Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity

The Senate Democrats' disappointing final act

reidmiddleclass.JPG

In the few days remaining before the Senate recesses for the election, the Democrats have decided to pull off a bad policy twofer: They'll fight for one policy that doesn't make sense, and in doing, make success less likely on a policy that does make sense. They're doing this because they think the politics of it are better -- but are they?

The policies they're fighting for is the Creating American Jobs and Ending Offshoring Act. The policy they may be sacrificing is the expiration of the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy. The former will slightly increase the deficit and create no jobs. The latter will massively increase the deficit, create few jobs, and increase the already yawning gap between the rich and the poor.

The politics of the offshoring bill are obvious: Offshoring is unpopular, and this bill will help Democrats tell voters they're doing something about it. But will it actually do something about it? Well, no. "If you're looking for a jobs creation bill," says Kim Clausing, an economist at Reed who specializes in corporate tax policy, "it will definitely create jobs in the accounting and legal sectors. Beyond that, it's less clear."

The legislation has three parts. First, a two-year break on payroll taxes for every new employee that businesses can certify is "replacing an employee who had been performing similar duties overseas." (Quotations are from a summary the Democrats are circulating.) In other words, a business would get a tax break if it could show that a new hire in Georgia was replacing someone they fired in India.

This sort of beggar-thy-neighbor strategy is not just a recipe for a trade war: It's also a new loophole for smart corporate accountants to game. "Business will hire first and then find a way to apply this tax break to the hire," says Josh Bivens, an economist at the Economic Policy Institute. In other words, we'll be giving up tax revenue in order to give businesses a tax break for hiring decisions they would've made anyway. The only thing we'll ask in return is that they get their lawyers to convince us that they also fired people overseas.

The rest of the bill is little better. Currently, businesses can defer the taxes on income earned abroad until they bring that money back home to shareholders. That means they can invest it for awhile and earn interest before paying taxes on it. That gives firms a reason to move their income -- and at least some of their operations -- to low-tax countries. It's why the Netherlands, Bermuda and Luxembourg receive so much income from multinational corporations, despite having very little in the way of economic activity from those corporations.

The bill ends deferral "for companies that reduce or close a trade or business in the U.S. and start or expand a similar business overseas for the purpose of importing their products for sale in the United States." But who will enforce this? And how? If a multinational company says a plant is serving many markets, are we truly planning to send an inspector to China to check up on whether their business is "similar" and whether the products are all going to the United States? There are arguments for ending deferral and replacing it with something more sensible. This is a policy that will simply complicate it.

Then there's another policy to keep corporations from taking a tax deduction or credit when they close a domestic plant in order to open a similar plant elsewhere. Once again, it is hard to imagine that the money we'll spend on enforcement will match the money the policy will generate.

"All this is, at best, trivial in terms of where jobs will be created," says Bivens. But it gets worse.

The vote on the Offshoring Act is replacing a vote on the Bush tax cuts. Democrats actually had the (slightly) better end of the policy argument on that: Their resistance to extending the cuts for the wealthy was both popular and fiscally responsible -- though their support of extending all the middle-class cuts will add trillions to the deficit. Now they'll wait for the lame-duck session after the election to address this issue, and they're likely to do it from a weaker position.

On Nov. 2, three of the temporary Senate appointments will expire. That means Illinois's Roland Burris, Delaware's Ted Kaufman and West Virginia's Carte Goodwin will all be out of a job. Their replacements may also be Democrats -- but maybe not. Democrats could return to the lame-duck session with three fewer members of their party, making it less likely they can hold out against the efforts of Republicans and conservative Democrats who want to extend Bush's cuts for the wealthy. They've also potentially made voters question their determination on the tax cuts more generally.

And so in pushing a bad -- albeit unimportant -- policy, Democrats have made it likelier that they'll lose their effort to sunset $700 billion in unnecessary and unaffordable tax cuts for the rich. It's hardly a tour de force in effective governance, but Democrats have decided to make it the final act of leadership the electorate sees from them.

Photo credit: AP Photo/Harry Hamburg.

By Ezra Klein  | September 27, 2010; 4:18 PM ET
Categories:  Democrats, Taxes  
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: Our dumb corporate tax system
Next: Reconciliation

Comments

The fools in Congress once again think that "tinkering" is actually going to solve our economic problems. These people are so out-of-touch it is pathetic.

Posted by: pgr88 | September 27, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

They are so full of it, ya know what I mean! The only way they can stand up for the Middle Class is quarntee our retirement just like theres is an health benefits to boot just like theres.

Posted by: JWTX | September 27, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

I guess they think that doing "not much" is better than doing nothing at all.

They're wrong.

Posted by: Benson | September 27, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

At this point, these clowns are merely trying to curry favor with the folks who might hire them after they're thrown out of office in 5 weeks. It's every man for himself.

Posted by: ADNova | September 27, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I detest the thought of Sharon Angle in the U.S. Senate. But, it's time for Harry Reid to go.

Posted by: BBear1 | September 27, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are called the party of no, while the Democrats are the party of don't know, as in don't know how to do anything.

Posted by: r_leever | September 27, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The only way Congress can create jobs is to take on the big corporations and their mergers and buyouts. The growth of large companies has squashed, big time, the small business. Then Congress needs to utilize corporate profits for hiring.

I don't forsee any job creation in the next decade. Now if the Congress people can get their hands out-of-the-pocket of big business that may change, but I'd not hold my breath.

Posted by: Maddogg | September 27, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

---
Minority Leader Mitch McConnell , R-Ky., countered on the Senate floor that the bill would increase the deficit and would not create jobs in the United States. “Most of the factories the Durbin bill is trying to prevent from moving overseas are not traveling overseas to sell back to the American market but are moving there to gain competitive advantage over foreign companies in foreign markets, and in doing so, they create more jobs and more opportunity right here in the United States,” McConnell said.
---
This is like the outsourcing version of the old dot-com mantra. Sure, every closed plant puts a bunch of Americans out of work, but we'll make it up on volume!

Posted by: bjrubble | September 27, 2010 6:00 PM | Report abuse

Ezra Klein is entirely wrong again about the offshore act. Currently corporations get a tax deduction for taxes paid in foriegn countries. The new bill will end that causing the companies to be double taxes and move entire operations offshore which will cost jobs here in America.

The only jobs that may be temporarily saved is that of a few democrats in congress.

Posted by: robtr | September 27, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse


The Republican Pledge to end Social Security for retirees and to terminate all unemployment benefits is too harsh, no matter how popular it may be with the American people.

Posted by: motorfriend | September 27, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Re: the politics of deferring the vote on the tax cut: The way I see it, the only result of deferral is to shift the poltical advantage to the Republicans. If they took the vote before the election, Republicans would filibuster it, and they could campaign on the issue - "the Republicans are willing to let your taxes go up unless we give billions in breaks to their wealthiest supporters!". Polls seem to show public support for this position. On the other hand, they wait until the lame duck session, the Republicans can filibuster and argue "Dems are willing to have your taxes go up just to satisfy their lust for class warfare", and as the deadline approaches, polls will show a miraculous 'switch' in public opinion, showing the public is fine with having the upper brackets cuts stay as long as it means their own taxes don't go up.

The only reason I can see for not having the vote is if Reid knows he can't get 51 votes for it. If that is the case, it really begs the question as to what good a Dem majority is, anyway.

OK, somebody, tell me where I've gone wrong in my thinking on this.

Posted by: guesswhosue | September 27, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

what they want to do won't work and it won't create jobs...
if they really wanted to do so, they would legislate that part of the assembly process must be done on American soil...
in others words anything consisting of 2 or more items must be assembled in the USA with a diversity of American workers...
also...
legislate that for every foreign visa labor worker, an American of a diverse etnicity, indian hiring indian doesn't work for me, must be hired to learn from the foreign worker or be deported...
these two ideas can create millions of jobs...

Posted by: DwightCollins | September 27, 2010 6:07 PM | Report abuse

Indifferent, lazy, unfit, irresponsible, careless,feeble,lacking purpose,futile,in a word feckless, in another word: Congress.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 27, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

"The politics of this are obvious: Offshoring is unpopular, and this bill will help Democrats tell voters they're doing something about it. But will it actually do something about it? Well, no."

A final disgrace.

"Then Congress needs to utilize corporate profits for hiring."

This isn't going to work, especially if the clowns in Congress are running the show.

Posted by: justin84 | September 27, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans are called the party of no, while the Democrats are the party of don't know, as in don't know how to do anything.

Posted by: r_leever | September 27, 2010 5:52 PM

----------------------------

A repost is in order! Thank you r_leever.

Posted by: JAH3 | September 27, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand these bills well enough to have a strong opinion on them. But any evaluation has to start out with the reality that we are the one who is being beggared. A tax break that helps business hire workers over the next two years may be a good thing even if it is not really a consequence of bringing work back from overseas. I doubt that there was much prospect of the Democrats getting the result the President wants from a vote on the Bush tax cuts before the election. The situation after the election remains murky. Some kind of compromise seems more likely than the President's choice. In any case, the idea of a two year extention of all the tax cuts may be a better choice than the permanent extention of the middle class chunk. But, only time can tell what will happen in a chaotic session probably with many lame ducks and possibly with several new members.

Posted by: dnjake | September 27, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Sigh. Rather than do something meaningful, or in the best interest of the country, this is what we get. But remember, you get the government you deserve, not the one you want.

This goes along with my position on both parties...Democrats are economic idiots, Republicans are social morons.

Posted by: eeterrific | September 27, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

I am in the deep south and cannot stand the party "players" of NO. But, Lord give me strength, the Dems have no backbone. When will they realize that is why we put them in office? To stand up to the MONEY, the greed, stupidity and the incompetence. At least you know what you get with a Republican, not that you want it but......

Posted by: janetal2004gmailcom | September 27, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

All this tinkering around the edges of tax policy represents the supply siders' interests, corporate incentives of this type are just gimmicks, pretending to do something.

America must understand it is in a new iteration of the cold war. The countries that do one party crony capitalism a lot more effectively than we do, they don't care whether there is a fat and happy middle class in America.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 27, 2010 6:16 PM | Report abuse


I agree!

Americans don't deserve jobs!

I say give them to hard-working Chinese folk!

Let's pay them there so we don't have to pay them here!

_____________________________________________

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSnake Flag!!!!
_____________________________________________

Posted by: motorfriend | September 27, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure that the "tax cheat" or "enforcement resources" argument is that convincing. Isn't that always the case? We largely have an honour system approach where we rely on the honesty of filers and their fear of being audited. In the case of corporations who file reports with regulators such as the SEC, the accountants/auditors they are required to retain to audit their books have diligence measures that make it a bit harder for rampant abuses to occur.

Posted by: wswest | September 27, 2010 6:21 PM | Report abuse

How bankrupt is the GOP idea machine? So bankrupt that even though they are challenging the governing party during the worst economy since the Great Depression, the only way they think they can win is by telling a bunch of lies. FactCheck.org:

FactChecking ‘The Pledge’: Republicans' "Pledge to America" falls short on some of its facts.

http://factcheck.org/2010/09/factchecking-the-pledge/index.html


As FactCheck.org reports:

1) Even though in 2010 private sector employment has grown by 763,000 jobs and public sector employment has shrunk, Republicans falsely claim the exact opposite, saying private sector payrolls have shrunk while public sector employment has grown.

2) Even though jobless claims are down eight percent from the trough of the recession and continue to drop, Republicans falsely say they continue to soar.

3) Even though their claim is completely without factual basis, Republicans falsely claim that the IRS is hiring an army of 16,500 IRS agents to investigate Americans.

4) Republicans claim the stimulus bill cost 25% more than it really did, rounding the real number of roughly $800 billion to "$1 trillion" presumably because it sounds better.

5) Even though much of tax benefits under the GOP's proposal to extend Bush tax cuts for the wealthy would go to businesses making $50 million per year, Republicans claim that President Obama's tax plan (which would allow those tax cuts to expire) would raise taxes on small mom-n-pop businesses.

It occurs to me that it's a bit amusing that for all the criticism that some conservatives have leveled at the GOP's pledge, none of them seem to have a problem with the fact that it is not reality-based. So to those right-wingers who are attacking the pledge for all the wrong reasons, might I suggest that old saying: "Those who live in glass houses shouldn't cast stones."

http://factcheck.org/2010/09/factchecking-the-pledge/index.html

.

Posted by: DrainYou | September 27, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious.

John Kerry (D-Rhode Island (where the yacht's parked for tax avoidance purposes)) recently derided the public as stupid for falling for empty slogans (you mean like 'Hope!' and 'Change We Can Believe In,' Senator?) all the while Durbin, Murray, and General Harry Reid are pushing their lame 'Standing Up for The Middle Class' theme.

Meanwhile, we have no budgets, your taxes are going through the roof in January due to their inaction, and The Messiah says we can absorb another terrorist attack like 9/11.

You can't make this up, folks.

Posted by: egdusa | September 27, 2010 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Tax breaks , only if companies shut down an offshore plant and reopen one in the United States.

Posted by: rlkidd58 | September 27, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

"NO New News here !!!"

"Just the S.O.S. !!!"

Posted by: thgirbla | September 27, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

The Wall Street Journal summed up the Bush/GOP rein of ruin with an article titled simply, "Bush on Jobs: the Worst Track Record on Record." (The Journal's interactive table quantifies his comparative failure.) Just days after the Washington Post documented that George W. Bush presided over the worst eight-year economic performance in the modern American presidency, the New York Times on January 24 featured an analysis ("Economic Setbacks That Define the Bush Years") comparing presidential performance going back to Eisenhower. As the Times showed, George W. Bush, the first MBA president, was a historic failure when it came to expanding GDP, producing jobs and fueling stock market growth.

Posted by: ChicagoSteve | September 27, 2010 6:35 PM | Report abuse

I question the decision making process in the Dem Caucus. WTH??!!! Not only does this make me less energetic to vote in the Nov. mid-term, but makes me apathetic. Once again the Dems in Congress have shot themselves in the foot. The voters are between a rock and a hard place with the mid-terms. Either vote in Dems who are weak on enforcing their good policies and stupid making weak political decisions or vote for Republicans whose only care is politics and getting reelected, not governing. It's disheartening.

Posted by: denise4925 | September 27, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Dear Ezra: you almost have it right....
"And so in pushing a bad -- albeit unimportant -- policy, Democrats have made it likelier that they'll lose their effort to sunset $700 billion in unnecessary and unaffordable tax cuts for the rich"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>/>
They will "lose their effort" because, like Obamacare which they rammed up the a$$es of all the voters, it is an unpopular and ILL-ADVISED idea. Using the same approach for a second time would be certain suicide.

Please -- that "redistribution of wealth" thing is old and a proven LOSER.
Are you?

Posted by: jimbob3 | September 27, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

The Republicans have regurgitated that old line of B.S. from Newt, the philander and hypocrite.

You can’t make this up, folks.

Posted by: Provincial | September 27, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Gee, after 30 + years the congress decides to do something about off shoring. And a toothless weak bill at that. What a sad sad joke. These clowns don't care and haven't for years. Remember come Nov. and if the next bunch isn't any better, throw them out also. We've been easily satisfied by these poor performing jerks, in both parties. Demand results !!

Posted by: richard36 | September 27, 2010 6:44 PM | Report abuse

That the Democrats have made a conscious decision NOT to pass a budget is the height of irresponsibility. It is also interesting that Klein and his Journolist friends haven't seized on two other initiatives that used to make liberals' blood boil: changing the IRA/401k rules to force a percentage of the "investment" into government debt and simultaneously FORCING all employees to participate in 401k programs; and government purchase of 500 "x-ray" vehicles which can see freely into buildings and vehicles--without probable cause or a warrant. Salute smartly, there, liberals.

Posted by: SavingGrace | September 27, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

This offshoring bill (as you have explained it) appears it can only work to benefit the large multi-national corporations with increased tax breaks, assuming they pay taxes in the US. I don't see how American companies can get tax breaks in bringing jobs home, unless it means firing workers in Mexico and Canada and making our immigration problems worse.

Posted by: cjherzfeld@verizon.net | September 27, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

"How bankrupt is the GOP idea machine? So bankrupt that even though they are challenging the governing party during the worst economy since the Great Depression, the only way they think they can win is by telling a bunch of lies. FactCheck.org: "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/>
I hate to use a lib tactic to counter this limp attempt to discredit this document, but if all you can find are five items that don't check out, so be it.
I will bet that factcheck.org is still trying to wade through the Obamanure found in the healthcare reform bill.

Posted by: jimbob3 | September 27, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Lawyers writing laws that "sound" good.

Aren't lawyers the real problem?

What is the constant.... through nixon, carter, bush... clintoon....

During the last 50 years... congress/senate have been about 70-80% lawyers.

Only one constant during the american downfall.... lawyers writing laws.

Posted by: docwhocuts | September 27, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Business is quite simple! It is all in the math! Unions members cost too much! Can you imagine what a 55 inch LCD television would cost us if it were made here in USA. I just bought one for $1800 which includes 5 year warranty. If it were made here! The cost would be 5 times that! But the union members own what brand of goods in their homes. Truth is Amercians are lazy and that is why businesses look to illegals for hard workers and guess who supports illegals? Unions!!!!! So folks we can not have it both ways can we! We either want good quality and affordable products to buy or we get stuck with the likes of GM and union crap.
This nation can not sustain the vast amounts of union pensions but the dems are hellbent on getting $165 Billion pension bailout bill passed later next year. The truth is hard to take! But unions are the death of this nation.

Posted by: usmc1969 | September 27, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

cj, you got it right, multinationals get more tax breaks while domestic industries, like hospitality, food production and packing, building and landscaping, depend on illegal labor (in order to stay "competitive" with one another). We'll end American unemployment in a jiffy with this strategy.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 27, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

But, Why is The Anti-Christ Obama Destroying America. If you truly want to know what is going on; Then you will have to accept these things as the TRUTH. Once you understand the following things; All things will be understood. So I tell you Obama is Satan on Earth, Lawless One, or what ever else you want to call this Demonic Figure. His words describe him, He is a False Hope, If you listen to him you will love him. He carries a Bow without an Arrow. He will conquer all through his speech, his false hoods will capture all who sit and listen to him.
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
11And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Posted by: makom | September 27, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Trying to bring back jobs to the US is bad??? The GOPEE is sick. The right wing Chamber of Commerce has said taking jobs overseas is good for us and the jobs will be picked up some where else. The US has hit the tipping point with sending jobs overseas. There is only so many Wal-Mart greeting jobs.

Posted by: jerryd2 | September 27, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Well, looking over these remarks, one has to wonder if motorfriend is correct, Americans just don't deserve jobs.

Posted by: shrink2 | September 27, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

Democrats are incapable of passing common sense financial legislation. They don't understand business or international competition. Their worldview is that American Society is undertaxed and underregulated. Obama is not dealing with ending tax cuts because these policies have been in place for a decade. Obama is talking about increasing a tax on the investment and job creating class and his own party and his former budget director are running ftom hid class warfare policies.

Posted by: jkk1943 | September 27, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Democrats tell us they are for the people but, like the Republicans, always end up helping the elite. Hypocrites! At least Republicans say openly that they give it ch..it to the people.

Posted by: rappahanock | September 27, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Ezra is a prime example of what's wrong with journalism in this country. Any reputable news operation would have fired him after Journolist. But, this is the WASHINGTON POST.

Posted by: PS7900 | September 27, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse


"We lost the elections because The Voters Are Stupid."

John Forbes Kerry and every other leftist

Posted by: screwjob21 | September 27, 2010 7:37 PM | Report abuse

Should be "Democrats FINAL DISAPPEARING ACT."

Posted by: etronsen | September 27, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Increasing taxes on beggars or billionaires is a lousy idea. Did you know that billionaires do not buy mansions and yachts and then torch them? (Admittedly, a Keynesian might think that would be a good idea.) Those billionaires invest the money. In other words, they create jobs. Okay, they feed some of the money to the Beast by purchasing government bonds. But still.

The problem this country has is not that we pay too little in taxes. The problem is that the government spends too much.

Posted by: jdadson | September 27, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

In terms of extending the Bush tax cuts forever, that is NOT going to happen. There aren't 60 votes to do that either.

I think what will end up happening is tax cuts extended for the rich for another year.

Obama could then veto any futher extensions of tax cuts for the rich in 2011 if he wanted to.

Posted by: maritza1 | September 27, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Increasing taxes on beggars or billionaires is a lousy idea. Did you know that billionaires do not buy mansions and yachts and then torch them? (Admittedly, a Keynesian might think that would be a good idea.) Those billionaires invest the money. In other words, they create jobs. Okay, they feed some of the money to the Beast by purchasing government bonds. But still.

The problem this country has is not that we pay too little in taxes. The problem is that the government spends too much.

Posted by: jdadson | September 27, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, in other news, the Obama administration today proposed expanding the government's ability to listen in on the American public's Internet and wireless communications.
Want details? Well look quickly, for the Post played this story low down on its website, and in a couple of hours it may be gone.
Much like our constitutional liberties...

Posted by: mtpeaks | September 27, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

President Obama has been exposed as a stuffed shirt that stands for nothing, a windup toy set in motion by the multinational corporate interests and Wal Street that have wrecked this country, the new emperor, not the the one without clothes, but the manikin that is nothing without clothes, a mere scarecrow. The voters know this. Anyone with brains and a basic knowledge of issues and the disasters looming in our future, knows this and has lost all respect for this man. What is left are the wretched lemmings that hold out hope like some mentally ill failure living in a fanatasy world. I, personally, along with millions of other voters, are voting AGAINST the Democrat's and AGAINST this President who does not listen to the voters.

Posted by: mibrooks27 | September 27, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh look Ezra is all upset that his globalist friends might get mad.

Ezra you are an American aren't you? Start acting like one.

Posted by: PennyWisetheClown | September 27, 2010 7:51 PM | Report abuse

P90X Extreme Fitness System ONLY ONLY 42$$$$$$$
sorry to disturb u. just take u a little time.
If you are in need,
welcome to : h t t p : / / w w w . b 2 b j o r d a n s . c o m ./
50%off ca,ed hardy t-shirt$15 jeans,coach handbag$33,air max90,dunk,polo t-shirt$13,,lacoste t-shirt $13 air jordan for sale,l nba jersy for sale sale,$35,nfl nba jersy for sale
free shipping
accept paypal credit card
lower price fast shippment with higher quality
BEST QUALITY GUARANTEE!!
SAFTY & HONESTY GUARANTEE!!
FAST & PROMPT DELIVERY GUARANTEE!!
Packing: All the products are packed with original boxes and tags also retro cards/ code
numder
Features: AAA QUALITY, COMPETITIVE PRICE AND SERVICE
1) The goods are shipping by air express, such as EMS,the shipping time is in 5-7 business days
2) They are in stock now;
3) Various styles and color for clients’ choice
4) The Products are fit for most people, because of our wholesale price
puma gucci$35,nike jordans six ring,yeezy$%5!!
new era caps$13 gucci handbags jeans,t-shirts sunglass,caps
true religion jeans$35,ca,ed hardy jeans$35
LV,CHANAL,HANDBAGS$35
NIKE SHOX+AIR MAX+TL3+OZ+NZ ONLY $35
UGG TIMBLAND+LACOSTE SHOES+ED HARDY SHOES$35
DIESEL T-SHIRT,GSTAR T-SHIRT,CA T-SHIRT,50% OFF FOR SALE $15
DIOR SUNGLASS,DG SUNGLASS$15
new brand watches only $$$$$$$60
h t t p : / / w w w . b 2 b j o r d a n s . c o m ./

Posted by: 1561705755 | September 27, 2010 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Biden tells liberal base to "stop whining."

Liberals are so emotional.

TEA or GOP for a Recovery November

The WashPo/HuffPo will be hilarious to read the morning after the GOP takes the House

Posted by: georgedixon1 | September 27, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Kudos for a solid policy analysis, but this line was striking:
" Once again, it is hard to imagine that the money we'll spend on enforcement will match the money the policy will generate."

What makes you think this is drastically different than hundreds of other government programs?

Posted by: dnara | September 27, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Anyone know what our taxes will be three months from now? The current Democratic Administration has reached a new low in competence. We have no budget, a snippy out-of-touch president, and no plan for getting us out of this mess. And all the media can do is pick on the Republicans.

Posted by: marknelso | September 27, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

So, who believes a word that Ezra writes?

Posted by: rusty3 | September 27, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Its the republithugs who have trashed this country and spent the last four years obstructing any and all attempts to fix things.

So why does the "impartial" media always attack the Democrats and refuse to report the anti-American policies and practices of the right-wingers?

Not only is the republican party a failure, so is the main stream media since the GOPers removed all the safeguards and controls. The hapless Democrats and avergae Americans are the victims.

Posted by: BigTrees | September 27, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

JournoListas do.....

Memo to WashPo:
Democrats blast GOP on education issues
Obama blasts GOP 'Pledge'

Is 'blast' your only verb?

Posted by: georgedixon1 | September 27, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

It's sad that the Congress and Senate can not seem to mature and grow up like the rest of us. Politics is so much like the old Romper Room.

Posted by: eaglehawkaroundsince1937 | September 27, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Until the Federal Government is required to
have a 'balanced' budget there is no hope....

Posted by: UpAndOver | September 27, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Are Americans going to re-elect the Evil Party because they've had it with the Useless Party?

I'm frustrated with Democratic ineptness, but if it means returning to Voodoo Economics, Corporate Socialism and a NeoCon war with Iran, incompetence looks pretty appealing.

Posted by: AxelDC | September 27, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Gutless and weak Democrats sell us out once again, for short term political gain.

At least the Republicans have backbone and seem to BELIEVE in their policies, disastrous as the Conservative policies have been. As if we needed more idiots.

Between the brainless, but passionate, Republicans and the gutless, if somewhat more on target Democrats, the American public has no good choices.

Posted by: samsara15 | September 27, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

The United States Congress is an elite ‘Adult Daycare Center’….

The problem is that the ones suffering from dementia are allowed to vote….

Dementia: It affects memory, thinking and judgment…

Posted by: UpAndOver | September 27, 2010 8:40 PM | Report abuse

Mexico Lite, the party pandering to illegals had another bad day I see.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | September 27, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Voting for Dems is like praying or recycling. You don't really think the world will change but on the other hand the devil and the depletion of the planet are so horrible that you go through the ritual as better than nothing. To be clear: In two generations the current US GOP will be universally regarded as perhaps the single most responsible group for the degradation of the planet and the worsening of humanity's place in it. Reid sucks but he can't hold a candle to the Republicans for sheer awfulness.

Posted by: undisclosedangler | September 27, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

A lot of the motivation for the Democrats to fight corporate expansion overseas comes from pleasing the unions.

In most cases, corporations expand overseas to compete in regional markets. The auto industry has plants in Europe and elsewhere because the labor costs are cheaper (look at the auto labor costs in Detroit)and the transportation of the cars from the U.S. to overseas makes them even less competitive. Border factories in Mexico are different, because their main purpose is to sell their products here, but they help employment in Mexico.

I was in the Chemical industry and managed a South American plant. We built it not to send chemicals back here, but to compete with both local producers and European producers who built plants there.
We paid local income taxes, which were deducted from our U.S. income taxes. If we had to pay two taxes, we would not be competitive and would close the plants. But that does not create jobs here. It only makes the unions and the Democrats happy. Another benefit of overseas operations is that they strenghten the U.S. corporation, which helps our financial markets and our economy. Also, there are a number of jobs created in the U.S. when you open an overseas subsidiary in management and support functions.

Maybe the Democrats, and also Republicans, should have private experienced business executives help to formulate these policies instead of ignorant lawmakers and Harvard liberal professors.

Posted by: chemiph | September 27, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

We Democrats are the Party of Yes! Yes, yes, yes! We'll give you anything and everything you want. All you have to do is vote for us! Anyway, it's only money, and it's not even ours! It's the Republicans! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Vote Democratic and we'll redistribute the wealth. Those rich Americans don't need all of that money.

Posted by: georges2 | September 27, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

This bill is a lot of political mumbo jumbo. Have any of these Democlowns ever had a collage level economics course? How about high school econ?? November 2 is the real answer to unemployment and the economy and you can vote to get rid of these failed policy makers.

Posted by: StMartinQue | September 27, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Oh, my heavens! You Democrats keep BLASTING us Republicans right and left (but mostly left). You girls are just too much, you hear? The rest of the world is laughing at the Democratic Party! Have you ever seen such a bunch of idiots in your life? I've been on the phone all evening with friends in Australia, Germany, Egypt, and India, and they're all laughing! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Obama, the "Great Hope" (at least in his mind) is the butt of jokes all over the world. I'll tell you who's also hurting: IVY LEAGUE COLLEGES. Wow! If Obama is an example of what these places produce, no thanks! The rest of the world is hoping that the Republicans retake at least one of the houses of Congress. They can then start breathing again.

Posted by: georges2 | September 27, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

As an I.T. Manager, I'm all for doing away with off-shoring of jobs and the importing of workers from Asia. But, you don't need a new bill to to the latter - just enforce the long-standing INS requirement that imported workers must have a special skill that can't commonly be found here.

Even easier is eliminating illegal immigrant crop pickers by providing a one-time tax incentive for farmers to buy the kinds of machines used to harvest crops on European farms. We'd save a bundle on health care cost on the illegals we no longer needed. Call it 'Cash for illegals'.

Regardless - throw all of the bums out. Seriously.

Posted by: JHG_sec405 | September 27, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Whiney little socialist vermin like ezra must be SOOO disappointed that the grown ups of America won't buy his sissy liberalism.

Posted by: carlbatey | September 27, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Ezra, what the hell has happened to your comments section? It's all major stupid and Fox News. What happened? Could you go back to TAP?

Posted by: thehersch | September 27, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

It is mighty funny,How reid,pelosi,& The rest of the demons,Are so concerned about the poor middle class,When after a year and a half,Spent the entire time shoveing a bullying a Trillion dollar H/C on the American people,That they and the Union's are excempt from,Theirs is a lot better,Now after reid & pelosi called the American people red neck trailor park nazi trash.I guess they think us stupid rednecks,Have forgotten,On how they really feel about us ungreatful commoners,WE needed jobs,And after two years,We still need jobs.And pelosi,& reid passed a law,That if you don't buy their Ins. plan,You will be fined $2,500.Dollars,Or go to jail,Ain't that cool.How are you going to pay either,If you don't have a job.Now they & the Demoncrafts,Have shut the doors again,Planing to leave the tax cuts Pres.Bush gave us,And if they are still there after the next election,They are going to take the tax break from us,And then raise our taxes,Thanks for the change people.[NO MORE TAXES}LOL.Did you know that every financial adv,Pres. Bush fired because of stupidty,Are the same advisors for obama.Some of you people still want to blame Pres.Bush,And most of you are so stubborn,Like a mule with blinders,And refuse to look back,Bill Clinton the empeached pres.Was the one started the ACORN,FREEDIE MAC,&FANNY MAE,That made banks give these corrupt co.TRILLONS OF OUR DOLLARS,To people that had bad credit,No credit,And LOANS,To buy homes they knew they could not,And was not going to pay the money back.It was NOT Pres.BUSH,It was slick willy,Pelosi,reid kennedy,franks,The same crooks you put into office again.How much longer are you people going to keep pelosi,reid,boxer,And the rest of the Demoncrafts in office,That are fighting to free illeagles,To keep and take more of your jobs,Are you that blind or just brain washed,Do you people really hate America & your Freedom that much,I know the unions do,Look how they were the cause of running jobs out of America,And now sucking it dry.Getting free H/C.Sucking Gov.jobs dry,With their lazey,Nonprofessional labor,Proven sorry craftmonship.And running job budgets out of sight.And if you believe reid,pelosi,& boxer,Is for America,Then YOU ARE STUPID LAZEY REDNECK NAZI TRAILOR PARK TRASH.

Posted by: dickiesnhogheaven | September 27, 2010 10:32 PM | Report abuse

How is it that not increasing taxes on those earning more than 250k in a given year is "unaffordable" while we can afford to spend seven times as much not increasing taxes on most of the of people in the country? The people largely consuming the services should pay their part for the increases in them that they apparently want.

Posted by: staticvars | September 27, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

The Senate Democrats are just disappointing, generally. Full stop. They managed to screw up the politics of stimulus and healthcare reform, and in doing so they've discredited the philosophies that most of them supposedly stand for.

Their crowning achievement was a half-a-loaf healthcare reform premised on the idea that it was a "first step" towards a better system. Now, due to their political incompetence, even that is vulnerable to appropriations committee sabotage. A significant number of Americans are about to go to the polls and affirmatively CHOOSE to let insurance companies discriminate against them -- all because most of the Democratic caucus has spent literal years being too scared of leveling with people.

Even more maddening, the sleazy damage done by the moderates will never actually hurt their esteem. Despite the fact that most Dem policies have been shanked by the likes of Nelson or Lieberman, the fall will inevitably be blamed on "liberals." And the Dems' 2012 strategy will just be to recruit more useless middle of the road dead enders. It's going to be a crappy couple years...

Posted by: NS12345 | September 28, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

I do not believe the Democrats have the votes to past their class warfair tax extension for some American but not all American. As for motorfriend saying the Republican pleadge to end social security is too harsh it is a liberal lie. It happens every elections when liberal Democrats starting lying that Republican are going to take away social security.

Posted by: hfarmer2 | September 28, 2010 12:23 AM | Report abuse

The only way Congress can create jobs is to take on the big corporations and their mergers and buyouts. The growth of large companies has squashed, big time, the small business. Then Congress needs to utilize corporate profits for hiring.

I don't forsee any job creation in the next decade. Now if the Congress people can get their hands out-of-the-pocket of big business that may change, but I'd not hold my breath.

Posted by: Maddogg | September 27, 2010 5:53 PM |
------------------------------------------I strongly disagree.
Congress "cannot" create jobs.
It's not their duty,or responsibiity to "Create Jobs." They can get out of the way, and stop "obstructing" job creation.
They can promote jobs, by first promoting "BUY AMERICAN." They can begin with Walmart.
Wal-mart is planning on donating, or giving, $2 BILLION DOLLARS TO consumers, or to their customers. Why not invest this two Billion dollars in local, or regional manufacting? Practically everything, we need, buy, and use, is being manufactured in China, or some other Asian/Foreign Country, at a mere fraction, in most cases, of what we'd have to pay, to have the same item made in the USA.
We could take steps, as simple as having "all our Politicians" promote "Buy American."
When Sam Walton was alive, he promoted that idea, whenever there was a possiblilty, that it could be implemented.
Let's do it. I'm willing to pay more money for American made Products.
Dennis

Posted by: Shadowsmgc | September 28, 2010 12:45 AM | Report abuse

The only way Congress can create jobs is to take on the big corporations and their mergers and buyouts. The growth of large companies has squashed, big time, the small business. Then Congress needs to utilize corporate profits for hiring.

I don't forsee any job creation in the next decade. Now if the Congress people can get their hands out-of-the-pocket of big business that may change, but I'd not hold my breath.

Posted by: Maddogg | September 27, 2010 5:53 PM |
------------------------------------------I strongly disagree.
Congress "cannot" create jobs.
It's not their duty,or responsibiity to "Create Jobs." They can get out of the way, and stop "obstructing" job creation.
They can promote jobs, by first promoting "BUY AMERICAN." They can begin with Walmart.
Wal-mart is planning on donating, or giving, $2 BILLION DOLLARS TO consumers, or to their customers. Why not invest this two Billion dollars in local, or regional manufacting? Practically everything, we need, buy, and use, is being manufactured in China, or some other Asian/Foreign Country, at a mere fraction, in most cases, of what we'd have to pay, to have the same item made in the USA.
We could take steps, as simple as having "all our Politicians" promote "Buy American."
When Sam Walton was alive, he promoted that idea, whenever there was a possiblilty, that it could be implemented.
Let's do it. I'm willing to pay more money for American made Products.
Dennis

Posted by: Shadowsmgc | September 28, 2010 1:00 AM | Report abuse

Whiney little socialist vermin like ezra must be SOOO disappointed that the grown ups of America won't buy his sissy liberalism.

Posted by: carlbatey | September 27, 2010 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Ezra, what the hell has happened to your comments section? It's all major stupid and Fox News. What happened? Could you go back to TAP?

Posted by: thehersch | September 27, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

-------------------------------------------
Wapo and Ezra, have discovered that there are hundreds of thousands of people, with a wide range of Ideologies, that are waiting for a forum, in which they can express/post, and discuss their opinions, and ideas, and interact, and get feedback. I like the forum, and he format. It's getting pretty crowded of late. Which can only improve the popularity of the site.
Thanks, WAPO
Dennis

Posted by: Shadowsmgc | September 28, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

It's not that you Tea-Nuts have developed a mental block that in December 2008 - in one month alone - we lost over 500,000 jobs and our unemployment rate during that month was at 15.3 percent. Let me refresh your squandered memory with a Wall Street Journal article (not exactly a "left-leaning" or "liberal" newspaper) from that time.

It's that you never even bothered to pick up a newspaper at that time.


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123150742539367897.html


And here's a chart you won't find in the "Pledge" to America (nor will you find even one photograph of a black person in all those photographs shown of groups of people throughout). What a redundant and overdone "pledge" - which is the only reason it contained more words than Newt's previous "Contract" - same package only gaudier and more verbose. But this chart is reality - something you don't quite have a handle on:

http://static.businessinsider.com/image/4bb614577f8b9a1667ae0100/chart-020510-update.gif

Posted by: redjanuko | September 28, 2010 5:00 AM | Report abuse

There is no such thing as middle class folks. So when Reid or any politician talks about middle class they are clueless and using a tool of propaganda.

[From Wikipedia - "A persistent source of confusion surrounding the term "middle class" derives predominantly from there being no set criteria for such a definition."]

Posted by: hz9604 | September 28, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Ezra .. if you weren't such a leftwing partisan you'd probably admit that the Democrats have continually abused the legislative process to produce massive amounts of legislation designed to help themselves, their favorite lobbyists and unions, while screwing the rest of the nation.

How many years did we hear that the Bush tax cuts were just for the wealthy? If that was true, then how come many Democrat legislators want to extend those cuts for "the middle class"? What cuts are they possibly talking about...oh, wait - nowe I see. Those Bush tax cuts were not jus for the wealthy after all. So the Democrats have been lying for almost 10 years .... so why should anyone believe them now?

Ezra ... you're not totally lost .. there is still time for you to bring some honesty to your own political thinking. There is no better time to deep-six Democrat incumbants.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | September 28, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

staticvars ... There are more voters in the larger groups. Although they pay more than their "fair share" of income taxes, there are fewer people in the upper levels of taxable revenues. So foolish politicians play "class warfare" politics.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | September 28, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

Ezra Klein

THIS ARTICLE IS A DISAPPOINTING ACT!

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL NOVEMBER 3RD

I WILL DISOWN ALL THOSE ON MSNBC


THE DECISION IS MADE BY AMERICANS VOTERS AND NOT "NATIONAL MONEY"

KEITH OLBERMANN
INSTEAD OF TALKING ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TALK ABOUT RAHM EMANUEL AND THOSE BLUEDOGS WHO ARE SCREWING US AROUND!

Posted by: dove369 | September 28, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Once again the Democrats seem to be snatching Defeat from the jaws of Victory! All they do is shoot themselves in the foot rather than STAND UP AND FIGHT THE RIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL! The Base will NOT thank you for it in November. As Roosevelt so aptly put it, "YOU have NOTHING to FEAR but FEAR itself!" Quit trying to cover your own sorry butts and FIGHT for AMERICA and what you know we need and want! The regressive Republi-WON'T Party of NO! will win by default! WAKE UP and FIGHT THEM!!!

Posted by: billnbillieskid | September 28, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Both parties prove my point. All incumbents need to go.

The Republicans are not smart enough to govern, and the Democrats do not know how to govern.

Posted by: bfree123 | September 29, 2010 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Klein, what do you expect from the left-wing Dems who are in control of Congress (at least for the next three months)?

Of course, looking from as far left of center as you do, anything just plain left looks strange to you.

And you should know by now that left-wing Dems do not know anything about business. So no one expects meaningful legislation supporting business from Harry Reid and his like-minded henchmen.

Get a grip, Klein.

Posted by: RonKH | September 29, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

What kind of Republic allows citizens to be radiated by scatter X-Ray machines at a level ten times higher than a chest X-Ray?
Google Search: "Feds Radiating Americans"

This is why I am voting for Constitutional Independent s come the Congressionals Nov. 2 - and the same for the big election in 2012!

The truth is Establishment Democrats and Establishment Republicans and RINO, work for the same bosses the Global Elite, under lord Rothschild and minnions! That is why the, private federal reserve, can tell the Senators like Ron Paul and Grayson they won't tell where our tax dollars went!

The Globalists sympathizers and Treason in our Government is as obvious as the nose on your face!

So common sense tells me that there can be no hope of getting a Free America back if we continue to vote for what we know are corrupt scum politicians, that have long ago sold out to "One World Government" Elitist Corporate advocates!

Our house is full of termites, tare it down and build a new one with honest Constitutional Representatives, we can't have bad apples in the barrel and the barrel we have now is rotten to the core except for a couple of politicians Ron Paul and perhaps Jim DeMint!

I would also like to see Judge Andrew Napolitano run for President in 2012, he is an outstanding Constitutionalist, that like Ron Paul could offer an honest American President!

If we don't clean House, we are not going to have a house, our own faith, country, family, possessions or freedom!
God Bless America and the world to be free of Global Elitist Tyrants! "In God We Trust" Amen!

Posted by: PaulRevere4 | September 30, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Post a Comment

We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features.

User reviews and comments that include profanity or personal attacks or other inappropriate comments or material will be removed from the site. Additionally, entries that are unsigned or contain "signatures" by someone other than the actual author will be removed. Finally, we will take steps to block users who violate any of our posting standards, terms of use or privacy policies or any other policies governing this site. Please review the full rules governing commentaries and discussions.




characters remaining

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company