No partisan climate change on warming bill
Our Readers Who Comment are arguing about whether global warming exists, whether nuclear power plants are a good idea and the relative merits of the American political belief system because of a Post report that climate change legislation has no chance of passing the Senate unless some Republicans decide to vote for it.
As reporter Juliet Eilperin writes, "So Democratic leaders, with the support of the Obama administration, are trying to sway at least half a dozen Republicans by offering amendments to speed along their top priority: building nuclear power plants."
There is more than the usual political name calling. Democrats use the term rethuglicans to attack the other party and accuse their own for not getting anything done, a reference both to health care legislation and global warming. Republicans complain that all Democrats want to do is tax and spend.
We'll start with terrymulligan, who wrote, "So much political capital being wasted on legislation that effectively dooms the planet by encouraging inaction. Yes, it's unfortunate that most Republicans and a large portion of Democrats in the Senate can't support a climate change bill. Sadder still is the overall lameness of cap-and-trade. If this bill were to pass, I wouldn't bet on any significant progress in the direction of protecting the planet -- just more dealmaking and loopholes for allowing the damage to continue unabated..."
But maxpower99 said, "Global warming/ climate change is a hoax. The dems have decided they can't just honestly tax people anymore and still get elected, so the make this up and have the media try to sell it and get their energy tax under the guise of some save the planet/carbon credit bull5hit. This is a hoax, and I hope the writer is correct when she says it will die."
rspound21 suggested that "Cap and trade may or may not be a good idea, but nuclear power is a very very good idea and the only realistic way to bring down carbon output. It's worth it to accept cap and trade to get nuclear."
But lichtme said, "Of course gopers think nukes are the best way to generate electricity-- nukes are the most expensive and poisonous way to do it."
And mattislavin offered that "Nukes always cost more than advertised. We don't yet have solutions to waste disposal, and theft of fuel for use by terrorists in building a bomb is always present. Yet, they are no carbon. If it takes building more nukes to get a climate bill passed, I say do it, and we'll (hopefully) figure out solutions to waste disposal and fuel security..."
kavalair wrote, "If Congress passes this and health care, the middle class will cease to exist. These bills will tax them into poverty, which is what this administration wants. If people are hungry and poor, they will latch onto anything or anyone who offers them a handout, even if it means a total loss of their freedoms. This is the goal of Obama, make no mistake about it..."
robbird1 said, "At this stage it hardly matters. It won't matter to these legislators what happens 20, 40 or 50 years from now - they won't be seeking office, and most will be dead. Primitive organisms we humans are - driven by our urges for proximate benefits even at the cost of future survival."
B2O2 wrote, "Meanwhile, the pine beetle is decimating Montana's forest because of the recent rise in temperatures. Why are Republicans too stupid to listen to scientists? That's all I want to know. Why can't these people grow up?"
To which Peejay responded, "Well, when you're a grown up, you know to ask a few questions. For example, if we assume that global warming exists and is caused by human CO2 emission, a) how big a problem is it?, b) can we do anything about it?, and c) is the cost of doing something about it worse than the cost of letting it happen? Any of you big-brained Democrats got the answers? I thought not."
muawiyah wrote, "Climate change? You mean like the ones we've been having over the last 2,000,000 years. Every time you turn around there's another big ol'glacier painting everything down to the 40th parallel in a two mile deep pile of ice. Now how is Cap and Tax supposed to deal with that CERTAINTY?..."
TonyQ82 said, "I have little hope for a strong climate bill given the depressingly toothless health bill that's about to pass. Are these industry puppets in the senate really gonna just sit there and pretend there isn't a dire problem in need of solving?
The senate needs serious reform. We shouldn't need 60 votes, especially not of patrician industry puppets in an unrepresentative body, to get anything done in this country. I think the only hope is of Obama's EPA picks up the slack our useless Congress leaves on this issue."
ADNova wrote, "The democrats need to stop being babies and get on with it. Pass the bill, even through reconciliation if necessary. It's time they showed the republicans and the american people who's in charge..."
CarmanK said, "This really gets old. The democrats were elected to take on the tough issues and find solutions. The republicans have been taking the country in the wrong direction far too long. There is no excuse for not getting climate change legislation enacted. The health insurance reform debacle, has demonstrated the democrats lack the the will. So, the people were suckered... There is no room for more excuses, we have heard them all. Either make a difference or get out of office."
We'll close with athaskell, who wrote, "nooooo!! you are writing an opinion piece! You can't start your article with "...there is almost no hope for passage." Journalism 101 Juliet! And if you do decide to write an opinion, please get on the right side of history!! We need this bill!!!"
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November 2, 2009; 7:15 AM ET
Categories: Cap and Trade , Global Warming | Tags: Cap and Trade, Congress, Global Warming
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