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A new Washington Post-ABC News poll gives Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama a nine-point lead over Republican nominee John McCain. This lead, Dan Balz and Jon Cohen write, is attributable in large measure to "turmoil in the financial industry and growing pessimism about the economy."

Their story has produced hundreds of comments. Obama supporters are cheering; McCain supporters are attacking polling generally and the Post and ABC for reporting the news. Some of our Readers Who Comment provide rational analysis. But many simply hurl insults at each other, the kind of rambling pointless string that sheds little light. Some attack Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Pallin for avoiding the press, (although Katie Couric has the second major TV anchor interview coming up tonight on CBS).

The Post-ABC poll tests the national popular vote, not the electoral college, which elects the president. And this morning National Public Radio says that its poll shows Obama and McCain even in the swing states. This map is helpful if you're trying to keep score. The first debate between the presidential candidates is Friday. We still have a ways to go.

We'll start with some of the comments that attack the poll and/or accuse the Post of spinning its coverage in favor of Obama.

tennismom said, "...I love the way the Post spins this. Yes, THIS poll gives Obama a 9-point lead in dealing with the economy, but that's not his overall lead.
McCain leads in leadership, and as commander-in-chief. There are other polls showing the race in a statistical tie...Does anyone think the Post wants Obama to win?"

michele4 wrote, "Let us consider the source where this poll came from...seriously! Maybe if these two media sources would actually report the news instead of being in the tank for Obama the American public would actually know the truth about what the Dems have done...this mess started with Jimmy Carter!..."

sweetlandoliberty said, "Yet another attempt by WAPO to manipulate this election... Obama, who has barely talked about the economy throughout his campaign, all of a sudden has the cure for what ails it, and voters are suddenly flocking to hear his great wisdom? We shall see after the debates."

harkadahl wrote, "Its nice to read good news but seriously, polls are toxic. They are contaminated by inaccurate language, debatable collation and political meddling... Polls are so approximate as to be virtually meaningless in anything other than an impending landslide (and even then they screw up)."

And BUSHWACKER said, "These polls mean nothing, nobody has ever talked to me or anyone I know... you can't trust what you read anymore."

Now to some other comments.

Scruffy1970 wrote, "It does not mean Obama will win."

And alance points out that "...What is interesting are the swing states more or less even, plus or minus 2 or 3, all within the margin of error. Eight years of Bush and a roller coaster stock market, and Obama is only ahead just a little. What is wrong with Obama?..."

jayjay9 said, "All it takes is a crisis to bring out the worst in the electorate. No matter how lacking McCain might be in matters economic, he at least shows up for votes and has a record... This is a disaster in the making, even worse than the disaster that has given him the 9 point lead."

Honest_Abe cheered, "...This further confirms that 2008 is not 2000 or 2004. Democrats are going to win this time. Yes we can!"

adiantrrosa wrote, "Although I can't figure out what is in the minds of that 9% that see the economy as good, it is astonishing that a 14% of the population is totally dumb when they think we are going in the right direction..."

abigsam said, "I'm glad America trusts Obama more on the economy. I don't trust McCain on ANYTHING, especially foreign policy which is supposedly his strong suit. I've spent more time interviewing lawn care workers than McCain did his VP choice."

SoldiersMom wrote, "Voting for Obama & praying for FDR"

elmerg, commenting on Sarah Pallin, said, "You can put lipstick on a pig but you can't make it do press conferences."

HughBriss said, "...Sarah Palin made an excellent distraction for a few weeks but after a month of delivering the same speech over and over while hiding from the press she's looking like a defective robot, not a promising new leader."

bellasweetpea3 wrote. "At the end of the day people are going to vote for who they want to vote for. I just hope that people think about our soliders in Iraq and our children of the future. What kind of economic future do we want to leave the next generation and how are we going to bring our troops home."

wmboyd wrote, "There is (and should be) an obvious fear of Gov. Palin becoming President Palin.... She's failed to demonstrate any grasp of national issues; particularly the two prime issues: economy & Iraq..."

millerroberta said, "If Americans vote for Obama because he thinks he will help them out of the economic crisis then the country is in worse shape than I thought..."

birvin9999 asked, "And what exactly would Obama do?? Spend MORE, of course. Incredible."

But hartman_john said, "As the government (administration) continues to propose more "Maverick" style management of the current financial meltdown, it should come as no surprise that voters demonstrate their weariness with this "go it alone" mentality... Hopefully Obama can be a wise leader."

We'll close with morningglory51, who wrote, "I do not like either one of them. Neither of them are discussing how to deal with the current deficit, fraud and abuse and how to deal with in in the health care system or effectively deal with illegal immigration..."

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  September 24, 2008; 9:35 AM ET
Categories:  Economy Watch , McCain , Obama , Presidential Politics  
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The first George Bush did not leave Clinton with an economic mess. The Senior Bush balanced the budget, then Billy Bob Clintonian took credit for it.

Then 'Billy Bob' let the Tech Crash happen on his watch, which left a sour economy for Bush II.

The economy left by Clinton would have been even worse if 9/11 had happened during his presidency (and it sort of did, Clinton had the best chance at bin Laden and he failed).

Read Billy Clinton's speeches as to why he bombed Iraq. He probably would have done the same thing Bush did. The below links prove the point.

---Bill Clinton’s own words---

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/

Chow now Libs !!

Posted by: Da Truth | September 29, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed at the Republicans who call Senator Obama an "empty suit." Have they listened to our current president? George Bush is an empty suit, if not outright mentally challenged. Senator Obama is a Harvard Law School graduate (that says something in and of itself), who has practiced law, and who is now a United States Senator.

And dare we mention Sarah Palin, a JOURNALISM major, who is sadly and amazingly inarticulate. She can't string three coherent words together. Her interview with Katie Couric made me feel sorry for her and for America and the world because she has a very real chance to be the next leader of the free world.

Palin took SIX YEARS to graduate from five schools that many people have never heard of, while majoring in Journalism, not the most rigorous curriculum. Whether you like her or not, she's not that bright. Why else would she continue to insist that the mere proximity of Alaska to Russia and Canada gives her foreign policy experience?

Senator McCain BOASTS that he was number 894 of 899 in his class at the Naval Academy. When did that become something to be proud of?

What happened? When did we start celebrating mediocrity (894 out of 899 is not even mediocre) and demonizing intelligence? I am stunned and disheartened when I hear Senator Obama criticized as elitist because he is intelligent and well-educated.

Moreover, both McCain and Palin seem to be impulsively decisive, even in the face of uncertainty. I don't want McCain or Palin shooting from the hip on decisions that affect my LIFE, such as nuclear war, abortion, regulation of financial institutions.

Who in their right mind would want a "regular guy" to make the decisions that could lead to nuclear war and the end of life on earth? Moreover, a regular guy who has shown himself to be a person who makes impulsive, poorly-thought-out decisions: the last-minute choice of Sarah Palin, the hasty decision to "suspend" his campaign, and the hasty decision--shortly thereafter--to "un" suspend his campaign. A man who BOASTS that he has a history of fighting with his own party--the Republicans. Dare we hope that this man will be able to form bi-partisan alliances with the Democrats? Twenty or thirty years of McCain's history say "NO."

McCain obviously doesn't like Senator Obama and couldn't bring himself to look at Senator Obama during their debate. He looked, sounded, and acted like a sulking, churlish, petulant child during the debate. "I don't like you, I don't want to be here, and I hope you know it!" If he couldn't control his feelings in the context of a debate, how will he manage to do so on the world stage? Can we trust him to speak on our behalf? I don't think so.

I have an MBA from an Ivy League school and a law degree from a well-respected state school. I have studied finance, accounting, macroenomics, and microeconomics. Economic policy is a complex subject. Diplomacy is a discipline in and of itself. We live in a dangerous world, and we need the smartest, most deliberative people we can find to guide us through the minefield that is our lives.

Barack Obama graduated from Columbia University where his grades were good enough to win him admission to Harvard Law School. At Harvard, he was president of the Law Review, a prestigious position that he won based on his grades and his writing skills. After graduating from Harvard, he worked for Sidley & Austin, a prestigious law firm; then he worked as a community organizer, when he could have earned much, much, MUCH more money in a firm like Sidley & Austin(a move that truly embodies the spirit of "America First"); and he is now a United States Senator.

Senator Obama is a calm, deliberative decison maker, who is highly intelligent. I will sleep soundly if Senator Obama is the one who answers that 3:00 am call. I won't if Senator McCain or, God forbid, Governor Palin answers the phone.

Governor Palin can't think on her feet in the best of times. (See her Couric and Gibson interviews.) Imagine her decision-making process after having been awakened at 3:00 am!! And Senator McCain is churlish, vindictive, and impulsive, a fact that he is proud of. Who knows what he would do?

America ought to be offended that Senator McCain was cynical enough to foist Governor Palin on us in the name of politics, believing that the religious right and Hillary supporters would follow. I for one do not believe that Hillary supporters are stupid. They will not vote for someone who believes that women should be required to carry to term a child of rape or incest. The religous right will follow its collective conscience.

Senator Obama is an "empty suit?" What??!!!

Posted by: Hollig | September 29, 2008 2:04 AM | Report abuse

WE all can only hope that the polls mean Obama does win. The first Bush nearly put us into a recession, and in 6 months Clinton cleaned it up. I am a Realtor, and know how much money people lost in the late 80's. Now, it is going to take a Democrat to clean up the gluttonous mess we are into now. There is not one redeeming factor about the condition of this country now. When I've been in Europe all of the their news stations think "our" country is a joke. They mock that we allow these fools to run "our" country into the ground and then vote for them again. Are you people nuts????
How about his Palin??? Where did the find her STEPFORD, Alaska. For God's sake, wake up!! We have NO world allies, NO money, a war based on nothing but LIES! Get rid of cancer. It's time for a new start.
And, will somebody please tell McCain, that being 5th from the bottom of your class is not something to be proud of, especially when you've been fed with a silver spoon.
WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!

Posted by: Rose | September 28, 2008 3:29 AM | Report abuse

this woman is not very intelligent:

COURIC: Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries; allow them to spend more and put more money into the economy instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health-care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health-care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we've got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that.

what is she 'attempting' to say?
gawd help us...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 27, 2008 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I cannot trust or believe in the McCain/Palin ticket or the Republican Party. We have a party that for the last 40 years or more has fought to deregulate the banking/investment/mortgage industry, in fact, most of the business world, without any kind of oversight. The Party of fiscal responsibility is now responsible for the largest financial crisis in history--the closest we have come to another Depression. The so-called champions of free and unfettered trade now promises to protect the taxpayer. Sorry, that is hard to swallow since most have been in the Senate/Congress for many years. The Bush administration will go down in history as the worst in history and sorry, Laura, time will not vindicate your husband. How can we trust a party that has left this country in shambles? How can the expect the nation to believe or trust them ever again. To Make matters worse and to prove what poor judgement they have they pick Sarah Palin for VP! Need I say more.

Posted by: Ann M. | September 27, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

palin:
from a neocon blog http://www.neoconstant.com/1309/another-palin-apostate/

She is not as smart or disciplined as Barack Obama. If she were, she would sound better than she does at this point. And the McCain team has done absolutely nothing to defuse these problems — nor, to be honest, has Palin herself apparently learned the first thing about successfully finessing questions she is not ready to handle.

Palin is mediocre, again, regurgitating talking points mechanically, not thinking. Palin’s just babbling. She makes George W. Bush sound like Cicero….

…I am well and truly embarrassed for her. I think she’s a good woman who might well be a great governor of Alaska. But good grief, just watch this train wreck.

So I was wrong. I was just plain wrong about Palin. And so was McCain, though he can’t admit it now. Kathleen Parker said it best:

Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first.

Do it for your country.

these quotes are all from neocons!


Posted by: Anonymous | September 26, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Just LOOK around YOU !

Piss-Poor State-Craft...
A Bungled Economy...

Is this the America you remember growing up?
So where does the Buck Stop NOW ?

Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | September 26, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Winning is defeating the enemy!

No wonder this country is so screwed up, some people don't know what winning is, and thus, don't know how to win.

They know how to whine!

Posted by: Brian | September 24, 2008 10:03 PM

____________________________________
no one is 'winning'
100'000's of dead is not 'victory'
too many john wayne movies...

we are less safe that we were...
ask any general...

maybe we should nuke everyone but white american christians...kill me too though, that would be hell on earth

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

If Europeans are so intelligent then how did they sit there for years and watch Hitler build his forces and seem clueless about what was about to happen (that goes for most of Europe and many other nations also). The US should not have had to come over and save them. They should have risen to the occasion and saved themselves, but they were clueless, or worse and turned away to avoid looking at the obvious.

“Peace In Our Time”………………yeah boy !!

Europeans were as clueless as Obama (yo mama) ‘The Inexperienced One’, and Biden (the gaff man). Biden seems so confused at times that he is not sure where he is.

Yeah, O’Biden will be great on the world stag.

Chow now.

Posted by: Da Truth | September 25, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how many of you libbies remember that the Tech Crash of 2000 happened in 2000.

That means that all that corruption, and economically detrimental events happened on Billy-Bob Clintonian’s watch (when was the last time our grand-illustrious media has reminded people of this).

This all helped to cause an economic downturn that Bush had to clean up. An economic downturn that lingered on most of Bush’s first term. Bush did not hesitate to prosecute those guilty CEOs either (so much for the contention by the Demi-Dems that he is in the corporate communities back pocket).

So much for the contention that Clinton left us with a sound, quality economy.

Posted by: Da Truth | September 25, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

To those who want to know the truth about Saddam Hussein's Iraq read Bill Clinton's own words as to why he bombed Iraq.

One wonders why the media and the libby-libs have so totally ignored these speeches (of course we all know the answer to that one, don't we)


---Bill Clinton’s own words---

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/02/17/transcripts/clinton.iraq/

These speeches totally and completely blow liberals right out of the water.

(I wonder what Keith 'GoOfy' Olbermann would say about them. His usual whimper - whiney excuses I bet)

You libby-libs have a nice day.......

Posted by: Da Truth | September 25, 2008 4:58 PM | Report abuse

To Concerned Outsider;

You are correct!

Not being an America, you do not have a clue about this situation.

Posted by: Da Truth | September 25, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

birvin9999 asked, "And what exactly would Obama do?? Spend MORE, of course. Incredible."

------------------------------------------

How much have Bush spent on Iraq?

And now he wants to spend $700 BILLION on a mess he have made.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Joseph, you really are a hoot. Rich, great job?? I'm retired and never made over 75,000 a year. Easy, if you don't try to live over your means to accomplish things for some people. If they don't try to keep up with the Jones, like you probably do.

You know the facts about the economy. so don't mis-state them.

As for liking McCain or Obama, they are both the evil of two lessers.
If you would read the platform, like any thinking voter, you would be voting Libertarian this year, as I am doing.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

"What, does McCain think the Senate will still be working at 9 p.m. Friday?” Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania said in an interview, referring to the scheduled start time of the debate. “I think this is all political — I wish McCain had shown the same concern when he didn’t show up in the Senate to vote on the extension of the renewable energy tax credit.”

Posted by: Fred | September 25, 2008 6:55 AM | Report abuse

Concerned outsider, having lived in the US and now in Europe, I know that your summary of the situation is apt. These are some of the reasons:

1. The majority of Americans are shockingly ignorant and gullible.

2. The information source for far too many Americans is solely the television, which is currently doing a terrible job at informing the public.

3. Too many Americans think only in binary patterns. Too them, an action is either right or wrong, a person is either good or evil, either a liberal or a conservative, etc, a statment is either true or false. The world, on the other hand, does not fit neatly into either 0 or 1.

4. A majority of Americans tend to be reactionary, leaping before looking. They often take far too little time to think about a situation and plan a feasible approach to it. Take Iraq, for instance. The US and its coalition had contained Iraq and her ruler since the end or the first Iraqi war. Hussein had allowed the weapons inspectors back into the country. What was so wrong with waiting to hear from them before resorting to invasion (why isn't violence always the absolute last resort?)? The majority party simply stampeded a naive population into supporting an ill-conceived war using a set of assertions that were untrue.

5. The governing system is incredibly open to corruption in the forms of campaign finance, lobbying, and cronyism.

6. Both of the parties are often more interested in preventing the other party from achieving anything than actually legislating and executing for the betterment of the country.

7. A governing system based upon the representation of a geographical area leads to divisive competition for everything the government provides. A proportional system works much better in promoting the good of the common weal.

8. Lots of Americans think that only America is effective and that the rest of the world should unquestioningly follow her lead. To them America is, without question, the best country in the world, despite that these people very often have never even visited another country. I have found several countries that I think are better countries than the US, and I now live in one of them.

Three things would help the US get her act back together: far better education, more travel abroad, and legislation to overturn the Supreme Court decision equating campaign contributions with free speech. Modification of the Lincoln-era legislation governing business would also not be amiss.

Posted by: ExPat2 | September 25, 2008 3:58 AM | Report abuse

The debates shouldn't have to be canceled, postponed, anything. McCain isn't doing this in the interest of the economy and what's going on in Congress otherwise he'd have been there sooner. He's doing this for his own political gain and it's not going to help. McCain needs to show up and lose his debate. Right now McCain is a small fish in a shrinking pond and he's finding himself flopping around everywhere. He's desperate. He can't come up with a single commercial ad that tells the truth, accusing Obama of wanting to teach kids about sex when it was about teaching kids to avoid sexual predators? How do you support that kind of nonsense!? McCain has been the poster child for what the Republican party is all about and I'm not buying this whole "Maverick" thing anymore. President hopeful John McCain is nothing like the former Maverick Senator John McCain of the past. Hits Obama for being too inexperienced and he recruits Palin, says the economy is strong then suddenly we are in a crisis. There is a list of other things that anyone can find on any given website and article about what he's said, then turned around and suddenly has done a near 180. Hell, how do you trust this man with National Security when he was given direct orders while under heavy fire to retreat and instead decided to stay the course only to get himself shot and captured and turned into a POW. Do we want this kind of recklessness? If we aren't careful, this will be the very man that will lead us into another Cold War with Russia or into a full scale war with the likes of Iran or North Korea.

Posted by: Joseph | September 25, 2008 2:52 AM | Report abuse

Mark, I'm sure there is plenty more to that story then what some stupid article maps out by a likely biased author. Then again, back in 2003, the Republicans controlled Congress and very well could have done something about it if they really really wanted it to. Guess it comes to show the Republicans didn't have much control after all. Then again, look no further than to those pockets that Fannie and Freddie are lining with cash that could be going towards their debt problems. Oh but if only the things that were in place that would have allowed the economy to continue to prosper that Clinton laid out continued to go along. Nope! Instead Bush took everything away and took a working system and broke it! See it goes something like this. During the Clinton era... the middle class had money. That money meant having something with which they could take those loans out on so they could afford housing and be able to pay it off. Now people can't pay it because everything is too damn expensive. Gas dropped to as low as $0.87 a gallon here where I live under Clinton and never hit 2 bucks. Under Bush, it spiked to around 3ish before the Dems and just after the Dems it climbed to around 4 bucks. During the time the Dems have been in congress, they've tried coming up with plans for alternative fuels and urging for prices to be lowered and pressing on Bush about it as well. But we all know who Bush is chummy with. Oh yeah, Big Oil. Republicans "talk" about alternative fuels but really all they wanna do is DRILL DRILL DRILL!!

Posted by: Joseph | September 25, 2008 2:41 AM | Report abuse

I've carved out time to watch all the debates. Since Senator McCain wants to be in Washington, why don't they just flip the two debates and do the vice-presidential one tomorrow and the presidential one on Tuesday? It seems like that would be the least disruptive solution for everyone.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 25, 2008 2:29 AM | Report abuse

Stan, Check your figures again man. It was 2 Trillion Surplus and the deficit is closer to 10 trillion.

Posted by: Joseph | September 25, 2008 2:24 AM | Report abuse

You want me to give it a break when the country was already tanking before the Dems too congress? Go back to the first Bush term when things were already on the slide. Second term even before the Dems got in the economy was already slowing down. Everyone on here knows that including you, but the Republican McCain lover I'm sure you are won't ever admit that. Bush put the country into a huge economic debt long before the Dems came around. The Dems just happen to end ther picture as everything was completely going to hell and so they suddenly catch the flack for it? Its like this... you get a group of guys... lets call them republicans... they put a bunch of wood and other flammables to start a bonfire... gas it everything, Then they light it and slowly it starts to go up, at that point they run and a group of democrats suddenly enters the picture, now it goes up into massive flames. That's a metaphor for how things are now. The Dems came around when the kindles were already starting to burn and by the time they could even take notice, everything went up into a huge raging inferno. It's ok. Keep your dream alive... with your 30+ acre home and 2 cars. Hell the only people who have that kinda money have very good paying jobs, are rich, and probably own their own business which of course, the top of the food chain where Republicans benefit the most. Kinda like McCain and his 7 homes that he can't even keep track of.

Posted by: Joseph | September 25, 2008 2:23 AM | Report abuse

I'm sorry that MCCAIN becomes more and more a HYPOCRITE, the more he listens to
advice from his republican publicist handlers.

They sure do not want a McCain DEBATE with Obama on the economy Friday.
MCCAIN wants to CUT & RUN-- looks cowardly.

Suddenly McCain makes
a big hullabaloo about running to WashDC to save the Economy? sounds too phony.
who's he kidding? Maybe himself.

McCain and his VP pick are always shielded from saying anything to media for fear they'll screw up. That's not leadership--that's abominable!

I've had it with their republican circus sideshow. No more years for corrupt republican liars.
My vote's for
common sense & competence: Obama-Biden.

Posted by: darker | September 25, 2008 1:41 AM | Report abuse

In 2000, after two consecutive Democratic administrations, we had a $3 trillion dollar surplus. In 2008, after two consecutive Republican administrations, we have a $5 trillion dollar (and that's BEFORE the bail out) deficit.

See what happens when tax and spend Democrats get replaced by tax cut and spend Republicans?

I hate it when people say that the Bush administration has been spending money "like a drunken sailor." I have known drunken sailors and they spend their OWN money.

How anybody can vote for a third term of this criminal incompetence is beyond me.

Posted by: Stan Denski | September 25, 2008 12:54 AM | Report abuse

Did I read somewhere here that "at least McCain shows up for votes"??? In the past year he has missed 412 votes....that's right!! 412 The MOST in the Senate. Obama on the other hand has missed 295. Even with the long primary, when McCain had already sewn up the nomination,,,Obama still made the time to go VOTE....more than you can say about the number one AWOL.......

Posted by: PDB | September 25, 2008 12:43 AM | Report abuse

Enough, 8 years is ENOUGH!

Every time McCain starts to slip in the polls he pulls some stunt. First, Palin, attacking the NY Times, and now suspending his campaign!?!.

All the lies and misinformation and a different story every other day. First he is a de-regulator and now his for regulation. First he tries to tie Obama to Fannie and Freddie and now its his campaign manager who is connected. This is the worst and most deceitful campaign I have ever seen in my lifetime.

Now Palin trying to cover up her part of Troopergate by not cooperating. Sounds like Rove before Congress, only wait no he would not appear, just like Palin won't.

ENOUGH!!!!!

Posted by: Mike in Sac | September 24, 2008 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Winning is defeating the enemy!
brian wrote
No wonder this country is so screwed up, some people don't know what winning is, and thus, don't know how to win.

They know how to whine!

Posted by: Brian | September 24, 2008 10:03 PM

You got it backwards, weve been winning for so long we cant tell that we're losing now. B. Obama puts us back on the path to the win.

Posted by: gamehog | September 24, 2008 11:26 PM | Report abuse

Senator Obama is a reasoned individual displaying a great temperament for being President of the United States. Senator Mc Same is going to have to replace his knee if he keeps jerking it this much. On Monday our fundamentals are strong today lets drop everything and run to Washington so we can distract America from the issues. Mc Grumpy want them to know that I am now down nine(9) points in the polls and my campaign manager has been taking $15,000 a month from Freddie Mac. Look the other way and don’t ask my running mate any questions while she is in the cocoon we are keeping her in. Senator Obama has on his economic team Warren Buffet, Robert Reich, Paul Volcker all great advisers. Obama can also walk and chew gum at the same time which Mr. Lets delay on the debate until some day when America is not focused on the economic crisis my Republican cronies created. Run to George W. Mc Same and then tell us how you are not exactly the same as him. You were against the AIG bailout and then for it, you blamed Obama for it all and now want to work with him. Take your meds you are getting frenetic and tough to keep up with what you believe. Your ruse today was another bad one and wont pull any wool over the American electorate. To recap Senator Obama is the by far better choice for our economy and our country. OBAMANOS! SI SE PUEDE! YES WE CAN AND WILL WIN IN November!

Posted by: Deborah Bloomberg | September 24, 2008 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Polls schmools. fact is that the folks who have cell phones don't get polled and guess what they are the younger crowd and of course going to vote for Obama heavily. Break it down to the swing states and the ones turning blue before our eyes and Mc Same is toast America is too smart to vote for Grumpy and his incompetent soulmate Sarah. November will be a landslide for Obama the man who has economic advisers like Warren Buffet,Robert reich, Paul volcker working with him. OBAMANOS! SI SE PUEDE! YES WE CAN AND WILL ELECT A PRESIDENT WITH INTELLECT ND INTEGRITY. BARACK AND ROLL!

Posted by: Col Joseph Bento 101st Airborne | September 24, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

outsider,

Good post, sums up the view of everyone outside, not blinded.

But I need to explain to you about the meaning of Black. To some folks here, Black is like having sand in your rice. Doesn't matter if it is 100% sand, or 50%, they still wouldn't eat it.

To the rest, Obama is a breath of fresh air.

Posted by: cloud9ine | September 24, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

We Americans are country of Soldiers. Our whole purpose in world is to kill foreigners and win the world.

McCain is the man for this Job.

Posted by: Kevin | September 24, 2008 10:38 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats caused this mess.


In 2003, the Republicans wanted to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac... and the Democrats refused!


Here's the New York Times article from September 11, 2003.


http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1


There you have it.


Proof!


The Democrats DID NOT WANT to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac.


Note the Barney Frank quote on page 2 of the article. It's very revealing!


It was the Democrats who pushed for this deregulation -- because the liberals feared that regulations placed on Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac would deny home loans to poor minorities.


A vote for Obama in November is a vote for unprecedented financial DISASTER. You ain't seen nothing yet!


The Democrats caused this financial mess with their stupid deregulation of the mortgage industry via liberal policies of forcing lenders to lend to poor people who can't possibly pay back.

Posted by: Mark | September 24, 2008 10:36 PM | Report abuse

I am not American so, doubtless, I cannot understand the cultural forces that have created the present circumstances. Here’s how I see it, from the outside.

Bush used outright lies about weapons of mass destruction and a non-existent Iraq/Al Queda link; and preyed on fear engendered by 9/11 to get support to invade Iraq, a war he had been hoping for even prior to his election. He comandeered the media in frightening the public. Where I live, it was clear from our press that he would be unlikely to find weapons of mass destruction.

Largely ignorant of the rest of the world and of Islam in particular, Bush actually thought that in spite of a destroyed infrastructure, the Iraqis would welcome him as a hero. He further believed he could foist democracy on Iraq in spite of African and other experiences demonstrating the contrary. Ugly Americanism on a grand scale.

At home, he lowered taxes (for the wealthy only) even when there was a war to pay for. He pursued ever more deregulation with something amounting to religious fervor.

He used the war as a smokescreen to pass a series of Acts increasing executive power, to deny access to ever increasing amounts of information about his government and to forbid examination of controversial policies having nothing to do with war, e.g. the firing of federal attorneys to name but one.

Tossing aside your longstanding division of church and state, he sucured both narrow wins based on wooing the religious right.

The results of these policies are increased cultural and religious polarization, the death and disabling of thousands of Americans and even more in Iraq and an economic meltdown on a scale not seen since the 1930’s.

And then, in the face of this economic meltdown he has the audacity to present a taxpayer funded bail out proposal that includes no oversight provisions and says, once again, that this must pass now.

Your current republican candidate is a wealthy, impulsive hawk whose long track record suggests more of the same. He is 72 and has an inexperienced running mate who makes him look like a moderate. This candidate, during an election campaign, refuses media interviews on the flimsiest of excuses and now he wants to postpone the debate.

It is inconceivable to me that McCain and Obama are still so close in the polls.
Are you aware that yours is the only first world country without a comprehensive non-profit health care system? Are you aware that you have one of the worst public education systems in the western world? Do you know how ignorant many of your citizens seem to those of us who see ourselves and our contries in an international and interdependent context? Are you aware that you have been largely brainwashed to think that progressive economic policies are tantamount to communism? And. . . pray tell . . . how can it be that someone who is 50% white is . . . black? Clearly, I am not American so I just don’t get it.

It’s too bad that the rest of the world gets dragged into this mess because of the economic size of the US. However, if you folks elect McCain, whatever the domestic consequeces, and they will not be pleasant, there will be international consequenses as well.

In self defence, we in the rest of the world have already been trying to isolate ourselves from Bush’s toxic policies and you can be certain that this will accelerate. This isolation, coupled with the increasing gap between the have and have nots and the consequent ghettoization of greater numbers of your population will relegate more and more of your citizens to a third world existence, rife with corruption and dwindling opportunity.

I hate to see this happen to a once idealistic nation who used to be a moral leader as well as an economic and military one.

Its your opportunity or your funeral. I hope that you decide wisely.

Posted by: concerned outsider | September 24, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

I am not American so, doubtless, I cannot understand the cultural forces that have created the present circumstances. Here’s how I see it, from the outside.

Bush used outright lies about weapons of mass destruction and a non-existent Iraq/Al Queda link; and preyed on fear engendered by 9/11 to get support to invade Iraq, a war he had been hoping for even prior to his election. He comandeered the media in frightening the public. Where I live, it was clear from our press that he would be unlikely to find weapons of mass destruction.

Largely ignorant of the rest of the world and of Islam in particular, Bush actually thought that in spite of a destroyed infrastructure, the Iraqis would welcome him as a hero. He further believed he could foist democracy on Iraq in spite of African and other experiences demonstrating the contrary. Ugly Americanism on a grand scale.

At home, he lowered taxes (for the wealthy only) even when there was a war to pay for. He pursued ever more deregulation with something amounting to religious fervor.

He used the war as a smokescreen to pass a series of Acts increasing executive power, to deny access to ever increasing amounts of information about his government and to forbid examination of controversial policies having nothing to do with war, e.g. the firing of federal attorneys to name but one.

Tossing aside your longstanding division of church and state, he sucured both narrow wins based on wooing the religious right.

The results of these policies are increased cultural and religious polarization, the death and disabling of thousands of Americans and even more in Iraq and an economic meltdown on a scale not seen since the 1930’s.

And then, in the face of this economic meltdown he has the audacity to present a taxpayer funded bail out proposal that includes no oversight provisions and says, once again, that this must pass now.

Your current republican candidate is a wealthy, impulsive hawk whose long track record suggests more of the same. He is 72 and has an inexperienced running mate who makes him look like a moderate. This candidate, during an election campaign, refuses media interviews on the flimsiest of excuses and now he wants to postpone the debate.

It is inconceivable to me that McCain and Obama are still so close in the polls.
Are you aware that yours is the only first world country without a comprehensive non-profit health care system? Are you aware that you have one of the worst public education systems in the western world? Do you know how ignorant many of your citizens seem to those of us who see ourselves and our contries in an international and interdependent context? Are you aware that you have been largely brainwashed to think that progressive economic policies are tantamount to communism? And. . . pray tell . . . how can it be that someone who is 50% white is . . . black? Clearly, I am not American so I just don’t get it.

It’s too bad that the rest of the world gets dragged into this mess because of the economic size of the US. However, if you folks elect McCain, whatever the domestic consequeces, and they will not be pleasant, there will be international consequenses as well.

In self defence, we in the rest of the world have already been trying to isolate ourselves from Bush’s toxic policies and you can be certain that this will accelerate. This isolation, coupled with the increasing gap between the have and have nots and the consequent ghettoization of greater numbers of your population will relegate more and more of your citizens to a third world existence, rife with corruption and dwindling opportunity.

I hate to see this happen to a once idealistic nation who used to be a moral leader as well as an economic and military one.

Its your opportunity or your funeral. I hope that you decide wisely.

Posted by: concerned outsider | September 24, 2008 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I am not American so, doubtless, I cannot understand the cultural forces that have created the present circumstances. Here’s how I see it, from the outside.

Bush used outright lies about weapons of mass destruction and a non-existent Iraq/Al Queda link; and preyed on fear engendered by 9/11 to get support to invade Iraq, a war he had been hoping for even prior to his election. He comandeered the media in frightening the public. Where I live, it was clear from our press that he would be unlikely to find weapons of mass destruction.

Largely ignorant of the rest of the world and of Islam in particular, Bush actually thought that in spite of a destroyed infrastructure, the Iraqis would welcome him as a hero. He further believed he could foist democracy on Iraq in spite of African and other experiences demonstrating the contrary. Ugly Americanism on a grand scale.

At home, he lowered taxes (for the wealthy only) even when there was a war to pay for. He pursued ever more deregulation with something amounting to religious fervor.

He used the war as a smokescreen to pass a series of Acts increasing executive power, to deny access to ever increasing amounts of information about his government and to forbid examination of controversial policies having nothing to do with war, e.g. the firing of federal attorneys to name but one.

Tossing aside your longstanding division of church and state, he sucured both of his narrow wins based on wooing the religious right.

The results of these policies are increased cultural and religious polarization, the death and disabling of thousands of Americans and even more in Iraq and an economic meltdown on a scale not seen since the 1930’s.

And then, in the face of this economic meltdown he has the audacity to present a taxpayer funded bail out proposal that includes no oversight provisions and says, once again, that this must pass now.

Your current republican candidate is a wealthy, impulsive hawk whose long track record suggests more of the same. He is 72 and has an inexperienced running mate who makes him look like a moderate. This candidate, during an election campaign, refuses media interviews on the flimsiest of excuses and now he wants to postpone the debate.

It is inconceivable to me that McCain and Obama are still so close in the polls.

Are you aware that yours is the only first world country without a comprehensive non-profit health care system? Are you aware that you have one of the worst public education systems in the western world? Do you know how ignorant many of your citizens seem to those of us who see ourselves and our contries in an international and interdependent context? Are you aware that you have been largely brainwashed to think that progressive economic policies are tantamount to communism? And. . . pray tell . . . how can it be that someone who is 50% white is . . . black? And why does this matter? Clearly, I am not American so I just don’t get it.

It’s too bad that the rest of the world gets dragged into this mess because of the economic size of the US. However, if you folks elect McCain, whatever the domestic consequeces, and they will not be pleasant, there will be international consequenses as well.

In self defence, we in the rest of the world have already been trying to isolate ourselves from Bush’s toxic policies and you can be certain that this will accelerate. This isolation, coupled with the increasing gap between the have and have nots and the consequent ghettoization of greater numbers of your population will relegate more and more of your citizens to a third world existence, rife with corruption and dwindling opportunity.

I hate to see this happen to a once idealistic nation who used to be a moral leader as well as an economic and military one.

Its your opportunity or your funeral. I hope that you decide wisely.

Posted by: Anon | September 24, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Iran will have nuke, Russia will team up with Chavez (Argentina), and something horrendous will happen soon to the USA."

Chavez of Argentina?? Wrong country.

And they downed McCain because of "not knowing where Spain is". No, that's not what he said at all. Read up.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Give it a break, Joseph. The Republicans were in power in Congress all during the Clinton administration. They came into power shortly after he was elected and were still there when he left. Only after the demos came into power have we gone straight downhill.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Bradley!

You criticize but what knowledgeable information can you provide?

Give us something that'll lift our intellect to a higher level.

Posted by: Brian | September 24, 2008 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Who are you people engaged in this stupid commentary? Read a book. Learn how to think critically. You all sound like a bunch of school children bickering at one another. Just because you don't like something, you can call it bias?

Grow up ...

Posted by: Bradley | September 24, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Winning is defeating the enemy!

No wonder this country is so screwed up, some people don't know what winning is, and thus, don't know how to win.

They know how to whine!

Posted by: Brian | September 24, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

The leaders of our enemies have been closely watching how we act internally when it comes to a conflict such as Iraq, and what they see are Americans who will not want to finish a fight when things get tough, they see half of all Americans wanting to pull out before having a win.

With this attitude among Americans dividing the USA, our enemies know that this is the best time to make a move.

Iran will have nuke, Russia will team up with Chavez (Argentina), and something horrendous will happen soon to the USA.

Unless we stand strong and fight hard and tough war now, we wil have to fight a devastating, and terrible war later, and all that I have just predicted will come true!

Come On People of This Great Country, Stand and Fight!

Posted by: Brian | September 24, 2008 8:36 PM

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this ain't no football game...
rah, rah, rah
4000+ dead Americans
maybe 1/2 mil dead Iraqis

what is 'winning'?
guess it depends on your definition...
so much damage has been done, imo, enough 'good' can't be done to tip the scale to 'win'
everybody's 'lost'
it's minimize damage mode...

this simplistic 'win' or 'lose' mentality has screwed us...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

The leaders of our enemies have been closely watching how we act internally when it comes to a conflict such as Iraq, and what they see are Americans who will not want to finish a fight when things get tough, they see half of all Americans wanting to pull out before having a win.

With this attitude among Americans dividing the USA, our enemies know that this is the best time to make a move.

Iran will have nuke, Russia will team up with Chavez (Argentina), and something horrendous will happen soon to the USA.

Unless we stand strong and fight hard and tough war now, we wil have to fight a devastating, and terrible war later, and all that I have just predicted will come true!

Come On People of This Great Country, Stand and Fight!

Posted by: Brian | September 24, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand media. When Sen. McCain was leading the polls, no mention was made to the electoral college. Now that Sen. Obama is leading the electoral college is important.

The 9% diference, means a change and a "big" one.

Posted by: Dora Mi | September 24, 2008 8:25 PM | Report abuse

I guess you redneck hillbillies still want a country where you want another retard hillbilly running the country.

Posted by: anon | September 24, 2008 2:59 PM

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anon, the correct way to say it is "mentally challenged" redneck hillbillies

OBAMA!!

Posted by: johng1 | September 24, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Policies by Clinton? Are you sure? Because last I checked under Clinton, we were running on a big surplus, social security was doing fine, everything else was solid. Check out all the spending and when the huge deficits came around. It all happened under the Bush administration in a republican congress which would constantly for years lock out democrats and do their own unanimous voting without a voice from anyone else. Sounds like you're a hardcore strong republican looking to hammer down any democratic argument when there is always a counter. Tell me, do you run a business or are you part of the low/mid level that is scratching away trying to get by on 30-40k a year? You could probably see back a term or two before I can as far as things go but guarantee someone else will see back before that with a policy or something that went on to contribute against both you and or I. But what I see were policies in 8 years of Clinton where the economy was strong, oil was low, gas was cheap, people were making a lot more money and things were good. Democratic approval on the war was because Saddam was suppose to have been harboring nukes and god knows what other BS reasons. Trickle back a few years and who was in Iraq previously? Oh yeah! Daddy Bush! And what does Iraq have that republicans and namely the Bush family associate well with? Oil!! The war happened, oil spiked to around 3 bucks a gallon, because of that necessities got to be more expensive, people trying to get by had a harder time getting by, letting bills go, mortgages unpaid, trying to stretch every drop of gas and pull in what moderate forms of food and other things necessary for families to thrive while inflation occurred. You can try to dig back 8 years to the Clinton era but if it was such a problem, why didn't the republicans and the bush administration seek to fix what apparently was a problem that much earlier? Course, look no further than who's pockets are being lined by Fannie and Freddie. Then again Anonymous... It took a Clinton to fix the economic issues and broken policies and all that other good stuff of a previous Bush. Ya wanna look at the previous 8 years of Clinton to look at these current 8 years, you wanna say that the Democrats have controlled for years though they've only been there on the tail end of the Bush era, then creep back a few more years at the first Bush and see the problems there, continue to look back further to other failed republicans. About the only actual good and approvable republican that is around right now and sad to say is the Governator.

Posted by: Joseph | September 24, 2008 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "annonomouse your my hero you maverick.any more excuses why i should vote foe mccain."

I don't have any Frank. I'm doing the thinking voters' thing this year and not voting for either of the two lessers.
I'm voting Libertarian.

Posted by: annonymouse | September 24, 2008 6:58 PM | Report abuse

He knows a lot about the economy, does he? Well, what happened to Obama's great judgement and insight here?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212948811465427.html

Too busy playing politics i guess!


Posted by: Why | September 24, 2008 5:07 PM

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you realize both writers are members of the american enterprise foundation?
a right wing neo-con 'think tank' that cheney and woflowitz basically founded as a pretext o world domination?

hardly an impartial nor objective analysis

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Joseph, read up. The war was approved by a large majority including a large percentage of democrats. The deficit and housing disaster were started under Democratic leadership by the policies of Clinton who found it his duty to make the people who couldn't afford a big house to be able to buy one.
Democrats tax and spend. I try to live within my means. That's why I own my home and 35 acres, all paid for, my two cars, all paid for. No credit cards.
Obama will tell you he will raise taxes and we ought to be "patriotic" and pay them. I can see his Chicago cronies doing that.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

another rash, showboating, grandstanding maneuver by mccain...

he's getting his butt whipped in the polls, so let's ride into DC on our white horse and save the day...he'll get the cold shoulder from both sides of the aisle...

he's rash and inconsistent...

the parties ARE coming together on this, they are adding conditions and oversight, it gives me hope...then this fool tires to capitalize on the situation...

like he's 'better' than the memebers (of both parties) already working on it...
he already said he knows nothing about economics and is not on any of the committees invovled...

typical BS

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain s right, these pending issues are very important. However, both candidates should present their positions to the electorate in a debate. They should not go back to Washington and become pawns for the Bush-Chaney sophists that were supposed to prevent this financial crisis.

Posted by: Larry Linn | September 24, 2008 6:44 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous:
Quote: "All I see are a bunch of fools echoing a bigger fools words. It'll take a democratic rule to rebalance the incredibly unbalanced economy, and you know it."

Hmmm, well, that is what we have had for the past several years. Democratic rule in the Congress, who make the laws, approve the wars, and okay the budget.
During the "great" Clinton years, we had a Republican ruled congress.
Think on it.

Funny... the democrats have only been in Congress control for the past couple of years and these problems all started before that. While there may have been a republican controlled congress during the time of Bill Clinton, the president himself was still a democrat. Hell if Bush wasn't constantly wanting to veto everything the democrat controlled congress wanted to do then we'd probably be in better standings. The massive defict came before Democrat controlled congress, the war before the Democrats, inflation before the Democrats, oil spiking start before the Democrats, gas prices rising before the Democrats which of course lead to the rising of prices because of the need to transport goods and other services. Geee... I wonder. Who really could be at fault here? Shall we continue to try to blame the Democrats? See... no one talks about how under a Republican controlled congress how the country was run so well under the Clinton regime, we hear about how Clinton did an awesome job as president despite his lack of taste in women. Face it Republican politics have no place in the economy. It's suppose to work like this, cut taxes and place the money in the hands of the rich folk, from there the money is suppose to trickle its way down to the middle and low working class people. There is one problem, the money stops at the CEO's, VP's and any other deep pocketed high end official or position in any business. It never trickles down. The rich get rich and the working class is left getting the shaft.

Posted by: Joseph | September 24, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

He knows a lot about the economy, does he? Well, what happened to Obama's great judgement and insight here?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212948811465427.html

Too busy playing politics i guess!


Posted by: Why | September 24, 2008 5:07 PM

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Their leaving a whole lot out of that story. People were buying homes and weren't told what would happen when the interest rates went up. I know people that lost their whole life savings because they were coned into thinking they could afford a home. Then you got this scam where people borrow money from the bank on a house that isn't even theirs. I'm not sure about all the details on that one but a lot of people went to jail. Phil Gramm isn't even mentioned in that story and this is his baby. The Enron collapse was also his baby. Just Google search Phil Gramm housing crises and you'll get all the info you need. Wall Street with their newly structured vehicles is another thing that isn't in that story. Basically, their in the tank for McCain.

Posted by: Hemi | September 24, 2008 6:22 PM | Report abuse

McCain's financial advisor has been taking money $30 K per month, from fannie and freddie, for the past 5 years.
A year ago he changed to only getting $15K for his company, not him, until last month.

Posted by: Bruce | September 24, 2008 5:06 PM
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I'm fairly certain that every member of Congress has either received money from or on behalf of Fan/Fred or is somehow associated with a person who has received money.

They are all in bed with special interests. Changing the players or the party affiliation of the players won't be enough.

We will be here 4 years from now arguing about the same damn things. There will be no fundamental change no matter who wins in November. Whatever "change" we do get will be like giving a person with a broken arm Tylenol for the pain rather than addressing the broken arm.

Why? Because sadly, we have reached a point in our nation's history where We The People want the government to do everything for us, to remove all risk from everything in life and then bail us out when it goes wrong.

Nothing in DC can change until We The People change our "victim" mindset.

Posted by: None of the Above 08 | September 24, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

If the public is changing their opinion that quick and whimsically from week to week; then we do not have an intelligent electorate (I hate to say).

I think there is another posible explanation. The media's one sided reporting; especially about Palin.

They say Palin is a rock star (at least to republicans) and that is why she is in the media 'so' much.

I think otherwise: The liberal media is just trying to bash Palin as much as possible with every scandal they cam manufacture or exaggerate. The media likewise is going out of their way to avoid showing Biden’s gaffs. Just watch when something comes out about Palin (or supposedly comes out – or maybe just manufactured); it will stay in the news for at least a week (maybe two), and be reported repeatedly, sometimes ‘on the hour every hour’. When something comes out about Biden it might last a day, and be reported very sporadically at best. The media also goes back on Palin’s history as much as possible, but how much have we heard about Biden’s plagiarism, or embellishing his academic record. Some might throw in the excuse that those happened 15-20 years ago, however there are many young people who plan to vote this time (who never voted before) who do not know of Biden’s past. Should they not be informed as much about Biden’s past as Palin’s ?? (the media will go back in time 20 or even 50 years when it suites them). This type of ‘Repetition’ of Palin’s “supposed” past and hiding Biden’s is what the old Soviet Union used to do. It is called PROPOGANDIZING………………..

Also;

Biden seems slow, awkward, out of touch and confused when giving speeches (in addition to all the above examples & gaffs he thought FDR reign was during the television era). This totally undermines the Dem’s claims that that his experience shores up the experience question surrounding Obama. If Biden has to step into the presidency for some reason (if something happens to Obama) we have all his confusion & bewilderment to look forward to. So much for the Demo ticket being capable and experienced!! If McCain is trying to keep Palin away from the press, is Obama trying to do the same with Biden! Is the press helping Obama out with this effort as much as they can !!!

Also the libby media has apparently gone out of their way not to inform the public that Obama no longer plans to meet unconditionally with Iran’s ‘so called ‘ President. Also, Obama apparently now claims he will not allow Iran to become a tyrant nation with Nuclear Weapons. When McCain said the same he was called a war mongerer. So what is up: The media is playing their ‘usual games’, as usual !!


Posted by: Anon | September 24, 2008 6:13 PM | Report abuse

At least the Dems never promised anything they can't deliver.

Posted by: oto | September 24, 2008 2:31 PM
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Oh really?

Let's see:

2006

Get the troops out of Iraq.
End the war.
SCHIP
Immigration reform

Stop letting party politics divide us.

It isn't Dems v. GOP anymore.

It's We The People v. Lifetime/Corrupt/Pandering politicians and their special interests.

Posted by: Sure | September 24, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

It's funny, people's reactions to polls.

So far during this campaign season, I have encountered MORE of the following than anything else when it comes to polls.

1. When Obama is up: Woo hoo! See that proves he's winning. McCain/Clinton/Edwards is toast.

2.When Obama is down: Racists! Can't rely on polls. They mean nothing. They are all flawed.

Haven't heard the same from supporters of any other candidate (GOP or otherwise)

Soooo, which is it?

Posted by: Whatever | September 24, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Maybe one poll is an "outlier"? Except that is was followed by another Fox News poll showing THE SAME thing. But everyone knows that Fox is completely biased.

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 24, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Not surprising that Obama takes the lead. Anyone watching these candidates knows he's the one focused on issues --- not the one making rash decisions.

Posted by: wolf | September 24, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes America is WAKING UP !!
Despite the most diabolical, unethical campaign run in America's history by John McCain. Despite all the efforts to deceive American's , at the heart of everything is the ABSOLUTE TRUTH that over the past eight years the republican's have brought our great country to a state of utter SHAME. Our reputation has diminished in the world, over a corrupt war and a foreign policy of arrogance and power. Our education systems, teachers, facilities, and funding have failed. Our medical systems have become corporate monsters that have made health care unaffordable for millions . Our sciences are far behind the rest of the world's technologies. Our withdrawal from the Keyoto Treaty defies international efforts to improve the earths pollution issue. Our economy is on the brink of a depression, and our president has lied and mislead the country to a point of absolute apathy.
So finally the polls are shifting, as the pain, and the NEED FOR A CHANGE, strikes deep into the heart of true Americans.
McCain can try to cancel the debates, run deceiving ads, and bring out his baracuta barbie doll with a beauty mask, but it's all rotting bait hanging on a very ugly hook that American's have come to recognize all too well. It's not going to work this time, because there are eight horrible years that we have all just been through, and ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!
Republican's resume can't hide under a mask.
As the Who said : " We Won't Get Fooled Again"

Posted by: Jennifer Pate | September 24, 2008 5:55 PM | Report abuse

Bruce: Its called cut and run!! the Palin honeymoon is over and the old guy has no hiding place!. He is only doing that, because he want to claim "COUNTRY FIRST"! He only forgets its his own party which has brought this mess!. The people who are handling issues regarding economy knows their stuff!! nobody wants Mcain squinting his eyes in Washington!

McCain is pretending we have a crisis so bad he cannot debate foreign policy on Friday. Amazing gall.

There is no consensus on this bailout.

I could do it for $50 billion. Just sell one piece at a time. no bundles. nothing complex. Its a scam to say we need to let the big shots do this with no oversight.
We can handle the homeowners first. bush said he would veto that because we didnt have the $300 billion two weeks ago.
Now we have $700 billion, to help his pals.

PS. AIG hold $20 billion insurance on foreigners. Those people's countries can bail them out of that part of it.
US citizens are owed $7 billion. That's not $85 billion.
Each piece must be viewed on its own. No bundles, no uber authority.

Posted by: bruce Becker | September 24, 2008 5:02 PM

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Jr. Senator Barack Hussein Obama needs to go back to Washington and vote on this buy out plan before America falls.We do not need a debate at this time. We need help. These leaders on wall street need to be put in jail for Greed. We the people now have to bail them out. Yet America needs the help now. Look at the rest of the world if we go down then the world will fallow. wasington post need to look at what is just,right,and to walk humble before God! America needs Grace now and If our house and Senate take there sweet time on this buy out then THE BLOOD OF AMERICA WILL BE ON THEIR HANDS!

Posted by: hawaiian | September 24, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Human:

The fact that you trust any politician tells me a lot about you. Go do a little homework on Obama's Chicago political history, you'd be surprised. You won't however, because like many of his supporters you don't want your hope that he really is hope shattered.

It's great to have hope, but don't blindly depend on it. Educate yourself on both sides.

Posted by: MikeVa | September 24, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

We've endured 8 years of conservative economics...and look where we are at?
An economy in shambles, sky hi trade imbalance, exploding deficits, a dollar in the tan

I say, give the other side a chance to show they can do a better job. The conservatives have done such a bad job even the McCain is afraid to be seen with the leader of his own party.

How bad is that?

Posted by: Norris Hall | September 24, 2008 4:57 PM

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The problem is that the Republican Party is dead. There is nothing conservative about George Bush and John McCain. He locks the country down with his terrorist propaganda then leaves the border wide open so millions of people can walk right in. He's even got Mexican truckers crossing the border and rolling right into the United States in some kind of program, and it's putting our drivers out of work. He gave the whole Hi-Tech industry to the Chinese. Bush even has his whole family making millions in Iraq. Just Google (Bush family war profiteers) and you'll see what I mean. Instead of being President he should be in jail. And McCain will continue right where Bush leaves off. I wonder if these people even know what their voting for.

Posted by: Hemi | September 24, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

The Post has long been considered the conservative counter-balance the the NY Times. Now the Post is reporting an Obama lead and suddenly they are as red as PRAVDA. Typical denial by conservatives who can't come to grips with the fact that the Neocon policies have saddled our country with 12.5 trillion in deficits with no end in sight.

Palin is a joke. Notice how she will not answer questions from reporters in a setting that cannot be controlled? No press conferences, no discussions with reporters in her press corps. She can't be trusted by her handlers to give a response that is intelligent. Pathetic choice.

McCain is a liar or he is just not the same person he was years ago. If you watch interviews from his 2000 campaign he is saying exactly the opposite of what he is espousing now. While I can see changing your mind, he is also heard lambasting Bush and other republicans for having the viewpoints he now embraces.

I don't trust him, I trust Obama. He may not have 25 years in the senate but he is far more intelligent and his ability to grasp a situation and make a decision is not in question.

Obama needs a 15 point lead, otherwise the scum of the earth will steal yet another election. Make it impossible, landslide is the only answer

Posted by: human | September 24, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Frank: "for those of you who thinks the washington post is in favor of obama why are you still here."

I dunno, it's like a train wreck I guess. Horrible, but at the same time, I just can't stop looking.

It's not that they favor 1 or the other that I have a problem with, I have an issue with the fact that they favor anyone at all. The media is supposed to give us unbiased news coverage of what's going on, yet they choose to inject their biased opinions and spin stories. Which tends to steer many Americans in one direction or another because they actually think they are getting what they are supposed to. It's even more obnoxious that they are taking the stance that they are just a victim of one party or another and claiming that they are just reporting the news like this Feaver tool.

Not enough people in this country actually attempt to find information for themselves. C-Span is a good start to seeing what really goes on. Checking out the candidates websites would be another good tool, both candidates. However many ignorant people just get their talking points from here and then regurgitate them to other ignorant Americans who all make up their collective minds based on the opinion of some ignorant journalist.

Posted by: MikeVa | September 24, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Bruce,

I didn't know about that. It could play into this whole scenario which is good but if you researched the news on the Dems, especially Chris Dodds, who was an overseer of some of these companies, you would be shocked!

Posted by: Brian | September 24, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

annonymouse | September 24, 2008 4:24 PM

national polls are worthless.
State by state is how the election is conducted, except for Nebraska and Maine where congressional districts elect electors.

Polling is an inexact science. Not enough people are asked each time. That's why there is the category, POLL OF POLLS, in which the total of all the polls are used, to try to get a big enough volume of polling.
In the poll of polls, presently, Obama is leading by 4% nationally, which means NADA, since the elections are state by state.

However, in 2004, 40% of eligible voters DID NOT VOTE.

See why it is difficult to gauge the future?

Posted by: Bruce | September 24, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I hope and pray that the Democrats win. I can't believe the mess that the Republicans have wrought over 8 years. Obama is wise and visionary. He will straighten things out.

Posted by: billdoc | September 24, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

He knows a lot about the economy, does he? Well, what happened to Obama's great judgement and insight here?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122212948811465427.html

Too busy playing politics i guess!

Posted by: Why | September 24, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Brian

McCain's financial advisor has been taking money $30 K per month, from fannie and freddie, for the past 5 years.
A year ago he changed to only getting $15K for his company, not him, until last month.

Posted by: Bruce | September 24, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a patriot because she has a bigger flag pin than you ever saw before in your life.

Sure. Wanna go to war with Russia?

Posted by: Bruce | September 24, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Watch Out!

I'm a die hard Democrat living in Hawaii, but the news that coming out on the Fannie situation scares the heck out of me.

I'm finding out that top Democrats have taken a lot of money from these corrupt companies. I won't mention names but it's all on record.

If there is an investigation, which I heard the FBI has started, we are going to be in deep dodo!


Posted by: Brian | September 24, 2008 5:03 PM | Report abuse

annonomouse your my hero you maverick.any more excuses why i should vote foe mccain.

Posted by: frank | September 24, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

McCain is pretending we have a crisis so bad he cannot debate foreign policy on Friday. Amazing gall.

There is no consensus on this bailout.

I could do it for $50 billion. Just sell one piece at a time. no bundles. nothing complex. Its a scam to say we need to let the big shots do this with no oversight.
We can handle the homeowners first. bush said he would veto that because we didnt have the $300 billion two weeks ago.
Now we have $700 billion, to help his pals.

PS. AIG hold $20 billion insurance on foreigners. Those people's countries can bail them out of that part of it.
US citizens are owed $7 billion. That's not $85 billion.
Each piece must be viewed on its own. No bundles, no uber authority.

Posted by: bruce Becker | September 24, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

it's unfortunate to see the post sinking to reprinting comments left by readers. It's the same with almost all media outlets these days from Fox News to dailykos to CNN...create news where there isn't any. It might be reasonable if they had been comments posted about an action or statement by the candidates themselves. They are not. It's about a poll. It's useless meta-news.
As others have said the only poll that matters is 11/4.


Posted by: d_in_laurel | September 24, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

>>Kerry led the polls going into the election.

Kerry also led all of the exit polls.

So what ever happened to President Kerry?


well said

Posted by: The Real Thomas | September

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I can't believe you asked such a stupid question. Bush ripped off the election. Bush ripped off both elections. Just do a google search on ( Bush's corrupt voting machines.) Their trying to make this race seem close so people won't freak out when Bush's neo-con friends rig it and McCain wins.

Posted by: Hemi | September 24, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

We've endured 8 years of conservative economics...and look where we are at?
An economy in shambles, sky hi trade imbalance, exploding deficits, a dollar in the tan

I say, give the other side a chance to show they can do a better job. The conservatives have done such a bad job even the McCain is afraid to be seen with the leader of his own party.

How bad is that?

Posted by: Norris Hall | September 24, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

McCain's feint of "suspending" his campaign as soon as the poll came out shows they are accurate.

Gutless coward is afraid his part in the S&L crisis will resurface.

Pathetic.

Posted by: Garak | September 24, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I can see that the McCain tribe has the major blogs covered. The idiotic rhetoric I read concerning McCain's leadership and Palin's ubiquitous "foot-n-mouth" disease continues to astound me. I'm in no wise comparing Obama to Kennedy, but his ability to offer a new and promising perspective seemed to galvanize the country at a time that we, as a nation were coming apart at the seams. Now as a nation we're faced with border to border bedlam and for seemingly unfathomable reasons there's a ground swell of McCain enthusiast who so arrogantly embrace that he'll bring change to a nation starved for it. I hate that the news agencies no longer report the news but rather proffer their all too scurrilous opinions that I neither want nor requested. Neither candidate have all the answers, only McCain's been there for a long time and it seems the only ones who've profited are the ones he's rubbing elbows with at the country club. Johnny Carson said once: "he couldn't vote for the lesser of the two evils but rather the evil of the two lesser". I have to give hope a chance and that lesser isn't wearing a McCain/Palin straight jacket.

Posted by: Mithrial | September 24, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

for those of you who thinks the washington post is in favor of obama why are you still here.

Posted by: frank | September 24, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

"annonymouse there is nothing you can say to get me to feel sorry for you so bleed.you are what we call a pee pee island."


Frank, you are a hoot. It is the rest of us feeling sorry for you as the posts show.

Try some GED classes, or the Sylvan Learning Center.
Post away, the more you post, the more foolish you look.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "All I see are a bunch of fools echoing a bigger fools words. It'll take a democratic rule to rebalance the incredibly unbalanced economy, and you know it."

Hmmm, well, that is what we have had for the past several years. Democratic rule in the Congress, who make the laws, approve the wars, and okay the budget.
During the "great" Clinton years, we had a Republican ruled congress.
Think on it.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

annonymouse there is nothing you can say to get me to feel sorry for you so bleed.you are what we call a pee pee island.

Posted by: frank | September 24, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Voting for Obama & praying for FDR""

Now there is a statement. Many people think FDR was the devil incarnate.
Don't remember him trying to stuff the supreme court with 3 more of his justices do you?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious Obama is going to save the country money - just look how low key his acceptance in Denver was. I never had a problem with Obama not wearing a flag pin or saluting the American flag, there are a lot of good Americans that don't. But when he flip-flopped(again)and tacked on the flag pin, I knew then he is just a marionette and someone is pulling the strings. Also,I don't care if the candidate can drink beer, bowl, or play basketball.

A person who has never been in uniform and takes jabs at a man who sacrificed a lot for our country, whether you believe in war or not, does not get my vote. I want to hold him/her in the highest honor and I don't think Obama fills the bill

Posted by: hadit | September 24, 2008 4:33 PM

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Is this the guy your voting for. Mr. Country first. I don’t mean to be a smart a$$ but McCain is a false flag SOB. Go check out his voting record so you'll know I'm not lying. Why do you think our troops gave more money to Obama by a margin of 6 to 1.

John "Maverick" McCain. The guy that puts country first by voting against health care for our troops, and their needs.

August 2001: McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650,000,000.

April 2003: McCain urged other Senate members to table a vote (which never passed) to provide more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.

October 2003: McCain voted to table an amendment by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq and to reduce the amount provided for reconstruction in Iraq by $322,000,000.

March 2004: McCain once again voted for abusive tax loopholes over veterans when he voted against creating a reserve fund to allow for an increase in Veterans' medical care by $1.8 billion by eliminating abusive tax loopholes. Jeez, McCain really loves those tax loopholes for corporations, since he voted for them over our veterans' needs

March 2006: McCain voted against increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes

April 2006: McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

May 2006: McCain voted against an amendment that would provide $20 million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities

September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments. At the time, nearly 65% of people polled in a CNN poll indicted that "things are going either moderately badly or very badly in Iraq.

So there it is. John McCain is yet another republican former military veteran who likes to talk a big game when it comes to having the support of the military. Yet, time and time again, he has gone out of his way to vote against the needs of those who are serving in our military. If he can't even see his way to actually doing what the troops want, or what the veterans need, and he doesn't have the support of veterans, then how can he be a credible commander in chief?


Posted by: Hemi | September 24, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

>>Kerry led the polls going into the election.

Kerry also led all of the exit polls.

So what ever happened to President Kerry?


well said

Posted by: The Real Thomas | September 24, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Republicans are getting more ignorant, stupid, and arrogant these days. Most of them (no, the GREAT MAJORITY of them) don't even know what it means to be replican, and how they aren't financially 'republican', and if they only had an idea of how much money has been taken from each and every one of their families under so called 'republican' rule, you'd probably slit your own throats, if you still remembered how to use a knife.

All I see are a bunch of fools echoing a bigger fools words. It'll take a democratic rule to rebalance the incredibly unbalanced economy, and you know it. Meanwhile Russia is acting out of hand, and North Korea is threatening to re-establish Nuclear facilities (that would be capable of creating nuclear warheads). McCain would only encourage the failed war economy (failed as in, profit for the 'players', and debt for the 'citizens').

Now we also have the threat from Iran's new president - we need to pull back ASAP and fix this country before we deal with other nations. We don't have the funds for it, and we're most vulnerable now than we've been since Clinton's administartion ended.

Posted by: Aw jeez | September 24, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

To simply make every vote in every state politically relevant and equal in presidential elections, support the National Popular Vote bill.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC). The bill would take effect only when enacted by states possessing a majority of the electoral votes (270 of 538). When the bill comes into effect, all the electoral votes from those states would be awarded to the presidential candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states (and DC).

The National Popular Vote bill has been approved by 21 legislative chambers (one house in CO, AR, ME, NC, and WA, and two houses in MD, IL, HI, CA, MA, NJ, RI, and VT). It has been enacted into law in Hawaii, Illinois, New Jersey, and Maryland. These states have 50 (19%) of the 270 electoral votes needed to bring this legislation into effect.

see http://www.NationalPopularVote.com

Posted by: susan | September 24, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Why are we supposed to be happy about this poll? I really don't see what proves that Obama has any better sense of how to handle the economy than anyone else in Capitol Hill at this point. After all, in 2003, even GW & his administration had the good sense to say this:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

Please note the folks who were telling us then that Freddie and Fannie were okay & we had nothing to worry about; that it was just the administration's way of sticking it to the poor. Now see where we are? No wonder their approval rating is now worse than that of "moron" GW.

Posted by: Why | September 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Lynne,

I am an independent that leans a little to the right. I'd rather help bail out other middle class people who made a bad decision that pay taxes and contribute to the overall economy than join the far left winger head banging approach of having the rich and middle class constantly paying for the lower income's free ride. Thinking that if you keep giving someone something, they'll eventually find some pride, want to give back, and want to try to make it on their own is insanity. Many people on both sides of the fence had a hand in the deregulation (which to a great extent was a good thing at that time and helped the economy, it just went too far), to think only right wingers are reposnible or got rich from it simply means you are in denial.

Posted by: MikeVa | September 24, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

POLL?

what does that exactly mean, and from where?


where these 100 people crossing a specific socio-economic habitat,

or 100 fat mamas with spandex pushing their kids in and out of walmart?

(just kidding, but always question the source of polls, because most of which, never mention where they are from)

Posted by: The Real Thomas | September 24, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

200 years of dishonesty in my country =barack obama and i believe there where more obamas out there that was never given a chance.i wish you well. barack-biden

Posted by: frank | September 24, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe people are saying that the media is in the tank for Obama. I can't stop laughing. The media has been protecting McCain all along. They've been trying to keep him competitive with close poll numbers. Everyone in the country is bashing McCain for his lies. You Tube has people commenting on his stupid ad's all night long. He should've ran a clean campaign. Slinging mud didn't work for Hillary, and it won't work for McCain.

Posted by: Hemi | September 24, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

It's obvious Obama is going to save the country money - just look how low key his acceptance in Denver was. I never had a problem with Obama not wearing a flag pin or saluting the American flag, there are a lot of good Americans that don't. But when he flip-flopped(again)and tacked on the flag pin, I knew then he is just a marionette and someone is pulling the strings. Also,I don't care if the candidate can drink beer, bowl, or play basketball.

A person who has never been in uniform and takes jabs at a man who sacrificed a lot for our country, whether you believe in war or not, does not get my vote. I want to hold him/her in the highest honor and I don't think Obama fills the bill

Posted by: hadit | September 24, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Frank, when you learn how to spell, and punctuate, and make a complete sentence, somebody might listen to you.

Typical lib as Hillary would say.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Insanity has been described as continuing to do the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. This is the typical right winger. After 8 years of de-regulation, free market, supply sider, trickle down economics, the inevitable has happened. And the middle class is being asked to bail out the wealthy and the average right winger, who I will guess are not wealthy, will be right there to keep on doing things the same way they have always done them. Insane.

Posted by: lynne | September 24, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"good job feaver you are doing a good job.as hank stram would say look at them now boys we've got'em confused.obama-biden.i love it when a repub tell a lie and know it's one but think it's the truth.we better watch out because when this is all over the repubs may want to drop their weapons of mass destruction on us as well.it's ashame sadaam can't be here to see this."

You sir are an oxygen thief. I don't care who you support, but if this is all you have to add to the converstation, do us all a favor and say nothing at all.

Posted by: MikeVa | September 24, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

good job feaver you are doing a good job.as hank stram would say look at them now boys we've got'em confused.obama-biden.i love it when a repub tell a lie and know it's one but think it's the truth.we better watch out because when this is all over the repubs may want to drop their weapons of mass destruction on us as well.it's ashame sadaam can't be here to see this.

Posted by: frank | September 24, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

These national polls are perhaps interesting as far as a popularity contest, but are meaningless as far as the election goes. All that really matters is how the candidates are doing in connecting with voters in a handful of important electoral contests. The election will come down to the results in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Florida, all of which have been very close in their respective state polls. These are the contests to really look at, not a national popularity poll.

Posted by: Gregory | September 24, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Quote: "Who cares Texas thinks?"

With 34 electoral votes, everybody.

Posted by: annonymouse | September 24, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I am against regulation, says McCain as he takes Keating's bribes. I am against bailouts, says McCain's convention platform! NOW I AM LOSING OH NO! I am FOR bailouts AND I quit my campaign until Obama agrees with Bush to give money with no strings!

Posted by: McCain Lies | September 24, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The only sense I get from all these reactions is that the Republicans are insecure and the democrats are smug. GROW UP PEOPLE

Posted by: nathan | September 24, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Another Palin apologist. These so called interviews are all orchestrated and controlled appearances. This whole orchestrated McC campaign stinks. They are afraid to face the American people for what ever reason. This last charade by McC not to debate is another dodge. He needs to face the American people and answer the hard questions - if the media has the guts to ask him.

"Some attack Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Pallin for avoiding the press, (although Katie Couric has the second major TV anchor interview coming up tonight on CBS)"

Posted by: Lynne | September 24, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Then there is this:

In national surveys, McCain leads by 2 points, 47 percent to 45 percent, according to CNN's poll of polls released Monday night.

Who you gonna believe. I still remember the photo of newly elected President Truman holding the newspaper with the headline "Dewey Wins" !

Posted by: annonymouse | September 24, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

"Then you haven't polled in Texas or the south. That's hilarious. McCain/Palin"

Who cares Texas thinks?

Posted by: tom | September 24, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Whine on! GO OBAMA GO!!!!

Posted by: Rebelle | September 24, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow I'm surprised, but should not be, by GOPs blaming every Dem. all the way back to Jimmy Carter?! The GOP needs to go through the 12 step program, stat by admitting that they have been running this country, and the big ideas have not worked out. This is classic denial, then blaming others, next it will be the pleading (OH wait, they are, by asking to bailout the big ideas with tax payer money.) Deregulation let the greed run amok, the the horse is out of the barn. Or in other words, the pig in lipstick (economic policies) is out of the sty and stinking up the world.

Posted by: SoccerRef | September 24, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

That lipstick is wearing thin on that pig. Rep. are loosing so now they want to change the game. Typical. Whoever wins at least we won't have to hear that Dumb-Azz Bush Boy anymore.

Posted by: Dad | September 24, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I think that poll data is clearly skewed, that can happen when you poll a specific demographic trying to reach the conclusion you are looking for. The other side does it as well. There is a poll out there that still shows McCain leading in theirs. RCP's approach is interesting, it averages all of the big national ones to give a more realistic view. I think they should take it 1 step beyond that though and take and Olympics approach. Toss out the high and the low (or far left ABC and far right Battleground) and then average. It would be far more realistic.

Speaking to the economy; Obama's plan is scary. There is is plenty of supporting evidence out there in other countries that have implemented similar tax rates and ranges to conclude that it will increase unemployment and exacerbate the current economic problems. Anyone who thinks it's better to take the money from the corporations and not themselves thinking it will really work that way is simply delusional. Anyone who works for a company that operates around break even, better have an up to date resume. Most companies do not operate with high profitability, and use their profits to reinvest in growth and R&D, a chunck of that will now come out for taxes. Anyone who buys groceries or shops anywhere accept WalMart better modify their budget for goods.

At the end of the day, you think you are hurting rich people and won't be impacted personally, the reality is that rich people will continue to get richer either way, but the middle and lower classes will bear the full load in the end. I'd rather remain employed than get a $500 credit.

Take a step back from your selfishness for a second and consider that $200k in Manhattan, NY is roughly = to 83k in Hattiesburg, MS or 101k in Chicago, IL once cost of living is factored in. I don't live in any of these places or make 200k where I do live, but it is something to think about. If 200k is rich in Manhattan, NY then the new Obama tax rate should be the same for anyone living in Hattiesburg, MS making 83k, or Chicago, IL making 101k. .(source: CNN Money, cost of living calculator).

Posted by: MikeVa | September 24, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama has been ahead in the polls for months. They don't even poll people with cell phones and that's Obama's largest base. If he's 10 points ahead in landline polls, he's 30 points ahead when cells are added to the mix. The media has been playing up McCain for months. Every time he gets in trouble his poll numbers go up. I think the media is starting to realize that we're not falling for their little scam anymore. After McCain did that ad saying Obama wanted to teach sex ed. to kindergarten children everyone in the country knew he was nothing but a liar. They might pull a fast one next week by saying that the NRA is siding with McCain and pushing him ahead in the polls, but it'll be nothing but a bunch of bull.

Posted by: Hemi | September 24, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

polls don't mean much
they are seldom representative
and they do not take into consideration the elctoral college method

this lists ALL polls todate
it's trends that matter...
it appears we have seen a seperation or divergence in obamas favor, and if it hold true, bad news for mccain

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/poll-tracker.htm

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Then you haven't polled in Texas or the south. That's hilarious.

McCain/Palin

Posted by: annonymouse | September 24, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't put much stock in polls - don't know what the questions are that were asked nor how the sampling was done and whether the results are sound. People are worried about the economy because the political candidates and party are calling things the worse since the depression. The media plays into these claims but by many measures, things are not as bad as we would be led to believe. Read this article and reflect on what you have heard and the reality: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202415.html

Posted by: Jim | September 24, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

I'm reminded here (and almost constantly lately) of all the times when pranksters put a dog, a pig or a frog on the ballot then watch all the votes they get.
I think you all should note that the theme in this election has boiled down to "Anybody but _______"
You can write in Jesse Ventura or push that McCain/Palin button, but most unhappy Americans who take the time to vote will vote for the Democrats. If you're happy today and still happy on Nov. 4, vote for Bush III, oops ... I meant to write McCain.

Posted by: GeeWhiz | September 24, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The more Mr. McCain opens his mouth, the further he appears to put his foot in it. Other than being the victim of prisoner abuses, he really is just and empty suit. Lots of men suffered just as he did, but none of them had an Admiral for a father and grandfather. He got all the attention and is still cashing in on it.

Posted by: Michael Tatom | September 24, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I think companies should pay their taxes.

The conservative movement will have everyone believe that 90% of all americans pay no federal income taxes, I make 30k a year and I still have to pay FICA and I dont get that money back.

If you want access to this market, the largest most powerfull market in the world and you want the protection of the American Government then you should pay, and the more money you make then you should contribute more, not hide behind some tax shelter in the Cayman Islands.

Posted by: oto | September 24, 2008 3:01 PM

Oto you are a prime example why not everyone should be allowed to vote unless you display at least a small amount of intelligence.

FICA is Social Security NOT income tax, you doofus. You wont get that back until you retire. Imagine how many people dont know that and those are the folks voting for Barry.

Excuse me I have to go pay taxes for the other 62% of the country.

Posted by: RU that dumb? | September 24, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

The effect of this MSM effort to make news that they are calling a “poll” is that the Democrats are mislead into thinking that Obama is clearly winning (and giving a false crutch leading to the Obama version of the Kael effect - “How could McGovern lose? Everyone I know voted for him.”).
So when Obama "underperforms" in the fall and he loses, the Libs will go into a shrill "stolen election" frenzy, 2008-style.

Posted by: Jon Do | September 24, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the only choice.
If the west wants peace (through Islam, and the forgiveness of Muhammad, blessed be his name), then Obama is the only logical way out.
Don't be foolish, we number 82 million.

Posted by: Abdul-Tawaab | September 24, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

McCain's fear mongering will hurt the economy even more. Bush is like the boy who cried wolf. We had to go to Iraq, we had to suspend habeus corpus, we had to pass the Patriot Act, homeland security, ect. Now we HAVE to pay for their idiocy or the sky will fall.

Posted by: Matthew | September 24, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

It clear that McCain is using the fiscal crisis to skip out on the debates because he has no program or ideas to address it. Basically he's afraid to publicly justify his selection of Palin, his closeness to the Keating S&L scandal, his 95% closeness to Bush, his hidden health history, his mendacious ad campaign, and his absolute dearth of a vision for America's future or the ability to articulate one.
Don't let them get away with it.

Posted by: MIKE EVANS | September 24, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

As my Economics professor always liked to say, 'statistics is a liar's math' and can be manipulated in anyway once chooses. Same for how questions are posed to those being polled. Secondly, polls are really more of an emotional response to these questions and that response can change depending on when they are asked and by whom. I have never seen any of gallups questions, the demographics used, etc etc and that is true of all of the Polls seen thus far.
So, that said it appears the polls are merely used by the so called agencies to elicit more hits on their websites.

One other thought, does anyone seriously think the news media is not in favor of Obama? I did a quick search on several sites and counted the negative vs positive against Obama and McCain and found it heavily in favor of Obama. So, does Obama really need to spend anymore money on campaigning?

Posted by: GARY R | September 24, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing that people focus their decision to vote on simple issues that Presidents never change once in office. It is also amazing that the group that has grown the government to the largest size ever and grown the deficit to the larges size ever are given any credence when it comes to our future. The people that are afraid of being taxed if Obama gets into office are the ones that will benefit the most if he actually wins. On McCain, if he wouldn't have turned into another lying Carl Rove puppet, I may have voted for him. Instead, he became the same puppet that Bush did when we, as a country, let him lie and deceive his way into office. It's time to make the republicans accountable for their mistakes, lies, and deceitful nature. You can't be the party of integrity when you lie and cheat your way to office, you can't call yourself a fiscal conservative when you grow the gov't and outspend anyone in the history of our country and you can't say you stand for the rights of the American people when you create laws to invade their privacy. Now lets talk about how the free market has caused all of us to suffer in the last several weeks. I hope you have cash hidden in your mattress.

Posted by: Russell | September 24, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

It really does take a crisis to bring out the absolute WORST in people. The degree of thinly-disguised hate venom being spewed by Obama's opponents posted on this forum and elsewhere is the most solid evidence to date that they're going completely bonkers with fear.

As the financial crisis deepens -- with revelations of FBI investigations of possible criminal fraud by executives and staff at Wall Street firms at the center of the storm, combined with the revelation that McCain's campaign manager has direct ties to AIG and Sarah Palin's rapidly-worsening relations with the press (even Fox News), is it any wonder that McCain is trying to duck out of Friday night's debate? He's had a absolutely God-awful week, and it's far from over.

The McCain campaign is collapsing and his supporters are freaking out about it. That's the bottom line.

Fear must not be the winnner on November 4.

OBAMA '08!

Posted by: SkeeterVT | September 24, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Mr. De-regulation now wants to spend 700 billion to bail out Wall Street! He is even suspending his campaign, how sweet. We need strict regulations put in place immediately before these crooks get dollar one.

Posted by: Matthew | September 24, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

are you serious that Repubs STILL beleive Obama will spend more? Howe in the name of all that is holy do you spend more than the Republican Congress and Administration of the last 7 years?! A National Debt of $10 Trillion dollars?! Please wake the heck up!

And just what did all that spending do for me and you? Well it lead to the deaths of 4100 US service men and women in Iraq, Unemployment over 6%, a failing economy which will leech off our tax money for decades to come.

What will Obama spend money on? Universal Healthcare, Social Security restructuring and Civic improvement projects across the nation.
I'd rather let someone who cares about me spend my tax money rather than let some old coot continue to give it to his corporate buddies.

Posted by: boggled | September 24, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

They have a point: the media only reports on the most exciting polls, which are the least likely to be accurate.

However, their attacks for supposed partisanship have little merit. ABC in particular went after Obama quite hard during the primaries. They played the Rev. Wright clips as much as FOX News did.

If you want REAL analysis of where the race is, try RealClearPolitics or FiveThirtyEight.com for some proper numbers. Yes, RCP leans Republican just as 538 leans Democrat, so you can take your pick, but both are pretty careful about caring more for accuracy than partisanship in their polling numbers.

And now I leave you to complain about media "bias" amongst yourselves. Please don't let little tidbits about whether the facts in any given story are accurate or not get in the way. Because we all know that the truth is Republican exactly 50% of the time and Democratic the other 50%, so anyone who doesn't report them in that precise measure is "in the tank."

God forbid the facts shape the stories rather than things going the other way around.

Posted by: Joe | September 24, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Would you ever admit to anyone that you voted Republican in the coming election after what the Republicans have put this country through in the past 8 years ? Not just the President, I'm talking about ALL Republicans. I sure wouldn't !!!!!!!

Posted by: Bob in Copperopolis Ca. | September 24, 2008 4:05 PM

______________________
you mean perverts like foley & the 'bathroom stall' guy?

family values ftw!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Why do either of the candidates care about what the polls say? Who actually believes these polls? Nobody has ever polled me, I don't know anyone who's ever been polled, they seem to change every day and I see no reason to place any value on them.
But a candidiate who speaks out against the polls when they are losing in them? What does that tell you? Is the McCain camp worried about their image? Why would they be worried about their image? Why would they blame image problems on the "liberal media"? Why do they get so defensive about everything?
Why?

Posted by: tom | September 24, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Neither Kerry nor Gore ever had more than 50% in the WAPO/ABC poll this close to election day... if history is any indication... Democrats are sittin' pretty right now! :)

Posted by: Blake | September 24, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Any poll at this point is going to watched closely by both sides including posters. McCain's war room lead by Schmidt will scream the loudest if they are behind and might start calling the mainstream media other names now.

What disappointing is that McCain now wants to cancel the debates so he can do some grandstanding? Maybe hes not ready for the debate? He sure isn't ready for any questions from reporters for over 40 days now.

Posted by: Andy | September 24, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that people can't respond in a civil way. These comments are getting as vapid as the Washington Post.

Both McCain and Obama are wondering what to do. So is the entire Congress - so attacking one side or the other makes no sense.

I applaud Obama for calling on McCain to issue a joint statment on this- though I think it is a self protective mechanism ensuring that neither comes out on the wrong side of this.

I applaud McCain for suspending his campaign and coming back to DC till this is settled-at least initially- and for asking that the debate be postponed.

I think both candidates will look a little silly answering questions only on foreign policy while the electorate is totally focused on this economic crisis.

Posted by: peter DC | September 24, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I just find it interesting how so many people will site polls when their candidate is leading. When the other guy is leading people begin to discredit polls.

The same can be true when attacking the media. Many right wingers will attack the NY Times, but act as if Fox News is not biased.

What also goes unnoticed is the bias and influence local media has. Ever watched or read the news in Kentucky or parts of California? One is extremely conservative and the other is extremely liberal.

I suspect each side is trying to influence independent voters, who will actually determine this election.

Quit being a bunch of whinners!

Posted by: McBush | September 24, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Would you ever admit to anyone that you voted Republican in the coming election after what the Republicans have put this country through in the past 8 years ? Not just the President, I'm talking about ALL Republicans. I sure wouldn't !!!!!!!

Posted by: Bob in Copperopolis Ca. | September 24, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

The comming election is rigged.
Doesn't matter who you vote for, the media and corporate executives from around the globe have already decide on the man who would best destroy America.
And ya'll are actually falling in line behind them.
The facts on the table are being ignored, and anyone who ignores the facts shouldn't be allowed to vote.
But don't take my word for it. If your man Obama is elected you'll suffer enough to suit me.

Posted by: Thozman | September 24, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Please look at the suburbs of chicageo where Sen. Obama has said he led community org's, are they ANY better off? I guess maybe the ones that are boarded up are, but none of the others! Obama wants to legalize prostitution! He must! its a womens right to choose what they do with their bodies! Yes? no? ((logical conclusion) how about self mutilation, suicide, the list goes on.

Posted by: Dan4truth | September 24, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

McCAIN HISTORY CANNOT BE REWRITTEN - WHY OBAMA SHOULD LEAD IN POLLS
Since 1989, the financial services, insurance and real estate industries have contributed $23.8 million to McCain's campaigns, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. This sector far outspent any other industry in making donations to the Arizona senator.

In the 1980's McCain was involved in the Keating Five scandal, that epitomized Washington's culture of corruption. He and five other senators tried to intimidate federal bank regulators on behalf of McCain friend Charles Keating, an Arizona real estate developer and owner of Lincoln Savings and Loan, who had raised $1.3 million for the politicians.

In the 1980s he also favored the deregulation of the Savings and Loan industry, which led to the industry's collapse and a taxpayers' bailout of more than $500 billion.

In 1999, McCain supported the banking industry's top priority, the Gramm-
Leach-Bliley Act, which turned out to be a major disaster.Orchestrated by Senator Phil Gramm of Texas, the bill further deregulated the banking and insurance industry and is directly responsible for the current wave of home foreclosures and bank failures. It tore down the last remaining legal barriers to combining commercial banking, investment banking and insurance under one corporate roof.

Phil Gramm, McCain's top economic advisor and former campaign co-chair, was the chief architect of the deregulation laws. Like McCain, Gramm was a free-market fundamentalist and a puppet of the financial industry.

If Freddie Mac & Fannie Mae paid $3 or 4,000,000 to McCain Campaign Manager, Rick Davis'lobbying firm in order to avoid any regulation because of "his closeness to Senator McCain", logic would suggest that common wisdom was that closeness to Senator McCain = good for Dergulation. It has been reported that 20 of McCain's campaign and top contributors were lobbyists for Fannie & Freddie.

McCain announced his transition chief, if elected, would be William Timmons, a lobbyist for Freddie Mac who received $260,000 from them in 2008.

McCain recently claimed he was an early whistle-blower on Freddie & Fannie and spearheaded a Reform Act that was killed by the Democrats. Truth is Chuck Hagel was the author of the reform in Jan 2005, Sununu and Dole joined as cosponsors and 18 MONTHS LATER MCCAIN JOINED, however his cosponsors say "he was not really involved and hardly around" BUT HE MANAGED TO ADDRESS CONGRESS in 2006,using their work and words, saying he'd been concerned for years about F&F!!

In 2000 McCain blocked efforts to close the deregulatory "Enron" loophole which ultimately caused their collapse and is still being used by energy traders to game gasoline prices.

McCain Campaign has been smearing Obama re the $112,000 in HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUAL donations he received from Freddie & Fannie EMPLOYEES....BUT..McCain received $169,000 from the mortgage companies and their affiliates and two Freddie board members (Boisi & Hohlt, also a Freddie lobbyist) are bundlers who've raised between $100,000-$250,000 for McCain!

In 2008, just a short time ago, McCain said "Deregulation has been good for the economy...I am a Deregulator."

He can claim to be a born-again Regulator and a corny cokeyed populist, but he can't rewrite his history and his history would unquestionably repeat itself if ever he got to the White House.

Posted by: Annemarie | September 24, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Please give us eight more years of:

Security
Freedom
Prosperity

If you haven't prospered under the current admin. you are a fiscal idiot.

McCain/Palin 08/12

Just say Nobamma.

Posted by: Eight More Years Please | September 24, 2008 4:01 PM

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this coming from a guy on wefare

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

big green said,"I hope, for the sake of blue collar and middle class America, that this pole is accurate." riiiight... wow! big green have you ever been "poled"? i think so...

Posted by: trey_trey | September 24, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Matt Vorwald-Proofread your own post-don't have any idea what a "jouralist" is (and there are to real "journalists" left, just lackeys for Obama!). I seem to remember a saying about "glass houses and stones"...

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

for America's sake let this be true...

mccain will sell us out
palin will blow us up

hot headed senile & jesus freak psycho

dear Lord please save us from these 2

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Jeez even when Republicans got the Convention / Sarah Palin is God 'bounce' Democrats weren't attacking the polls. That seems incredibly desperate.

Posted by: Chris | September 24, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Please give us eight more years of:

Security
Freedom
Prosperity

If you haven't prospered under the current admin. you are a fiscal idiot.

McCain/Palin 08/12

Just say Nobamma.

Posted by: Eight More Years Please | September 24, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Sampear! Once an idiot is always an idiot...And you are an idiot!

Posted by: Cubob | September 24, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse


Kerry led the polls going into the election.

Kerry also led all of the exit polls.

So what ever happened to President Kerry?

Posted by: reason | September 24, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Dan wrote:

"Younger folks are more likely to vote for a change in direction, where older folks will go down with the Republican ship even if it means financial ruin for them and this country."

The key phrase is: "Younger folks are more likely to vote."

Unfortunately, they're not. That's why we had 8 years of Bush.

Posted by: Tom | September 24, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse


Oh you poor, poor Bushies and Righties - -

McLiar DUG UP SO MUCH DIRT FOR HIMSELF THAT HE , HIS ''WASILLA GIRL'' / ''EYE-CANDY'' and ALL YOU REPUGNANTS ARE GOING TO GET B-U-R-I-E-D IN A LANDSLIDE !!!!!!!!!!!!


Me thinks what the Repugnant Party URGENTLY needs, is a GOOD OLD FASHIONED ENEMA, to get RID OFF ALL THE CRAP THAT HAS SUBSUMED IT IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS - -
Amen !

Posted by: Hussien for America | September 24, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I hope, for the sake of blue collar and middle class America, that this pole is accurate. Can the United States of America endure another 4 or 8 years of sloppy, corrupt economic handling and reckless foreign policy? Maybe so, but we will no longer be seen - neither by its citizens nor by the foreign onlookers - as the great country we once were.

Posted by: BigGreen | September 24, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"It was the Democratic Congress who demanded that Banks approve mortgages to unqualified people as a form of affirmative action home ownership. Barack Obama was a one of the key advocates of this idiotic policy through ACORN. When Alan Greenspan and the Republicans sounded the alarm in 2005"

Hey Mike, I hate to tell you this, but you're wrong. Republicans controlled the Congress from 2001-2005 as well as the White House. During the Bush presidency with Republicans in control of the White House and Congress, we got the biggest and most expensive government in US history, the blame goes all on their shoulders.

Posted by: Sarah Johnson | September 24, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

John McCain just admitted he hates his country. He also said he believes only the military should have guns, not individuals.

Posted by: formerrepublican | September 24, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Not voting for OBAMA would be a huge mistake and a disaster for this country.

Entrusting the hot-headed Grandpa McCain with his "shoot first ask questions later" temperament to take care of Economy and War is just plain silly.

Its foolish to keep voting the same people and expecting a different result.
Vote OBAMA/BIDEN, Vote for you future.

Posted by: Politico | September 24, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

The question should be - Who will you vote for this election?
I'm sure the numbers will change.
Did they say where the poll was done? Could have been NYC or DC?

Posted by: Joe | September 24, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Feaver, would you please spell Sarah Palin's last name correctly? You've misspelled it -- twice!

Posted by: juliet | September 24, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Lurch (Paulson) and the idiot (Bush) are putting the veil over your eyes, do you really think you will ever see this money again?, then you really are a cool aid drinker, go join your pals hannity and the fat drug addict Limbaugh.

Posted by: oto | September 24, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Just on the news: Barak Hussein Obama admits, "I was raised by my father to be a terrorist first then by my mother to be an educated elitist to dupe you all. I was raised to attack America any way I can and as President I will be able to bring America down!"

Posted by: Truth Democrat | September 24, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Take a look at Chicago , folks , if you want to see how we will look if obama is elected...He and his crooked dem cohorts have done a 'great' job....more murders in one month than in Irag ...schools are the worst in the country...taxes are sky high, and check out the debt .....and they can't even blame the rep. because there aren't any in charge there.....and they have gun control....and you think he will be good on the economy? only to fill the pockets of he and his 'friends'..see him for what he is --not what you want him to be...I'll bet you don't even know who is in charge in Illinois Look it up and see how many names are 'famous'! there is proof if you only look for it.....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The economy is the most important issue; and Obama has a better chance of addressing it. There shouldn't be any bail out of the fat cats on Wall street. These people should have been laid off or fired long time ago. What was the SEC, the Securities and Exchange Commission, doing ? When some Wall Street guys were getting bonuses of 50 million dollars each Christmas it should have rang a bell somewhere. What wealth were they exactly creating while most Americans were having it hard to pay their bills let alone get hired ? There were trading the only "viable" stocks that were there - subprime home mortgage loans - because every American dreams of the American Dream, so it is easy to see how they got sucked in and taken in by the thieves on Wall Street. How many times can you keep trading the same failing stocks back and forth before you find out the sh*t is/was going to hit the fun. The bogus hedge funds based on derivatives that guaranteed huge profits and bonus for seller/traders and their equally corrput arbitrage lawyers is what brought about the mess. Creating financial instruments based on derivatives out of failing stocks can hardly be called creating or helping creat wealth. And why in the world should anybody on earth, be they Wall Street fat cats or not, be paid money on leaving a job the have failed in ? Where is the incentive for anybody, hired on this lunatic terms, to succeed ? And who in the world is worth that much, when we all know in reality it takes thousands and thousands of equally skilled employees to run these huge corporations. It is the phoniest and dirtiest contractual terms ever concttated and perpetrated any legimate business in the history of mankind. It must and has to stop.

Posted by: Jordan | September 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

McCain campaign sounds alot like the mid 50s t.v. shows. We have the rifleman/Lucas McCain, Maverick/a gambler, North to Alaska/the race is on,Palidan/have gun will travel.

Posted by: franker | September 24, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

please read all sides of the arguments before making a decision. read economic info. who's consistent, who flip flops, and who knows nothing except their geographical location in proximity to russia! good thing palin was able to beef up her resume yesterday by 500%, cause we look embarrassing to the rest of the world with her "celebrity" popularity. Didn't she work from home 310 days last year and no one in state gov could get in touch from 600 miles away?

Posted by: ed | September 24, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

If you're afraid Obama will spend too much then vote for a Rebublican for congress and Obama for President.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

To whoever wrote "Jimmy Carter started this" - when are the Republicans going to take responsibility for anything that happens on their watch?

Posted by: greyparrot | September 24, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

We've got a Harvard grad vs. a man who thinks Spain is in Latin America, and the chair of the foreign relations committee and former chair of the judiciary committee vs. a woman who thinks proximity to Russia is the same thing as knowing something about it.

If you're still voting for McCain/Palin, it's not because you respect their intelligence.

Posted by: peet | September 24, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

"The interesting thing is that most of these polls don't include young people for the most part as they tend to use cell phones instead of land lines. I do believe the kids are fixing to run a little wild this year and could change the whole shape of this election. I've have never seen them so excited. I also wonder if the polls are capturing all of the newly registered voters. The Obama ground operation has registered millions."

This needs to be said again. Most people my age (40) and younger don't have land lines anymore and don't get polled. And we break for Obama over McCain in double digit percentages. Younger folks are more likely to vote for a change in direction, where older folks will go down with the Republican ship even if it means financial ruin for them and this country.

Posted by: Dan | September 24, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Mr. Feaver,

It's always interesting to see a mirror of the opinions of the bloggers to your site.

Regarding your comment about Mrs Palin and the McCain team providing access to her using the CBS/Katie Couric TV anchor woman interview coming up. I think this is woefully insufficient a contribution towards what is needed. This is a horrific situation where an "unknown" VP nominee is not vetted by highly-respected journalists (print AND TV media)while being a heartbeat from the presidency. I cry for our democracy that this McCain/Republican party is circumventing our democratic due process. That they use a hurrican of lies to create an opaque shield around themselves and to paint any picture they wish should unsettle us all. I am angry and sad that the media isn't harder and that more people don't get educated. We are led by the willfully ignorant.

Since Mr. McCain is 72 yrs old with a history of multiple cases of melanoma cancer and will take on the most stressful thought-provoking position in the world, the Republican VP should have been 1st rate and reflect Mr. McCain's Country First mantra and his first duty as president. Mr. McCain failed his first duty and played politics with an American Idol of his base.

That the financial collapse affected this is no surprise. Economics has always been top of the list of issues by polling. The financial crash has cleared the deck of fog and provides people a clear view no matter who they are. Some people take that reset seriously and some don't.

Posted by: lucy2008 | September 24, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

The Iowa Electronic Market has outperformed other polls since 1988 74% of the time, and is by the far the most accurate tool for predicting the outcome of the presidential race. while there is no electoral college info available, the popular vote has Obama in a secure lead that hasn't fluctuated much even after the supposed post Rep Convention "surge". The methodology of open markets literally gets voters to "put their money where their mouth is".

Based on its accuracy, I think McCain-Palin ticket should see the handwriting on the wall.

Posted by: chezfitz | September 24, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

hey "true patriot"

we left the Democratic party because of Obama

he is a disaster [and he also destroyed the dem party]

not everyone against obama is a rightwinger

voting obama would be a HUGE mistake

Posted by: obama fraud | September 24, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Everyone is commenting on what they've heard in the "News" or read in the "News". If you want to know what the candidates stand for and what their agenda for the country is, then go to the candidates respective websites and read it for yourselves. There is nothing more irritating and scary to me than to see the bulk of voters opinions coming from the media. Forget cnn, fox, abc, etc.. Watch C-Span. And form your own opinion based on what you've seen and heard first hand and undiluted the "wide world of sports" style of reporting that I am seeing these days. Please do this no matter who you vote for. Get the facts for your self. Please.

Posted by: LordDarklock | September 24, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

It was the Democratic Congress who demanded that Banks approve mortgages to unqualified people as a form of affirmative action home ownership. Barack Obama was a one of the key advocates of this idiotic policy through ACORN. When Alan Greenspan and the Republicans sounded the alarm in 2005, the Democrats blocked action to head off the pending mortgage crash. Now the Democrats want Obama to work with the Democratic Congress to fix the economic disaster they created. True to form, Democrats create a mess and then try to dodge any responsibility.

Posted by: Mike Johnson | September 24, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Nick: We'll explain to you how we justify it: We just don't have enough guts to vote for anybody else! We can't vote for Obama, someone who is so smart and well liked and who is not one of the good ol' boys. Our plan is to vote Palin/McCain and then just pray.

Posted by: McChickens | September 24, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT THE POLL RESULT
IT ONLY GIVE ONE SIDED STORY. IT IS ONLY
WHAT THEY LIKE TO HEAR. MEDIA BIAS IS VERY SICKENING. I HATE WHEN MEDIA USING THEIR PREVILLGE JUST TO BRING OTHER PARTY DOWN. IT IS NOT MEDIA PROFFESIONALISM
IT IS DIGRACE JOURNALISM.

Posted by: SPUD | September 24, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

People need to at least read some books,newspapers..magazines,read and learn.
If you spill out garbage,it reads as garbage.
What this country seems to be looking for is change,and at this point,that seems to be leaning towards Obama.We can either help with the change,or hinder it.
Here we are with another mess,and both parties are somewhat to blame,I say the republicans more than the democrats,because the republicans have been in charge a lot longer.This financial mess did not just appear out of thin air,it was a long time in the making.
Tonite George Bush will make an appearance on national tv.He will try to sell us on this bail out.How many times must we watch Bush on national tv and not know if he is telling the truth or not.Crying wolf one time to many is not good for any leader,in any country.Over 900 lies from this present administration going into Iraq war.What will we hear tonite?

Posted by: Lance Newell | September 24, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama is raking in grotesque amounts of campaign money, and he STILL is only neck in neck in a contest that belongs to Dems. He can't even win a sure thing.

He doesn't know how to put money to good use, nor does he have economic savvy.

Why would anyone entrust our country to him, esp. in a time of crisis?

He's a loser and phony, just like Bush was. Don't make the same mistake twice, America.

Obama won't even speak off script. He won't ever take a position on difficult decisions.

Posted by: NO NO NO NO-BAMA | September 24, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Man, you rightwing nutjobs are in full panic mode now!

These comments reek of desperation:
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"Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.Do we need a criminal in WH?
Posted by: Anonymous

Obama is the muslim communist with a communist agenda for this country.Do we need a muslim communist in WH?
Posted by: Anonymous

It's simple.

Vote for McCain before the United States of America is destroyed completely.

Posted by: Anonymous

The only thing I would use the Washington post for is....won't go there. You mean to tell me there is someone else running for President beside Osama, excuse me Obama, I get the two confused since there are so many similarities.

Posted by: Gail"
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Nutjobs, I know change is scary but that's how we progress as a nation. Don't be afraid. It is inevetable. And for you bigots, you must realize we are all humans. Mr. Obama is American. Names and skin colors may be different but we all bleed red. Please do not teach this hatred to your children. It is unAmerican.

Posted by: TruePatriot | September 24, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Bushie is back to old tricks. Now that he will be kicked on his butt after taking the country down to the biggest financial debacle of all time, he will try to get all the money he can for his pals. This money, the 700 billions (700 thousand million dollars) will be used to put all the companies. I bet you that the idiot bush and lurch, Paulson, will have a job with a lot of money in the bag.

Posted by: oto | September 24, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, yeah, yeah....."Dewey defeats Truman"...only problem is - IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

As you can see - polls change from week to week, day to day....I believe the debates will really settle everything - one way or another....unless they are a basic "draw", then Obama will lose on lack of experience but by a small margin.

Posted by: JRD | September 24, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

you can't blame the Dems in congress, because they don't have a real majority:

REPUBLICANS HAVE FILIBUSTERED A RECORD NUMBER OF TIMES SINCE 2006, OBSTRUCTING ANY MEANINGFUL LEGISLATION.

And when Congress DOES pass a good bill, guess what happens? BUSH VETOES IT!

We need a *real* majority in congress, and a president who will sign meaningful legislation, instead of the obstructionist republicans and the idiot Bush.

Posted by: Dave | September 24, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

So does this mean that when a poll favors John McCain, it is also biased? Or would that be that for McCain supporters (or insert any name) when a poll agrees with them\us or tells them\us what they want to hear, there can be no bias involved?

We seem to have trouble with double statndards.

Not that polls, as with most things now days shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt, I think without further qualification and explanation, it is difficult to measure bias charges of bias equally.

Because a poll does not tell us what we want to hear, is it truly biased? Can we articulate and point to some very good logic that explains our suspicions of bias? Why are polls that tell us what we want to hear not equally bias based on the same superficial set of standards, namely and simply, they are or aren't telling us what we want to hear?

If there is or is not bias in anything we comment on, I believe we also have to make a detailed case for why we believe there is or is not bias, not simply say that it's biased because we're a Democrat or we're a Republican and we don't like it when a poll says the opposition party candidate has the advantage.

This does not excuse or dismiss the existence of actual bias, it just means we need to make more of a case for proving any allegations of bias than the superficial, we don't like what a report (poll)says, regardless of it's truth or accuracy and using that as the main or only criteria for bias.

Posted by: Speakout1 | September 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama wins - Palin to Senate. She comes out swinging in four years and is elected (first women)President.

Posted by: zee | September 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Can I ask one question? What discussion are you really looking for? Neither will have the answer outside of sitting in the White House. AGAIN... EXPERIENCE DOES NOT BEGIN FOR A 1ST TERM PRESIDENT UNTIL HE STEPS IN OFFICE. PERIOD!!!! McCain has been spinning lies about taxes because the American people are so easy to believe it. There is NO ONE WAY to solve this economic crisis. I'll ask a few simple questions. Obama said the stimulus package should have been much more. I agree. Considering OUR SPENDING is what drives the economy. Please don't get technical on that statement, because you know what I mean. Instead, congress is being forced to bailout.... again... the rich. What percentage of the $700 billion is Iraq willing to contribute? Maybe an immediate pullout of our troops???? The same people wanting to prevent attacks weren't willing to prevent impending economic disaster and stayed with Bush and the Iraq war. "Support your troops" Heck we can't even support ourselves. Just imagine what many of those troops are having to face. We don't see or hear it because many Americans just care that they shoot somebody down. And instead of moving towards change America is still willing to buy into War Happy McCain and his joke of a sidekick, not because she is a woman, but because she is being USED and yet woman are supporting this act. The very act they want to get around. Sad. Put Obama in office and I can almost guarantee you there will be a serious change and advancement for women. Why? Because Obama and Hillary plans are so close they WILL negotiate to meet in the middle. Peace!

Posted by: Greg | September 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

We can all disagree on various policy issues, but does anyone honestly think that McCain/Palin has what it takes to grind a bit of progress out of the phenomenal mess that Bush/Cheney has brought us? Can we please have intelligence, effort and a bigger worldview for at least the next 4 years?
I can't find anyone who admits to voting for Bush in 2004. That says alot about McCain's chances, which are getting more meager every hour.

Posted by: Joe G | September 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

If you rightwingers aren't listening to the news right now, better turn on the TV. McCain just threw in the towel. He's given up. Who will be the nominee now?? Palin? Romney??

The republicans are DONE!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

arrogance and greed.......

who in their right minds would want to vote
republican after these eight years?

Posted by: frank | September 24, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

McCain is finished! He's AFRAID to debate Obama. If he thinks he's dropping in today's polls, just wait until tomorrow. I hope he has his seatbelt on!

Posted by: Bill | September 24, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Doug Feaver...

Palin hasn't had a press conference yet. 6 weeks. No press conference. Unbelievably incompetent. It's criminally negligent for Republicans to assert she should be the VP of our country. It's a stain on our flag.

Don't try and pretend Katie Couric is a reasonable substitute for actual journalism.

Posted by: JD | September 24, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Are know there is a lot of science, and art, to doing a poll. But I am reminded of a TV Guide cartoon from many years ago where the wife is on a phone in the background shouting to her husband that "it's those Nielson guys on the phone again and they want to know what we're watching," and the huband answers "tell them McNeil-Lehrer" while the next panel shows Archie and Edith singing "Those Were The Days..." on their TV.

Posted by: Dale Strauss | September 24, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"I love these pollsters. This is the same poll that had Obama up 10 points over Hillary in Pennsylvania and Ohio.
DREAM ON! Change we need? Not hardley. Americans are not the unintelligent people that Obama thinks we are.

Posted by: G D America will not elect Obama | September 24, 2008 3:06 PM

Im pretty sure McCain is the unintelligent one..he clearly cant do simple research on Obama's tax cut plans..instead he makes up lies and has them approved for ad's.

You know how i know your a McCain and Pallin supporter??
You think our country does not need change. Just take a look at our economy.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

mccain sold his honor. he took his campaign to the gutter. he broke his word.
in my state, Barack Obama enjoys a broad coalition of support that includes people of every race, religious, economic, & political background. every where we look, we see the destruction wrought by bush and we are sick at heart. we will be proud to vote Obama/Biden08 for change we can believe! God Bless America!

Posted by: lawrence2xl | September 24, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

NO Osama/Biden

Women,

vote McCain '08
Clinton 2012

Posted by: NO-sama | September 24, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Dear Midwest,

How would I know? I would know because I'm an elementary school teacher. An elementary school teacher who knows that there are 6th graders out there having sex, because their own parents haven't talked to them about it. Have you talked to your daughter about sex, and I don't just mean the "just don't have sex" talk? Children, yes children, are having sex, and parents need to be open to discussing sex with their children. I'm not suggesting you say "go ahead and have sex" but I am suggesting you present yourself as someone who is open to your child no matter what choice he/she may make.

Posted by: Jen86 | September 24, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

This polling is fault becasuse it sampled more blacks and democrats.

Posted by: WrongSample | September 24, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Polls are notoriously misleading, and are really nothing more than misinterpreted information used by the media to keep people interested. In reality it is obvious to most intelligent people that Obama clearly has a larger following and should/will win this election pretty easily. However, if the press reported this then nobody would care anymore, and they would have to actually work and do real reporting again. Republicans: I don't necessarily love Obama, but how can you justify supporting a presidential candidate that can't even use a personal computer, has said he doesn't understand the economy, and his VP choice would be an obvious disaster if she ever had to take over? There is NO way to justify it, no matter what little arguments you want to make.

Posted by: Nick | September 24, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Polls are like the wikipedia for what should be considered "credible" in a college paper

Its a dipstick into the psyche of a group of random or selected Americans

With a margin of error of 3-5%, Obama is still in the lead....also these polls dont show the recent information that Rick Davis, McCains campaing Manager, was still on the fannie and freddie mac payroll until last month

If McCain were the man he was in 2000, this contest would be over

the mccain of 2008 is a bush carbon copy and we wont fall for it again

Posted by: Oregon4Obama | September 24, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Any popular vote poll means nothing. You have to look at individual state polls to really find out anything. The electoral college is where this thing will be won or lost, not a nation wide popularity contest.

Posted by: Ron E | September 24, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

I find is laughable and quite disconcerting that readers actually think that a major newspaper would fabricate the results of a poll or conduct a poll in an unethical manner. Admittedly, it may have been more appropriate for The Post to report other polls in conjunction with their results given the disparity among polls. But to actually assert that The Post is making up poll results to advance Obama's campaign shows just how much partisanship and irrational cynicism there is out there.

Posted by: Greg | September 24, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

McPain/Failin 2008

The only way McCain could get my vote was if he picked RON PAUL as VP.

Does anyone think McCain has had some terrible luck?

Forestal disaster. Shot down in Nam. POW for 5 years. 1st wife crippled in a car wreck.

Methinks there is some Karma coming round for something, anyone know what possibly he could have done, or his parents to bring about such horrible luck?

I see 911 as a warning, and with McCain's bad luck, we could witness something much worse.

I suppose the USA has quite a bit of negative Karma stored up since 911. And we are starting to get a taste regardless of who ends up in the whiteroom.(whitehouse)

Posted by: Earl E | September 24, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

As if Barack Obama has some ingenious plan to "fix" the economy, (raising your taxes). Obama is no different than any other common criminal in the Senate or Congress. Voting for Obama would turn the USA into a third-world nation in a matter of months. The Illinois superstar candidate/street organizer is a complete fraud.

Posted by: Superpower | September 24, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA AVOIDS THE PRESS.

OBAMA AVOIDS DEBATES AND TOWNHALL FORUMS.

OBAMA HAS NO FOREIGN POLICY OR ECONOMIC QUALIFICATIONS.

WE ARE DEMS VOTING MCCAIN. MCCAIN WILL BE UNDER GREATER SCRUTINY AND WILL PERFORM BETTER.

OBAMA WILL BE GIVEN TOO MUCH LATITUDE TO SCREW UP - WHICH HE WILL - AND WE CAN'T AFFORD LATITUDE.

OBAMA ABANDONS HIS PLATFORM WHENEVER IT SERVES HIS POLITICAL AMBITION.

DO NOT VOTE OBAMA, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. WE CAN'T AFFORD HIM.

Posted by: DEMS FOR MCCAIN | September 24, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

As a former soldier I resent people speaking for the GI's, especially their parents. Ask the GI's they can speak for themselves.

Posted by: Tsquared | September 24, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't answer the phone unless I recognize the number on caller id. Who actually responds to these polls?

Polls are just giant guesses and often lean one way or the other simply by the way the question is asked or what demographic is polled.

I don't know who I'm voting for....would like a viable 3rd choice.

Fiscally Republican, Socially Democrat

Posted by: StuckInTheMiddle | September 24, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

TruePatriot - Agreed that Gail should leave NOW. If a mature, grown "adult" is ignorant enough to associate 'Obama' with 'Osama' (Wow, congratulations, you were able to recognize that the 2 rhyme!), then you're simply wasting yours and everyone else's time. That joke's over, we've all heard it before, grow up.

Instead of dumb nursery rhymes, let's focus on CHANGE, on the ECONOMY, and on electing a president that means it when he promises good for our country, a stabilization of the economy, and help for the dying middle class.

OBAMA/BIDEN '08!

Posted by: ObamaForPresident08 | September 24, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

i cant belive any one who thinks he can run this country obama says he will tax the big companeys but he supports the 700 billion dollar bail out so how can he tax them for his huge programs like health care and the giveaways it sure wont be the ones that make over 200.000 there are only 5percent of them in the country he cant deliver on anything without increase taxes on those who work my taxes are too high now the price on food gas and living are to high and now it looks like we are in for the mother of all tax increase

Posted by: wtobias | September 24, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Sandra S, nice baseless attack. No facts. Gee didn't expect that from some liberal hack!

Posted by: richdoode | September 24, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Posted by BlackHat:

"Wake up people! Was there a financial/economic crisis 2 years ago? No. Is there one now? Yes. And, over the last 2 years, who has been in control of the government? (Hint: The President's powers are VERY limited. He is not in control. The congress is. And the DEMOCRATS have been in control of congress for 2 years.)"

You, sir, have no clue how financial systems work if you think that this was a problem created by congress in the past two years. Try years of deregulation and lack of oversight by a mostly republican controlled cogress over past decades. Th financial mess was created well beofre the current congress took office.

Posted by: Wessia | September 24, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

My name is David G. Dickson. My Internet handle is DavidGD620. I have a BLOG under that handle. I lean to the left with humor and thoughtfulness. I had one commenter say that combining left or liberal and thoughtfulness in the same sentence is an oxymoron.

My goal is to teach my grandchildren and and others to think for themselves. I remember clearly in 1992 when Clinton defeated Bush I and every vituperous rightie came out of the woodwork and from under the rocks to swamp the incoming calls of C-SPAN during the morning call-in shows. Expect the same; the extreme right, KKK and Nazis die hard.

Posted by: DavidGD620 | September 24, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IS NOTHING MORE THAN AN EMPTY SUIT. IN TIME AND WITH SOME EXPERIENCE HE MIGHT BE THE TICKET, BUT TALK ABOUT LEARNING WHILE ON THE JOB. THIS IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AND OTHER THAN BEING ABLE TO GIVE A GREAT SPEECH... WHAT WOULD WE REALLY HAVE?

Posted by: MAGGIE | September 24, 2008 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Well you can't blame McCain for being just as scared of Obama we all are. He's just so smart that it's very intimidating.

Posted by: McChickens | September 24, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"Honest_Abe cheered, "...This further confirms that 2008 is not 2000 or 2004. Democrats are going to win this time. Yes we can!"

This is the problem with this country, note it's Democrats will win... rather than the right person for the job. When will we grow up as a nation and get over the whole - my candidate is better than your candidate because he's a donkey or and eliphant.

The only reason Obama has a high rating on the economy is because he's been able to completey excuse himself from being a contributer to the current problem some how and point the finger at only Bush. Many Americans are clearly quite dumb. Bush is guilty of doing nothing to fix the problem, but the problem primary problem at hand here pre-dates him. So, using that logic of Bush begin at fault because he did nothing to stop the problem, isn't Obama also guilty since he was in a position to change it as well?

Abstaining does not make you an expert on the economy. Obama chose to sit back and allow the same people he claims created the problem to propose a solution to fix it, then picked at it like a scab rather than trying to offer something useful to the discussion. That's no expert to me folks, it's an indecisive person playing to the emotionally charged nature of the short-sighted American public.

For the record, I don't believe that McCain offered much in the way of a feasible solution either. Though I do like the people he suggested to oversee the bail-out.

Posted by: MikeVa | September 24, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I agree. Obama should be leading by at least 10-20 points if the polls were accurate. Actually, I think they reflect the race factor. I only say that because there is a flurry of articles discounting his campaign with subtle hints that race may come into play and affect the vote. I am a white woman who is voting for a black man over a white woman because of his idealogy, not his race or gender. So again, I agree that the polls are not accurately reflecting his real lead. And McCain knows this and is scrambling around - he already is trying to cancel the debate because of the bailout bill, which only shows he is joining Bush, Paulson, Bernacke and others into trying to strongarm Congress into fast tracking a bill THEY quicly put together in the middle of the night. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice - FU.

Posted by: Sandra S | September 24, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

IMO, the Republicans have officially LOST the argument that Democrats just want to spend - spend - spend. Obviously and indisputably, the Republican have shown over the past 8 years that they are by far the most irresponsible money handlers in history.

I really don't want to hear any more Pubs complaining about how Dems spend money-- they no linger have any ground whatsoever to stand upon. But, since that's the only argument they have, I'm sure I'll continue to hear the same old song and dance.

Posted by: jeffrey | September 24, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

DWayne: What do you mean Biden invokes less apprehension than Palin? Who are we talking about here? Conservatives and Republicans are now quite happy with Palin. Already there are rumors that Obama will nix Biden and choose Hillary because of all of Biden's gaffs. I don't think it will happen but the rumors are out there. So...I don't think you know what you are talking about. Go back to school.

Posted by: MidWest | September 24, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Jimmy Carter put solar panels on the White House, Ronald Reagan took them off.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

The interesting thing is that most of these polls don't include young people for the most part as they tend to use cell phones instead of land lines. I do believe the kids are fixing to run a little wild this year and could change the whole shape of this election. I've have never seen them so excited. I also wonder if the polls are capturing all of the newly registered voters. The Obama ground operation has registered millions. We also now have the news that McCain is trying to postpone the debates when people are waiting to see them, especially undecideds. I've been canvassing in battleground states and alot of people are holding off until after the debates to make a decision. So we'll have to see how that flies.

Posted by: Pam LaPier | September 24, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

So we get mad when the media doesn't discuss the issues, but it is okay for us to bash each other's opinions and not discuss the issues. America is a joke, and our self centeredness, arrogantness and stupidty has put us in this situation. Until we wake up and learn to listen to each other, respect each other and our differing opinions we will never get it right. Let's try discussing the economy, the housing situation, the $700 billion dollars of taxpayers dollars that are being asked for, the war in Iraq, the job market... I mean we have alot we could be discussing and educating each other on. When will we realize that we can't change a person's beliefs but we can give them knowledge so that they are making an informed decision in November.

Posted by: Kandis | September 24, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

trustfundbuddy: Finally, some honesty and political reality!

Posted by: Jimmy | September 24, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

GOD I can't WAIT to see the faces of the militant GOP when they lose the election.

The young vote is going to be the biggest impact. PERIOD.
There are 117 Div. 1A colleges and ALL OF THEM have a majority in support for Obama.
Furthermore, that's not including Div.2,3,and smaller NAIA sized schools, which also have the majority for Obama. Then there is the Morehouse, Gramblings, Howards... that more than likely will unanimously vote for Obama.

Remember, there are more public schools than Regent University or the BYUs.

You guys are so screwed!
Na-na-na-nah....HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE!

Posted by: EvolutionINsight | September 24, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

People have to realize that no matter what polls will always have an air of bias. It's impossible to rely completely on the numbers provided by these polls, simply because we don't know the full parameters involved. So instead of freaking out about them, why not do something about them? Phonebank, host community events, things of that sort.

Posted by: Xander | September 24, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Dems have led congress for two years.

Dems promised a change two years ago (lower gas prices, less corruption,...)

Two years later, same story... it's still Bush's fault... and gas prices are killing the economy with no drilling in sight and Russia threatening our shores.

In the end one outcome is certain, government wins.

Posted by: Bob Hurley | September 24, 2008 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Liberals and Conservatives need to keep their ideals to themselves in the classroom. Teaching the subjects should be the core concern, not parenting, not condoms on cucumbers, not birth control for little girls, not forced prayer, not so called multiculturalism! Teach the damn subjects!!!!

Posted by: MidWest | September 24, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

richdoode, you think you're a rich dude? I think you're a Limbaugh neocon thug who is spreading the typical Repub lies and trash. Won't work this time dude. You get used to it for the next eight years. Oh yes, you don't deserve this country.

Posted by: Sandra S | September 24, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy into these polls. On the street Obama is beating McCain by a 2 to 1 margin.
On the internet Obama leads by the same margin. And if we look at donations we see once again Obama is leading by a 2 to 1 margin.
While both VP candidates register a high level of voter disdain, Biden invokes less apprehension than Palin does.
In the end, if these polls were a true reflection of voter sentiment, Obama would habe a 35 to 40 point lead.

Posted by: DWayne | September 24, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

BREAKING NEWS

MCCAIN IS STOPPING HIS CAMPAIGN AND WILL NOT DEBATE OBAMA.

Put a fork in him...

Posted by: Bill | September 24, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Just heard that McCain wants to postpone the Friday nite debate. Wow!

Rick

Posted by: rick | September 24, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

It's funny, I remember when the polls showed MCain up by 2% points I claimed the polls were wrong too.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Jen86: Have you seen the syllabus for the class(es)? Probably not, so how the hell do you know? I have seen the syllabus, not for the kindergarten classes, but starting in fourth grade. The plan does call for extensive 'sex' education beginning in elementary schools. In high school, students will actual watch a video on proper sex techniques! Come on!!! I do not want some school teacher teaching my child on sex techniques! Putting condoms on cucumbers for god's sake! How do you feel about your 13 year old daughter being able to take birth control (a hormone) WITHOUT ANY NEED FOR CONSENT FROM YOU??? This is already being done in Maine!!!

Posted by: MidWest | September 24, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

When the Republican Vice Presidential nominee is criticized for experience, but has MORE than the Democratic PRESIDENTIAL nominee, then the Presidential nominee has NO chance. And he shouldn't. He is not qualified to run this country. And then we have his past...past meaning right up to the time he and the media covered it up for a vote.

Yes, this poll is skewed.

Posted by: NO Experience Necessary | September 24, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

People its just a poll. You can always find a poll that you like so why trash this one because it isn't what you wanted to hear. Continue surfing on the internet and you will find one that makes you happy. The big poll will be 11/4/2008. Calm down but vote for the only intelligent, reasonable, cool and focused candidate, McCain. Obama is delusional, you know this. His indecisiveness and lying is stunning and dangerous. These are the actions of delusionality. It's a first sign. This is a politician that changes his views within minutes not hours or days. Remember Jeremiah Wright? Remember Obama didn't support the troop surge. He wanted to tuck his tail between his legs and run away from the fight. Remember he wants to negotiate with Ahmadinejad. Maybe Obama wants to attack Israel for him. Sen. Barack Obama missed two of three Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearings on Afghanistan since joining the panel. Ready to lead by absenteeism I guess. Obama was set to visit Iraq and Afghanistan but chose to go to Jordan and Israel instead of visiting Afghanistan yet he thinks he could lead an increased attack against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan? On Feb. 15, 2007, Obama also missed a committee hearing on U.S. ambassadors to Iraq and Afghanistan. I guess that region isn't really that important to Obama. Let's not forget Obama explicitly refuses to wear an American flag pin. Obama the right choice for the terrorists.

Posted by: richdoode | September 24, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm extremely wealthy because of a huge trust fund my father left me. He also forked out the money to get me into AND through an ivy league school (D+ average). Vote however you like because it won't affect me. They all love me for my money.

Posted by: trustfundbuddy | September 24, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Gail, your comments are filled w/ hate and bigotry...you don't deserve to call yourself an American. Please leave now.

Posted by: TruePatriot | September 24, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Obviously our nation is still deeply divided between Republican and Democratic leaning electorate. So we have another thrilling, close election just like the last two, or three out of the last four. In the swing states the election will likely turn on the turnout. There I think the advantage is to Obama. Not only are his supporters generally more enthusiastic about their candidate, but Obama's campaign has put an enormous effort into grass roots organizing. I heard he had something like fifty offices in Virginia compared to nine for McCain? It sounds like his experience as a community organizer really did count for something.

Posted by: Politicus | September 24, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I would just like to say if they took a true poll the results would be Obama 79%

and the Republicans less than 10%


thanks how much people don't like you know who

Posted by: mikron24 | September 24, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Someone above claims the "mess" started with Jimmy Carter. Funny, I seem to recall Carter trying to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. That must be why the Reagan folks made a secret deal with Iran to hold those hostages until after the election.

If we had listened to Carter and developed alternatives, we wouldn't be in this mess.

After eight years of Reagan and four of Papa Bush, we entered a recession, which cost Bush his presidency. Now, under George Junior, we're in a mess the likes of which the world has never seen.

Carter must have been powerful indeed if the "righteous" leaders of the last eight years have been powerless to fix the "mess" he left.

One last thing: The polls ARE meaningless. They never speak to all the young people, most of them Obama supporters, who don't have "land line" phones. They will bring Obama a landslide victory.

Posted by: HankE | September 24, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Kerry was 300 on the Electoral Map and ahead by 15 points at one time. And did he win?


Please take a look at all the polls. McCain is leading in others. No, not by 9 points. But the WaPo does not show who and when they called. And the demographic is the key. Without having it to actually review, NO polls are worth 2 cents.

Posted by: KERRY IS !5 POINTS AHEAD! | September 24, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

McCain might have won if he had picked Romney. They would have campaigned with an emphasis of experience and fiscal responsibility. Given the current economic news, that choice might have been a winner. After only a couple of weeks, McCain's choice of Palin makes him look stupid. She's a loser. Most significantly, McCain reached out to the social conservative "base" with the Palin pick rather than the fiscal conservative "base" with a Romney pick. That was a mistake for McCain, the Republican Party, and our country. Even if McCain/Romney hadn't won, they would have re-galvanized the role of the Republican Party as fiscally responsible. Our country needs that message and it goes a lot further for everyone than the family values garbage, which people like Palin peddle but fail typically fail to live up to even in their personal lives. McCain/Palin: The Bridge to Nowhere

Posted by: thoren58 | September 24, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Ah.........the Evil Press.
Maybe if Palin wins she will get rid of it.

Posted by: Philip Taugher | September 24, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA / BIDEN 08!A WINNING COMBINATION. VOTE FOR THEM VOTE FOR AMERICA!

Posted by: Madison | September 24, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

We didn't even know Obama was mayor of Chicago! That's even more frightening!

Posted by: McChickens | September 24, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

oto: you make little to no sense. Large companies, small business, the 'rich' pay more taxes in a year than you will in your entire life. Where do you work? Unless you are self employed, you work for one of those evil companies. Obama wants to somehow 'give' us free health care and another stimulus package...hmm didn't Bush give us a stimulus package? "Giving" us "free" anything only keeps you and me (I make less than you) locked in our life positions. It is like that guy who's been getting unemployment for three years. No incentive to succeed.

Posted by: MidWest | September 24, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Let's clear something up. When Obama supported Sex Education for kindergarten it was about teaching children what is inappropriate touching from adults. If you believe that's inappropriate then I suggest you open your eyes and look at the statistics of how many children are sexually abused every year, and not just by strangers. When all you do is listen to ads, from either campaign, you're going to get the wrong side of the story, and YOU are going to appear as UNEDUCATED as you are when you repeat it. Get your facts straight.

Posted by: Jen86 | September 24, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

If there's any silver lining to the general massive economic crisis and bail-out mess, it's that in election years when the economy has tanked, Democrats do very well in the elections.

Posted by: queenie | September 24, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Please vote McCain and help save this country.

http://www.FastArizona.com/McCain.html

Posted by: McCain | September 24, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is a phony. He is just using his capture in a war to win the race. He is appealing to people to have pity on him for the physical abuse he has suffered during detention, and vote for him. Shame on McCain. He may have served America in the past but now he is serving himself. I think we need a leader who will serve America.
Vote for McSame and Failin and we will get exactly that - same, failing policies.

Posted by: ABC | September 24, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

electoral college is NOT representative, hence the frequent redistricting to keep seats....bush LOSING the popular vote but after ten recounts in FLA with his brother as governor and katherine harris in his pocket and GORE finally just giving up, he "won" and electoral college was relevant when most americans didn't know anything and couldn't travel anyway...now most americans know better and their actual votes should count, not just who is gaining/losing percentage of population in relation to others....count actual votes....just like Iowa/NH being representative of the rest of the country is outdated....just like wall st. being accountable, politicians need to be accountable, and I for one think people can think for themselves and need their actual vote counted, not just a percent....all primaries should be held on the same day, as well, to avoid this year's fiasco....which GOP were able to capitalize on.....instead of having to defend their own misguided policies....

if you don't think we are communist/why is uncle preston bush coowner with a member of politburo of tech company in china and brother neil bush coowner of golf course in china....yet american business cannot even do business in cuba???? WTF

Posted by: Obama/Biden '08 | September 24, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Vote for McCain before our country is destroyed completly?

You gotta be kidding me.

If McCain gets in were all screwed. Economy will dive into the dirt and we will be at war with Iran. Gas will be 10 bucks a gallon and we will all pay the price.

McCain is bush plain and simple. Remember McCain said it nobody else. He votes with George bush 90 percent of the time.

I dont want 10 percent change. I want 100 percent. The last 8 years have been the worst in a very very long time.

That is fact.

Posted by: Stan | September 24, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The way I see it, we have two options. A smart guy who knows what he doesn't know and seeks the appropriate counsel, and a guy who believes that he should win the election at any cost, even if it means going against his "maverick" grain. I say this in quotes because he is not a maverick at all. He has consistently voted IN FAVOR of DEREGULATION OF THE FINANCIAL SECTOR! The kids ran the candy store for 8 years and look what happened. We need responsible and effective leadership, not a yes man for the neocons.

We do not need a candidate who couldn't immediately grasp the depths of the problems we now face. We need someone who can think on his feet and not require an aide to whisper to them that a calamity is, indeed, a calamity. We need a person who will intelligently discuss issues and not create smokescreens about lipstick and pigs. We need Barack Obama and Joe Biden! Goooo-bama!

Posted by: No way, no how, no McCain and Palin! | September 24, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

The only reason Fannie and Freddie contributed to Obama is because they knew he was goint to be elected president.

They wanted to be on his good side

Posted by: oto | September 24, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Take a look at Chicago , folks , if you want to see how we will look if obama is elected...He and his crooked dem cohorts have done a 'great' job....more murders in one month than in Irag ...schools are the worst in the country...taxes are sky high, and check out the debt .....and they can't even blame the rep. because there aren't any in charge there.....and they have gun control....and you think he will be good on the economy? only to fill the pockets of he and his 'friends'..see him for what he is --not what you want him to be...I'll bet you don't even know who is in charge in Illinois Look it up and see how many names are 'famous'! there is proof if you only look for it.....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I love these pollsters. This is the same poll that had Obama up 10 points over Hillary in Pennsylvania and Ohio.
DREAM ON! Change we need? Not hardley. Americans are not the unintelligent people that Obama thinks we are.

Posted by: G D America will not elect Obama | September 24, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

just to show out of touch mccain is again and again and again, after his econ advisor gramm called all americans whiners, mcbush saying he knows nothing about the economy, internet, advocating for deregulation for decades...leading to the current crisis, he STILL advocates for tax cuts for rich and FURTHER tax cuts for big corporations which will just CONTINUE to outsource American jobs......and provides NO HELP for middle class...this is bush's trickle down philosophy, i.e. rich p i s s i n g on the rest of us.....and we are supposed to be grateful for the crumbs....we may receive...while goldman sachs CEO still gets 72 mill, etc....and bonuses, and will get bailout money EVEN WHEN THEY ARE NOT IN TROUBLE....according to paulson yesterday, who coincidentally came from goldman sachs....so we basically have a govt run by private corporations right now...most americans really have no idea what is going on....CDOs, gobblydegook are all distractions, this is a takeover of our own govt....by private interests....which WE ARE PAYING FOR FROM OUR OWN PAYCHECKS.....

McCain should do well to use the hippocratic oath, echoed in many professions, except of course politics, which basically states, if you can't do good, at least don't do further harm....

Posted by: four more yrs of GOP is not the answer | September 24, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

pAT: Our votes determine who our representatives in the electoral college cast their vote. Now for the most part there is no law that states electors have to vote the same as their constituency; however, now time in history has an election been swayed by such an action. The electoral college prevents the tyranny of the majority. It gives every state and individual a fair vote. Without it, the folks in the major populated cities and states would always determine who our president is.

Posted by: MidWest | September 24, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain's first major decision ..picking a VP.
Was a good example of what he will do as President. It was a vindictive, irresponsible
decision on his part. He was more concerned with attracting womens vote than choosing someone that would be best for our country.
In the process he insulted women assuming that women aren't smart enough to vote on the issues.

Posted by: lease | September 24, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

We do not need another commander in chief to keep the war culture alive. We need a president who can restore American economy, create jobs, bring the troops back so that families are together. John Mcain is not that leader

Posted by: bipster | September 24, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I think companies should pay their taxes.

The conservative movement will have everyone believe that 90% of all americans pay no federal income taxes, I make 30k a year and I still have to pay FICA and I dont get that money back.

If you want access to this market, the largest most powerfull market in the world and you want the protection of the American Government then you should pay, and the more money you make then you should contribute more, not hide behind some tax shelter in the Cayman Islands.

Posted by: oto | September 24, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

It's simple.

Vote for McCain before the United States of America is destroyed completely.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Sad? No it's absolutely terrifying! We think we can speak for all our courage-impaired conservative friends when we say that we're certain that Obama will finally turn us over to the totalitarian socialists once and for all! Vote Palin/McCain!

Posted by: McChickens | September 24, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

This poll is enough to see that Obama is the clear winner. I say, swear him in already.

Posted by: frank burns | September 24, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Just a reminder never consider polls. Their entertaining but not reliable or worth the time.

Posted by: Campbell | September 24, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

newsflash.
mccain suspends campaign.
it's over folks.

Posted by: ucanthandlethetruth | September 24, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

We only care about state to state. And Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania and Michigan have already tole Obama NO, and they will again. They know who was taking money from Fannie Mae and trying to lie his way out of it and who has been in charge the past 2 years. ANd then we have security. Americans will never trust this country to Obama.

Posted by: G D America - NO | September 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

What states were the numbers gathered from? What time where the person answered the question? How were the questions asked (this on is the most important)? Where the individuals asked which pol. party they preferred? if you asked 900 democrats and only 100 republicans, well these are good numbers. If you asked 1000 independants, not so good. see my point

Me thinks this poll was fixed

Posted by: Poll Questions | September 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

The only thing I would use the Washington post for is....won't go there. You mean to tell me there is someone else running for President beside Osama, excuse me Obama, I get the two confused since there are so many similarities.

Posted by: Gail | September 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I WAS sitting on the fence awaiting the debates to decide which candidate was better for our country but now that these polls are out I am going to vote for the guy in the lead so I can say Yeah, I picked him!(sarcasm) All these bas#$rds should be in jail! All are complicit in this finance debacle. Dems started it and they will run us into the ground but repubs let them do it and even participated. The only results I want now is the JD and FBI investigation to reach an end. You libs want proof? NYT 9/11/03 one of your own rags for all to see.11/11/03 another article. Dems did it now own up.

Posted by: Impartial | September 24, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

I wonder when the liberal media will expose to Americans that Obama was the #1 recipient of campaign funds from Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac and the like. Hmmmm.... never. Did I mention that most of those guys are Democrats and that the Bush Administration requested 17 times for reform and was ignored. I'm not saying Dems are the total blame but come on people, do your homework. We have to rely on the facts from Rush and Hannity. (And I don't just rely on them either) Wake up people. I used to like Obama until I started doing MY OWN research into the truth and found out what he's really like. He was not poor, his muslim heritage OWNED slaves, his crew threatened organizers of the Anti Iran rally with research of tax exempt status if they didn't pull Sara Palin's invitation,he DOES support sex ed to 5 year olds (read the bill, it's right there). I could go on. Even democrats are mad about some of the lies and attacks on McCain that Obama and his people are dishing out by way of adds etc. If he's elected, we're in trouble.

Posted by: lilsis | September 24, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

1. Some people on here are pretty pathetic. They can't criticise the candidate they oppose without spreading lies (i.e. "Obama is a Muslim Communist"). Why is it that when such fear-mongering lies are spread, it is typically by Republican extremists? Granted, this fault exists in both sides of the extreme, but it sure seems more pronounced from the Right Wing. Perhaps it is because they can't find any logical reason which would sway opinions. Perhaps they feel fear is the only way. Or perhaps it's just a habit passed down from the current administration's method of operating. Either way, people who contribute nothing but slanderous nonsense only serve to hurt the party they intend to support. It makes you and your kind look like fools.

2. Doug Feaver: learn to spell. No one is going to take anything you say seriously, and no one will recognize you as a competent journalist until you get that right. If you can't spell the Republican VP's name right ("Pallin"??) by now, I feel sorry for you. Just like in many other aspects of our current failures, jouralists are becoming nearly incompetent in the ability to proofread their work. If you are going to do something, do it right.

Posted by: Matt Vorwald | September 24, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow, check out all the GOP spazzing over the polls. It is amazing to me that you GOP fools would prefer a man who was a philanderer, who probably is a complete idiot (probably graduated last in his college), who has a temper that gets flared from someone looking at him funny, and who clearly is two-faced (go to the GOP when needed but act like a "gun slinging maverick" when it suits his needs. But hey, who cares about all these key personality traits in a leader of this country! Lets put in another duffer in the White House so he can have an affair with Palin. I guess lets forget about a black man, who has not been a philanderer, who has graduated from top US schools (Columbia and Harvard), and who actually helped poor people when he was not in politics. Guess that doesn't count in this country. I guess you redneck hillbillies still want a country where you want another retard hillbilly running the country.

Posted by: anon | September 24, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

It's simple.

Vote for the Democrats before the United States of America is destroyed completely.

Posted by: Sam | September 24, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

I heard that we are in the Depression . And Obama is a reformer-looooooser!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Is this the same polls that said Hillary would only pull out a 10 point victory in West Virginia, and a 20 point in Kentucky???


In this race, I would trust no polls until the last and most accurate one: the actual vote count at the end. The rest is just filler to keep the political fanboi's active.

Posted by: BoredWithPolls | September 24, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Jcr: Of course it's racism. There is no way people of this nation might actually like McCain for what he has done and/or claims he will do. Or there is no way some might not like Obama for what he has said, done, or will do. If your guy is loosing (or not winning by 'enough') of course it's racism. It couldn't possibly be anything else.

Posted by: MidWest | September 24, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

With all of the Republicans on here bashing the Democrats on the economy, please remember, who has been in control for the past 30 years? For the most part its been Republicans, Clinton was hardly a progressive Democrat. And what has lower taxes on the extremely wealthy, deregulation, and supply economic brought us? The greatest disparity of wealth the country has ever seen, stagnant wages, and most of the wealth going to the top 1% of the nation's population. And did the Republicans lower spending? Not even when they had a Republican congress, and Republican president, they kept spending, spending, spending. Look at the actual data and stop listening to propaganda. The Republicans got us into this mess, we need change to get us out.

Posted by: Cleo | September 24, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

a lot of whites, blacks, asian, hispanics in this country and around the world "HATE WHITEY" if you mean Rove, Cheney, McBush, etc...

you can also be a feminist and hate anti-feminist anti women's rights crusader Palin.....if you are a guy and think women deserve equal rights and thus DO NOT support palin, you are then labeled sexist by GOP....it is endless...

when you have no ideas, just label/attack others....it is human nature used predominantly by ignorant, i.e. GOP and neocons....question patriotism, revert to religiosity, xenophobia, intolerance...us against them mentality...works every time....at least it has for the last two elections to some degree.....that is the GOP "base"....MSM media refers to, but never elaborates on.....

Posted by: Change NOW | September 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Go ahead America.
Vote into office, as President of the United States, an unknown, inexperienced Black Liberation Theologist (Supremist) with a shady past. And the media and Democrats talk about Sarah Palin.

If Obama were to win, it will be the biggest joke in Political history.

Posted by: What a joke Obama is | September 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I love the comments about Obama being a communist. This proposed bail-out will be the largest act of socialism in this country in years, if not ever! And since socialism equals communism, in your irrational eyes, Bush is the biggest communist this country has seen!!! Just a thought.

To those of you who are crying about the liberal media, shut up you cowards are admit that the right is wrong and drove this country into the ground! "Oh the Liberal Media is asking too many questions to McPalin!!" Well, if she knew what she was talking about, maybe they would cast her in a better light. I think one idiot administration is enough for me.

OBAMA!

Posted by: Jeremy | September 24, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

There is an obvious fear that McCain would use economic disasters as an excuse to gut Social Security and Medicare.
Looking at how Bush exploited the terrorist atatcks to gut our civil liberties and how McCain supported him to the hilt, the fear is justified.
McCain belongs to a party that would love to slash Social Security and Medicare any chance they get. They are already preparing to use the deficit from spending in Iraq and Afghanistan to do that.
If you want your economic interests protected you'd vote Obama.
Vote McCain if you think your economic interests aren't worth protecting.

Posted by: Obama is right | September 24, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Lamobama is shameless. He keeps trying to hijack anybody's message, first it was change, now he is talking about releif for "Main St" when McCain has been talking about that for years.

The Liberal movement is so bankrupt they have no other plan then to steal their opponents message and try to pass it as their own.

Why not let people know that whole thing was a sham to get more votes and to get the Idiot Obama in the white house.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

I heard that the fundamentals of the economy are strong. And John McCain is a reformer.

Posted by: mtobias | September 24, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I honestly wish that every American would take the time to educate themselves on what each candidate stands for, and then make an educated decision. George Washington once warned the country of what a division of parties could cause for this country, and he was right. Be educated.

Posted by: Jen86 | September 24, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Is it too late to hurl another insult? Palin is a trailor Park Queen Bee Wannabe! Ha ha

Posted by: johng1 | September 24, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

I think this poll, when looked at on the Washington Post website of all the original
questions and results at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_092308.html, shows that this poll is decent poll. If you look at the registered voters, Obama has a 10-pt lead, so if the Post-ABC poll is biased, then what about the news sources that are counting a 9 pt lead, when in fact the 9 pt lead is among likely voters? But every news source is biased in some way anyways. So are the commercials that the campaigns run. Saying they are lies are a strech, but one should search several different places before making a decision on the presidential election. Not just CNN or Fox News, but those two plus NBC, the BBC, the New Yorker, and the Post, or something like that. Don't rely on the candidates to tell you who's better, find out yourself

Posted by: Natejn | September 24, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Retarded Bob.I know its very sad but true-Obama is the muslim communist with the communist agenda for this country.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

What is wrong with being either a Muslim or a Communist? These are not maladies or social illnesses that must be eradicated. These terms identify a people's belief. And, what right does any one person have to criticize another person's political or religious system simply because it does not mesh with one's own. It could just as easily be proffered that neither women nor old men are capable of leading their country within the world, but, if I recall correctly, there have been both elderly Communist warriors and non-educated women shouldering this burden accordingly.

The world's diversity should be its strength, not the reason for its division. It seems quite laudable these days to opine that the non-educated among us should be denied the right to vote or, in the alternative, even a voice of dissent. If the opposition had its way, only those who agree with them should be allowed to propagate. Perhaps the ban on cloning is a good idea after all as such nonsense will be evolved away in the long term.

Posted by: Sanity | September 24, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

McLame is shameless. He keeps trying to hijack Barack Obama's message, first it was change, now he is talking about releif for "Main St" when Obama has been talking about that for months.

The conservative movement is so bankrupt they have no other plan then to steal their opponents message and try to pass it as their own.

Why not let people know that whole thing was a sham to get more votes and to get the Idiot in the white house.

Posted by: oto | September 24, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

A run-away freight train is on its way. These few polls are telling signs of what is to come. Mark my words. This election will not be close. Obama will win big!

This skirmish only reminds of the Iraqi spokesperson during the advance towards Baghdad. He kept spinning the facts on the ground. He said Americans were being slaugtered when if fact it was the other way round. We all know what happened in the end.

Posted by: E. in Houston, TX | September 24, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

mccain is a nutbag, palin is a demonstrable wackadoo....both are very scary...mccain's whole "team" consists of the same people running bush right now....

the new headline is n korea is now back to nukes again...but does not say ONLY after the US and bush went back on its' and his word to delist the koreans from their "axis of evil" and normalize relations....

the US cannot be trusted by any nation in the world right now...so much so that china yesterday released a statment to the effect that the world must now look to a global economy in which the US is not part...due to our nonstop bungling and incompetence...most recently in using taxpayers as piggy banks...and mccain has always always voiced support for total deregulation which would have meant all americans' pensions, soc. security etc. would have been at risk...AGAIN, not widely reported.....

if mccain is president however, it will be exciting to try to find the real news behind the white wash for another four years...hint: avoid MSM and read other countries' news.....to get objective news and reporting, at least until this is banned or only for rich under the proposed "tiered" system of internet acces....which will be more easily controlled after we go to all digital cable.....rural poor get hosed even more.....this, alas, is not news, either...

Posted by: Positive CHANGE | September 24, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

None of this will matter once Michelle Obama's 'I hate whitey!' tape is released next month...

Posted by: The Real Deal | September 24, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Why do people trust Obama/Biden on the economy? Because they believe in FAIR TAXES.

Under Bush & McCain, those Wall Street execs who got us into this mess actually PAY LESS than I do as a regular working person.

I don't think that's FAIR, do you? I don't like taxes, but I think at least they should be FAIR.

If you believe Wall Street should pay taxes the same way YOU do, then vote for Democrats because they are the only politicians with enough integrity to make taxes FAIR for everyone who pays them.

Posted by: Dave | September 24, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

If McCain wins will Liberal's heads blow up? Probably.Not the big loss though

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous courageously wrote

"Obama is the muslim communist with a communist agenda for this country.Do we need a muslim communist in WH?"

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Okay, in response, here goes. John McCain is a Godless agent of the Russians. His best friend is really Vladimir Putin and McCain spends his spare time killing kittens. He was a regular at Michael Vick's dog fights and he likes little girls 12 - 14 years of age.

The above is just the same as your baloney Anonymous. Lies, lies and damned lies. Is that all you repuglicans can do? Lie? Lie some more? You are going to lose this time. We are going to make you a permanent minority party. Enjoy it. It will be along time before a repuglican is ever given power in this country again.

Posted by: Bob | September 24, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

The book "Red Storm Rising" by Tom Clancy comes to mind.
When the USA slips into the coming depression, our military will be at its weakest level since Viet Nam.

Why I will not vote for McCain:
He slammed Ron Paul during the debates, and now Dr. Paul stands above the entire Congress and Executive branch as the prophet of economic destiny.

When McCain added Palin(oil tycoon) to the ticket it was like some kind of parody, like how on Earth could you pick someone dedicated to keeping the oil addiction alive.

I read a comment about Obama being a Muslim, and it is expected to see religious and racial hatred boil to the top.

The weak minded always play the hate card.

Ron Paul says prepare for the CURRENCY BUBBLE to POP.
Jack Welch, ex-ceo of General Electric says get ready for a major downturn.

Hopefully Obama will put Ron Paul in charge of the Fed and the IRS. I mean if we are in for a downturn, I would like to see the IRS and teh FED laid-off, fired, unemployed, and as well simply close down the 700 or so military bases we have prepositioned around the oil fields in other countries.

We will need our troops here at home when the looting and riots start.

Posted by: Earl E | September 24, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

how could ABC make this poll based on 38% more are D, 20% more are R???????? just another joke made by media

Posted by: shrek | September 24, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

In response to Pat's question, "Why do we vote if the Electoral College picks the president any ways?"

Answer: Because the issues of smaller states with low populations would essentially be ignored by the candidates, not to mention those states would be completely eliminated as a campaign stop. Granted, the opposite occurs in states where all the campaigning in the world won't sway that state's vote, such as in Arizona and Vermont.

But then I'm fine with that as a New Yorker, since I can do without every Republican candidate from the past two decades traipsing through my state and calling me an elitist. When did "elite" become a bad word, anyway? It means well above average -- what problem does the GOP have with Americans striving to be smart or successful? But I digress...

Posted by: Drew in NY | September 24, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

It's odd how some of you McCain supporters are so SURE he will win in Nov. Your zealotry is amazing, for instance this comment...

The American people like fighters and not wimps and ultimately just like what happened to Dukakis Obama will be looked upon as a man who lacks experience and moral character.

How do you know this? Where's your crystal ball? If Obama wins will your head blow up?

Posted by: Jon | September 24, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

First neither one of the 2 can fix anything, cause the problem lies where both are coming from, namely congress. That fine seat of government is filled with everything from Snakes to Rats. You want change start throwing out all who try to be reelected. Not one of them lazy bums has any interest in fixing the problems cause that would dig deep into their pockets. One lady mention healthcare, they have their own private one fully funded by you. They get pensions paid by you. Not to mention nice Board appointments after leaving office for serving their friend's business interest. Obama has no backbone, McCain can't the forest for all the trees. Either way we are behind the eight ball. Let's use common sense, first NO BAIL OUT, let them over paid CEO's go down with their ships, and those people who took risky loans I don't feel sorry for them. It was just stupid to give and accept those loans. As for Iraq give them 12 months to get their act together because we are leaving at that point. If Iran bulks at dis-arming then give the green light to the Israelis to bomb them into the next world. No more foot soldiers on the ground bomb them from above until the land is a moonscape. And the last item get the liberals rounded up and ship them off to the frozen Soviet countries, and get God back into this country.

Posted by: Dallas Veteran | September 24, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

New poll conducted on The Moon shows Barack Obama's a nine-point lead over Republican nominee John McCain .That your place Liberals-The Moon.By BY

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Suggestion - Why not filter out those useless comments and make those of us who are interested in reading something meaningful very happy?
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Fairness Doctrine. If we limited this column to informed discussion, we would cut out an entire side of the debate.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe the media anymore. Sorry, but I have been watching for the last 11 months and seen the MSM swoon over Obama. So, I have been reading and diiging( what the media should be doing ) and found some very scary things about Sen. Obama. Now, I ask my self why do I have to do this ? Shouldn't the media being be doing this? Now, when I read stories bashing Mccain or praising Obama I know that there is more to it ..and I start to dig.
No, these polls are biased.
This race is very very close.
And, I am a Democrat!

Posted by: Samuel | September 24, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Wow, it seems that people forget what a poll is and how it works. Then they get mad when it is revealed how it works and it isn't in their favor.

Posted by: c | September 24, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Like anything else published, the reader needs to do a little fact checking. I have read the article and will at sometime followup with checking the content.

However, is this article any different than the 30 second sound bite ads you hear from John McCain that lay claim to things like him having taken less money from Freddie or Fannie? He claims Obama has taken more money from them than anyone else except one other person. A fact taken way out of context.

The truth is, Obama has received more campaign pledges from employee's of those companies by far, almost $167,000, but John McCain has taken 10x the amount Obama has from the executives and lobbyists $169,000 to $16,000. Maybe, just maybe, the employee's of those companies understand that America needs change and that John McCain is not the person they are supporting.

It's a sad time in America when you have to fact check everything that is said, printed, or aired by news organizations and the media. Politicians are the worse at spinning facts and figures, just look at Bush 43 and his lies to the American public. His lack of leadership, his outright lies, and the fact that 6 years ago he stated "America is addicted to oil", and what has he done about it since then?

There should be three choices on this falls ballets. Democrat, Republican, and throw all the bums out of office.

This country will implode from greed and corruption, and the rest of us will be left with the bill to clean it up.

If you want four more years of wild spending with no oversight, vote McSame/Failin this fall.

Posted by: Mark | September 24, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the muslim communist with a communist agenda for this country.Do we need a muslim communist in WH?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

This poll seems pretty skewed compared to a lot of others out there. I can't imagine Obama is leading by this much. Moreover, the polling numbers on September 24 matter about as much as the score at the end of the first quarter. Nobody wins anything for being ahead on September 24.

Debates are coming up, and they will be the next big thing to have an opportunity to sway voters. I personally am hoping Obama does a good job and pulls a little further ahead, but anything can happen. Three weeks ago nobody thought it'd be all about the economic bailout today, so who knows what the issue de jour will be come late October.

Posted by: Joe | September 24, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

VuhDooch, you are absolutely correct. People who make less than $200 Grand a year and vote Republican are suicidal and need to seek professional treatment for their malady. By any measure of economics, people making less than $200,000/year ALWAYS do better under Democrats. Unfortunately, their lying preachers tell them otherwise. Of course, the fact that the preachers make MORE than $200,000/year might influence their "discussions with god". Funny how these yahoos who "preach Jesus" never listen to his words like "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to pass through heaven." Oh, silly me, neo-cons like Moses better...he's ALOT meaner.

Posted by: Calvin | September 24, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama broke the law when he bought that house in Chicago together with criminal REZKO.Do we need a criminal in WH?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Wake up people! Was there a financial/economic crisis 2 years ago? No. Is there one now? Yes. And, over the last 2 years, who has been in control of the government? (Hint: The President's powers are VERY limited. He is not in control. The congress is. And the DEMOCRATS have been in control of congress for 2 years.)

Posted by: BlackHat | September 24, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Post and the NY Times are true and true time tested liberals and they haven't endorsed a republican president in years.

The debates will most certainly swing the election to the candidate who will show the courage to deal with the tough issues facing our nation.

McCain will even convince the most radical of the far left simply because Obama is only a good actor when he can read a teleprompter and rehearse his lines.

McCain will be seen as a man of conviction who is willing to lead and Obama will be seen as a man of indecision and one who is afraid to take a stand on the important issues of today.

The American people like fighters and not wimps and ultimately just like what happened to Dukakis Obama will be looked upon as a man who lacks experience and moral character.

Posted by: rudy iacono | September 24, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

@sampears - By the content of your post, you are a racist and a fear monger.

I think we're in a sorry state when we can't have rational dialog... without falling into race baiting, lying or parroting the parties' rhetoric.

Posted by: Sebilrazen | September 24, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

John thanks for your comment - unfortunately sarcasm and other kinds of nuance don't really come across in blogs very well.

i've seen too many arguments develop because people were not understanding the humor or irony another person *meant* to put in their writing.

best wishes, and may the best candidate win!

Posted by: Dave in NYC | September 24, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

If you want another 4-8yrs of the same, Vote McCain/Palin. If you like war, record spending, lack of support from the govt when your home is destroyed by floods, the govt. spying on you, reversal of over 200 laws that protect our air & water, Vote McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Kliff | September 24, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I've read comments lately questioning "why Obama has such a relatively small lead" given the current economic disaster. It's a simple answer, RACISM! White voters, men in particular need to look past the color of a persons skin and examine the candidates commitment and intelligent ideas that might actually benefit this country.

Posted by: Jcr | September 24, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

sampears - get your head out of the sand! 1st and foremost Obama is not a Muslim, that was all a hoax.if you don't know what you are talking about, don't bother to post here. I urge people to look at the facts, not the speculation. If you don't know the truth, find it! That is our job in an election. You mention the voting booth, just remember you make your own decisions. I make mine. I like to make sure I know all facts first. I research potential lies before I call them lies. As an American, it is your duty to help the system not impair it.

Posted by: morningowl | September 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

To the sampears of the world,

As Mr. T said, I pity the fools!

OBAMA & BIDEN - The ONLY sane choice for America.

Posted by: roxlaw | September 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

First was the Y2K trial run - to take the pulse of the nation's stupidity. Shelves were cleared. Fear ruled.

The New World Order has been relegated to conspiracy lore... because people don't want to hear the truth.

As a nation we've got our collective heads in the sand. The evidence? Stolen elections, 9/11, The Patriot Act, Iraq, Paulson & Bernanke's $700 billion bailout (just to name a few).

When the people responsible for a crisis are selected to head the clean up team AND are paid to clean up what they made a mess of, something's rotten.

When your average citizen and congressperson actually buy into the spew that would be better suited for someone's garden, consider propositions from known liars and thieves, and bank on hope offered by the greedy - I think its safe to say that we're in a hand basket and no matter who is carrying us, our future has been on fire for a long time now.

Posted by: R.Machiavelli | September 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Republicans only get upset about poll results when the polls lean towards the Democrat. Sore Losers

Posted by: Kliff | September 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Anyone with elementary knowledge of statistics would see this poll as the sham that it is. It's sad to see the liberal newspapers in this country turn into tabloids.

Posted by: Jeff | September 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

What if Fox News says Obama is up 45% to 39%?

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/24/fox-news-poll-obama-reclaims-lead-over-mccain-45-to-39/

Do they get attacked too?

Posted by: David B. | September 24, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

For years the conservative movement has been telling people that they are for small government, no taxes, no welfare, no abortion, legislate morality, privatization of schools, social security and health care, but when they have the power to make this happen they have never produced, that's because it is impossible you still have to pay for it to work.

The mindless robotrons who keep voting for this crap got what they deserved.

At least the Dems never promised anything they can't deliver.

Posted by: oto | September 24, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

United States National Debt

An Analysis of the Presidents Who Are Responsible for the Borrowing

http://www.cedarcomm.com/~stevelm1/usdebt.htm

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Its scary that polls turn voters opinions. If you vote for someone just because some poll said they were in the lead, then you don't really care about your country. Try doing a little research and then decide who you think is best.

Also, can someone please explain why Obama is good for the economy? His plans will outspend the Bush administration putting this country further into debt. Who is going to pay for all this?

Finally, stop saying Palin will not be a good leader because of experience. She has more than Obama and she is NOT the one running for President.

Posted by: Ken | September 24, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Nobody I know votes. Both candidates get their finaancial support from essentially the same moneyed interests. Nobody is calling for national health, nobody is calling for withdrawal from Iraq, nobody is abiding by campaign finance reform, both candidates support FISA, off-shore drilling, the Supreme Court's recent ruling underminng D.C.'s efforts at gun control, nobody is calling for an end to the death penalty or speaking out against the bail-out of the financial institutions (if I lent $100 to my cousin and couldn't get him to pay it back, would they bail ME out?). The whole national election process is a big sick joke.

Posted by: Enos Finch | September 24, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

You're all idiots!

Posted by: Typical Commentor | September 24, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

WHY DO WE VOTE IF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE
PICKS THE PRESIDENT ANY WAYS?

Posted by: pAT | September 24, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Dave in NYC

Thanks, My point wasn't really the poll numbers, it was the Obama campaign/Media injecting race into the election. (see how my sarcasm works?) Handicap is the key word here.

DAAAVE

Posted by: John | September 24, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

According to Doug Feaver, "Some of our Readers Who Comment provide rational analysis. But many simply hurl insults at each other, the kind of rambling pointless string that sheds little light."

Suggestion - Why not filter out those useless comments and make those of us who are interested in reading something meaningful very happy?

Posted by: Albert Einstein | September 24, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

smaller government, "deregulation"
absolute power, corrupts absoltely

Posted by: ohiofred | September 24, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

What is truly a shame is how both parties and the all news sources and media have created such a divide in our country. majority of the democrats and rebpublicans have all forgotten we are Americans before we are a dem or a repub, we are humans before we are americans. it is a sad state we live in at these times where people choose to vote based upin party affiliation and what they are told by which ever media group caters to their party. A true unbiased news article or forumn is hard to find if not impossible these days. Wake up americans and realize we are all in this together. learn about your candidates yourself from the candidates and vote what your heart tells you and acept the outcome for whatever it is. Dont be blinded anymore by what washington wants you to believe the truth is, Seek it yourself this is the greatest fundamental right our country has to offer it's people, Use it and use it frequently and take back our country from those that have sold their american souls for profit and power, those that have forgotten that without everyone in the country helping out we stand alone.

Posted by: Mike | September 24, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

In the end no one, when alone in the voting booth, will be able to bring themselves to vote for a muslim, who lies about it, america hating, terriost loving, racist, that thinks people in the midwest are angry and cling to their guns and belief in God, wants to raise taxes, spend more of our childrens money, and hates white people. Now unfortunatly the only alternative is McCain, so hold your nose and vote for McCain.

Posted by: sampears | September 24, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Forget the Pulls, Er, uh...I mean Polls. Shut Up and vote.

Posted by: Tam | September 24, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

We are so wrapped up in the election and the financial crisis to realize what is really happening...other countries around the world are positioning for war. USA plants missiles in Georgia, Soviet has arms in South America, North Korea building nuclear weapons....it really does not matter who wins the election.

Posted by: Buddy Mann | September 24, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

For those who didn't understand the actual meaning of the AP poll on race: the results only indicate that Obama has a 6% handicap because of his race, so when you see a poll like the one this article discusses it is not logical to compare the results of the two polls as if they were talking about the same thing.

To make it easier to comprehend, think of it this way: If Obama wasn't black, maybe he would be 15% ahead after McCain's terrible performance this week, rather than 9% (see how the 6% handicap works?)

Posted by: Dave in NYC | September 24, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

On the ground canvassing the undecided voters you come face to face with how the failed economic policies are crunching up ordinary citizens. People have last faith in republicans - too many years of them working the government to the advantage of big business and the super wealthy. It has to end - and the calm, cool collected and very intelligent Obama looks like the better road to success.

There is no reason for this country to have come to this level of mediocrity in governance - we cannot let corporate america direct our future, they have no interest in the long term and are unwilling to invest in the future, our people, are kids.

Without this mindset change our children will have no future. I'm voting for the change we so urgently need - Obama

Posted by: McGreen | September 24, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Two days ago Obama was losing because America is a racist country, now he's up by 9. Did all these bigots change their core beliefs in the last 2 days. I guess all those racist decided ageism is where all the best work in the hating community is being done. One of these polls are wrong. Only in America.

Posted by: John | September 24, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote: "No wonder both sides doubt the polling."

Actually, I think that most people who "doubt the polling" do so because the poll doesn't support their "team".

How many people actually look at the name of the organization who conducted the poll, much less research that organization?

Posted by: frozen01 | September 24, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I am so glad Americans are finally getting it...It's not about race,age or gender.
It's about what is best for our economy...
Obama 08

Posted by: lisa | September 24, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between Bush/Cheney and McCain/Palin? LIPSTICK.

four more years!

Posted by: Dave in NYC | September 24, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

And it seems your reporting is skewed toward MCCain....Then you have the balls to accuse another outlet of slanting???

Posted by: wow | September 24, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Polls are just polls. Here is the general public doing what we despise most right now...SPECULATION! Didn't speculation cause much of our economic mess? I personally feel Obama is the right person for the time. I was a McCain supporter back in 2000, but times are different now. Bush and McCain continue to introduce dangerous policies that have more risk to them than safety. Isn't risk a factor in what happened to our economy? Many CEOs took unnecessary risks due to greed.

Greed is turning out to be a world issue, not just America, from cutting corners in the dairy industry in China to Russia wanting Georgia back under their influence, to the rich in America not wanting to pay more taxes to relieve those of us at the bottom of the barrel.

I cannot begin to understand greed until I have a heated home and some expendable income, which right now I don't have. I did have it prior to GOP taking office and I made less money then. Now I worry day-to-day whether my electricity will be turned off because I don't pay enough towards the bill.

Posted by: morningowl | September 24, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

morningglory51 wrote: "I do not like either one of them. Neither of them are discussing how to deal with the current deficit, fraud and abuse and how to deal with in in the health care system or effectively deal with illegal immigration..."

This is true, but I don't fault Obama or McCain for this. The American people simply don't want to listen to detailed explanations; we want bumper sticker slogans and platitudes. *sighs*

Posted by: frozen01 | September 24, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

THANK YOU for making the obvious point that yelling insults convinces no one of anything other than that the yeller is not doing rational analysis and is probably...well, I won't say. I've given up on reading comments for that very reason...and the only reason I'm posting here is because you are calling the out the uselessness of the rambling. Now I guess I'm going to have to pay more attention to what you write...

Posted by: Helen Springer | September 24, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

People its just a poll. You can always find a poll that you like so why trash this one because it isn't what you wanted to hear. Continue surfing on the internet and you will find one that makes you happy. The big poll will be 11/4/2008. Calm down but vote for the only intelligent, reasonable, cool and focus candiate, Obama. McCain is senile, you know this. His indecisiveness and lying is stunning and dangerous. These are the actions of senility. It's a first sign. This is a politician that changes his views within minutes not hours or days.
Remember we're in great shape. What and whic economy was he referring to. He's said it 15 times. He's mean and nasty and unfocused. Remember your dear old uncle in the nursing home that has become mean. All you then have are memories of when he was rational.He's an embarrassment to the party, they know it and the strong will admit it and save this country from McShame. Vote Obama, no one has to know but don't vote for our execution by voting for an old man whose dream of becoming president that motivates the bad decision in choosing Palin. Nothing she has said is true. Who choses a nominee already under the umbrella of an investigation by 10 rep and 4 democrates. He's incompetent, confused and out of touch. Arizona to attempt to remove him from representig them He's not well

Posted by: Honey Rogers | September 24, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

My barber, a right-winger, justifies high CEO salaries by saying that even though they work only as hard as the rest of us do, they work smarter. I, on the other side, justify my support of Obama by saying that even though he promises to spend my tax money, he will spend it smarter.

The trillion-dollar Bush failure in Iraq and the trillion-dollar GOP failure on Wall Street are not "smart." It's time for a president who can use our resources wisely. Go Obama.

Posted by: John from NC | September 24, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Do your homework! Research it yourself - for at least 50 years, by just about every measure imaginable, the economy has always done better under Democratic administrations. You'd have to be a damn fool to vote for a Republican president now -- it's guaranteed to get worse. Before you start yelling and screaming about this -- no one cares what your opinions are, if they don't agree with the facts. Check the numbers -- all of them!

Posted by: VuhDooch | September 24, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

More of the same from John McShame

John McLame says, “I don’t know much about the economy, I still need to be educated”

“It would be acceptable if we had to stay in Iraq for another 100 years.”

We need to “bomb, bomb, and bomb Iran”

“I have voted with Bush 90% of the time because he has been right 90% of the time”


Sarah Failin says,

“I have foreign policy experience because you can see Russia from Alaska and I went to Mexico on vacation once.”

“I welcome any investigation into my past because I have nothing to hide, oh never mind I will not meet with any investigators for any reason ever.”

She believes the Bush Doctrine is a “World View” hahaha

She says she said “No Thanks” for the Bridge to nowhere when she was actually the one who got it approved

She says we may have to go to war WITH RUSSIA

She decreased her own responsibilities when she was the mayor of a town small enough to be run by a fifth grader


Posted by: John McShame | September 24, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

WAPO want Obama to win, but that doesn't excuse the outright stupidity of the some of the right wing posts here today.

I wonder what it feel slike to be as dumb as some of you people supporting McCain.

You lie.

You lie about lying.

You lie about other people telling the truth.

Thank God somone is calling out your lying asses.

Posted by: King | September 24, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I cant wait till the debates, I have been going to watchdebate.com Has all video of debates past and present., watch a clip of your favoriate debator, presidential, primary and vp debate clips This is going to be alot of fun.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Does the Washington Post expect to have any credibility after this election?
Did you really post a poll by the CHICAGO
Council on Global affairs as if it were a serious polling outfit or think-tank and expect that no one would find out that MICHELE OBAMA sits on its board?

No wonder both sides doubt the polling.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

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