Readers debate Democrats' survival
Our Readers Who Comment predictably praise or damn stories about polls depending on their political leanings and whether they like the results. We have both responses to a new Washington Post poll that suggests Democratic Party leaders have emerged "mostly unscathed" from the exhausting health-care reform debate.
The adverb mostly is needed because, as pollsters Jennifer Agiesta and Jon Cohen note, "President Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.) may have reaped some benefit from the legislation's passage, but the public's take on the Democratic Party has not budged, and Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (Nev.) appears to be losing popularity." Reid is also in a tough re-election fight.
Readers cheer or boo, depending on their political allegiance. They charge that the Post is biased because it runs poll results they don't like. They argue with each other. They predict defeat for the other party and victory for theirs. And, if there is a third theme at all in this sometimes unruly comment stream, it is the repeated question of why the government is concentrating on health care instead of jobs. Meanwhile, if you want to read an excellent analysis of what might happen with health-care reform, Ezra Klein has a super piece.
We'll start with jc_abril, who wrote, "Oh oh GOP, things aren't so rosy for November are they? Keep up the obstructions and you will continue losing support... I expect a democrat comeback."
But theaz said, "Prediction, Democrats get routed big-time, historic losses!"
jazbond007, who apparently holds negative views about Democrats, wrote, "Polls do not measure motivation to vote. Anti-Obamacare voters will ALL show up at the polls on November 2 to vote against any and all Democrats on the ballot. Pro-Obamacare respondents to polls are not voters. They will not notice there is an election on November 2 because Obama is not running for anything, and because they are illegal immigrants, or illiterate, or not registered to vote, or high on drugs, or hungover alcoholics."
borntorun45 noted that, "It's still early... When Americans learn what's really in the health care bill, they're going to realize that it's going to benefit them and the country. And they're going to realize that the GOP lied to them. Again."
RealTexan1 said, "The thing about the Dem's is they buy votes with taxpayer dollars. If one group has little cash, they simply promise them benefits at some other group's expense. They do this with votes too. If they (Dem's) need more votes, they might promise illegal aliens citizenship and thereby gather their number as votes. It's all very dishonest and does not serve the nation."
To which GerriM replied, "I am sorry to have to break this to you as a fellow American but, unfortunately, both Democrats and Republicans resort to this sordid and corrupt conduct. That is why we hold Congress in low esteem."
rigoman33 asked, "What did the Dems expect?!? Even with the long wet kiss by the WaPo and mainstream media on celebrating the passage of this HC bill the inescapable fact of the matter is that the MAJORITY of the American public didn't want this bill. HC reform? Yes. But this monstrosity? No. There's only so much lipstick you can put on the pig. It's still a pig."
antisocialist found a bright side in writing, "Congress had record low approval ratings, but yay! they haven't gotten worse over recess."
ScamfortheRich said, "The Dems now need to focus 110% on creating jobs!"
To which 12thgenamerican replied, "scamfortherich, you are absolutely right. but why aren't they doing that? obama and his team said thats what they were going to do a month or so ago. you know why they haven't? because it is an impossibilty... the only way jobs get created is cut taxes and regulations ,both of which are going to be increased GREATLY..."
fenoy asked, "What is the WaPo trying to blow up our skirts? Nancy "Botox" Pelosi has an approval rating of 11% and Harry "Dinky" Reid has an 8% approval rating. Syphilis is more popular than these two."
pkhenry wrote, "Those who wanted socialism are happy with Obama."
sally62 wrote, "The "elite" used to have the respect of the people. Why no longer?...The absolute snarky manipulative, arrogance of the Dem "elite" (Obama & entourage, Pelosi, Frank & Reid) we have today will be paid for in November."
To which rtinindiana replied, "Well, that's an interesting observation. You're wrong of course, because I can think of one person who'll be voting for the Democrats in November who is a natural-born American, a college graduate, registered to vote for the last forty years, and doesn't drink, smoke and has never done drugs, and to further degrade your point, believes in God..."
honorswar26 wrote, "I'm sure that when you gave a poll to your usual Democratic cheering section demographics you would get a result that doesn't "hurt" Democrats. If you talked to the rest of America who is going to have to pay the bill for Obamacare, you would get a far different result though."
Realist20, in one of several posts expressing essentially the same message, wrote, "...The Post and the Dems are delusional. Supporting that socialist health bill will kill the Dems in the midterms and eveyone knows it....including the post. it's coming Dems, 7 months and 2 weeks from now the majority switches from Dem to GOP on Capitol Hill!"
Casey1 said, "We have listened to filthy lies from the Republicans since the summer from hell. The ignorant, hateful, superstitious base of the party has at last defined it... Let Republicans spend the rest of the year campaigning against healthcare reform. Let them check out of governing, as their leaders have pledged to do.
Obama should just pursue his agenda as if the whiny losers weren't there. They are liars. They don't deserve to be heard."
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