Health-care reform haters out in force
Those who hate the health-care reform proposal are out in full force this morning in response to a Post story that says Democratic leaders are "expressing optimism" they can get the legislation to President Obama, although they do not have firm votes for passage. If our Readers Who Comment were voting, the bill doesn't have a chance.
With the comment total approaching 500 as of this writing, opponents of the legislation are clearly in the lead, in many cases apparently just because Obama is pushing it. There are some who worry about rationing; there are some who express concern about the long-term implications for the national budget. There are a few unhappy libs longing for the so-called public option. And there is a minority who note that millions of Americans cannot get or do not have coverage under the current situation and they regard that as a bad thing. Some from the other side complain that "reform" would just benefit illegals and welfare families.
There is also a strong string on Rep Paul Ryan's op-ed column complaining about "how far the Democratic majority has wandered from real health-care reform and cost control, employing any means to achieve political victory." Ryan (Wis.) is the ranking Republican on the House Budget Committee.
Is it any wonder, as Fred Hiatt writes, that Obama "doesn't seem all that happy being president."?
We'll start with Tupac_Goldstein, who wrote, "Medicare not properly funded, Medicaid a disaster for the states, and now Social Security is asking to be repaid! On top of these 3 losers, the Democrats are bound and determined to create yet another entitlement, built upon Enron-style accounting."
And cougartonyusa said, "I am sick of hearing about health care. Either vote on it or shelve it. We have other problems."
las100 wrote, "...The pitiful truth... is that the disagreement over this bill is spread over too many issues to come to a simple agreement. The strategy proposed by the White House and the DNC is an effort to gloss over the policy differences and pretend there is a "Democratic majority" that simply doesn't exist. The conservative wing of the party is siding with the the Republicans and finding fault in general. The progressive wing of the party is furious at the "centrist" administration that has sold out the public option to corporate benefits to insurance and health care industry providers. To pass the bill, Obama's team is going to have to cede to one of the sides...and will suffer the loss of support of the other...and it will mean the end of the Democratic majority Obama patched together with his promise of change..."
richardwhetstone said, "...the Senate passed the health care reform bill by a large majority of 60 votes. This bill has been debated and examined from virtually every related perspective. The vast majority of Americans support virtually every aspect of this bill. If it had not been from the conscious misinformation and fear mongering from the Republicans and their financial supporters from the health insurance industry, this bill would now be the law. Instead, the Republicans' obstruction has damaged our country by having President Obama's administration focus on this issue when other issues demand equal attention..."
But paulnolan97 wrote, "Why not pass the bill. After all Republicans have been passing crappy legislation including unneeded tax cuts that put the Republic in debt big time. Democrats always have a better idea than Republicans about how to run a government. So what are they waiting for[?]..."
Parker1227 asked, "Who wrote the headline? [Democratic leaders say health bill will pass] Couldn't it just as easily (and more accurately) have said, "House still lacks votes to pass health bill"?" [The online headline was later changed to read, "On health bill, Democrats have optimism, not votes"].
Fiftycaltx1 said, "All you obamacare supporters need to answer a question. How do you give 10 percent more people health care, don't increase the supply of that care and "save money"? You RATION IT! So the government decides who WINS and who LOSES. And in this case, losing means DYING. So, do you cut off care for a certain age, certain diseases or just blow smoke until your dream bill passes?"
releggneh1 wrote, "The bill will pass?? You mean after the bribes the back door deals, the lies, the reconciliation, you will force this down our throats & you will all be unemployed in Novemeber!! That's my optimisim"
EliPeyton said, "We're on the deck of the Titanic. We have 107 trillion dollars in unfunded mandates and 12.5 trillion in debt. Yet Captain Obama and donkey/elephant crew are arguing about how much bigger the gash should be in the hull.
If you're the Chinese, why invade?"
mtpeaks wrote, "And so the great day came to pass. When our elected officials voted, well not really voted, for the reform, well not really reform, supported by the people, well not most of the people, which bestowed great benefits on the people, well on some of the people, right away, well maybe in four years or so. But at least it passed."
ea55375 said, "Although providing health access to our uninsured is a moral to do, yet forcing everyone to buy insurance or face fine is dictatorial and immoral as it seeks to destroy our freedom and liberty...To benefit the few, it will destroy the foundation of America. Stop this bill!"
We'll give today's blatantly nativist and anti-poor people award to dharc, who asked, "how do you control costs when you add 30 million illegal aliens and welfare mothers and their 19 kids to the rolls?what, open a dmv office and say now serving number 29 million?you communist are out of your minds."
mymymichl said, "This is all so terrible.. Obama needs desperately to pass a bill-any bill, and the one he's got is lousy with compromises and confusion. But of he doesn't pass a bill, he's dead politically. It just happens to be a bad bill."
etronsen wrote, "It would be much better for Democrats if there were not enough votes to pass the Senate Bill."
We'll close with this:
somers91 wrote, "the helpless 'chickens' are guarded by 'lib.foxes'"
To which abigsam replied, "That's cool! I wouldn't mind if a foxy lib showed up at my door right now. Maybe she'll even be clad in leather!"
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