Climate Change Cacaphony
Our Readers Who Comment have been energized this morning by an article that says environmentalists are struggling to beat the energy lobby in their goal to enact major legislation that is best known by the shorthand "cap and trade." If anonymous reader comments mean anything, those who oppose the legislation have the upper hand, at least the hour of this writing.
As David A. Fahrenthold writes, environmentalists "are making slow progress adapting a movement built for other goals -- building alarm over climate change, encouraging people to "green" their lives -- into a political hammer, pushing a complex proposal the last mile through a skeptical Senate." The House has passed a bill.
A lot of readers say they do not believe there is a global warming crisis (it's nice and cool right now in the Washington suburbs), that Al Gore is wrong, etc. Environmental voices are certainly heard, but as often happens, they get into arguments over whether nuclear power is a good idea (it's nice and clean as long as you don't have a Three Mile Island event) and lambaste the concept of "clean coal." Were it not for health reform, this would be front and center.
We'll start with fenoy, who wrote, "Anyone with three functioning brain cells long ago came to the conclusion that man-made global warming is a hoax concocted by loony left environmentalists. Total sham!"
But fbutler1 said, "...Fossil fuels are and have always been dirty. There's nothing clean or green about them. Gasification of coal still produces CO2, but hell, you get that from cars with catalytic converters (if they are working properly) and that's part of the problem... This American is tired of it and looks forward to progressive legislation that ACTUALLY weans us off of the old way."
drees1956 wrote, "Idiots pushing for electric cars that have to be charged by coal fired plants. Absolutely zero push for nuclear energy. No one wants a windmill in their backyard. Tons of toxic waste generated for every kw of solar panel manufactured. Green my donkey!"
rmlwj1 said, "Building nuclear power plants would solve much of the emission problems."
To which TheBabeNemo replied, "yes! happy monday. Let's call Russia and Iran. Who's answering the phone today?..."
AmericanInterestsFirstandLast said, "By the way when will these good folk take action to put a lid on the carbon emissions now being released by those recurring California wildfires?... For starters, mandate no more building of new homes in those pristine canyons with the resulting desecration of the environment and increased liklihood of accidental fires or opportunities for arsonists with added roads etc..."
TwoHotel9 wrote, "Cap&trade, the economy killer, will destroy energy production, industry, and agriculture in America. That is its entire purpose, to punish America for being productive and successful."
alivo said, "Cap and trade is a good idea. It is not "Marxism" or "government takeover" as some are claiming. It's government regulation to protect the environment, something we've been doing for a long time. Theodore Roosevelt used government to protect the environment. The House has passed cap and trade. Now it's the Senate's turn. Let's support this bill. It will serve everyone well."
LarryG62 alleged that "The environmentalists are just another bunch of liberal dumbos. About like the nitwits in PETA [People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals]. Too much time and money on their hands."
hfaulk01 asked, "Are we stupid enough to sell our environment for a 'free lunch'? And as you chew on that sandwich and drink the beverage you might ask yourself, 'who is paying for this..and more importantly why?' People, there is no such thing as 'clean coal' nor a 'free lunch' PERIOD."
Saladin3 wrote, "Because this isn't science, it's a hoax and burning skeptics with hatred and dismissal doesn't win a debate... When a debate consists of slander instead of argument you know something is wrong. I do hope the hack and slash bill attacking our way of life and standard of living goes down to bitter defeat, but I don't count on it."
Atenora said, "Only the elitist liberals have the extra money to pay for new green taxes. Who cares about the environment when so many people in this country are struggling to put food on the table."
wesevans wrote, "Much has been said about the oil and gas companies funding anti-climate change legislation.However the pro climate change people are also well financed and have a financial motivation every bit as strong. Example Al Gore stands to make 10's of millions of dollars if cap and trade legislation is passed. GE and other companies as well as OPEC hope that the US will restrict it's energy production. China hopes that it can surpass the US in economic ability. Will we screw our selves for the benefit of these people?"
camasca said, "There are no free lunches. No one would directly inhale anything coming out of a car tail pipe or out of a smoke stack. We should tax carbon. It's simple, easy, and will cover the cost caused by carbon polluters."
stryker1 wrote, "Looks like this will be a cool year. Every year that passes, the effect of the Kool-Aid provided by the media, seems to be wearing off. As in Europe, Americans are beginning to realize that anthropogenic global warming is a hoax.
The MSM, including the Post, will continue to slant reality to convince us otherwise but will eventually fail..."
VirginiaIndependent said, "Even those who are convinced that greenhouse gas emissions pose a severe, immediate threat should oppose the climate change legislation. This bill is designed to boost energy costs for most American consumers without reducing the world's temperature. And most impartial analysts conclude it will cost far more jobs than it creates."
iamredwolf wrote, "I read Charles Darwin's "On The Origin of Species" like most good little tykes... I appreciate Darwin's take on Changing Climate: Those who adapt, thrive. Those who fight it, perish. Evolution is very straight forward. The gist is: Don't
squander your last resources and energy trying to re-create the past. Go with the flow and just do what you have to, to roll with any actual Climate Changes that show up..."
moebius22 said, "...The fact is cap and trade will make energy more expensive, and will definitely cost jobs without any guarantee it will replace those same jobs during a recession."
ChrisFord1 wrote, "I think part of the problem is climate change activists have made several promises that have raised considerable doubt. They have failed to see China and India and much of the rest of the world rejecting caps. They have have seen some of their favored eneergy sources prove too expensive to use or too limited by their nature while they stand in mindless opposition to nuclear and any oil or gas drilling and characterizing the people who get the gas or make nuke electricity gen as EVIL..."
charlietuna666 said, "what happened to global warming? is it now climate change? the climate has been changing since before the industrial revolution. Now, it's all man's fault? give me a break. it was in the fifties last night in the DC suburbs in august..."
We'll close with 12thgenamerican, who predicted, "i can't wait for the climate bill town halls,if they have them. you are going to see a backlash that will make the health care town halls look like a sunday social. out with the radical leftists."
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August 31, 2009; 6:33 AM ET
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