Clinton, Mexico, Immigrants and Narcotics
Some of the best and worst instincts of our Readers Who Comment have come forth this morning in response to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton's statement that U.S. anti-narcotics policies have contributed to the exploding drug violence in Mexico.
Mary Beth Sheridan's story has set off a rousing renewal of the argument about whether marijuana should be legalized; an oft-repeated charge that Democrats always blame ourselves instead of looking at the real culprits; a renewal of rage about illegal immigrants; a call to seal the borders, and concern about attempts for more gun control.
As Sheridan writes, this comes after the Obama administration announced that it is sending hundreds of agents and extra high-tech gear to the border to intercept weapons and drug proceeds heading south.
We'll start with allenridge, who wrote, "Well you can tell the Democrats are running the country again. Blame America first is back and popular again..."
But jeangerard said, "...We are as much to blame for drug problems on the border as "they" are -- maybe more so because we are the buyers that support the business. Causes are known. Answers are evident: Provide more information on dangers of addiction, decriminalize users, make treatment available and provide legal jobs to unemployed young Mexican and American men. Expensive? Cheaper in the long run."
gbooksdc wrote, "With these people, it's always America's fault... So you, the taxpayer, get to pay for Mexico's problems, and the ineffectiveness of the Mexican government and the corruption of the Mexican police. Without any pesky oversight by the Americans footing the bill. That worked real well with financial institutions , didn't it?"
To which bakarik responded, "Are you really so incredibly retarded to argue that America has NOTHING to do with drug smuggling and violence in Mexico? It's our War on Drugs that creates enormous profits for anyone involved in the illegal market it creates. Any sensible person would look at the multitude of parallels to the prohibition era, legalize marijuana and decriminalize the rest..."
Ali4 wrote, "As long as the Secretary is making mea culpas on behalf of the U.S., how about recognizing that the U.S. is contributing to Mexico's drug problem by failing to enforce our immigration laws? Isn't it a little unreasonable to expect to be able to stop the flow of guns over the border FROM the U.S. to Mexico when we (and Mexico) have refused to stop the illegal flow of PEOPLE over the border from Mexico to the U.S..."
e-celt asked, "Why does taking "a hard look at what we can do" not include de-criminalizing some of the drugs causing the problem? Certainly marijuana could be legalized with many beneficial consequences (reduced violence, less prison overcrowding, unclogged courts)... if another country were inducing in the US the level of violence that our drug policies are creating in Mexico, we would invade."
srb2 wrote, "I believe it's true that we should decriminalize recreational drugs in order to remove the biggest part of the profit motive and in doing so remove the biggest part of the propensity for violence. On the other hand, blaming the U.S. for its collective drug habit ...is like blaming a bank for violence because greedy people will commit violent crimes to get the money which is in the bank."
zippyspeed said, "Of course Clinton blames America. She's a Democrat. But I note that she's very careful not to actually blame the American drug users themselves. Not only are they "victims" in her political view, but they're almost all Democrat voters. Each hand washes the other."
cgillard wrote, "War is a failed paradigm to solve the world's problems... If we can't learn to live with our ancient instincts and our conceptual rationalizations in a more humane, empathetic, and compassionate way we are going to be the cause of our own extinction..."
woodg wrote, "...Letting all these illegals into our country in the first place was our BIG mistake. They have set up their business right her under our noses and in our national forests! Secure our borders, deport anyone caught committing a crime and QUIT trying to pay our way out of a problem..."
And barbiek1 complained that "when the most protected group in the united staes is illegals who cant be arrested, etc What do you expect???? We see more gangs and there is nothing stopping them"
Utahreb said, "...So Clinton, Napolitano, Holder and President Obama are going to Mexico City. Big whoopee. Why not have them live in a border town on the U.S. side for 3-4 months and see the situation for what it really is - an invasion of our country by illegals and drug cartels?... We don't owe Mexico one darned thing... Use that money to protect our own country by sealing the border completely..."
secretscribe wrote, "Strict liability for possession or sales of guns would radically reduce the quantity of smuggled arms moving into Mexico from the US."
sailorlady said, "Until we curtail the demand for drugs in the US, or legalize the less dangerous, this sort of situation will continue... Whether it's the Bible Thumpers, or misguided ignorant masses who are so resistant to this option, something must be done about the huge market for drugs in the US..."
lennyjazz wrote, "It doesn't occur to our pinheads in government that prohibition doesn't work. The Feds used to shoot people for brewing beer. Now they shoot them for growing flowers that people like to smoke. What a bunch of nuts we have leading this country."
rjjrdq said, "No mention of a fence. This is just part of the amnesty preamble tour."
waterfrontproperty wrote, "It's bad enough that the U.S. gets blamed (rightfully so) for its appetite for drugs and our inability to seal our borders, but do we really have to take the blame for Mexico's inability to seal its borders?"
bullgooselooney said, "What we need is a national referendum on the legalization of marijuana, the outcome of which should be determined by popular vote. Nothing is ever going to change on this matter if we look to our elected officials to take the initiative and introduce legislation. Let the people speak."
We'll close with brux1, who wrote, "... the real problem is the Americans' inability to learn from others. The Brits have a nice expression for this kind of people: Pompous twits."
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