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Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin has been good for news, as we joke in this business. Yesterday she apologized at the end of a
a CNN interview for saying that some parts of the country are the "real America", which means others are not.

Lyndsey Layton's article about this has generated a flurry of comments, more of them from apparent supporters of the Democratic ticket, although Palin has her defenders. Many see her apology ("If that's the way it has come across, I apologize,") as a non-apology. A few see her heralding a return to McCarthyism.

Some apparent McCain supporters pick up on the topic of the week: a McCain campaign allegation that Obama is really a push for European-style socialism. [Ruth Marcus has an excellent column on this issue today.]

Two weeks to go.

We'll start with hopeftomorrow, one of many to express the view that "i have NO idea why is has taken those of us who are liberal and democrats to say "ENOUGH"! with these phoney baloney repubs cheap shots at the patriotism of their fellow americans..."

Palin told CNN "If that's the way it has come across, I apologize." That moved ScottinNC to say, "...This is the only unscripted statement that Gov. Palin has made that I thought I understood... We need some talented linguists to study "Palinese", which is apparently a new dialect..."

silverspring25 said, "well, I am sure someone will buy this - but not me."

But TheAnalyst wrote, "Governor Palin simply spoke the truth. This is not about Democrats vs. Republicans, it is about those extremist Socialist-Liberals that have all but hijacked the Democrat Party. These Socialists are pushing forth with ideologies which go against the very founding principles of this nation...this is now a European vs. American ideological struggle."

hgcsato said, "Wow....a civil war brewing in a country were there are tens of millions of guns in circulation. Bolsheviks vs. Trotskyites of the New American Century.....???"

pressF1 wrote, "...Land of the free, home of the brave, baby. Damn right it still waves... Carhartts or pinstripes, girl, you ain't the only one to ever fall in love with a flag. We forgive you. You do have a few things to learn, though."

jjtwo noted that "...all of us anti-Americans just so happen to be paying the paychecks of Congress, the President and the VP, AND we are the ones on the hook for the bailout of your fat cat friends. Maybe in your eyes I'm anti-American, but you sure see my wallet as red, white and blue."

But rwbiles1 said, "Ease back, you partisans. Your bias for Democrats is clearly showing as it always does. Don't you liberals in the media think you can win this election fairly? No, ten to one hatchet pieces for the libs is not fair."

mightycrows said, "For Mrs Palin to question Barack's patriotism is a bit ironic considering her close links to the Alaskan secessionist movement..."

washpost4 wrote, "...On the bright side, it seems like questioning the patriotism of those you disagree with is finally beginning to be seen as distasteful."

jaho said, "That was not an apology. Apologies do not have the word 'if' in them... an if/then statement is not an apology."

TwoEvils wrote, "McCarthyism coming to ugly life again. Republicans have used the un-American label as a threat for too long. Time to be real Americans and vote them out of office..."

troisieme said, "This kerfuffle shows how far the country has come insofar as susceptibility to Rovianism is concerned. Barack has been right about the Republican smear campaign all along... So they are going after Barack in every possible way - including impugning his patriotism."

elena2, wrote, "It doesn't matter what she says anymore, everyone has already formed their views on her."

We'll close with downinohio, who said, "I am just as disgusted as the next Democrat with the current government, but I'm a little concerned about this frothing at the mouth that both parties seem to be participating in... I'd like to see a president that speaks for all Americans, not just the party he is affiliated with."

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  October 22, 2008; 8:50 AM ET
Categories:  Palin , Presidential Politics  | Tags: Palin  
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Screw you McCain, you and your Republican buddies that supported President Idiot are who got us into this mess. Get out of our way and let us fix it, we seriously do not need you or Caribou Bimbo to help us.

Obama / Biden All the Way!!!

Posted by: Hillary08 | October 24, 2008 10:20 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin is a Post Turtle:

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Texas rancher whose

hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a

conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah

Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.

The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle.'

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a

post turtle was.

The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down a country road

and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's

a post turtle.'

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he

continued to explain. 'You know she didn't get up there by herself,

she doesn't belong up there, she doesn't know what to do while she is

up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb a*s put her up there to

begin with.

Posted by: agapn9 | October 23, 2008 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Don't expect anything like a real apology from the likes of Palin. She is the one who said an ethics report vindicated her, yet the report states:

Page 8, Finding Number One: "I find that Governor Sarah Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act."

That means she broke an ethics law. That means Palin is not telling the truth when she says she was vindicated, just giving a sound bite for Fox News to use.

Her troubles are just beginning and when its all over she will regret accepting the nomination. The investigation in AK has been widened (http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/555288.html) and some people she fired are now bringing complaints based on findings in the ethics report. My guess is after losing on Nov. 4 she will continue to be investigated and be impeached or resign her governorship by next summer. Good thing she can survive on moose meat and can use a gun to protect herself from those crazy Russians she sees from her window.

There is nothing sadder than a clumsy inarticulate megalomaniac but put her in a $150,000 wardrobe and wow does she look great!

Posted by: bevjims1 | October 23, 2008 8:28 AM | Report abuse

zjr78 posts
"Mikey, of course we vote against our own best interest. It's what we're all supposed to do as Americans -- put your country's interests first, ahead of your own. You know: COUNTRY FIRST! Ask not and all that. Quaint, I know."

scrappyc20001, no, I'd say Obama pretty well has the moron vote sewn up.

Posted by: zjr78xva |

Z, It isn't quaint unless you yourself have really investigated the issues and decided a particular candidate speaks to the results you determined for yourself.

However, when people mindlessly chant each new slogan put out by McCain/Palin you have to wonder if any of the Republican faithful do think for themselves.

I never heard "socialism" chanted in an American election until uttered by McCain/Palin. How on God's green earth can McCain/Palin accuse Obama/Biden of socialism after Bush all but nationalized the American financial system? That is European style socialism.

Specifically what issue has Obama/Biden raised that is European style socialism?

And why can't your side ever learn to have a civil discourse without resulting to name calling....it is just pathetic to read and hear.

Posted by: Thatsnuts | October 23, 2008 7:46 AM | Report abuse

She's an intellectual, you know, in the Emperor's new $150,000.00 clothes from Saks and Neiman Marcus.

She just couldn't come right out and say, "I'm sorry I believed my Rovian handlers who told me that you were so stupid you would buy questioning patriotism as a wedge issue."

Posted by: coloradodog | October 23, 2008 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Americans do indeed vote against their own best interests and that is precisely how Republicans find their way into the Oval Office.

Sarah Palin is the perfect candidate for 2008 because she will be the principle reason that the GOP is defeated in a landslide. The caribou Barbie and angry John will go down to a greater defeat than Barry Goldwater experienced in 1960.

Posted by: lavinsr | October 22, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

real sorry.

Posted by: forestbloggod | October 22, 2008 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Mikey, of course we vote against our own best interest. It's what we're all supposed to do as Americans -- put your country's interests first, ahead of your own. You know: COUNTRY FIRST! Ask not and all that. Quaint, I know.

scrappyc20001, no, I'd say Obama pretty well has the moron vote sewn up.

Posted by: zjr78xva | October 22, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Gee, as far as I can determine, Palin is, at heart, just another venal politician. Younger and more attractive, granted. But basically in the great Alaskan tradition of Ted Stevens, Don Young, and Frank Murkowski.

Okay, she appears to be slightly less well-educated than the others. But what do you expect from our underfunded state college system?

Sarah Palin is somebody who sees absolutely no conflict between her surface persona as everyday mom and moose-killer, versus her shopping spree at Neiman Marcus.

If we're dumb enough to elect her, she won't see a conflict between preaching brotherhood and locking up people who disagree with her, either.

Posted by: Samson151 | October 22, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Good thing I know that libs are tolerant and reasonable, 'cause these comments might make me think otherwise!

Anyway, the media double standard matters because it creates a false perception that misleads the gullible (the gullible being a key Obama constituency). Obama has tasked his adjunct campaign embedded in news organizations with propagating this false perception, or Big Lie.

Posted by: zjr78xva | October 22, 2008 3:30 PM
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If gullible as you put it, defines the Obama constituency...Then does Moronic idiocracy define the Mccain Palin supporters or just Sarah Palin or both?

Posted by: scrappyc20001 | October 22, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Back when I was haze gray and underway in some far flung parts of the world and in some places downright dangerous, I wonder where todd and sarah were, scratching each others places and bad mouthing thier country by pandering to seccionst whackos and playing in the back seat. Politics make for strange bed wetters and thats what the mccain/palin team look like to me. Whatever respect I had left for Mccain went down the latrine when he hooked up with this whack job. When you see sarah mr. seccionst todd is right behind her. yeecchh.

Posted by: pogo9304 | October 22, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Good thing I know that libs are tolerant and reasonable, 'cause these comments might make me think otherwise!

Anyway, the media double standard matters because it creates a false perception that misleads the gullible (the gullible being a key Obama constituency). Obama has tasked his adjunct campaign embedded in news organizations with propagating this false perception, or Big Lie.

Posted by: zjr78xva | October 22, 2008 3:30 PM
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Yeah, the gullible are the ones who voted against their own best interest, twice mind you, to elect a moron as our President. They are the, what, 22-23% who still support the idiot President (Cheney)/Administration?

Is talk radio or Faux News liberal? Get your face out of the glue bag and learn how to think for yourself, rather than sucking up talking points as if they are gospel, or even have meaning.

Posted by: michael4 | October 22, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Good thing I know that libs are tolerant and reasonable, 'cause these comments might make me think otherwise!

Anyway, the media double standard matters because it creates a false perception that misleads the gullible (the gullible being a key Obama constituency). Obama has tasked his adjunct campaign embedded in news organizations with propagating this false perception, or Big Lie.

Posted by: zjr78xva | October 22, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

there's no "how it came across" to discuss. it can't be about people with ideas, because they live everywhere. she really meant to say that, for example, northern virginians aren't real Americans. she really meant to say that she has to go on a road trip to visit "pro America" "areas" of America, because she really wants to say that more of her type live in rural small towns than in the cities and the suburbs. it's her message. she just got caught saying it without the requisite disguise and her own people told her she had to back down from that one.

if she had any balls she would just say it's good to be here with all you god fearin' gun totin' flag wavin' white christians 'cause it's us against those commie liberal atheist traitors (and minorities) in the big cities

Posted by: JoeT1 | October 22, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

zjr
I'm pretty sure you are the one no one will ever believe. Or are your comments extreme sarcasm? Palin is "a profile in courage and grace"- it had me laughing bigtime.

Posted by: silverspring25 | October 22, 2008 1:46 PM | Report abuse

So anyone know of local food dishes of Detroit. I found a blog claiming that a Coney is their food delux. But is it fair for a city to claim a food thats name originates from Coney Island.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 22, 2008 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin and John McCain have misunderstood the nature of the populism that has driven candidates as disparate as John Edwards, Hubert Humphrey and even Hillary Clinton at the end of her campaign. None of these populist messages was driven by inciting one ideological group against the other, but it was all about financial disparities. The funny thing is that it's class warfare that's proven popular but McCain trying to do that, as the $100 Million man, friend of the corporate boardrooms, sounds ridiculous. So he mangles the message and has conservatives calling liberals "socialists" and communists (which may or may not be a step up from terrorist and traitor). These rabble rousers are going to rue the day when the wingnuts start taking them more seriously and start shooting something other than bear cubs ...

Posted by: Omyobama | October 22, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

"I'm a little concerned about this frothing at the mouth that both parties seem to be participating in... I'd like to see a president that speaks for all Americans, not just the party he is affiliated with."

I know of no "on the stage" anti-American slur coming from anyone officially associated with an Obama event. McCain/Palin ralies FEATURE people like Robin Hayes and the "my God is bigger" minister.

Posted by: willandjansdad1 | October 22, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

zjr78xva: Biden was talking about historical possibilities, Palin was basically renouncing most of the WaPo readers as Americans. This seems to be the new GOP theme, somehow their voters are "real Americans." Please, even 150K worth lipstick is not enought to cover up that pig.

Posted by: ualec1 | October 22, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes I wonder if just splitting the country up into a bunch of separate nations of independent Ideology again would not be suitable? Give the Religious nuts the south, Classic clintonesqu style conservative dems the Great Lakes area going down the mississippi, the californians california, the Libertarians the midwest and the East Coast Liberals the east Coast. Just do us true liberal leftists greens and naderites a favor and cut out a chunk of Vermont or something so we can be left alone by the rest of you a-holes.

Posted by: alex35332 | October 22, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

maybe the expense of all the clothes,went to her head,and overwhelmed her judgement,or she had a Palin moment,or I dont think I offended pple but if I did i will try not to say it out loud,yeah thats it,i think i got it

Posted by: Mariewest111 | October 22, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

onestring, your post is full of hate and lies, yet you denounce hate and lies.

Doesn't this make you dizzy?

Posted by: zjr78xva | October 22, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

I still would like someone to explain to me the word conception. Most of those who are on either side of the debate about abortion all say that life begins at conception. Could you please enlighten me on what that means?

Is conception when the sperm breaks the egg? Or is it when the cells start to divide? Or is it when the cell division attaches to the uterus? Or is it when the heart muscle is crated?

For we lost a child, not by abortion, but when the fetus started to grow, but somehow broke its bond with the uterus, weeks after we thought is was ok.

So again, what does the word conception mean to those who are staunch believes of pro-life or those even who are for abortion.

Posted by: jrubin1 | October 22, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

This is the REAL Sarah Palin. The intolerant Palin. The Palin that joined the US hating "Alaska First" secessionist political party. She forces rape and incest victims to carry their unwanted pregnancy. She insists upon abstinence inly sex education for our kids when that approach failed spectacularly in her own family. She wants parents to have the ability to remove books from the library they don't like. She has a wack-o wing nut preacher who says criticizing Bush will get you sent to hell.

Sarah Palin is ginning up racial and intolerant hate among the most ignorant of our citizens and the most partisan neo-cons and then says THEY are the REAL America?

Jesus didn't hate, lie, unethically reach out to have private citizens fired, obstruct justice, and then crow about it proudly.

Sarah Palin's behavior is EXACTLY the meaning of UNAMERICAN.

VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN AND SHOW THE WORLD WHAT REAL AMERICANS THINK!

Posted by: onestring | October 22, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Another pseudo "if" apology. If my stupid and wrongheaded comment offended you, I'm sorry. If it didn't, I'm off the hook!

Posted by: bdunn1 | October 22, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Gov. Palin's grace and generosity are self-evident. Yes, she's a straight shooter but in that respect she's a breath of fresh air. The suggestion that there's a malicious bone in her body is patently absurd -- or, rather, a Big Lie.

Posted by: zjr78xva | October 22, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

At what population does a town cross the line from being American to something more sinister?

Posted by: SteveIowa | October 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Another McCain’s female spokeswoman said last week that northern Virginia area is not “real Virginia”. In her words “real Virginia” is more southern part of the Virginia, rural areas and small towns. Again in her words, northern Virginians are D.C. democrats spilled out to Virginia. Out of desperation, McCain’s camp is resorting to any tactics to get more votes, even at the cost of separating the great nation. What a sad story, I used to believe that McCain is patriotic.

Posted by: Mike79 | October 22, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

zjr78xva you are the example of why we are abandoning the republican party in droves these days.

Palin's stupidities and anti-Americanism stands on its own, whether anybody else says things equally stupid or even if the media doesn't report those other stupidities.

Inattention to the crap said by her opponents does not excuse her hatred, and your bringing it up informs us that you care more about some vague sense of unfairness on the part of the media than you do about the evil things being said and done in your name.

I'm not voting for Obama/Biden, not unless I detect there are enough of your kind going to vote for McCain/Palin. You aren't helping your side by excusing her.

Posted by: barfolomew | October 22, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

zjr78xva: What a hypocritical commentary. Palin and MCCain practice the old game of making inappropriate statements and then saying "Ooops, I didn't mean to say that". They know full well that their first comment is the one that registers, not the correction statement. Palin should look to her own conjugal partner and friends when talking about anti-Americanism - not a young black who has fully demonstrated to the people of this country that despite all we're going through the American dream lives on.

Posted by: aredee | October 22, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

The real news from the CNN interview is that Gov. Palin points out the media double standard with respect to Biden's gaffe about Obama being "tested" -- and the interviewer agrees with her, because he could not keep a straight face otherwise.

Gov. Palin has absolutely NOTHING to apologize for. She has been a profile in courage and grace in the teeth of the most vicious attacks -- simply because she answered the call to serve her country.

Anybody remember John Edwards -- less experienced than Gov. Palin -- getting one-tenth the scrutiny when he ran for VP four years ago?

Didn't think so.

Nobody believes the media, and nobody ever will believe the media. It's worse than a joke at this point.

Posted by: zjr78xva | October 22, 2008 12:37 PM | Report abuse

The apology was not proportional to the seriousness of the comment, which was indeed offensive -- especially taken in context with her general campaign rhetoric. Palin has consistently suggested that anyone not on board with her and McCain is part of some suspect, radical segment of the society who has terroristic, socialist, or culturally elitist intentions. It's clearly a divisive strategy, and Palin (and hence others) have undeniably stepped right into the shoes of McCarthy by brazenly attempting to distinguish between the "pro-Americans" and the "un-Americans" or those "not like you and me."

It is truly shameful, and people of any party or political persuasion ought to recognize how unhealthy it is for the country. Thankfully, most people seem to be doing just that.

Posted by: MontaraCA | October 22, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps she will apologize for other comments. I am not holding my breath. Her kind of divisive politics is no change from the last eight years.

Posted by: EarlC | October 22, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I guess my university-educated, high-tech and high-tax paying butt isn't welcomed here in Palin's America any more.

Maybe she and her kind want us to leave? Let's see you low-watt rednecks pay for this country without us.

Posted by: barfolomew | October 22, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Indeed, God's gift to the Democrats and especially to Biden, who now knows the Vice President's presence in the Senate is a place where he can exercise his magical powers and do great things. You betcha! In just a few of her unique sentences Palin managed to moosh the whole Constitution. Obama may as well extend his trip until November 4th. Clearly in his absence his work is being efficiently carried out by the GOP.

Posted by: elizabeth6 | October 22, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Apparently there is no end to the vitriolic rhetoric these trapped and desperate Republicans will use in order to wriggle out of their self induced net. Too little too late for Palin. She is a boil on the backside of the GOP and in two weeks McCain will be joining her there to fester for years to come. Bachman's outbursts hover on the edge of manic and Hayes is a disgraceful piece of work taking up valuable space and oxygen with his stupidity.

Posted by: elizabeth6 | October 22, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

Sarah Palin: the gift to Democrats that just KEEPS ON GIVING!

All the polls now show that Palin is overwhelmingly viewed by voters as the WORST decision of McCain's entire campaign---the supreme example of why McCain can't be trusted in a moment of crisis.

Keep it up, Sarah! You go, girl! If McCain runs out of money, I'm sure that plenty of us Dems will be glad to pay for a few more of those Ayers speeches.

Posted by: andym108 | October 22, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

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