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It's an angry bunch of Readers Who Comment this morning as they juggle the confounding notion that while more people are finding jobs the official unemployment rate may increase, as Obama Administration officials said.

Readers complain that many government jobs -- mostly for the census -- have skewed the figures. They complain that the "socialized" health-care reform package will lead to economic ruin. They complain that jobs are outsourced to India and China or off-the-books illegals. They blame President Obama. And they regard the process the government uses to determine the unemployment rate as a lot of hooey. If you're unemployed but are not officially looking for a job, you're not counted as unemployed.

And the situation isn't going to get better fast. As V. Dion Haynes writes, "Some economists say the jobless rate will not recede to pre-recession levels near 5 percent for four more years."

We'll start with releggneh1 who wrote, "So what you are saying is the 9.7% has been much higher because you haven't included the ones that gave up looking right?? A tremendous increase in the labor force?? Could you please state what are these 162000 jobs that have been created? How many census * how many govt jobs?? But yet the unemployment #'s go nowhere?? The great number pretender is at it again. But yet Obama takes credit for it!! What exactly are they leaving out of this picture??"

Realist7598462 said, "The "jobless" rate should include everyone who is not working, or who is underemployed, not just those who are looking and getting unemployment. But, politicians aren't really interested in the truth, just spin."

CatMan1 wrote, "This is serious. When will the Post and other news outlets start reporting that this IS A DEPRESSION."

Which caused MikeJ9116 to say, "What the WaPo should be reporting is the truth about Obama. They would rather have you believe the country is in an economic depression than tell you Obama is running the country into the ground. Obama, Pelosi, Reid and nearly every other Democrat doesn't have a clue as to what needs to be done to get the economy really moving... The only hope this country has is to be run by true conservatives and not the RINOs the Republican Party has coddled the past decade."

And that inspired pjs1965 to ask, "Exactly how is Obama running the country into the ground? What about the 8 previous years of intractible wars, unsustainable trends in housing, a banking system brought to the brink of failure, and other areas of the economy leading up to a big fall among other things. You idiots argue as if history began on January 20th 2009. You are basically blaming the janitor cleaning up the mess left over by the food fight in the lunch room caused by the Bush Administration."

fabricmaven1 wrote, "Why should we be surprised at these numbers? For over thirty years this country has embraced politicians who were outsourcing our jobs to other countries for pittance salaries. We can't have it both ways. Embrace a living wage and reasonable job protection or put on a Tricorn hat and pretend you know the intent of our 'Founding Fathers'."

umt123 asked, "When will we stop outsourcing jobs to China and India?
Is there a cutoff date?"

dryrunfarm1 said, "...We did just fine for more than half of our history without IRS employees, FDA chemists and 90% of the balance of the federal workforce, and we'd do just as well for another 140 years or so if we got rid of them all tomorrow."

But asja wrote, "I just have to tell you. If Obama invented a proven cure for all cancers tomorrow, some folks on this thread would criticize him for putting good American doctors out of work by growing government solutions to problems the private sector can solve. Those trying to reason with some folks is a futile exercise..."

christy42 said, "...Look - I've been an entrepreneur for over 15 years because I'm too much of a loser to make it through a job interview without sweating and sounding like a babbling idiot. In other words - I'm un-hire-able... The jobs are NOT going to be created because the economy has changed - BUT - you CAN make your own jobs - if you open your eyes to see what new services people need."M

LETFREEDOMRING2 wrote, "Didn't we just hear from Obama that we had turned a corner?... His dithering on Afghanistan and Iran and his budget killing credit wrecking, fascist Obamanation of rationed health care will wreck our economy and ruin our health care system. He is a complete failure and this article proves it."

gsouthwellmd said, "I know let's pass a job killing, non-problem solving health care bill, orchestrate an industry decimating cap and tax bill, and make 11 million illegal immigrants citizens! Oh wait, the great Ozbama is doing just that."

Homemom wrote, "I am a small business owner and...listen to other small business owners. Most will not hire even if they have openings because there are too many unknowns at this point. They have no idea how new taxes will hit them. Mnay make more than $250,000 a year but out of that comes taxes, salaries, benefits for FT employees. By the time they are done, that money is pretty shot. They are afraid to hire..."

marknelso said, "This administration doesn't have a clue as to how this economy works. While they were busy with their feel good health care program, big and small business were busy building bunkers to protect themselves from the onslausght of taxes that this Conngress has in store for them. Say goodbye to any potential job recovery."

We'll close with LizYang2, who wrote, "It's been almost 12 months since I lost my Marketing Manager position... it is very difficult to keep your spirits high. There are days I wonder will I EVER work again..

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  April 5, 2010; 7:16 AM ET
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Posted by: MoriyaLouis06 | April 6, 2010 5:12 AM | Report abuse

The republicans have brought the country to its knees through their greed and double dealing. First, they sent America's production capacity to China in order to fatten themselves like swine on the cheap Chinese labor, while selling the Chinese junk poison to us here in America. This effectively killed our factories and put the people who used to work in them on the street. Then the republicans enacted laws that allowed the exportation of American IT jobs to Indian H1-B pirates who come here to entice American employers to fire their workers and ship the jobs to the low-paid Indians in their Hyderabad holes. Thus, the republicans killed the American IT jobs as well.

And now, to crown it all, the lousy republicans in the Senate conspire to deny the unemployed in America extensions of their unemployment benefit which they receive because the republicans sent their jobs overseas. Have they no shame, these republican criminals, traitors and destroyers of our country? They use "free enterprise" as a cover for extortion, theft, and robbery.

Posted by: RichardHode | April 5, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Even if the improved employment picture is just due to "census jobs," those jobs pay money, and the people who got those jobs are probably mostly desperate for money and will spend it in the marketplace. When people spend money in our economy, what happens? Other people have to go to work to produce those goods and services. That's a good thing. Also, the top wage earners in our society are getting richer and richer and may be in the market for household servants and the like. Nannies, butlers, gardeners, pool boys, maids, cooks, chauffers. Dirty jobs but somebody has to do them.

Posted by: KateSaunders | April 5, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Okay, let's look at that 162,000 jobs created:

162,000 - 48,000 census workers - 81,000 (birth/death stats manipulated by Bureau of Lies and Statistics) - 40,000 "other jobs" (read part-time, temp) = negative 7,000 jobs

Also note that India's middle class is increasing exponentially with America's decrease in the middle class.

Companies that are outsourcing are holding out their hands for stimulus money, saying they will create new jobs. They don't say that those jobs are being created in India.

Posted by: OutsourcingVictim | April 5, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

from the grapes of wrath

If you aren't there, then you cannot understand the hatred building in this country.

bring it on?....hahahahaha, yeah, it'll come...let's see the sleek and content talk smack then.

Posted by: SofaKingCool2009


Yea the Internet tough guys are going to lead the revolution from their mom's basement. See you in the streets pal.

Posted by: theobserver4 | April 5, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Let's begin with what they're not.

They're sure not Democrats. But many aren't thrilled with the Republicans either.

The tea party itself is not a political party — and there are no signs it ever will be.

It has no single issue around which people rally. It has no clear leader who drives the organization's message, motivates followers and raises money. Indeed, the hundreds of tea party chapters and tens of thousands of its activists cannot agree on the most basic strategic goal: whether to influence the current political system or dismantle it.

The embryonic movement is not as much a force that drives public opinion as a reflection of it.

"Lot of noise," says one senior Republican consultant, "no muscle." But plenty of ability to make a scene: The consultant, who is directly involved in plotting the party's Senate elections strategy, insisted his name not be attached to that quote, concerned about alienating activists.

Many of those activists want nothing to do with political parties at all.

Posted by: Micholina1 | April 5, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

from the grapes of wrath

If you aren't there, then you cannot understand the hatred building in this country.

bring it on?....hahahahaha, yeah, it'll come...let's see the sleek and content talk smack then.

Posted by: SofaKingCool2009 | April 5, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Doug Feaver wrote:

It's an angry bunch of Readers Who Comment this morning as they juggle the confounding notion that while more people are finding jobs the official unemployment rate may increase, as Obama Administration officials said.


Most of it isn't anger at all. Most of it is a bunch of posts attempting to manipulate public opinion that things are worse than they are and not getting any better. They're pimping the GOP.

Michael Steele just said the GOP needs blogs to sell the GOP brand. That's because the news isn't doing them any good.

All the economic indicators are doing better. The DOW has gone from a low of 6500 to pushing 11,000. That doesn't happen on bad economic news. Consumer spending is up five consecutive months.

More economic data just released this morning ....

"Mon Apr 5 10:00:00 EDT 2010 |
The ISM Service Index for March came in at 55.4, which is better than the expected reading of 54.0 and marks the highest level for the ISM Service Index since mid-2006.

Pending home sales for February were also just released. They increased 8.2% month-over-month, which is a surprise since the consensus called for monthly sales to go unchanged. The numbers for January were revised lower to reflect a 7.8% monthly decrease...."

Jobs have always been a lagging indicator out of any recession that isn't going to change.

The anger shown by the bulk of the posts is Faux Anger coming from Faux News.

Posted by: James10 | April 5, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

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