be a fine Vice President and even better president should she continue her well-earned ascension as a public servant.

Posted by: rural americans | September 8, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

is this the base that voted for Bush?

Posted by: Jeff | September 8, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

I don't think it's only the conservative and religious base voters who are attracted to Plain.

There'll be a lot of rural and small town voters wanting to go to the polls for her.

And after Barack Obama described those people as "bitter" and "clinging to guns and religion," I really don't know why anybody living outside the city limits of anywhere on this country would vote for him.

Now, Palin gives them a reason to vote AGAINST him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

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