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I was readying to write about an immigration article I found interesting and then a TARP article I found depressing, but then I realized that both articles were actually about John McCain and I could cover them in one post.

The first is by Joanna Lydgate, and it examines the border-security bill McCain is pushing now that he's decided to stop supporting the comprehensive approach to immigration reform that he once understood to be necessary. It includes an expansion of Project Streamline, a policy aimed at criminally prosecuting and imprisoning every illegal immigrant picked up by authorities. Lydgate, who's studied Operation Streamline, has found the program to be a mess: It forces the legal system to spend its time on nonviolent offenders and erodes its capacity to focus on violent offenses.

"Federal prosecutors no longer get to choose which immigrants to prosecute; they must prosecute everyone," writes Lydgate. "As a result, nonviolent border crossers are clogging up federal courts and straining the resources of judges, attorneys, U.S. marshals and court personnel. From 2002 to 2009, federal magistrate judges along the U.S.-Mexico border saw their misdemeanor immigration caseloads skyrocket. Criminal prosecutions of petty immigration-related offenses increased by more than 340% in the border district courts." Meanwhile, "organized-crime prosecutions and drug prosecutions declined by 20%, and weapons prosecutions fell by 19%." With a drug war raging in Mexico, this is a terrible diversion of judicial and legal resources.

The second article sees John McCain selling TARP down the river. "They deceived the American people," McCain said. "They said it would go to address the housing issue, instead they gave it to the financial institutions."

Come again? I remember when McCain suspended the campaign to go back and work on TARP. I knew TARP was aimed at providing money to the banks. And I knew that because Hank Paulson said that. “The federal government must implement a program to remove these illiquid assets that are weighing down our financial institutions and threatening our economy," Paulson said in his statement explaining the program. "I am convinced that this bold approach will cost American families far less than the alternative — a continuing series of financial institution failures and frozen credit markets unable to fund economic expansion." You'll notice he did not say "a continuing series of foreclosures."

Either McCain didn't understand the program, which would be scary, or he's misrepresenting his understanding of the program, which would be sad. In the latter case, the excuse for both these panders is probably that JD Hayworth is running a primary against McCain in Arizona. Straight talk, it seems, is for presidential elections, not statewide primaries.

But I have no sympathy for McCain when it comes to the Hayworth challenge. In sacrificing his independent streak to win the Republican nomination and in launching Sarah Palin onto the national stage, McCain encouraged the viciously ideological conservatism that now threatens to destroy him. He might not have started this, but he did not fight against it when it counted. And now he's submitting to it entirely, if somewhat unconvincingly.

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By Ezra Klein  |  May 14, 2010; 4:06 PM ET
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I think you're the one misunderstanding the program. It *was* a bait and switch.

The "illiquid assets" Paulson is referring to were mortgage-backed securities and collateralized debt obligations that were on the balance sheets of financial institutions. That was the "mortgage problem" that McCain is talking about. And he's right -- TARP was never used for that.

Instead, it was used to provide direct capital injections into the banks. And then, a big chunk was used to restructure AIG's debt to the NY Fed. And then more chunks were used to bail out GM, Chrysler and GMAC. And more recently, we've seen the money returned by the banks and recycled back into the HAMP program, and into Fannie and Freddie. But the original proposal -- the "toxic assets" that the Toxic Asset Relief Program was supposedly going to buy -- never materialized from the Treasury.

A version of it DID materialize from the Fed. Which is funny in and of itself because, of course, the whole reason we supposedly needed TARP in the first place was that the Fed didn't have the authority to buy such assets.

Posted by: raylehmann | May 14, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Macain will most likely not get many votes this next election cycle. He has become a person who's opinion cannot be trusted. Perhaps it's time to give it up and retire.

Posted by: madmommy4u | May 14, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

McCain is just trying to save his political life...and who can blame him! He is no different from the others in that respect...they spend most of their time running for re-election! If they really did their jobs (listenting to the American public,they would have never passed the Obamacare disaster! But, November is closing in fast! Incumbents beware!

2010...WITHOUT DOUBT, VOTE THEM OUT!

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Posted by: my4653 | May 14, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Ezra Klein is, of course, lying. And, he's doing it in the same counter-productive (in his perspective) way that other BHO sycophants did before the election.

McCain hasn't changed what he wants: he wanted amnesty before and he wants it today and he'll want it tomorrow. He's just incrementally even more devious than the far-left, slightly changing his tactics by supporting enforcement now in order to get what both he and the far-left want: amnesty.

For the actual facts about this matter, search my thousands of posts or you can see them arranged by categories here:

http://24ahead.com/topics

Posted by: LonewackoDotCom | May 14, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

*[TARP] was used to provide direct capital injections into the banks. *

Ultimately it was, because the administration decided that this was a more effective way of saving the economy (and giving the US more leverage over the banks) than buying up potentially worthless mortgage securities. I do not think that McCain was really wedded to the exact mechanism of the bailout and to claim that because the bailout, which succeeded, worked in a different way that originally proposed is a cause for outrage is disingenuous.

Posted by: constans | May 14, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to hear him say "Cap the danged pipe"

Posted by: JRM2 | May 14, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

@constans
The administration had made up its mind that it was going to do direct capital injections even before the bill was passed, but certainly did nothing to apprise Congress of that fact. As to whether it "worked," I think it worked only in the sense that it was irrelevent. It helped PNC do a major M&A deal and created a nice carry trade, but otherwise, I don't see what it actually accomplished. It certainly didn't accomplish either of its stated goals -- getting bad assets off the banks' balance sheets or spurring them to lend again, unless you count lending the money back to the federal government by buying Treasuries.

Now, as to whether McCain is being disingenous about his concerns on this topic, I don't doubt that he is. But Ezra had presented it as if there were no topic to be disingenous about, suggesting either he is being disingenous himself, or he really just isn't familiar with what TARP was for and how it was actually used. Based on what I've read in this space since he moved from writing about health care -- where he seemed pretty well-steeped in the available wonkery -- to writing about financial regulation, where he is completely out of his depth, I'm more inclined to believe the latter.

Posted by: raylehmann | May 14, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

JD Hayworth is a huge boob. An embarrassment to mankind actually.

Posted by: jeffcoud2 | May 14, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

I notice everyone defending Mr. McCain neglects to mention his clear cut flip flop on immigration. There is no debate about that. No parsing the meaning of TARP and who got what. This man had a decent plan to reform immigration. He couldn't even bring his own dam plan up now! Eguene Robinson asked the question i believe, Is six more years in the Senate worth your principles? I disgaree with him on most issues, but at least I knew his arguement was an honest one. The stuff he is saying now is complete crap, and somehow I think he knows it. It must be a great job huh?

Posted by: Ike1975 | May 14, 2010 8:03 PM | Report abuse

McCain is hanging on to his Senate seat like grim death. He'll say anything, no matter how counter it is to what he said/believed before, just to hold on to his title of Senator. He said anything to try to become president. He has no convictions other than to retain or gain power. Pathetic. I used to respect the man.

Posted by: wireknob | May 14, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

I feel sorry for McCain. For me, he is no longer a living person but rather a shade of himself -- hanging on to an undead status because he can't lie down and fold his hands. He destroyed the old McCain when he campaigned in 2008 and he completed the demolition by naming Sarah Palin his VP candidate. He was saying "**** you" to his country and to his old self.

Posted by: moninga1 | May 14, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Good God Ezra what is wrong with criminally prosecuting every illegal migrant? Why doesn't the Left what our laws enforced are they afraid enforcement will actually work?

Posted by: cleancut77 | May 14, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Unemployment's high, illegal immigration's a problem. Hire more cops, judges and prosecutors. Build more jails. Cures both problems.

Posted by: gbooksdc | May 14, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

""Unemployment's high, illegal immigration's a problem. Hire more cops, judges and prosecutors. Build more jails""

gbooksdc, people need real jobs. Taking my tax money to hire cops and build jails is a waste of _my money_. Just because, like the Iraq war, using _my money_ to fulfill your violent fantasies gets you sexually excited, is not a reason to do it. FDR knew better than to use the New Deal to fund state-supported violence for the entertainment of a bunch of crazies. Ever since the George W Bush administration, I've noticed the right wing has been on a rampage to start spending billions to shoot brown people just to satisfy their need to lash out. It didn't do any good in the 00s under Bush and isn't going to work now.

It's amazing how willing the right is to spend government money when it comes to satisfying their violent fantasies. They've been embittered ever since their sworn enemy Clinton proved them all to be a bunch of fools when they claimed he would ruin the economy. But it took their idol Bush to actually do it.

There's one thing we're not going to do, gboooksdc: listen to any advocates of failed ideologies when it comes to taking advice on how to solve our current problems.

Posted by: tyromania | May 14, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

McCain only confirms that idiost always learn the hard way. It serves him right, especially the humilliation of having to beg that illiterate Alaskan piglet to help his sorryasset.

Posted by: analyst72 | May 15, 2010 1:24 AM | Report abuse

McCain only confirms that idiots always learn the hard way. It serves him right, especially the humilliation of having to beg that illiterate Alaskan piglet to help his sorryasset.

Posted by: analyst72 | May 15, 2010 1:25 AM | Report abuse

Yep, McCain has only himself to blame for his coming destruction. He was always a loose cannon and got away with it for more years than most erratic personalities deserve, but judgement day is coming. Let him be defeated, go back home to one of his wife's many houses and let him die there. Hopefully soon. He won't be missed.

Posted by: dsrobins | May 15, 2010 2:58 AM | Report abuse

McCain flip-flopped on immigration, somewhat on TARP (though as one poster said, he probably didn't understand it in the first place) and tax cuts for the well-off. These are big items. He's also flip-flopped on a few little ones over the years too (though guns and tobacco for kids are not little issues if they kill you). I voted for him, to my embarrassment, because I hoped there was within him a residue of the principled man I thought was once there.

But you can't blame him for "unleashing Palin". She was an unknown quantity with the potential to turn a losing election around. Choosing her was a Hail Mary pass that didn't connect, that's all. Besides, she's fun. Watching her speak is like watching a car wreck- hard to turn away.

Posted by: dyinglikeflies | May 15, 2010 5:32 AM | Report abuse

Wrong as usual Mr. Klein. Obama and Pelosi created the Tea Party movement that Liberals erroneously claim is destroying the GOP, not Sarah Palin and certainly not McCain either directly or indirectly.

When you grow up Ezra, you will understand that conclusions come after the facts, not before. When your conclusion is conservative bashing then you are bound to construct the facts to fit that conclusion. That is exactly what you have done here.

Obama is sounding more like McCain every day. Nuclear, oil drilling, a federal budget freeze....these were all McCain campaign issues that Obama has been espousing.

Posted by: hz9604 | May 15, 2010 7:06 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Klein: obviously he didn't understand TARP, as his doddering old washed up, cranky bitter man persona grows and shows. In fact, you will recall the reporting from that meeting was that McCain did not participate at all, asked no questions and said nothing. It was a photo op for one of America's greatest political frauds, the only presidential candidate in our history to have collaborated with the enemy.

Posted by: tytyman | May 15, 2010 7:19 AM | Report abuse

John Mccain is a poster boy for Term Limits. Ballot box Term Limits is the only thing to get rid of these sorry ego maniacs who call themselves Senators. Surely Arizona will throw this old cheap hack out of office. He has long overstayed his welcome!!

Posted by: cdorbg | May 15, 2010 7:35 AM | Report abuse

"viciously ideological conservatism"

as opposed to "enthusiastic hopeful liberalism" I suppose

Posted by: drjcarlucci | May 15, 2010 7:49 AM | Report abuse

What a crock. Obama's takeover of finance, the auto industry, and health care -- his czar system (why didn't he call them Reichskanzler"?), his hostility to religion, his support of abortion -- all this is not "viciously ideological"?

Has the Post (which lies, alas, all too often) EVER criticized this administration?

Posted by: chrisinwien | May 15, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

john it is time to put your hat and boots on jump on your horse and ride into the sunset,you are only embarrassing yourself.even MAC ARTHUR knew when to leave.from one navy vet to another.

Posted by: SISSD1 | May 15, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse


First of all, McCain did flip-flop on the amnesty program for political reasons.

Second, all of us were duped by the architects of TARP of which one of the architects was Geithner, Obama's man in the Treasury.

Remember, Wells Fargo and I believe also Bank of America, were forced in a locked room to take TARP funds. They were told they couldn't leave the room unless they did. The BOA CEO said they were told not to use the funds for bailing out people who were facing foreclosures.

The Banks ended up buying other Banks and receiving special tax credits which actually reimbursed them for funds spent on the purchases of other banks.

Some TARP funds ended up in the Royal Bank of England.

The Banks subsequently wanted to return the TARP funds to get out from under the heavy hand of Obama. Obama refused to take back the money. However, after a public outcry Obama relented.

I understand there is still unspent TARP funds waiting in the wings.

As far as the illegal immigration issue, I would advise every American citizen watch these two short videos to see who, besides Mexicans, are coming over our borders. Our national security depends on it.

Part 1 - http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html

Part 2 - http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html

Oh, and Klein, as an Independent, I find the liberals ideology to be much more "vicious" than the conservative one.

Posted by: janet8 | May 15, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

I had little respect for McCain. I did not like his womanizing and the vicious, filty jokes he told about women. Now I find I feel sorry for him. He is an old man clingin desperately and willing to sell his soul to have on. I wish he had retired after the campaign for presidency.

Posted by: withersb | May 15, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

John McCain may just win the election. I find it hard to believe Hayworth is going to beat him. But he's lost all my respect, and I see a lot of everyone else's, in the process.

Posted by: ravensfan20008 | May 15, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

It is hard to find someone more desperate for power than John McCain. Either he does not know what his principles are or tries to change them to win elections. He has blundered big time trying to do that. He has been plucky to say the least in conjuring up his image of an independent guy.

What on earth this guy doing begging help from Sarah Palin? He would win his senate seat, if he switched parties and became a democrat. There is no shame in that.

Posted by: pattr1 | May 15, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I normally vote liberal, but I would have voted for McCain in 2000 - he got "blackballed" big time by the religious right with help from the bushies.

He was one of the most admired politicians, but sadly, his enduring legacy will be a very shameful one - unleashing Palin on this nation. Even in politics, one must be respectful of the good of the nation - and Palin is an absolute joke pandering to the worst in human nature purely for money (and she is certainloy getting rich - nothings sells like sex ... and hate).

His bravery in Vietnam is laudable ... the current state of vitriolic politics - is this what he fought for?

Posted by: cogosome | May 15, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

crazy how teabaggers and racists want the feds to prosecute a class-3 misdemeanor and let the felons, murderers, drug lords and rapists be put on the back burner.

the real sad thing is that McCain has joined these nuts.

Posted by: cartercamp | May 15, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Don't feel sorry for McCain, he has brought every bit of this on himself. He should be tarred and feathered for unleashing the clueless Hockeymom on America. Now she is a expert on immigration and will be explaining SB1070 to us all in Phoenix today. Brewer and Palin, wow.

Posted by: deadchief | May 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

McCain in our Hindenburg. I hope he loses or retires before he does real harm.

Posted by: Sceptic3 | May 15, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

McCain is our Hindenburg. I hope he loses or retires before he does real harm.

Posted by: Sceptic3 | May 15, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

What a childish author, Ezra Klein is. McCain's problems arise from his own duplicity and waffling back and forth. Sarah Palin has nothing to do with McCain's woes. Fifty percent of the country adore Sarah Palin, much more than they approve of Obama.

Posted by: prossers7 | May 15, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

McCain is simply a sad case – it's time for him to retire. That a lunatic like Hayworth is this close to a Senate seat, though, is indeed partly mcCain's fault, for embracing the uberrightwing fanatics of this country.

Posted by: drindl | May 15, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"Mr. Macain will most likely not get many votes this next election cycle. He has become a person who's opinion cannot be trusted. Perhaps it's time to give it up and retire.

Posted by: madmommy4u | May 14, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse"

By picking Sarah Palin to be one heartbeat from the presidency, he proved he's someone whose JUDGEMENT can't be trusted.

Posted by: edismae | May 15, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Hayworth is a patriot and is just what is needed in AZ to complement Brewer and the rest of the folks there who have had enough with do-nothing McCain doing everything in his power to usurp the will of the people who elected him. People DEMAND immigration enforcement. They are not asking, they are telling. And amnesty is not enforcement. There are laws in place to deal with what is happening now but so many GD liberals who aren't affected by the problems have jumped on the bandwagon to help the illegals. Believe me if they lived for one month in my city of Manassas Park, Va., they would soon be singing a different tune. I won't even go into a 7-11 around here. REFUSE to go in one.

Posted by: j0nx | May 15, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

[[Hayworth is a patriot and is just what is needed in AZ to complement Brewer]]
=====
Lol, yeah that will complete the insane picture that is now Arizona. Don't forget, they have Arpaio, too -- a sheriff that apparently has more power than the mayor of Phoenix and the governor combined. John McCain gave us Miss Moose and now he is handing us Hayworth to be part of the Senate. Good job, John -- you have done a lot of damage in a couple of short years.

Posted by: creatia52 | May 15, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain has morphed into a shamelessly unprincipled bitter hack.

He shot himself in both feet with the nomination of ms palin. I for one, would welcome his retirement - he's way past his freshness date, and has lost the ability to positively influence and shape legislation. He's no longer part of the solution.

The old John McCain has to cringe every morning when he looks in the mirror and sees the latest incarnation of "the maverick".

Posted by: JilliB | May 15, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

As someone who recently turned 60, I have some advice for Mr. McCain: there's no fool like an old fool.

Posted by: Keesvan | May 15, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

How can anyone respect a used-to-be-'maverick' who in reality looks and acts more like a flip-flopping wh@re that would sink to anything to get re-elected?

Nice legacy grampa - letting palin out of the box,
- and compromising what little integrity you had left in a lame attempt to hang onto your seat -

so you can spit on the bipartisanship you said you represented
and voting 'NO' on any / every piece of legislation.

There will be NO "John McCain" library -
maybe a comic book?

Posted by: daveque | May 15, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I feel you have accurately depicted McCain.
Thank the voters for not electing this unscrupulous, self serving senator for the highest office in the land. His lack of political courage demeans his party and the people who voted for him. His career will now perish by his own hand.

Posted by: beachbum1938 | May 15, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

John McCain is a sellout. He's sold his credibility and his dignity just for the sake of holding onto power, for powers sake.
What a disgrace.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | May 15, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Five minutes with McCain would convince anyone he is a flake. What has he ever stood for?

I think it's remarkable that he lasted in office as long as he has. How he got through a presidential election without the mob connections or the Keating Five scandal being aired publicly is beyond me.

Good riddance. No one can doubt where JD Hayworth stands on the issues.

Posted by: Reesh | May 16, 2010 2:02 AM | Report abuse

John McCain has at least had the decency and the wisdom to keep his face and his opinions out of the daily news-----unlike his former VP candidate, who now believes that the world cannot survive without knowing her opinions of EVERYTHING!!!! Even when those opinions don't make sense, are under-educated opinions, are unsought by the general public.


Sarah Palin is setting herself up to be the next Hitler, not just a Presidential candidate.

Posted by: momof20yo | May 16, 2010 8:50 AM | Report abuse

John McCain has at least had the decency and the wisdom to keep his face and his opinions out of the daily news-----unlike his former VP candidate, who now believes that the world cannot survive without knowing her opinions of EVERYTHING!!!! Even when those opinions don't make sense, are under-educated opinions, are unsought by the general public, when those opinions contradict the previous one.


Sarah Palin is setting herself up to be the next Hitler, not just a Presidential candidate.

Posted by: momof20yo | May 16, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

John McCain has at least had the decency and the wisdom to keep his face and his opinions out of the daily news-----unlike his former VP candidate, who now believes that the world cannot survive without knowing her opinions of EVERYTHING!!!! Even when those opinions don't make sense, are under-educated opinions, are unsought by the general public, when those opinions contradict an opinion she gave to a different audience.


Sarah Palin is setting herself up to be the next Hitler, not just a Presidential candidate.


PLEASE JOIN ME IN BANNING SARAH PALIN FROM ALL NEWS MEDIA SOURCES. FORCIBLY DEPORT HER BACK TO HER OWN HOME!!!!

Posted by: momof20yo | May 16, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

Sad that Gramps McCain claims that he couldn't figure out that TARP money was to go to the financial institutions considering that he "suspended" his Presidential campaign (and tried to wriggle out of debating Obama) in order to devote 100% of his laser-like mind to the financial crisis.

If old John "Complete the Dang Fence" McCain wins again in Arizona, it is hard to imagine how much dumber he might potentially become during an additional 6 years in office.

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 16, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

The Arizona standoff continues...

On the one side the overwhelming majority of the American people support Arizona’s law regarding ILLEGAL aliens.

On the other side stand Barack Obama, the United Nations, Hugo Chavez and the Democratic Party, many of whom are hurling charges of racism & Nazism at the supporters of this law.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 16, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

"On the other side stand Barack Obama, the United Nations, Hugo Chavez and the Democratic Party,..."


...& don't forget the other hippies and scoundrels who oppose the Arizona law, like Michael Gerson, Jeb Bush, and that terrible socialist Karl Rove.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/04/why_conservatives_should_oppos.html

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 16, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Patrick_M, should I be impressed?

I don’t like or respect any of them and ripped Gerson a new one on that same thread for illiteracy and intellectual dishonesty.

I’m not a Republican. I’m a Classical Liberal.

Think before leaping.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 16, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

HostileKnowledge,

I care not a whit about which individuals you may like or respect (Russell Pearce, JT Ready and John Tanton, I suppose?).

Your little list was an rhetorical device to equate Chavez with Obama, the Democrats, and the United Nations. I simply wanted to expand your list to reflect the fact that there is bipartisan opposition to SB 1070 (not to mention widespread opposition among law enforcement, Catholic Bishops, etc.). By your definition, Chavez, Cardinal Mahoney and Karl Rove are allied working shoulder-to-shoulder in the fight against the law.

My leap was proceeded by that thought.

I guess your definition of a "classical liberal" includes support for laws which contain provisions that are in direct conflict with the US Constitution. The law will be DOA in court, its passage was and will continue to be a complete waste of the taxpayers' money, and once the law has been overturned it will have served no purpose, except to have inflamed resentment among Latino American citizens, and to have caused economic hardship to all of the citizens of Arizona as a result of lost tourism and other business.

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 16, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

"I ... ripped Gerson a new one on that same thread for illiteracy and intellectual dishonesty."

Really? You must either be using multiple user names here at the Post, or else you merely like to fantasize about "ripping a new one," because not one of the comments under Gershon's piece was submitted by HostileKnowledge.

You leapt before you thunk on that one.

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 16, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Patrick_M, if you don't care, then why open your mouth and let loose with all of that diminiutive claptrap in the first place ?

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 16, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

diminiutive?


I am familiar with the term "diminutive," but not the word "diminiutive." Must be a secret word used only by the classical liberals.

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 16, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I have no idea what's going on over at that Gerson thread. It looks like there's an enormous number of missing posts.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 16, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

diminiutive?
I am familiar with the term "diminutive," but not the word "diminiutive." Must be a secret word used only by the classical liberals.
################

You take a typo and use that to try to score a point?

You are indeed a petty little person.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 16, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

"It looks like there's an enormous number of missing posts."

Uh huh. Probably a case of sabotage orchestrated by Karl Rove and Hugo Chavez.

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 16, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

The Tea Party promised they were going to purge old line, GOP party hacks/RINOS and they are living up to their promise.

"Progressives" just can't get it through their heads that millions of previously, mostly silent Americans have become enraged over a deaf, heavy-handed, budget busting big government.

If you progressives want to delude yourselves that the right is running over the edge, you might want to remove your blinders and look at how President Cockroach, the pied piper of Marxism, is leading his Kool-Aid drinking lemmings over the cliff on the left.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 16, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

"You take a typo and use that to try to score a point?

You are indeed a petty little person."

Let's see, someone was proud of thinking he called Gershon "illiterate." Now who was that? Oh, wait....

You're right. The only thing more petty would be to compare Obama and the Democrats to Hugo Chavez, simply because many Democrats agree with the President that the statute passed in Arizona is problematic.

Now THAT would be a REALLY petty way to try and score a point!

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 16, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Patrick_M, you remind me of something so confused that it can’t figure out whether it should scratch its watch or wind it’s a**.

Why don’t you sit down in the little boy section and shut your mouth before you trip over your tongue and hurt yourself?

God decided to create the perfect, brainless invertebrate. First he created jellyfish. That was practice. Then he created Obama “progressives and perfection was achieved.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 16, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

"...you might want to remove your blinders and look at how President Cockroach, the pied piper of Marxism, is leading his Kool-Aid drinking lemmings over the cliff on the left."

Calling Barack Obama a "cockroach" ... stay classy, HostileKnowledge.

Here's a little tip for you, since (like others of your kind) you don't seem to have the faintest clue what Marxism is about. An actual Marxist would have nationalized failing banks, not given them hundreds of billions of dollars. An actual Marxist would have nationalized the health care system, instead of rescuing the private health insurance industry by mandating in millions of new customers. Marxism is about breaking up concentrations of private wealth. If Obama is guilty of anything, it is of being too generous in propping up Wall Street banks and corporate interests, not dismantling corporate wealth and power as a Marxist would do.

"The Tea Party promised they were going to purge old line, GOP party hacks/RINOS and they are living up to their promise."

For someone who professes not to be a Republican, it is pretty funny you would toss around an intra-party pejorative like "RINO," and that you would even take an interest in who the Republicans choose to run for office. If the Tea Party wants to replace reasonably intelligent Respublican conservatives like Bennett of Utah with slogan-shouting demagogue robots like JD Hayworth, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, and you, that's fine with me.

You can rant all you want with the mindless Tea Party, er...Classical Liberal... talking points and you can "rip me a new one" with your jellyfish insults (gee that was so-o-o witty). But doing so won't make Arizona SB 1070 any less unconstitutional.

And (as you appear to have forgotten) this thread of comments is about Ezra's observations concerning John McCain, and his rather shaky policy positions regarding immigration policy and the TARP program.

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 16, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Here's a little tip for you, since (like others of your kind) you don't seem to have the faintest clue what Marxism is about.
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I know exactly what it’s about. It’s clueless people like you that don’t get it and I suppose that’s because your understanding of current events and history and how they relate to each other is about as sharp as a gallon globule of snot.

Try to get your pathetic little cookies off somewhere else. I’ve been through reams of the former Soviet Union’s formerly secret archives and have learned things your little mind cannot conceive.

What in the hell do you know to give people instruction about Marxism?

And BTW, your reading of Obama’s actions are comedic.

Here’s a little tip for you: Consider installing a window pane in your belly. This way, as your head slides ever further up your butt, you can look out and see what’s going on in the rest of the world.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 16, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

HostileKnowledge,

Once again, Arizona SB 1070 did not become any closer to constitutionality as a result of your screed.

But thanks for once again for showing off the special sophistication and intellectual firepower that characterize the Tea Bagger/"classical liberal" movement.

Have a great evening.

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 16, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

People who do not know history make us all resolutely more at risk of repeating it.

Marxist-socialism is evil. It was one of the most prolific Death-by-Government, democidal periods in the history of mankind. And yet, people think that the fall of the Soviet Union spelled its defeat. Non, mon ami. It is very alive and well.

Of course, Obama will not take actions that are TOO drastic. Even he understands the consequences of overreach. But make no mistake; his actions clearly delineate his intentions. He is doing everything in his power to deconstruct what’s left of America’s free market system.

It’s long been the dream of Marxists the world over to destroy every vestige of America’s free market system and its freedoms; it’s their unholy grail. And Obama sees himself as the chosen one to accomplish this great feat.

John McCain? He‘s a Republican, as I understand. But strip away the veneer and you will simply find another opportunistic progressive.

Posted by: HostileKnowledge | May 16, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

This is really funny!

HostileKnowledge must be the mother of all conspiracy theorist!

Posted by: Citi__Street | May 16, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

McCain will win, he will get the votes, he is the best candidate. As for TARP, it was paid back, unlike the rest of the handouts the democrats like to give, this was actually paid back... JD is far too corrupt and far to unintelligent to place in Washington again. HE failed us once big time, that will not happen again.

Posted by: antidonkey | May 17, 2010 12:53 AM | Report abuse

antidonkey,

Oops. HostileKnowledge has just made you out for what you really are: "another opportunistic progressive."

Yes, the TARP funds are being repaid. And the original TARP allocation, with the fewest strings and the least oversight, was passed at the request of a Republican administration, months before the inauguration of Barack Obama, in a time of crisis while the financial system and the Dow Jones average was melting down. Given these facts, it is unfortunate that McCain feels the need to pretend the emergency request by the Bush Administration was some kind of bait and switch and that he was hoodwinked. But Bob Bennett can tell you how well a responsible vote on TARP goes down with what is now the Republican "base" in the red states.

I agree with you that putting JD Hayworth in the US Senate, considering all of his history with Jack Abramoff, would not speak well for the state of Arizona. I also expect McCain to win the primary, and by a fairly comfortable margin. But it is sad to see the way McCain feels the need to sacrifice his integrity and pander to whatever he thinks voters want to hear. I don't want to watch a man who was once an interesting and effective Senator continue deteriorate for another six years.

The "Straight Talk Express" has 4 flat tires.

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 17, 2010 2:43 AM | Report abuse

Citi__Street,

RE: HostileKnowledge -

Does the following sound more like a political theorist engaging in discourse on economic and domestic policy at The Washington Post, or like the "most likely to get held back" kid at a 5th grade boys lunch table?

"...ripped Gerson a new one ...President Cockroach...scratch its watch or wind it’s a**...sit down in the little boy section ...a gallon globule of snot...get your pathetic little cookies off somewhere else...as your head slides ever further up your butt..."

Lots of over-fascination with the human posterior there.

Let's all welcome another eloquent spokesperson to the marketplace of ideas speaking on behalf of the modern day right wing, and to warning us to "make no mistake" about the "chosen one" ("President Cockroach") pursuing the "unholy grail" of Marxist destruction of free market capitalism and freedom in the USA, in order to fulfill "the dream of Marxists the world over."

Earth to Republican Party: Please keep allowing the deep thinkers like HostileKnowledge to take you over like a Kudzu vine. PLEASE.

Michael Steele and Dick Armey: where do I send my generous donation to help ensure this wonderful takeover of a once-electable party is completed as quickly as possible?

Posted by: Patrick_M | May 17, 2010 3:28 AM | Report abuse

TARP point of view of the foundation new WTC development comprehensive settlement was very needed for the citizen timely.
It will help of our prosperity in the prosperous nation for a new good system. Maybe the clear public explanation could be published for the publicity.

Posted by: andrebudianto | May 18, 2010 5:10 AM | Report abuse

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