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A note on timing

House leadership said they'd allow 72 hours between the CBO score and the release of the reconciliation text and the actual vote. Since the score and the text will be available later today, that means the vote is likely for Sunday.

By Ezra Klein  |  March 18, 2010; 10:41 AM ET
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Posted by: jkaren | March 18, 2010 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Crafty Barry Hussein wants to schedule this right during the Kentucky game, just to spite Jim Bunning.

Posted by: misterhand | March 18, 2010 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Health care might actually pass, again. I'm amazed.

I had left it for dead.

Posted by: DaveoftheCoonties | March 18, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

I have never seen a more dishonest bill with the taxes starting now, but services not starting for 4 years for political reasons jammed through by the most corrupt methods. The bribes, the forcing you to buy products, the stealing of liberty.

No one wants this bill, even most Democrats. It's so ugly that the House Democrats don't even want to vote on the actual bill. And you champion this bill.

How do you sleep at night, Ezra?

Posted by: WrongfulDeath | March 18, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

WrongfulDeath, coverage for some will begin right away. And you are wrong, people do want this bill they are just getting lost in all the noise. Not everyone, but enough and it polls better then Medicare did when it began.

Does anyone know if there has been any polling on HC that is broken down by regions? I have a personal bet with myself that disapproval is only high in the South and that drags down the numbers for the rest of the country.

Posted by: vintagejulie | March 18, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

So voting on Sunday means they have to stay in session all weekend! Attrition works!

Posted by: wanderlust14 | March 18, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, they only disapprove in the south. That's why Scott Brown's winning slogan was "41." Why not vote on Good Friday or Easter Sunday?

Posted by: truck1 | March 18, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

@WrongfulDeath: blah blah blah. That sort of summarizes your comment.

Either you're the type who believes everything the government does is corrupt and evil, or the type that believes that anything the other side does is corrupt and evil.

Either way, not someone one can take seriously in a discussion about the merits of a bill.

I have no idea if this bill will actually pass, but if it does, I hope you have insurance (if not, hopefully now you'll be able to get one) to handle those anxiety attacks you are probably suffering from right now, and the potential heart attack on Sunday.

Posted by: JERiv | March 18, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

as a Southerner, not by choice haha, I tend to think healthcare disapproval is unreasonably high here. Why do you think the tea party convention was in Nashville!?

Posted by: wanderlust14 | March 18, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I do know a very large majority of the people against the bill are "older", as in senior citizens.

Which begs to question why as people age, and get "socialized" health care (MEDICARE, run by the government, people!), they get more hypocritical by denying even modest advances in Health Care reform for those of us under 65 years of age.

Funny how my dad, who's a veteran (single payer socialized health care thru the VA) is against "socialized medicine".

Was there something strainge in the water back in the 50s-60s or something?

Posted by: JERiv | March 18, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

The bill is just gutting medicare and oldsters know this. Medicare, plus taxes on the middle class, are the two money sources for this bill. Again Obama announces that the fate of MY PRESIDENCY hangs on this. L'etat, c'est moi.

Posted by: truck1 | March 18, 2010 11:41 AM | Report abuse


No, it's because us older folk know how to live within our means.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 18, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

if you lived within your means, wouldn't that mean that you were able to budget and save money to buy health insurance in the individual market and not have to rely on Medicare? Except that no one can budget for the individual market bc it needs to be reformed.

Posted by: wanderlust14 | March 18, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

@truck1: Sure. It's "gutting Medicare". What's more, Democrats, the ones who "like" entitlements, are "gutting" Medicare. Because, obviously, anyone who "guts" Medicare does so well on the next elections.

... what reality do you live in? Seriously? You know who tried to gut Medicare for the past who-knows-how-many-years? I'll give you a hint! It wasn't the Democrats! Know who wants to gut it now (or have you missed Ryan's blueprint?)? I'll give you another hint! It's not Democrats either!

I wonder how many other choices that leaves in your mind.

@JakeD2: So, you're a over 65? Do you have Medicare or VA benefits then? If so, willing to give it up and join the rest of us in the private, un-subsidized health care market? It would help the US live "within its means" and greatly reduce the deficit!

... If only all seniors were like you.

Posted by: JERiv | March 18, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Truck, I guess your comment about Scott Brown would actually make sense if polling after the election did not show that HCR was NOT the main reason that people voted for Scott Brown.

and folks I did not say that disapproval for HCR was high only in the South. I just wanted to know how much higher it is since polling broken down by region for the President's approval/disapproval has a large gulf between the South and the rest of the country.

Posted by: vintagejulie | March 18, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Perfect example:
jammed through by the most corrupt methods. The bribes, the forcing you to buy products, the stealing of liberty.

From the previous topic:
The reason the Dems only nibbled at the edges of say the employer healthcare tax exemption is that their political opponents demagogue the issue to paint dems as unamerican communists out to destroy america. And change the health care market? Secret socialist plot to turn the US into North Korea!!!! Markets good, rationality in policy, BAD!!! Markets solve all problem if only dems didn't want to use big government to regulate them to death. Well, you get the picture.

Posted by: srw3 | March 18, 2010 12:15 PM | Report abuse

@JERiv: Was there something strainge in the water back in the 50s-60s or something?

Yeah, that's when they started the flouridation (secret commie plot!)

Posted by: rjewett | March 18, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse


I am indeed over 65, already have one of those (non-union) "Cadillac" healthcare insurance plans, and have declined as much Medicare and VA benefits as allowed by law. You are aware that I am already FORCED to participate in some parts of Medicare, right? There's a lawsuit to stop that abuse too.

Posted by: JakeD2 | March 18, 2010 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Voting on Sunday is a Godless communist plot.

Posted by: TomServo | March 18, 2010 1:44 PM | Report abuse


Is your "Cadillac Plan" purchased by you on the individual market? Or, part of a retirement package from a previous private industry employer? Or are you covered under a spouse's plan?

Posted by: onewing1 | March 18, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

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