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Posted at 7:47 AM ET, 11/24/2010

Jeff Fisher: Vince Young can get treatment but not attend meetings, practices

By Cindy Boren

Tennessee Titans Coach Jeff Fisher confirmed a Nashville report that he told Vince Young to leave the team's facility Monday when the quarterback arrived at the building the day after he walked out of the locker room because of an incident involving Fisher.

Young was not banned from the facility, according to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, but is no longer welcome at position meetings, practices and games.Young has been placed on the season-ending injured-reserve list after tearing the flexor tendon in his thumb in the Titans' overtime loss to the Washington Redskins.

"There has been speculation that he has been banned," Fisher said. "That is not correct." Players cannot be banned; injured players typically come in for treatments and rehab. Fisher did, however, say Monday that Young would not be starting Sunday even if he were healthy.

"Tennessean reports indicating that Vince Young is not welcome at Baptist Sports Park are incorrect," the Titans said in a statement. "Yesterday, he was informed by a coach at the facility not to attend Monday's team meeting and was free to leave. The intention was to be able to talk to the team about Young's situation and how the team would move forward. Players that are on injured reserve are not required to attend team meetings.

"As of today, [Young] has been placed on injured reserve and all the same rules apply to him as to any other player in that category."

Young and Fisher exchanged words in the locker room Sunday because Young, frustrated that Fisher did not play him after he hurt his thumb, had thrown his pads and jersey into the stands. As Fisher addressed the team, Young muttered under his breath, then began to walk out. Fisher told him he was walking out on his teammates and Young said, "I'm not running out on my teammates, I'm running out on you.''

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By Cindy Boren  | November 24, 2010; 7:47 AM ET
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I hope Young is being treated - it sounds like manic depression or something similar- maybe he is and went off his meds. At any rate-he is not in a position to dictate to Jeff Fisher- and he was hurt- Fisher did thing smart thing both for the team and for Young. Fisher has enough to do without having to be the boy's mommy.

Posted by: poppysue85 | November 24, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Vince Young is a talented but immature athlete. He would do well to spend some time with Donovan McNabb who was humiliated by his coach but kept his head - and his mouth shut - and kept his job.

Posted by: Trakker | November 24, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

wow. 30% support Young? No wonder there is so much crime and disease in the world. Apparently 30% of us are completely devoid of any moral compass or sense of honor and decency. Of course Young is in the wrong. But that doesn't mean people should be hating on him. He needs help and probably medication.

Posted by: mordrud | November 24, 2010 9:38 AM | Report abuse

Oh, please! manic depression my patootie. What in the world, pray tell, has this guy got to be depressed about? He's been coddled his entire life, probably has money dripping off him and an entourage telling him he's "Da Man" 24/7

As a result Vince thinks he's entitled to act like the prima donna he's become. As players are wont to tell us everytime their contract is up and they're trying to get more money for their services, Football is a Business. Jeff Fischer is the manager of this particular business and he handled this immature whiner exactly as he should have.

Posted by: lobo404 | November 24, 2010 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Getting paid millions of dollars to play a ball game. Tough gig. Not to criticize them for not really contributing notably to society-- most people don't-- but they get paid better than most for what they do. Please don't call them "warriors." Soldiers who actually place their lives on the line, and for very little pay, are warriors. Athletes are basically in the entertainment industry. Nothng wrong with that. I'd do it if I could.

Posted by: Sutter | November 24, 2010 9:51 AM | Report abuse

I agree mordrud. When I clicked the poll, I expected less than 10% for Young, and was shocked to see 37%! Young is one of those that has the physical skills, but doesn't seem willing to put the work in to be a great player.

And lobo404, manic-depression has nothing to do with normal depression. It's not like he can go to namby-pamby land and get some self confidence. It's more commonly called bi-polar disorder and is a mental illness and has nothing to do with whether you have something to "be depressed about". That being said, I don't know enough to know if he's bi-polar or just an idiot!

Posted by: drfunknsoul | November 24, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

Vince Young is a wonderful example of a young athlete who has always been the center of attention and likely has gotten everything he wanted. Well, welcome to life. Despite being vastly overpaid and made a sports celebrity, in reality you are just one more human being, and now with an injured thumb.

Posted by: JohnRice | November 24, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Vince is like a hot chick who is 'disturbed'

You dig her til her 'crazy' comes out, then you wonder 'how the efff did I wind up with this nut?'

He can always go back to Texas and coach. Or join Ryan Leaf in the QB Witness Protection Program

Posted by: kahlua87 | November 24, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Ya know...if the Jason Garrett thing doesn't work out, Fisher could be a pretty good fit w/ the Cowgirls; provided he could get away from TN.

Posted by: nonsensical2001 | November 24, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Some of us remeber VY from that national championship team from of all places texas (with a little t, I guess I'm messin' with texas, and find it hard to beleive he just morphed into a bad guy. I don't, however, have a hard time seeing how Fisher has worked to malign and demoralize him every chance he's gotten. I find that puzzling B/C I think he's a fine coach. In the end, they need to part ways, for some strange reason they bring out the worst in each other.

Posted by: numba5 | November 24, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Vince Young does not have what it takes to be an elite QB like Farve, Roethlisberger, or Vick, until he either sends pornographic pictures of his privates while his wife is getting treatment for breast cancer, rapes someone (allegedly), or goes out and kills a few dogs. Vince is so not ready for prime time. his behavior is very minor league at best, throwing equipment in the stands is so very amateur if he is going to an immature elite athlete he is going to have to work on his "game". He is just not progressing or putting in the work to come up with big league moves like the big names. Vince is not a role model, at least not yet. He needs to be mentored by guys like Tiger, Ray Lewis, Charles Barkley those guys "get it".

Posted by: duffytomduffy | November 24, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

VY wasn't emotionally or mentally mature enough to enter the NFL when he did. Completing his senior year and his degree as he always said he would do might have done him a world of good.

Posted by: West3 | November 24, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Manic depression is a clinical condition and is extremely serious. It is, unfortunately, bandied about in general conversation to the extent that it can become frivolous. I have no idea if Vince Young is manic depressive, bipolar, psychotic or simply a self-aggrandizing, overpaid athlete. His actions, however, are not those of a professional.

Posted by: charlie-s | November 24, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Vince Young represents the current generation of, not just young athletes but of young adults as well. They tend to be significantly self-absorbed, self-centered, with a sense of entitlement that isn't warranted by anyone who has yet to prove themselves capable of contributing at their respective professions.

The best thing for him would be to have someone who will stand up to him, and tell him that he's NOT the best player on the planet and that if he doesn't want to do what is required of the team and coach, then he's out of a job.

Unfortunately, Bud Adams likely would can Fisher before cutting Young. Which only manages to reinforce a bad message to the younger generation of self-entitlers.

Posted by: mika_england | November 24, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

I agree with everyone about the poll and more specifcally with 'West3'. Young was not and IS STILL NOT mature enough to be in the NFL. You play terrible, the crowd boo's you, and you wave your hands in the air to egg them on? He's not a professional and never will be. He's a waste of a contract.

@duffytomduffy-Vick elite?! Far from it. He's had a few good weeks. So what? He has to WIN and play a little more before you can classify him as such. Pretty much, he has to win a championship.

Posted by: jtorre9 | November 24, 2010 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Bud Addams is going to lose both Young and Fisher over this.

The difference is the Fisher can pick up the pieces and be a winner again.

Vince has a long way to go unless he grows up some.

Posted by: Rockman2 | November 24, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Vince Young would do well to spend some time with both Mike Vick and Donovan McNabb. Mike Vick so someone could say to him, "Brother, I've been you. And look where it got me." Then Donovan could teach him how to be a professional. Vince has all the physical skills in the world. He doesn't have the mental game. I hope he can develop it. Jeff Fisher is in the right here.

Posted by: WickedRose | November 24, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Vince Young needs to grow up and show that he's an adult with adult responsibilities. Jeff Fisher needs to nip things in the bud before it blows up like this. In fact, all coaches need to make these players aware that theere are other players on the team that would love to start in your place and, if the team is going to lose anyway, put them in and let the prima dona's ride the bench!

Posted by: burnie4241 | November 24, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

The other day several sports commentators of color basically trashed Fisher and supported Youngs side of the story without question.
Fisher was guilty until proven innocent. So much for diversity training.
I'm white and supporting Fisher. He is the head coach and he decides who plays. Sorry thats sports.
Mr Young has had a miriad of excuses since his almost suicidal incident a few years ago. This is a mommas boy who has learned to cry loud to get what you want. And being black you can point fingers too.
I'm tired of it all.

Posted by: DirtyErnie | November 24, 2010 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I agree with Fisher. He's the coach, he makes the decisions.

Unfortunately, I can see why Young is getting away with this. At the first sign of real trouble for Young, he'll run to the player's union and make a big stink (which I'm shocked he hasn't already done).

Young is acting like a spoiled, entitled brat. He needs to man up and do what his coach - his supervisor - tells him. Otherwise, get out.

Posted by: mssnatchquatch | November 24, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I guess most people realize they don't have the talent to be an NFL quarterback but can still identify with Coach Fisher. The coach has plainly mishandled the situation, and I remind you all it was widely reported earlier this year that he's known for running a dirty team that incites fights. I don't see why you give him the benefit of the doubt. Both are in the wrong.

Posted by: Hopeful9 | November 24, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Yes, nothing to do with manic depression. A simple case of yet another low class loser who thinks, just because he makes a lot of money, he does not need to answer to anyone.

Yes, no moral compass and no respect for authority. Basically Vince is a punk and his baby act is yet another reason why it is increasingly difficult to watch pro sports. Too many overpaid punks without the class and character one might expect from someone making $200K per game.

Posted by: jackson641 | November 24, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

VY is just another high expectation first round never was, done in by the curse od the Madden cover. But, the Titans know full well that can't ban a player from the facility, they learned that lesson with Steve McNair...

Posted by: ozpunk | November 24, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't hire VY to trim bushes...because I know he would whine the whole time. VY is/was a failed experiment only because he would not control his behavior. Give him his hankie and send his butt packing.

Posted by: jbeeler | November 24, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Bring Vince Young to the Redskins. He can get healthy, work under the tutelege of Donovan McNabb, and become the All Pro quarterback that he has the potential to be. His character is certainly no worse than Michael Vick's before his comeback with the Eagles.

Posted by: Viewpoint2 | November 24, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Would love to see the racial breakdown of respondents who voted on this poll. How in God's name did Vince Young garner more than 10% of the vote, much less 30%???

Posted by: Barno1 | November 24, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Manic depression (bipolar disorder) is a serious issue that is not to be taken lightly. For a semi-autobiographical account of a young man's descent into madness, please check out the following link:

Posted by: petersklynch | November 24, 2010 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Here for doing all your homework instead of half. For the vy fans trust me fisher is not soley to blame and thats not what my blog is about, everyone has already covered vince being at fault so I covered fisher and still have plenty more on him. One last thing for you people saying owners should stay out of it, first off he is the owner which makes him boss. Second if it wasnt for bud adams twice now including last seasons 0-6 the titans wouldn have ended as good as they did. The mans just looking out for his team, although some of it is him wanting vince to start in the first place. So far what adams has seen is when things go fishers way, we have just an ok record if not bad. When they go bud's way ( starting vince) the record is ok to good. But again if you dont wanna pay attention to all going on its ok. Just know what you have to say is not credible.

Posted by: theofficialtriforce | November 26, 2010 3:40 AM | Report abuse

Vince young comes in and has made the pro bowl twice saved fishers job twice and for alot of this season held the top spot in passer ratings for all you saying he isnt good. And for you who say he doesnt work hard or try then you complement him. Must be nice to have the win to loss ratio and qb rating he has and not try. Jeff fisher in his time has no super bowls either so for you saying thats what it takes for vince to be noticed fisher should be held to the same standard. In 16 years fisher averages .500 seasons, not a stat I think an elite coach would have. Has not won a playoff game since 2003. Vince young is young and imature. Jeff fisher is old and imature. Jeff fisher wants to tell vince young not to walk out on his team but lets think back to last year when fisher made a "joke" and wore mannings jersey saying I just wanna feel like a winner. jeff fisher tells his team to be professional and keep quiet about vince young but tehn goes and blabs his mouth everywhere.

Posted by: theofficialtriforce | November 26, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

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