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By Ezra Klein  |  July 29, 2010; 12:47 PM ET
 
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Yes, leaks of "top secret" information is funny, but journ-O-list email, not so much. So, are you going to pull the "no comment" on how Bernstein, Brandzel, Furman, Hauser, and Orton ALL were members of J-list is violation of your alleged rule against the participation of government employees / political operatives?

Posted by: clawrence12 | July 29, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

clawrence12, you wanna post up your information which indicates the dates on which those people entered government employment and your proof that they remained on JournoList after that date? I mean, it's hard to evaluate your post if you're not going to include any info.

Posted by: MosBen | July 29, 2010 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Not just government employees, but also political operatives:

"Jared Bernstein, meanwhile, worked as an unpaid surrogate for Barack Obama during much of the campaign. All the while, he remained a member of Journolist. Even after the campaign ended, and he had joined the Obama administration, Bernstein continued his contact with the group. In May of 2009, Bernstein contacted Ezra Klein to pass a message along to list members.

“Calling all Journos,” Bernstein wrote in a message relayed by Klein. “I thought we got too little love from progressive types re our tax changes targeted at businesses with overseas operations. We’re maybe going for another bite at the apple this Monday,” he wrote. Bernstein invited members of the list to join him on a conference call on the issue a few days later.

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During key moments in the presidential campaign, [Shulman campaign manager, Jeff] Hauser dropped the pretense entirely, becoming nakedly political. In the days before the first McCain-Obama debate, he straightforwardly asked working journalists on the list to skew their coverage in order to help the Democratic candidate:

The single biggest thing journolist can do is to lay the analytical framework within the media elite necessary for an actual Obama debate win to be viewed as such by a sufficient proportion of media elites that voters know it was a win.

Of course, this only works if Obama does as we expect (and McCain is a terrible debater, btw).

But even Gore’s uneven Debate 1 performance in 2000 was deemed a win initially by a viewership that was demographically to the right of the electorate (lower minority viewership in 2000 of debates, more male, more GOP, etc…)… but Bush was winning on several media narratives and thus got the benefit from the intense 72 hours of post-debate coverage.

Journolist’s greatest challenge is to make sure an actual win by Obama translates into winning the battle for political impact.

In the conversation that followed Hauser’s post, not one Journolister expressed surprise or disapproval. No one rebuked Hauser for telling journalists how to carry water for a politician. Despite the group’s supposedly “very strict” ban on political operatives and explicit partisan coordination, Hauser remained a member of Journolist for almost two more years."

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/29/political-operatives-on-journolist-worked-to-shape-news-coverage/

Posted by: clawrence12 | July 29, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

None of that "info" was needed, of course, to answer my simple, preliminary question above directed toward Ezra. Here it is again:

Are you going to pull another "no comment" this time on how Bernstein, Brandzel, Furman, Hauser, and Orton were ALL members of J-list in clear violation of your own "alleged" rule against the participation of government employees / political operatives?

Posted by: clawrence12 | July 29, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

no one gives a crap about Jlist anymore. it's history. troll somewhere else.

Posted by: goadri | July 29, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

My last two posts were actually answering MosBen's question (is he a "troll" too?).

Posted by: clawrence12 | July 29, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Talk about a beautiful mind. That guy is really smart. A little biased against Pakistan. But very smart.

Posted by: bmull | July 31, 2010 9:55 PM | Report abuse

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