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Readers cheer, decry Senate health care action

Our Readers Who Comment either cheer or predict danger to the nation after Senate Democrats united early this morning to move health-care reform legislation toward a final vote.

Reader opponents to the legislation have expressed mostly angry opposition in the months of debate on this subject. This morning they moved to dire forecasts that the proposal would either destroy the country and/or result inevitably in the defeat of many Democrats in the next election. There have been frequently uncivilized remarks about President Obama throughout the debate and they continue today.

But those who think there is a social justice element in making health care possible for all are cheering. As Shailagh Murray and Lori Montgomery write, the administration "argued that the measure would transform the health-care system, both for people who have insurance and for 31 million Americans who otherwise would go without. "

Several high hurdles remain for the legislation and columnist Dana Milbank, watching the Senate in action, observed that a tone of civility on the subject crossed a line "long ago, during the summer of death panels and socialists."

We'll start with ElrodinTennessee, who wrote, "Republicans fought tooth and nail to prevent Americans from getting universal health insurance, just as they fought against Medicare and Social Security. This is hardly a perfect bill, but it is a repudiation of the deeply corrupt ideology of conservative Republicanism."

But Realist20 said, "The Dems own this one and it will kill them in the upcoming elections... Watch the Budget deficit grow after this monstrosity is passed - Obama and his socialist movement will set this country back 100 years, lower the standard of living in America, and greatly increase state and federal tax rates, cause a huge bump in unemployment as costs for businesses now went way up."

marecek opined that "Well, this is like the proverbial coal in your Christmas stocking. I think this bill is really so compromised that it may even be worse than nothing, but only time can tell. All I can say is that some Democrats (and nearly all Republicans) have been very bad this year and should be left off of Santa's list."

Eureka1 wrote, "It's amazing that any of the Senate's 40 Republican members can sleep this morning after this vote. Clearly not one of them cares at all that thousands of Americans die each year solely because they don't have access to health insurance."

nana6 said, "However you look at it this is a victory for people who don't have health insurance and that's why Republicans are outraged. They know that once the dust settles Americans are going to realize this is the right thing to do, this is good for America."

csa178 predicted that "Now the nightmare begins for Americans in getting good quality and affordable health insurance and care! Small businesses will face an insurmountable problem with record keeping and paperwork and we will all eventually see an increase in fees and taxes over the next few years. Who else is going to pay for this but the American Middle Class..."

RKGaithersburg wrote, "Despite the fact that provisions of insurance premium competition have been diluted, I still like that I will be able to buy the insurance despite pre-existing health conditions and that the insurance can not be dropped if I develop a serious health condition. No longer health insurance will be a factor in deciding whether I want to change my job. Now get it done."

mingkeeper said, "It is remarakbly foolish for our government to continue using employers to fund health care. Such a system puts US companies at a disadvantage in the global marketplace and even forces some businesses to close or relocate to other countries. We cannot continue on this course."

owldog wrote, "Let's hope we can revive a public option in the conference, and maybe make everyone eligible for it in the future."

AlanGoldberg54 asked, "Why do conservatives support mandatory auto insurance?"

TAGilbert wrote, "Fantastic news! The USA is at last joining the list of civilised nations which look after all their citizens."

johne37179 said "The Democrats are going to pass a bill most voters oppose to ensure their defeat in 2010. When are Democrats going to learn that they are the elected representatives of the people and not their to serve only their own arrogant narrow point of view?"

gilbertpb40 wrote, "The Healthcare Reform bill will be improved when it combines with the bill that the House of Representatives passed. It will not be everything that most of us wanted (i.e. strong public option) but, in the final analysis, it will be an improvement and a start toward real healthcare reform."

wendy12345 said, "Lies, lies and more lies...This is all about turning our constitution on its head and becoming a socialist society."

We'll close with ChrisNBama said, "I've never seen anything like the complete meltdown of comity and obstruction in the U.S. Senate, but the fact that this bill will now likely pass gives me hope that the Congress CAN act on the pressing challenges before us. Kudo's to the democrats! It's been messy. It's been uneven. In the end, they got things done."

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  December 21, 2009; 7:11 AM ET
 | Tags: Health-Care Reform, Senate  
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Posted by: ElrodinTennessee | December 22, 2009 12:01 AM | Report abuse

It is a travesty that a nation as wealthy as our does NOT insure all of its citizens. How incredibly selfish. Hopefully this bill is a step closer to what we should have achieved long ago. As a tax payer, It is very disappointing and sobering to watch how overtly Congress represents special interests and lobbyists in favor of its citizens. The HMO industry was initially founded on the principal of controlling health care costs, but at the end of the day what the industry accomplished was to bankroll enormous amounts of money as the middle men under anti-trust protection by paying doctors less for procedures yet charging us more in premiums. It's amazing, embarrassing and maddening that we subsidize it. The amount of money that HMOs, big pharma and Exxon spend on lobbying Congress each year would be enough to feed the world. Aren't we lucky?

Posted by: citizen4truth1 | December 21, 2009 8:38 PM | Report abuse

This vote will ensure that I vote for Democratic candidates in 2010. Up to now it was not clear they could get the job done for the American people. I am feeling more confident now.

Posted by: cdierd1944 | December 21, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

It's a baby-step in the right direction when we sorely needed a leap forward. I guess in this day and age when one of the major parties is chock full of fundamentalists that would make the Amish blush it's as good as it was going to get though. I'm pretty sure the 50+ million current uninsured are going to remember a solid block of 40 turncoats who refused to participate in governing because it gave them butt-hurt. Their reality doesn't agree with theory of the Republican party.

Shame on the Bluedogs for joining in on the ideological slant against single payer or the public option. If they haven't figured it out by now the whole no regulation mantra has been proven disastrous.

So next year let's strip away the anti-trust exemptions and put in some TORT reform.

Posted by: theobserver4 | December 21, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I am shocked that the Communist Post's sampling includes mostly positive comments for the leftists trying to destroy this country! Shocked I tell you!

Posted by: ArlingtonHokie | December 21, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Good for 30 million Americans? What about the other 270 million?
Sen. Reid, Rep Pelosi & Obama have worn out the practice of kissing political backsides with the lips of the taxpayers, who opposed this thing 61% to 34%.
It's also sad that WaPo has morphed into such a biased yellow-pulped rag of a paper.

Posted by: OttoDog | December 21, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

A "health reform" bill written by lobbyists for their clients and passed by a Congress that is in their pocket is nothing to cheer about, even if they drag out poor Victoria to declare that Teddy's ghost is pleased. The whole thing is just too disgusting! This is not for the good of the American people, it is for the good of the insurance companies!

Posted by: mihalick | December 21, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

It is so odd how the Washington Post is always accusing others of incivility when its own blogger has become known worldwide as surpassing Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck is outrageous statements by accusing Joe Leiberman of killing 100,000 people by blocking the public option.

The Washington Post has no problem with reprinting statement about Republicans, Sarah Palin, George Bush that cross the line of obscene. It had no problem praising Alan Grayson and Howard Dean for their uncivilized discussion. It did write a word about Senator Whitehouse calling opponent (65% of the country) of the health care bribe "Aryan white supremicist nazis".

Shame on the Washington Post. The American people saw cash for cloture using taxpayer money. To not acknowledge their outrage is why US citizen no longer trust the media.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | December 21, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

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