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McCain's Problems

There's been a lot of journalism (not to mention polls) in the past 24 hours suggesting that Republican John McCain is trailing Barack Obama in the presidential sweepstakes. Dan Balz writes that McCain needs the numbers to move.

At the same time, if you've looked at television for even a few minutes recently, it's impossible not to notice that the McCain campaign is going negative, with an enormous assist in that category from Sarah Palin. Balz says that if McCain "gets tough, it's described as desperation. If he deals only with the economy, it plays to the Democrats natural advantage."

Some of our Readers Who Comment have gone negative this morning too, but those of the pro-Obama persuasion seem a little happier.

We'll start with logicaldog1, who said, "McCain doesn't need momentum. he needs substance. Momentun would only help if he had something to talk about. His policies are ludicrous-healthcare for example would be a disaster for all, he would cut medicare and social security, go to war ad nauseum, God Forbid you talk to our enemies..."

howdy999 suggested that "Perhaps McCain should listen to Whoopi Goldberg... She said she would need to know who would be on his cabinet to feel more comfortable with McCain. It's a stretch to think that Whoopi would ever vote for McCain, or rather would ever NOT vote for Obama, but there are others who are swayable. McCain should name his cabinet members."

familyautos wrote, "I got three big words for you...Ayers Rezko and cigarettes...which Obama still smokes...an awful lot of crap in only ten years. Compare that to McCain's thirty year career an all you can come up with is...KEATING? Please, this is your brain on Obama Fever..."

But ratl said, "A maverick dead horse."

cmaexecutive wrote, "What he needs is a new political party. Rearranging the chair on the Titanic has no meaning in a changed world that has left McCain/Palin/Bush/Cheney in the discard chute. And that's exactly where they belong given what they've done and waht they stand for."

michel1835 said, "Obama is calm and detached under ALL circumstances , and that's what's scary about him... just because an indifferent candidate keeps cool no matter what are not enough credentials... If he gets elected , he'll be impeached for incompetence before the end of his term for lack of leadership"

blakesouthwood wrote, "McCaine is no leader and he's not sharp and not smart and not ethical and not moral and he doesn't have integrity and doesn't have character. Sarah is cute and pretty but I'm voting for brainpower and that's why I'm voting for Obama and Biden..."

Patti4 said, "...I had so hoped to vote for the McCain of 2000, but he is not in this campaign, perhaps the Bush tactics that he is now trying to use on Obama changed him, maybe that is what has made him so angry... This election I will vote for Senator Obama because his steady, calm, intelligent, and consistent qualities are something we need in our next President..."

FishinDog asked, "Mr. Balz, Do you honestly think Sarah Palin is qualified to be the VP? Do you honestly think John McCain is putting his country first? John McCain has lost all the independant voters who would have voted for him because he made a deal with the devil..."

rlj1 wrote, "With all that is going on in this country and the world we do NOT need a leader who will do anything to win. The leader has to work with everyone when you inject racism; anti religion; etc. into a campaign you bring out the hate in people... We need a leader who has consistently been a gentleman and a leader. Obama/Biden '08 can take us into the future with care for everyone."

pedraza1 predicted "OBAMA BIDEN IN A LANDSLIDE PERIOD. America is on to the lie and smear boys and wont allow ourselves to bring Mc Same and igloo trash into the job especially after what George W. bush has done to our country..."

jchaney said, "...McCain has never really developed a campaign message or a coherent strategy. Obama has run circles around him in terms of organization, energy, focus, and seriousness. Obama looks and sounds presidential..."

We'll close with ann_shannon, who wrote, "What I see in McCain is sad, and I mean that in the compassionate sense. Here is the old warrior, running on empty, gasping and grasping for the glory of who he once was..."

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  October 9, 2008; 6:48 AM ET
Categories:  McCain , Presidential Politics  | Tags: McCain, Obama, Palin  
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C'mon WP, let's have a limit on word length in these comments. 100 words or less. The responses to this post make a mockery of the comment system. It's pointless to even read.

Posted by: Joe | October 14, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Obama is intelligent and right on the issues.

He can't help it if he's also cool.

Posted by: RealityCheck | October 13, 2008 9:52 PM | Report abuse

to: RealityCheck
Ther are a lot of issues not being addresses this election year.
Mayhaps each candidate should stop pandering to the "Rich" and to the "middle Class" and focus some attention to the hard working Americans that make up the working poor. These are the people that toil everyday but always come up short on house payments, electrical bills; child care payments; health care and education costs.
The change that I keep reading and hearing about comes of as pandering to the rich and middle class with callous disregard for the second largest percentage of the population. Do you think that the true poor are less likely to vote or that their vote means little as the dream is to far beyond their grasp for either party to give a crap? We all know that people below the poverty line will not be included in that 95% of "ALL" americans receiving a tax cut. Are the people in this group less that American?
Let's also remember the issue of immigration. Has this become a non issue now?
How about globalization and expanding markets for American products; is this a non issue?
Ponder thaes things versus age versus race versus gender and we just may become the leaders that america was known to be. We might even become the land of the free again and not the foreign owned land of the lost.

Posted by: robert | October 13, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

To: RealityCheck
There are a lotof issues missing from this years election. You mentioned family values, that was a crock when the truth came out.
What we are missing this year is that education is placed third on the priority list while the stated main issues, the economy and health care reign supreme. For two candidates talking about the future they both seem to be running overtime catering to the old school.
What about immigration as a campaign issue?
What about the working poor as a campaign issue?
Everyone is talking about what they will do for the wealthy and for the middle class but neither candidate is addressing the hard working Americans who fall below the poverty level. they also have children needing health care and dollars for education.
Is the Obama tax cut really for 95% of all Americans or for 95% of the middle class?
Will Mccain's housing bailout help the people who legitimately can't make their payments or become a crutch for the "middle class" Americans who chose to live and lead extravagant lifestyles?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 13, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of whether some of this information was lifted off of a web site or not, the facts still remain. And I have personally taken the time to educate myself on these facts. No, I'm not getting paid to do this. I'm just one of many citizens that are concerned and think that government and taxes should remain smaller not bigger -- especially in this economic crises.

So let's be fair, list the some good reasons that you are NOT voting for McCain.

www.teleprompterpresident.com is the site that lists at least 100 rational reasons for not voting for Barack Obama.

Posted by: FMF | October 13, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Good morning America! I love to smell the stench of neocon trolls in the morning. Especially those long posts with 'facts' lifted off right wing radical sites. The flurry of neocon postings is the sound of the McCain camp paying off little dweebs to spam the blogs with empty BS as part of their desperation as they sink into obliviion. There is a direct correlation between the number of troll postings and Obama's rise in the polls, so we know that Obama will shortly be on the way to the big house.

Posted by: Sandra S | October 13, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Obama should be indicted shortly for his dealings with Rezko. Rezko is making deals right now to lessen his sentence. There is a lot more evidence against Obama than there was against Senator Stevens.

Posted by: MyView49 | October 13, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

MCSHAME'S CAMPAIGN IS STARTING TO DROWN
(Santa Claus is Coming to Town)
WilliamBanzai7

Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
Those polls don't lie
McShames campaign is starting to drown!

He's made his dirty trick list,
Checking it twice,
Gonna find out he's naughtier than nice.
McShame's campaign is starting to drown!

He'll slime you when you're sleeping,
He'll use that old muck rake.
He knows his style is bad not good,
Don't be fooled for goodness sake!

Oh! You better watch out,
You better not cry,
You better not pout,
Those polls don't lie
McShames's campaign is starting to drown!

Posted by: williambanzai7 | October 13, 2008 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Here is why I’m NOT voting for Barack Obama. There are at least 100 excellent reasons -- fact and opinions for not voting for Barack Obama. Here are just 42 of mine, but I found it very hard to narrow it down to just 42. They are not listed in order of importance. They document the facts on the list with links to credible news organizations and independent fact check organizations on www.tleprompterpresident.com – click on left side link “More than 100 Reasons to vote Against Obama”. It’s very interesting and informative. Don’t forget to read a very compelling letter at the end confirming yet another reason democrats should not be in office – it’s obvious to me they have a long record of having no respect for human life.
1) Obama's inexperience would lead him to grant legitimacy and raise the stature of dictators like Fidel Castro, Kim Jong-il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by granting them a face to face meeting without pre-conditions
2) Obama would fight terrorism not as a war, but as a criminal problem. This is a pre-9/11 mind set. Didn't he request that war prisoners to be read their rights?
3) Barack Obama is NOT a New Kind of Politician. Barack Obama is a product of the corrupt Chicago political machine. He did nothing to reform it!!!! In fact, they had a surge of violence in Chicago recently.
4) Barack Obama has the most liberal voting record of any other United States Senator. How much of a socialist government do you want?
5) Obama has never authored a piece of major legislation. Yet, people think he can bring about change.
6) His running mate Senator Biden charged that Obama lacked the experience to be President. Words spoken from his own VP choice. He even made Barack's judgement seen even more lacking when he said that Hillary would have been a better choice than him for VP.
7) His running mate Joe Biden has the third most liberal voting record in the Senate. He dropped out of the race for the Presidency in 1988 after he admitted to plagiarism in law school and in some of his speeches.
8) Obama has said in speeches “we are our brother’s keeper”. But his brother in Kenya lives in a hut on just $10 a year. My opinion is we need to be able to take care of our own before we can branch out and take care of others properly.
9) Citizens Against Government Waste say that Obama has an 18% rating, McCain is rated 88%. Senator Biden is rated the worst with 0%.
10) While Obama talks a lot about “crossing the aisle”. His actual record in this regard is very meager. Can you name a time he has crossed the aisle once in this campaign?
11) Obama voted “Present” 129 times as a State Senator to avoid taking a stand on controversial votes. Have you seen him stand firm on one issue without wavering when there is controversy? Look at when he said he could not disown Rev Wright no more than he could disown the black community. Well he disowned Rev Wright, is the black community next?
12) Obama claimed credit for sponsoring legislation that was actually given to him by his mentor Illinois Senate President Emil Jones. Obama repaid Jones with $300 million of earmarks for Illinois, including tens of millions of dollars of earmarks for pet projects in Emil Jones district.
13) Obama claimed to “press the wrong button” six different times when confronted about controversial votes in the Illinois State Senate.
14) Obama threw his grandmother who raised him under the bus, comparing her attitudes to Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s racism and later calling her a “typical white person. What if he were a white person speaking and called someone a “typical black person”. I think there would have been a pretty big outrage and we would be calling Obama racist. After all, he did bring up this whole racial thing in the first place.
15) In 2007, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama signed a pledge to not campaign in Florida. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) was punishing Florida for moving the Primary to January 29. Obama broke his pledge and ran ads in Florida.
16) Obama who runs as a candidate of change helped keep Chicago politics dirty by supporting the corrupt John Stroger over Forrest Claypool, a progressive reformer, for President of the Cook County Board of Commissioners.
17) Obama claims to not accept oil money, but in fact he has accepted more than $213,000 from individuals who work for companies in the oil and gas industry and their spouses. Two of Obama's bundlers are top executives at oil companies and are listed on his Web site as raising between $50,000 and $100,000 for him.him.
18) Obama claims to have no ties to lobbyists, but several registered lobbyists have raised over a million dollars for his campaign, sometimes having their wives write the check to conceal his ties to them.
19) Senator Barack H. Obama Jr. repeatedly refused to provide any responses to citizens on the issues through the 2008 Political Courage Test when asked to do so by national leaders of the political parties, prominent members of the media, Project Vote Smart President Richard Kimball, and Project Vote Smart staff. He's even reluctant to talk about his past or show personal documentation -- like his birth certificate. Open and honest communication I feel is never going to be Obama's strong point.
20) After promising to fund his campaign with only public financing, Barack Obama went back on his pledge because he found he could raise huge amounts of money on his own and exceed the public campaign finance limits.
21) Obama has suggested that people who don’t support him are racists. Wow, this one really takes the cake -- especially when there are so many good legitimate reasons for not voting for him.
22) Barack Obama’s religious beliefs are not a good reason to vote against him, but failure to be honest about them is. Why can’t he tell us the truth? His mother was raised by non-practicing Christians; his father was raised a Muslim, but was an atheist by the time he had married Obama's mother. Obama's step-father was also Muslim, but of an eclectic kind who could make room for animist and Hindu beliefs. The Left apparently felt that Mitt Romney’s religious beliefs were a legitimate issue in the campaign. Why the double standard when it comes to Obama?
23) Obama’s followers -- even some foreign leaders often compare him to Jesus Christ or the Messiah. MSNBC reporter Chris Matthews said he gets a thrill running up his leg when he hears him speak.
24) Obama has no executive experience. He has never run a business or done a pay roll etc. He himself has even admitted that he does not have the experience to be the President of the United States. This one should give everyone a clue.
25) Without a teleprompter Obama is hesitant and confused. This is something I have personally noticed and really bothers me. Especially when everyone was so down on the way Bush speaks and, for some reason, they’re giving Obama a free pass on this one.
26) His wife Michelle charged that America was a mean country and said that for the first time in her adult lifetime she is proud of her country because of her husband’s campaign. Wow, if this doesn’t say it all. The way Barack’s family feels deep down about America. And the thing is that even Barack himself has, time and again, said things that still make us wonder.
27) Obama claimed he never heard anti-American, anti-White speeches at his church; his own autobiography indicates he did and as he later admitted under pressure. I think everyone that wants to vote for Barack Obama has a patriotic obligation to read Barack’s books to understand what he truly believes. I do not; however, think that it is our patriotic duty to pay more taxes, as Biden has indicated.
28) Obama claims not to take money from Washington lobbyists, but he takes money from lobbyists' spouses and holds fundraisers at the offices of law firms that lobby Congress. He happily accepts huge amounts of money from executives of big oil and drug companies and many others. In fact, he's relying on two oil company executives to raise $50,000 apiece for his campaign. Is this why he reneged on his promise to fund his campaign with only public financing.
29) His running mate Joe Biden has the third most liberal voting record in the Senate. He dropped out of the race for the Presidency in 1988 after he admitted to plagiarism in law school and in some of his speeches.
30) Tony Rezko is a convicted criminal and long time friend and fund-raiser for Obama. Rezko was indicted last fall on federal charges that accuse him of demanding kickbacks from companies seeking state business. Obama claimed Rezko donated only $50,000 to him. Later, under pressure, he revealed Rezko raised more than twice that amount and also sat on his fundraising committee. When asked about his friend, Obama said, “I’ve never done any favors for him.” But evidence proved Obama had written letters to city and state officials praising Rezko’s business practices. Obama helped steer 14 million tax dollars to him:
31) Obama's inexperience would lead him to grant legitimacy and raise the stature of dictators like Fidel Castro, Kim Jong-il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad by granting them a face to face meeting without pre-conditions. People need to know the facts so don’t let Obama make you feel like it’s wrong for McCain and Palin to put them out there.
32) Obama is the Chairman of the Senate Europe and NATO subcommittee. He has failed to hold a single hearing.
33) Obama’s tax policy that would take the nation back to the effective marginal tax rates of the Carter days. He has called for increases in payroll, capital gains, dividends and death taxes. He claims to only want to raise taxes on the wealthy, but this could have a devastating effect on new investment and small businesses:
34) Obama would increase government spending by possibly one trillion dollars in four years. Change we need?
35) Senator Obama voted against his own economic package. Sen. Wayne Allard (R-CO) Acombed through Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) many campaign promises and compiled a list of 188 new spending proposals that he then packaged together and offered as an amendment to the Fiscal 2009 budget plan. Allard calculated that for the 111 proposals for which cost estimated were possible, Obama’s promises would cost the American taxpayer $300 billion per year and $1.4 trillion over five years. Allard released a floor statement highlighting the size of this spending package, including:

The $300 billion is more than the $294 billion the U.S. spent on imported oil last year.
Obama’s current tax raise proposal would cover only $225 billion over 5 years … far short of the $1.4 trillion in spending.

To finance just the first year of $300 billion in spending, Congress would have to raise taxes on the top 1% of tax payers by 57%.
Obama voted against his own platform and the measure was defeated 97-0.
36) Obama proposes nothing new in terms of an economic plan. It’s just the old-fashioned solutions proposed by liberals for years –tax, spend and regulate that lead to economic stagnation. This you can bet your life on.
37) Franklin Raines is one of Senator Obama’s advisors on economic issues. Raines was the head of Fannie Mae which has now collapsed. Under Raines Fannie Mae committed extensive financial fraud. Raines made 25 million dollars. Now taxpayers are stuck with the bill. There is a u-tube video that explains how the democrats are responsible for this meltdown, McCain warned that could happen in 2006.
38) Jim Johnson, former Fannie Mae CEO was a top advisor, chosen to vet potential vice presidential nominees. In 1998, Fannie Mae’s earnings were manipulated, which resulted in "maximum payouts" to executives including Johnson who earned $1.9 Million when he otherwise would not have earned a bonus. Johnson received special loans from Countrywide Financial CEO Angelo Mozilo. Property records show Mr. Johnson has received more than $7 Million in loans from Countrywide since 1998, the first coming in the waning days of his Fannie Mae tenure. Johnson also received fees and compensation from Fannie Mae worth $3.3 Million between 2001 and 2006. He resigned, but he's now back on Obama’s campaign
39) Obama proposes a Windfall Profits tax. Jimmy Carter tried it and it failed miserably. It raised the cost of gas and led to drop in domestic oil production
40) Barack Obama’s Policies on Energy Would Keep Us Dependent on Foreign Oil Barack Obama opposes drilling on and offshore to reduce gas and oil prices.

While Barack Obama has opposed off-shore drilling and a gas-tax holiday (as supported by John McCain or Hillary Clinton), his solution to our energy crisis does include additional tax burdens on oil company profits, taxes we can only imagine will be passed on to the consumer, thus causing an even more expensive trip to the gas station.

Ethanol subsidies are a major plank in Barack Obama's view of energy independence and national security. He favors ethanol subsidies, some of which end up in the hands of the same oil companies he says should be subjected to a windfall profits tax:
41) Barack Obama Supports the Death Penalty
This is information derived from Father West on www.teleprompterpresident.com – information that I have previously learned from other news reports that have supported my reasons for not supporting Barack Obama for president.

Posted by: FMF | October 13, 2008 4:14 AM | Report abuse

to the poster wondering why liberals are being referred to as SOCIALISTs and ANARCHISTS.

The people who do so dont actually know what the words mean, and they use them incorrectly, but they know it means something their daddy is against.
They just fling attack words and hope to paint the opponent as scary and different. Mostly different.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Women of America Unite!
Unite against the sexist media and Barack Hussein’s Mugging of Vice President, Sarah Palin!

What delusion this poster enjoys!
1. Palin is not VP. She is a candidate.
2. Mugging Palin? When, precisely? There is no such event.
This is demagoguery on the part of the Palin team. Palin is mugging Obama with the lies about Dr Wm Ayers, the Man of the Year in Chicago and a member of the Republican
ANNENBERG team of fund raisers, same as Obama, but this is a good offense, although baseless in its facts.
3. Palin recent inability to admit and address and be willing to change her mean and lowdown ways after being found guilty of ethics violations removes her from serious consideration by all thinking persons of all political parties. Ethics among high office holders must be held to a high standard. To go on and on about how she was not found guilty of breaking the law in the specific of the firing is intentionally missing the point of the report and she SHALL be found guilty of other more serious offenses related to her yet-to-be-tried case of using Yahoo to avoid the FREEDOM of INFORMATION ACT. Women, groups of women, Native Americans, Tribes of Native Americans, and citizens interested in the oil interests in Alaska are being systematically prevented from their legal right to inquiry about the business of the state of Alaska by Palin using her personal Yahoo account to do STATE business and worse, by requiring her employees to do STATE business using Yahoo too.
One of the criticisms of Palin's ethics by the report is that she made her employees do wrong on the pain of being fired for not supporting Palin. The Yahoo case is the same thing only much worse. Imagine being a woman interested in the rape kit controversy and trying to collect data with the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION law, and running into the stonewall of Palin's use of Yahoo to keep her doings off the official Alaska email system so you cannot follow the Palin governments' doings.
She is the opposite of the kind of person women will support when they understand what she is doing with her power, in the manner of Cheney, arranging to have a convenient erasure of all data to escape review. Yahoo is not secure. A kid hacker her account already. She is a criminal and no person: woman, man, transvestite or hermaphrodite should support her.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 7:24 PM | Report abuse

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mBi7d6e5KI


watch McCain prove that he is now demonstrating Alzheimer's symptoms.

In this video he addresses the viewers of debate #2 as
MY FELLOW PRISONERS.
Yes, really. He is in another world of his own now. back in prison, practicing his speech. He decided to run for president while in prison you know. He is having deja vu while running for president in real life and no longer separates the POW time from real time.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Dear VOTERS.
THERE ARE TWO PIECES TO THIS Palin "TRUTH OR DARE".

1. AS PALIN NOTED: The report affirmed that, as governor, she had the constitutional right to hire and fire at will, and therefore her termination of Monegan was lawful.

2. However, the report found that Palin, her husband Todd, and her subordinates used pressure and intimidation to try to force the firing of Michael Wooten, beginning before her swearing-in ceremony took place, and therefore broke the law. BROKE THE LAW. HERE IS THE LAW SHE BROKE:
The investigation said she violated Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act, which states, "… each public officer holds office as a public trust, and any effort to benefit a personal or financial interest through official action is a violation of that trust."

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

The Fannie Mae Five: Their Campaign Contributions Spoke Louder Than Their Conscience:

http://www.sundaypaper.com/More/Archives/tabid/98/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/3159/Obama-and-the-Fannie-Mae-5.aspx

Will The Fannie Mae Five Ever Face justice For Their Actions?

Posted by: Jerry | October 12, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

It's OK for Sarah Palin to abuse her powers as long as she is Governor of Alaska. What scares me is that she is a quick study and God Knows what Dick Cheney could teach her.

Posted by: Ron | October 12, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Now if the Obama supporters would be respectable.
Funny how the entire Obama campaign and it's supporters expext something from the McCain supporters that they refuse to do in kind.

Posted by: Thozmaniac | October 12, 2008 4:48 AM | Report abuse

This country will still be on a downward spiral no matter who wins, unless they do more than what they have said they are and not do things they said they will. But I think Obama will be the first to realize it and be more open to suggestions and not his personal narcissistic view points.

Posted by: P | October 11, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

The hottest Halloween mask is an SP mask complete with glasses and hair over forehead.

Rumor has it that if you put it on "you might just be able to see Russia".

Posted by: Mother Nature | October 11, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

More like absolute abuse of trust. Power is good. Of course the idea is to take it away while rewarding fraud in Washington. The numbers keep changing, so try to keep up and if you can't. Well don't complain when the reality comes calling.

Posted by: Trouble | October 11, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Abuse of Power

Posted by: The Phrase of the Day Is... | October 11, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Some good comments here. I believe that Mr Mccain & Ms. Palin have been afforded ample opportunity to state their background, beliefs and goals. They've used up their fame, and are now wasting their time and ours. Time to cut them off, ignore what they say, spend our time more productively listening to Mr. Obama- at least he doesn't try to fill up the news with distortions and personal attacks, he is still talking about issues. Lets pay attention for as long as he continues to do that.

Posted by: Gerald Karney | October 11, 2008 9:26 AM | Report abuse

The Mccain/palin handlers & their 100% negative ads reminds one of the communists, with their information control, KGB propaganda and the Soviet News Agency Tass (Fox "news").. wow, as strongly as mccain purports to have hated the communists and the KGB, he sure acts like one-

Posted by: K Daniels | October 11, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

Earnest reportage still no match for editorial conniving. Post my bail. Some problems exceed the resources to solve them. Bullets are still cheap enough.

Posted by: grunt | October 11, 2008 7:37 AM | Report abuse

The GOP is suffering irrepairable damage from the negative, angry, no-substance discourse and personal attacks by Grumpy Mccain, along with the ditzy, radical, crazy-ass excuse for a running mate. The young people are voting en-masse for Senator Obama and anything Democrat for Congress- they'll be around a long time and entire generations will bitterly remember the horrible antics of the Republicans in this campaign, as well as those that inserted George Jr., the most damaging, incompetent president we've ever had.

Posted by: K Daniels | October 11, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Very surprised that they're getting any turnout whatsover at "Republican rallys". To get them out there, they're either paying them or perhaps, teaching them more sneaky ways to get bogus tax breaks.

Posted by: Ron Sampson | October 11, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone considered the fact that Joe Biden may go down as the greatest Vice Presidential pick in history?

What a sleeper.

What a brain on Obama to pick him.

Wow!
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Free fishing lessons here! Get your free fishing lessons here!

Posted by: Clean Water is Important | October 11, 2008 12:04 AM | Report abuse

John Kennedy had it, Ronald Reagan had it...Barack Obama has it. The ability to get people to unite for a common goal, the common good. Kennedy's vision landed us on the moon, Reagan's vision brought down the Berlin Wall. Obama's first big job will be to straighten up our current national economic nightmare, THEN... [it is heartwarming to anticipate the 'then'].

Posted by: Pat M | October 9, 2008 6:26 PM
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Yeah. And he's done such a GREAT job uniting this country so far. Don't we all feel like holding hands and singing "kumbaya"? I know I do.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 7:33 PM | Report abuse

"mccain doesn't get it" about economy : another example -.
Today McCain said for those over 70 1/2 be allowed NOT to mandatory withdraw retirement funds because stock market is low.

THIS IS A NO-BRAINER. Better to withdraw now and pay regular tax on a depreciated stock and rebuy same stock. Hold over one year and when market rebounds, only pay 15% in long term versus 25% or more if withdrawn from retirement.

McCain still doesn't understand that all assets in retirement funds are taxed at normal tax rates.

You save much more in taxes than in transaction fees. You definitely pay less taxes this way.

Posted by: artb | October 10, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

The course McCain and Palin have chosen, with their attack politics, is weakening the nation no matter who wins. A case of putting "country Last."

Posted by: frank burns | October 10, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Obamas already said he was not there every Sunday and everytime that church met.
Its also been reported by the media along time ago that Rev. Wright did not spout his comments everytime the church met.
Think about it for just a minute.
20 years 52 Sundays alone a year not counting most likely Wed. services that would add another 52 making it 104 times a year Rev Wright held services times 20.
Now how many sound bites do they have?
What 3-5 at tops I see the same ones run over and over. Then when he was pressed and being looked at over and over he tossed in some sarcasm at a few events they got a few more.
lol I would imagine most people have 3-5 moments when taken out of context over 20 years that they would not want others to hear or see.
Now Falwell on the other hand has 100's and 1000's of soundbites out there because almost everytime he opened his mouth he spouted pure crappola.
But you keep sitting there brainwashed by a few soundbites you saw on FOX keep telling yourself that oh just 4 more years and everything will be okay.
You sound like a person with a gambling addiction who keeps wanting to belly back up to the table on a losing streak.
I am no fan of Rev. Wrights but to think that over 20 years its 3-5 soundbites that got played 100's of times a day on FOX to sum up a persons whole career is kinda stupid.
Obama came right out when he went off the deep and said he totally disagreed with his comments.
Obama unlike Mccain did not say well if he simply says something else I will be happy to go speak at that church again like Mccain did with Bob Jones U.
Nor has Obama sold his soul to the devil and went and spoke at a brainwashing camp like Falwells Liberty.
Like I said look up what Mccain had to say about Falwell on plenty of shows and in the press then explain to us how he is not the biggest flip flopper there has ever been.
Also how about explaining to us how you feel about Mccain leaving his crippled wife for his trophy rich wife who has had addiction problems so bad she has needed rehab.
Not to mention he has admitted to multiple affairs while he was in the military.
You seem to want to hold Obama up to one standard and Mccain to another.
So if your going to bring something up from Obamas past like Ayers lets get Mccain to tell us how he can justify what he did to his wife and family back then.
Let me also remind you that cheating on your wife while in the service is a court martial offense.
Not to mention the fact he had to be lying to her about it.
Lets ask the possible Commander in Chief how he could justify breaking military law.
How he can justify lying to his wife and the mother of his children.
I bet he would blame something like alcohol.
Oh yes alcohol made him do it all okay that clears it up that would make it all better.
Things like that speak much more to ones character than who they simply hung around with on a board doing good things for a community or what church they attended.
But while were on it lets start looking up what the Rev. at Palins church has said over the years since you want Obama to be accountable for what others say then lets use that standard on both sides of this fence.

Posted by: Stuck In Mccains State | October 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm almost sad that, after this election, one party is going to collapse under its own weight. I'm really enjoying the desperate comments.
Does it hurt, knowing your guy is going to lose so badly?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 8:49 AM | Report abuse

We've socialized our police, fire, military, mail, libraries, roads, etc.

We are not a capitalist country;
We are a hybrid of capitalism and socialism.

We have tried use the best of both systems.
We will not be either/or in the futre,
We will be BOTH!
We ARE BOTH!

If you are afraid of Communism, why did you elect a Republican Party that no longer believed in checks and balance and accountability? They built their own Gulags, reward Party Loyalty over the good of the country, and punish those who do not "Goose Step". See David Iglesias or Valerie Plame for more...

Just WHO does the Vice President report to and who holds HIM accountable?

no one.

Posted by: veep | October 10, 2008 7:50 AM | Report abuse

Watch McCain Drop the F- Bomb, The F- Word over and over to a reporter. I think he is losing it.
http://www.mccanes.com

See Obama Call out McCain, http://www.theobamaplan.com

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 7:14 AM | Report abuse

With all due respect, you have no case, Obama has flip flopped on more things than I could list. I can't believe your comparison of Jeremiah Wright to Jerry Falwell -- 20 years sitting in that church -- and he was oblivious to what Rev Wright stood for? And to top it off, he called this guy his spiritual leader!!! And then he says he could no better disown him than he could disown his Grandmother. But then he threw Rev Wright and his Grandmother under the bus. Oh, you probably already know this, but has also said that we are our brothers' keeper, but he has a brother in Africa that could use his help, but Obama won't lend a hand to help him. I'm not ignoring anyone, it's just I know liberals think they can read between the lines and you've proven they're not very good at it.

Posted by: FMF | October 10, 2008 5:59 AM | Report abuse

And just for you FMF let me explain the Bob Jones comment I made.
Mccain said he would'nt speak at that University while the ban on interacial dating ban was in place.
But now that its been lifted he would gladly accept the invitation to speak there.
Yes I am sure those people really have changed their views by simply lifting a ban.
Point is Mccain flip flops constantly and steadily.
Next thing you will tell us all is that because of his steady flip flopping that shows how steady at the tiller he is.

Posted by: Stuck In Mccains State | October 10, 2008 4:14 AM | Report abuse

Okay FMF now you move onto Rev Wright.
LOL funny guy you are you just ignore what I and others said and say nothing about it.
But since were bringing up associations with crazy religious zealots how about Mccain speaking at Liberty University and standing and sharing a stage with Rev. Jerry Falwell he is about as racist and nutty as they get. But this is another fine example of Mccain Flip Flopping again.
lol Do some research into what Mccain had said about Falwell at one point in time and then realize he flip flopped on his views and in a effort to garner votes took that invitation from the crazy Falwell to speak at his university and share a stage with him.
Oh and let's not forget Bob Jones Univeristy also who until recently had a ban on interacial dating in place.
Nawwwwww thats not very racist at all now is it.
lol lol Please FMF keep giving our side more ammo the more you speak the more you ignore the more you do for us.
I take back what I said stay up allnight and keep typing because everytime you do you make another fine point as to why Obama should be president.
And as for you not being that other FMF yeah okay thats cool and a republican never lies to your face..

Posted by: Stuck In Mccains State | October 10, 2008 3:52 AM | Report abuse

First of all, I am not the FMF you're referring to and I do not spend all my time doing this. With all due respect, you have some wierd associations -- I'm sure you would say they were friends in your past. Obama's associations are not. Jeremiah Wright, for instance was quite recent. I was just curious how sold some people were on Obama -- I guess I found out. Wow! This country is in more trouble than you know. We are facing some pretty big issues and we're all in for some pretty hard times no matter who's in office. But with Obama it will be worse than with McCain. Because Obama wants to raise taxes. The best thing for America is not to raise taxes right and to have less government not more, which is what McCain is proposing. But with Obama we will have more taxes and government will have more of a finger in our lives. We're talking full blown socialism here with Obama. I enjoy my freedom too much to buy into that. A bridge to nowhere would be better than Obama's bridge to hell on earth.

Posted by: FMF | October 10, 2008 2:50 AM | Report abuse

FMF seems to fancy himself a mole for the McCain campaign, sowing doubt about Obama repetetively, like a good ol' corrupt right-winger.

Posted by: B-man | October 10, 2008 2:21 AM | Report abuse

FMF - re: Your comment about working for the FBI and past associations with the Weather Underground. I HAVE worked for the FBI and I was a member of SDS back in the 1960's. That was an immature mistake on my part and I readily admit it. But, the FBI is not so petty and paranoid that they will not accept the help of any American and past membership of such an organization does not disqualify one from working for them, even as a Special Agent. Such a past relationship will get you looked at very closely, but Mr. Obama, and men and women like him, would be welcome as I was welcomed.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 2:10 AM | Report abuse

FMF please go to bed.
There are so many skeletons in Mccain and Palins closets its not funny.
He commits adultry and leaves a crippled wife for a new rich trophy wife.
He has worked hand in hand with Helms, Thurmond and Byrd one of them being a member of the KKK a domestic terrorist organization. All 3 of them hate spewing mongers.
He almost always voted with Bush.
Palin and her hubby with the AIP and she is so clueless its horrifying I recently saw video of her having hands laid on her and the demons being cast of out her.
Well most people I know that go to church agree thats kind of crazy.
Mccains not fit for office he may of been a few years back but he is losing it fast. The best his crew can come up with is a guy who made bad decisions back in the 60's who served his time and changed alot about his life and Obama met him while working on a republican funded education program?
I was around in the 80's and early 90's I remember the Keating 5 and what happened back then and how that hurt this country.
Mccain said they would take the high road and not sink to slander and lies but yet at this point his ads are all 100% negative ads. Can you say FLIP FLOP?
He has Flip Flopped so many times he is starting to look like a goldfish out of its water laying there flopping and sucking and gasping for air as his campaign dies.
Oh and then Mccain promises he knows how to get Bin Laden and how to solve our problems. Thats a utter joke if they catch or kill Bin Ladin thats the end of the campaign of fear and then they will have nothing to scare the public with to help their buds get richer.
FMF who pays you to sit here allday and occasionally post up more lies?
BTW FMF are the FMF from Arkansas? The one that owns a audi? The one that likes articles on internet trolls and also likes to look at porn?
Just curious if thats you because if it is then your words fit right in with that who profile I found for a person with a handle called FMF.
Obama hands down even if he was deaf dumb and blind is clearly a better choice than the Lying, Cheating Mccain and the clueless Palin ticket.

Posted by: Stuck In Mccains State | October 10, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

The choice between McCain and Obama is clear. Obama is stable, intelligent, and thoughtful. He will do well, as he has always done well, in the Presidency. Obama, the first black president of the Harvard Law Review, is no insecure, over-his-head wimp like George W Bush. And he's not the erratic, loose-cannon that McCain is.

McCain finished at the bottom of his class, is an angry man, has flip-flopped on virtually every position he held before running for president, and has pandered shamelessly to groups he once condemned for any votes he can find.

If, at this stage, you're an "undecided" voter, you are just not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Posted by: B-man | October 10, 2008 1:58 AM | Report abuse

When we make decisions based on fear – fear about the economy, fear about our personal future, fear about the war and how or when it will end and how many more lives will be lost. Fear can keep us from the rationale we need right now to make an informed decision -- a decision not based on emotion, but a decision based on the hard-core facts. Can we risk right now making a decision we could possibly regret later because we refused to heed all the warning signs? Can we afford to risk regretting this decision later? It’s not like a sweater we bought that we later decided to return because we didn’t notice it had a hole in the fabric or that it wasn’t the right color. We can’t try Obama on and then, after he shows his true colors or after we finally decide to open our eyes and see what we truly have, decide we don’t like him and return him. If we could, Bush would have been returned a long time ago. McCain and Palin are not perfect and they have some allegations against them that may or may not be true, but they have not hung around people that have such hatred for this country that should make us all shudder and wonder about their character. McCain and Plain have shown their true colors and there are no holes in their character that is so deplorable that we wonder where their loyalties lie.

Posted by: FMF | October 10, 2008 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Obama doesn't sound just like any other politician, that's why this country is going wild for him, as they did for Kennedy for the same reason.

Calm, cool, intelligence would be such a welcome change from the Christian redneck stupidity we've had to endure for the last eight years, and which has brought the United States to the very brink of ruin.

Posted by: B-man | October 10, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Some put Obama on some unrealistic pedestal, but the fact is Obama is just a man -- though he may have some black roots and he may be young like Kennedy was -- nonetheless he is just a man. And to make believe he is anything more than just a man and a politician will produce a falsehood of what he truly is and prompt a decision that quite possibly will have long-and regrettable reprocautions. If you happen to be an avid Obama supporter, just close your eyes and listen to him speak – he sounds just like your typical politician -- nothing new or different in either Obama or Biden.

Posted by: FMF | October 10, 2008 12:57 AM | Report abuse

What the Republicans are offering:
An angry old troll and the Avon Lady

What the Democrats are offering:
John F Kennedy, the next generation

How you vote will reveal your intelligence level quite clearly.

Posted by: B-man | October 10, 2008 12:52 AM | Report abuse

Yes, we have a choice here old versus socialism.

Posted by: FMF | October 10, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Yes, we have a choice here old versus socialism.

Posted by: FMF | October 10, 2008 12:39 AM | Report abuse

EarlC:

What you said rings so true. You spoke for many, many of us. Thank you.

Amen.

Posted by: Save America - and the world | October 10, 2008 12:36 AM | Report abuse

McCain/Palin: The new Joe McCarthy(s)

Posted by: bethechange1 | October 9, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

IF my man Obama ever becomes president, they better assign him a whole heap of them black suited security guys with hearing aids who surreptitiously talk to their watches. He should have even more spooks watching him than the dubya ever had.

Nobody wants to shoot the dubya anyway, everybody just wants to spit on him. There's a diff.

But Obama, well he just has that Kennedy-ish thing about him. He's young, smart, educated, liberal, "Er ist ein Berliner" and he literally represents a beacon of hope... just the kind of guy they like to assassinate.

And, as we have often seen, the right wingers never miss their mark. They love guns and guns love them.

A few morons were planning to do just that to Obama a few months ago. Amateurish, one-pint-of-Jack-too-many braggadocio stuff, but still. I wonder what became of them?

Just beware!

Posted by: Spitfire | October 9, 2008 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see McCain and Palin on FOX? Two things struck me most: First, they are like a symbiotic unit now, neither can be separated from the other. McCain can't leave Palin's side because he wouldn't get the crowds or ratings without her, and Palin can't be on her own, except in very controlled circumstances, because their campaign knows she is hopelessly unqualified (but a gifted performer, to be sure).

What must John McCain be feeling right now? He has a younger, charismatic, handsome opponent who is beating him despite his supposedly superior experience, and he has a younger, charismatic, pretty VP who is favored among the republican base despite his "experience."

I would almost feel compassion for him because, like Hillary, he felt this was his time, but I am disgusted by his complicity in choosing Sarah Palin and approving such a dishonorable campaign strategy. He sold his soul when he abandoned the John McCain of 2000 and hired the Rove/Cheney crew that slandered him and his family so cruelly in 2000.

Sorry, Sen. McCain, but you reap what you sow. You and Gov. Palin are reaping some BAD KHARMA right now.

Posted by: bethechange1 | October 9, 2008 11:35 PM | Report abuse

It seems that only republicans are religious. I admit I don’t know the bible the way I
Should. However, it seems to me that the Republican party lost it’s way when it decided to assault the middle class and the working poor. The head of the Roman Catholic Church said that the disappearance of money as banks collapsed showed that wealth meant "nothing". The Pope said that people should instead base their lives on God's word.

It seems like the party selectively decided to forget :
Whatever you do to the least of my brothers that you have done unto me.

Posted by: kb | October 9, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Clinton Years Higher Taxes more Prosperity
Bush Years Lower Taxes Economic melt down.
Republicans are two for two.
1921-1929 Republican presidents prior to stock market crash.
2000-2008 Republican President prior to Meltdown
Keep ignoring the middle class and the working poor.

middle class whiner

Posted by: kb | October 9, 2008 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I like what someone said about McCain 2008... he is like the angry old guy who lives down the street, yelling at you to get off his lawn. And like someone else wrote, I really wanted McCain to be the guy in 2000 - but that was another guy. The new McCain is not my idea of a good president.

Posted by: Tom Harkish | October 9, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

depression+wars+poverty+arrogance+unemployment+trade deficit+...bla...bla = Bush A.K.A McCain.

Posted by: rawshon | October 9, 2008 8:14 PM | Report abuse

MR. GRUMPY IS NOT HAPPY AFTER HIS NAPPY....MCCAIN WILL JUST GET ANGRY AND CLAIM SOMEONE STOLE HIS MARBLES.....BUT ALAS, HE LOST ALL HIS MARBLES.....John is an old 73 with a limp and an eye tick and he says: "My fellow prisoners...." WRONG DECADE JOHN!!!

Posted by: benighse | October 9, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

Today McCain assured his Palin supporters that he will do better at the third debate....He says he will not put his TV cake make-up on at the morgue anymore, and he might even put on lipstick and wear a dress....He laughed about his Igor impression at the last debate by dragging his leg across the stage....Will someone really find out and present his HEALTH ISSUES to the public.....SENILITY IS NOT A VIRTUE!!!

Posted by: benighse | October 9, 2008 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Per Dana Perino, the current Republican in office will address the "continuing volatility" in the securities markets tomorrow morning.

"Volatility"? Volatility implies security prices that are moving up and down.

5,000+ point loss in less than a year on the Dow Jones Industrial Average.

Where was the UP again?

Why continue the word games?

This is not "volatility".

The more descriptive word is MELTDOWN.


Posted by: THIS JUST IN | October 9, 2008 7:32 PM | Report abuse

I know the way the media works and they slant things the way they want because they think Obama should be president. I even saw a post from a guy who wrote an article about Palin admit this. I know what you're thinking, if you can't trust the media, who do you trust to get the facts. I would look at who you know and what you know as facts. We all know John McCain, he's been around a very long time-sure he's not perfect and has made mistakes, but he has proven without a shadow of a doubt that he loves this country -- he has the scars to prove it. I ask you, how has Obama proven his love for this coutry? What has he done to prove he's all about unity. I haven't seen him do anything with his party even to prove he knows how to unite-- he didn't put Hillary on the ticket. That would have proved that he is all about unity. Frankly, there is too much about Obama that is in question and I think that all of those who are in favor of Obama should find out who he really is and what he really thinks by reading his books.

Posted by: FMF | October 9, 2008 7:16 PM | Report abuse

The reason the republicans aren't bringing up family values is because Palin's daughter got knocked-up.

Posted by: Family Values | October 9, 2008 7:09 PM | Report abuse

The facts are that Sarah Palin and her husband were (are?) members of the Alaska Independent Party, whose founder hated the United States and was killed while buying plastic explosives. She is the one who hates this country.

Posted by: pha | October 9, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Anyone notice that there's no Family Values talk this year from the Republicans?

Wonder why?

Posted by: RealityCheck | October 9, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Please, don't buy into gossip -- check out the facts.

Posted by: FMF | October 9, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

SARAH PALIN IS THE ONE WHO HATES THE UNITED STATES, SHE BELONGS TO THE AIP, AN ANTI-AMERICAN PARTY. SHE IS TRYING TO DEFLECT HER OWN HATRED FOR THE UNITED STATES ONTO OBAMA. DON'T FALL FOR IT!!

Posted by: Palin traitor | October 9, 2008 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin and her husband belong to the Alaskan Independence Party, and anti-American party. They hate the US. Keep her out of the White House.

Posted by: Palin is a traitor | October 9, 2008 6:38 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing wrong with calling someone by their correct name, Obama's middle name is Hussein. Also, it's not promoting fear by asking, Who is the real Obama?". The world wants to know. We have all these questionable associations and it is our duty as Americans to ask this question since Obama is running for the highest office in the land. While you're at it ask yourself a few other questions as well, like what kind of change exactly is Obama proposing -- it sounds a bit socialist to me -- we're taking a huge risk voting for him -- how much do we hate our freedom and the privileges it brings. Listen to what’s out there and listen to that inner voice that is too often ignored. Obama is someone who hasn't had a proven record of making good decisions, for example the people he’s been associated with. He doesn’t even have a proven record of making change happen. You may be saying, why make someone guilty by association, but you need to ask yourself – would you have any of these people Obama is associated with as your reverend, your associate, your friend? If the answer is no then you know what your vote should be.

Posted by: FMF | October 9, 2008 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Pat M

I hate to break it to you but Reagan didn't bring down the wall, it was the endless war that the Soviet Union was fighting in Afghanistan that brought about the collapse of the Soviet Union and the Eastern Block.
Is this our future?

Posted by: Mack | October 9, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

Please, to all those who want to vote for Obama--read his books, you will understand why others don't think he should be president. His ideas and beliefs are much more radical than you can imagine. So do the world and yourself a big favor and at least educate yourself on what he stands for.

Posted by: FMF | October 9, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

FMF does not know what he is talking about. Association with Bill Ayers in the 1980s is not the same of associating with him in the 1960s. The FBI is much smarter than FMF gives them credit for.

Posted by: Earl C | October 9, 2008 6:35 PM | Report abuse

on November 4th I am going to take my 86 year old father to the poll and I am going to revel as I watch him pull the lever for Obama. I being an Independent am going to pull that lever also. I will pull the Obama lever also to honor my father. He is a man who, in the past, delivered MLK to our tiny high school to deliver a speech in hopes of raising consciousness in our small rual county in SC. I saw him suffer the indignaties of race for the sake of color. He got a GED and went on to become a magistrate and served on numerous other state boards. That is why I will vote for Obama,,,,,,,,,,But
I still think that he is a Democrat who happens to be minority. I do not forsee him implementing any of the changes that he is touting to the public. One may have noble ambitions but ambition wanes in the face of solid opposition within ones own party not to mention opposition from the right. Does anyone remember how Ted Kennedy and the Democratic liberals turned the page on Jimmy Carter? Carter too had grandiose ideas of right that went against the accepted norm in congress. Remember "how do you see America....I see America as a place for the people of the people......please help me make my dream become reality". At least Carter was blessed with a pure heart and thought that his idealism was shared by most people of faith. Obama has rehashed reagan's kinder, gentler America rhetoric and modified it under the banner of change. If there was any truth to his rhetoric ha would take the high road and quit approving old time politically destructive advertisement and offer true solutions to problems versus feel good statements to kodown to every segment of the electorate. McCain should do the same thing, mavericks lead by phisical superiority and will, not by telling people how great he used to be. I pray that and will pray for President Obama that he does not become disillusioned to find that he became President because of racial sensitivity in america and lack of strong opposition. thje worst thing that could happen is that he becomes a "Black" President and not an American President.
I pray that he remembers that the American economy has always been driven by globalization and opening new markets fior our goods and services. that is not a thing you change based on feel good speeches and weak idealogy. But again, out of respect for my father, a man wounded in defense of his country but denied a purple heart based on skin color i will vote for the man that he has asked God to spare his life to pull the lever.

Posted by: Robert | October 9, 2008 6:34 PM | Report abuse

In your dreams, anonymous. So you think that all we can come up with on McCain is Keating?

Let's see:
McCain, the adulterer.
McCain, the aviator who crashed his first plane, 100% pilot error. Without an admiral dad, he would never have been given another chance to fly.
McCain, the loose cannon. Not a maverick!
McCain, the liar
McCain, the mudslinger

Based on my Republican friends of the 1990s, McCain the adulterer would be enough to can him. Need I say more?

Posted by: EarlC | October 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

If Barack Obama applied for a job with the FBI or with the Secret
Service, he would not qualify because of his past association with Bill
Ayers, a known terrorist. If he is elected President he would not even qualify to be his own body guard! Don't throw it all away because you're angry about the economy or mad at Bush. Think about this as one of the most important decisions you'll ever make -- don't let your emotions rule. Let's stick together and make a clear-headed decision based on logic and fact

Posted by: FMF | October 9, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

John Kennedy had it, Ronald Reagan had it...Barack Obama has it. The ability to get people to unite for a common goal, the common good. Kennedy's vision landed us on the moon, Reagan's vision brought down the Berlin Wall. Obama's first big job will be to straighten up our current national economic nightmare, THEN... [it is heartwarming to anticipate the 'then'].

Posted by: Pat M | October 9, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin was/is a memeber if the AIP, an anti-American party. She hate the US. Be afraid of her. She is a traitor.

Posted by: Donttrustsarah | October 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

It is very obvious that McCain thinks that he has lost. The shrillness and anger of his attacks against Obama are the signs of a campaign that has lost its way. However, I have never seen such viciousness as expressed by almost all white crowds at the McCain-Palin rallies. The participants should be wearing either hoods or swastikas. I fear for our nation. The polarization that has been brought on by the Bush-brand of politics is coming to a head. So much for Christian ethics. The Bill Ayers stuff is so way over the top that heaven help anyone in our country who has ever done anything wrong and been able to turn his/her life around. Instead of looking at Bill Ayers and his wife and people who have not only turned their lives around but have also dedicated themselves to the betterment of the community in which they live as models of success, they castigate them. This should make those who are trying to turn their lives around wonder why the effort. I fear that worse than the McCarthy era is upon us. The rhetoric at McCain-Palin rallies is getting so far off course that one can begin to understand how Hitler got away with it for so long.

"My friends," when you look at a McCain-Palin campaign event, it looks like a white supremist pep rally. Take a good look! Then listen to the outbursts and the McCain-Palin oratory. It does not ease my mind to know that this type of stuff is happening.

Now, when one looks at what the traditional Republican Party stood for, people like Bill Ayers, Barack Obama, and so forth are the models of people who have improved their status in life primarily through their own efforts. These are people who have beat the odds to be where they are today. The Republican Party has been taken over by the radical wing of the Republican Party. I pray for a repudiation of this group at the polls in November.

Posted by: EarlC | October 9, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

The Palins are the ones who hate America. They belong to the AIP, a party that hates the USA. Sarah Palin's questioning of Obama's patriotism is just like the movie The Manchurian Candidate, where Angela Landsbury's husband was calling everyone in Congress a communist, when he was the real communist. SARAH PALIN HATES AMERICA!!!

Posted by: Palinshateusa | October 9, 2008 6:21 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm....seems like there's a good amount of "astroturfing" going on in the blogs...you know, "I'm a life long republican and conservative christian and gun owner, but I'll be voting for Obama, etc."

Please. Obama's an empty suit. You bought into the cult of personality and you deserve what you get.

He's a zilch.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 6:08 PM | Report abuse

""That Guy- Please spill the beans! This is awesome!

"Whats the matter Patrick in Sarasota? Did it surprise you that I was able to find your name and employer using nothing but what you posted here? Does the thought of your clients seeing this vitriolic hatred and prejudice scare you? Good. Don't worry though, I'm not going to do anything with that info. Other than make sure my company never does any sort of business with anything you are involved in.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 2:54 PM


Posted by: chrystyna | October 9, 2008 4:25 PM"

Lol typical liberals. Threaten people that disagree with you. Nice.

Posted by: Cryos"

This was a bad statement to make but I think it shows a poor judge of character to pull something like this on someone in an online forum although it is not typical liberal VOTER but typical liberal POLITICIAN.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

"Rezko was a bad guy. But Obama did nothing wrong by buying a house from him. Sure he got a deal, but in my mind that just means he is a smart investor."

LOL. Yeah you are really someone with integrity. So I guess you agree with all the corruption in Washington. It just means they're good investors. I guess this explains your justification for anything Obama. You have the right to your opinion but I think this reveals much about your character.

"I just feel that people that use this "guilty by association" idea just have nothing good to say about their own candidate.

Posted by: TIM"

McCain has a solid record of working across the aisle and getting things done. His voting record and bill sponsorships blow Obama out of the water. I don't necessarily like him and I think he is more "liberal" on some of the wrong things but with a choice between the 2 I could not choose Obama.

I know you don't seem to understand why people look at guilt with association with Obama. You seem so partisan you instantly believe any hearsay, rumor, etc about republicans and instantly deny it about liberals. Basically you believe what your told as long as it supports your party. That's your right to think that way.

However some people learn and know not to trust what politicians say. Since Obama's actions contradict his words (like most politicians) and he has very little of a track record that leaves people to judge him on his character and judgement which is partially composed of by your associations.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"That Guy- Please spill the beans! This is awesome!

"Whats the matter Patrick in Sarasota? Did it surprise you that I was able to find your name and employer using nothing but what you posted here? Does the thought of your clients seeing this vitriolic hatred and prejudice scare you? Good. Don't worry though, I'm not going to do anything with that info. Other than make sure my company never does any sort of business with anything you are involved in.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 2:54 PM


Posted by: chrystyna | October 9, 2008 4:25 PM"

Lol typical liberals. Threaten people that disagree with you. Nice.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Average American,
And that is a frightening title indeed if your viewpoints are actually that. Fortunately, the polls say they are not.

To clarify a few points:
You said:
"You don't care for war (who dose?) and you say you are ashamed of your country for keeping preemptive strikes on the table. Well, I guess your head was struck in the sand, or somewhere else dark with no oxygen, during the preemptive strikes that occurred 9/11/2001?"
My response is: The terrorist attacks of 9/11 were attributed to a group and not to a country. Yes, I was around to witness the horror. But what happened here really paled in comparison to our utter devastation of Iraq in the name of "bringing them peace".
So what are you saying exactly? That because a terrorist group believed to be based in Saudi Arabia carried out the 9/11 attack, we were justified in our "preemptive strike" against Iraq?

You also said "Then you say you don't support the teachings of Obama's 20+ years of "AMEN!" while sitting in the pew of Rev. Wright, you know, racism, anti-America hate speech! You even suggest that Bill Ayers is somehow reformed? Really! He praise the attacks of 9/11, oh yea, you weren't here for that! Not to mention his posing for a photo standing on an American Flag..."
My response:
We don"t know what that reverend preached for 20 years. We do know that Barack Obama has denounced what his ex reverend said recently. And it upset him enough to split from that church. In fact, I believe much of what Wright raved was in indignation over that. We also know enough about Sarah Palin's preacher to be equally appalled. At least those who care to know do.Sarah Palin apparently is very happy with her whack job preacher.
As for the Ayers allegations, he has expressed his remorse for his actions. When he said he was sorry that his group did not do more to end the Vietnam War, that was twisted into sorry they did not plant more bombs. The picture of him standing on the flag was PRINTED around Sept 11 but taken much earlier. Back in the 60's many, many of our young disenfranchised were doing similar desperate acts. And by this I mean the flag business. I am in no way belittling the other acts. But I see no reason to ruin his life now or to condemn anyone associated with him, particularly in acts of charity. BTW, the committe they were on was sponsored by a current crony of McCain's. If you go to Ayer's website which I did because I wanted the truth, you will find that he is a caring person who has devoted his life to good things and who does regret his mistakes. I have read no reports of him actually hurting anyone and I suspect that was because he meant not to.

Posted by: Save America - and the world | October 9, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Bill Clinton one of America's greatest presidents? What happened to Jimmy Carter?
I wonder what Britney Spears would say to that...

Posted by: fedupwithdems | October 9, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Someone posted earlier that the reason Bill Clinton will go down as one of America's Greatest Presidents is because of a Republican Congress.

Not True.

Bill Clinton's first two years as President were the most productive for America and set the tone for his entire Presidency. Those first two years Clinton had a Democratic Congress.

Obama can be a great one too.

For more about a "Turtle on a Fence Post" please view:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_z6ucUICC0

Yes We Can!

Posted by: A MAN FROM HOPE | October 9, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow Who would of thunk it a Sex Therapist and a NRA member.
Seems odd but then again both of them like to play with guns.

"This is my rifle, This is my gun, This ones for fighting, This ones for fun"
-USMC cadence when marching

Posted by: Stuck In Mccains State | October 9, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Despite a coordinated move by central banks across the planet to cut interest rates, stock markets continued their downward spiral. . Some analysts are now suggesting the crisis could be even more severe than previously believed. Stocks plunged in the final minutes of trading today (10/09/08), sending the Dow down more than 650 points (7.33%) to their lowest level in more than five years. All indexes were all also down—NASDAQ fell ~5.5% and S&P losing 6 percent. This is crisis. If you look at the recessions in this country going back to the '40s, the stock market falls an average 34% before bottoming, and we are just past that point now. The only question: Will this be average or something worse?


Despite the economic downturn, lost of jobs, declining wages, long unemployment lines and bailouts, McCain wants to discuss about manufactured “character” wedge issue! WTF! Does this guy even comprehend the acuteness of our present economic conditions? I very much doubt it. I guess when you are worth close to 200+ million dollars with multiple mansions in different time zones, you assume life is a beach. It is NOT. Real people are hurting—losing jobs, losing their homes, livelihood to a fault of their own. Candidates should talk about their plans on the economy. Voters want to hear their plans on job creation; voters want to know how they can send their kids to school, put food on the table, pay their electricity and heating bills, etc. McCain should stick to the issues.

Any reasonable person that is even considering for voting this babbling fool should have their heads examined. I am looking at my 401K quarterly statement and it has lost more than

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Wow, McCain and Palin are inciting the public in their rallies with their propaganda against Senator Obama. Today they had a crowd telling McCain to get tougher with Senator Obama. Some wanted to know how McCain "let Obama get ahead" of him!! At the rate McCain and Pilan are capaigning and spreading false garbage, they will soon have a riot in their hands as their own supporters are being angry with McCain and Pilan for being behind in the polls! Whod'be thunk it? All the garbage John McCain and his robotic high-heeled hyena with lipstick is beginning to backfire on them even with their own supporters. When they asked how come he was behind in the polls, McCain did not have much to say. McCain and Palin are too dumb to realize WHY they are behind and even if they do realize it, they sure as heck will not admit it. I am sick and tired of McCain and that high-pitched whiney Sara besmirching Senator Obama!!

Posted by: NinaK | October 9, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

chrystyna - Go do a YAHOO search for Sarasota, FL and "Patrick" and the name you come up with is Mary McFate, a sex therapist and NRA employee. If you go look at her posts (usually under 'Wild Thing') you will discover the same lingistic patterns and subject matter inflicted upon readers here. What'cha liekly got, chrystyna, is a *paid* RNC/NRA hack.

Posted by: Mike from Oregon | October 9, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

For everyone who thinks Obama hates the US, Palin is the realy traitor. Read this:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/

They belong the the Alaska Independence Party, a secessionist party who's founder stated : “My government is my worst enemy. I’m going to fight them with any means at hand.”

Who's the real America hater? The PALINS!!

Posted by: Gcndc | October 9, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous wrote:
"JimZ,
It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!"

Anonymous, your dog has no teeth. No plan, poor judgment (Palin, incredibly inept), and very little capacity to adapt to a complex and fast moving world.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

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To Tim:

You can paint a skunk, but it's still a skunk. The reputation of Rezko, Ayers, and Wright is well known, and birds of a feather flock together. Always.


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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Hmmmm...we have over 300 million people in America, at least a 150 million eligible voters, and we have a problem selecting a one true leader? From the look of the majority of your comments, Obama is a socialist and a terrorist and McCain is an incompetent lier. The future doesn't look too bright, doesn't it? Who is responsible for this fiasco?
I wonder what Paris Hilton thinks...

Posted by: fedupwithdems | October 9, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

That Guy- Please spill the beans! This is awesome!

"Whats the matter Patrick in Sarasota? Did it surprise you that I was able to find your name and employer using nothing but what you posted here? Does the thought of your clients seeing this vitriolic hatred and prejudice scare you? Good. Don't worry though, I'm not going to do anything with that info. Other than make sure my company never does any sort of business with anything you are involved in.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 2:54 PM

Posted by: chrystyna | October 9, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"Why does Obama's history of association with and/or support from a terrorist, crook, racist, and anti-American not bother you?

EASY!

1) Ayers is a neighbor. Obama has no ties to anything that Ayers has done in the past. I believe that the judicial system in this country isn't fair, but if we give a man a sentence, and he serves it, and he doesn't commit a crime afterwards, he is no longer a criminal. So, Ayers is just a English Professor in my mind, what is wrong with Obama knowing a college professor? As for the money stuff, the REPUBLICANS gave Ayers $50 million dollars, not Obama.

2) Rev. Wright is not as racist as everyone thinks. Sure, he has a 30s clip on utube of him saying some stupid sh*t, but who doesn't? Mel Gibson, Kramer, Bill o'reily, Don Imus, ....the list goes on. The truth is you can not judge someone by 30 seconds of a bad day. Also, just because Obama listened to Wright, doesn't mean that all that Obama came away with was racism. There are plenty of people in this country who are not racist, but have listen to racist parents/grandparents for years. Intellegence is the ability to filter what is important, and was is giberish.

3) Rezko was a bad guy. But Obama did nothing wrong by buying a house from him. Sure he got a deal, but in my mind that just means he is a smart investor. I would like a smart investor in control of the economy. Obama has already admitted that he was young and niave, and probably should have checked into Rezko's backround before taking the deal.

AND:

If i was to start judging Obama by the people he knows, I would have to judge McCain by his friends, Graham, Davis, Liddy, Keating....

I just think it is childish to label someone guilty by association. I have friends still today that have crappy jobs, drug convictions, drinking problems, and make all sorts of bad choices, but that doesn't mean that I am like them. I choose to go to college, study and get a degree, find a engineering job, and propose to my girlfriend.

I just feel that people that use this "guilty by association" idea just have nothing good to say about their own candidate.

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

"UNFIT TO COMMAND" remember the title? Remember the swift boating of John Kerry" all lies!!!
Here are some truths!!!
"I have a temper, to state the obvious, which I have tried to control with varying degrees of success because it does not always serve my interest or the public's." -
Skin Cancer -- Prescription Strength Arthritis -- Debilitating Anger Problems
He has severe skin cancer, advanced arthritis, high cholesterol and debilitating anger problems that beg the question: do Americans realize just how close VP candidate Sarah Palin is to actually becoming President of the United States of America?

John McCain openly declared on 60 Minutes tonight that he does not care what the MAJORITY of the American people want.

If this is not enough to be of concern, you need to look into his association with the following:

WORLD COUNCILFOR PEACE
SHELLY SHANNON
DR. ANTHONY BOUSCAREN
OREGON CITIZENS ALLIANCE
LEONORE ANNENBERG
SUPPORTS EUGENICS


Posted by: izzy | October 9, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

McCain's problem is not that he doesn't understand, it is that he picked the wrong party this time around. After straddling the fence for years , Mr "Not Congeniality" finally had to take one side of the dodge ball court. He would have had a better chance of forming the "hermaphrodite" party and picking Joe Lieberman.
Bush and the Neocons have bankrupt our economy, constitution, world stature and too many parts of the American way of life.
(quick... what is the fear, I mean, security threat color level today?) Bin Laden GOT what he wanted when the US pulled out of Saudi Arabia. (one week before "Mission Accomplished")
James A Baker (appointed to re-structure Iraq debt by the president of Iraq….George Bush) was first in line to DEFEND the Saudis against lawsuits for the 9/11 attacks. The Operation Iraqi Liberation (OIL) was NEVER about Saddam as a threat, or WMD but controlling (slowing!) the flow of oil to keep the Texas Mafia in the money. ( windfall profits $300+ Billion for the US Oil Companies in the first three years after OIL.) Saddam was pissing them off by turning off and on the oil spigot and they couldn't keep the price where they wanted.
(Wake up, there is lots of oil but they have to keep YOU believing that there is a shortage so you swallow the $3.99 /gal)

The connections between the Bush/Cheney/Baker/Rummy crew and the real home of America haters, the Saudis, are criminal. McCain was not their poster boy, to be sure, but he fell in line during the campaign. ( He said on Meet the Press," I agree with GW", big mistake for an eventual "change" campaign)

You have to enjoy the irony of the Welfare Daddies now on Wall Street. You KNOW the fox has been watching the hen house when it has melted down to the point that many conservative voices are calling for Nationalization of our banks. 
When you have to write into law (Google: Phil Gramm CFMA 2000 ) that Credit Default Swaps are "not subject to any local or state gambling laws," that should be a red flag. ( “stop whining,” they were trying to put your Social Security on the Roulette Table.)

But fortunately, the genius W. has enlightened us that "it turns out that these economic factors are interrelated" and " its a house of cards" . Thanks Capt. Obvious. (I would love to see a survey of how many Americans think the Federal Reserve is a branch of the govt. vs. a private corp.)

The people who are still spewing the hate against Obama, I need to ask how this "dangerous sleeper cell" got into the U.S. Senate! Where were you to "save" us before he got access to all of capitol hill...? If you knew all this important information, I think it was very unpatriotic of you to keep it secret until now. 
What ? oh... you just made it up as he got closer to the White House. And why is McCain holding out on how to get Bin Laden, ("I know how to get him"). Is that "Country First".??? When you withhold information about the Security of the USA….I think there is a word for that. I think I heard it yelled at a Palin Rally..Treason.
I've read both OBama's and McCain's books and it is obvious to me that ONE worked his way up, like many of YOUR forefathers ("that one") and ONE rode both Admiral's coattails along for the party. (How many Presidential Nominees have strippers mentioned as part of their intro at the national convention?) How many pilots in the military crash three or is it four jets and still get reinstated? Only when the base you’re landing at is named after your Granddaddy.
I do not think Obama is the messiah or anything close, I also am not stupid enough to think the decline of the US in the world can or will be reversed. But it is obvious that John McCain, when he gets under pressure starts to act mean and erratic.

He has moved too far in line with the Bush/Cheney admin. and he has no where to go to find votes except to send his Barracuda into the hills with her winking fear message. Hey, even these people have seen the price of shotgun shells double since they "elected" W. last time. I've even heard that some of them think the (R) stands for Recession, probably just a MSM rumor. ( Don't you hate when dumbing down the population comes back to bite you)

American's are in their own economic "shock and awe" and that fear mongering message is being drowned out by the bill collectors ringing. 



Palin's foreign policy "experience", watching Putin fly over the Matanuska Valley, is the joke of the free world. But I have to admit, although she only just got a passport, she does have the distinct advantage of speaking in tongues, which should come in handy with any "End Times" world leaders she may encounter.
Take that Rosetta Stone.
It is also interesting to see Cindy McCain hit Obama with "walk in my shoes" rhetoric, but I would bet Obama would not know what to do with a $3500 pair of Manolo Blahnik's and I'm sure the chill that went through her was a Percocet post- addiction flashback.
It's over... unless Diebold can fire up their executable files one more time and if they do, The US will dive like a Hanoi civilian bombing raid. I'm not saying I wouldn't be curious to see that train wreck...I ADMIT that is why I watch NASCAR. With all the cameras and surveillance Cheney has installed in the White House before his departure, I'm sure a full scale Reality Show would be a cinch. Imagine a Reality show about the McCain /Palin Executive Branch...too bad “Big Brother” has already been taken for a title.

I can see it now " Tune in this week, As Cindy gives us decorating tips with Dale Chihuly blowing Anheuser Busch bottles into $20,000 door prizes for your next fundraiser, and Sarah, gives us a tour of the new Queen Anne style rabbit hutches at Number One Observatory Circle AND we''ll accompany Pres John to his anger management class where he tries to pick up the counselor, but gets shot down again.
OK, that was just for me......
When I was young, my dad told me one thing about politics... It is a pendulum that will swing back after it has been pushed too far one direction. That sound you hear is the pendulum at warp speed.
If you really want to make history John McCain...do something really maverickesque and suspend your campaign permanently.

Posted by: THATone | October 9, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I agree with you Cyros. There must be validation. I do not believe and trust everything I read but this is a quote from McCain's book: This distressed me considerably. I feared my ambitions were among the casualties in the calamity that had claimed the Forrestal. Read the latest article in Rolling Stone about McCain. He also recounted his story to a NY Times reporter that arrived on board to cover the story and left with him on the helicopter for his r&r.
I know events can get skewed, written, and edited to present a certain point of view. However there are quotes from men that served with him in the article. So I feel there is some truth to the events.
I also don't believe all that is written on Obama as well. Unfortunately this is the state of today's media.
I also believe that neither one is a viable candidate but that is what we are stuck with. So a choice must be made with what we have. Is that choice McCain or Obama? Who knows, it doesn't matter. This country is not run by the president or congress. Big business does. The lobbyists that are hired by companies set the agenda for what they think is best for them, not the country.
So with that long rant said, do you want McCain being big business' figurehead?

Posted by: McCains Ego | October 9, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

McCain is a first class idiot. He was making fun of Obama during the second debate about an overhead projector. It turns out it is a projector for the planetarium where thousands of kids learn about astronomy. Our future astronauts and nobel prize winners come from the crowd of little kids who go to these planetariums. I don't think McCain has ever looked at the sky or wondered how to put foot on the next planet. For McCain to trivialize it and talk about it as if it is a middle school class room projector is so absurd. How is he going to fund NASAs projects if he does not even understand the importance of a planetarium.

Posted by: Stewart Lee | October 9, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

"Judging by your comments on the thread nothing would prove you wrong in your mind. However I'm sure other people on the thread have seen several of your assertions proven wrong. I love your post of information from Obama's site and no links to neutral sources to back it up. That makes it really really credible."

Does this prove me wrong?

Nope. If some of my facts are wrong, PROVE IT OR STFU.

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

""Keep telling yourself the same thing over and over and maybe it will make it true even if its not. Thus is the mantra of the Obama campaign."

Does that prove that I am wrong?

Nope.

Posted by: TIM"

Judging by your comments on the thread nothing would prove you wrong in your mind. However I'm sure other people on the thread have seen several of your assertions proven wrong. I love your post of information from Obama's site and no links to neutral sources to back it up. That makes it really really credible.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Billw ask of Tim:
"Do you beat up on the cat when no one's looking?"

Tim replied:
"Are you calling Cryos a p*ssy?"

Giving the devil his due, that's pretty good. Now... answer this please:

"Why does Obama's history of association with and/or support from a terrorist, crook, racist, and anti-American not bother you?

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

kilroy said:

"You constructed that argument pretty well, but you're still wrong unless you catch them voting for the "white half" only."

Contrary to some ethnic beliefs, racism works against all races, so no, if you vote for Obama, barring a miraculous revelation of qualification, then what else would be the "CHANGE" being made? You know as well as the rest of the world, Obama is seen as black…

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

"Keep telling yourself the same thing over and over and maybe it will make it true even if its not. Thus is the mantra of the Obama campaign."

Does that prove that I am wrong?

Nope.

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

". . . . HEY TIM . . . .

Do you beat up on the cat when no one's looking?"

Are you calling Cryos a p*ssy?

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

"Cryos,

You lost the debate so you move on to the next smear plan.

I think your plan is to keep bringing up stupid ideas until smart people just give up fighting with you.

You lose everytime someone debates with you. Your record is like 0-100. Looks like you have "experience" as a debater, but that obviously doesn't make you good at it.

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 3:56 PM"

Keep telling yourself the same thing over and over and maybe it will make it true even if its not. Thus is the mantra of the Obama campaign.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

"To Average American and Cryos
The tragedy was caused by an errant missile that came off a plane on the flight deck. It wound up hitting McCain's jet setting of fires and explosions. Yes, he was nearly killed doing his job. How come he didn't continue with his job while his shipmates were doing theirs.There was no briefing for scheduling attacks. I'm sure he was shaken up by the incident but that comes along with the job his family got for him. Why did he go on r&r while the rest of the crew, who I'm sure were shaken up as well, stayed on board and did their job.

Posted by: McCains Ego"

Ask his shipmates or people involved. Its easy to post a hypothetical situation without being there. I don't know if he was in the right or wrong but neither do you. I put about as much credibility into this as I did the swift boat attacks against Kerry. Without validation they mean nothing.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Cryos,

You lost the debate so you move on to the next smear plan.

I think your plan is to keep bringing up stupid ideas until smart people just give up fighting with you.

You lose everytime someone debates with you. Your record is like 0-100. Looks like you have "experience" as a debater, but that obviously doesn't make you good at it.

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

"To vote for Obama, while touting "change", being such an under qualified candidate, in light of his lack of economic, military or foreign experience, is to vote based solely on his race. That makes you a racist if you vote for Obama! Making decisions based only on race."

You constructed that argument pretty well, but you're still wrong unless you catch them voting for the "white half" only.


Posted by: Kilroy | October 9, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

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. . . . HEY TIM . . . .

Do you beat up on the cat when no one's looking?


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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

To Average American and Cryos
The tragedy was caused by an errant missile that came off a plane on the flight deck. It wound up hitting McCain's jet setting of fires and explosions. Yes, he was nearly killed doing his job. How come he didn't continue with his job while his shipmates were doing theirs.There was no briefing for scheduling attacks. I'm sure he was shaken up by the incident but that comes along with the job his family got for him. Why did he go on r&r while the rest of the crew, who I'm sure were shaken up as well, stayed on board and did their job.

Posted by: McCains Ego | October 9, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Another note regarding taxes. Explain to me how I should take Obama at his word on taxes. The last democratic president Bill Clinton promised similar things as this link to his campaign brochure.

www.4president.org/brochures/billclinton1992brochure.htm

""BILL CLINTON OFFERS AN ECONOMIC PLAN TO COMPETE AND PROSPER IN THE WORLD ECONOMY

Bill Clinton will cut taxes for the middle class and make the rich pay their fair share.""

The result? Everyone making over $20,000 a year got increased taxes. I guess upper class meant making $21,000 a year.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

JimZ,

It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog!

You look at the result of a selfless life of service when you cast your eyes upon John McCain.

Just look at Obama to see what "go along to get along" gets even the sadly unqualified. A real party puppet.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Cryos,

Please respond:

"Lol. Your assumptions are so full of holes its amusing. You actually validate one of my claims with "other businesses will take over." All US companies will be forced to raise prices and will have an even harder time competing. FOREIGN COMPANIES WILL TAKE OVER. But I guess you are so right you don't actually have to explain things. You couldn't win a debate with yourself."

Still not talking about McCain eh?

Well, to answer you again, and prove you wrong AGAIN:

All of the US companies are not getting a tax increase under Obama's plan. So yoiur logic has a huge flaw.

Obama is raising taxes only on corporations that outsource their labor to other countries, and he is GIVEN A TAX BREAK to the companies that keep jobs in the US. So either the companies will hire more people in the US, or they will lose the same about of money and oursource the labor, thats up to them. Hopefully they hire more Americans, because the other option is just throwing money away.

Also, new companies will have alot of tax breaks. So i hope walmart raises its prices, then the mom+pop shops can open up new, with less taxes, get a tax break on top of that for hiring actually americans, and they can use these tax breaks to keep their prices low, lower then the companies that try to pass the taxes onto the consumers.

What you will get is more small companies with good value, and less corporations. Sounds good to me.

I guess you could use McCain's plan to give more tax breaks to the companies that send our money to china. Why do you love sending American money to other countries?

And why can't you tell me anything good about McCain?

HOW MANY TIMES TO I HAVE TO ANSWER YOU IDIOTIC LOGIC WHILE YOU CAN NOT ANSWER AN EASY QUESTION?

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Even the much maligned Karl Rove, observed that McCain's choice of Sarah Palin, the Russian neighbor, was about the campaign and not governing. This amounts to style over substance.

McCain's style is dramatic, quirky, and old school. Of course, you might expect some eccencities from a 70-year old, broken man. You have to wonder if McCain's brain was damaged while he was tortured by the Viet Cong.

Posted by: Richard | October 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

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Tim says:
"You can cry and complain, and call me stupid"

Poor tim. Go back and read, I did not call you stupid. You write a long diatribe, post it twice, but did not answer my question:

"Why does Obama's history of association with and/or support from a terrorist, crook, racist, and anti-American not bother you?

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

"And why can't you tell me anything good about McCain?

HOW MANY TIMES TO I HAVE TO ANSWER YOU IDIOTIC LOGIC WHILE YOU CAN NOT ANSWER AN EASY QUESTION?"

You try blowing me off and every time I've brought up positive things about McCain its "you're dumb" so I'm not going to bother. It's more fun debunking your BS Obama talking points anyways. You think I really care what some partisan hack on a blog thinks?

By the way maybe you should do research other than Obama's site on taxes. Here's a helpful hint although this is a non-partisan site so might scare you.

www.taxfoundation.org/candidates08/compare

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

These "pro-McCain" (anti-Obama)comments are a sad testament to how desperate and pathetic the GOP will become when they realize their horse in this race is lame.

Posted by: JimZ | October 9, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

McCains Ego,

You might want to review the video of John McCain narrowly escaping his burning Jet abort the USS Forrestal. The man was very nearly killed!

I'm sure Mr. Hussein has had to face such life and death circumstance! Let's not even compare the lack of understanding NoBama has as a result of his non-existent military service. He was too busy serving himself, a true Democrat!

Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 3:43 PM | Report abuse

"Also let's point out that while on the USS Forrestal, this war hero did nothing to help his ship or shipmates while fires and explosions were threatening the safety of the ship. He went down to the pilot's briefing room. "

Hmmm maybe this is crazy but it sounds to me like he was doing his job. Maybe his responsibility was to be briefed to carry out air strikes against the threat against their ship? FYI the military isn't a free for all socialism where you do what you want you do your job.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

"Lol. Your assumptions are so full of holes its amusing. You actually validate one of my claims with "other businesses will take over." All US companies will be forced to raise prices and will have an even harder time competing. FOREIGN COMPANIES WILL TAKE OVER. But I guess you are so right you don't actually have to explain things. You couldn't win a debate with yourself."

Still not talking about McCain eh?

Well, to answer you again, and prove you wrong AGAIN:

All of the US companies are not getting a tax increase under Obama's plan. So yoiur logic has a huge flaw.

Obama is raising taxes only on corporations that outsource their labor to other countries, and he is GIVEN A TAX BREAK to the companies that keep jobs in the US. So either the companies will hire more people in the US, or they will lose the same about of money and oursource the labor, thats up to them. Hopefully they hire more Americans, because the other option is just throwing money away.

Also, new companies will have alot of tax breaks. So i hope walmart raises its prices, then the mom+pop shops can open up new, with less taxes, get a tax break on top of that for hiring actually americans, and they can use these tax breaks to keep their prices low, lower then the companies that try to pass the taxes onto the consumers.

What you will get is more small companies with good value, and less corporations. Sounds good to me.

I guess you could use McCain's plan to give more tax breaks to the companies that send our money to china. Why do you love sending American money to other countries?

And why can't you tell me anything good about McCain?

HOW MANY TIMES TO I HAVE TO ANSWER YOU IDIOTIC LOGIC WHILE YOU CAN NOT ANSWER AN EASY QUESTION?

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

""I just don't want them running the country..."

EXACTLY!

I wouldn't hire McCain or Palin to be a door greeter at Wal-Mart. McCain would eventually wander off, and Palin might try and exorcise someone.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 3:35 PM"

Obama would be a perfect door greeter. All style and talk with no substance or action.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

.
ODE TO OBAMA OPUS 1

Now some think Obama's a white knight,
But he really is not all that bright..
Just bright enough to climb
Up the ladder with slime
Like Rezko, Ayers, and Wright,


.

Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

To Ninak
Let's hope third time is not a charm.
Also let's point out that while on the USS Forrestal, this war hero did nothing to help his ship or shipmates while fires and explosions were threatening the safety of the ship. He went down to the pilot's briefing room. If he were injured, shouldn't he have gone to the sick bay? Then the next day he leaves for some r&r while the crew is still recovering bodies. I guess partying was more important.

Posted by: McCains Ego | October 9, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

"I just don't want them running the country..."

EXACTLY!

I wouldn't hire McCain or Palin to be a door greeter at Wal-Mart. McCain would eventually wander off, and Palin might try and exorcise someone.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

""Hmmm I remember the dotcom and tech crashes erasing much of the gains at the end of Clinton's term. Ignore the bubbles I guess. It would be like ignoring the housing situation on Bush's watch."

I am talking about the 500 Billion dollar surplus Bush started his 8 years with."

FYI economic activity (growth versus recession) has A DIRECT IMPACT ON TAX REVENUES so the 2 issues are coupled tightly. Obviously in your infinite wisdom you knew this but must have forgotten.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I like joe 6-pack and hockey mom. They are great to hang out with...good likable folks I like the cable guy too, he's funny...

I just don't want them running the country...

Posted by: dmWS | October 9, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Does Obama represent change? What change? Has he ever changed anything? What suggest he will make a change in the White House? Anyone who had to resort to getting lawyers to throw all other opponents off the ballot to win by default in Chicago most likely represents a change contrary to American Ideology. In fact, his record as a Senator shows that he follows the direction of the Democratic Party very closely, a real party puppet, not much change there, just politics as usual... McCain on the other hand follows what he believes is right regardless of the political norms of his party.

One could make a very good case that the ONLY change Obama would represent is a Black Man in the White House! I’ve conversed with a poster here who says that is why she will vote for Obama! I guess he's a novelty of the guilty minded white man, what other merits dose he have? Community Organization? Reading from a teleprompter? Just let is stop working and you'll be amazed at the empty head! I say, with no record of change or experience at all, Obama is dangerously under qualified! He would be strictly a Party surrogate. To vote for Obama, while touting "change", being such an under qualified candidate, in light of his lack of economic, military or foreign experience, is to vote based solely on his race. That makes you a racist if you vote for Obama! Making decisions based only on race.

Shame on you.

Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"When companies raise prices, other companies take over, it is called the economy, and that is how it works.

I am glad that you proved me RIGHT Cryos.

I told you I was expecting something from you that would explain McCain's Policies, and you proved to me that you are too ignorant to know any.

Thanks,
I am done with you.

Posted by: TIM"

Lol. Your assumptions are so full of holes its amusing. You actually validate one of my claims with "other businesses will take over." All US companies will be forced to raise prices and will have an even harder time competing. FOREIGN COMPANIES WILL TAKE OVER. But I guess you are so right you don't actually have to explain things. You couldn't win a debate with yourself.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

If we're going to have a debate about Obama's connections to Bill Ayers, then let's be fair and talk about McCain's connections to G. Gordon Liddy. Liddy received a 20 year prison sentence for his role in the Watergate break-in and burglary and bugging that brought down Richard Nixon. Carter commuted Liddy's sentence after 4 years to put Watergate behind us. Liddy is an unrepentant nut-job and thug. During the Watergate era, he plotted with gangland figures and planned to murder columnist Jack Anderson because he didn't like Anderson's investigative reporting. He plotted to kidnap demonstrators who might appear at the Rep. Nat'l Convention. He has a radio program on which he once exhorted listeners to murder federal law enforcement officers. "Shoot the bastards in the head. Go for head shots. They wear body armor." He later tried to say he didn't mean it quite the way it sounded. I'm sure that was a great comfort to cops who had to raid places where some of Liddy's wacky listeners might reside.

Liddy threw a campaign rally in his home for McCain. Last November, McCain appeared on Liddy's program and called him a dear friend and told him how "proud" he is of Liddy's "principles." Principles? The principles of a convicted felon and a man who by his own admission planned to have another man murdered? A man who urged listeners to kill police officers doing their sworn duty?

John McCain hasn't disavowed Liddy a single time. No. In fact, he appeared as late as May of this year on Liddy's program again. And Liddy has given McCain $5,000 in campaign money - $1,000 of it this year alone. To date, McCain hasn't returned a nickel of it. He still considers Liddy a great American.

John McCain is off his rocker, as is Gordon Liddy. You have only to read Liddy's book "Will" to see what a nut he is. But McCain is still tight with him.

And McCain and his little snow bunny Sarah have the gall to talk about Bill Ayers?

Posted by: Joe | October 9, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

From Sarasota-
I was lucky enough to get my undergraduate degree in Sarasota from the Florida Honors College (New College of Florida). Even though I haven't lived there in years, I just want to say that Patrick does not represent Sarasota. We are one of the most liberal towns in Florida, with a green record that any city could be proud of. Just don't want him sullying a good name.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"Hmmm I remember the dotcom and tech crashes erasing much of the gains at the end of Clinton's term. Ignore the bubbles I guess. It would be like ignoring the housing situation on Bush's watch."

I am talking about the 500 Billion dollar surplus Bush started his 8 years with.

"Hmmm wow I didn't know voting already happened. Ah that's right I need to believe what the media tells me even thought they get it wrong almost every election and this election have lost all neutral credibility."

According to polling.

"It will appear he will lower your taxes as long as you ignore factors like the extra taxes to business and capital gains will increase the costs of products you buy. Unless of course you are poor then you will get a free lunch and never pay for it. If you're middle class you lose."

When companies raise prices, other companies take over, it is called the economy, and that is how it works.

I am glad that you proved me RIGHT Cryos.

I told you I was expecting something from you that would explain McCain's Policies, and you proved to me that you are too ignorant to know any.

Thanks,
I am done with you.

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

wizard:

That is the longest post in history!

Posted by: palinwasapornstar | October 9, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Angela wrote:

"just because McCain servied the the military does not make him quailified to run the country. We don't the same ole' politics we have had for hundreds of years. Even if Obama was Asian i would vote for him, because he represents something diffrent from what is country has always seen. (Hate to play race here)"

AA: Based on your view you are making your decision based soley on race! That makes you a racist, right, making decisions based on race alone?

"take a look at how other countries view Obama they love him. 250,000 came out in Russia to see him. Even those who are in other countries knows OBAMA will be the next President"

AA: So you suggest voting based on what our enemies and foregien countries want for the U.S.? Sound logic?

"How can Obama be anti-american, be palling around with people who preach hate. Did you not forget Obama is half white, he grew up with a white mother, white grandparents, went to white schools and a white college. He didn't grow up with his father who is black. How can Obama be in thing other than American; like you he grew up White."

AA: This is a very good point to ask your self! If he is so "white" and full of national pride as you think, then why spend 20+ years agreeing with Rev. Wright? Who preaches anti-American hate speech that is very racial in nature!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

The only reason McCain wants to be president is that was never able to reach the same rank as his grandfather and father in the navy. Becoming president will make him the commander in chief, higher rank than either one of them achieved.

Posted by: McCains Ego
----------------------
Isn't this the 3rd time McCain has run for president? I, too, believe McCain wants to be president in order to vindicate himself to daddy and grampy McCain. McCain was the D-Minus student in highschool and at the naval academy, yet his parents rewarded him with a brand new Corvette convertible when he graduated 884 out of a class of 889! McCain was admitted to the naval academy and given his unearned wings ONLY because of the McCain name. (Both daddy and grampy were top-level admirals in the U.S. Navy). McCain was an underachiever and never met his daddy's & grampy's expectations. In short, McCain suffers from a huge inferiority complex. I believe Senator Obama, by his intelligence, intellect, integrity, leadership skills, wisdom, and vision reminds John McCain of his inferiority and McCain is boiling mad at Senator Obama because McCain knows in his heart he is competing against a great achiever!! So, McCain and Palin resort to namecalling, slander, deceit, racism, bigotry and trash-and-burn tactics to try and discredit a good and decent gentleman who is truely head and shoulders above the two of them put together! Senator Obama will make a wonderful president, perhaps one of the very best in U.S. history!

Posted by: NinaK | October 9, 2008 3:20 PM | Report abuse

Contrary to the sterotypical depiction of Obama supporters, I was not "anti-McCain" until recently. I started out a Hillary supporter, actually, but as she turned her campaign into the passive-aggressive politics of personal destruction, and thinly veilwed personal ambition, I moved away from her.

I left comletely when the "vote for Hillary or we'll vote for McCain" movement gained legs, an became the "Hillary 2012" campaign as she lost ground agaisnt Obama. But, I still hadn't completely defected yet. Then, Bill casually compared a Harvard educated senator to Jesse Jackson carrying South Carolina. How would he feel if someone compared him to, say, Ralph Nader? Clinton then noted that 95% of blacks voted for Obama in Mississippi, as if that meant something. The GOP pundits followed suit, forgetting that 95% of blacks vote DEMOCRATIC in general. I moved further away, disappearing around the corner. Obama won the nomination, but my mind wasn't completely made up yet.

McCain I supported in 2000 and considered EITHER candiate in this election winning a vast improvement over the staus quo. Then the selction of Palin gave me my first "WTF" moment. Failure to articulate a set of policies that distingushed him from his opponent, McCain lasped into the most negative campaign in years, much to my disappointment. I was personally embarassed for ever having said I liked him. I wonder how the "McCain Now, Hillary 2012" crowd feels now looking at this ugly, ugly campaign he's running?

Listening to Palin and her pointlessly provocative hammering of nonsubtantial issues long ago disputed, adding nothing new to McCain's platform, so I finally made up my mind. Sure, I shared some of the concerns about Obama many McCain supporters did, but...unfortunately, "attacking" your opponent is not the same as "beating" your opponent on the issues. Rumors and half-truths beget the same.

McCain has had unsubstantiated rumors himself, regarding his time as a POW, but thankfully Obama didn't bring that garbage into the campaign, unlike Bush versus Kerry. And though I still have certain issues with Obama, MCCAIN himself helped me make up my mind. I went from being a reluctant Obama supporter to anti-McCain.
Obama did not beat Hillary and mcCain as much as they beat themselves with hubris and nasty attitudes. Not the kind of friends people like hanging around with.

This headline below says it all. The piece is funny, too.


http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i41493

Posted by: Kilroy | October 9, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."

Pop quiz!
Who said that?

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," Vogler, the founder of Alaskan Independence Party, said in a 1991 interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.

Palin has courted the group over the years.

She has repeatedly reached out to the group. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group's 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.

Palin's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of the party from 1995-2002 with a brief exception in 2000.

Sarah Palin palling around with secessionists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

Why is that not making ANY news?!
That lady has nerve talking about Ayers.....
Seriously, where is the headline news on this stuff? Talk about guilt by association!
That Vogler guy takes the cake for any "anti-American" sentiments.
And Sarah wasn't six years old when she spoke, what, like three times at their conventions?!


Posted by: franglais | October 9, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Why doesn't Senator Obama fight back on the William Ayers case by showing how unpatriotic Sarah Palin is by her association with Alaska Indenpendent Party thru her Husband Todd Palin who was a member of the AIP from 1992 to 2002 and as early as this year Sarah Palin spoke in the AIP 2008 opening convention.
AIP is a radical group that advocates Alaska secession from the U.S and Todd Palin was a card carrying member of this hate-America extremist group.

Posted by: wizard | October 9, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"You had your chance for 8 years to take the wealth and prosperity from Clinton, and you blew it."

Hmmm I remember the dotcom and tech crashes erasing much of the gains at the end of Clinton's term. Ignore the bubbles I guess. It would be like ignoring the housing situation on Bush's watch.

'You candidate is behind by 100 electoral votes and needs to win 10 states that are on the edge for Obama."

Hmmm wow I didn't know voting already happened. Ah that's right I need to believe what the media tells me even thought they get it wrong almost every election and this election have lost all neutral credibility.


"I am voting for Obama because he will lower my taxes, let my family have affordable healthcare, help lower education costs, reduce the national budget, increase jobs, fund renewable energy, hold CEO and corporations at fault, and be diplomatic to the world."

It will appear he will lower your taxes as long as you ignore factors like the extra taxes to business and capital gains will increase the costs of products you buy. Unless of course you are poor then you will get a free lunch and never pay for it. If you're middle class you lose.

Its funny Obama likes talking about controlling CEOs and corporations but continuously votes to increase lawsuits and put no similar limits on lawyers even though they can make the same as CEOs such as the state tobacco lawsuits where many lawyers made $30,000+ an hour. I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact most republican politicians are businessman, most democrats are lawyers, and trial lawyers are HUGE contributors to his and democrats campaigns.

The other statements are too generalized so no sense in responding but if you care to discuss them in detail bring it on.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The Ultimate Sarah Palin is Unfit to be Vice President List
Sarah Palin has shown poor leadership, fiscal and management skills and a lack of integrity, which shows she is unfit to be VP. She also is involved in scandals, controversies, countless lies, failures and more. Many highly respected Republicans, Independents and Democrats have stated that she is a poor choice. We have created this list to document the many negatives against Palin and will continue to update it as new information comes in.
1. Sarah Palin's Business Management and Fiscal Skills are Poor. Sarah Palin may claim she is a fiscal conservative and makes political points like selling the Governor's jet, but the reality is she has poorly managed both city and state finances and spending priorities. Her mismanagement of spending priorities as Governor would have received more visibility except that rising oil prices and increased state revenues from royalties covered her budget shortfalls. When Palin took over as mayor, Wasilla had zero debt; when she left office 6 years later it had $20 million in debt ($3000 per resident). [8] She put higher priority on a $15 million sports complex rather than a sewage treatment plant. The sports complex is now viewed as a budget-busting white elephant by local officials. [1] [74] She proceeded with construction on the sports complex without closing on the land, ultimately costing the city $1.5 million. [24] She was forced to hire a fulltime administrator as she faced a recall vote for precipitous firings. [1] As Governor, she provided little guidance and direction to the Legislature on budgets. [2] The Alaska budget is growing at a rate of 10% per year and the $1,200 payouts due to Alaskans in September are not consistent with restraining government growth. [4] She allocated $500 million subsidy for a gas pipeline project awarded to a Canadian company, TransCanada, rather than negotiate with an existing private venture to save money. [23] Palin was the first mayor of Wasilla with a full-time city administrator who did most of the actual, real work. [59] "Executive abilities? She doesn't have any," according to Nick Carney. Carney groomed Palin for her first political race in 1992 and served with her on the City Council. [74] A long time borough official said, "The borough takes care of most of the planning, the fire, the ambulance, collecting the property taxes. And on top of that she brought in a city manager to actually run the city day to day." [74] Palin refused to share an emergency dispatch operation with Palmer, Wasilla's town rival, so she got earmark money for her own system. "Now we have 2 expensive emergency systems and both are losing money", according to a borough official. [74] Carly Fiorina, one of McCain's key economic surrogates, said that Sarah Pailn does not have the experience necessay to run a major company. [90]
2. Sarah Palin Controversial Viewpoints and Associations. Sarah Palin's has controversial views on some issues and has connections with various groups which can make you worry about what kind of extreme actions she make take as vice-president. Referring to the planned gas pipeline project from the North Slope,"I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get the gas line built, so pray for that." [9] Palin describes the war in Iraq as %u201Ca task that is from God%u2026a plan that is God%u2019s plan.%u201D [9] She opposes abortion for instances of rape or incest, and supported a Constitutional Amendment saying the Constitution does not give right to an abortion. [15] [44] Her husband Todd was a member of the controversial Alaskan Independence Party [17] Sarah inquired about banning books at the city's library at a city council meeting. [5] Palin is for teaching creationism in public schools. [19] Palin supports a ban on gay marriage and denying benefits to gay couples, stating that she "doesn%u2019t know if people choose to be gay.%u201D [44] Palin's Wasilla Bible Church promotes "the power of God's love and His desire to transform the lives of those impacted by homosexuality." [47] Pat Buchanan stated that Sarah was one of his "brigaders" in 1996 and was at a fundraiser for him. [20] Wasilla was only town in Alaska that charged victims for their own rape kits ($500 - $1200) after Palin fired the police chief and approved a new budget without the line item for it. [61] Palin told a Wasilla resident that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," and that "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the [dinosauer] tracks." [98]
3. Sarah Palin is a Political Opportunist who is in it for Herself. If you study her record closer you will find that she is not this 'maverick' or political reformer who exposes corruption and political cronyism. She shows a lack of integrity by engaging in a lot of negative political tactics and looking out for herself and friends and not her constituents. She used the line item veto to kill several %u201Cpork projects%u201D to gain publicity for political reasons, but after public outcry she restored the projects stating that she was not aware of their importance. [1] [2] Appointed to chair of oil and gas reserve by Governor despite being highly unqualified. [1] Was for the "bridge to nowhere" before it became politically favorable to be against it. [1] One resident says she is savvy. She doesn't take positions; she just "puts things out there" and if they prove to be popular, then she takes credit. [2] "She announced her decision to scuttle the bridge project in a pre-dawn press statement released to meet East Coast media deadlines", according to Ketchikan Mayor Bob Weinstein. [14] Palin has repeated her "thanks but no thanks" regarding the bridge to nowhere. However, a NYT article shows that Congressional Republicans had already "put the wrecking ball to it" in 2005, a year before she was elected governor. [70] Frontiersman editorial stated "at every turn we find hints of cronyism and political maneuvering. We see a woman who has long-since surrendered her ideals to a political machine.%u201D [44] Palin conducted a very political and negative campaign for mayor focusing on issues like religion and abortion instead of local issues. [1] Palin's selling of Governor's jet was used to distinguish her as a reformer despite the fact it was already very unpopular among Alaskans and logically any new Governor would have sold it. [62] A conservative columnist, Paul Jenkins, confronted Palin about evidence she conducted campaign business from her mayor's office. She admitted to it and got a Fairbanks reporter to call him asking why he was trying to smear her. [57] As Governor, Sarah Palin accepted gifts valued at $25,367 from industry executives, municipalities and a cultural center. [95] As Mayor Palin sought and received a special zoning exception that was needed before she could sell her house and then reneged on a promise to remove a potential fire hazard. [99] Sarah Palin is about to spring another surprise: the wedding of her 17 year old pregnant teenage daughter to her 18 year old fianc頢efore the November 4 election. The wedding would divert attention from the campaign at a critical time. [100]
4. Sarah Palin's Leadership and People Skills are Poor. Palin is another divider. Someone who will not listen to others viewpoints and thinks she is always right. She is not a leader. She hired another top cop, but he had to resign after 2 weeks for a prior sexual harassment charge. The state gave him a $10,000 severance package for just 2 weeks on the job. [51] She was criticized for publically asserting that the US would go to war with Russia if Georgia was a part of NATO rather than giving a more diplomatic response appropriate for world leaders. [73]
5. Sarah Palin Lies, Deceives, Exaggerates and Acts Hypocritically. Often Palin has said lies or exaggerated things. Some of them are outright lies. Here they are exposed. Both Palin and McCain have distorted her record on budget cuts and spending, and how she stood up to Senator Ted Stevens on the %u201CBridge to Nowhere%u201D. [4] A Frontiersman editorial wrote, %u201CMayor Palin fails to have a firm grasp of something very simple: the truth.%u201D [44] Newshounds reports that "Palin told a passel of lies during her convention speech last night (9/3/08). But you%u2019d never know it from watching FOX News%u2019 analysis%u201D. [33] She hypocritically preaches abstinence despite evidence that she eloped because she was pregnant (having baby within 8 months of marriage) and married in a civil ceremony. Frontiersmen in 1997 accused Palin of making "patently untrue statements, unrepentant backpedaling, and incessant whining that her only enemies are the press..." [44] Palin deceived Americans by saying she put a state jet on Ebay when in fact it failed to sell three times and was eventually sold through a Broker, also a Palin supporter, at a $600,000 loss. [55] Palin lied about firing her personal chef as Governor in an attempt to make her look more fiscally responsible. The chef was actually reassigned because Palin spent so little time at the governor's mansion. [83] She claimed that Alaska "produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy" when facts show it is actually 3.5 percent (and 4.8% if strictly talking US Oil Consumption and 14% if talking US oil production). [63] Email records from scientists on polar bears obtained by a University of Alaska professor shows they agreed polar bears were in danger -- Palin had said the scientists had found them not to be in danger. [57] Palin outed Republican leader Ruedrich for conducting party business on state time; then later hypocritically "did the same thing that Randy Ruedrich did%u201D according to conservative columnist Paul Jenkins who confronted Palin with evidence. [57] During her speech to the RNC, Palin claims that "the teleprompter got messed up, I couldn%u2019t follow it, and I just decided I%u2019d just talk to the people in front of me". That false story has largely been debunked by reporters who were there. [68]
6. Sarah Palin's Bio & Credentials Show She is Unprepared to be VP. Many people, both Republicans and Democrats, have cited Sarah Palin's lack of credentials for being VP especially when compared to many other far more qualified candidates. "She's not prepared to be governor. How can she be prepared to be vice president or president?" said Alaskan Republican Senator Lyda Green. [10] Palin has only visited four countries in her life: Germany & Kuwait (briefly), Mexico and Canada. [31] An official spokesperson for Palin attempted to bolster her "resume" listing Ireland as one of three countries she visited in July 2007 trip even though it was only a fueling stop. [18] Sarah and Todd were part owners of a failed car wash company in Anchorage. [32] She attended five different colleges over six years receiving a single degree (journalism). [49] Palin was mayor of a very small town (5500 approx) where she received only 616 votes in her first election and 909 in her second for 1525 votes total. [85] "It's not rocket science," Palin said in describing her mayorial job to the Frontiersman. "It's $6 million and 53 employees." [59] "Sarah was unprepared to be mayor -- it was John Cramer who actually ran the city," said a member of the Mat-Su Borough Assembly, who knows Palin socially. [74] Until her recent photo ops at the UN, Palin had never met a foreign head of state. [69] [105] Watch Palin's rambling, clumsy, convoluted response to a question about energy, her supposed area of expertise. Palin's version of "Bush Speak"? [93] Responding to a question on Russia by Katie Couric, Palin embarked on another cringe inducing answer that can only be appreciated by watching it. [96] Newsweek's Fareed Zakaria says: "Sarah Palin is utterly unqualified to be vice president. She has never spent a day thinking about any important national or international issue, and this is a hell of a time to start." [97] Leading into the VP debate, Palin has only conducted 3 interviews since being nominated, while Biden has done nearly 100 interviews. [101]
7. Sarah Palin Displays Ignorance on Issues and Current Events. Except for some local and state issues, Sarah Palin has little knowledge of history or current events. She has been undergoing "crash courses" by former Bush people on political issues, and as such has largely been shielded from media reporters. The few interviews she has given have revealed not only ignorance, but an astonishing inability to articulate coherent answers to simple questions. She asked when interviewed, "What exactly does the VP do every day?" [13] Palin had to use detailed notecards to directly read answers to questions in debates when she ran for Governor. [14] Palin incorrectly thought the Pledge of Allegiance was written by our founding fathers (it was written in 1892). [86] She incorrectly believed privately owned Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were run by the government and said they "Got too big and too expensive to the taxpayers." [56] When interviewed, she was unable to explain Bush's foreign policy principles commonly called the "Bush Doctrine." [64] Speaking to troops deploying to Iraq, who even Bush eventually admitted had nothing to do with 9/11, she said, "defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans." [60] When Gibson asked "what insight into Russian actions does the proximity of the state give you?" Palin replied, "they%u2019re our next door neighbors. And you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska." [69] Palin was a journalism major in college, but in her Katie Couric interview, she could not name one specific news source that she reads. "Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years." [110]
8. Sarah Palin's Environmental and Alternative Energy Record is Poor. Sarah Plain has consistently and repeatedly put the interests of business ahead of environmental concerns, and also has shown little support for alternative energy programs and funding. The town of Wasilla with it's big box stores and unregulated sprawl is a testament to her lack of regard for the aesthetics and environment of the community. Palin favors drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge: "I beg to disagree with any candidate who would say we can't drill our way out of our problem." [1] [72] She sued the Department of Interior on its decision to list polar bears as threatened species because %u201Cit would hamper drilling for oil and gas%u201D. [1] [28] She has questioned if the loss of sea ice is really linked to global warming. [11] As governor, Palin vetoed a 50-megawatt wind farm and a clean coal facility. [8] Palin opposed efforts to protect beluga whales (only 375 estimated) located in a specific Alaskan inlet deeming it a threat to the oil and gas industry. [22] She opposed a "clean water" proposition to help prevent open pit mines from contaminating local drinking water and threatening salmon. [29] Palin said that %u201Calternative-energy solutions are far from imminent and would require more than 10 years to develop.%u201D [89] Palin approved an initiative allowing hunters to shoot wolves from airplanes -- also attempting to add a $150 per wolf incentive that was rejected as illegal by a state judge. [76] Palin vetoed a $1.5 million state and matching federal appropriation for a new energy reseach center at the University of Alaska that would have focused on developing new renewable energy technologies. [77]
9. Sarah Palin Uses Taxpayers Money for Political and Personal Gain. She has sought out excessive earmarks from the federal government in order to gain favor with her constituents and has also taken advantage of various perks of government office to excess. Her publicity seeking actions on earmarks earned her a popular reputation as %u201Canti-pork%u201D that influenced, in part, McCain%u2019s decision to select her as his VP running mate. [1] [25] In 2008 Alaska leads the nation in earmark requests with $556 per capita ($380 million) compared to an average of $34 per capita for other states. [3] [26] In 2006, Palin campaigned on a %u201Cbuild-the-bridge platform%u201D, but reversed herself once elected. She said %u201Cthanks but no thanks,%u201D but she kept the money for other pet projects. [3] As Mayor of Wasilla from 1996-2002, Palin hired a lobbying firm with close ties to Ted Stevens to garner nearly $27 million in earmarked federal funding for her city ($1000 per person). [46] [52] "They've definitely become addicted to earmarks," said Ellis, of Taxpayers for Common Sense. "And Gov. Palin has continued in at least some form that addiction." [3] Spent $50,000 of taxpayers money to remodel her office without City Council approval. When confronted she replied, "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't." [74] As Governor, the state furnished her the Governor's mansion in Juneau, but she billed state per diem expenses for 312 nights living at her home in Wasilla. [54] As mayor in 2002, Palin used city employees, telephones, computers, fax machines and literature for her campaign fundraising for lieutenant governor. [44] According to NYT, "she used city money to buy a white Suburban for the mayor%u2019s use" and "employees sarcastically called it the mayor-mobile" [57] While Palin exhorts the benefits to Alaskans of her gas pipeline from the North Slope, hidden in the details is the fact that her pipeline will not be built without massive Federal aid and loan guarantees. [58]
10. Sarah Palin's Cronyism, Value of Loyalty Over Competence and Intolerance of Others' Ideas. Sarah Palin is less concerned with having the best people in the job, but rather surrounds herself with loyalists that agree with her and defend her her every move. She has essentially replaced one "good ole boys network" with another, but with less competence. As Governor she has shown poor judgment by hiring inexperienced people and valuing loyalty to her ahead of competence for the job. [1] [2] [44] She has reputation for bullying, being intolerant of others opinions and not listening to ideas of others. [1] [44] As Mayor, demonstrating her value for loyalty, she often dismissed ideas that didn%u2019t originate with her staff without considering the merit of the ideas. [1] [44] She is defensive when challenged with opposing views, and has been known to fire people that disagree with her. [44] For a $95,000-a-year directorship over the State Division of Agriculture, Palin appointed a high school classmate and former real estate agent who cited her childhood love of cows as a qualification for running the $2 million dollar agency. [57] Palin hired Talis Colberg, a borough assemblyman who had never supervised anyone before, as attorney general to supervise 500 people. When asked if he has supervised anyone before Colberg responded, "%u2018No, but I think I%u2019ll get some help.%u2019" [57] According to the NYT, "Ms. Palin appointed Mr. Bitney, her former junior high school band-mate, as her legislative director and chose another classmate, Joe Austerman, to manage the economic development office for $82,908 a year." [57]
11. Sarah Palin is Divisive and Vindictive. Sarah Palin, in many respects, exhibits the behavior of some 3rd world dictators by purging her government of all those who might oppose her views or not show loyalty to her. She discredits, demeans and/or fires those that disagree with her or cross her. She tried to fire highly respected city librarian who refused to remove books that Palin found to be "morally or socially objectionable to her". [5] She fired members of the Alaska Agriculture Board in order to replace Creamery Board members who she could not fire. [6] As Mayor, she fired Wasilla%u2019s Police Chief because she claimed that he %u201Cintimidated%u201D her, but the Police Chief says it was because he was not loyal to her. [1] [27] The Police Chief cites retaliation by Palin's campaign contributors, including bar owners and the NRA, as one reason for his dismissal. [7] As Governor, she fired Alaska's top cop because he wouldn't fire her sister's ex-husband, a State Trooper, and now is "stonewalling the Legislative investigation". [1] [45] As Mayor, in an act of ruthlessness that stunned those in the community, she fired her loyal City Administrator. [1] "Once you cross her, you're off the list forever, and that's not the way you get by in politics," said state Sen. Hollis French, a Democrat. [14] Fear of retribution has kept many in Wasilla from speaking out about her in public. [1] Frontiersman editorial wrote, %u201CPalin continues to lose public faith sticking by her philosophy that either we are with her or against her.%u201D [44] The Frontiersman stated, %u201CWasilla is led by a woman who will tolerate no one who questions her actions or her authority.%u201D [44] Sarah was so divisive and hated as mayor that residents attempted a recall vote to remove her from office. [50] She fired two of six department heads for no real reason causing the other two to quit along with three others at the city's museum. [50] Republican speaker of the House, John Harris, said that Todd Palin called him to complain about selecting John Bitney as his chief of staff who Sarah had fired when she learned he had fallen in love with a longtime friend of hers. [57] Republican speaker of the house John Harris said, %u201CThe Palin family gets upset at personal issues. And at our level, they want to strike back.%u201D [57] According to the NYT, "The administration%u2019s e-mail correspondence reveals a siege-like atmosphere. Top aides keep score, demean enemies and gloat over successes." [57] Conservative Alaskan radio host Dan Fagan said Palin characterizes critics as %u201Cbad people who are anti-Alaska.%u201D [57]
12. Sarah Palin is Secretive and Evasive. "Open and transparent government" are not words that would describe Palin's approach to government. Her style appears to be closer to that of Dick Cheney's Vice-Presidency, where scrutiny of motives and actions are hidden from the public. She skipped four major debates during the 2006 general-election campaign for Governor of Alaska [14] In 1997 Palin refused to appear before a citizen's group stating, %u201Cshe doesn%u2019t intend to face the hostile group to answer their questions,%u201D asking them to fax their questions. [44] McCain camp hasn't allowed Palin to do TV interviews. McCain aide Davis said they "will do so only if he and other strategists determine it serves the ticket's purposes." [53] Palin called a special session in 2007 but attended so infrequently many legislators started wearing "Where's Sarah?" buttons. [57] When Palin vetoed millions of dollars in state legislative projects, she did not consult anyone except her husband and budget director. [57] Palin and her top officials used personal e-mail accounts for state business on occasions in an attempt to circumvent subpoenas. [57] As mayor of Wasilla, she issues a "gag order" to her employees instructing them to never talk to the media. [57] The New York Times stated, "Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy." [57] %u201CTheir secrecy is off the charts,%u201D Rick Steiner, a University of Alaska professor, was quoted as saying when he attempted to get information on scientific studies Palin had used to discredit the threat to polar bears. [57] Many city mayors complained that Palin was inaccessible. The NYT reports that "mayors across the political spectrum swapped stories of the governor%u2019s remoteness." [57] Dan Fagan a conservative radio talk show host said that "with Palin's refusal to cooperate with the independent investigator and her transparent delay tactics, Americans deserve to know what Palin is trying to hide." [75] The McCain camp has fought for tighter rules during the vice presidential debates to limit Palin's exposure [94] Sarah Palin waited until after the debate to release her tax returns to the public, and now according to tax experts she did not pay taxes on more than $60,000 of family travel reimbursements received. [115] Palin maintained a private discreet e-mail account outside the state government's secure official e-mail system that she used to communicate with a small circle of her most loyal staff members (also known as Palinistas). [113]
13. Sarah Palin is Negative and Disparaging Towards Others. Sarah Palin demeans and mocks those with opposing or differing views in order to detract attention from her own actions or shortcomings. She shows a lack of respect for others. Palin laughed when a controversial Alaskan DJ insulted a political rival and made a joke about her cancer and weight. [71] Palin demeaned community organizers in her RNC speech to which CivilRights.org replied, "We're a nonpartisan coalition but we do take exception when anyone disparages the vast contributions of community organizers to American society." [78]
14. What People are Saying about Sarah Palin as VP. Many political pundits are talking about her lack of credentials with good reason. Here are what a lot of notable people have said including many from her own party regarding her qualifications as a potential vice president. A respected feminist blogger said, "the decision to select Palin as the candidate for [VP] is the most insulting, anti-feminist choice John McCain and the Republican Party could have made." [12] Karl Rove criticized Tim Kaine's 3 yrs experience as Governor and his mayorship of the 105th largest city before McCain chose Palin (who has less experience). [16] [21] AP reported that Palin issued %u201Cdismissive attacks on Barack Obama and flattering praise on her credentials to be vice president - the reproach and the praise stretched the truth.%u201D [34] Frank Rich of the NYT states that "The McCain campaign%u2019s claims of a %u201Cfull vetting process%u201D for Palin were as much a lie as the biographical details they%u2019ve invented for her." [48] "Mayor Sarah Palin behaves like a petulant, spoiled teenager," according to a Wasilla flower shop owner. [50] Republican Commentators Overheard Discussing Palin pick as "cynical" and "gimmicky" and saying that "It's Over." Also stating, "The most qualified? No!" [79] Former NYC Mayor Ed Koch, who endorsed George Bush in 2004, said that Sarah Palin "scares the hell out of me" and is backing Obama. [65] Alaskan Republican Senator Lyda Green said, "It's been very difficult to work with her. I wish there had been more vetting." [67] John McCain said during the Republican primaries of Romney and Giuliani, "I am prepared. I need no on-the-job training. I wasn't a mayor for a short period of time. I wasn't a governor for a short period of time." [80] %u201CHer governing style raises a lot of hard questions,%u201D said University of Alaska history professor Steve Haycox. [57] Wasilla colleague Ms. Chase said that Sarah "scares the bejeebers out of me.%u201D [57] Over 140,000 women of all ages and backgrounds have posted comments on why they are against Sarah Palin as a VP nomineee. [66] Dan Fagan, conservative talk show host: "No politician is so popular and charismatic that they should be above accountability and telling the truth. Not even Sarah Palin." [75] %u201CMy cringe reflex is exhausted,%u201D said conservative columnist Kathleen Parker after watching her interview with Katie Couric. [102] Palin's expectations for the debate are so low that a McCain aide said, %u201CJoe Biden is going to have to destroy her for it to be perceived as a victory for him.%u201D [102] Howard Kurtz writes that leading up to the vice-presidential debate, "some journalists say privately they are censoring their comments about Palin to avoid looking like they're piling on" [103] [103] Joe Scarborough of MSNBC television and a former Republican Congressman, said Palin "just seems to be out of her league" on national issues. [104] Rich Lowry, editor of the conservative National Review magazine, called her interview with Couric "dreadful" and warned that "she risks damaging her political brand forevermore." [104] Bob Herbert, NY Times columnist writes that "the idea that the voters might install someone in the VP%u2019s office who is too unprepared or too intellectually insecure to appear on, say, %u201CMeet the Press%u201D or %u201CFace the Nation%u201D is mind-boggling." [106] Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone writes that "the scariest thing about John McCain's running mate isn't how unqualified she is -- it's what her candidacy says about America." [107] David Frum, former speech writer for President Bush, says, %u201CI think she has pretty thoroughly %u2014 and probably irretrievably %u2014 proven that she is not up to the job of being president of the United States.%u201D [108] Rebecca Traister of Salon writes that "sympathy with Palin is a disservice to every woman who has ever been unfairly dismissed based on her gender, because this is an utterly fair dismissal, based on an utter lack of ability and readiness." [109] CNN's Cafferty, on viewing Palin's analysis of the bail-out, called it "one of the most pathetic pieces of tape I have ever seen from someone aspiring to one of the highest offices in this country." [111] Conservative columist Kathleen Parker wrote that %u201CPalin%u2019s recent interviews all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out of Her League.%u201D [102] Conservative columnist Kathleen Parker says that "only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn." [102] Michelle Goldberg of the Nation writes that "the religious right can be confident that they'd have a fundamentalist in the White House with Sarah Palin. " [112] Robin Morgan, author and co-founder of the Women's Media Center: "McCain%u2019s pick of Palin demonstrates contempt for American women and insults the intelligence of anyone who supported Hillary, since Palin is her (melting) polar opposite." [114] Patricia Williams, Columbia professor and columnist for the Nation wrote "Palin is a never-ending train wreck of ignorance, inconsistency, outright contradiction and sneering." [116]
15. Miscellaneous & Minor Negatives on Sarah Palin. This is a list of things we consider minor, trivial or not pertinent towards being a VP. But since this is an 'ultimate list', we are going to include everything we can find no matter how small. Who knows? Some small things could become big. As mayor, Palin raised locals taxes while giving breaks to large companies [1] [44] Sarah's husband, Todd, got a DUI in 1986. [30] Palin opposes Stem Cell Research [81] Palin cut funding for a transitional home for teen moms in Alaska with a line item veto. [87] Sarah's RNC Speech specifically cited a quote from a very controversial and hateful conservative, Westbrook Pegler. [88] Palin told Gibson: "Yes. I didn't blink then even when asked to run as his running mate". However she later told Hannity that "she asked her girls to vote on it, and they're like absolutely, let's do this mom." So which version is it? A Director for African American Juneteenth Events in Alaska said that Palin was the first governor not to attend or send a congratulatory letter. She never even responded. [82] Juneteenth Director wrote, "While meeting with Black leaders concerning the absence of any African Americans on her staff, Gov. Palin responded that she doesn't have to hire any Blacks and was not intending to hire any." [82] Palin went beyond standard practice and embellished an annual proclamation for a Christian Heritage Week in Alaska calling on "all citizens to celebrate this week" and distorting quotes of historical figures in America's history. [84] According to the NYT, "Lawmakers in April [of 2008] accused her of improperly culling thousands of e-mail addresses from a state database for a mass mailing to rally support for a policy initiative." [57] Palin ignored Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich's attempts to have the state deliver promised money needed to operate city traffic lights until he threatened to go public out of anger. [57] "The governor did have a tanning bed put in the Governor's Mansion. It was done shortly after she took office [in early 2007] and moved into the mansion," said Roger Wetherell from Alaska's Department of Transportation and Public Facilities
16. Sarah Palin Political Cartoons This is a list of good Anti Sarah Palin Political Cartoons we have found which show her many negatives and why she is unfit to be Vice President. Palin Vetting Process Screening Sarah Palin McCain and Beauty Queen Hurricane Vetting Palin Bashes the Media Bridge to Nowhere Palin Supporters McCain Speechwriters on Palin Will They Buy It?
17. Critical Sarah Palin Blogs and Websites This is a list of blogs, websites or pages which are critical of Sarah Palin The Sarah Palin Portal Women Against Sarah Palin Sarah Palin Truth Squad
18. Critical Blog Posts and Articles on Sarah Palin. This is a list of the best news articles and blog posts on Sarah Palin that we have found and consider must reads. Sarah Palin's Wasteful Ways (Salon.com - 9/17/08) Once Elected, Palin Hired Friends and Lashed Foes (NYT - 9/13/08) As Mayor of Wasilla, Palin Cut Own Duties, Left Trail of Bad Blood (Wash Post - 9/14/08) Wasillan Anne Kilkenny's Letter on Sarah Palin Buzz up! (11) Categories: US Elections People: Sarah Palin ShareThis List Views: 10350 List Sources
[1] Article: A Wasillan On Sarah Palin - The Atlantic, Tuesday, September 02, 2008 [2]Article: About Sarah Palin: an e-mail from Wasilla - Cross Cut, September 02, 2008
[3]Article: Palin's pork requests confound reformer image - Yahoo (AP), Sept 02, 2008
[4]Article: Palin unqualified to serve as vice president - Fairbanks News, Aug 29, 2008
[5]Article: Palin’s Start in Alaska: Not Politics as Usual – N.Y. Times, Sept 02, 2008
[6]Article: Is Palin a reformer and fiscal conservative? - The Liberty Papers, Friday, August 29, 2008
[7]Article: Another Controversy for Sarah Palin - ABC News, September 03, 2008
[8]Article: Dems armed with Palin opposition - Politico, Friday, August 29, 2008 [9]Article: Palin's Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview - Huffington Post, Tuesday, Sept 02, 2008
[10]Article: GOP Alaska State Senator: Palin Not Prepared to be Governor...Vice President - Huffington Post, Sat, August 30, 2008
[11]Article: Palin questioned whether global warming is melting Arctic sea ice - Yahoo News (McClatchy), August 29, 2008
[12]Article: A Bad Year for Feminism - Blackprof.com, Sunday, August 31, 2008 [13]Article: Sarah Palin: What exactly does the VP do everyday? - Huffington Post, August 29, 2008
[14]Article: Palin's swift rise wins both admirers, enemies - Seattle Times, Monday, September 01, 2008
[15]Article: Palin On Abortion: I'd Oppose Even If My Own Daughter Was Raped - Huffington Post, Monday, September 01, 2008
[16]Video: Karl Rove on CBS's "Face The Nation" Criticizes Palin's Experience as VP - Sunday, August 10, 2008
[17]Article: Palin's husband was member of third party - AP, September 02, 2008
[18]Article: Sarah Palin’s Refueling Stop in Ireland: Was It a Visit? - WSJ, Sept 03, 2008
[19]Article: Sarah Palin on faith, life and creation - Boston.com, Friday, August 29, 2008 [20]Video: Pat Buchanan says Sarah Palin Supported Him in 1996 - August 29, 2008 [21]Video: Daily Show Episode 9/3/2008 - Karl Rove, Bill O'Reilly & Sarah Palin - Wednesday, September 03, 2008
[22]Article: Alaskan greens say McCain's VP pick has anti-environmental record - Grist.org, Sunday, August 31, 2008
[23]Article: Former Alaskan governors question TransCanada plan - Anchorage Daily News, Friday, July 11, 2008
[24]Article: End in sight on lawsuit over sports center land - Anchorage Daily News, Friday, July 25, 2008
[25]Article: McCain was against Palin before he was for her - Huffington Post, Wednesday, September 03, 2008
[26]Link: Citizens Against Government Waste - Thursday, September 04, 2008 [27]Article: Palin's trouble with the police - OpEd News, Monday, September 01, 2008 [28]Article: Protecting polar bears gets in way of drilling for oil, says governor - Times Online, Friday, May 23, 2008
[29]Article: Palin in comparison - Gristmill, Saturday, August 23, 2008
[30]Article: Report: Todd Palin DUI Charge in '86 - US Magazine, Sept 01, 2008
[31]Article: Palin's stopover - Politico, Tuesday, September 02, 2008
[32]Article: Palin Scrubbing Turns Up an Undeclared Car Wash - Washington Post, Tuesday, Sept 02, 2008
[33]Article: FOX News Pundits Overlook Sarah Palin%u2019s Lies While Praising Her Speech To The Hilt - Newshounds, Thursday, September 04, 2008
[34]Article: Attacks, praise stretch truth at GOP convention - Yahoo News, Sep 03, 2008
[35]Image: McCain and Beauty Queen - Thursday, September 04, 2008
[36]Image: Palin Vetting Process - Thursday, September 04, 2008
[37]Image: Screening Sarah Palin - Thursday, September 04, 2008
[38]Image: Hurricane Vetting - Thursday, September 04, 2008
[39]Image: Palin Bashes the Media - Thursday, September 04, 2008
[40]Image: Bridge to Nowhere - Friday, September 05, 2008
[41]Image: Palin Supporters - Friday, September 05, 2008
[42]Image: McCain Speechwriters on Palin - Friday, September 05, 2008
[43]Image: Will They Buy It? - Friday, September 05, 2008
[44]Article: Documents detail Palin's political life - Politico, September 03, 2008
[45]Article: Palin's Stall - Anchorage Daily News, Friday, September 05, 2008
[46]Link: Taxpayers for Common Sense - Friday, September 05, 2008
[47]Article: Palin's Church Promotes Converting Gays - Huffington Post, Sept 06, 2008
[48]Article: Palin and McCain%u2019s Shotgun Marriage – N.Y. Times, Sept 06, 2008
[49]Article: Palin switched colleges 6 times in 6 years - AP, September 04, 2008 [50]Article: Sarah Palin had turbulent first year as mayor of Alaska town, Sept 07, 2008
[51]Article: Palin staff pushed to have trooper fired - Anchorage News, Aug 14, 2008
[52]Article: Palin's Small Alaska Town Secured Big Federal Funds – Wash. Post, 9/2/08
[53]Article: Sarah Palin will be missing in action Sunday morning - L.A. Times, 9/6/08
[54]Article: Palin Billed State for Nights Spent at Home - Washington Post, 9/8/08
[55]Article: Palin's claim of selling state jet on eBay revealed as a lie - Belfast Telegraph, Monday, September 08, 2008
[56]Article: Palin makes her first gaffe - Huffington Post, Monday, September 08, 2008 [57]Article: In Office, Palin Hired Friends and Hit Critics - New York Times, 9/13/08
[58]Article: Palin Pipeline--"Privatize the Profit; Socialize the Cost" - Democracy for New Hampshire, Monday, September 08, 2008
[59]Article: As Mayor of Wasilla, Palin Cut Own Duties, Left Trail of Bad Blood - Washington Post, Sunday, September 14, 2008
[60]Article: Palin Links Iraq to Sept. 11 In Talk to Troops in Alaska - Washington Post, Friday, September 12, 2008
[61]Article: New Evidence: Sarah Palin Had Direct Role in Charging Rape Victims for Exams - Huffington Post, Thursday, September 11, 2008
[62]Article: Governor's Plane Wasn't Sold on Ebay - Washington Post, Saturday, September 06, 2008
[63]Article: Palin says Alaska supplies 20 percent of U.S. energy. Not true. Not even close. - Fact Check, Friday, September 12, 2008
[64]Article: Sarah Palin, The Bush Doctrine, and Why It's Smart to be Dumb - Huffington Post, Thursday, September 11, 2008
[65]Article: Koch: Palin 'Scares the Hell Out of Me' - Washington Post 9/9/08
[66]Link: Women Against Sarah Palin - Tuesday, September 16, 2008
[67]Article: Sarah Palin: Political Opponent Recalls Being Ridiculed - US Magazine, Tuesday, September 02, 2008
[68]Article: Palin Tells Debunked Teleprompter Tale - Wall Street Journal, 9/15/08
[69]Article: Raw Data: Palin Interview with ABC News - Fox News, Thursday 9/11/08
[70]Article: Two 'Bridges to Nowhere' Tumble Down in Congress – N.Y. Times 11/17/05
[71]Article: Palin's responses on radio talk show very unbecoming - Anchorage Daily News, Sunday, January 27, 2008
[72]Article: Palin, McCain's VP Pick, Short on Green Cred - The Daily Green, Friday, August 29, 2008
[73]Article: War with Russia? Palin Talks Foreign Policy with ABC - Washington Post, 9/11/08
[74]Article: Sarah Palin's wasteful ways - Salon.com, Wednesday, September 17, 2008 [75]Article: No one is above the truth, even Palin - Anchorage Daily News, 9/16/08
[76]Article: Aerial Wolf Gunning 101 - Slate, Tuesday, September 02, 2008
[77]Article: Palin cuts money for energy research - News Miner, May 29, 2008
[78]Article: America is Built on the Contributions of Community Organizers - CivilRights.org, Thursday, September 04, 2008
[79]Article: Noonan, Murphy trash Palin on hot mike: 'It's over' - Politico, 9/3/08
[80]Article: McCain Pre Palin: Mayors and Governors Can't Handle National Security - Huffington Post, Friday, September 12, 2008
[81]Article: Palin: wrong woman, wrong message - L.A. Times, Sept 04, 2008
[82]Article: A Few Facts About Sarah Palin - ThomHartmann.com, September 16, 2008
[83]Article: Lazy Days as Commander-in-Chef: Palin never fired chef, only worked part-time - Talking Points Memo, Sunday, September 07, 2008
[84]Article: "No Non-Christian Heritage Week - Beliefnet, Friday, August 29, 2008 [85]Article: Palin and the Mastery of Illusion - Philly.com, Thursday, September 04, 2008 [86]Article: Palin on Pledge of Allegiance: "If it was good enough for the founding fathers it was good... - Huffington Post, Monday, September 01, 2008
[87]Article: Palin Slashed Funding for Teen Moms - Washington Post, Sept 02, 2008
[88]Article: Palin Quoted Anti-Semite in Convention Speech - Huffington Post, 9/10/08
[89]Article: Election 2008: Sarah Palin on Energy and the Environment - About.com, 9/1/08
[90]Article: Fiorina: Palin doesn't have experience to run a major company. - Huffington 9/16/08
[91]Link: The Sarah Palin Portal - Friday, September 19, 2008
[92]Link: Sarah Palin Truth Squad - Saturday, September 20, 2008
[93]Video: Palin's Nonsensical Answer on Domestic Energy - Sept18, 2008
[94]Article: VP Debate Rules Changed to Compensate Sarah Palin - Newsvine, 9/20/08
[95]Article: Palin Accepted $25,000 in Gifts, Alaska Records Show – Wash. Post, Sept 26, 2008
[96]Article: Palin Talks Russia with Katie Couric (Video)- Huffington Post, Sept 25, 2008
[97]Article: Palin is Ready? Please. - Newsweek - Fareed Zakaria, September 27, 2008
[98]Article: Palin Claimed Dinosauers and People Coexisted - Huffington Post, 9/28/08
[99]Article: AP Investigation: Palin got zoning aid, gifts - Seattle Times, Sept 28, 2008
[100]Article: McCain camp prays for Palin wedding - Times Online, Sept 28, 2008
[101]Article: Next Up: Biden and Palin - CNN, Saturday, Sept 27, 2008 [102]Article: Kathleen Parker: After Interviews Palin Should Bow Out - Huffington Post, 9/26/08
[103]Article: Kurtz: Journos Checking Their Tongues on Palin... - Huffington Post, Monday, September 29, 2008
[104]Article: Palin still excites GOP but her luster dims a bit - USA Today, 9/29/08
[105]Article: Palin gets an introduction to foreign policy - L. A. Times, Sept 24, 2008
[106]Article: Palin%u2019s Words Raise Red Flags - New York Times, 9/26/08
[107]Article: Mad Dog Palin - AlterNet, Saturday, September 27, 2008
[108]Article: Concerns About Palin’s Readiness is a Big Test Nears – N.Y. Times, 9/30/08
[109]Article: The Sarah Palin pity party - Salon.com, Tuesday, September 30, 2008 [110]Article: Palin, a Journalism Major, Can't Name a News Source That She Reads - Huffington Post, Tuesday, September 30, 2008
[111]Article: Jack Cafferty: "If Sarah Palin Being One Heartbeat Away Doesn't Scare the Hell Out of You,... - Huffington Post, Friday, September 26, 2008
[112]Article: Sarah Palin, 21st Century Theorcrat - AlterNet, Monday, Sept 29, 2008
[113]Article: Palin Had Another Private E-Mail Account, Company Says - Washington Post, Wednesday, October 01, 2008
[114]Article: When Sisterhood Is Suicide and Other Late Night Thoughts by Robin Morgan - The Women's Media Center, Wednesday, October 01, 2008
[115]Article: Palin's Tax Return Mystery: Where are the Per Diems? - Huffington Post, Friday, October 03, 2008
[116]Article: Gee, I wish we'd end our love affair with this folksy liability.

Posted by: wizard | October 9, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

American's do everything you can to insure that your votes are counted. That includes taking legal action if necessary! Anyone that does anything unconstitional to effect the electorial process should be jailed! Let's not have a repeat of election 2000!

Posted by: jack of all | October 9, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse


Save America - and the world said:

"I am voting for Obama because I believe

1) That people deserve access to health care.

2) That war is to be avoided until every reasonable alternative has failed (thank God no preemptive strikes have been launched against the US. And shame on us for such tactics)

3) I believe that intelligence is a good measure of an informed and capable leader. Not the only requirement but a key factor.

4) I am more afraid of leaders who support racism than those who believe in acceptance. (If the City of Chicago, including the mayor can accept Bill Ayers for who he is today, then why is it wrong for Obama to have worked in a Republican financed organization with the man, doing charitable work?)" among more than I have time to correct.

Well, Obama wants you to fund health care for all, illegals and all... More TAX. Not to mention both candidates support health care...
You don't care for war (who dose?) and you say you are ashamed of your country for keeping preemptive strikes on the table. Well, I guess your head was struck in the sand, or somewhere else dark with no oxygen, during the preemptive strikes that occurred 9/11/2001?

Then you say you don't support the teachings of Obama's 20+ years of "AMEN!" while sitting in the pew of Rev. Wright, you know, racism, anti-America hate speech! You even suggest that Bill Ayers is somehow reformed? Really! He praise the attacks of 9/11, oh yea, you weren't here for that! Not to mention his posing for a photo standing on an American Flag...

Pull your head out and get some O2! You will be very surprised when you figure out what is really going on here!

Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Patrick in Sarasota - This nutjob is all over the web. Over on USAtoday he has been advocating for the assassination of "liberal" politician's and blathering on and on about gun rights. This turkey, this racist little scumbag, cannot chew gum and walk at the same time. The Secret Service should know about him and track him down and lock him up. And, if this moron is a hi-tech executive, I'll eat my hat. He is a **PAID** RNC blogger.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Now this is beautiful. The abject panic is reaching such unprecedented levels that they're just rapid-firing every nonsensical lie they can come up with. I'm hearing stuff these clowns abandoned back in May.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

OK . . . I'm a registered Republican, but I've had it with the indifference of this party to the working poor and disappearing Middle Class. BUT . . .instead of hurling insults back and forth why not check out FactCheck.org. They are non-partisan and call all the candidates out when they make "errors" in their rhetoric. All of them have been inaccurate at some point . . . but jeesh, if you have a score card . . . it looks to me like McCain and Palin are taking the lead in dishonesty.

And if Ayers is still a terrorist and a threat to this county, then why is he not in Gitmo? And do you check the detailed history of everybody you've had coffee with? Ayer's activities happened long long ago.

Now back to the economy. There is more than enough blame for everybody . . . but when we take this bad situation, then we add McCains ideas for health care . . .

What McCain has failed to mention is that his plan only offer $2500 for single Americans and a whopping $5,000 for a family. Welcome again, the federal penalty for having kids. I have a family of five. If it's $2500 for an individual, shouldn't my family have five times that? $12,500? Which is still a few thousand under what my my benefits are cost my employer. Just try to find family coverage for $5,000 a year. It is not possible. AND that will go directly to the insurance company. AND you get that if you buy your own. If you have employer provided benefits, YOU DON'T GET IT. Instead you get to have your current health benefits taxed. At my tax rate, for me that means about $3500 in new taxes a year.

McCain can go stuff it. Leave my health care alone!

Posted by: Scorcher | October 9, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

Billw and Cryos,

You guys are supporting the political team that is composed of non-college educated everyday people.

You had your chance for 8 years to take the wealth and prosperity from Clinton, and you blew it.

Now you are upset because your team is losing. Maybe McCain should have spent more time learning economics instead of hiring lobbyists. That is his fault.

You can go down with the republican titanic, that is very brave of you. But understand this, most everyone else on your team has already left ship. You candidate is behind by 100 electoral votes and needs to win 10 states that are on the edge for Obama.

You can cry and complain, and call me stupid, but I know that you are just sour because you are losing.

If you do not understand why Obama is winning, try looking at the policies.

McCain and Obama are like night and day when it comes to:

Energy
Healthcare
Taxes
Budget
international politics

I am voting for Obama because he will lower my taxes, let my family have affordable healthcare, help lower education costs, reduce the national budget, increase jobs, fund renewable energy, hold CEO and corporations at fault, and be diplomatic to the world.

I feel that McCain's plans will not accomplish any of this. In fact, I have trouible understand any of McCain's plans because he would rather talk about stuff I could care less about then tell me how he is going to help me.

So if you only care about name calling, then put your "Prom queen" crown back on and vote for McCain.

If you care about substance, plans, and a budget that will help America instead of hinder it, vote Obama.

(I doubt either of you can say anything positive about McCain. Please, I DARE you to prove me wrong. I hope that you read this, and it makes you upset because you know that I am right, and you know nothing about the policies of these two candidates.)

So please, respond to this comment with "Obama has **** as a friend", "Obama is a ****", or "Tim is a ****" and prove to me that I am right about you two knowing nothing about the things that matter, the POLICIES.

QED

Posted by: TIM | October 9, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

@ Average American, How can Obama be anti-american, be palling around with people who preach hate. Did you not forget Obama is half white, he grew up with a white mother, white grandparents, went to white schools and a white college. He didn't grow up with his father who is black. How can Obama be in thing other than American; like you he grew up White. Look at the bigots and ex KKK members McCain pals around with.

Posted by: Angela | October 9, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Hello Anonymous, remember your statement?

NObama said "Call me if you need me".

Thats' not leading. He is not a leader.
There's arrogance in him too.

Obama only states the obvious about the state of the economy and makes promises that he does not even realize are impossible to bring to reality.

Obama's career is theatrics. He does not know much except how to speak eloquently between his studders and "ahs".

Posted by: Anonymous | September 24, 2008 5:50 PM

FLIP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP-LOL

Posted by: fedupwithdems | October 9, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: chrystyna.. from Sarisota is bashing education! Being a professional student makes one ill-equiped for real life issues?.."

You need to read ALL the words in a post to arrive at an intelligent response.

First, try spelling Sarasota correctly

Second, it may hurt your feelings but sooner or later you have got to come out of the closet of continuous education and...

GET A JOB!

Third, i have rejected dozens of job application in my business from those with fancy degrees.

Most new college grads are just paper pushers who can take a test.

These programmers couldn't write software to save their soles and have demonstrated remedial skills in communication and zero understanding of the business they are to automate.

Not to say that a degree doesn't hurt. But the best programmers I have ever met are self taught!

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota
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Patrick, looks like you could use a bit of education yourself.

i should be I
application should be applications
soles should be souls

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

The reason why we're in this current situation is because people are hard headed and that they fear change. It's about time we give the other party a chance to prove themselves. Besides, Obama/Biden is a much better ticket. It's also obvious that McCain supporters really hate Obama. That's because they're also hard headed and angry like the person they want as the President of US. This country deserves better. VOTE: OBAMA/BIDEN & stop listening to these idiots supporting McCain.

Posted by: NoMobama Haters | October 9, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

As an Independent, I believe both parties are full of excrement. That said, I noticed a post by "Angela" which said the Democrats have controlled both Houses for the last six years" Wrong, the Democrats have only controlled the House for two years and have never controlled the Senate. Everyone says they have control, but unless you have sixty votes, you don't control anything. So what your basically saying is to lie the blame of 9/11, the Housing Bubble, The Economic Recession,
which it is, and is there anything else? Why don't we blame the Democrats for George W Bush, you can say the black Democrats in Florida were purged from the list by Katherine Harris on purpose. They gave Bush the election as some elaborate scheme. Listen sweetheart, the Republicans were in charge of Congress from 1992-2004. They and whatever Democrat toadies supported them are responsible for all of this! They should be stripped of thier offices, benefits, and fortunes, all made on our expense paid in the loss of personal freedom, history making debt, bitter venomous backward politics, and a general decline in our Country. Hoot and holler to the heavens that McCain is not different form 2000. I voted for John McCain in the Republican Primary in 2000. He lost, now he has consigned the character he once had to be remade in the image of George W Bush. Nothing is so sad as a man who will trade truth for position, integrity for wealth, and honor for power. I do not like Barack Obama, I find his positions on the Surveillance Act to be weak and against privacy, I think he is not as tough as McCain, or nearly as experienced. However, George Bush had just as much inexperience. A point the Republicans decried as slander in 2000. So let us cut to the quick. Vote without emotion, religion, and culture in mind. I don't say race, because scientifically there is only one, the Human race, and posts to the contrary show evolutions unfair dispersal of intelligence. So vote for the smarter, better, candidate. Your children have a nearly 11 trillion dollar debt left by G.W.B. act accordingly.

Posted by: Publius | October 9, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Billw and Cryos,

You guys are supporting the political team that is composed of non-college educated everyday people.

You had your chance for 8 years to take the wealth and prosperity from Clinton, and you blew it.

Now you are upset because your team is losing. Maybe McCain should have spent more time learning economics instead of hiring lobbyists. That is his fault.

You can go down with the republican titanic, that is very brave of you. But understand this, most everyone else on your team has already left ship. You candidate is behind by 100 electoral votes and needs to win 10 states that are on the edge for Obama.

You can cry and complain, and call me stupid, but I know that you are just sour because you are losing.

If you do not understand why Obama is winning, try looking at the policies.

McCain and Obama are like night and day when it comes to:

Energy
Healthcare
Taxes
Budget
international politics

I am voting for Obama because he will lower my taxes, let my family have affordable healthcare, help lower education costs, reduce the national budget, increase jobs, fund renewable energy, hold CEO and corporations at fault, and be diplomatic to the world.

I feel that McCain's plans will not accomplish any of this. In fact, I have trouible understand any of McCain's plans because he would rather talk about stuff I could care less about then tell me how he is going to help me.

So if you only care about name calling, then put your "Prom queen" crown back on and vote for McCain.

If you care about substance, plans, and a budget that will help America instead of hinder it, vote Obama.

(I doubt either of you can say anything positive about McCain. Please, I DARE you to prove me wrong. I hope that you read this, and it makes you upset because you know that I am right, and you know nothing about the policies of these two candidates.)

So please, respond to this comment with "Obama has **** as a friend", "Obama is a ****", or "Tim is a ****" and prove to me that I am right about you two knowing nothing about the things that matter, the POLICIES.

QED

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

"Today, it is deemed un-American to BE a democrat!"

No it is deemed unamerican to be a SOCIALIST. Socialism represents one of the main philosophies the founding fathers intended on preventing in america.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

@Average American, just because McCain servied the the military does not make him quailified to run the country. We don't the same ole' politics we have had for hundreds of years. Even if Obama was Asian i would vote for him, because he represents something diffrent from what is country has always seen. (Hate to play race here)But the white man has run this country for years, some good, some bad. But the last 8 years has been hell for most. McCain shouldn't be President because he is old, but because he represents old ways of thinking. Sometimes the one with the less experience, has a fresher eye on things. Also, take a look at how other countries view Obama they love him. 250,000 came out in Russia to see him. Even those who are in other countries knows OBAMA will be the next President. Stop being a Hater.

Posted by: Angela | October 9, 2008 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Why are McCain and Palin so stupid to continue the same old tired personal insinuations and attacks about Obama’s alleged links to terrorists? Most Americans see it for what it is, the Republican Party is loosing with McCain’s and Palin’s lack of specifics for the real issues affecting our nation. If guilty by association was a crime, McCain should be in jail for life. If Palin’s repetitive comments keep on going much longer we all are going to wish for “that one” to win right now and spare us all the non-sense of wasting time on election day. Palin and Cindy McCain sure sound like parrots on Prozac.

Posted by: Eddie Zalez | October 9, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

"I was just thinking about this last night, perhaps the debate would have been a lot more productive if Brokaw had just kept the discussions to 5 minutes, maybe, 2 or 3, instead of 1, and let people people ask whatever questions they wanted, and indeed, let the candidates ask questions of each other."

McCain wanted to have 10 debates like this but Obama the empty suit cowered in the corner and begged for it all to go away.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

The most basic fact is this: Obama is unqualified for the Presidency on every front. Additionally, Obama has spent 20+ years saying "Amen!" to anti-American, racial hate-speech from his Spiritual Advisor Mr. Wright! This is probably why Obama saw nothing wrong with palling around with anti-American terrorist Mr. Ayers who let's not for get, was so close to Obama that he organized fund a raiser for him! That alone demonstrates the fact that Ayers felt that he and Obama shared common views!

Oh yea, don't forget this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEWCnpNnBQ

On the other hand, there is McCain. A true war hero of iconic proportions! He is uniquely positioned in this election to offer the only relevant experience available to the Presidency in the decision to be made in November.

Why the media power brokers want Obama so badly is a question indeed.

Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I am voting for Obama because I believe

1) That people deserve access to health care.

2) That war is to be avoided until every reasonable alternative has failed (thank God no preemptive strikes have been launched against the US. And shame on us for such tactics)

3) I believe that intelligence is a good measure of an informed and capable leader. Not the only requirement but a key factor.

4) I am more afraid of leaders who support racism than those who believe in acceptance. (If the City of Chicago, including the mayor can accept Bill Ayers for who he is today, then why is it wrong for Obama to have worked in a Republican financed organization with the man, doing charitable work?)

5) I see every reason to doubt John McCain's integrity, reason, and word. Like Jo Biden, I choose not to question McCain's motivation (yeah, Joe!), yet I do question his leadership qualities.

6) A presidential ticket is a team. On Obama's team I see a man who has a long history of conscience driven decisions, who is liked by Republicans and Democrats, who speaks from his heart and who, like Obama is intelligent and informed. On McCain's ticket I see a woman with very little political experience and even more dangerously, the experience she does have has taught her that distorting, mud slinging, prissing around and oh goshin folks is how to win. That is her limited experience and it does not fit in the second or the highest position in our nation, as the last eight years clearly shows. She is uninformed, a racist, an alarmist, actually inciting folks to dastardly thoughts and behavior that she should be held accountable for.

7) While the original concepts of the Republican Party were pretty close to the ideals I believe in, over the years, those values have become twisted and corrupted. Today, it is deemed un-American to BE a democrat! How absurd is that? Behind all these party doctrines its just us people. We all want the same thing, our children to be healthy and happy and GOOD people. I honestly do not understand why so many people vote for a party whose doctrine is to take from most of us to keep a few very rich.

8) Altho I hear folks saying that they fear Obama will take our fine country in the direction of Socialism, I wonder what they are so afraid of here. Barack Obama is a man who has always worked within the system. Who wants this country to be the greatest it can be. To be that which he grew up believing it was. Just like I did. Helpful to others in the world. A leader. A country of GOOD people. What exactly is socialist about his doctrine? Affordable medical care?

This fear of government being involved is crazy. I have seen some terrifying setbacks in recent years. Now manufacturers are considered capable of policing their own pollution. No one has to tell us what the ingredients are in cleaning products. Medicines are allowed to be marketed without proper testing. And without government would we have any education system at all? Any standards? Any interstate highways? Any great military to fight those wars which the Bush and McCain Followers love? On the other hand, giving the President ultimate power - that is preferable to letting the government regulate certain things, including lending corporations? I think not.

There is so little really getting out there about what is actually going on. I worry that too many will fall for the ugly scare tactics and vote for the real terrorists.

But what I worry most about is that our very votes will not be enough against the corruption that is all too evident. What can be done to assure this election is fair? I grew up reading of corrupt elections and I believed that only happened elsewhere. My children did not grow up believing that. Will their children grow up? How can we assure that? By making sure this election actually (unlike McCain) represents the people.

There is alarming evidence of software already designed which can roll any state's votes to 49/51 percent in favor of a given candidate. And what is more frightening is that this software can self destruct while running so that any investigation will find nothing. Further, while interfacing with individual voting computers, it can change their votes so that with no paper trail, we have no way of ever knowing. What is being done about this? Where did I hear of it? In an interview of the man who designed it at the request of a Republican Congresswoman. Here is the link to similar information:

http://www.elitestv.com/pub/2004/Dec/EEN41b5f8f70cbf8.html

Despite this fear, I believe we must do what we can. We must vote our hearts. Listen to the two candidates. Which one sounds like he would lead fairly and reasonably?

Thank you.

Posted by: Save America - and the world | October 9, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Whats the matter Patrick in Sarasota? Did it surprise you that I was able to find your name and employer using nothing but what you posted here? Does the thought of your clients seeing this vitriolic hatred and prejudice scare you? Good. Don't worry though, I'm not going to do anything with that info. Other than make sure my company never does any sort of business with anything you are involved in.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"Hopefully Abraham Lincoln was wrong when he said "To win the election, impress the ignorant."

Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:52 PM"

Lol that statement holds a lot of truth.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

The only reason McCain wants to be president is that was never able to reach the same rank as his grandfather and father in the navy. Becoming president will make him the commander in chief, higher rank than either one of them achieved.

Posted by: McCains Ego | October 9, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

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Hopefully Abraham Lincoln was wrong when he said "To win the election, impress the ignorant."

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I was just thinking about this last night, perhaps the debate would have been a lot more productive if Brokaw had just kept the discussions to 5 minutes, maybe, 2 or 3, instead of 1, and let people people ask whatever questions they wanted, and indeed, let the candidates ask questions of each other.

What would they ask each other? You have to wonder. What *would* have been some good questions to ask them? I would ask both of them, "tell us about the first 6 months of your presidency". I would most-certainly ask McCain, "how much did you ahe to drink the day that you decided to pick Palin as your VP? Would even *you* want her to become President?" You have to ask that question of a 72 year old candidate for president who chooses a 42 year old woman with no foreign-policy experience at all, as his VP pick. Was it to make himself look good, or was it really what he thought was in the countrys' best-interests if something were to happen to him? And the Democrats, likewise need to chime-up and say what they would do if McCain was elected and then he died and Palin became President. Would they seriously, credibly stand by and watch that woman take over the White House and Executive Branch?

Anyway I think that there have to be a lot of really-good questions out there to ask these two and the real tragedy is for the press to sit back and just parrot what they say and comment on it. We alreayd know what they have to say, that they would *choose* to say. Let's ask them some questions that hopefully will elicit answers that are new and thought-provoking...on topics of true importance. Don't tell us why we should not vote for your opponent. Tell us why we should vote for you. By giving examples, not a self-assessed character-summary. That doesn't tell us anything substantial, except maybe in your refusal to get off that horse and ride a better one. But the press is as responsible for this as they are, they are just regurgitating what the candidates say when what they say is, literally, nothing more than political vomit.
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Guess McCain saw the video of that witch doctor praying over and laying hands on Sarah Palin to exorcise her witches from her. Then he met Sarah Palin, saw that the good witch doctor failed and saw Sarah the witch and decided to choose her as his runningmate so she could help him out with his lies, deceit, and slandering of Senator Obama. He knew she was not fit to be vice president but he NEEDED her nastiness, hypocricy, and witchines to smear the good senator from Illinois. Being the evil character that McCain has proven to be, he knew he was too old to go it alone...so, put Sarah Palin out there to do a good part of his dirty work.

Posted by: NinaK | October 9, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Hmmm I'm not sure since I don't unquestioningly believe what the media tells me; I have an analytical brain capable of making sound judgements. Some of us are more than tape recorders who listen and repeat.

I'll ask you the same thing on November 5th when the democrats are bringing the elections to court because they can't fathom with the MSM in their pocket, outspending by hundreds of millions of dollars and having ACORN register so many fake voters how Obama could have lost.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

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Cyros:
"Some people just don't have very good critical thinking and analytical skills."

Tim is an example of the logic of many Obama supporters. Too bad.

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I was supporter of Republican party until 2002, when its true nature was revealed by Bush/Cheney mismanagement infested with lies and hypocrisy.

PRESIDENT OBAMA is the best thing that can happen for USA. OBAMA is inspiring, compassionate for the middle class, and makes thoughtful and meaningful decisions. This could be the best opportunity for USA and the world in general.

McCain has become more unpredictable and power hungry for the top position (me first). Sara Palin's pick highlighted this nature. She is an absolute joke and has no clue what the VP position entails. The sense of losing has driven both to desperate measures of gutter politics. It will be a sad day for our country if these two wins by luck.


Posted by: greg3 | October 9, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

McCain is desperate and pathetic! I can't see him running the country if it's anything like how he's running his campaign. And Palin, well she'll rot in hell.....or is that Alaska? She can become president of Alaska when her husband succeeds in seceding from the good old USA! Eh?

Posted by: jack of all | October 9, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

How does if feel to be on the losing team Cryos?

Posted by: Tim | October 9, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

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Cyros:
"But Tim if you do this there will be no one left to vote for Obama."

Timmothy has apparently left the building....

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Nate says:

"Vote to better America, Vote against amoral Liberal agendas, Vote for McCain/Palin, but most of all VOTE!, it's about the only right the government hasn't taken away yet!"

You must mean the BUSH government?

But, yeah, they said the same thing about the last Democratic President, Bill Clinton. I have to admit, thinking back. His two terms in office were pretty hard to take. Stock market up 300%. 22 million new jobs. The gov't budget in surplus and we were starting to pay off the debt accumulated by Reagan and papa Bush. The poor guy only ended up with a 70% approval rating despite being railroaded into impeachment by a Republican Congress who went on to lose seats in the midterm as that cute trick blew up in their faces.

No, Clinton was nowhere near the President that Bush is, who Nate voted for TWICE. The guy with a 24% approval rating that is still plummeting. Who is now hiding out in the Whitehouse, while everyone in the country Democrat and Republican alike is just waiting for him to LEAVE! Why can't people appreciate the fact that he got us into two wars that have been going on for six years with no sign of ending, and whose economic laissez-faire philosophy has produced the biggest economic disaster since the Great Depression?

Folks, if, like Nate, you believe the Republicans deserve a third consecutive Whitehouse term, then you might as well give them the Presidency permanently, just make it a dictatorship, because there is evidently NOTHING they can do to earn being voted out of office! They can do absolutely everything wrong for eight years, but nope - doesn't matter.

Posted by: orrg1 | October 9, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

"That you tim?

Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:40 PM"

Most likely. I've seen other people's names be used to post stupid things when he's been active on the thread.

I don't blame him. He just can't win arguments on things like logic or reason so has to feel better about it by imitating other people. Some people just don't have very good critical thinking and analytical skills.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain wants the presidency so badly (his third try at it) that he and his ignorant sidekick Palin have stooped so low and make such vicious attacks at Obama. The majority of Americans can see through McCain's falsity. McCain should have more pride in himself at the very least. He should not want to win at any cost, even to the detriment of the American people.

Posted by: IFeelSorryForMcCain | October 9, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"That you tim?"

Not me, I can out debate you without having to lie about your associations.

Posted by: Tim | October 9, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Nate said:
"Obama follows the leftist liberal line of big government, anti-gun, anti-God, anti-capitalism, and socialized everything. You know the government does such a good job lets have it run our lives too. Then we can pretend we are happy just like the people crushed under Lenin's feet.


Vote to better America, Vote against amoral Liberal agendas, Vote for McCain/Palin, but most of all VOTE!, it's about the only right the government hasn't taken away yet!"

LISTEN TO THIS, HE IS RIGHT!!!!


Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

"So, for everyone out there who is sure that Obama is a terrorist, please die in a car fire.

The earth has a plan for "only the strong survive" and we humans are making it too easy for idiots to stay alive. I say we take warning lables off things and let the idiots out there kill themselves."

But Tim if you do this there will be no one left to vote for Obama.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Anyone remember a movie called The Manchurian Candidate? Replace Sinatra and the Chinese with McCain and Vietnam. How is this one going to end?

Posted by: cgb | October 9, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Patrick,

I don't know what to think of your jibber-jabber. Go out and shoot yourself some varments for supper...

and I'll go out to dinner with some intelligent folks who know how to have a proper conversation and make clear, concise, thought out points.


Awww...we will have such a chuckle when I tell them this story... :)

Posted by: chrystyna | October 9, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Rudy in '12!!

Posted by: NYC | October 9, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse


THIS WAS NOT ME POSTING

I will defend Billy Ayers to the end of the Earth!!! He's so cool! I wish he were on Barry's cabinet.
Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:36 PM

That you tim?

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Well said, (not the failed bush polices under mccain again) a little long, but well said.

Posted by: Angela | October 9, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

No comments from McCain supporters... I can't imagine why anyone would think there is a media bias! It used to be that all articles tried to tell both sides of the the story. Now we can count on the press to tell us WHAT to believe. That takes a load off my mind. Good thing freedom of the press is not a hot button issue for the Democrats!

Posted by: huhmmm31 | October 9, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I like cochs up my ais. Oh, and little bpy butt-o's. GOP!

McCain/Palin

Posted by: Jake D | October 9, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

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Tim:
"That is why I am voting for Obama, and that is why 60% of America is voting for Obama."

"Why does Obama's history of association with and/or support from a terrorist, crook, racist, and anti-American not bother you?

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Lucy2008 you're first!

Posted by: libssuckkcock | October 9, 2008 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"I stand by my comment. Most white guys in America are trained by the media, their parents, the schools, etc. to crave having a black friend. Television now has at least one dumb white guy and one genius black guy in every show/commercial/movie, etc. They are literally brain-washing white kids to have negative self-esteem while at the same time trying to make it seem that having a black friend is the pinnacle of social success for a white guy. Dats da Truth."

People are trained to do alot of things. Intellegence is what sets you apart from the idiots that right comments like this one. I had racism in my family for years, but I understand that the color of my skin does not dictate the intellegence in my brain, so I refused to beleive in racism.

Of course, many people, as proven by these comments, are TOO STUPID to get over themselves and be open to new ideas.

So, for everyone out there who is sure that Obama is a terrorist, please die in a car fire.

The earth has a plan for "only the strong survive" and we humans are making it too easy for idiots to stay alive. I say we take warning lables off things and let the idiots out there kill themselves.

Posted by: Tim | October 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I was just watching CNN and they were showing McCain at the town hall meeting and they were these ignorant rednecks shouting " we want to know more about Ayers!". I dont understand, do this people have any brain and go to "fact check.com" maybe they can get themself educated to find out who Bill Ayers is or maybe they rather like to hear from McCain spewing s##t out of his mouth

Posted by: j | October 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Was this conversation ever not completely insane? Stop and take a look at the ridiculous things you're writing.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

"Thank you, RAL. The entire world KNOWS McCain will NOT reach across the isle. He proved this by referring to Senator Obama, his fellow senator, as "that one" and REFUSED to shake Senator Obama's hand when he (Obama) extended his hand to McCain after the debate."

Lol keep ignoring reality and believe what you want to believe. Based on voting records and bill sponsorship McCain is much more bipartisan. Just ignore this link and keep posting ignorance though I don't expect any different.

washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/15/records-show-mccain-more-bipartisan/

If Obama called me a cranky, old, senile racist I wouldn't want much to do with him either.

Posted by: Cryos | October 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Many of these posts are anti-Obama and filled with such bold-faced lies, misrepresentation and prejudice. I'm thankful that blogs are just a small part of our population.

It is a great thing to have a democracy where we can vote for our leaders and representatives. However, the 2-party system has become so polarizing. This is the worst that I have seen it. Our system is over 200yrs old and hasn't adjusted. Whereas, other democracies use a parliamentary approach. Here, parties beside our 2 are ineffectual and without power. Our 2 party system must be kept healthy to keep our democracy healthy. The process needs to encourage thought, debate, and creative solutions. It needs to encourage coalitions that work together for common good.

When people like this post call Democrats, "socialists", "traitors", "communists" we have really lost our way. The Republican party (my family voted for Lincoln) is not the party of Lincoln. Over the years it has morphed into a right wing party that has shades of a nationalist party with it's turbo charged self-righteous religious posturing, race-baiting, "evil empire" baiting, "terrorist/socialist" baiting. This should be called the American Nationalist Party. The Democratic party, today, has moved to the center and there isn't any "big" party that represents what these posts keep ranting about. These posts are fearmongering and I suspect many don't even know what they are actually writing about and what it means.

Posted by: lucy2008 | October 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

My friends! my Freinds!

Country first!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i5T301aAWg

Posted by: Friends of Mccain | October 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama 51% and McCain 41%. I'm really glad to see that 51% people in the country are intelligent and educated to pick the right guy for the presidency.

Posted by: Impartalreporter | October 9, 2008 2:32 PM

what's IMPARTAL? is like a 51% intelligent new word???

Posted by: fedupwithdems | October 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I will defend Billy Ayers to the end of the Earth!!! He's so cool! I wish he were on Barry's cabinet.

Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Angela,

"Would a terriorist be able to be a professor of a college", well, yea! Bill Ayers, duh!!!

You should take the time to realize the world and our role in it as America. We are at war, remember all that biz that started with 9/11? A two front war on terror! We can't afford an inexperienced person who has only one attribute, that of oration! We must have a demonstrated bi-partisanship record who can make independent decisions, not just be a party puppet!

"We can't make CHANGE with someone who has never stood up to the system".

Vote McCain/Palin

Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Change... you can collect it on the street corner after you're all jobless.

Posted by: Barry HUSSEIN Nobama | October 9, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

.
TO TIM

Billw said:
"Ayers said as late as around 9/11 that he felt the terrorists had not done enough."

Tim replied:
"You are Worthless LIAR."

Fairly typical Obama supporter stupid response. My statement is true. This was on CBS just yesterday:
"Ayers wrote a 2001 memoir claiming credit for bombing the Pentagon. He posed for that famous photograph trampling the American flag. He said that he had not done enough during his terrorist days to force America out of Vietnam. He told the New York Times that the patriotic outburst of national unity after the 9/11 attacks made him “want to puke.” "
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/08/opinion/main4510426.shtml

.

Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Did you read about Obama's plane smelling like dead fish?

Posted by: Impartalreporter | October 9, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Britney Spears | October 9, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama 51% and McCain 41%. I'm really glad to see that 51% people in the country are intelligent and educated to pick the right guy for the presidency.

Posted by: Impartalreporter | October 9, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

I wonder, what Britney Spears thinks....:)

Posted by: fedupwithdems | October 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

We should round up all you book reading liberals and put you all on a train. Then we should cart you all to a camp where we will gas your aises, then grind you up, and feed you to the young libs we will keep as slaves. Palin will be the sword that smites the wicked and brings about real change to America.

You think we are kidding.

We will win the war to come! you betcha!

Posted by: libssuckcock | October 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Tom is a moron.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Patrick,

You got me. I did make a spelling error. Please go back and read what you have written and you will see I'm not the only one making errors...

Anywho...

POSTED BY PATRICK IN SARASOTA:

"And you STILL WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE!

How many mirrors around the house do you have?

Being a profession student means you are ill equipped to handle the real world.

Try starting and maintaining a business!

Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard because it was "slowing him down"."

So what part do you think I missed??? You said, "Being a professional (oh, you forgot the 'l' there buddy)student makes you ill-equipped to handle the real world".

You said that!

Oh, and I have a job. I went to college and then got a job. Am I f-ing crazy?

Not everyone owns their own business. Some people work for companies. Some people don't work at all. Some people go to school and get educations. Some people don't.

I still don't quite get your point...

Posted by: chrystyna | October 9, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

None of you have any clue what the future will bring - nor do I. What we think is obvious now will be painfully wrong in 10 years, but we'll go on telling ourselves we were right all along.

So here's my prediction - no president can make up for the way we've been slowly and painfully screwed by the fraud that's been going on in New York and Washington for the last two decades. Start learning a trade.

Posted by: juan | October 9, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Heroin yes... crack no.

Posted by: Carlaclaws (the real one) | October 9, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Carlaclaws wrote:

"Tom wrote: "

Every white guy voting for Obama is doing it because of one thing only:

White guys have been trained like a puppies since their youth to crave having a Black Friend.

Anyone who thinks Obama is getting the votes of white guys for any other reason is dumb.

Anyone White Guy who doesn't realize he is voting for Obama for that reason only is a very well trained puppy dog.

Woof! Woof! Woof!"

Oh! My! God!

Tom, who trained you? I can recommend better trainers. It's not too late."

I stand by my comment. Most white guys in America are trained by the media, their parents, the schools, etc. to crave having a black friend. Television now has at least one dumb white guy and one genius black guy in every show/commercial/movie, etc. They are literally brain-washing white kids to have negative self-esteem while at the same time trying to make it seem that having a black friend is the pinnacle of social success for a white guy. Dats da Truth.

Posted by: Tom | October 9, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I was just curious Mr. Pat G*a*t, if I was in need of some retail marketing for my fort, would you be interested in the job?

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Everybody better buy some stock in purple velvet... you just KNOW the white house is gonna get a makeover!

Posted by: quaggi | October 9, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

in a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
This time the stakes are much higher then most people could imagine
I would like to point out some things You may already know with a new perspective.
I follow a economist named bob proctor who has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
He perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown ,and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
Is terrifying. He thinks it could get worse then the great depression.
Banks in the US are going under one after the other. Country wide the largest morgage bank in the world
Bear Stearns and Lehman brothers , and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms.
And now Fanny and Freddy which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States.
The goverment took them over because they are essentially bankrupt.
If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash
And we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before
The future of these companies will fall into the hands of our next president
And all of our economic future depends on them reorganizing these companies right.
Lehman, Merill Lynch, and Bear Sterns have survived for over 150 years and survived even the great depression
They are important because the are the biggest engines of growth in america and
they are connected to almost everything.
The last time the real estate market numbers looked this bad was during
The great depression and real estate often leads the way into major economic recessions.
One out of 10 Americans is somewhere in the foreclosure process.
During the last 8 years the average person saw there salary drop instead
Of increase. These are all facts no one will argue with.
The truth is we are only in the start of the worst economy we have seen in our generation
and a very real possibility of another depression.
Bush just like Mcain doesn't understand the economy.
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it
He does not understand exactly what is broken. Its no surprise that he doesnt. The people that make up these
securities use complex math models very few people understand.
They are basically bundles of thousand of loans some good and some bad that are then given rules based on quantitiative
math. It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this, and the same things bush and mcain have done for the last 8 years
Have not worked so far and wont work in the future.
If you do what you have always done then you will do get what you have always __________
90 percent of the time they have voted the same.
Please don't just take my word for it Start to read up on some of this yourself. MSN money, elliot wave and, bloomberg
Have tons of articles That prove we are in the heading into one of the worst economies any one has ever seen.
So why are the polls even close then ?
The chairman of mcains campaign recently said that people don't vote on issues
they vote on a personality composite which means. He is trying to sell personality instead
of results.
He believes people will vote against there own self interests.
Lets teach him we are smarter then that and elect the ticket that can
bring us back from the brink of a economic abyss.
If you think i am kidding do your own home work you will find
We are at the start of this mess not the end.
Mcain admits in the year 2008 he cannot use a computer even to send email
Its almost impossible then he will understand the complex securities such as cdos that are destroying wall street
and the home values on your street.
We are not bulletproof america it time to wake up and hold these people accountable.
How many people that you go out and have drinks with would you really want running the country?
Lets stand up and fight for our country now while it will still make a difference
Lets elect Obama Biden 08
Mccain straight out lied in his convention speech when he said that he would lower taxes for the common man while Obama would raise the taxes. Yes! Obama will raise taxes but not for the common man but for the wealthiest top 5% of the American people in which Mccain is included. And by the way political analysts agree that Obama's tax policy is more beneficial for the common man because he is going to decrease taxes for 95% of Americans which has to include the common man because a common man is not 5% of the American population.
!!!!!!!The Truth is Mccain lies and deceives voters like in his convention speech where he presented the incomplete truth about his policies.!!!!!1
By the Way Grant was also a military hero who won because of his character. And his term was full of corruption. Why?
it is because he had no clue about wat the common man experiences just like MCcain and Palin. Well for all of u who claim that Obama is too young and inexperienced and young to be president. Guess wat? Mccain is too old to be president and fighting as a soldier is different from commanding a whole country's army and handling the economy (which does not only depend on the fundamentals (workers) but on the policies of the president for investors to invest in a crashing economy)and Palin is the worst possible VP candidate because she has no foreign policy experience which is needed in diplomatic relationships with other nations which the VP is responsible for. And being incharge of the Alaskan National Guard which had no crisis to face is not a qualification to be 2nd to commander in chief.
Obama on the other hand is willing to go against issues because of his minimal exposure to the corruption in washington.
For example, he opposed the War in Iraq which mccain supported just because the oil prices would go up leading to more profits for people like Bush and others in washington who own an oil drilling facility.
Mccain is just like Bush who deceived the public and charged into the War in Iraq (very similar to Vietnam war which had no reason but destroyed that country). Mccain lied to the public in his convention speech on his and Obama's tax policy for the common man.
And Bidden is a very good choice for VP because the VP is supposed to be the invisible leader of the Senate and maintain diplomatic relationships with foreign countries( Bidden was in the senate in charge of Foreign policy)
i say Mccain would be a good VP candidate because of his foriegn policy experience and long time in the Senate but asking him to be president is going too far. Having good character does not mean he is right on policies ( especially regarding the economy and the common man).
Go Obama and Bidden the better qualified ticket for the Presidency and the VP.
1. If there was a video of a BLACK Pastor praying on Obama to protect him from Witchcraft, what would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over.
2. If Obama paraded a pregnant teenaged daughter with her BLACK lover on stage at the Democratic National Convention. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
3. If Obama had chosen Sarah Palin if she were a democrat, and then everything happened showing her gross deficiencies.What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
4. If Obama was a part of Keating 5. What would happen?Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
5. If Obama had committed adultery and then divorced his crippled wife who stood by him while he was a POW and married a rich adultering heiress, now has 9 homes and 13 cars. What would happen?Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
6. If Obama had been running the swift boat adds and politics like McCain with outright 100% lies disproved by factcheckdot org. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
7. If Obama had made 1/4 of the gaffes and lies that Mccain has made including the fundamentals of our economy are good. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
8. If Obama's daughter went on National tv and said that Obama dated a stripper and was wild in his younger years. If Obama was anywhere close to McCains moral failings in his life. What would happen? Answer: Obama's presidential bid would be over
9. If Obama had verbally abused and berated the media for bias and sexism the way Mccain and Palin have done. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
10. If Obama had removed his VP from scrutiny by the press and did exactly what Macain did with Palin. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
11. If Obama has been anywhere close to Mccain in the conduct of his campaign. What would happen?Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
I could go on and on.. but my point is... the hypocrisy of the republicans and so many in this country is on such a low shamefull and painfull level that I cannot find an adjective to describe it appropriately. These people have ZERO objectivity and ZERO conscience... Obama is held to a much higher standard because of ONE reason only... the color of his skin.. you racists out there reading this and screaming... know this point and remember it always...
"who God blesses NO MAN CAN CURSE" I hope Obama wins for the sake of this country... The republicans are praying and hoping that the idiots and uneducated racists and bigots will return them to power... Their support is critical and so the only way to appeal to hate is to manufacture lies and innuendo, reapeat it enough times that the "heartland" would vote "white". Sad, because 4 more years of Bush won't help them anymore than the last 8 years have... Am just soo tired of all the hate and racism I read on these sites... people pretending to debate facts when instead they are debating their hate, racism and biggotry... all because they cannot stand the thought of a man with black skin in the white house... never mind the way this country has gone down the crapper and the fact that the two women who raised Obama are as white as them... There is only one choice in this election, anyone with common sense knows Obama is that choice... but then... reading the posts above... common sense is NOT so common... oh well.. God help us.

Posted by: change and hope | October 9, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Needless to say, the two preceding comments were NOT mine. How about if we "keep our handles to ourselves?" This kind of thing could deteriorate even worse than most online forums if I sank to your level.

P.S. I have never smoked crack in my life.

Posted by: Carlaclaws (the real one) | October 9, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Angela | October 9, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

When McCain fell for the soccer mom - that was the END. He did it to HIMSELF. She is not what I think of when thinking 'America First'.
Why is that OLD MEN always want to think they are charming and sexy and brilliant ?
Obama and this crew will bring a lot more to the table than McCain and his.
Sad, but true.

Posted by: quaggi | October 9, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

"..Posted by: That Guy chrystyna, I assure you it isn't just Patrick. Spend enough time arguing with the Christian Right and.."

This may be a shocker for you professional students but:

Many Republicans do not go to church. I haven't been to one since 1968 when I was 7. Save for a few weddings.

On being intellectual? Do you know what it means? Can "you" carry on multiple threads of thought at the same time?

Outside of "your" interests and biases?

Like a good chess match...can you play white as well as black then switch sides in mid game....and still win?

Can your argue, persuasively, both sides of the debate.

That is "real" intelligence. Try it sometime.

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

In this age of Ethics and internet communications, it is be impossible to hide the truth about anything. Nothing can be hidden from anyone, we are all exposed to our own deceptions, character flaws and bad judgement.

More and more I'm afraid to admit as things spinout of control that we have lost the ability to command our destiny
as a nation and the best we can hope for is to find some one that will bring back the New Deal policies of President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

I hope that common sense and honesty could still be the currency that saves this country, bring back the happy days!

Posted by: Sirmanicuz | October 9, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Obama is from Indonesia... therefore he is not eligible to be president.

Posted by: Tim | October 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I would like to say, some of these comments are crazy to the point of needing a straight jacket. How in the world could you possbily think Obama would change this country into a Dictatorship or anything other than what it is. All you have to do is look at history. When the Democrats are in office, their are jobs and surplus of money. When the Republicans are in office we are either at war and or; we are seriouly in debt. When had the republicans ever been for middle class and poor. There job is to keep the rich, rich and the poor, poor. If you notice McCain/Palin don't talk about what they are going to do for the people. Can't give real examples of there poistion. They are getting away from the issues by trying to tie Obama to terriorist. Would a terriorist be able to be a professor of a college, win man of year. Get real people, McCain/Palin all smoke and mirrors. Obama/Biden

Posted by: Angela | October 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I had thought in the Dem primary that Obama as the clear choice, digging deaper into his past only turns up things that don't pass the smell test. In fact too many considering the time he's been in office, McCain doesn't have that amount of dirt and he's served our country for many times longer.

McCain maybe old, Palin may not yet be fully qualified but I think McCain's character/integrity hands down beats Obama by miles.

As far as the crisis goes in the financial sector, don't forget the Dems controlled both houses for the last six years!

Posted by: bobbin | October 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain's Vice President is Sarah Palin.

Sarah Palin is a distant cousin of Princess Diana.

Princess Diana was part of the English monarchy!

Therefore, McCain wants to overturn the revolutionary war and make us all British!

(That is how the people who talk about Wright and Ayers sound to me)

Posted by: Tim | October 9, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Now Obama... there's a guy that knows what he's talking about... SOCIALISM BABY! Bring it!

Posted by: Jason | October 9, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

in a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
This time the stakes are much higher then most people could imagine
I would like to point out some things You may already know with a new perspective.
I follow a economist named bob proctor who has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
He perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown ,and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
Is terrifying. He thinks it could get worse then the great depression.
Banks in the US are going under one after the other. Country wide the largest morgage bank in the world
Bear Stearns and Lehman brothers , and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms.
And now Fanny and Freddy which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States.
The goverment took them over because they are essentially bankrupt.
If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash
And we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before
The future of these companies will fall into the hands of our next president
And all of our economic future depends on them reorganizing these companies right.
Lehman, Merill Lynch, and Bear Sterns have survived for over 150 years and survived even the great depression
They are important because the are the biggest engines of growth in america and
they are connected to almost everything.
The last time the real estate market numbers looked this bad was during
The great depression and real estate often leads the way into major economic recessions.
One out of 10 Americans is somewhere in the foreclosure process.
During the last 8 years the average person saw there salary drop instead
Of increase. These are all facts no one will argue with.
The truth is we are only in the start of the worst economy we have seen in our generation
and a very real possibility of another depression.
Bush just like Mcain doesn't understand the economy.
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it
He does not understand exactly what is broken. Its no surprise that he doesnt. The people that make up these
securities use complex math models very few people understand.
They are basically bundles of thousand of loans some good and some bad that are then given rules based on quantitiative
math. It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this, and the same things bush and mcain have done for the last 8 years
Have not worked so far and wont work in the future.
If you do what you have always done then you will do get what you have always __________
90 percent of the time they have voted the same.
Please don't just take my word for it Start to read up on some of this yourself. MSN money, elliot wave and, bloomberg
Have tons of articles That prove we are in the heading into one of the worst economies any one has ever seen.
So why are the polls even close then ?
The chairman of mcains campaign recently said that people don't vote on issues
they vote on a personality composite which means. He is trying to sell personality instead
of results.
He believes people will vote against there own self interests.
Lets teach him we are smarter then that and elect the ticket that can
bring us back from the brink of a economic abyss.
If you think i am kidding do your own home work you will find
We are at the start of this mess not the end.
Mcain admits in the year 2008 he cannot use a computer even to send email
Its almost impossible then he will understand the complex securities such as cdos that are destroying wall street
and the home values on your street.
We are not bulletproof america it time to wake up and hold these people accountable.
How many people that you go out and have drinks with would you really want running the country?
Lets stand up and fight for our country now while it will still make a difference
Lets elect Obama Biden 08
Mccain straight out lied in his convention speech when he said that he would lower taxes for the common man while Obama would raise the taxes. Yes! Obama will raise taxes but not for the common man but for the wealthiest top 5% of the American people in which Mccain is included. And by the way political analysts agree that Obama's tax policy is more beneficial for the common man because he is going to decrease taxes for 95% of Americans which has to include the common man because a common man is not 5% of the American population.
!!!!!!!The Truth is Mccain lies and deceives voters like in his convention speech where he presented the incomplete truth about his policies.!!!!!1
By the Way Grant was also a military hero who won because of his character. And his term was full of corruption. Why?
it is because he had no clue about wat the common man experiences just like MCcain and Palin. Well for all of u who claim that Obama is too young and inexperienced and young to be president. Guess wat? Mccain is too old to be president and fighting as a soldier is different from commanding a whole country's army and handling the economy (which does not only depend on the fundamentals (workers) but on the policies of the president for investors to invest in a crashing economy)and Palin is the worst possible VP candidate because she has no foreign policy experience which is needed in diplomatic relationships with other nations which the VP is responsible for. And being incharge of the Alaskan National Guard which had no crisis to face is not a qualification to be 2nd to commander in chief.
Obama on the other hand is willing to go against issues because of his minimal exposure to the corruption in washington.
For example, he opposed the War in Iraq which mccain supported just because the oil prices would go up leading to more profits for people like Bush and others in washington who own an oil drilling facility.
Mccain is just like Bush who deceived the public and charged into the War in Iraq (very similar to Vietnam war which had no reason but destroyed that country). Mccain lied to the public in his convention speech on his and Obama's tax policy for the common man.
And Bidden is a very good choice for VP because the VP is supposed to be the invisible leader of the Senate and maintain diplomatic relationships with foreign countries( Bidden was in the senate in charge of Foreign policy)
i say Mccain would be a good VP candidate because of his foriegn policy experience and long time in the Senate but asking him to be president is going too far. Having good character does not mean he is right on policies ( especially regarding the economy and the common man).
Go Obama and Bidden the better qualified ticket for the Presidency and the VP.
1. If there was a video of a BLACK Pastor praying on Obama to protect him from Witchcraft, what would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over.
2. If Obama paraded a pregnant teenaged daughter with her BLACK lover on stage at the Democratic National Convention. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
3. If Obama had chosen Sarah Palin if she were a democrat, and then everything happened showing her gross deficiencies.What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
4. If Obama was a part of Keating 5. What would happen?Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
5. If Obama had committed adultery and then divorced his crippled wife who stood by him while he was a POW and married a rich adultering heiress, now has 9 homes and 13 cars. What would happen?Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
6. If Obama had been running the swift boat adds and politics like McCain with outright 100% lies disproved by factcheckdot org. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
7. If Obama had made 1/4 of the gaffes and lies that Mccain has made including the fundamentals of our economy are good. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
8. If Obama's daughter went on National tv and said that Obama dated a stripper and was wild in his younger years. If Obama was anywhere close to McCains moral failings in his life. What would happen? Answer: Obama's presidential bid would be over
9. If Obama had verbally abused and berated the media for bias and sexism the way Mccain and Palin have done. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
10. If Obama had removed his VP from scrutiny by the press and did exactly what Macain did with Palin. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
11. If Obama has been anywhere close to Mccain in the conduct of his campaign. What would happen?Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
I could go on and on.. but my point is... the hypocrisy of the republicans and so many in this country is on such a low shamefull and painfull level that I cannot find an adjective to describe it appropriately. These people have ZERO objectivity and ZERO conscience... Obama is held to a much higher standard because of ONE reason only... the color of his skin.. you racists out there reading this and screaming... know this point and remember it always...
"who God blesses NO MAN CAN CURSE" I hope Obama wins for the sake of this country... The republicans are praying and hoping that the idiots and uneducated racists and bigots will return them to power... Their support is critical and so the only way to appeal to hate is to manufacture lies and innuendo, reapeat it enough times that the "heartland" would vote "white". Sad, because 4 more years of Bush won't help them anymore than the last 8 years have... Am just soo tired of all the hate and racism I read on these sites... people pretending to debate facts when instead they are debating their hate, racism and biggotry... all because they cannot stand the thought of a man with black skin in the white house... never mind the way this country has gone down the crapper and the fact that the two women who raised Obama are as white as them... There is only one choice in this election, anyone with common sense knows Obama is that choice... but then... reading the posts above... common sense is NOT so common... oh well.. God help us.

Posted by: not the failed bush policies under mccain again | October 9, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

It is amazing to me how people can even consider voting for a candidate like Obama, he has never taken any political risks, he only votes for things that will make his poll numbers go up, and his message has about as much substance as a balloon full of air. But the national news media (including liberal news organizations like: CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, The New York Times, The Washington Post, etc.) have built this hopeless half-wit up, and throw roses at his feet, and rolled out the red carpet.

All of this for a wolf in sheep's clothing, a false hope whose only change is going to be his stance on the issues once he gets elected, God forbid that would happen. If he gets elected I fear that this county may become even more socialist, and maybe lose the light of democracy altogether.

Obama follows the leftist liberal line of big government, anti-gun, anti-God, anti-capitalism, and socialized everything. You know the government does such a good job lets have it run our lives too. Then we can pretend we are happy just like the people crushed under Lenin's feet.


Vote to better America, Vote against amoral Liberal agendas, Vote for McCain/Palin, but most of all VOTE!, it's about the only right the government hasn't taken away yet!

Posted by: Nate | October 9, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

KEEP B.O. OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE! We can't have them stinking it up like they did that poor plane!

Posted by: Carlaclaws | October 9, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

The problem with McCain is that he has no idea what he is talking about on virtually every issue. He thinks that 'greed' and 'deregulation' caused the housing bubble but he is willing to hand out money that we don't have to the stupid people who made the mistakes. He knows a lot about foreign policy, but what he knows so well is a failed approach.

The sad thing is that Obama is equally appalling to picture as president. All the zombiefied "Change" talk and the double time march toward socialism. He is just McCain light. He thinks we should send trillions of dollars overseas, and provide 'free' healthcare when the government is essentially as insolvent as the banks are. All they can do is inflate the currency supply which will put us all in the poorhouse and prolong the problem.

Screw them both, I'm voting none of the above. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results. The dempublican parties are just two arms of the same machine.

Posted by: Jason | October 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Granted, I did smoke crack with him on weekends, but still...

Posted by: Carlaclaws | October 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

How about some underage boys?

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Barry, I too once consorted with a criminal. He was my boss. He fired me.

Later, it turns out, he had complained to colleagues because I pressed for adherence to our company's rules regarding receiving inventory. He was eventually convicted of embezzlement.

Am I "guilty as charged" for consorting with criminals?

Posted by: Carlaclaws | October 9, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I looked around on The Economist's web site and found where they have organized an Electoral Collage vote which allows the world to vote as well as Americans in the pending election. The reporting countries of the world are all for Obama, France, Russia, China...

You see, the world is ready for change and they know that the Dems and their insulting choice for a candidate (Palin has more Executive Branch experience than their whole ticket!) is the best chance for their desired change. What change is this you might ask? The world would like us (the U.S.), step aside, to no longer be the driving force in the world economy, or the last remaining super power...

There is no wonder why the world is certain that B. Hussein O. is their best shot, just look what the Dems have done to our national economy since they took control of congress with Pelosi and her mission. They were handed a healthy economy and have only acted to crash it as fast as they can. Of course we all know that hard economic times tend to favor the Dems in the ballot, and I'm sure this was a well calculated and prescribed current state of economy key to the overall Democratic strategy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related

Yes this is an unbelievable assertion, I agree, and it never ceases to amaze me the lows and hardships the Dems would have the country undergo just to meet their agenda. After all, just look at who they picked for their Presidential candidate! Some one born out of corruption, with no experience doing ANYTHING other than following party directions better than anyone else. Yea, B. Hussein O. has around 175 days of on the hill time, yea, he's ready to be the leader of the free world...

Obama's America

B. Hussein O. will disengage our enemies over seas, leaving them unmolested (think Clinton strategy), allowing them to execute their next complex attack on our soil. Which will go something like this: With the cut in military capacity and the U.S. withdrawal from forward operating posts, Israel will stand alone. The victorious Muslims will rally in their success, further funding groups such as Hamas, Iran’s surrogate. Iran’s unmolested nuclear weapons program will provide a suicide suit-case nuke via Hamas. This "suit-case nuke" will come across the southern U.S. border (which has by then been completely opened up so the constituency of the Dems can migrate freely to cast their newly gained right to vote in U.S. elections). The target, the energy infrastructure of the U.S., Houston, Texas to be specific. The initial attacks (9/11) proved the resilience of our great country’s financial sector, however, recent events (results of a Democrat Congress) have revealed to the world our venerability in the energy sector. But have no fear, we won't know it's coming until it hits us! We will all be standing in some government funded line to provide for us what we should be providing for ourselves but are unable because we have all been taxed out of work to pay for these lines we are in. Now that's a future to vote for!

I agree, no one is perfect, however, between McCain and B. Hussein O. it takes a real head in the sand approach to go with the racist Obama with his 20 year history of saying "AMEN" to anti-American raciest hate speech.

Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I think McCain is the decrepit, psychotic grandpa we all crave to have.

MCCAIN = DECREPIT, PSYCHOTIC BADASS GRANDPA

VOTE MCCAIN!

Posted by: juan | October 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

at a time when having the first african american nominee and the first republican female VV nominee we were seeing the best of america

now sadly because of john mccain we are seeing the worst of america.

he can no longer say country first it is pretty obvious that it is mccain first

there is a saying that if you live long enough you might become the thing you despise. mccain has become what he said he despised in 2000

we could have shown the world the beauty of our system but mccain has show the ugly american.

Posted by: politics1 | October 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

in a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
This time the stakes are much higher then most people could imagine
I would like to point out some things You may already know with a new perspective.
I follow a economist named bob proctor who has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
He perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown ,and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
Is terrifying. He thinks it could get worse then the great depression.
Banks in the US are going under one after the other. Country wide the largest morgage bank in the world
Bear Stearns and Lehman brothers , and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms.
And now Fanny and Freddy which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States.
The goverment took them over because they are essentially bankrupt.
If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash
And we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before
The future of these companies will fall into the hands of our next president
And all of our economic future depends on them reorganizing these companies right.
Lehman, Merill Lynch, and Bear Sterns have survived for over 150 years and survived even the great depression
They are important because the are the biggest engines of growth in america and
they are connected to almost everything.
The last time the real estate market numbers looked this bad was during
The great depression and real estate often leads the way into major economic recessions.
One out of 10 Americans is somewhere in the foreclosure process.
During the last 8 years the average person saw there salary drop instead
Of increase. These are all facts no one will argue with.
The truth is we are only in the start of the worst economy we have seen in our generation
and a very real possibility of another depression.
Bush just like Mcain doesn't understand the economy.
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it
He does not understand exactly what is broken. Its no surprise that he doesnt. The people that make up these
securities use complex math models very few people understand.
They are basically bundles of thousand of loans some good and some bad that are then given rules based on quantitiative
math. It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this, and the same things bush and mcain have done for the last 8 years
Have not worked so far and wont work in the future.
If you do what you have always done then you will do get what you have always __________
90 percent of the time they have voted the same.
Please don't just take my word for it Start to read up on some of this yourself. MSN money, elliot wave and, bloomberg
Have tons of articles That prove we are in the heading into one of the worst economies any one has ever seen.
So why are the polls even close then ?
The chairman of mcains campaign recently said that people don't vote on issues
they vote on a personality composite which means. He is trying to sell personality instead
of results.
He believes people will vote against there own self interests.
Lets teach him we are smarter then that and elect the ticket that can
bring us back from the brink of a economic abyss.
If you think i am kidding do your own home work you will find
We are at the start of this mess not the end.
Mcain admits in the year 2008 he cannot use a computer even to send email
Its almost impossible then he will understand the complex securities such as cdos that are destroying wall street
and the home values on your street.
We are not bulletproof america it time to wake up and hold these people accountable.
How many people that you go out and have drinks with would you really want running the country?
Lets stand up and fight for our country now while it will still make a difference
Lets elect Obama Biden 08
Mccain straight out lied in his convention speech when he said that he would lower taxes for the common man while Obama would raise the taxes. Yes! Obama will raise taxes but not for the common man but for the wealthiest top 5% of the American people in which Mccain is included. And by the way political analysts agree that Obama's tax policy is more beneficial for the common man because he is going to decrease taxes for 95% of Americans which has to include the common man because a common man is not 5% of the American population.
!!!!!!!The Truth is Mccain lies and deceives voters like in his convention speech where he presented the incomplete truth about his policies.!!!!!1
By the Way Grant was also a military hero who won because of his character. And his term was full of corruption. Why?
it is because he had no clue about wat the common man experiences just like MCcain and Palin. Well for all of u who claim that Obama is too young and inexperienced and young to be president. Guess wat? Mccain is too old to be president and fighting as a soldier is different from commanding a whole country's army and handling the economy (which does not only depend on the fundamentals (workers) but on the policies of the president for investors to invest in a crashing economy)and Palin is the worst possible VP candidate because she has no foreign policy experience which is needed in diplomatic relationships with other nations which the VP is responsible for. And being incharge of the Alaskan National Guard which had no crisis to face is not a qualification to be 2nd to commander in chief.
Obama on the other hand is willing to go against issues because of his minimal exposure to the corruption in washington.
For example, he opposed the War in Iraq which mccain supported just because the oil prices would go up leading to more profits for people like Bush and others in washington who own an oil drilling facility.
Mccain is just like Bush who deceived the public and charged into the War in Iraq (very similar to Vietnam war which had no reason but destroyed that country). Mccain lied to the public in his convention speech on his and Obama's tax policy for the common man.
And Bidden is a very good choice for VP because the VP is supposed to be the invisible leader of the Senate and maintain diplomatic relationships with foreign countries( Bidden was in the senate in charge of Foreign policy)
i say Mccain would be a good VP candidate because of his foriegn policy experience and long time in the Senate but asking him to be president is going too far. Having good character does not mean he is right on policies ( especially regarding the economy and the common man).
Go Obama and Bidden the better qualified ticket for the Presidency and the VP.
1. If there was a video of a BLACK Pastor praying on Obama to protect him from Witchcraft, what would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over.
2. If Obama paraded a pregnant teenaged daughter with her BLACK lover on stage at the Democratic National Convention. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
3. If Obama had chosen Sarah Palin if she were a democrat, and then everything happened showing her gross deficiencies.What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
4. If Obama was a part of Keating 5. What would happen?Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
5. If Obama had committed adultery and then divorced his crippled wife who stood by him while he was a POW and married a rich adultering heiress, now has 9 homes and 13 cars. What would happen?Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
6. If Obama had been running the swift boat adds and politics like McCain with outright 100% lies disproved by factcheckdot org. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
7. If Obama had made 1/4 of the gaffes and lies that Mccain has made including the fundamentals of our economy are good. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
8. If Obama's daughter went on National tv and said that Obama dated a stripper and was wild in his younger years. If Obama was anywhere close to McCains moral failings in his life. What would happen? Answer: Obama's presidential bid would be over
9. If Obama had verbally abused and berated the media for bias and sexism the way Mccain and Palin have done. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
10. If Obama had removed his VP from scrutiny by the press and did exactly what Macain did with Palin. What would happen? Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
11. If Obama has been anywhere close to Mccain in the conduct of his campaign. What would happen?Answer:Obama's presidential bid would be over
I could go on and on.. but my point is... the hypocrisy of the republicans and so many in this country is on such a low shamefull and painfull level that I cannot find an adjective to describe it appropriately. These people have ZERO objectivity and ZERO conscience... Obama is held to a much higher standard because of ONE reason only... the color of his skin.. you racists out there reading this and screaming... know this point and remember it always...
"who God blesses NO MAN CAN CURSE" I hope Obama wins for the sake of this country... The republicans are praying and hoping that the idiots and uneducated racists and bigots will return them to power... Their support is critical and so the only way to appeal to hate is to manufacture lies and innuendo, reapeat it enough times that the "heartland" would vote "white". Sad, because 4 more years of Bush won't help them anymore than the last 8 years have... Am just soo tired of all the hate and racism I read on these sites... people pretending to debate facts when instead they are debating their hate, racism and biggotry... all because they cannot stand the thought of a man with black skin in the white house... never mind the way this country has gone down the crapper and the fact that the two women who raised Obama are as white as them... There is only one choice in this election, anyone with common sense knows Obama is that choice... but then... reading the posts above... common sense is NOT so common... oh well.. God help us.

Posted by: not the bush policies again under mccain | October 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Tom Posted

Every white guy voting for Obama is doing it because of one thing only:

White guys have been trained like a puppies since their youth to crave having a Black Friend.

Anyone who thinks Obama is getting the votes of white guys for any other reason is dumb.

Anyone White Guy who doesn't realize he is voting for Obama for that reason only is a very well trained puppy dog.

Woof! Woof! Woof!
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Tom, Tom! May I call you Uncle Tom?

Dude, you are really giving white guys a bad name. By the way, you must have ESP for you to be able to discern the minds of every white male American! I don't know you nor do I have ESP but I don't think you have the ESP power your post suggest you have!

What would you call all those Black people who voted for all those white political candidates? Huh??? I don't hear you. What's that you said?? Damn, my ESP apparatus isn't working we are losing our connection....

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | October 9, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I was reading comments and finally couldn't read any more - many of you are so naive it is pathetic. If you go by the media you are going to be mislead. This world is complicated place and other cultures are totally different than ours. If you think Obama can just go and have a "chat" with some of these Middle Eastern leaders and get their attention - sorry, they will laugh behind our backs.

Also, you who are blaming the Republicans for everything are blind-sighted. They tried to tell the Democrats over and over again that Fannie and Mac needed to be checked out - they were concerned. I am an Independent Voter and have voted for Democrats, but not this year as they have allowed some strange people into the ranks. I do not trust Obama - check his record!! Who is behind him!! Just because he is a smooth speaker does not mean he is trustworthy. McCain has injuries that make him look stiff, but he is NOT. If you do not look for truth you are going to be deceived. Go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

This is not me saying something, it is actually what happened, but the media is covering up.


Posted by: The Traveler | October 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

People, people... let's calm down... we have our ACORN staff out in full force for the rest of the month to make as many fraudulent registrations as their little fingers can create. By the way, if any of you want to stop by your local ACORN office and contribute to the activities please do, we need all the help we can get.

Posted by: Michelle Obama | October 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

***
Fool me once, shame on you. (W’s 1st Term)
Fool me twice, shame on me. (W’s 2nd Term)
Fool me three times, I’m an Idot voting for McShame
***

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

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Tim:
"That is why I am voting for Obama, and that is why 60% of America is voting for Obama."

"Why does Obama's history of association with and/or support from a terrorist, crook, racist, and anti-American not bother you?

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Leave Sarah alone!

We love her vitriol!

Hockey mom's unite!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ycdgJoN5H8

Posted by: hockey mom lover! | October 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

the minorities are not just voting for Barack but for the Democratic Party, just like we did for Bill Clinton. How can we vote Republican when the Republican party had consciously excluded the minorities in their plan just to satisfy the far right evangelicals. When the Republican becomes more tolerant and centrist, you will see more minorities voting Republican, until then we will continue to vote Democrat.

Posted by: nosomething | October 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

And that's not the only thing that reeks... that plane smells like arse. Just imagine if we get BO in the white house!

Posted by: Bob Row | October 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"By the way, I'm a flaming homo. Any takers?

Posted by: lking | October 9, 2008 2:08 PM"

another example of being in the wrong place and wrong time. should you having been appeared among remaining relatives and friends of nearly 1500000 murdered iraqis, your flames would turn into bloody boiling hole. :)

Posted by: smilin | October 9, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

I personally want a bad-ass president. So, the question is, who has personally killed more innocent civilians?

I'm pretty sure Obama's count is at 0, so McCain is the clear winner.

I know who I am voting for - Killer McCain!

Posted by: juan | October 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

MCCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: Rae | October 9, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

You really should take down the comment about the smell in Obama's plane. I doubt it came from Michelle and think it reeks of racism. Thanks

Posted by: Bob Row | October 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

And if you have anyone in your family that votes NOBAMA they need a shrink.

Posted by: Michelle Obama | October 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

During the beginning of the debate, I noticed that McCain was breathing heavily into the microphone, he sounded winded. It seemed like he was both exhausted from pacing a few steps and nervous, even with all his experience, nervous since he was expected to have to put on the performance of his lifetime to change the tides. I think it really showed his age and questionable health. And this is an extremely important point considering that his VP pick is so unqualified to be president. McCain's age and health should be more of a concern, this debate proved that point.
Needless to say, Obama was far more impressive than McCain, again. Its kind of hard to consider a 'top of the class Ivy League Law School graduate' a fair match for a 'bottom of the class Military Academy graduate' in terms of a debate. Obama came off as just plain smarter and more capable. Its no wonder McCain's chances are slipping away.

Posted by: Rae | October 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Tom wrote: "

Every white guy voting for Obama is doing it because of one thing only:

White guys have been trained like a puppies since their youth to crave having a Black Friend.

Anyone who thinks Obama is getting the votes of white guys for any other reason is dumb.

Anyone White Guy who doesn't realize he is voting for Obama for that reason only is a very well trained puppy dog.

Woof! Woof! Woof!"

Oh! My! God!

Tom, who trained you? I can recommend better trainers. It's not too late.

Posted by: Carlaclaws | October 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

"Poor comprehension. Ayers said as late as around 9/11 that he felt the terrorists had not done enough."

BILLW,

You are Worthless LIAR.

Ayers said that he had wished that HE had done enough, not the terrorists of 9/11.

Stop being a complete as*hole and tell the truth.

Posted by: Tim | October 9, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

if (HangsOutWithCriminals)
{
GuiltyAsCharged++;
}

Posted by: Barry Soetoro | October 9, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

It is really sad to see my country for which I have faught for comming apart at the seams. I do not believe Americans have been so divided since the civil war. Both sides need to wake up now is not the time to fall apart . Trying to blame Bush for everything is ridiculous trying to blame the democratic congress for everything is just as absurd. We need to come together . Remember the day after 9-11 we got off our asses and a got together and went out and kicked some ass. It is time for that to happen again. The US has potential like no other nation on earth we have diversity ,Educational institutions, research facilities like no other place on earth. There is a old saying if you cannot say anything constructive then don't say anything at all. Time to pull together no matter who wins . Stop the Bashing and start being positive . If we as americans cannot reach across the Aisle the how do we expect our leaders to.

Posted by: RAL
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Thank you, RAL. The entire world KNOWS McCain will NOT reach across the isle. He proved this by referring to Senator Obama, his fellow senator, as "that one" and REFUSED to shake Senator Obama's hand when he (Obama) extended his hand to McCain after the debate. McCain nudged his wife's elbow and walked the other way!! McCain did both these dispicable thing in front of the entire world to see. McCain's hate for Senator Obama has gotten out of hand, to the point, that when he or Sarah have rallies they encite some people to yell, "traitor!!" "kill him!!!" There is NO room or reason to incite this kind of hatred from the crowds, but McCain and Palin seem to relish doing this!! Please folks, we do NOT want nor do we need this kind of people in our countries helm. I can just see the two of them yelling at the top of their lungs, "kill them", "kill them" for anyone who disagrees with McCain and Palin. McCain has already sung, "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iraq"; he has already advocated sending crates of cigarettes to Iran because he thinks, "it's a good way to kill Iranians". Please folks, think and think hard. It is McCain and Palin who really are dangerous for our country. They are NOT country first, they are McCain & Palin FIRST, AT ANY COST!!

Posted by: NinaK | October 9, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

So if you have anyone in your family that is non-white you are "That Guy", if you have anyone in your family that is non-Christian you are "A Terrorist", if you are non-republican you are "anti-American", if you’re a Christian you are "protected from witchcraft", if you are part of the 75% of America that opposes the war in Iraq you are a "coward" and if you drive a snow-mobile you are "Johnny six-pack", if you’re for voting down party lines you’re a "maverick", if you make $250,000 a year you are the "average middle-class American", if you fly in helicopters and shoot moose with a $10,000 rifle you are a "sportsman/sportswoman"? I think I got the idea of the McCain/Palin campaign, but I am still trying to figure out what is going to be any different than under Bush regime?

Posted by: KIT | October 9, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

I just love McCain and Palin... they rock!

Posted by: Kerry | October 9, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: chrystyna.. from Sarisota is bashing education! Being a professional student makes one ill-equiped for real life issues?.."

You need to read ALL the words in a post to arrive at an intelligent response.

First, try spelling Sarasota correctly

Second, it may hurt your feelings but sooner or later you have got to come out of the closet of continuous education and...

GET A JOB!

Third, i have rejected dozens of job application in my business from those with fancy degrees.

Most new college grads are just paper pushers who can take a test.

These programmers couldn't write software to save their soles and have demonstrated remedial skills in communication and zero understanding of the business they are to automate.

Not to say that a degree doesn't hurt. But the best programmers I have ever met are self taught!

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Any underage girls online?

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

chrystyna,
I assure you it isn't just Patrick. Spend enough time arguing with the Christian Right and you will come to the unmistakable conclusion that not only are they non-intellectual, they are actually anti-intellectual. This is one of the key reasons that Obama is *only* leading by 10 points. People see him as 'too intelligent', which they somehow equate with less able to connect with the 'common man'. Its a sad (but inevitable) outcome of believing that a 2,000 year old myth filled with inaccuracies and internal contradictions was written by the creator of the universe.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Billy! You SOB! You never call! You never write!

Posted by: Bin Laden | October 9, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Before Mr.& Mrs. Perfect, McCain & Palen started their flimsy accusations, lets review Palen's husband ties and association with the Alaskan group to succeed from the United States and the anti-semantic group who backed Nazi sympathizers during the 80;s and actually his name was listed as one of it's board members. These are just 2 examples I'm aware of which are true and actually they sound worse than working on a school board program where an ex-radical from the 60's is involved with, too. And on that same board someone officially backed McCain yesterday so does that mean McCain is associated with terrorists, too?

Posted by: Kerry | October 9, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

What's wrong with bombing a few federal buildings anyway? Like we all haven't done a few bad things in our past. Me and Barry are tight, and I hope to be the secretary of defense when he's elected.

Posted by: William Ayers | October 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

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sherri:
"Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was a militant. This shows how empty of contributions the McCain Palin team is."

Poor comprehension. Ayers said as late as around 9/11 that he felt the terrorists had not done enough.

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Who is a terrorist?
A word invented by GOP and using so effectevely.Defenition goes "Who ever you can link to your opponent in a negative way"

Why didn't find and killed Bin Laden?

May be they want to use him in coming elections too. Lets wait for some last minute surprises. Going by the past some video tapes should be under construction!!

Posted by: Jack | October 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

White Guys:

Obama is the Black Friend we have always craved to have!

White Guys:

Obama is the Black Friend we have always craved to have!

White Guys:

Obama is the Black Friend we have always craved to have!

White Guys:

Obama is the Black Friend we have always craved to have!

White Guys:

Obama is the Black Friend we have always craved to have!

Posted by: Tom | October 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

For thousands of Americans who beleived the lies which got us into a War we did not need and who watched their savings ,jobs and in some cases their homes diappear and who beleived that if you let financial insttuions and banks operate without regualtions and now must witness the complete failure of these policies for some rather than admit they were decieved they are willing to turn to slinging mud at Obama. But if they could vote for their own interest and some one who respects that interest they would vote for Obama and not listen to slanderous stuff designed to get them to take their eye off the ball ,this stuff may make them feel good for the moment but want get them jobs, affordable medical care ,houses , regulated banks and financial instututions and some one who will not take them in unnecesary wars . Don;t let those who supported the ones who put you in this financial mess trick you again . Obama represents the best in America where a boy of mixed races , single Mother who dies prematrely can succeed and offer to use his learning and experieces to make the country better for us all all us would applaud that if we did not let those who only want to tear people down control us . We must always keep in mind that some people profit by keeping us apart whether they be talk show host , ministers , or politicians and there biggest fear is that Whites , Blacks and minorites will start voting to protect their own interest. Don't be decieved vote for Obama and get a fair deal and your share of the resourses of this country.

Posted by: james | October 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Let's talk about bad judgement and questionable associates - of John McCain's.

1. Charles Keating
2. Raffaello Follieri
3. Rick Renzi
4. G. Gordon Liddy
5. John Singlaub
6. Vicki Iseman (lobbyist)
7. Rick Davis (lobbyist)
8. Phil Gramm

McCain was NOT exonerated in the Keating 5 scandal. The judgement was that he was guilty of poor judgement.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"Agreed. The problem for McCain is that Obama's supporters are black, die-hard democrats, and the young who think Obama is hip and cool. Your comment above is true, but it makes no difference to these people. Too bad the country has come to this."

I am not black. I am not a Democrat. I do not think Obama is hip or cool.

I think that McCain is completely out of touch. He doesn't know the economy. He doesn't know how to use a computer. He talks about experience and then picks a vice president with no experience. He talks about running a positive campaign, then he goes negative 90% of the time.

That is why I am voting for Obama, and that is why 60% of America is voting for Obama.

Posted by: Tim | October 9, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

How far away the Iowa Caucuses seem right now. Iowans made it clear that negative campaigning would be punished early in the process, so we got to hear the candidates focus on the issues and selected Barack Obama on that basis. Several more states after Iowa held the line, too, and were rewarded with clean, issues oriented primaries.

However, somewhere down the line the old negative campaigning was again tolerated and things have naturally deteriorated until the republicans are left campaigning against William Ayers while our financial markets fall apart. How sad.

Despite all the negative info being spewed in the campaigns right now, I really do think that we have two quality people running for President.

John McCain has served his country honorably in many capacities and has proven leadership abilities. Prior to beginning this campaign, his policy stances were usually well reasoned and defendable, even if I did not always agree with them. As the presidential campaign has evolved, though, McCain has compromised himself so far to the right that he has lost track of what got him to the position of being a presidential candidate in the first place. Selecting completely unqualified Sarah Palin as his running mate is an excellent example of the kind of thinking that has led McCain so far astray.

Barack Obama is an intelligent man who has thoughtfully articulated cogent positions on the issues. I don't always agree with him, either, but do feel that his positions are taken from intelligent reflection of what would be best for America. Everyone makes a lot out of how he works large stadium crowds, but when I heard him speak in a Middle School gym in January before about 200 people, he was certainly articulate, but also connected with the real people in that gym. After he spoke, he spent a lot of time shaking hands and talking to the just plain folks in the room. He did not tell us he had all the answers, but he did tell us how he would figure them out. By bringing the best minds from our country regardless of party together to work for us.

I trust Barack Obama to surround himself with the best and brightest from our country as his advisors, and to think, reason, and make judgements that will be best for all Americans. I believe he can make the hard choices that will be before us. I only wish he were president right now instead of W.

I caucused for Barack Obama last January, and have already voted this fall for Obama/Biden.

Posted by: Mike from Iowa | October 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

By the way, I'm a flaming homo. Any takers?

Posted by: lking | October 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Every white guy voting for Obama is doing it because of one thing only:

White guys have been trained like a puppies since their youth to crave having a Black Friend.

Anyone who thinks Obama is getting the votes of white guys for any other reason is dumb.

Anyone White Guy who doesn't realize he is voting for Obama for that reason only is a very well trained puppy dog.

Woof! Woof! Woof!

Posted by: Tom | October 9, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"I don't think the country will go down the toilet after the next president takes office, no matter who that person is. We are kind of in the toilet now, and since I don't believe this country will ever fail completely, we really have nowhere to go but up from here. No matter who gets in, he'll look like a hero because things can only get better. Sort of like Clinton. He did dookey to help this country. It just turned around and started getting better on its own shortly after he took office, he took the credit, and many of you schmucks bought it. Thank goodness for term limits. Clinton's military strategy was a direct contributor to the occurrence of 9/11. If he had gotten another term, the only thing left of our military would be a battalion of gays that couldn't even tell you they were gay.

Posted by: rontheroquer | October 9, 2008 11:11 AM"


the only worth reading comment. shame on the most of commenters; you are all in the same boat but behave like oppo-parasites. only time could take care of you all.

Posted by: intears | October 9, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Anytime the VAST majority of American Media skews all relevant news about a pending election, a rational thinker should be alarmed!

Yesterday, CNN would not allow me to post anything slightly close to center on an article titled “Obama slams McCain debate Response”. When I questioned the CNN post moderator they closed the post!

Censorship! I hope they realize what they are attempting to put in the Oval Office! Big, very expensive government who will not tolerate decent!

Watch out for your rights, NoBama is gunning for them. Just look at his drones, kept in the dark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEWCnpNnBQ) and willing to go the distance for nothing more than charisma!

Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Bill wrote:

"4. Are you bothered that our first lady killed someone drunk driving?"

Bill, careful here. As a teenager, Laura Welch (Bush) did cause a motor vehicle accident that resulted in the death of a friend of hers. There is no evidence that she did so while driving drunk. She was not tested, but that may well have been because she passed a field sobriety test and there was no evidence that she'd been drinking.

I am a Democrat who will vote for Obama, and I can't wait for the Bush administration's eviction from the White House, but please, let's not stoop to their level.

Posted by: Carlaclaws | October 9, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

McCain is engaing in gutter politics. His problem is that, only the rats..er repubs...hear him.

Be honorable McCain! Be righteous Palin! Your tactics belie the character you purport to have.

What a mcShame!

Posted by: tanner | October 9, 2008 2:07 PM | Report abuse

i'm an alaskan ethnic who spent time in naval aviation on board an aircraft carrier,got a cat-shot (hydraulics) and an arrested gear touch down on a carrier, sat in the ready room with the boys during breifing ( where they are suppose to go and be on the mission) from the carrier in the south china sea. mccain seems to have strayed from the trajectory and proximity effective ranges of the missiles, which may have been covered during the breifing.
HE GOT SHOT DOWN, went to jail, deserves to because he disobeyed a "DIRECT ORDER" which he grew up with from an admiral father, wasted several million dollar aircraft, which you and I paid for with our taxes. Labeled a "hero" ?, sailors pick up girl friends on the beach, picks up governor girl friend and off they go on a junket to rule?. he could keep his girl friend,she may not be welcome in Alaska anymore after these couple weeks of their performances.

Posted by: lking | October 9, 2008 2:06 PM | Report abuse

"
Dr. Tantillo, who has a marketing blog , did a post a while back on the Obama/Biden brands and the McCain/Palin brands.

He argued that McCain's choice of VP now makes him, rather than Obama, the candidate of Change:
"

Argue is no use.

Anyone can say anytime I am the candidate of Change.

Or I can make money for you if you invest in my fund.

Would you put your 401K in that fund based on the word?

Media can do that dumb thing becuase media can keep getting money from you.

Posted by: jy2008 | October 9, 2008 2:05 PM | Report abuse

Did you hear that reporter from CBS say that Barry's plane stinks? I guess we gots to quit eatin all them chitlins and fried oakra... mmm mmm mmm, it sho do give us gas.

Posted by: Michelle Obama | October 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: John I asked you how many of your guns were confiscated during the Clinton Amdinistration. Also, what the hell does the average citizen need with assault weapons? Do you hunt squirrels with an AK-47?"

GET EDUCATED

(1) It is what I was NOT allowed to buy it.
(A) ten years later the law proved to
be a ruse!

(2) They were NOT assault weapons! Get it!
(A) they were, and still are, common
firearms used for hunting,
plinking, farm varmints, and
competition.

(3) A "real assault weapon" is always a fully automatic weapon. They were restricted in the The National Firearm Act of 1934

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 2:04 PM | Report abuse

if the republican ticket had anything constructive or intelligent to say, they would. Since they have nothing to offer but lies, they are linking Obama to Ayers because they both sat on a board together for better schools. Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was a militant. This shows how empty of contributions the McCain Palin team is.

Posted by: sherri | October 9, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

Now Patrick from Sarisota is bashing education! Being a professional student makes one ill-equiped for real life issues??? What?!?!

Now I see why you have the ideas you have...your education ended around 8th grade and your brain growth was stunted.

Poor guy. He can't help it. He's just too uneducated.

Posted by: chrystyna | October 9, 2008 2:00 PM | Report abuse

LOOK FORWARD Senator McCain. Too much effort attempting to discredit your opponents (with sometimes half truths). Remember, we're listening to help ourselves decide who's going to be our next President. Think LEADERSHIP!!!!!! Think self employment. www.LikeSoup.com

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

Forgive me, but I didn't read ALL the comments before mine, but I read a lot of them before I realized its the same old same old of people just saying whatever they want for "their side".

I have not made up my mind yet and yes its largey because I see it as which one is less evil.

I'm always amazed though at people who actually think the President is responsible for (fill in the blank) economic factor. Like before the bailout issue, people wanted to know which canidate was going to lower gas prices...neither would, the market controls it, not the President.

What got me started reading this was the post by "Truth" with questions for McCain supporters...which as I stated I'm not, but I thought I run through them anyway

I thought I'd try to answer them...

* How are you're investments looking today....Today I'm making a killing buying up stocks that tumbled the past few days

* How about you're 401K...its down hard, but I'm only 32 so I invest aggressivly and have 30 years till retirement, so not really a concern yet

* How about you're job security...my small company (which I started 8 years ago) got acquired by a big company about 9 months ago. I feel pretty secure where I'm at


* How about health insurance... I have great insureance and I pay very little for it.

* How about prescription drug costs...my costs are very low

* Is you're bank safe...Not sure. I think so they are crazy large and are buying the other ones that screwed up. Plus I understand they were not part of the "secret" SWAP market that is what hosed AIG and LB. Of course I can't be sure, but I'm feeling ok. Besides I have less money in the bank that FDIC covers, so shouldn't matter.

* Owe more on you're house than its worth...No I got a "real" 30-year fixed mortgage and didn't over go my income. Plus home values have not really dropped in Texas, so I'm ok.

* Is you're house worth what is was last year or has it gone down in value...my home value has gone up

* Worried about retirement...nope thats 30 years away

* How about a layoff...always a chance, but not worried about it

* Think we can entertain another war...No I don't think we should. I have many friends in harms way already.

* How do you feel about a draft...really wouldn't want one

* Does president Palin have a certian ring to it...nope but honestly thats my problem on the other side...I think I'd rather have Bideon that Obama...

anyway I'm still not sure...I hope I hear somethign in the next debate...just thought I'd answer the questions

Posted by: Undecided in Texas | October 9, 2008 1:59 PM | Report abuse

To Kenny:
Read your bible and not just go by what you hear your political party say. There are no "greatest" sins. Sin is SIN!! Lying, Cheating, Stealing, Slavery, Murdering, Adultery, Hate, Abuse, etc. etc. (just to name a very few) all fall under that category and God is not pleased with ANY SIN! And if you read the bible you will find a scripture in Matthew 7:1 that is says and I quote: "judge not, that ye be not judged." You will also find that God is going to judge the WHOLE WORLD and not just the U.S.

To Sharon/GA:
White people have always voted for white people because they're white. Just like those who voted for George Bush (twice) and look what that done for our country! And you say that people should care what happens to the US when he was voted in twice? Black people have always voted and has only had a choice but to vote for a white candidate so now that there's a black candidate, blacks are voting b/c he's black? Can you say racist to yourself? You live in a glass house and shouldn't throw stones.

Posted by: ARealChristian | October 9, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Listening to McCain and Palin in Wisconsin.
To angry. To hateful. McCain comes across as so damn ODD and off kilter. Palin so damn shrill. …………………drivel
Posted by: llewis40 | October 9, 2008 1:50 PM
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Me thinks you mean ‘Too’ not ‘to’
I is a proud graduate ov 2nd grade English class.

Posted by: Doug | October 9, 2008 1:58 PM | Report abuse

The rebulicans are using BS scare tactics to scare the public into voting for this by telling lies about Obama.

Isn't using scare tactics to get people to vote for you similar to terrorism, but without death?

I think there is a connection, but I will let you decide.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Patrick
Hate to tell you, but I have paid for every penny of my education with my own company. Making money is easy. Choosing to spend it on an education is the hard decision.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

"
Check out the current issue of Rolling Stone Magazine. It's cover story is "Make Believe Maverick, The Real John McCain. Learn the truth about McCain and his true character, using his famous father and grandfather and their high rank to get himself favorable treatment time and again. It's a real eye opener.
"

Very few may gamble own life for political life, if McCain is one.

Some may gamble Iraq for their political life, given they do not have to go there.

Posted by: jy2008 | October 9, 2008 1:56 PM | Report abuse

.

Flowerbomb:
"McCain's only problem is that this country has become a nation filled with ignorant, arrogant liberals with no sense or morals,values, personal responsibility and accountability, so much so that a lying, terrorist friendly fraud like Obama can run for the highest office."

Agreed. The problem for McCain is that Obama's supporters are black, die-hard democrats, and the young who think Obama is hip and cool. Your comment above is true, but it makes no difference to these people. Too bad the country has come to this.

.

Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Dr. Tantillo, who has a marketing blog , did a post a while back on the Obama/Biden brands and the McCain/Palin brands.

He argued that McCain's choice of VP now makes him, rather than Obama, the candidate of Change:

"Brands are combined for two reasons:
1) To complement one another;
and/or
2) Because they are consistent with one another.
The best brand combinations are when both 1 and 2 are happening.

Seems to me like their common brand is being 'maverick' in a vague way for uncertain reasons and being largely out of touch. But hey, I suppose at least they're a good match!

Tantillo's full post

Posted by: sloane | October 9, 2008 1:55 PM | Report abuse

12 years ago (Before he ran the first time)
I might have voted for Mccain-
but threw the years I have learned Much more about him- Keating 5 involvement-
- Anger problems - and he tells Alot of lies-
that Anyone paying attention can See-
He picked a unqualified VP just to try and get the woman's vote- Shameful --
These are Not what I am looking for in my president--

Posted by: Jay | October 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Patrick-

Obama will not take your guns away. I have heard him say so on many accounts.

What the heck is going on in Sarisota that necessitates needing firearm protection in your home? Are people running around the streets of Sarisota shooting each other? If that's the case, maybe we shouldn't have guns at all (but that's my opinion).

And, back when the Constitution was enacted (YEARS ago), there was a need to have guns. Everyone had a gun. There was a lot going on that might necessitate owning a gun. But now?

Not so much.

And frankly; your half-assed ideas don't make much sense. I can't figure out what your point is...

You want your guns. Okay; keep 'em. Nobody is taking away your stupid guns!

Posted by: chrystyna | October 9, 2008 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Why are Republican so dum?

Posted by: Isme | October 9, 2008 10:48 AM
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I am not sure. I think it might be too much television. They mostly think in cliches and pipe dreams that the republican spin maching produces, so they don't have to actually make decisions themselves. An example of such sound bites is "raise your taxes and spend" even though Obama will cut the taxes of 95% of the people. Another is "he will take away your guns", although Obama has told them he doesn't want their guns. "He's a terrorist", sort of the sames bs as Bush and his WMD. And I could go on and on.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

PleaseChange, I am not getting into who got more tax write-offs but I am merely stating facts - who pays what and how much, and based on the numbers, Obama's plan will probably fail.
I am not saying that McCain's plan is any better, but that's another story

Posted by: fedupwithdems | October 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: That Guy..Are you a DJ as well?
And I have my BA from New College, a Masters in Urban Planning from Athens, GA and I'm currently working on a PhD in Public Policy."

And you STILL WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE!

How many mirrors around the house do you have?

Being a profession student means you are ill equipped to handle the real world.

Try starting and maintaining a business!

Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard because it was "slowing him down".

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 1:52 PM | Report abuse

God.

Listening to McCain and Palin in Wisconsin.
To angry. To hateful. McCain comes across as so damn ODD and off kilter. Palin so damn shrill.

Look at the polls which some of you haters and bigots seem to go by like the bible. OBAMA is way , way up in my home state of Virginia like 3,6, 12 points. His message is clear.

Vote for a cool, calm cerebral man like OBAMA who will think, talk, and produce a viable economic solution to our country's way out of this economic mess. While McCain believes in nothing but gimmicks like that phony suspension of his campaign and picking this so called female version of Reagan. A shoot from the hip Gov. from moose country who seems to enjoy in rolling around in nothing but hate and negativity in all its glory.

Nothing but absolute crap from these two.

Posted by: llewis40 | October 9, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"Poster 1..Just curious...how many of your guns were confiscated by the federal government during the commie, pinko, america-hating, un-patriotic, military-hating Clinton Administration?? You are living in a state of delusion. Posted by: John"

"Poster 2..You're an idiot. If you white supremist trash...laws will pass overwhelmingly and overnight. Posted by: Mike In Oregon"

John. Deal with this:
(1) Mayor Naygen (D-LA), during precisely the time needed, confistacted firearms for lawful citizen in the middle of civil chaos.

(2) Clinton Banned "assault weapons" for 10 years! Because they "looked bad".

(3) Washington DC, Chicago, San Francisco, prohibit ownership of firearms in your home to protect yourself!

(4) Kennedy repeatedly proposed banning and taxing common ammunition to "get around" his desired outright ban proposals.

Mike in OR - You are most certainly unhinged! Only a paranoid psycho would ramble with such babble. Check your meds dude you need some Xanax.


Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 1:27 PM
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Patrick,

I asked you how many of your guns were confiscated during the Clinton Amdinistration. Your non-answer tells me the real answer is 0. Also, what the hell does the average citizen need with assault weapons? Do you hunt squirrels with an AK-47? I think you are the one who has gone off his meds.

Posted by: John | October 9, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

On viewing the debate I was struck by McCain's unsteady gate, lack of common facial expressions and delay of irrational anger. This type of presentation is characteristic of individuals on diagnosis of the onset of Parkinson's disease. While some of this can be attributed to old injuries and surgery for melanoma this possibility is very troubling. It is critical that we know whether McCain's medical records include a recent neurological work up... if not this is essential.

Posted by: nolies3 | October 9, 2008 1:48 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: Average American..We need a President who is a PROVEN independent decision-maker, not a party puppet!"

SO RIGHT!

Vote John McCain / Sarah Palin - Today!

Posted by: P | October 9, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Socialism? Do you really know what socialism is? A transitional stage between capitalism and communism thats what it is. Yes, communism.

Even communist China needs capitalism now. There is nothing to aspire to in a socialist state. You can work your but off while the bum next to you sleeps and at the end of the week you'll get the paid the same.

Posted by: Fisher | October 9, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Ever notice how all of John McCain's big hero stories all come from him or people that he told about them at some point. I mean there are no witnesses that saw him do anything heroic. All of the stories are just his version of what happened. Its not like a real hero that saved his men buy taking out a machine gun nest or jumping from his boat to kill an enemy toting a rocket launcher like John Kerry did. All of John McCain's heroic deeds somehow happened in the shadows and we are supposed to take his word for them. I imagine that at least some of those guards holding and supposedly beating and torturing John McCain are still alive. I would like to hear their side of the story. We have heard from former "enemy combatants" of World War II, why not hear what those accused of beating and torturing John McCain have to say? If what McCain says is true why hasn't he pushed for war crimes to be filed against these horrible men? Why allow them to walk the streets? Victims of World War II have come forward to challenge their monstrous captors, so why hasn't John McCain done the same thing?

I think John McCain was an underachieving liar when he was in the Navy and is still and underachieving liar today. That is unless you consider finishing 894th in your graduating class 899 achieving, or if you consider crashing five expensive U.S. war planes achieving, or if you consider being a trader to his country and his men by aiding the enemy and speaking out against the United States of America to aid his captors achieving or if you consider dumping his crippled wife to marry a millionaire's daughter half his age achieving, or you consider helping Charles Keating steal billions from savings and loans achieving, or if you consider him pushing for deregulation of the U.S. banking system that created our country's and possibly the world's current financial melt down achieving.

Posted by: RW | October 9, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Where is the CHANGE Obama speaks of?

Just look at his record, NO change there!

And now he is pushing "beLIEve"! Yea, as any rational person can see, it would take BLIND FAITH to believe in Obama!

Some of you people will look facts in the face and see whatever NoBama tells you to, how sad, sheep led to the slaughter…

With NO relevant experience, NO economic plan, and nothing but tired DC rhetoric, what is left for the average American make a judgment on?

I guess we could look at his history of decisions and associations...

Strict Democrat voting, Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers...

Wow, you'd thing even the Democrats would have a problem with such an extream left winger with his lack of cridentials...

Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

We recycle, family owns one car, one child (consuming less resources), pay taxes, pro choice and YES liberal... now you say who puts country first?! And oh yes, also immigrants! I cant imagine how ignorant people are about Obama, this guy is smart and respected by the world. We NEED him NOW. Wake up!

Posted by: rkwpnw | October 9, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

The Obama Smear Campaign against McCain is only the first taste of a Smear Campaign that will begin against anyone who dares to question his policies.
Journalists are Cheerleaders.
Goodbye First Amendment.
Goodbye First Amendment.
Goodbye First Amendment.
Journalists are Cheerleaders.
Journalists are Cheerleaders.
Journalists are Cheerleaders.
Goodbye First Amendment.
Goodbye First Amendment.
Journalists are Cheerleaders.

Posted by: Tom | October 9, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA MCCAIN BUSH All the same.
Big Government = Freddie, Fannie, Sallie
What is the difference?

Posted by: Q | October 9, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Patrick-
Are you a DJ as well?

And I have my BA from New College, a Masters in Urban Planning from Athens, GA and I'm currently working on a PhD in Public Policy.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

If McCain is going to go back in history & talk about Ayers, he should also go back and talk about the planes he was crashing while in the Navy. We would like to hear more about the damage he did and see who did more harm: him or Ayers?

Posted by: NotABanker | October 9, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: northcountry1..I'm 74--and I saw an old man in McCain--like the guys I know. I wouldn't want them in DC"

How about these old timers.....

Supreme Court Justices
John Paul Stevens (b.1920) 88 years old!
Ruth Bader Ginsberg (b.1933) 75 years old!
Stephen Breyer (b.1938) 70 years old!
Davide Souter (b.1939) 69 years old!

Business Leaders
Kirk Kerkorian (b.1917) 91 years old!
T boone Pickens (b.1928) 80 years old!
Carl Icahn (b.1936) 72 years old!

I know some older Americans in their late
80's and 90's who have more focus and energy than albeit most of you nitwits out there.

"...Old age and treachery defeat youth and
beauty, all the time.."

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

Kenny
I feel that by you quoting from a book of stories written by men emphasizes my point even more. Why would God, who is loving and non-judgmental turn his back on his creations. God would accept and forgive all.
If your quote is true then your christian candidate of choice will not be allowed in your vengeful and judgmental God's heaven.
McCain has committed adultery is only one of his many indiscretions. Palin was sexually promiscuous and became pregnant before being married, one of her many indiscretions. I'm sure Obama has had his share of indiscretions as well. As do most politicians and humans in general.
My point is leave God out of politics. And I'll say it again, I believe God is loving, accepting, and nonjudgmental to all human beings and creatures.
Love and Peace

Posted by: Believe in God | October 9, 2008 1:44 PM | Report abuse

"Posted by: That Guy..I ask again, do you have any education beyond a high school level? And while I'm not running down job training, I do not mean a technical school."

I'll bet far more than you...in addtion to...running a software development company for 26 years....without EVER asking the government for one dime or benefit!

How about you....more gimme, gimme, gimme.

By the way I went to school in the elite Philadelphia Pennsylvania college system.

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 1:42 PM | Report abuse

John McCain mocked Obama for not wanting to join him in a Town Hall Meeting. What we saw was McCain as an angry old man hobbling across a stage to answer questions whispering breathy answers to questions like he was already on his death bed, standing too close to audience members and creepily addressing them as "my friends" repeatedly. To me, images always come before words, and this was the picture of a great turning point of the election placed in Obama's lap. No wonder why Brokaw had a twinkle in his eye for Obama--he saw the next President of the United States in him.

Posted by: Gene Skala, Illinois | October 9, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

In the last eight years, we have seen what damage a PHONY, LYING, DIM-WIT [a.k.a MORON, IDIOT, FOOL etc, etc] HYPOCRITICAL and COLLOSSALLY INCOMPETENT Prez and his Party can do - -
NO MORE OF THESE 'PSEUDO-MACHO' ''JOE-SIX-PACKS'' should ever be elected to OFFICE !!!!!!
-Posted by: AMIGO | October 9, 2008
……………………………………….
This so-called moron has degrees from Harvard and Yale, and the rocket scientist AMIGO hasn’t even figured out the caps lock feature on his keyboard.

You gotta love these brilliant libs!

Posted by: Doug | October 9, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm 74--and I saw an old man in McCain--like the guys I know.
I wouldn't want them in DC

Posted by: northcountry1 | October 9, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

The fact that it is taking the Dems 3 times as much money to barely see a lead should sound the alarm that Obama is NoBama!

NoBama is dangerously under qualified as he demonstrated during the last debate to all but the blind when he told Pakistan that he intended to invade!

This is the wrong time for his inexperience!

We have too much at stake for such naiveté! I’m sorry that we can’t “continue his dream of America” but reality must take hold! I guess his wife will be forced to stop believing in America again...

Everyone realizes that NoBama has no military or foreign relations experience and to objectively look at the world situation and the dangers we face and suggest NoBama is the answer, is to put this Country at jeopardy in order to further a selfish agenda.

Furthermore, NoBama is a Democratic party-puppet! He always dose what his party mandates! No bi-partisanship ever! This alone demonstrates he is the wrong choice for the times!

And then there’s the current economic crisis for which NoBama bears significant responsibility…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEWCnpNnBQ

We need a President who is a PROVEN independent decision-maker, not a party puppet!

Posted by: Average American | October 9, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

I too miss McCain 2000, the honest, funny, real and respectful McCain who lost due to his opponent's lack of integrity and bullishness. McCain has changed drastically, but I haven't. I still am going to vote for the candidate who has integrity, is full of ideas, and is honest. Too bad that aint McCain anymore :(

Posted by: Missing2000 | October 9, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Two points about McCain that seem to be lying beside the road, just WAITING for somebody to pick them up:

1. He has a serious gambling habit, and still makes monthly junkets to Las Vegas, where, thanks to Cindy, he wagers hundreds of thousands of dollars on the tables, especially craps. NONE of his gambling winnings have ever shown up on his tax returns, by the way.

2. McCain supports, and has always supported, privatizing Social Security, putting our precious Social Security funds in the stock market, where last week it would have lost billions of dollars.

But what do you expect. McCain is such a senile, dried-up old buzzard he doesn't even use e-mail; he can't figure it out.

Posted by: Osmigo | October 9, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

To the guy who suggested that Obama will be impeached for incompetence in his first term. Former Constitutional Law professor at the prestigious University of Chicago Barack Obama will tell you that incompetence is not an impeachable offense. (Else Dick Cheney would be president)

Posted by: Con Law Reminder | October 9, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

" To all McCain supporters...* How are you're investments looking today * How about you're 401K * How about you're job security * How about health insurance * How about prescription drug costs * Is you're bank safe * Owe more on you're house than its worth Posted by: Truth"

Job Security: Some of us Republicans are more worried about saving our businesses from government confiscation, so that people like you have a job AT ALL!

Investments: Prudent Investors got out of the markets, an into safer instruments, long before this train wreck reared its head many months ago.

Prescription Drugs: Bush "gave" you them already. Some people still complain about a "free" lunch.


Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama will be the biggest mistake this country has ever made if we are dumb enough to elect him in Nov.He talks a good game but that's all he does is talk.He hasn't a clue about leading this nation.

Posted by: syzito | October 9, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

My question is , Where is Lieberman? Being a Jew and a self-profess politician of principles Lieberman should be loudly denouncing what Palin is doing. The last time a person did what Palin is doing caused millions to lose their life.

Alas, Senator Lieberman's silence is reminiscent of non-German citizens during Nazi Germany who did nothing because the Germans were after them for the moment.

Posted by: SteelWheel1 | October 9, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: nobama_fanboy | October 9, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

PATRICK IN SARASOTA-
I ask again, do you have any education beyond a high school level? And while I'm not running down job training, I do not mean a technical school.

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Check out the current issue of Rolling Stone Magazine. It's cover story is "Make Believe Maverick, The Real John McCain. Learn the truth about McCain and his true character, using his famous father and grandfather and their high rank to get himself favorable treatment time and again. It's a real eye opener.

Posted by: Chris in Seattle | October 9, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

There is no difference between Obama and McCain.
They are both Big Government spenders. Bush turned out to be an Economic Liberal and the Economy responded in kind.
The government is the problem. Sallie Mae, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae Trillions in Goverment losses.
Obama and Bush and McCain are all the same.
Big government.

Posted by: Q | October 9, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Ban toothpaste -- be British.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 9, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

It is so strange to see all of sudden Mr.Mccain is not a Republican but An Independent Republicn! duh what the hell that suppose to mean,changing the label the way he sees fit. Look Mr Mccain lost the game very badly all he is hoping to get a Refree who will be on his side but the Refree he has can't be pribled they are the American people who have lost thier houses due to his watch,yes let me say again his watch, Mr Mccain is responsible as Mr Bush is because this was his party who was running the country so American refrees are not going to be pribeld and he needs to Quit while the game is going on. Mccain you loose Sir.

Posted by: Dino | October 9, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I'd vote for Obama as I agree with him but I'm not going to because I think far more dangerous than any policy issue I have with him is the precedent being set that Journalists will not give Obama tough questions. Obama will have absolute power if elected and the press will continue to be cheerleaders. That's far more dangerous than any policy a McCain/Pelosi/Reid government could implement. I know it's quaint to actually expect the Press to be anything other than Cheerleaders. But, if Obama does something as dumb as the many dumb things Bush has done will be criticized? No, the Cheerleading Squad doesn't criticize their own team. The most dangerous thing in this election is the complete and utter adulation of Barack Obama.

Posted by: Tom | October 9, 2008 1:32 PM | Report abuse

McCain's only problem is that this country has become a nation filled with ignorant, arrogant liberals with no sense or morals,values, personal responsibility and accountability, so much so that a lying, terrorist friendly fraud like Obama can run for the highest office.
I am in a position financially that I can survive 4 years of a socailist dictator like Obama, my wish is that those who vote for him cannot.

Posted by: Flowerbomb | October 9, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Here's what I will never understand.

There's a constant flow of worthless commentary on blogs about liberals and liberal democrats and the libs...

But conservative Americans need to step back and see that "liberals" essentially run and inhabit the social, economic, and entertainment capitals of the United States (located on the east and west coasts.)

So, the parts of the country that are actually most at risk for any sort of terrorist attack are inhabited by mostly people who are not insanely worried about terrorism, at least not in the same way most war-loving (and bible-loving? that makes no sense) conservative republicans are. I am so sick of people using 9-11!! You don't live in New York! You're not at risk. People in Manhattan were actually hit with a terrorist attack and 95% of them want Barack Obama to be their next president. So why do you think you know what they need better than they do? You're out in nowhere ranting about country first and being strong and spreading good....through war??? And this is supposedly coming from Christian people? Take a look at what you're pushing for here.

And what's even more ironic is that the ideals, attitudes, and support of actions that come along with those ideals and attitudes is what puts us more at risk for being attacked and hated by other countries.

IT MAKES NO SENSE! Step back and realize that the same parts of the country you're so concerned about getting hit with terrorist attacks are mostly in support of Obama.

Not only that, but stop going on about the damn liberal media. You're the same people who devour all of the TV, music, and movies that come out of New York and LA and are thought up by, produced, directed, and edited by what you're calling liberals. INCLUDING ADVERTISING!

Posted by: DB | October 9, 2008 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Ban fast food--end flatulence, indigestion and hate crimes.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 9, 2008 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Don't talk to the enemy rings a few bells. Does he know he is not a POW anymore? The "That One" finger point: where's the lynching mob. A Maverick who caved big-time on the 1 Trillion dollar Bailout. Stage 1-5 cancer? Cindy wearing million dollar threads at the debates and rallies. His claims of being a Hero(in his own mind) remind me of another Hero, Jane Fonda. Keating 5 rebuke. The Bush hold me close moment (picture). I don't trust him...Period!

Posted by: Webster09 | October 9, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Palin is unable to understand the consequences of her words. In the UK she could be silenced for instigating violence. She is worse than Bush in her conspiracy theories. She is toxic. Given the anger that is going to mushroom in America as a result of the crash, the number of guns you have going around, inflammatory language Palin style could start a bloody civil unrest. If Palin ended up with any power, many people would end up dead, maimed, disabled, broken, many lives would be ruined and destroyed, because
Palin with her self righteousness and inability to understand even basic issues, would think that her limited thought process is God's word, and somehow, somewhere, her violent narrow understanding would take hold. It's already happening. Beware, this woman is dangerous. And Mc Cain's "Country first" ??? The man is old and full of himself. Thank him for his past services and send him home come November.

Posted by: raphaelraphael | October 9, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

"Poster 1..Just curious...how many of your guns were confiscated by the federal government during the commie, pinko, america-hating, un-patriotic, military-hating Clinton Administration?? You are living in a state of delusion. Posted by: John"

"Poster 2..You're an idiot. If you white supremist trash...laws will pass overwhelmingly and overnight. Posted by: Mike In Oregon"

John. Deal with this:
(1) Mayor Naygen (D-LA), during precisely the time needed, confistacted firearms for lawful citizen in the middle of civil chaos.

(2) Clinton Banned "assault weapons" for 10 years! Because they "looked bad".

(3) Washington DC, Chicago, San Francisco, prohibit ownership of firearms in your home to protect yourself!

(4) Kennedy repeatedly proposed banning and taxing common ammunition to "get around" his desired outright ban proposals.

Mike in OR - You are most certainly unhinged! Only a paranoid psycho would ramble with such babble. Check your meds dude you need some Xanax.

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Caucasian Internment Camps?

Are they in your future?

Keep re-electing incumbents and the next Caliphate will tell you. Aren't Halliburton (now with HQ in Dubai) and KBR doing engineering drawings of facilities, hiring guards(from rendition countries world-wide) and setting up feeding and exercise schedules?

Watch no-bid contracts carefully if the Dems win. Repubs likely to be supported by Arabs in first US coup.

Vote against every incumbent you can.

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 9, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

I am very surprised at how many conservatives seem to read the Washington Post! How's the weather over at FoxNews these days? :)

Posted by: KateJaneway | October 9, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Doug Feaver's PROBLEM


A Question for Doug Feaver
Why aren't YOU covering this, aren't you a reporter?

Financial Crisis

Yes you can thank the Democrats controlling the Governments Mortgage programs for this. Ken Lay, rather Franklin Raines(who walked away with 90 million) and numerous Democrat accomplices turned this mortgage program into a welfare program(even allowing loans to illegals) and STUCK ALL AMERICANS with this monstrous bill when the laws of economics hit this house of toothpicks with a sledge hammer.
Thanks Barney Franks, Christopher Dodd, Chucky Schumer, Maxine Waters and a cast of many Democrats who praised the virtue of this plan, blocked reform and claimed EVERTHING WAS JUST FINE TO THE VERY END...ENRON X 1,000,000!
Where the hell are you media in bed with Obama? The biggest story this century and your sitting on your collective a##es.
Yes the worthless media is no longer a news outlet but has turned into a worthless propaganda machine. It's great to see less Americans getting the news from these corrupt sources.

Yes, Doug Feaver where the hell are YOU?...Yes Doug Feaver you're the problem

Posted by: Mike | October 9, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

To all McCain supporters

* How are you're investments looking today
* How about you're 401K
* How about you're job security
* How about health insurance
* How about prescription drug costs
* Is you're bank safe
* Owe more on you're house than its worth
* Is you're house worth what is was last year or has it gone down in value
* Worried about retirement
* How about a layoff
* Think we can entertain another war
* How do you feel about a draft
* Does president Palin have a certian ring to it

If none of these concern you then by all means go ahead and vote for McCain.

John McCain worse than the same

Posted by: Truth | October 9, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

The hollowness of McCain's healthcare proposals is evident to all.
The singular issue of healthcare is the ability to obtain coverage at reasonable rates for someone with pre-existing conditions.McCain just does not address this.

Posted by: Doofus | October 9, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

People get your facts straight! As an independent I am amazed that anyone would actually vote for a Republican candidate after the last 8 years! We have invaded another country under false pretenses. Killed thousands of innocent people in collateral damage. Raised the national debt to the highest point in US history. Health care has been privatized to the point of profit first and people last! Why would anyone in their right mind want more of this.

This country is not about "for the people and by the people" anymore, it is "for the corporations and by the corporations." And guess which party caters to big business the most?

Have we all lost the ability for independent thought? Are we all just a bunch of sheep? I can't tell you how many people I have heard that can't give you a good thought out reason for the way they are voting except that they just don't like the other party or they have always voted for that particular party! Or if they do have a reason it is filled with slander, poor facts, and propaganda spewed out by someone else who has apparently thought things our for you - like some media outlets and the bubble headed commentators. It seems people want simpleminded answers and winks and catch phrases to complex domestic, foreign, and economic issues.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!!! If you only make a choice this November from an economy standpoint, the United States economy has fared much better under the Democrats than under Republicans. Look at the data from 1948 to 2007. It shows that the average annual growth of the GNP was 1.64% per capita under the Republicans. While the Democrats had a 2.78% GNP. So use some intellectual brain power. It's not rocket science to see how much better the economy faired under a Democratic leadership. That alone should be enough.

The bottom line is this: big business runs this country, not the people. We are living in a disposable economy run by big corporations that have fostered this mentality. Many or our elected leaders in Washington cater to them. They have turned this country and people into disposable "things". If you think big business is concerned for your welfare you are dead wrong! If the people do not get involved and stand up to big corporations, demand accountability from our leadership, everything that we know and love about this country will disappear, and we have no one else to blame but ourselves...

Posted by: VanWS | October 9, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

In the last eight years, we have seen what damage a PHONY, LYING, DIM-WIT [a.k.a MORON, IDIOT, FOOL etc, etc] HYPOCRITICAL and COLLOSSALLY INCOMPETENT Prez and his Party can do - -

NO MORE OF THESE 'PSEUDO-MACHO' ''JOE-SIX-PACKS'' should ever be elected to OFFICE !!!!!!

Posted by: AMIGO | October 9, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

John McCain and Sarah Palin are on CNN right now telling big whoppers!! Is there no end to their deciet and lies? God help us all!

Posted by: NinaK | October 9, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

THE COLUMN SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLED "AMERICAS PROBLEMS"

The Fraudulence of Voter Fraud

The Bush administration purged U.S. attorneys for failing to prosecute crimes that didn’t occur

On April 6, 2006, in Washington, D.C., Karl Rove gave a speech to the Republican National Lawyers Association and issued a dire warning.

When Rove talks about protecting “ballot integrity,” that is shorthand for disenfranchising Democratic Party voters. Over the last several years, the Justice Department, with the help of White House operatives, has sought to boost GOP electoral fortunes by orchestrating a national campaign against voter fraud. But the administration overreached on Dec. 7, when President George W. Bush fired eight U.S. attorneys, a political scandal that some say could become this president’s Watergate.

When Republicans talk about voter fraud they are referring to illegal voting by individuals, as opposed to vote fraud—systematic attempts to steal an election by an organized group of partisans. This emphasis on voter fraud has convinced eight states to pass laws requiring voters to present official photo identification in order to cast a ballot—laws that studies have shown suppress Democratic turnout among voters who are poor, black, Latino, Asian-American or disabled.

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The Icing Is Iglesias
HIS FIRING IS REASON ALONE FOR CONGRESS TO IMPEACH GONZALES.

Congress could and should impeach Alberto Gonzales. One ground for doing so, as I have previously suggested (subscription required), is the attorney general's amnesiac prevarication in his testimony before the Senate and the House. But if Congress wants more, it need look no further than the firing of David Iglesias, former U.S. attorney in New Mexico. The evidence uncovered in Gonzales' Senate and House testimony demonstrates that he fired Iglesias not because of a policy disagreement or a management failure, but because Iglesias would not misuse the power of the Department of Justice in the service of the Republican Party. To fire a U.S. attorney for refusing to abuse his power is the essence of an impeachable offense.
http://www.slate.com/id/2166469/pagenum/all/
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FBI looks into possible Va. voter intimidation
Officials probing reports of phone calls aimed at confusing voters
RICHMOND, Va. - The FBI said Tuesday that it is looking into complaints that callers tried to intimidate or confuse Virginia voters in the hard-fought race between GOP Sen. George Allen and Democratic challenger Jim Webb.

State Board of Elections Secretary Jean Jensen said her office had forwarded several reports to the FBI of voters receiving phone calls intended to discourage them from voting or directing them to the wrong polling place.

Voters in a half-dozen cities and counties across the state reported getting deceptive telephone calls in the days before the election informing them falsely that their voting places had changed, Jensen said.

According to a sworn statement filed with the Board of Elections, a man said he got a phone message from the “Virginia Elections Commission” telling him that he was registered to vote in New York and would be “charged criminally” if he voted in Virginia.

Another man said in an affidavit that he got a call from a woman claiming to be helping Webb (D). He said the woman gave him an incorrect polling place address after he told her he planned to vote for Webb (D).

“She then told me that I would be voting at West Reed Street

Chris LaCivita, a consultant to the Allen campaign, said the calls did not originate with the GOP. “And it’s sure as heck not coming from the Allen campaign,” LaCivita said.

The Webb campaign said the calls were intended to confuse and discourage Virginians from voting.

“We’ve seen this tactic before and it is about time the Republicans learned that it will not work,” said Jay B. Myerson, general counsel of the Virginia Democratic Party.

New Mexico Democrats filed similar complaints in court, accusing GOP callers there of providing voters with incorrect information on polling locations in Albuquerque. A judge Monday refused to prohibit Republicans from calling voters.

In Ohio, a prosecutor also warned voters to be wary of fraudulent calls claiming that their voting precincts had been changed.

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REPUBLICANS WILL TRASH THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS TO GET IN POWER AND STAY IN POWER.

GOP=ANTI-AMERICAN


Posted by: TruthBeKnown | October 9, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Freebirdyeah:
Sorry, I was trying to keep it short, but you're right!

"The only way to real, actual world peace is to kill all religion" Ziggy Marley

In our country's brief history, only 1 was was fought that was not a direct religious war. It is a shame!

PEOPLE PLEASE: Stop the hate, go back to work! This will all be over soon.
Obama will win.
McCain will retire, and commit Cindy to rehab (again)
Palin will get imprisoned - for stupidity mostly.
Tina Fey's career will flourish because of Palin.
Cheney will 'accidently' shoot Bush on a hunting trip.

Its that simple.

Posted by: palinwasapornstar | October 9, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

PUTZrick in SARAHsota wrote:

"Food, Clothing, Shelter, Health care, education, Jobs, etc..
ARE NOT RIGHTS IN THE US CONSTITUTION"

Relax, the US Constitution wasn't passed down to Moses on Mt. Sinai. It can be improved upon or replaced.

Posted by: SAm | October 9, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Ron from Canada i agree with you 100%, look what capitalism did to this country, it takes socialism to repair the screw up from wall st

Posted by: joe | October 9, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Are there honorable Chicagoan friends in Obama's past who can vouch for his integrity? The lack/silence of these people is disturbing! Voters need to judge Obama not from his books and words alone!

Posted by: FloridaCounts | October 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Why would America REWARD complete Republican failure ?

We wont.

Posted by: PulSamsara | October 9, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA IN A LANDSLIDE FOLKS. Mc Same is downt ot lies and smears and has nothing to tell us about or any plans period. he chose Pailin the parrot who is igloo trash if you give her a break. America is ready for the candidate with intellect and integrity Barack Obama! OBAMANOS! SI SE PUEDE! YES WE WILL BRING THE CHANGE WE NEED NOW!

Posted by: Raul Pedraza | October 9, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

McCain is constantly talking about his experience and being negative about Obama with remarks like "Who is the real Barrack Obama". Well, the fact is that both candidates are ready to put their country first, but the question is who will the country put first? With so much negative attitude and campaigning, it's difficult for McCain to be President. He really needs to focus on substance, AND, FOR GOD'S SAKE, STOP PALIN FROM TALKING. She is all talk and no substance.

Posted by: tir | October 9, 2008 1:18 PM | Report abuse

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McCain has served and sacrificed for the country all his life, and any money involved in self-promotion was clean money. Obama is a relative newcomer, has a shady background, and received support from shady characters. However voters are divided about evenly in their choice for President. Anyone have an opinion on why this is the case?

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Posted by: Billw | October 9, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

" P.S. The "commie" references worked a while back, but it's old as sh*t now; find something new. Posted by: NCVoter"

You could at the very least show some attention to details. The response was to the 'real axxhole' that was quoted at the top who was in favor of giving up his gun and "my right" to protect myself.

As to the "commie" reference...

Food, Clothing, Shelter, Health care, education, Jobs, etc..

ARE NOT RIGHTS IN THE US CONSTITUTION

NoBama said "health care is a right"!

Central planners who dictate rules to redistribute income IS communism.

Democrats instituted:

The Income Tax Act
Federal Reserve Act
Social Security Act
Fair Housing Act
Freddie and Fannie
Welfare
.
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and the list goes on ad infinitum....

They have instituted most of the 13 points in Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto

Look it up and stop being ignorant.

If "you" believe in those policies, fine, say so to a candid audience.

Do masquerade as an American! You are NOT!


Food, Clothing, Shelter, Insurance, Education, freedom to "feel" safe, are NOT RIGHTS!

Read the

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

FilipinoAmerican said:
"Obama will put America among the top 5 countries with highest taxes."

You lie. Obama will restore taxes to Reagan-era levels on those making more than $250,000 per year.

Those making 200,000 to $250,000 will not see a penny of tax increase.

Those making less than 200,000 will get a tax break.

There are no new taxes. It's a Republican myth. Stupid bills that gave *temporary* tax breaks to the rich, white and corporate are set to expire, which the Dems will allow them to. Not a tax increase.

Republicans: The party of complete lies and distortion. What a craphole. By the way...good riddance. You're out of power.

Posted by: SteveCO | October 9, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Why are you Americans so afraid of socialism? We have universal health care amongst many other "socialist" services here in Canada. As a bonus we are a very prosperous nation and we haven`t had to bail out our unregulated (ours is regulated) financial sector. So where`s the beef? You people seem to believe that by electing Obama that you`re somehow going to have to give up your perceived infinite freedom. It is in my honest opinion, through a LOT of observation and by fact that Canadians actually have more freedom than our neighbours to the south. (That would be the U.S.A for those who are geographically unsure). GO OBAMA!!

Posted by: Ron | October 9, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Steven: birds of a feather flock together. It's time to get some new friends.

Posted by: Freebirdyeah | October 9, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

What I fear is having one party in control of both houses and the executive branch. I would like to think that our elected officials were doing what is best for the country, but as we had seen with this bailout, it is what is best for them. The Republicans spent like drunken sailors, I don't think it will be much different for the Democrats.

Posted by: martwbuck | October 9, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Do we REALLY KNOW John McCain?

Captured by the Commies and held for many years gave them PLENTY of time and opportunity to brainwash him. He may be America's oldest living sleeper cell and Cindy (Queen of Hearts)may be his control.

Do we REALLY KNOW John McCain?

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 9, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

No, he has NOT lost. He may win, he may lose. We won't know until election day.

I'm voting for him no matter what.

Obama worries me. Thank GOD he's got Joe Biden behind him...I just hope and pray that Obama can put aside his narcissistic ego long enough to pay attention to Biden and let him drive the car while he just sits in the passenger seat.

That's wishful thinking.

Posted by: socrates3333 | October 9, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Next time, I'll get a glue

Posted by: SAm | October 9, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Dishonest:
"The question this election clearly isn't 'who is better for the country'? To be more correct it should be; 'who will ruin the country in the least amount of time?' Answer: Obama."

No, the question this election clearly isn't, 'will Obama ruin the country' but, how will McCain continue wrecking the U.S. like his good corporate criminal and traitor buddies Bush and Cheney.

You see, the country is *already* ruined. Obama will be elected to fix what he can. Your favorite dildoes were like seventh graders. Cheney should just plain be shot on national TV for treason.

Posted by: SteveCO | October 9, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

FilipinoAmerican said:
"Obama will put America among the top 5 countries with highest taxes."

God bless him! Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Germany - I'd like nothing better than to be in their company.

Hey, how about moving to Manila? I bet the taxes are lower there and you can have as many shoes as your heart desires

Posted by: Sam | October 9, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

familyautos wrote, "I got three big words for you...Ayers Rezko and cigarettes...which Obama still smokes...an awful lot of crap in only ten years. Compare that to McCain's thirty year career an all you can come up with is...KEATING? Please, this is your brain on Obama Fever..."

Winston Churchill smoked like a stovepipe, nice big cigars. Mark Twain: "It's easy to quit smoking. I've done it hundreds of times."
Adolf Hitler was a non-smoker, btw.
Obama was a kid during the 1960s and early 1970s. I met Nixon once in 1972 as a school kid, so I suppose that makes me party to Watergate?
The Keating5, of which John McCain is one of the five, was responsible for the most reckless financial deregulation in the history of the United States, with direct implications in not only the Enron scandal but the current mess in our money markets today.

Next time, get a clue.

Posted by: theantibush | October 9, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin can't sell their platform because even they realize that they have no substantive policies to present which differ significantly from those of the Bush years.

So instead they rely on instilling fear and hatred of somebody who is "different", a philosophy that is consistent with the history of the extreme right of the GOP. They are all about morality, but care nothing about ethics.

Posted by: labman57 | October 9, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

McCaine's problem is --- HIMSELF !

Old McFART is blowing himself up - - it is called ''SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION'' !!!!

- - never thaught I would live to see the phenom !!!!!

Posted by: BS BUSTER | October 9, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

McCain will never fill his daddy's or grand-daddy's shoes and isn't this what his whole adult life has been about - Give it up John - I'm sure daddy is proud of you anyway

Posted by: Truth | October 9, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Current FAA guidelines require mandatory retirement of airline pilots at age 60 due to potential age-related hazards. In some countries the age is 65 which is probably more appropriate.

Then again these pilots probably know how to send an email and have an experienced copilot.

A friend recently mentioned that his Grandpa (whom he truly loves) is seventy-two and he falls asleep at the dinner table. Nothing wrong with a little dinner table nap for most Americans but President?

A four-year commitment would mean a seventy-six year old President. We're not talking about congressperson or Senator or even airline pilot. We're talking about THE MOST DEMANDING JOB ON THE PLANET, President of the United States of America.

Daily speaking engagements, TRAVEL REQUIREMENTS, meetings with foreign leaders.

Where McC showed such a lack of judgment was in choosing a nice looking but very inexperienced copilot.

What is more realistic than the "one heart beat away" discussion is the "very realistic" discussion that McC could potentially lose the vigor needed for "the most demanding job on the planet". This would leave SP (someone that even well respected Republican Senators say is not qualified) in charge.

Not ageist. Just Realist.

Posted by: RealityCheck | October 9, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Patrick in Sarasota -
Are you trying to be a troll, or are you really this stupid? I know you can't be a New College kid. I doubt you could even be at USF. MCC?

1st Amendment
no establishment of religion - global warming

A scientific consensus does not a religion make

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

You do realize that ending thw war with Iraq doesn't mean that the money we're spending (it's mostly borrowed, and we, the people have to pay it back) for the war, won't be available for other purposes, don't you? It's a ridiculous assertion for anyone to suggest that the money we're spending on the war could be better speabt elsewhere. Arguably this statement is true, however; the funds would have to be legislated, and they would still have to be borrowed. My point is, that unless we start heading toward a "pay as you go" system, no President, no administration, can make any sort of meaningful change. Overwhelmingly, America's Citizens feel that government should "stop spending". Certainly, the public opposition against the Wall Street bailout is evidence of this fact. Only one candidate has even suggested a "freeze" on spending, and it wasn't Barack Obama! Folks, when you figure out what it is you really want, pick a candidate that has tendencies in the same direction. Never elect a candidate he runs for office telling you he'll cut taxes, while he's telling you he'll increase spending. There are no huge caches of government money stashed away for this sort of government, your taxes and those of your children and grand children will have to pay for all of these programs. Many who are falling behind financially seem to forget (depending on what state you live in) that 30 to 50% of their income is confiscated by federal, state and local taxation. It hardly makes sense to elect a candidate who promises more expanded programs, and new public works and infrastructure programs providng government jobs, and then be told that 95% of the population will have lower taxes. Here's a clue, less than 95% of the United States population is either gainfully employed or tax payers to begin with.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness
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Really? So where did all those billions to bail out Wall Street come from?? Your arguement holds no water. We WILL save money when we move our troops out of Iraq, we will no longer have to spend our money (and borrow money from the Chinese) on an unnecessary war that never should have been. What is going on there now is a direct result of Pres Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeldt, and McCain's ill-advised decisions. The Iraqis need to get their heads together and their acts together and run their own country. We cannot babysit them forever! McCain boasts he KNOWS how to win wars and he KNOWS how to catch Bin Laden. Really?? If he is so "gifted", what the heck are we still doing in Iraq and Afghanistan?? Why in the heck hasn't he made sure Bin Laden was caught?? Has McCain been withholding his "gifted knowledge" just in case he wins the presidency and then he'd end the wars and catch Bin Laden?? IF so, he is a horrible person!! Continuing to put our military people in harm's way, killing over 4,000 troops and injuring thousands upon thousands while he KNOWS HOW TO WIN WARS AND HOW TO CATCH BIN LADEN ARE EXTREMELY SELFISH AND PROVES McCAIN IS OUT FOR McCAIN AND NOT OUR COUNTRY, OUR MILITARY, OR OUR PEOPLE!! Yesterday, McCain stated he KNOWS how to end the economy crisis and that he will deliver. Really? Like running to Washington DC saying he had suspended his campaign until the bill was passed?? Really? like trying to delay the fisrt debate until the bill was passed?? The man is so confused, he doesn't know what the heck he is talking about and from the way he was wandering around on stage during the debate while Senator Obama spoke, looks like he doesn't know where he is most of the time!! Not the first time he has gotten lost on stage, by the way!

Bottom line, McCain KNOWS how to START wars, he does NOT KNOW how to END them. McCain does NOT KNOW how to catch Bin Laden. McCain does NOT KNOW how to END the Economic Crisis---he knows NOTHING about the economy so how can he deliver?? McCain is a tired, bitter, old man who is delusional and the frightening thing is that some people actually believe his BS!!

Posted by: NinaK | October 9, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Brianpensacola wrote:

"I believe that this country is made of mostly kind and intelligent people"

Yes, Brian, I too think Denmark is wonderful.


Posted by: SAm | October 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

This country is going to the dogs. Obama will put America among the top 5 countries with highest taxes. Corporate taxes at the highest, payroll taxes to double, jobs will move abroad, union will stagnate production. You can celebrate Obamas as 1st black president for what?

Posted by: Filipino American | October 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

We need to get rid of the two party political system. It does not work. We end up being stuck with voting for the lesser of two evils every time. Look at the two we are stuck with this time around? I want to vote for someone I believe really cares about Americans and actually work to bring about a positive American and that person is Ron Paul!

Posted by: Chris | October 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

For J. Deddens:
I'm assuming you voted for our current fearless leader. I have some questions for you.
1. President Bush claims to be a Christian. In fact he has won a lot of votes by wearing his religion so openly on his sleeve. Can you tell me what George Bush has done since becoming President that reflects Jesus' sermon on the mount?
2. Sarah Palin says that the war in Iraq is a mission from God. How does God speak to the Governor? Is Jesus in favor of the Iraq war?
3. In 2000, when George Bush lied about his drunk driving, did that cause you to pause at all or is it okay for Republicans to keep things from the American public?
4. Are you bothered that our first lady killed someone drunk driving?
5. Does it bother you that our Vice President will not tell the public who visits him or who helped write our "energy policy"?
6.Do you believe that Palin's daughter will actually marry if the Republicans lose in November?
7. After 8 years now of the Bush Doctrine, do you think that our aggression in Iraq has anything to do with influencing Russia to invade Georgia?
8. Does it bother you that Gov. Palin prays for the end of days? Speaks in tongues? Uses a prayer to protect her from witchcraft?
9. If Al Gore had been President in 2001 and he was given a memo that stated that Bin Laden was determined to strike inside the U.S., would you be as forgiving of him if he stated, like Bush did, "Okay, you've covered your rear now" and continued with his vacation? Would the media?

Posted by: Bill | October 9, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

i am a republican and mccain is pulling the same political tactics that bush used effectively. i have lost respect for mccain however - time after time, he has sold out ethics and "country 1st" for tactical political gain. 1st a unqualified VP pick, now aggressive smearing...

Posted by: steve | October 9, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"People like you derserve what you are going to get if Obama wins."

Coming from a supporter of the worst criminal traitor for president in the lifetime of the U.S., your opinion carries as much weight as a feather. NOTHING could be worse than Bush III McCain.

Posted by: SteveCO | October 9, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Patrick in Sarasota - You're an idiot. If you white supremist trash think you can hold onto your guns and inflict your violence on this society, you're living in a fantasy land. Harm another liberal, keep advocating the killing of Obama, and this society WILL shoot you dead and pry those guns from your cold dead hands, you and every other race baiting piece of trash that composes the whole of the NRA membership. Gun ownership is something for responsible citizens. It has beome abundantly clear that Palin's howling mob are a collection of animals, irreponsible nut cases, that have lost any right to own guns or anything more deadly than a plastic spoon. Something like 40% of gun owners in this country are political liberals. The dirty little secret is, if we abandon you clodhappers, gun confiscation laws will pass overwhelmingly and overnight. A lot of us are considering doing just that.

Posted by: Mike In Oregon | October 9, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

If you're not only willing, but enthusiastic about getting up in front of thousands of people to spew vile lies, your character comes through loud and clear as well as those of the ones who adore you and cheer you on.

McCain and Palin went negative because thats where they like it.

Says alot.

Posted by: John Baggadonuts | October 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Dear Patrick the Gun Nut,

Just curious . . . how many of your guns were confiscated by the federal government during the commie, pinko, america-hating, un-patriotic, military-hating Clinton Administration??

You are living in a state of delusion.

Posted by: John | October 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Tom Gosinski, a young Republican, kept a detailed journal while working as director of government affairs for the charity. "I am working for a very sad, lonely woman whose marriage of convenience to a U.S. senator has driven her to . . . cover feelings of despair with drugs," he wrote in 1992. When Cindy McCain suddenly fired Gosinski, he turned his journal over to the Drug Enforcement Administration, sparking a yearlong investigation. To avoid jail time, Cindy agreed to a hush-hush plea bargain and court-imposed rehab.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Eisenhower was both a Vet and a President who hated war... McCain is a Vet who wants to be president and likes war. (Bomb Iran)...

We don't really want this angry psycho for President of anything.

Posted by: AngryVet | October 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain's problems?

Knowin Keatin'
Not knowin' William Ayers
Bein' a Republican
Not bein' a cammunitee organizer.
Knowin' George Bush
Pickin' Sarah Palin
Not pickin' Tina Fey
Runnin' after livin' so long
Bein' the Manchurian Candidate

Posted by: bgreen2224 | October 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Below democrat Gregory Meeks of NY speaks in favor of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2005. The republicans were trying to reign in the institutions but the Democrats stood in the way. Notice the Post has not reported on this scandal as there are in bed with Obama.

MEEKS: As well as the fact that I'm just pissed off at OFHEO, because if it wasn't for you, I don't think that we'd be here in the first place, and now the problem that we have and that we're faced with is: maybe some individuals who wanted to do away with GSEs in the first place, you've given them an excuse to try to have this forum so that we can talk about it and maybe change the, uh, the direction and the mission of what the GSEs had, which they've done a tremendous job. There's been nothing that was indicated that's wrong, you know, with Fannie Mae! Freddie Mac has come up on its own. And the question that then presents is the competence that -- that -- that -- that your agency uh, uh, with reference to, uh, uh, deciding and regulating these GSEs. Uh, and so, uh, I wish I could sit here and say that I'm not upset with you, but I am very upset because, you know, what you do is give -- you know, maybe giving any reason to, as Mr. Gonzales said, to give someone a heart surgery when they really don't need it.

Posted by: Pablo | October 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"It is also a fact, that this 5% creates 90-95% of all American jobs. Here is the fun part Barack, if you raise the taxes on this top 5%, the results may be disastrous. It seems almost inevitable, that the number of newly created jobs will drop and the number of unemployed will rise and this would be quite opposite from what we need and deserve in America."
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fedupwithdems, those number may be correct, but that is before all the loopholes they have to lower the burden. I only wish I could slash away my tax burden. In addition, new created jobs? Yeah, like the tax breaks Bush gave to rich corporations have really trickled down to new jobs. It seems more like a tinkle down.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 9, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Senator McCain hasn't lost yet. But conservatives have.

Can you imagine a conservative supporting a candidate who just voted for a $700 billion bailout and then going to the last debate and stating he'd like to spend another $300 billion? I guess they still support Senator McCain because they hope he's just trying to buy votes and doesn't really mean it.

Clearly, Senator Obama is the steady hand. Unless we stop spending $10 billion a month in Iraq, we're out of money to do anything. We can print more money, but that doesn't make it worth the paper it's printed on.

Posted by: amaikovich | October 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

"He'll be impeached for incompetence before the end of his term for lack of leadership"

If that were true, Dubya would have been impeached the minute after he was sworn in as president.

I don't see your problem: You may fear Obama's incompetence, but you already *know* the treasonous and criminal nature of Bush and Cheney, and *McCain is a clone of Bush.*

Talk about scary. Talk about incompetent. McCain added to Palin equals zero.

Posted by: SteveCO | October 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Democrats need to win by a large margin. Republican operatives are fueling massive efforts to eliminate votes. See democracynow,org.


Posted by: rooster54 | October 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

I believe that this country is made of mostly kind and intelligent people that don't truly believe that a man's name makes him a terrorist. I find it hard to believe that Senator Mccain has the mental or physical fortitude to run the senate much less the country and as far as the utter disrespect for a collegue it was disgusting and unprofessional at best.

Posted by: Brianpensacola | October 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Below Democrat Maxine Walters speaks out against Republicans who were warning about Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in 2005. Notice the Post has not reported this because they are in bed with the Democrats:

"There were nearly a dozen hearings where we were trying to fix something that wasn't broke. Mr Chairman, we do not have a crisis at Freddie Mac and particularly at Fannie Mae under the outstanding leadership of Mr Franklin Raines."


Posted by: Pablo | October 9, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

. I am deeply concerned about the rallies Ms Palin has been hosting. If someone in her rally were to attempt to assassinate Mr Obama - what would she say then- a wimpie "we don't support this type of action". She is a hateful Xenophobe, someone who wants an all-white ‘Amurcun’- only United States. My relatives were slaughtered by someone like that in WWII. His name was Adolf Hitler. As my mother used to say- never permit people to say bad things about the Jews- because when you leave, they will say bad things about blacks, Irish, Italians, Poles, etc. My mom was right. So here I am saying to Sarah Palin, John McCain and ALL their supporters, it is one thing to bring associations like Ayers or Wright to people's attention, it is another thing entirely to condone or not be OUTRAGED at those people at their rallies who believe that "hanging him" is the way to honorably win a presidency. IT IS NOT. Nor is it the America I recognize at all- Sarah's right I don't see America as she sees it - and thank God I don't.

Posted by: M E R | October 9, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

J-Deddens,
You call Ayers and his wife terrorists. Doesn't the United States have a policy on countries that harbor terrorists? Doesn't that mean we should now begin carpet bombing ourselves for the sake of the "War on Terror"? How paradoxical. Think of the money we could save on transporting troops over to the middle east when we could fight the same war here.

Posted by: What? | October 9, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting how the McCain campaign has redefined the lowest depths of political strategy. In this case, we don't have too much "Willie Horton" strategy, but we have desperate, absurd pandering (example - selection of Palin) and incredible dumbing down of messages.

As a Barack supporter, I can still say that his campaign has taken more of the low road than I would have hoped, but in comparison to McCain, he looks like Mother Teresa.

Still, as David Broder writes, circumstances are more responsible for where we stand than the candidates or their campaigns. Regardless, I will be very surprised if the winner breaks 300 electoral votes.

Posted by: Matt | October 9, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Cindy McCain,I was vomiting the all time she was talking yesterday, the way she dresses she looks like a character from star treck for a minute i thought she was a klinon

Posted by: don | October 9, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

The Democratic Party is a big tent party. It attracts people with diverse backgrounds and viewpoints. The Republican Party is a small tent party. Its tent consists of a white sheet with two holes cut out to see through.

Posted by: hamishdad | October 9, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Fact: Obama made the racist Reverend Wright his spiritual advisor, sat in that radical church for TWENTY YEARS while they all ranted about what a piece of stinking dung America is and how they are going to take money from whites to pay blacks reparations, THEN HE LIED TO ALL OF OUR FACES ABOUT IT, and the leftist mainstream media did all they could to minimize it and make it a non-issue.
Fact: Obama has a friendly, political, and working relationship with unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers, AND HE LIED TO ALL OF OUR FACES ABOUT IT, saying that he is only some guy that lives in his neighborhood.
Give me a break. Does ANYONE, even the most staunch Obama supporter HONESTLY BELIEVE that Obama sat in that church for TWENTY, yes TWENTY years, and never heard the Reverend Wright speaking in the way that he is and always has been most FAMOUS for speaking???
I won't even talk about Tony Rezco, because that's all about money, which for the sake of my argument, I can even give Obama a temporary pass on, because THEY ALL TAKE MONEY (politicians).
Fact: The second that Obama no longer saw upside in his alignments with these dispicable entities, he pushed them under the bus and tried (quite successfully so far with the mainstream media in his tank) to distance himself from them. Sounds like just the kind of guy that I want to entrust my precious country to, doesn't it? A guy that says what he needs to to get what he wants from you, then turns his back on you when it no longer suits him. We, the American people have now become his next victim. Listening on the edge of our seats while he promises us the world, so he can just do what his past actions prove he will do once he gets what he is looking for... our vote.
Given: Barack is an AMAZING speaker. He has a whole bunch of wonderful ideas that sound just super. Super-Duper, in fact.
But it just doesn't matter. Anybody who has enough sense to understand that they should be basing their decision to cast their vote not on the promises (almost always empty) of any politician, but on the man that has displayed that he will DO THE RIGHT THING for those that he has been entrusted to serve, would not even give Obama a second look. That's because he just doesn't deserve one.
If you Obama-tron droids want to program yourselves to pretend that this guy should be taken at his word for NO OTHER REASON except that his WORDS SOUND GOOD, then go ahead. Throw common sense out the window, and march to the droning chants of "Change". Good luck with that.
Certainly no Republican's Republican, John McCain has clashed quite severely with his own party whenever he truly believed in something. Campaign finance reform, immigration, environmental issues, interrogation techniques... He has proven that he is willing to stand up and be the unpopular one if it is for what he thinks is right. He never chose the easy path of chumming up to whomever could help get him someplace, just to stab them in the back when he got there.
Imagine the image of Barack Obama standing up in the middle of theTrinity United Church and stating his discontent with what he is hearing and seeing while Reverend Wright is spewing his racist, anti-American rhetoric and the congregation is cheering him on. Yeah, just picture that one. Or picture Obama grilling Bill Ayers about his terrorist activities while he sits Ayers house discussing how to launch his political career. Now keep picturing it, because that's the only place you're ever gonna see it... in your imagination.
I'll go into that booth in November and cast my one little vote, not for the candidate that charmed me the most with his exciting catch phrases, or his wonderfully articulated visions of a utopian one world paradise, but for the man that has proven time and time again that he will do his very best to watch my back, even if it costs him everything. The man that when subjected to the most inhumane forms of physical, mental, and emotional torture, did not accept his jailors offer to go ahead of his fellow men and return home, but instead chose to pay the ultimate price and face guaranteed, continued and accelerated torture, and quite possibly death, rather than take the place of other serviceman that had been there longer. There is only one man in this presidential race with that kind of fortitude and integrity. I don't need to tell you who he is. You already know.
Now wake up and get ready to pull that lever in November. It's the only chance that any of us have got to put the right guy in charge of our precious country and our way of life.

Posted by: Chuck | October 9, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Pretty clear that Patrick in Sarasota is on the losing end of an argument based on his anger and name calling. You represent your ideology well Patrick. This is why you are in the 20% minority, which is where you rightly belong. Have a nice day.

Posted by: John | October 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

NoBama and the Democrats do not believe in the US Constitution:

Need some Proof?

1st Amendment
promote the restricting free speech - fairness doctrine, Obama tried to use the police to arrest advertisers in Missouri for "unfair ads".

1st Amendment
no establishment of religion - global warming

2nd Amendment
promote registration and confiscation of guns - NoBama's Illinois voting record, and Clinton, Kennedy, 4 liberal Supreme Justices etc.

5th Amendment
promote confiscation of private property - SCOTUS case - New London, Progressive taxes, land rights restrictions, etc.

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Below you will read how McCain spoke out against Fannie and Freddie in 2005. He predicted what would happen. We need someone like him to lead. Notice the Post did not report on McCain's words below because they are in bed with Obama:

"For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac-known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs-and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.

I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.
I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation."

Posted by: Pablo | October 9, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Promisses promisses...

Posted by: FireExtinguisher | October 9, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

"I DIDN'T REALLY LOVE AMERICA."
John McCain

Edited out of interview on Fox.
WHY DID FOX CUT MCCAIN'S STATEMENTS FROM THE TELEVISED VERSION?
MEDIA BIAS???? YOU TELL ME.....

http://mccain.indranet.com

McCain said he didn't love America before he was a prisoner...
he didn't love America when he joined the Navy, when he dropped bombs on people, when he got paid with taxpayers money...
and probably when he voted...

I know what McCain meant when he said that, he didn't realize what he had. But that didn't stop doucebag Palin at the Convention who referenced that Michele Obama didn't appreciate America before she.... isn't that the same thing?

Why are Republicans such hypocrites?

Posted by: TrueAmerican | October 9, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

McCain brags constantly about his experience and military record. Some of it is true, but not all of it. Reading Mary Hershberger's "Investigating John McCain's Tragedy at Sea" is very revealing - see www.truthdig.com

Posted by: dschff | October 9, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Change you can believe in as translated into numbers.
I will lower taxes for 95% of American people, and raise the taxes only for the top 5% of the tax payers, says Obama.
It is a fact, that top 1% of tax payers carry 38-40% of all income tax burden and it is a fact, that top 5% of tax payers pay approximately 55-60% of all federal income taxes. It is also a fact, that this 5% creates 90-95% of all American jobs. Here is the fun part Barack, if you raise the taxes on this top 5%, the results may be disastrous. It seems almost inevitable, that the number of newly created jobs will drop and the number of unemployed will rise and this would be quite opposite from what we need and deserve in America.
Lets look at the wider picture. It is a fact, that top 50% of all tax payers carry approximately 97% of all income tax burden, which points out to the conclusion, that the bottom 50% of all American taxpayers pay 3% of all federal income taxes. If this true, it is probably safe to estimate, that 40-45% of the bottom 50% are net income receivers, and pay no taxes at all. How can they be given tax breaks when they pay no taxes at all? Obama's tax plan may appeal to many, who at first, will see more money coming to them, but with time, they will also notice their expenditures going up and their investments declining, but then folks, it will be too late.
The change we can believe in, may soon became THE CHANGE WE CAN COUNT.

Posted by: fedupwithdems | October 9, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Bill Ayers was not ever charged with any crime for heaven's sake.

Why on earth are republican voters so ignorant they don't know that? He was part of a protest movement after the murder of black people in Chicago by the police.

In Kent state the army massacred 4 students in cold blood for daring to protest.

Some of you need to learn some history.

The Vietnam war and the years around it were horrendous in the US and Australia. Here we had cops bashing kids for protesting - my 15 year old sister was pushed down stairs by a cop and had all her teeth broken out of her head.

Protestors and objectors were jailed here and in the US because the Vietnam war was an atrocity of mammoth proportions and was all based on lies.

Sound familiar?

Posted by: Marilyn | October 9, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Rant, Rove, and Rave all you want, but McCain is STILL the biggest loser. He's gonna lose by a landslide and when Sarah goes home to Alaska, she's gonna have to face the music for all the stuff uncovered during the campaign.

Americans are standing up and voting for themselves and their country instead of being herded into electing republicans again. Yeah America!

Republicans have almost destroyed our fantastic country in just 8 years of abuse! No more! Vote Obama/Biden!

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | October 9, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

What it comes down to is character. BOTH candidates are trying in different ways to distance themselves from the Bush administration, BOTH are pitching economic plans that involve massive cash expenditure in some way, and BOTH are trying to wave the "change" flag -- albeit different colors. I just see McCain as being a better person to have in the White House, and his record is far more solid than Obama's. I don't trust Obama's history at all, and McCain put on a weak show the other night by not pressing this. Had he used his last word to simply say: "My friends, let me just say this: Ayers, ACORN, Mrs. Obama's true feelings about America, and the Reverend... Thank you, and vote McCain/Palin for a stronger future" he would have left a much more effective mark -- as opposed to just swimming around in circles alongside Obama the whole time (which was really all Barack had to do.) And as for this whole "change" thing? If we really want to get down to the meat of it, Obama just plain has NO history of even going against his party at all -- no big initiatives, no strong opinions, nothing. I see Barack Obama as just another Deval Patrick (the governer of MA) on a larger scale. Coincidentally, I believe Axelrod has been behind both campaigns... At any rate, two years on and the Patrick administration (which also ran on a campaign of "hope" and "change") has still accomplished NOTHING positive -- in one of the most liberal states in the union nonetheless! On another topic, Palin may not be the most seasoned candidate, but to me that just means she's closer to the people. I get frustrated when the media and Obama/Biden supporters bash on her, because she's stuck in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation. She's got the same length of public service time as Obama, but she's NOT a "Washington insider", which means she's an excellent option if you really want change, but this same point is also used against her to say that she doesn't have the worldly knowledge of a senator. Of course not! She hasn't had to up to this point. And don't forget; Obama's been working this president thing for two years now. She's been on the job 6 weeks. Overall I think she's doing pretty good -- which means she should be quick to pickup on the larger demands of VP. I hope McCain uses this last debate to absolutely pick Obama apart.

Posted by: Jeff C from NH | October 9, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

FAT CHANCE.

You will have to remove them from my cold dead hands!

And the hands that protect your pinko, pacifist, commie ungrateful dolts who can't postpone gratification and petition government for all your needs.

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota
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Wow, so angry... did someone not get any hugs when growing up? How are you going to feel when a black guy is the President of this country? (Just thought I'd have you answer that while you're in this fit of honest rage here.) When I hear ignorant a*sholes like you give no reason to moderation (i.e. responsible, regulated gun ownership) it pushes me further away from even wanting to own up to any of my fiscally conservative tendencies. People like you and your ilk have overrun the GOP and turned it into a stinking pile of illogical crap.

P.S. The "commie" references worked a while back, but it's old as sh*t now; find something new. Try going with something that's actually TRUE as well.

Posted by: NCVoter | October 9, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Seeing Cindy McCain on the attack against the Democratic Nominee for the office of President was disappointing and enlightening. Disappointing because I have never envisioned Cindy
McCain as an "attack dog". Enlightening because one gets to see how pathetic the John McCain campaign really is. Please Cindy, spear us the wisdom and sorrow of your pathetic little multi million dollar life and need to be "First Lady".

Posted by: Hedcutter | October 9, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I live as I said before up the street from Mccains office. I am surrounded by people that are just like Concerned Grandmother They are out of touch and well simply put off their freaking rockers.
BTW Before someone accuses me of just being another African American thats voting for one of my own. I am white 45 and have a mind of my own.
With that said This is a excellent story that was posted on CNNpolitics.com Its titled:
Commentary: Why Ayers case is risky for McCain-Palin
By Roland Martin
CNN Contributor
Editor's Note: A nationally syndicated columnist and Chicago-based radio host, Roland Martin has said he will vote for Barack Obama in November. He is the author of "Listening to the Spirit Within: 50 Perspectives on Faith" and "Speak, Brother! A Black Man's View of America." Visit his Web site for more information.


Roland Martin says blasting one person's associations can boomerang.

(CNN) -- During the Democratic primaries, I wrote a column for CNN.com about how easy it is for any candidate to tar and feather another about their associations with less-than-acceptable figures.

Sen. Hillary Clinton tried to blast Sen. Barack Obama for unsolicited comments made by Nation of Islam leader Minister Louis Farrakhan, and folks like Fox News' Sean Hannity were happy to run with it, saying it was evidence that the junior senator from Illinois was unfit to be president.

But critics like Hannity never bothered to raise the issue of former Republican vice-presidential candidate Jack Kemp praising Farrakhan for his focus on self-help. Not only that, nearly everyone in the media was afraid to bring up the fact that Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell had high praise for Farrakhan when Rendell was mayor of Philadelphia, even as the Muslim leader sat just 20 feet away!

Again, blasting one person's associations can come back to bite you.

We now see Gov. Sarah Palin and the McCain campaign trying to stir the pot by invoking William Ayers, a 1960s radical who was a major figure in the Weather Underground, a group that bombed the Pentagon and committed other unspeakable acts of terrorism against their own country.

Palin has been hammering home the point on the campaign trail that Obama and Ayers were friends, "palling around" the Windy City, even though the Weather Underground committed these crimes when Obama was just a child. And never mind the fact that Ayers and Obama were involved in a multimillion-dollar education grant that was funded by a right-wing Republican, media magnate Walter Annenberg. Do you hear any of them castigating this late Republican pillar?

The McCain camp, along with their right-wing media comrades, want to convince you that Obama should not have decided to serve with Ayers, who was named the Citizen of the Year in Chicago in 1987 for his education work, and who is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Now, if someone was seen as an acceptable figure by business, political and education figures, many of whom support both Democrats and Republicans, should Obama be faulted for sitting on a board with the guy?

So, let's use that same logic and apply it to McCain.

Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., a Democrat from Chicago who serves as one of the national co-chairs for Obama, told me on The Tom Joyner Morning Show that if we are to use the association tag as evidence of a candidate being unfit for president, what about McCain serving and working alongside people with virulent bigoted pasts like Sens. Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmond and Robert Byrd?

Do we have evidence that these individuals committed specific acts against African-Americans during Jim Crow? No. But we do know that their hateful words, and willingness to uphold laws that were absolutely anti-American, did not represent the best of this nation.

Thurmond ran for president as a Dixiecrat in 1948 with a platform of maintaining segregation. Based on Helms' policies, he didn't see blacks as full Americans.

Bombing the Pentagon is horrible and indefensible. But declaring yourself a patriot while you speak such hateful and venomous words against your own countrymen, who just happen to be black, and then trying to oppress them, is just as indefensible.

So, did McCain work with them? Did he not speak with them? Should McCain have declared that he would not work alongside these men because of their past? Should the self-described maverick who believes in integrity and character have taken the honorable stance of resigning from the Senate to protest these hateful characters serving in the U.S. Senate?

No. And this is why this association argument is so weak and impotent.

For goodness' sakes, Byrd was once a member of the Ku Klux Klan, a domestic terrorist organization!

Posted by: Stuck In Mccains State | October 9, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Kenny,
Do you really think quoting from your mythological fairy tale is going to sway anyone? You do realize the bible is quite clear on the earth having four corners (in other words, being flat) and sitting immobile at the center of the universe?

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Magda 1 @October 9, 2008 12:34 PM

and what do you have: NO BRAIN. Recite the republican version of the LORD"S PRAYER

Lord, which is in heavens. Frome these heavens throw down 20 pounds of BRAIN and try hard, very hard to hit Gov Palin and MAGDA1 with it

Amen

Posted by: John | October 9, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

To jdeddens: you have got to be kidding. I mean, you are seriously trying to claim that Obama is causing people to go into bankruptcy because they donated to his campaign using their credit cards? What, did Obama fail to help an elderly grandmother cross the street, too? Maybe he has even committed the dastardly crime of ripping a tag off his mattress.

If this is all the ammunition the Republifools have left, I have to agree that Barack Obama has won the election.

And no, Barack Obama's college education was not paid for by some shadowy terrorist organization, either. And the grooves on your Reverend Wright record are wearing right through to the other side. Your "questions" are so lame I almost feel sorry for you...

Posted by: Steve | October 9, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain, has shown no fresh ideas, no realization of the suffering and dishonor that the GW Bush admininstation has done to our country, no understanding of how globalization and deregulation of banks and huge corporations have undermined American labor and our economy, no grasp of how important and expensive health care is for the average family, no ideas about educationg our children so that they will be able to compete in the future.

Personally, he has shown no warmth, no grace, no humor.

And fear mongering is a ploy that most Americans, have, at long last caught on to.

Yeah, he's lost already.

Posted by: Madeleine | October 9, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Palinwasapornstar: You forgot to mention the Inquisition as one of the highlights of medieval Christianity. And what about the Christian ministers and popes who were slaveowners or otherwise sanctioned that ignoble and murderous institution in the name of a righteous God? No one really knows how many people were killed just in the transport of human beings. For those who don't know, Religion sucks. P.S. God is not a member of any religion.

Posted by: Freebirdyeah | October 9, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

for those concerned about a poor kid who got a great education when some think it had to include questionable money from bad sources..my kid, single parent household, worked hard for grades and got scholarship help, bachelor degree from one of the best schools in the country, masters degree from an even better school, super position now, and talking about doctorate degree...it can be done if the person wants it and they don't sign up with the devil (so shut up). They work hard. Try it. I'm proud of both Mr and Mrs Obama, They are showing so much class

Posted by: i'magranmatoo | October 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

In May 2001, McCain was one of only two Senate Republicans to vote against the Bush tax cuts.

Now McCain supports them?

Senator McCain the Maverick .... R.I.P.

Posted by: notaxcuts | October 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

More McCaint Moments......

"...my fellow prisoners"
McCaint Rally Wednesday in Pennsylvania...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYFm5kK4f1k&NR=1

take a good look at peeeuuu Palin...no response.....

I guess it went thru her empty skull like wind thru a tunnel....

And McCaint's past connections are coming back to haunt him as well...

A delegate who represented McCaint at the convention name...Marylin Shannon expressed sympathy for an activist who shot a doctor who performed abotions in Kansas.

Using the same logic that the GOP is using we can conclude that since members of the GOP are palling around with abortion clinic attack sympathizers they are supporters of right wing militants. McCain, in 1994 opposed a law that made it a federal crime to bomb or blockade abortion clinics.

In 1992 he addressed the ultra far right Oregon's Citizens Alliance.

He spoke at their convention and had kind words for an anti-abortionist activist who shot the doctor in both arms and bombed abortion clinics in Kansas.

He stated "She's a fine lady".

This fine lady was convicted of bombing clinics and of shooting the doctor.

At the time of sentencing the judge called her a domestic terrorist.

Another association of Sen. McCaint that tells much about his character.

His defense of "poor judgement" how many times are we going to hear this excuse for his pathetic and strange behavior.

...probably as many times as he calls the American public..."my friends"

I see the glass as fully broken and McCaint just cut his foot on it......
Comment on: Battling Through Battleground States at 10/9/2008 8:28 AM EDT
McCaint's past connections are coming back to haunt him.

A delegate who represented McCaint at the convention name MARYLIN SHANNON expressed sympathy for an activist who shot a doctor who performed abotions in Kansas.

Using the same logic that the GOP is using we can conclude that since members of the GOP are palling around with abortion clinic attack sympathizers they are supporters of right wing militants. McCain, in 1994 opposed a law that made it a federal crime to bomb or blockade abortion clinics.

In 1992 he addressed the ultra far right Oregon's Citizens Alliance.

He spoke at their convention and had kind words for an anti-abortionist activist who shot the doctor in both arms and bombed abortion clinics in Kansas.

He stated "She's a fine lady".

This fine lady was convicted of bombing clinics and of shooting the doctor.

At the time of sentencing the judge called her a domestic terrorist.

Another association of Sen. McCaint that tells much about his character.

His defense of "poor judgement" how many times are we going to hear this excuse for his pathetic and strange behavior.

...probably as many time he call the American public..."my friends"

Posted by: AlexP1 | October 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait till this shiz is over.

Posted by: bennyboo | October 9, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Dems tax and spend - pay now
Reps borrow and spend - pay later with interest

What do financial planners tell you... pay off your credit card first... so for financial soundness which do you vote for?

Posted by: Margie | October 9, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

OH yeah!
He lost when the financial meltdown and his own stupidity merged into one.
All he has left now is try to wave Saracuda's stinky 'asset' into to wind. No class at all.
Now, salute President Obama.

Posted by: Nelson | October 9, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Many of you are hateful, rude, and disrespectful dolts, that would be slapped upside your head if you ever uttered the comments made here in private to anyone in public.

More groupie comments from those following the band of...

Messiah Master Koolaid Mixer - NoBama - and the Democrat Lemmings

Fly over Americans see these lefty comments for what they are; draped in cowardice and biased ideology masquerading as intelligence by promoting Socialism and division.

Clearly many of you did not learn all you need in the sandbox!

Ok children, now repeat after me....

Mayor Sarah Palin, Governor Sarah Palin, Vice President Sarah Palin

Senator John McCain, President John McCain


Get used to it!

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

McCain’s problem: He’s become a career politician, riding a snow machine….with Obama we know he has virtually no experience. That might be exactly what the executive branch needs right now. To be simple, prejudged, power-hungry and accountable. We will have to support him in foreign affairs. Politically, he will be a sugar coated ham dropped in a wolf-pack.
Now what about choice. The GOP conspired and fell behind McCain as the sellable product. We listened and responded to the box of Obama as the consumer choice of the Demos. So they’ve repackaged and trimmed and blinded and photoshopped the two products until we’re down to these bipolar diseases. Pick one, and hope, pray and work for the best result. Roll on, oh big blue marble.

Posted by: loadstah | October 9, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

I fail to see anything "Christian" about Sarah Palin inciting crowds to violence toward Senator Obama. Any so-called "Christian" who can still support the McCain ticket after this past week, is a hypocrite.

I'm a Christian too and people who can condemn abortion, without condemning poverty, outsourcing of parents' jobs, Wall Street Greed, intolerance, and obscene wealth has no understanding of Jesus Christ!

Posted by: Risejugger | October 9, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

"Well Obama is going to be elected.
THIS IS WILL STILL BE ONE NATION UNDER GOD. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT! LEAVE!"
.............................
DougH1, did you know that was the original language of Plegde? It

http://www.religioustolerance.org/nat_pled1.htm

Wow, for some Americans, everything changes and nothing changes.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 9, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

To whoever Believe in God is:
God is revealed to us in His Word, in each of our hearts, and nature. This what God says, I agree with God.
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19 because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21 because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality,[a] wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving,[b] unmerciful;

God is a God of Love but He didn't create Heaven and Hell for no reason.

Faith in the gospel of Jesus Christ is the only hope to avoid the judgment of God.

Posted by: kenny | October 9, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Durga
"Except Arozona & Alaska, Obama/Biden will win all the states. This is a prediction from a republican seeing the bad tactics
of GOP/McCain/Palic."

'Tis true, unless two things happen between now and Nov. 4th:

1)Some Americans at the last moment get cold feet about putting a black man into the White House and revert to their ugly selves.
2)The right-wing assassins find (or are given) an opportunity to have a clear view of the target.

These are not idle words. I've seen the movie called America. I've even read the script....

Posted by: Sam | October 9, 2008 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Its hilarious what the Republicans are being reduced to. One guy is trying to sway us away from Obama because he smokes cigarettes...really...anybody got a hammer to put this nail in his coffin.

Posted by: devilsadvoc8 | October 9, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Again I ask, can anyone answer these questions?

I have a few questions about Obama and his past. This is the only candidate in my 40 years, and I'm sure in the history of Presidential campaigns that has not been ask any tough questions about his life or his past by the mainstream press. Can any of you answer my questions below:

1. He says the Rev, Wright baptized his kids; who baptized him, or has he been baptized as a Christian?
2. When he was a '"community organizer", who did he actually work for, how much did he make per year and who signed his pay checks?
3. When he went from organizer to attorney, how did he afford a $million plus house in Chicago on an "New Associate" attorney's salary?
4. He speaks out against Lobbyists, but wasn't his job as an organizer and with his Law Firm to lobby the Illinois congress for money for his neighborhood and friends? Doesn't that make him a former Lobbyist?
5. How did he pay his way through Columbia University and Harvard Law School? The last time I checked, those are pretty pricey school, and a single mom on food stamps could not come close to swinging that kind of tuition. Did he get scholarships, grants, Gov. assistance, help from friends, and if so, please list? Also, how did he get into Columbia with a less than stellar college track record? If he can get into those schools, and pay for them, doesn't that say a lot about the U.S. being the land of opportunity that he says it is not, or did he have extra help that most Americans are not privy to?
6. Didn't his wife work for the same Law Firm as Bill Ayers' wife (also a terrorist), and aren't they still friends?
7. Where is all of the money coming from for his campaign? I do not believe for a minute that it is all coming from people in the US who support him. If you look at the numbers of people who have donated to his campaign and compare it to the Poll numbers, they don't add up. If that many more Americans support him enough to donate the little that they can, he should be up in the polls by 40 plus points.
8. Who is running his donation operation? BIG question???
9. How much of the money raised by him is from credit card donations? Are people going into further debt to get him elected, and how many of these card will be defaulted on in the next few months?
10. Why does he feel he has the experience to be President and leader of the FREE WORLD, and please explain that experience?

Posted by: J-Deddens | October 9, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Doug,
In my mind, McCain and Palin have done everything they can possibly think of this week to lose this election. Leading rallies where you encourage the crowd to chant "Terrorist" about your opponent has got to frighten anyone who's not Karl Rove. And the debate Tuesday, besides being boring, made him look like a dottering old coot who keeps repeating the same stories over and over. You couldn't help but notice how many times he kept saying the same answers for every question. If he'd said "reach across the aisle" once more, I would have switched to Seinfeld. What's next? Free hot dogs and ballons for the kids?

Posted by: Jay in Nashville | October 9, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"Post1..I will gladly surrender my guns if that is what it takes. And, if one hair one
Posted by: Mike In Oregon"

"..estimates for the number of privately owned guns range from 190 million to 300 million. Removed those that skew the stats for thier own purposes the best estimates are about 45% or 52 million of american households owning 260 million guns"

FAT CHANCE.

You will have to remove them from my cold dead hands!

And the hands that protect your pinko, pacifist, commie ungrateful dolts who can't postpone gratification and petition government for all your needs.

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

What has John McCain got....

Brilliant, maverick ideas and the ability to put them into practice when elected,
bravery, courage and sacrifice for his country , and most importantly of all, the knowledge and experience to seperate himself from the Bush Trail and allow a brand new form of Republicanism emerge.

What has obuma got?

His Association with Terrorists, corruption instead of experience and the talent to patronise and talk down to Women.

What has obuma got?

THE GENIUS TO DECEIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE......
THE GENIUS FOR DISASTER.

What has McCain got......

GENIUS.

McCAIN/PALIN

Posted by: magda1 | October 9, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

AND NOW THE CHEATING STARTS

Just in from NY TIMES; and the republicans are at it again

"NEW YORK - Tens of thousands of eligible voters have been removed from rolls or blocked from registering in at least six swing states, and the voters' exclusion appears to violate federal law, according to a published report.

The New York Times based its findings on reviews of state records and Social Security data.
The Times said voters appear to have been purged by mistake and not because of any intentional violations by election officials or coordinated efforts by any party.
States have been trying to follow the Help America Vote Act of 2002 by removing the names of voters who should no longer be listed. But for every voter added to the rolls in the past two months in some states, election officials have removed two, a review of the records shows.
The newspaper said it identified apparent problems in Colorado, Indiana, Ohio, Michigan, Nevada and North Carolina. It says some states are improperly using Social Security data to verify new voters' registration applications, and others may have broken rules that govern removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election.
Democrats have been more aggressive at registering new voters this year, according to state election officials, so any closer screening of new applications may affect their party's supporters disproportionately, the Times said.
The result is that on Election Day, voters who have been removed from the rolls could show up and be challenged by political party officials or election workers.
The six states seem to have violated federal law in two ways. Some are removing voters from the rolls within 90 days of a federal election, which is not allowed except when voters die, notify the authorities that they have moved out of state, or have been declared unfit to vote.
And some of the states are improperly using Social Security data to verify registration applications for new voters, the newspaper reported.
"Just as voting machines were the major issue that came out of the 2000 presidential election and provisional ballots were the big issue from 2004, voter registration and these statewide lists will be the top concern this year," said Daniel P. Tokaji, a law professor at Ohio State University."

Posted by: John | October 9, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Ralph G. San Jose above quotes from the Book of Revelations as a reason not to vote for Mr. Obama citing that he's of Muslim decent. The only thing this allusion reveals is Ralph's abject stupidity. You idiot. Nowhere in that book is mentioned anything about Muslims, because, hello, Mohammad wasn't born until almost 600 years after that book was written. Who's the moron now, you effing imbecile?
Brainwashed bible thumpers like you make me sick, and will be the real demise of our country.
Get thee back to school and read something enlightening, for thou art now revealing thine abysmal ignorance, you dolt.
Go Obama. May "That One" kick ass!

Posted by: TheGnome | October 9, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

The vast majority of voters vote for the party their parents voted for... simple as that. We are conditioned from the time we're born not to think for ourselves regarding religion and party affiliation and to a lesser extent what college and pro sports teams we love. It's why those two topics are taboo. B-man's quote "You can't REASON someone out of a position that they didn't REASON themselves into" is beautiful. Until the thought of "why" someone believes in what they do gets some honest attention, getting anywhere near the "what" they believe is like beating a dead horse. A simple test is to think back and see if you've EVER voted for the party you're not planning on voting for this election, or if you've EVER considered changing your religious affiliation? If you answered yes to either question, then WELCOME to the minority and read on!

If you're are still undecided, go to factcheck.org or politifact.com and see who's saying what and whether the statement was a deliberate attempt to mislead you. Get off FOX, CNN, MSNBC, etc... if you base your vote on anything you see on TV, you might as well use a coin flip to decide. They're biased beyond any usefulness. Good Luck! Remember, even a stopped watch is right twice a day.

No McCain or Obama supporters were hurt in the making of this post.

Posted by: GenePool | October 9, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

As in any election, grade school class president to President of the United States, logic is not what drives the votes of many of those casting them. In this election, a greater percentage of the population has felt left behind in what has occurred socially and economically in the last three decades. Those who always felt left out and mostly gave up on participating in the election process are seeing their views voiced by those now angered with feelings they were sold a message of prosperity for all, but mostly worked harder and struggled to just maintain a lesser status while economic disparity grew. These new voices of discontent gave energy and hope to the once politically dormant. Because John McCain represents and promotes most of the policies that have generated the growth in disparity, and because of the growth in the number of people now actively fighting against it, his challenge has become as much if not more cultural than one to convince the electorate that his experience is what is needed.

Without doubt, the economy is the overwhelmingly dominant issue in this election. In trying to chip away at Obama's support, promoting fears of heading towards socialism seems to be more frequently used as of late. The reality is that socialism is already part of the mix of systems that comprise our form of democracy and it works because of the mix that includes capitalism not in spite of it. Unless there is something catastrophic that leads to the destruction of our democracy, it is very unlikely socialism will reign in the U.S. What probably has been more undermining of our democracy over the last three decades is our growing trend towards a stronger plutocracy in the mix. Trickle-down, float-all-boats themes for the economy has grown too much power in the hands of relatively few. Economics refers to managing limited resources to satisfy needs, but the practices of recent decades have been as if resources were infinite. Perhaps not consciously, many of the electorate, some certainly motivated by survival or self-interests, are now fighting against the growing plutocracy to restore balance. Because there is little of real change in his economic policies, fear of change as well as fear of the person, seem to be the only tools for the John McCain team to use and it does not seem to be working. Worse, it seems to be amplifying and enabling the lesser qualities of our past in some of our fellow citizens. Even so, our democracy should survive.

Posted by: Lantern | October 9, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

It is really sad to see my country for which I have faught for comming apart at the seams. I do not believe Americans have been so divided since the civil war. Both sides need to wake up now is not the time to fall apart . Trying to blame Bush for everything is ridiculous trying to blame the democratic congress for everything is just as absurd. We need to come together . Remember the day after 9-11 we got off our asses and a got together and went out and kicked some ass. It is time for that to happen again. The US has potential like no other nation on earth we have diversity ,Educational institutions, research facilities like no other place on earth. There is a old saying if you cannot say anything constructive then don't say anything at all. Time to pull together no matter who wins . Stop the Bashing and start being positive . If we as americans cannot reach across the Aisle the how do we expect our leaders to.

Posted by: RAL | October 9, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

The battle on religion is ridiculous! Say Obama is a Muslim. McCain is a Christian. Lets look at them historically:
Christians:
Crusades - hundreds of thousands of deaths
Roman empire - ummmmm world dominance!
Hitler - christian
Napolean - christian
Bush - christian
Cheney - christian
Rasputin - christian
The Vatican - most wealthy and powerful organization in the world that promotes pedophilia child abuse by its priests. Who also ignores science. The planet is only 4500 years old! Can't argue with carbon dating people. And if we keep these beliefs how will we ever cure the diseases that will continue to plague our planet - like cancer, polio, pnuemonia, the common cold. The answer is in stem cells!

Muslims - 9/11

Lets add up the lives lost:
3,000 or so from 9/11
3,000,000,000 or so from Christianity.

I know you don't believe in science or math, but thats pretty compelling!

Posted by: palinwasapornstar | October 9, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama’s campaign is conducting a master-level seminar in how to shout down your opposition on a legitimate point. On Monday at Coachman Park in Clearwater, Florida, Gov. Palin spoke at an outdoor rally to an estimated crowd of 4,500. Later that day, a single – that means just one – Washington Post blog writer [not a reporter], Dana Milbanks, wrote that when Palin raised Ayers name, an unidentified person shouted “kill him.” Milbanks did not say whether the shouter was referring to Ayers or Obama, or even whether the shouter was a Palin supporter [maybe that’s too suspicious on my part – I know the Obama campaign would never plant anyone in the crowd to do something like that]. There was not a single other local media report of this – not in the liberal St. Pete Times, the Tampa Tribune, not on NBC Ch.8, ABC Ch. 28, CBS Ch. 10, Local Cable Bay News 9, and nowhere on the national media as well.

Of course, this got the blogosphere going – shortly thereafter bloggers were condemning McCain/Palin for giving speeches attempting to incite people to kill Obama. They demanded that Palin should have stopped her speech and renounced the shouter. Of course, this assumes the remark was made and that Palin heard it. And if Palin heard it, one might assume that her Secret Service detail heard it. Maybe I’m naïve, but such a remark would have been treated with the same welcomeness as a joke about a bomb in that TSA screening line. The arrest of the shouter would have been plastered on the above-mentioned media outlets.

Two days later, Biden opens the newest Democratic talking point – Palin’s criticism of Obama’s association with Ayers is “mildly dangerous.” AP picks this up and mentions the 48-hour old alleged “kill him” remark and attributes it to “a report in the Washington Post.” Mind you, this was a blog article, not a report in the real Washington Post news section. So, the single, unverified blog report is now used to corroborate Biden’s assertion that Palin’s remarks about Ayers and Obama are “dangerous.” The latest I’ve seen is that the Secret Service is now investigating these news reports. Of course, the single source is a blog report. If this isn’t genius as to the suppression of dissent, what is?

But hold on, what’s the real point? Palin and others dared to question Obama’s association with Ayers. Remember, Obama’s first disingenuous answer to whether he knew Ayers was that Ayers was just “a guy in his neighborhood.” Of course, this is incredibly misleading. In roughly 1995, Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn [another charter member of the Weather Underground who played a more active role than Ayers] actually hosted a small fundraiser for Obama’s first political campaign at their house [in the neighborhood I guess]. The next line of defense has been that Obama was only 8 when Ayers was bombing national landmarks. Does that matter really? Ok, at the fundraiser in 1995, Obama was about 31, and in 2001, when Ayers refused to renounce his Weathermen activities and said he had wished they had done even more, Obama was about 37. Does that also mean that 37 years after 9/11 [37 years from the Weathermen bombings in 1971 to the present], it’ll be ok to go hang out with Osama bin Laden?

They further say Ayers is “rehabilitated.” How? Is there a Center for Terrorist Rehabilitation that offers certification of the same? Maybe that’s just MSNBC or CNN. Actually, Ayers’ father was a wealthy executive with Con-Ed and very close with the Daley political machine [remember “vote early and often”]. Understandably as a father, he went to huge lengths to reestablish his son – probably not hard to do with the aid of the Daley machine.

The last and most malicious defense is that criticism of Obama’s association with Ayers is somehow racist. This is difficult to address because it is laughably illogical yet a hot button issue. How is mentioning Osama’s being less than forthright about his association with a white terrorist racist? Taking it to the extreme, every single criticism of Obama is necessarily racist because Obama is black. Ask the Clintons if Obama played the race card in this manner in the primaries. As I said, this is a master level seminar in how to shout down your opponent.

Posted by: tampalawyer | October 9, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

TO CONCERNED GRANDMOTHER; You have your facts correct. Obama's expensive Harvard education was funded by a terrorist organization onces stationed in Texas and the Saudis. He's got friends in all the wrong places and he has brainwashed the America people by changing his positions he speaks about a year ago to other positions which will give him votes. He is a crook, a liar and a communist at heart. And these people want to place the future and safety of America in his hands? Nuts. If he becomes president, I will research and see if our state can leave the union; I believe it has that right and was agreed upon before our state joined the union. We would be much better off than living in socialism.

Posted by: Anonymous
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That whole secession from the Union thing is quite possibly one of the least patriotic things I've heard. You sure you don't hate America, sir? Where's your flag-pin, sir? Newsflash: The GOP does not hold exclusive rights to patriotism in this country. All of us "liberals" (I'm more of a socially-liberal centrist, but the Fox News crowd doesn't really make a distinction) have sat patiently through 8 years of ineffective leadership, watching our country fall into further debt but we have not asked to seceed. If you've actually LISTENED to Obama, you'd realize we are not going to institute socialism any worse that this bail-out bill already did (voted for by many of your GOP butt-buddies AFTER earmarks were added). Grow-up, suck it up, and be a man... all these childish I'm-not-getting-my-way tactics by the McCain campaign and its supporters are ridiculous and most of the American public can see through them.

Posted by: NCVoter | October 9, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Obama's Year Old Letter to Bernanke and Paulson Regarding Housing Crisis
Link

March 22, 2007

The Honorable Ben Bernanke
Chairman
Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System
20th Street and Constitution Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20551

The Honorable Henry Paulson
Secretary
U.S. Department of Treasury
1500 Pennsylvania Ave, NW
Washington, D.C. 20220


Dear Chairman Bernanke and Secretary Paulson,

There is grave concern in low-income communities about a potential coming wave of foreclosures. Because regulators are partly responsible for creating the environment that is leading to rising rates of home foreclosure in the subprime mortgage market, I urge you immediately to convene a homeownership preservation summit with leading mortgage lenders, investors, loan servicing organizations, consumer advocates, federal regulators and housing-related agencies to assess options for private sector responses to the challenge.

We cannot sit on the sidelines while increasing numbers of American families face the risk of losing their homes. And while neither the government nor the private sector acting alone is capable of quickly balancing the important interests in widespread access to credit and responsible lending, both must act and act quickly.

Working together, the relevant private sector entities and regulators may be best positioned for quick and targeted responses to mitigate the danger. Rampant foreclosures are in nobody's interest, and I believe this is a case where all responsible industry players can share the objective of eliminating deceptive or abusive practices, preserving homeownership, and stabilizing housing markets.

The summit should consider best practice loan marketing, underwriting, and origination practices consistent with the recent (and overdue) regulators' Proposed Statement on Subprime Mortgage Lending. The summit participants should also evaluate options for independent loan counseling, voluntary loan restructuring, limited forbearance, and other possible workout strategies. I would also urge you to facilitate a serious conversation about the following:

* What standards investors should require of lenders, particularly with regard to verification of income and assets and the underwriting of borrowers based on fully indexed and fully amortized rates.

* How to facilitate and encourage appropriate intervention by loan servicing companies at the earliest signs of borrower difficulty.

* How to support independent community-based-organizations to provide counseling and work-out services to prevent foreclosure and preserve homeownership where practical.

* How to provide more effective information disclosure and financial education to ensure that borrowers are treated fairly and that deception is never a source of competitive advantage.

* How to adopt principles of fair competition that promote affordability, transparency, non-discrimination, genuine consumer value, and competitive returns.

* How to ensure adequate liquidity across all mortgage markets without exacerbating consumer and housing market vulnerability.

Of course, the adoption of voluntary industry reforms will not preempt government action to crack down on predatory lending practices, or to style new restrictions on subprime lending or short-term post-purchase interventions in certain cases. My colleagues on the Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs have held important hearings on mortgage market turmoil and I expect the Committee will develop legislation.

Nevertheless, a consortium of industry-related service providers and public interest advocates may be able to bring quick and efficient relief to millions of at-risk homeowners and neighborhoods, even before Congress has had an opportunity to act. There is an opportunity here to bring different interests together in the best interests of American homeowners and the American economy. Please don't let this opportunity pass us by.


Sincerely,


Barack Obama
United States Senator

Posted by: Max11 | October 9, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

gmlawrence says:

"The Republicans are doing their best to parade his baggage (Resko, Wright, ACORN, Ayers, the fusion socialst party in Chicago, the Kenyan mess) in front of the public, and so far Obama has had the luxury of not being asked about this by the MSM".

Well, good luck with that. You must be living in an alternate universe. Regarding Rezko, he sat down for long no-holds barred interviews with both the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune. One of the Sun-Times reporters (the paper is no friend of Democrats!) said that Obama answered every single question about the situation, and should have come in a long time ago. The same thing with Ayers. The stuff that McCain and Palin claim Obama is hiding, like attending a tea in Ayer's home at one time, is published on Obama's web site, fer goshsake.

So as I said, good luck with that.

Posted by: orrg1 | October 9, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

THANK YOU, J. WITT!
You deserve much admiration for your wit (no pun intended) and for bothering to post such poignant and well-thought answers.

Unfortunately, I doubt that your humanity and wisdom will take root among the right-wing posters here. A case of casting pearls, I'm a afraid...

Posted by: Sam | October 9, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

If Ayers is a terrorist shouldn't we alert DHS so they can haul him off to GITMO?

Posted by: Cheese Man | October 9, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing negative about asking questions regarding Obama's judgment and ability to lead. He has several questionable current associations - Ayers, Wright, ACORN, etc. He has not been truthful about his relationships or religion, often just denying things that are now beginning to become public. Obama’s assertion that somehow an incident when McCain was a freshman Senator is of the same caliber as his current associations as a freshmen Senator causes me some concern as far as his ability to lead. Unfortunately, the main stream press has been less the fair in their coverage of these issues and has not thoroughly covered the Obama connections objectively. I think Obama has potential and would make a good president in about ten years when he has had the chance to distance himself from some of his associates and mad positive advances towards working with all people.

Posted by: cpk | October 9, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

While the economy is failing, McCain is making a call for all bigots and hate-mongers to join his parade of slime. He is desperate and it is a personal call to jihad for his campaign. And they are coming out of the woodwork, every right wing nut in the country is answering the call and coming up with the smear and fear garbage that McCain is begging them for. McCain is not a hero or a leader. He displays the same cowardice that he displayed when he ratted on his Keating Five comrades to escape prosecution. At a Florida rally where Palin called Obama a terrorist some one even yelled Kill Him! - shades of the Nazi hate rallies. McCain is bringing great shame on the electoral process and his erratic behavior makes it clear he is not qualified to be president any more than his junkyard dog running mate.

Posted by: jefflz | October 9, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Except Arozona & Alaska, Obama/Biden will win all the states. This is a prediction from a republican seeing the bad tactics of GOP/McCain/Palic.

Posted by: Durga | October 9, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I am a republican i would have voted for Mc Cain but since he chose Palin for a VP, i have changed my mind i'd rather voted for Obama that vote for McCain. Do not live in denial i know that Obama does not have the experience that McCain has or Biden has but at least Obama has more experiene than Palin. Think for a minute if McCain become president and died later on do you really think that Palin will fit to lead this country? She knows nothing about the country she can't even answer questions they asked her something she answered something else. How did she come Gov.of Alaska? What kind of people voted for her? I am suprise are we american? Even a blind would have chosen someone else.

Posted by: America | October 9, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

j:
Yeah, let's not forget that wicken demographic, hail Satan! (LOL)

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | October 9, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

"Two Years ago, Pelosi said, "...we intend to lead the most honest, the most open and the most ethical Congress in history". (She forgot competent)
Democrats will "in the spirit of bi-partisan ship" serve the peoples business like no other Congress before."
...............................
Patrick from Sarasota, yes the dems have been in congress for two years, but this country is in such a gd mess that it will take the next ten years to clean up. How could anyone have expected Congress to clean it up in two years. Oh, and about the Communist thing. Democrats and Republicans signed off on that piece of trash, but did you notice that the so-called "populist" group of neocons who dissed the first bill accepted it once it was sweetened for them? And, btw, try reading what Marx actually wrote before you start suggesting that dems are inserting his ideas into our economy.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Patrick in Sarasota - I am an Obama voter and have always owned guns. One thing I want you to understand, however, is I have seen the Palin rally's hwere she whips the mob into a frenzy where they scream about killing Obama, shooting liberals, calling Obama a traitor. I have furthermore, read the news articles where some right wong nut was ginned from listening to Limbaugh or Fox and went out and shot liberals in a chruch or gathering. Given that, I am all for taking every gun you have from you and nutcases like you. I will gladly surrender my guns if that is what it takes. And, if one hair one Mr. Obama's head is harmed as a result of Palin or swine like you, there will result in a movement in this country where we will see to it you and the nuts at the NRA can't have anything more dangerous and a plastic spoon. We'll see to it that every single gun in this country is confiscated and melted down to slag before the idiots in the Supreme Court can blink.

Posted by: Mike In Oregon | October 9, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

McCain and Hillary howled with indignation when Obama commented that the anxious and economically threatened people of Pennsylvania were clinging to their guns and Bibles because the economic certainty of their past had been shipped to cheap labor markets overseas by the people who put Bush in office and kept him there.

Now, Sarah Palin has just painted the same people as "Joe Six Packs and Hockey Moms".

Joe SixPack is a beer-bellied slouch who watches TV reality shows from his slumping couch; and the mindless, roving "Hockey Mom" who takes her children to hockey games and screams obscenties at the children on the other teams is presumably his wife.

Where's the outrage from middle America? Why has the media allowed her to get away with these degrading characterizations of good Amercians?

Sarah Palin has a subpoena to respect (it's the law - even in Alaska). Her husband has a subpoena to respond to also, but both have indicated that they will not obey the law.

Even Joe Sixpack and his wife, Hockey, are not above the law.

Posted by: SteveinLaJolla | October 9, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I am just so tired of McCain/Palin’s smear campaign. Trying to twist the truth in that way turns voters away from them.

I myself are an independent voter, and was leaning towards McCain. But bringing in the eye winking province politician turned me off. I now will vote for Obama, a man of integrity, honesty and class

Regards
John

Posted by: John | October 9, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

McCain and his family took at least nine free trips at Keating's expense, and vacationed nearly every year at the mogul's estate in the Bahamas. There they would spend the days yachting and snorkeling and attending extravagant parties in a world McCain referred to as "Charlie Keating's Shangri-La." Keating also invited Cindy McCain and her father to invest in a real estate venture for which he promised a 26 percent return on investment. They plunked down more than $350,000.

And they're calling Obama an elitist!!??

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

"Post1..Are you really voting based solely on gun laws? Might want to re-evaluate that one big guy! Do it quick though...cause the British are coming! Posted by: palinwasapornstar"

"Post2..So Patrick: Are you one of those clinging to your gun? Are you a one issue voter? Posted by: Atruegoat"

(1) Gun rights
(2) Smaller Government
(3) Small Business Taxes & Regulations
(4) Government Corruption and Malfeasance

How about you? More gimme gimme gimme?

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Our founders found another use for guns rather than suicide, that being to overturn an unrepresentative government. I'm gratified that a majority of America's Citizens still consider being armed one of our inalienable rights, perhaps for the very same reason as our founding fathers.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | October 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse


DO YOU WANT MORE FAILED BUSH POLICY?
IF YES VOTE MCCAIN!

DO YOU WANT NO MORE FAILED BUSH POLICY?
IF YES VOTE OBAMA!

Posted by: McLame | October 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Well Obama is going to be elected.

THIS IS WILL STILL BE ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT! LEAVE!

Posted by: DougH1 | October 9, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

let us all calm down and be thankful we have the basic necessities of life. Let's not criticize our politicians because they're doing their best for our country. Soon, if all of us respect them, they will turn around and realize what idiots they have been. This will take about 3-4 years.

Posted by: sandy | October 9, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

"A true hero does not shine the light upon himself or speak of the actions that made him a hero,thus McCain is truly the anti-hero."

Yeah, and look how much ***a part of his campaign*** McCain has made of his "abandoning his campaign" to act on the bailout proposal. To which, as far as can be seen, he contributed nothing. Mr. "I can work with the other party" also seems to have had scant to no influence on his own party: as a party they voted against the bailout. Whatever McCain did to convince them it seems to not have worked. Unless he was convincing them to vote "no."

I can respect voting against the bailout: Feingold did, for good reasons. But as it stands it's hard to tell where McCain even stands on the issue. That after the grandstand play in which he put himself forward as the guy who heeded the call to duty and returned to Washington (in a leisurely manner, to be sure. Couldn't appear on Letterman but - Surprise! - he had the same amount of time available to be interviewed by Couric) to work on the bailout.

Why did Rovian pretense work so well for Bush yet now work so badly for McCain? Has the American public learned?

Posted by: hewhoasks | October 9, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

what I see in these posts is two class of people the educated and the uneducated,witch consists of racist ,rednecks,and skinhead versus normal educated people maybe not college educated but enough brain,to realize that these republican all they doing is spewing diarrhea from their mouth, without checking the facts

Posted by: j | October 9, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm starting to miss the Obama from the primaries that spoke of hope and a change from typical politics. I wouldn't vote for Nader or any of the other "alternative" candidates, though, because I know that it would just split the democratic vote and McCain would win. No, I'll vote for Obama and hope that my first impression of him was correct and that he actually will be a good president.

That said, I like some of Ron Paul's ideas and I like some of Nader's ideas. If I was Obama, I'd incorporate the good parts of their platforms, especially if I could get them to agree to be cabinet members or department secretaries in charge of their strong points. He'd win over a lot of independents.

Posted by: neall | October 9, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

atruegoat:
Actually a picture of anyone praying to Allah is proscribed by the Muslim religion. Pictures of people at prayer are probably acceptable, but any depiction of Allah is grounds for Jihad.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | October 9, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

People don't care if they lose their jobs, homes and that gas is $4.00 a gallon. JUST DON'T TAKE THEIR GUNS AWAY! So when your hungry and homeless, at least you'll still be able to commit suicide.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

WaPo: please accept posts only from those willing to include their FULL NAME (yes, I know some will be made up, but . . . .)

Limit people to one post.

Posted by: Marian K. Woodall | October 9, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

McCaine's problem is HIMSELF !

Old McFART is blowing himself up - - it is called ''SPONTANEOUS COMBUSTION'' !!!!

- - never thaught I would live to see the phenom !!!!!

Posted by: Hussien for America | October 9, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

John McCain decline began when he was a boozing womanizer as a commander of a Naval Base. The war hero's behavior was overlooked for awhile but still his marginal ratings from his superiors caused him to be bypassed for promotions and additional command responsibilities. Nexr he left his wife, a wife who was loyal to him. John McCain left for a wealthy woman who was 15 years younger, you might say a dream or fantasy for a lot of men. Along the way John McCain has displayed his temper both in the military and in the senate. Last but not least, John McCain shows the people of this country his judgement and how he will carry out his fiduciary responsibility to the citizens of this country with his most important decision of his campaign.

He choose Sarah Palin to be his running mate, he choose Sarah Palin and told us she was qualified to lead this country if something was to happen to him. We have seen Sarah Palin. Perhaps if she is given time and a chance to embrace politics at the national and world level she could grow and become a leader and recognized on the national level. So far she has demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge regarding world and national events. This pick alone shows how truly unqualified John McCain is to lead this country, he simply is untrustworthy to make the correct decision. A great senator for the State of Arizona perhaps, but he should never be given the reigns to lead this country. He has demonstrated again and again his shortcomings.

Obama/Biden ‘08


Posted by: seakayaker | October 9, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

ssay...your an ignorant racist...I think you should leave...or at least take a timeout in the corner...

ACORN has nothing to do wih Obama, I love the reps talking about voter fraud, you guys are the best at it...I think there will be lots of registrations errors, when you register 500K new people in a state.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

"The real question is can Obama remain un-vetted for the next 20-some days til election day. The Republicans are doing their best to parade his baggage (Resko, Wright, ACORN, Ayers, the fusion socialst party in Chicago, the Kenyan mess) in front of the public, and so far Obama has had the luxury of not being asked about this by the MSM, and he has been able to sit back and not answer any of the questions the Republicans bring up and still the public thinks he is the squeeky clean image of hope and dreams, not the Chicago leftist corrupt thug his baggage indicates. If any of this stuff gains traction, the bubble will burst and his lead will erode.
......................................
Wiggan, Obama has spent the last two years being vetted. He has answered questions about these subjects and was put through much of the same in the primaries. If you don't support him because you don't like his stand on the issues, then just admit it and get off the bandwagon of rumors and conjecture.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 9, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

The Jackboot Express has sent out drug queen Cindy McCain as its' new spokesmodel. Hope she has stole enough oxycontin to get her through until election day.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:20 PM | Report abuse

RALPH G - Actually, the Anti-Christ is supposed to be someone who will mislead "the faithful". Given that, you can be dead certain that the Anti-Chris will be an anti-abortion, gun nut just like that toxic cow Palin.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Have any of you really watched and listened to these Palin rally's? If you have not then you really should.

You can not whip people into such an emotional frenzy of anger then flash a pretty smile, walk away, and take no responsibility for what so easily could be born out of such hysteria.

It reminds me of the stories of the Salem witch trials and it nears the line of hate crimes.

Posted by: J. Woode | October 9, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Two Years ago, Pelosi said, "...we intend to lead the most honest, the most open and the most ethical Congress in history". (She forgot competent)

Democrats will "in the spirit of bi-partisan ship" serve the peoples business like no other Congress before.

Time for a job review of these fine public servants “before this election”:

$140 billion added to the $700b Bad Bailout is a great example of Democratic competence, and how, open, honest, an ethical they treat tax payers.

This new Bailout Bill puts controls over financial matters that are truly straight of Karl Marx’s treatise Das Kapital and The Communist Manifesto. (Read them now)

Think about the fundamental shifts These Clowns forced on our ever disappearing form “free market capitalism”. (Socialism and Communism are bad! Repeat after me!)

Our Country is in DANGER if more far left ideologies gain traction in the minds of our friends and neighbors. More people on government assistance will corrode the soul of productivity and ingenuity.

Democrats Reid, Pelosi, Dodd, Frank, Schumer, Rangel, and Obama wouldn’t be hired dog catcher in the private sector.

Americans should not let the House, Senate, and Executive branches collude in more never ending proposals to create and approve laws that tax and spend our money.

In-competence can not be rewarded. Partisan ship, in these times, can not be rewarded.


VOTE - John McCain/Sarah Palin - VOTE - John McCain/Sarah Palin - TODAY!

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Patrick in Sarasota:
Are you really voting based solely on gun laws? Might want to re-evaluate that one big guy!

Do it quick though...cause the British are coming!!!!

Posted by: palinwasapornstar | October 9, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

So Patrick: Are you one of those clinging to your gun? Are you a one issue voter?

Posted by: Atruegoat | October 9, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Wacky3456:
It's ridiculous to assert that the Clinton administration turned the economy around and began running surpluses immediately err they took office.

Indeed, little if any major financial legislation (except for some of the "deregulation" that everyone asserts is our present problem) was passed by the Clinton administration. Like it or not, the surpluses that finally appeared on our balance sheet are mostly attributable to policy and legislation decisions made during the Reagan, and the subsequent G.H.W. Bush administration.

Surpluses didn't surface in the Clinton administration until well into his second term, shepherded by a then predominantly Republican Congress. As even Senator Obama has stated, financial policy takes time to "kick in". Obama has even backtracked on his earlier promises, allowing that his expansive spending plans might be delayed until his second term, as the result of current economic conditions.

Certainly both party's lost their minds when it comes to spending during the last 4 years. It's hard to find any incumbent who voted against increased spending, of those that can be identified, the majority are Republicans.

Now, tragically, Democrats seem hell bent on "getting theirs" this time, with a little "payback" for all those who denied them veto proof margins thrown in for good measure.

Like it or not, Democrats have controlled Congress for two + years. They've controlled every financial services, banking, regulatory and oversight committee. Congress, and not the President, controls spending. How many terms in office do we have to promise these morons before they get of their A _ _ and get something done?

Pragmatically, Congress can only lay blame providing they made an effort to rein in spending. During the past quarter of a decade that Democrats have controlled Congress, no such effort has been made!

Attempting to stymie military spending is a rubric they'd like to use to bolster a pretense that they are any more fiscally responsible than Republicans, but a rubric that even their own incumbents failed to support.

The solution to the mess we're in, and to taking back control of our government lies in turning out as many Congressional Elites and Power Brokers as possible. By telling these long-serving pariahs "thanks, you've done enough", and returning them to the private sector, we, the people can marginalize the damage that either an Obama or a McCain presidency will cause.

If ever there were a time to set aside partisan "team spirit" and send these politicians a message, that time os now. We may never again have an opportunity of this magnitude to tell Congress that "we've had enough, and we're not going to take it anymore"! Voting the straight party ticket is simply voting for more of the same, and possibly the end of our struggling democracy.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | October 9, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

The straight talk express didn't loose just one wheel, it lost all four: honesty, integrity, humility and intelligence. I'd say that express train is derailed sitting in a train yard somewhere in Alaska.

Posted by: troy gosslaar | October 9, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous-

Are you suggesting that Obama will create another Holocaust if elected? I mean, that's exactly what your post implies. And are you really fearful that democracy will be overturned and we will become a communist country? Really?

Come on. You sound like every sound-bite from the 1950's.

If I actually went out and spewed what you're saying to MY friends & family; they would have me committed.

Posted by: chrystyna | October 9, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Those that say collateral damage, the killing of men, women and children in Iraq and Afghanistan is OK...

say that England, France, Greece or maybe Brazil attacked and invaded America and you were a citizen of the country that attacked America... you heard a report of American women and children being killed as collateral damage by your army.. that's OK right?

Posted by: Not McSame | October 9, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

To Ralph G.: What proof do you have that he was raised as a Muslim?? I am so tired of hearing he's a muslim, he's a muslim. Where's the proof? Any pictures of him praying to allah? Any pictures of him attend a Muslim church? Until you or anybody else can provide cold hard evidence, please stop the non-sense. Is muslim the new code word for "He's Black!"

Posted by: atruegoat | October 9, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

OBAMA ON GUN RIGHTS

Barrak Hussein Obama has NEVER supported your firearm rights in deed or action! NEVER!

FACT: Liberal Obama restricted the poor from protecting themselves from crime in their own home!

Obama opposed an Illinois bill (SB 2165, 2004) that would have created an "affirmative defense" for a person who used a prohibited firearm in self-defense in his own home.

FACT: Liberal Obama has supported total bans on handguns in Illinois!


SB 2165, Obama's support for a total handgun ban (see below) would be a crippling blow to defense in the home, since (as the Supreme Court recently affirmed) handguns are "the most preferred firearm in the nation to 'keep' and use for protection of one's home and family." (District of Columbia v. Heller, 128 S.Ct. 2783, 2818 (2008)).

FACT: Liberal Obama has tried to eliminate and restrict ammunition used in common firearms!

Obama voted for an amendment by longtime ammunition ban advocate Sen. Edward Kennedy (S. Amdt. 1615 to S. 397, Vote No. 217, July 29, 2005), which would have fundamentally changed the federal "armor piercing ammunition" law (18 U.S.C. ' 922(a)(7)), by banning any bullet that "may be used in a handgun and that the Attorney General determines is....

Obama also said, on his 2003 questionnaire for the Independent Voters of Illinois-Independent Precinct Organization, that he would "support banning the sale of ammunition for assault weapons."

Kennedy and Obma specifically denounced the .30-30 Winchester rifle cartridge, used by millions of deer hunters since 1895

FACT: Liberal Obama wants your private property registered for future confiscation!

Obama claimed he doesn't support licensing or registration because he doesn't think he "can get that done" - isn't enough to get around his clear support for handgun registration and licensing.


OBAMA IS REPEATEDLY ON RECORD - NOT IN FAVOR OF YOUR GUN RIGHTS!

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm a communist at heart. Just like American Indians. I don't believe that that lovely stretch of beach down yonder should be
called "private property". It was God-created, God-given, and I should like
to see ALL children playing on it not just the lucky ones with rich parents.

So, sue me!

Posted by: Sam | October 9, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

"I find Sarah Palin scary and appalling."

Ah. Got it. Sarah Apallin.

Posted by: hewhoasks | October 9, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

A mighty oak (Obama) will be destroyed by just a little ACORN.

Investigations into ACORN are underway in Ohio and other states, including Nevada. On Tuesday Nevada officials, with the help of local police and FBI investigations over the past month, raided ACORN's Vegas offices. The Las Vegas ACORN outfit signed people up to vote multiple times, and in some cases using fake names such as the Dallas Cowboys starting lineup.

This is clear evidence that the Obama campaign is engaged in massive voter fraud, which may invalidate the November election if Obama wins.

Posted by: alance | October 9, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Will all of you so called AMERICANs wake up!You are so worried about how the United States will run if McCain gets it, well what the HEll is going to happen if Obama gets it.
He does not give a Damn about this country and sure as hell don't care about the american citizens of this country.
Has any one watched how he did not acknowledge our pledge of allegiance how he does not support our flag.
And this is who you want to run our country. Maybe you should consider moving somewhere else. THIS IS A ONE NATION UNDER GOD. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT! LEAVE!

Posted by: Sassy | October 9, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

The McCain Mutiny, starring John McCain as McSame and Sarah Palin as Vag Cheney.

Posted by: hamishdad | October 9, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

To Michel135 - what drug are you taking? I want some of it. Obama will be IMPEACHED before his term is out. Let me tell you, if this country has not impeached Bush there is no way they are going to impeach any president ever again. Or are you going to tell me that Obama could POSSIBLY be a worse president than Bush? That is impoossible.

Posted by: Markinny | October 9, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

You're all so angry. Think of McCain like the Cubs. Close, but never going to win. Sorry Cubs fans, I am rooting for you (not McCain).

His strategy has turned to true desparation and he has run a piss poor campaign strategically, starting with his pick for VP. That lady is about as smart as my 2 year old black lab.

Stop the anger neocons, it'll all be over soon and if you don't like it, you can all drink the cool-aid making the world a better place!

Posted by: palinwasapornstar | October 9, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone of you hear what McCain did yesterday at his Rally in PA, he said and I quote" My Fellow Prisoners" instead of my Fellow Amerincans, now this is a man that is not mentally balanced, they say he has PSTD, so are we now prisoners to him and not Americans, God help us all if he gets elected.

Posted by: Jo, WI | October 9, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"...........I tried to explain that Obama is best suited to fixing the economy and thereby allowing middle income folks to have more money to change houses, but he is sold already.............. "

Just assume Obama is the better than McCain in economy. How can you be so sure he is a honest salesman?

And he is not the best for economy anyway but rather the best Hollywood dancing star.

Posted by: jy2008 | October 9, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Obama *should* win the election, but given the history of vote manipulation, outright fraud, and the fact that they are backed by all of that corporate and Wall Street money from the taxpayer "bailout", don't count McCain and that white trash racist bimbo he selected as his running mate. Of course, it would be a pretty empty victory becasue the world would shun us, our economy would completely and totally collapse, millions will stave to death or die needlessly from disease, millions more will resort to violence, and this whole country will simply come apart. Voting for McCain and Palin is essentially a new way to commit suicide, on both an individual and national scale. I would suggest that anyone even contemplating a vote for any Republican to drink rat poison to spare the rest of us their lemming like run off the cliff.

Posted by: Mike In Oregon | October 9, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

“I don't so much care about the Ayers connection except for the lying about it.”

What lie? Ayers is a casual associate and supporter, every single interaction between him and Ayers is a matter of public record and has been for some time.

ACORN is in his pocket.

ACORN in non-partisan. Obama has no current connection to ACORN. His former law firm was legal counsel for the group.

Oh, and if you're single and make 42k a year, your taxes are going up because you're 'wealthy.'

This is completely untrue. Who told you that lie? Check your sources.

I'd have more respect for the man if he would simply tell us what he really stands for: radical ideology along the lines of Ayres, Dorrin, Wright, Fleger et al. He should represent himself honestly and let the people judge whether that's what they want in the White House.

No you wouldn’t. That is not what he stands for, that’s what you and the right wing want to say he stands for. Your mind is clearly made up not to believe anything but what you want to believe.

If someone chose a variable rate mortgage they chose to gamble on the payments remaining low. If a person looses all their money on a trip to a casino they do not have the right to request aid to help them out. What difference is there?

The difference is deception. Most of the faulty mortgages had deceptive terms that caused mortgage payments to double and many homeowners were not aware that would happen. Traditional variable rate mortgages were not risky because they were regulated. Traditionally, entering into a mortgage has not been like a trip to Vegas. It is sad that we have mortgage brokers that made it into one. Have you ever read a mortgage agreement? Most people trust their banks. The fact that Mortgage brokers are being charged with fraud should tell you something. When fraud is involved, it is unreasonable to blame the victim.

There is another difference, traditional mortgages were held by a bank. If you lost a job or had a family emergency, the bank would work with you until you were able to resume regular payments. Few people lost homes over a temporary problem, and their interest rates did not double or triple. Today, some mortgage holders will start foreclosure within 30 days.

While we all feel sorry for those who cannot adequately afford quality healthcare is that also the requirement of everyone else to take care of them? The majority of us work very hard at jobs that provide insurance or simply purchase our own. If everyone has equal access to equal quality healthcare it defeats the incentive for anyone to work harder so that one can afford better.

Have you ever had to deal with loosing a job? We work hard to live, improve our lives and the lives of our family. No one chooses poverty if they can find a way out. No one is suggesting free and equal care for all. Those that want something better can buy something better. Just like with Medicare, you can go get your own, or you can buy supplemental for better coverage.

Are we a civilized society? Can you stand back and cross your arms while your neighbor dies from a treatable illness? I have a friend who had insurance that was cancelled when she got cancer because the insurance considered it too expensive. She worked hard for her insurance too. Now she is loosing everything. And no one will insure her. When her life savings is gone, well, she hopes to die before then.

In addition, every country that has developed a nationally socialized system has noticed a decrease in the quality of the care available.

This is not true. I have relatives in the UK and they are quite happy with the care they receive. I suspect you do not know many people in other countries. What are you basing this on? Some of the most recent advances in transplant therapy have come from Germany. They have socialized medicine, everyone gets basic care, and they still manage to make great advances.

There is a reason that so many of the people in Canada, that can afford it, drive south for their medical care.

Yes there is. Canada originally had all health care go through the system. There was no private option. That has changed. Yhere are now private clinics opening in Canada for people who want to buy it privately, or go to a non-government clinic. Those Canadians that can't afford it will get health care. Maybe not the Cadillac of care, but they will get it.

Finally, when a candidate receives so much fanfare in foreign countries it makes one wonder why would those abroad favor a candidate so much. Is it because they see a benefit to themselves if that candidate gains power?

Maybe it is because they consider the US to be an important ally. Maybe it is because they have a deep respect for the US and the role it has played over the years in the world. And maybe it is because all civilized nations have to deal with terrorism, and we all live in the same world. To see thousands of our allies show up to see a presidential candidate, waving American flags and cheering used to be common. (Remember Kennedy and Reagan?) After 9/11 the world was on our side and the outpouring of support and money came from everywhere. Remember the “We are all Americans” statement? Bush squandered that good will, perpetrated deep divisions in our nation and alienated our best allies.

Why do you think that having the good will and support of other countries is a bad thing? That is called paranoia, and the divisiveness of right wing rhetoric encourages us to see the world as an enemy. Does it occur to you that support for a potential president could be a good thing? Perhaps a sign that once again America will be respected in the world.

And it all comes down the heart of it: “Why should I pay?” We pay to have a civilized society. We pay because I do not want to see military veterans sleeping under bridges, I do not want to hear about American kids suffering from easily treatable illness because they don’t have money. I do not believe that poor people are lazy, I have lost jobs, had medical emergencies that bankrupted me, and gone through the struggle of finding work in a lousy economy. We pay because we are our brother’s keeper. Today you pay, and tomorrow you do not need to fear if a tragedy should befall you or your loved ones.

J. Whitt

Posted by: Joan | October 9, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Listen senators - don't insult me!
McCain:
1) Palin is an insult. You compromised your integrity.
2) Mockery doesn't make me run to your side. Stop running a campaign based on mob psychology.
3) Duty to country and military service is not a reason to justify an unjust war. My husband is military - they do what they are bound to do - follow orders, for God, country, and their families. They do not do it for the sake of 'winning.' They would much rather be at home.

Obama:
1) healthcare, Iraq, economy - we heard you! Debate 2 was all platitudes - push forward with new, specific talk before we think you're all talk.
2) the high road - Palin is insulting all of us, not just you. We need a pres who won't always turn the high-brow cheek.. the best line from debate 1 - "you were wrong, you were wrong, you were wrong" to J McCain.
3) let Biden loose!

both candidates:
1) name your cabinets
2) detail your first 90 days in office
3) GIVE THE PEOPLE A REAL DEBATE!
HIGH SCHOOL STYLE!
ANSWER QUESTIONS DIRECTLY!
REFUTE AND REBUT!
USE LOGIC, NOT MANIPULATION.
NO TALKING POINTS!
FACTS, OPINIONS, AND CALLS TO ACTION ONLY!

AND HATE MONGER SARA PALIN GO HOME!! BOO!!

Posted by: azflori | October 9, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

You hillbillies can't vote for McCain till you learn to spell, it's McCain...not MCCann or McCaine...or I've even see McKaine...and please enough will the communist rhetoric...how long are you idiots going to call the other guy a communist? And to the moron who listed Farrakhan as a friend of Obama's?!?! they don't like him, neither does Sharpton or Jesse Jackson...Obama is a guy that speaks to personal responsibility in the black community...Jesse called Obama an Uncle Tom...It's just silly to think that because Obama is in the white house like Ludacris is going to be be in the cabinet...I say only 1 out 0f 50 McCain supporters actually speak to the issues or say anything of substance...most of it is just nonsense!

Posted by: Is it over yet?! | October 9, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

McCain has already lost - on credibility, integrity, judgment and idea leadership. Having been subjected to the abuse of smear and tear by the Bush campaign, he has turned to abusing with smear of Obama.

McCain is an angry, sad man trying to grasp a lean straw to climb the Whitehouse fence somehow by any means.

Posted by: mouli | October 9, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Sharon/GA; what hole with a HUGE rock on top of it did you just crawl out of? "the blacks" you shouldn't worry about socialist you should worry about removing your picture from the dictionary next to the word racist

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

The real question is can Obama remain un-vetted for the next 20-some days til election day. The Republicans are doing their best to parade his baggage (Resko, Wright, ACORN, Ayers, the fusion socialst party in Chicago, the Kenyan mess) in front of the public, and so far Obama has had the luxury of not being asked about this by the MSM, and he has been able to sit back and not answer any of the questions the Republicans bring up and still the public thinks he is the squeeky clean image of hope and dreams, not the Chicago leftist corrupt thug his baggage indicates. If any of this stuff gains traction, the bubble will burst and his lead will erode.

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He has answered these questions how many times does he have to answer them before people hears what he has to say. He was 8 when Ayers was a criminal. Ayers went to jail and did his time as do many criminals and has come out a reformed person. Cannot people change? Is that not the American dream to make oneself better? He bought some land off of Rezko a sliver of land between their properties and that is the only contact he has had with the guy. How is that a terrorist dealing? Watch out I guess if you buy some land from your neighbor then you are a terrorist. As for ACORN I have yet to investigate that and will be doing so shortly. Obama has not been asked about that as far as I know so maybe that is the only question outstanding. I see it as this. You hear what you want to hear and throw out rest.

Posted by: gmlawrence | October 9, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

To RALPH G.

The book of revelations was written (at least) 800 years before the first muslim existed, so how can it claim the antichrist is going to be muslim?

Posted by: Antonio | October 9, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

McCain looked like a tin wind-up chicken during the debate. He'd better watch out for Palin. She's getting meaner and meaner.

Posted by: ericmiami | October 9, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I think the American people want to, and are entitled to, hear from Gov. Palin in a regular, SOLO, non-rehearsed sit-down interview without anyone at her side operating the strings or with their hand up her back. Obviously the Katie Couric interview was an embarrassment and a debacle and the McCain camp seems to at least understand that much - but let's see her try it again and see if she really can address these tough issues off the cuff. We've already had 8 years of a puppet regime. We deserve proof that the 2nd in command really has the knowledge to handle the top job - God forbid!

Posted by: S Chek | October 9, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Another thing about the Rezko deal. It is really very simple. A doctor lived in a house with a lot of property. He divided the property into two pieces, one with a house and another with empty land. Obama bought the piece with the house and Rezko bought the one with empty land. Both were sold on the same day because if you were selling property you would want to make sure everything was sold before you left. Rezko bought the land for $625,000. a little while later, Obama wanted some more land so he contacted Rezko who owned it and offered to buy a piece. He wanted to buy 1/6th of the land that Rezko had bought, so he paid 104,250 which is about 1/6th of the price. Rezko ran into trouble with the law, that Obama really didn't have anything to do with. He just wanted to increase the size of his property.

Posted by: SimpleSimon | October 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Wow...I think each and every one of you needs to look at the name calling that is going on in this string. It is pretty pathetic when people cannot express their feelings without using derogatory expressions. Ever wonder why politics is the way it is? A number of people that are commenting on this string are behaving like name-calling children. Regardless of your affiliation, the candidates deserve a level of respect. Please grow up and stick to the issues.

Posted by: Undecided | October 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."
Pop quiz!
Who said that?

"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government," Vogler, the founder of Alaskan Independence Party, said in a 1991 interview, in which he talked extensively about his desire for Alaskan secession, the key goal of the AIP.

Palin has courted the group over the years.

She has repeatedly reached out to the group. The McCain campaign has confirmed she visited the group's 2000 convention, and she addressed its convention this year, as an incumbent governor whose oath of office includes upholding the Constitution of the United States.

Palin's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of the party from 1995-2002 with a brief exception in 2000.

Sarah Palin palling around with secessionists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eniG9l_7its

Why is that not making ANY news?!
That lady has nerve talking about Ayers.....
Seriously, where is the headline news on this stuff? Talk about guilt by association!
That Vogler guy takes the cake for any "anti-American" sentiments.
And Sarah wasn't six years old when she spoke, what, like three times at their conventions?!


Posted by: Granny goose | October 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

If you voted for Bush twice and are dumb enough to vote for McCain, you should leave this forum in shame.

Bush's job DISAPPROVAL reached an American record of 70% yesterday. If his job APPROVAL rating drops 2 more points he will be tied for the record there. One point worse than Nixon when he resigned and equal with Truman's low.

(www.gallup.com)

If you picked Bush twice, please don't give me any advice on how to vote.

Posted by: DougH1 | October 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

McCain's friends were blindsided by the divorce. The Reagans — with whom the couple had frequently dined and even accompanied on New Year's holidays — never forgave him.

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/6

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I was at Faux Nooz today scanning reader comments and it was downright frightening. People truly believe Obama's education was funded by Muslim radicals, and that Hussein Obama will turn us into an Islamist state. Several people remarked that if Obama is elected that he would allow Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, mad bombers, etc. to run rampant (isn't America's biggest asset its "melting pot"?). There were calls to make the US a Christian nation. Toss in McCain and Palin whipping up hatred even more at their rallies. *shudders* The thinking of the far right is mentally unstable and I'm ashamed to read such ignorant ideas coming from fellow Americans. The GOP sounds more and more like the early Nazi party, stirring up racial hatred and pushing for a "White (Aryan) Christian Nation. I feel we are doomed going down this path.

Posted by: Worried Voter | October 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Re: I have a few questions about Obama

1. who baptized him

What? Who baptized him is your #1 question?

2. When he was a '"community organizer", who did he actually work for, how much did he make per year and who signed his pay checks?

You apparently haven't listened to what he or his team have to say, because this something they go into great detail about. Here's a 10 minute story on it with all of the answers you asked for:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/08/obama_introduction_video.html

3. When he went from organizer to attorney, how did he afford a $million plus house in Chicago on an "New Associate" attorney's salary?

First, I don't think he owns a $million house. But if he did, the $2 million he made from his first book might explain it.

4. He speaks out against Lobbyists, but wasn't his job as an organizer and with his Law Firm to lobby the Illinois congress for money for his neighborhood and friends? Doesn't that make him a former Lobbyist?

You could probably stretch the truth that far... You could also say that Mother Teresa was a lobbiest for the poor of India if you were so inclined.

There is a difference between lobbying for a big wealthy company to get laws passed at the expense of the people so you can increase profit, and lobbying to help the poor. Most people can see this.

5. How did he pay his way through Columbia University and Harvard Law School?

This is also a matter of public record. He worked very hard and earned scholarships.

6. Didn't his wife work for the same Law Firm as Bill Ayers' wife (also a terrorist), and aren't they still friends?

No, but you might get a few more votes for McCain if you just keep asking the question over and over. Though slimy, this is an effective tactic.

7. Where is all of the money coming from for his campaign?

This is as regulated as anything. You get just over 1% of the US population to donate an average of $100, and you suddenly have $500 million. It's not rocket science.

8. Who is running his donation operation? BIG question???

Um... His campaign staff. Who do you think?

9. How much of the money raised by him is from credit card donations? Are people going into further debt to get him elected, and how many of these card will be defaulted on in the next few months?

Now you've gone off the deep end.

10. Why does he feel he has the experience to be President and leader of the FREE WORLD, and please explain that experience?

He has as much experience being leader of the free world as the last 42 presidents. Let's see... Kim Jong Il of North Korea has many years of experience actually leading a country. I suppose you would rather have him in charge?

Obama has plenty of experience in leading people and solving very tough issues. But someone starting from such a position of disrtust and dislike will probably not be willing to see this.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

"1st Post.. NoBama is only concerned with getting power. He has never shown any concern the issues of the opposite party.
He IS a divider not a uniter. What issues on the Republican side does relate to?
Gun Rights! Hell no. Property Rights! Guess again. Free Markets! You must be joking.

"2nd Post...(Yawn) An old, old talking point wrung dry in the primary. Again, the GOP base talking to the GOP base. Fall in line like the disciplined sheep you are! bahhhhhh bahhhhhh!

Your dismissive comment in the 2nd post... PROVES THE POINT of the 1st post!

How about addressing an issue someone else is concerned about.

Can you. Can NoBama. NO!

Vote for Real Change - McCain / Palin - Today!


Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Like most people I am sick to my teeth with the conduct of the Bush Administration and early on in the primary's a year ago I would have been very happy with either McCain or Obama. As others have commented I would gladly have voted for McCain in 2000. Now that has all been thrown out the window. He has become the image of Bush with his now disingenuous campaign. In the classic adoption of Rovian politics its all about manipulation of the voters and little about the issues, leading the country or doing what is best for the voters.

Picking someone like Palin to stir the conservative base and try to haul in women votes was a reckless decision. At this point she has shown herself to be intellectual lightweight (or intellectually lazy as Bob Woodward referred to Bush) on any of the complex questions facing the world today. I don't think she is dumb, just that she has never thought deeply or was interested in those things.

Then the farce of going to Washington to "rescue" the bailout and the campaign suspension reeked once more of trying to score political points off a crisis and had nothing to do with actually trying to address or resolve the issue.

Now we have the final straw of turning negative and rolling out the "swift boat" style campaign.

People want stability, leadership, straightforwardness from someone that is genuine in their beliefs. Right now Obama is "the one" that is convincing people that he meets these croterion. It used to be John McCain and it saddens me to say it is not anymore. His campaign may well be the straw that breaks the camels back on Rovian politics. For a man that gave so much and spent the last 30 years getting to this point it is a tragedy that he gave up all that made him so great at a time when the country and his campaign needed it most.

Posted by: Nager | October 9, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

McCain reminds me of playing sports against a team that is losing and out-classed, and the losing team starts playing dirty to try and win since they can not win fairly and know it.

Posted by: yup | October 9, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

The trickle down theory of economics espoused by people like William here is nonsense and is now deservedly dying. If we look at recent history, we can only conclude that McCain's continuations of Bush tax policies are in fact what would kill the economy once and for all.

Yesterday on the radio Neal Boortz got his history wrong. He said that Bush had to come in and lower taxes in 2001 because of the mess Clinton had made of the economy. Oh, really? Bush lowered taxes because the government was running a surplus and he said he wanted to give some back! That's the problem with Republican mouthpieces, they're always assuming we remember nothing that happened more than two days ago. The economy didn't plunge until after Bush took office, and then his recipe to fix things was? Well, lower taxes for the rich, of course! Good times, bad times, lower them to zero! But, oh yeah, borrow money from China to fight two wars - and now in 2008 - borrow more to bail out fatcats, wreckless gamblers, swindlers and cheats.

And that gets to the heart of trickle down baloney, and another thing Boortz said. He said that if you raise taxes on small businesses, then you will kill off jobs. He doesn't understand how "libruls" can't get their mind around that. Well anybody with half a brain knows that when they talk about "small businesses", they don't really mean it, it is just camouflage for the rich. They are the ones who really benefit, not small businesses.

The proof? Well, we've done the experiment. During the Reagan years heavy defense spending produced economic expansion, at the price of creating a national debt triple the previous value. This petered out into a severe recession during the Presidency of papa Bush. Clinton turned around, and raised taxes moderately on "the rich". Republicans at the time screamed their predictable scream that he would wreck the economy. Instead, the deficit was brought under control, interest rates dropped, the economy boomed. Were small businesses hurt by this? Well, heck no, 5.9 million new ones were created- far more than during either Bush's term. But more important than balancing the budget, this worked because it was a BALANCED tax policy. The rich benefitted- the stock market increased 300% - they were happy to pay a little more in taxes! Why were things so great? Because the MIDDLE CLASS prospered. It's the numbers stupid - there are so many more of them! When tax policy is not skewed to insanely benefit the rich, this leverages benefits to the middle class. They are the ones that need to spend for the economy to be healthy! They are the ones that support small businesses. Well, duh! The rich? Just how many yachts can they buy?

So then we did the experiment again. Bush II reversed Clinton's policies, and once again put in a highly skewed tax framework. And what happened? Well at first, there was an unimpressive expansion in the economy. And I say unimpressive because he drastically cut taxes, Greenspan held interest rates unnaturally low, and Bush conducted a huge amount of deficit spending (with a Republican Congress rubberstamping all of it) far more than Clinton ever did even when he had a Democratic Congress! With all the levers pushed to maximum stimulus, the economy should have overheated quickly, or at least within a few years after 9/11! But it didn't. Because Bush's stimulus was in the WRONG PLACE. It did not benefit the middle class. So we got 5 million jobs created, 1 million of which have now been shed, slow small business growth, at a cost of 4 trillion dollars added to the debt and a total economic collapse to show for it.

So, let's review whether Boortz' and William's trickle down theories pass the reality test: Reagan/Bush 1 pushed trickle down, the economy grew tepidly and slid into recession (remember in 1992 "It's the economy, stupid?"). Clinton reverses policy and the economy booms. Rich, middle class, and poor alike are happy. Bush 2 goes back to trickle down - and the need to stimulate the economy by holding those interest rates down, among other things, causes what is shaping up to be the biggest economic downturn since the Great Depression.

The only possible conclusion? Jobs are NOT created by giving tax breaks to the rich. They are created when the middle class is healthy and spending, and can actually do it without borrowing insanely. Does anyone lament the death of trickle down? Good-bye to bad garbage I say.

Posted by: orrg1 | October 9, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for posting the link to this great article!

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/6

Anyone who thinks they know McCain needs to read this!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I loved the actuary's entry. The statistics are in!! A system of health care that covers everyone is not possible, it's a pipe dream! Wake up Great Britain, wake up Germany, France, Sweden, Norway, Holland, and Canada. Wake up Australia, Finland, Ireland, and New Zealand. And Cuba, a srawny little dictator ridden island nation like you, forget about it!

Oh, wait, all every single person in everyone of those countries has access to very good health care. Ummmm, let me run a few more numbers.....

Posted by: lov'nit | October 9, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Those of you who emphasize Obama's middle name, whether you admit it or not, do so for one reason: you are racists and xenophobes. There would be no other reason for doing so. Perhaps you have no problem looking yourself in the mirror, showing you lack integrity. Forutnately, when I look in the mirror, I do not see you.

Posted by: MirrorMirror | October 9, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

In 2004, the polls said that Senator Kerry was going to win...oops.

Posted by: Paula | October 9, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"That is one fear I have of Obama, he does not want to bring the parties together. Both candidates are far from perfect but we need unity."
Posted by: Franchise
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Franchise, Would you call the McCain/Palin campaign on of unity? Would you say that bringing Palin, probably one of the most polarizing political figures to hit the circut in a long time, onto the ticket is a way to unify the country? If yes, then wow, I fear for your definition of unity.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 9, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I have voted both parties over the years. I'm not stuck in the one party crap. But I could never vote for McCain. First, he is just like Bush-acts like he is king. 2nd, he selected that goof for VP. and 3rd, the more I watch him, age has begun to take over. He forgets things, acts childish at times and now has resorted to lies to get elected because allot of his ideas aren't any good. We don't need another jerk in the big office.

Posted by: jpb | October 9, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

You don't have to delve in the past. Senator McCain says he will let us know the names of the congressmen asking for earmarks. The largest earmark included in the 700 billion bailout just passed goes to ALASKA's congressman. Did we hear even a peep from McCain-Palin campaign? That's the character of this ticket.

Posted by: Mary Joseph | October 9, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I've watched this political circus waiting for one of the candidates to screw up. The first strike against McCain was his choice of an inexperienced, political gnat with the personality of an undertaker. The possibility of her being in control of our nation if McCain dies is absurd and alarming. This former Hillary supporter is voting for "That One."

Posted by: Puget Sounder | October 9, 2008 12:07 PM | Report abuse

concerned grandmother , did you know that Palin husband belonged to a terrorist group in Alaska and that Palin herself addressed the terrorist group. May god make a miracle on you and save that sick mind of yours

Posted by: joe | October 9, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Concerned Grandmother---

McCain supporter's poster child

Uninformed, angry, and old.

Posted by: DougH1 | October 9, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

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'Concerned Grandmother': You wrote that Obama 'bought a million plus home on a 12K salary' and claimed that was a fact.

It isn't. Obama has released his tax records. His 2005 financial disclosure form states that he received $378,239 in book royalties, and $847,167 in a book advance. That's in addition to his senate salary (and state senators are paid more than 12K!). Can you do the math?

If you were truly concerned with the facts, and not just with smearing Obama, you'd have known all that.
"

It is no need to discuss this one as long as it does not against law.

Keep in mind that it is human nature.

If you can pay less for something why would you pay more?

Everyone may want to be on that special list for morgage interest, right?

So promote yourself first.

Posted by: jy2008 | October 9, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

TO CONCERNED GRANDMOTHER; You have your facts correct. Obama's expensive Harvard education was funded by a terrorist organization onces stationed in Texas and the Saudis. He's got friends in all the wrong places and he has brainwashed the America people by changing his positions he speaks about a year ago to other positions which will give him votes. He is a crook, a liar and a communist at heart. And these people want to place the future and safety of America in his hands? Nuts. If he becomes president, I will research and see if our state can leave the union; I believe it has that right and was agreed upon before our state joined the union. We would be much better off than living in socialism.

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With an attitude and hatred like that the sooner you leave the better we will be. Do not let the back door hit you on the way out.

Posted by: gmlawrence | October 9, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The question this election clearly isn't 'who is better for the country'? To be more correct it should be; 'who will ruin the country in the least amount of time?'


Answer: Obama.

Posted by: Honest Truth! | October 9, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

SHAME on the McCain campaign for promoting violence and thinking it is acceptable to label Obama as a terrorist! This whole election just shows the true colors of the republicans and just confirms every sterotype made to them.. It really is pathetic and just plain stupid.

Posted by: NYC | October 9, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

The real question is can Obama remain un-vetted for the next 20-some days til election day. The Republicans are doing their best to parade his baggage (Resko, Wright, ACORN, Ayers, the fusion socialst party in Chicago, the Kenyan mess) in front of the public, and so far Obama has had the luxury of not being asked about this by the MSM, and he has been able to sit back and not answer any of the questions the Republicans bring up and still the public thinks he is the squeeky clean image of hope and dreams, not the Chicago leftist corrupt thug his baggage indicates. If any of this stuff gains traction, the bubble will burst and his lead will erode.

Posted by: Wiggan | October 9, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

The crowd chants "Kill him" and McCain and Palin just stands there smiling.

These are the people the right considers their "heroes". Pathetic AND dangerous.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

"Every person who has ever made any money knows that the way you get rich is by saving your money, not adding $1 trillion to the national budget."
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Kyle, did you miss the fact that when bush took office, we had a surplus when Clinton left office and now we have a trillion dollar deficit (or somewhere around that)? Get the facts and stop buying into the old cliché of tax and spend democrats. That democratic party died long ago (as unfortunate as I think that is).

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 9, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Ralph G is hilarious, and just messing with you guys.

I have news for all of you, nothing is going change until we can dissolve the 2 party system. The best candidate will be the one will try to bring the 2 parties together. That is one fear I have of Obama, he does not want to bring the parties together. Both candidates are far from perfect but we need unity.

Posted by: Franchise | October 9, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain was shot down while bombing civilians from air in Vietnam. That makes him a war hero ? I see nothing heroic about him.

How on earth did a beauty queen runner-up in Alaska end up being a Governor ? That state surprises me !

Posted by: NYC-Ravi | October 9, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

It's the book of Revelation, not Revelations. And nowhere does it say anything about who the antichrist is, and what his background is.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/antichrist.asp

Posted by: SP | October 9, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's son is in Iraq. The Republicans might try to kill him and win the sympathy vote in a last ditch effort to save the presidency for McCain

So scary because it just might be posible.

Posted by: Tim | October 9, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

An organized, effective campaign that was behind in the polls only because of outside circumstances would have a chance at getting back into it. But McCain's clumbsy, lurching campaign doesn't have the competence to pull it off - even if it was possible in this economic environment, which I doubt. When you add the fact that the Obama campaign is one of the most organized and best funded political operations in history, I think that it is essentially game over for McCain. The best he can do now is make the race closer and avoid a landslide.

Posted by: Steve | October 9, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

My friends, my friends, vote for me and I promise you a 72 year old president with reoccurring melanoma, a frequently fatal cancer. I promise you an air-head vice president who believes that we are in the last days of our planet, who thinks dinosaurs roamed the earth less than six thousand years ago, who thinks she will not have to govern because Jesus will come and rule the world.

Be afraid, be really afraid. Pray that this does not come to pass. Prostrate yourselfs before your deity and ask Him or Her that this will not come to pass. Ask that this madness will not happen.

Posted by: DavidGD620 | October 9, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

As one well known baseball man said, IT AIN'T OVER 'TILL IT'S OVER!!!!.

To everyone who sees thru Obama and has done their research on this communist leaning man, email friends & family urging them to support a ture, honorable country loving man, McCann. Tell your neighbors what you think; blog for McCann, send him some money even tho it might be $5 or $10. This is a very serious campaign; it is not just about whether the Democrats or the Republicans win the presidency; it is about whether America will remain a democracy. The German people did nothing in the 30s and 40s, most remained silent...you know what happened.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

McCain's a dummy and we've had a dummy in the White House for eight years. Obama graduated first in his class at Harvard.

I'll take the smart guy over the dumb guy.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I think we should be cautious with the "old bums out" strategy. If Sen. Obama wins the White House, and the Dems also control both houses, that could be a bit dangerous. Anytime one party has controlled both the legislature and the executive it has been a time of increased government spending. Since we are coming off of 8 years of unparalleled government spending, I hope we can hold an Obama administration to his idea about a massive audit of government programs. I would think the Obama campaign would want to make that a major highlight in the closing months considering how much spending has been in the news as of late.

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Posted by: Squatty HJ | October 9, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Yes, McCain has already lost, and he knows it. He made the comment in an interview that when a campaign puts out nothing but negative ads, it's because they have no policies and no substance. Unfortunatly for him, that is where his campaign is. No ads about policies or substance, just attacks on Obama. He has demonstrated that his ethics are situational, and that his temperment is eratic. He is more concerned with APPEARING to be decisive, insted of taking time to asses the situation and BEING decisive. When the pressure is on, a candidates' true nature comes out. We are seeing McCains' true nature, and it's not pretty, and it certainly doen't inspire confidence.

Posted by: Hank | October 9, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I would have loved to have been wrong about Bush.
"They'll greet us with flowers" Cheney
"We'll be in and out in 3 months" Rumsfeld
"Iraqi oil will pay for the war" Wolfowitz
"Saddam has WMD's", "Saddam has links to Al-Qaida" Bush etc

OVER 4,000 Americans Dead so far
OVER 30,000 Americans wounded so far
AL-Qaida as strong as ever...
Bin-Laden still free....

Number of Iraqi's who flew planes on 9/11 - 0
Number of Iranian's who flew planes on 9/11 - 0
Number of Saudi's who flew planes on 9/11 - 15

Who are our real enemies, those that McCain-Bush have sold to the American people or ?

NOCAIN
NOWAR

Posted by: NoCain | October 9, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Just One Day from the Washington Composte Front Page
Thursday, October 9, 2008 | 11:43 a.m. ET

You decide - fair and balanced!


McCain & Palin's Name In the Title of everyone.

McCain in a Bear Market - negative
Running from reality - negative
Question for Palin - negative
McCain's Dubious Mortgate Offer - negative
Has McCain Alread lost? - negative
Can McCain Win? - negative


NoBama name mentioned once!

From Outisider to Ultimate Insider - NoBama positive
MoveOn Grows up - Left wing positive
Can Obama handle Military Friction? - neutral

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Yes, thinkforaminute...

We're all a making $245,000 a year and just about to get that next raise. Oh, wait... there's less than 5% of people who even make that much.

But sure, that's our biggest problem - rich people won't be motivated anymore! Thank god it's just my 401k disappearing and not that.

Why don't you come up with some real criticism about something that could actually cause financial collapse like say... deregulation?

Posted by: Franklin | October 9, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin's son is in Iraq. The Republicans might try to kill him and win the sympathy vote in a last ditch effort to save the presidency for McCain

Posted by: conspiracy_foiler | October 9, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Look at all this crap on the posting. You can tell that Obama has a bunch of Young computer geeks sitting in a room flooding the Internet with posting. He has enough over seas money he can afford it. McCain and palin must make really short speeches because all the media reports is one or two lines of the speeches. Check out who Obama has surrounded his self with, two men from Pakistan in charge if his donations. A political adviser who was born in Iran. another adviser who was having regular contact with Hamas. Be careful who you vote for.

Posted by: fnp9 | October 9, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Yes, there are issues of character, behavior, associations, etc... and the political junkies and wonks will all spout and debate them. But the public generally considers all that to be just the noise of the talking heads.

I believe the choice in the 2008 election will come down to making a clear distinction between the world views:

Obama World View: America is a greedy evil which must be restrained. Government is the answer to the problems of the downtrodden. Taxation's purpose is to redistribute wealth and to manipulate behavior.

McCain World View: America is a powerful force for GOOD in the world and the people can accomplish great things if they are UNCHAINED. Americans are the most charitable people on the face of the earth and don't need Government to decide where to distribute their charity for them. Taxation is a necessary evil to generate revenues for the appropriate business of Government, which is constitutionally limited.

If this distinction is clearly drawn, and the producers still outnumber the dependent (not a foregone conclusion anymore), the choice for McCain is clear.

Posted by: edeldoug | October 9, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

From "Make Believe Maverick"

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/6

By any standard, McCain treated her contemptibly. Whatever his dreams of getting laid in Rio, he got plenty of ass during his command post in Jacksonville. According to biographer Robert Timberg, McCain seduced his conquests on off-duty cross-country flights — even though adultery is a court-martial offense. He was also rumored to be romantically involved with a number of his subordinates.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

McCant/Falin have no choice. Like a possum cornered, they are showing their teeth. They are scared, not of how Obama would lead as President, but of losing the election.

They want their supporters to not only be scared but to scare others so McBush/Impaler can win.

It's not going to work this time. People are more scared than ever. Not of whether Obama was friends with a guy who protested the Vietnam war with violence when Obama was 8 years old. They aren't scared that McCain's adulterous tendancies that caused him to leave his first wife for the young rich Cindy will reappear.

People are scared that their retirement funds will not recover for a decade. This works in Obama's favor because, if elected, he would have not only beaten the very successful Repugnicant election machine, he will actually have the intelligence to lead us out of this mess.

We are seeing the death of supply side economics having given it a full-blown test in the last 8 years. We had its advocates in all 3 branches of government. No anti-trust cases, no minimum wage increases, the successful vilification of unions and other populous tools to counter corporate greed.

Good riddens. Until, of course, the next generation. Once everyone forgets these last 8 years, the Repugnicants will be back. Those who don't know the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them. Republicans have always, and will always capitalize on ignorance.

Posted by: DougH1 | October 9, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Concerned Grandmother

I understand your concerns but there are things called scholarships and student loans. Obama might have actually gotten the grades and loans etc to get into those schools. He bought a million dollar home because he wrote a book that made him quiet a bit of money. So he has the right to use those profits any way he sees fit. He has one home and one car. His wife does not wear 300,000 dollar outfits when the American people are hurting. I think that you should be less concerned on how he got through school then how is McCain going to help others when he himself is way out of touch with voters and the economy.

Posted by: gmlawrence | October 9, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Well I'm not American, but I feel very concern about the election in this country as it will definitly ahve influence on my future.
The crisis that had originating form Wall Street, because of too much laxism in finacial regulation, is affectiing me to the point that I'm wondering how I'm going to survive without closing down my business.
The decision of a few 300million lead the world to a disaster, so as far as I'm concern, American people should be abble to vote for their president, but so does the rest of the world, I don't understand why is it that the world has to stay passive and powerless watching 300million deciding their futurs.
If MCCain passes, All I wish is the complete collapse of teh USA, that th country doesn't come back to its previous levels, and that foreign governments sale their US tresory Bond to finish the jobs.
I don't see why is it that the world has to accept the leadership of the USA, while it's proven to be disastrous for peace and prosperity worldwide.
To all of you, vote Mc Cain, so that we can finish this up, and get rid of US disastrous leadership in the world.


Posted by: jdeware | October 9, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I have heard so much crap from my friends, who are seemingly all voting for McCain because I can see clearly that Obama is, by far, the obvious choice. I run my own business, my household income is close to that being affected by some more taxation and I am white. The fact that McCain fans seem not to be understanding is that the economy is in shreds and without an intelligent and well thought out reparation plan, nobody at any level of the tax bracket is going to have any fun. One of my best friends, a real estate agent, is hurting with the market as it is, but voting for McCain? What gives? I tried to explain that Obama is best suited to fixing the economy and thereby allowing middle income folks to have more money to change houses, but he is sold already. He complains about his health coverage also, but again, does not see that Obama's plan helps him, but McCains does not come close. You would think his decision is religion driven, but he is not religious?!?!?!??! I am voting for Obama, simply because I am not an idiot, apparently, however, my friends are!

Posted by: Steven | October 9, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I am truly concerned when I see a large number of people in our society fail to ask questions regarding the candidate they support. Obama has had several (not one), but several associations that are extremely radical and prone to spewing hate for large segments of our society. Obama is an intelligent man, and I find it hard to believe that he is naive enough not to know the people that he associates with. What bothers me the most is that the liberal press and democrats are not demanding answers. Why are you not demanding that his credentials be substantiated? I'm not saying that he is not a potential leader, but there is no record in which there is absolute proof. There is only associations, which are very questionable. I say pass on Obama and let him serve a few more years in the Senate, so we know where he really stands. His words are pretty, but I prefer plain talk with facts backing up the words.

Posted by: Debatn | October 9, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Palin/McCain 08

An erratic angry Irish Bastard and Igoo Trash. some vision of america for the 21st century.

Posted by: sue | October 9, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

McCain -
Bad Student, 5th from last in class
Bad pilot, 3 crashes before being shot down in Nam
Bad Senator, Re-wrote regulatuions so Keating could loot his bank
Oh yeah, we need more incompetence in our government

Posted by: J Welch | October 9, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

McCain on the American people:

Q: "At what point do you stop doing what you think is right and you START doing what the majority of the American people want."

A: "Again, I disagree with what the MAJORITY of the American people want."

Too bad we don't have a Democracy where the leaders are elected by the Majority to do what the Majority wants.

Posted by: Mike Thomas | October 9, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

"McCain's Problems"

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have practiced socialism for years by liberals.

It is one thing which is good to keep poors up to America's dreams.

It is another thing which is the root cause of current financial crisis which now impacts most of the middle class.

Socialism might be a progressive thing to America. But if you push it too hard it will only sacrify the middle class.

Do not bother the one, that one, the great one.

All current leaders have no clue how to lay a ground for Americans in global economy.

If you do not know what works you should have known what does not.

Posted by: jy2008 | October 9, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

TO CONCERNED GRANDMOTHER; You have your facts correct. Obama's expensive Harvard education was funded by a terrorist organization onces stationed in Texas and the Saudis. He's got friends in all the wrong places and he has brainwashed the America people by changing his positions he speaks about a year ago to other positions which will give him votes. He is a crook, a liar and a communist at heart. And these people want to place the future and safety of America in his hands? Nuts. If he becomes president, I will research and see if our state can leave the union; I believe it has that right and was agreed upon before our state joined the union. We would be much better off than living in socialism.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

The AARP has cancelled any presence of volunteers in or around McCain campaign rallys because of the dangerous atmosphere that has recently been created by the crowd frenzy whipped up by Palin inciting terrorist claims per Obama and Ayers.
Has anyone checked or told them that the Annebergs (republicans)are the ones who have supported and backed Ayers educational programs in Chicago to which Obama has been a board member?
McCain is keen to always have the Annebergs support and backing.
Connect those dots!!
Why does not the main stream cover this very viable information???

Posted by: Kathleen | October 9, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Hey Ralph G. from San Jose ,
Have you ever considered trying out performing at comedy clubs. You're good, man!

Posted by: SAm | October 9, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I think people are swayed to vote for a candidate the same way they are swayed to a particular football team. I have no clue. But the back and forth, name calling, and staunch defense of individuals that no one other than close family, really knows is borderline on psychotic. The real problem lies in the people we elect to the congress and senate, local mayors and governors, and judges. The liberal mentality of political correctness, lack of God, and loss of morality is the problem. You don't have to be a christian to live right. There are too many criminals in office, and too few honest and decent people in the world.

We need to rethink the DC government. It is a hotbed of corruption, back alley deals, lobbyists, and lawyers, double talking us and each other. When our lives are changed by a small group of speculators (oil) who do not actually possess the cash to buy or the storage to hold, but manage to drive up the cost of one item that chain reacts to everything in our economy, then there is a problem. We dont need the government to regulate, we the people need to regulate, by using our dollars, and by choosing not to purchase items on a whim, with a credit card, because we want it. We have become spoiled, rude, anti social and lazy.
We need to steer this country back to a moral and just land. Unfortunatley the damage is done, as we have raised an entire genration of lazy, self indulgent, spoiled kids who are now adults, and think they have to have every new gadget, car or shirt that some drugged out, surgically altered hollywood star has. The media controls your lives, and you continue to eat at the trough like pigs.

When was the last time you passed up a good sale, didnt buy that new phone, flat tv, ipod, shirt, skirt, purse etc? Judging by the credit debt amased by this country , I would say never.

I got a wake up call, after 20 years of work, paying on a house, I got notice that my rates were going up 4%. That put my payments out of reach. I had credit cards, kids in college, a 401k. I was living the life. I have now paid off my cards, renegotiated my mortgage, and I am close to a 750 credit score. how did I go from 600 to 750. It was easy and hard. i just stopped buying anything that I couldnt eat. I stopped buying fast food. i changed my own oil. I cut my cell phone contract back. Eliminated my home phone all together. Cut my power bill by turning off things I wasnt using. We went ultra lean. It was tough, but now we are so close to being debt free (other than mortgage) and we try to share this with others but they will not listen. Mass marketing media is like hypnosis. They want you to spend money,and they don't care that you go in to debt. Who pays you other than your job?? Why do you support someone that doesn't support you?

Vote for whoever you want. But do not blame anyone when you get what you wish for.

Grow up, take some responsibility for your own actions, cutback your spending, and save for when things get really bad.

Posted by: ForclosedOn | October 9, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Most of the post here have no substance or fact/s included. It scares me that uneducated minds such as these are actually going to be selecting our next President! Do your homework and use the brain God gave you, you will not have to look far to find out who is behind Obama and where such a "poor" child raised on welfair, and who attended the most prestigeous colleges, bought a million plus home on a 12K salary, took a trip around the world (mostly muslum countrys) upon graduation..gets his money and support! THESE are FACTS! I do not totally agree with everything McCain stands for, but I certainly will not vote for the devil either. God help us all!

Posted by: Concerned Grandmother
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Concerned Grandmother, you are free to vote for whomever you want. However, spreading outrageous and untrue crapola says more about you than it does about Senator Obama. May God HELP YOU and your sick thinking!

Posted by: NinaK | October 9, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

"Most of the post here have no substance or fact/s included. It scares me that uneducated minds such as these are actually going to be selecting our next President! Do your homework and use the brain God gave you, you will not have to look far to find out who is behind Obama and where such a "poor" child raised on welfair, and who attended the most prestigeous colleges, bought a million plus home on a 12K salary, took a trip around the world (mostly muslum countrys) upon graduation..gets his money and support! THESE are FACTS! I do not totally agree with everything McCain stands for, but I certainly will not vote for the devil either. God help us all!
Posted by: Concerned Grandmother
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Concerned Grandmother, "these are facts?" where did you happen to get these facts? Please do enlighten us.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 9, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

>I am amazed so many Americans are mesmerized by slick willy Obama,

We're amazed so many americans are mesmerized by Bush/McCainand Plain.

I mean Palin? Joe six-pack Palin? (Great more white trash running the country.)

If McCain put crap on plate as his running mate, you sheep would still vote for it. Oh, wait he did!

Paln is Igoo trash.

Posted by: sam | October 9, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Thinkforaminute...

If people stopped trying to make money after they reached $250K because they were scared of the tax consequence they really would not very succesful. Basically all that does is for even if you make $1 over the $250K, you would keep 60 cents or so of it (not sure what the exact percentage is, but its not too relevant), while 40 cents went to taxes. This is versus making a $1 and keeping 65 cents and 35 cents for tax. either way the harder you work and the more money you make the higher your bank balance is at the end of the day.

Posted by: SimpleSimon | October 9, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Can someone explain to me how the world got turned upside down. Everywhere I look there are statements like the following: "If he deals only with the economy, it plays to the Democrats natural advantage." Since when did the democrats hold an advantage when it comes to the economy? Every person who has ever made any money knows that the way you get rich is by saving your money, not adding $1 trillion to the national budget. Democrats have only ever wanted to spend more money, so explain to me how that process of thinking gives them a natural advantage in terms of the economy?
And if you want to use the argument of Bush being the reason the economy is where it is, let me educate you. It was President Clinton who pressured Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac to lower their credit standards to give more people loans, which is how we got into this huge mess in the first place (as reported by the NY Times).

Posted by: Kyle | October 9, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Obama has run a very good campaign. This shows he can pretty much handle running a government.
McCain has run a disasterous campaign, including a VP pick that is an example of his sad and inept leadership.
Now McCain is trying a dangerous diversion. Jonn; is "winning" worth starting a civil war? Spewing hatred and lies; my God, what has happened to you?

Posted by: rick | October 9, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/business/31view.html

For those who claim that the Republican philosophy of trickle-down economics works, please read the article. And do yourself a favor, and buy the book: Unequal Democracy by Larry M. Bartels.

By virtually every measure, from GDP to income growth to the strength of the dollar to the DOW Jones Industrial Average, the economy performs better under democrats than under republicans.

Posted by: patrick | October 9, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Kerry was actually not ahead in the polls...most of the time he trailed Bush in the electoral state by state map...only for a day or two was he ever as strong as Obama has been as of recent, Kerry was tied in New Jersey the day of the election and trailing in Wisconsin, Obama is holding all of Kerry's states plus NM and Iowa to give him a solid 264...problem for McCain is Obama needs only one more state out of the remaining 8 battleground states, and Obama leads in 6 of them: NV, CO, MO, OH, PA, FLA, and VA and is tied in NC and trailing by a point or 2 in Indiana... the fact that Indiana and NC are even mentioned in this category is a problem for McCain...I am uneasy at the sheer hatred some people have for Obama and their misguided comments like "he will be impeached for incompetence..." I think much of this is simple racism/prejudice/ignorance, perhaps subconscious...A lot of people talk about the Bradley effect...I think this election you will see a Reverse Bradley Effect. I think many people are afraid to tell pollsters that they support Obama, and afraid to tell neighbors as they don't want to get into a huge debate, especially with the culturally insensitive, and those who are racist or biased...I think when people get behind the curtain, they will think about their bills, their loans, their health care costs...and they will say you what? I know who Obama is, he's not a scary black man, he's not a terrorist, he's an American, he's a family man, he's an intelligent, thoughtful man who loves his family and his country...his wife is gracious and giving and a nurturing woman...and McCain/Palin? There is no comparison, McCain is the past he is angry, he is fighting cultural wars from decades ago, his running mate in Palin is simply not ready to lead, Americans see that...they take no comfort in her being in the white house...they will vote Obama/Biden...and the margin in the popular vote will be small, perhaps, but the electoral map will be 300+. McCain's campaign is filled with contradictions and differing messages, less regulation vs.more regulation and reform...free markets vs. Gov't buying mortgages and socialist buyouts...populist ideas of taking on CEOs and wall street vs. deregulation of wall street and the health care industry...it's just a Democrat year..the message is easier to digest...CHANGE...are you better off than you were 8 years ago? Restoring prestige in the world and authority both militarily but also economically and culturally. From a purely politically standpoint, McCain's time was in 2000...he was slandered by the bush campaign...so he hired them this time...he lost his message, he lost his standing and credibility...he said he wouldn't "telegraph his punches" in the debate with Obama, referring to his policy with Pakistan...but that is exactly what his campaign is doing, telegraphing it's punches, going negative...it's not going to work...Bush was better at it with Kerry but his timing was better too. No matter what comes out about Obama in the next 3 weeks the people ain't buying it...an Osama Bin Ladin videotape...whatever...old news about a 60s war protestor/domestic terrorist...perhaps past drug use...it doesn't matter...it's all been telegraphed.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

msg - You sound like YOU hate America.

The last election I watched as your party screamed about how you had WON. OMG we WON. Everything was about WINNING!!! And then your party destroyed our country. Seeing that you want to do it some more?

Nope, YOU, sir , are the America hater.

Posted by: Marcus | October 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

McCain is a lying, disingenuous, bitter old man who will do anything to win the Presidency because he is a dangerous perpetual narcissist.

And...yet people are concerned that Obama smokes?

That's grasping at straws if I've ever seen it.

Posted by: the ex | October 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Barack Obama has to win this election at all costs, because if John McCain gets in there....we will not have a country; we will drop down to being a 3rd world country. Barack wants to build good relations with countries; McCain wants to fight with them all. The celebrities get behind Barack Obama because they know that the middle-class drives the economy. The middle-class go to the movies and download the music to give the celebs their livelihoods. Did you notice that John McCain dropped those celebrity ads about Obama? He had to because he has Sarah Palin, as a top political celebrity. Palin is another reason that we must keep McCain out of the White House. If you care about your future, the future of your family and friends, as well as this country's future, you have to vote for Barack Obama.

Posted by: RadianChalant | October 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

McCain just has bad editors. The slogan he told them to use was "[FUUCK THE]COUNTRY FIRST."

Posted by: McCain's a goner | October 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

'Concerned Grandmother': You wrote that Obama 'bought a million plus home on a 12K salary' and claimed that was a fact.

It isn't. Obama has released his tax records. His 2005 financial disclosure form states that he received $378,239 in book royalties, and $847,167 in a book advance. That's in addition to his senate salary (and state senators are paid more than 12K!). Can you do the math?

If you were truly concerned with the facts, and not just with smearing Obama, you'd have known all that.

Posted by: Aengil | October 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Mc Cain is an old asinine,desperate, erratic,arrogant,incapable grumpy,confused,looser,nasty hysterical,irrelevant,dangerous,dishonest,unpatriotic,hypocrite,angry,fool,uncivilized,inexperienced,lost,slanderous,pathetic old man.and this independent voter and war veteran is going to vote for"that one"

Posted by: joe | October 9, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Since most on here want to do nothing but sling mud around to them I say: Your Mother!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Here we go again. Anybody who does not like Obama's lack of experience, lack of character or his socialistic policies just must be a racist. Enough. Judge him of who he is as a man and who he chosen to listen to and follow for the last 20+ years. He is a danger to our way of life, if the brainwashings of rev. Right, Ayer, Farakan, etc had any impact on him. I will not vote for Barack Hussein Obama.
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Alexandra. With your final sentence you just made the case against your first sentence.

Posted by: lhummer | October 9, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

I wanted McCain to win in 2000. If he had won the Republican primary then, the race between Bush and Gore would not have been close. McCain would have won clearly.

Sadly, he is not the same person now. Losing to Bus then has made him cranky, disgruntled and even more impatient. Sarah is a joke.

Enough Said.

Posted by: NYC-Ravi | October 9, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

This Ralph G guy is spouting nonsense, so here's some clarification about Islam:
1. There's no such thing as Muslim descent. Islam is a religion, you're free to join it or leave it. Same way there's no Christian descent.
2. If Obama were Muslim, why would he be in church for 20 years? I'm Muslim and while I respect Christianity and its values, I have no interest in going to church, I worship the same God, but in a mosque.
Why would a supposed Muslim sit in a church for 20 years, be married by a reverend, and baptize his kids??? These right-wing nuts say Obama's Muslim, then accuse him of being a Rev. Wright follower out of the other side of their mouth. It makes no sense!

Posted by: OrdinaryMuslim | October 9, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Yup..he didnt know, he didnt hear, he wasnt aware and he only spent 5 hours on Rezko- see the pattern ??

Posted by: jimbo | October 9, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

You do realize that ending thw war with Iraq doesn't mean that the money we're spending (it's mostly borrowed, and we, the people have to pay it back) for the war, won't be available for other purposes, don't you? It's a ridiculous assertion for anyone to suggest that the money we're spending on the war could be better speabt elsewhere. Arguably this statement is true, however; the funds would have to be legislated, and they would still have to be borrowed. My point is, that unless we start heading toward a "pay as you go" system, no President, no administration, can make any sort of meaningful change. Overwhelmingly, America's Citizens feel that government should "stop spending". Certainly, the public opposition against the Wall Street bailout is evidence of this fact. Only one candidate has even suggested a "freeze" on spending, and it wasn't Barack Obama! Folks, when you figure out what it is you really want, pick a candidate that has tendencies in the same direction. Never elect a candidate he runs for office telling you he'll cut taxes, while he's telling you he'll increase spending. There are no huge caches of government money stashed away for this sort of government, your taxes and those of your children and grand children will have to pay for all of these programs. Many who are falling behind financially seem to forget (depending on what state you live in) that 30 to 50% of their income is confiscated by federal, state and local taxation. It hardly makes sense to elect a candidate who promises more expanded programs, and new public works and infrastructure programs providng government jobs, and then be told that 95% of the population will have lower taxes. Here's a clue, less than 95% of the United States population is either gainfully employed or tax payers to begin with.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | October 9, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Ralph G. San Jose:

You are a bigot. The hate you spew is un-American and there is no place for that in this country. America stands for diversity and tolerance. If continue w/ your racist remarks, let me say on behalf of this country, you are not welcome in this great nation. You are un-American. Please leave.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

McCann also had a problem at the last debate. Obama not answer the questions and talking too, too long, interrupting also. But of course Obama knows it best, does not listen to any one these days; not even to our generals and chiefs of staff. How will this man so arrogant and pompous take advise from his cabinet if elected?

TO THE AMERICAN JEWISH VOTER; OBAMA DID NOT ANSWER TOM'S QUESTION; IF ELECTED AND ISRAEL WERE MILITARILY ATTACHED, WOULD YOU GO TO THE U.N. OR WOULD YOU DEFEND ISRAEL? He went around that question, talking about Iran, etc. McCann just said "Yes, I would defend Israel and not go to the U.N. because Russia & China hav veto power.

DOES ISRAEL HAVE A FRIEND IN OBAMA? Dream on.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

People and Politicians of the world watch the USA, whether they admit it or not, for leadership. Dirty political tatics showcased in the US are taken and used by other leaders of the world to try and take/hold power.

Bush stole the election in 2000 and how many examples since of crying foul have you heard form other leaders in the world that wanted to gain/hold on to power...

Children watch the behaviour of Parents and will begin to do as they do. No one expects parents to be perfect all the time, but to maintain respect of their kids, they sure should try!

Dirty politics has no place in this century, and I feel sorry for uneducated folk that fall prey to fear creating tactics. Win with your policies, win with your depth, win support of those educated folk that can help others not so educated understand, win with your ethics, and lead the world to a more ethical future!

Republicans speak of free markets, lower taxes, and lower government involvement and spending. Yet Democrats are/have been more fiscally responsible, reduced deficit spending, had a budget surplus, which Republicans quickly spent, and dived right back into Deficit spending in a HUGE way!

Wake up America before it is to late and you lose the leadership position you've long fought for. It will disappear and you find yourself number 4 or 7 on the list. How would that make you feel to feel you are being forced into things by other countries more powerful then you!

You need to earn respect in the world, not just by projecting power...we get it you have lots of sofisticated guns and can blow things up! But why can't you seem to engage and earn the respect of others in the world and try help them learn to like and respect you instead of fear you and what you can do to hurt them. LEAD BY EXAMPLE! If Otheres do what you do, you cry foul and wave a big sitck and tell them to go home. What will you do when/if that happens to you?

I only hope enough of you wake up and smell the coffee in time! Get out and VOTE! But take time to read a little bit of real information (not the slander you see on the net/news) and decide in a smart way, not an emotional or fearful or hateful one!

Education is power, not war!

Posted by: wacky3456 | October 9, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

The Bush regime can be best described in the KJV bible book of JUDE

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I am so tired of people calling me racist for voting McCain. Last time I checked about 95% of the African American population were voting Obama; I would love to see the public outcry if 95% of the white voting block voted McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous
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90+ of Afican Americans voted for Bill Clinton both times. Clinton is a white man! What does this say? All this says is that African Americans are DEMOCRATS and VOTE DEMOCRAT!! Your reasoning does not hold water.

Posted by: NinaK | October 9, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

McCain = OLD Ideas + Bush + Grumpy Persona = LOSER

Posted by: thegwoe | October 9, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

McCain will lose because he is an angry old egomaniac who wants more wars!

ARE YOU READY FOR MORE WARS?

Posted by: Ron L. | October 9, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who doesn't like Obama should look at the following facts:

1) He is smart and shrewd enough to dismantle Hillary Clinton chances
2) He has been cool and consistent even in big pressure situations
3) He has plans and policy laid out in details
4) He has amazing advisors and surrounds himself with people with good policies like Warren Buffet
5) He has outmaneuvered McCain, a seasoned politicians and driving him to be defensive,
6) He making McCain defend his own territory
7) He is 10 times popular worldwide than McCain, which means he will have support from entire world community

Now if you don;t know him, understand this, if he can do all this, running a country is not any different. A smart person who listens to smart people and can outsmart seasoned politicians can easily get things done in Washington. Not only that he can get us back to lead the world and mend fences. McCain is tiring, I respect him but he is surrounded by the same goons who ran Bush/Cheney in last 8 years.

Posted by: Lalit | October 9, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Thank you Palin/McCain for enciting a culure war!

Bravo! Country first my ass.

Posted by: laura | October 9, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Most of the post here have no substance or fact/s included. It scares me that uneducated minds such as these are actually going to be selecting our next President! Do your homework and use the brain God gave you, you will not have to look far to find out who is behind Obama and where such a "poor" child raised on welfair, and who attended the most prestigeous colleges, bought a million plus home on a 12K salary, took a trip around the world (mostly muslum countrys) upon graduation..gets his money and support! THESE are FACTS! I do not totally agree with everything McCain stands for, but I certainly will not vote for the devil either. God help us all!

Posted by: Concerned Grandmother | October 9, 2008 11:42 AM


He wrote two best selling books after college. That is how he afforded his house and was able to pay off his student loans. He also worked to get to where he is, as opposed to the nepotism that jump started McCain's political career.

Posted by: RW | October 9, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Sadly, this election is not longer about selecting the best candidate, it's about selecting the lesser of evils. Neither ticket is particularly attractive. Carly Fiorina was right when she said neither presidential candidate is suitable to run a major corporation, thay have an inability to make tough decisions and accept the fact that some fallout will come. (Please don't go off on the CEO's that created some of or current issues, that was not her point) The hardest part of moving forward is accepting that difficult sacrifices must be made - there must be some casualties (business, personal, financial, etc.) in order to make forward progress. No plan is perfect, and a desire to make everybody happy winds up making nobody happy. We can't have a tax policy, healthcare policy, national spending policy, foreign affairs policy, etc. that everyone likes - we simply can't, such policies don't exist because we're all in different situations - that's part of what makes us America. Politicians are too caught up in trying to please everyone that they risk pleasing no one. Nobody is happy with where Bush has left us, not democrats, not republicans, and not the american people. But we have to move on. You learn from the past, you don't dwell on the past. It's important that we move our country forward, not sideways, and certainly not backward. Neither candidate is solely, or even largely, respponsible for our current economic crisis. We are in the midst of a crisis situation that required so many adverse events to occur simultaneously, and the chain reaction of events is simply horrifying. Although both candidates say they predicted some of this, nobody predicted a crisis of such global magnitude. Regardless, we must move on. I personally favor a McCain & Biden combination because they are both well qualified and people I trust. I know they don't see eye-to-eye on some topics, but I trust them. Unfortunately they're not on the same ticket. The tickets we have to choose from are certainly less than desirable. It's easy for all of us to see why Palin as a potential president is simply frightening - her issues are visible. On the other hand, we are so caught up in how well Obama presents himself and his great eloquence when he speaks that we can't see that he's also frightening. He has no more experience than Palin to be President, he's simply more Presidential when he speaks and the manner in which he carries himself. We identify with Obama as a potential President for these reasons, not because he's qualified. In summary, we have two individuals attached to these tickets that severely lack the qualifications and credentials to be considered for these positions. One continues to remind us of her lack of qualifications each time we see her speak, the other is masterful at hiding his lack of qualifications behind his fantastic presentation skills. In the end, I've got to vote for only one ticket so my vote will go to McCain because I believe he is the better candidate for President. However, if the Obama ticket were reversed (Biden / Obama), that's the way I'd vote. Obama simply isn't qualified to be President. I worry that Obama is the smoke & mirrors that gets us to purchase the product, but we'll wake up one day soon realizing what we actually bought, wanting to return it. Unfortunately in this situation, All Sales are Final.

Posted by: AB | October 9, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

The Carl Jerk Rove days are over. The American public is wise to the lies of this current campaign and we will have it no more. I predict 16 years of rule for the Democrats because it will take that long to even start to forget what the Republicans have done to this country in eight loooong years. Thank God it will be over soon.

Posted by: rps4021 | October 9, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Ron Paul is the answer people, Ron Paul!

Posted by: tom | October 9, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
Republicans...the party is over, quit with the hate spewing fear mongering comments! you're done!!!!!

Posted by: Tom | October 9, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

>NoBama is only concerned with getting power.
He has never shown any concern the issues of the opposite party.
He IS a divider not a uniter.
What issues on the Republican side does relate to?
Gun Rights! Hell no.
Property Rights! Guess again.
Free Markets! You must be joking.

(Yawn) An old, old talking point wrung dry in the primary.

Again, the GOP base talking to the GOP base.

Fall in line like the disciplined sheep you are! bahhhhhh bahhhhhh!

Posted by: sue | October 9, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I am amazed so many Americans are mesmerized by slick willy Obama, he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing. A short list of his buddies:
William Ayers – I hate America
Ludicrous – I hate America
P Diddy- I hate America
Black Panthers – I hate America
Louis Farrakhan – I hate America
Rev Wright – I hate America
Mummer Kaddafi – I hate America
Tony Rezko – I love America
Michell Obama – I hate America
4 years of civil rights muck – UGG
Nancy Pelosi – Save the planet at any cost.
Harry Reid- Worm
DoDD - crook
Barney Frank – crook
Acorn
Obamas buddy who stole the 90mil from fanny & freddi
Im sure I left a half dozen out but Surly this isn’t what we want, is it?
I think the reason stock markets all around the world are crashing regardless of what all the worlds governments are doing to build confidence is because all the rich guys around the world can see the writing on the walls, they can see the stupid American public is getting ready to vote in obama and they know that means so they are getting out of the market now.
God save us all if Farrakhan/ I mean obama gets in…
Posted by: amazed | August 21, 2008 2:03 PM

Posted by: msg | October 9, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Our country has not been a republic for a long time. It has become an oligarchy, ruled by coporations and lobbyists and the military/industrial complex. . As Eisenhower warned, "beware the military/ industrial complex." He, the Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in WWII understood both the need and the danger of allowing it to become too strong. Yet he lead us to victory. Sadly, McCain was & is a part of the military/industrial which will only perpetuate the imbalance. Balance is needed, with calm, detached ability to weigh all sides of a situation. From observation, this former republican, now independent feels that in the best interest of our country, Obama who studied and has taught constitutional law best embodies this ability. McCain's years of being a hot shot maverick are not the kind of experience we need to lead. Leading by pandering to fears is not true leadership. The quality of his judgement was shown in his selection of a VP candidate he image, not substance. Amusing to watch, probably great fun to hang out with as long as you agree with her, Sarah Palin, no doubt sincere in her beliefs, is showing by her words and actions she does not know how to respect those who disagree with her. Many of our enemies in the world are headed by sociopaths or psychopaths. Provoking them with catchy phrases that McCain/Palin use is not going to proetect us. The the ability to step back with calm and detachment,to see what the real danger, and how to respond to it appropriately works when dealing with such people, as individuals or representatives of foreign governments or rogue states. Neither McCain or Palin have shown the ability by nature, experience, inexperience or training or by action. Obama has, repeatedly. Despite rude, arrogant bulldog attacks he responds with calm and respect and quietly, firmly does what is necessary. Obama does not indulge in vicious, personal attacks even when being subjected to them by his opponents.He believes government can either serve us or work against us, and repeatedly offers suggestions for how to make government
serve us. This is very different than socialism or marxism. It is American government as it was intended to be. Put your fears aside and really listen, observe and trust the God within you to help you discern the truth.

Posted by: Kali H | October 9, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

I am amazed at how good americans are at deceiving themselves about their capitalism. Except for the tradition of private enterprise and entrepreneurship, America has been a fairly socialist country for much of the last century. Let us see, some of the most powerful unions in the world, (In real socialist countries, if you strike, you get shot). A vast and fairly good network of public universities and schools. An extensive highway system, most of which was built with government money.Look closely people, you are already a socialist country!

Posted by: ptokax | October 9, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Lets play "Pin the tail on the DONKEY's!

Posted by: NoBama | October 9, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Well I keep hearing in Mccains speeches and Palins even more so that Obama has domestic terrorists as friends. Funny how no one mentions the names of the people Mccains worked hand in hand with over the years. Here's 3 to ponder Helms , Thurmond and Byrd now one of them was even a KKK member all 3 preached hate on a high level.
Last time I checked the KKK is a domestic terrorist organization of the highest level. While the weather underground attemped to bomb the pentagon. The KKK has actually killed and tortured plenty of Americans with its hate filled policy. So before Mccain and Palin cast anymore stones they need to take a good look in the mirror and take a look around them at who they care to work with.
I hope that America wakes up. I just spoke with a cashier at a Walgreens the other night who was going to vote for the Mccain Palin ticket only because she thought Palin was a fiesty woman when I asked her about why she simply said well "I just like her" after I took the time to inform her of what Palin is truly all about things like taking away a womans choice even though her statement about her own daughter was to the effect of "We made a choice to keep the baby". Yet she wants to take that choice away? Then I brought up her interview on Katies show where she could not come up with on the spur of the moment even one more supreme court decision she knew of and several other of the Palin gaffs. The young girl stood behind the counter looking stunned and made this comment "Wow I never knew all of that about her" I told her to go read a little and make her own decision but please do not vote for someone simply because you think she is fiesty.
I live up the street from Mccains office and it almost hurts my soul to know that the devil has a office down the street.
10 homes , 13 cars, a wife who dresses in outfits that are worth more than most Americans homes, A economic advisor that ran a company into the ground and got a bonus as she strolled away from the wreckage she created. Another major staff member that said its a metal recession and said people who are complaining are whiners.
Whats it going to take for people to realize that these people do not care about most Americans. They are out of touch with what most of us deal with on a daily basis. They have no idea what you and I deal with on a daily basis they live in a insulated bubble and are totally out of touch with the average Americans needs and fears.
WAKE UP MY FRIENDS.

Posted by: Stuck In McCains State | October 9, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Ralph G.

With this comment being added to a blog such as this means it is probably time that we were wiped off the map. If we keep 4 more years of the same we will be anyway. The Bush's and the McSames and Palin's want the world to end so if that is the case I say bring it on. Have we become so dumb and Bible thumping that we cannot think for ourselves. I just cannot believe that people see electing Obama as the coming of the Antichrist and our demise. Man what are you on. Do you watch to much TV? I should not be feeding the Troll but that statement is why our country is so messed up.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Im Voting for McCain because he is black.

Posted by: KappaDon | October 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

Ralph G. San Jose - How dare you presume to know G-ds plan!!!

You use this half assed interpretation of the Bible to bear false witness of a man you don't know!
Caution is advised if you want to use G-ds words for your own pride and slander.
When you are gifted with the knowledge of who the anti-christ and you think it's "cool" to tell everyone, go try walking on water first. The wetting down might wake you up.

Posted by: Cassius | October 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

McCain supports the terrorist who shot a MD who is a legal abortion clinic doctor.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

McCann has one hugh problems: the ultra liberal media who is in bed with Obama. They never report the news, just what they want us to believe. Notice on blogs they don't approve so many pro-McCann comments yet approve almost all of pro-Obama. They do not report the negatives about Obama; i.e., his A.C.O.R.N. organization registering dead people, people who do no live in the state they register them in (the entire Dallas Cowboy football team), Obama's communist mentor Frank Marshall Davis who Obama writes about in his book, their meetings in Hawaii; Obama writing about his attending socialist conferenced; who really paid for his expensive Harvard education; where is all of Obama's campaign money coming from, not as one commentor said "from all the common folks" Ha!! The news media is not doing their job. The anchors on the 3 major TV stations are not doing their job. Nice to have seen one during the last debate who has never expressed preference for any candidate, Tom B.

Posted by: Getting tired of it all | October 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

>What a riot reading the angry GOP trailer trash commenting here. "Obama is a radical Muslim Manchurian candidate." No wonder you bozos work swing at McD's.

Then I guess that make Mcain an erratic old white angry Irish bastard. Fair enough?

Posted by: laura | October 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

NoBama is only concerned with getting power.
He has never shown any concern the issues of the opposite party.

He IS a divider not a uniter.

What issues on the Republican side does relate to?

Gun Rights! Hell no.

Property Rights! Guess again.

Free Markets! You must be joking.

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"He will be just like every other deadbeat democratic president who lack the stomach to make tough decisions."
Posted by Anonymous.
...............................
While President Clinton may have missed an opportunity to take down Bin Laden, do you need to be reminded that it was the Bush administration who ignored clear evidence that an attack was imminent. Then they took us into an unjust war and took us away from the target -- our enemy. McCain supported the war and continues to support it with our blood and our tax dollars. The surge? That may have quelled the violence and perhaps it has given Iraqis a chance to take a deep breath. Maybe they can go outside and to the park with relatively less fear. Still, I think it's fair to suggest that as we do draw down our troops (unless victory means never leaving), the violence will return and one of two things will happen. We will replace one dictator with another (and we sure do like to do that) or we will have created an environment for an extreme fundamentalist group to rule Iraq (which considering Iraqi's neighbors, seems more plausable. McCain's continued approach to this problem proves he is not the right leader for the our time.

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 9, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

In response to chilimac's post (below) regarding who found this country, your version of who founded America is a myth.

The Puritans are not unlike the present day christian right. They wanted a greater commitment to Jesus Christ, believed they had the edge on being godly, and didn't think much of people who didn't believe as they did. Some of them were even seperatists (the Pilgrims). They believed that God had supreme power over man's affairs and so they believed that the government, individuals and businesses should follow the teachings of the bible (as the Puritans interpreted it). And they had some crazy notions about women.

They weren't much liked in England or the Netherlands and eventually colonized America for "religious freedom". But the religious freedom they were looking for was freedom to believe as they wanted and to force everyone else to believe the same way. Hence the witch trials.

Fortunately, our founding fathers were smarter than that.


From chilimac:

"Faith in the one and only True God is what is needed for America to return to her forma greatness."

Yes indeed. Let's bring religion even closer to politics, obliterating freedom of religion and establishing a preference of one religious view over all others. That has worked so very well throughout history, and is working so very well in today's cultures.

This country was founded - heck, populated - by people escaping from views like that. And Individuals who believe in "Faith in a true God" are the ones strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up other people who believe in their own "True God."

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Moderation, you say Obama's bogus healthcare?!! Obama's and Hillary's Healthcare programs are the best proposals America ever seen. McCain's Healthcare proposal is to put healthcare in the market, as banks are, and look what just happened!!!!! With McCain's plan more people than the 40 million that already DO NOT have healthcare WILL NOT have coverage.
You are rich or simple you don't understand what McCain's plan means, I encourage you to read his plan carefully.
Healthcare is a human right!! America is the first world country with the worst healthcare program. I know for republicans money is more important than healthcare but for the rest of us mortals is not. The republican ideology is so against human right that is beyond comprehension.

Posted by: nocas | October 9, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Dear readers,
Please take some time out to read this: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/us/politics/09voting.html?ref=us

If you're at all interested in a Democrat winning this election, and you live in a swing state, look at how your own vote is being dismissed. Voters are being removed from the rolls, by the hundreds of thousands.
Example: Colorado has had big voter registration drives, and a big population increase, but the state has recorded a net loss of 100,000 voters. How is this possible??
It's the same in Nevada, Michigan, Indiana, North Carolina, Ohio, etc. Gee, those sound awfully like swing states where Republicans are down. If you live in any of these states please make sure that when you show up on Nov. 4th, they actually let you vote.

Sincerely,
-IL resident who's feeling a little concerned about IL too

Posted by: Chi_man | October 9, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Ralph G, you are a true fuucking nut case. See you in hell!

Posted by: J.H. Christ | October 9, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Ralph G. San Jose

You might want to actually read The Book of Revelations. You know the thing you think you're quoting.
Your quote is made up, a falsehood, a lie, not true.

Posted by: Read don't just copy and paste | October 9, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Texas evangelical leader James Dobson’s Focus on the Family is paying for the attempt to stop the investigation into the Palin family's abuse of power case.

How was that arranged?

Today we will hear the decision by the Supreme Court of Alaska on whether to quash the case or let it be published tomorrow.

By the tone of the questions, it doesnt look like Sarah is going to win. And in Todd's deposition yesterday, he admitted that
1. He is a constant consultant to Sarah in her work as governor
2. He was badgering state employees constantly to fire the trooper.

PS. Since Todd admits he is the power behind the throne, his membership in the secessionist party makes Sarah contemptible, for her rallying people against Obama on the basis of his having a working relationship with Ayers on a couple of occasions. Even Annenberg, a major donor to McCain, works with Ayers.
Todd IS the governor's office, according to his deposition. Its time to investigate Todd, and his membership in the secessionist AIP, since he says she uses him as a confidant about so much state business and HE was the attack dog against the trooper.

Posted by: Bruce | October 9, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

In response to: Ralph G. San Jose - Anit-Christ

Could you please post the actual Bible passage for reference?

It would be most appreciated.

Thanks

Posted by: Colville, WA | October 9, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

"It's sad to me that the only thing people think about is the economy. We'll come out of this no matter who is president. Moral issues are more important. I CANNOT in good conscience vote for Obama."

I think it is a moral issue that the republicans screwed up out economy, and now we bail them out. I also think it is a moral issue when McCain spreads lies about Obama to win.

Posted by: Tim | October 9, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Republicans in name only. There is nothing republican about spying on Americans. Nothing republican about socializing the banking industry. Nothing republican about indefinite detention or wars based on lies. There has been nothing fiscally responsible about republicans. They goose step in line with their leader and pretend their inability to find OBL as normal. They are a disgrace and didn't earn another 4 years. Their loss this election cycle will be nothing more than deserved.

Posted by: MarkD | October 9, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

"Send in the Clowns", wow, that says it all.

What a great campaign ad that would make.

Posted by: marksez | October 9, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

The bible says to train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it, Hassin Obama was raised in the Muslim faith the first 10 years of his life, I
rest my case!
Posted by: Ralph G. San Jose | October 9, 2008 11:29 AM

Aren't you tired of spouting the same lie over and over,one that's been disproved ? How dumb are you ,really ? I'll take a rational Muslim over an extremist Christian any day.Extremism is the problem. Is every Muslim a terrorist ? Does every christian firebomb abortion clinics ? The reason that the churches have to start them young is because no rational adult would believe that fairytale,of any religion. You have to start when the brain is empty and will believe anything.

Posted by: John | October 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Most of the post here have no substance or fact/s included. It scares me that uneducated minds such as these are actually going to be selecting our next President! Do your homework and use the brain God gave you, you will not have to look far to find out who is behind Obama and where such a "poor" child raised on welfair, and who attended the most prestigeous colleges, bought a million plus home on a 12K salary, took a trip around the world (mostly muslum countrys) upon graduation..gets his money and support! THESE are FACTS! I do not totally agree with everything McCain stands for, but I certainly will not vote for the devil either. God help us all!

Posted by: Concerned Grandmother | October 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Obama might still be ahead after the debate, but I'm still scared!
Repugnicans have only ONE talent, and that's the talent to get elected. It makes this the scariest election ever.
What makes it totally horrifying is Palin. She has lots of that Reaganesque moron appeal, and since the repugnican base is mostly made up of culturally and intellectually challenged people (let's not mince words, shall we?) who "vote with their hearts", vote for Jay-zus and react mightily to pats on the head and flashy little buzzwords, I'm very much afraid she's going to become the next vice-president.
WORSE : if Obama wins this turn around, she will not remain idle.
You can bet that the GOP, having discovered her natural talent for moron appeal, will spend the intervening years coaching her to a high point of efficiency, where she'll even APPEAR to be intelligent and well informed.
I can't help but think of Stephen King's "The Dead Zone".
There's no deus ex machina in real life, folks, no magical Talleyrand who will be hovering over her shoulder fixing her messes.
She's roadkill with lipstick, and she just might be president one day...

Posted by: Spitfire | October 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Although Barak is NOT a Muslim, in this so called 'land of the free', should it even MATTER if he was?

Republicans seem to be fearful of just about anything different. It's very stupid.

Posted by: Greg | October 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

McCain and Palin see all too happy with the crowds yelling out "kill that terrorist" and racial slurs during rallies. This is plain and simple, how can we trust someone to lead us through two wars and a global war on terrorism when we are willing to call United States Senators terrorist if we think that will scare people in to voting for us? I would have thought the Bush campaign smearing McCain and spreading lies about his personal life would have been enough to keep McCain in line, but apparently he learned a new way of doing politics and not how damaging it can be. I was a McCain fan before he decided on putting politics as usual first as he has shown in this campaign.

Posted by: kitsinni | October 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse


From "The Make Believe Maverick"

On the grounds between the two brick colleges, the chitchat between the scion of four-star admirals and the son of a prizefighter turns to their academic travels; both colleges sponsor a trip abroad for young officers to network with military and political leaders in a distant corner of the globe.

"I'm going to the Middle East," Dramesi says. "Turkey, Kuwait, Lebanon, Iran."

"Why are you going to the Middle East?" McCain asks, dismissively.

"It's a place we're probably going to have some problems," Dramesi says.

"Why? Where are you going to, John?"

"Oh, I'm going to Rio."

"What the hell are you going to Rio for?"

McCain, a married father of three, shrugs.

"I got a better chance of getting laid."

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

What do "you" still believe in the US Constitution?

Do "you" still believe that some principles are timeless? If so, which ones?

Is the principle of "Free to succeed as well as Fail" still apart of the American Culture?

Is their a "right" to Health care, Food, Clothing, Shelter, a Job, Insurance, freedom from fear, hate speech, etc....

Where in our Constitution does it state any of this?

Do you prefer Central Planning?

Do you prefer Free Markets?

Think about it.

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Bush-McCain: "Welfare for the rich is OK, it's just the poor who we can't afford to give welfare to."

More tax cuts for oil companies.
More tax cuts for the wealthy.
Cut benefits for elderly and sick.

Bush-McCain: Christians you can count on!

Posted by: Mark. E. | October 9, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

>It's sad to me that the only thing people think about is the economy. We'll come out of this no matter who is president. Moral issues are more important. I CANNOT in good conscience vote for Obama.

(Yawn) An old, old talking point wrung dry in the Primary.
Again, the GOP base talking to the GOP base.

Conservative are so stuck in past repeating the same things over and over as if they are some new revalation. It's a mental sickness.

Fall in line like the disciplined sheep you are! bahhhhhh bahhhhhh!

Posted by: jim | October 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

What a riot reading the angry GOP trailer trash commenting here. "Obama is a radical Muslim Manchurian candidate." No wonder you bozos work swing at McD's

Posted by: Chris Fox | October 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Instead of addressing the accusations of associating with terrorist,
Obama reacts like a terrorist by threatening all who dare to criticize or challenge him.

Posted by: Julie Alton | October 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Country First? Sounds good. Let's assume you mean THIS country. To put country first, lets make sure that at the end of the next president's first term, we still have a country. Do you see how deeply troubled this country is? Do you understand how serious our economic problems are? Do you realize the extent to which the world's population has lost respect for the U.S.? If you want to put country first, reject McCain/Palin's anger,nastiness, selfishness, aggression. Trust Obama. Obama is our best hope. Deal with it.

Posted by: Ed Sommers | October 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

To: Teed off G,Willis,Dianne,

Stop with your vile bigotry already. It's old. We have moved past this (or at least we are trying). The hate you spew is un-American and there is no place for that in this country. If continue w/ your racist remarks, let me say on behalf of this country, This great Nation does not want you here. You are un-American. Please leave.

Posted by: TruePatriot | October 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

It amazes me how easily the loyal Dems accept that OBama associates himself with known terrorist and America haters. THIS IS NOT TALKING POINTS, this it the truth. It is hard to understand how aloof Dems are about this. Calling these facts talking points does not make them go away.

O'Bama worked for a known terrorist who planted bombs at the Pentagon and Capitol. LET THAT SINK IN before you vote.

Posted by: V8 | October 9, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

If Obama is the answer - God help us!

Posted by: justforkicks | October 9, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

What happens if taxes increase substantially at a set limit? ($250 thousand for example) When someone approaches the limit, they will decide if at all possible, to stop making money - or face a GIANT tax increase. This will keep people that are below said limit from trying to get close to the limit, and people that are already close to the limit to decrease their income to prevent paying unnecessary taxes. What happens if thousands of people in one country decide to stop making money under a certain limit? I can only speculate (not being an economist myself) that the country would have a MAJOR recession!

Posted by: Thinkforaminute... | October 9, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

Help send Barack to Washington and John one way to the moon with a Jackson. May they both have a nice trip.

Posted by: variezn34gm | October 9, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

To Ralph G. San Jose. So does that mean if you were not raised as Christian and then you were born again you really aren't a Christian? Give me a break.

Posted by: commom sense | October 9, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

"All I can say is that you folks that vote Obama in as President deserve what you get. Don't complain when the country goes down the toilet."

You mean we aren't there yet? The stock market is as low as it's been in a decade, unemployment is up, income is down, we're fighting 2 wars, neither our friends nor our enemies respect us, and the world markets are crashing a little more each day. After 8 years of Bush/Cheney it's time for something new. The GOP had control of Congress and the Execute Branch for the vast majority of this century and it has gotten us nowhere. The GOP has no one but itself to blame for getting drunk on power and losing whatever decency it had. The Democrats are about to take control of the country now and we'll see what they can do, because it can't be any worst than what the GOP has done. Hopefully, the GOP will re-brand itself and stop with the (overt and covert) racism, anti-intellectual, populist, joe-six-pack crap. What's sad is George W. was on to something when he started swaying Latinos to the GOP, that could have counteracted the Black vote, and potentially become to the GOP what the Black vote is to the Democrats (a virtual lock) but the racist GOP base killed that with the anti-immigration speak. Have you noticed how you don't hear so much about the illegal immigrant problem now? Why, because the jobs are drying up. Who wants to risk their lives to get to the US and not work? People can stay in their own country and be broke. All you GOP folks face the facts you had your turn and you blew it, big time. Now let's see what the Dems can do, and if they screw up, they'll be out on their collective arse too.

Posted by: MiddleGround | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Who cares that your a female.

Posted by: TDG | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

A sampling of Obama supporters
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mvP0ArKIGY

Posted by: BeVeryVeryAfraid | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Obama will win in a landslide. Deal with it haters.

Posted by: MarkD | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Here we go again. Anybody who does not like Obama's lack of experience, lack of character or his socialistic policies just must be a racist. I will not vote for Barack Hussein Obama.....

I love how this tool defends not being a racist by being racist.

Your an an ignorant uncultured bigot! Go drink your six-pack joe!

Posted by: laura | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

"Upon reading some of these rants and screaming lectures, one can see some benefit in dictatorships." I was actually thinking along those same lines during the Olympics. Nobody does mass pageantry like totalitarians. However, upon further review I have decided that personal freedom (and the occasional crackpot) are still the best choice.

Posted by: kguy1 | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

To those that thought Wild Bill Clinton did a good job. Maybe you should look at who held the CONGRESS during those years. hint: Republicans

Did he ever figure out the definition of the word "IS"?

Posted by: Nobama | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Why don't you use a 40pt font that declares

"...DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN...."

More YELLOW JOURNALISM designed to affect the election and the populace.

Another fine example of Journal"istic" Ethics.

Posted by: Patrick in Sarasota | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

It's sad to me that the only thing people think about is the economy. We'll come out of this no matter who is president. Moral issues are more important. I CANNOT in good conscience vote for Obama.

Posted by: N8 | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: TX Maverick | October 9, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to the idea of presenting facts and checking the validity of "facts" spoken by the candidates? Whatever happened to the media being an unbiased presenter of facts?

The Washington Post is a great example of how the American media is always in someone's pocket - monetarily or politically. There's no other explanation for an article like this...

If you dislike Fox for being biased, don't forget to look in the mirror everytime you read something from the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, et al.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

As a lifelong conservative, I admittedly came into this election biased. However, I now see that the government is larger than ever before, and its spending is at an all-time high - especially for things that are not social necessity (war, bailouts). I still believe that the government should only intervene for the few things of social necessity (education, water, energy, medical aid for children) and the republican ticket has failed that test. So my decision now comes to the question of who is smarter and has obvious leadership potential. To me, there is an obvious choice - Obama-Biden.

Posted by: socialthinker | October 9, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

As we get closer to Election Day, it’s getting harder to see much promise in either candidate. Obama has the promise of charisma and ideal ideas, and lacks the experience and a history of being able to make these things happen.

McCain is looking less and less able, capable, and wise.

I was undecided while waiting to see who the candidates would choose as running mates. McCain, with his careless choice of Palin, clearly only has winning as a concern, not what happens the day after that. Obama had 95% of the Democratic vote wrapped up if he chose an Obama/Clinton ticket. That would have given him wide voter support.

Is Ross Perot still a choice?

Posted by: marksez | October 9, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Ayers was asked to work on a project to improve education by the Annenberg Foundation. So was Obama. If you have a problem with that, you have a problem with the Annenberg Foundation, not with Obama.

The Chicago Tribune (a Republican newspapaer) did a very thorough investigation of Obama's relationship with Rezko and found nothing. Not content, they demanded he answer their questions so Obama met with them and stayed until he answered every question to their satisfaction. They then wrote an editorial saying that Obama has done nothing wrong and is hiding nothing.

People bringing these names up are simply showing themselves to be extremists who want to scare people. Shameless cowards. Try talking about plans and policies and let's fix the problems we face.

Posted by: luke | October 9, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

I'm voting for the smart guy and it isn't the idiot who picked Palin.

Posted by: Ron | October 9, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

If McCain persuades me to vote against Obama I should be able to, honestly and directly, with a NO vote against him. The yes only ballot denies me that right. The ballot should include a NO column and the highest net yes wins. It might also convince candidates that negative attacks are non0-productive in securing votes and that only better plans and ideas would assure that. Wouldn't that be refreshing! An honest vote producing an honest reflection of voter sentiment, something the yes only ballot hides.

Posted by: Valjean1 | October 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

I am going to totally destroy my credibility by what I am saying, however most of you contributing to this comment stream have done the same to yourselves. John McCain in a child molester, wife beater, pervert, etc. I have no evidence for this and almost no reason for saying it except that I am going to vote for Barack Obama, believing that any other course would be destructive to our country and the world. Eat them apples, you character smearers!!!

Posted by: DavidGD620 | October 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Vote your hopes and not your fears.

Posted by: Pwelvr | October 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Did I mention I am gay?

I like it up the ais.

Posted by: Ralph G San Jose | October 9, 2008 11:36 AM | Report abuse

"America is destroying itself right before our eyes"

America is not destroying itself. It is being systematically being dismantled. When Clinton left office there was a surplus. This country was ticking right along and everybody was getting a piece of it. When Bush tok the office (illegally) he was offered a hand by Clinton and he snubbed him and then promtly went on vacation until 9\11. Then all of a sudden he stepped up and everything has been going downhill ever since.
When will these republicans open their eyes and stop believing the propoganda machine? Why can't they simply get back to reality and stop supporting these wolves in sheeps clothing?

Vote for anything but a Repiublican this election. Local or national. Vote em all out. That should scare the Democrats to death.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Why Are They Smiling? Permission to Hate.
It's obvious that the McCain campaign has decided that they are going to lose. They know that attacking Senator Obama as a terrorist drives away independent voters in droves. Yet McCain, on his stump speech, is asking crowds that he has warmed up with untruths about Senator Obama: "Who do you think he is?"

From within the all white crowd someone screams: "A terrorist".

McCain smiles. Permission to hate.

Plain fires up her all white crowd by stating that Senator Obama is "not like us" and implies that he hates America, and then she charges that he "pals around with terrorists". From within the all white crowd someone screams: "Kill him".

Palin smiles. Permission to hate.

"A terrorist" and "Kill him" are not random responses. Without these responses these speeches don't work.

The Republican strategy is now to get the most rabid of their base stirred up into a frenzy. They have taken the right wing-nut talking points of Limbaugh and Hannity and lob them like red meat to the crowd.

The Republican Goal:

Create a post election environment where the rabid base is so furious that bringing people together and governing becomes as difficult as possible. As party leaders, they are deliberately encouraging and giving permission to millions of Americans to feel justified in hating a new president President Obama. The stage is set to blame President Obama from 'day one' for the mess the Republicans have made over the last 8 years.

Our job is to follow Senator Obama's example. We need to continue to calmly reach out to our friends, neighbors and relatives who support Senator McCain by acknowledging their right to their opinions, see where there is common ground on some issues and tell them the truth about Senator Obama. Then let it go.

Posted by: pgo | October 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Hey genius at 11:29, African Americans have overwhelmingly voted for the Democratic candidate for all of recent history...Obama is a Democrat. The only thing different about his candidacy with African Americans is that more of them have felt inspired to take part in this election. The percentages are not that astounding compared to other Democrats that they have supported, like Kennedy or Clinton.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I REFUSE to vote for a president who does not know how to use E-MAIL !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Steve | October 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Kenny, Kenny, Kenny....
Does God actually care about the politics of any country? Does God care what is taught in schools? Does God care what laws are created? I believe God cares more about how we treat our fellow human beings and creatures. I believe God is love and not judgmental or vengeful, punishing people for their actions. Why would a loving God want to bring pain and misery to people? We bring that upon ourselves.
Everyone has been given free choice and those choices are not always right. Whether it be abortion or hunting animals from a helicopter for sport, not for any form of survival.
I believe all people will be accepted into heaven, whatever or wherever that is, because God created all men in God's image. Not because they are a white christian from the United States. Everyone regardless of color, creed, or location will be accepted. Religion is an invention of man to have power over the populace and put forth their beliefs. Next time you talk with God, ask what is the true religion. And if you really hear God I bet the answer will be love and treat your fellow man the way that you would like to be treated.
I wish you and people like you would leave God out of politics because God has no interest in politics. Only that people love and accept each other as they are.
Love and Peace

Posted by: Believe in God | October 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

I am sure, as Americans, we all want to secure the power of our empire. While most people would characterize my beliefe as liberal, I would counter that I believe in the promise of America. The promise Ms Barry, my first grade teacher at Sunset Hills Elementary school taught us to believe in.

What happened to us?

In 2000 we were the hegemon of a unipolar world; now we are a crumbling empire.

We need new leadership. We need a new party. A party that respects gun rights and womens rights; a party that respects the freedom to peaceably assemble without a permit. A party that unites people as Americans and disregards their religious preferences, race or sexual orientation. A party that won't bail out corporations while leaving its citizens to struggle. A party that respects the constitution of the United States.

We have so much more in common than we are lead to believe by ideologues on both sides sewing division among us.

We need a real party of pragmatic centrists who have one goal. Keep us strong economically, intellectually and militarily. Secure our power for our children, not lay to waste what our fathers died for.

We are divided. We are falling.

America!!!


Posted by: mr B | October 9, 2008 11:35 AM | Report abuse

>He ain't a Muslum, he is a Baptist.

So what if Obama was a Muslim!!!!

Is that somehow inferior to being a jew? to being a buddist? to being a catholic?

Is being black inferor to being irish? to be german? to being asian?

American bigotry and ingnorance at its worst. This is whyjoe-six pack cant run the country.

Posted by: sue | October 9, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

WaPo needs to limit the ability of commenters to cut and paste these extraordinarily long rants such as "John McSame and Sarah Failin Are Done" above. This type of thing accomplishes nothing and wastes people's time and bandwidth. Please institute some type of word count limiter.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse


Upon reading some of these rants and screaming lectures, one can see some benefit in dictatorships. It is terrifying to think of some of these writers alone in a voting booth. I am sure with all the decades of government , military, and foreign service not to mention the advanced degrees in financial studies, President Obama will bring peace and prosperity to the world after he cures cancer, malaria, AIDS, and stupidity. Good luck !!

Posted by: uffdaron | October 9, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

All this buzz about Ayers is the last desperate lie of a lying campaign - they lied about Obama's position on taxes, they have distorted his statements about military policy in Pakistan, and they have lied about their own background, qualifications and judgment. The idea that Obama is some kind of terrorist sympathizer is just ludicrous on its face. Obviously Ayers and his ilk will have no clout in an Obama administration.

Posted by: troisieme | October 9, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

According to The Book of Revelations:

The Anti-Christ will be a man, in his 40's, of MUSLIM descent, who will deceive the nations with persuasive language, and have a MASSIVE Christ-like appeal....the prophecy says that people will flock to him and he will promise false hope and world peace, and when he is in power, he will destroy everything.

And Now:
For the award winning Act of Stupidity Of all times the People of America want to elect, to the most Powerful position on the face of the Planet -- The Presidency of the United states of America. A Male of Muslim descent who is the most extremely liberal Senator in Congress (in other words an extremist) and in his 40's.

Have the American People completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason ???

Posted by: Ralph G. San Jose | October 9, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

McCain seems to have sold his soul to the devil. He is so obsessed with winning this election that he has gone to new lows. It is an embarrassment to this country to have him, in his current state, be a Presidential candidate. If McCain has so little respect for a fellow Senator that he can refer to him as "that one" and also refuse to shake his hand, then how can he have respect for an ordinary American citizen like me? That One '08!

Comments welcome: http://whenelephantsfly.blogspot.com

Posted by: When Elephants Fly (http://whenelephantsfly.blogspot.com) | October 9, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Here we go again. Anybody who does not like Obama's lack of experience, lack of character or his socialistic policies just must be a racist. Enough. Judge him of who he is as a man and who he chosen to listen to and follow for the last 20+ years. He is a danger to our way of life, if the brainwashings of rev. Right, Ayer, Farakan, etc had any impact on him. I will not vote for Barack Hussein Obama.

Posted by: Alexandra | October 9, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

A vote for McCain is a vote vindicating the xenophobic and downright fearful masses that have been at these Palin rallies screaming that we need to kill Obama and that he's a terrorist. Even if I had not already been in support of Obama, there is no way I could even reason a vote for McCain at this point. The little bit of respect I had left for McCain is gone. Maverick, my a*s; to paraphrase Senator McCain: If you tell a lie long enough and loud enough, it becomes truth. A Maverick would have not employed fear-mongering Rovian tactics... this is just disgraceful.

Posted by: NCVoter | October 9, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Amen to the guy who said we shouldn't blame Bush for the economic crisis, but rather the predatory lenders and the borrowers who bit off way more than they could chew. F***ing morons the lot of them--and now we're all paying for their mistakes.

Posted by: Alex | October 9, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Senator Obama is in many ways untested and *may* fail spectacularly as POTUS.

Over the years, Senator McCain has done and said many things that intrigue me --and sometimes won my respect.

However, voting for Obama-Biden over the McCain-Palin ticket is not even a decision for me. Little of this has to do with the way the campaigns have been run (let's face it, politics is politics in this country). Little of it has to do with the "social conversative" vs "liberal" agendas. (Though I identify myself as a progressive, I would at this time not hesitate to elect a competent and solemn, if graying, elder conservative statesman/woman who I thought would deliver the best possible performance (think Ike). Given the circumstances we are in, "if" the choice were between this and a left-leaning fire brand whose only credential was good public speaking ability, that would be no choice either.

But that is not the case. This election is about the better competence, the better character, the better energy, the better spirit, the more wise judgment and who is more likely to deliver the better overall performance as Executive.

And given the legacy we have seen of the last eight years, and where it has landed us now, we NEED to make a change. In this vein I would expect ANY conservative in the country to agree with me that we need to get together as Americans, shelve some of our social differences, and simply hire the better team in to do the job.

I honestly believe that - whatever your social beliefs - if at this time you are letting these things come BEFORE who is going to get us OUT of the messes the current administration has put us in, then you must actually not care about our country. If our economic system and military both collapse over the next half decade because we make the wrong choices now (and by the way, I think this means firing Nancy Pelosi and some of the Democrats as well as most of the GOP for their raw incompetence), then we will ALL lose. (With the sole possible exception of those who wish for Armageddon.)

Posted by: Lobstermeyer | October 9, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Scary to see how many stupid people support McCain. Vote the bible? Such a dumbass suggestion. Hillbillies will be hillbillies, voting guns and religion. My own sister votes the bible. I love her, but she's a moron. She made almost no use of her educational opportunities, and decided, like most of these hillbilly posters, to let the church do her thinking for her. Mercifully, the right is quickly being replaced by the left as the salvation of the nation. Go ahead and vote the bible. It won't save the election for McCain. Most of the citizens of this country see that McCain is clearly out of his league. Senator, maybe. President, undoubtedly not qualified. The next president will be "That One"! I love elections.

Posted by: Den Gran | October 9, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

To disheartenedbycommunists: Of course it is much better to live in a fascist country like the one GW and Poppy brought to us.

Posted by: thomaspaine | October 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Taking businesses and giving them to the people is capitalism. What's going on now, taking the peoples money and giving it to businesses is fascism.

McCain says Obama is in lock step for voting with his party 97% of the time, and that he is a maverick for voting with his party 94% of the time.

No matter who wins it's not going to be the end of the world. Neither man is nearly as inept or out of touch as the Bush.

While I certainly prefer Obama, either candidate is a step up for our country

Posted by: PhilipShade | October 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

The challenge McCain faces is not that Obama's approaches are good, but both choices are at best - not very good. Both Rep (which I still am) and Dem's have been a disaster for the US.

Just like last time, I am voting in protest against both - and voting for a third party. No they will not win, but it will long term strengthen an alternative for us. Instead of not voting, or voting for more bad republicrat policies, consider voting for a third party, such as Libertarian or Green - just anything else.

Posted by: Harry | October 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I think Obama is being criticized for being a nice guy. Ayers is now a professor and respected education reformer. So I guess all the students he teaches and all of his staff are terrorists, right? Of all of Obama's "associations" this one is the weakest. At least use Rev. Wright if you're going to use anything (not that that works either). This shows McCain's lack of judgement in even choosing the right scandal to win the White House. Obama will win by a big margin and has anyone noticed that the more negative McCain gets the higher Obama's poll numbers go?

Posted by: Carol | October 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Chuck:
The people of Alaska have no say in how much the oil in their state is sold for. Unlike shareholders, they have no say in setting the price of oil, nor do they control the costs of the oil companies that exploit their resources. A complex formula has been legislated that dictates Alaskans piece of the action. It's insulting to suggest that Alaska residents are any less patriotic or that they would extort their fellow American's. Other energy rich states use income from energy producers to reduce the tax burdens of their citizens, in most cases, it balances out. Alaska remains one of our least populace states, so I doubt that the "oil money" Alaskans receive is that substantial. Certainly it hasn't acted as an incentive to cause much of a population shift from the lower 48.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | October 9, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

In response to michel1835.....if you could impeach a president for incompetence.....oh if only.....well you know the rest don't you.

Posted by: Randy Smith | October 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

To William. Socialism is not a bad word. Socialism is why we help people in need like the victims of hurricanes and others in need. The United States has had a social contract with it's citizens for most of it's history. And you should also understand that most religions including Christianity has socialism at it's heart. Meaning that the community takes care of the community.

Posted by: g | October 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

If Obama wins, we lose.
If McCain wins, we lose.
They're opposite sides of the same coin that's in the pocket of a small, elite cabal of international bankers who profit from waging war and stealing our tax dollars.
Either way, we're screwed...

Posted by: Hiwaycruzer | October 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I am honestly saddened to admit that at this point liberals simply do not care about the questions Obama isn't answering. You all are completely blind.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

This is all very simple. Conservatives want things to stay the same as they were in 1900. There scared to think forward. They live in fear. Fear of free thought, free action, free speech and fear of change.

The rest of the country want America to march into 21 century. Rebuild our reputaion, end wars, creat innovative ways to grow or economy.

Posted by: laura | October 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

John McCain III was never honorable. See this issue of Rolling Stone. Spin it any way you want, we are in trouble (and so is the world) if he is the best America has to offer.

Posted by: apl | October 9, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

In response German's post: "Why is it socialist to have people with higher incomes pay more taxes to support the poor? To give free healthcare to those who can't afford it? To make education free? Are Germany, UK, France, Sweden, Switzerland socialist countries??"

Socialism does not work because as the population grows exponentially these programs become unaffordable. And yes those four countries are socialist. Germany is in trouble because right now they have more people retired and receiving benefits than there are people in the workforce. The endless wars that we are fighting and all the bailout money we are creating out of thin air is just a drop in the bucket compared to the defecits we will be facing with medicare and social security.

If we truly live in a free market, in the Austrian not the Keynsian sense there would be little to no need for welfare or entitlements.

Posted by: Freedom & Capitalism | October 9, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

How can McCain claim with a straight face that he can extend across the aisle when he can't even shake hands with Obama?

Posted by: NotABanker | October 9, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

He ain't a Muslum, he is a Baptist. He ain't black (except in Georgia and Alabama), he is half black. What you get is a President that can praise the lord and dance at the same time. What more could you want? And he wife is pretty Hot.

Posted by: TheTruth | October 9, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

"Furthermore she was also raised up by God to speak out against abortion which is one of the greatest sins of the US."

Are you sure?

"The US is being judged by God for this sin of murdering innocent babies."

Perhaps we'll be visited with the 10 plagues? Oh, wait, how many innocent babies were murdered the first time?

Posted by: Read don't buffet | October 9, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

The general level of ignorance among McCain supporters is simply terrifying. Stop rationalizing your hatred for Obama with Islamophobia and just say it. You don't like him because he is black. McCain/Palin have FAR more connections to 'terrorist' organizations (Iran/Contra & AIP anyone?) than Obama. Besides, Ayers is a respected academic now. If the right is so outraged at this, why have we not heard their objections before?

Posted by: That Guy | October 9, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Is War the Answer to Everything?

Conservative commentator Pat Buchanan on John McCain,

"his whole career is wrapped up in the military, he's in Putin's face, he's threatening the Iranians, we're gonna be in Iraq 100 years, .... what John McCain is telling you is what he's promising you... what he said is 'make no mistake there are going to be more wars'....that is straight talk, to be quite frank, you get John McCain in the White House and I do believe we will be at war with Iran.

Do You Really Want More Wars?

Posted by: Tommy R. | October 9, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

The bible says to train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it, Hassin Obama was raised in the Muslim faith the first 10 years of his life, I
rest my case!

Posted by: Ralph G. San Jose | October 9, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

To James-
Thank you for understanding the true plight of our country. Lack of personal responsibilty. Our liberal colleagues do not understand the repercussions of their actions. It is the government in Washington that is the problem. Enabling laziness and a lack of strong work ethic.
McCain may not be the knight in shining armour that we hoped for, personally i don't think any politician will ever get it perfect. Reagan principals of small government is the key and Obama is a polar opposite of this. Government is not the answer and the citizens of this country need to realize this simple fact.

Posted by: Andrew | October 9, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

FD Roosevelt and LB Johnson were also cigarette smokers... not to mention the "tradition" of cigars in the white house.

Posted by: Timmy Elliot | October 9, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I am so tired of people calling me racist for voting McCain. Last time I checked about 95% of the African American population were voting Obama; I would love to see the public outcry if 95% of the white voting block voted McCain.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:29 AM | Report abuse

McCain lost the election the day his campaign picked Sarah for him. I am Jewish and my whole family already voted for Barack Obama. Sarah Palin's speeches are beginning to sound a lot like Hitler's speeches and McCain has an eerie resemblance to Mussolini.

Posted by: Ron | October 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

KateJaneway - do you need help to carry your luggage on your departure?

I believe we heard that claim with the last election from some of the hollywood elites and they are still here bleeding us dry at the box office.

Posted by: nanshi | October 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Why is it that the majority of liberals on these message boards seems to be a delusional nut that doesn't see they are half of the problem (the far right being the other half)? If you want your statements to carry any trace of intelligence I would leave the grade school nicknames (i.e. McShame) and idiotic slogans at the DNC, because it is laughable for individuals that have the gift of original thought. If McCain wins I hope he returns to his former self and continues to attack Democrats as well as the politicians in his own party, while surrounding himself with people that have knowledge of the economy. I hope I am wrong about Obama and if he wins (at least the chances of him passing his bogus heathcare plan are slim at best) I hope his inexperience can be overshadowed with competent cabinet members that actually understand foreign policy and the economy. No matter who ends up winning, we must support the official we elected as a nation and put our individual differences aside for the best of the country.

Posted by: Moderation | October 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I find so many of these posts... really very funny! I love the ones where they think Obama really is a terrorist... HA HA HA... It almost makes me pee my pants! If we want "CHANGE" We have to vote differently. Kerry didn't make it in to office because he didn't have a back bone to stand up to Bush! Obama will stand to the end, he will lead this country in to the direction it so badly needs! If we continue to vote in the same type of people, we will fall, we will not succeed! America will CONTINUE to be the LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD! We need to rise above and let our voices be heard... WE WILL NOT LET THIS COUNTRY FALL if we vote OBAMA... All of you blind Republicans can continue to be racist, and hateful... can you believe that Mcstain and lame let someone actually yell "KILL HIM" Oh yea thats the kind of people I want running this country... If we vote Mcstain... we will crumble!!! GO OBAMA!!!!!

Posted by: Obama for Pres! | October 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Let's call a spade a spade, the only reason why you have some people professing that McPain is god, is because they are afraid of a black man in the white house. It's probably the same idiots who voted Bush back into office twice. And you wonder why the world think so little of America. Lets just hope and prey that Obama wins.

Posted by: A Mackenzie South Africa | October 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

It seems even the Republican base believes that if you tell a lie often enough it becomes the truth. Nice strategy, guys. Too bad American won't fall for it anymore.

McCain has lost his dignity, which is too bad, since that's all he had left.

Obama-Biden 2008

Posted by: Rovian tactics | October 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"I read with utmost dissapointment the sponsored view of some disgruntle element that Obama is a good condidate. All this Islamist has to offer us is to turn America to Zimbabwe,Obama is a pretender that is being sponsored by terrorist organisation. Dont know how Al-Barak suddenly becomes Barak, a fraudulent liar."

Ah there it is. The root of the matter. You republicans can't stand the thought of a black person being in charge. You're all a bunch of racist swine, just admit it and then we can move on.

Honestly it makes the silly looking "Why are Republican so dum?" comment a lot more relevant. So, I'll ask the same question properly: Why are Republicans so dumb? Well, the answer is simple. How else do you rule a country by using fear? You keep the masses ignorant.

Posted by: Bob | October 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

sadly, some feel this election is funny. others feel it will be a landslide. each side is calling the other a liar which is true in several instances. obama is NOT stupid enough as some would state, to run the country by himself. he has already picked the best running mate (foreigh policy besides seeing russia from an outlying alaskan island? puleez). palin, at best, is qualified to be the leader of a local high school cheerleading team. mccain is an old and probably very ill man. I for one am pleased with obama's presence in the debate. he is presidential and he looks at his opponent...what a concept eh? obama is also extremely intelligent and married to a woman who is a strong force in his life. cindy mccain got rich on beer. she ought to buy another home in alaska and she can watch palin dress a moose. OMG what has happened to all of us.

Posted by: joel carothers | October 9, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

It is truly disappointing to see how this campaign is trending in the last stretch. Senator McCain, a man that I had always held in the highest respect has fallen into an unfortunate pattern of sounding petty and foolish. Ms. Palin frightens me. Not so much because of who she is and what she believes in, as much as her apparent lack of consideration for the consequences of her actions now that she has been allowed out into 'attack dog' mode.

I am actually surprised that I haven't seen anyone raise this point yet, but the negative comments of Palin at her campaign appearances are stirring some of the dangerously radical right into a frenzy which may boil over in the case of a Democratic victory on election day. Worst case is one or more of these zealots attempts an assassination, but the more likely scenario is that they and they and their highly partisan party loyals will form yet another endless stream of counter-productive accusations and investigations as they did during the Clinton tenure, only to impede any possible progress.

As a proud American and Texan (in that order) that is now working and living momentarily in Europe, I get to see all of this from the outside in. It really isn't pretty, and it makes it difficult to say I'm an American sometimes. So far however, I have resisted the (sometimes strong) temptation to tell people I'm from Canada, just to avoid the abuse :-)

Let's all hope for the best.

Posted by: TimT | October 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans here say "you think things are bad now, with Obama they'll get worse". But the Onion had it right when in January 2001 they predicted "George Bush Promises to End Our Long National Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity" (google it). And these are the same idiots that voted for him... TWICE! You know, the guy who is now hiding away somewhere in the Whitehouse, while virtually everyone in the country is just waiting for him to LEAVE!

Economic pundits are saying that in the most likely case we are now looking at 9% unemployment within a year, and a recession lasting for 1-2 years, a huge amount of time compared to recent history. The worst case? They say with a straight face it could be another Great Depression. It all depends on whether the credit situation frees up - and nobody knows if it will.

So I say, how can possibly get worse? Oh I know - Palin ends up ascending to the Presidency and stumbles into nuclear war with Russia - don'tcha know. Ushering in what she would cheerfully refer to as - "The End Times".

Posted by: orrg1 | October 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Why is it that the McCain supporters only have ridiculous and disrespectful things to say? Has the once respectful and civil republican party come to this? What has happened to civil discussion? Rude comments only help to fuel partisanship during a time when all Americans should be working together, not against each other. If McCain is the one who reaches across the aisles, then why are his supporters the ones who tear down others not like them?

Posted by: gwaiss | October 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

McCain's problem is that he has become a dishonorable liar. His problem is that he is a characature of his former self, about the smear jobs he is perpetrating and the low road he has taken.

Posted by: mtobias | October 9, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

DCX2 is ignorant. Wealth redistribution IS socialism. To say you won't get tax back if you're not working is stupidly false. And then he says health care would be a public/private hybrid. Hmm. That's a weird animal. The only public/private hydrids I can remember seeing were named Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Idiots.
That's okay. Ignore facts, vote for the guy that talks pretty.
And to say that Obama could not turn this country Socialist on his own is ignorant. Obama with a Democratic House and a Democratic Senate has free rein. You don't have to make the tax rate 100% for it to go Socialist. Tax corporations enough and they leave the country, Idiots! Economists will tell you that taxing corporations at all is counterproductive. It's double taxation. Now tax rich people enough and they quit taking chances to earn money. (Why open a new franchise if I might lose a lot of money and even if I win the government takes it from me.) What will be left will be a Socialist country and a sad one at that.
And while it's discouraging to think that even 40% of this population is this stupid, don't be discouraged Sane people. Most of the comments on here supporting Obama are not truly representative. I know for a fact that there are multiple posts under MULTIPLE names but by the same person.

Posted by: William | October 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"If he gets elected , he'll be impeached for incompetence before the end of his term for lack of leadership"

If Bush hasn't been impeached for incompetence yet, no one will.

Posted by: JD | October 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

"...my fellow prisoners.."

He was right. We've all been prisoners for the last eight years.

Posted by: Jack | October 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Kenny,

It is sad when people promulgate their religious views so narrowly that they miss the bigger picture. Sarah Palin, although she may belong to a fundamental Christian church, and this has sway with some of the religious community - has - by her actions - denigrated her own integrity and trust.
A true believer will not tell a lie (again and again), and place oneself in the position of not being above reproach. Sarah has not shown this integrity - so I can't even laud her for her "small town" values. There is much repenting to be done. Shame on her.

Posted by: Tom S | October 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

McCain, must shift the public’s limited attention span back to foreign policy. Many voters are naïve enough to believe that silly politicians spewing class warfare rhetoric can improve their personal circumstances. Rational or not, Obama seems to win this debate.

However, on foreign policy Obama is still making the same foolish mistakes he was making during the primaries. Frankly the man doesn’t have a clue. The Pakistani military has control of A.Q. Khan’s arsenal; we can’t afford to destabilize this regime so an irresponsible American politician can regurgitate juvenile MoveOn.org talking points.

Posted by: Doug | October 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Cool somehow means a lack of leadership? Maybe because of recent history the only kind of leadership some of us now recognize is bullying. There are others ways to lead.

Posted by: charliek | October 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I was poised to comment, perhaps with some anger, but when I read Ann Shannon's comment, the tears in my eyes washed away anger. I understood that she had said it all, and I should not add anything to dilute the poignancy of her remarks.

Posted by: Fred Moolten | October 9, 2008 11:26 AM | Report abuse

If Obama wins this election...which it looks like he will.........be prepared to pay 50% of your income in taxes. It will be the largest transfer of wealth in history.
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If that delusion were true it would pail in comparison to the transfer of wealth from our middle class to Republican corporations for the past 30 years.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Palins is Igloo Trash!

Thats beyond classic!!!

Posted by: Carl | October 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

@EdWeirdness

you couldn'T be any further off:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

We would strongly advise that you stop dogging our fine organization; the KKK.

Posted by: Grand Wizard | October 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

What I want to know is...what's so bad about socialism?

Posted by: Socrates | October 9, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

to neilson777777777
Thank you for comment.
You missed the whole point. God is going to have the last word about what every body has done while living on this earth. Killing innocent babies in the wombs of American women is the same as killing future American citizens. Planned Parenthood is one of the largest providers of abortion and are deceived by the devil himself and is deceiving others by joining with them in the judgment of God upon this nation.

Posted by: kenny | October 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Will Oprah take Paulson's place ?

Posted by: Conecerned | October 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Now that McNasty has sent out Mrs.McNasty to do his bidding for him SHE IS NOW FAIR GAME! She was an oxycontin addict just like Rush Limbaugh, who stole money from the charity she ran to feed her habit.

His campaign is now only energizing the extreme racist branch of the right. The crowd screams "Kill him" and they just stand there and smile. The true republicans know McCain is grasping and many of them will be voting for Obama and have said so. When your party's old guard is against you, you're done!

Posted by: Bill | October 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The baby-boomers are retiring off into the sunset. Your parents were the best generation, and now we wave good-bye and say good riddance to your unnecessary wars, huge debts, excessive indulgences, environmental disrespect, and work-first/family-second attitude . It is time for a change, and a conservative man who represents the old generation will not win.

The youth is rising, and we do not fall for this "God's on our side,he's a liberal, socialist, terrorist, gay-lover" crap. Seriously, McCain, I haven't head this elementary name-calling/rumor spreading crap since 4th grade. It's disrespectful to what is an espy of democracy...the presidential election. The whole world watches.

Posted by: Dennis | October 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

It is sad who we have to choose from... I will not vote this time around.

Posted by: vtohr | October 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Chas....the diebold trick will only work if the election is CLOSE!

Its not close anymore!! So start praying

Posted by: B-man | October 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Obama will be president and it will never even come close to the disaster this Bush administration has been. For a change the smart guy will be elected. Hallelujah!

Posted by: MarkD | October 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

McCain has a lot more people backing him then you people think. Come voting day it will be a lot closer than any of you have expected. As to the "white" comment at the begining... Do you know how much slack some one would get if the said Obama was a member of a black group? Racism goes both ways! McCain has got my vote. And just about everyone around where I am from is leaning toward McCain. Good luck blind sheep... keep following your master!

Posted by: Southwestern | October 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

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International Court of Justice (The Hague) Wish To Speak With McBush, Cheney, Rice, Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire in January for War Crimes.

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Mumbles Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel and did not always obey the rules, which contributed to a very low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve. Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire earned a reputation as a partying man. The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines.

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GOP REPUBLICAN Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush Have Many Many Many Crisis To Answer For

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III

Trillion Dollar Treasury Robbing War Crisis
Trillion Dollar Deficit Crisis (Disgrace)
Democracy Crisis
American People Crisis
U.S. Constitution Crisis
Barrel of OOIIILLLL Crisis (Democrat $24 changed to GOP REPUBLICAN $145)
Gallon of Gasoline Crisis (Democrat $1.25 changed to GOP REPUBLICAN $4.50)
WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Speculation Crisis
WALL STREET Obscene Super-capitalism cannibalistic Crisis
WALL STREET selling America to Saudi Arabia Crisis
WALL STREET selling America to India Crisis
WALL STREET selling America to China Crisis
Iraq War Crisis
Iran Crisis
North Korea Crisis
Relations with China Crisis
Healthcare Crisis
U.S. Economics Crisis
U.S. Employment Crisis
Out Sourcing American Jobs Crisis
Auto Industry Crisis
Airline Industry Crisis
Travel Crisis
Flood Levee Crisis
Energy Crisis
WALL STREET Tax Haven Rich Tax Avoidance Crisis
CEO and Employees Wage Gap Crisis
Lack of Employees’ Rights Crisis
2000 Election False Vote Count Crisis
2004 Election False Vote Count Crisis
Dubious War on Drugs Crisis (American are using crack)
Education Crisis
School Shooting Crisis
GOP REPUBLICAN Drug Money Laundering Crisis
GOP REPUBLICAN Drug Cartel Kickbacks Crisis
Prime Time Soft Pornography Crisis
GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Mad Cow Crisis
Poison Water Crisis
Poison Air Crisis
Poison Agriculture Crisis (Asia won’t accept our food)
GOP REPUBLICAN Treasury Robbery Crisis
American People Lack Confidence in Government Crisis
World Chaos Crisis
Food Price Crisis
Global Warming Crisis
Disasters in America Crisis
Katrina Crisis
Racist Talk Radio Crisis
Racist Bill O’Reilly, Fox News, Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker Crisis
Housing Crisis
U.S. Dollar Crisis
Deceptive GOP REPUBLICAN Administration Crisis
Negative World Perception Crisis
Illegal Iraq War Crisis (Hague Trial of Bush, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Failin Failin)
Illegal Iraq War Crisis (Hague Trial of Bush, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Failin Failin)
Illegal Iraq War Crisis (Hague Trial of Bush, Cheney, Rice, McCain, Failin Failin)
Corporate Welfare Robbing the US Treasury (American People)
WALL STREET selling American Big Banks to foreign billionaires Crisis giving foreign sweatshop billionaires direct votes in Our Economy, Way of Life and Government.

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The Multiple Crisis that are hurting OUR COUNTRY are the fault of the Administration, Supreme Court, Congress and especially the GOP REPUBLICAN Party for allowing GOP REPUBLICAN International War Suspects McBush, Cheney, and Rice to lie, cheat and steal their way into the Highest Office on Earth and remain there for eight years. The Entire World thinks that America was ridiculous for allowing GOP REPUBLICAN criminals and scoundrels to steal their way into office not once but twice. If you locked three Rock Wellers in a jewelry shop for eight years without supervision, what would you expect upon returning? Why are Americans surprised that the three scoundrels McBush, Cheney, and Rice have smashed up the place and almost destroyed America in eight years? You should have expected bad things from those criminals eight years ago and stopped them back then. Instead of stopping the trillion dollar criminals, the GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) went after the Dixie Chicks, Paris Hilton, Rosie O’Donnel, and Britney Spears. How stupid.

Now the GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION (Wacko Bill Meltdown O’Reilly, Newsmax, O’Reilly Racist Factor, FOX News, Super-racist Sean Hannity, Glen Beck, The New Yorker) pursues Boy George, because he might be a threat. What an incredibly stupid, stupid, and racist GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION we have.

The World is watching and laughing at our stupid GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION and defunct WALL STREET robber barons greedy selfish shortsighted failed Supercapitalistic system. Since when does the prerequisite for becoming the President includes being a poor military academy student, out of action POW, computer illiterate, senior citizen and husband of a recovering drug addict / thief / criminal?

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is qualified to be a former POW and Mrs. McThief is qualified to be a recovering drug addict. What a pair and example for our youth.

Sarah Failin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioners the North Pole trailer lady will not help our country as vice president.

Force the GOP REPUBLICAN s to fix their gigantic GOP REPUBLICAN SUPERCAPITALISM mess or dissolve the defunct and failing GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Get Rich By Selling America Party.

The defunct GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War against the objection of Most Americans and the Entire World. Now the GOP REPUBLICAN s are obligated to imGOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATIONtely stop this illegal Iraq War; involve Europe in the peace keeping / rebuilding task; and face the International Court of Justice (The Hague) on charges of War Crimes.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire and Sarah Trailer Failin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner swim in the OIL sewer.


GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Reagan was an idiot.
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush I and idiot sidekick Quayle accomplished nothing.


Democratic Success Bill Clinton Balanced the Budget
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintained a barrel of OOIIILLLL at $24
Democratic Success Bill Clinton maintained a gallon of gasoline at $1.50
Democratic Success Bill Clinton achieved an excellent US relationship with the World


GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II attacks the US Constitution and steals elections from the American People
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II attacks the United Nations and declares an illegal war against an innocent country Iraq
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II smuggles criminal Saudi Arabian friends of the Bush out of the country who were key figures in the attack against our country
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire OOIIILLLL criminal WALL STREET friends to illegally raise a barrel of OOIIILLLL from $24 to $145
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II speculates with his millionaire OOIIILLLL criminal WALL STREET friends to illegally raise a gallon of gasoline from $1.50 to $4.50
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II illegally starts wire tapping citizens, torturing prisoners, and attacking Mexican-American workers (who are the backbone of American labor)
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II tarnishes America’s good name with the World
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II is perceived as a villain to the World
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Bush II, Cheney, and Rice War Crimes questioning by The Hague
GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is owned by millionaire OOIIILLLL criminals and will continue the Bush policies of failures

AMERICA belongs to AMERICANS and not to greedy GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET criminals speculating away our children’s future.


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GOD BLESS AMERICA OUR HOME. Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama.

Americans are too smart to fall for diabolical divisive GOP REPUBLICAN tricks.
Leave out divisive hate mongering (race, gender, religion).

Barack

Focus on the ECONOMY, HOMES, IRAQ WAR, OOIIILLLL, ENERGY, FAMILY, MORALITY, INTERNATIONAL FRIENDSHIP, AND ONE AMERCA.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law has a wonderful, loving, intelligent and spiritual family with high morals. This is exactly what is expected of the First Family.

Return Democratic Values to the White House and get rid of GOP REPUBLICAN Get Rich Quick By Selling America to Foreigners and Robbing the US Treasury.

GOP REPUBLICAN U.S. Treasury Raiders Must Stop Now
GOP REPUBLICAN U.S. Treasury Raiders Must Stop Now
GOP REPUBLICAN U.S. Treasury Raiders Must Stop Now


GOP REPUBLICAN Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush entered the White House Seven Years Ago with OOIIILLLL at $24 a barrel.
GOP REPUBLICAN Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush entered the White House Seven Years Ago with OOIIILLLL at $24 a barrel.
GOP REPUBLICAN Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush entered the White House Seven Years Ago with OOIIILLLL at $24 a barrel.


Americans, Europeans and the World are under the impression that Rich GOP REPUBLICAN s are pathological and thieves. And they are right. False statements, cheating and undermining Democratic values are GOP REPUBLICAN tools to hurt mankind in their selfish destructive quest to own and control this beautiful World that’s temporarily enjoyed by all.

GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush must answer to the fact that a barrel of OOIIILLLL was $24 when McBush took office and now a barrel of OOIIILLLL is $145. GOP REPUBLICAN rich OOIIILLLL conspiracy has undermined the American People and Our Economy in their quest for selfish, destructive and greedy ill gotten Obscene Super-capitalistic WALL STREET gains.

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush seven years ago changed a barrel of OOIIILLLL from $24 into today’s Obscene Super-capitalistic greedy out of control $145.

Will the American people sit on their hands and allow Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush continued out of control WALL STREET Obscene Supercapitalistic greed to raise a barrel of OOIIILLLL to $200?

The price of OOIIILLLL is a national emergency. OOIIILLLL should be imGOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATIONtely nationalized for United States national defense.

GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush within seven years changed a $24 barrel of OOIIILLLL into a $145 barrel of OOIIILLLL.

Were the GOP REPUBLICAN Failures Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush serving the American People or serving their Obscene Super-rich friends when they help change the price of a barrel of OOIIILLLL from $24 to $145 in just seven years?

It’s time to Nationalize U.S. OOIIILLLL and the Energy Industries for National Defense.

300,000,000 Americans come first when it comes to the greatest benefits to the greatest number. When one percent of the population (Obscene Super rich), owns and runs everything to the destruction of the ninety nine percent (typical Americans), then something must change. Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush represents greed and destruction that must stop.

If you love America, then you should inspire the American People to rise higher and HOPE for better days.

America is HOPEFUL and GREAT and will follow the HOPEFUL and inspirational message of Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law.

This is the greatest presidential race in history, because Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law is flying like an eagle.

GOD BLESS AMERICA OUR HOME. Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama.

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Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law loves America and the troops.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law will work with the international community to end the Iraq War in 2009.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law will bring American troops home in 2009 and reward them with benefits for homes, college, medical care, and jobs.

American troops are overwhelmingly voting for Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law


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EUROPE, CHINA, RUSSIA, SAUDI ARABIA, AND SOUTH AMERICA ARE WATCHING YOU


THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA’S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA’S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
THE WORLD IS WATCHING AMERICA’S 2008 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.


AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE WHETHER AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE WHETHER AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.
AND THE WORLD WILL JUDGE WHETHER AMERICA IS SUITED TO BE ITS MORAL LEADER.

London, Paris, Berlin, Moscow, Madrid, Rome, Tokyo, Peking, and the other capitals all look forward to cooperating with President Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law.

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush policies of failures are afraid to stand on stage with Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama.

Mumbles Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush petitioned to have a dictionary close by to keep up with Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law’s intellectual discourse.

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire’s public insults towards his own wife and McBush’s public insults towards the AMERICAN PEOPLE have precluded them from moral judgment upon the World. Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush and Sarah trailer Failin Failin OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner OOOOIIIIILLLLLL Commissioner lack moral and intellectual credibility to sit in judgment of the World and serve the AMERICAN PEOPLE.

AMERICA is voting in an intellectual scholar from Harvard Law to right OUR COUNTRY and prosecute the criminal Obscene Super-capitalists.

The World is watching how a self professed Christian Moral Nation handles its pivotal point in history during the 2008 presidential election.

Will AMERICA rise to the occasion with maturity, dignity, intellect and grace?

Or will AMERICA degenerate into the GOP REPUBLICAN ’s Policy of Hate?

Will GOP REPUBLICAN s again toss evil words of hate to OUR PUBLIC and promote a filthy campaign worthy of pre-WWII Germany?

This is a pivotal time in AMERICAN history.

Will AMERICA run a dignified 2008 presidential election?

Or will AMERICA allow Hillbillies to take over the GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION and orchestrate the message of hate that will shock the watching World?

A barrel of OOIIILLLL was $24 when McBush took office.

It's time for AMERICA to nationalize OOIIILLLL and Energy Industries for National Defense.

Rich OOIIILLLL billionaires and WALL STREET (Obscene Super-capitalism) selling out Our Country the United States of AMERICA for their own selfish profits is unpatriotic and treason.

AMERICA belongs to AMERICANS and not to WALL STREET sell-out Obscene Super-capitalists who send trillions of OUR U.S. DOLLARS overseas in chase of the highest imGOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATIONte return on their private investments. Greed does not work and greed is destroying OUR COUNTRY. Dependence on foreign OOIIILLLL and OOIIILLLL billionaire businessmen are destroying OUR COUNTRY.

ImGOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATIONtely nationalize OOIIILLLL and energy industries for U.S. National Defense. It’s the intelligent thing to do. AMERICANS are collectively much more important than a handful of billionaire Obscene Super-capitalists on WALL STREET who have allegiance to no one, but their own private, selfish, destructive, and nation undermining capital gains.

McCentury McSame (McBush Part III) wants to continue McBush's failed policies.

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GOP REPUBLICAN LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE-MCBUSH HOODWINKED AMERICA

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush (policies of failures) has a lot to answer for:

War fought on the premise of uprooting weapons of mass destruction that were never found,

The failure to catch Osama Bin Laden,

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush Disgraceful proclamation “mission accomplish”

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush assumption that we would be greeted as liberators and not invaders

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush invasion of our white house (America house)

Turning Iran into the "greatest beneficiary" of the Iraq war

Manipulating the price of OOIIILLLL from $24.00 a barrel to $145.00 a barrel. whose interest are they lobbying for? Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush policies are not in America’s interest.

Plans to keep American troops in Iraq for 100 years

Plans to initiate the draft to secure enough troops

These are just a few of Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush policies of failures that must stop.


AMERICA needs change now in a better direction.

Harvard Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law will demonstrate how Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush has hurt OUR COUNTRY.

The World is watching how a self professed Christian Moral Nation handles its pivotal point in history during the 2008 presidential election.

Europe is looking forward to renewing friendship and cooperation with the United States through President Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law.

The overwhelming majority of American soldiers are voting for Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law

The World is Watching one America.

United Sates of America

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GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER RICH SPECULATION TRILLION DOLLAR FRAUD / TREASON AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER RICH ROB U.S. TREASURY AND AMERICAN PEOPLE

MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS ARE BECOMING POOR, BECAUSE GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET SUPER RICH HAVE STOLEN OUR NATIONALTREASURY WEALTH THROUGH FRAUD SPECULATIONS

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Super Rich Are Emptying Our National Treasury To Give Each Other $10 Million Dollars Bonuses Every Year While Outsourcing Our American Jobs To Foreign Sweatshops. GOP REPUBLICAN s lobby for no regulations to steal the United States National Wealth from the American People. This is not GOP REPUBLICAN patriotism in the least, but treason.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Super Rich giving each other multi-billion dollar unsecured loans backed only by a handshake or slap on the back during golf outings and drink parties. Our United States Treasury emptied by these GOP REPUBLICAN s every year in exchange for Annual Mammoth National Debt forced upon the American People to pay.

GOP REPUBLICAN McCentury Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is a weak nominee who lacks the intelligence to receive the 3:00 am call.

Americans are tired of corruption from McBush and his Obscenely Super Rich WALL STREET Robber Barons.

Stop Corporate Welfare.

Stop CEO Welfare.

Stop Millionaire Welfare.

Stop the rich from outsourcing American jobs.

Stop giving Golden Parachutes to the Rich for outsourcing American jobs.

Stop the Rich from using Our Public Offices for Private Ill Gotten Gains.

Stop the Rich from stealing Our National Treasury.

Stop the Rich from robbing Our National Treasury and raising the National debt.

Stop the Rich from Tax Avoidance and Tax Havens.

Stop the Rich from importing illegal drugs by the ton and destroying Our Country in the name of
WALL STREET high returns on investment.

Stop the Rich from eroding Our Constitutional Rights.

Stop the Rich (McBush, Cheney, Rice, Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire) from selling Our America to Saudi Arabia, China, India) in the name of outsourcing American jobs, selling American Banks, selling bulk shares of key American corporations.

Nationalize the American OOIIILLLL Industry for National Defense, if you love America.
America is not for sale now or ever.

Obscenely Super Rich Capitalistic privileged C students with no business running hotdog stands illegally place themselves, their rich friends, and their rich family members into the highest positions of OUR COUNTRY to maintain, promote, and expand their ill gotten wealth at the expense of Average Americans. Do you still think that lieing GOP REPUBLICAN s are patriots? I think not.

Greed and stupidity are destroying Our Country and it must stop.

America must get back to moral decency, family values, respect, honor, scholarship, and service to the general Public.

America is about Public Service and not private greed.

Change is happening and America, Europe and the World welcome cooperation.

Out with GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Robber Barons.

In with the U.S. Constitution and the American People.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

We The People Are Voting For Harvard Scholar, Irish-American, and Constitution Law Professor Barack Obama.


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LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE-MCBUSH AND THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE (THE HAGUE) WILL HOLD MCBUSH, CHENEY AND RICE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ILLEGAL IRAQ WAR

The American People Have Been MCCAINED, HOODWINKED, BUSHWHACKED By the GOP REPUBLICAN LOBBYISTS PARTY OF

The GOP REPUBLICAN Party has sold its soul in exchange for private WALL STREET gains that have sent trillions of Our U.S. dollars overseas to sweatshops and tax havens at the expense of the American People. This blindly overzealous Las Vegas gambling style GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET greed, which is selling to the highest bidder Our Beautiful Country must stop. America doesn’t belong to the greedy GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Banks. Our Beautiful America belongs with Americans. It’s time to get that straight.

The OOIIILLLL Crisis is a National Emergency that must be imGOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATIONtely Nationalized for National Defense. America must be saved by the American People. We’ve learned that America cannot rely on irresponsibly greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s WALL STREET Banks that have no loyalty to the American People. The greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s are outsourcing American jobs to overseas sweatshops and sending trillions of Our U.S. dollars to overseas tax haven. These greedy GOP REPUBLICAN acts are giving foreign governments and private billionaires a direct say and ownership in Our Country. The GOP REPUBLICAN s are not patriots, but destroyers of the American Dream. We the People must take back Our Beautiful America Now.

International Court of Justice (The Hague) will question Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush-Cheney-Rice in January about their involvement in the Iraq War.

A long-delayed Senate committee report endorsed by Democrats and some GOP REPUBLICAN s concluded that President McBush and his aides built the public case for war against Iraq by exaggerating available intelligence and by ignoring disagreements among spy agencies about Iraq’s weapons programs and Saddam Hussein’s links to Al Qaeda.

The report was released after years of partisan squabbling, and it represented the close of five years of investigations by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence into the use, abuse and faulty assessments of intelligence leading to the invasion of Iraq in March 2003.

That some McBush administration claims about the Iraqi threat turned out to be false is hardly new. But the report, based on a detailed review of public statements by Mr. McBush and other officials, was the most comprehensive effort to date to assess whether policy makers systematically painted a more dire picture about Iraq than was justified by the available intelligence.

The 170-page report accuses Mr. McBush, Vice President Dick Cheney and other top officials of repeatedly overstating the Iraqi threat in the emotional aftermath of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

In a statement accompanying the report the president and his advisers undertook a relentless public campaign in the aftermath of the attacks to use the war against Al Qaeda as a justification for overthrowing Saddam Hussein.

The report on the prewar statements found that on some important issues, most notably on what was believed to be Iraq’s nuclear, biological and chemical weapons programs, the public statements from Mr. McBush, Mr. Cheney and other senior officials were substantiated. The administration statements did not reflect the intelligence agencies’ uncertainties about the evidence or the disputes among them.

In a separate report the intelligence committee provided new details about a series of clandestine meetings in Rome and Paris between Pentagon officials and Iranian dissidents in 2001 and 2003. The meetings included discussions about possible covert actions to destabilize the government in Tehran, and were used by the Pentagon officials to glean information about rivalries in Iran and what was thought to be an Iranian hit team intending to attack American troops in Afghanistan.

The report criticized the meetings as ill advised and keeping the State Department and intelligence agencies in the dark about the meetings, which the report portrayed as part of a rogue intelligence operation.

The two reports were the final parts of the committee’s so-called Phase 2 investigation of prewar intelligence on Iraq and related issues. The first phase of the inquiry, begun in the summer of 2003 and completed in July 2004, identified grave faults in the C.I.A.’s analysis of the threat posed by Mr. Hussein.

The report on Iraq was especially critical of statements by the president and vice president linking Iraq to Al Qaeda and raising the possibility that Mr. Hussein might supply the terrorist group with unconventional weapons. Representing to the American people that the two had an operational partnership and posed a single, indistinguishable threat was fundamentally misleading and led the nation to war on false premises.

GOP REPUBLICAN s on the committee sharply dissented from the report’s findings and suggested that the investigation was a partisan smoke screen to obscure the real story: that the C.I.A. failed the McBush administration by delivering intelligence assessments to policy makers that have since been discredited.

The report about the McBush administration’s public statements offers some new details about the intelligence information that was available to policy makers as they built a case for war. For instance, in September 2002 the defense secretary told the Senate Armed Services Committee that the Iraq problem cannot be solved by airstrikes alone, because Iraqi chemical and biological weapons were so deeply buried that they could not be penetrated by American bombs.

Two months later, however, the National Intelligence Council wrote an assessment concluding that the Iraqi underground weapons facilities identified by the intelligence agencies are vulnerable to conventional, precision-guided, penetrating munitions because they are not deeply buried.

Congress had never been told about the National Intelligence Council’s assessment.

International Court of Justice (The Hague in Europe) will question Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush-Cheney-Rice in January about their involvement in the Iraq War.

The OOIIILLLL Crisis is a National Emergency that must be imGOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATIONtely Nationalized for National Defense. America must be saved by the American People. We’ve learned that America cannot rely on irresponsibly greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s WALL STREET Banks that have no loyalty to the American People. The greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s are outsourcing American jobs to overseas sweatshops and sending trillions of Our U.S. dollars to overseas tax haven. These greedy GOP REPUBLICAN acts are giving foreign governments and private billionaires a direct say and ownership in Our Country. The GOP REPUBLICAN s are not patriots, but destroyers of the American Dream. We the People must take back Our Beautiful America Now.

The American People Have Been Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaireed-McBushed-Hoodwinked-Bushwhacked By the GOP REPUBLICAN Lobbyists and Party of .

America will restore it’s Constitution and closely regulate Criminal WALL STREET GOP REPUBLICAN s.

Your choice between a Harvard Law Scholar Obama or Computer Illiterate Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire


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PRESIDENT OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW PREDICTED TO HEAL AMERICA AND THE WORLD

The match-up between John Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire and Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law is close in nationwide surveys in the United States, but around the World it's no contest: Obama of Harvard Law prevails.

A survey of 24 nations taken by the Pew Global Attitudes Project finds high levels of interest in the U.S. presidential election and broad optimism that American foreign policy "will change for the better" after the inauguration of a new president next year.

In 21 of the 23 foreign countries, those polled express more faith in Obama of Harvard Law than in Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire to "do the right thing regarding World affairs." In the other two nations, Pakistan and Jordan, neither inspires much confidence.

"Obama of Harvard Law obviously has an appeal that has crossed the waters," says Andrew Kohut, who directs the Pew project. "Some of it may have to do with his being associated with opposition to the war in Iraq, which is consistent with views of people around the World. Some of it may have to do with his charismatic qualities and the fact that he's different than the typical American presidential candidate."

Among the findings:

•Interest is high. Japanese are even more likely than Americans to say they are following the election closely. At least of half of those surveyed in Germany, Australia, Jordan and Britain say they are paying attention. In most of the nations surveyed, a third or more are tuning in.

•Optimism about a new president is broad. About two-thirds of those surveyed in France, Spain, Germany, Nigeria, South Africa and Tanzania predict U.S. foreign policy will improve after the inauguration. In 20 of 24 nations, more say U.S. foreign policy will change for the better than for the worse.

•Obama of Harvard Law is heavily favored. In 21 of 23 countries, more people have faith in the Illinois senator than in Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire to "do the right thing" in foreign affairs. The two contenders were essentially tied in the United States and Jordan.

In most countries, Obama of Harvard Law is also more trusted than Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire. The contrast was particular steep in Europe, where McBush made his farewell presidential tour. In France, where he visits Friday, 13% say they have "a lot" or some confidence in McBush to do the right thing. Six times as many, 84%, say that of Obama of Harvard Law.

If the best the GOP REPUBLICAN Get Rich By Selling America Party can do is Bush and Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire, then the GOP REPUBLICAN Party should be dissolved.

Your choice between Harvard Law Scholar Irish-American Barack Obama or Computer Illiterate C Student GOP REPUBLICAN Sell America For A Quick Profit Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire.

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United States Constitution - We the people of the United States


Democrat $24 barrel of OOIIILLLL

DEMOCRAT $1.50 A GALLON OF GASOLINE


OOIIILLLL was $24 a barrel when Democrats left office


A gallon of gasoline was $1.50 when Democrats left office


GOP REPUBLICAN s took office to change OOIIILLLL to $145 a barrel

GOP REPUBLICAN s took office to change gasoline to $4.50 a gallon


GOP REPUBLICAN $145 barrel of OOIIILLLL


A gallon of gasoline is $4.50 under the GOP REPUBLICAN s

Rising OOIIILLLL Prices Swell Profits at Exxon and Shell

You do the math and decide if Texas OOIIILLLL millionaires warrant investigations to protect the American people.


BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, AND LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRES


Aren’t there LAWS against defrauding the American People (US Constitution), robbing the US Treasury, and using US Government Offices for private gains?

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Conspiracy to defraud the American People and steal from the United States Treasury.


GOP REPUBLICAN abusive power and blind greed run amok to transfer the American economy into the private capitalistic pockets of the Obscene Super rich who own and run WALL STREET.


GOP REPUBLICAN s are manipulating the market system to make the many (95 percent of American citizens) suffer and serve the Obscene Superwealthy few (5 percent WALL STREET Obscene Supercapitalists).


GOP REPUBLICAN s Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush III Trillion Dollar War Crisis


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET MILLIONAIRES ARE PAYING THEMSELVES $10,000,000 BONUSES FROM MONEY STOLEN FROM THE UNITED STATES TREASURY, WHILE SENDING OUR AMERCAN JOBS OVERSEAS. RECKLESS OUTSOURCING IS DESTROYING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING AND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.


No more GOP REPUBLICAN lies, conspiracies, and grand larcenies.


GOP REPUBLICAN $155 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $175 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $195 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $215 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $235 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $255 barrel of OOIIILLLL speculations


GOP REPUBLICAN $4.50 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $5.00 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $5.50 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $6.00 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $6.50 a Gallon Gasoline speculations
GOP REPUBLICAN $7.00 a Gallon Gasoline speculations


When does it stop if ever?


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Greed Speculation does not work.
GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Greed Speculation is hurting America.
GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Greed Speculation is hurting Our Constitutional Rights.


Stop GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL speculations today


GOP REPUBLICAN OOIIILLLL addiction has become the new crack drug and we better get off soon


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET MILLIONAIRES ARE PAYING THEMSELVES $10,000,000 BONUSES FROM MONEY STOLEN FROM THE UNITED STATES TREASURY, WHILE SENDING OUR AMERCAN JOBS OVERSEAS. RECKLESS AMERICAN JOB OUTSOURCING IS DESTROYING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING AND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.


Nationalize U.S. OOIIILLLL For National Defense.
Nationalize U.S. OOIIILLLL For National Defense.
Nationalize U.S. OOIIILLLL For National Defense.


Clean nuclear electric energy is the answer. USA partnership with France will produce clean abundant Nuclear Fusion electricity. Eighty percent of French electricity is produce through nuclear energy. USA will learn nuclear production of clean energy.

Over 35 percent of France’s total energy requirement and over 78 percent of French electricity demands are met by nuclear energy. In 1999, France generated 375 billion kWh of electricity from its fifty-eight pressurized water reactors currently in operation. The electrical generation capacity of these plants is 65,702 MWe. France also operates one fast reactor, which generates 250 MWe of energy.

Because of their large operation capacity, the French also export energy, mainly to the rest of Europe, roughly 72.1 TWh per year. This large amount of energy generation allows France to be more energy self-sufficient than most European countries. In fact, France is over 50 percent able to meet its own energy needs, an incredibly large percentage for a modernized, western country. In comparison, Italy is only 18 percent energy self-sufficient. This was one of the goals of the French Nuclear program, to decrease French dependence on foreign energy sources.

The French national energy company, Electricite¢ de France (EDF) runs France’s nuclear power plants. The EDF was created in 1946 to alleviate the energy shortage that occurred just after World War II. In the 1950s the EDF provided France with the energy to modernize itself into an industrial power. However like most energy corporations, the EDF relied heavily on hydrocarbon generation up until the first OOIIILLLL CRISIS occurred. Then it was decided that the EDF should pursue NUCLEAR ENERGY TO REDUCE FRENCH DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN ENERGY.


We the people of the United States.


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WHY A BARREL OF OOIIILLLL ROSE FROM $24 TO $145 WHEN GOP REPUBLICAN OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRES BUSH, CHENEY, RICE, AND LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRES TOOK OVER


GOP REPUBLICAN Get Rich By Selling America And Using Our Public Office For Private Gains Is Treason against the American People. Big OOIIILLLL inside trading millionaires Bush, Cheney, Rice, and Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire will answer for war crimes.

The White House connection to Big OOIIILLLL goes too far. Now Chevron's OOIIILLLL tanker named Condoleezza Rice is too much OOIIILLLL conspiracy in the face of the American people.

The double-hulled OOIIILLLL giant, Condoleezza Rice, is part of the international OOIIILLLL tanker fleet of the San Francisco-based multinational OOIIILLLL firm, named several years ago Rice because she is a Chevron OOIIILLLL board member and stockholder.

Rice serves on Chevron's OOIIILLLL board and Bush Administration.

Far too cozy relationship among multinational energy giants, Bush and his key advisers -- including Vice President Dick Cheney and Rice.

There's never been an administration in power in this country that has been so close to a single industry, the OOIIILLLL-and-gas industry.

You wonder why a barrel of OOIIILLLL rose from $24 to $145 when OOIIILLLL millionaires Bush, Cheney, Rice took over. You wonder why a gallon of gasoline rose from $1.50 to $4.50 when OOIIILLLL millionaires Bush, Cheney, Rice took over.

Public Integrity raised the issue of the OOIIILLLL tanker's moniker. Look at the president and his background, the vice president (executive at Halliburton), (Commerce Secretary) Don Evans and his OOIIILLLL interests . . . and now this."

Rice closeness to a major OOIIILLLL company. It's not every day that someone has an OOIIILLLL tanker named after her.

Bush specifically request the Condoleezza Rice OOIIILLLL tanker be given a name change -- particularly since Chevron OOIIILLLL does business on six continents and 25 countries, and has been sued for human rights abuses in Nigeria.

The Center for Constitutional Rights filed suit in U.S. District Court in San Francisco, charging Chevron OOIIILLLL aided Nigerian police in attacks on local communities protesting Chevron OOIIILLLL production activities.

The Rice OOIIILLLL tanker came up at the White House briefing in connection with the incident in Nigeria.

Chevron OOIIILLLL giant has no intention of renaming the Condoleezza Rice and noted that board member Carla Hills also had a Chevron OOIIILLLL tanker named in her honor before she was appointed former President George Bush's trade secretary -- and the vessel has kept the name.

Naming OOIIILLLL tankers after members of the OOIIILLLL board of directors.

Rice's office did not return repeated phone calls, but she told Fox TV that she has no regrets regarding her Chevron OOIIILLLL ties and huge WALL STREET OOIIILLLL profits. Big OOIIILLLL has been good to me.

Rice and the White House decisions directly involving Chevron OOIIILLLL. Condi Rice is dealing with issues that are enormous interest to Chevron OOIIILLLL. From a public relations standpoint, they're desperately hoping this is one OOIIILLLL tanker that doesn't run aground. That could be a major problem.


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IRISH-AMERICAN BARACK OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW WILL bring back our United States Constitution and Rights of the American people. Who is better to save the country than an Ivy League United States Constitution Law professor who loves his country more than GOP REPUBLICAN s love ill gotten WALL STREET speculation money.


GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET MILLIONAIRES ARE PAYING THEMSELVES $10,000,000 BONUSES FROM MONEY STOLEN FROM THE UNITED STATES TREASURY, WHILE SENDING OUR AMERCAN JOBS OVERSEAS. RECKLESS OUTSOURCING IS DESTROYING AMERICAN MANUFACTURING AND THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.


Stop GOP REPUBLICAN Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire from selling our America.


This remarkable unleashing of deep Democratic energies went hand in hand with clever GOP REPUBLICAN efforts to subvert the will of the American People, whether by overt corruption or covert manipulation. This corruption or manipulation resulted from the widespread market activity that was incompatible with the good of the American Public. American Citizens were well aware that the voices of the People could be offset by powerful GOP REPUBLICAN market elites bending the system to serve the interests of the few. The economic power of the GOP REPUBLICAN s was recognized to be the primary source of WALL STREET speculators’ corruptions.

Democratic dialogue was motivated by opposition to the market–driven greedy GOP REPUBLICAN s obsessed with obscene quantity of moneymaking with little regard for the quality of the Public’s Democracy. Democratic love of wisdom was contrasted sharply against the GOP REPUBLICAN s love of money.

Impeach the defunct GOP REPUBLICAN Party of WALL STREET Obscene Super Rich Thieves for milking our country the way wolves milk cows. America deserves intelligent and honest leadership demonstrated by scholars who love America, Americans and Our Freedom. America the Beautiful belongs to All Americans and will no longer be the plaything for WALL STREET Obscene Super Rich GOP REPUBLICAN s wolves.


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INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE (THE HAGUE) WISHES TO SPEAK WITH MCBUSH, CHENEY, RICE, LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE IN JANUARY FOR WAR CRIMES.

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Get Rich By Selling America Party started the illegal Iraq War. Now the GOP REPUBLICAN s are totally obligated to imGOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATIONtely stop the illegal Iraq War.

Mumbles Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel and did not always obey the rules, which contributed to a very low class rank (894 of 899) that he did not aim to improve. Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire earned a reputation as a partying man. The planes he was flying crashed twice and once collided with power lines.

McSame Poor Military Record / McWife Former Criminal Drug Addict

GOP REPUBLICAN John Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire (McBush III) is a weak candidate, but that does not give him the excuse to publicly insult his wife who is a recovering drug addict.

In 1989, Cindy Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire became addicted to opioid painkillers such as Percocet and Vicodin, which she initially took to alleviate pain following two spinal surgeries for ruptured discs and to ease emotional stress during the Keating Five scandal, which involved her as a bookkeeper who had difficulty finding receipts.

The addiction progressed to where she resorted to stealing drugs from her own AVMT. During 1992, Tom Gosinski, the director of government and international affairs for AVMT, discovered her drug theft.

Subsequently in 1992, her parents staged an intervention to force her to get help; she told her husband about her problem, attended a drug treatment facility, began outpatient sessions, and ended her three years of active addiction.

In January 1993, Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire terminated Gosinski's employment on grounds of budgetary reasons. In spring 1993, Gosinski tipped off the Drug Enforcement Administration to investigate Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire's drug theft, and a federal investigation ensued.

Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire's defense team, led by Washington lawyer John Dowd, secured an agreement with the U.S. Attorney's office that limited her punishment to financial restitution and enrollment in a diversion program, without any public disclosure.

Meanwhile, in early 1994 Gosinski filed a wrongful termination lawsuit against Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire, which he told her he would settle for $250,000. In April 1994, Dowd requested that Maricopa County officials investigate Gosinski for extortion. The Phoenix New Times was about to publish a negatively-cast article about the whole affair.

Cindy Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire pre-empted this by publicly revealing her past addiction, stating she hoped it would give fellow drug addicts courage in their struggles: "Although my conduct did not result in compromising any missions of AVMT, my actions were wrong, and I regret them."

A flurry of press attention followed, including charges by Gosinski that she had asked him to lie concerning her drug use when the Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaires were applying to adopt their baby from Bangladesh and statements by past AVMT employees that Gosinski had once threatened to blackmail her.

The Arizona Republic published an editorial cartoon ridiculing the motivations for her AVMT work and an award dinner in her honor was canceled citing poor ticket sales. In the end, both Gosinski's lawsuit and the extortion investigation against him were dropped.

AVMT concluded its activities in 1995. That year, Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire founded a new organization, the Hensley Family Foundation, which donates monies towards children's programs in Arizona and nationally, and she was largely a stay-at-home mom during the balance of the 1990s. She also held positions as vice president, director, and vice chair of Hensley & Co.

It is difficult to protect the country with McSame who graduated last in his war college and last on the battlefield. You cannot protect the country while spending your career as a prisoner.

Basically, McSame is qualified to be a prisoner and his McWife a recovering drug counselor.

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire swims in the sewer.


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Racial profile raids violate our Constitutional Rights and must be stopped imGOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATIONtely. American industries rely heavily upon Latin workers and must protect them and American industries from these violations. These workers are productive and vital members of our society and must be protected.

If someone commits a crime and is picked up by the authority, then by all means check his/her status. Destructive people should be checked and separated from society.

Pulling a racial profile raid (telling workers to get off the roof and stand in line, because they have brown skin) is a violation of our Constitutional Rights.

Raiding a Latin birthday party and telling everyone to line up is a violation of our Constitutional Rights.

Raiding an Indian wedding and telling everyone to line up is a violation of our Constitutional Rights.

Going after law breakers and checking their status are correct actions.
Patrolling the borders to maintain America's safety from smugglers is the right thing to do.
Prosecuting WALL STREET bankers for drug money laundry is the right thing to do.
Prosecuting owners and executives of container ships bringing illegal drugs by the tons is the right thing to do.
Prosecuting WALL STREET price fixers, market manipulators and destructive speculators is the right thing to do.

Going after innocent productive members of society, because they have brown skin is a violation of our Constitutional Rights.

Americans have grown so fat, lazy and addicted that if you asked them to cook their own food; watch their own kids; clean their own homes; wash their own clothes; build their own homes; landscape their own yards; pick their own food; or repair their own cars; then they would faint.


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Democrats left office with gasoline at $1.50 a gallon and OOIIILLLL at $24 a barrel.

GOP REPUBLICAN takes office and raises gasoline to $4.50 a gallon and OOIIILLLL to $145 a barrel.

Which group loves America and which group loves money by any means?

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire swims in the sewer.

GOP REPUBLICAN MCBUSH TAX BREAK FOR THE OBSCENE SUPER RICH
Let's call this trillion-dollar giveaway what it is - the Paris Hilton Tax Break. It's about giving billions of dollars to billionaire heirs and heiresses at a time when American taxpayers just can't afford it.

The REPUBLICAN s have brought out the Paris Hilton Tax Break in June because they're eager to make it an election issue in November.

And I think that's fine. In fact, I'm eager for the American people to choose. Because if people want their government to spend one trillion dollars - an amount more than double what we've spent on Iraq, Afghanistan, and the War on Terror combined - on tax breaks for multimillionaires and multibillionaires, than the GOP REPUBLICAN Get Rich Quick By Selling America and Robbing the US Treasury is your party.

If the American people want to borrow billions more from the Chinese, spend billions more in taxes to pay the interest on our debt, and watch billions cut from health care and education and Gulf Coast Reconstruction, then the Paris Hilton Tax Break is your tax break

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law takes the high road, while Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire swims in the sewer.


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GROWING FOREIGN STAKE IN U.S. BANKS AND OUTRAGEOUS OOIIILLLL PRICES COMPROMISE OUR NATIONAL SECURITY

GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Speculators Selling America To High Bidding Foreign Governments and Billionaires Compromises Our National Security

The nation's biggest financial firms, battered by huge losses in their mortgage businesses, are relying on an enigmatic source for cash: foreign governments in the Middle East and Asia.

Citigroup sold a 7.8 percent stake in the company worth $14.5 billion to a group of investors, including the government of Singapore and Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, as it revealed a colossal $10 billion loss. Merrill Lynch reported a massive loss, said that it sold a special class of stock worth $6.6 billion to funds managed by South Korea and Kuwait.

U.S. Banks have sought help from foreign government investment pools, known as sovereign wealth funds.

The worsening credit crunch in the United States has left domestic financial institutions with little choice but to seek help from foreign governments that have been enriched by the surge in the price of OOIIILLLL and the trade gap between the United States and Asia.

Once satisfied with holding safe bonds such as U.S. Treasurys, these countries now are stockpiling some of the largest investment funds in history and are looking for bargains in the ailing U.S. financial sector. Sovereign wealth funds have invested more than $40 billion in WALL STREET's biggest names, including UBS, Morgan Stanley and Bear Stearns.

The rapid rise of these funds represents a fundamental shift in financial power away from the United States. And their growing clout is causing concern on Capitol Hill.

"As investments by sovereign wealth funds in American companies increase and the specter of control and undue influence by government entities looms. "We should be keeping a watchful eye on these investments as they increase in size and scope."

A major issue for lawmakers is the transparency of these funds. Some, like Norway's, which has $350 billion, are upfront about their activities. Others, such as the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority's $875 billion fund, which is the World's largest, are more secretive.

Sovereign wealth funds recently have preferred to make passive investments that do not allow them to have any say in management decisions.

They don't want to worry the markets. "But you have to ask the question: 'What do they really want?' And that's the mystery behind these funds, we don't know who runs them."

Lawmakers reacted strongly against a Dubai firm that wanted to buy U.S. seaports in 2006 and a state-run Chinese firm that tried to take over a U.S. OOIIILLLL company in 2005. But since those incidents, sovereign wealth fund managers have become more savvy in their dealings with Congress by hiring lobbyists and by keeping their stakes low enough that they don't trigger reviews by regulators.

Little furor erupted last summer when Dubai paid $825 million for U.S. clothing retailer Barneys New York in June and followed with a 19.9 percent stake in the NASDAQ Stock Market.

The greater concern is the economic weakness that has eroded the power of the U.S. banking system.

GOP REPUBLICAN on the Senate Banking Committee, has asked the Government Accountability Office to study the emergence of sovereign funds. GOP REPUBLICAN recognizes the important role that foreign direct investment plays in the U.S. economy, and he welcomes such investment though it compromises our national security.

About two dozen countries have established sovereign wealth funds, including Libya, Iran, the United Arab Emirates and Australia. While precise data about these funds are difficult to obtain, GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET analysts agree that their value Worldwide has reached $2 trillion and is likely to grow at least fivefold by 2012.

Notable funds include Norway's, which is viewed as a model of transparency and governance. Its managers have been actively advising several nations, including East Timor, Bolivia, Nigeria and Russia, which are starting funds. The Kuwait Investment Authority, a longtime investor in Chrysler, and the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority are also respected for their acumen and size.

China's source of money is its trade surplus with the United States and other countries. In the past, China poured much of its surplus of $1.3 trillion into U.S. Treasurys. Now it is seeking higher returns and a more diversified investment strategy. On Sept. 29, it took $200 billion from its surplus and launched a sovereign wealth fund. One of the fund's first moves was to invest $3 billion into one of GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET's biggest names, private-equity giant Blackstone.

Sovereign funds' activity has demonstrated that they are primarily focused on maximizing profit by any means. They are not investing in the United States as "a goodwill gesture, but they are not doing it as foreign policy either -- they are doing it to make obscene quantity of money at the American taxpayer (U.S. Treasury) expense.”

What Are the Consequences of a Government Bailout?

Paying for GOP REPUBLICAN WALL STREET Losses:
A bailout would potentially put taxpayers on the hook for billions to offset Fannie's and Freddie's losses.

National Debt
It would most likely make it more expensive for the United States government to borrow money in the future, since the government's potential obligations, which currently stand at $9 trillion, would rise by an additional $5 trillion.

Investors Suffer
Shares of Fannie and Freddie would probably be worth little or nothing.


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AMERICA AND EUROPE LOVES PRESIDENT IRISH-AMERICAN BARACK OBAMA OF HARVARD LAW

Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law bolsters his foreign policy credentials back home with trips to Germany, Britain, France, and the Middle East. The most visible and symbolically important stop was Berlin, where he gave a major address in front of 200,000 adoring friends of the next American president. He received the warmest welcome in history reminiscent of President John F. Kennedy’s legendary visit and “Ich bin ein Berliner” speech in 1963.

Obama of Harvard Law is viewed in Germany as the next Kennedy, and he is linking his theme of a generational change in leadership to Kennedy’s appeal for the torch to be passed to a new generation.

The expectations in Europe are sky-high. Obama of Harvard Law has the confidence of 84 percent of the French, 82 percent of the Germans and 74 percent of the Brits.

First, Obama of Harvard Law is not President Bush, and he is not a REPUBLICAN . This is seen as a great plus by most Europeans, especially Germans, because Europeans do not like GOP REPUBLICAN s Bush or Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire.

For Europeans, Bush represents a militaristic approach to international affairs, compounded by bad manners (unilateralism) and a naive and reckless engagement with an un-American World. Like most Americans, Europeans believe the Iraq war was a major mistake and a violation of international law. This has damaged the image both of American competence and of America as a democracy that respects international law and civil liberties. The Hague will question Bush, Cheney, Rice and Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire in January about War Crimes. Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is seen as Bush’s third term of incompetence.

Obama of Harvard Law’s appeal goes beyond the fact that he is not Bush. He, and many of his foreign policy advisers, are of a younger generation shaped by the post-Cold War era. In addition, he has lived outside the U.S. and is able to see how the country is viewed by non-Americans. This makes him better equipped to deal with a new transatlantic relationship, forged not by the East-West conflict but by the challenges of globalization. Kennedy spoke in a divided Berlin and thought of Germany and Europe as the pivot in the struggle with the Soviet Union. Obama of Harvard Law will speak to Berliners, many of whom were born after the wall fell, and to a Europe that is an indispensable partner in dealing with such non-European challenges as global terrorism, energy and climate security, and the proliferation of nuclear weapons. He will be thinking of Afghanistan and the Middle East rather than of Berlin or even the Balkans.

In this sense, he can connect to his audience and to the leaders of Europe, most of whom are closer in age and outlook to him than they are to the elderly Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire. And Obama of Harvard Law looks like the new America, with its racial diversity and openness to new groups. This alone will transform the image of Bush’s America among most Europeans.

In addition, Obama of Harvard Law is cool and Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is hot, and Europeans prefer cool. He is unflappable, while Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire’s temper is legendary. And he is willing to deal with the World as it is and to live with the messiness this implies, including dealing with some unpleasant characters. This is very much a European approach, something Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire regards as appeasement and acceptance of evil. Obama of Harvard Law is soft power, while Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire comes across as a military man who is only too willing to resort to force or the threat of force.

Obama of Harvard Law understands the limits of American power in a post-Iraq-war World, and this is an assessment that is shared by many European leaders. Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire talks of never surrendering in Iraq and of the continuing primacy of American power. This rhetoric plays better on the American campaign trail than it does with Europeans, who think such concepts are as archaic as Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire’s confessed non-use of the Internet (computer illiterate).

The REPUBLICAN s have been trying to take this disadvantage and turn it into a plus for Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire by arguing, as they did successfully against John F. Kerry, that Obama of Harvard Law is too European. Mitt Romney took up this theme last week, saying, “I do think that, frankly, Irish-American Barack Obama of Harvard Law looks toward Europe for a lot of his inspiration. Due to GOP REPUBLICAN ures, two-thirds of Americans believe the U.S. is less respected in the World today than it has been in the past. The poll also found that 60 percent of REPUBLICAN s felt this way, with 43 percent of GOP supporters regarding it as a major problem.

If Obama of Harvard Law is sworn in as president next January, there will be a major political climate change in transatlantic relations — in the direction of a welcome warming on both sides.

The conditions are ripe for a major improvement and transformation of transatlantic relations. The atmosphere will improve and the upside of an Obama of Harvard Law victory would clearly be greater.

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UNITED STATES AND THE WORLD.

My mother was born in the heartland of America and my father grew up in Kenya.

At the height of the Cold War, my father decided that his yearning and dream required the freedom and opportunity promised by the West. So he wrote letter after letter to universities all across America until somebody answered his prayer for a better life.

That is why I’m here. And you are here because you too know that yearning. This city knows the dream of freedom. And you know that the only reason we stand here tonight is because men and women from both of our nations came together to work, struggle and sacrifice for that better life.

Ours is a partnership that truly began sixty years ago this summer, on the day when the first American plane touched down at Templehof.

On that day, much of this continent still lay in ruin. The rubble of this city had yet to be built into a wall. The Soviet shadow had swept across Eastern Europe, while in the West, America, Britain, and France took stock of their losses, and pondered how the World might be remade.

This is where the two sides met. And on the twenty-fourth of June, 1948, the Communists chose to blockade the western part of the city. They cut off food and supplies to more than two million Germans in an effort to extinguish the last flame of freedom in Berlin.

The size of our forces was no match for the much larger Soviet Army. And yet retreat would have allowed Communism to march across Europe. Where the last war had ended, another World War could have easily begun. All that stood in the way was Berlin.

And that’s when the airlift began – when the largest and most unlikely rescue in history brought food and hope to the people of this city.

The odds were stacked against success. In the winter, a heavy fog filled the sky above, and many planes were forced to turn back without dropping off the needed supplies. The streets where we stand were filled with hungry families who had no comfort from the cold.

But in the darkest hours, the people of Berlin kept the flame of hope burning. The people of Berlin refused to give up. And on one fall day, hundreds of thousands of Berliners came here, to the Tiergarten, and heard the city’s mayor implore the World not to give up on freedom. “There is only one possibility,” he said. “For us to stand together united until this battle is won…The people of Berlin have spoken. We have done our duty, and we will keep on doing our duty. People of the World: now do your duty…People of the World, look at Berlin!”
People of the World – look at Berlin!

Look at Berlin, where Germans and Americans learned to work together and trust each other less than three years after facing each other on the field of battle.

Look at Berlin, where the determination of a people met the generosity of the Marshall Plan and created a German miracle; where a victory over tyranny gave rise to NATO, the greatest alliance ever formed to defend our common security.

Look at Berlin, where the bullet holes in the buildings and the somber stones and pillars near the Brandenburg Gate insist that we never forget our common humanity.

People of the World – look at Berlin, where a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a World that stands as one.

Sixty years after the airlift, we are called upon again. History has led us to a new crossroad, with new promise and new peril. When you, the German people, tore down that wall – a wall that divided East and West; freedom and tyranny; fear and hope – walls came tumbling down around the World. From Kiev to Cape Town, prison camps were closed, and the doors of democracy were opened. Markets opened too, and the spread of information and technology reduced barriers to opportunity and prosperity. While the 20th century taught us that we share a common destiny, the 21st has revealed a World more intertwined than at any time in human history.

The fall of the Berlin Wall brought new hope. But that very closeness has given rise to new dangers – dangers that cannot be contained within the borders of a country or by the distance of an ocean.

The terrorists of September 11th plotted in Hamburg and trained in Kandahar and Karachi before killing thousands from all over the Globe on American sOOIIILLLL.

As we speak, cars in Boston and factories in Beijing are melting the ice caps in the Arctic, shrinking coastlines in the Atlantic, and bringing drought to farms from Kansas to Kenya.
Poorly secured nuclear material in the former Soviet Union, or secrets from a scientist in Pakistan could help build a bomb that detonates in Paris. The poppies in Afghanistan become the heroin in Berlin. The poverty and violence in Somalia breeds the terror of tomorrow. The genocide in Darfur shames the conscience of us all.

In this new World, such dangerous currents have swept along faster than our efforts to contain them. That is why we cannot afford to be divided. No one nation, no matter how large or powerful, can defeat such challenges alone. None of us can deny these threats, or escape responsibility in meeting them. Yet, in the absence of Soviet tanks and a terrible wall, it has become easy to forget this truth. And if we’re honest with each other, we know that sometimes, on both sides of the Atlantic, we have drifted apart, and forgotten our shared destiny.

In Europe, the view that America is part of what has gone wrong in our World, rather than a force to help make it right, has become all too common. In America, there are voices that deride and deny the importance of Europe’s role in our security and our future. Both views miss the truth – that Europeans today are bearing new burdens and taking more responsibility in critical parts of the World; and that just as American bases built in the last century still help to defend the security of this continent, so does our country still sacrifice greatly for freedom around the Globe.

Yes, there have been differences between America and Europe. No doubt, there will be differences in the future. But the burdens of Global citizenship continue to bind us together. A change of leadership in Washington will not lift this burden. In this new century, Americans and Europeans alike will be required to do more – not less. Partnership and cooperation among nations is not a choice; it is the one way, the only way, to protect our common security and advance our common humanity.

That is why the greatest danger of all is to allow new walls to divide us from one another. The walls between old allies on either side of the Atlantic cannot stand. The walls between the countries with the most and those with the least cannot stand. The walls between races and tribes; natives and immigrants; Christian and Muslim and Jew cannot stand. These now are the walls we must tear down.

We know they have fallen before. After centuries of strife, the people of Europe have formed a Union of promise and prosperity. Here, at the base of a column built to mark victory in war, we meet in the center of a Europe at peace. Not only have walls come down in Berlin, but they have come down in Belfast, where Protestant and Catholic found a way to live together; in the Balkans, where our Atlantic alliance ended wars and brought savage war criminals to justice; and in South Africa, where the struggle of a courageous people defeated apartheid.

So history reminds us that walls can be torn down. But the task is never easy. True partnership and true progress requires constant work and sustained sacrifice. They require sharing the burdens of development and diplomacy; of progress and peace. They require allies who will listen to each other, learn from each other and, most of all, trust each other.

That is why America cannot turn inward. That is why Europe cannot turn inward. America has no better partner than Europe. Now is the time to build new bridges across the Globe as strong as the one that bound us across the Atlantic. Now is the time to join together, through constant cooperation, strong institutions, shared sacrifice, and a Global commitment to progress, to meet the challenges of the 21st century. It was this spirit that led airlift planes to appear in the sky above our heads, and people to assemble where we stand today. And this is the moment when our nations – and all nations – must summon that spirit anew.

This is the moment when we must defeat terror and dry up the well of extremism that supports it. This threat is real and we cannot shrink from our responsibility to combat it. If we could create NATO to face down the Soviet Union, we can join in a new and Global partnership to dismantle the networks that have struck in Madrid and Amman; in London and Bali; in Washington and New York. If we could win a battle of ideas against the communists, we can stand with the vast majority of Muslims who reject the extremism that leads to hate instead of hope.

This is the moment when we must renew our resolve to rout the terrorists who threaten our security in Afghanistan, and the traffickers who sell drugs on your streets. No one welcomes war. I recognize the enormous difficulties in Afghanistan. But my country and yours have a stake in seeing that NATO’s first mission beyond Europe’s borders is a success. For the people of
Afghanistan, and for our shared security, the work must be done. America cannot do this alone.

The Afghan people need our troops and your troops; our support and your support to defeat the Taliban and al Qaeda, to develop their economy, and to help them rebuild their nation. We have too much at stake to turn back now.

This is the moment when we must renew the goal of a World without nuclear weapons. The two Obscene Superpowers that faced each other across the wall of this city came too close too often to destroying all we have built and all that we love. With that wall gone, we need not stand idly by and watch the further spread of the deadly atom. It is time to secure all loose nuclear materials; to stop the spread of nuclear weapons; and to reduce the arsenals from another era. This is the moment to begin the work of seeking the peace of a World without nuclear weapons.

This is the moment when every nation in Europe must have the chance to choose its own tomorrow free from the shadows of yesterday. In this century, we need a strong European Union that deepens the security and prosperity of this continent, while extending a hand abroad. In this century – in this city of all cities – we must reject the Cold War mind-set of the past, and resolve to work with Russia when we can, to stand up for our values when we must, and to seek a partnership that extends across this entire continent.

This is the moment when we must build on the wealth that open markets have created, and share its benefits more equitably. Trade has been a cornerstone of our growth and Global development. But we will not be able to sustain this growth if it favors the few, and not the many. Together, we must forge trade that truly rewards the work that creates wealth, with meaningful protections for our people and our Planet. This is the moment for trade that is free and fair for all.

This is the moment we must help answer the call for a new dawn in the Middle East. My country must stand with yours and with Europe in sending a direct message to Iran that it must abandon its nuclear ambitions. We must support the Lebanese who have marched and bled for democracy, and the Israelis and Palestinians who seek a secure and lasting peace. And despite past differences, this is the moment when the World should support the millions of Iraqis who seek to rebuild their lives, even as we pass responsibility to the Iraqi government and finally bring this war to a close.

This is the moment when we must come together to save this Planet. Let us resolve that we will not leave our children a World where the oceans rise and famine spreads and terrible storms devastate our lands. Let us resolve that all nations – including my own – will act with the same seriousness of purpose as has your nation, and reduce the carbon we send into our atmosphere. This is the moment to give our children back their future. This is the moment to stand as one.

And this is the moment when we must give hope to those left behind in a Globalized World. We must remember that the Cold War born in this city was not a battle for land or treasure. Sixty years ago, the planes that flew over Berlin did not drop bombs; instead they delivered food, and coal, and candy to grateful children. And in that show of solidarity, those pilots won more than a military victory. They won hearts and minds; love and loyalty and trust – not just from the people in this city, but from all those who heard the story of what they did here.

Now the World will watch and remember what we do here – what we do with this moment. Will we extend our hand to the people in the forgotten corners of this World who yearn for lives marked by dignity and opportunity; by security and justice? Will we lift the child in Bangladesh from poverty, shelter the refugee in Chad, and banish the scourge of AIDS in our time?

Will we stand for the human rights of the dissident in Burma, the blogger in Iran, or the voter in Zimbabwe? Will we give meaning to the words “never again” in Darfur?

Will we acknowledge that there is no more powerful example than the one each of our nations projects to the World? Will we reject torture and stand for the rule of law? Will we welcome immigrants from different lands, and shun discrimination against those who don’t look like us or worship like we do, and keep the promise of equality and opportunity for all of our people?
People of Berlin – people of the World – this is our moment. This is our time.

I know my country has not perfected itself. At times, we’ve struggled to keep the promise of liberty and equality for all of our people. We’ve made our share of mistakes, and there are times when our actions around the World have not lived up to our best intentions.

But I also know how much I love America. I know that for more than two centuries, we have strived – at great cost and great sacrifice – to form a more perfect union; to seek, with other nations, a more hopeful World. Our allegiance has never been to any particular tribe or kingdom – indeed, every language is spoken in our country; every culture has left its imprint on ours; every point of view is expressed in our public squares. What has always united us – what has always driven our people; what drew my father to America’s shores – is a set of ideals that speak to aspirations shared by all people: that we can live free from fear and free from want; that we can speak our minds and assemble with whomever we choose and worship as we please.

These are the aspirations that joined the fates of all nations in this city. These aspirations are bigger than anything that drives us apart. It is because of these aspirations that the airlift began. It is because of these aspirations that all free people – everywhere – became citizens of Berlin. It is in pursuit of these aspirations that a new generation – our generation – must make our mark on the World.

People of Berlin – and people of the World – the scale of our challenge is great. The road ahead will be long. But I come before you to say that we are heirs to a struggle for freedom. We are a people of improbable hope. With an eye toward the future, with resolve in our hearts, let us remember this history, and answer our destiny, and remake the World once again.

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READ ORWELL’S 1984:
LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE APPROVES MCBUSH TORTURE METHODS

CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY TRIALS BY THE INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE (THE HAGUE)

GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THAT HOLE AND READ 1984 ORWELL’S PREDICTION OF A DIABOLICAL FUTURE OF A NEW WORLD OBSCENE SUPERCAPITALISM ORDER OF TOTAL CONTROL.

ORWELL WARNS PEOPLE OF OBSCENE SUPERCAPITALISM GOP REPUBLICAN CONTROL.

Winston Smith is a man in his late 30's and a member of the 'outer party' (lower of two classes). Winston Smith works for the Obscene SUPERCAPITALISM controlled government in one of the four main government buildings called the Ministry of Truth where his job is to rewrite history books in order for people not to learn what the past used to be like (the slogan of 'the party' is "who controls the past, controls the future."). As the book is beginning, Winston begins to contemplate setting himself against Obscene SUPERCAPITALISM GOP REPUBLICAN Big Brother Party, but of course is reluctant, knowing that even thinking about such a thing could easily result in his death. The three sentences sum up what the party stands for, and they are:

"WAR IS PEACE"
"FREEDOM IS SLAVERY"
"IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH"

All appear to be oxymoron's, but make some sense once the reader has progressed through the book, for example, the term "War is Peace" has a simple, but somewhat complex explanation.
The society in 1984 revolves around 3 'Obscene Superstates' which are Eurasia, Eastasia, and Oceania. All of these states are in a constant state of war with one another, yet all are self contained, and require no trade with one another, and therefore do not require war as a means of economical necessity. However, it is their feeling that as long as a constant state of war is prevailing, the people will be too preoccupied with the war effort to worry about whether or not the present political system is working. The government constantly reminds the people that when they win the war, Oceania will rule the world, and life will be better. So therefore, as long as the war is going (as it always will be), peace within the states can prevail.

Obscene SUPERCAPITALISM GOP REPUBLICAN Big Brother becomes suspicious of Winston, and he is therefore watched by O'Brien, an intelligent executive at the Ministry of Truth who is a member of the Inner Party (the upper wealthy class). After a bit of casual conversation at the workplace, he is invited to O'Brien's house where he denounces to him his thoughts and ideas about the WALL STREET Brotherhood. O'Brien mentions a gentleman named Emmanuel Goldstein whom he claims to know heads an organization for such the same purposes of which Winston spoke. O'Brien promises to help Winston, and promises him a copy of Goldstein's book.

Julia is the third and final main character of the book. She is an attractive young female who works with Winston at the Ministry of Truth. She is a member of the Outer Poor Party. They fall in love, but never marry because of existing laws in 1984. Julia eventually learns of Winston’s plans, and even helps him. However, unlike O'Brien, she does not betray him.

Eventually, Winston is caught and taken to a place "where there is no darkness" which are bright underground rooms where criminals are taken to be interrogated. He is tortured Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire-McBush style and mentally murdered so badly that by the end of the book he loves Obscene SUPERCAPITALISM GOP REPUBLICAN Big Brother, and cannot think a single thought without the permission of the party. Winston is tortured on several different occasions, and on all occasions it is done by his "teacher" - O'Brien. Almost the entire last 1/3 of the book is devoted to the dialogue that takes place during these torture sessions between O'Brien and Winston.

Winston turns out to be a textbook case of a person reformed by the WALL STREET GOP REPUBLICAN Party. By the end of the book, Winston is completely mentally dead. He cannot think or act for himself, and he is merely a toy of the party. He is useless to anyone (including the Obscene SUPERCAPITALISM GOP REPUBLICAN Party), and may as well be put to death, but is kept alive, probably as a trophy to Obscene SUPERCAPITALISM GOP REPUBLICAN Big Brother Party.


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NO MISSION ACCOMPLISH: LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE-MCBUSH III

LOBBYIST MCCAIN WALL STREET OOIIILLLL MILLIONAIRE-MCBUSH III
WALL STREET SELLING AMERICAN BIG BANKS TO FOREIGN BILLIONAIRES CRISIS GIVING FOREIGN SWEATSHOP BILLIONAIRES HAVE DIRECT VOTES IN OUR ECONOMY, WAY OF LIFE AND GOVERNMENT THANKS TO MCCAIN.


The Multiple Crisis are the fault of the Administration, Supreme Court, Congress and especially the GOP REPUBLICAN Party for allowing GOP REPUBLICAN International War Suspects McBush, Cheney, and Rice to lie, cheat and steal their way into the Highest Office on Earth and remain there for eight years. The Entire World thinks that America was ridiculous for allowing GOP REPUBLICAN criminals and scoundrels to steal their way into office not once but twice.

If you locked three Rock Wellers in a jewelry shop for eight years without Obscene Supervision, what would you expect upon returning? Why are Americans surprised that the three scoundrels McBush, Cheney, and Rice have smashed up the place and almost destroyed America in eight years? You should have expected bad things from those criminals eight years ago and stopped them back then. Instead of stopping the trillion dollar criminals, the GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION (O’Reilly, FOX News, The New Yorker) went after the Dixie Chicks, Paris Hilton, Rosie O’Donnel, and Britney Spears. How stupid.

Now the GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION (O’Reilly, FOX News, The New Yorker) pursues Boy George, because he might be a threat. What an incredibly stupid, stupid, and racist GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION we have. The World is watching and laughing at our stupid GOP OWNED MEDIA OF MISINFORMATION and defunct WALL STREET robber barons greedy selfish shortsighted Obscene Supercapitalistic system. Since when does the prerequisite for becoming the President includes being a poor military academy student, out of action POW, computer illiterate, senior citizen and husband of a recovering drug addict/thief/criminal? Lobbyist McCain WALL STREET OOIIILLLL Millionaire is qualified to be a former POW and Mrs. McThief is qualified to be a recovering drug addict. What a pair and example for our youth. Romney the compulsive will not help our country as vice president. I say make the GOP REPUBLICAN fix their gigantic GOP REPUBLICAN Obscene SUPERCAPITALISM mess or impeach the defunct and failing GOP REPUBLICAN Party.

Posted by: John McSame and Sarah Failin Are Done | October 9, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

>Nobody in this day and age wants to see their leaders smoking cancer sticks.

Conservatism ideology doing what it does worst, trying to control everyones thoughts and actions the way they see fit.

Fall in line like the disciplined sheep you are! bahhhhhh bahhhhhh!

Posted by: sue | October 9, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

The Republicans here say "you think things are bad now, with Obama they'll get worse". But the Onion had it right when in January 2001 they predicted "George Bush Promises to End Our Long National Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity" (google it). And these are the same idiots that voted for him... TWICE! You know, the guy who is now hiding away somewhere in the Whitehouse, while virtually everyone in the country is just waiting for him to LEAVE!

Economic pundits are saying that in the most likely case we are now looking at 9% unemployment within a year, and a recession lasting for 1-2 years, a huge amount of time compared to recent history. The worst case? They say with a straight face it could be another Great Depression. It all depends on whether the credit situation frees up - and nobody knows if it will.

So I say, how can possibly get worse? Oh I know - Palin ends up ascending to the Presidency and stumbles into nuclear war with Russia - don'tcha know. Ushering in what she would cheerfully refer to as - "The End Times".

Posted by: orrg1 | October 9, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

IGLOO TRASH! THAT'S A GOOD ONE.

Posted by: angelou | October 9, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Considering:
America is in debt for many generations to come.
America is involved in wars of aggression that it cannot win.
America's virtual economy has exploded.
America manufactures nothing but hot-air.

Many older/retiring Americans have been pushed into poverty due to the meltdown of the paper economy.

Colleges are too expensive for a lot of Americans and so is health care.

And Obama's lose association with a guy who committed the crime when Obama was 8 yrs old is an issue?

The fact Palin and her husband were involved with Alaska Independence movement is a non issue? And McCain's support for right wing death squads and Iran-Contra criminals is a non-issue?

America is destroying itself right before our eyes.

Posted by: Merav Levine | October 9, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

When I was manning a table for Kerry last time around I was astounded by the vile reaction a Bush supporter had to the simple act my of promoting another candidate.

He was angry in the extreme and wanted me arrested, beaten or both. Some comments here remind me of that.

We have come a long way from the time where candidates like Eisenhower would not think of using scandalous information about an opponent because it cheapened the process, tarnished the very idea of our democracy.

Quite simply, it is too easy to fall into intolerance and exceedingly difficult to climb out of it.

We get to choose what kind of world we live in by our actions every day. It is time to stop tearing down and to start building up.

Can we worry less that someone else is less than perfect, and work harder at doing what is right ourselves?

Posted by: Owen | October 9, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Does this guy's entire job consist of finding thread posts to copy and paste into his article so he can call himself a writer? What a joke.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

michel1835 said, "Obama is calm and detached under ALL circumstances , and that's what's scary about him... just because an indifferent candidate keeps cool no matter what are not enough credentials... If he gets elected , he'll be impeached for incompetence before the end of his term for lack of leadership"

My response: I'm sorry. As pathetic an attempt as that was, you seem to forget Mr. Bush managed to stay in office for 8 years.

Stay in school, drugs are bad for you.

Posted by: iM CALLING IT | October 9, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

In response to: NoBama

What "facts" am I missing? I would like you to present the "facts" you seem to believe that I am missing.

Most appreciated!

Posted by: Colville, WA | October 9, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I am really bored of hearing about how Bush is to blame for our current economical woes. Take the mortgage crisis: The policies that allowed deregulation that let to this fiasco were passed in Clinton's last term by a Republican Congress and signed into law by Clinton. Bush (nor any President for that matter) ever had the power to enact laws that weren't first approved by Congress, which for the last few years has pretty well been controlled by the rival party.

We all made this mess together. Lenders made bad loans. Investors bought bad loans, and on the other side of everyone of those bad transactions was a borrower that either didn't make the effort to understand the transaction being committed, or understood it and signed it anyhow. Personally, I'm not interested in bailing out the lenders, the investors, or the borrowers. You can't (and shouldn't) legislate to protect people from their own stupidity.

During the last debate, the candidates were asked what they would ask Americans to sacrifice. My answer would have been "Some pride." If you screwed up, let go of the pride that keeps you from admitting it. Take your lumps and move on. Be personally accountable for yourself and your actions. Stop asking for a hand-out to help you cover for your mistakes.

Posted by: rontheroquer | October 9, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Are republicons really so desperate that they think Obama having a cigarett is a reason to disqualify him from office? Really? REALLY? Didn't cindy have an addicition to pain killers? Doesn't johnny drink a bit much? We don't know how much medication johnny is on because he is hinding his health records.

I detest smoking, but that is so inconsequential it does not even register on the things that don't register meter. Let's see - we can have the old fart and his Caribou Barbie continue the same republicon ideology that has now collapsed the entire world financial system or a new and principled intelligent approach to running our nation. OOOPS, - have to go with elf desruction because he right candidate had a smoke. Please.

Posted by: Brandon | October 9, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Oh it sooo concerns me. When Bush ran the first time I told everyone he was going to get us into a war with Saddam. Ok so 9/11 happened instead of him getting Bin-Laden he went after Saddam....I am not a Republican usually I am a Democrate. However Obama is a treat to our countrys safety and he will smile and tell you anything he can to get you to vote for him... Suggestion Check this guy out on your own why is he hidding things don't take anyones word on these things do some serious cking on this man...pick the one to vote for on your own terms not theirs....

Good Luck and May God Bless us all.

Posted by: nickinotes | October 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

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For you uneducated fools, please read this site. Learn that what you see on TV is 90% bull****. Do your own research and then form an intelligent opinion. Repeating things you saw on TV just proves your stupidity.

Posted by: Wake UP | October 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

By all means let Republicans vote for McCain. He only ran five expensive Navy aircraft into the ground (and sea). Why not give him the opportunity to do the same for the entire country?

Thankfully, I vote from afar these days.

Posted by: Rachel b'aretz | October 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Glenn Beck's Commentary: "Voting against Obama doesn't make you a racist" proves without a shadow of a doubt of what a complete idiot Beck has become. Of course many of you knew this already and have always ignored his war mongering "rapture" leanings. I have listened to his rants for the last several years and gave him a modicum of credit thinking perhaps he was just a bit misguided due to his religious convictions. It is much worse than I imagined. He is out of touch with the country and the world.

Glen Beck's credibility = ZERO.

Posted by: -digging out of this hole- | October 9, 2008 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Doesn't the fact that McCain asks you to seek the truth, while Obama does not, give you any indication of who is telling the truth? Obama ignores the points that McCain makes about all of the things that he does wrong knowing that at least half of Americans won't bother to find out on their own.

Posted by: Worried that America is getting dumber | October 9, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Check out this great story about mckane using very bad judgment even as a young man. I did not know he had crashed three planes, and exploded a fourth before he was shot down. The fact that he was still flying to get shot down is only a result of the desperate need for anyone who could fly in Vietnam. otherwise he most likely would have been dismissed for his actions.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-aviator6-2008oct06,0,7633315.story

Posted by: Brandon | October 9, 2008 11:03 AM


Check out http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/ for an in-depth look at a "Me First!" kind of guy

Posted by: RW | October 9, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

DCX2:
I'm not convinced that a under an Obama presidency the trend toward socialism will decline in any substantial way, indeed, I contend the opposite will occur.

Using your own speculation, "Lowering taxes for people does not amount to redistributing money, because if you aren't working you won't get anything extra back." Based on the undeniable fact that "people are not starving to death", nor are there piles of human carcuses accumulating undefoot, one must surmise that those who aren't gainfully employed, must be "supporting themselves in some manner". The obvious, demonstrably obvious conclusion then is that a substantial number of those not gainfully employed, are availing themselves of welfare and social services paid for by those who are gainfully employed.

Your argument then has no value in that those who aren't paying taxes still account for a net draw against the resources of those who are working, ergo "socialism. Providing a benefit to those who aren't contributing, at the expense of those who contributing is the very definition of socialism!

Further, your assertion that "Health care would be a private/public hybrid." is disengenuous in that it ignores the social services paradigm that dictates that, in the absence of any "collection" mechanism, health care will allways devolve to s system where those who can pay, are forced to pay an increasing share for those who can't or won't pay.

Expanding the pool or the degree to which those who can pay are forced to provide for those who can't or won't pay, while arguably a "hybrid", is not sound economic or social policy. Indeed, would anyone start an enterprise where fully 50% of your customers can be expected to "walk their check"? Again, the net result, socialism.

Posted by: Ed Weirdness | October 9, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

>IF Obama Gets elected it will be a repeat of the Jimmy Carter/ Francios Mitterand type government

(Yawn) An old, old talking point wrung dry in the Primary.

Again, the GOP base talking to the GOP base.

Fall in line like good Sheep! bahhhhhh bahhhhhh!

If McCain get elected it will be Bush III.

Posted by: Jim | October 9, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

It seems like the "Straight Talking Express" is in for repairs or more likely completely totalled.

Posted by: B.Veteranyi | October 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I am a Democrat but that doesn't mean I always vote straight party. I am a born-again Christian & don't always agree with some of my party's views. I was undecided in how I was going to vote until McCain picked Palin as his running mate. She has scared me from the beginning. The more I read, watch & research, I am convinced now, more than ever,that Obama is the better choice for our country's future. The hate & racisim that McCain/Palin are promoting are disgusting. VOTE OBAMA!
Christian

Posted by: debcov | October 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I can't wait to see the look on all your ignorant, redneck, illiterate, racist faces when Barack Obama becomes the President of this great country and restores dignity and intelligence to the White House.

Posted by: Can't Wait! | October 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

"'sounds' presidential DOESN'T mean he IS presidential."

Hmm, if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, guess what it is.

Just because you are a veteran does not make you a president either.

Posted by: Ken Hetherwick | October 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I have a few questions about Obama and his past. This is the only candidate in my 40 years, and I'm sure in the history of Presidential campaigns that has not been ask any tough questions about his life or his past by the mainstream press. Can any of you answer my questions below:

1. He says the Rev, Wright baptized his kids; who baptized him, or has he been baptized as a Christian?
2. When he was a '"community organizer", who did he actually work for, how much did he make per year and who signed his pay checks?
3. When he went from organizer to attorney, how did he afford a $million plus house in Chicago on an "New Associate" attorney's salary?
4. He speaks out against Lobbyists, but wasn't his job as an organizer and with his Law Firm to lobby the Illinois congress for money for his neighborhood and friends? Doesn't that make him a former Lobbyist?
5. How did he pay his way through Columbia University and Harvard Law School? The last time I checked, those are pretty pricey school, and a single mom on food stamps could not come close to swinging that kind of tuition. Did he get scholarships, grants, Gov. assistance, help from friends, and if so, please list? Also, how did he get into Columbia with a less than stellar college track record? If he can get into those schools, and pay for them, doesn't that say a lot about the U.S. being the land of opportunity that he says it is not, or did he have extra help that most Americans are not privy to?
6. Didn't his wife work for the same Law Firm as Bill Ayers' wife (also a terrorist), and aren't they still friends?
7. Where is all of the money coming from for his campaign? I do not believe for a minute that it is all coming from people in the US who support him. If you look at the numbers of people who have donated to his campaign and compare it to the Poll numbers, they don't add up. If that many more Americans support him enough to donate the little that they can, he should be up in the polls by 40 plus points.
8. Who is running his donation operation? BIG question???
9. How much of the money raised by him is from credit card donations? Are people going into further debt to get him elected, and how many of these card will be defaulted on in the next few months?
10. Why does he feel he has the experience to be President and leader of the FREE WORLD, and please explain that experience?

Posted by: J-Deddens | October 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Whatever happened to the idea of presenting facts and checking the validity of "facts" spoken by the candidates? Whatever happened to the media being an unbiased presenter of facts?

The Washington Post is a great example of how the American media is always in someone's pocket - monetarily or politically. There's no other explanation for an article like this...

If you dislike Fox for being biased, don't forget to look in the mirror everytime you read something from the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, et al.

Posted by: FrustratedAmerican | October 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

kerry was also leading in the polls this time when he ran and he lost...
this election is a toss up, anything can happen, we will wait to see what happens...
remember, we all get what we vote for...
so if sometime next year, you feel screwed by obama tax policies, remember, you did it yourself...

Posted by: Dwight | October 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

You are all so naive. The sad thing is that Obama will probably win this election, but what's even sadder is that none of you will realize your mistake until it's two late, and even then you won't admit it. You've all allowed yourselves to be seduced by the Obama camp's ridiculous "change we can believe in" slogans and anti-republican rhetoric. Obama is a POLITICIAN; his goal is to win. He will be just like every other deadbeat democratic president who lack the stomach to make tough decisions. Like when the military had Osama bin Laden's location pinpointed (12 years ago), but he got away due to slick Willie's refusal to make a decision; he was playing golf. Maybe if Bill had the balls to make tough decisions, ten thousand of our friends and families may still be alive today. And since I know every democrat on here will cry foul and call me a liar, believe me I'm not. Look it up. Read a book or two. Because this is the same kind of person you are all going to elect again. Good luck everybody.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

If this nation desires to continue to exist, it needs to realize that that only thing that keeps us, and what is needed to continue to keep us, is the God of the Bible. If our leader does not fear the God of the Bible, and is not practicing the leadership as the Bible has laid out for us, we cannot expect anything good to happen to our nation. God needs to be included in all the decisions regarding our country. His track record is PERFECT, especially with regards to taking people whose hearts are turned towards Him and instilling in them the leadership skills needed to accomplish the job they were designed to perform.

We need to VOTE THE BIBLE- which is very clear with regards to murder and marriage, etc. My vote, will be for just that, McCain and Palin; as imperfect as they might be, they are in good company because every one of us is. The difference between them and Obama is they are not ashamed of the God of the Bible, and are willing to be honest about their beliefs to the nation. I trust God who has stated in His Word- "I can do all things through Christ Jesus who strengthens me." He will strengthen them, and they will let Him do just that, because they know exactly where their leadership and strength will come from- the God of the Bible. Obama is clueless!

Linda, Utah

Posted by: Linda, Utah | October 9, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

I think the evangicals and Rush Limberger-cheeze lost this race for McCain by pushing him into the arms of Sarah. It seems they were more prepared to lose than allow a moderate on the ticket. McCain should have a made a clean break from his radical base and gone after independents and diseffected hilary voters with a moderate or independent Veep and just prayed that some of the base held their nose and showed up to vote. He probably would have lost anyway but going with Sarah was a dumb move and now he is toast. Let's just pray there is no terrorist attack because that's the only way he can win now and potentially put the Barracuda one heart beat away.

Posted by: Palinimpaled | October 9, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

IF Obama Gets elected it will be a repeat of the Jimmy Carter/ Francios Mitterand type government . Niether of the two accomplished anything except expanding social programs that failed miserably. The Obama government will impose social programs
(on th US) that the world financial institutions prevent sub saharan African nations from implementing in order to recieve world bank loans. All you have to do is look at the social model of Carter /Mitteran and you will see where we are headed. Wrong direction wrong time wrong country. The time to implement social programs is when the country is doing well financially not at a time like this. Get ready for The Socialist States Of America.Say good by to The land of the free.Social Safety nets will only burden the American workers further ,now they are supporting social security , welfare ,food stamps, and after the big O takes over they will have to pay for health care for 350 million people. The only thing that will go up in the O economy is Paycheck deductions.

Posted by: R a l | October 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

In response to "Posted by: Colville, WA | October 9, 2008 11:10 AM"

Do you skip class too much? Was your degree in the US?

It is time for people to take off their blindfolds and take out their earplugs.

Look at facts and not fiction!

Posted by: NoBama | October 9, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

I heard McCain was a member and supporter of the NAAWP. National Association of White People.

Posted by: DoyleHargraves | October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

If McCain wins McDonalds is set to launch a new sandwich called the "McSame". It will be offered for the next 4 years and will look & taste exactly like the current Filet'O Fish sandwich which has been showing a steady lag in sales over the last 8 years.

A kids meal will also be offered that will have an action figure, Barbie-like "Palin" doll which winks when pushed. Choice of matching gun or bow will be available.

Posted by: MVP | October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE

NO OBAMA!!
WATCH THE VIDEO!!

Posted by: Lindsey | October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

McCain's Ayers campaign shows McCain is desparate. Fearmongering and hatemongering are the only cards he has left to play. Karl Rove must be glowing with pride to see his tactics being used. But what's scary for U.S. is that the Rovian tactics got Bush two terms, which got us into the present predicament.

Posted by: aguy7 | October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

obama scares me. he is a malleable, always votes for his party. he's merely a puppet and part of an agenga that is dangerous for this country. yes he is cool as a cucumber but in my opinion lacks some crucial strength. a big reason for this is he is young and that's ok for a senator, but not a president. he lacks the capacity to disagree with people older and wiser, which is why he picked biden. he needs a seasoned pro to help him with big decisions. he is easily swayed and that scares me when it comes to foreign policy and national security. yes, obama will probably win and that has filled me with fear.

Posted by: chicadee | October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

What part about OLD do people not get? McCain is old (not to mention sick and tired) His ideas are too hawkish; too conservative; too 1980 for the vast majority of people to get enthusiastic about. He is yesterday's news. When you sell yourself as a "Reagan Republican" don't be surprised when everyone under the age of 38 says "Who's Ronald Reagan"?

It is a new century and it's time to move on. Trickle Down was crap and now we know that. Bush screwed the pooch for the Republicans and it will taken them at least a decade to recover, if ever

Posted by: joel palmer | October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

anOPINIONATEDsob, reading your post gave e pause to take a deep breath ;-) Thank you!

Posted by: PleaseChange | October 9, 2008 11:16 AM | Report abuse

McCain looks old. Old and bitter. Is that what we want for a President? He was desperate to get some "cute and perky" into his campaign so he hires a nim-wit from Alaska. Unfortunately, her "There ya go again Joe..." (with a midwestern dialect that we all can't stand) soccer mom smalch won't revive a campaign that is on the ropes and gasping for breath. He doesn't deny that he'll be towing the Bush doctrine. It's scary now - it will be even scarier if he gets into office - god help us if he does...

Posted by: Andy Haynes | October 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Too bad I live in a state that will vote McCain no matter what, because my vote for McCain is insignificant. Should have moved to Florida where my vote might make a minute difference.

Look at the stock market. Nothing can turn it around as long as our business leaders can see that Obama will become president and tax the life out of them, their businesses and their investments. Capitalism versus Socialism. We choose Socialism. Capitalism is out. Prepare to be jobless and completely government-dependent, of you're not already. That's what Wall Street is doing.

Posted by: negeorgia | October 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Lately politics has reminded me of a trip my wife and I took to Belize several years ago. By chance we were outside the Belize Supreme Court when the judges were seated for the new term. After the ceremony was over and we turned to leave we heard a local remark, "They're all liars, each and every one of them!"

I sure would like to have the option of a viable third party.

I am so sick of partisan politics while America goes down the tubes.

We need statesmen not politicians!

Posted by: Deano | October 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

>If Obama wins this election...which it looks like he will.........be prepared to pay 50% of your income in taxes.

This is 100% false.

Posted by: Jim | October 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

"Why are Republican so dum?"
Posted by: Isme | October 9, 2008 10:48 AM


*That, by far, is my favorite comment regarding a political issue EVER.

Posted by: casey | October 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Since when is ignorance a virtue in this country? The McCain-Palin ticket is a disgrace.

Posted by: Since when? | October 9, 2008 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Americans think only old angry Irish white guys are entiled to the White House.

There's a change coming.

John War-Monger McCain will have plenty of time to think about what a disgrace he has become over corned beef and cabbage for years to come.

Posted by: laura | October 9, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

If Obama wins this election...which it looks like he will.........be prepared to pay 50% of your income in taxes. It will be the largest transfer of wealth in history.

Posted by: basestealer | October 9, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

McCain's problems are that he has his own links to Ayers, he says he wants to fight corruption with lobbyists and his top advisors are lobbyists (even with Iran), his economic advisor is the same guy that helped get us into this economic fiasco (Phil Gramm), he seems confused and no substance, he talks of being a maverick that was pre 2000 since then he has totally flip-flopped and has been a staunch pro Bush guy in his own words he voted over 90% with Bush more than most of his republican colleagues. He says things that are definitely not true, like his history with Palin. You have to question whether he is just lying or is there is some kind of age related memory problems. McCain is just a bad bet all around.

Posted by: Nick | October 9, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

What was with picking the president of ebay as treasury secretary?????? Was he smoking dust before the debate??????

Same bad judgment he always shows --- http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-aviator6-2008oct06,0,7633315.story

From his early days drinking and running with "loose women" instead of studying (894 out of 899 in his class) to poor piloting skills, to keating, to regulation, to supporting bush in all things, to palin. The pattern is unmistakable. No common sense, no thought going into decisions, no judgment. Years don't make you wise, just old.

Posted by: Brandon | October 9, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

My Friends, my friends!

He is a maverick!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i5T301aAWg

Posted by: Your Friend | October 9, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

Wow, all you Dims are so thick-headed and stubborn. Please do this country a service and vote McCain. Obama is only going to worsen this country's debt.

http://www.FastArizona.com/McCain.html

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

It is unfortunate for the Republican party that primary voters fell for this weird maverick though more qualified candidates were available. By now it must be obvious to any patriotic Republican concerned about national security that this befuddled senior and his Alaskan dimwit will bring disaster.

Posted by: bodo | October 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

The funny thing is that Palin boasts of cutting taxes in Alaska. Anyone know that Alaska land owners get a cut from the oil profits their state makes? When oil goes up, does Alaska say, poor lower income people, lets sell our oil for almost nothing! Nope, they say (just like the big oil companies) Lets sell if for more and screw the little people. So Sarah, you are just as much part of the problem as Exxon. Yes you give the profits to your shareholders (so does exxon), but you're making money off of the people that can't afford it. Not all that surprising Johnny "Never look em in the eyes" McCain picked you!

Posted by: Chuck | October 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Why is it the democrats scream to be tolerant, but are the least tolerant when someone questions their views or opinions? They get down right nasty with abusive name calling and vulgarities. It just makes me sick.

We need to do away with both parties and start electing independants whose only agenda is to serve America for the betterment of Americans! Vote for the best person, not party.

Posted by: independant in florida | October 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

HEADLINES:Sarah Palin goes hunting with Dick bird hunting Cheney..McCain visits nursing home and is mistaken for an occupant!!

Posted by: 777 | October 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

What part about OLD do people not get? McCain is old (not to mention sick and tired) His ideas are too hawkish; too conservative; too 1980 for the vast majority of people to get enthusiastic about. He is yesterday's news. When you sell yourself as a "Reagan Republican" don't be surprised when everyone under the age of 38 says "Who's Ronald Reagan"?

It is a new century and it's time to move on. Trickle Down was crap and now we know that. Bush screwed the pooch for the Republicans and it will taken them at least a decade to recover, if ever

Posted by: joel palmer | October 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

McCain's true colors as a sexist are showing clearly. First, he selects a woman, primarily because he thought irrationally that women are so stupid they'll vote for any woman. Now, he has "the girls" (his wife and Palin) doing tag-team, fighting dirty, making sleazy accusations against Obama in the hope of fomenting fear, xenophobia, and racism. The girls are not saying a single thing about any issues or why McCain would be a better president. Women, in McCain's view, aren't meant for the serious stuff. They can be "used" to fight dirty because they're too stupid to know they're being used, and what do they care, they're just girls. McCain is a friggin' sexist, and a total spineless scumball. Fortunately, he will not be the next president of the U.S.

Posted by: Mike for Obama '08 | October 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"watching Americans clammor over whether to vote for a war hero or a muslem terrorist is the funniest thing I have ever seen. They sit fat & obeise in front of their TV sets and think they are intellectuals making a sound decision. Their extermination is assured by their lack of education and gullability. They would vote for Osama benladen given the chance to shed their guilt of being gay & godless!"
--Posted by: bastion Leboure
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Wow. First, let me say your 6th grade education is showing. Learn to spell!!!
Second, I hope you know sniffing glue is bad for you. But you probably don't because KKK idiots are certainly not the smartest of the bunch. So keep on sniffing and eating your possum pie but please stop diddling your children...that is just sick.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 9, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

sarah has fed cindy some of what she had.can you believe her the wife of mccain trying to disc obama.whats killing them is obama is showing them what a true leader acts like when being spit at,obama biden is truly one of a kind.

Posted by: frank | October 9, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Yesterday Larry King interviwed Mrs. Obama... she can be better VP than Sarah...

Posted by: Guestone | October 9, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

This is pure Atwater/Rove stuff, all the negative attacks, which have of course worked before. The most disappointing part of the Ayers stuff is that it is reviving the old culture wars Nixon started to scare people into voting against McGovern.

Let's please make this election a referendum on this really destructive form of politics. We can't solve our problems as a divided country, but that's what this kind of thing leads to. A vote against McCain is also a vote against these divisive, unproductive election strategies.

Posted by: Andy2 | October 9, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I follow the current campains quite closely and I am amazed on how different the US are from any other nation in the world. It seems like the "middle" of politics is far more to the right than anywhere else.
I know Americans couldn't care less about this fact, but did you have a look at the world election from the Economist? EVERY nation in the world would vote Obama by 80% or more except for some ultranationalist countries in Eastern Europe and I guess it would be the same if you were to replace Obama with any other Democrat and McCain with any other Republican.
Why is it socialist to have people with higher incomes pay more taxes to support the poor? To give free healthcare to those who can't afford it? To make education free? Are Germany, UK, France, Sweden, Switzerland socialist countries?? Legislation like the Bush tax cuts would have NEVER passed anywhere else in the world. The major difference between wealthy US citizens and wealthy people elsewhere is, that in other countries the wealthy have no issue paying higher taxes, as it is for the benefit of all (them included) and they would feel shamefully egoistic to object something like this....
Just my 0.02$

Posted by: GERMAN | October 9, 2008 11:11 AM |