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McCain, Palin Draw Sniping, Support

We're officially down to the White House finals now, with two months of sound bites to go. Dan Balz writes that Republican presidential nominee John McCain's selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin to be his running mate and her speech to the Republican National Convention Wednesday "produced an unexpected surge of energy and unity within the Republicans' conservative base" and "could narrow a sizable enthusiasm gap between the parties."

That analysis has launched an often impolite mud-slinging contest among our Readers Who Comment on political stories. This string lacks the quality and thoughtfulness of the comments that followed the articles about Palin's convention-inspiring speech a day earlier.

Readers either praise McCain for his service to his country or complain that they have heard enough about his POW experience. Both service and POW experience were emphasized in McCain's acceptance speech and the run-up to it last night. Some ask what is McCain's program. They praise or attack Palin; they praise or attack Democratic nominee Barack Obama, and they snipe at each other. They predict a Democratic victory or a Republican victory. And they accuse each other of not being who they say they are. There are some well-reasoned comments, but informed civil discourse is not a feature of this string.

We'll start with theduke89, who wrote, "...McCain is a doer, not a talker. You have to see him in action, read his statements on important votes in the Senate to appreciate him... he will make a far better President than Obama. And the pick of Palin was brilliant..."

But kathymac1 said, "...Obama will probably win for one reason and one reason only, Bush is such an incompetent boob. So I will have to grin and reach further into my wallet for the big government programs which are coming."

tartare wrote, "The fake democrats like "kathymac" crack me up. The republican party is probably paying people to pretend to be online "switchers". Come on..."

Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager, told Post reporters that "We actually have to go find votes because right now if the election were held today we probably don't have as many votes as Barack Obama." That quote inspired infuse to ask, "Now, where are all those blind followers who keep chanting about the latest polls favoring McCain?"

mgd1 said, "...My energy is for equal opportunity for ALL women and ending the mean and gender biased treatment that both female candidates endured in this campaign... Vote Sarah Palin 08!"

AverageJane wrote, "He was a POW, he acts sounds like he's owed it! How many times are we going to hear it?..."

akasaris said, "After watching all 4 days of the Rep convention all I heard were attacks and military heriosm from 30+ years ago. Oh, and the same old Bush economic plan. Thanks for serving our country, Senator McCain... Old soldiers never die, but maybe it is time to go home."

treelinedc suggested that "...So many people, senators, were on who you know didn't really approve of the Palin choice and who still aren't sold... tonight I see a party pretty divided. John McCain is not nearly as conservative as the people in that place, or as Palin. It's a jumble."

mcj91201 wrote, "I think the McCain camp is being incredibly naive if they think that Sarah Palin's appeal to the conservative base is going to translate to the independent voters. If anything, it's going to push more independents to Obama..."

woody2471 sneered that "You've got to hand it to the Repugs. Once again, they have managed to up the Jerry Springer quotient of the national debate: 'I'll see your pants-suit yuppie mom and self-made, educated black man, and raise you a white-trash, party hack mom from nowhere.' "

blarsen1 said, "McCain calls himself a maverick, but he's pretending to rebel against a system he's been a major part of for the last 27 years..."

VKG1 wrote, "McCain with the Palin pick has proved that he will do anything to get into power. Power is intoxicating and McCain is certainly addicted to it and wants it badly. Why else would McCain pick a person he had issues with regarding earmarks only a few years ago, yet anoints her as a hero and uncorrupt?"

Plutonium57 said, "...the problem for McCain is...McCain and the fact that Republicans are the ones who have led us into the morass of Iraq, let Afghanistan backslide, and let the economy tank. So the Palin factor won't be enough to satisfy people looking for more than punch lines..."

johnbsmrk wrote, "...The notion that the far right, anti abortion, creationist, book banning Palin is going have any traction with middle of the road voters even if they are women is a paradox that is never explained by all the pundits on the right...This is going to be 53-54% Obama/45-46% McCain election."

We'll close with wesfromGA, who asked, "What would the reaction have been if Senator Obama had given an acceptance speech as light on policy and as full of platitudes as Senator McCain did? I don't think the response would be very positive. Neither McCain nor Palin had any serious constructive plans for solving our problems..."

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  September 5, 2008; 7:33 AM ET
Categories:  McCain , Obama , Palin , Presidential Politics  
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She worked for the Stevens guy.The one in jail plus she lies so much you think she honest.No one goes the extra mile to check the facts anymore.Mc Cain and the G.O.P never ever do what they say when we vote duh! The basic is idea is cool but then little govt means more govt ...more cops more jails more army more war but less high school programs less roads medical less education. All the time no fix to the problem for real because to fix one problem might fix them all.

Take education ,better education less people in jail, less health problems and creating jobs by inventions and smarter tactics in the market.

Less people in jail ( think public works but money goes to victim family or there family) Homes not so broken and crimnal learn skill so not eager to start back to crime.
To fix the problems of today erases the fears of tomorrow

Its sad that people are so scared of the future that ride with a anybody back to the pass

Posted by: natoir1 | September 10, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

LIBERAL=SEXIST

yeah that makes sense seeing as the palin wants executive authority over your womb.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 8, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse


"BROS BEFORE HOES!" .. Obama's campaign slogan.


LIBERAL=SEXIST

Posted by: julia | September 7, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

The problem I just realized (watching Reliable Sources discuss the importance of Palin's performance in the upcoming debate) is that her responses in the debate will be prepared, in one way or another.

They will NOT be her "personal" opinions.

They will be her "professional" opinions.

And right now, as long as McCain is alive and kicking, her personal opinions don't matter, BUT if he kicks the bucket, they will matter HUGELY.

HUGELY.

So we're about to get tricked (again). She's going to do just fine in the debates--and if that's all we get to hear of her perspectives, we're screwed. We need to hear her honestly admit what drives her actions so we can decide whether that drive is something we think will benefit the country--or whether they'd just drive a bigger wedge between us (in the event she has to take over the presidency).

Posted by: Philip | September 7, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Dumbo / Bimbo 08

Posted by: j | September 7, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: martin Georgia | September 7, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Where is Ron Paul? We need him and republicans and democrats would vote for him. HE IS REAL CHANGE AND HE IS NOT SAME AS BUSH.

Posted by: DRinDAhouse | September 7, 2008 10:56 AM | Report abuse

McCAIN WILL HAVE TO START ADDRESSING ECONOMY, AND THAT IS WHERE HE WILL LOOSE.
WHY?
ECONOMY IS BAD BECAUSE HE VOTED WITH BUSH 90% OF TIME AND STLL HAVEN'T CRITICIZED BUSH ON ECONOMY EITHER. ALSO, SARAH PALIN HAS NO IDEA ABOUT ECONOMY ON FEDERAL SCALE.

Posted by: BOBSTER | September 7, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

McCain has 165 lobbyists in his campaign including his campaign manager.

Obama has zero or as Rudy would say zero, nothing, nada.

Whos the bought man?

Cmon people take off the goggles and wake up.

Posted by: MikeR | September 7, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Hey ind heart........Put down the kool-aid you've had enough.
Palin a real American hero? Thats too ridiculous to even attempt to reason with you.
You probably never even heard of her until McCain chose her.
And she can read a teleprompter...Well that qualifies her to be VP doesnt it?
No wonder this country keeps electing idiots with people like you.

Posted by: TimKaa | September 7, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

Republican Alternative, Is Ron Paul still running for president? Because I voted for him in my primary but I thought according to his website that he was focusing back on his election to congress. I am just wondering. I would vote for that man in a heartbeat. Very smart, true to this country.

Posted by: Lori 4 Christ | September 7, 2008 6:59 AM | Report abuse

Palin - real american
Obama - real american salesman
Palin - inspire hope in Pioneer spirit sort of way for those who like opportunity that this great country famous for.
Obama - inspire hope of those dreaming of bigger government that'll solve everything for everybody.
Many less financial savvy voters don't know what's in their best interest and in the country's best interest. They thought big government is the solution.
Here's the deal: bigger government leads to bigger budget, bigger budget leads to more tax, more tax on individuals leads to everybody getting poorer, more tax on corporation makes corporation set up more operation in foreign country rather than here and as a result less private sector jobs, less private sector jobs leads to political pressure for government to increase budget to create more government jobs, bigger budget leads to more tax (or alternatively deficit spending)... and the cycle goes on and on. That's why we are now a nation of government related jobs represent the biggest part of the economy. America no longer competitive!! As people increasingly rely on government, where does government get their tax revenue from? Taxing the government employees only a drop in the bucket that come out of the same bucket of water. Taxing the private sectors corporation and employees can no longer sustain the government operation. That's why the government already have to operate in deficit spending. The result, the dollar goes down and gas price, food price, everything goes up because investors soon realize government is printing out more useless paper money to continue the operation. As a result, everybody gets poorer. Government is not the solution, big government is the problem.
Bill Clinton engineered the economic miracle by cutting wasteful spending in government, even though he's democrat. Palin did the same as governor. So far Obama hasn't have a clue and only sell everybody empty promises. Democrats are stupid enough to pass over Hillary who at least would have the economic wisdom and experience to make this country better. So this independent's vote is clear, and it's go to some one that's better positioned to turn the country around and give people real opportunities rather than empty promises of hope.

Posted by: ind heart | September 7, 2008 1:33 AM | Report abuse

I wish people serious about electing the right man for President of the U.S. would simply look up a list of Barack Obamas actual accomplishments and history.Just the indisputable facts.No opinion. Just just the hard cold truth.
You will never convince me that had these been the acomplishments of a 46 year old White Man there is no way he could lose.
Had Sarah Palin been born into poverty,worked and paid her way through school, and despite graduating top of her class,with honours from Harvard and being the President of her Law Review, decided to devote nearly half a decade as a community organizer in the most depressed sections of Chicago, then maybe Mrs. Palin would have something to boast about. Those are real experience and accomplishemnts and those are Baracks'. Are you people really going to let your predjudices stand in the way of saving your country from out of this slow Republican induced death?
Come on. Show your country you want what's best for it and its survival. The same men who advised Bush and Cheney in every important policy are now advising and making policy for Sen McCain. How will this in all seriousness change anything for you and me? Rove and all these lobbyists buddies of Mccains aren't going to have a job if McCain loses.It should be very obvious to all American's that these people are not backing Mccain because they want what's best for this country.
What does it take for some of you to realize your being duped a third time in a row by the same bunch of crimminal con men who are making a killing on the gullability of the American electorate.?
No wonder the world no longer looks up to The United States. We have not given them a reason to, for the last eight years.

Posted by: B.Rollens | September 7, 2008 1:05 AM | Report abuse

I would prefer seeing McCain at the White House than Obama. Not only McCain but also his grandfather and father served this country. Obama's father didn't even give tax to this country except took two white american women as one of his wives, divorced them and didn't even provide child support. All his half brothers are muslims and trying to make money by selling the pictures of Obama in muslim aferican costume.
Sarah Palin's parents worked for this country as educators and I'm proud of them!I hope McCain and Palin win in November!

Posted by: Julia | September 7, 2008 12:31 AM | Report abuse

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Why would America -REWARD- complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

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Posted by: PulSamsara | September 6, 2008 11:11 PM | Report abuse


Let's send Hooter-Mom back to her love shack, so she can pop out more "special-needs" children for other people to take care of.



Posted by: chasemonster | September 6, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

New York Democrats in Action!

My friends the picture of Hillary in this article does not look like a Woman who is afraid of the Pit Bull with Lip Stick, Mr. Schmit, Mr. Rove and McCain/Bush!

Hillary Clinton, New York Democrats have Sarah Palin in their site at Labor Day powow.
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/09/06/2008-09-06_hillary_clinton_new_york_democrats_have_.html

"No way, no how, no McCain, no Palin." Senator Hillary Clinton

New York Democrats say vote for Change we can believe in ...

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: RFK | September 6, 2008 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Top ten nicknames for GOP (Grumpy Old Party) ticket


10. Bush Light and
Dan-Quayle-in-dress

9. Beauty and
the Beast

8. McBush and
His McMuffin

7. Snow White and
Grumpy

6. Dumbo and
Bimbo

5. Igloo and
7 houses more-or-less

4. B00bs and
Wrinkles

3. Cactus Mac and
The Mayor of Moosville

2. Geritol and
Mooseburger

1. Numb Nuts and
Furburger

Posted by: Hollywood | September 6, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is the reincarnation of Annie Oakley.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

To people on the East Coast anything west of Pennsylvania is the outback. The wild, wild, West runs from Ohio all the way to Alaska.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 5:38 PM | Report abuse

I am just a tax paying long term permanent resident, legal and without a sanctuary to go. I am outraged about the liberal smear media, their lies about Palin and McCain, and their one-sided biased reporting. First we watched Hilary and Obama throwing dirt against eachother and then, when the pack reunified, they started throwing dirt against the Republican candidates. I haven't heard one economic issue, Obama wants to improve. All I hear is change. What change? Turning America into a Socialst state? Haven't you looked to Europe how they struggle. Socialism doesn't work because the workforce can only finance so much bums before they start struggling themselves. Raising taxes will cut jobs in the US. The cost of healthcare for illegal immigrants is three times as much as the entire Iraq war. Nobody mentions that in the news. McCain proved that he goes against his own party if neccessary and Palin did the same. That's the change we need in this country. Obama already talks the Clinton talk - he adapted fast and is brownosing the establishment and the press. Change? Yeah, right.

Posted by: Munichmaedchen | September 6, 2008 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm trying to figure out if we are all as stupid as McCain thinks we are. Truthfully he has played Palin very well. He's thrown her out there like a baited hook and he's waiting to see what he gains out of it all. Really, we should see the arrogance in his pick. His biography was put out there because he and Rick Davis think McCain's all that. So much so, he can a bimbo and still get elected. Every item said by McCain we're slowly finding out to be not true. That along with having no idea the difference between running Alaska and the US. Never really looked Iraq nor what a VP does. What is suppose to make me even begin to want her a VP. Oops, I forgot, I'm a woman. See, McCain figures the men will see her as a Hot VP and the women will follow because we women, just follow women. We're only as smart as the woman we're following. What an insult? Then he further insults everyone female in the senate and the house. What nerve......... You guys, need straighten your pants and use your head on your shoulders and think about the issues that are immportant. Truth be told, yes she's a pretty skirt, but what's she hiding. She's a distraction, and what are you not to see. She's a MZ Piggy. Look at all the pork bellies she gotten. Everytime I hear McCain say, he 's going to stop the pork bellies and excessive spending. How can he not look directly at Palen? and then let's talk about that bridge to no where.

Posted by: Vikki56 | September 6, 2008 5:25 PM | Report abuse

I am amazed that parents of teenagers, republican and democrat, are not up in arms about a potential vice president who glorifies teen pregnancy by making her daughter a spectacle on TV. Good luck trying to tell your teenager to be responsible after the vice president's daughter was glorified by the republican party. I was for McCain; now I'm staying home on election day!

Posted by: very concerned | September 6, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

After reading a few comments I think I got it. If you are from backwoods parts of the country you are a small town hick. If you are from jungle town you are prepared to be president.

Posted by: Jim | September 6, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Palin is entertaining. I don’t know whether she reminds me more of Kathy Bates or Roseanne Barr.

This is a question as to whether her underlying character is that of a tell it like it is earthy and nasty mouthed attack pit bull –give herr the lip stick if she wants. Or whether she is more of an apple pie seductive auntie tarantula

Ether way this kind of character joined together with fundamentalist religion, blended with no particular interest, or concern for the the universe,the world , the country or any thing more grandiose then her family and neighborhood, and its various tawdry melodrama is unsettling.

She’s dangerous: she’s a bit like George Bush in this way, but much more dangerous in that she lacks his slow Texas Horned Toad laziness.

So she could create a lot more trouble for everyone, a lot quicker. I predict the birth of some queen of the underworld, a plump larval corpus- Madame dragon monster, emerging from the still warm body of the late President McCain.

Posted by: daniel Screed | September 6, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin laughingly called Obama "Sambo" shortly after the end of the Democratic primaries: http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%e2%80%9cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%e2%80%9d/

Posted by: John | September 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin needs to find a double wide in Alaska to hide in durring this election because she can't handle real questions about her views or her record. McCain should have "loved his country" enough not to tap this white trash mama as his vp pick.

Posted by: Carlin | September 6, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

I hear all of the talk of the cost of this war. However, I have not heard anyone discuss the difference in cost of our Military during peace-time versus the cost of our Military now, during war-time.

It seems to me that since none of our military have been drafted and all have chosen this profession, yes, I consider it a profession, that the cost of our military should not be too much different now versus peace-time. Can someone please comment?

Posted by: UncleMinnow | September 6, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Since the GOP has decided to run against the "elite media", whatever that is, perhaps the Dems should just run against Dubbya.

That is a battle that they are sure to win and would actually keep the debate on track since everything McCain/Palin are proposing is essentially to recycle the same economic plan and moral platform that GWB ran with. Even perpetuating Bush's war is a big part of the McCain "plan".

When push comes to shove I think the American people can be convinced (especially after 8 yrs of GWB) that it is better to have intelligent thoughtful people in government than dogmatic, anti-intellectuals.


Posted by: edhazer | September 6, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse


The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy believes that your life must be guided from birth to death by the government, its prohibitions, and its demands, a society in which everything not mandated by law is prohibited.
To achieve this, progressives come at voters from all directions, conjuring up hoaxes like global warming, promises of often imaginary “clean” energy, the demand to end “urban sprawl,” the “right” of same-sex couples to marry, support for the United Nations, and endless charges of racism, among other charades, to gain control of the federal government and its judiciary system in order to implement a top-down control of your life."

for no other reason than to quiet the deamons of discontent in their own heads and souls.

They profess:

· Tolerance and stalwart support of the 1st Amendment, but yet so despise the ‘noise’ coming from conservative talk radio, that they want to end it entirely. The Fairness Doctrine is one such tool and you can bet your last paycheck, they’ll roll it out with an Obama presidency. Pelosi and Clinton have said as much.

· Desire for civil discussion but yet use profanity in referring to prominent American conservatives, ascribing as “Hate Speech” the analytical and thoughtful observations of conservatism.

· Love of god and country, but yet ridicule as rubes people in the heartland that cling to their god and their guns and think it ‘quaint’ that people wear flag pins.

· Desire to bring the country together, but yet cheer when Joe Biden says he’ll bring Bush and Cheney up on war crimes.

· Support for feminism, but pull out all stops to use their propaganda tool – the American establishment press to demonize a woman who has made her future without riding the back of a man, who chooses to keep her downs-syndrome child, and who comes from a state of Rednecks . . . all this unbelievably against the background of Elizabeth Edwards and Bill Clinton being the archetype of women empowerment.

· They champion individual freedom and small business innovation, but through taxation and onerous government control, want to pound down the nail that sticks up and penalize the producers of our nation . . . . In Obama’s words – those rich people who earn over $200K/yr, ignoring the mega wealthy (Soros, Kennedy, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, etc . . whose vast wealth is sheltered through complex trusts.)

· Support for rule of law, but yet label as “Racist” those who think it congruent with rule of law to deport those here illegally.

IN SHORT ;THEIR OBSESSIVE COMPULSIVE URGE TO CONTROL OTHERS LIVES RESULTS FROM THEIR OWN LIVES BEING SO OUT OF CONTROL....

Posted by: rtfanning | September 6, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Some people call me a MAVERICK, I march to the beat of my own drum and I'm not afraid to toot my own horn.

Posted by: Ron | September 6, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

ROE V WADE reasonable in cases of DOWNES SYNDROME-in fact more of these than RAPE/INCEST/MOTHERS HEALTH-PARTICULARLY AFTER 40.

MORE AUTHENTIC TO ABORT downes sydrome-WITH 4 OTHER KIDS-as GOVERNOR, FRANKLY.

Posted by: JJ | September 6, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Give Republicans a Real Maverick.
If you're not going to buy into the McCain gimmicks, Vote Republican Ron Paul.
If you're really concerned about National Security and know Palin's not the best Republican VP choice we have. You have a better alternative.
Unlike McCain who's been in the Senate 25 years and agrees with Bush 95% of the time. Republican Ron Paul holds true the soul of the Republican Party.
Republican's know, if you don't like the public school system, there's Private or Group homeschooling options. None of this school welfare.
Republican's shouldn't have to pay for someone who chooses to overeat junk foods, sugar and alcohol then gets diabetes and heart disease. Why should they pay for other peoples' special needs children or adults. They choose it, they should stop whining and get another job to accommodate their choice.
Don't have health insurance or a good job. Find another one this is America! Don't make Republicans pay for your Special needs.
Independents, Republicans, I urge you, for our country. Ron Paul doesn’t have the McCain/Palin baggage. Vote Republican Ron Paul, check him out at least! Then get the word out to all Republicans who don't want the same Bush 4th term, who don't want McCain/Palin sarcasm, although funny, hasn’t offered any solutions.
Please copy this post everywhere, Ron Paul the Real Maverick.

Posted by: Republican Alternative | September 6, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

I think it was reckless, dangerous, and irresponsible for McCain to pick Palin. Sure, I'm a Dem. but it is astounding to me that Repubs. actually say she is qualified with a straight face. One would have to be an idiot to say that. Think about it really hard. Can you really picture her taking over in an emergency? What an insult to this country and to the world to make this win at all cost move. I repect true conservitives. They balance the liberals. This pick was just off the charts. I just can't believe that the cooler heads in the Repub. party didn't stop this pathetic pick.

Posted by: md | September 6, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Palin tried to have books banned when she was mayor and tried to fire a librarian who stood up to her. She made all her city managers sign letters of resignation to "show their loyalty" to her. She is currently being investigated for abuse of power by the Alaska legislature. The prosecutor has audiotapes, emails, and multiple witnesses. She abused her power as mayor, she abused her power as governor, and she will abuse her power if she ever gets to Washington. Hopefully, she will be indicted on Oct. 31st and that will be the end of her.

Posted by: Chris33 | September 6, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

to those who state that's it ok to not like sen.obama because he sat in a church that preached black liberation theology{self reliance and self responsibility} for 20yrs and it shaped his ideas,while in the same breath say that he wants the government to be a wet nurse to the american public with a host of social programs designed to... not only infringe upon but in some cases eliminate the need for self reliance and self responsibility thus making a once proud and free people reliant on big government to nourish and substain them;but they think it's ok to give millions in tax breaks to wealthy and big business with progams designed to not only...,then their are those who claim it's ok to hate sen.obama because while at said church he sat thur 20yrs of hate the white man preachings by his pastor so he must be a racist hate monger himself{while ignoring the fact that his mother is white and he was raised by white grandparents}and that his true colors and agenda for the white race will become evident once he's sworn into office these same people have probably not only sat thru but more than likely participated in or condoned over the yrs not only hateful racist discriminorty and bigoted acts upon not only persons of color but persons of their own race who don't agree with their judgement or values. and now their feeble little hate filled paranoide minds are working overtime with dooms day and worst case scenario of what horrors electing an afro-american as president would have on their ideal white america{it's the white house not the hood there goes the property vaule and the neighbor... [dare i say it... HOOD]}and fear that it is their turn to reap the years of hate,pettiness bigotry and racism they have sown but alas it is not to be for VENGANCES IS MINE SATH THE LORD and as much as you mock sen obama as the messiah he is but a man who will soon be president of all america so YOU HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR BUT THE FEAR OF YOURSELVES

Posted by: brkdckdwg | September 6, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

oh this is sweet...Palin now more popular than McCain and NoBama.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/palin_power_fresh_face_now_more_popular_than_obama_mccain

way to go lefty media. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

-We have been promised that a plethera of moral issues would be looked into, if not solved, by our current President and VP. They have had 8 years to appoint judges that could overturn Roe Vs. Wade. I ask you, where does that currently stand? Empty promises that were made only to appeal to the voters whose moral consciences have not been seared to the point where killing babies was acceptable in our Western Society.

Everyone speaks about how much they want this country back, America back. That seems to be the united cry of both parties, but again I ask questions. How come you didn't listen to Paul or Huckabee? How come one of them didn't get the nomination? Is it because you Republicans actually followed (like sheep to slaughter) the leadings of the press to discount both candidates? Of course you did.

One thing both of these candidates had in common was their concern over the deficit and spending. Both of them wanted our moneys to be spent on our failing infrastructure. Both of them see that this war is making us more of a target than we were before 9-11. Also consider today’s news that our Federal funds are depleted for our roads and highways. Where did they go, I wonder? You worry about our taxes being raised for social programs or infrastructure by the Democrats, but if we continue in this war, we will be paying much the same for repair on our cars.

This war is illegal and Bush/Cheney should be tried as war criminals. Hundreds of thousands of innocents have perished in this war and yet your claim to fame is that we need to continue to fight the war on terror. As it stands now, we ARE the terrorists much in the same way we were when this country was taken from the original inhabitants.

Now you want to elect a second coming of the same old regime. Were any of you there when our President elect and his cronies in Washington penciled the Patriot Act? Do you even know what that does to our Constitutional Rights? Did McCain or his teleprompted sidekick ( and don’t say it broke down, you could see the teleprompter working fine during her drivel) say anything about getting rid of, or overhauling, that written atrocity? No, but they did recommend we stay in Iraq.

They want to continue spending all our money on this war on terror. They have no relief for our failing social programs, our over tired teachers, our youth in crisis. But yet they claim to ‘Love America’. Palin’s daughter will have the best of care and won’t suffer from the economic crushes that most teen parents go through on a daily basis because they choose to live with their mistake and raise their babies. If they are elected, those pregnant teens or new teen mothers will not get any relief. Much in the same way they are not getting any now.

You staunch Republicans need to ask yourselves these questions. Of all your party candidates, you chose the least likely to succeed in taking America back. You made a grave mistake in choosing McCain. IF he makes it through the next 4 years (considering his failing health) you won’t see anything to help America get through it’s current woes because although he talks the talk, he won’t be able to walk it. The war is costing us.

Oh and ‘what does a VP do anyway?’ Palin won’t be able to handle the Executive office of the Presidency because there aren’t any crash courses on it and you can’t teleprompt yourself through that, Palin. If there were, you would think Bush would have been prompted to take them by now.

Posted by: BK Moore | September 6, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

As far as Palin goes...hey, I hope the left keeps piling it on. All the rumors, deranged allegations, tin foil hat theories....you are doing McCains job for him. Do you realize how many people you are turning off? More importantly, how many people you are going to turn Palins way with this nastiness? Keep it up! As much as you want to be acoloyates for the new Messiah, half of you won't put down your bongs and come out from Moms basement come election day.

Bye bye Barry....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Who would believe the republicans would bring in the first true communist subversive to our government. The left should give this woman a chance. Look what she did with oil profits in Alaska. Now we simply need her to direct that money into a national health program to be paid for by energy company's profits.

Last year, 2007, Alaska's legislature approved a major increase on those popular-with-the-government-educated-set windfall profits on the oil industry. And guess who is profiting ... the government.

When it comes down to it, the state of Alaska has received more than $10 billion this year from oil revenue. Thanks to the addition of these new taxes (on top of the taxes already in place), that is double the amount it received the year before. Now the government's biggest problem ... trying to figure out how to spend the money.

The first idea on how to spend the money comes from Alaska's governor Sarah Palin. Her administration last week got approval for a government program that gives $1,200 to every single Alaskan to help them pay for gas. But that's not all. On top of that, each resident will receive their annual dividend of $2,000 from an oil-wealth savings account.

That's a fancy way of describing wealth redistribution. This is not something that should happen in a free enterprise economy. This IS something that will happen in a country with a state-run economy.

BP Alaska has already delayed development in the western region of the North Slope solely because of these new taxes. In fact, BP Alaska paid more than $500 million in taxes to Alaska last quarter. That is far more than the company earned in profits from the oil. Or take a look at ConocoPhillips, which scrapped a $300 million refinery project ... because of the new taxes.

When it comes right down to it, the state of Alaska gets $49 of every $120 barrel of oil ... not counting other fees. ConocoPhillips says that once royalty payments and other taxes are added in, the state of Alaska gets 75% of the value of every barrel of oil.

THIS IS ONE PROGRESSIVE THAT MAY JUST END UP LIKING HER. HER AND HER HUBBY WERE ALSO MEMBERS OF A SUBVERSIVE GROUP TRYING TO ESTABLISH ALASKA AS A REPUBLIC AND SUCEDE FROM THE UNION...THANKS McCAIN.

Posted by: BASEMENT FROG | September 6, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Who would believe the republicans would bring in the first true communist subversive to our government. The left should give this woman a chance. Look what she did with oil profits in Alaska. Now we simply need her to direct that money into a national health program to be paid for by energy company's profits.

Last year, 2007, Alaska's legislature approved a major increase on those popular-with-the-government-ed ucated-set windfall profits on the oil industry. And guess who is profiting ... the government.

When it comes down to it, the state of Alaska has received more than $10 billion this year from oil revenue. Thanks to the addition of these new taxes (on top of the taxes already in place), that is double the amount it received the year before. Now the government's biggest problem ... trying to figure out how to spend the money.

The first idea on how to spend the money comes from Alaska's governor Sarah Palin. Her administration last week got approval for a government program that gives $1,200 to every single Alaskan to help them pay for gas. But that's not all. On top of that, each resident will receive their annual dividend of $2,000 from an oil-wealth savings account.

That's a fancy way of describing wealth redistribution. This is not something that should happen in a free enterprise economy. This IS something that will happen in a country with a state-run economy.

BP Alaska has already delayed development in the western region of the North Slope solely because of these new taxes. In fact, BP Alaska paid more than $500 million in taxes to Alaska last quarter. That is far more than the company earned in profits from the oil. Or take a look at ConocoPhillips, which scrapped a $300 million refinery project ... because of the new taxes.

When it comes right down to it, the state of Alaska gets $49 of every $120 barrel of oil ... not counting other fees. ConocoPhillips says that once royalty payments and other taxes are added in, the state of Alaska gets 75% of the value of every barrel of oil.

THIS IS ONE LIBERAL THAT MAY BE HAPPY WITH HER. SHE AND HER HUBBY WERE MEMBERS OF A PARTY THAT WORKED TO HAVE ALASKA SECEDE FROM THE UNION, TOO.

WOW.....WHAT A PIC, THANKS McCAIN

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

-We have been promised that a plethera of moral issues would be looked into, if not solved, by our current President and VP. They have had 8 years to appoint judges that could overturn Roe Vs. Wade. I ask you, where does that currently stand? Empty promises that were made only to appeal to the voters whose moral consciences have not been seared to the point where killing babies was acceptable in our Western Society.

Everyone speaks about how much they want this country back, America back. That seems to be the united cry of both parties, but again I ask questions. How come you didn't listen to Paul or Huckabee? How come one of them didn't get the nomination? Is it because you Republicans actually followed (like sheep to slaughter) the leadings of the press to discount both candidates? Of course you did.

One thing both of these candidates had in common was their concern over the deficit and spending. Both of them wanted our moneys to be spent on our failing infrastructure. Both of them see that this war is making us more of a target than we were before 9-11. Also consider today’s news that our Federal funds are depleted for our roads and highways. Where did they go, I wonder? You worry about our taxes being raised for social programs or infrastructure by the Democrats, but if we continue in this war, we will be paying much the same for repair on our cars.

This war is illegal and Bush/Cheney should be tried as war criminals. Hundreds of thousands of innocents have perished in this war and yet your claim to fame is that we need to continue to fight the war on terror. As it stands now, we ARE the terrorists much in the same way we were when this country was taken from the original inhabitants.

Now you want to elect a second coming of the same old regime. Were any of you there when our President elect and his cronies in Washington penciled the Patriot Act? Do you even know what that does to our Constitutional Rights? Did McCain or his teleprompted sidekick ( and don’t say it broke down, you could see the teleprompter working fine during her drivel) say anything about getting rid of, or overhauling, that written atrocity? No, but they did recommend we stay in Iraq.

They want to continue spending all our money on this war on terror. They have no relief for our failing social programs, our over tired teachers, our youth in crisis. But yet they claim to ‘Love America’. Palin’s daughter will have the best of care and won’t suffer from the economic crushes that most teen parents go through on a daily basis because they choose to live with their mistake and raise their babies. If they are elected, those pregnant teens or new teen mothers will not get any relief. Much in the same way they are not getting any now.

You staunch Republicans need to ask yourselves these questions. Of all your party candidates, you chose the least likely to succeed in taking America back. You made a grave mistake in choosing McCain. IF he makes it through the next 4 years (considering his failing health) you won’t see anything to help America get through it’s current woes because although he talks the talk, he won’t be able to walk it. The war is costing us.

Oh and ‘what does a VP do anyway?’ Palin won’t be able to handle the Executive office of the Presidency because there aren’t any crash courses on it and you can’t teleprompt yourself through that, Palin. If there were, you would think Bush would have been prompted to take them by now.

Posted by: BK Moore | September 6, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

-We have been promised that a plethera of moral issues would be looked into, if not solved, by our current President and VP. They have had 8 years to appoint judges that could overturn Roe Vs. Wade. I ask you, where does that currently stand? Empty promises that were made only to appeal to the voters whose moral consciences have not been seared to the point where killing babies was acceptable in our Western Society.

Everyone speaks about how much they want this country back, America back. That seems to be the united cry of both parties, but again I ask questions. How come you didn't listen to Paul or Huckabee? How come one of them didn't get the nomination? Is it because you Republicans actually followed (like sheep to slaughter) the leadings of the press to discount both candidates? Of course you did.

One thing both of these candidates had in common was their concern over the deficit and spending. Both of them wanted our moneys to be spent on our failing infrastructure. Both of them see that this war is making us more of a target than we were before 9-11. Also consider today’s news that our Federal funds are depleted for our roads and highways. Where did they go, I wonder? You worry about our taxes being raised for social programs or infrastructure by the Democrats, but if we continue in this war, we will be paying much the same for repair on our cars.

This war is illegal and Bush/Cheney should be tried as war criminals. Hundreds of thousands of innocents have perished in this war and yet your claim to fame is that we need to continue to fight the war on terror. As it stands now, we ARE the terrorists much in the same way we were when this country was taken from the original inhabitants.

Now you want to elect a second coming of the same old regime. Were any of you there when our President elect and his cronies in Washington penciled the Patriot Act? Do you even know what that does to our Constitutional Rights? Did McCain or his teleprompted sidekick ( and don’t say it broke down, you could see the teleprompter working fine during her drivel) say anything about getting rid of, or overhauling, that written atrocity? No, but they did recommend we stay in Iraq.

They want to continue spending all our money on this war on terror. They have no relief for our failing social programs, our over tired teachers, our youth in crisis. But yet they claim to ‘Love America’. Palin’s daughter will have the best of care and won’t suffer from the economic crushes that most teen parents go through on a daily basis because they choose to live with their mistake and raise their babies. If they are elected, those pregnant teens or new teen mothers will not get any relief. Much in the same way they are not getting any now.

You staunch Republicans need to ask yourselves these questions. Of all your party candidates, you chose the least likely to succeed in taking America back. You made a grave mistake in choosing McCain. IF he makes it through the next 4 years (considering his failing health) you won’t see anything to help America get through it’s current woes because although he talks the talk, he won’t be able to walk it. The war is costing us.

Oh and ‘what does a VP do anyway?’ Palin won’t be able to handle the Executive office of the Presidency because there aren’t any crash courses on it and you can’t teleprompt yourself through that, Palin. If there were, you would think Bush would have been prompted to take them by now.

Posted by: BK Moore | September 6, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin lied about the bridge to nowhere, her role in Trooper-gate...and even referred to Obama as "Sambo". I want no parts of her...everything about her is coming up dirty
http://roschellenelson.blogspot.com

Posted by: roschelle | September 6, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Nobody that vote Mc Same watches Colbert?

Posted by: natoir1 | September 6, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Palin - The real scandal

Seen from the air, Sarah Palin's state is an environmental wonderland. From Anchorage to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, there is a vast landscape of snow-capped peaks, fjords, crystal glaciers, coastal lagoons, wide river deltas and tundra.

The guardian of this wilderness – and Governor of Alaska – has, this week, become one of the most recognisable faces in the world. But behind her beaming smile and wholesome family values is a woman aligned with the big oil and coal firms that are racing to exploit Alaska's vast energy reserves. In the short term, that has bought her popularity at home.

"I love the woman," the pilot on our flight shouts over the noise of the engine, "especially what she wants to do with oil, we just have to drill more, there is no alternative. What's the point of leaving it all in the ground?"

It is a stance that guaranteed John McCain's new running mate a rapturous reception at the Republican convention this week where the response to the coming energy crisis was a chant of "drill, baby, drill".

But the woman who could soon be a 72-year-old's heartbeat away from the United States presidency has an environmental policy so toxic it would make the incumbent, George Bush, blush.

Mr McCain has stressed he is concerned about global warming and has come out against drilling in the Arctic reserve. But, in recent weeks, he has wobbled on the issue. And environmentalists are describing Mrs Palin, who denies climate change is man-made, as "either grossly misinformed or intentionally misleading".

She wants to start drilling. She wants to block US moves to list the polar bear as an endangered species. And she has allowed big game hunters to shoot Alaska's bears and wolves from low-flying planes.

The 44-year-old governor says a federal government decision to protect the polar bear will cripple energy development offshore. As a result, she is suing the Bush administration, which ruled the polar bear is endangered and needs protection.

The US Geological Survey says climate change has shrunk Arctic summer sea ice to about 1.65 million sq miles, nearly 40 per cent less than the long-term average between 1979 and 2000.

In such a situation it was unconscionable for Governor Palin to ignore overwhelming evidence of global warming's threat to sea ice, says Kassie Siegel of the Centre for Biological Diversity.

"Even the Bush administration can't deny the reality of global warming," Ms Siegel said. "The governor is aligning herself and the state of Alaska with the most discredited, fringe, extreme viewpoints by denying this."

Governor Palin would also like to bring open-cast coal mining to Alaska's Brooks Range Mountains, an act of environmental vandalism in the eyes of many.

The Palin administration has allowed Chevron to triple the amount of toxic waste it pours into the waters of Cook Inlet. This, even though the number of beluga whales in the bay has collapsed from 1,300 to 350 – the point of extinction – because of pollution and increased ship traffic.

On the Republican convention floor she said: "We Americans need to produce more of our own oil and gas and take it from a gal who knows the North Slope of Alaska: We've got lots of both."

The fact that drilling won't solve every problem "is no excuse to do nothing at all", she said, putting the country on notice that "starting in January, in a McCain-Palin administration, we're going to lay more pipelines ... build more nuclear plants ... create jobs with clean coal ... and move forward on solar, wind, geothermal and other alternative sources".

Mrs Palin also took a swipe at Barack Obama's environmental stance saying: "What does he actually seek to accomplish, after he's done turning back the waters and healing the planet?"

Her support in Alaska relies on squeezing more money for the state from the oil companies themselves. In Alaska, every man woman and child is in line for a bonus cheque of about $2,000 (£1,100) from the state's massive oil wealth fund. This is, in effect, a vote-buying machine for the would-be Vice-President.

Governor Palin wants nothing to hinder the oil companies. She maintains that polar bears are well managed and their population has dramatically increased over 30 years as a result of conservation. And if the ice should go away, then they will adapt to living on the land.

Many oil companies abandoned Alaska when prices fell in the 1980s but they have been rushing back to drill and prospect areas that are among the least hospitable on earth. That spirit of the Klondike is already in full swing in Prudhoe Bay the epicentre of oil production and one of the world's largest industrial complexes. It's so big that BP, UPS and FedEx operate a special fleet of jets from Anchorage just to service to the region.

Hundreds of spills involving tens of thousands of gallons of crude oil and other petroleum products occur in the area each year. Decades-old spills are still a problem and 17,000 acres of wildlife and marine habitat have already been destroyed.

But Prudhoe is just a tiny fraction of the area being targeted by Governor Palin and the oil companies. A similar fate of environmental destruction awaits the entire coastal plain as well as the special areas of the western Arctic – home to migratory caribou herds, musk oxen, wolverines, grizzly and polar bears should a McCain-Palin administration be elected.

The oil boom has attracted oilmen from across America. One of them is Todd Palin, husband to the vice-presidential candidate who works for BP on Alaska's North Slope.

It is illegal to hunt polar bears, and that is not about to change. But in an area known as "Polar Bear Seas", from Point Hope on Alaska's far western edge to the pristine coastal plain of the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, one tenth of the world's polar bear population is at risk, as well as beluga and bowheaded whales and bearded and spotted seals.

Big game hunters are happy to pay lots of money to shoot wolves and bears from the air. They also chase them across the snow to the point of exhaustion and then land the planes on skis, shooting them from point-blank range. The animals are considered endangered across the "lower 48" states of America, but not Alaska. The hunters keep and sell the animals' pelts.

Last year, Mrs Palin proposed offering a bounty of $150 per wolf, as long as the hunter provided the wolf's foreleg as proof of the kill. The measure did not pass. She even spent $400,000 on a state-funded campaign to block attempts to end the hunt.

Its not just wildlife conservationists who object. Many ordinary Alaskans also condemn the practice as barbaric.

Trish Rolfe, who runs the Sierra Club's Alaska office, thinks Governor Palin has been a disaster for Alaska's environment. "The idea that she stands up to the oil companies is a joke," she says.

"The governor pays lip service to the issue of global warming but denies it is man made. She will not even spend money to help the Inupiaq villages which are about to fall into the sea."

Posted by: Kenn | September 6, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

If you really want to know who Palin is go to http://mudflats.wordpress.com - everything you ever wanted to know about her is there. And it ain't pretty.

As far as abortion is concerned - why don't the repubs look at the issue for what it really is? Lack of sex education, lack of education, period, lack of enough activities for our kids to be engaged in, lack of parent "training," lack of family planning, lack of protection against violent crimes, lack of finding ways of solving the crime issue and the list goes on. If you want to attack the problem of abortion - attack the problem that creates the need or desire to have one. But no matter what, a woman should be allowed to make her own decision, no matter what. If they're so hot on saving lives what's up with the death penalty? Why aren't they vegetarians and why do they keep wanted to go to war. At least be consistent in your notion of preserving life. If the radical right gets its way we'll all be living in a country run by extreme fanatics - we'll be as bad as al q'aeda or the taliban or any other country overrun by religion. There's a reason the first amendment exists and that's to keep religion out of politics. Why does it keep creeping back in?

Posted by: Sydney | September 6, 2008 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I wish this were true to allow for a reasoned debate:

"User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site."
Examples:
- sneering
- skinny a- fool
- hate machine
- nanny nanny boo boo
- DID A HATCHET JOB
- incompetent boob
- party is probably paying people to pretend
- Repugs
- will do anything to get into power
- Why dont you all just admit that you wont vote for Obama because he is black!
- plain ignorant
- Hussein Obama
- the fraud
- the Messiah
- Pharisees
- political nutcase
- FrankSinatra generation is not trustworthy
- inferior race
- mental illness
- contempt for the electoral process
- hate machine in action. predujice, red necks, evangelicals
- war-mongers
- Liars and thieves


Thank you uffdaron for your valid remarks :

Reading the tone and level of thought and civility in most of these blogs should be required for anyone studying American history and politics. The reasons we end up with such dumb political leaders who are interested in nothing but themselves is readilly apparent. Voters get what they deserve and this bunch will get some beauties. Freedom isn't for all. No one ever went broke underestimating the taste, or sophistication, of the American public.
Posted by: uffdaron | September 6, 2008 9:31 AM

Posted by: Iwish | September 6, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Rape is a terrible crime against another person whether or not it results in a pregnancy, if it does result in a pregnancy the woman should be able to put that child up for adoption. A woman that has been raped will feel a terrible personal wound for a long time no matter if she was impregnated or not.

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What the hell? You are a crazy person. If a woman is raped, you believe that she takes on the responsibility of carrying the baby for 9 months, paying for the prenatal care (I don't see a Palin Administration being too interested in providing any kind of financial support here, either, by the way), delivering the baby, and then putting it up for adoption? How can you be saying this with a straight face? I'm not even a woman, and it nauseates me like the three months of morning sickness you're so happy to lay at the feet of some rape or incest victim so as to satisfy your own self-righteous notions.

This is exactly why religious fundamentalists can't be allowed to govern. In all cases where they control government (see Iran for details), you can find fine examples of their willingness to let other people suffer miserably to satisfy their own personal moral code.

Posted by: Joe | September 6, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Nominate McCain POW of the century!! It seems that's all he wants....not be president of the United States of America.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/McCainPOW/

Posted by: T | September 6, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse


Little boy liberals are crying. Mama came home and spanked them. A real woman is in town and she doesn't have time for boys.

Posted by: julia | September 6, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm.

There once was a surplus...no more Bush/McCain. How about that debt? Bush/McCain Oh. Highest unemployment.
Bush/McCain Largest expansion in federal government in history. Bush/McCain Seems the Republicans led by Bush/McCain have burdens every American with the largest government spend program ever. Oh...Pallin..didn't sell the jet on Ebay but to a campaign contributor for a $600k under market price. Great business person she is. Will she be able to abstain?

Posted by: tony | September 6, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Palin must do media interviews unscripted now. Sign the petition:

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/PalinMediaInterviews/

Posted by: ConcernedCitizen | September 6, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Here is the REAL reason why McCain chose Palin. He has no shame... Check it out, it's a pretty unique perspective from a religious point of view - surprising.

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 6, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse


To all those that has an issue with Roe vs Wade:

Sarah palin believes in the value of a human life.
No matter what anyone believes about the abortion issue, it is not a religiousissue.

I don't believe that abortion is ever mentioned in the bible, so whatever your feelings about abortion, you have the right to feel what you want.
The seperation of church and state is very important because at one time the church was very dictatorial and even had more authority than kings and queens.
The church was responsible for the Inquisistion, and religion is responsible for most of the bloody wars down through history ......so I don't believe that thechurch really believes in the sanctity of life as Sarah Palin does.

Abortion is a matter of taking a life, and as far as I know it is against the law to take a life, and untill the law is changed that is alright if you kill someone abortion is illegal, it is not a religious issue.

Rape is a terrible crime against another person whether or not it results in a pregnancy, if it does result in a pregnancy the woman should be able to put that child up for adoption. A woman that has been raped will feel a terrible personal wound for a long time no matter if she was impregnated or not.
The issue of abortion should be left up to the individual States and the Federal government should have no power in the determination.
The Federal government should get out of our schools and our bedrooms and our hospitals, out of our bathrooms and out of our vehicles, etc., etc.....
I fear that both John McCain and Barack Obama are determined to expand the dictatorial powers of the Federal government, but of the two, I fear Obama the most for his big Federal government programs.


Why all the concern about experience when it comes to a presidential candidate?
Is it better to have a politician with much experience but is corrupt, and that
believes in pork barrel philosophy and screwing the people and building more
expensive big government programs for the sake of promoting despotism, or a
candidte that will balance the budget, give power back to the people and cut the
bureaucracy of big government dictators and surrounding themselves with a good
knowledgable staff, to take our country in the right direction?
I am one American citizen that is sick of both Republican and Democrats (like
Stevens and Reid for example), that have no problem causing our country to have
massive debt.
Give us jobs and self respect and let us have the power of making decisions
about our health insurance and our schools, etc., etc. and not some political
dictator.


Why all the concern about experience when it comes to a presidential candidate?
Is it better to have a politician with much experience but is corrupt, and that
believes in pork barrel philosophy and screwing the people and building more
expensive big government programs for the sake of promoting despotism, or a
candidte that will balance the budget, give power back to the people and cut the
bureaucracy of big government dictators and surrounding themselves with a good
knowledgable staff, to take our country in the right direction?
I am one American citizen that is sick of both Republican and Democrats (like
Stevens and Reid for example), that have no problem causing our country to have
massive debt.
Give us jobs and self respect and let us have the power of making decisions
about our health insurance and our schools, etc., etc. and not some political
dictator.

Posted by: trueblueamerican | September 6, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

I would like to know how many of the Bush and McCain supporters were just so fed up with the Republican politics, refused their Stimulas Package? It seems to me if someone is really against these policies of the GOP then they shouldn't accept any of the tax breaks offered to them. Hypocrisy is just so ridiculous within the Democratic voters. They are completly one sided and can't see the forest for the trees!!! If Obama wins then you get what you deserve.

Posted by: linda setters | September 6, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Some info on Sarah Palin...

http://www.wral.com/golo/blogpost/3494879/

Posted by: Frank | September 6, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Of course it's nothing to do with Obama's politics. The dem view that government must do for us becasue we can't, nor could we possibly even know whats best for us. Government is the answer. Take from the working people and give to those unwilling to work. Setup a generation to generation dependant class by clouding opportunity so much that those in the lower clasees can't even see it anymore. Obama himself rose far above his humble beginnings. Is that not proof that opportunity is abundant in the US? Instead we get the same tired lines. I don't care if he is black white green or blue.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

Why dont you all just admit that you wont vote for Obama because he is black!
Yes, Palin is very eloquent and charismatic but has not even been in Europe EVER !!!
It will take more than "small town mentality" to bring Peace to this world!!!
...
Go OBAMA GO!!!

Posted by: CAL | September 6, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

And at the end of the day this thing is a virtual dead heat. Wasn't the semi-final between hill an bo supposed to be the real game? The finals should have been blowout victory for the dems, right? Well maybe the country is just a little more conservative than the dems think. Just say no to BO.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

It is amazing how ill informed and plain ignorant all these anti-Pain left wing Democrats are. All you hear is Pain is a heart beat away from the Presidency.Let me educate you.Any President or Vice-President, which will be Palin,surrounds themselves with expert advisors.No one person makes any important decision, including war.Advisors include military, economic,foreign, religious,etc. There could be a dozen or more people involved in a decision, before the President makes the final one. So Palin only needs to have common sense, morals, character and good judgement which she has plenty of, more then Hussein Obama, the one, the fraud, the racist, the most dangerous man in this election.

Posted by: frank v | September 6, 2008 9:45 AM | Report abuse

This is not a story. I read blogs occasionally and it is not news that bloggers are biased and uninformed. I could have read these comments myself, when they were originally posted if I felt they were of any importance. I chose not to, but found myself reading them anyway; because you disguised these rantings as a news story. I wish I could get paid as a writer and then simply c&p comments from bloggers onto the page. Sweet gig.

Posted by: Clif | September 6, 2008 9:39 AM | Report abuse

One of you here wrote:"One topic being given almost no coverage in the press is Sarah Palin's political philosophy. I am concerned about Sarah Palin's connections to the Alaskan Independence Party. The AIP seeks a vote on whether Alaska should secede from the United States. Gov. Palin is shown on the AIP website greeting its members at a recent convention. Her husband belonged to the AIP until 2002 when her political plans began to grow."

Do you think this is a detriment, this willingness to revolt on Palin's part? Obviously, you are not in touch with the underlying sentiments in the country today. I've had friends, conservative friends within the banking industry tell me that perhaps it's time for another Tea Party. Everywhere you turn people want change--but not Obama's kind of change, where he's the Messiah and we're supposed to grovel at his feet in blind obeasance. No, we the People out here who are this close to taking up arms and throwing both parties of the do-nothing Congress out of Washington, we want a return to the Constitution. And despite what mud may be slung at Bush, that mud-slinging itself is designed to do only one thing--divert attention from the solid FACT that the Democrats have had a majority in Congress for the last three years and have done nothing. Zip. Zero. Did they stand up to Bush? No. Did they do any one thing to better the lives of the people they mean to rule? NO. All we've gotten out of them for our money was a lot of rhetoric and a herd of nonbinding resolutions--make work to look busy and get nothing done, rock no boats, especially those wealthy boats keeping their campaign coffers full. The same wealthy boats who want Obama in the Oval Office because he's too naive to know he's being controlled by the men who make his so-called "energy plan" among other less attractive "policies".

Do we want an admitted plagiarist (nice term for liar)as vice president to a "community organizer". And tell me, what happened to the "community" he organized after Obama was elected to the state senate? Does he still support them? If so, when and how? Or did he leave them to shift in the wind to further his own ambitions?

And you people who keep trying to bring Jesus into this--if Jesus were here...blah, blah, blah.

If Jesus walked the face of this Earth today, you wouldn't know him. He'd be below your social radar, all of you. He didn't recognize the painted faces of the Pharisees of his time then and he wouldn't recognize the so-called devout Christians of today either. The Pharisees then were sheep led by blind, greedy, power-hungry shepherds just as many of you are nothing but a modern version of the same. Jesus wasn't the God your marketers are happily spoon-feeding you, he was a man with a message of truth who died for his God, the Father just so that one of you might wake up and find said Father of whom he spoke of and so obviously loved. But you wouldn't find Jesus on bended knee in any church today any more than you'd find him groveling in the Temple in his day.

Members and proponents of both parties need to take responsibility for yourselves, your sins, and quit dragging religion into politics.

If Jesus were here, he'd wash his hands of the lot of you, even me.

Posted by: M.L. Bushman | September 6, 2008 9:36 AM | Report abuse


Reading the tone and level of thought and civility in most of these blogs should be required for anyone studying American history and politics. The reasons we end up with such dumb political leaders who are interested in nothing but themselves is readilly apparent. Voters get what they deserve and this bunch will get some beauties. Freedom isn't for all. No one ever went broke underestimating the taste, or sophistication, of the American public.

Posted by: uffdaron | September 6, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

The Republican Platform:
1. McCain is a Hero
2. We like to make war
3. We make fun of people

Posted by: Jonathan | September 6, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

No one needs to panic thinking Palin is some kind of extreme right winger just because she opposes abortion. She’s in the VP slot not the P slot. In any case a sitting president can do little besides appoint anti abortion judges to the Supreme Court that would over turn Roe v Wade as the would have to get the approval of a very liberal Senate this is unlikely to happen. The pro abortion crowd does not have to worry you will be able to keep killing your babies for a long time to come. As you can guess I’m anti abortion, Christian, but also a strong believer in freedom. I don’t agree with abortion, but would never support a ruling to outlaw it. Morality cannot be forced by law. People must be free to make the right choice on their own or it does not mean anything. This is a belief shared by most Christians. This is not heard very often. The reason for this is not heard often is because like many other topic the media allows the left to define the rights beliefs.

McCain and Palin are two people with strong beliefs. Not in themselves but in their country and the people that make it up. Neither of them started off with the desire to get into politics. McCain felt the call after his POW experience. He talks about this often as it was a defining point in his life. Palin got into politics with a desire first to improve the school that her children attended, then her town, her State, and now her country. These two are not to be feared or despised. They do not threaten you or your way of life.

Because it is often the left that gets to define what a conservative is, many people have the wrong idea of what it truly means. Conservatives believe in smaller federal government, personal responsibility, low taxes, strong defense, more power to the states, and in turn more power to the people. Conservatives do not subscribe to the Liberal tactic of class envy. We instead see all people as equal. With hard work and dedication anyone can be successful. All the government should do is get out of your way and allow you to keep the fruits of your labor. Liberals believe that if you’re successful it is only because you took advantage of somebody and should be punished by having your earnings taking from you in the form of taxes.

If there is any party to fear it is the Democrats. The party of tax and spend the party of big government with massive entitlement programs that remove choice. Sure they will allow you to have an abortion, but will you get in to see the doctor before the child is born with their health care plan?

Posted by: Batgeek | September 6, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

My goodness this must have taken some time to put together ... there are an awful lot of comments to muddle through! You guys must be given some credit for putting some in some kind of cohesive story. I was a little shocked at the 'incompetent boob' comment. Admittedly I am not wearing my glasses and initially read it as "incomplete boob" which brought on very strange, albeit macabre notions in my head. "What in the world does that mean?" I wondered. I pondered some contemporary literary symbollism that had yet to find its place in common language. But then I peered closer which tends to render a better reading of the word - incompetent indeed ... shocking. The boob has a reliable giving and nurturing staple for centuries and centuries - it has withstood the test of time as a measureable supporter of life on this planet ... it is an aberation of human dignity and an attempt to dimish its size and worth by comparing the boob to this present administration.

Posted by: how entertaining | September 6, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Here is the REAL reason why McCain chose Palin. He has no shame... Check it out, it's a pretty unique perspective from a religious point of view - surprising.

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 6, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse

When I was a child, my favorite wisdom story was "The Emperor's New Clothes" John McCain is a sick, quite possibly dying, old man (Just look at him for Heaven's sake.) Sarah Palin is a EXTREME right wing religious and political nutcase, whose views should be an abomination to TRUE Christians

Posted by: Phrank | September 6, 2008 7:52 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, but Obama is a joke, a dangerous one, but a joke. Thin-skinned, humourless and so damn full of himself....come on, he's getting schooled by Palin.

He needs to ditch the touchy-feelyness of Oprah and man up

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 7:50 AM | Report abuse

McCain's speech actually seemed to be more sane in comparison to what was spewed by the previous speakers. If anything happens to him, I would seriously run for my life should Palin have to take over as the most powerful leader in the world.

As a woman-well, girl actually-I'm still in my teens- I cannot imagine how the average woman who doesn't share Sarah Palin's extreme right wing views be inspired by her speech. I don't care if she's the first female vice-presidential nominee, she was definitely no Hillary. It came across to me as being rude and snide, with a dash of fear-mongering.

She basically distorted Obama's points and then attacked them. "We're in danger from terrorists and he (Obama) is worried there isn't anyone to read them their rights." Excuse me, the people currently squatting at Guantanamo Bay consist of detainees who have had their right to habeas corpus waived. It is indeed a genuine concern as to whether some of them have been imprisoned wrongfully. Of course, imprisoning people wrongfully and denying them access to a lawyer is just a PERFECT way to combat terrorism! Breed FEAR of what will happen should you decide to become a terrorist! Yes, fear, and RESENTMENT of the US in Islamic countries, because they'll see how hypocritical it is- preaching democracy and human rights and on the other hand suspending the rights of a certain select few who have been branded terrorists- some without conclusive evidence. For all you know this method could help Osama and Al-Qaeda drum up more support for their extremist groups. In the long run, we are going to have to bring the Muslims onto our side to speak out against a few individuals distorting their faith in order to win this battle against Islamic extremism.

Palin instead doesn't seem the sort who is willing to take this approach. She derides the fact that Obama is prepared to use diplomacy instead of guns against Iran. Unless she is willing to beat/slaughter/kill all of the US's enemies into submission until all of them are gone (massive collateral damage e.g), you will otherwise never solve this problem without talking to them- not neccessarily just using talk-things like sanctions can be thrown in- but perhaps avoiding enormous bloodshed. Nelson Mandela, for one, did. The South African government had committed numerous atrocities against him and his party members, but he did not let it stop him from sitting down to negotiate with them because he placed his country before himself- he saw that enough had already died in the near civil war that broke out back then, and that he had an opportunity to resolve this peacefully.

The situations faced are of course different, but I would prefer to see someone who is moderate, who is willing to compromise if the situation allows it-contrary to belief, this does not neccessarily mean national security will be threatened. Good judgement can ensure that. The hard-handed approach doesn't work all the time and has only earned the US more enemies.

Scientists have released alarming news about the North Pole melting rapidly. Polar bears have been drowning or starving-and she wants them off the Endangered Species List. Palin also doesn't believe in global warming and wants to "drill! drill! drill!" Have you seen what happens to the coasts where offshore drilling takes place?

Need I say more?

Posted by: anonymous | September 6, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

I THANK GOD WHO IS THE GOD OF LIFE. You know what has happen to life. We have never let the little voice's speak.I thank God for Sarah she had her baby.Jr.Sen.Obama said here I am over 100 times and he never said yea or nea.Sarah has over 24,000. workers to work with jr. Sen. Obama ?. Sarah has run office jr.Sen obama ? and there is no rights for sin

Posted by: npaikai | September 6, 2008 6:35 AM | Report abuse

Wow!!!You guys should read this...It is amazing article about Sen. Obama and Sen. McCain
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1220526712963&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 6:30 AM | Report abuse

Give us, outside US, a chance to respect USA for the first time in a decade and whatever you do, don't vote for bitter crackpots or sociopaths of any gender !!
This election is not only an election for the citizens od the United States of America. It's a very serious matter for the rest of the world. The FrankSinatra generation is not trustworthy, just remember that. The world have changed as well as the climate. A political climate change is needed urgently.

Posted by: Ture Sjolander | September 6, 2008 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Ok!!!Maybe Obama is a wrong choice for America but no more Republican.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 6:10 AM | Report abuse

In McCain's acceptance speech, he has shown his strength to help the weak, toughness to unyield to the present enemies, compassion to forgive the past enemies, the wisdom of years of life long experience. McCain personal characters, wisdom, and his judgement has been tested by FIRE and HELL. We all know who McCain is. Do we know that much about Obama? Have Obama's characters and his integrity been tested for the endurance of 20 years like McCain's? Or we just litterally trust him by hearing him saying, then cross our fingers and hope he will do as he says. How long do we know about this guy? He has just surfaced recently with an unclear background. Are you ready to give this guy the power to run this Great Country while you've hardly known him in the past 19 months? Ask Dr. Laura for her advice if you should fall in love and marry to a boy/girl that you've recently met in chatroom for 19 months, yet whom has done nothing but sweet talked...SO GROW UP DEMOCRATS!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 6:05 AM | Report abuse

Jewish post calls Obama Arrogant and provides argument to prove it. Also. provided the most provocative argument for Sarah to date.... pure genius.
I wish I could write like this lady.
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1220526712963&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

If you are a friend of Governor Palin pass it on. NOW

Posted by: friend of sarah | September 6, 2008 6:05 AM | Report abuse

Americans are tired of fighting. We're tired of seeking out conflicts so we'll have an excuse to give huge tax-payer funded contracts to our buddies. We're tired of it. We’re tired of hearing how scary the world is when our trade policies are immediately responsible for the scariness. Working class people are tired of working harder for less because we’re terrified of losing our jobs. The real fight is here at home but John McCain doesn’t know how to pick his battles. Republicans don’t know how to pick their battles. They’re like untamed animals. Everything is a threat. How does this behavior help to advance American progress?

Posted by: Hilary Smith | September 6, 2008 5:27 AM | Report abuse

Obama wants change for his career, change for his inferior race change for his social status. He wants a taste of Glory.
While McCain only want to do good for All American(Blacks, Whites, Brown, Yellow, and Red). McCain does not want change for himself because he has had it. He is a HERO. Now he just want to change the Great USA so that we can be proud to be AMERICAN.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 5:17 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a good talker his speech lives well in textbook. Obama's dream is an impossible one. But McCain, a straight talker, an honest man. His change is in touch with the reality and his dream is practical.

Posted by: tctran | September 6, 2008 5:05 AM | Report abuse

McCain knew Palin doesn't fit for the job from the get-go but he's just prostituting her out to get votes from old-horny-hard-headed conservatives who never liked him. Well good luck Mr. McCain, you'll need lots of that to win this election.

Posted by: josh | September 6, 2008 4:59 AM | Report abuse

How can anyone even think about voting for a ticket that includes an old man nearing death and a VP with no experience. She "once" belonged to the AIP? How ironic is it to want to break away from America, yet be one broken hip away from leading it?

How can the McCain campaign criticize the Obama camp for lack of experience when their VP has less experience than a burger flipper at Wendy's?

These questions seem to get swept under the rug so we can choke to death on how great her speach was. All the while hearing over, and over again about McCain's POW status. Let's hear about the thousands of sons and daughters who have lost their lives fighting for nothing. It is quite arrogant to brag about being a POW while others never even get to come home.

Posted by: ZUY | September 6, 2008 4:58 AM | Report abuse

"Let us not forget, she read the speech from a teleprompter and practiced for several days"

Actually, the teleprompters were broken and she was reported to have done it mostly from memory plus some adlibs.

Also note that ALL major speeches by the major candidates (including Obama) are speeches written by speechwriters that the candidate is delivering.

It's my observation that the strong reactions of Palin's speech and selection that usually resulted in silly logic (as in: ... when obama was young he sat in a crib and sucked on a wooden toy.. how does this make him qualified to be president?). Perhaps a true argument, but still silly. In any case, she's not the presidential candidate, obama's experience however it wants to be characterized pales to that of McCain.

It's my theory that the excellence of Palin's speech has Obama supporters scared silly because even they saw her as being "wow". I didn't like his choice of her (I'd have preferred the choice of the Democrat Liberman who also made the short list), but her speech changed my mind quite drastically because I saw the "wow" as well, but reacted a bit more positively.


Posted by: MK | September 6, 2008 4:58 AM | Report abuse

Since McCain doesn't think women should be paid equal to men with the same jobs, will he begin to help pay for his tax cuts and wars by demanding VP Palin take a pay cut?

Posted by: Aleks | September 6, 2008 4:37 AM | Report abuse

repukicans love war, military spending, guns, puppies, flags, bombing other countries, sappy country songs, big trucks, men's bathroom stalls.

It sounds like a mental illness to me. What's ya think?

Posted by: john shermer | September 6, 2008 4:36 AM | Report abuse

If McCain and Palin have great policies then they should rely on them and stop asking Voters to support him because of his war record.

If McCain thinks that losing a war is dishonourable then that is his problem. America lost the war in Vietnam. Iraq may ask the USa to LEAVE NOW.

Do not be surprised if America has to spend a fortune to win continuing 'loyalty' from Iraq. I expect that Iraq will identify its own agenda and that it will not coincide with that of the USA.

Bush was a Republican and all Republicans told us that he would make a great president. Well, he was and is a disaster. The Republicans do not want to know him. Almost none of them would vote for him BUT they want to tell us that they know who America should vote for this time.

This is BUNKUM.

America knows nothing about Palin. It knows Hillary. How can America make another foolish mistake by voting for an unknown? Just because she belongs to the NRA, eats moose burgers and does not believe in abortion does not constitute very much given that there are other issues.

McCain and Palin are scared. If Palin permits the media to interview her then she will be exposed as an airhead.

Posted by: Robert James | September 6, 2008 4:19 AM | Report abuse

I am disgusted with those bent on trashing Sarah Palin as McCain's VP pick. There are voters such as myself who don't just vote on social issues. Some things such as the economy, foreign policy, 2nd Amendment rights take a priority over social issues. My political views are somewhat in between both parties (as I am sure many others' are). I tend to be democratic on most social issues but republican on the role of government, taxes, foreign policy, health care etc...
As for experience, it is utterly absurd that Senator Obama would use his campaigning experience as a qualifier for being president as an attempt to downplay Gov. Palin's experience. For starters, she's running for VP not President and secondly Senator Obama made a big deal about his judgment not experience when making his national debut.
As for demographics and those who say that no democrat, or woman will be voting for a McCain-Palin ticket...Here's one. I am a registered democratic voter from NJ, and a college educated woman at that.
Senator Obama lost my vote when he repeatedly failed to explain his friendships or ties with questionable individuals (such as William Ayers, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and Anthony Rezko - to name a few). His repeated initial defense of said individuals followed by a quick denouncement is ridiculous. This seems like poor judgment and a complete failure to acknowledge poor judgment. I was young and more outspoken once. I hung out with the wrong crowd but I can talk about it when questioned. I can admit that I was wrong.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 4:06 AM | Report abuse

Palin has zero credit! McCain is living on broken dreams!

Posted by: s | September 6, 2008 3:30 AM | Report abuse

Letter to another Alaskan blogger:

"When Sarah was getting all of her "executive experience" as mayor of Wasilla, wasn't John Cramer actually running the City while Sarah was out chasing after the City Librarian, the Wasilla public safety commissioner...and trying to grab money to build a sports complex? Can you delve into that a little bit?

How about the people she's surrounded herself with in her current administration as governor of Alaska? Can we dig into THAT a little bit...never before have so many Alaskans of so few talents been moved so quickly from Wasilla to Juneau to take high-paying state positions -- and the only qualification being simpering and unwavering loyalty to Sarah.

Can you profile some of her staff, maybe? Let's hear more about her (lack of) judgement, her CHARACTER. I don't care who you ask (supporters and detractors) her experience *is* pretty thin, and I'd like to know more about who she IS because that's going to end up being more important than her experience.

Let's face it, I'm an Alaskan like you, but there are more people living in some suburbs of Chicago than live in the entire state of Alaska... I mean, just try this one on for size: a woman who has stepped up to attempt a run at the US VP position spent an inordinate amount of her time (during her "formative executive years as mayor of Wasilla") on a witch hunt after the City Librarian because that Librarian wouldn't pull books from the shelf which Sarah found personally offensive to her religious beliefs and personal views...

Let's hear some more about stuff like that... because what I got out of this speech was a real and incisive look at her character: catty, vindictive, petty and self-aggrandizing... Prom Queen. All the way. I heard popularity platitudes as she pandered to the crowd. I heard a lot of negativity but I DIDN'T hear much at ALL about what Sarah was FOR, what she and McCain are going to *DO* for this country.
She's good at back-biting and she can cut 'em down as good as any "mean girl" in any given high school cafeteria and at the end of the day, that's her character. That's what we'd have as a VP, and God-forbid, should the frail Sendator McCain croak, our President.

Posted by: Lydia | September 6, 2008 3:27 AM | Report abuse

McCain has turned this election into a soap opera about Sarah Palin and her family. Is this what we need to be talking about during these critical times when people are losing their jobs, their homes, and soldiers are losing their lives? Why is it that we are forced to deal with a hockey mom and her problems that can fill the National Enquirer ten times over? McCain clearly has contempt for the electoral process and the American people deserve so much more.

Posted by: jefflz | September 6, 2008 3:19 AM | Report abuse

Obama has been trying to rebuild his lead with tried and true techniques he learned as a community organizer:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3074/2831209065_01433bbbd4_o.jpg

Posted by: John Bailo | September 6, 2008 2:33 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin has great disdain for community organizers who try to help people get work when their jobs are lost because of outsourcing, who help people find housing, and who help single mothers get medical attention for their children. She wants us to believe that her 600 votes to be part time Mayor of Wasilla equal the work of an Illinois State Senator and United States Senator.

She has been mostly absent during her short tenure as Governor in a state which gets 85% of it's revenue from the major oil companies.

Barack Obama was a community organizer before going to Law School, becoming President of the Harvard Law School Review, teaching Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, working as a civil rights attorney at a law firm, serving eight years in the Illinois State Senate which serves one of the most populous states in the union, and was elected to the United States Senate.

Palin- got 600 votes as Mayor of Wasilla and largely spent her time trying to get books taken off the shelves of the town library. She doesn't even have a clue what is happening outside of the outback. Give us a break. She is not qualified to be President of the United States. She is nothing but a slap in the face of the numerous educated and qualified women who would make a far better President than this pretender. It would be comical if it weren't a disaster waiting to happen.

Check out www.gregpalast.com which addresses the Karl Rove voter disenfranchisement strategy for 2008.

Not this time, folks.

Posted by: Julie | September 6, 2008 2:20 AM | Report abuse

Dear People,
As chief prophet of the Alaskan Moose, I have one thing to say to all who applaud when Sarah Plain field dresses a Moose. We Moose do not appreciate this tendency of hers to shoot and skin us.

She thinks it's fun to shoot and quarter a Moose. Little does she know the Moose ain't enjoying the experience.

Last year she shot and skinned my uncle Ralph. Uncle Raplh was a genle soul who was against pastimes such as Moose Fighting. He was never happier than when he was among his books or listening to Moosic composed by his favourite composer, Moosart of Salzburg. It's a shame a fine Moose like uncle Raplh had to die to please a bunch of rednecks.

Posted by: Mooses | September 6, 2008 1:57 AM | Report abuse

How 'bout some Michelle/Sarah mud wrestling followed by some good ole beach volleyball and a few Buds. Then we can all set down and watch some Nascar on TV. Yahoo! Let the games begin....

Posted by: NVredneck | September 6, 2008 1:42 AM | Report abuse

The polls predicted that Palin's pick would woo women voters.

I am PROUD that women have proven them all wrong. We have seen right through this gimmick and are insulted. McCain's approval rating among women fell after he picked Palin.

McCain is just using her for her gender. He has proven to undestimate women. I am proud.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 1:38 AM | Report abuse

How much more specific does Obama have
to be regarding outling his plans for his presidency? I have listened to him and he is very clear about his plans. His plans are clearer than McCaine's. What else does he have to do to convince the American public that he is the right candidate? May be die his skin white.

Posted by: Capone | September 6, 2008 1:36 AM | Report abuse

I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN WHO SURVIVED IN THE TOUGH TIMES THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE PUT US ALL THROUGH.


I WILL BE PROUDER WHEN MY FELLOW AMERICANS SEE THROUGH THE GIMMICKS AND LIES OF MCCAIN AND PALIN, AND TAKE THE COUNTRY BACK FROM SELFISH, WEALTHY LOBBYISTS!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 1:35 AM | Report abuse

How much more specific does Obama have
to be regarding outling his plans for his presidency? I have listened to him and he is very clear about his plans. His plans are clearer than McCaine's. What else does he have to do to convince the American public that he is the right candidate? May be die his skin white.

Posted by: Capone | September 6, 2008 1:34 AM | Report abuse

Yes, OhNo, I was thinking the same thing. Obama was the one who says that we should try to dialogue with our enemies and McCain and the rest of his croonies critized him saying he was naive and is lacking knowledge in foreign intelligence, etc. Obama says we should set a time table to get out of Iraq and he was critized for such a statement, yet I see them adopting every single one of his ideas. Rice is meeting with Kadafi, Bush is talking about setting a time table to withdraw from Iraq; McCain is talking about change when it is Obama's slogan. All this tells me that Obama has the plans and ideas to move us forward and get us respect once again around the world. He is smart and knows how to be diplomatic with our foes and friends. He does not shoot from his hip and he is not dogmatic like Bush, McCain and Palin. He is a statesman that America will be proud to represent her.

All I see is the Republican hate machine in action. They are predujice, red necks, evangelicals that should be ashamed of themselves. They will do anything to win. Bringing Palin, the barracuda in the race is going to backfire on them. Just wait and see.

GO OBAMA 2008!!!

Posted by: capone | September 6, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

I'm absolutely shocked that this race is even close. But then again, the state of our education system has been sliding for a long time now. Truly, though, do Evangelicals and the wealthy, and war-mongers make up enough people to make it a close race? 'Cuz I just can't imagine who else would vote for someone who thinks the economy is fundamentally strong. Personally, I'm a paycheck away from the street, and I don't trust McCain or Palin to give a rip about it. It's Obama for me all the way.

Posted by: steve | September 6, 2008 1:29 AM | Report abuse

All of the indications I'm seeing are that Palin is a christian fundamentalist. I think it's important that people all across america realize this before swooning too deeply for her. We are in danger of putting in the White House a person who is a hardline christian conservative. I hope all of the moderates and independents are paying close attention here. If she somehow winds up our president, you're looking at a great big step toward a new theocratic America.

Posted by: Joe | September 6, 2008 1:04 AM | Report abuse

McCain, what a poor pick for a president. Palin, even worse for A VP pick.
Finnaly the GOP unravels, and end to their warped ideals and lousy leadership is in sight. When they lose the election, they will start fighting amongst themselves, and hopefully they will change for the better. This is no the GOP of twenty years ago. An old saying comes to mind, "there is no honesty amongst thieves" and that is what they have become. Liars and thieves.
RIP GOP....good riddance

Posted by: tom | September 6, 2008 12:59 AM | Report abuse

from a blog....
“And I believe that the success will be fairly easy” and “There's no doubt in my mind that... we will be welcomed as liberators.” [John McCain 3/24/03] “There's not a history of clashes that are violent between Sunnis and Shias. So I think they can probably get along.” [John McCain 4/23/03] “Look, we're going to send young men and women in harm's way and that's always a great danger, but I cannot believe that there is an Iraqi soldier who is going to be willing to die for Saddam Hussein, particularly since he will know that our objective is to remove Saddam Hussein from power." [John McCain 9/15/02] "But the fact is, I think we could go in with much smaller numbers than we had to do in the past. But any military man worth his salt is going to have to prepare for any contingency, but I don't believe it's going to be nearly the size and scope that it was in 1991." [John McCain 09/15/02] "He's a patriot who has the best interests of his country at heart." ]John McCain on Ahmed Chalabi, 2002] "Absolutely. Absolutely." [John McCain, asked by Chris Matthews, "you believe that the people of Iraq or at least a large number of them will treat us as liberators?" 03/12/03] I think the victory will be rapid, within about three weeks. [John McCain, MSNBC, 1/28/03] It’s clear that the end is very much in sight. … It won’t be long. It, it’ll be a fairly short period of time. [John McCain, ABC, 4/9/03] We’re either going to lose this thing or win this thing within the next several months. [Meet The Press, 11/12/06] "Well, then why was there a banner that said mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier?" [John McCain, responding to assertion by Fox News' Neil Cavuto that "many argue the conflict isn't over," [John McCain, 06/11/03] "My friends, the war will be over soon, the war for all intents and purposes although the insurgency will go on for years and years and years." [John McCain, 02/25/08]
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Posted by: Dave | September 6, 2008 12:48 AM | Report abuse

God help anyone who disagrees with Palin and works for her

Posted by: dave | September 6, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

We will not get to interview Palin. She is only interviewed by FOX and other worshippers.
REGISTER And vote absentee, and end the repression by the Tennessee Taliban before they appoint any more judges to approve their fundamentalist creationist point of view they arrived at by adding the BEGATS in GENESIS, to "prove" EARTH is a 6000 year old planet in the public schools.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 12:32 AM | Report abuse

Voting one's conscience is a right and a privilege. Gathering facts and reflecting those upon your values and principles is our obligation when selecting any candidate. I'm an American who loves the Constitution and vows to defend it both from foreign and internal influences. It's designers were skeptical that the uninformed masses would lead us astray. It's up to us to mitigate this hazard by gathering information from both candidates which we can use to answer our questions. Who will make a better America for our children? Who will ensure our energy future? Who will keep our businesses thriving? Who will protect us in an ever-threatening world? Who can lead us in a crisis? Who can represent us to the world? Our chief executive is but one branch of this inspired government. Be sure to place an equal emphasis on the other 2 when you vote. Most decisions which impact our daily lives happen in our city councils and state legislatures. We must do what you can to bring order and accountability there also. A president is certainly an empowered position of influence and we need the right person for the job. But our government problems and successes extend beyond one man's influence to the combined abilities and motives of all elected officials. Let's pick federal leaders who can apply top-down pressure and local leaders who apply bottom-up to squeeze out the unproductive and corrupt in between.

Posted by: DaveM | September 5, 2008 6:10 PM

Thanks Dave, but 50% of the public dont even vote.
Half the rest dont bother to research anything, so lies and sound bites are all they know about.
40% of registered voters did not vote in 2004.
Of the "under 26" who voted in Texas primaries, Dem 16% of the registered voters under 26 and GOP 13%.
Palins neo-con appeal may actually work. It depends on who bothers to vote.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 12:28 AM | Report abuse

Obama is running not a heartbeat away, but as the heartbeat of this country, and we are STILL waiting for the media to vet him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:45 PM

A/ I guess you dont count the right wing lies that Obama is a socialist, liberal communist terrorist.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 6, 2008 12:22 AM | Report abuse

becoming President of the Harvard Law School Review, teaching Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, working as a civil rights attorney at a law firm, serving 8 years in the State Senate of one of the most populous states in the union, being elected to the United States Senate.

Palin- got 600 votes as Mayor of Wasilla and largely spent her time trying to get books taken off the shelves of the town library. She doesn't even have a clue what is happening outside of the outback. Give us a break. She is not qualified to be President of the United States.

Posted by: Julie | September 5, 2008 7:43 PM

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Julie - Thank you for your comments. Many Republicans would like to believe Palin is smarter than Obama/Biden. Unfortunately, Republicans are desperate and it shows.

Posted by: Mary | September 5, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

Maybe McCain's selection of Palin wasn't so stupid, because stupid people like it.

Posted by: TruePatriot | September 5, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Better to be runing with 8 years behind Bush than 20 years behind racist and hate monger Black Liberation Theologist Wright.
McBush v Wrighbama

Posted by: DEM now IND | September 5, 2008 11:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama is running not a heartbeat away, but as the heartbeat of this country, and we are STILL waiting for the media to vet him.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Jay Bone says something about uneducated red-necks think they are better Americans than elite, educated, white people. Then asks doesn't everyone want to be elite and educated. That's my summary. Educated people don't call other people uneducated rednecks, idiot. And no not everyone wants to be an elite,, educated white folk. You sound like a jivee azz hunkey. Most people would just think you think your s##t doesn't stink.

Posted by: Jim | September 5, 2008 10:24 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain uses women.
Sarah Palin is a tool.

Posted by: John Quimby | September 5, 2008 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Let us not forget, she read the speech from a teleprompter and practiced for several days.

The REAL test will be when she stands in front of a group and need to answer questions without having any prep time."

IT IS NOT HAPPENING. SHE IS NOT GIVING INTERVIEWS EXCEPT TO FOX AND OTHER SELECTED WORSHIPPERS.

She is going to be a ball of fluff, with no real testing or vetting.

Posted by: Bruce Becker | September 5, 2008 10:15 PM | Report abuse

As for creationist PitBull Palin, she is very comfortable with lies since she lied about her "earmarks", she lied about the bridge to nowhere and she lied about her involvement in Troopergate. Rove, Bush, McCain, Palin are all cut from the same cloth. No way, no how, no McCain/Bush/Palin. Enough is enough!!

Posted by: jefflz | September 5, 2008 9:24 PM

She lied to us about selling the governor's plane on Ebay too. She tried three times. No one would pay what she asked.
She ended up selling it at a $600,000 loss through a broker.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Ask Kent State alumni if the National Guard is only called on and called out by the President.

Posted by: Jim | September 5, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

correcting a typo

Some Christians think the USA is a Christian country and they have the DUTY to set US all straight.
They use an out of date bible in which they have complete faith, even though it is proved to be faked. The basis of the New Testament is a pack of lies. www.pocm.info.
However, since they are going on faith, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO THINK ABOUT THE NEW PROOFS that the new testament was faked.
Similarly, we do not get to interview Palin. She is kept in private and only interviewed by FOX and other worshippers.
REGISTER And vote absentee, and end the repression by the Tennessee Taliban before they appoint any more judges.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:09 PM | Report abuse


I really, really wish that our Christian friends could try to remember that not all Americans share the same faith. Some of us even choose to have no religious affiliation at all. Our government is supposed to protect us all, my rights end where yours begin and visa versa. My opposition to the GOP is not McCain at all, but Palin and the far right she represents. I do not want my government deciding private matters for me like what books I can read. Please reconsider trying to force people to live like you, if it is "the right" way, then why can't you trust that people will find it on thier own
?

Posted by: MPLs Hostess | September 5, 2008 9:29 PM

You dont get it. They are Christians and they think the USA is a Christian country and they have the DUTY to set up all straight.
They use an out of date bible in which they have complete faith, even though it is proved to be faked. The basis of the New Testament is a pack of lies. www.pocm.info.
However, since they are going on faith, THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO THINK ABOUT THE NEW PROOFS that the new testament was faked.
Similarly, we do not get to interview Palin. She is kept in private and only interviewed by FOX and other worshippers.
REGISTER And vote absentee, and end the repression by the Tennessee Taliban before they appoint any more judges.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight, my choice is a Governor or a crackhead with no experience. That's a tuff one, now let me see....just checked and the only place doing crack is a necessary qualification for the Presidency and not a felony is the democratic party..
I'll go with the crackhead, when stoned Obama can't do too much damage.

Posted by: starryperdun | September 5, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Lori, I take issue with the assumption that I haven't "read my history" just because I don't agree with you.

Feel free to share a seat at the table but don't tell the rest of us to sit outside!

Posted by: MPLS gal | September 5, 2008 9:50 PM | Report abuse

True Christians offer liberty to all, I will never and could never force anyone to beilieve in Jesus Christ as their Savior. That has to come from a willingness in someone's own heart. But, if we are not careful those of you who do not want any Christians to have a voice will not have a voice of your own. READ HISTORY. Look at all the nations that were turned into Communist nations and came under a dictator. It is where we are headed with either party.

Posted by: Lori 4 Christ | September 5, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Now try this one on for size...

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 12, 1999; Page C1

John McCain was talking about his presidential ambitions when the question came.

"You had an affair during your first marriage," CNN's Bernard Shaw said to the Arizona senator. "The sitting president is being impeached for his conduct with Monica Lewinsky. Should a politician's private acts be part of public discourse?"

"Let me say that I am responsible for the breakup of my first marriage," McCain replied. "I will not discuss or talk about that any more than that. If someone wants to criticize me for that, that's fine."

OK. I'm criticizing you for it. Not because I care what you did, but because we have already set a legal standard in this country for the personal conduct of our Commander in Chief.

You were a serving Naval Officer when you, "caused the breakup of your first marriage." by screwing other women.

In my mind, this dis-qualifies you from serving as my President.

Posted by: Just Wondering | September 5, 2008 9:32 PM | Report abuse

The most powerful country in the world?
And you want to vote in a party who think
President Putin is still in Power? A right winger is not what we need in the world now.

Voting on moral issues rather than political
domestic and international concerns.

Surely this appointment is something thought up by Hollywood!

Posted by: bush-bunny | September 5, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

I really, really wish that our Christian friends could try to remember that not all Americans share the same faith. Some of us even choose to have no religious affiliation at all. Our government is supposed to protect us all, my rights end where yours begin and visa versa. My opposition to the GOP is not McCain at all, but Palin and the far right she represents. I do not want my government deciding private matters for me like what books I can read. Please reconsider trying to force people to live like you, if it is "the right" way, then why can't you trust that people will find it on thier own
?

Posted by: MPLs Hostess | September 5, 2008 9:29 PM | Report abuse

He can run from Bush but he cannot hide!! So much for the myth of the Maverick, the clean-fighting War Hero. McCain is up to his eyeballs in the muck that is being flung about by his Karl Rove handlers. And to top it all off he has now picked a woman to do his dirtiest fighting for him. What heroic behavior!! It is indeed time to remind people how corrupt McCain really is. Many younger voters do not remember the Keating Five Scandal - but John McCain was the greatest hypocrite amongst the lot. The amazing aspect of this story is that McCain was caught red-handed so his dishonesty is a matter of record. We don't need Karl Rove to fabricate a pile of lies about him again. As for creationist PitBull Palin, she is very comfortable with lies since she lied about her "earmarks", she lied about the bridge to nowhere and she lied about her involvement in Troopergate. Rove, Bush, McCain, Palin are all cut from the same cloth. No way, no how, no McCain/Bush/Palin. Enough is enough!!

Posted by: jefflz | September 5, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton had to be impeached for having extramarital sex in office and lying about it. Doesn't this standard apply to Senator McCain?

Why doesn't Senator McCain have to answer for his conduct as a Naval Officer?

"While Executive Officer and later as Squadron Commander McCain used his authority to arrange frequent flights that allowed him to carouse with subordinates and "engage in extra-marital affairs." Such behavior was a violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice rules against adultery and fraternization with subordinates.."

Quote: Robert Timburg's, "The Nightengale's Song."

I guess he wore the uniform of his country proudly right up until he took it off to "fraternize" with subordinates.

Keep the door locked Sarah.

Posted by: Just Wondering | September 5, 2008 9:17 PM | Report abuse

Ok, about the economy. Yes, it has not been well in the last few years not all 8 of Bush's tenure. But lets look at some catastrophic events that happened in the last 8 years. Compare that to Clinton's 8 years or even Reagans! Being a person who attributes everything in life to an all knowing all powerful God, I can see that my financial woes did not come from the problems with my country. In part they came from my own mistakes and handling my finances and in part they came from my husband realizing that God had called him to be a preacher of His Word. God has been in control the entire time. Katrina came from our all knowing all powerful God( and by the way I had friends who were adversely affected by Katrina) but we realize God has a plan and until this country can realize that HE is God and and the only God and turn our hearts back to HIM. Life in this USA will not get better. Christians ( true ones) stand up and fight for this country to turn back to God it is our only hope not Obama and Not McCain! Vote your the way God would have you vote.

and by the way those that have mocked my Lord Jesus by calling him a "community organizer" need to read the Bible. Jesus came for one reason only to live a sinless, perfect life to be the ransom for your soul and mine. He gave a nation a chance to accept him as their messiah and when they rejected hime and crucified him the have regretted it ever since. He really was born so he could die for us and shed his perfect sinless blood so you and I can approach a HOLY God and have that precious blood covering our sinful hearts.

Repent America and turn Back to the God of our forefathers!

Posted by: Lori 4 Christ | September 5, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Someone please tell me the majority of these comments were written by twelve year olds.

Posted by: This is just sad | September 5, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Patriotism without education can be dangerous

Posted by: Betsy | September 5, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

I used to be smart. Now I'm dumb. I watched these repupiclicans for so long they have destroyed by small brain. Now I juss wanna go to war, anywhere, anytiime, but I'd sure rather be a war profarter and make them big bucks. But, wow, Pilapin sure is a looker and I sure like to be in her locker!

Posted by: mcp | September 5, 2008 9:05 PM | Report abuse

There were thousand of individuals impressed by Gov,Palin speech on Wednesday.

Let us not forget, she read the speech from a teleprompter and practiced for several days.

The REAL test will be when she stands in front of a group and need to answer questions without having any prep time.

That will be the TRUE test but of course she will be well guarded by the campaign management and they will not let her out of thier sight.

She will even be coached for her debate with Senator Biden.

Again, the REAL test to see how well she does under pressure is to place her in front of News Media and let them fire questions at her.

Posted by: Ed | September 5, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Why are McCain's four healthy sons in this
country and not fighting the good fight for
freedom and democracy in Iraq and Afganistan? ??? Is this not their country,
these sons of wealth and privilege???

Posted by: AliceRopchan | September 5, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm not saying I'm for McCain or against McCain. I'm not saying I'm for Obama either. I'm not saying anything like that.

What I am saying is given the choice between a cheeseburger and pizza, I'll take the cheeseburger because all I've eaten all week is pizza and I'm really getting tired of it. I don't know why everyone keeps giving me pizza. It's getting on my nerves.


Posted by: Tor Grogan | September 5, 2008 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Hi Average Joe-
Actually, the Star Tribune had a report of Delegates ditching the Excel center to go see Ron Paul's event "because it was more exciting".

Posted by: MPLs Hostess | September 5, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

There is supposed to be a "liberal bias" in the media, then explain why pundits gush over Palin on-air then disparage her when they think they aren't on air?

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentary/27884104.html?elr=KArksi8cyaiUjc8LDyiUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Palin, like all of the players, deserves intense scruitiny. She has had a free ride because she is a woman.

Posted by: MPLs Hostess | September 5, 2008 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Months of false talking points about disenfranchised Clinton supporters proved to be completely substance-less

On the other hand when McCain was making his speech to 3500 cheerleaders less than a mile away Ron Paul got 14000 energized people. Curiously not a single peep from the media about it?

Posted by: Average joe | September 5, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Come on!! These people could not run a McDonalds, Reps/Dems were bought and paid for a long time ago by Wall St, Madison Ave, K St. You have no real power, they tell you who to vote for, dont you see that you cannot have ANY dessenting opinions, anywhere or you will pay. The fat cats run and own this country, they hold the real power, they only need you to wash their clothes, mow their lawns and watch their children, the only control you have is how you want to die not when, because even then they'l you when.

Posted by: The truth will set you free | September 5, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama was a community organizer before going to Law School, becoming President of the Harvard Law School Review, teaching Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, working as a civil rights attorney at a law firm, serving 8 years in the State Senate of one of the most populous states in the union, being elected to the United States Senate.

Palin- got 600 votes as Mayor of Wasilla and largely spent her time trying to get books taken off the shelves of the town library. She doesn't even have a clue what is happening outside of the outback. Give us a break. She is not qualified to be President of the United States.

Posted by: Julie | September 5, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Does everyone know that the press is biased? If you are counting on reporters to give you straight facts so you can make an informed decision, you will be lead astray. Reporters have become editorialists without the cartoons - twisting your arms to their views without explaining that they are injecting their opinions. They are overwhelmingly slanted to the liberal agenda and, it appears, will do anything or say anything to bring that agenda to pass. Be wise and search resources. Look for facts such as past performance, voting records, affiliations, and hints of character. We all need to rise above the deception and pursue truth.

Posted by: DaveM | September 5, 2008 7:42 PM | Report abuse

"I love Palin. I am a democrat that is so proud of my country for putting a woman on a ticket. The dems missed their opportunity and I'm not going to be told I better vote dem. because I'm a pro-choice woman. Go Sarah!"

*shakes and sputters* Your Irony and pure "what?-ness* of you comments gave me a small seizure.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Ooops! I forgot one question for Ms. Palin: Since you are a bridge expert, will you oppose funding for the bridge over the River Kwai?

Posted by: Miguel | September 5, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Kathy siad:
Hillary has a gun to her head by act like she supports Obama.

What do I support? I support a man like McCain who loves this country and was willing to die for it, unlike Obama who couldn't even walk out of a church that spewed anti-american hatred. Think he would have stayed in that box in Vietnam? No way. He's a joke. Palin is VP not Pres. Let's talk Pres. Let's talk character, let's talk reform. Obama has no record of reform. Zero. Couldn't show character by defending this country. Wouldn't wear the flag pin until he was taunted to do so. And he didn't want my vote. Hillary's supporters are something to be dismissed. If he wanted my vote he would have picked Hillary. McCain is more moderate than Obama. Obama is liberal. I can't afford the guy either.

I love Palin. I am a democrat that is so proud of my country for putting a woman on a ticket. The dems missed their opportunity and I'm not going to be told I better vote dem. because I'm a pro-choice woman. Go Sarah!

Posted by: Kathy | September 5, 2008 7:28 PM
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wow
Palin............
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska

Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution

Tried to get books banned at the local library

Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty

Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it

Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500

Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)

Doesn’t believe in Global Warming

Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year!

Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She supported it and only killed it after the funding was cut anyhow)

Wants to ban stem cell research

Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”is a task from God.”

Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)

And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child

Any thoughts on that?
Any thoughts on NOT i repeat NOT seeing equal pay for women?
AGAIN what POLICIES of McCains do you support?
POLICIES?
POLICIES?
Anything other than the bumper sticker being used to convince the public he isnt a third Bush term?

If you can get behind the policy list above then you are lost indeed, or more to the point youy are not truly a democrat and probably never were.
I DO NOT want to insult you. I respect your diffucult decision

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I have some vetting questions for Sarahcuda to reassure myself of her foreign policy capabilities:
Where is Kyrgistan? And is Rio a city or a river? Is it true you went to Kuwait hoping to hunt camels? One final question on domestic policy: will you go hunting with Dick Cheney?

Posted by: Miguel | September 5, 2008 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Barack Obama was a community organizer before going to Law School, becoming President of the Harvard Law School, teaching Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, working as a civil rights attorney at a law firm, serving 8 years in the State Senate of one of the most populous states in the union, being elected to the United States Senate.

Palin- got 600 votes as Mayor of Wasilla and largely spent her time trying to get books taken off the shelves of the town library. She doesn't even have a clue what is happening outside of the outback. Give us a break. She is not qualified to be President of the United States.

Posted by: Julie | September 5, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain became the puppet of the right. If he wins he will go to washington and Palin, on inaguaration night will grab his sack with her left hand and his respirator with the right and whisper in his ear,

look old man you will do what i say or il pull the plug.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Kathy, you are an idiot aren't you?

"I'ma goin' go vote for McCain cause he has a woman"

So you vote simply on the fact she's got a hole between her legs?

Strap on your biker boots and beat that bat into your head some more, it's obvious you don't care much about actual facts.

Posted by: Anon | September 5, 2008 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Hillary has a gun to her head by act like she supports Obama.

What do I support? I support a man like McCain who loves this country and was willing to die for it, unlike Obama who couldn't even walk out of a church that spewed anti-american hatred. Think he would have stayed in that box in Vietnam? No way. He's a joke. Palin is VP not Pres. Let's talk Pres. Let's talk character, let's talk reform. Obama has no record of reform. Zero. Couldn't show character by defending this country. Wouldn't wear the flag pin until he was taunted to do so. And he didn't want my vote. Hillary's supporters are something to be dismissed. If he wanted my vote he would have picked Hillary. McCain is more moderate than Obama. Obama is liberal. I can't afford the guy either.

I love Palin. I am a democrat that is so proud of my country for putting a woman on a ticket. The dems missed their opportunity and I'm not going to be told I better vote dem. because I'm a pro-choice woman. Go Sarah!

Posted by: Kathy | September 5, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

"Put it on Ebay."

Just another shill. She put it on Ebay alright, but no takers. She ended up selling the outdated aircraft to a campaign backer at a loss. In other words, she was trying to be misleading.

The "bridge to nowhere" is the same type of Palin double talk, She was for it when she was running for governess, but after elected and all the talk broke in Washington, she simply took the money and spent it for something else.

Posted by: Alexis. | September 5, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

"Put it on Ebay."

Just another shill. She put it on Ebay alright, but no takers. She ended up selling the outdated aircraft to a campaign backer at a loss. In other words, she was trying to be misleading.

The "bridge to nowhere" is the same type of Palin double talk, She was for it when she was running for governess, but after elected and all the talk broke in Washington, she simply took the money and spent it for something else.

Posted by: Alexis. | September 5, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

It's like watching a bunch of kids fighting at a lunch table, whatever various belief any of you hold is covered well by the amount of bickering and quite simply crying over this and that.

I love me some American populous.

Keep it up, going for the bottom or (or is it and?) going for broke.

Posted by: Anon | September 5, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

All these candidates put their pants on one leg at a time just like I do. I respect them all for their willingness to carry this tremendous burden. I don't have that kind of drive. How about you? It's easy to criticize others especially with petty attacks. Facts are more difficult to gather, but if you want to make a difference - to inspire others to your side - then pursue a well-defined point of view. In the process, you may learn something about yourself.

Posted by: DaveM | September 5, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

wawawah--Barry was a community organizer--we need to respect that work. Oh boy! There's a qualification for president!! Obama is laughing himself to sleep at night thinking he might just be elected! 2 books, no significant laws, no reform, no show of character--like standing up for his country in his racist, unpatriotic church. That was above his pay grade.

I think if Palin's daugher is on the table we need to dig into Barry's drug use. When? What? How often? Did he deal? The media sure won't do it. Took them a year to reveall Wright.

McCain walks the walk--Obama just talks the talk.

Posted by: Sheri | September 5, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a good man and would've made an honest president if this country had a viable third, centrist party. Instead, we have the machine that is the GOP, that is so far to the right and Anti-Semitic that it would never allow Joe Lieberman the VP slot. Palin is Big Oil, pretending to be a reformer while laying down new pipeline and pushing for drilling in ANWAR for 6 months worth of oil. I saw this GOP charade here in the Twin Cities; the rest of the country has no idea the spin put on this event. It has been propped up to look bigger than it was. Pundits glow about Palin on air but bash her when they think the camera if off, just to avoid looking like the "liberal media". Why can the media call it like it sees it? Who is propping up this charade?

Posted by: MPLs Hostess | September 5, 2008 7:20 PM | Report abuse

All those pundits saying Hillary supporters won't vote for McCain now that he has Palin, are wrong. I'm a pro choice woman and this election is about more than abortion. Breaking the glass ceiling is breaking it and it's hypocritical for me to say it can only be broken by a woman who is a democrat. Unlike Obama, Palin is proud of her country and she makes me proud to be a woman. Obama dissed Hillary, took her supporters for granted and I'm going to take great pleasure in not voting for in November! The fraud needs to be taught a lesson.

Hillary voter now Palin voter in Florida.

Posted by: Kathy | September 5, 2008 7:10 PM
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Kathy i know how you feel...
But let me ask you a legit question what policies of McCains do you support? Does Hillary's opinion hold any weight for you?

Hillary comments from today...
To slightly amend my comments from Denver," the former first lady said in a statement as soon as the Republican nominee finished his speech.

"No way, No How, No McCain-Palin," Clinton said, reprising her top applause line from last week's Democratic convention.

Clinton said that only Barack Obama, who beat her in the bitter Democratic primary and his running mate Senator Joseph Biden, "offered the new ideas and positive change" that America needed.

"After listening to all of the speeches this week, I heard nothing that suggests the Republicans are ready to fix the economy for middle class families," Clinton said.

She also commented that McCain offered no plan for quality affordable health care for all Americans, to guarantee equal pay for equal work for women, or to "restore our nation's leadership in a complex world or tackle the myriad of challenges our country faces."
Copyright © 2008 AFP.
I want a woman in office as well, and have wanted one since the Dem party offered one 20+ years ago before the Repubs even considered such a thing. But ANY woman doesnt the right woman make. Hillary would have made an excellent president. Palin will make an excellent ideoligical nightmare...some of her positions...
Raised taxes as the Gov. of Alaska

Wants to teach creationism in Science Class, subverting the US Constitution

Tried to get books banned at the local library

Fired her entire staff 10 days into term as mayor, for lack of loyalty

Used every available lever to get an enemy fired from his job, and is still lying about it

Put a gag order on her administration as mayor of a town of 6500

Milked the Federal Government for huge series of earmarks, by using lobbyists. The highest per capita earmarker in the nation: Palin (27 Million for a town of 6500)

Doesn’t believe in Global Warming

Used Alaska First as her campaign slogan, which is the same one as her husband’s old party, the AIP, a secessionist organization she recorded a supportive piece for this year!

Misled America about the Bridge to Nowhere, in her first national speech (She supported it and only killed it after the funding was cut anyhow)

Wants to ban stem cell research

Is on the record stating the Iraq war ”is a task from God.”

Left her town Mayoralty with a huge debt, having outspent all around in her (21 MILION in debt)

And, perhaps worst of all, Palin would insist that my 14 daughter carry and birth a rapist’s child

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

It's funny to watch you all compare Obama and Palin..he's running for Pres. yet you have to justify him against the VP who arguably has less experience than McCain because he lacks McCain's experience and character.Try comparing apples to apples--Obama's experience vs McCain's. I'll take a genuine american mom over the corrupt chicago politician, do nothing, like Obama who didn't defend his country for 20 years in his anti-american church. You can't doubt she loves america.

Voting republican for the first time ever! and no, I'm not some GOP set-up. Real voter here!

Posted by: Kathy | September 5, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

All those pundits saying Hillary supporters won't vote for McCain now that he has Palin, are wrong. I'm a pro choice woman and this election is about more than abortion. Breaking the glass ceiling is breaking it and it's hypocritical for me to say it can only be broken by a woman who is a democrat. Unlike Obama, Palin is proud of her country and she makes me proud to be a woman. Obama dissed Hillary, took her supporters for granted and I'm going to take great pleasure in not voting for in November! The fraud needs to be taught a lesson.

Hillary voter now Palin voter in Florida.

Posted by: Kathy | September 5, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is tom and i'm a moron

Posted by: tom | September 5, 2008 7:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain's healthcare plan requires people with existing issues to find new coverage if they can, at all, at any price. That's the opposite of your wish list above.

Posted by: bruce Becker | September 5, 2008 6:55 PM

pure genius

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 7:03 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is Cool Maan and i'm a moron

Posted by: Cool Maan | September 5, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Give us jobs and self respect and let us have the power of making decisions
about our health insurance and our schools, etc., etc. and not some political
dictator.
Posted by: trueblueamerican | September 5, 2008 6:27 PM

McCain's healthcare plan requires people with existing issues to find new coverage if they can, at all, at any price. That's the opposite of your wish list above.

Posted by: bruce Becker | September 5, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin tried to censor the local library when she was mayor.

Given enough authority and she'd make Hitler seem like a choir boy.

She already wants to set the schools back to 1927 with her Tennessee Taliban Snopes trial of science. She doesnt see that her beliefs should be private.
Making her beliefs public policy is why her daughter's pregnancy is public gossip.
Palin is against contraceptives for YOU, ME and the rest of US.
She is not happy with getting pregnant at age 42 and having her Down's syndrome child, she insists on making her personal belief public policy.
Stop her before she is appointing federal judges based on her litmus tests.
Stop McCain now. He admits he will use HER litmus tests to select the 100's of federal judges a president selects as well as high level commissions which set public health policy.
Enough. Stop the Tennessee Taliban. Enough

Posted by: bruce Becker | September 5, 2008 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Im an independent and I'm now voting McCain. The dems are scared out of their mind about Palin.

1. First they attack her and her daughter- it back fires. Her daughters boyfriend is a hunk stepping up to the plate with marriage. They are a good looking couple and getting HUGE press in pop culture press
2. Then they smear her with false accusations she cut the Special Needs budget in Alaska- it backfires- the cuts were made by the previous governor- she increased the SN budget +160%
3. The try to play up "Troopergate" the idiot Trooper is convicted of tasering a 10 yr old and driving a patrol car while drunk.
4. Now they are going to try to ignore her and sic the testosterone filled woman liberals to attack her. My bet is she will outshine them all.

The Dems made two mistakes- 1) They DID NOT put Hilaary at the top of the ticket. 2) They DID NOT put Hillary at the bottom of the ticket. Poor Hillary. The first woman President of the US will be Palin after McCain's term(s).

Posted by: tom | September 5, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

McCain loses in every state except Alaska now.......

Dasturdly Dick Cheney strikes again!
http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341
"She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The state party leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated them."

Posted by: Tad in Arizona | September 5, 2008 6:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama is the most ambitious politician that I've ever known. Unfortunately, a lot of americans have fallen under his spell. He's such a great speaker but really has no definite plan. I would vote for McCain who is sincere in helping his country rather than be led blindly by an ambitious charming leader.
McCain is not Bush. Obama uses that because he has no much against McCain.
Obama is also overconfident and arrogant.
I can't wait and see how we are going to the dogs if he becomes the president of america.

Posted by: Cool Maan | September 5, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is gloryusa and i'm a moron

Posted by: gloryusa | September 5, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin rocks in '08! John McCain is a genius! Come join the party! God Bless you all!

Posted by: gloryusa | September 5, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Hi my name is Rex and i am a moron and i like to run

Posted by: Rex | September 5, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse


Why all the concern about experience when it comes to a presidential candidate?
Is it better to have a politician with much experience but is corrupt, and that
believes in pork barrel philosophy and screwing the people and building more
expensive big government programs for the sake of promoting despotism, or a
candidte that will balance the budget, give power back to the people and cut the
bureaucracy of big government dictators and surrounding themselves with a good
knowledgable staff, to take our country in the right direction?
I am one American citizen that is sick of both Republican and Democrats (like
Stevens and Reid for example), that have no problem causing our country to have
massive debt.
Give us jobs and self respect and let us have the power of making decisions
about our health insurance and our schools, etc., etc. and not some political
dictator.

Posted by: trueblueamerican | September 5, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Hi Kathleen, my name is Rex and I'm a moron to. I like too run to.

Posted by: Rex | September 5, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Nalini- I am impressed that Palin uses index cards for her speeches. They are a Green alternative to devices powered by mercury-filled batteries (you know, the kind which require power produced by nuclear plants or CO2-generating coal-fired plants).

Further, you assert that Palin couldn't relate to Americans because she comes from a state outside the Lower 48. WTF? Obama grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia- does that make him unable to relate to Americans as well?

Maybe you're just a hater.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Heres a list of the recent lies I have led Republicans believe to be true:

http://citizenchris.typepad.com/citizenchris/2008/09/sarah-palins-li.html

Posted by: Sarah Palin | September 5, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a disaster only less than two years in office and all this.

did not want earmarks but asked for them

was for the bridge before she was against it

Abuse of power

cant control her family

hired a lobbyist to bring earmarks

sold the jet on ebay but actually didnt, lost half million dollars on the sale.

What else is out there?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Voting one's conscience is a right and a privilege. Gathering facts and reflecting those upon your values and principles is our obligation when selecting any candidate. I'm an American who loves the Constitution and vows to defend it both from foreign and internal influences. It's designers were skeptical that the uninformed masses would lead us astray. It's up to us to mitigate this hazard by gathering information from both candidates which we can use to answer our questions. Who will make a better America for our children? Who will ensure our energy future? Who will keep our businesses thriving? Who will protect us in an ever-threatening world? Who can lead us in a crisis? Who can represent us to the world? Our chief executive is but one branch of this inspired government. Be sure to place an equal emphasis on the other 2 when you vote. Most decisions which impact our daily lives happen in our city councils and state legislatures. We must do what you can to bring order and accountability there also. A president is certainly an empowered position of influence and we need the right person for the job. But our government problems and successes extend beyond one man's influence to the combined abilities and motives of all elected officials. Let's pick federal leaders who can apply top-down pressure and local leaders who apply bottom-up to squeeze out the unproductive and corrupt in between.

Posted by: DaveM | September 5, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain: “Change is coming.”
Change back to the days of back-alley abortions and incest babies.

Posted by: McBain | September 5, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is Kathleen, i like to run and i am a moron

Posted by: Kathleen | September 5, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Why won't Palin do any interviews? What is she hiding? Her secessionist past? Her Jew-hating preacher?

Posted by: McBain | September 5, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Paulsen for President in 2008.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

. “Let me just offer an advance warning to the old big-spending, do-nothing, me-first, country-second crowd,” Mr. McCain said. “Change is coming.”

John McCain 9/4/2008

Yeah Mr. McCain this is your crowd remember, no, may you don't.

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Hi my name is AC/Texas, I'm from Texas, and I am a moron

Posted by: AC/Texas | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

. “Let me just offer an advance warning to the old big-spending, do-nothing, me-first, country-second crowd,” Mr. McCain said. “Change is coming.”

John McCain 9/4/2008

Yeah Mr. McCain this is your crowd remember, no, may you don't.

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I think Sarah Palin is terrific!! she and McCain have the Dems on the run and I love it!

Posted by: Kathleen | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I think Sarah Palin is terrific!! she and McCain have the Dems on the run and I love it!

Posted by: Kathleen | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Paulsen for President in 2008.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Obie said "Woody"

Posted by: Beavis | September 5, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

I saw Palin and McCain on the road. I was surprised to see she uses index cards for her speeches. Wow, are Republicans that stupid? She was the mayor of a town outside the mainland of the U.S.! How can she relate to the rest of the country?

Some of the people posting here are brainless by the way. Just because Obama is black, you are going to vote for a relic and ms. beauty queen. what a joke.

Posted by: Nalini | September 5, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama cannot say a full sentence without saying "George Bush" as a negative remark and if he isn't using Bush he is using MCCain as a negative remark. I am so tired of listening to Obama talk this way. You know there are Americans who love George Bush and his family and yes, I am a Texan.

Posted by: AC/Texas | September 5, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

"The neocons are back to their game plan, this is how they won in '00 and '04 besides fraud."

You forgot rigging the voting machines and interupt voter turnout in democratic ridings.

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse


We are all blessed to live in such interesting times. The history being made is ours.

Posted by: reason | September 5, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

The neocons are back to their game plan, this is how they won in '00 and '04 besides fraud.

the neocon plan.

1. The democrats are evil

for the middle ages

2. We cut taxes

Only for the rich and large corporations

3. We are for small government.

Unless we dont want you to do it.

4. We are the values party

As long your values are the same as mine

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

The problem with the Palin pick for McCain is she alienates as many votes as she gains. when some voters hear her absolutist beliefs she comes across as a little scary like much of the religious right.

GOP stop with the fantasy that you will get Clinton votes. Palin and Clinton are polar opposites on every discernible issue. This is no different from believing you would gain AA support by nominating Clarence Thomas (the most hated man in the AA community).

Posted by: case | September 5, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

No the republicans definatly have more fiction,remember the WMDs in Iraq,and Georgy saying Im gonna get Osama,He even thinks he's a Texan!NOT

Posted by: Oh_No | September 5, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I've been watching the sky for lightning as the end must be near, the Messiah, the second coming, Barak Hussain Obama was bested by a woman...heaven forbid..Nielson MUST BE WRONG I want a recount...OMG

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I don't get why this is so surprising? I watched Palin's speech, although I don't like her as a VP candidate at all. Even so, it was still a great moment for the whole nation, and one day I want to tell my grandkids that I saw it happen. Same goes for Obama's speech.

Maybe you're confusing Obama's high ratings for some kind of Messiah complex on the part of democrats, when really they just like what he says and what he stands for. It's kind of like how a lot of republicans can't stop gushing about Palin right now. That's what people do when they find a candidate they like.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse


The reason so many people watched the republican convention is because most people prefer fiction

if most people preferred fiction, then the DNC would have definitely gotten more views.

Posted by: ... | September 5, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it utteringly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is comming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongoring, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb through the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe Mccarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 5:09 PM | Report abuse

The reason so many people watched the republican convention is because most people prefer fiction.

Posted by: Oh-No | September 5, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Flash_Flash- Flash - The votes are in.

I've been watching the sky for lightning as the end must be near, the Messiah, the second coming, Barak Hussain Obama was bested by a woman...heaven forbid..Nielson MUST BE WRONG I want a recount...OMG

Sarah Palin - 40.2 Million
John McCain - 38.9 Million
Barak Hussain Obama - 38.3 Million
Joe Biden - 8749


Posted by: starryperdun | September 5, 2008 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Bad news,when the Bush admin.decided to extend soldiers terms of enlistments without their approval that ended the all volunteer label of the military,like it or not!

Posted by: Oh-No | September 5, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Just because I like dogs with big jowls, doesn't mean I'm going to vote for John McCain.

Of course, if he replaces Sarah Palin with a basset hound, he's got my vote!

Posted by: Gordon McFarple | September 5, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm saying don't compare that and abortion because all servicemembers have a choice whether to serve their country or not.

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I'd be happy to concede that military service is a totally different ballgame. I agree that you understand the risks when you sign up. It's a dangerous job, and it's also an all volunteer force.

It's a different story for the civilians who go on the books as collateral damage, though, or who are killed by the general melee that results from turning their homeland into a battlefield. They didn't sign up for anything.

I'm not really trying to point the finger at anybody. I think most Americans are oblivious to the number of deaths we've caused in Iraq, maybe because it's just too hard to deal with, and there's nothing we can do about it as individuals. That's understandable. It just rubs me the wrong way a little when folks say they're all about the sanctity of life at the very same time. Of course they're not all about the sanctity of life. Not unless the life of an unborn baby is really just worth that much more than an Iraqi man, woman, or child. Anybody who thinks it is has no business preaching about morality.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

61,0000 jobs lost

the Transportation fund is depleted

Foreclosures hit all time high again

Exxon mobil made more money than ever

This is what the neocon gave you, i dont care i did not vote for thesr sphinters.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Right to life?Maybe you should talk about right to life to all the soldiers that have died in Iraq.And all their family members.

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Well... they had a choice. They signed up. They wanted to fight for their country instead of just sitting on the couch like most of the people in this country. They knew that there was a risk. Being military myself, I took that risk when I enlisted. So please don't compare the two.

Posted by: huh | September 5, 2008 4:26 PM

When they signed up as you did, thank you, they thought their leaders would not lead them astray, unfortunately he did and they died, and Iraq is still hell on earth, i cant even imagine what is like to live there thank to bush, Saddam was no threat and if he was he wasnt worth it, the neocons wanted to fight a war for oil and they died and they will keep on dying if you elect Mcsame.

MCCAIN MORE OF THE SAME!!!!

Posted by: OTOT | September 5, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

One thing I can tell you,when your under fire,is your not fighting for your Country!!Your fight to keep yourself and your buddies alive.Old glory is not on your mind at all!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Oh-No | September 5, 2008 4:39 PM | Report abuse

my name is huh and i'm a moron. huh?

Posted by: huh | September 5, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

True religion is the life we lead, not the creed we profess

Posted by: Louis Nizer | September 5, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

If you think it's all right to invade and kill people of other countries just because you don't like the way they do things, then guess what?

Don't complain when the same thing happens to you.

Spoken from a true Canadian, nobody likes America after that Republican convention!!

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Yes but they were misled and/ or stupid. you cant fault stupid
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you must be john kerry in disguise...

Posted by: huh | September 5, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Maybe when they signed up,the President had'nt lied to us yet about WMDs being there Huh?And yes those soldiers have as much right to life as anyone!

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yeah cause the president totally led us into the war thinking it was going to be a big "jk" moment. Yeah you're real smart. And I'm not saying that they don't have a right to life. I'm saying don't compare that and abortion because all servicemembers have a choice whether to serve their country or not.

Posted by: huh | September 5, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Well... they had a choice. They signed up. They wanted to fight for their country instead of just sitting on the couch like most of the people in this country. They knew that there was a risk. Being military myself, I took that risk when I enlisted. So please don't compare the two.

Posted by: huh | September 5, 2008 4:26 PM


Yes but they were misled and/ or stupid. you cant fault stupid

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Maybe when they signed up,the President had'nt lied to us yet about WMDs being there Huh?And yes those soldiers have as much right to life as anyone!

Posted by: Oh-No | September 5, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"Well... they had a choice. They signed up."

I guess all those carpet bombed civilians just wanted to commit mass suicide!!

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Top 5 reasons to not vote for McCain and Republicans.

1) They are going to repeat the “Bush” disaster. No matter how much they try to distance themselves from Bush, McCain and the Republicans will carry on with the same agenda and tactics. McCain voted with Bush 95% of the time and have you noticed that creeps and crooks like Karl Rove and Tom Delay are reemerging within the party?

2) Economy in shambles, Tax cuts misplaced: By almost every measure, the economy is in much worse shape than it was when Bush took office, No one can deny this. And the very tax cuts for the rich that have failed to work are once again being touted by McCain. Tax cuts should be given to the middle class because the money will be spent and the economy will be benefit as a result. Rich people have so much money to begin with, giving them more will not move the consumption needle.

3) They don’t honor our troops, they abuse them. A few examples:
• They sent our troops to war in Iraq based on lies and fabricated evidence. Thousands of brave men and women have been killed or seriously wounded needlessly. Our moral standing in the world is greatly diminished.
• They lied and tried to portray Tillman’s death as heroic when it was friendly fire.
• They blamed the Abu Ghraib prison debacle on a few low level soldiers when as we now know Rumsfeld and the upper brass ordered and condoned it. Instead of taking responsibility, these cowards sent many of the soldiers that followed their orders to jail.
• The tough talking Bush, Cheney and Giuliani’s’ of the world ran like cowards during the Vietnam War using preferential draft deferments and connections to enlist in the safe haven of the National Guard.
• Severely wounded returning troops were put up in rat and mold infested hospital rooms, the armed services refuse to acknowledge and treat vets with psychological problems.

4) McCain’s judgment is poor. He voted for the Iraq war, he does not want to set timeline for withdrawal, even as the Iraq government is asking for one. He chose a very green and inexperienced running mate, Sarah Palin. By some estimates she has a 40% chance of assuming the presidency given McCain’s age and his health history. Does anyone seriously think she is prepared to serve as commander in chief?

5) They are going to continue to screw the average American, under the guise of giving people more freedom. For example, they will:
• Offer $5,000 health care credits which will eventually relieve employers of paying for any health care benefits. And note that this is a credit, so one will need to pay at least $5,000 in taxes to get it. For millions more, it will mean less or no health coverage.
• Replace social security by borrowing $5 trillion (yes trillion) dollars from the likes of China, and on behalf of the taxpayer, to create Private Savings accounts on Wall Street. These accounts will be established by the same investment banks that brought us the mortgage crisis and that pay their fired CEO’s millions in severance pay. I can hear them licking their chops now, just imagine the fees they’ll rake in! No wonder they are ones pushing this plan.

Posted by: john | September 5, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Right to life?Maybe you should talk about right to life to all the soldiers that have died in Iraq.And all their family members.

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Well... they had a choice. They signed up. They wanted to fight for their country instead of just sitting on the couch like most of the people in this country. They knew that there was a risk. Being military myself, I took that risk when I enlisted. So please don't compare the two.

Posted by: huh | September 5, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Right to life?Maybe you should talk about right to life to all the soldiers that have died in Iraq.And all their family members.

Posted by: Oh-No | September 5, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Silly person. Once you're born, your right to life is reduced dramatically. By age 16, it has practically disappeared. Also, your right to life is diminished greatly if you happen to be a citizen of a country we need to bomb. The culture of life is a strictly domestic proposition. When it comes to the lives of foreign citizens, we just could not care any less.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 4:18 PM


Of course you can make an argument that this includes lives of poor Americans, disabled Americans, disabled Veterans, Minority Americans, American women and not just foreigners. Republicans only value the lives of Republican voters and then only at the polls. Once the election is over all is fair game.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I wonder why Bush is following Obama's policies. Obama isn't president, yet.

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Do you Rep have any idea how carpet bombing is performed? Legs and feet and heads and you don't know who's they belong to. It makes abortion look like a walk in the park.

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Silly person. Once you're born, your right to life is reduced dramatically. By age 16, it has practically disappeared. Also, your right to life is diminished greatly if you happen to be a citizen of a country we need to bomb. The culture of life is a strictly domestic proposition. When it comes to the lives of foreign citizens, we just could not care any less.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I find it very funny after Obama said he would sit down and have dialog with most of the Countries that we have had problems with,he was condemned by the Bush/McCain people.Well guess where Condolezza Rice is?she's in Libya talking to Moammar Gadhafi..

Posted by: Oh-No | September 5, 2008 4:15 PM


pure genius

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Palin comes across as an uneducated hick. Its no wonder so many Republicans are impressed with her.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:14 PM

pure genius

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

I find it very funny after Obama said he would sit down and have dialog with most of the Countries that we have had problems with,he was condemned by the Bush/McCain people.Well guess where Condolezza Rice is?she's in Libya talking to Moammar Gadhafi..

Posted by: Oh-No | September 5, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

38.9 million U.S. TV viewers watched John McCain accept the Republican nomination for president on Thursday, slightly more than the 38.3 million people who tuned in for Barack Obama's speech. Republican's shouldn't get excited because half of the Democratics are still using intennas for reception, thus they can't be tracked.

Posted by: Buckeyes all the way | September 5, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Palin comes across as an uneducated hick. Its no wonder so many Republicans are impressed with her.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

'Cause I got Palin fever
(Palin fever)
It's driving me crazy
(Driving me crazy)
I got Palin Fever
(Palin Fever)
I'm going out of my mind
(Going out of my mind)
I got Palin fever
(Palin fever)
I'm going out of my mind
(Going out of my mind)

Posted by: Craig | September 5, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I think John McCain did a great job last night because he spoke from the heart and he is what he is. No he wasn't slick or polished like his opponent but he made his points.

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I remember when everybody said this about Bush in '00. There was a lot of 'sure, he's clumsy and speaks awkwardly, but he shoots from the hip!'.

I hate to say it, but a leader needs to be an icon too if you want win people over. A lot of diplomacy is about saying the right things and looking confident when you do it. A lot of foreign policy is about diplomacy.

People give Obama a lot of flak for being extremely good at presentation, but presentation absolutely matters. Bush has been a clown for the last 8 years. McCain isn't nearly that bad, but Obama is definitely better.

I wish people would stop saying it doesn't matter. It absolutely does matter. Charisma is part of leading people, too. Maybe it shouldn't be that way, but it has been since the dawn of civilization.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Fact Check: Checking the GOP's speakers

By JIM KUHNHENN – 2 days ago

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — Republican National Convention speakers held back their harshest rhetoric against Barack Obama and Democrats on Tuesday, but some got in a lick or two that require a touch of context.

SEN. JOSEPH LIEBERMAN, I-CONN.: "When Barack Obama was voting to cut off funding for our troops on the ground, John McCain had the courage to stand against the tide of public opinion and support the surge."

THE FACTS: Lieberman's statement is true — Obama voted once, in May of last year, against money for troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. The bill, however, passed overwhelmingly. He had voted in favor of troop funding in April, but that legislation was vetoed by President Bush because it included a call to pull troops out of Iraq. Before his May vote, Obama had voted for every bill that financed the troops since he joined the Senate.

HOUSE REPUBLICAN LEADER JOHN BOEHNER, R-OHIO: "They see Congress adjourning for the summer without a vote on comprehensive energy reforms ... When (House Speaker) Nancy Pelosi sent Congress home last month without an energy vote, Republicans refused to leave."

THE FACTS: Republicans have remained in the House during Congress' regularly scheduled August recess, demanding that Pelosi call the House back into session to vote on an energy bill that includes an increase in offshore oil drilling. The show of urgency is mostly theatrical, however, since offshore drilling would increase oil production, but not for seven to 10 years. Republicans had blocked Democratic proposals to tap the nation's petroleum reserve, curb oil speculation and force oil companies to drill on already leased federal lands.

FORMER SEN. FRED THOMPSON, R-TENN.: "Now our opponents tell you not to worry about their tax increases. They tell you they are not going to tax your family. No, they're just going to tax 'businesses'! So unless you buy something from a 'business,' like groceries or clothes or gasoline, or unless you get a paycheck from a big or a small 'business,' don't worry, it's not going to affect you."

THE FACTS: Obama would raise income taxes on the wealthiest and their capital gains and dividends taxes. He would raise payroll taxes on wealthiest by applying it to the portion of income over $250,000 and he would also raise corporate taxes. Only small businesses that make more than $250,000 a year would see taxes rise. Obama would provide $80 billion in tax breaks mainly for poor workers and the elderly, including tripling the Earned Income Tax Credit for minimum-wage workers and higher credits for larger families. The Tax Policy Center, a think tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama's plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about 5 percent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain's plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle income taxpayers by 3 percent, the center concluded.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

"Do you Democrats and liberals have any idea how abortions are performed? Its barbaric! "

Do you Rep have any idea how carpet bombing is performed? Legs and feet and heads and you don't know who's they belong to. It makes abortion look like a walk in the park.
I guess little Johny or pregnant Suzi were just in the wrong place at the wronge time!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Our country and all of us have seen and felt the results of the mismanagement and the failure of the last 8 years under Bush and the Republican Ideology. We have choices to make. If you think the country had been led in the wrong direction and have been made miserable, then don't let the Republicans continue to fool you. Stop the bleeding of our blood and economy. Do you know who suffers worst when the economy turns sour? It is us and not the rich. When you have more than 7 houses, losing one doesn't hurt as much as if you have only one or none at all. The Republicans and McCain only care about themselves and take care of themselves. And you? Use your vote to show them that you are somebody and that they can't mess with you anymore. Tell them you have brains. Show them where to go, to their 7 comfortable homes and NOT to our house, the people's house, THE WHITEHOUSE. Let's show them this November that we are going to take our country and government back. No fear, or hatred, not even a morally bankrupt governor from Alaska can stop us. Enough! There has been too much cheating and lying. We won't take it anymore. The Republicans have failed us miserably. They will continue to fail. Their way has not worked. It has only brought us joblessness. It has only brought us more homelessness even as they acquire more wealth and more homes. We are losing our homes. We don't have insurance. We have lost our retirement. They want to take away social security because they don't need it. What about you? We are getting poorer, our infrastructures are failing, we have more teen pregnancies and we can't feed ourselves and families, we are more hungry while they spend 10 billion a month in Iraq. McCain says we should stay there for 100 more years. His VP says war is divine. What a sick mind. Bombing, bombing and killing as the war mongers want and started since 911 haven't worked. These don't have the intelligence and the capability to know history. Not carpet bombing, not even agent orange brought the Vietnam war to end. Yes, it was Diplomacy. Bombs couldn't do it. Remember Nixon going to China? Know your neighbor, know your enemy, but talk with them both. Show strength by dialoguing with wisdom, supported by power and not might devoid of intelligence as the last eight years have shown, four more years of the same as McCain and his shoot from the hip first before questions, his VP espouse can only lead us to further go alone as the last 8 years. What did it bring us? Loss of our moral leadership in the world and ruined economy. Well, fellow countrymen, it is not too late. We can still redeem ourselves. We can still be the America the great and beautiful. Let's get rid of the ruinous failed Republican leadership. Let's come together in November not as Republicans, Independents, Democrats, males, females, black, brown,white, Jews, Christians, Moslems etc but as Americans who love and care for our country and stop this bleeding. Let's vote for a change. Let's make a break from the last 8 years. It is our right. It is for our children and grandchildren's future. We owe them a better legacy. We will do this in November by voting for a change. Let's take our destiny in our own hands. Let's show the world and ourselves what the true America is, stands for, has always stood for and will always stand for. We are the home of the brave and the moral leader of the free world. We are the USA.

Posted by: jim page | September 5, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is gloryusa and i am a moron

Posted by: gloryusa | September 5, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

I think John McCain did a great job last night because he spoke from the heart and he is what he is. No he wasn't slick or polished like his opponent but he made his points. Look,I know how it is. We live in an entertainment society,we want to be entertained. We want to feel good about ourselves and look nice at the same time. Why do you think reality shows are so popular? Everybody either wants to be star or least have their 15 minutes of fame. And Barack Obama feeds into that. On the outside he appears to give people what they want. Bill Clinton was a master at this. Obama talks about change,but what change? I remember Bill Clinton and Al Gore echoing the same theme in 1992. How about the Democratic Party do some reforming. This past DNC convention a resolution was passed to let women to maintain the right to have abortions. Do you Democrats and liberals have any idea how abortions are performed? Its barbaric! I mean have any of you really looked into what goes on in the abortion process? I dare you to do it if you haven't. Do you think that the Lord Jesus Christ(Who is God)really approves of abortion? Think about that. The Margaret Sangers and Nancy Keenans have lied to you. How about the Democratic Party reforming from tax spending and bigger government? Obama's tax plans are very socialistic at best. I could go on and on. I mean I challenge you Democrats to look into all of this stuff and really know what and who you are voting for. Lets be real,folks.

Posted by: gloryusa | September 5, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Have you noticed John McSame has become very touchy feely around Palin.....She don't have to write a complaint, I'll do it and I'm a white male. Go Dems!!!!

Posted by: WhatEverYouRepugs | September 5, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

If Bush>McCain per 2000 election and Bush is the worst US President ever than means McCain is a potatoe?

Posted by: Dan Quayle | September 5, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

hmm... where did you get that little gem? Oh wait. Youtube oh ok. McCain is scum afterall:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

Posted by: hmm | September 5, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

So there's a comments section here where I can comment on the comments of the comments? My head hurts.

Posted by: M.C. Escher | September 5, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

basementfrog-
really? cause it looks like obama central to me.

Posted by: hmm | September 5, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain, the self professed only real American in the whole country because he crashed a plane after killing civilian on twenty-three fly bys. What a great man. Yea, right. He just can't stop talking about himself.

But when he ran against George W. even the Vets wouldn't support him because he, in truth, collaborated with the Vietnamese govt. Now, he throws his military experience out every time he opens his big angry mouth. Well here is the truth about heroics McShame.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x171237

search for : Vietnam veterans against john "songbird" mccain

Yes, McCain will make the American schools better by introducing competition, i.e., privatize them and let corporations run the schools...like the republicans did to Freddie Mac and Fannie May. Private so long as individuals can profit, but when all the money is scammed away and CEO salaries are bankrupting the schools, the tax payers will bail them out.

Besides Americans want Public schools closed so they can pay approximately $8,000 per child per year for elementry school. Don't worry the Govenment will give you a voucher...for about $1,000 per year, you pay the rest.

Add your private insurance to that since corporation will no longer help you and watch that middle class dream melt away...

Don't worry! McCain will fix it. Perhaps he will get all the corporations to give us money like Palin did in Alaska. Perhaps they could introduce a whole new type of welfare like Palin did in Alaska. Not just people in need will get money from corporations, but everyone. But lets don't put that money into a national account to cover a national healthcare program. That would be socialism...uuuooohhh...bad social causes will ruin us, that would be tax.

No, let's just have those corporations give away their money because we all deserve part of those profits they make extracting oil, poluting our environment, feeding fat food meals to our families, selling gas guzzling cars made in China (used to be made here). But whatever we do lets don't apply it to a social cause because every person knows best what to do with this free money...like buying a new gun, or more beer, or a new truck.

And hey, explain why Levi Johnston shouldn't be arrested as a pedophile. How can Palin protect the country if she can't protect her own kids from pedophiles?

This is his second child; the first was with a 13 year old girl. Even by Alaskan standards (which are very loose) that is a bit young.

Sick.... really sick... yea, we want her in the White House. Her and her husband are good evangelicals, and typical of the breed. But lets move on to other issues.

Her husband and daughter: is child #5 really Sarah's? I don' believe so after looking at family photos on the internet. The eldest daughter is the mother for sure, but is the father of that child Sarah's husband? Let's do a little DNA test.

Will she support states that wish to secede from the United States, since her and her husband were both in a party pushing to have Alaska secede from the Union?

Will she legalize pot since she smokes it herself?

Will she change her position and start supporting unwed mothers, particularly teens so they can finish an education through college?

Last night, this woman was pathetic. Nothing to say that was grounded in reality and less to say about solving our problems except continue the same old republican bull that has existed since Reagan and have proven a failure to all but the rich.


And now from the same group that exposed Edward's affari, the news is she had an affair...oh, no.

What a joke on McCain by his own party. He should have picked Lieberman.

Posted by: the old dog | September 5, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

check out what real veterans think of john mccain

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MUY9S6iCvk

Posted by: the real mccain | September 5, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

hey Lactating man,

Her daughter, the oldest one, is the one who gave birth to the fifth child. Look at her hooters -- covered up and swollen. Her bra was suffed with tissue so the milk leakage wouldn't show on her blouse.

The only question is who is the father.. a lover or her own father?
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Is this a contest to see who can be the most ignorant? Because you're winning.

Posted by: right.... | September 5, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Hmm

No it was put out by the Bush Campaign in 2004, stupid.

Posted by: basementfrog | September 5, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I remain nameless but I'm so whitty that I can't think of anything else to say except everyone is a moron. True, you are a moron!

Posted by: Bulldog | September 5, 2008 3:51 PM | Report abuse

hey Lactating man,

Her daughter, the oldest one, is the one who gave birth to the fifth child. Look at her hooters -- covered up and swollen. Her bra was suffed with tissue so the milk leakage wouldn't show on her blouse.

The only question is who is the father.. a lover or her own father?

Posted by: basementfrog | September 5, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Lets keep this in mind...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x171237


He is not what he claims to be. Neither is Palin. LIARS and the dumb who believe them are where our problem is as a country...its why our kids are dying in Iraq, stupid!

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hmm... where did you get that little gem? Oh wait. Democratic Underground? I wonder how you found that one there! The media is clearly just freaking out because Obama is going to lose.

Posted by: hmm | September 5, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Does Ms. palin realize that in many states the pitbull is illegal and must always be kept on a chain?

They hunt Pitbulls in Alaska. She knows how to field dress one of these too. That's why she has my vote.

Plus she has that cleavage thing going on.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Will we have more of someone just like Bush? Perhaps so, check out this video clip from CNN:

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/09/04/moos.nuke.that.word.cnn?iref=videosearch

Posted by: Valdar | September 5, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Lets keep this in mind...


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x171237

He is not what he claims to be. Neither is Palin. LIARS and the dumb who believe them are where our problem is as a country...its why our kids are dying in Iraq, stupid!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Geez,sounds like some of you republicans are getting those prescripting drugs Cindy McCain was hooked on,you know the ones she had filled under other peoples names..

Posted by: Oh-No | September 5, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

The decision will come down to race, gender and religion. Race -it's odd that the African Americans have jumped on his bandwagon when his whole bio was about his white family...white mom, white grandparents. Gender -he left the gal at the alter who clearly had a more broad base support. It's going to bit him in the butt. Religion - I doubt his church represents anything like 99% of the rest of us. He won't win because of these 3 things, not what he says or does. It's just politics.

Posted by: Buckeyes | September 5, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

This is America, why are we even considering putting a fatherless 1/2 white / 1/2 Muslim on the ticket anyways.
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What??? There aren't any Muslim's running for office. Surely you haven't forgotten that Rev. Wright's church is a Christian church.

How do you stupid people find your way on to these websites anyway???

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

"Anonymous:

Sarah Palin was the only woman showing cleavage at the conventions because she just had a baby and is most likely still lactating. You can't keep those puppies under wrap easily. They just bust out all over the place. Besides, you are only one complaining. You must be a woman. Sour grapes, my dear?

Posted by: clementine | September 5, 2008 1:46 PM "

Uhhh, if she wasn't wearing a low-cut top, I believe those "puppies" could have been easily contained.

Anyway, what part of "I'm just wondering" sounds like a complaint to you? It does seem strange that she was dressed for a cocktail party instead of a political convention where she knew the cameras would be on her.

By the way, I'm not a woman. I am a 54 old man so while I might be entertained by Palin's cleavage, I am certainly not jealous of it.

("Anonymous" is not me but someone who reposted my original message repeatedly.)

Posted by: justonehouse | September 5, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Who are you kidding, all these morons couldnt run a mcdonalds. Dems/Reps have all been bought and paid for by wall St. and Madison Ave and K street. You have no real power, they tell you who to vote for. they make the real decisions, they own you, this country and your family, they only let you live here so you can wash their clothes and mow their lawn and take care of their children. the only thing you have power of is over is your death and even that tehy will tell you when you can die.

Posted by: the truth wil set you free | September 5, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: basementfrog | September 5, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Fact is the Geneva Conventions call for the earliest arriving POW's to be the first to be released. Firsr in, first out. This is US Naval policy too. Many POW's were tempted with the offer by the N. Vietnamese. Some were even sent home early involuntarily. Being a Naval Academy grad and the son of the highest ranking naval officer in the Pacific, McCain would be most concerned his own father might have him court martialed for taking an early release.

Point being this was never really an issue and these offers were normally rejected by many POW's.

Now McCain did technically get in trouble when he signed a confession admitting to dropping bombs on civilians. This was at the time it occured, a violation of US Milirary code.

But in all fairness, the confession was signed after McCain's spirit was broken. This also was not uncommon. After the war was over these men were forgiven for the reasons they signed the confessions--undue duress.

Because of violations by the North Vietnamese, the code of conduct was subsequently re-written to allow for the signature of phoney confessions if it is a question of a soldiers survival in a POW prison.

Hundreds of airmen suffered together for years in those prison camps. We all owe a debt of gratitude to all of them for their service to our country.

Posted by: Humpty Dumpty | September 5, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else think it odd that the Rs are now hanging their hats on McCain's war "heroism"? Let's face it-the heroic part of his service was signing up in the first place, (but as the attacks on Kerry prove-that doesn't matter to the average R). So after that, what do we have? A guy who was unlucky enough to get shot down, and imprisoned against his will. At that point he's simply dealing with the consequences as best he can-a rather passive type of heroism, (as opposed to an active heroism where you choose to risk your life).
So in the final analysis-McCain had better bring more to the table, (all seven or eight of them), or he will be defeated.

Posted by: Biff | September 5, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Hey Basementfrog,

Why don't you pick apart Obama's and Biden's life and ideals as you've attempted with McCain and Palin and see what you come up with???
Most drive-bys and democrats just want to ignore "cutting the grass" on their side of the fence.

Posted by: JSP | September 5, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I read this:

This is America, why are we even considering putting a fatherless 1/2 white / 1/2 Muslim on the ticket anyways.


Good god, this IS America, and we have people like this STILL around. Where do you live buddy, the hills of West Virginia? This is the fear I have, we have too many people like this in our country that are just plain idiots. Could this guy point Iraq out on the map? I bet he hates Muslims, but couldn't tell me why other than they aren't christians. Truth is, the average person in this country has more in common with the average person in Iraq than we have in common with McRich (how many houses do you own, how much are any of them worth, more than Obama's "freakin mansion" I am sure). Plus, the one trick pony that is Palin is nothing more than a blatent attempt to woo the conseravtie right to their side. How stupid are these people? She's anti-abortion. Well, good enough for me, it doesn't matter that she has NO idea what she is doing (what does a VP do anyway?). You people make me sick.

Posted by: Justin | September 5, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

No matter which party you are for there is one thing I'll bet we can ALL agree on as Americans

This is the BEST election ever!!!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

I just hope that China, Russia, Iran, ect, ect don't think Canada supports US war mongering beliefs. Don't kill us peaceful Canadians!!

Hey, I'm Canadian and to me killing thousands of young adults and children is worse than abortion- something the republicans have no problem doing (4000+ dead Americans in Iraq 100000+ dead Iraquies).

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 3:37 PM | Report abuse

"The Republican nominee beat Democratic challenger Barack Obama's record-setting convention speech viewership by 500,000 viewers."
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and that is because of the nature of her pick, people want to know what she is all about and it was her FIRST appearance on the national stage.

People were getting weary of Obama in the media and he STILL attracted over 38 million viewers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Does Ms. palin realize that in many states the pitbull is illegal and must always be kept on a chain?

McCain might want to read what Wikipedia states: Lack of proper socialization and strong training can result in a dog with aggressive tendencies. Under the care of an overly-permissive or uneducated owner, Pit Bulls can become very dangerous dogs.

Posted by: Valdar | September 5, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Here’s a link to the article in the LA Times re McCain and Palin's earmarking.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-earmarks3-2008sep03,0,2482434.story

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Tanktag says: "it a previlkage for the amnials to live on earth. to feed us and cloth us. i would rather have 20 more years with the rep. tha one day with the god hateing, baby killing ,gun control, tax raising tree hugging wacks of the dem. party" The spelling alone says it all. Sadly, idiots like this far outnumber those with a brain who will vote otherwise.

Posted by: Just Vote | September 5, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

my name is Bulldog and i am a moron

Posted by: Bulldog | September 5, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Elizabeth,

Put pain at the top of the ticket then, if she has so much experience.

MCCAIN MORE OF THE SAME!!

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

How nice that the people can have a voice too (regardless of what they say) instead of just listening to biased media coverage. Isn't the internet great!!! I must respond to those persons who say that the "disappointed Hillary supports" are not real "former Democrats" .... they are very wrong. After the disgusting display of the DNC and the so called "super delagates" (who switched their votes every other day" and the disgraceful way they treated Hillary, I will never vote for a Democrat again. I will be very proud to cast my vote for the McCain/Palin ticket.

Posted by: mythoughts02 | September 5, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

McCain, the self professed only real American in the whole country because he crashed a plane after killing civilian on twenty-three fly bys. What a great man. Yea, right. He just can't stop talking about himself.

But when he ran against George W. even the Vets wouldn't support him because he, in truth, collaborated with the Vietnamese govt. Now, he throws his military experience out every time he opens his big angry mouth. Well here is the truth about heroics McShame.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x171237

search for : Vietnam veterans against john "songbird" mccain

Yes, McCain will make the American schools better by introducing competition, i.e., privatize them and let corporations run the schools...like the republicans did to Freddie Mac and Fannie May. Private so long as individuals can profit, but when all the money is scammed away and CEO salaries are bankrupting the schools, the tax payers will bail them out.

Besides Americans want Public schools closed so they can pay approximately $8,000 per child per year for elementry school. Don't worry the Govenment will give you a voucher...for about $1,000 per year, you pay the rest.

Add your private insurance to that since corporation will no longer help you and watch that middle class dream melt away...

Don't worry! McCain will fix it. Perhaps he will get all the corporations to give us money like Palin did in Alaska. Perhaps they could introduce a whole new type of welfare like Palin did in Alaska. Not just people in need will get money from corporations, but everyone. But lets don't put that money into a national account to cover a national healthcare program. That would be socialism...uuuooohhh...bad social causes will ruin us, that would be tax.

No, let's just have those corporations give away their money because we all deserve part of those profits they make extracting oil, poluting our environment, feeding fat food meals to our families, selling gas guzzling cars made in China (used to be made here). But whatever we do lets don't apply it to a social cause because every person knows best what to do with this free money...like buying a new gun, or more beer, or a new truck.

And hey, explain why Levi Johnston shouldn't be arrested as a pedophile. How can Palin protect the country if she can't protect her own kids from pedophiles?

This is his second child; the first was with a 13 year old girl. Even by Alaskan standards (which are very loose) that is a bit young.

Sick.... really sick... yea, we want her in the White House. Her and her husband are good evangelicals, and typical of the breed. But lets move on to other issues.

Her husband and daughter: is child #5 really Sarah's? I don' believe so after looking at family photos on the internet. The eldest daughter is the mother for sure, but is the father of that child Sarah's husband? Let's do a little DNA test.

Will she support states that wish to secede from the United States, since her and her husband were both in a party pushing to have Alaska secede from the Union?

Will she legalize pot since she smokes it herself?

Will she change her position and start supporting unwed mothers, particularly teens so they can finish an education through college?

Last night, this woman was pathetic. Nothing to say that was grounded in reality and less to say about solving our problems except continue the same old republican bull that has existed since Reagan and have proven a failure to all but the rich.


And now from the same group that exposed Edward's affari, the news is she had an affair...oh, no.

What a joke on McCain by his own party. He should have picked Lieberman.

Posted by: basementfrog | September 5, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

The Dems. are going to get smoked in the debates. I can't wait!
i am a moron see for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4&NR=1

Posted by: McCain Supporter | September 5, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

To answer wesfromGA, it would have been called a marvelous speech from a man that manages to have the pulse of Americans every single time he opens his maw. He would have been called inspiring, thoughtful, popular, and an all around perfect savior. The press would swoon, the heavens would part, and Jesus would descend because Obama hath spoken.

Instead, it's McCain. He's old. He's boring. He's old. Did I mention he's old? 'cause he's old. McOld. Old old.

And this comes from someone who usually votes Democrat. I've selected not to vote this cycle for one simple reason: Neither Obama nor McCain are worthy to sit at the head of our government.

Posted by: Jack | September 5, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

The Dems. are going to get smoked in the debates. I can't wait!

Posted by: McCain Supporter | September 5, 2008 11:31 AM

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How's that? So far, only Obama has had any substance. McCain says, I'm gonna change this, but it's all smoke and sound bites.

His attack ads say that Obama's energy plan will cost jobs, but he never says why he thinks so (btw - economists generally disgree).

McCain says Obama will raise taxes - Obama has promised to LOWER taxes for all of us working people.

Obama remembers how many houses he has.

McCain's health plan does not include coverage for people with pre-existing conditions. Since about 1/3 of Americans have pre-existing conditions, the number of uninsured will very likely double!

The reasons to not vote for McCain are numerous.

Let's get this country back on track - vote for Obama.

Posted by: Rich | September 5, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Well I keep hearing McCain and Palin calling themselve mavericks,but I cant figure out which one is Bart and which one is Bret and I dont think our Country can gamble on either one!!They are both republicans with the same ideology and political beliefs as George Bush,and thats why our country is in a terrible mess,So dont be fooled!!

Posted by: Oh-No | September 5, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

The only thing Obama has run is a campaign. We'd be better off hiring out of the want ads in the newspaper. Look at his resume, any sane person would see he can't hold down a job long enough to get a true messure of his worth....which I'm guessing is worthless. Go run for office in a Muslim country where you can continue praying for your Islam god.

Posted by: Bulldog | September 5, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Watching how sexist liberals have all of a sudden become is HILARIOUS. Reducing Sarah Palin to simply gender, despite her (minimal but still more than the 3 men on the tickets) executive experience is okay but reducing Obama to simply race when he has even less experience is not okay? Really???

It's kind of just... logic.

Posted by: Elizabeth | September 5, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

"The Republican nominee beat Democratic challenger Barack Obama's record-setting convention speech viewership by 500,000 viewers."


you mean 500,000 republicans decided to watch? very impressive that moronic republicans would tune in.

Who's the celebrity now, you neocons everything you say alway comes back to bite you in the ass.

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor: by whos that

And how did that turn out?

Posted by: TF | September 5, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

"How absurd are these morons who think that Bush has EVERYTHING to do with the downturn of the economy "

Let's see, who lied to start an illegal war? A war that now cost every American man, woman and child $30000 of debt.
Who stetched their military so thin that every rogue country now ignors their threats- because the US is no threat? They are too thin and too far in debt.

Who now wants to place a woman within reach of the button to destroy earth when she is a stranger? Man, I just wish the US would disapear!!

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Fox news claims McCain is stealing Obamas platform. youre going to love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4&NR=1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:18 PM


pure genius

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Fox news claims McCain is stealing Obamas platform. youre going to love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aMDJP4VxY4&NR=1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Birdman you said "Pain" LOL

Posted by: toot | September 5, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain is common sense – hahahaha - if he can DISS reverence racist and kicked his white grandmother out and under the bus – imagine what’s he’s going to do you “Whites”. Can you imagine McCain in a private room talking – I’m guarantee 100% his white ancestry would rise from the grave and slap him silly. You gonna love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:09 PM

pure genius

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I only vote for a real new president who takes care of the country first...Why spent billions overseas while people in the country still having no health insurance,budget for school being cut off,and alot of things not yet be done,if we do not spent that money for war,now american people having a better life...

Posted by: DANH PHAM | September 5, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"The Republican nominee beat Democratic challenger Barack Obama's record-setting convention speech viewership by 500,000 viewers."


you mean 500,000 republicans decided to watch? very impressive that moronic republicans would tune in.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

How absurd are these morons who think that Bush has EVERYTHING to do with the downturn of the economy (Bush/McCain failed policies of the past)??? The position of the President proposes and enforces the laws but does NOT write them! I am not Bushbot that thinks he's the best thing on this side of heaven but give the man a break. People should point more fingers at their Congressman/woman and see if they are to blame from bad fiscal decisions. ALL economies go in cycles- Bull market then Bear then Bull the Bear and so on. Also, 9/11 sucker-punched our economic system, and also people are SPENDING more then they make and purchasing a house when they really can't afford it. Some of these people that are unemployed should start their own business or find a better field to work in! Stop complaining!!! We live in the wealthiest country in the world! Our poor have more then the millions in Third World countries.
(And who am I to say these things? I am a 24 year-old married man with a modest house and a 40k income. I thing that I am VERY blessed.)

Posted by: JSP | September 5, 2008 3:03 PM

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this is about the most insulting ignorant post i have seen in several days.
FIRST-
George Bush did not veto ONE bill in nearly 6 years. Why? Because the Republican ran Congress and Senate was sending his GOP sponsored bills. The GOPD led this country in every way possible straight into a ditch. What happend AFTER the mandate in 2006 when Dems got the majority in the congress? ( Too slim to get anything done mind you)George Bush uses the most Vetoes in US History in the shortest span of time in political history. Blame our congress people? Sure when and if its deserved.
Glad to know you are blessed.
I guess you are also subscribing to McCain's former economic adviser that we are a "Nation of Whiners"
Tell that to folks who desperatly want work but are struggling due to the highest unempolyment rates in the last 9 years.
Tell that to the guy who's job has been outscourced despite his superb hard work. tell that to folks for whom their pensions were robbed from large coperations that cooked thier books. I could go on and on. Its HIGHLY insulting to suggest the vast majority of the economic misery Americans are enduring is a product of their own making. Gee i really wonder how many folks are truly asking to be layed off? KOOKY

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

McCain is common sense – hahahaha - if he can DISS reverence racist and kicked his white grandmother out and under the bus – imagine what’s he’s going to do you “Whites”. Can you imagine McCain in a private room talking – I’m guarantee 100% his white ancestry would rise from the grave and slap him silly. You gonna love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:09 PM

pure genius

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"The Republican nominee beat Democratic challenger Barack Obama's record-setting convention speech viewership by 500,000 viewers."

Just because more watched it doesn't mean more liked it!!

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

McCain supporters you will love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

McCain is common sense – hahahaha - if he can DISS reverence racist and kicked his white grandmother out and under the bus – imagine what’s he’s going to do you “Whites”. Can you imagine McCain in a private room talking – I’m guarantee 100% his white ancestry would rise from the grave and slap him silly. You gonna love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c&feature=related

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Here's a clip from Jan & Dean. I found it apropos. Bet you can’t watch just once: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX7X4FovYRA&NR=1 And how ‘bout true tales from the Pork-master General? It's worth a read: http://theseedsof9-11.com

Posted by: Peggy McGilligan | September 5, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

GisGd

i chuckled every time the repubs brought up Sarah palins quals. Her city uses city administrator so her city job was not admistratvie. That was left to a professional city admin.

Wasilla ANnual budget is ONLYy 12.5 Mill$
http://www.cityofwasilla.com/index.aspx?page=49

“My understanding is that Gov. Palin’s town, Wassilla, has I think 50 employees. We've got 2500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe 12 million dollars a year – we have a budget of about three times that just for the month,” Obama responded".

THe ak national guard reports to DOD for activations. So what does that leave her in charge of military. The ak Nat guard commander said she did not have to make any decisions.

I guess she is still close to Russia and north pole. Does she believe in Santa?

Are you better off now than you were four years ago? It is time for a change. Dont vote for any repub.

Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor

Posted by: whos that | September 5, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Every Democrat says "McSame" or same as usual Government, well I'd rather have more of the same than to see this country spiral downward with Obama and his elitist ideas that will go nowhere.
Pain has more qualifications to be president than he does. So he's run a couple of town hall meetings and campained for 19 months, and is a JR Senator. He has never lead anything other than a bunch of cultistic followers to his watering hole. reminds me of the Jones cult in the 70s, when does the poison kool-aid get served to his people?

Posted by: Birdman | September 5, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

McCain is common sense – hahahaha - if he can DISS reverence racist and kicked his white grandmother out and under the bus – imagine what’s he’s going to do you “Whites”. Can you imagine McCain in a private room talking – I’m guarantee 100% his white ancestry would rise from the grave and slap him silly. You gonna love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajm5JTf7jZs&NR=1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous did you not read my post. God's law is far more concerned about whether or not you rejected his Son, Jesus Christ than whether I vote Republican or not.

Posted by: Lori 4 Christ | September 5, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I find it amazing how Democrats suddenly call McCain another Bush. These are the same people along with the media that started calling him a "Maverick" and independant thinker some years ago. I guess now that he is running for office against the Messiah he is now "more of the same".

McCain is a person of principle and sticks to what he thinks is right regardless of party affiliation. Unlike Obama he actually takes a stance and votes something besides "PRESENT" on tough issues.

I know all of the Dems are sick of hearing about McCain's POW experience. But, the real question is... if you were in that same position what would you do? Sell out your country to save your life? Better yet... what would Obama do?

Posted by: TomB | September 5, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain is common sense – hahahaha - if he can DISS reverence racist and kicked his white grandmother out and under the bus – imagine what’s he’s going to do you “Whites”. Can you imagine McCain in a private room talking – I’m guarantee 100% his white ancestry would rise from the grave and slap him silly. You gonna love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6GBdyws5YU

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain is common sense – hahahaha - if he can DISS reverence racist and kicked his white grandmother out and under the bus – imagine what’s he’s going to do you “Whites”. Can you imagine McCain in a private room talking – I’m guarantee 100% his white ancestry would rise from the grave and slap him silly. You gonna love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6GBdyws5YU

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

How absurd are these morons who think that Bush has EVERYTHING to do with the downturn of the economy (Bush/McCain failed policies of the past)??? The position of the President proposes and enforces the laws but does NOT write them! I am not Bushbot that thinks he's the best thing on this side of heaven but give the man a break. People should point more fingers at their Congressman/woman and see if they are to blame from bad fiscal decisions. ALL economies go in cycles- Bull market then Bear then Bull the Bear and so on. Also, 9/11 sucker-punched our economic system, and also people are SPENDING more then they make and purchasing a house when they really can't afford it. Some of these people that are unemployed should start their own business or find a better field to work in! Stop complaining!!! We live in the wealthiest country in the world! Our poor have more then the millions in Third World countries.
(And who am I to say these things? I am a 24 year-old married man with a modest house and a 40k income. I thing that I am VERY blessed.)

Posted by: JSP | September 5, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

If you are a religious nut you have to vote republican, its the law of god.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

John McCain has won the ratings race.

The Republican nominee beat Democratic challenger Barack Obama's record-setting convention speech viewership by 500,000 viewers.

McCain's address at the Democratic National Convention was seen by about 38.9 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research. Obama received 38.4 million.

That means McCain's speech is now the most-watched in convention history -- 41% higher than George W. Bush's acceptance speech four years ago, and 1% higher than Obama. DEMOCRATS IN TROUBLE
https://secure.donationreport.com/donation.html?key=5SEMNE8YBQXB

By DICK MORRIS & EILEEN MCGANN

Published in the The New York Post on September 5, 2008

The convention floor was abuzz all yesterday with the news of the CBS poll showing a dead tie (42-42) in the presidential race. And the poll, conducted through Wednesday, couldn't reflect the impact of John McCain's speech, or the full impact of Sarah Palin's late Wednesday night. It reflected opinions only after the Democrats' convention, Barack Obama's incredible speech, the Palin selection and the early, Gustav-depressed GOP gathering.

That augers ill for the Democrats. Tonight's polling could bring evidence that the Obama candidacy is in big trouble.

First, the GOP convention managed to disprove the central premise of the Democratic assault on McCain: that he is a clone of President Bush. The Republicans wisely marginalized Bush to a non-prime-time videotaped speech, and sprinkled disappearing dust on Dick Cheney.

The speeches, and the very fact of the Palin designation, repudiated Washington and focused on how McCain is an agent of change - this ticket is populist, reformist, anti-establishment, grass-roots and anti-corruption.

And McCain last night made the point plain: "Let me offer an advance warning to the old, big-spending, do-nothing, me-first-country-second Washington crowd: Change is coming."

If Bush were the nominee, this campaign wouldn't suffice to push voters away from Obama. But now that McCain has moved decisively away from the administration, Obama's lost much (at least) of his advantage on the issue of reform. Now other doubts about Obama could elect McCain.

The turning point was the designation of Palin and the personal attacks on her. By stirring up a storm, Democrats assured that Palin would speak to 37 million Americans - just a million fewer than watched Obama's acceptance speech.

Anecdotal evidence already suggests that women may have a gut reaction to the establishment's sexist assault on a woman candidate - and flock to McCain. They've seen him stake everything on this one big move of turning toward a woman - in direct contrast to Obama's deliberate decision not to name a woman.

They've seen the media and Democrats gang up on her and do their worst. And they've seen Palin stand up and stuff the challenge right back down the establishment's throat. All this may have created an entirely new dynamic in the race.

Now the Republicans must battle to underscore the threats this country faces, economically and internationally, and that we can't let an ingenue take over. They must capitalize on McCain's aggressive determination to bring reform to Washington and to emphasize Obama's inexperience and failure to grasp how to change Washington.

But it was McCain's gutsy selection of Palin that opened the door to victory.

Sarah Palin's wilderness, where the cops don't bother you | Damian Whitworth - Times Online

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4677726.ece?Submitted=true

http://www.fieldandstream.com/article_gallery/Sarah-Palin-Hunting-and-Fishing-Pics/4


Posted by: rtfanning | September 5, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

Hey Buzz,

It is true Democrats dont win alot but they know how to govern. Republicans win, dont know how to govern, thruth hurts.

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

After reading so much from both republicans and democrats and those in between , one wants to bury their head and heart in something much deeper and abiding. For me that is the Bible and it is the only place I can find true peace,happiness, joy, contentment and prosperity. I for one am not looking to the Obama/Biden or MCCain/Palin ticket for the answers to my problem. I will vote. I know I won't vote for Obama/Biden simply because on almost every issue they stand on hurts me and my family. And I am not sure if I should vote for MCCain/Palin because while they might line up with my personal needs on their issue stance I am not sure they will follow through on them once elected. I live in a state that doesn't always put the libertarian or constitunalist parties on the November ticket. I know countless other true Bible Believing Christians that feel as neglected among the politicians as I and my family do. We are the true minority in this country and have very few voices in the local/state/ or federal venue.

I feel strongly that where I can do the most good for my country in on my knees in prayer. For only God himself can keep this country from spiraling downward to the gates of Hell.

I will spend many hours in prayer knowing that when I go into the voting booth in November God will have led me to the truth. As one of my friends stated not voting for McCain may be a vote for Obama even if I don't vote for Obama. So that maybe what God will have me do. In the meantime I will pray for anyone who reads this that they too will seek God's wisdom and Vote and maybe one day we will see a revival in this country where people will see that they need Jesus Christ as their saviour from their sinful life and their only way to an eternal life in heaven.

Posted by: Lori 4 Christ | September 5, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate proves he is NOT a maverick. He's a loose canon! If he should get a phone call at 3 in the morning, do I really want such a man as president to answer it?

Republicans believe that giving money to the rich is an investment. While giving money to the poor is an outrage.

But the last 8 years have shown that tax breaks to the rich have generated the largest budget deficits in the history of this nation and the greatest number of job losses.

The ugly truth is the rich man has more tax incentives to invest abroad than to invest in this country --- never mind that every business investment carries a risk of fraud and loss.

At least a poor man has no choice but to spend his welfare checks here (or should we use the Bush terminology 'economic-stimulus checks'?)

I am voting for the Democrats only because I can't swallow the lies Republicans have been feeding me anymore.

I believe the taxes I will be paying to support welfare cheats will be less under Democrat rule than the taxes I am currently paying to support corporate cheats under Republican rule.

After all, you can still buy a hamburger for less than a dollar. But bailing out big business takes billions of dollars.

Posted by: MAD@GOP | September 5, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Obamma is common sense – hahahaha - if he can DISS reverence racist and kicked his white grandmother out and under the bus – imagine what’s he’s going to do you “Whites”. Can you imagine Wright and Obamma in a private room talking – I’m guarantee 100% his white ancestry would rise from the grave and slap him silly. You gonna love this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvZpp9QJRME&feature=related

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I was amazed by the people (and ladies in particular) who were 'inspired' by Palin's speech. I would like to hear what she has to say in her own words.

It is not happening. Someone wrote her speech, which she stumbled over. They intend to squirrel her away in Alaska next week, and help her cram for her VP debate, memorizing talking points she will use regardless of the question.

She gave a radio interview yesterday and refused to meet with reporters after for question time. She just delivered a prepared series of statements.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Unemployment 6.1% in this country. Realisticly, It's probably at least past 7%.

No, its 10%. They dont count people who are in jail.
They are the unemployed we dont acknowledge.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

"George Bush fought his fathers war with Saddam. We dont want McCain to come and use the country to start another war."


McBush/Palin want to fight Vietnam all over again.

MCCAIN MORE OF THE SAME

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

being an independant voter who decides who ill vote for based on facts rather than speechfactory sound bites and sophomoric name calling, I was amazed by the people (and ladies in particular) who were 'inspired' by Palin's speech. I would like to hear what she has to say in her own words. Her dumbed-down speech was vicious, slanderous and insulting. But she's a lady, so she must be compassionate, right. When the stock market crashes and the nukes start flying, I want a matronly, compassionate lady sitting in whats pretty much a ceremonial position....

how about we try to avoid the stock crash and nuke flying in the first place?


And frankly, the democrats have not impressed me either. But i've heard more ideas from them (some better than others, but hey they're trying at least) as opposed to their opponents. i'm interested to hear what mc cain has to offer as far as solutions go. I've been waiting for awhile though....

educate yourselves people. the truth is out there, but its not cut into easy to digest pieces for you!

Posted by: NoneOfTheAbove | September 5, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

This is America, why are we even considering putting a fatherless 1/2 white / 1/2 Muslim on the ticket anyways.
Doesn't make much sense as to why people support him, he hasn't a real clue as to what real America is all about.All talk no show. Lacks everything it takes to be president.
There are thousands of right wing Americans who haven't come out of the woodwork yet, but will at election time.
Dems always lead the polls before an election, but rarely win the race. Look at history!
I can see how afraid the Dems are now after reading these post.
Maverick/barracuda "08"

Posted by: BUZZ | September 5, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

My real name is McCain and I am a moron.

Can't use my real name 'cuz I can't back up anything I say.

Posted by: McCain | September 5, 2008 2:49 PM

Posted by: McCain | September 5, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Michael Moore promised to move to Canada if GWB was re-elected... Guess he decided not to. Typical elitist...figured somhow it was not in his best interest.

Posted by: Derek | September 5, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Again, from the Associated Press: “The Tax Policy Center, a think-tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama’s plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about five per cent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain’s plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by three per cent, the center concluded.”


do you want 5% more or 3% more? republicans are morons thats why they'll choose 3% more

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

The fat cats are very worried about Obama. They want to use all our taxes for a bloated military and corporate tax cuts.

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Mccain Smart man...He has PALIN!!!

Posted by: Supporter4U | September 5, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

My real name is Democrat and I am a moron.

Can't use my real name 'cuz I can't back up anything I say.

Posted by: Democrat | September 5, 2008 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Get ready Bill. Because if you see McCain Palin elected, you are going to see more Americans in Canada then you have ever seen before.

Posted by: for Bill from Canada | September 5, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Obamma is common sense – hahahaha - if he can DISS his racist uncle/friend Wright and kicked his white grandmother out and under the bus – imagine what he’s going to do to you “Whitees”. Can you imagine Wright and Obamma in a private room talking – I guarantee 100% his white ancestry would rise from the grave and slap him silly. You gonna love this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvZpp9QJRME&feature=related

Posted by: Funny | September 5, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

"PS the part that he would hold back some of the 250billion dollars given to foreign countries every year that "don't like us much" was brilliant. I would vote for him just for that."

250billion dollars won't even make a dent in your interest debt.

Maybe if he killed all the polar bears to make expensive clothing to sell and tapped out the oil reserves in Alaska and sold the land owned by some American who faulted on a morgage payment, he could pay for more war.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Electing McCain will be like giving George Bush a third term. If McCain is elected the same people who currently screw up the nation will be at play in Washington. George Bush fought his fathers war with Saddam. We dont want McCain to come and use the country to start another war.
1) The cost of everything has gone up.
2) The nation is in debt.
3) Jobless rate is high.

I would give Obama a chance.

Posted by: Ex-Republican | September 5, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Or how about her claim that Obama would increase the tax burden of normal American citizens?

Again, from the Associated Press: “The Tax Policy Center, a think-tank run jointly by the Brookings Institution and the Urban Institute, concluded that Obama’s plan would increase after-tax income for middle-income taxpayers by about five per cent by 2012, or nearly $2,200 annually. McCain’s plan, which cuts taxes across all income levels, would raise after tax-income for middle-income taxpayers by three per cent, the center concluded.”

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

To Sarah Palin: I find it disgusting that you have the audacity to criticize--even make fun of--Barack Obama's service as a community leader who helped people on the south side of Chicago (rather than running off to a law firm with his Harvard law degree and making millions) while you stare out to a crowd of thousands of people holding signs that read "Service" and exclaim your campaign's mantra, "Country First." From one woman to another, I'm happy for you that you wear lipstick, are a self-professed soccer mom and a member of the PTA. But may I remind you that there are millions of other women in this country who fit that same profile? You are a dime a dozen and it's laughable that you and your party think you're fit to be Vice President. Why don't you go home, take care of your 5-month-old infant and keep attending those PTA meetings? Oh, and your 17-year-old daughter could probably use a hand too. Abstinence-only education? Yeah, that's just as much of a joke as you are.

Posted by: Really??? | September 5, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Telling a country when it's leaders are wrong and its wars are unjust is an unrecognized service to one's country.

Posted by: Charles | September 5, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Once Again...
Does anyone else find it utteringly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is comming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongoring, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb trhough the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe Mccarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 2:42 PM


pure genius

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is Derek and i am a moron

Posted by: Derek | September 5, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Once Again...
Does anyone else find it utteringly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is comming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongoring, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb trhough the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe Mccarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Democrats stop being bitter and angry, it will just result in a negative outcome. Do not be deceive and seek the truth. We are all Americans and we should all work together and not be so negative on our comments. I'am a republican but i don't let my emotions dictate my decisions.

Posted by: Gemini | September 5, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is wowwww. and i am a moron

Posted by: wowwww. | September 5, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

McCain's POW experience, if you pay attention, is presented to help you understand the man and his 40 some year commitment to serving his country SINCE that time. Only a brainwashed liberal would think that McCain claims POW experince to be foreign policy experience.

Posted by: Derek | September 5, 2008 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I don't have a political affiliation however I think I will be behind McCain. He has served his country above and beyond anyone I have heard from. The sniping remarks from the Democratic camp disgust me. Such lack of respect. I doubt of any of these bloggers would suffer a day for their country the way he did for years. He has good ideas and has proven himself a reformer, locking heads with Bush on many issues. Calling him McSame is insane. My original preference would have been Hillary but Obama creeps me out. I can't do Demos this time.

PS the part that he would hold back some of the 250billion dollars given to foreign countries every year that "don't like us much" was brilliant. I would vote for him just for that.

Posted by: Me | September 5, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

I have been a Republican by whole life,
but after 8 years of Bush...
I cannot support another four years of the same!!
McCain time has "been"... he' what wrong with Washington.
Did you see "who" gave the most to his campaign.. The Drug companies !! so much, for Health Care Reform ! He's in their pockets!
The only reason he chose "Palin" was to get "votes", He chose what was best for him, not was best for the country.
..and then to hear his speech last night... give me a break !
practice what you preach !!!

Obama has my vote.. and my hope for our future

Posted by: Rita O | September 5, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

So apparently I'm a moron because someone has no life and likes to post under other people's names. That's cool.

Posted by: wowww. | September 5, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

What would a pit bull wearing lipstick do with a nuclear arsenal?
I'd rather not find out.

Posted by: Charles | September 5, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is JSmithCSA and i am a moron

Posted by: JSmithCSA | September 5, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Nobody is shoving religion down your throat. Simply don't spread your legs, and if you do make a responsible choice of accepting the consequence - you're pregnant - It's crystal clear - it's either a boy or a girl - not an alien - can't be anything else – Go ask Obamma. Oops, it’s beyond his pay grade…

Posted by: Babies | September 5, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is wowwww. and i'm a moron

Posted by: wowwww. | September 5, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Bob in Canada says: "Is it me, or did folks miss McCain's statement that he will fix corruption in Washington ? Who's there now anyways ? His party."

Well, yes and no. There are two parties in power. The Democrats run the Congress, as you may have heard even in the snowy northlands. It won't take you more than a minute or two on a reasonable-speed 'puter to find corruption there as well.

However, you may also have heard that both McCain and Palin are "mavericks". For the unenlightened, that means they are not beholden to their party. Where their party is wrong, they will fix it (assuming, of course, they are given the opportunity).

I strongly support Palin. Like many conservatives, I am not a Republican (they have drifted too much over the years) and I don't trust a guy who, as it was stated, has written two autobiographies but no legislation, despite being a paid legislator for a few years.

Posted by: JSmithCSA | September 5, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is a trickle of hope and i'm a moron

Posted by: a trickle of hope | September 5, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"OBAMA IS COMMON SENSE."


Ha. Someone has been drinking waaaaay too much kool-aid. Obama is everything but common sense.

Posted by: wowwww. | September 5, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Don't worry Americans. Once McCain cuts $200 billion of taxes for corporations, they will trickle down to all you you poor people out there without jobs. Just as soon as you agree to work for the same amount the Mexicans and Chinese agree to work for, we will trickle down all those jobs to you too. All those good slave wage jobs. Slave I must say you work 2 - 3 jobs don't you. You are my hero. "That's uniquely American isn't it." (George Bush)

Posted by: a trickle of hope | September 5, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm Canadian and can't vote. I'm thankfull that I'm not American. Because of your wars, the average American is over $30000.00 in debt- and increasing. That's every man, woman and child in America. Just think what that money would have done to help your economy? Just think how much interest your paying on that debt?

Wars cost money and you say the terrorist have not attacked the US since 911? Your attacked every day by your government's economic disaster!!

Posted by: Bill | September 5, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME HOW MCCAIN IS A WAR HERO? IF I HEAR HIS POW STORY ONE MORE TIME, I COULD THROW UP. DOES THIS 'EXPERIENCE' IMPLY HIS EXPERTISE ON WAR AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS? GIVE ME A BREAK. FIRST OF ALL, YOU DONT HAVE TO BE SERVING THE COUNTRY TO BE A POW. IF I WAS SOME DUMB-DUMB WANDERING IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME AND WAS CAPTURED AS A POW, DOES THAT QUALIFY ME AS EXPERIENCED ON THE ISSUES OF WAR AND FOREIGN AFFAIRS? IN THAT CASE, I WANT TO NOMINATE MY GRANDFATHER AND ALL HIS HOMIES FOR THE PRESIDENCY AS WELL, OR AT LEAST THE VP SLOT AS HE LIVES IN NO MANS LAND AND WONT NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE JOB ENTAILS. HEY, IM SOME RANDOM MOM OFF THE STREET, I CAN BE VP TOO!

LETS NOT BE LABELED 'STUPID AMERICANS' FOR ANOTHER 4 YEARS PEOPLE.

OBAMA IS COMMON SENSE.

Posted by: VOTE ME FOR VP | September 5, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Kim,

on the unemployment stats.

Please replace hilary with george bush and republicans. They have share much more responsibility.

They have failed us all. If you are worse off than you were 4 years ag. It is time for a change.

Jesus was a community organizer, Pontius Pilate was a governor

Posted by: whos that | September 5, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Knocking McCain is disrespecful to all Americans that have served our Nation to keep our freedoms, including the freedom of speech witch allows your stupid opinions to be posted here


McCain is a bigger idiot than George Bush

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

It seems the lies are just "business as usual" for these guys. The following is from the LA Times:

According to a report from Associated Press, as mayor of Wasilla (pop. 6,200), Palin hired a lobbyist who worked Washington to support earmarks for the town totalling $27 million.

Odder, still, that McCain should choose Palin as his running mate on this count. The Los Angeles Times reported that McCain, who has campaigned vigorously against earmarking, has listed Wasilla three times in the past as an example of the most “objectionable” earmarks. The mayor of Wasilla during that period? Palin. As for Palin’s record as governor when it comes to earmarking: Under her administration, the state has requested $750 million in special federal funding, easily the largest per capita request in the U.S.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

To Sarah Palin: I find it disgusting that you have the audacity to criticize--even make fun of--Barack Obama's service as a community leader who helped people on the south side of Chicago (rather than running off to a law firm with his Harvard law degree and making millions) while you stare out to a crowd of thousands of people holding signs that read "Service" and exclaim your campaign's mantra, "Country First." From one woman to another, I'm happy for you that you wear lipstick, are a self-professed soccer mom and a member of the PTA. But may I remind you that there are millions of other women in this country who fit that same profile? You are a dime a dozen and it's laughable that you and your party think you're fit to be Vice President. Why don't you go home, take care of your 5-month-old infant and keep attending those PTA meetings? Oh, and your 17-year-old daughter could probably use a hand too. Abstinence-only education? Yeah, that's just as much of a joke as you are.

Posted by: Really??? | September 5, 2008 2:24 PM

genius

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

'To preserve independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty, or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like them, must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give the earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses, and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live, as they now do, on oatmeal and potatoes, have no time to think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account, but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers.' ~Thomas Jefferson

Posted by: T.J. | September 5, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Knocking McCain is disrespecful to all Americans that have served our Nation to keep our freedoms, including the freedom of speech witch allows your stupid opinions to be posted here.

SOME PEOPLE WHO SERVED OUR COUNTRY ARE MORONS.
SOME ARE TREASONOUS. THEY ARE NOT ALL SMART.
THEY ARE NOT EVEN ALL TELLING THE TRUTH.
McVain announced to his fellow prisoner in Hanoi, that he had decided to run for president. I wont let him milk his incompetence as a pilot into commander in chief. He has no credentials besides giving it up to make propaganda for the commies two weeks after he was taken prisoner. His film of propaganda makes him slime. He has not got ANY place running for high office. Between his treason over Iraq and his propaganda for the commies, he should just hide in his wife's houses and get tested for alzheimers.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

all you anti-socialist pubs, consider this: the value of the dollar under the Republicans is now half what it was under the Dems in 1999.

Dems like money too. They just feel ok about sharing it with the poor and the needy, rather than maximizing the entire GNP for just themselves.

Republicans are actually incompetent. Witness the mortgage crisis created by the greed-rules of Sen Gramm, who said you are nation of whiners after his rules destroyed the housing market. Witness the $100 billion loan YOU made (well, Bush took our money and loaned it to the investment banks.


genius. keep in mind dems are the wealthiest people in america. all of which made their money on their own. the repubs on the list inherited their money. repubs dont want to share because they cant create wealth on their own (bush, mccain are perfect examples). dems want to share because they have the confidence in themselves to know they will continue to make more. the more you give the more it comes back to you.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

mco8......nice rah rah speech ....preach me a sermon. the people of this country are not whiners or losers as your party deems unless you make over 5 million dollars. just level the playing field is what we ask . the people ask for help and i get mccain sending me back to school ...bear sterns needs help and its here you go have 7 billion .
Mccain is willing to die for this country yet he wont ask cindy mccain to pay another 5 % in taxes because it would hurt her 500 million dollar net worth .

Posted by: wolverine | September 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

For all the sound and fury, it's sad to see the first woman the Republicans nominated to national position be in this election. I think she has one purpose- that to try to get McCain elected by solidifying the very right wing base that distrusts McCain, and keep the White House in Republican control, and if by some chance she is elected, they will bottle her up like they did Laura Bush the first three months of W's first term (remember she disappeared from the national view when she replyed to a reporter's question she thought a woman should have a choice about her own body and abortion). I don't think the RNC has had a sea change about the position of women relative to men in politics, and there's no way they will let Palin out of her pen. Interesting that the Repubs state that the Presidency is not an on-the-job learning experience, referring to Obama, when that's exactly the position Palin would be in. Although I don't agree with nearly all her policy positions and beliefs (such as teaching creationism on an equal footing with evolution, global warming, the endangered species act, relying on abstinance for birth control, and the ever-popular censorship) I can appreciate her drive and contrariness with her own party in Alaska, which has become a study in corruption. She needed to age a little more, get more experience. They've pulled her into the spotlight too early, for I think some very cynical reasons, one of which is to provide the cultural counter to Michelle and Barack Obama. We don't need another 4 or 8 years of the fuzzy thinking that has gotten us here, from the invasion of Iraq to the EPA, NASA climatology center, Fish and wildlife service, endangered species act (originally written by the way by old-school Repubs who used to stand for the environment instead of strip-mining every natural resource), and on and on. No way, no how, no McCain/Palin.

Posted by: Martie | September 5, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

The problem with McCain is that he is bipartisan and I think he's a great guy. But he has to stoop low into the conservation GOP and such in order to win them over. I've read some of his political accomplishments and some, not all, are neutral libral v. conservative.

Palin feels like such a GOP under-the-table choice that she doesn't reflect McCain at all. In fact, she just proves my fear for McCain correct:
McCain will lead a solid year and half in office, pass away, sadly, and we'll be stuck with Bush in a pants-suit. Just another ultra conservative and not the bipartisan I seemingly voted for.
Super

I'm no risk taker on presidentail poltics, so:
Obama/Biden 08; if you want ANY chance for ANY form of change.

Posted by: Kross | September 5, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Wake me when it's over.

Posted by: Robbie Jay | September 5, 2008 11:35 AM

poor robbie, he's going to join the 40% who were registered but who didnt vote at all in 2004.

Maybe he is bored with having think about something besides football, poor baby. I guess the restoration of the Constitution is not exciting enough for him. Habeas corpus? What's that?
Its gone anyway, right robbie?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

To Sarah Palin: I find it disgusting that you have the audacity to criticize--even make fun of--Barack Obama's service as a community leader who helped people on the south side of Chicago (rather than running off to a law firm with his Harvard law degree and making millions) while you stare out to a crowd of thousands of people holding signs that read "Service" and exclaim your campaign's mantra, "Country First." From one woman to another, I'm happy for you that you wear lipstick, are a self-professed soccer mom and a member of the PTA. But may I remind you that there are millions of other women in this country who fit that same profile? You are a dime a dozen and it's laughable that you and your party think you're fit to be Vice President. Why don't you go home, take care of your 5-month-old infant and keep attending those PTA meetings? Oh, and your 17-year-old daughter could probably use a hand too. Abstinence-only education? Yeah, that's just as much of a joke as you are.

Posted by: Really??? | September 5, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Can someone explain why we are in Afganistan? Is it to rescue the women from their men? Is it because we want to eradicate opium? Is it because Osama is now in Pakistan? Or is it because Afganistan is a dangerous threat to the USA? Could it be the USA is there for political reasons? The Obama plan and the Macain plan for Afganistan are exactly the same, something tells me these men are birds of the same feather. Marko

Posted by: Marko | September 5, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

How dare you people put down an American soldier who served his contry, was tortured and suffered for it, just so you can put this vet down? Knocking McCain is disrespecful to all Americans that have served our Nation to keep our freedoms, including the freedom of speech witch allows your stupid opinions to be posted here.
The real reason for the stupid remarks is because you know your on the losing side again, that's gotta piss ya off!

Posted by: Brian | September 5, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

all you anti-socialist pubs, consider this: the value of the dollar under the Republicans is now half what it was under the Dems in 1999.

Dems like money too. They just feel ok about sharing it with the poor and the needy, rather than maximizing the entire GNP for just themselves.

Republicans are actually incompetent. Witness the mortgage crisis created by the greed-rules of Sen Gramm, who said you are nation of whiners after his rules destroyed the housing market. Witness the $100 billion loan YOU made (well, Bush took our money and loaned it to the investment banks.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

McCain has adopted the Obama platform of change in order to get votes

Posted by: MC08 | September 5, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

5. Life, but respect rights and dont impose your religious beliefs on me.
Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:12 PM

Guess what? That means YOU are voting for OBAMA and BIden because the first thing Palin and McCain will do is appoint federal judges who are chosen by their religious point of view.

Many presidential appointments get little publicity but they control features of our society like whether Doctors and pharmacists are allowed to fail to give advice to patients requiring info on contraceptives or abortion timing to stay legal.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

hey tax gimmick......under obama most people want be paying taxes.....they want have jobs....be on the dole like so many in the socialist countries......yeah bring it on -----socialism vote obamalinbiden!

Posted by: mike | September 5, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

michae1,

I know that story is coming out now. They just said that it was put on Ebay to plug their friend Meg Whitman, CEO of Ebay, that's going to try to replace Arnold for Govenor of California. Free publicity for Ebay. Selling out the Governement once again. I like Ebay, just not the CEO. I say we start using some other auction site, and boycott Ebay. Teach these hypocrits a lesson.

Posted by: ebay plug | September 5, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

McCain + Palin = McPain

Posted by: srikanth | September 5, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm still waiting for the Republicans to get rid of taxes. They're just socialist tools. They've had 8 years to get rid of taxes and they still haven't. Don't they know it's the work of communisits and socilists? When will be rid of all these taxes? I'm sick and tired of paying for taxes. I'm sick of having public schools, I'm sick of having libraries, I'm tired of having police, I'm tired, tired, tired of paying for all these socialist programs.

Posted by: tax gimmick | September 5, 2008 2:09 PM

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Or... you could enlist in the military and go over to Iraq... no taxes there...

Posted by: or... | September 5, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Liberals: The inexperience Obama will say anything to advance his career and the older Biden has a history of letting his mouth run before his brain can catch up. America, these are the two so called “best” that the liberal can offer. My heart is pumped with anxiety when I think about leaving the future of this country in the hands of these stooges (Obama – Biden – Reid). I’m a former Marine and never voted before, but this time I will exercise my power and protect this country with conviction. I’m the invisible hand that steers this country. I was the “little guy” but I apply myself and don’t need to depend on big government to babysit me, and that’s the essence of being an American – we are the best! Foolish gimmick and smoke screen of the liberal - using the little guy to advance their personal agenda is beyond expression - Shameful. Hilary failed to become the first female president - Obama wants to become the first black president to secure his-story – Biden tries to redeem his failures. Three stooges – what’s in it for “we” America?

Posted by: MC08 | September 5, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't care who gets the presidency as long as my Social Security check keeps rolling in. Can't hardly afford anything and half to make many choices on what to buy or not buy. Gas or groceries or maybe our meds.

Posted by: Dolly N.Y. | September 5, 2008 1:58 PM

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I hear ya Dolly! let me ask you this though.....
What will you do when McCain privitizes Social Security? Raises you health insurance premiums and increases he cost of your meds? Best of luck to ya and keep your head above water.

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Amazing to see the name calling about socialism.

what is the issue, really? You prefer for 10's of millions of people to be without healthcare and with little education?

Where are the Christians?

How can Palin claim to be a Christian and still have a terrible education record with so few high school graduates and so few college grads in Alaska, with all that oil money to spend?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Maybe you should halfed to learned how to spell a long, long time ago and you wouldn't half to depend on the taxpayers to pay for you to live.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:59 PM

Thanks for showing the world what a typical McCain/Palin supporter possess for intelligence. Did you have the job of writing the signs at the convention? Tell you what A. How about you go back and finish grade school, learn to spell and use proper structure in writing, then come on back here and post. See you in five years!

Posted by: Poster2 | September 5, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I'm still waiting for the Republicans to get rid of taxes. They're just socialist tools. They've had 8 years to get rid of taxes and they still haven't. Don't they know it's the work of communisits and socilists? When will be rid of all these taxes? I'm sick and tired of paying for taxes. I'm sick of having public schools, I'm sick of having libraries, I'm tired of having police, I'm tired, tired, tired of paying for all these socialist programs.

Posted by: tax gimmick | September 5, 2008 2:09 PM


Do you live in an income tax free state like florida?

you can always move to the bahamas or belize. no taxes there. be creative instead of whining.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

For Jake from Little Rock,

Hey everyone wants to discuss the issues, and I agree with less government, less taxes, less regulation, guns, life, pull yourself up by your boot-straps, but the neocons never delivered, just like all the other failed ideologies the answer is not in the extreme but in compromise.

1. Less goverment with some oversight.

2. Guns with some restrictions

3. Less taxes, less spending

4. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, but there are somethings that only the government cand do.

5. Life, but respect rights and dont impose your religious beliefs on me.


Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only one confident here that Roe Vs Wade will not be overturned by ANY politician?

Life is a valuable thing I agree. But would reserve a woman's rights for day-after pills on abortion, incest, etc. I can NOT imagine ANY pointed officials to overturn Roe Vs Wade. Even if it was overturned (which I believe is when pigs fly... but I could be naive), doesn't the power get returned to the State... in which, the power is returned to the people to decide?

I have yet to see a politician w/the guts to overturn Roe Vs Wade... as it is a HUGE topic not to be messed with. What is commendable about Gov Palin is that she lives her life the pro-life way, that's her CHOICE... And there is no evidence she has taken away anyone's rights to do so.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Cut the crap....come on, you don't actually believe this? If you do, then it's a free country. You have the freedom to change your status and get into the top 5% of earnings. It's not easy making $200K plus each year so don't penalize me becuase 95% of the folks won't work as hard or won't take the risks like I have....change careers if you don't like it. At a minimum, you can share in the oil gains by buying oil stock like I did. Come on, get with the program.

Obama tax cut = 95% of America
McCain tax cut = $200 billion to corporations = 0% for America - $8 billion of which goes to Exxon Mobile

Posted by: cut the crap | September 5, 2008 2:03 PM

Posted by: Bulldog | September 5, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Marcus, get your facts straight. Palin never lied. She didn't say she sold the jet on eBay. She said she "put it on eBay," which is true.

If such rabid prejudice can alter your hearing, imagine what it does to your judgement.

Posted by: michae1 | September 5, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

george you are full of it.....how many days did you spend it a pow camp? if you are so unhappy with America in the words of a great American Lewis Grizzard.....delta is ready when you are"!
WANT SOCIALISM VOTE OBAMALINBIDEN!

Posted by: mike | September 5, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm still waiting for the Republicans to get rid of taxes. They're just socialist tools. They've had 8 years to get rid of taxes and they still haven't. Don't they know it's the work of communisits and socilists? When will be rid of all these taxes? I'm sick and tired of paying for taxes. I'm sick of having public schools, I'm sick of having libraries, I'm tired of having police, I'm tired, tired, tired of paying for all these socialist programs.

Posted by: tax gimmick | September 5, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

No, whoever posted this is a moron.. And needs to get off Obama's jock

whoever posted this is a moron and needs to get their head out of McCains butthole

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Ann and Nancy Wilson, the music duo known as Heart, sent a cease-and-desist notice to the McCain-Palin campaign Thursday afternoon after their hit "Barracuda" was used without permission during the Republican National Convention.

In an email to Entertainment Weekly, they said, "Sarah Palin's views and values in NO WAY represent us as American women. We ask that our song 'Barracuda' no longer be used to promote her image...[It] was written in the late '70s as a scathing rant against the soulless, corporate nature of the music business, particularly for women...There's irony in Republican strategists' choice to make use of it there."

Posted by: hamishdad | September 5, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

ive noticed some on this board belong to the same church as palin .....j...says the world is coming to an end anyway ..interesting. palin says its god work and will that sent us into iraq ? i thought it was bush and a panzy democratic congress .which obama opposed .

Posted by: wolverine | September 5, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

cut the crap is pure genius

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

The candidates' family should be off limits. Who cares if Palin's daughter is pregnant or if her husband got a DUI 22 years ago??? That has nothing to do with her ability to lead, the media is just trying to do anything to portray her in a bad light.
Also, I find that the accusations of her leaving her family to the care of her husband to go and campaign to be extremely insulting. Obama/Biden leave their kids at home and no one says a word... Hypocrisy anyone?

Posted by: keep away | September 5, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

what makes one think obama is a socialist? well he went to columbia then havard law, college professor, community organizer....but more importantly he admits the two most influential people in his life were his pastor and mother.....If Black Liberation Theology is not marxist....what is.....but Obama says he got off that bus......well what about his mom whom he portrays as a sweet gal from the heartland.....she hated America as much as Wright.....she was an atheist and a marxist nothing like the typical "white" woman he claimed his grandmother was....check it out Sidney Ann Duhnam.....did her thesis on the life of a blacksmith in India....just don't think he was influenced in the values he is claiming today.....remember Marxists will say and do anything.....they only see the working class as a tool to get their way! want socialism vote obamalinbiden!

Posted by: mike | September 5, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

hi I'm Jake from Little Rock. i live near cantrell road and i'm a moron

Posted by: Jake from Little Rock | September 5, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama tax cut = 95% of America
McCain tax cut = $200 billion to corporations = 0% for America - $8 billion of which goes to Exxon Mobile

Posted by: cut the crap | September 5, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

At all costs, avoid capture. If captured, continuously plan to escape. Never go down without a fight, never capitulate, never surrender. John McCain, you may be a former POW, but you are also a coward. Mavericks get fellow soldiers killed because of their inability to follow orders, or adhere to a plan. Soldiers do not care for "mavericks". They have historically, outside of enemy engagement, been a leading cause of soldiers not returning from the battlefield. Your capture was brought upon because of carelessness and stupidity. You CHOSE to agree with your captors, while others stood steadfast and paid the price. Capitulating for better treatment while a POW, is this what honor you possess. Agreeing with the enemy at a time of war makes you a traitor. How many other POWs died because they refused to morally surrender! You took the easy way out! Your wife, the mother of your children, the ultimate betrayal. And why John? She wasn't pretty enough? She required more attention to take care of her? This after all the work she put into ensuring that you would not be forgotten in your capture. Your story, John, may appear to be compelling to those who know little of honor, but to those of us who do, you sir, are nothing such! Your actions, your choices you have taken during difficult times in your life show a narcissist trait, ready and willing to sacrifice everyone and everything to ensure that your needs are attended to, Your needs! Your ego! May God help us all if for some forsaken reason you achieve highest office, for America will surely become broken beyond repair. All dynasties and empires die, history is full of examples as to why and how. America is at a threshold. The choices made now, in this present time, will determine what history will write about a Country called America, whether it's Renaissance brought about a renewal of spirit, optimism, and purpose, or whether, like the two headed snake it is rapidly becoming, chose to devour itself instead. Chose wisely! Our existence as a Nation of relevance depends upon this.

Posted by: George M | September 5, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

No, whoever posted this is a moron.. And needs to get off Obama's jock


you sound like a moron.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Instead of slinging mud, let's allow the pertinent issues to decide... I am for McCain/Palin, because:
I. I favor LESS government - I believe that everyone who can work should work. I do not believe that half of the population should live off of the backs of the other half. I think that government welfare should be done away with - that should be taken care of at the family level when possible, or within the community when the family is not able. I believe that people will help others more and in a better way if they do it instead of passing that onto the government.

II. I DO NOT think that abortion is merely a choice. It is the destruction of life - it is KILLING babies. Life DOES begin at conception. We must accept the responsibility of our actions - if you do not want the baby, there are hundreds of thousands of couples who would love the opportunity to raise the child as their own, and those same aforementioned families and communities will be very helpful with the associated costs.

III. The current most influincing factor in our economy is the cost of fuel. Diesel prices influence the cost of nearly EVERYTHING bought and sold. We must move to another source of energy, however we must act now to save our economy. Regardless of the timeframe for oil production, if we were to announce today an aggressive drilling policy, oil prices would fall overnight. Let those 3rd party speculators have a taste of falling prices, and they would leave the market with haste. (I also believe that Governor Palin will bring a great deal to the table as to our energy negotiations.)

I do not support Senator Obama because his policies are the opposite direction on all of these and other pertinent issues. This is the point of disagreement, and if one cannot win another to agreement on issues, then people become just as frustrated with the other's views as they are passionate about their own. It only further divides, however, when we attack eachother out of retribution for differing ideas. So my suggestion to us all is to investigate the issues which are our most dear and vote accordingly - yelling at eachother, calling eachother names will probably only make things worse - don't you think???

Posted by: Jake from Little Rock | September 5, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin didn't build the bridge. She didn't return the money either.

Posted by: Charles | September 5, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

how funny is this ...thompson blames the congress and calls it the most unaffective congress ..one problem Mccain calls out the republicans and tells them they blew it . people posting its congress, need to wake up..The republicans over the last 7 years created the problem not democrats .people get brain washed so quickly , doesnt anyone check the record anymore .The republicans caused this mess PERIOD. The republicans controlled all 3 branches and its the Republican policies which are not working.
TRICKLE DOWN economics has not worked , its not brain surgery .WAKE UP .

Posted by: wolverine | September 5, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

For K, LOL... re: the clips. I still like Lieberman... but I could be biased. On the words he chose for Obama vs McCain, Obama's was ummm.... more politically driven? I think you agree.

thx for the clips! I am going to stop here...

I have great respect for what I've seen of Senator McCain.

McCain/Palin '08

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Palin’s recent family experiences show the pro-life/abstinence-only philosophy in a bad light.

Posted by: Rednecks for Obama | September 5, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

To mmhmmm,

I could not have written it any better myself.

Damn all these people for adding links to news stories filled with all those doggone facts! Don't they know blogs and the Internet are only meant for people with half-baked opinions?

Posted by: samharmon | September 5, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Maybe you should halfed to learned how to spell a long, long time ago and you wouldn't half to depend on the taxpayers to pay for you to live.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

yum.

I love french fries. with incence. from belgium. or was that fish. and chips?

Posted by: voteForUrSelf | September 5, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

You know I've been reading all this crap about rights and going to war to fight for rights. How come smoker's are such bad people all of a sudden. IF Liberal's are so concerned with everybody's rights then why is smoking being banned in so many places? I'll tell you why. YOUR ALL FULL OF CRAP AND ONLY CARE ABOUT YOURSELF. YOUR A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITES. That's Why! Rights and I feel crap, and I deserve, and I think. Who Cares the end of the world is coming so we better start drilling. There's no amount of money available to spend that will ever save the world. The end of the world is destiny!

Posted by: LJ | September 5, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Lieberman is the senator from Connecticut, which has the greatest income disparity in the country. Their very wealthy elites got that way by keeping the money you pay them hold for if you get sick. Many of their poor don't have any insurance at all, and they drive each other's salaries down by competing for each other's jobs in the service sector which serves the pepole who took your insurance premiums home with them.
Democrats would like to change this arrangement. A fact that may have something to do with Lieberman's odd behaviour.
Well, the love of money is the root of all evil.

Posted by: Charles | September 5, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't care who gets the presidency as long as my Social Security check keeps rolling in. Can't hardly afford anything and half to make many choices on what to buy or not buy. Gas or groceries or maybe our meds.

Posted by: Dolly N.Y. | September 5, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Hey Liberal BS - get your facts right. The Democrats have controlled congress for the last 2 years, not 4. And the Republicans have controlled congress for 12 of the last 16 years. So, as I see it, the Republicans are asking to be sent to Washington to clean up the mess they created. Quit swallowing the right-wing misinformation and truly look at the facts.

Posted by: mjj | September 5, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

whoever posted this is a moron -


No, whoever posted this is a moron.. And needs to get off Obama's jock

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

hi i'm mike from virginia and i'm a moron

Posted by: mike | September 5, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse


We are told of "brain dead emotional driven liberal spout" by those who forget Democrats have been in control for the last eight years. Actually, the Republicans have had control, from 2000-2006. The Democrats were only in control for 2 years, but with a razor-thin 51-49 margin in the Senate (if you include Joe Lieberman).

It is interesting to see someone frothing with irrational anger project his or her remarkable ignorance onto those who dare to disagree with him.

Posted by: charles lewis | September 5, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey Mike, Can you say "deregulation".

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Corruption or the appearance of corruption is apparently not a problem for John McCain or the GOP. A bipartisan Alaskan state legislative panel has appointed a special prosecutor to investigate Palin in an abuse of power scandal. An ongoing investigation of any type would normally be a no-brainer in the elimination of a candidate in any vetting process.

Posted by: Rednecks for Obama | September 5, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

wolverine....

Palin is prolife in all cases including incense????? Oh no!

Posted by: ha | September 5, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

SOCIALISM SUCKS!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Obama will run this country into the ground. Mark my word. Don't you think if "alternative fuel sources" were so easy to "come by we'd have already had them in place. For heaven's sakes, we develop ethanol and what happens? Corn prices go up. Bio fuels? Same thing. The only logical solution is to drill, and drill deep and often in addition to our search for a viable alternative energy source. Will that not help our economy? Is the price of fuel not what is most hurting American families? Wake up folks.. Obama will do nothing to solve our problems..."


whoever posted this is a moron

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Jim in VA, well said, but stop making so much sense, they will start calling you an elitist.

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

hey jim in va, vote for obama and say good by to the money you have in the bank and then when you go to get a loan the interest will prob be 20%....have you already forgotten the carter years...Romney was the only one with the experience and brains to get this economy back on track......but it is not near as bad ad the left says it is......and it was the dems who wanted people to buy homes that could least afford it.....the mortgage mess....just think what they will do with the health care....by by $$$$$$ and lousy healthcare too boot! WANT SOCIALISM VOTE OBAMALINBIDEN

Posted by: mike | September 5, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Economist, I studied economics in school...based on my memory aren't economics based on strategy? Hope is good, but hope isn't a strategy. Your comments regarding hope contradict your career joice. I also have two children and there's no way I want Obama taking over at this moment. I'm not opposed to him but I want more leadership examples from him before turning over our great country.

Posted by: Missourineutral | September 5, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

I think it's sad that all of these people are posting links to all of these news sites... can't you guys see that the media is freaking out because their beloved Obama might not win? They are trying to dig up whatever they can to keep Obama from losing...which he will anyway.

Posted by: mmhmm | September 5, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

As Bill Clinton's analogy goes "who would you vote for these 2 candidates X & Y... where X, you agree on everything but knew he CANNOT deliver and Y who you may half-agree on what he said but knew he CAN deliver".
Folks, it doesn't take to be a rocket scientist to figure out the best candidate for our country. Records speak louder than words.

Posted by: jeri | September 5, 2008 1:42 PM

-------------------------
Here is another Clinton gem for ya...one a little more accurate....
Bill Clinton in 2004:
"Now one of Clinton's Laws of Politics is
this: If one candidate's trying to scare
you and the other one's trying to get you
to think; if one candidate's appealing to
your fears and the other one's appealing
to your hopes, you better vote for the
person who wants you to think and hope.
That's the best."
(I wonder which candidates best fit into that analogy? Especially given the previous quote)

Posted by: feastorafamine@yahoo.com | September 5, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

palin resume ...she is pro-life in all cases ( including rape / incence .)

she has advocated banning books she doesnt agree with.

she was mayor of 9000 people.....managed 50 people .
she attends conventions of the AIP ...which her husband is still a member.

Posted by: wolverine | September 5, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

John McCain and Sarah Palin are so dishonest. Here is the link to the article from Factcheck.org that was circulated on the web on September 4th.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/157206/page/1

Read this and then think that John McCain, Sarah Palin and the Republicans are so honest. They are dishonest and will make up anything to win. Barack for President.

Posted by: RadianChalant | September 5, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Obama is a sissy that will turn us into France

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse

"You can go look at Obama's State Senate legislative record and his US Senate record. At last count, he has sponsorship of 820 laws in Illinois, and authorship of 152 bills and co-sponsorship of 427 in Washington including the 2007 Ethics Reform Bill a sweeping bill that effected real change in Washington government corruption." McCain and Palin are spewing rhetoric on this front.

Senator Obama graduated from Columbia University majoring in political science and international relations, and graduated magna cum laude from Harvard law School with expertise in United States Constitutional Law. He taught constitutional law for 10 years at the University of Chicago and served as the director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago and grew the budget from 70,000 to 400,000.

Palin, dogmatic, uneducated and arrogant lobbyist earmakr queen , who went to 6 colleges in 5 years, sort of majored in journalism, entered politics 10 years ago and refuses to post her policies anywhere, was a mayor of 7,000 people( about a high school) for a few years and she has been a small town governor ( total of 115,000 votes) for ABOUT ONE YEAR. She is under investigation for several accounts of abuse of power. Ring any bells?

McCain disagreed with her overuse of lobbyist earmarks. She is known for trying to censor books, keeping employees quiet, creationism ( not what our vets fought for) being against womens rights, abuse of power with 4 vetoes in 1 YEAR and getting people fired that disagreed with her, attempts at nuclear proliferation, Alaska independence movement.

He was elected Senator by a majority of the 14 million people who live in Illinois, ( more than 150,000 for Palin) is fair, educated and does not have the dangerous temper McCain is known for.

He will be a leader that will bring America back through peace and understanding not BULLYING and THREATENING WITH GUNS, ARROGANCE AND THREATS.

We should all be very afraid of the possibility of McCain or Palin as President. Our democratic freedoms are at stake.

Posted by: mamabear | September 5, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

It is not the NFL, NBA or MLB it is your future. Think as one …
Because come November it is the most decisive vote you would have cast in your life. It good to keep in mind that we need to help ourselves because we do have big brothers in big places.

Posted by: Tony | September 5, 2008 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Hey TLB, just reading down to your 70's comment. I'm pretty sure the decline was due to the rest of the world recovering from WWII particularly the Japanese and beating the living daylights out of our mfg sector. In fact that has pretty much been going on since the 70's and none of the new gov programs have helped. We saw a nice upswing with the tech boom and then another nice upswing because we just decided to spend until we are broke (gov and citizens).

Posted by: John | September 5, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Obama will run this country into the ground. Mark my word. Don't you think if "alternative fuel sources" were so easy to come by we'd have already had them in place. For heaven's sakes, we develop ethanol and what happens? Corn prices go up. Bio fuels? Same thing. The only logical solution is to drill, and drill deep and often in addition to our search for a viable alternative energy source. Will that not help our economy? Is the price of fuel not what is most hurting American families? Wake up folks.. Obama will do nothing to solve our problems....

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

AR said: "I hope the emails that call for killing Obama (or anyone) are being forwarded to the FBI." ..... I agree. threats, racism, and sexism is not needed.

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

folks if you really think billary are supporting obama....you need to redefine "is".....if you recall Hillary was a "proud American, proud mother" heck proud everything else accept a PROUD WIFE!....but she is smart....she saw what happened to Gore when he divorced bill....good thing he invented the internet or we wouldnt be havin so much fun!

Posted by: mike | September 5, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Every time I hear/read some brain-dead emotion-driven liberal spout their typical BS about how bad the past 8 years has been I am reminded that it has been the Democrats who have been ruling Congress. Do your own head count if you don't believe my words.

Public polls have shown approval ratings for the Democrat-controlled congress as low as 9% recently, and the numbers generally run about half of the "hated" George Bush. Get a clue, folks.

Here's a list of good things that have been done in the Congress during the past four years of Democratic control:

1.

That's all I can list for you. Maybe some of you liberal BSers can add to the list. That is my challenge to you.

Posted by: Liberal BS Everwhere We Look | September 5, 2008 1:41 PM

-------------------------------------
Thank you! Wow someone who has some sense!
Speaking of people who don't do anything in Washington... How about Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid? You will never see ANYTHING about that stuff on CNN or MSNBC...

Posted by: Yes | September 5, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous:

Sarah Palin was the only woman showing cleavage at the conventions because she just had a baby and is most likely still lactating. You can't keep those puppies under wrap easily. They just bust out all over the place. Besides, you are only one complaining. You must be a woman. Sour grapes, my dear?

Posted by: clementine | September 5, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm white, over 50, married, college educated and fairly successful. Got a family, kids, and finally, even some money in the bank. When I was in college Raegan was president. I was taught, and I believed, in trickle-down economics. I didn't like Bill (in the beginning,) but I really don't like George.

I've watched this country-- a country that I love-- begin to decline. Much of that decline I blame on the current administration and on the president's inability to reconsider a decision. His inability to simply consider the fact that he may have been wrong.

John McCain is, without a doubt, a true American hero. Who can help but not be proud of him. We can listen to his story, but very few of us can really know what he felt and experienced when held captive in Vietnam. No arguments there. I'd love to meet him and would be proud to know him.

All that aside, I will absolutely, positively vote for Barack Obama on November 4th. I can not-- under any circumstances-- take the chance that McCain will continue the misguided policies of George Bush. I also will not help to elect Sarah Palin to a position that puts her just a single heartbeat (a 73 year old heartbeat, by the way) away from being handed the most powerful political office in the world.

I like Obama. I like the fact that he actually gives thought to something before declaring his position. I like the fact that he's not against reconsidering a position if new facts come to light. I like a guy who, when asked when life begins, is smart enough to know he's not God so he quips that answering the question is 'above his pay grade.' He's right. It is. It's above ALL our pay grades. He wasn't asked his opinion as to when life begins. He was simply asked, "When does life begin." There's a big difference.

Life has taught me that as unique and individual as we each believe ourselves to be, it's really a very rare thing for any of us to be truly unique. There are always others who feel the way we do, who do the things we do, etc. I truly believe that on November 4th, we're going to see a political uprising in this country. People such as myself are going to step in that booth, cross their fingers, and vote for Obama.

Guess we'll see if I'm right on Nov. 5th.

Posted by: Jim in VA | September 5, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

even though i am a democrat by heart, i have to admit and admire that mcain is a completely upstanding (democratic) candidate: his devotion, views, and non-partisan politics cannot be denied. However, even as he remains a maverick (even in his own party), we have to be careful of the election. With mcain will come the conservative party of Bush to continue the policies of the last 8 years--even if mcain does not like it (remember that palin (staunch conservative republican) was not really mcain's choice; it was the choice of the GOP). A vote for mcain is certainly compelling, but it brings a lot of baggage.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

BTW, "his" lawyer friends as in Obama's lawyer friends.

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I hope the emails that call for killing Obama (or anyone) are being forwarded to the FBI.

Posted by: AR | September 5, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

For K, no... actually, I didn't know, so I won't comment on that until I look it up.

What I DO know, is that Lieberman, Hillary, and Biden all three said they've known McCain for a long time... and respects him greatly. I know what you must think of Lieberman... but I think he stood by his friend b/c he feels his friend is better qualified. Hard to see why he needs to be crucified for that. He went against his party, and is called a traitor. But if he went against is deep believe in his friend, would you rather have that? Now, if the Democrats had a BETTER more qualified candidate (uh hum... Hillary)... then perhaps you wouldn't see all these humbling and nice things being said about McCain... as a PERSON (not political views here).

and another thing I DO know, is his lawyer friend had housing favors b/c of the ties and strings he had in Chicago also. Admittedly, he's a nice young guy... but lots of political pulls. I really could careless about it, BUT I hate it when people don't do anything... yet they'll demand that they deserve more.

that's all for now. Going to lunch.

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm voting for Palin because she and her daughter have great tits and you know they put out.

Posted by: Luv Bush | September 5, 2008 1:38 PM

Pretty funny, still voting Obama.

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes a pilot gets shot down and shows heroism. Sometimes he's just a bad pilot with bad judgement. Getting caught and tortured do not make you a hero. Nor does claiming service to your country makes you worthy of this office.Standing in a ditch and throwing mud does not excuse your lack of a plan. Endless sniping and complaining just shows us all how weak you are at uniting the nation. We saw Bush \Rove do all this before and we'll be paying for that mistake for the next 50 years. Terrorism is this generations Communism. It's what the weak minded, power-hungry and greedy use to scare you so you don't see what they've really done with the power and trust you gave them.

Posted by: repost | September 5, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: for K | September 5, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

A star is what gives light and can lead you to some place like it did for the three wise men who found Jesus , and Columbus and other discoverers. Sarah Palin is No Star.She is more like a black hole that you are puzzled by because you do not know what is in there or what you will find or get if you go in there. Her tongue is caustic, her intellect shallow, her integrity questionable based on the conflicting accounts of her actions.John Mccain had promised a different kind of campaign, as a white man when I observe that Cheney is in Georgia instead of at the GOP Convention, George Bush stayed away and so did many other senators and congressmen it is a signal to me that their confidence in Mccain to lead this country is lacking and convinces me that my vote for Obama is best for this Country.

Posted by: samiael | September 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a man that can be trusted--not Obama. He may not deliver his message as well as his opponent, but McCain's words are heartfelt and I believe what he is saying...he will do what is right for this country. Wake up America! Vote McCain-Palin!

Posted by: McCain-Palin Rock! | September 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

McCain has established himself to be the best choice for P.O.W. of the U.S.
Palin has convinced me she would be right at home in the P.T.A. She's also made me glad I don't go to kids' hockey games where I would apparently see ridiculous displays of rabid pit bull fighting mom's wearing pit bull lipstick. She's proud to be one of those, you know. She might even want to participate in an out-of-control, extreme political debate on the Jerry Springer show, but she can't use nukes until she gets into the white house.

Or we could just put the democrats back into the white house and act like sane, mature , adults who know how to solve problems.

Posted by: Charles | September 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Truman was a dem, the last time i checked....but it was Johnson's war and the coward didn't even run for reelection which he would have prob won.....he just wanted to wash his hands with it!

Posted by: mike | September 5, 2008 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Bush went awol for 2 yrs during the vietnam war. point for Obama

Posted by: JohnKachenmeister | September 5, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

AND...FINALLY! Thank you Marcus for bringing a FOCUS and PERSPECTIVE to the nonesensical discussions going on here. HOPE is what every HUMAN being looks forward to. From America all the way to Myanmar to Australia to Africa! We Hope, we wait, we are either utterly disappointed or nicely suprised. As of now, the only DIM hope is in OBAMA/BIDEN.

Posted by: SF49 | September 5, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: for K | September 5, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

As Bill Clinton's analogy goes "who would you vote for these 2 candidates X & Y... where X, you agree on everything but knew he CANNOT deliver and Y who you may half-agree on what he said but knew he CAN deliver".
Folks, it doesn't take to be a rocket scientist to figure out the best candidate for our country. Records speak louder than words.

Posted by: jeri | September 5, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: for K | September 5, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Every time I hear/read some brain-dead emotion-driven liberal spout their typical BS about how bad the past 8 years has been I am reminded that it has been the Democrats who have been ruling Congress. Do your own head count if you don't believe my words.

Public polls have shown approval ratings for the Democrat-controlled congress as low as 9% recently, and the numbers generally run about half of the "hated" George Bush. Get a clue, folks.

Here's a list of good things that have been done in the Congress during the past four years of Democratic control:

1.

That's all I can list for you. Maybe some of you liberal BSers can add to the list. That is my challenge to you.

Posted by: Liberal BS Everwhere We Look | September 5, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

hi i'm nammmm and i'm a moron


get youre fact straight

Posted by: nammmm | September 5, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

sorry i mean 2006

Posted by: for K | September 5, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: for K | September 5, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

McCain went to Vietnam, and did his duty. The duty he had to do was that which I thank God I did not have to suffer. Many so-called Americans shirked their duty to serve, and many others, mostly Democrats, openly betrayed the country. Point for McCain.

Obama first said that he would "Roll back the Bush tax cuts." That is Democrat-speak for "Raise Taxes." Point for McCain.

Obama says he wants the government to run health care, since it has done such a good job eliminating poverty and running the post office. Anybody who has gone to a VA hospital knows this is a really bad idea. Point for McCain.

How many more points does one need?

Posted by: JohnKachenmeister | September 5, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Since when do Americans sneer at "Community Organizers".

A few famous ones come to mind - MLK, Morher Theresa, Jesus Christ among them.

Come to think of it what did THE FOUNDERS DO before the revolution. They COMMUNITY ORGANIZED.

Posted by: Jon | September 5, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

SF49: I know you want to feel all smart and fancy...but, what 20%? I don't remember saying 20% of anything. I know I'm old and forgetsome, but...huh???

Posted by: TLB | September 5, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

This McCain war hero thing reminds me of a Simpson's episode when the "real" principal Skinner is back home from a POW camp.
the "real" principal Skinner is rejected by the entire Springfield, including his own mother. Mrs Skinner tells him "you just aren't what I am looking for in a son" The episode ends with a parade honoring his service and sending him away from Springfiled.
Let's honor McCain for his service and select the best candidate for the job. He just is not what I are looking for in a president.

Posted by: Sona | September 5, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

"My main concern is where the economy goes....so if you're a financially hurting american you should probably vote Obama. McCain votes against any financial aid to anyone in need.....ask any victim of Katrina. However....if war is your thing, vote McCain....because he's spent 5 years in a box...and he's ready to get even."

Posted by: MilesMode | September 5, 2008 12:59 PM

giving financial aid to "hurting americans" does not fix the economy. That's like taking Advil if you have a broken arm. I agree that "hurting americans" need assistance, but we need to treat the sickness not the symptoms and frankly, I'm wary of anyone who has solutions for symptoms. I think in the end the Republican platform, which basically enables the capitalistic economy to help itself will be the best in the long run, but we are going to continue to be "hurting americans" until that happens.

Posted by: CRUZBUSTAMANTE | September 5, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I just saw this link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/04/cbsnews_investigates/main4415886.shtml

The video of the soldier's funeral from the RNC was fake, and all the soldiers in it were actors!

Once again, it proves that they have become the party of smoke and mirrors.

Posted by: grey | September 5, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Get the record straight.....the dems got us into Nam....remember JFK...with the advisors...and then Johnson with massive troops....it was the Republicans that got us out.....go back to ww2 and Korea....again then democrats....elect Obamalinbiden and you will see a return of the draft....will they draft women....well the dems are equal opportunists! Bush 1 sent troops to free Kuwait....Bush 2 took out Saddam because he thumbed his nose all the UN requirements of the treaty that he was not obeying....he thought he was in with the UN for all his payoffs.....point of interest regarding history of our nation.....less than 20% of the colonists supported the revolution! Look it up!

Posted by: nammmm | September 5, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I'm voting for Palin because she and her daughter have great tits and you know they put out.

Posted by: Luv Bush | September 5, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

McCain's POW experience is one of the most heroic tales that I've ever heard, and it underscores his great character. That said, his rash and reckless choice of an unvetted running mate, his bellicose view of America's place in the world and his complete incompetence and lack of interest in economics in these perilous times leads me, an old white guy, to support with all the enthusiasm I can muster Barack Obama

Posted by: bill | September 5, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Obama will use up his time up at the debates with his usual uh uh uh ah ah ah um um um um um. This is how he ducks the answers.

Posted by: Kim | September 5, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

For Reagan Democrat,

Actually it was Harry Truman who first began supporting the French in Vietnam and Dwight Eisehhower who upped the stakes by increasing the financial support and introducing U.S. "advisors" into that country.

Vietnam stretched through six presidencies--three Democrats and three Republicans. There's plenty of blame to go around.

Posted by: samharmon | September 5, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Reagan Dem: Yes, you are right, the war got started in the Kennedy Administration. Wow, you got me there. Not like he ever got bad advice from the military(Bay of Pigs). Nixon, turned the tide? Wait, did we...win? Cause I don't remember that....I remember turning tail and running when we realized we couldn't turn back the oncoming forces. Ford, another Republican, followed the lead of Nixon, but couldn't get out of the way of his own feet, let alone run the country on his own. If you want to sling mud at Carter, that's fine. But he was focused on freeing those hostages without any death (we'd seen enough), and he's done more for this country and human rights than any other of those presidents.

Posted by: TLB | September 5, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Hope is not a strategy"?
I've been an economist almost all my life. The job of President is not about wars or find terrorists or any of the issues. It's to provide hope to the people. With hope that things will get better you will relax and spend. With hope you will work for your childrens future. With hope you can love your nieghbor more easily. HOPE is not A strategy. It is THE strategy...for prosperity, for peace, for love.
If you want to find your candidate listen for hope. Not retoric. Not mud slinging. Not fear and division. If you hope the war goes on. If you hope McCain keeps doing what Bush did. If you hope America continues to go further into debt for your children, then you know what you should do. personally I need a future where war is abolished in favor of cooperation. I need a future where attack dog politicians are swatted at the first comment. I need a place where my children aren't burdened by another mans bad decisions. Until someone better comes along that hope lies with Obama.

Posted by: Marcus | September 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I'm just wondering why Governor Palin was the only woman showing cleavage in the convention hall. Is it an Alaska thing, a Republican thing or a vice-presidential thing? Come to think of it, I don't remember Cheney ever showing cleavage or Gore, either, although I'm sure they both have some.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

To No Holes Barred:

You forgot to tell us your political affiliation. Just what were the names of those books Palin wanted removed and why?
Were they Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer or some junk put out by Planned Parenthood (oral sex, Homosexual and bi-sexual sex, beastiality) or one of their cover groups?
Was it censorship or was it good taste!

You certainly have a lot of time to write. It is so easy to blast someone who has done something when you sit around doing nothing. Sarah Palin obviously was too much of a talent for Wasilla and Alaska. Good thing she has moved on.

That part about doing some ruthless deeds to get to be point guard--they won the state championship didn't they? You never told us what she did--pull the competition's hair, or put anthrax in their mailbox?

Lots of innuendos, my dear. The police chief refused to fire her ex-brother in law? I don't live in Wasilla but I know her brother in law threatened to kill her father who was that great teacher your kids just loved, drank in his patrol car, and hit his 11 year old with a tazer gun, didn't he? Talk about a good ol boy club!

She remodeled her office? Was that sixties wood paneling and the lineoleum floor just not good enough for her?

At least she tried to build something for the kids when she built the Sports Center, and I imagine that the next biggest sport in Wasilla is sex, given what small town life can be like. Even her own daughter fell prey to it.

Posted by: Clementine | September 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

McBush/Palin, More of the Same.
McBush/Palin, More of the Same.
McBush/Palin, More of the Same.
McBush/Palin, More of the Same.
McBush/Palin, More of the Same.

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse


I'm just wondering why Governor Palin was the only woman showing cleavage in the convention hall. Is it an Alaska thing, a Republican thing or a vice-presidential thing? Come to think of it, I don't remember Cheney ever showing cleavage or Gore, either, although I'm sure they both have some.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

All the comments about what these candidates are going to do about health, energy costs etc. None of that is the governments biz - everytime they get involved the make things more difficult for biz in this country. Look at sarbanes-oxley what a joke. Why would we want people telling us how to live our lives when they don't have a clue. Give me a candidate that says he is going to let the market sort those items out and begin the process of dismantling these huge gov programs and lower taxes (look at Ireland if you want to see the impact of that strategy)

Posted by: john | September 5, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama coming to Palin's defense? Its called talking points not character. He is peeing on our shoes and telling us its raining.

Posted by: dawn | September 5, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm just wondering why Governor Palin was the only woman showing cleavage in the convention hall. Is it an Alaska thing, a Republican thing or a vice-presidential thing? Come to think of it, I don't remember Cheney ever showing cleavage or Gore, either, although I'm sure they both have some.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, McCain disserted his wife! =D

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm just wondering why Governor Palin was the only woman showing cleavage in the convention hall. Is it an Alaska thing, a Republican thing or a vice-presidential thing? Come to think of it, I don't remember Cheney ever showing cleavage or Gore, either, although I'm sure they both have some.

Posted by: onlyonehouse | September 5, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

TLB: you're so WRONGGGGG!!!! You think you are proving it wrong. Where the h..ll did you pull the 20% out of?
Department of Labor(Let's hope these guys aren't lying to us and they are not infilterated by Bin Laden's men either) has the stats for each year since the eary teens. Go read and get educated and don't throw fake numbers to the readers:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt


only time of double digit unemployment was when reagan was prez

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Kel,

You're a moron. They have shared their story. You're just never listened to it. It's a much story than McCain's. Want to know what McCain's real story is. McCain married, wife gets in a car wreck become crippled, McCain cheats on wife with Millionaire Cindy McCain, McCain disserts wife and marries millionaire so McCain can persue his politial ambitions. True Story. Where's that part of the story Johnny.

Posted by: for Kel | September 5, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Hi my name is Aurora and i'm a moron

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I never thought I'd be saying this: But it seems like McCain is the one who is trying to create a cult of personality based on emotion, sympathy, and vague optimism. I listened to the whole convention, and all of their ideas could be reduced to one-line zingers with no substance beyond their initial laugh factor.

(One example: Palin and Giuliani joked about how being mayor is harder than being President... and it was a funny joke... but then they turned around and acted as if this joke proves Palin is ready to be VP. It's a joke. But this is the strongest evidence either of them gave in favor of Palin's readiness!!! A joke!!! Used to prove a serious point with life and death consequences for each and every one of us!!!! Same thing about her joke about hockey moms being like pit bulls! A joke! A funny one, too. But if you ask for real examples of decisions that Palin has made with national security implications, they play the gender card, call you a sexist!)

Meanwhile Obama has a firm, detailed grasp on policy, current events, and the needs of the American people.

If you asked me a year ago, I would have imagined it would be the other way around. But today, the McCain/Palin ticket reeks of empty promises, clever rhetoric, and slick biography. I always imagined that McCain was detail-oriented, smart, and a sophisticated thinker... but his campaign offers no evidence to support this. I am very disappointed.

Posted by: grey | September 5, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse


Now even Oprah has caved to the sexist Obama campaign. She is refusing to have Palin on her show.

I guess Oprah likes being called 'sweetie'.

Posted by: julia | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Reagan Democrat | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Dr Jack, learn to spell and we'll listen

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Republican or Democrat? Conservative or Liberal? Simple questions, hard to answer. McCain & Obama are neither good choices for President. I've listened to both intensively and all they want is to win and could care less how they do it. Joe Biden and Sarah Palin were chosen by them to be their VP choice because of their qualifications, GET VOTES! Biden is a career DC infected politician, just like McCain, but has the political knowledge and expertise to screw up Obama, and he'll listen because he's naive and clueless. Palin has no DC experience, but is not clueless to executive decisions. She's alredy proven she is head strong to Alaska and as the first woman VP McCain knows that she will be in the spotlight and McCain has only old tricks to pass on. Won't work! Sarah Palin is a Mom and all us guys know you don't pull anything over on Mom. In all fairness we can look at the past and criticize democrats and republicans for a lousy, horrible, what's in it for me job of running this country, especially Bush Jr. I am looking ahead, not 4, not 8, but 20 years in the future. I see real substance in Sarah Palin. A real grab the bull by the horns and shake the hell out of DC attitude and a person with youth, gumption and aggressiveness that could make this happen over the next 16 years that will carry on in the future. DC MUST be reformed before the country can or "For the people, by the people" means nothing.............Oh I guess it already does.

Posted by: LJ | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

The French have an unemployment rate of 13%. Most of Europe is above 8.5%. Even at 6.1 its not that bad. Also I would say 3% of the 6.1% is actually people who don't want to work and are lazy bums. I can name a few of my friends that are in that category. They are not young either. Also the people who are unemployed are becasue prices went up for businesses because of the democrats belief in subsidies for corn based ethanol. Corn is in everything and now farmers are growing fuel because the government gives them more money for it if it becomes fuel. Thanks Nancy Pelosi. Cows eat corn, so milk goes up. Most sugars in food are from corn so everything with sugar goes up. You Dems are really stupid if you can't figure it out. Bush sucks I agree but he is not a real conservative. So don't argue with me about Bush because McCain is different. His record which you obviously don't look up is not partisan at all. Palin is hot. I don't care about the vice president. I would rather them have no experience than be an insider like Dick Cheney and Joe Biden. Joe Biden is the one that will tell Barack what to do. It's funny how the black man who is suppossed to save America went out and picked someone who has been in the government since 71 and is a raging racist. It's like an old dog going back to his abusive master.

Posted by: France | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

TLB: you're so WRONGGGGG!!!! You think you are proving it wrong. Where the h..ll did you pull the 20% out of?
Department of Labor(Let's hope these guys aren't lying to us and they are not infilterated by Bin Laden's men either) has the stats for each year since the eary teens. Go read and get educated and don't throw fake numbers to the readers:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/data/UNRATE.txt

Posted by: SF49 | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

>>Directed toward the comments of Jerry Wayne Wilson
It makes me truly sad and disgusted that we can't have a civil political discussion. Is there really a need to threaten the life of Sen. Obama? If an opinion different from yours makes you homicidal, than you really need to seek professional help. Open discussion and different opinions are the kinds of things that advance our country, not threaten it. Remarks like your are not helpful in any way. Let's try to take the high road, as both candidates have done in their convention speeches, and have a political discussion rather than cage match.

Posted by: Kayla | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama's economic policy: Raise taxes not because it brings in more revenue but because its "fair", give tax rebates to people who don't pay taxes and who already get earned income tax credit and call it a "tax cut" for 80% of the population, Create more jobs through government sponsored projects and increasing size of government in general. Increase corporate tax rates so that jobs keep getting cut and we came blame mean ol capitalism.

Obama's healthcare policy: Universal health insurance for everybody. Smoke, drink, do drugs, eat poorly, whatever feels good, don't worry, the government will pick up your doctor bill and we can just keep on taxing.

Obama's foreign policy: Bring home troops now when we are close to acheiving our goals in Iraq. Also, meet with dictators and sponsors of terrorism unconditionally. Cut military spending and make sure terrorists are read their rights. Oh, and no listening in on cell conversations. Turn over more of our national security to the U.N. where terrorist states have the biggest voting bloc and who always votes against the United States.

Obama's plan on education: Keep sending more money to the government schools (aka Teachers Unions) and continue the decline in academics. But as long as they understand that the U.S is BAD, no one is smarter than the next kid and that being GLBT is perfectly normal alternative lifestyle then we can keep democrats in power for ever because the less you know, better for democrats.

Maybe he'll reward his communist, marxists, anti-american, terrorist, hate whitey friends and mentors to cabinet positions.

Obamas plan for the United States of America: "Join me in changing America" Change indeed. No thanks Obama.

Posted by: dawn | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Gary, come on...you gotta come back with something better than that. Of coarse Sarah moving up the ranks quick, hell she's one of the few people in Alaska with electricity and a college degree. Your just pissed Hillary can't go toe to toe with her. You just want a cat fight, you know... hair pulling and that kind of stuff. Let's put my old man McCain in a cage with your boy and let them fight it out.

Posted by: Missourineutral | September 5, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Bob, worry about the Queen of England and not our presidential election... You Canadians should follow suit and revolt.... Aye?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Hi my name is Barack Obama and I'm a moron...

Posted by: Barack Obama | September 5, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

A quote from my favorite leader of all time is "if the blind lead the bilnd they will fall in a ditch." Most of these comments demonstrate that those posting them do not have a clue. It would be nice, if just once, to see people investigate the cnadidate's positions before they come out swinging.

Posted by: Dr Jack | September 5, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Two things:
Is it me, or did folks miss McCain's statement that he will fix corruption in Washington ? Who's there now anyways ? His party.

Secondly, I think Obama is to be respected for coming to Palin's defence, saying that politician's kids were off limits. He did not have to say that, but this is indicative of his character.

Posted by: Bob in Canada | September 5, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

K,

Did you know Fred Thompson is part of the reason for the first Housing crisis, back in the 80s when Reagan was president by the way, They deregulated the saving and loans banks which was part of what caused the crsis? The same way the deregualted it today. Thanks Republicans. One disaster after another.

Posted by: for K | September 5, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will be an excellent vice president. To all Democrats stop being so critical. Ask your self what have you done for your country? She had served Alaska as a Mayor and Governor it might not be a big thing from you guys, but she still served.

Posted by: GisGd | September 5, 2008 1:09 PM
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Yea she served... and she tried to separate her state from America, what a great American she is!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that the Dems are complaining about the emphasis on the biography of John, Cindy and Sarah. I think the Republicans should challenge Obama, Michelle and Joe to share their STORY - that is IF they even HAVE one to share.

Posted by: Kel | September 5, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

For K,
"Are you serious? Friends. Yeah I saw his friends. The CEO of Ebay, CEO of HP, Joe Lieberman, Fred Thompson? What a joke." ... I am seriously missing the joke.

and I am honest in what I've said... not intended to be cruel. However, it seems that your remark is poking something at me ... and I can't get a hand on what it is exactly. Sort of a snide comeback right?

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

TLB--Kennedy got us into Vietnam, Johnson vested us with increasing troop strengths, Nixon increased bombing and turned the tide of the fight, he was impeached because of Watergate and Ford took us out. It was the Carter economic policies of the 1976 thru 1980 that was the double-digit inflation/double digit unemployment. Know your history!!!

Posted by: Reagan Democrat | September 5, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

ROFL @ David Sutton!!!

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is TW Stone and i'm a moron

Posted by: TW Stone | September 5, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Hey So Deceived, so do a little research and maybe you won't be So Deceived anymore. Obama was referring to BIRTH CONTROL, not abortion, in that quote, and Republicans are posting an outright lie all over the place. I'm sick of it. I'll challenge ya: Find the original context by googling and you'll see. Don't be lazy and accept what you see posted without checking it out. All you need to do is use your research and critical reading skills, and you can stop being So Deceived.

Posted by: Cindy | September 5, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

what idiotic stuff on this.....mccain/palin will be the end of the country.....with a dem do nothing congress....don't think so.....people really hate bush....maybe the radical muslims are just loving us too much to attack us.....we or maybe just some of us Americans have a short memory....oh....it was an inside job.....not the radical muslims....saddam just paid to kill innocent israeli people....he only killed his own people...if it weren't for Limbaugh and Fox news we would be socialists today....and if cnn had been at omaha beach.....the french would be speaking german today!

Posted by: mike | September 5, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

"McCain/Palin - Proven ethics, leadership, experience and judgement to work for the American people to do what's needed and just to keep America strong, secure and prosperous for ALL."

Between them both -- I see 16 years of American unity, leadership, growth, security and prosperity. Aaaaaa-men.

Note: California and Nevada -- please do your job and dump Pelosi and Reid [respectively].

Posted by: mr_wizard | September 5, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

SOME ONE STAND UP FOR AMERICA AND KILL THE ARAB BLACK ASS, BEFOR HE HAS US KILLED...WAKE UP...SOMERONE STAND UP FOR AMERIUCA, WE TAKE CARE OF YOUR FAMILY...COUNT ON US NOT THE ARAB.......DAVID

Posted by: DAVID SUTTON | September 5, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Palin's daughter is hot kids have sex that's the way it is.

Obama's a hack vote white

Posted by: Me | September 5, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

TO ALL SANE PEOPLE WHO WILL LISTEN!
1. Bush is not running for office
2. McCain is not Bush
3. Clearly McCain is a man of true character ( unlike others )
4. Mr. Obama is a great and powerful speaker, but nothing will change the fact that he is a junior senator with little exerience(running a campaign doesn't count because people won't say no to you in a campaign that you own)
5. McCain Palin are real people that don't need hollywood back drops or stadiums filled with idealistic wishful thinkers, what you see is what you get with these two.

So if you want to wish for something better or actually ACT on it, the real candidate is McCain, and while Obama is truly a great speaker, it is not his time, YET.

Vote your heart, vote your wallet, vote for your country, vote for your family, vote for anything other than your age group or the color of your skin. America is far to important to let a rockstar-like guru strut into office.

Posted by: TW Stone | September 5, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

"I lived next to his lawyer friends... before Obama ran for Senate... and all I heard from his friends is how Obama will campaign. I worked w/his friends wives at the UofC Hosp... and all she can say is I deserve more." .... Clarification: "I" as in she deserves more... and her job (though very well paid 6 digits) is not good enough for her.

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

K,

Are you serious? Friends. Yeah I saw his friends. The CEO of Ebay, CEO of HP, Joe Lieberman, Fred Thompson? What a joke.

Posted by: for K | September 5, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

McCain gave a great speech last night. However one issue I would like to bring up was when he said he turned down being sent home early by his captors because there was a code that said the ones there the longest get to go home first. The captors wanted the prisoners to sign a paper stating how America is wrong about the war and they were responsible for war crimes etc. It was the signing of this letter that John McCain opposed to signing that kept him from leaving early.

Posted by: raisingArizona | September 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Palin - "media elite". Are you kidding me, she was a sportscaster who never made it to anchor and then got sidetracked by family. She is going after the exact thing she wanted to become. This woman is so disengenous just like the rest of the neocons.

Now they adopted the same policies and are saying the same things that Obama has said for years, except they have no plans only words.

Posted by: otot | September 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Stats are out today "Jobless rate up". If you look hard enough you will find the majority of them are in the states that the democrates control. For all you Clinton lovers, Hillary has done a big fat nothing for NY State except use it for her own political ambition.

Posted by: Kim | September 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I find it amazing to read the same comments that were used to defend McCain in 2000 are now the sword to villify. Sen McCain might not have said 'change' in this contest first, but he lived 'change' while Sen Obama was rattling around the Boston figuring out how to get to class.

I'm not a Sen McCain fan but I am anti-Sen Obama because of his policies and lack of cogent plan to pay for them. I will vote for the Republician ticket to get Gov Palin in and keep Sen Obama as a footnote in history instead of developing policy and being the protector of my nation.

Posted by: Reagan Democrat | September 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

I just went to Iraq for the first time last month to prove that I have foriegn policy experience. Sarah Palin just went last year to Kuwait. But I have a better idea of the situation over there. John McCain has been 8 times and has over 30 years of foriegn policy experience, but I still have more than both of them because the germans said so. Duh, err, duh, err, where is my teleprompter. I will debate John McCain anywhere any place except the townhall meetings. I need a teleprompter because I don't know what to say if I don't have one hehe. My wife and preacher are racists. I hang out with terrorists. My brother only makes $1 per month. I am a true elitist, because I won't even help out my own family.

Posted by: Barack Obama | September 5, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Fiskmama: I AM SO GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP!!!
Well, let's just talk about what drove the employment rate down so drastically in the 70's, shall we? Let's see, it seems we were coming out of another Republican run regime which drove us into a war which we had no business being in, that dragged on WAY to long and took money and resources from home...where far too many inexperienced men and women lost their lives to a false ideal which was covering up the real reason we were involved...wait...any of this sounding familiar????

Posted by: TLB | September 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Exact figure by Department of Labor as of this morning, Sep 5, 2008: 6.1%
Highest since 5 years ago. Normal unemployment rate is at 5%. It's by 1.1% higher. Since 3 months ago, we've had 84,000 more people unemployed, the size of a football field full of people (national convention hall packed with people).
These people will have their votes in by November and you'll see whether a former POW-Cancer war patient along with an NRA bible in one hand, gun in the other reindeer witch will be elected or not! As Chevy Chase so midly used to put it back in the 70s of Saturday Night Live shows: 'Jane! You Ignorant Slxxt!'

Posted by: SF49 | September 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

hi i'm Rachel in MI and i'm an idiot

Posted by: Rachel in MI | September 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

I am a democrat and was felt sick while watching the Republic Convention. Here were the people that control our government for the last 8 years with the presidency and congress. They got us into this economic mess. The price of gas was $1.35 on average, now it is $3.45. We are spending $10 billion a week on the war in Iraq on a false pretense (sold to us on national TV) that they had nuclear material from niger. When a cia operative's husband stated Iraq did not have nuclear material. Chenney and his staff exposed the CIA operative. This is treason, folks. Moreover Palin and McCain attack the political elite in Washington. Bush was the man, he was the emperor. Now the emperor is not our friend. This is plain and pure hypocracy. Man up to the truth. Republicans are lying through their teeth and will probably convince everyone else that McCain was a war hero, and should be the next emperor. I was in Vietnam, I remember that people protested the war. I don't remember the vietnamese having any weapons of mass destruction. Did the vietnamese ever bombed any planes, or step foot on our continent? We had no business in vietnam. Emperor McCain was a war hero for bombing hanoi. If he had landed in Brooklyn after bombing us, we would have known how to deal with people that bomb us. He would not have been a prisoner of war. This was another illegal war.

Wake up folks this is a charade based on lies and pointing fingers. We are an empire and the emperor's friends are pulling wool over our eyes and promising to take care of us. We are subjects of the empire and are treated as a colony by the emperor. This is a global empire. McCain has condos all over the united states and overseas. Cindy McCain collects her fees and royalties. King and Queen McCain. Long live the King.

Posted by: veteran | September 5, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

To Feasterofamine Republicans are running for reform, change, safety for the americans, & country first. The word change does not reflect the Democrats, so lets not be hasty to judge.

Posted by: Sparky | September 5, 2008 1:16 PM

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What???? Do you know where you can stick your ignorant bumper sticker logic? You really think lecturing me with your simplistic propaganda is going to make me change my mind about the party that has RUINED our country for the last 8 years? MY GOD you have got to be kidding me. Any more pearls of wisdom for me? I'm lost without them

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Joy said: "I live in IL, and the only thing Obama has done in Sentate office so far is campaign." .... hallelujah!

Joy, I live in Chicago, and the only thing Obama has done is campaign. I lived next to his lawyer friends... before Obama ran for Senate... and all I heard from his friends is how Obama will campaign. I worked w/his friends wives at the UofC Hosp... and all she can say is I deserve more.

Honest. I reallize these are all only associations... but you can see a man for who their friends are. You see a list of friends speaking up for McCain at the convention (BOTH conventions). What about Obama?

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

my name is Richdoode and i'm a moron

Posted by: Richdoode | September 5, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

unemployment is highest under reagan, bush 1 and bush 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Us_unemployment_rates_1950_2005.png

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for new ideas for energy, but PLEASE make it so I don't have to pay 4 bucks for gas anymore! Why can't we drill AND look for energy alternatives. And more taxes? Are you crazy? More taxes won't help anyone but big government! Our economy isn't in bad shape because of Bush, it is becasue of Alan Greenspan. What idiot would lower the rates to 1%, encourage everyone to get adj rate mortgages, and then raise interest rates. He is the one to blame, NOT Bush.

Posted by: Rachel in MI | September 5, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I don't agree with much that this administration has been doing these past 8 years but Obama really scares me. He's different than the typical Democrat, much more liberal than Clinton ever was. Clinton in many ways was a centrist as is McCain in my opinion. But Obama is an activist, who has been around other leftist activists his whole life. When I hear Michelle Obama say that Barrack wants to make the "world as it should be" I don't think most Americans know what she means, and what that rhetoric would translate into in terms of actual government policy. I personally do not view the Federal government as a way to make the world "as it should be." Does this mean McCain is better? I think yes in terms that he is not going to create huge government programs designed to redistribute wealth that we can never get rid of. Is McCain a great candidate that I'm all fired up over? No, not at all. I just think he sucks less.

Posted by: Matt | September 5, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Republicangirl, I LOVE YOU!!!

Posted by: sicemdawgs08 | September 5, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: eyeopener | September 5, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

OMG! Get over it. McCain is a president. Obama is a unqualified speech giver. Palin sweetens the pot. Biden is the kind of politician Obama wants to be, ineffective but long-lasting.

Posted by: Richdoode | September 5, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

Johnny, Appreciate your comments but Hope is not a strategy is actually a book I read. It's a sales book which an old boss gave to me. Get a copy and read it before the election and you'll understand that giving hope, although is warm, doesn't accomplish anything. I'm a midwestern guy who is a meat and potatoes kind of person. Obama will lose because he's offering the unlimited open buffet. He needs to stick to something he can deliver. McCain isn't perfect and Bush was a mess but Obama will harm this country. Hell, he called his minister a personal friend and prayed there 20 years. That's who he is and McCain is a hero. You can't hide from the truth. Obama is self serving who offers empty hope. Get with the program and stop being so naive.

Posted by: Missourineutral | September 5, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is Fiskmama and i'm a moron

Posted by: Fiskmama | September 5, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

CHECK HERE FOR PALIN'S FIRST INTERVIEW.......oooooopppppppssssss......STILL hasn't happend in seven days..............Maybe next month.............Check back after the SI Swimsuit Edition, maybe they'll have an interview.............

Posted by: benighse | September 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Repugnant Girl: oh my god you are hilarious! You go girl: show your hate! You want me to speak my mind on race, well here goes: GOD CREATED US ALL. You hate one of us, that is the equivalent of hating GOD. I know you think you've got it all together and you know, ya just KNOW that the blacks are out to getcha, and that the Republican party stands for honor and loyalty, but honey, they just want all the power and all the money. When they say smaller government, they just mean they want a bigger piece of the pie for themselves.

Posted by: TLB | September 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

To Feasterofamine Republicans are running for reform, change, safety for the americans, & country first. The word change does not reflect the Democrats, so lets not be hasty to judge.

Posted by: Sparky | September 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

There were plenty of Republican women more qualified than Palin whom McCain could have chosen. Palin brings nothing to the ticket but her gender.

Remember, McCain, a republican, is running for president, and has no new ideas, and wants to continue Bush's economics. It's still about McCain.

Posted by: julie | September 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: tomallmicros | September 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

OVER IN ARAB COUNTRY , THEY HAVE MEN AND WOMEN WILLING TO GIVE THERE LIFE FOR THE GREAT CAUSE...NOW I SUGGEST WE HERE IN AMERICA DO THE SAME, FIND SOME GOOD PERSON WILLING TO DIE FOR AMERICA AND HAVE HIM ORT HER, KILL THE BASTARD OBAMA BEFORE HE KILLS AMERICA...THINK ABOUT IT AND SOME ONE STAND UP FOR AMERICA...JERRY WAYNE

Posted by: JERRY WAYNE WILSON | September 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"I've listened and my gut tells me Obama's motives are self serving."
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As people learn more details about Palin's career, they'll soon realize that she might be the most ambitious/self serving politician in this election....

For starters, before running for Mayor she switched from a Evangelical Church that is a bit on the fringe (speaking in tongues, end of the world is now beliefs) to a more non-controversial one. She may have even changed her political beliefs from Alaskan Independent Party to Republican (although the Republicans are trying to disprove this, it seems like there is proof she was a member of AIP)

Why would she make these changes just before running for Mayor?

Who makes the jump from Mayor of a very small town to Governor as fast as she did?

Who not only makes the jump from Governor to Vice Presidential pick in two years, but seems perfectly calm and fine with that jump?

She definitely isn't your average politician. She has far more ambition than an average politician.

Posted by: gary | September 5, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a creationist who believes the world was created 6000 years ago. She also believes that we are on a christian crusade in Iraq. I think we may have our own Ayatollah Palin in the making.

Posted by: SaneWoman | September 5, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

TLB you are so right on

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

TLB... The unemployment rate, while maybe slightly higher (at 7% or so) then it's been in recent years is still no where near where it was in the 70's (at close to 20%). I guess in a world where truth is relative there is no standard by which to measure things.

Posted by: Fiskmama | September 5, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse


Who wants fresh or leftover's? Mccain is leftovers and Obama and his administration is fresh.

Posted by: notindenial | September 5, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

""I am delighted that someone like Sarah Palin is on the ticket. I was going to skip voting for president this time, but Sarah's changed my name. If McCain had enough sense to choose a "real" person, he's got to be a better choice than Obama.""

Sarah had no less than 5 lies found in her speech before the day was out. Carabou Barbie is exactly what she seems, a pretty face reading froma teleprompter. She supported the bridge to nowhere until it was shown as unpopular. She DID NOT sell that plane on
e-Bay. She tried to but when it didn't sell she sold it ot a Republican contributor at a reduced price.

She is another chatty Kathy with a bad attitude and no plan.

The most painful part , and the most joyful part of this country is that your vote can cancel out mine. Well mine just cancelled yours.

Posted by: Marcus | September 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Meg Smith: I applaud your courage to talk about your struggles and what you have done to make your path. I've got to disagree with you on the name calling and making up lies however. BOTH sides do that. Let's look at what they've done with Obama: Terrorist fist bump ring a bell? How about he's really a muslim whose directive it is to get into the White House and hand over the country to Islamist extremists? Or wait, my favorite: He's the ANTI-CHRIST! You can't say that either side is free from sin on that one.

Posted by: TLB | September 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Say whatever you want. Guess the 1/2 white part doesn't matter to Osama! If he was proud at all of his "white" heritage he wouldn't be part of that reverse racism church with their "Black Point System". And yes - I am as far right as a conservative Republican can get. I feel sorry for the lot of you who are afraid to speak their minds because someone will smack a "rascist" label on you! You are the one who have your heads buried in the sand, there are far more people like me, but they're afraid to speak their minds. Because intolerant people like you say "it's politically incorrect". Well so what! Don't think that the same isn't true on the black/hispanic side - I see it everyday!

Posted by: Republican Girl | September 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

It is easy to understand while Dems are freakin out..they are going to LOSE!
McCain and Palin are better qualified, better people and WAY better looking!!!!!
Sorry Welfare Peeps..get a job!!!! And lose some weight too!
"If Dems were smart theyde be Republican"
GREAT BOOK!!!!

Posted by: srfrgrl | September 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes a pilot gets shot down and shows heroism. Sometimes he's just a bad pilot with bad judgement. Getting caught and tortured do not make you a hero. Nor does claiming service to your country makes you worthy of this office.Standing in a ditch and throwing mud does not excuse your lack of a plan. Endless sniping and complaining just shows us all how weak you are at uniting the nation. We saw Bush \Rove do all this before and we'll be paying for that mistake for the next 50 years. Terrorism is this generations Communism. It's what the weak minded, power-hungry and greedy use to scare you so you don't see what they've really done with the power and trust you gave them.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

TLB, .... was that meant to attack anyone here? You really should lighten up... as should I. (thought I did until I saw your message) And I bet the Democrats in the office aren't doing that. Okay... I believe that. For all I know, both parties are sitting around getting fat at our expense.

I actually believe there are lazy, good-for nothing, corrupt politicians on both sides. And I think there are truly genuine and those work w/integrity on BOTH sides. I also think there are a BUNCH of egos being thrown aside. It's them who are the ones messing this country up.

TheBoss, guess I couldn't take your advice. But will.

Posted by: Kim | September 5, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Get past yourselfs. Democrat/Republican who cares. McCain bashing. Obama bashing. Stop it!
For the 2nd time in our country's history a woman is on the polictical ballot. The last one was 20 yrs ago!! think about that.
Listen to your hearts. America is a beautiful place - people all over the world come to us to escape their countries and find FREEDOM! Don't take your FREEDOM at face value. Men/Women/Children have died and endured torture to provide this freedom. FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
Do not grow numb to hearing the same stories. Find something new in them. Look at them from a different prospective.
Do you trust your candidate? Believe that he will put you first. Lincoln, Kennedy, Reagan great presidents. trusted presidents. Does your candidate line up with them?
Stop the he said/she said or let's take apart every word of the speech to find out what they did or did not say.
Look at both candidates - their platforms -their beliefs and choose.
I have. God bless America - God bless our Troops - God bless all those seeking government offices. Their's is a tough job and I'm not sure many can do it.

Posted by: Jw | September 5, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Hi my name is Meg Smith and I'm a moron.

Posted by: Meg Smith | September 5, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Palin opposes abortion even after incest or rape. She wants the Bible taught coequally with biology in science classes. She opposes stem-cell research. She is a homeschooling parent (most of them want to defund public education). She tried to get the (illegal) shooting of wolves from airplanes made legal. She LIED about her earmark history, since she hired a lobbyist and made annual trips to DC to facilitate her pork requests which were greater than those made by any other governor. She supported the Bridge to Nowhere until it became a public joke (I have her own words indicating support). She tried to get public library books banned then fired the librarian who opposed her. She became mayor of a town that was debt-free and left it $22 million in debt. She said "I haven't really focused on Iraq" and "I don't really know what the Vice-President does". She has a minimal education and zero foreign policy experience. She thinks war is a religious obligation. She accepted an invitation to stand for VP knowing that this would expose her pregnant young daughter to ridicule. Now millions of Americans want to vote for her because she reminds them of themselves. She will be a heartbeat away from being leader of the free world. God help us all: the election of McCain/Palin will be the end of this country.

Posted by: Lilly | September 5, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse


Just imagine a gun toting Palin with a finger on the "Button"

Posted by: notindenail | September 5, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

MARCUS: I think I love you.

Posted by: TLB | September 5, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that a man who is CLEARLY exactly 50% white and 50% black would CHOOSE to be black? Is it for expedient? Are there more benefits? Are there more affirmative action handouts?

He could have chosen to check the "white" box on his college application, right?

Posted by: Tim G | September 5, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin will be an excellent vice president. To all Democrats stop being so critical. Ask your self what have you done for your country? She had served Alaska as a Mayor and Governor it might not be a big thing from you guys, but she still served.

Posted by: GisGd | September 5, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone else find it utteringly amazing, mind numbing and surreal that the republicans are running on a change platform borrowed from Obama to storm their own castle??!! Repub chant...."We suck, We Suck but NOW Were Different." This cranky guy cant even operate the internet to read your opinion. But change is comming......ya right like what more trickle down economics, fear mongoring, politicizing 9/11 and questioning patriotism? Privitizing anything and everything to line the pockets of your friends? Lying repeatedly to the American people, 3 TRILLION in debt and POOF! A new republican party!!!! transformed from the last eight years and catapulted into the future! Yippeee like Slim Pickens riding the bomb trhough the sky in Dr Strangelove. Hello Joe McCarthy is that you? Mr. McCarthy would be proud. So would David Blaine. Abracadabra!!

Posted by: feastorafamine | September 5, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Marcus,

Amen, amen, amen, amen.

Posted by: nocity | September 5, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Only a moron and a dufus would write the offensive "Obama bin Laden" to show how illiterate he is. You 'beautiful bulldog', you mother must have been the dog. Otherwise you could read that Barack Obama is the Democratic party candidate's name. You just can't get it right because you are as stupid as a bulldog! Go back to 3rd grade and get your eyes examined too because if you can't read and write you shouldn't be commenting on Washington post! If half of this country is as ignorant as you are, we are indeed in a huge trouble and no Barack Obama or Joe Biden can save the mess! McCain and Palin will rule you and your next generation and keep you in complete and utter ignorance until China, India and Korea will come to rule in the land of George Washington! You certainly deserve such a future.

Posted by: SF49 | September 5, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

The old TV show called them "Big Giant Heads". Thats what we, both R's and D's like to worship. Sort of like the millions of Christians who get hypnotised by the money-stealing preachers on cable 24 hours a day. Thats human nature. The great majority of humans have no critical thinkning skills, are scared senseless by the complexity of the world and want a societal-mommy security blanket draped over them by someone with a big mouth like Palin. It's shear genius by the political handlers. Pander to human base-nature and the rubes will hand you their minds, dollars and apparently will sacrifice their kids (sorry Bristol) to you.

Posted by: GoneHome | September 5, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

I am a conservative, middle class, hardworking mom. I raised 4 sons, run an auto repair business, started a charter school (2nd highest ranked in the nation) using my own money for development, home schooled the two youngest. I was not a hockey mom; I was a water polo mom. I have raised funds, volunteered hours, helped others, etc. For my efforts, I have been called all manner of ugly names by the local lefties who run this town. Later they always say: nothing personal. The left will take every opportunity to villify anyone who dares disagree them - often just making up lies. (I'm hard pressed to think there's any compassion in that kind of behavior.)

I am delighted that someone like Sarah Palin is on the ticket. I was going to skip voting for president this time, but Sarah's changed my name. If McCain had enough sense to choose a "real" person, he's got to be a better choice than Obama.

Posted by: Meg Smith | September 5, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Repugnant, er Republican Girl: By your statements alone, you prove you are no lady. I think it's kinda hard for you to prove Obama's "secret agenda" when you weigh the fact that he's HALF-WHITE. Don't try to hide your hate under a bushel basket: be the racist you are proud to be! Idiot.

Posted by: TLB | September 5, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

hi my name is Bri and i'm a moron

Posted by: Bri | September 5, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Why all the concern about experience when it comes to a presidential candidate?

Is it better to have a politician with much experience but is corrupt, and that believes in pork barrel philosophy and screwing the people and building more expensive big government programs for the sake of promoting despotism, or a candidte that will balance the budget, give power back to the people and cut the bureaucracy of big government dictators and surrounding themselves with a good knowledgable staff, to take our country in the right direction?

I am one American citizen that is sick of both Republican and Democrats (like Stevens and Reid for example), that have no problem causing our country to have massive debt.

Give us jobs and self respect and let us have the power of making decisions about our health insurance and our schools, etc., etc. and not some political dictator.

Posted by: trueblueamerican | September 5, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin '08!

Posted by: Bri | September 5, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

spending 5 yrs in a box really does make you stupid.

Posted by: I'm the man in a box | September 5, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I think McCain is trying to copy Obama's platform and mantra. What he can't do is be Obama. What he will try to do, just like "Pale in" said at the end of her speech, is if you want change, anti corruption, futurist, come with us... And, of course, with a wink wink and a nudge nudge (do you see how often McCain and his wife wink to people), we are white and patriotic.

In the end, Obama will win, because he is change now. With McCain/Palin it is just a promise. McCain only knows how to fight. He does not know how to really lead. He is a maverick - I agree, but that is the anti thesis of leadership, it is anti-followership and fighting with authority.

Posted by: Paul | September 5, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Hey Kim:

It's kind of hard for people to "get back to work" when the unemployment rate is so high.
Maybe if the current administration wasn't so concerned with filling the pockets of their financial backers, we'd have more people able to follow your directive.

Posted by: TLB | September 5, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Palin first got her passport TWO YEARS AGO!!! Some foreign exposure!

She's visited the Alaska National Guard deployed in two foreign countries. Admirable but expected for a Governor. But she also claims Ireland in her travels. She doesn't tell you that Ireland was where her plane refueled!!! That's it. What a lightweight.

Posted by: pz | September 5, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

hi Melissa 1 and i'm a moron

Posted by: Melissa 1 | September 5, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"Amazed" entertains us with a very racist comment about throwing bananas at Obama. Don't take the bait. If he is a Republican, I am porky pig. All he is a stupid, illiterate idiot who finally found a safe place to air his pathetic views. He has no place in either party.

Posted by: etrok | September 5, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Missourineutral: You've listened and your *gut* tells you Obama's motives are self serving? Like Bush's gut telling him that Putin was a great guy he could work with? What *evidence* do you have that Obama is self-serving, despite evidence to the contrary, e.g., turning down big money from Wall Street firms to work in the streets of Chicago? Good grief, trust your *brain*. You've actually raised a legitimate *reason* to be wary of Obama, namely, his lack of national and internatioinal political experience. However, your remark that "The only thing he offers is hope and hope is not a strategy" is nothing but an ignorant, Repub talking point. Go to Obama's and McCain's web sites and *read* their intended strategies and policies; look at their legislative histories; read objective analyses of them (i.e., avoid the likes of both MoveOn.com and MichelleMalkin.com) and make an *informed* decision, not a gut-driven decision based on nothing but speeches, ads, and talking points.

Posted by: Johnny Laguna | September 5, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Geez... it's amazing how vehement people are about this whole "rascism" issue. I believe this is a black candidate that has a hidden agenda and sits under "HATE THE WHITE MAN" preaching himself... so why am I NOT allowed to dislike him based on HIS race, when every Sunday he hears hate speech spewed about the WHITE RACE!!!

Posted by: Republican Girl | September 5, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...

We've got one nominee who started out in not the best of circumstances, has little real-life experience, but "talks good". For the nomination, he managed to beat a rich lawyer who has an overload of rumpled baggage in her sleazy husband. If she had kicked him out a few years ago, she would be the nominee now.

We have another nominee who grew up in a Navy family, has served his country in the armed forces (which is unfortunately, a rarity with Americans politicians), was a POW, then went into politics. He divorced one woman and got himself a rich replacement. He was considered a "maverick" and fought for what he thought was right, until he decided to run for the nomination. Now he pretty much toes the party line.

Looks like the best thing for the republicans is to have Obama win. When he falls flat on his face, hopefully they will have a replacement ready in four years.

The best for the Democrats is for the McCain to win. After four more years of Bush, hopefully Obama will have proven himself as some type of leader, and will win in four years.

The best thing to come out of this election is that there isn't going to be a Clinton in the Whitehouse.

The worst thing is that we really don't have anybody who is presidential material who is willing to get involved.

Can we dig up Truman and get enough DNA to clone him? Please? Maybe mix a little Reagan DNA to add a little smoothness?

We're in a world of hurt, and I don't see it improving. Our best hope is to do away with a the laws that prevent stupid people from killing themelves doing stupid things. With fewer stupid people procreating, maybe the balance of power would tip to the smarter ones again...

Posted by: disgusted | September 5, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

"Standard of living is highest in European Countries and Canada. US is ranked #14. US was ranked #5 while Clinton was President. If you want the slide to continue vote McBush."

Posted by: Melissa | September 5, 2008 12:49 PM

Firstly, this European trash is using my name because he is a pinhead coward. Secondly, if you don't like the USA, you need to join Obama's camp, that's where your friends are.
Thirdly, strong women frighten you, don't they?
Lastly, European men smell because they don't bathe regularly.
Melissa 1

I'm just quoting facts. something you have no grasp of, obviously. you moron

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love the fact that all the demo's said Obama Bin Laden wasn't qualified to be Pres, then they flipped. Hillary wants to be a Justice and Biden is tired of that damn train ride. Their all looking out for themselves include Obama. At least Gov Sarah could start dumping some of these used assets on Ebay. It's a joke but she's really the only one making sense in this race. Just think of the surplus we'd have if we could sell this crap back to China. Based on the Olympics, they have plenty of money and folks who could use this junk. Imagine if all the democrates would recycle all the junk cars in their front yards! I can't wait to watch this thing brew, better yet let's see how many minutes Obama could take the water torture test, 10 minutes and he'd be crying to his wife which really runs the show.

Posted by: beautiful bulldog | September 5, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

So Rick Davis has to find votes? He should ask George Bush where to find them. George could help him rig polling machines and game the system by closing polling booths in black neighborhoods. It worked for the Republicans in the last two elections. They ought to be getting pretty good at it by now. And if all that fails, there is always the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Politicus | September 5, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Harry S. Truman was a Nazi and a warmonger! Ask any Korean War veteran and he'll tell you how that war was won! Harry Truman's legacy still drags on into the 44 parallel line and now we have to deal with N. Korea's b..sh...t with the nuclear weapon. Go back and read your basic history of the US and World between 1900-1960! Read it with an open mind and put away that Holy Book of yours while you absorb the facts!

Posted by: SF49 | September 5, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Really I don't want to hear Obama or McCain talk about each other or what their opposition is doing or want do. Just tell me what YOU stand for. Plus, stop all the lies. On a personal note: I am planning on voting for McCain. And I have in the past only voted Democratic. And no I wasn't paid by the republican party either. I actually made my decision after speading several days scrolling through the 2's voting record.

Posted by: Storm | September 5, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

You know who else was a POW? Saddam Hussein

Know who else was a maverick? Hitler

Just sayin'

POW/Maverick is McCain's only 'message'

Posted by: Chris | September 5, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm not looking forward to any of this and I can't feel good about either "side" of all this crap - everyone enjoys smacking the other side around saying "all you stupid liberals" and "all you right wing nazis" - in the end we'll slide into january ready to piss and moan again for another 4 years. I think Choice is too much for most people - but I think we need a 3rd or 4th party just to give all you guys something new to complain about.

Posted by: TiredOfPartisan | September 5, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

My main concern is where the economy goes....so if you're a financially hurting american you should probably vote Obama. McCain votes against any financial aid to anyone in need.....ask any victim of Katrina. However....if war is your thing, vote McCain....because he's spent 5 years in a box...and he's ready to get even.

Posted by: MilesMode | September 5, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

What are randomly chosen anonymous comments to do with news? Why are so many of them cited recently as if they were significant or revealing? Lazy, fake journalism is what it is. Too talentless to even do your own writing. What a pathetic display. "Reality Journalism".

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"Maybe if we were all working instead of reading these blogs, the economy would get better. GET BACK TO WORK!

Posted by: theboss | September 5, 2008 12:50 PM " ............. LOL, Great Advice!! I'll take it, since this passion is not good for my blood pressure I am sure.

McCain/Palin '08 (Had to sneak this in)

Posted by: Kim | September 5, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I cannot believe that the Republicans would trust McCain to run for President at his age, and have a younger less experienced person to run as his VP. Can the USA get anymore stupid? We are living in dangerous times, and this is no time to get a woman like Sarah Palin in the Whitehouse just because she is a gun toting, hockey mom, and is called Sarah Barracuda. I don't think that this is the representation that we need, and certainly not the credentials that are necessary. John McCain can die the day he is president, and what do we have? A mom, who has a drunk for a husband, and a child that is with child, to send the message that it is all right to get pregnant out of wedlock to our young children, as long as your mom was governor of Alaska, and now is going to be president. What are the evangelicals saying about this? It's ok, because they want a republican in the Whitehouse, instead of a democrat? Shame, shame on you America!!!

Posted by: Stellabella1942 | September 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

It absolutely amazes me that people of both parties are judging people of the opposite party for doing the same thing they are doing. Unless each of the commentators in this blog have actually spent the hours researching voting records, watching tireless hours of speeches, checking truth or lies in all the commercials (which are no different than other sales jobs on TV) and watched as a politician wrote or received their own speech, etc. then all of their comments are hearsay. Hearsay is not admissable in a court of law because of how "stories" change from person to person based on their own set of circumstances, experience and perspective.

We the people need to start helping out the people in our communities because it was never intended to be the government's responsibility. We the people are the ones who get taxed in order to provide for the programs the Democratic majority vote for in order to look like they are doing their civic duty to care for the people. Wake up and smell the coffee... How can we expect our government to change when we the people refuse to? Why is it always "the other side's fault"? We need to start a revolution that is "no-partisan" by getting rid of the monopolized "bi-partisan" system. I say return the vote to "We the people", do away with electoral determination and have a real election.

Do not let the biased media, sensationalized stars, overpaid sports figures, mega-dollared industries or unions tell you how to vote. We the people die for lack of knowledge. Become an informed voter... and protect your right to vote... it is slowly being taken away Bi-partisanly.

Posted by: EyesWideOpen | September 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Always look at motivation it will give you the truth.
Obama and his WIFE are motivated by politial immortality
The FIRST black president, they WANT to TAKE the white house, they said it.
Biden wants to be president after Obama, he's run plenty of times, he's a career polotician he wants the crown for his ego.
McCain No Ego, he's done it all, he has real aulturistic motives.
Palin , well she was swept along, but she is real.

Posted by: Annon | September 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to Anne kilkenney ( hope I got it right) You confirmed my worst nightmare about the "pitbull" from Alaska. One only has to read between the lines to see what we are really dealing with...cute for sure, sassy for sure...all those old republican men eating out of her hand.
This is a scary time and with Captain Chaos MCBush in charge and Sara the Pitbull shooting off one liners and aksing us to "read her lipstick" we are going to be in real trouble.
There was nothing about issues in either MCBUSH OR PAILIN speeches..it was about one liners and waving the flag and waving the flag and retelling the horrors of the torture endured by JMCB. While it is terrible and horrible to hear, it was the only theme of any speeches given by friends or himself. Those delegates to the convention were in a frenzy...what did they hear. more emotional spin, more soap opera lines than the afternoon soaps. The family values that only Republicans possess can only play so far and then actions are always going to speak louder than words.
Back in Germany in the 1930's another man stroked the patriot coats of Good Germans and they swallowed hook, line and sinker. look what they got by 1939. WE had better be careful what we hope for, all of the platitudes about being patriotic and zeal for American Ideals is not going to get us out of this downward spiral that the Bush and nowe the McCain Presidency promises. Waving a flag will do little for the folks who are losing their jobs, homes and their life savings. Waving a flag will do little to put gas in a car or food on a table.
Let's get a real leader into the White House who is also patriotic but who also knows that it is going to take leadership, diplomacy, bipartisan efforts and plans to turn the the corner on the disaster this country faces. OBama is my choice because of his thoughtfulnes, his integrity, his intelligence and his personna. He is the real package --- a leader for our time.
Let's not let McBush and his pitbull distract us with their rehtoric which is negative and shows lack of imagination and intergrity.

Send the pitbull back to Alaska and MCBush to Arizona!

Posted by: mrs ct | September 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"Standard of living is highest in European Countries and Canada. US is ranked #14. US was ranked #5 while Clinton was President. If you want the slide to continue vote McBush."

Posted by: Melissa | September 5, 2008 12:49 PM

Firstly, this European trash is using my name because he is a pinhead coward. Secondly, if you don't like the USA, you need to join Obama's camp, that's where your friends are.
Thirdly, strong women frighten you, don't they?
Lastly, European men smell because they don't bathe regularly.
Melissa 1

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

For how many years did Obama sit in Wright's church? Nuff said!

Posted by: Huh? | September 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I just love all the talk about "sexism" here. Watch this to see how the Republicans really feel about it:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=184086&title=sarah-palin-gender-card

And if you want to know what kind of person she really is, listen to someone who knows her:

http://www.crosscut.com/politics-government/17341

Or watch a video of Sarah Palin at her church, before she began campaigning as VP:

http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/vidplayer.pl?IDLink=3845739

Unlike the anonymous rumors floating around, there's an actual name behind that email. Unlike the rumors of what people "really believe", those videos have Republicans putting what they believe in their own words.

Show these to everyone you know. People deserve to know the truth about how the Republicans are lying whenever it's convenient!

Posted by: Palin is Falin' | September 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

hi I'm TrishaCalifornia and i'm a moron

Posted by: TrishaCalifornia | September 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

UNWED PREGNANCY IS NOTHING NEW TO SARAH PALIN.

She and Todd Palin eloped on 8/29/88.
Their first child (Track) was born) 8 months later on 4/20/89 (according to Alaska court records listing Tracks' DOB).

Posted by: JB | September 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes a pilot gets shot down and shows heroism. Sometimes he's just a bad pilot with bad judgement. Getting caught and tortured do not make you a hero. Nor does claiming service to your country makes you worthy of this office.Standing in a ditch and throwing mud does not excuse your lack of a plan. Endless sniping and complaining just shows us all how weak you are at uniting the nation. We saw Bush \Rove do all this before and we'll be paying for that mistake for the next 50 years. Terrorism is this generations Communism. It's what the weak minded, power-hungry and greedy use to scare you so you don't see what they've really done with the power and trust you gave them.

Posted by: Marcus | September 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

MRN: Prosperity? You speak of Republicans and prosperity for America in the same breath? How can they tout prosperity as their theme when unemployment has risen to 6.1% under the current Republican administration? We’re in an oil crunch, and the big bosses of oil are living high on the hog thanks to Bush and Cheney (both of whom still have ties to oil). Over a million homes are being foreclosed upon. One percent of U.S. citizens have 90% of the money in this country, and they are paying the least in taxes. How is that prosperity for America?? We’re fighting a war which WE instigated over false allegations, which has no direction, no real reason and doesn’t have anything to do with the attacks on America. Yet, the people who rant and rave about big government spending (ie, Bush and his Ilk) have no problem throwing $10 million a MONTH at the war, much of which is going to private “security” firms working in Iraq with no kind of oversight, let alone a receipt…all while our soldiers are paid a mere pittance and are accountable to the penny! Your civil rights (which the Constitution guaranteed) have been decimated under the current administration due to misleading memos about executive privilege and a fascist fanaticism that rivals the groups we are fighting. So I gotta ask: are you feeling prosperous right about now?

Posted by: TLB | September 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

McCain spent 1/2 his speech talking about not only how to move away from dependence on foreign oil...but exactly how we were going to get by in the meantime. And unlike Obama, McCain actually talked about Georgia, Russian and some others that make up the 200+ other countries we share the earth with.

People only want to be in a gang. They want to be right or wrong. Bravo to John McCain for not only admitting his party has been wrong, but for the courage to go out and don things on his own terms.

Posted by: Idiots | September 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

You know what this election is really about. It's about pushing aside the rest of the country so the rich and privledged get all the money and power. They want everyone to lose their homes. They want Americans to leave the country. They are going to make it harder on you than you can possibly fathom. That's why they keep coming up with all these stories about how there dad's and mom's worked 2 or jobs for little pay, because that's what they want you to do, and then they'll call you a hero too. Thanks for working like a slave for us rich guys, you are our hero. Give me a break. And why is Palin VP? I know why now. Because the oil companies are scared to death the Obama is going to pass a windfall profits tax on them and give back to the American People. Doesn't anybody know that Palin is the Oil companies best friend? They don't even want to give you a chance at toppling there power. They want to keep it how it is so their families stay rich and your families remain losers. Goodbye middle class, so long the threat to the upper class. They are not helping you achieve the American dream, they want to prevent it any way possible.

Posted by: middleclassbegone | September 5, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

republicans think that if they are anti abortion the rest doesnt matter. theres no doubt that Jesus is a democrat

Posted by: republican | September 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

You may disagree with some of his politics,(I know I do) but you gotta love this man. Here is a TRUE American hero. But more importantly here is a man who is NOT petty, vain, and a man with the real deal type of deep character that we don't see often enough in politics. The message that came across was that this guy sees himself in the right light; he sees that America is much bigger than himself, not the other way around. He has maturity, authority, sincerity, experience, and he doesn't care about political posturing. In his own modest, humble way, this guy's character leaps out at you. I'll take a wise man with average oratory skills over a great speaker any day. Even if,(or perhaps because of the fact that), he's not a perfect man. He at least admits that he's not all that, and strives to do better. I don't want a politician who STARTS with the premise that he's the ONLY one who can effect change. I want a politician who starts with the premise that he's grateful for his country, and acknowledges that he is only one of many Americans who sees something bigger than himself. America will still will go on. I want a leader who has quietly DEMONSTRATED change over time and not made a rapid rush to broadcast and inflate a thin resume. I fear that today's masses only want to look on the flash and style that is on the outside rather than seeing the true heart on the inside. American Idol may be a lot more fun, but American heroes are a lot more real.

Posted by: Jim | September 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

For the last two years, Democrats controlled Congress. . . look what has happened to our economy since, a downward spiral due to negativity and inaction.From Murtha to Reid to Pelosi, all I have heard from them is how bad my country is. If it wasn't for McCain's gutsy/prescient stand for 'the Surge in Iraq'(rather than retreat proposed by the shallow), imagine where that would be! We are a great nation, diverse and compassionate, and we still dream like no other nation on Earth, but we must never ever let our guards down, or flinch or presume all is right elsewhere, Reagan said "Trust but Verify", clearly we have all learned (I Hope), that Trusting Al Queda wouldn't try to Bomb the World Trade Center again(after its first bombing in 1993 during Clinton's admin.) was a naive, and a deadly lapse of judgement by our preoccupied slick-talking leadership in the White House in the 1990's. We need a strong, knowing leader willing to put country ahead of politics, American victory ahead of a personal political victory, and we do want a woman with a refreshing, energetic, equally strong consistent constitution to lead us going forward, thankfully, John McCain and Sarah Palin bring those qualities to the table for all of us.

Posted by: TrishaCalifornia | September 5, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain promises reform -- how's McCain Feingold Election Reform working?
Obama promises reform -- what's he reformed?
Bush promised, Clinton promised. Civil rights got shredded, jihadis kill Americansat home and abroad, and we depend on unstable, unreliable sources for our energy.
Take your country back. If you're tired of the corrupt, perennial promise-breaking politician you can do something.
For the next three election cycles vote for OTHER than the incumbent.
It matters.
NEVER VOTE FOR AN INCUMBENT>

Posted by: awenshok'08 | September 5, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

All this balderdash about executive experience, or lack thereof, is overdone. What counts are the inclinations of the candidates - how they will govern, their philosophy of governance and their integrity with the electorate. McGovern/Palin has it - Obama/Biden does not.

To illustrate how somebody with little or no executive experience did as POTUS, look at Harry Truman and how he accurately assessed the dangers of USSR Bolshevism and how he reacted with the Marshall Plan, Korea and NATO.

Back then I was a Democrat but ever since 1972 when the McGovernites took over the Democrat Party I could no longer support them. Statesmen like HST and Scoop Jackson were replaced by the likes of Reid, Pelosi, Durbin, Schumer, et al.

I like the McCain/Palin ticket and I hope other disaffected former and present Democrats will sujpport this ticket.

Posted by: Big Stan | September 5, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

KZoo Tom: "McCain like most Republicans are blood thirsty for war. I watched the RNC and all I heard was his POW story and the surge bologna." ... IF you can not understand or feel the relevancy of his speech... I am not sure if anyone can help you. But I still have to make a point.

(1) McCain AND Republicans do NOT like war. we do not like death. Saying this is like Obama and Democrats likes to kill babies. PLEASE tell me that sounds ridiculous to you. I don't like death or physical abuse of any sort. We could stand here and argue all we want, but for you to conclude aggressiveness to Repubs is unfair... have you seen the anti-war loons in Minn? I could easily say that Democrats are cowards... as some may run away and hide if our country is ever indeed attacked. But I won't say that... b/c I know there are decent Democrats.

(2) POW story... it's a HUGE part of his life. It's a compelling story... how should we understand him if we don't know where he came from. If you would just STOP... and truly listen. Then you can hear the message. But that's too much to ask of an extreme.

There probably should be a 3rd party where the extreme left and right and stay... and all the moderates create another party. We'll at least win every time... thank goodness the extreme views are minor in comparison.

Posted by: Kim | September 5, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain promises reform -- how's McCain Feingold Election Reform working?
Obama promises reform -- what's he reformed?
Bush promised, Clinton promised. Civil rights got shredded, jihadis kill American at home and abroad, and we depend on unstable, unreliable sources for our energy.
Take your country back. If you're tired of the corrupt, perennial promise-breaking politician you can do something.
For the next three election cycles vote for OTHER than the incumbent.
It matters.

Posted by: awenshok'08 | September 5, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Maybe you don't know:

Jesus was anti war:
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] Resist
not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. [Matthew 5:39] I say unto you, Love your
enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despite-fully use you, and persecute
you; [Matthew 5:44]

Jesus was anti wealth
In the temple courts [Jesus] found men selling cattle, sheep and doves and other
sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle;
he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. [John 2:14 & 15.] Watch out! Be on your guard against
all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. [Luke 12.15.] Truly, I say unto you, it will
be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. [Matthew 19:23] You cannot serve both God and Money

Jesus was an advocate for the poor:
Love your neighbor as yourself. .[Matthew 22:39] So in everything, do to others as you would have them do to you.
[Matthew 7:12.] If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven.
[Matthew 19:21]
But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed,
because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. [Luke 14:13 &14.]

By the way Jesus never made any statement about homosexuality (which most certainly existed but apparently wasn't a topic that took center stage unlike today)but He did make many statements concerning our treatment of the poor, hungry and needy. He focused on the "least"

I am sick and tired of the distortion of Jesus' teachings. There are more issues then abortion and homosexuality and since the bible (if you actually read it) talks more about helping the poor more often then anything else maybe that should be your focus. Republicans aren't really the Christian party. They are using the distorted Christian rights view of the world to their advantage. So what would Jesus do?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain's attempt to transform himself into a "change" candidate because that label is working for Obama reveals the out of touch Republican platform he has to work with. Where was this theme for the last 24 years when McCain voted in lockstep with the other Republicans to increase the National Debt an astounding eleven fold?
As the son and grandson of U.S. Navy Admirals and husband of a multimillionaire, McCain lives a privileged life and can never understand the financial needs of the average worker earning $35,000 (female) to 43,000 (Male) per year.
My local area of California is now facing an official unemployment level of 8.9%. That does not include the nearly same number of persons who have exhausted their unemployment benefits - those people are nonexistant according to the unemployment reporting proceedures - bringing our actual unemployment level to nearly 20%.
VOTED FOR HILLARY... WILL PROUDLY VOTE FOR OBAMA

Posted by: MikeU | September 5, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I mean the guy didn't even have columns behind him. He didn't have Speilberg or Tom Hanks.


Posted by: mediahack | September 5, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

This election has become a personality contest! Voters in America should pound the Repugs to show accountability for the past 8 years of corruption, deceit and warmongering! Bringing a 'woman' candidate to the platform aint gonna remove the real problems we've been facing in this country since 2000! What does Ms. Palin have to offer other than reindeer management, baby production and privacy violation. Another 4 years of egalitarian government.

Posted by: SF49 | September 5, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

hi i'm TiredOne and i'm a moron

Posted by: TiredOne | September 5, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

"I want to stand in the front row at any rally that Barack Obama Bin Laden is at and throw bananas at him! Can the guy look any more like a monkey than he already does??"
It's amazing people like you still exist in this world. Go back to your cave.
Posted by: amazed | September 5, 2008 12:37 PM


Amazed - loser you are a racist pig. You need to back to your hole and hide your ugly face. You and the few that agree with your racist mouth is holding back this country. Fortunately, there are more intelligent people who are moving forward and beyond your racists views. President Obama will lift this country from dispair.

Posted by: ob08 | September 5, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if we were all working instead of reading these blogs, the economy would get better. GET BACK TO WORK!

Posted by: theboss | September 5, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

no holesbarred

THANK YOU !

Posted by: VMR | September 5, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

my name is mar and i'm a moron

Posted by: mar | September 5, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

For many years the liberals have had a strong voice for equal rights for women. Now we have a woman willing to sacrifice her time for the love and sake of country and what do we hear from the liberals?

Posted by: TiredOne | September 5, 2008 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Now come on democrats don't yopu all feel really stupid, just admit it please,
Your party picked for you in the time of war and terrorist attacks
Obama as the next COMMANDER IN CHIEF, a person who has NEVER given an executive command or order, has NEVER managed a single person, has never held a paying management job of any sort, has no experince in business or chain of command.
And Biden who requested FIVE deferment from military service before finally getting a medical discharge,
a man who is a LIFELONG career politcian who has been in Washington for all his career, and NOW he has decided to affect change and NOW he has figured out what to do, what has he been doing up to now,
He has spebnt most of that time geting re elected again and again and again and again and again, which is what career politicians do.
Democrats you are pathetic, just admit it please it will be refreshing

Posted by: Spacecowboy | September 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

unemployment,katrina,iragi war,foreclosures , 4.39 dollar gas,the worst ecomony the list is endless.What a "great" platform for the republicans to run on!.Ok so go ahead and elect them for another four years and most of you posters here will probably end up living in a cardboard house!That's where the rubber meets the road.That would be the price to pay once again for being in denial and in an ignorant pride.Angry "republican girl" is probably homeless that's why she is angry.

Posted by: notindenial | September 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin, you lied to America when you bragged about telling congress "thanks, but no thanks" regarding the bridge to no where. Congress killed that project 13 months before you took office! Now I wish to offer you this public opportunity to practice the most important family value: honesty. Will you come clean or perpetuate your false image via continued deception? You have hidden behind an attorney from your abuse of powers case. This would be a great time to admit that ethical violation as well!

Posted by: T Phantom | September 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Standard of living is highest in European Countries and Canada. US is ranked #14. US was ranked #5 while Clinton was President. If you want the slide to continue vote McBush.

Posted by: Melissa | September 5, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

WesfromGA, Obama did give speech that was very light on policy, and spent over 45 minutes promoting the fact that he isn't George Bush. The bottom line is both candidates suck balls.

Posted by: MAx | September 5, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain sounded like he's running for president in the 1970's. Will someone advise him we have joined the 21st Century! His idea of change is let Dubya's policies be renamed McCain policies----that's about as much change as a fart in the Gustav storm, and about as helpful. It stinks!

Posted by: benighse | September 5, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

it's russian roulette, not rush and roulette! GO McCain, can't stand any more taxes.....

Posted by: just old me | September 5, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I was going to vote for Obama, but i change side because the democrats are always angry and bitter on most of their speeches in the democratic convention.

Posted by: mar | September 5, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

hi i'm tanktag and i'm a moron

Posted by: tanktag | September 5, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

The problem is with the Republicans. No. No. It's with the Democrats. Hmmm. Shoot. It is really with the Independents. If only they'd pick sides, we could get on with either reform and change. Or is that change and reform?

Posted by: Paul | September 5, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Mmmmmm...let's see now; two LAWYERS(Obama/Biden) Vs. two NON-lawyers (McCain/Palin)...who should I trust? Who most likely represents change? Mmmmm?

This whole discussion should be scripted into a Simpson's episode.....

Posted by: yeubanc | September 5, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm Okie Republican and I'm a moron.

Posted by: Okie Republican | September 5, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"For their 40-50% in income taxes Europeans get everything they need to survive and keep their families intact, and healthy for as long as necessary, should they lose jobs or have adverse life events. Plus the food is so much better, and the culture is so much richer, and the public transportation is much superior, and the women are far more beautiful, and there're far fewer lawyers and stupid TV programs, and soccer is great..."

Posted by: VMR | September 5, 2008 12:37 PM

Europe is a sewer of racism, poverty and small ideas. That's why it only took a few years for America to surpass the entire European continent in every area of living standards. Most of you knuckle draggers would be speaking German and Russian id the USA hadn't bailed your pathetic backsides out of your wars.
Besides, European I hear that men don't even wash themselves regularly. Pheeeww!!!

Posted by: Melissa | September 5, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

To all you world class thinkers. It is the wise person who listens and does not speak. Which means: The imposition of your view as being the ultimate truth is simple WRONG.

Posted by: mingostriker | September 5, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

it a previlkage[sic] for the amnials to live on earth. to feed us and cloth us. i would rather have 20 more years with the rep. tha one day with the god hateing, baby killing ,gun control, tax raising tree hugging wacks of the dem. party

Posted by: tanktag | September 5, 2008 12:34 PM
========================================
Hi,
Your god is fake. When you hear voices you go see a shrink, not listen to them. The end of the world is only coming if we put Christian nut jobs like you in office where their finger can reach the "Button". Religion is a dying belief in America every year there are more and more people who open their eyes. Soon you will not be able to poison our children’s education and control them with your fear tactics of eternal torture. Man I can't wait... that will be the greatest day the world has ever seen!


Posted by: Creamsykle | September 5, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

We are doomed either way. McCain is worthless and will do nothing, Obama is even worse with terrorist ties (ayers, odinga) and racist ties (wright, fara.). Obama, Biden, and McCain have horrible voting records, all with flip flops. The media promotes propoganda on both side with little substance or truth. I recommend voters actually dig out the voting records of the senate, really read the bills (and not the titles) and make a decision for yourself instead of blindly following the media hype. As a "blue-dog" democrat I cant support either party at this point. It is a sad sad day for America, accept today as the status quo because either way we are probably going to be worse off in four years.

Posted by: jk | September 5, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

You know, I am a Libertarian...mostly because everytime I do the math, it looks to me like the government gets very nearly half my paycheck, around 40% of my check plus the 7.5% or whatever they have to match to my social security taxes. Then, there is the sales taxes when I spend what is left.

Christ would not have been a Republican ...I hope you remember that statement because one you will account for it. For the record, you are correct.He would not have been a Republican. Nor would he have supported allowing survivors of the abortion process to die.

I am a Paul supporter. I was going to vote for Bob Barr because I frankly think the United States deserves to have its face ground into the dirt for four years under the very kind of man the Democrats claim to support: pro-gay, socialist, pro-abortion, and completely hate-filled towards our nation's Christian history.

Palin made me look again,simply because of the total hissy fit the left went into at her selection. I listened to his speech last night because I listened to hers.

If you people cannot hear what is in that man's voice when it comes to this nation, then go ahead and vote for Obama. I am voting McCain. I hope I get what I want.

It is interesting to me that what you want is exactly what you deserve.

-Tim

Posted by: Tim | September 5, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

No offense to those involved, WP or readers, but I've *always* found the comments on political stories to be dominated by pointless candidate-bashing and constant name-calling. It's one giant quest for people to prove how right they are and out-clever the other side. I don't think it's worse than the rest of the internet, but it certainly doesn't add any value to the stories or the site as a whole. I just read the stories and steer clear of the comments. Works out fine.

Posted by: John McGlothlin | September 5, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

However he still managed to drop the ball BIG TIME. How come?-----

The only way Bush dropped the ball is that in order to pass legislation he allowed both Democrat and Republicans to attach all kinds of spending to bills.

However to Bush’s credit – he did inherit a recession when he took office. He also inherited the biggest stock market decline since the great depression. He inherited the worse attack on American soil in its’ history.

Yet over the last 8 years America did not go into a recession, the stock market rebounded, and we have not had another attack.

History will show that he was an excellent President.

Posted by: Answer | September 5, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

This who drill, baby, drill mantra is ridiculous. First, the oil companies already have milions of acres that are undrilled. The oil companies who own drilling rights decide if they want to put millions of dollars into a drill site, not the President. He cannot force them to do anything. Second, why does everyone assume the US will be the sole recipient of any new drilled oil. Last I check we have not nationalized our oil resources so these companies (international companies) will be allowed to sell the oil to the highest bidder on a global market. The oil could just as easily be bought by the Chinese, Japanese, Indians, etc. Doesn't anyone seem to understand this is a ruse...we need to think beyond drilling.

Posted by: chuck | September 5, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

It seems amazing to me that there is so much hate and animosity between our common citizens towards each other based on their voting preferences of either candidate. One thing we should all remember is that we are all citizens of the USA! We all have the same goals, right? We just feel there is different ways to get there. I call myself an independant voter, because I try to vote for the best candidate, no matter what their political party. I believe for many people it is just easier to call themselves one or the other, so they can either fit in with family, friends, or co-workers. We need to vote for a candidate that makes sense, seems true to their word, and will help our country. It doesn't matter if they call themselves Democrat or Republican...does it? Remain true to yourself and your own convictions and do not give in to what's popular at this moment. Vote for someone who you BELIEVE in, not from just your emotions and your heart, but also your mind. I say good luck to both candidates and the debates will determine who I vote for. The debates show a candidate's true color and that is the time to make your decision. So stop trying to do the "popular thing", and look to the candidate that will best represent you and your family, regardless of what people around you may say about you. Be your own person and good luck to you.

Posted by: Ben | September 5, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"The notion that the far right, anti abortion, creationist, book banning Palin is going have any traction with middle of the road voters even if they are women is a paradox that is never explained by all the pundits on the right..."

It is pretty easy to explain. Very few folks are 100% democrat or 100% republican with respect to dogma. And ever those that are, or are close, put some issue of higher importance than others.

I'm pro-choice, don't favor book banning, don't believe in creationism but I seriously doubt a VP will have any effect on those issues nationally. She can believe them all she wants, she will not control congress, she will not appoint justices.

What is important to me, what she can effect, are common sense energy policies, cutting government spending and such. As well as bringing fresh, new blood and smarts.

I'm just one example. I have seen others like her for other reasonst that resonate stronger than the ones you mentioned. Very few people agree 100% with the candidates/ticket they are supporting.

Posted by: Mark | September 5, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

"The open-minded, inclusive democrats are now going to do a repeat of the hatchet job they did on Hillary directing it at Palin. While Obama wails away about kids being "off-limits" he demonstrates either his lack of control of his own campaign or his mean- spiritedness for allowing the dogs to trounce a pregnant teenager. I suppose this is what "Chicago style" politics is all about huh?"

Okay, you lying ass. Name one Democrat who's attacked Palin's daughter. One. Name one Democrat who has attacked Palin's family.

A rumor got started on some stupid blog somewhere and the Republicans decided to let the truth out. Not once, ONCE, has a Democrat attacked Palin's family. Go ahead. Name one. Cite a source.

The whole "Stop attacking my daughter!" thing is just a god damn ploy to garner sympathy. Not one Democrat has said a damn thing, so just shut your dumb, hick-ass redneck mouth.

Posted by: Soup | September 5, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Della the moron

Posted by: Della | September 5, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

The general lack of thought, honesty, and manners on both sides is deplorable. Pols and pundits stick to their talking points regardless of how inane they are. True believers follow them blindly. Anyone who disagrees is flamed. All-in-all, a worthless lot. Ditto most of the people who have contributed to this thread.

Posted by: Zootsuitbeatnick | September 5, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

On Wednesday night, Builiani said that Obama was the least experienced candidate for President in 100 years. His math was wrong.

Actually, the last time a major political party nominated a presidential candidate with less experience than Obama was the Republican party (my party) 148 years ago, in 1860. And by the way, the guy they nominated got elected. If you don't believe me, fish a $5 bill out of your wallet...his picture is on the front.

Posted by: ted in pdx | September 5, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Why praise McCain who was a POW (prisoner of war), while his friends were fighting and dying? So, let's not dwell on that and hear what's the plan to run the country.

Posted by: xyz123 | September 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Hey InkFinger- you must be a liberal left winger eager to crush those who like to exercise their 1st Amendment rights of FREEDOM OF SPEECH!! Get a life...

Posted by: Republican Girl | September 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Dems are going to go down this fall.. see already biden is invisible. Obama seem bleak in front of Bill Oreilly yesterday.. not sure whether he is ready to lead this great nation with all his radical ties with pastor wright, Ayers, Rezko and Kilpatrick who is going to jail soon.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

another mcbush and the most unqualified vp candidate to date. not because she is a women but do to her record.
She fought againts big oil in Alaska, and stoped it due to the Democratic legislature in Alaska. She has absolutely no foreign policy experience on her job title. McCain said: The "Vice presidents job is to assist the well being of the president, and to attend dead leaders funerals."

Source: msnbc.

So are people to take this seriously?

This is NOT sexisim. I'm, just stating a view point, thats all. Not saying you have to or should agree with me. Its up to you. I'm just stating my vciew. I'm not having jabs at anyones political beliefs.

Posted by: Not saying who I support | September 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin... I'm voting for you

Posted by: jitbest | September 5, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I've listened and my gut tells me Obama's motives are self serving. I initially liked him but his lack of experience and I'm going to help everyone tactic is getting old. He's had plenty of time to gain leadership experience or to change things. He would have made an impact by now in the senate if his intensions were to change things up. The only thing he offers is hope and hope is not a strategy. Name one big thing he's done for this country to date. You can't because he hasn't done anything big yet and I'm not voting on him because he doesn't have the creditials yet. Obama, make a difference and gain credibility and then run. Then maybe you can pass the interview process and earn this job.

Posted by: Missourineutral | September 5, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

yeah why don't we put Obama and Palin in the white house let the oldies McCain and Biden be their mentor. Obi and Pali will gorw in their job and make job rotations. A true divers bipartisan ticket that represents a broad spectrum of views...
They can bring their broom and maids and clean up the place and then we can throw a party! United we stand!

Posted by: Unifyer | September 5, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

I really believe that Jeremiah Wright is the six-hundred-pound gorilla in the living room. Anyone who can forget that their daddy was a Democrat and therefore they should be for an hour to review Wright videos from the Trinity Church of Hate, would be better off for the experience. This is real hate, the kind that spreads like cancer until a country falls into anarchy. Obama was and probably still is, a vital part of the Church, that group. Like Edwards, the media don't want you to review or THINK about Wright. Obama's their boy, and you will accept him hate and all - says "they."
Well, if Americans want to turn the country over to Reverend Wright and his junior mentoree, Obama, it is a sad moment in time.
Today's Liberals aren't at all what you read in the dictionary definition. Liberals are Revend Wright, Michelle Obama, Nancey Pelosi, Harry Reid, Jane Fonda, the fat guy that wears a baseball cap and makes anti-USA films, John Edwards the cheater man and so on....
So, this is what I say:
PUMA's for Mccain/Palin!!!

Posted by: Sandra | September 5, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

One should never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.

That's why Republicans keep wining and Democrats keep losing ever since 1980.
After the mid-1970s, the critical mass of thinking Americans contracted significantly, paving the way for the proto-Nazi Republican era.

And regarding your comments on Europe - trust me, you know zilch about Europe. For the 25-30% in federal income tax you're paying you get virtually nothing, not even one year of unemployement, to say nothing of health insurance.

For their 40-50% in income taxes Europeans get everything they need to survive and keep their families intact, and healthy for as long as necessary, should they lose jobs or have adverse life events. Plus the food is so much better, and the culture is so much richer, and the public transportation is much superior, and the women are far more beautiful, and there're far fewer lawyers and stupid TV programs, and soccer is great...

Posted by: VMR | September 5, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I find it very interesting that people don't realize that what gave them the freedom to badmouth our leaders and nominees is the soldiers overseas fighting and dying for us while there are terrorists out there that are working day and night for our destruction. People in this country are so naive because they can't see it from their house. People, before you comment, you need to pay attention to daily activities about what is happening overseas and realize that we are being protected against that happening here in the U.S. As we know terrorists want to eliminate us, this is a time to vote in a president and vice president with experience that can not only protect us against those hoping for our destruction, but can also work internally in the U.S. to make this country a better place. This is no time to play rush and roulette by picking a rookie who only spouts "change" and "yes we can" as proof that he can make it happen. I am sick and tired of hearing democrats say that the right is using scare tactics to elect McCain. These aren't tactics, this is reality and if you paid a little more attention to what is happening and what the terrorists openly say they want to do, you might actually get it! If we compare this election to applying for a job, everybody knows that employers will hire tne person with the most experience so the job gets done right. They know that their company is at risk with someone without experience. In the situation of the presidency, what is at stake is the lives of our citizens and security of our country! I really hope people can step outside political lines to realize this and not just vote for a person because of their political party association or their enchanting charisma.

Posted by: Della | September 5, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

The Democrats seems to used Bush as their strategy for winning the election. I'm a moderate republican, but their tactic seems to turn me off. They should stop being angry and focus on the issue at hand. I think that Sarah Palin has more experience than Obama. I was going to vote for Obama, but Sarah Palin move me on voting back to the republican side. Please don't be a hater just because Sarah Palin relate to majority of Americans specialy the middle class. God Bless to all

Posted by: MNV | September 5, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"I want to stand in the front row at any rally that Barack Obama Bin Laden is at and throw bananas at him! Can the guy look any more like a monkey than he already does??"

It's amazing people like you still exist in this world. Go back to your cave.

Posted by: amazed | September 5, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

oh goodness. I'm going to vote for a candidate based on their speech writing skills alone... that's ridiculous! so what if Obama writes his own speeches? I'd rather him pass a bill that would do us good!

I live in IL, and the only thing Obama has done in Sentate office so far is campaign.

I would really love to be able to get the facts instead of a lot of contradicting media reports. I honestly don't know who to believe anymore. I think I'll do my own research, thank you, and not listen to the media.

Posted by: Joy | September 5, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I don't need a VP who can field truss a moose or caribou. We need someone smart, nuanced and thinks before acting.

Posted by: cilann | September 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

"If we could only test the IQ of America:
The DNC IQ bellcurve was not a bellcurve at all but a straight line consisting of some intelligent citizens and an equal amount of stupid and average citizens. The RNC bellcurve was a normal distribution of American citizens. This normal distribution represents American values and beliefs more accurately. McCain/Palin will win the vote."

Four out of five dentists agree McCain will follow the same failed Bush policy... look, I can make up statistics too. Whee!

Posted by: Martha | September 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

That should have read moose. Typed too fast.

Posted by: So Deceived | September 5, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

A big issue of this election is who has the experience to run America.

Our current President had more executive experience then any one in the current Presidential Election. Plus His father (mentor) was the former head of the CIA plus a Former US President. However he still managed to drop the ball BIG TIME. How come?

My answer is because in modern times old redundant point of views coupled with experience just doesn’t work anymore. It takes experience, with judgment, and a new fresh outlook on this every changing world.

I would love to have the opinion of a Republican, please!!!

Posted by: Shawn | September 5, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Vietnam vet is a crucial reason why all of us should look the other way , I mean any other way, he concedes that both OBAMA and Pain are both inexperienced in the same nature, this class of unintelligence is what gets us into wars and gives the tax breaks to the rich, both un ethical and not a part of our rights as a nation of free thinkers ...free speech was not warranted to unintelligent speaking it was the freedom of political speech, and I hope all of you that read have some sense of bias, and vote from your hearts not the mis guided media hypes
Sarah Palin has a perfect song about her
"SMALL TOWN WITCH"/Sneaker Pimps on BLOODSPORT


Don’t get too fooled by her public speaking abilities!


A note to all by Anne Kilkenny

Dear friends,

So many people have asked me about what I know about Sarah Palin in the
last 2 days that I decided to write something up . . .

Basically, Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton have only 2 things in
common: their gender and their good looks. :)

You have my permission to forward this to your friends/email contacts
with my name and email address attached, but please do not post it on
any websites, as there are too many kooks out there . . .

[ This was already posted on Washington Independent comments area,
with a controllable hotmail account, and was obviously meant by the
author to be read. ]

Thanks,
Anne


ABOUT SARAH PALIN

I am a resident of Wasilla, Alaska. I have known Sarah since 1992.
Everyone here knows Sarah, so it is nothing special to say we are on a
first-name basis. Our children have attended the same schools. Her
father was my child's favorite substitute teacher. I also am on a
first name basis with her parents and mother-in-law. I attended more
City Council meetings during her administration than about 99% of the
residents of the city.

She is enormously popular; in every way she’s like the most popular
girl in middle school. Even men who think she is a poor choice and
won't vote for her can't quit smiling when talking about her because
she is a "babe".

It is astonishing and almost scary how well she can keep a secret. She
kept her most recent pregnancy a secret from her children and parents
for seven months.

She is "pro-life". She recently gave birth to a Down's syndrome baby.
There is no cover-up involved, here; Trig is her baby.

She is energetic and hardworking. She regularly worked out at the gym.

She is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out
there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit.

Her husband works a union job on the North Slope for BP and is a
champion snowmobile racer. Todd Palin’s kind of job is highly
sought-after because of the schedule and high pay. He arranges his
work schedule so he can fish for salmon in Bristol Bay for a month or
so in summer, but by no stretch of the imagination is fishing their
major source of income. Nor has her life-style ever been anything
like that of native Alaskans.

Sarah and her whole family are avid hunters.

She's smart.

Her experience is as mayor of a city with a population of about 5,000
(at the time), and less than 2 years as governor of a state with about
670,000 residents.

During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running
this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been
pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had
given rise to a recall campaign.

Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6
years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
(1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration
weren’t enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed
money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it
with indebtedness of over $22 million. What did Mayor Palin encourage
the voters to borrow money for? Was it the infrastructure that she said
she supported? The sewage treatment plant that the city lacked? or a
new library? No. $1m for a park. $15m-plus for construction of a
multi-use sports complex which she rushed through to build on a piece
of property that the City didn’t even have clear title to, that was
still in litigation 7 yrs later--to the delight of the lawyers
involved! The sports complex itself is a nice addition to the
community but a huge money pit, not the profit-generator she claimed it
would be. She also supported bonds for $5.5m for road projects that
could have been done in 5-7 yrs without any borrowing.

While Mayor, City Hall was extensively remodeled and her office
redecorated more than once.

These are small numbers, but Wasilla is a very small city.

As an oil producer, the high price of oil has created a budget surplus
in Alaska. Rather than invest this surplus in technology that will
make us energy independent and increase efficiency, as Governor she
proposed distribution of this surplus to every individual in the state.

In this time of record state revenues and budget surpluses, she
recommended that the state borrow/bond for road projects, even while
she proposed distribution of surplus state revenues: spend today's
surplus, borrow for needs.

She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas
or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by
her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the
basis of who proposed them.

While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin's
attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.

Sarah complained about the “old boy’s club” when she first ran for
Mayor, so what did she bring Wasilla? A new set of "old boys". Palin
fired most of the experienced staff she inherited. At the City and as
Governor she hired or elevated new, inexperienced, obscure people,
creating a staff totally dependent on her for their jobs and eternally
grateful and fiercely loyal--loyal to the point of abusing their power
to further her personal agenda, as she has acknowledged happened in the
case of pressuring the State’s top cop (see below).

As Mayor, Sarah fired Wasilla’s Police Chief because he “intimidated”
her, she told the press. As Governor, her recent firing of Alaska's top
cop has the ring of familiarity about it. He served at her pleasure
and she had every legal right to fire him, but it's pretty clear that
an important factor in her decision to fire him was because he wouldn't
fire her sister's ex-husband, a State Trooper. Under investigation
for abuse of power, she has had to admit that more than 2 dozen
contacts were made between her staff and family to the person that she
later fired, pressuring him to fire her ex-brother-in-law. She tried to
replace the man she fired with a man who she knew had been reprimanded
for sexual harassment; when this caused a public furor, she withdrew
her support.

She has bitten the hand of every person who extended theirs to her in
help. The City Council person who personally escorted her around town
introducing her to voters when she first ran for Wasilla City Council
became one of her first targets when she was later elected Mayor. She
abruptly fired her loyal City Administrator; even people who didn’t
like the guy were stunned by this ruthlessness.

Fear of retribution has kept all of these people from saying anything
publicly about her.

When then-Governor Murkowski was handing out political plums, Sarah got
the best, Chair of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission: one
of the few jobs not in Juneau and one of the best paid. She had no
background in oil & gas issues. Within months of scoring this great
job which paid $122,400/yr, she was complaining in the press about the
high salary. I was told that she hated that job: the commute, the
structured hours, the work. Sarah became aware that a member of this
Commission (who was also the State Chair of the Republican Party)
engaged in unethical behavior on the job. In a gutsy move which some
undoubtedly cautioned her could be political suicide, Sarah solved all
her problems in one fell swoop: got out of the job she hated and
garnered gobs of media attention as the patron saint of ethics and as a
gutsy fighter against the “old boys’ club” when she dramatically quit,
exposing this man’s ethics violations (for which he was fined).

As Mayor, she had her hand stuck out as far as anyone for pork from
Senator Ted Stevens. Lately, she has castigated his pork-barrel
politics and publicly humiliated him. She only opposed the “bridge to
nowhere” after it became clear that it would be unwise not to.

As Governor, she gave the Legislature no direction and budget
guidelines, then made a big grandstand display of line-item vetoing
projects, calling them pork. Public outcry and further legislative
action restored most of these projects--which had been vetoed simply
because she was not aware of their importance--but with the unobservant
she had gained a reputation as “anti-pork”.

She is solidly Republican: no political maverick. The State party
leaders hate her because she has bit them in the back and humiliated
them. Other members of the party object to her self-description as a
fiscal conservative.

Around Wasilla there are people who went to high school with Sarah.
They call her “Sarah Barracuda” because of her unbridled ambition and
predatory ruthlessness. Before she became so powerful, very ugly
stories circulated around town about shenanigans she pulled to be made
point guard on the high school basketball team. When Sarah's
mother-in-law, a highly respected member of the community and
experienced manager, ran for Mayor, Sarah refused to endorse her.

As Governor, she stepped outside of the box and put together of package
of legislation known as “AGIA” that forced the oil companies to march
to the beat of her drum.

Like most Alaskans, she favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife
Refuge. She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is linked to
global warming. She campaigned “as a private citizen” against a state
initiaitive that would have either a) protected salmon streams from
pollution from mines, or b) tied up in the courts all mining in the
state (depending on who you listen to). She has pushed the State’s
lawsuit against the Dept. of the Interior’s decision to list polar
bears as threatened species.

McCain is the oldest person to ever run for President; Sarah will be a
heartbeat away from being President.

There has to be literally millions of Americans who are more
knowledgeable and experienced than she.

However, there’s a lot of people who have underestimated her and are
regretting it.


CLAIM VS FACT
•“Hockey mom”: true for a few years
•“PTA mom”: true years ago when her first-born was in elementary
school, not since
•“NRA supporter”: absolutely true
•social conservative: mixed. Opposes gay marriage, BUT vetoed a bill
that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships
(said she did this because it was unconsitutional).
•pro-creationism: mixed. Supports it, BUT did nothing as Governor to
promote it.
•“Pro-life”: mixed. Knowingly gave birth to a Down’s syndrome baby
BUT declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life
legislation
•“Experienced”: Some high schools have more students than Wasilla has
residents. Many cities have more residents than the state of Alaska.
No legislative experience other than City Council. Little hands-on
supervisory or managerial experience; needed help of a city
administrator to run town of about 5,000.
•political maverick: not at all
•gutsy: absolutely!
•open & transparent: ??? Good at keeping secrets. Not good at
explaining actions.
•has a developed philosophy of public policy: no
•”a Greenie”: no. Turned Wasilla into a wasteland of big box stores
and disconnected parking lots. Is pro-drilling off-shore and in ANWR.
•fiscal conservative: not by my definition!
•pro-infrastructure: No. Promoted a sports complex and park in a city
without a sewage treatment plant or storm drainage system. Built
streets to early 20th century standards.
•pro-tax relief: Lowered taxes for businesses, increased tax burden on
residents
•pro-small government: No. Oversaw greatest expansion of city
government in Wasilla’s history.
•pro-labor/pro-union. No. Just because her husband works union
doesn’t make her pro-labor. I have seen nothing to support any claim
that she is pro-labor/pro-union.

WHY AM I WRITING THIS?

First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed
voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting
programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny +
Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local
government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.

Secondly, I've always operated in the belief that "Bad things happen
when good people stay silent". Few people know as much as I do because
few have gone to as many City Council meetings.

Third, I am just a housewife. I don't have a job she can bump me out
of. I don't belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no
fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will
cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.

Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100
or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah's
attempt at censorship.

Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to
say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.

CAVEATS
I am not a statistician. I developed the numbers for the increase in
spending & taxation 2 years ago (when Palin was running for Governor)
from information supplied to me by the Finance Director of the City of
Wasilla, and I can't recall exactly what I adjusted for: did I adjust
for inflation? for population increases? Right now, it is impossible
for a private person to get any info out of City Hall--they are
swamped. So I can't verify my numbers.

You may have noticed that there are various numbers circulating for the
population of Wasilla, ranging from my "about 5,000", up to 9,000. The
day Palin’s selection was announced a city official told me that the
current population is about 7,000. The official 2000 census count was
5,460. I have used about 5,000 because Palin was Mayor from 1996 to
2002, and the city was growing rapidly in the mid-90’s.
BLOODSPORT

Posted by: no holesbarred | September 5, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Hey Fred Thompson, Hey look I'm redneck too,

We don't care how much the pigglets squeal, we are going to eat the bacon

Pretty good huh?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Sara Palin thinks that the Iraq war is a mission from god... This war is not "Gods Will" its big oil and arms merchants will. No wonder she thinks this way, here is a quote from the pastor of her church. This is the same kind of talk that convinces Muslim children to become suicide bombers. Hey Sara! Jesus does not advocate war.
"What you see in a terrorist -- that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. ... We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. ... Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. ... I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode.""
It's just plain scary to me that far right Christians could get their hands anywhere near our "Button". People like Sara would be more than happy to end the world thinking they are speeding up the second coming of god...

Posted by: Creamsykle | September 5, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Comparing a human baby to a mouse or deer is just plain stupid! You would have been a great Hitler henchman.
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Obama reasons that he is pro-abortion because if his daughters got pregnant accidentally, he does not think they should be punished by having a child. But you think Palin has no respect for Gods creation because she is a hunter?

Posted by: So Deceived | September 5, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

People honestly come on wake up! Palin as ten times more experience than that crack up Obama. Other than serving his community (big deal I'm a soldier talk about serving), being a bad lawyer, being tied to real estate thieves, and oh yeah that brief stint in the senate Obama has no right leading a country. McCain/Palin on the other hand have had a ton of public service. McCain served his country for almost 30 years in the senate to mention all his military time, Palin who is a governor is more sutiable to run the country than Obama I mean she's in a huge public office postion with many of the same responsibilities as the president only on a smaller scale. And as for Frances Arnettas post please lady wake up if you really believe in God and the bible you will note that uhhh abortion is killing and I think somewhere along that great book it says thou shalt not murder, ok so people hunt animals big deal, the bible talks of hunting for sport and wha about all those poor animals the preists killed for sacrafice, im sorry your obviuosly some old southern gal who has never picked up the bible in her life and just goes off what Reveren billy joe told you that sunday. Anyways and as far as the war shut up until youve been there, you people against the war have no idea about how much good were doing for those people. 80 percent of the country was without running water, schools, electricity, or means to get everyday lifes basics. Since we've been there most of the country has electricity running water, we have set up schools and have hored teachers for the local kids, and provide the people with everyday things like toothpaste, toilet paper, books, magazines, the list goes on and on. So please dont judge the war on those liberal controlled news media stations you watch. So anyways the best pick for this country as I see it are McCain/Palin!

Posted by: DisgruntledSoldier | September 5, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

You democrats are a pretty sad bunch, you have no choice but to buy into the empty suit that Obama is because that's who your silly party gave you and you have no ability to make a rational independent thinking persons choice. Now you have an upside down ticket, Biden clearly should be the top and perhaps obama as the veep, but not really.
You dems are so pathetic so silly, Hillary was the obvious choice and you would have had a clear path to the White House, but your silly party chose to buy into Obamas preacher like promises and you couldn't resist, then when the Reps put a woman on the ticket which the dems should have done you panic like the silly people you are, the silly press on your side try to tear her apart because you are afraid of her and feel stupid for having jetisoned Hillary, now all you can do is show support for a person who has not a single qualifing reason to be president of the USA, silly democrats are you all really that desparate to win at the cost of ridiculing your country, as much as you have ridiculed your own party, it's really pathetic.

Posted by: Spacecowboy | September 5, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"With all John Mccain's experience, he sat there while GW Bush wrecked America..." AND Obama sat there for 3 years and looked pretty.

Don't make decisions on anything important to play it safe and run for president. last I checked, Presidents should have an opinion and act on them. Not sit on the sideline until it's convenient.

All this blaming Bush is getting almost ridiculous... What about the do nothing Congress? A bunch of time wasted sitting around arguing who's smarter than who looneys. Ever been in a meeting where a bunch of people who think they're somebody... lot's of irrelevant talks, at the end of the day they leave w/no accomplishments?

But of course it's so convenient to slam one person and not the whole do nothing congress. Aren't we tired of all the talk yet? Elect someone who's willing to walk the talk. and stop pointing fingers already.

Posted by: Kim | September 5, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Palin: I hate! You suck! Drill ANWR!

McCain: Why hate? We suck! Drill oceans!

Like some weird Mad Magazine Spy vs. Spy episode...

Posted by: JayBen | September 5, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

the dem. or demwitt who said that it was not a right but a previlage to live on earth is a nut. it is a right to live on earth. it a previlkage for the amnials to live on earth. to feed us and cloth us. i would rather have 20 more years with the rep. tha one day with the god hateing, baby killing ,gun control, tax raising tree hugging wacks of the dem. party

Posted by: tanktag | September 5, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a Pentecostal. She believes the end of the world is near. If the Republicans win in November she will be a heart beat away from the Presidency. Do we want someone who believes the end of the world is near to have access to nuclear weapons? Come on, people.

Posted by: Chris | September 5, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Palin is a Pentecostal. She believes the end of the world is near. If the Republicans win in November she will be a heart beat away from the Presidency. Do we want someone who believes the end of the world is near to have access to nuclear weapons? Come on people.

Posted by: Chris | September 5, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Politics are politics and its not pretty.Never was.
MacCain and Palin are both gun hoe and the flag is a cover up.
The reality is power and money. In other words big corporations just like for the tandem Bush/Cheney are hiding not very far from the action.
Palin is holding a gun in one hand and a bible in the other but hiding behind those Judeo-Christian symbols, there is a much bigger price to win.The WhiteHouse.Whatever it takes.
She is a far right radical a fanatic only interested in proving the world God is on her side. She is from Idaho so remember this is where radicals anti governement and neo nazis factions proliferate .But no one except may be Obama will talk about it.
Never mind voting for the McCain's team no matter how you turn it is the same as putting Bush for another term only difference it will be with even worse consequences, incompetence and more ignorance than never before.

Posted by: bob | September 5, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE REMOVE the comments by Republican Girl. Racist and offensive, they have no place in an intelligent discussion of presidential politics.

Posted by: Inkfingers | September 5, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh how i cant wait for the debates. The debates will show who is on there game. Has anyone seen the youtube video of obama when his teleprompter goes down. Hilarious. He doesnt stand a chance.


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Posted by: Fastarizona.com | September 5, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

How foolish and naive you are. Keep underestiming the brilliance of Palin. She handidly beat a Republican incumbent who was a political powerhouse for 22 years. Your wishful thinking that she is clueless is once again false hope just like Obama Bin Biden.

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when will Palin be available for an interview?

repubs are scared to have her answer questions about her positions and lack of knowledge.

Posted by: False Hope | September 5, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama reasons that he is pro-abortion because if his daughters got pregnant accidentally, he does not think they should be punished by having a child. But you think Palin has no respect for Gods creation because she is a hunter? C'mon.

Posted by: C | September 5, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Probably could. Sorry - I don't go for all the political correctness BS that's taken over this country. I say what I think and if people don't like it, then that's too bad. But if you think that I'm going to vote for a left wing liberal who sits in a church for 20 years with a pastor spewing crap along the lines like "the white man's holding us back" - then you're sadly mistaken!!!

Posted by: Republican Girl | September 5, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

So I was actually impressed with Palins speech. Though I am a little scared about her lack of foreign experience.

But I talked with a very "strong mom" last night and she made so much sense to me.

Palin needs to be at home! She has a new baby with down syndrome and a daughter thats pregnant. Her role needs to be with her family. Taking the VP role is selfish and show a lack of strong famliy values.

Posted by: EyesWideOpen | September 5, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

If we could only test the IQ of America:
The DNC IQ bellcurve was not a bellcurve at all but a straight line consisting of some intelligent citizens and an equal amount of stupid and average citizens. The RNC bellcurve was a normal distribution of American citizens. This normal distribution represents American values and beliefs more accurately. McCain/Palin will win the vote.

Posted by: Okie Republican | September 5, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The notion, that somehow one has to be an extremist to possess singular credibility when speaking for a group, has become a tiresome reality of our political landscape. The simple fact is that neither Christian Evangelicals, nor Pro Choice Activists, have a monoply on the truth. Yet we have allowed those fringes to define both "Conservatism" and "Feminism."

I am a male, in my mid 50's, raised by a strong woman, married to another strong woman, both remarkable individuals, who countered the underlying prejudice of their respective days with hard work and deication, those two indespensible ingredients of all achievement, which each, by the way, has earned. Their quiet determination, grace, and innate sense of fairness, define for me the true notion of feminsm, which is the idea that ability is not bounded by gender. Yet neither is pro choice, so I ask, "who speaks for them?" For many women, that voice is Sarah Palin, and I am saddened and disappointed that her accomlishment is being debased by the professional finger pointers of this world.

We were yelling at each other over a burning flag 40 years ago; I suppose nothing has changed.

Posted by: Bob | September 5, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Mark
I lived for years in Eastern Europe and I wish just people would understand the Caucasus problem better.
In South Ossetiais is a high population of Russian speaking people and nationals there was over years tension and for this reason Russian peace keeping troupes were station there. There are Ossetian extremist on both sides who are causing the problem and are of course supported by their governments.

Fact it that the conflict got in Georgian troupes marched into South Ossetiais with the Russian harsh and not acceptable responds by invading Georgia. I want just to make the facts straight. OK!
Russia has an old-fashinon army with lack of combat experience and has demonstrated this to their embarrassment to all western military experts. Otherwise Ukraine and other of Russian neighboring states would have kept their mouth shut.
Due to the Globalization our politics have changed and become more dependent from each other; countries and wealth people have invest huge amounts of money or own even properties in other countries. Remember the most expensive house Trump sold to a Russian billionaire.

Posted by: Tom | September 5, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I adore Palin and would buy anything she was selling. Folks are overlooking something here. The stock market looks pretty dismal. The economic sky is falling. When it falls, and it will, I would like a woman's empathy for skyrocketing fuel and food prices. We need ALL brain power in Washington - to heck with bipartisan politics. Doesn't anybody notice -- we are in serious trouble? Neither party can "Fix" the big mess. Knowing this, I still vote for Palin. I simply like listening to her and feel confident in her abilities. Period.

Posted by: kathleen keane | September 5, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

The hypocrisy displayed by McCain last night was unbelievable. He tries to 'divorce' himself from Bush, and then lays out an economic 'plan' (if you can call it that) that comes right out of a MacroEconomics 101 class. It was all the same old general supply side theories, he didn't even PRETEND to have an original plan to help the economy of the nation. Then, he tries to say he will reach across the aisle, when he has brought on a right-wing book banning, dissenter-firing fascist who the night before gave one of the most vitriol laced speech I have ever seen. Finally, he encourages people to 'give back' to thier community, while he let his minions like Guilianni and Palin sneer at 'community organizers'. And that fact that he does not see any of his own contradictions shows just how out of touch he is.

Posted by: Obama all the way | September 5, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, I also cant wait for the debate. It would tell us a lot of things about the candidates. Words coming out of their mouths not any campaign ads or ridiculous claims.

Posted by: Waiting | September 5, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

McCain like most Republicans are blood thirsty for war. I watched the RNC and all I heard was his POW story and the surge bologna.
If you want to see the economy get worse and Iran attacked by all means vote for McCain.
He is an out of touch cynical old man. His nickname isn't McNasty for no reason.
As for Palin I can't wait for Biden to make her look like the fool she is come the debate.
It's hilarious to watch the Republicans get worked into a frenzy anytime war, God or guns are mentioned. War is great for Republicans so long as someone elses children fight it. And don't mention McNastys kid was in Iraq. There is no chance McNasty's or Palins kid will ever be on the front lines. They will be well protected behind a desk.
I wonder if Palin will change McNastys diaper if they get elected?

Posted by: KzooTom | September 5, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Republican Party has no platform. McCain is a bigger idiot than Bush. I know thats hard to believe

Posted by: Bob | September 5, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

The posters here are pathetic. None of you understand the issues. You have all been programmed by one liners provided by the media. You are supposed to read the articles not just the headlines. How can government get things done when the electorate is as ignorant as you posters. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

Posted by: raisingArizona | September 5, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Translation Guide for the Secret Language of the Republican Party

* "Drill Now": We'd much rather increase our oil drilling production by 3% than reduce energy consumption by 35%, and we'll still be able to say (with the little conscience we have left) that "we did everything we could". What we'll not tell you is that the U.S. already has more oil wells (over 510,000) than any other country in the world; the problem of course is that our wells simply don't produce nearly enough oil. Even if we drilled every inch of the 68-million acres of U.S. land available today for oil drilling, the costs would far exceed other options and we'd still have to import well over 50% of our oil.

* "Fight for your future": Fighting ensures we can keep giving money to our defense industry - and since we're using the military as a substitute for a poverty and welfare program, fighting over there keeps our lower classes from fighting over here.

* "Culture of Life": We need to control your life in order to maintain our expensive culture. Eventually, we're going to ask you to give your life to also support our culture, but let's wait until you're of fighting age first (see above).

* "Urban Elites": Rich people who care for poor people - we hate them!

* "Ethics commissioner and chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission": Haha, get it? That one always cracks us up.

* "School accountability": Let's create some really good excuses to underfund public education.

* "Communism": socialism for the poor.
* "Capitalism": socialism for the wealthy.

* "Reduce the death tax...capital gains tax...business tax": We really believe the only people who should pay any taxes at all are those who work a salary for a living. Shhhhh, please don't tell them though.

* "Victory in Iraq": We sure as heck aren't going to ever go after the Saudi, Egyptian, and Pakistani perpetrators of 9/11, they are all way too tough. So let's keep beating up on the playground pansies Iraq and Afghanistan lest someone catch on.

* "Community Organizer": We really can't have people doing selfless good works for all the right reasons, so we're going to make this sound as much like a communist-leaning inner-city gang member as we can.

* "Obama lacks experience": We'll never ever ever admit that a Harvard Law Degree magna cum laude, president of the Harvard Law Review, civil rights attorney, 12 years guest professor of Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago, 3 years community organizing and outreach including establishing a job-training program, 8 years in the Illinois legislature, over 3 years in the U.S. Senate, a seat on the Foreign Relations Committee, 2 published books, and over 36-million votes is pretty damn impressive for a man of 47. Nope, you can't make us listen...nah nah nah nah we're covering our ears.

* "Executive Experience": Able to make snap decisions without the irritating input of the populace, and well-versed in the black arts of manipulation and corruption.

* "Pro-life under trying circumstances": If impregnating our teenage daughters is all it takes to keep us in office for 4 more years, you've got a deal!

Posted by: Dahlia Pace | September 5, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Politics is entertaining again! This is from Palin's theme song at the convention:
"If the real thing don't do the trick,
you better make up something quick,
you gonna burn burn burn burn burn"

Oh, the delicious irony that Palin's handlers would select that song to blare loudly at the convention. And last night on the Colbert Report we met the Colorado blogger who was first with the idea of Palin as VP after she was governor only 2 months.

Posted by: rn9513 | September 5, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow, could you get more racist there Republican Girl?

Posted by: Xander | September 5, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin are exactly what this country needs to expose and end the corruption of the political establishment.

News flash - McCain's speech last night had more viewers than Obama's speech last week. Discerning Americans who have wisdom and whose priorities are right will vote for McCain/Palin. I still have confidence that most Americans love freedom, recognize that we are the most blessed country in world, and that most of the world's citizens would give up everything to live here. I have been to nearly 60 nations. We are so blessed. McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: God Bless America | September 5, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

People who are supporting McCain because of his (false) reputation as a maverick have to realize that electing him is electing a zillion other Republicans to fill the government. How many more Rumsfelds, Tenets, Gonzalezes, Feiths and others can this country take?

Posted by: james | September 5, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse


I think it is rather selfish to keep portraying Mccain's military heroism of 30 years ago when we have young men and women who are paying the ultimate price in Iraq,or loosing limbs and so forth due to a war he supported.This is 2008.There are 2008 problems today which are valid reasons not to vote republican.Are the soldier's in Iraq not heroes.The Republican obssession with 30 years' ago history is clear that they are Not in touch with today's reality.Yes, we Can,change is coming to Washington via an Obama LANDSLIDE!

Posted by: TheTRUTH | September 5, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I want to stand in the front row at any rally that Barack Obama Bin Laden is at and throw bananas at him! Can the guy look any more like a monkey than he already does?? Shame on Americans if they fall for this shallow smooth talking liar!

Posted by: Republican Girl | September 5, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

when will Palin be available for an interview?

repubs are scared to have her answer questions about her positions and lack of knowledge.

Posted by: hst | September 5, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

I have to laugh sad at those who take this woman seriously. I have to weep for those who attacked Obama’s preacher for his words from the pulpit, but cannot or do not want to hear what her preacher said about Israel and Jews, they are being punished for not being born again in Christ. My gosh she has lied and lied about her record fighting corruption in Alaska. She fought corruption only in words and sound bites. But then that makes her a big part of the GOP and the republican party. Does she want change? No she does not!


Posted by: Archie Haase | September 5, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't McCain pick a running mate who is an expert on the economy? That is what matters to most Americans, not the tired old Christian Right issues that Palin represents. McCain used to be an outstanding guy...until the Manchurian implant.

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Amen to that. I know Biden was a boring pick for Obama, but he shored up a weak spot on the ticket. McCain could have picked an economic powerhouse to do the same thing, and although I lean toward Obama, it would have forced me to concede that McCain had a stronger economic ticket. That would have made me think harder about my choices.

Palin brings nothing to the table for me other than the specter of a president who has less than two years of experience as a governor of Alaska and a handful of positions on random topics that I personally find unacceptable (removing 'objectionable books' from libraries). I'll admit she's doing a lot more for the far right and for people who vote on religion, but I care most about core issues. Economy, foreign policy, and the ability for the US to lead the world in a positive direction.

I am not a hockey mom, and I don't get jazzed up from hearing people talk rough and tough. I know that I have nothing to gain from oil drilling in ANWR (it seems like a few weeks ago, everybody realized this, and then somehow we all just forgot?), and I am uncomfortable with the idea of religion guiding the policies of the White House. I don't have anything personal or insulting to throw at Sarah Palin. She believes what she believes, and I think that's fantastic. She's undebatably a successful governor and probably a fine mother. I still don't want her to be my Vice President.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse


Family is very important to Obama. He visits his brother's shack and slips him a dollar every century.

Posted by: reason | September 5, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Don Hwong, that is a very good point: "It seems the Republicans draw on the emotions for the love of USA and blind people with that singular vision, while the Demos focus on the needs of people, open and objective."

I noticed that, too. There's a lot of misleading of the American public by the Republicans, I think, from what I've watched them do in D.C. You'll see them saying things that promote traditional values and evoke patriotism/love of country, stoking up the sort of robotic "USA, USA, USA" chanting like you saw at the convention.

It really is scary when you watch the Republicans portray themselves that way to the American people, then flush them down the toilet and act, for the most part, only in the interest of corporate greed.

Posted by: Aaron | September 5, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

The open-minded, inclusive democrats are now going to do a repeat of the hatchet job they did on Hillary directing it at Palin. While Obama wails away about kids being "off-limits" he demonstrates either his lack of control of his own campaign or his mean- spiritedness for allowing the dogs to trounce a pregnant teenager. I suppose this is what "Chicago style" politics is all about huh?

While the media, completely complicit in aiding their comrade, let's Obama’s obvious lack of experience go unaddressed, they concentrate on a woman who has served as on a city council, as mayor and as governor having the audacity to call her inexperienced.

And while she was taking in real experience, what has Obama done - oh I forgot he was a stinking "community organizer".

Did you see his retort regarding Palin addressing his lack of qualifications? His comeback dealt with him having greater national CAMPAIGN EXPERIENCE. Can you spell imbecile? All he did was reinforce her point.

Some people can be on the job for 5 years and come away with 60 months experience while others will be there 5 years and come away with 5 months experience 12 times over. Obama apparently fits the later case perfectly.

Good thing he is a democrat because as a republican he would still be sweeping floors which is exactly where someone with no experience belongs - not as a presidential contender.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Let's see...do I have this right? The talking heads are saying that the Republican conservative base has endeared the Palin family values of fornication out of wedlock, adultery and her statement that we are in Iraq on a mission from God? I think I need to talk to my pastor about this.

Posted by: Grrrr | September 5, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

There was a time I might have voted for McCain, but he is not the man he used to be. He has surrendered all his principles for that last desperate grasp at the Presidency. He has supported the party that despised him for many years (look at Limbaugh and Bush during the last election), and caved in to the far-right of the party (remember the "agents of intolerance"?) After totally supporting the failed Republican party for the last eight years he says he is going to change it? After giving a convention with the worst partisan attacks and smears ever he is going to be a "uniter, not a divider"?
If the American public buy this they are even dumber then I thought.

Posted by: Michael | September 5, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

"Picking an inexperienced Palin as a running mate assures that I will vote for Obama" is a mantra heard over and over the last few days from supposedly on the fence people. Actually they were never on the fence, the just needed
to feel better about voting for a man with so little experience.

Posted by: Etrok | September 5, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I am a democrat and was feeling naseum while watching the Republic Convention. Here were the people that control our government for the last 8 years with the presidency and congress. They got us into this economic mess. The price of gas was $1.35 on average, now it is $3.45. We are spending $10 billion a week on the war in Iraq on a false pretense (sold to us on national TV) that they had nuclear material from niger. When a cia operative's husband stated Iraq did not have nuclear material. Chenney and his staff exposed the CIA operative. This is treason, folks. Moreover Palin and McCain attack the political elite in Washington. Bush was the man, he was the emperor. Now the emperor is not our friend. This is plain and pure hypocracy. Man up to the truth. Republicans are lying through their teeth and will probably convince everyone else that McCain was a war hero, and should be the next emperor. I was in Vietnam, I remember that people protested the war. I don't remember the vietnamese having any weapons of mass destruction. Did the vietnamese ever bombed any planes, or step foot on our continent? We had no business in vietnam. Emperor McCain was a war hero for bombing hanoi. If he had landed in Brooklyn after bombing us, we would have know how to deal with people that bomb us. He would not have been a prisoner of war.
Wake up folks this is a charade based on lies and pointing fingers. The emperor's friends are pulling wool over our eyes.

Posted by: vietnam vet | September 5, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I am overjoyed Sarah Palin
is in the race,
it was just getting so
boring....
obama is liberal,
inexperienced,
so what,
he puts on a great show!!!
And now,
so does Sarah!
They need to leave
McCain at home.
he doesnt bring anything
to the show,
in fact,
biden and mccain
should go back to
washington
and do their usual
nothing
for another 25 years!
OBAMA/PALIN!!!!!!!!
change we can believe in!!

Posted by: usa3 | September 5, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Ok lets draw some analogy here, Because Busha and mccain are from same party they will behave alike

Bill clinton and Obama are from same party they will behave alike with Woman in Oval

Does this justify, Come on Bush was party leader what he had done was his vision his leadership, for that case Mccain is more experienced senator than bush himself what is the deciding factor for voting, Party or person or ex president or his wife

Posted by: MRN | September 5, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

It was commented about Obama "Does his record indicate he always sticks to what he says under any circumstances, no"

Isn't that the ideology of George Bush that got us into this mess in the first place. I am not thrilled about Obama as much as I once was but I still feel McCain is just to stupid to be president.

Posted by: Eric | September 5, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Particularly in light of McCain's rebel personna and then total surrender to the hardline Bushies in 2000, he is the polar opposite of a maverick. Talk about getting in line. He really is the biggest sell-out in memory. Now. Lieberman is a maverick, he's is the most disloyal politician around. But, it's really not about Bush or McCain,it's about the Republicans who always favor the rich and powerful at the expense of the United States of America and her citizens. We can't afford much more, they are gutting this great land.

Posted by: zedog | September 5, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I don't want to compete with emerging global superpowers with a sarcastic, condescending, small thinking hick of an ideologue at the helm.

Posted by: JC | September 5, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

SAYWHAT:

Jesus ministered to the poor and suffering, which those in community service also do. And Pontius Pilate was a governor, by the way.

Posted by: Jamie | September 5, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

72 year old Evangelical woman. Your Bible also states that God "hates those who shed innocent blood." Did you know that your Obama favors infanticide? Not just abortion but infanticide.

With the upcoming Presidential election in America we are facing a turning point in American history. Here are some facts that you will not hear from the worldwide media...

In defending his view of killing babies in the mother's womb, it is well known that Barrack Obama said that when one of his daughters becomes a teenager if she got pregnant he would "not want her to be punished with a baby. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbZJYWjkAPo)" Obama openly stated at Rick Warren's (author of the Purpose Driven Life) Saddleback Church that he would NOT have appointed the three pro-life Supreme court judges.

What is little known and unprecedented is that Obama was the only Senator in the United States to vote against protecting the life of a living baby outside of the mother's womb. In other words, he supports infanticide. The following video shows you this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Sarah Palin's speech last night is one of the best speeches I have heard in my lifetime. If you did not hear the speech it is worth watching. By the way, she is an Assemblies of God woman who was actively involved in the church, an A/G camp counselor, and the head of the Fellowship of Christian Athletes in her high school. You can see her powerful speech by clicking here - http://www.gopconvention2008.com/videos/

God's people must stand up to protect the life of the innocent. We must not only pray but we must also get involved. The greatest way we can do that is by educating our family, friends, constituents, and colleagues with the truth.

Michelle and I for the first time gave to a Presidential campaign because after praying I was under conviction when reminded of the words, "Where your treasure is there will your heart be also." Our hearts are with every baby inside and outside the mother's womb that Obama wants to give woman the right to kill.

Babies are the Best!

Posted by: From an Evangelical Minister | September 5, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

With all John Mccain's experience, he sat there while GW Bush wrecked America. He didn't stand up and say, you shouldn't invade Iraq because they're not the real threat, Afghanistan is. He didn't stand up and say, follow the Geneva conventions and under no circumstances do to prisoners what the VC did to me because it IS torture. He knows what kind of people the Bush Crime Family are. They bent him over in 2000 and yet, he put his arms around George Bush and said that in every significant way, he supported GW Bush. That's not character, that's support of party before country. That's politics as usual. That's why McCain isn't fir too be the next POTUS.

Stop the insanity, get Republicans and their incompetent followers out of government before they completely destroy America.

No More Years!

Posted by: thebob.bob | September 5, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

People keep saying that Obama has no plan on how he's going to change the government and country. Well let me ask you this. What is McCain going to do? He has not spoke once about anything that he's going to do to help the country. Obama has. All McCain has done is attack those who are opposing him or running against him. He has no plan. All he has is empty promises.

Posted by: Xander | September 5, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I have to hand it to the Republi-fascists: regardless of the truth, no one throws vitriolic invective like the Republicans. It's mean-spirited, well-targeted, jingoistic sloganeering sure to get the base inspired. Whenever the Demo-wimps reply, it's never as good, it's never as effective, the Republi-fascists can always claim the replies are wimpers of a dying campaign, and the simplistic American public believes everything they hear. >>

Posted by: Mark | September 5, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

a message to ohio / michigan / florida colorado /virgina . have the last 8 years been good ? has there been any improvement in your financial position ? we made a mistake following this economic path 4 years ago , its time to fix it. I watched gop speeches and john mccain told me and you he was a hero .....40 years ago. fine he is. then he told ohio / michigan that hes going to stand next to you while you go back to Community college ...feel better ? be honest with yourselves.

Posted by: wolverine | September 5, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama in only three years made congress more transparent, brought millions of uninspired Americans back into the conversation, has created the biggest grassroots organization in the history of politics, has raised more money than any political figure in history. Has repeatedly been right on foreign policy only to have the republicans come around and see it that way as well, was sate legislater in one of the biggest cities in the worl. Understands diversity, hs actually been out of the country, he is wicked smart, has a law degree from harvard, and is new enough to Washington to not forget where he comes from AND he is not telling you that if you dont support him you are unpatriotic...........owe, but he is black..........he must be the Antichrist........And Palin. She was mayor of a town the size of my Highschool probably has never left the country, and thinks we should teach creationism in schools and throw out any books that disagree with her.........her own family cant live up to her standards.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse


Obama's economic plan:. 1 dolar a month and a cardboard shack for everyone.

Hey if it's good enough for his brother, it's good enough for you.

Posted by: reason | September 5, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

he sucks

Posted by: No McCain | September 5, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

The whole John McCain experience thing is balderdash. It's like telling Americans Dick Chenney has enough experience to be President - which he does, but who needs another Dick Chenney or George Bush?

Also, if you tried to have a State Trooper fired because of some family issues, you will fire US Attorneys that disagree with you. Does that remind anyone of something?

Posted by: Luckdress | September 5, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that no one as drawn a comparison between Sarah Palin and Darlene McBride (Mad TV). The way she gritted then sucked air through her teeth before delivering an insult is classic McBride. I was laughing hysterically has she spoke but hadn't realized why until today.


Posted by: j r bryan | September 5, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Palin poured acid all over every Democrat or anyone who believes in those unalienable rights we are endowed with by our creator, along with those other pesky principles of our Constitution, a document she, remarkably, didn't mention even once.

It was the same old divisive, polarizing, self-righteous, pious rhetoric. Not lofty like "their opponent," just unjustifiably self-righteous and superior. She adopted the Bush Doctrine of polarizing, disingenuous "if I say it on TV it must be true" impossibly skewed hogwash, that does nothing but encourage alienation and mutual disdain. Her words purposefully set out to widen the already historic divide in this country. She took the ball and ran it into a fiery pit. It was by far the nastiest, most belligerent speech I've ever heard. Rove's fingerprints were ALL over it, and most of it was indeed written by Bush speech writer Scully, prior to Palin's even being chosen as the running mate.

That was more of the same extreme right wing, Rush Limpbrain, vicious bunch half-truths, untruths, and outright lying, hypocritical "snide," propaganda! Her "family values" comes with a mouth on it! I'd like to snatch that "Palin Poof" right off her head!

I'll tell you something else. I'm making a prediction . . . I know the Democrat who's going to hit back . . . wait for it . . . Hillary Clinton! Palin thinks she's the "barracuda" hit woman? Hillary Clinton is a going to squash her like the annoying, little sock-puppet insect that she is! Palin just made sure there's not one single Hillary-hold-out left with a shadow of doubt about voting for Obama, including Hillary herself in the deepest reaches of her soul! She wants to be a history-making feminist? She's never MET a feminist!!!!!!

She better not "whine" about sexism again after she said Hilllary was a "whiner" during the primary. She better not "whine" about her kids, after they staged that meet and greet at the airport for her daughter and the baby daddy, and they better not "whine" that anyone is being mean to her and making it personal, after she leveled that kind of assault on the character and sincerity of all Democrats!

Posted by: Teri B. | September 5, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Hillary is going to eat Palin alive...you just wait

Posted by: No McPalin! | September 5, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

John McCain said that he was not going to forget about the oppressed, the developmentally challenged, the people in hard economic times - sounds like a new democratic social program to me. Wait a second, when he was talking about a service greater than yourself and how fulfilling it was to give of yourself was he saying that we all better get out there and volunteer our time helping the downtrodden because his govt. won't?

If John McCain is so discouraged about a corrupt congress than why didn't he do anything about it the last 28 years? All of sudden he is waking up? He is a part of the problem - not the solution.

John McCain's lack of sound judgement in picking Sarah Palin as next in line for the presidency should anything happen to him is scary at best. If she does succeed him as president she wil have to hand pick a vp with far mor experience than her - who will then effectivley run the country like Dick Cheney. And we will not have had any say in this selection. That is scary.

Sarah Palin - if she was truly interested in serving the country and not her own self interests she would have turned down the VP offer because she does not have the experience to be President.

Posted by: frank meyer | September 5, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Obama's first job after college was in community service. For three years, he worked in a poor community, organizing resources for after-school programs and literacy, as well as helping meet basic human needs. That work was done largely through churches (hello, faith-based intiatives!) For this he made a tiny salary, while also choosing to live in the community he was serving.

Palin's first job after college? She was the "sports girl" on the local Anchorage TV station.

If Palin wants to dish it out, she better be ready to take it. She is a fraud in every possible way.

Posted by: Jamie | September 5, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Every American should be grateful today. With McCain/Palin finally Reagan's American Conservatism is back!

Posted by: Conservatism is Back | September 5, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Obama promises the world and no plan to deliver. I feel bad for his supporters that actually believe his statements and hollow promises.


http://www.FastArizona.com

Posted by: . | September 5, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I am a 72-year-old Evangelical Christian woman, and there is no way on earth I would vote for McCain and Palin. McCain, because he is lacking in basic knowledge about domestic and world affairs, and because I like Obama's intelligence, character, and plan for improving America. I'm against Palin because I like Joe Biden for the same reasons I like Obama. In my opinion, Palin is an arrogant plunderer, with no respect for God's creation. My Bible tells me that we were given this earth to nurture and protect, not destroy wantonly. It also says that a righteous person cares about the life of an animal. Jesus said, "Love your neighbor as yourself." Yet, this woman spews hatred and division amongst human beings. She doesn't care about the plight of the polar bear and wants it taken off the endangered species list. She has a dead grizzly bear standing in her office. If you believe in the giver of life, why would you celebrate death? Maybe she NEEDS to prove she is tough, but the truly strong person is compassionate. She has reinstituted the aerial shooting of wolves, and wants to drill in the arctic wildlife preserve. Before we even think of any more drilling we need to ask ourselves, "What happened to the Alaska pipeline oil?" In the 1960s and 1970s we were told that it would forever end our dependence on foreign oil. So it was built. Guess what? We are selling this oil to foreign countries, and the same thing would happen again, because the big oil moguls need to line their pockets, and the heck with everything else. Stop and think, people. Don't be fooled by all the sentimental (and hate-filled) rhetoric of the Republican convention.

Posted by: Frances Arnetta | September 5, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

"Wow Susan, come down off the soapbox already. It's rants like that that make me wonder if sexism really isn't a bad thing. You obviously blow things way out of proportion and all it does is make you look stupid."

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:09 PM

The only thing blown out of proportion is Obama in the press. By the way, you sound like one of the pointy-headed, condescending liberal geeks that I spoke of. You,re probably six-months behind in child support. As far as looking stupid, you white boys with heads so far up Obama's backside look pretty stupid to me. Why don't you go get some counciling fron Jerimah Wright? That's where Obama went for twenty years.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I almost feel sorry for liberals trying to portray themselves as main stream Americans. They don't understand that most Americans care more about how much a gallon of gas or a loaf of bread costs than arguments about alternative energy. They care more about a good job, low taxes, a decent education, and a secure place to live than waiting for big government to deliver them to the "promised land". The majority of Americans know that pro-life/pro-family character issues are morally correct. They know that neither Holywood nor the ABC/NBC/CBS networks represent their convictions. They know that while Obama is smart, articulate, and holds the richly deserved admiration of a large number of his party, McCain just may be America's Winston Churchill, and Palin may acheive what neither Hillary nor Geraldine could.

Posted by: Dave | September 5, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Doug, you described the campaign by saying there are "two months of sound bites to go". Excuse me, but if this is true, it's really depressing news! What about the issues of competence and knowledgeability?

We came into this campaign with a clear sense of the disasters that happen when an ignorant, foolish man gets elected president. The focus of the campaign should be the assessment of the knowledge and job skills of the candidates, not which one produces better sound bites.

You, Doug Feaver, as a journalist, can help restore sensibleness to this campaign by focusing resolutely on competence issues, and ignoring all of this sound-bite garbage.

Posted by: Bruce Hayes | September 5, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Why would someone put their hope in a man who has accomplished very little in his life and empty promises? How desperate can you be? Obama Bin Biden are liberal do nothing Senators - that is their track record. Look it up! When have they ever stood up against their own party that controls the House and Senate with a single digit approval rating? Never - so much for change. If that is not more of the same what is?

Posted by: Why False Hope? | September 5, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is the new Obama, The new most famous person in the world. Uh Oh, Wonder if she is a
Muslim too? Or worse, the anti-christ?

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Its all about Palin for the next few weeks. It might be a bad thing that she is more Popular then McCain.

Posted by: Pete | September 5, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Just think of the liberal European countries and the 40-50% taxes they pay. They have BIG government who controls how many hours you may work a week. Ever go shopping at night in Europe? Ya, they only open 1 night a week. Their unemployment rate is so much higher. We pay on average 25-35% taxes (middle class) and we are already complaining. If the Democrats take over, we'll be like Europe. Expect to cuddle up at home in the evenings cuz there won't be much to do after 6!

Posted by: Candace | September 5, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Obama''s list of experience, education, wisdom and courage:


William Ayers - American Terrorist
Raila Odinga - Cousin, Radical Islamist
Raul Reyes - Columbian Terrorist
Antonio Rezko - Slum Lord
Professor Khalidi - Muslim Terrorist Supporter
Reverend Wright - Racist,Supporter/Preacher, Anti-American
Reverend James Meeks - Racist
Reverend Louis Farrakhan - Racist Nation of Islam / Faux Preacher
Reverend. Jesse Jackson - Racist - Anti-Semetic
Nadhmi Auchi - Muslim Billionaire
Sohaib Abassi - Muslim Millionaire

Posted by: dragonfly777 | September 5, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Give me a break.....

Jesus was not a community organizer...he was the Son of God. Jesus didn't seek political power he said to honor it. Jesus didn't create a phony Caesar Seal to give his speeches behind, he spoke to the masses without grand stages. Jesus was not for the slaughter of the unborn. Most importantly Jesus was here to be the sacrifice for the sins of mankind.

Maybe you idiots should actually open a Bible and read it.

Posted by: SAYWHAT?!? | September 5, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

She was a journalism student who went through six colleges to get one degree. That is some feat. Well given she is a journalist by training and worked as TV sports caster, is it any wonder that she could read a telepromter that well ? And it doesn't hurt that she was a runner up in the Miss Alaska contest; it makes her telegenic. The speech was written by somebody(s) else, probably Karl Rove and his buddies, all she had to do was to deliver it by reading a teleprompter, a thing she has done as an occupation. And fighting crooked oilmen in the relatively backwaters of Alaska for a couple of years isn't enough to run a complex American government and perform effectively on a world stage. About the mayor thing: please there are countless high school students, across the USA, who are running such small town governments while attending school! Big deal. Now we will know if she can debate on her own. She is more celebrity than any Republican would ever try to make Obama out to be. And the silly baseless jokes she tried on Obama do not a national politician make. She a fad, an act, that will fade in a couple of weeks.

Posted by: JoeMann | September 5, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Tired of corrupt, long serving politicians? Tired of nothing getting done? Tired of seeing the big corporations get the breaks by purchasing legislators? Tired of all the lies?
YOU can stop this insanity. The only voice we have left is our vote.
For the next three elections vote AGAINST every incumbent. Don't like either the Rep or Dem candidate? Write in or go 3rd party. Just DON'T vote for any incumbent.
Please share this message.

Posted by: AWENSHOK'08 | September 5, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

The self declared Maverick showed 10% wiggle room in the past 3 decades ... that's how many times he did not closely follow Bush... why would anyone believe he would - after 27 years w/o deviation from the party line - all at a sudden change?

Vivifiant, Ohio

Posted by: Vivifiant | September 5, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

How does one trust Obama ? he didnt pass big laws neither had done lot of work with legislation ? Mccain has the record.For the sake of speaking even a 6 the grader can talk abt inssues if he goes through some sites. Has Obama proposed a solid plan of how he is goign to get the change rolling, No!!!! .Does his record indicate he always sticks to what he says under any circumstances No.. he filp flopped on many issues then what the Hell is making people believe he is great Leader !!! Yes its the MEDIA creation, they are so against republic party , understandable but it was same media that supported Bush and his war fears and got him elected. This time they are again Misleading the public.No one can save if mistake is repated again and Obama is elected., prosperity of america and american dream will be history

Posted by: MRN | September 5, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

All this talk of 'experience and p.o.w and honesty aside, let's just consider one item straight from John McCain's own mouth. "I have supported President Bush 90% of the time'.
We as a country simply cannot tolerate any more of the Bush years and a vote for McCain will send us further into this downward spiral we are on.

Posted by: Dan McClain | September 5, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

for waynethebrain - I think your name really is nobrainforwayne. And, even if Obama was a muslim, so what. Not all muslims are terrorist

Posted by: equalrightsforall | September 5, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Tired of corrupt, long serving politicians? Tired of nothing getting done? Tired of this seeing the big corporations get the breaks by purchasing legislators? Tired of all the lies?
YOU can stop this insanity. The only voice we have left is our vote.
For the next three elections vote AGAINST every incumbent. Don't like either the Rep or Dem candidate? Write in or go 3rd party. Just DON'T vote for any incumbent.
Please share this message.

Posted by: AWENSHOK'08 | September 5, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

the RNC convention inspired me --- to build my own website that lists the FACTS on sarah palin and the FICTION in her VP acceptance speech (ww.boycottpalin.com).

people are crazy to just take a man's word and run with it ("you mean it's not true?! but they SAID it in their speech!"). sarah palin had a chance to prove to America that she was someone of substance. but she chose to continue on with the Republican low-blow campaigning that is making me sick to my stomach already.

i mean how many heartstrings do they think we have - they've played them all by now.. down syndrome baby, mommy with a job (i'm a woman by the way), layoff my pregnant teen mean media!, hockey mom, POW...

the RNC made me SICK. i mean WHAT exactly does the oklahoma bombing have to do with anything - are McCain/Palin suggesting they are going to "wipe out" radical militias within the U.S.? - i was confused by that one. and can anyone figure out just exactly they are going to do for us? i listened to 5 Republican speak and all they had to say was "Obama sucks".

Posted by: boycottpalindotcom | September 5, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow Susan, come down off the soapbox already. It's rants like that that make me wonder if sexism really isn't a bad thing. You obviously blow things way out of proportion and all it does is make you look stupid.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Face the Facts:

Cindy McCain has been on 50 medical missions in some of the most poverty and war stricken places on earth and no one even knew about.

Likewise, prior to this election cycle how many people knew that McCain had suffered for five years as a POW in a prison camp in Vietnam. That is unbelievable sacrifice that none of you critics would face. A true American hero verses an egocentric community organizer. This election is a no-brainer.

McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: Dont Be Deceived | September 5, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

BUT PEOPLE WE NEED A LEADER NOT A BABOON WHO CAN MAKE A SPEEC THAT SOMEONE ELSE WRITES...

Posted by: ARTIE BURRIS | September 5, 2008 11:45 AM
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Artie, vote for who you want, but out of the 4 folks on the 2 tickets this year, Obama is the only one that writes his own speeches.

Apparently, the "baboon" is a bit smarter than the reptiles that you are choosing.

You have your right to be offensive, but be advised that you are exposing your own incalculable stupidity.

Posted by: duriseti | September 5, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I have been waiting eagerly for the RNC and to hear McCaine and his VP choice lay out their plan to improve the economy. I was genuinely surprised how vague their plan is. McCaine backed up his promises with his word. I can't take that word to the bank, it's no better than GW's unfulfilled promises. I'm done with these people. If McCaines weakness wasn't bad enough, everything else, including Palin was about hate, exaggerations and lies. I can't take that to the bank. Neither of them should be president. I'm not sure if I can bring myself to vote for the dems but I'm not voting for these people and neither are a lot of my neighbors I spoke to.

Posted by: Fed Up | September 5, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I agree with one of the other threads. The Republican Christians are not Christ like at all and palin certainly is not. The Jesus Christ I know was all about helping the poor and less fortunate......if he were alive today he probably would be a community organizer and certainly would not be ProWar and ProGun. The Republicans are more interested in tearing people down than helping. Forget the rhetoric....look at the facts. Every time they are in office the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, and we go to war. Definitely not Christ like.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"Why don't you hear Americans at the Democratic National Convention shouting, "USA, USA, USA." Why don't you see "right" wing conservatives acting like lunatics and disrupting speeches by the Democratic nominee for President? Why don't you see conservatives protestings, bashing windows, and getting arrested at the Democrats convention?"

1)Because democrats don't believe in gross exploitation of the flag / patriotism / troops.

2/3) Because Democrats don't promote extremist policies that inflame individuals and all other nations around the globe.

The fact that there are only demonstrations like this against your party on such a large stage should actually tell you something about your beliefs and policies. You'll never get it will you?

Posted by: k | September 5, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"Palin's telemprompter went out during her speech. Then it went too fast. This has been all over the news.

Palin was never connected to the AIP in Alaska. This is a flat out lie and ridiculous."

First off, all we have to go on is the word of the Republicans on the first issue. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't. Prove that it did and I'll believe it.

The 2nd part, it is a proven fact that her husband was a part of the AIP until 2002 when she started into politics. There's your link. Don't be too quick to call people ignorant without anything substantial to back it up.

Posted by: Xander | September 5, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Liberal men and the liberal media have attacked women like Sarah Palins daughter and Sarah just like B. Clinton used the liberal media to destroy the women he molested, Ted Kennedy used the media to protect him after Mary Jo was killed in his car, John Edwards was protected by media for a year while he cheated on his cancer-stricken wife,Obama is protected after sitting and listening to Reverend jerimiah Wright and his Trinity Church of hate, and on and on.
The NOW gang is a thin band of rabid lesbians and liberal extremists...the women's movement is dead thanks to liberals. I'm over it!
PUMA's for Palin!!!!!

Posted by: Susan | September 5, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Excuse me Doug, but your headline to the story is bogus - there was what one or two "support" that you listed. Please don't falsify your headline to attract readers and use it to negate McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Candace | September 5, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Virginian you are so right!

Posted by: mike | September 5, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Why didn't McCain pick a running mate who is an expert on the economy? That is what matters to most Americans, not the tired old Christian Right issues that Palin represents. McCain used to be an outstanding guy...until the Manchurian implant.

Posted by: kglamsch | September 5, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

To all those saying "why is Obama making a big deal out of the Community Organizer thing? It's not like Palin was saying it's a bad thing". Of course she was. She was basically saying that it doesn't count towards anything. So all those people who got healthcare and a better community to live in don't count either huh? Guess who else was a community organizer. The Christ man. So apparently his contributions didn't mean anything either by her standards?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Some of you on this thread are very ignorant...

Palin's telemprompter went out during her speech. Then it went too fast. This has been all over the news.

Palin was never connected to the AIP in Alaska. This is a flat out lie and ridiculous.

Posted by: Ignorance is Bliss | September 5, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

This is my first time to watch the conventions. It seems the Republicans draws on the emotions for the love of USA and blinds people with that singular vision, while the Demos focus on the needs of people, open and objective.

What I don't understand is that if USA is the strongest nation in the world, we should love and not "fight". Right? Could it be possible, because of the monochromatic values of the Republicans caused their difficulty in accepting the needs of others.

Posted by: Donald Hwong | September 5, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I cant wait till McCain gets in office. He will show the world we wont put up with any overseas crap. It's payback time baby. Bush was stupid to blow up iraq then not get the oil. That oil is ours, they owe it to us with all the money and men spent there, and we should be reimbursed with oil, because there money is worthless to us. I would really hate to be the guards that held McCain as a POW, they better run fast as they can.

Posted by: Crush the Dems | September 5, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

I have great respect for McCain as a war hero, and I think he could have made a good president once upon a time. However, he is clearly not "maverick" if he's pandering to the far-right evangelical movement. The "Christian Right" reviles the separation of Church and State, and for a group who claim to bristle at the thought of "the government telling people what to do," they apply this sentiment quite selectively. The Christian Right is absolutely fine with the government telling you who you can and cannot marry, and what you can and cannot do with your body. In other words, the government shouldn't tell people what to do -- unless it forces them to follow church dogma. Real Republicans should take back their party and kick the zealots out. Make "Evangelicals" create their own party. Better yet, give them their very own state, where they can insulate themselves from "bad" values such as science, tolerance, and critical reasoning skills.

With McCain's choice of Sarah Palin, he assured that I would vote for Obama-Biden.

Posted by: independentwoman | September 5, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I am sick of hearing the dems whine about Obama being called a community Organizer... He is the one who said it!!  No one is down grading the position, but it DOES NOT make you ready to be President. I know lots of Community volunteers and organizers with college degrees.. and even they say "it doesn't make me ready to be president"  It amazes me that there are that many Americans who are ready to be TAXED TO DEATH by Obama's proposed economic plan.  Everyone complains about the price of fuel, then supports a platform to increase ALL your expenses.  Wake up and get original.... McCain will be four years of McCain for America... As opposed to 4 years of terroists attacks on our front steps and Obama wondering why the bright lights, media and cameras aren't protecting him anymore.

Posted by: amazed | September 5, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm a libertarian, so I disagree with both McCain and Palin on a number of issues. However, I believe McCain to be honest, and I believe he honestly chose Palin because she understands oil and energy. Most Americans misunderstood Russia's invasion of Georgia during the Olympics. Closing Georgia's pipeline didn't just take a million barrels a day off the world market, it completely stopped oil exports from Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan - both countries recently freed from the former Soviet Union. In one fell swoop Russia crushed one newly-freed country, intimidated two more and got away with it because Russia controls the valve that shuts off Europe's energy supply. Palin understood that fact. Like it or not, we cannot be independent of foreign oil for decades, if ever, and I believe McCain saw the value in having a VP who understands oil, essential knowledge for the next decade.

Posted by: Mark | September 5, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I think somehow the right wing whackos think that the end of the world is near and either they should hasten it or should sit down and pray hard... Thats why they are rallying behind a woman who has no respect to the environment. and brings up GOD GUNS MOOSE and OIL in everything she says. When will they learn and that living on earth is a privilege and not a right....
They really need see a psychiatrist.

Posted by: raj | September 5, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Rush Limbaugh wrote on his website:
Our Hope for the Final Night
Just for one night, drop the "bipartisanship" stuff.

"Jindal dashes Democrat dreams of destruction"

SO much for bipartisan republicans....

Posted by: Mike | September 5, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

It is with great sadness that I view this election seeing how the McCain ticket is behaving. McCain may be a good man and may have made a good president IF he didn’t pander to the radical religious right, nominate Sara Palin, a woman of dubious background and stood his ground on the basis of the constitution: basic freedoms and respect for ALL including all races, Religions and orientations. But alas, respect for our founding fathers vision of equality for all is not one of his "Family Values" anymore.

Prejudice and hate disguised as "moral values" is still prejudice and hate. Not honoring the tenant of a nation that honors ALL religions, not only Christians, is unconstitutional and short sighted.

Not dealing with the true challenges of our country is the largest misstep of all. Abortion and a woman’s right to chose was already decided and entails an emotional consequence for any woman that has to make that choice. To make this a current political issue is merely being divisive and is impressing a religious intent on a deep personal issue, not something a secular government need do. Maybe dealing with the economy, the deficit and the failed war of a misguided Bush administration and corporate corruption would be a better use of your time and ours, the people that would have supported you?

But not nominating a qualified VP if God forbid something happens to you Mr McCain is unconscionable to the American people and the Republican Party. I guess doing what would be "popular" is better for you than what is better for our country.

Till the Republican party starts to honor ALL people in our great country and stops the corporate funded corruption of our politicians and the one sided religious pandering, Obama/Biden is the only choice for anyone of fairness, honor and patriotism.

Posted by: Phil FTL | September 5, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

There are going to be people who support either McCain or Obama simply because they do or do not like them. There are others who will support a candidate because he is their party's nominee. Arguing point with either group is akin to teaching a pig to sing.

For the remainder of people who intend to vote, there are two questions to be asked and answered:

Do you agree with their stated policies? Not the policies their opponent tries to tag them with, mind you, but the policies they have outlined themselves.

Do you think they have a chance of implementing those policies? A sitting U.S. President is pretty powerful, but not a dictator (as our current president has lamented previously); you have to judge whether or not they can do what they promise to do.

If people are going to argue, my thought is they should be arguing those two questions, and leave the emotional drama out (as much as possible, anyway).

Posted by: Bryan | September 5, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse


Are people even reading the articles, they jump right to the comment just to spew their hate! say something relevant to the article!! Like Palin sucks - or something

Posted by: Tom | September 5, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I am a pro-life, Catholic mother of four children. Before I decided to stay home full time to take care of my kids, I worked as an attorney.

I attended Catholic schools from grades K-12, have marched in pro-life rallies in Washington, and have been a regular lector at Sunday mass for the past 10 years.

I am also a true independent voter. I voted for President George Bush once, for President Bill Clinton twice, and for President George “W” Bush twice.

All that said, I cannot bring myself to vote for the Senator McCain/Governor Palin ticket.

Senator McCain proposes to give the very wealthiest among us a tax cut which will average $120,000/yr. per household. As a Catholic, I was taught to give to the poorest amongst us.

And Governor Palin’s doctrinaire willingness to impose her values, morals and religion upon on those she governs is the antithesis of what 38 years of living as part of the one holy catholic and apostolic Church have taught me.

(For example, Governor Palin slashed state funding to an Alaska transitional program for unwed mothers while she accepted and kept federal funds for the bridge to nowhere. She also continues to build a state highway leading to that bridge to nowhere. In other words spending is fine as long as it doesn't contradict her moral world view).

As a Catholic, I was taught to take care of all of God's people, even those whose choices we don't agree with.

Let me conclude with the Prayer of St. Francis:

“Lord, make me an instrument of your peace; where there is hatred, let me sow love; when there is injury, pardon; where there is doubt, faith; where there is despair, hope; where there is darkness, light; and where there is sadness, joy. Grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console; to be understood, as to understand, to be loved as to love; for it is in giving that we receive, it is in pardoning that we are pardoned, and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.”

Posted by: Virginian | September 5, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

I find it amazing, Obama says I will give you more money by lowerign your taxes and make business pay your share. Sounds great, except when business raise the prices of everything to pay for Obama's taxes. Obama is a great front man, lots of fluff, lots of buzz in his speaches. He may be the best man at giving a speach that I have ever scene but he has never done a thing. I am not sure that he has ever really run anything, and running a campain for 11 months is not running the country. He has no military service but wants to be commander in chief, he has never authored a piece of legislation but has found time to write 2 autobiographical books. He talks the talk, but his record says he does not walk the walk. By the way to all of you Dems trying to say that McCain is Bush's third term, I say this an Obama presidentcy is Jimmy Carter's second term and who can afford that 20% interest rates, inflation out of control, and every piss ant country walking all over us.

MCCAIN/PALIN 2008

Posted by: John | September 5, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

McCain has proved his love for our country through his sacrifice. I had no idea that he suffered for 5 years as a POW. Obama trying to tie him to Bush is so stupid. Everyone knows that McCain has been his own man and why he has faced so much criticism by people in his own party. I love that McCain even chastised Republicans in his own party last night. It takes a real man to do that because it is certainly not the norm. You don't hear Obama Bin Biden chastising Democrats for the corruption in the Democratic party.
The McCain/Palin ticket makes me proud to be an American!

Posted by: Proud to be an American | September 5, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Didn't Fred Thompson at the RNC just critisize Obama for reading from a teleprompter, while Fred and Palin and all of them were reading from a Teleprompter? I heard the speech that was written for her was written weeks before, and then they just updated it a little. Her Journalism degree sure came through for her, I'll give her that. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4077105039690042419&ei=203BSIOuEaG-qgORnZnRCQ&q=lieberman&vt=lf&hl=en

Fred Thompson at RNC: "When Palin and McCain are elected they don't care how much the alligators get irritated, they're going to drain that swamp!" What the hell does that mean. We are going to take the homes of hard working Americans no matter how much the complain?

Posted by: RNC Hillbillys | September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

One topic being given almost no coverage in the press is Sarah Palin's political philosophy. I am concerned about Sarah Palin's connections to the Alaskan Independence Party. The AIP seeks a vote on whether Alaska should secede from the United States. Gov. Palin is shown on the AIP website greeting its members at a recent convention. Her husband belonged to the AIP until 2002 when her political plans began to grow. How could she have shown such poor judgment in addressing the convention of a group whose founder is rabidly ant-American? How could John McCain have shown such poor judgment in not being aware of this?

Posted by: Cliff | September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

No matter what the Republican hate machine says, they will watching their next President, Mr. Barack Obama take office

Posted by: Haters | September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I think a lot of people are missing the point of this article. The comments are a good example of this, between the poignantly articulate argument of "mccain is substance, obama is fluff. mccain sez he'll go across the isle, obama sez nothin of the sort. obama flip flops tons, mccain very little" from Haters, and the very technical "I don't think nanny nanny boo boo is gong to win it for McCain" argument from Obie.

People are relying too heavily on rhetoric and propaganda for their political information, and not looking into the issues from several angles to get the real story. How many citizens can claim that they read both liberal and conservatively skewed news sources in the search for truth, or will look into not only what's being reported, but what's NOT being reported? I'm not going to plaster my own political views here because I believe it will fall on either mindless supporters or unwilling ears. Go past the reds and the blues, the north, south, east, west, and the left and right, people. Stop making decisions based on who you want to have a beer with, or who you want babysitting your kids, and please, please, please make an informed, educated decision based on policy and politics. This isn't a high school popularity contest; its a presidential election.

Posted by: Charles | September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I posted earlier today but forgot to tell you that I'm a Demo but voting for McCain. Why you ask? Because Obama has too many connections with terrorist, you know the ones that attacked us on 9/11. Who are the terrorist? Ayres and the hate preaching of Rev. Wright and Obama sat there for 20 years and did not have the guts to get up out his pew and leave the church. Thats why!

Posted by: waynethebrain | September 5, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I am a Canadian who cannot vote and have no party connection. I followed both the DNC & RNC. While the DNC spelt out specifics the RNC went about the opposite. Does the average American understand that they have been taken for a ride the past 8 years and do they want more of the same?

Posted by: Ranjan | September 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

"Why don't you hear Americans at the Democratic National Convention shouting, "USA, USA, USA." Why don't you see "right" wing conservatives acting like lunatics and disrupting speeches by the Democratic nominee for President? Why don't you see conservatives protestings, bashing windows, and getting arrested at the Democrats convention?

Anyone who watched both conventions can see through the smoke. Americans who are proud to be American will pick a proven war hero over a media darling any day. McCain/Palin 08"

Posted by: answer this? | September 5, 2008 11:53 AM

Thank you. Democrats will never open their eyes to the truth. All they can do try and point out the wrongs of the Republican party (with hardly any reliable sources). I'm not worried about Obama winning. With the actions of the Democrats, he won't stand a chance.


http://www.FastArizona.com

Posted by: Thank You | September 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

This election is not about people. This is about the issues. Republicans want small government except when it comes to the woman's womb. They want to make sure those that can start business and run businesses continue to profit. Democrats want to share the wealth with the less fortunate. What I like coming from the dem's now is personal responsibility. And we all can agree that if we encourage all to have personal responsibility then we can help those that are incapable of helping themselves.

My main concern with Palin is that she is so far right that our children could learn creationism in school. This should be taught in church not school. She may believe in the rapture which I think is dangerous when they have the ability to blow up the planet with nuclear weapons.

Posted by: raisingArizona | September 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

To Explain This?

They were Anti-War protestors genius. They weren't there to support McBane, but rather to oppose him. I love how things can get spun so easily.

Posted by: Xander | September 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

I think a lot of people are missing the point of this article. The comments are a good example of this, between the poignantly articulate argument of "mccain is substance, obama is fluff. mccain sez he'll go across the isle, obama sez nothin of the sort. obama flip flops tons, mccain very little" from Haters, and the very technical "I don't think nanny nanny boo boo is gong to win it for McCain" argument from Obie.

People are relying too heavily on rhetoric and propaganda for their political information, and not looking into the issues from several angles to get the real story. How many citizens can claim that they read both liberal and conservatively skewed news sources in the search for truth, or will look into not only what's being reported, but what's NOT being reported? I'm not going to plaster my own political views here because I believe it will fall on either mindless supporters or unwilling ears. Go past the reds and the blues, the north and the south, and the left and right, people. Stop making decisions based on who you want to have a beer with, or who you want babysitting your kids, and please, please, please make an informed, educated decision based on policy and politics. This isn't a high school popularity contest; its a presidential election.

Posted by: Charles | September 5, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Selling the plane on E-bay is not reform!

Posted by: Palin is a joke | September 5, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

i love how you have 2 comments supporting mcCain, and a dozen supporting obama. liberal media indeed.

Posted by: adam | September 5, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Wow, I'd love to get into this sophomoric debate. However, like the majority of Americans who are going to vote for a man and women who will not waiver in their commitment to do what they believe is right, rather than what is politically expedient, I have to go back to work. We'll leave the blogging to the, evidently, unemployed minion of the welfare messiah. Looking forward to November 5th!

Posted by: Scott | September 5, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

To Tiredofsniping:

Welcome to the wide world of Politics. But what you don't see behind the curtain is that the Repubs are doing just as much blog bashing. It's just that the Democrats aren't using it as fodder like the Repubs are. It just goes to show the level of which they are willing to stoop to win this election. They have no real platform, so they'd rather attack Democrats than figure out what they're trying to accomplish.

Posted by: Xander | September 5, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Why don't you hear Americans at the Democratic National Convention shouting, "USA, USA, USA." Why don't you see "right" wing conservatives acting like lunatics and disrupting speeches by the Democratic nominee for President? Why don't you see conservatives protestings, bashing windows, and getting arrested at the Democrats convention?

Anyone who watched both conventions can see through the smoke. Americans who are proud to be American will pick a proven war hero over a media darling any day. McCain/Palin 08

Posted by: answer this? | September 5, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the “unfair” media coverage the republicans are whineing about … just look at FOX and Rush Slimeball to get "unbiased news" … I don’t think yet the republicans have figured out that most of us have computer access to the INTERNET. If I want, I can compare and contrast new stories until I find the truth. But, of course, McCain didn’t use email until last month … what planet do the republicans live on?

Posted by: vs | September 5, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Palin is Palin-in comparison. I can't wait for the debates, maybe she'll teach the viewers how to skin a moose. I hope she is drilled and challenged and treated just like one of the guys because that was her approach in her speech. Let's send her back to Alaska where she belongs!

Posted by: Dale | September 5, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

YES!!! and they don't even care...
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Drill-baby-Drill is quite frightening...any large group chanting like that reminds me of Nazi Germany 1930's - Typical Republicans...don't look for any other source, just destroy everything we have now until it's gone! just remember Exxon Valdez (ALASKA) 1989 10,800,000 GALLONS SPILLED!!! I guess Palin hasn't learned the first time!!! You people scare me!

Posted by: Drill your mom | September 5, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Same old political party partison garbage.seems to me I remember McCain was in office during the last gas crisis 70's and Jimmy Carter was critized and voted out after warning that a more serious problem was on the way!!! And whatever happened to the Solar Panels on the White House that Carter put in, oh yes I remember now Reagan took them out!!!
How come no one ever brings up McCains involvement in the Keating Five scandals?? I guess it wasn't that serious when old people lost millions in retirement funds!!!Old people don't count unless your name McCain!!! God Bless America and give someone else a chance!! We need NEW IDEAS and RESULTS for the WHOLE COUNTRY , not just a FEW!!!!

Posted by: rusty,tucson | September 5, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I like John McCain because he doesn't always do what the Republican Party wants him to do. Many people who enthusiastically support him now actually hated him earlier this year when it looked like he was washed up. Sarah Palin is a different story. She is an opportunist. This unvetted VP may be more dangerous to this country than Osama bin Laden. I think McCain made a deal with the devil (GOP) when he chose her to be his running mate. The GOP knows that they can't control McCain, but they can control Palin. If McCain wins, he shouldn't expect the devil to keep his word.

Posted by: hamishdad | September 5, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

As a Canadian who's lived here in the U.S. for many years, I find American politics fascinating. People claim to care about the issues, but are drawn unwittingly into partisan sniping and wild claims that are blatantly false to anyone with their critical thinking hats on. In the end, the people of this remarkable country are going to vote for the person they can "relate to," without regard to policy ideas or memory of the recent past, and then will spend the next years complaining bitterly about how bad things have gotten.
Like I said, American politics are fascinating.

Posted by: thevagabond | September 5, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Keep it up, Democrats, and I, along with thousands of other independents, will leave you on one side of the street cross over and joint John & Sarah.

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Really? So you're going to base your vote on who leads the nation on what bloggers on the internet say to you? You should consider that Obama is the least snide, insulting, and divisive person in either campaign. Even if you don't think so, perhaps you should try voting your own politics instead of letting the internet decide for you.

Posted by: Joe | September 5, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I have to wonder, does McCain actually want to win the white house? What could he have been thinking in tapping Palin as vp? She is nothing but a strident extremist that will drive off independant voters. Its sad that someone with so little to recommend her other than the support of the far right should be considered for one of the most powerful positions in the world.

Posted by: carlin | September 5, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

I can honestly say that this web site is just like the news media channels. just a democratic website never showing the real good facts on both sides. Without the Replublicans i fear the future of the middle class people will be no longer, and you can take that to the bank!!!!

Posted by: carolyn | September 5, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Artie, quit yelling at us telling us how stupid you are...try lower case!

LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT, FIRST TIME EVER TO PLACE A VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN IN AND FORM OR FASHION, BUT PEOPLE WE NEED A LEADER NOT A BABOON WHO CAN MAKE A SPEEC THAT SOMEONE ELSE WRITES...BETTER WAKE UP THIS YEAR AND USE YOUR HEAD AND VOTE FOR JOHN M CLAIN ,AN AMERICAN AT HIS BEST NOT A UNKNOWN PERSON.WE NEED A GOOD LEADER AND HE IS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB... ARTIE

Posted by: ARTIE BURRIS | September 5, 2008 11:45 AM

Posted by: ARTIE | September 5, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

After realizing that his party had no platform, Mc Cain steals Obamas. Time to say good bye to Mc Bush and try something new. Four more years of Bush will break the back of our great country. If Obama's plan does not work, throw him out in four.

Posted by: Hoffmann | September 5, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

It is sad and tragic when some people must resort to sensationalism, lies, and contrived rivalry when so much more is at stake. It's time to step above it, Republicans, if you're party is to have any grace and dignity going forward. Are you a nation that's going to rise up and pull itself up again or a nation of bickering 1st graders?

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

In his speech, Senator McCain advocated bipartisanship, a message completely inconsistent with that of his contemporaries. If John McCain can't even grab hold of his very own party - to control the vicious, bitter and false attacks of his colleagues - then how can he be expected to take on the role as President? Same-old.

Posted by: Watcher | September 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

No we don't want America to have an elite attitude thats why most of Europe doesn't like us today because we act as though we are above everyone else the fact that some obama supporters use the phrase redneck is very telling of their opinion of Conservatives in general when obama said its not that mccain didn't care but that he didn't get it that was condensention of monumentous proportions

Posted by: Sittre4you | September 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Suck it up Soldier!
Fear 9/11, play that video one more time,
it will happen again.
4 More Years!

Suck it up Soldier!
John McCain was crucified at the hands of the
Romans/Vietnamese, stop your whining.
4 More Years!

Suck it up Soldier!
The Liberal elite Media
is to blame for Republican failure in the
past 8 years.
4 More Years!

Suck it up Soldier!
Sara Palins more qualified than
all the Senate combined, she's the most
popular Governor in the whole world.
4 More Years!

Suck it up Soldier!
You're an Army of One.
Your're on your own. Pull yourself up
by your bootstraps, nevermind you don't have any.
4 More Years!

Suck it up Soldier!
John McCain's been in Washington
25 years, voted 95% with Bush,
he's a Maverick.
4 More Years!

Suck it up Soldier!
FEAR! Fear Change.
FEAR! The other Guy,
He brings Hope and acts like the
messiah, Jesus. Let's belittle him.
4 More Years!

Suck it up Soldier!
The bad economy's is all in you're head.
I suffered without health care in the Hanoi Hilton,
you should accept to suffer too.
4 More Years!

Not This time. No Way, No How, No McCain.

Posted by: Nina | September 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Dems,

Do you remember 1964 Goldwater vs Johnson.
Goldwater 36 vs Johnson 64. Fast forward to 2008. McCain 64 vs Obama 36. The Hippies of the 60's were in control. Today the Hockey Moms of the 00's are in control.

Posted by: Ron | September 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Drill-baby-Drill is quite frightening...any large group chanting like that reminds me of Nazi Germany 1930's - Typical Republicans...don't look for any other source, just destroy everything we have now until it's gone! just remember Exxon Valdez (ALASKA) 1989 10,800,000 GALLONS SPILLED!!! I guess Palin hasn't learned the first time!!! You people scare me!
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Very well put...and that's just the one near Alaska, not mentioning around the world and in our own backyard! Take a look...(of course, Republicans won't read it, i don't think they can read, just parrot the same hateful nonsense they here from their redneck buddies as if it's fact!)

http://www.environmental-research.com/publications/pdf/spill_statistics/paper4.pdf

Posted by: No Drilling... | September 5, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I laugh at all of you that think Obama will be any different then Kerry. The Dems still have to prove to the Nation that they want the hot seat. That's why the Republicians keep winning, if because the Democrates have never wanted it as bad as they do. Sure the Republicians care nothing more about the Presidentcy other than the power that goes with it, but until there comes a leader that's willing to take that away they will remain in power. Will Obama be that leader? I don't see it right now, but maybe he can do it.

Posted by: Sosul | September 5, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Analysis of what's REALLY most important to voters in the election.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viVAAy_qkx0&feature=PlayList&p=869F1FBA218EB2B2&index=8

Posted by: MN | September 5, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

While I'm an independent, I (this election) find that the Democrats are crude, ill mannered, devious, hard to swallow, deceptive, will say anything the truth or otherwise, and are not rational esp. the bloggers. They offend me with their crude statements half of which they make up. Keep it up, Democrats, and I, along with thousands of other independents, will leave you on one side of the street cross over and joint John & Sarah.

Posted by: Tiredofsniping | September 5, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

"Drill baby drill". What an embarrassment these people are. The GOP is the party of my grandparents. Only they would be entertained by these clowns.

Posted by: K | September 5, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

People keep commenting that Palin is the average mom and representative of mothers in this country. Well, that's right, as long as those average moms have above-average income. She has the ability to make choices average moms don't. She not representative of the mother who has to make a choice on WHETHER to take her child to the doctor OR buy food and pay the rent and electric. She does not have to make a choice on WHETHER to take time off from work with her sick child and have that time deducted from her pay. She does not have to make a choice on daycare based on whether she can afford that daycare...i.e., choosing the lower-quality daycare because it fits the budget.

Frankly, I don't see that she has the ability to lead this nation in an emergency if something happens to the President, and that is one of the qualifications of a Vice President.

Posted by: average mom | September 5, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Palin is a political, cynical, gimmicky choice. Even Peggy Noonan agrees. She was chosen to appeal to the ignorant red necks. GOP is party of the Homo Ignoramus (they look like human beings with a subhuman primate brains). They are ill-informed, hateful and intolerant, thanks to Faux News, Limbaugh, Coulter. Bush is destroying this country. Woodward says he's the most divisive president. Same with Palin, a hard-core right wing nut. What does it take for the Rethugs to realize that? McCain will more of the same. Why does the GOP want to destroy America?!
BTW, McCain's speech sucked.

Obama/Biden 08

Posted by: Snappy | September 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

In response to Average-Jane: We will hear about John McCain's POW storiy far less than Obama's Neighborhood Coordinator stories. By the way what does a NC do and who did he report to? I bet the big Union Bosses of South Chicago! I'll vote for McCain because he is genuine and has no connections to terrorists.

Posted by: waynethebrain | September 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I have had every intention of voting McCain if Obama was nominated. Although I have never voted republican in my life, I was a democrat because this party stood for equal rights untill Obama ran in this primary and it became obvious that the democratic party no longer stands for equal rights. I watched as the Obama camp and media used race baiting and sexist rants while Pelosi, Reis and Dean helped Obama with the sexist rants. It is sad that in this year folllowing 8 years of Republican BS we will again lose the election but this time we lose due to Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Dean's bad actions and lack of any good actions. Hillary has been a trooper for the democrats but that does not mean that any woman should vote for Obama with his sexist and race baiting. Do Hillary proud. Show her that we democratic women do think for ourselves and when we said NOBAMA, we meant it.
vote McCain/Palin 2008 and Hillary 2012

Posted by: jodi | September 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT, FIRST TIME EVER TO PLACE A VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN IN AND FORM OR FASHION, BUT PEOPLE WE NEED A LEADER NOT A BABOON WHO CAN MAKE A SPEEC THAT SOMEONE ELSE WRITES...BETTER WAKE UP THIS YEAR AND USE YOUR HEAD AND VOTE FOR JOHN M CLAIN ,AN AMERICAN AT HIS BEST NOT A UNKNOWN PERSON.WE NEED A GOOD LEADER AND HE IS THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB... ARTIE

Posted by: ARTIE BURRIS | September 5, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Cooday: You would rather have fight them on our soil?
Ask the 3000 lost souls and untold loved ones left behind if that is what they would vote for.
Continue to drink the Kool-aid and vote for the black Jim Jones he also promised his followers everything for no sacrifice.

Posted by: Robert | September 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Because I can't stand the "Flip-Flopper" Comments by the right... here's some of McCain's Flip-flops...

* McCain criticized TV preacher Jerry Falwell as “an agent of intolerance” in 2002, but has since decided to cozy up to the man who said Americans “deserved” the 9/11 attacks. (Indeed, McCain has now hired Falwell’s debate coach.)

* McCain used to oppose Bush’s tax cuts for the very wealthy, but he reversed course in February.

* In 2000, McCain accused Texas businessmen Sam and Charles Wyly of being corrupt, spending “dirty money” to help finance Bush’s presidential campaign. McCain not only filed a complaint against the Wylys for allegedly violating campaign finance law, he also lashed out at them publicly. In April, McCain reached out to the Wylys for support.

* McCain supported a major campaign-finance reform measure that bore his name. In June, he abandoned his own legislation.

* McCain used to think that Grover Norquist was a crook and a corrupt shill for dictators. Then McCain got serious about running for president and began to reconcile with Norquist.

* McCain took a firm line in opposition to torture, and then caved to White House demands.

* McCain gave up on his signature policy issue, campaign-finance reform, and won’t back the same provision he sponsored just a couple of years ago.

* McCain was against presidential candidates campaigning at Bob Jones University before he was for it.

* McCain was anti-ethanol. Now he’s pro-ethanol.

* McCain was both for and against state promotion of the Confederate flag.

* And now he’s both for and against overturning Roe v. Wade.

Posted by: Cronos | September 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

I fell bad for John McCain and I see him as a very bitter angry old man that will start WW3. Did I hear him say he wants to start crap with the Russians?

I am afraid WW3 is inevitable very shortly after John McCains inaguration day...

Good thing Sarah Palin can lead us all in a prayer.

Posted by: Dena | September 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Still undecided, will wait for debates and issues discussed in coming two months. But, I must admit I loved McCain's choice of Palin as his V.P. (Wish Obama chose Hillary and not Biden).

Posted by: bet woj | September 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, Palin turned me off with her comment about community organizers. For a bunch of christians they certainly dont seem very Christ like. If Christ was on earth today, I bet you would find him in the projects helping the sick and poor rather than standing next to an oil rig shooting shotguns in the air and yelling Obama is the Anti-Christ

Posted by: Timmy | September 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

While everyone is bashing and hashing O-biden and the war horse. Are you still going to vote in the same 'ol congress... that's were the problem is.

Posted by: 81501 | September 5, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Milton The Monster | September 5, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I was all for McCain in the primaries and continuously sought out my Democratic friends to praise his virtues and talents and about the tools he was bringing to the table compared to either Dem frontrunner. When McCain's selection was assured my Dem and Independent friends were glad not to be receiving my calls, as I let them fight amongst themselves, seeing no need to use up my ammunition until the Dem opponent was determined. With Obama's selection of Biden I was gearing up to redouble my calls to these friends, prepared to point out the foibles of their guy and his choice of VP and also of his lackluster performance at the convention. But then McCain threw me that curveball, Palin. Before I could figure out how I was going to approach my friends THEY began to call ME. They were now the ones on the offensive, making the calls, lambasting me for the deficiencies my candidate was exhibiting. The name Dan Quayle kept coming up!! When I rebutted by pointing out that Quayle's pick lead to victory for Bush they laugh and point out how Dukakis was no Obama. I now check my caller ID before answering the phone, to avoid the embarrassment of having no good ammunition to rebut their arguments. McCain has shown me he is not a good decision maker and my straegy from here on out is to avoid the political discussions so my friends cannot gain the kind of steam that will give Obama a mandate. I am still hoping for something stupid from the Dems but my goal is to avoid an embarrassing loss in November for our side!

Posted by: mike185185 | September 5, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Drill-baby-Drill is quite frightening...any large group chanting like that reminds me of Nazi Germany 1930's - Typical Republicans...don't look for any other source, just destroy everything we have now until it's gone! just remember Exxon Valdez (ALASKA) 1989 10,800,000 GALLONS SPILLED!!! I guess Palin hasn't learned the first time!!! You people scare me!

Posted by: No Drilling!! | September 5, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

The sad thing is that McPlain thinks that he's doing a fantastic job. He has gone senile, and the only people that refuse to believe that are his supporters. I can't imagine this man who has shown such immaturity having his finger on the button. You hear people talk about the world ending in 1012. Well, if McBush gets elected, then it may very well. How better to end a horrible legacy than cause a nuclear (read "nucular") holocaust?

Posted by: Xander | September 5, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

I love how the Dems always have negetive things to say about us but as soon as we respond and retaliate....they whine and complain and say the Republicans have no platform and agenda except to rag on the poor dems. This only shows how this country will perish if Obama is Pres.

http://www.FastArizona.com

Posted by: . | September 5, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

You are the man Father of the Fallen!!! iagree with you 100%

Posted by: BigJoe75 | September 5, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

John McCain is taking Americans for a fool. How can a man who has spent the last 26 years in Washington promise to bring change to Washington? The truth is, McCain is a product of Washington. You can tell that from his campaign so far. He is part of what needs change in Washington. YOU CANNOT TEACH AN OLD DOG NEW TRICKS!!

Posted by: NoMcCain | September 5, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

The choice of a powerful woman like Sarah palin for VP who has more experience in governance that NObama has left the Barack campaign powerless and shows the grave mistake Barack made in not choosing Hillary Clinton for VP, choosing instead an old Washington politician and by doing so, negating the flag of change.

Hillary supporters who are still scared by the mistreatment and attacks of the liberal media who shamelessly destroyed Hillary's presidential bid are now resigned to put our country first and vote for the republican ticket to elect a president that is qualified and has the experience to deal with all the complexed problems our country is facing and also to demonstrate that a woman can handle successfully any job including being the commander in chief.

Hillary supporters have no other choice that to choose our country first and elect a a qualified president and a woman in the white house!

Country First! McCain/Palin!

Posted by: Manolete | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how an election that should have been a Democratic no-brainer has ended up being one they may lose. I am an Obama voter, so I have made my choice, but I can see the edge slipping away as both candidates moderate their message towards the center, with the GOP having the edge among conservative white folks, who go to the polls in record numbers.

What's left for the Democrats to do? Quit harping on the same old arguments that McCain is more Bush, that one's gone. Quit repeating that the vote for Iraq was the worst thing in the world, and now Biden voted for it, anyway. Keep the focus on the economy. That crosses party lines and hits us all, young and old in the same place, our daily lives! The moral issues, well, those are great points to ponder and debate but they don't change people's minds. People can clearly evaluate and decide about the bottom line economic issues and who really will bring the change we need for now and the future.

Posted by: jan | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

To me who is an unaffiliated voter, watching the two conventions was very telling. If you listened closely to the rhetoric, the Dems definitely went after McCain, but it was more on policy issues. The Reps seem to get down right nasty and very personal..especially Palin. It seemed to me that the Reps really are focused on a "we are better Americans than you" attitude. They actually seem to be trying to say that being an uneducated redneck is far more desirable than and Elitist, educated, white liberal. Dont we want America to be Elite. The Dems have their own problems, but the Reps are really beginning to leave a bad taste in my mouth. Their vision of a good America is one I can no longer buy into. It is hypocritical, divisive, and soft on explaining why the same policies of the last 8 years are all of a sudden going to start to work because McCain is taking office. Lets hope Obama is for real, because after the Rep convention he has my vote.

Posted by: Jay Bone | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Let's be honest: did you really find the speech of McCain inspiring?
I don't know but I am tired of the same old POW stories. Yes he is a hero and we accept this. My father was a POW and tortured and his back was full of scares from the beatings, but he never used it for his career advantage. Still I leave this up to him. The maverick talk and the cleaning up of the DC? Can anyone truly believe that all these established politicians Bushes, Cheneys and all others who are sitting there for years and years and are well connected will say to McCain, yeah come clean up??!. He is part of this 25 year foundation of this political house! Palin well we she is VP so what can do. The powerhouse of the politicians will make her bed and she jumps in as so many other did before. Mavericks well it is just a gimmick. Also how representative is demographically Alaska to any other state: look at difference in race issues, agricultural issues, political issues. It is very very different. I would argue that the mayor of Chicago, Texas, Miami will have more experience to deal with the real common problems of average Americans than she does. Maybe I am going to vote!

Posted by: Tom | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Who would call Palin the new Obama? lol People are enthused about her because she's been depicted in the media as sooo relateable and a normal person. Yet she mocks his work as a community organizer. Doing nice things for people who are less fortunate and in need of help and support is obviously not important.

Why are people trying to vote for a president that they want to kill polar bears and caribou with or sit down and have a beer with? I think if she wants to win she should start wearing a big alaska hunting hat and fur from a grizzly bear. Dressing in costume has helped Bush (cowboy hat)! And I say president because obviously these people who have recently taken interest don't give a crap about McCain, and because of the obvious reasons she'll be a "heart beat away".

And how are they going to call Obama an elitist while making fun of his work as a community organizer when he was younger?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgVUxmjf0G8&feature=PlayList&p=869F1FBA218EB2B2&index=1

Posted by: MN | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

McCain said “I’m the best person to fix the problems that my party and I caused,” and Palin said “I am against lobbyists. I am against earmarks. I am a reformer.” His statements made no sense. Her comments were outright lies.

Posted by: EricS | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Why are you trying to relate Bush failures to Mccain, In that case will you relate Bills doing with monica to Obama !!!

Posted by: MRN | September 5, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Why must the GOP always resort to the same distractionary games? Palin was the Republican choice, they knew the controversity she carried. The media picked up on that and predictably ran with it and yet despite Obama/Biden's pledge to leave families out of it Palin is projecting the controversy onto them, making her issue their issue. This is not what the election is about, but you can guarantee that the Republicans, with no platform to stand on, will make it about that. Dirty business as usual.

Also, "change" is not just a word. You have to qualify it with examples, if you can lay some out over the chants of "USA! USA!"

Posted by: Chris | September 5, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I see comments to this article are just as uneducated as the ones you clearly listed for us. People seem to get lost in the idea of their side winning and could care less about the issues at hand. Truly sad, the loudest are usually the ones with not much substance to share.

Posted by: Mindy | September 5, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

O-BA-MA!!! Obamas plans are FAR better for the economy as he wants to creat 5 million jobs for Americans, end the war with Iraq, and force oil companies to give back a $500 rebait to individuals for tax releif. These are some small reasons that Obama is the future of our country!!!

Posted by: BigJoe75 | September 5, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

I sat throught 4 days of the republican convention and find it of no surprise that either McCain nor Palin had any idea what this Country needs to turn things around. I never thought I would pay the same for a gallon of gas as I would a gallon of milk. The cost of College has more than trippled for the average family and my pay has not kept pace with all the increases we have seen. After much thought and consideration after the Mc Lame and Falin snipping I will vote for Obama, at lease he has a plan and is not living in yesteryear.

Posted by: Father-of-fallen officer | September 5, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

The best "change" that McBush can make is to go home and take his miserable firends with him. If any republican is ever elected to public office in the USA again, it will be way too soon.

Posted by: TeeCee | September 5, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

I don't know what all the fuss is about Palin just because she can read a speech she probably didn't write. Like Bush, she speaks well with a tele-prompter so we'll see how she does against Biden in the VP debate. I'm pretty sure her foreign policy is really strong!! I wonder if she knows where Iraq is on a map.

Posted by: Hockey Moms gone Mad | September 5, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

TEAM OBAMA DID A HATCHET JOB ON HILLARY...
OBAMA'S MEDAI DID A HATCET JOB ON SARAH....

PALIN 1
OBAMA 0

THE DEM'S ARE SCARED
AHHHH, SHE'SSSSSSSSSSSS HHHHHHHHERE!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: zen | September 5, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

With Jobless rate soaring, and lost wages this Anonymous person thinks Sarah is the new OBAMA. Your obviously a idiot. This economy is crashing, and you want to put the Republicans in charge again. The Grand old Party is no longer Grand, just old.

Posted by: Montana Voter | September 5, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

We have always Respected and Honored McCain's service to this country. But we know who is spinning the message Schmidt and Rove known as the guys that brought us two George W. Bush terms and now they want to sell us a third Bush term.

McCain called for an end to the“constant partisan rancor”. Yet his campaign ads have attacked American Artists by attempting to brand them as just celebrities. Barack Obama is like Ronald Reagan when it comes to support of the Talented Artists of their time. Obama's message rings of a “Beautiful day coming to America” which is similar to Reagan's "Its morning in america again".

McCain's campaign has gone after the media who are asking the important questions that help keep the voters informed about the contrasts between the Democrat and Republican Parties in the most important election of our times.

After watching this Republican convention the first impression was the Republicans rallied their base by attacking Obama/Biden instead of presenting a clear case for voting for McCain. What about their solutions for the issues voters care about? A missed opportunity for the Republicans. Follow up impression common sense now says that its Obama/Biden who can end the “constant partisan rancor” in Washington DC.

When McCain says the last weeks of this campaign will be hard fought, nothing personally, just the nature of the business we know what McCain, Schmidt and Rove are saying – more negative attacks, more slash and burn tactics. When McCain says “Change is coming,” to Washington DC – The voters look at the Schmidt, Rove and Fox News attacking and we know what is coming – A Pit Bull? Avoid The Pit Bull with Lip Stick when The Pit Bull attacks. Who says we must fight on their turf? Let them come to ours. This race is still Obama/Biden vs McCain/Bush.

America can have a beautiful day in November by Voting for Change we can believe in

U2 can have a beautiful day
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omFdpnSu57U

U2 can dance with us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY

Join us!

Vote Obama/Biden '08

Posted by: Cooday | September 5, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Wake me when it's over.

Posted by: Robbie Jay | September 5, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Isn't this the exact campaign the Republicans ran in 2004? Wasn't George Bush an ordinary guy? "Everything is the liberals and the medias fault." "She is the middle class" And Republicans walk around in the daytime with a flashlight,too.

Posted by: kad964 | September 5, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Good morning...i see it's the Republican hate machine in full swing!!!

Posted by: Tom | September 5, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

The Gallup Poll yesterday after Palin's speech, had Obama ahead by 6%, and McCain's speech was that of a retired coach talking to a hopeless football team and saying, "we can do it if we just do what the other guys want to do!"

I think the next poll is going to show Obama ahead by nearly double digits. The base loves Palin, but nobody else does, she is a dishonest opportunist if there ever was one. A journalism major at the university of idaho? Grrreeaaaaat, she's an average neoconservative nobody.

Posted by: Alex | September 5, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Bush..8 is enough

Posted by: Dave | September 5, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Drill, baby, Drill! Obama is a skinny a- fool. My girlfriend know him. Girl, she has stories!

Posted by: Latasha McDougle | September 5, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

This is the most interesting and unusual religious perspective I have seen on the choice of Palin, yet. If you are concerned about religious things, I highly recommend checking it out:

http://www.newsflavor.com/Opinions/McCain-Hijacks-Christianity-Via-Palin.240929

Posted by: LaRae | September 5, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

dem haters cant say anything nice about anyone, hate their country. mccain is substance, obama is fluff. mccain sez he'll go across the isle, obama sez nothin of the sort. obama flip flops tons, mccain very little. You dems hate war but love chopping babies out of a womb because you had a one night stand. moral relativism is the stepping stone to anarchy. and if anarchy ever becomes the norm, you won't want to me up with me.

Posted by: haters | September 5, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I gotta agree with woody.

The whole sneering approach of "we're better than you are (dems)" nanny nanny boo boo is a poor campaign strategy.

I don't think nanny nanny boo boo is gong to win it for McCain.

Oh, and that part about removing "political rancor", John McCain says. yeah sure. The whole GOP convention was rife with political rancor. Gullianni was especially embarassing.

Posted by: obie | September 5, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

The Dems. are going to get smoked in the debates. I can't wait!

http://www.FastArizona.com

Posted by: McCain Supporter | September 5, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

This is a goofy article. Is there going to be an article about the comments on this article? If so, I hope I will be featured and I want to say in advance that the article rounding up the comments on this article, and the subsequent article rounding up the comments on that article, are some of the most unabashed and powerful journalism it has ever been my fortune to experience. To infinity.

Posted by: fletc3her | September 5, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

LOL thats a Halarious Cartoon, thanks for the Link., McCain is the drag on this ticket, thats for sure.

Posted by: Kyle | September 5, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is the new Obama, The new most famous person in the world.
This site has background info on sarah Palin Bio Pics Videos http://www.theveep.com
This site has everything about her scandals and Levi BF of her daughter http://www.hotpres.com
This site has a new cartoon of her McCAin and Obama http://www.mccanes.com
Its all about Palin for the next few weeks. It might be a bad thing that she is more Popular then McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 5, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

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