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United, to a point - washingtonpost.com_1259611816505.jpegAccording to the new Washington Post poll, a plurality of Republicans consider Sarah Palin the "one person [who] best reflects the core values of the Republican Party" and a full 76 percent of Republicans do not think Barack Obama "stand[s] for traditional American values." And thus does America spin off into the brink ...

By Ezra Klein  |  November 30, 2009; 3:29 PM ET
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i suppose the really interesting question is what those self-described republicans think "traditional american values" comprise.

for example, insofar as "traditional american values" means this is a country for white men to run, this is a christian country, this is an anti-intellectual country (all "traditional american values" in my mind), then yes, obama does not stand for traditional american values, and these people are perfectly accurate.

Posted by: howard16 | November 30, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

And TPM reports that 48% of Rush listeners and 35% of Beck viewers think Palin is the best person to represent the Republican Party. Scary.

Posted by: scott1959 | November 30, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Thats one way to interpret the poll, a more rational reading here is that a plurality actually says "none of the above" as implied by both "other" and "no opinion" combined.

But for what its worth, I think the 18% who identify Palin as emblematic of the GOP of 2009 are exactly right:

1. Fundamentalist religious beliefs
2. Hostility to reason of almost any kind.
3. Proud and even willful stupidity.
4. Most animated about dividing up the country into sects of "real Americans" and "those people".
5. Willingness to lie, about even the most minute and provable detail, and fortunate beneficiary of a public with short term memory.

Palinism really is the standard of the GOP today. Unfortunately for Barack Obama, he wont get lucky enough to have her as the nominee opposite him in 2012.

Posted by: zeppelin003 | November 30, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Or rather "Over 51% of Republicans agree that neither Palin, McCain, Huckabee, Romney and Cheney do not best reflect the core values of the Republican Party"

Posted by: jeirvine | November 30, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I am a liberal, health care reform lovin' RN from uber blue Maryland and George Bush is only polling on point higher than me!

Posted by: cminmd1 | November 30, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

It's my prediction that Klein, et al., will assiduously continue to work to keep Palin's name in the pubic eye, and, as the 2012 election draws near, gradually begin to "admit" that she is a "serious" candidate, worthy of deliberation and consideration (at least on the GOP side), when, at the appropriate time, the New York Times and Boston Globe will endorse her candidacy (on the GOP side), just before they unearth various rumors (murkily sourced) of tawdriness, bumpkinhood, and unsophistication.

At least she won't bow before the various despots of the world.

Posted by: msoja | November 30, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

*just before they unearth various rumors (murkily sourced) of tawdriness, bumpkinhood, and unsophistication.*

"unearth"? When were they "earthed"?

Posted by: constans | November 30, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

If you look at the poll numbers, only 319 of the 1,306 people polled are leaning Republicans -- that's 24%. Of that 24%, 18% think Sarah Palin is the best representative of core Republicanism -- that's 18% x 24% = about 4% of the polled persons.

Big deal.

Posted by: ostap666 | November 30, 2009 5:59 PM | Report abuse


I did think about putting that in quotes.

Posted by: msoja | November 30, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse

That graphic and the organization of the Republican Primaries is why we have such incredibly bad candidates for persident fron that oparty. Were the numerous drawves who always start out candidates for presisdent to make it through the Florida Primary, SP would be the overwhelming leader on delegate votes, to be seconded and nominated once texas has voted.

With the backing of just 18% of the Republican Party.

Take that plurality into the general election and you have a LOT of work to do to do as well as barry did in 64.

Go Sarah GO!

Posted by: ceflynline | November 30, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse

"We spin off into the brink..." Fer cryin' out loud, you are getting your underpants into such a twist over normal, democratic dissent. Which you simply cannot stand, as a pre-communist. Yes, all must agree, we must all be united, ein volk. Not everyone agrees with you or the adminstration. Should they be jailed for it? I guess so.

Posted by: truck1 | November 30, 2009 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Look at the choices you get. They're all corporatists except for Sarah Palin. Given those choices even I would be tempted to pick the moron.

Posted by: bmull | December 1, 2009 1:17 AM | Report abuse

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