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The administration is raising expectations for Thursday's summit, not lowering them. At the same time, I'm hearing from Democratic Hill staffers who are upset that the White House hasn't given them a clearer idea of what the president wants to accomplish at the summit, or offered much guidance on what their strategy should be.

This should be interesting.

By Ezra Klein  |  February 23, 2010; 2:01 PM ET
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I'd foolishly imagined this was choreographed between the White House and the congressional dems, because not to do so would be stupid.

We need presidential leadership


Posted by: fuse | February 23, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

This new push for health care, and how Obama succeeds or fails, will determine whether the GOP takes over the Senate and House this year and whether Obama is then impeached next year.

Do not believe for a second whether the lunatics in the GOP will not impeach Obama the moment they have enough power.

This is Obama's last chance to lead. He better git r done this time.

Posted by: Lomillialor | February 23, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

@Lomilliator--but there is nothing to impeach him on. There has to actually be a high crime or misdemeanor to warrant an impeachment. What's the crime? Trying to fix our health care system? Passing a stimulus bill?

Posted by: StokeyWan | February 23, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

It's going to be six hours according to wall. Really?
Who'll be the last standing?

Posted by: KDID | February 23, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Any take on the Stupak statement calling the Obama proposal "unacceptable"? Obligatory tough talk or legitimately worrisome?

Posted by: jwellington1 | February 23, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

StokeyWan--How about lying about your birthplace? That would do it for many people.

The GOP will gin up anything once in power. Or did you miss the latter half of the '90s?

Posted by: Mimikatz | February 23, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Jeez. Hill Staffers need leadership to piss in the bathroom. They get upset about the lack of leadership every few weeks or so, and then once it happens are quiet for a couple of days and they complain again. It's a never ending cycle with those staffers

Posted by: calchala | February 23, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Since hill staffers can't keep their big mouths shut keeping them out of the loop is a pretty good idea.

Posted by: chrismealy | February 23, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

@StokeyWan, an impeachable offense is anything a majority of the House say is an impeachable offense.

Repubs would have the power to investigate things if they control the House. Also to set the agenda and force votes. This is huge.

Posted by: fuse | February 23, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

@Mimikatz--since he didn't, it's a non-starter. But, there aren't enough birthers in the House to pull that off, and there certainly not enough in the country to reward the effort.

Posted by: StokeyWan | February 23, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

The GOP House/Senate polling is apparently doing better now than at anytime since 1946. They are almost certain to take over the House and might take over the Senate.

If they take over the house, they will certainly make up any reason to impeach Obama.

One only needs remember Clinton/Starr to know I am right.

So to all you idiots out there planning to vote for the GOP this year, get ready for more endless investigations, prosecutions, and an impeachment crisis. This will all occur over a backdrop of a double-dip recession leading to a full-scale depression made worse by more wars and more tax cuts and borrowing.

Posted by: Lomillialor | February 23, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Stokey said : "There has to actually be a high crime or misdemeanor to warrant an impeachment."

What were you smoking during the 90s? Get rid of the drugs and go read some newspapers about what happened to Clinton.

Posted by: Lomillialor | February 23, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

I was there for the Clinton impeachment. And while I disagreed with the analysis that perjury in a civil case met the standard for impeachment, they did actually have proof of a crime. There's nothing here.

If they take over the house, one of those morons will bring articles of impeachment, but I don't think it will get anywhere.

Posted by: StokeyWan | February 23, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Oh god, I'm stalked by an idiot who wants to hash over the Clinton impeachment fiasco. If you think the GOP was right to impeach Clinton, then all I have to say to you is--oops, I already said it: get off the drugs!

Posted by: Lomillialor | February 23, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Tell your staffer friends that the President is playing tag and they are going to be "it" again as soon as he gets through the conference.

Posted by: bgmma50 | February 23, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

@Lomillialor, I think the GOP was wrong to impeach Clinton. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that there isn't a shred of anything to hang articles of impeachment on with regard to Obama. At least with Clinton they had an actual crime, albeit one that I don't think met the standard for an impeachable offense.

Posted by: StokeyWan | February 23, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse


Someone earlier said it already, but I'll repeat it....

If the GOP regains power in the House, they, and they alone, will decide what constitutes an impeachable offense. The Supreme Court or the Senate or the Constitution has nothing to do with it.

There are no appeals or overriding authorities over what they decide. They fabricated an impeachable offense with Clinton, and they will do it again with Obama if given the chance.

What part of the GOP's behavior over the last 15 years would make any sane person conclude they wouldn't impeach? In the last fifteen years the GOP impeached a president, doubled the national debt, invaded the wrong country, made torture effectively legal, suspended habeous corpus, allowed 911 to happen (I am no truther, but the fact remains Bush was warned and he did nothing), and blamed everything on Obama.

Wake up!

Posted by: Lomillialor | February 23, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

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