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By Ezra Klein  |  September 7, 2010; 9:52 AM ET
 
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So spot on! It's like you (the voter) are mad at your hubby (Dems), and instead of just kicking him to the couch for a couple of days, you divorce him and marry a crackhead (Republican Party). Much howling ensued in 1995 when Republicans actually tried to implement the Contract with America, but it was nobody's fault but the voters. They did not lie or conceal a thing--this is what they got elected for. And there will be howling next year, but the damage will have been done. Thanks to amnesiac voters who can remember the American Idol finalists and forget the last 5 years.

Posted by: ciocia1 | September 7, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Another good one from Toles. I have lots of problems with the Dems. I mean, really, lots. Still, the performance of the Republican Party over the last 20 years has really given me the impression that they are either uninterested or incapable of governing like adults. I know that every majority party will eventually become a minority party (and conservatives crowing about the rejection of Democratic values should really keep this in mind), but I really thought it would either A) take the American people longer to forget the Republicans' terrible track record, or B) that the Repubicans would really have to do some soul searching and decide to get serious about governing. Instead we've got this nonsense about Park51, President Obama's origins, and the idea that tax cuts should never be paid for. I know the polls in the post below really seem to indicate that people just want to "throw the bums out", but it's really deppressing that people seem to have such short memories about what that will actually mean...

Posted by: MosBen | September 7, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

@ciocia1: "So spot on! It's like you (the voter) are mad at your hubby (Dems), and instead of just kicking him to the couch for a couple of days, you divorce him and marry a crackhead (Republican Party)"

Although for some of us who are likely to vote for Republicans (and not for the first time, mind you), it's more like I'm irked at my crackhead husband, and all his crackhead friends, so I'm dumping him to get married to a different crackhead who, at the moment, has better shoes.

I may be wrong, but scolding the electorate for not being smart and good and voting for you, like they're supposed to, may not be the best way to win those fickle voters over.

@mosben: "(and conservatives crowing about the rejection of Democratic values should really keep this in mind)"

Because if the economy doesn't improve (and a Republican majority spends the next two years launching stupid investigations into Obama), they'll be rejecting Republican values in 2012.

"but it's really deppressing that people seem to have such short memories about what that will actually mean..."

It is what it is. The Democrats and Republicans are presented with similar challenges: they have too woo and keep fickle voters, and they have to keep their own bases happy. It's a challenge.

And, of course, there are folks like me who think that it probably won't mean that much, good or ill. I'm very much of the "meet the new boss, same as the old boss" mentality when it comes to politics.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | September 7, 2010 1:05 PM | Report abuse

Kevin, quite so. The Republicans will take a majority again at some point even if they don't manage it this time around (though obviously most people are expecting them to get the House). And then Dems will get the majority, and again and again. The American People (tm) aren't constantly refuting the worldview of each party and then changing their minds.

As for my "depressing" comments, I know you bend toward the conservative, but as dysfunctional as the Dems are, I really do think the problems run deeper on the Republican side. I mean, if the next time the Dems are in the minority they act as badly as Republicans I'll stand corrected, but I just don't see the evidence from the Bush years pre-'06 to support that. I don't see a Democrat version of "death panels", or birtherism, or the idea that tax cuts don't have to be paid for while the deficit is the most important problem we have, or the other things that have come out of elected Republicans in the last couple years.

And I am limiting it to elected officials. I may think the crazies on the Left are smaller in number and lesser in crazy than the crazies on the Right, but we've both got them, and thankfully none of them get to vote on pending bills. I would like nothing more than to be greeted by a totally serious Republican majority (well, other than a Democratic majority), but I just don't see any reason to think it's going to happen, and I fear what is. /Glenn Beck tear.

Posted by: MosBen | September 7, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

"or the idea that tax cuts don't have to be paid for while the deficit is the most important problem we have, or the other things that have come out of elected Republicans in the last couple years."

MosBen, suggest you read Ezra's post justifying putting $500,000+ worth of windows on a closed building. Democrats are every bit as lunatic about spending us deep into debt as Republicans are about tax cutting us deep into debt. However, I have the sneaking suspicion that a three year old could spend his own money in a more productive fashion than putting windows on a closed building.

Posted by: bgmma50 | September 7, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Just saw your proviso on elected officials, MosBen. But I've seen Miz Nancy parroting on about the "stimulative" effect of this or that boondoggle often enough now to believe that she'd also be able to justify those blasted windows with a perfectly straight face.

Posted by: bgmma50 | September 7, 2010 3:00 PM | Report abuse

@mosBen: "I really do think the problems run deeper on the Republican side. I mean, if the next time the Dems are in the minority they act as badly as Republicans I'll stand corrected"

Maybe. They've certainly not put me in the mood to defend them, I'll say that. Although, the Republicans have only acted this bad during Clinton, and even then, not so much.

So, we'll see. I have a hard time believing the Democrats will take the high road, if they see a political advantage to exploit. Our elected representative are, at their hearts, politicians. I frequently find that no matter how far I lower my expectations, they teach my I should have set them even lower than I did.

I do not see the upcoming Republican majority, should it happen as predicted (something I'm not 100% positive about) as being a permanent state of affairs. "We're not that guy," is not a credible strategy for leading into the future.

Posted by: Kevin_Willis | September 7, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Kevin_Willis:
Re: whether my comments would win over voters. I am no Democratic politician, so I don't have to kiss up to hustle votes. I'm just observing. Sorry, but many voters whine about taxes, while having no real idea where their money goes, and whining when their favorite programs are threatened. I am free to call dumb, dumb.

Re: whether Democrats will take the high road. Compare and contrast the behavior of Republicans during the Clinton and Obama administrations, when they attempted to obstruct and investigate for its own end, and how Democrats behaved during the Reagan and Bush I administrations. The only way Republicans could have taken a lower road is if they brought excavation equipment. While Democrats are far from perfect, they at least behave like grownups running a government, which the Republicans do not.

Posted by: ciocia1 | September 7, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

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