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Can Pelosi Deliver on Health?

As the health care debate rages on Capitol Hill, it also rages among our Readers Who Comment, who are as fully engaged in this subject as they were on the presidential election or the war in Iraq. Today's chapter finds House Speaker Nancy Pelosi promising that she can deliver a House vote for reform. Readers find that positive or alarming, and in many cases aregue more about Pelosi, who tends to be a lightning rod, than the legislation itself.

Three House committees have roles and differences in the legislation, but Shailagh Murray and Paul Kane write that "Democratic leaders are newly confident that these differences can be resolved..."

Many readers want a public option or a single payer plan to compete or eliminate the influence of insurance companies; they complain about illegals receiving health care, they rail against insurers' profits, they worry that government involvement means socialism, and they debate whether employer-paid insurance is slowing disappearing. And there's concern that well-insured Democrats who voted for President Obama aren't really all this keen for change.

We'll start with MPatalinjug, who wrote, "Speaker Nancy Pelosi must know whereof she speaks. If she now vows passage of the Obama Universal Health Care Reform initative, she must be sure that she can make those diffident "Blue Dog" Democrats overcome their fears and toe the line... And the Congress need not be reminded that the present health care system, besides not covering some 50 million Americans, is financially unsustainable. Sooner rather than later it is bound to collapse of its own weight."

But mr986 wonders "...if the Dems had even considered the possibility that some of their Kool-aid drinkers might say no thanks to the prospect to Obama actually implementing some of the things he ran on during his campaign. I suspect this administration is going to find out very shortly that while his supporters may be with him philosophically, there will be a parting [of the] ways if they are asked to fork over too much of their earnings."

weidenhof4 added, "Mrs. Pelosi promises the House will pass Health Care legislation. She has the numbers, but the greed of her party prevents passage."

hill_marty asked, "Why do Pelosi and the liberals believe that such complex legislation needs to be rushed through Congress? There is only one possible answer: The more people know about this plan, the less likely they are to vote for it. Pelosi's vow is simply reaffirming that she wants to ram this down our throats..."

tsapp77 said, "... California is precariously close to insolvency because it over extended itself by providing social program benefits to illegals. Now [Pelosi] is proposing this same disaster for the U.S. We are doomed if she doesn't go back to San Francisco."

But anitapreer wrote, "So many loonies on tis site. Illegal immigrants will not covered! Pelosi said this on CNN today. With new restrictions on insurance, no one can be turned away for a pre-existing condition, they cannot refuse to pay when a person gets sick, they cannot charge more for women than for men... It is a good bill. It needs some more work. But more good than bad in this bill, believe me. do your research."

binckeslaw said, "...Unfortunately the disappearance of employer paid healthcare is as inevitable as the elimination of employer provided pensions... It's going to continue to happen with or without current healthcare reform. It's now more important than ever for American workers to establish a fall back option...Single payer or a strong affordable public option now with tax credits equaling 100% of the cost for participation for everyone who purchases it..."

About which veritas7 wrote, "...Nothing like injecting fear into the equation. Some emplyers will, may, could take away the health care benefit from their package. Just because there has been an increase in employees contributions to pay for their insurance doesn't mean that the trend will continue... No basis for your position other than pure conjecture."

fwc01 asked, "Where in the plan is "personal responsibility." If you want to be obese, do drugs, smoke, abuse alcohol, not practice preventive care, not take your meds, avoid exercise, etc., you should pay more. Ask a doctor if these are adding to our health care costs. If yes, why shouldn't we pay more for coverage if we do these things."

RealTexan1 wrote, "NO to ANY Healthcare Reform Bill that does not have tort reform. What this Democrat bill would mean is that you pay more to wait in line behind another person who would not be there without you forking out his or her expenses out of your own pocket. And all the while, lawyers continue to sue doctors out of business."

sashab1 said, "Congress should remember that the American consumer is sick and tired of the deplorable state of health care in this country. We want reform sooner rather than later. Quit whining and pass health care reform with a good public option."

oldguy1 wrote, "the problem is we have "THREE house panels with jurisdiction over healthcare." None of which will willingly give up any power. this struggle to pass healthcare reform has nothing to do with healthcare reform....I doubt anything will get accomplished until we vote out the incumbent and start anew."

linda_521 said, "If you cut back on the outrageous profits to the insurance/health care industry; you have money for the uninsured. If you don't put forth, a government plan option; just go home. It is a waste of time."

postfan1 wrote, "Why does all the Post coverage about this focus on the politics, and not on what's included in the bills? We need reform that works for all of us. NOT just 47 million people who don't currently have insurance...Pelosi wants blind followers. But she's thinking only of politics, not of a solution that improves health care for all Americans."

We'll close with john88, who said, "At this point in time I think that reading the bill is more important than passing it. We should all contact our representatives and provide encouragement and support for them actually reading the bill before they vote on it."

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  July 27, 2009; 7:33 AM ET
 | Tags: Health-Care Reform, Pelosi  
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reading letters from right wing folks,
it should be evident that they are still
suffering from the major butt kick of last
November. They are concentrating on trying to damage the administration if only to improve their chances of taking control
for their rich backers.

Posted by: glolou316 | July 27, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Would Pelosi's botox injections be covered under the new health care. We have to get our priorities right.

Posted by: Bubbette1 | July 27, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

MEDICARE costs 450 BILLION PER YEAR...MEDICAID costs 360 BILLION PER YEAR...and the FRAUD RATE is OVER 18%..A DATABASE WOULD ELIMINATE FRAUD

Posted by: buzzm1 | July 27, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Let's Do HealthCare RIGHT:

#3. Design an entitlement elgibility database to ELIMINATE THE $140 BILLION DOLLARS IN ANNUAL FRAUD FROM MEDICARE, AND MEDICAID, and another $200 BILLION DOLLARS IN FRAUD from other entitlement programs.

Posted by: buzzm1 | July 27, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Jack Smith — Working Class...AKA...Jose Espinosa-Illegal Immigrant. post cutesy of IE 7 grammer/spell checker.

Posted by: JWx2 | July 27, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Let's do HealthCare right:

#1. European Drug Prices FOR ALL AMERICANS

Cost: $0 Savings: HUGE

#2. Get the 40 MILLION FREELOADING ILLEGALS off of our HealthCare.

Savings: Over $300 BILLION DOLLARS savings for American Taxpayers

Posted by: buzzm1 | July 27, 2009 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Ted Kennedy better hurry up and get treatment before obama's health care decides to give him a pain pill and kick him to a corner to die...obama's government health care deems treatment too expensive for an old man and not a good investment.

Posted by: JWx2 | July 27, 2009 1:09 PM | Report abuse

"The healthcare reform bill released by the House Of Representatives is an excellent bill as I understand it. It's a bill with a strong, robust, government-run public option, and an intelligent, reasonable initial funding plan to cover almost all of the American people."

HAHAHAHA - The thing is, you DON'T understand it~!!!
This plan has very little oversight, has pharmaceutical and other medical industries companies drooling at the money they can milk from the American people , and an increased cost to senior citizens.

"Can Pelosi Deliver on Health?"
the real question is: Do we want her to?!
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Lets hope this attempt to steal more money from the American people fails. Lord knows we already have our grand children in debt. What is Obama trying for, our great great grandchildren in debt ?!?

Posted by: jabberwolff | July 27, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Medicare works. I have never heard anyone say that Medicare is like getting healthcare from the DWV. Lower the eligibility so more people can use Medicare. Taking something that works, making it better, and expanding it to serve more people is simple and easy to grasp.

Posted by: alanwil2 | July 27, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure how anyone can say "government-run" and "intelligent" in the same sentence without laughing! Don't believe that the likes of Pelosi and Obama really have your (the American public) best interest at heart - they are playing for a lot of different lobby groups - but you are NOT on their list!

If anyone wants to comment on this topic, they should first see the movie "Food Inc".
After that, "health care reform" takes on a whole new meaning.

Health care reform starts with the food industry, including the FDA, USDA, Monsanto, the BIG 4 corps that handle and "process" (a very ugly word) the food, the grocery chains, and the most important part of the system, the American consumer.

We vote for the foods we want by the dollars we spend.
It is time to vote for real food - grown locally by people that follow natural and true organic principles - not the watered down version that the USDA has "defined" and sold to the highest bidders.

If the American consumer continues its love affair with "Fast food", "meals in a box" and produce that is shipped from foreign countries (lacking the nutritional benefits they contain when grown and picked fresh) and from other states, then the "health care industry" will pick their financial bones clean with expensive medical procedures and medications that treat a symptom and (usually) causing several more.

"Poison for Profits" is what I have been calling it for he past few years now, and both the food industry and the government are literally making a "killing" on the average consumer...

Wake up America! Take your heads out of the sand and CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU EAT - then you won't need a doctor anymore...

Posted by: kyfarmer | July 27, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

That's 40 MILLION ILLEGALS that you will get to pay for..thanks to PELOSI, REID, SCHUMER, and OBAMA

http://bit.ly/SeCUP

Posted by: buzzm1 | July 27, 2009 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I'll feel good about the proposed bill when I read that Ms. Pelosi & Senator Boxer et.al. have agreed to decline their current health care plans provided to them courtesy of our taxes and sign up for the same plan that they are trying to get passed.
Could it be that they have not yet read the zillion pages in its entirety?
And I'd like to know how some of our truly senior citizen legislators feel about the wording on page 425 about mandatory counseling on how to end their lives?

Posted by: pasorealtor | July 27, 2009 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Illegal immigrants won't be covered under Healthcare Reform; HOWEVER OBAMA PLANS ON MAKING ILLEGALS LEGAL SO YOU CAN PAY FOR ILLEGALS TOO

Posted by: buzzm1 | July 27, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

There are questions on both what Pelosi can deliver and on what she hopes to deliver? The biggest issue appears to be the public option. I suspect her only hope of delivering that would be to generate a huge wave of support for it among the constituents of the centrist Democrats and Republicans who are the swing voters needed to pass the bill at least in the Senate. The more likely outcome of a focus on Pelosi is raising more questions about health care reform among the center of the electorate. But Pelosi may be worried about political cover with her supporters and maintaining her political clout when she actually has to accept a bill without a plan run directly by the government. The theater around that compromise may serve to reassure those parts of the electorate that are worried about government over reaching in a too ambitious health care bill.

Posted by: dnjake | July 27, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Congress will pass a bill to appease people. The bill will be multi-payer, with employer participation. Private for-profit insurance companies will continue as strong as ever. There will likely be some kind of public option. The public option will be flexible, i.e. easily co-opted by private companies, it will be a tool for private enrichment, Very likely, public money will channel to middle men, as with the Private Fee for Service scheme burdening Medicare. It won't be long before private companies use the new system to their benefit, and eventually they will erode it, and the wealth-stripping will resume with private greed tapping a new public revenue stream.

Posted by: rjjd | July 27, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

THIS IS IT!

The healthcare reform bill released by the House Of Representatives is an excellent bill as I understand it. It's a bill with a strong, robust, government-run public option, and an intelligent, reasonable initial funding plan to cover almost all of the American people. It is carefully written, and thoughtfully constructed, informed, prudent and wise. This bill will save trillions of dollars, and millions of your lives. It is also now supported by the AMA.

This is the type of bill that all Americans can feel good about. And this is the type of bill that has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of healthcare for all Americans. Rich, middle class and poor a like. Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and all other party affiliations. This bill has the potential to dramatically improve the quality of life of every American.

The house healthcare bill should be viewed as the minimum GOLD STANDARD by which all other proposed healthcare legislation should be judged. All supporters of true high quality healthcare reform should now place all your support behind this healthcare reform bill released by the United States House Of Representatives, as the minimum Gold standard for healthcare reform in America.

You should all now support this bill with all your might, and all of your unrelenting tenacity. This healthcare bill is a VERY, VERY GOOD! bill for all of the American people. Fight tooth, and nail for every bit of this bill if you have too. Be aggressive, creative, and relentless for this bill.

From this time forward, go BIGGER and DEEPER with the American people every day until passage of healthcare reform with a robust, government-run public option.

FIGHT!! like your life and the lives of your loved ones depends on it. BECAUSE IT DOES!

SPREAD THE WORD

Senator Bernie Sanders on healthcare (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSM8t_cLZgk&feature=player_embedded)

God Bless You

Jack Smith — Working Class

Posted by: JackSmith1 | July 27, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

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