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Could Islamic Center issue harm GOP?

The Not-Exactly-at-Ground-Zero mosque issue continues to generate strong responses from our readers and they are debating a story that says some influential Republicans are concerned that today's talking point harvest could generate long-term political damage for the GOP.

There are, of course, readers on both sides of the question. Some argue that the whole episode flies in the face of this country's constitutional commitment to religious freedom. Others recall 9/11 and essentially tar all Muslims with the Al-Qaeda brush. A few wonder why this has become the centerpiece of our political conversation with the economy in the tank, the war in Afghanistan, the questions about how much oil is still floating around in the Gulf of Mexico, and other substantive issues.

As Karen Tumulty writes, "Although public opinion is running overwhelmingly against the construction of the Islamic center, Republican strategists said there are dangers in pushing the issue too forcefully."

We'll start with pmax, who predicted that "In the end this will be bad for the Republicans. But first, it's going to be really bad for the Democrats."

And johne37179 said, "There is no need for Republicans to even mention this issue. Democrats are doing a great job of keeping the issue front and center and driving voters to the right."

But baldinho wrote, "The headline should/could read 'Few remaining Republicans with honor attempt to salvage the dignity of their party.' "

dgra said, "Sooner or later some journalist is going to figure out that the American people are tired of hearing about "voting blocs" and would simply prefer that rare politician that stands for what is right! Or at least what they think is right as opposed to expedient."

CHICO13 wrote, "Seems to me the right wing has already flipped the bird to the black and latino vote. Now they're doing the same to the muslim vote. Keep messing with social security wing nuts and you can kiss the senior citizen vote goodbye too."

Godfather_of_Goals said, "I think there is also the question of Republicans/Conservatives' stated preference for local control of local affairs. They should be able to recognize that it's not just "Ground Zero", it's a community of Americans who are very much alive, and those are the people who approves the siting of the Islamic Center. I think it would go against bedrock conservative principles to negate their right of local control in favor of state or federal intervention from outside."

bloggersvilleusa wrote, "Not just "could" backfire; already has. Bigots are beginning to galvanize people and solidify support against the Republicans, people who previously probably wouldn't have bothered to vote this coming November."

chgosatrap asked, "Doesn't smaller government include not getting involved with a private citizen's real estate deals?"

inono said, "Naw, let the Reeps talk mosques and 20 year plans for terrorist babies born here. These are hugely relevant issues to the millions searching for work and getting pounded by banks with 20% plus interest rates when banks are receiving billions of dollars of taxpayer funded subsidies."

btrask3 wrote, "What a ridiculous story... Every single terrorist claimed Islamic Jihad as his motive. Many Islamic World Leaders, Imam'a, and Mufti clearly simpathize with the Terrorists. And most important... Muslims have not stood up and condemned the terrorists and identified and condemned terrorist sympathizers in their midst. Until that happens... muslim activists don't have a leg to stand on."

[The article quotes conservative activist Grover Norquist as saying, "The support for criticizing a mosque is half a mile wide and an inch deep. And at the end of the process, the only people who will remember it are the people who feel threatened by this -- not just Muslims, but Sikhs, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and Mormons." That quote sets up the next two comments.]

morphex said, "The sects that Norquist says feel threatened by the demagogy around the prayer room in the Muslim cultural center a few block from Ground Zero should feel threatened by it. They are small and vulnerable and kind of odd in their beliefs and ritual practices, the very stuff that ignorant people pick on in times of trouble. Moslems today, but tomorrow it could be you."

And PLM671 wrote, "Grover Norquist's comment is very perceptive."

chgosatrap wrote, "I live in one of the most republican areas of Illinois, just 30 miles west of Chicago. There is a mosque here, and nobody seems to be freaked about it. They just keep building million dollar mini-mansions, and life is good."

PPpatriot said, "The first order of business is to publish a detailed account of who is paying for this affront. Follow the money, it always tells the truth about what is going on. Let's not forget this is more of a political movement than a religion. The political movement uses the religion as cover... If this is the Muslim religion speaking, their compassion for our feelings will cause them to consider another location; otherwise it's political and should be stomped out like a used cigarette butt."

RobertaHigginbotham wrote, "Loving and honoring our Constitution is a hard thing to do."

We'll close with parkerjere, who wrote, "wall Street and Washington rip off the taxpayers for over a trillion dollars, and now the politicians have got us arguing with each other over THIS???"

All comments on this article are here.

By Doug Feaver  |  August 18, 2010; 8:45 AM ET
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Posted by: Nabihah | August 19, 2010 5:23 AM | Report abuse

A religious center at Ground Zero?
Been there, done that:

http://www.japaninyourpalm.com/unionchurch.htm

Posted by: parkerjm71 | August 18, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

John 3:16.

Let every Republican wingnut, Tea Partyist, Palin lapdog, gun nut, birther, Bircher, and Gingrich jockey read, "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself." And may they repent before it's too late!

Posted by: bs2004 | August 18, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The center will be 600 feet from ground zero. To those who feel this is too close I would like to ask is 650 feet to close? How about 700? Do I hear 750? And if 800 feet is about right does that mean 795 feet is too close? I for one would love to hear Sarah Palin tell us what is the acceptable distance and (especially) how she came to that number. I wonder if she and other haters would also consider Mohammad Ali (who is Muslim) an enemy of the United States.

Posted by: thomgr | August 18, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

CMNC ~ since the proposed Mosque is AT GROUND ZERO ~ since the building now standing there was hit by large parts of the undercarriage and an engine, as well as the still living remains of tissues and vital bodily fluids of the people swept off the workfloor by the plane as it dove through the WTC tower and onto the roof of this building, and then punched through down inside, and the politicians KNOW THIS and have taken a stand, you can evaluate them in those terms.

Bloomberg and Pelosi and Obama think it's OK to build a "community center" run by a branch of the Moslem Brotherhood right on top of that particular hallowed site.

It is exactly like putting a mosque in a graveyard full of people murdered by Islamofascist fanatics.

Not good juju in that one.

Regarding the term "community center", that's pretty much what "mosque" means. You are thinking of something like a Christian church, a Buddhist temple or Hindu chapel that's been specially consecrated for religious worship.

Moslems don't really do that. They move into a community. Kill the kaf'r. Build a "community center", and schedule prayers in the main meeting hall.

Women go to the Mezzanine!

You see Islam was designed as a substitute for government, society, culture, and religion. One size fits all ~ or off with your head!

Posted by: muawiyah | August 18, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

On three occasions I have gathered with hundreds of others to pray at the Islamic Center in Washington DC on the anniversary on September 11. All those who made speeches and prayed on those days were praying for peace between all people of all religions, and those with no religion.

I myself practice Buddhism. Many of my Buddhist friends were there, as were many of my Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and Hindu friends.

We need to teach and "be" peace every day and everywhere. There is no better memorial to those who died on 9/11 than this. There is no better gift to future generations than practicing peace always.

Posted by: org2 | August 18, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Like this winner:

In June
2007
(then)
Presidential
Candidate Barack Obama
Declared that the USA Was no longer a
Christian nation.

You mean the same thing Jefferson and other Founding Fathers (you know, those guys who actually wrote the Constitution you love so dearly) said?

This country has never been a Christian nation. The sooner you wrap your warped brain around that fact, the better.

By the way, not that it matters to Fundies like yourself, but the exact quote was (I believe), "We are no longer JUST a Christian nation."

See how the context changes with the omission of a single word? It's a Fox strategy that dupes you stooges all the time.

Posted by: steve-2304 | August 18, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Good luck trying to educate the clueless mini2. That whole post is full of nonsense and falsehoods. Quite common with the religious right, they're not happy unless they feel they're being persecuted.

Posted by: steve-2304 | August 18, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

tanamerah1 | August 18, 2010 2:25 PM | HAS MUCH TO SAY ABOUT "THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER"; it might interest him or her that the Freedom from Religion Foundation sued in Federal District in Wisconsin and won its case on 15 April; the "National Day of Prayer" was declared unconstitutional (an appeal is pending).

The Obama administration is leading the appeal.

Posted by: mini2 | August 18, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

1. Is the proposed Islamic Center/office building going to be tax-exempt on the grounds that it is a religious edifice?
2. Is it true that the U.S. Government is
subsidizing mosques in other countries?
3. Whatever happened to the concept of
separation of church and state?

Posted by: vadata060440 | August 18, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Let me see if I have this straight:

1. Conservatives and Tea Party people stand triumphantly on the Constitution....as long as you believe in the same God as they do.

2. Conservatives and Tea Party people rail for less Government in their lives.....except if some 'scary brown people' want to build a community center in what amounts to nothing more than a real estate deal.

3. Conservatives and Tea Party people think the economy is the number one issue for the fall elections.....unless they can drag out hot button issues like this proposed building, or immigration, or abortion, or gay marriage.

4. Conservatives and Tea Party people think they'll be back in power this November, that the American voters will be so fed up with the current administration that they'll sweep into power......until the American public is reminded of how we got into this mess in the first place. Until they see through these hot button issues that play on emotions and actually search for how the Conservatives and Tea Party people really propose to make things different. And come up empty in trying.

Posted by: steve-2304 | August 18, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

There is no "issue" here; what we have is the lingering stench of one of Newt the Eft Gingrich's wet farts. The discussion is "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." Like Macbeth, the 'Publicans will be vanquished bloodily in Act V, a fate they, to a man, richly deserve.

Posted by: mini2 | August 18, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Either one does the right thing or they do not.

I am amazed that the Republicans sought short term advantage at the cost of their reputation for supporting the Constitution.

What a price to pay for a headline.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | August 18, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

fridrikr1, true enough this site isn't on the grounds of the World Trade Center, but it is as much "Ground Zero" as any other large building that had airplane components, jet fuel and the juice and tissue of human bodies smeared on it.

All the other buildings have been knocked apart and hauled away. This one wasn't.

Assuming Bloomberg's Islamification of New York proceeds on schedule at some point this particular building can be carefully dismantled and sold off as souvenirs to wealthy Islamofascists around the world.

Posted by: muawiyah | August 18, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The proposed "community center" is a tar baby, probably backed by the Saudis and intended to further radicalize American Moslems.

Anyone with two holes up their knows knows that the "freedom of religion" crap touted by Americans of both parties is, and has always been, a flat out lie, just like everything else in the Constitution. There is only real freedom of religion for Christians. If you're a Christian, you can have 7 wives, all under the age of 13 and stockpile automatic weapons. But, in a lot of states, if you're an atheist, you can't even be a notary public.

The Saudis KNOW this. They know that Americans hated Moslems before the 9/11/2001 attacks. The extremist Wahabists in Saudi Arabia will use all of this to point out to young American Moslems that they DO NOT have "freedom of religion" in the U.S. (which is the truth) and further radicalize them.

And the Religious Right and their political lackeys have played right into their hands.

Posted by: SODDI | August 18, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

FV, yes IT SHOULD harm the Democrats for this seems the case:
to confirm http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/capitolislam.asp

This is chilling...
=============================================
In


1952
President Truman
Established one day a year as a
"National Day of Prayer."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In
1988
President Reagan
Designated the
First Thursday in May of each year as
The National Day of Prayer.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

In June
2007
(then)
Presidential
Candidate Barack Obama
Declared that the USA Was no longer a
Christian nation.
---------------------------------------------------------------
This year
President Obama
Cancelled the
21st annual National Day
Of Prayer ceremony
At the White
House under the ruse
Of "not wanting to offend anyone"

------------------------------------------------------------------------

On September 25, 2009
From 4 am until 7 PM,
A National Day of Prayer
For the Muslim religion was Held on Capitol Hill,
Beside the White House.
There were over 50,000 Muslims that
Day in D.C.

PRAYER TIME WITH THE MUSLIMS


On August 13th, 2010 The Muslim Barack Obama held a Muslim prayer meeting and meting with Muslims in the White House, during the speech BO confirmed his commitment and agreement to build a MOSK at a site only 1.5 miles from Ground Zero

At least he is consitant supporting Muslims against the USA

I guess it Doesn't matter


If "Christians"
Are offended by this event -
We obviously
Don't count as
"anyone" Anymore.

The direction
This country is headed
Should strike fear in the heart of every Christian,
Especially knowing that the
Muslim religion believes that if Christians cannot be
Converted, they should be annihilated.

This is not a Rumor ?
Go to the website
To confirm this info:
( http://www.islamoncapitolhill.com/ )

Pay particular attention to the very bottom of the page:
"OUR TIME HAS COME"
I hope that this information will stir your spirit.

The words of 2 Chronicles 7:14
"If my people, Who are called by my Name,
Will humble themselves And pray,
And seek my face, and Turn from their Wicked ways,
Then will I hear from Heaven
And will forgive their Sin and will heal Their land."

We must pray for Our nation, our communities,
Our families, and especially our children.
They are the ones who are going to suffer the most.
.
If we don't PRAY
May God have Mercy.
IN GOD WE TRUST.


Posted by: tanamerah1 | August 18, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Yenta1, thanks. This is an election year and the GOP has to rile up their base so they will go to the polls.

The only good thing about it, is the gays aren't the target this election year. Usually they are the objects of hate during election years. Nobody cares about Feminazis, or Secular Humanist anymore. Maybe gay bashing has jumped the shark too.

Posted by: alfredo_tomato | August 18, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Rustychalice,

"AMERICAN MUSLIMS celebrating in the streets in Patterson NJ. Not to mention around the world celebrating like they had just won the World Cup."

Those "Muslims" you mentioned turned out to be some young Israelis. They were deported.

The person who called the police on them thought they were Arabs. That's how that story got started. The photos showing them smiling as the buildings burned showed them to be of Euro descent.

The Muslims dancing in the streets were mostly kids hamming for the camera. If you've ever lived in that part of the world you'd know how kids follow foreigners around and love to play for the camera. I bet some were trying to bum cigarettes or spare change.

If you remember, Iran was the first country to come out and denounce the attacks. There were public memorials all over Iran. Other Muslim nations came out and condemned the attacks.

Osama is a Wahhabi, do some research on how the Wahhabi are viewed in the Muslim world. They are an ultra conservative branch of the Sunni. The Saudi Royals are Wahhabi.

Posted by: alfredo_tomato | August 18, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

There were plenty of Muslims killed on 9/11--as others have pointed out.

With all the problems this country has, this so called "issue" has just been something cooked up by the extreme right. Muslims have just as much right in this country to pray where they want to pray. By the way, I am Jewish and support the government staying out of this business. You know, if you oppose a mosque somewhere, next they will be opposing a church or a synagogue somewhere. There is already a mosque near the WTC site. I do not see this as a big deal at all. I do support the real Constitution and real American values--and not the reprehensibe right wing stoking of prejudice. Right wingers always claim they want more liberty for people. Then they want to regulate where you can put a mosque and who can have an abortion. Of course, they never claim to be consistent.

Posted by: yenta1 | August 18, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

rustychalice

Very well said. Thank you!

Posted by: jgfox39 | August 18, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

258 American Muslims died in the attack on the towers and a Mosque in the WTC was also distroyed that day. The double tragety is that since then we have come under attack by our own country and government for something that has nothing to do with our faith. Alqaida does not respresent out faith, Islam. The error here is those who have lied and smeared our faith for their political gain at the expense of dividing Americans against ourselves. Seems they have more in common with the masterminds of 9-11 than those they accuse.

Posted by: Hosein | August 18, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

258 American Muslims died in the attack on the towers and a Mosque in the WTC was also distroyed that day. The double tragety is that since then we have come under attack by our own country and government for something that has nothing to do with our faith. Alqaida does not respresent out faith, Islam. The error here is those who have lied and smeared our faith for their political gain at the expense of dividing Americans against ourselves. Seems they have more in common with the masterminds of 9-11 than those they accuse.

Posted by: Hosein | August 18, 2010 1:48 PM | Report abuse

The previous poster was right - there are American Muslims and we should remember that.

I remember it vivdly. Specifically on 9/11 when 3000+ American were slain in the most savage of attacks there were AMERICAN MUSLIMS celebrating in the streets in Patterson NJ. Not to mention around the world celebrating like they had just won the World Cup.

You're right - we should remember.

Posted by: rustychalice | August 18, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Go to the Coronado Initiative website.In particular, look at their creation-- the Islamic Index and their focus on Sharia law implemetation in non Muslim states. These elements of the Coronado Initiative, the organization that is attempting to have the mosque built, should become part of the national dialogue.

Posted by: wrightbev | August 18, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

jgfox39

I agree with you


I would like to declare to Nancy Pelosi right now that I oppose the location of the mosque and I am not getting any funding at all.

If Nancy Pelosi knows where I can get some funding, I would certainly be happy to accept it.

.

Posted by: SummerDreams | August 18, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

This is most assuredly NOT a matter defined by the First Amendment. Every time I read a comment by some soft headed American debating the fine points of the First Amendment and how it applies to the Lower Manhattan 'Mosque' it becomes almost comical.

The Lower Manhattan Mosque is being funded almost entirely by the Saudi government, in its never ending quest to export its brand of violent state sponsored cultural hegemony around the world. ( What? Did you think three guys on their camels in the Egyptian desert were paying for this monstrosity?) 'Petro-Islam' masquerades as a religion, but it's any but a 'religion'. And any country wishing to build a foreign mission inside the United States is obliged to obtain permission from the United States government - period.

The debate that should actually rage is do we really want this mosque to be constructed for intelligence issues? As with the German 9 11 mosque so much was learned and so many people were identified by the German police and intelligence authorities that it turned into a 'gold mine' or a 'whose who' of crazy Muslim nut jobs while it was up and running. Every crazy Muslim nut job in the world would want to visit the 9 11 Victory Mosque in Lower Manhattan and thus provide a rich tapestry of information for the FBI, DHS, NSA and the NYPD terrorist unit.

The First Amendment is not a joke. You simply cannot take just anything ideological ( especially if its state sponsored), call it a 'region' and hide under the First Amendment's cover. The framers of the first 10 Amendments( 12 actually ) to our constitution never intended the First Amendment to be so abused. And Petro-Islam? It's like what one Egyptian described it: 'Imagine Jimmy Swagart getting hundreds of billions of dollars and taking over all of Christianity.' Just remember, Petro-Islam's 'Jimmy Swagart' are the Wahhabists of the Saudi Royal Family.

Posted by: CEKennedy | August 18, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

This is not as complicated an issue as many make it out to be. Almost NO ONE is suggesting that they do not have the constitutional or legal right to build a mosque on ground zero, RATHER they should be sensistive enough not to do it. Anyone who doesn't recognize the difference between what is legally permissibile and what common sense dictates we should not do is obviously not very bright. I am legally allowed to be a racist or ultra-liberal war protester. Doesn't mean I should make racist comments on MLK day or protest the war at the grave sights of soldiers does it? So those advocating for the mosque at this site would say its okay for me to do these things because of my constitutional rights? REALLY?

And why won't this IMAM denounce HAMAS? He has refused to do so. BTW - don't hold your breath waiting for Saudi Arabia to allow a Christina Church to be built. Wake up people - this is a religion of INTOLERANCE and VIOLENCE! Honor killings anyone? The support from liberals for this religion's inhuname treatment of women and homosexuals is an unbelievable mystery to me.

Posted by: rustychalice | August 18, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Where to begin.

First, there is such a thing as American Muslims. That said, why are we discriminating against our own citizens. It is not a matter of us vs them. It is a matter of us vs those who seek to divide us.

Second, those who preach that we need strict constructivist judges on the courts should read the constitution.

Third, since when to be preface everything south of Canal St with "Ground Zero"?

Fourth, who among the objectors lives or ever has lived in NYC? Those who object are primarily the same people that say NYC isn't part of the real America. Well fine, then stay out of its business.

Posted by: Ecksley | August 18, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

It is election season BS, like the swift boaters, the Obama death panel, etc. Why is it OK to lie via the media because of an approaching election.

It is not a mosque. It is an islamic community center. The muslim equivalent of a YMCA.

The center will be installed in an existing building. No one is building middle eastern religious archetecture where the WTC once stood.

The location is 4 blocks from Ground Zero. Not really even visible from Ground Zero unless you look for it. The building used to house a Burlington Coat Factory.

The Ground Zero Mosque is a non issue that is being blown out of proportion with exaggerated lies as an under handed political ploy.

This is religious persecution. The same violation of human rights that the Pilgrims were escaping from. My ancestor helped to settle Boston and was thrown in the stockade because he disagreed with the Puritans. He was of Scottish and British descent. It is not the perogative of a political candidate to rewrite the Constitution to suit his opinions and agenda.

How did our campaign and election process become such a cesspool of liars and fools?

Posted by: mjoy | August 18, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Pelosi wants to investigate those funding opposition to the Mosque.

I fully support that position.

I oppose the Mosque and will work to get it moved … and I haven’t yet received any funding.

If Pelosi could provide a list ….yeah, yeah, … I know it’s against Freedom of Speech … but I need the money … I’ll be the first to send in an application.

And, probably the active groups have received the monies from TARP under various lovely names … “Coalition to Improve Downtown Manhattan” “Interfaith Coalition to Ensure Harmony” ... and I’m a taxpayer and should get my cut.


Posted by: jgfox39 | August 18, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I stand with President Obama, President Jefferson, and the Constitution of the United States of America.

Posted by: P4Potomac | August 18, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Does this mean that the new NRA community facilities which will include indoor pistol ranges should go forward, next to Columbine High School and Virginia Tech? After all, we know that the killers were not members of the NRA and do not represent the membership or firearm owners in general. These centers would be a place where people with differing views of gun ownership could meet to deepen understanding and tolerance for differing views.

Posted by: MikeMcLamara | August 18, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Pardon me if I shrug my shoulders. It's an election year. The demagogues are rabble rousing again. It's a time honored political tradition that really accomplishes little but some folks want to vent their frustrations. Once vented, the world will wag on as it usually does.

Posted by: Phyllis1753 | August 18, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

This is not as complicated an issue as many make it out to be. Almost NO ONE is suggesting that they do not have the constitutional or legal right to build a mosque on ground zero, RATHER they should be sensistive enough not to do it. Anyone who doesn't recognize the difference between what is legally permissibile and what common sense dictates we should not do is obviously not very bright. I am legally allowed to be a racist or ultra-liberal war protester. Doesn't mean I should make racist comments on MLK day or protest the war at the grave sights of soldiers does it? So those advocating for the mosque at this site would say its okay for me to do these things because of my constitutional rights? REALLY?

And why won't this IMAM denounce HAMAS? He has refused to do so. BTW - don't hold your breath waiting for Saudi Arabia to allow a Christina Church to be built. Wake up people - this is a religion of INTOLERANCE and VIOLENCE? Honor killings anyone? The support from liberals for this religion's inhuname treatment of women and homosexuals is an unbelievable mystery to me.

Posted by: rustychalice | August 18, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

ON almost every terrorism-related issue, Obama has sided with the muslims - and not with Americans.


Do we have to remind people that Obama gave a terrorist a lawyer ?? And that was even WITHIN the time period in which there had already been carved out a "public safety" exception to the Miranda ruling.


So Obama was essentially attempting to create NEW law and procedure by giving the terrorist a lawyer - not relying on existing law.

Obama is twisted - his versions of law are twisted - he is not adhering to the Constitution.


New York State has a "compelling interest" in carving out an exception to Freedom of Religion - one based on location, not on one's individual choice of religious beliefs. No one is changing anyone's personal beliefs with a location restriction.


Clearly, Obama AGAIN has chosen to side against the American people.


.

Posted by: SummerDreams | August 18, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

It is a non-story. We have an economy to save. We have people out of work, losing their homes, health insurance. We have a world to save from pollution and no new world saving jobs.

Posted by: jrubin998 | August 18, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

New York State should ban the locating of the mosque in a certain zone around Ground Zero.


Then the Courts can decide - the legal test is whether the State has a "compelling interest" in carving out an exception to Freedom of Speech.


No one is telling muslims they can NOT exercise their religion - no one is imposing a religion on an individual - ONLY the location is being challenged - individuals are free to worship outside of an area which Americans find OFFENSIVE.

ONE has to wonder what this Imam is up to - and why he refuses to compromise - it is all about what he wants to do - and he does not care about what the American people want or believe.


This is a bunch of crap that this person is trying to "build bridges" If he wants to build bridges, he can locate his mosque in Brooklyn -


In this case, the outreach is going to depend on him compromsing, not the victims of 9/11.

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Posted by: SummerDreams | August 18, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Lets not think for one minute that this President sides with Americans on this issue. I zsee no damage to the GOp on this issue. I see hypocrisy from the Left on religous freedom. The same group that is so policitcally correct that we can even say Christmas in a school anymorte or that sues to remove God from the Pleadge.

Barack...its just another Sharp stick in the eye, kick in the teeth, or relentless antagonizing attitude towards the American People. Of course, I am referring to your original comments on the mosque at ground zero. I refer to your pre feedback comments….not the after you “huddled up and figured out how to spin and lie comments” that seemingly always follow your swift kick in the teeth to most Americans nowadays.
Your orchestrated staff that only operates in the philosophy of bait and switch and lie after lie has again come to your rescue. To what result, is the question mark. My own belief is that after 19 months of polarizing every group that has a distinguishable belief by which they can be segregated and pitted against one another, casting aspersions upon those that that fall out of line with your view of what the country should like, and imposition of socialistic rule, I doubt that large numbers actually believe you don’t support the mosque.
From the late night parlor tricks craftily run by your fearless (and often willingly tone deaf) super majority leader’s jamming of legislation through without a care, to your abuse of executive authority . You have enabled the first steps towards the demise of freedom and along the way, created long lasting multi generational indebtedness for my kids and their kids. You never cease to amaze me.
Instead of transparency, you operate in the back rooms behind closed doors with a group of advisors that have documented beliefs in the writings of communists, redistributionist’s, and of course, union leaders. Together, you both contemplate and incorporate your national deception and plan the spinned roll out of your amateurish policy making.
Spin-after spin- after spin -after spin.
It’s been one very long and tiresome continuous cycle of politically motivated Bush bashing, ducking from the results and negative facts of your own policies, coupled with complete deception and nonstop mismanagement of the greatest country on earth…No Apology Needed.

So, keep cramming the stick in my eye if you must, keep punching the American Dream in the stomach, and Trampling the Constitution as you see fit. I appreciate it. You have shown us what the new democrat party looks like and what you really stand for. More importantly you have single handedly caused a revival of founding principles, re calibration of values, and a new generation of vehement freedom loving preservationists, loyal to America and all that it stands for ( pre Obama) galvanized to begin the long fight back to representative governance that is for the people by the people.


Posted by: carlhk1 | August 18, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

I work with more than several people who are Muslims. After 9/11 the men all started wearing NY Yankee ballcaps instead of turbans- when asked why, they said they were horrified by the events and wanted people to know that they love and honor this country, would never want harm to come to anyone, especially a fellow citizen. They continue to wear these caps TO THIS DAY. People are condemning an entire group for the actions of a small few. The media would have you believe that there is a terrorist under every bush and that they have an on-going jihad every day. That's not the way it works, or the Muslim community works. There are too many who don't understand how valuable our freedoms are. Hate the wrong-doer if you must, but not the town where he was born, or his brother, unless you have EVIDENCE to the contrary. If the money for the mosque comes from terrorist organizations, prove it and then cut off the money. But don't just say that's where the money comes from.
Because tomorrow, someone could just say your money comes fromn a money laundering business, without evidence, and your assets will be frozen. Won't happen to you, Mr./Ms. Citizen? That's what you are suggesting. Guilty before proof, guilty by association, guilty by religion and skin tone. Shame on you.

Posted by: poppysue85 | August 18, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

It is so insensitive of the Muslim community to even remotely try to build a Mosque in the proximity of ground Zero, isn’t there any other places? Is there no respect to the grieving 9/11 families, the truth is that it’s not really a mosque, in the inner Saudi Arabia circles, (I just assume that one way or the other they are the financiers behind this brilliant idea) it’s a symbol or Glory, a shrine to commemorate the Islam victory over the U.S. tyranny. Suddenly you hear the words the U.S Constitution, the freedom of speech, let’s start with adopting both with women rights. I really hope that the great Muslim community will give up this insulting project.

While I am in it, a great tragedy is happening in Pakistan, a flood zone in the size on England is harming millions of people, we should all contribute and help these people, in order for all of us to come together and save lives we would like to see the 1.2 billion Muslims doing so, Saudi Arabians, Iranians, Kuwaitis, most Muslim African countries, Indonesia, Malaysia and even Afghans, I have no doubt that for every dollar these people will give the suffering Pakistani flood victims, we’ll give two, regrettably whenever a disaster happens we hear nothing but the sound of silence, let the infidels save us.

Posted by: myerelazar | August 18, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Mahatma Gandhi writes in his Autobiography that Right and Duty go hand-in-hand. If one fails to perform his duty, his claim to his rights, lose its moral authority. It is call of the time and duty of every “moderate Muslim” 9if there are any) to condemn hard-line Islam with the utmost force. They need to speak against Wahabi ideology as loud as they can. But, none seem to be doing so. That makes one wonder whether this mosque is going to represent the iconic sword of Islam stabbed into the chest of non-believers, as some Muslims seem to think.
If Imam Rauf’s intention is to promote harmony between Muslims and Christians, he should take the mosques elsewhere. And above all, one wonders when millions of their Muslim brethrens in Pakistan are starving and suffering due to devastating flood and begging the world for food and money, this good Imam is spending 100 million dollars on a mosques, while over 10,000 mosques and Islamic centers already exist in USA, New York included.

Posted by: centerglobal | August 18, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

Whether the mosque is built or not, we will still be involved in at least one war that appears unlikely to end as we were told to expect when it began.
Whether the mosque is built or not, millions of Americans will be unemployed or facing foreclosure.
As long as we are arguing about the mosque, our attention is not on the far more serious issues facing this country and the Republicans won't have to take responsibility or propose serious solutions.
We need to change the subject.

Posted by: amstphd | August 18, 2010 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Pentagon opens 9-11 Memorial Chapel
By Staff Sgt. Nate Orme
ArmyLINK News
http://www.militaryinfo.com/news_story.cfm?textnewsid=75

September 18, 2002 - WASHINGTON, September 18, 2002 -- The Pentagon now has a place dedicated for peace and solace to sooth the spiritual inclinations of its thousands of military and civilian employees -- its own chapel.
(snip)
"This is the first large chapel at the Pentagon," Benson said. " It is the first time we've had a place large enough to conduct services, which will include Jewish, Christian and Islamic."
(snip)
Inside the chapel room, a stained glass window hangs near the chapel podium. In the shape of a pentagon, inside it are two crimson rings, made of 184 pieces representing lives lost. The rings encircle a bald eagle -- symbol of our nation, an olive branch representing our desire for peace, an American flag, and the Pentagon, representing the nation's defense. The words "United in Memory, September 11, 2001" memorialize the day the Pentagon was attacked.

Posted by: aahpat | August 18, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

The REAL issue is this: Will Muslims show us that they are respectful of the fact that this is Sacred Ground? Over 3,000 people died!
Muslims are free to practice their religion in the U.S.; they've built mosques all over this country.
The Real question is: Will Muslims be as respectful of this Sacred Ground, and accommodate America's/ N.Y. wishes?
If they are not, then we know they have a whole different agenda, with this 13-story
mosque/community center.

Posted by: ohioan | August 18, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

SPIEGEL ONLINE,

"Last week, authorities closed down the Hamburg mosque where three
9/11 hijackers once prayed. Despite intense surveillance, it was
still considered to be an epicenter of extremism. Now the Islamists
who gathered there are looking for a new home."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,711977,00.html

Posted by: semmi | August 18, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

in response to HER ARTICLE, I emailed this to Kathleen ...


Ms. Parker,

your perspective is MYOPIC.

the issue is not as parochial as your narrow view espouses.

on 9/11/01, the US of A was attacked by Muslims. The World Trade Centers I & II, suffered the brunt of these attacks. The Pentagon was hit, and Flight 93 had another governmental target in its sights until TRUE AMERICANS forced that flight to ABORT.

your column disrespects every American who suffered an internal pain at the mere prospect that such villainous enemies could effect such a disastrous result.

one could compare the feeling with that of 11/22/63 when our President was assassinated.

to permit "other" muslims to erect a monument to their ? religion ? is to ignore the extent of CELEBRATION in muslim countries around the globe on that date. they celebrated a VICTORY over the US of A on 9/11/01.

the proposed mosque is to be a tribute to that victory.

how many American muslims denounced those celebrations???

how many American muslims joined those celebrations???

I suggest that you retract your column and instead advocate for a RETURN to the WAR ON TERRORISM, which still lives, despite the verbal avoidance by this Socialist administraton.

history will judge Obama, regardless of how liberals define it. you will be one of many co-conspirators whose conduct undermines the Constitution and the intent of its framers.

SHAME ON YOU!

Posted by: esquire2 | August 18, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

This is a real low for America. Not to allow a mosque in New York, where there are other place of worship for jews and christians is plain discrimination.
It is not the religion which carried out 9/11 resulting in the loss of three thousand people,many among them muslims. It was the bad foreign policy and the aggression of US against muslim all over the world which brought this catastrophe on NY.
Change the foreign policy of US and stop meddling in the affairs of muslim countries. That's the lesson America should learn,rather than blame Muslims and Islam.

Posted by: syedahaq2000 | August 18, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

Various pols have made statements supporting the Islamic center as an example of the freedoms granted by our constitution, taking care also to cite such facts such as that the proposed construction is not adjacent to Ground Zero, other establishments to which some citizens might object already exist in the area, etc. A real test of their dedication to the Constitution would be whether they would publicly support such a building at the the Ground Zero site. They are fortunate not to have to make such a decision.

Posted by: CMNC | August 18, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Bush would have handled this entire situation much better without controversy and at the same time demonstrated his leadership abilities.

Posted by: saelij | August 18, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I can see both sides of the issue and I agree with President Obama's comments. I really believe though, out of "respect", the mosque should be built at another location. It isn't like Americans don't want mosques to be built, as there are plenty of them around. Thus the tolerance aspect of this whole thing has been solved as far a mosques being built in America. But again, out of respect, and sensitivity, I think the Islamic community in this case, should reconsider.

Posted by: golden0816 | August 18, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

It is easy to talk of constitution and rights. But it the very constitution and rules framed under constitution resulted in the murder of thousands of innocent lives. Those who were killed also had life security guaranteed under constitution but did not get it. No one is talking about the kith and kin of those who died and their sentiments. There is no need to build one more mosque to create harmony when the remaining 100 Mosques could not do it. It is in the best interests of everyone not to build the same near Ground Zero spot. Why create national debate unnecessarily at this time of crisis in the country. It is not a priority.

Posted by: ganeshan | August 18, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

The good Christians from Westboro Baptist Church show up at funerals for American soldiers killed in the wars with signs that say "Thank God for 9/11!" If we are to paint all Muslims as terrorists shouldn't we also paint all Christians as supporters of 9/11?

Posted by: Trakker | August 18, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse


KNOW YOUR ENEMY


“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith but to become dominant.
The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.”

Omar M. Ahmad, founder of CAIR


Posted by: AJAX2 | August 18, 2010 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Pelosi is nowcoming out and saying she thinks the the funders of the opponents should be investigated, she needs to be drug tested.


Posted by: marbie4me | August 18, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Fully support the Constitutional rationale for this but the 'common sense' rule is what will probably prevail. But then the 'argument' serves to divert attention from a failing economy, two lost wars, a Gulf Coast in disarray and other policies that serve to further divide the Nation.

Posted by: KBlit | August 18, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Land of the free home of the brave? Not if we let the faux news propaganda machine and it's money keep scaring the lesser educated Americans. Mexicans are taking your jobs and dropping anchor babies,two men with a stick equals a new black panther party, highly decorated war heroes who happen to be gay should be eliminated, stem cell research kills babies, helping Americas middle class will bankrupt us only giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy people who bought the GOP can save us,anyone who is not a white Christian is part of the Real America, Our commander in chief is from a foreign land Hawaii and his being mixed race makes him a raciat. Be afraid be very afraid the primary tactic of the Nazis and now the GOP. real Americas know diversity is our strength and that plenty of Muslims, Latinos, African Americans etc. Have shed their blood on the battlefields. First they came for then they came for thankfully the majority of Americans are not weak kneed mambi pambi pliable dunces like say Dubya,Sarah,Newt,et al. God bless the real Americans, God bless our landslide elected commander in chief, God bless the free and the brave in their struggle against the GOP and its propaganda machine. OBAMANOS!

Posted by: jbento | August 18, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I think that if you do not believe in and support the Constitution of this country you should find a country that suits your values. We let a Christian Church stand next to the Federal Court House in Oklahoma City brought down by the bomb of a Christian Church. We let them stand in the South where leaders of some of churches wore pointy hats and bombed, hanged and otherwise murdered black Americans. We are letting them stand where they use them to preach hate against gay people. The consitution stands. In this instance Al Qaeda, not mainstream muslims bombed the Towers. Muslims died in the towers and rushed there to help among the first responders. Try to suck it up and remember that you are Americans and put our constitutional values first. The victims in Oklahoma City did.

Posted by: withersb | August 18, 2010 11:20 AM | Report abuse

There's nothing wrong with building a mosque (or cultural center) at that location. However, as commonsense dictates, when a family member commits a hideous crime, the members of that family –even though innocent - will have the decorum of not building a family monument near the victims’ gravesite.

Posted by: voice02 | August 18, 2010 11:16 AM | Report abuse

There's nothing wrong with building a mosque (or cultural center) at that location. However, as commonsense dictates, when a family member commits a hideous crime, the members of that family –even though innocent - will have the decorum of not building a family monument near the victims’ gravesite.

Posted by: voice02 | August 18, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

One question I haven't seen addressed: were there any Muslim victims in the twin towers or Pentagon on 9/11? I suspect that there were, and if so, then nobody should have anything to say about whether or not this community center/mosque/whatever should be built because this simply isn't a case of "us" vs. "them" as it's being portrayed: "us" happens to include Muslims.

In addition, I've seen some articles about the other things that are just as close to "ground zero" like liquor stores and strip joints, which makes this controversy all the more ridiculous.

Posted by: MrDarwin | August 18, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Just why is it "insensitive" or "wrong" to build a mosque a the site suggested? The answer inevitably requires the implicit premise that somehow all Muslims were responsible in some way for 9/11. You cannot reach the conclusion without that unstated and false premise. So the charges of bigotry are fair and confirmed. This is anti-Muslim hatred hiding behind false logic. Everlasting shame to the haters who are perpetrating this.

Posted by: mmurray2 | August 18, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Of course it won't hurt the Republicans. The bottom line is that while the law is clear that the Muslims have the legal right to build it, it is an affront to the American people. Other than for people working in mainstream newsrooms, that is the predominant position. The Republicans will run with this issue and it will be effective for them. Especially considering that one of the individuals representing the mosque stated that the USA brought 9/11 on by its behavior and that Hamas, killer of women and children in pizza restaurants and discos, is not a terrorist group. If a Rabbi equivocated on Baruch Goldstein or a minister on Timothy McVeigh, and such parties were seeking to establish houses of worship, I doubt the Washington Post and NYT would be their champion.

Posted by: pella5 | August 18, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Bigotry and hatred are the ONLY things the GOP has to offer.

Posted by: thomasmc1957 | August 18, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Why the compulsion on the part of so many to support yet another religious tax-free building in the US? I don't object to a mosque any more than a Lutheran church but, one has to admit, the US needs another religious outlet like it needs another federal employee.
There doesn't appear to be any limiting factor to the number of these taxpayer-supported structures now - or in the past. They metasticize apace. So what's the big worry?

Posted by: Davidd1 | August 18, 2010 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I think it will harm the democrats. You have now Pelosi coming out saying she thinks the the funders of the opponents should be investigated, thus in an attempt to discourage free speech.. How low will the left sink?

Posted by: scoran | August 18, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

I am sensitive about guns and highly sensitive at that.

Guns have killed more innocent people in this country than the 911 attacks could ever do. What happened to those who were killed by the Muslim terrorist attacks on 9/11 is no different to me than those who have been innocently killed by gun wielding (individual's and gang's) terrorists in this country; and my heart aches for all who have been killed and senseless murdered by both.

It's unfortunate; however, because there is a price that we all have to pay because of angry hostile people that run rampant in the country and around the world.

As Gun loving Conservatives would say, "Guns don't kill people, people do", I could say the same thing about an Islamic Mosque and/or Recreational Center, and that is "Islamic Mosque don't kill people, people do".

See the irony in all of this.

People kill people; regardless, of their religion, their race, or ethnicity.

People kill people.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | August 18, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

it would be naive of anyone not to believe that the FBI,NSA, and what other agency is at our disposal would not be monitoring that group and its future facility. so go ahead build it if you can, but becareful their watching you. the old adage keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

Posted by: jfwest | August 18, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Do not allow this building, because

1. Funding this building will almost definitely include supporters of the Wahabi sect that has encouraged terrorism
2. The leaders of this mosque have not condemned terrorists, so their other views must be treated accordingly, and people should not be deluded by empty promises. Ahmenijad may be invited to speak at this community center, threatening public safety,
3. Iran will probably contribute to this mosque while threatening with nuclear weapons

Concerns about how this affects GOP are ridiculous compared with the serious issues involved. Move this building elsewhere.

Frank

Posted by: FrankOC | August 18, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

If the Mosque can't stand, should the church next to the Alfred P. Murrah bomb site be allow to stand? McVeigh was Catholic. Where does it end?

Posted by: cenicero | August 18, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

I have seen the aged Muslims in my suburban locality use to offer prayer to the almighty simply on Open field. During my life till 64 years now these wise men are following the same practice. They told me on seeking to the reason, that you cannot bind almighty by walls and place under roof. It will be a foolish attempt to build a Mosque for the purpose. In the present case building a mosque in a prominent place is nothing but to raise falls pride and dominency in a state of 'inferiority complex', which is again is a false imagination.

Posted by: basab19 | August 18, 2010 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I have seen the aged Muslims in my suburban locality use to offer prayer to the almighty simply on Open field. During my life till 64 years now these wise men are following the same practice. They told me on seeking to the reason, that you cannot bind almighty by walls and place under roof. It will be a foolish attempt to build a Mosque for the purpose. In the present case building a mosque in a prominent place is nothing but to raise falls pride and dominency in a state of 'inferiority complex', which is again is a false imagination.

Posted by: basab19 | August 18, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Bad for the GOP? The vast majority are against the bad taste of the placement of the place. Obama now opens his mouth and throws gas on it, dividing his own party. It's bad for the Jackasses, Nancy can't even stand being asked about it.

Posted by: arby1 | August 18, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

I know all I need to know about Islam. Besides, we already have a cultural center in Manhattan; Ground Zero.

Posted by: 42itus1 | August 18, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Doug, you ignorant person ~ the site for the Mosque IS Ground Zero.

This very site saw the under carriage of ATTA's plane hit it, and that included an engine.

People just working in their offices were swept up as the plane blew through the WTC and their vital bodily fluids and pieces of their flesh ended up in and on that building.

In short THAT BUILDING is as much GROUND ZERO as any other building severely damaged in the attack.

By taking your pro-Mosque On The Graves position you are identifying yourself as a particularly insensitive and ghoulish individual who'd be better off locked up in St. Elizabeths than running about terrorizing innocent people.

Posted by: muawiyah | August 18, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Team Obama, and now even Queen Nancy Pelosi, seem to be doing an unreal job of cutting their own throats. They really need no help.

Independents and republicans only need to stand by and clean up the mess starting on November 3!

Posted by: wheeljc | August 18, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

9/11-based opposition to the Islamic center would vanish if Muslim "leaders" would show some guts (http://www.twf.org/News/Y2010/0803-Fear.html) and speak out about the fatally flawed "9/11 Commission Report" (http://www.twf.org/News/News911.html). They're missing this unique opportunity to assert the truth about 9/11. If they did they would find that many Americans support them.

Enver Masud
Founder, The Wisdom Fund

Posted by: twforg | August 18, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

The question now is Obama and the Mosque - not just the Mosque alone.
The President tossed his hat on the ring and there is no way to take it back.
It proves that Obama has without question a big mouth; but when he uses it often, 24/7, and in both sides of the mouth, it becomes an uncontrollable force that is bound to prove a bounty of galvanizing idiocy to great gain to his opponents and detractors........

.....or, to "The Good, the bad, and the Ugly" at http://www.robbingamerica.com A little political satire and fun with a lot of truth in it.

Posted by: JohnGalt9 | August 18, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

IS THE WASHINGTON POST NEWS PAPER LOST IT'S WAY? THE ONLY ONE HARMED BEYOND REPAIR BY THE MOSQUE REMARKS IS OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS. ACCORDING TO THE LATEST POLLS OBAMA AND THE DEM'S ARE DAMAGED GOODS AND WILL NEVER BE REPAIRED. THE TRUTH IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS NOW IN SERIOUS TROUBLE WITH THE AMRICAN PUBLIC, SO SERIOUS THAT IT COULD BE WIPED OUT IN THE NOVEMBER ELECTION, A MINORITY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE. THE AMERICAN PUBLIC INCLUDING MILLIONS OF DEMOCRATS THINK OBAMA IS FINISHED AND HAS NO CHANCE TO BE RELECTED, HE IS NOT EVEN HATED OVERSEAS, CAN YOU SPELL TOAST.

Posted by: Richie5 | August 18, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Erase religion from people's minds and there wouldn't be a problem here.

Posted by: LifeBeforePrinciple | August 18, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

Our media is keeping this issue alive and stirred with their intentional deciets. It is not a mosque. It is less than the length of two football fields from Ground Zero.

Posted by: kesac | August 18, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

This center is not a mosque any more than a YMCA or YMHA is a church or synagogue. Neither is it, as many of the Post's columnists assert, called "Cordoba House".

But the Post continues to embrace inflammatory terminology trotted out by the right.

Posted by: Itzajob | August 18, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

This would be something like another Jerusalem. Something like this happened centuries ago. The Muslims built a mosque on the temple grounds. And that was after they conquered the place. I believe it would send the same message.

Posted by: wasabipr | August 18, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I volunteered and joined the Army, and I served as an 11B Infantryman. Most of my time in the field was in squad or platoon size operations. We would have discussions about what we were fighting for. It always came back to the “Bill of Rights”. To me the most important was “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”

Posted by: lynnlm | August 18, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I volunteered and joined the Army, and I served as an 11B Infantryman. Most of my time in the field was in squad or platoon size operations. We would have discussions about what we were fighting for. It always came back to the “Bill of Rights”. To me the most important was “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”

Posted by: lynnlm | August 18, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

It's simple: The Republicans and others who use this as an election issue (including Senator Reid, unfortunately) are lying or misunderstand the situation:

The Ground Zero Mosque is neither a Mosque (it's a Cultural Center) nor is it at Ground Zero.

This has become another excuse for bigotry & Hypocrisy in our politics.

Enough already!

Posted by: fridrikr1 | August 18, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

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