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Posted at 11:42 AM ET, 12/28/2010

Why Obama weighed in on behalf of Michael Vick

By Ezra Klein

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The weirdest story of the morning is President Obama's call to Jeffrey Lurie, the owner of the NFL Eagles. Two things apparently happened during the call: Obama praised the team for giving Michael Vick a second chance, and then he asked some questions about the Eagles' plans to use alternative-energy sources to power the stadium. Now the White House is spinning the call as the sort of everyday inquiry the president makes into eco-friendly architecture. "The president did place a call to Mr. Lurie to discuss plans for the use of alternative energy at Lincoln Financial Field, during which they spoke about that and other issues," Bill Burton told Mike Allen.

That explanation makes a lot less sense than the one Lurie himself offered, which was that Obama is "passionate" about the fact that "it's never a level playing field for prisoners when they get out of jail. And he was happy that we did something on such a national stage that showed our faith in giving someone a second chance after such a major downfall.''

Patting Lurie on the back for playing Vick might give the White House communications shop some headaches, but it's also worth doing: About one in 100 Americans are currently behind bars, and more were behind bars at some other point in time. And as this Pew report (pdf) shows in grim detail, the punishment doesn't stop when convicts leave prison: "Serving time reduces hourly wages for men by approximately 11 percent, annual employment by 9 weeks and annual earnings by 40 percent." And those numbers hide a serious racial tilt: "Incarceration depresses the total earnings of white males by 2 percent, of Hispanic males by 6 percent, and of black males by 9 percent."

Then there's the downstream effects on children and families ("Even in the year after the father is released, family income remains 15 percent lower than it was the year before incarceration"), and on cities with a high population of ex-convicts, and so on. As you might expect, the recession is making all this even worse.

That Obama would think it important that an NFL team made a major statement about the employability of ex-convicts makes sense. That he'd want to take a risk and throw his weight behind the decision by making that call is admirable. But for the White House to now say that the call was really about energy efficiency in stadium design both makes Obama look a bit Carteresque -- does he really have time to be worrying about the energy efficiency of football stadiums? -- and blunts whatever impact the call itself could have had. That was a call either worth making or not worth making, but it definitely wasn't worth making if the president wasn't willing to stand behind it.

Update: On Twitter, Ana Marie Cox notes that all commentary on this question should link to the "Second Chances Act," and she's right.

By Ezra Klein  | December 28, 2010; 11:42 AM ET
 
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Comments

Agree the White House response is somewhat feckless, but this is really a non-story, one we wouldn't even have known about if Lurie hadn't opened his mouth.

Even if Obama just wanted to privately commend the Eagles for giving Vick a chance, it appears as if it was meant as a private conversation. We have no right to know about every conversation the President has, whether we like it or not.

Posted by: Hieronymous | December 28, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

For a supposedly analytical person, I think there's too much impulse buying in this White House!

Posted by: 54465446 | December 28, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

No. What the President should have done was visited a small business in D.C. that gives ex-cons a second chance. An ex-con willing to go straight on minimum wage or a tad higher. He should not be heaping praise on a multi-millionaire about a player making millions. He should be on the street-level of this issue, not the lofty towers of professional sports. I'm disappointed.

Posted by: jckdoors | December 28, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, Mr. Klein, but this smacks of passion for bad-boy athletes, not passion for the rehabilitation of felons.

If Mr. Obama really cared about the latter, he'd be profiling ordinary citizens who have overcome their convictions and gone on to lead productive lives -- people who might actually serve as role models in their communities, instead of spoiled celebrities who don't even respect the terms of their probation.

Posted by: Itzajob | December 28, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

You just posted on Twitter that "The explanation for it was nonsensical, for reasons I explain in the post," but I'm not seeing an explanation here, or any acknowledgement that stadium energy usage (unbelievably high) could be an actual priority for a POTUS who's put green buildings on his energy priority list.

Seriously Ezra, this is not your best work.

Posted by: mediamaimonides | December 28, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Obama just made a comment that he believed, and one I agree with, that sounds like it was private. But anyway, who cares? Why is this news?

Personally, I like the story of Vick's comeback, but I especially like watching him play. Just as I like watching Hester return punts, and used to like Jordan playing basketball.

Can't we just keep it simple folks. Relax.

Posted by: johnkomalley | December 28, 2010 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Obama just made a comment that he believed, and one I agree with, that sounds like it was private. But anyway, who cares? Why is this news?

Personally, I like the story of Vick's comeback, but I especially like watching him play. Just as I like watching Hester return punts, and used to like to watch Jordan playing basketball.

Can't we just keep it simple folks. Relax.

Posted by: johnkomalley | December 28, 2010 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Of course criminals suffer from reduced earnings after they get out of prison -- any person with a gaping hole in their resume will experience the same consequences.

The big lesson here is that Obama loves criminals as much as the Washington Post's editorial board; he's just a little less willing to admit it. I can understand that the Post would love criminals because crime sells newspapers, but Obama's stance is a little curious. Maybe he was trying to lock up the dog-killer and ex-felon demographic for 2012.

Posted by: diehardlib | December 28, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Look Ezra,

It's good to send a message that convicts who have served a just amount of time, feel remorse, and want to be good citizens, be given a second chance. That's good for society and reduces repeat crime.

But you chose a convict who has served a just or appropriate amount of time. Not someone who has committed a horrible crime and served only a trivial sentence. Vick hasn't come anywhere close to a just or appropriate sentence for the horrible crimes he committed, and by Obama praising Lurie he makes it look like he cares little about dogs.

I think Obama just wasn't thinking here. You're constantly busy and overworked, saying a million things, something can come out sometimes without thinking.

Posted by: RichardHSerlin | December 28, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

First of all, Michael Vick did not have a "downfall." He got a very mild sentence for the crime of running dogfights. The far more heinous offense, the torture killings of unknown numbers of dogs, was eliminated as part of the plea bargain. This is the real offense. He inflicted unspeakable pain on many many dogs for his own enjoyment. He hanged dogs. This is a man who should not now be a completely rehabilitated celebrity. These are acts of people who often go on to kill human beings, but even if this is limited to dogs, the reveling in cruelty over many years and many acts should place him beyond the acceptance and embrace of the public, and far more so, of the president. What was the President thinking here? If he wanted to weigh in on the issue of giving released convicts a second chance, he should have picked almost anyone else. How about someone doing time on charges of drug possession? The crimes of Vick were brutal and absolutely pathological, and showed a man who rejoices in the suffering of helpless dogs. He should NOT have such an easy ticket back to celebrity, and to have that ticket stamped by the President -- beyond disgusting.

Posted by: truck1 | December 28, 2010 12:47 PM | Report abuse

obama is getting desperate for 2012 votes...he's even looking for the pit bull fighting club approval....soon he'll be chatting up the pedophile's and sicko's on 4channel.

Posted by: JWx2 | December 28, 2010 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Vick is not your average criminal. He seems to be (from media reports) a naive athelete who was abused by people he trusted but still should (and did) pay a price for his crime.


If this is just one liberal's attempt to deflect attention from an athelete to "social justice" or whatever you want to call it that we should sympathize (or at least understand) criminals and their plight when they return to society then you've succeeded. You may also want to (in the spirit of telling the whole story) include statistics on recidivism.


What's more interesting is seeing how Vick's bankruptcy (and current and future earnings are handled). While what he did was horrible and indefensible his actions in bankruptcy (at least) should be commended.

http://www.wtkr.com/news/wtkr-vick-debts-dec7,0,2781107.story


Posted by: visionbrkr | December 28, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I already thought of Obama as somebody lacking normal human emotions.

This doesn't surprise me at all.

Obama doesn't care about old people, sick people, homeless people, etc. etc., so why would anybody think he cared about abused animals?

Michael Vick is a sociopath - that's what animal torturers are, by definition. And people who defend sociopaths are also sociopaths. There is simply no other way to spin it.

Posted by: solsticebelle | December 28, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

I think what Michael Vick did to those poor dogs is something so despicable that he should not be given a second chance to become a rich celebrity/hero. Vick hurt many poor dogs over a long period of time which truly shows his character. He should still be in jail. On the other hand, people serving time for mere marijuana possession should all be released with an apology from our Country! They didn't hurt anyone or anything in 99.99% of the cases.

Posted by: Don46 | December 28, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Ezra,
You are way off the mark here. You say that "an NFL team made a major statement about the employability of ex-convicts". The team did no such thing. They thought Vick could win games so they hired him. NFL teams have shown they don't care what kind of murderers, rapists, or animal torturers they employ.

Vick is a despicable human being. Obama should know better than to come within 100 miles of him or anything to do with him.

This will cost Obama many liberal votes. Voters may forget about tax compromises they didn't like, but being kind to sadistic dog torturers will stick in their minds.

Posted by: nelson8 | December 28, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Why does Obama support someone who has done the most cruel things to animals? Betraying dogs is the issue, not Vick's right to a 2nd chance. This just makes me so sick. There are lot of less hi-profile felons who might have been held up as examples for Second Chances. This was Obama's exploitation of a situation that gained both him and the football player a lot of publicity, but it is Obama condoning Vick's record of cruelty to dogs. It is a waste of the presidential bully pulpit and it is a shameful, shameful use of presidential gravitas to console a man who was so terribly selfish and cruel.

Posted by: Grace61 | December 28, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

I think it is perfectly appropriate for a President to comment on divisive social issues. It let's the people know exactly where he stands. Isn't this what we want from our politicians? It's We the People who ultimately will hold them accountable. That being said, I vehemently disagree with Obama's thinking, and I will never vote for him again. I also believe he just committed political suicide (well, considering his current standing, this is just another nail in the coffin.) Those who agree with him on the Vick issue were already in his corner, while I believe a great many people who voted him into office will be completely turned off. This is a net loss for the President.

Posted by: redhotCAPSaicin | December 28, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

That's great - show your support for a psychopath who brutally tortured and killed pets for years. Vick should have received at least one hour of the suffering he inflicted upon those dogs for so long.

Posted by: WilliamHolder | December 28, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Trying to figure out why anyone cares about this "story", why we're discussing it, why it's relevant to anything, why it's in the wapo...why am I even writing this?

Posted by: wadeb123 | December 28, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

very solid (non slanted) article on the subject of reporters and how they could, should and do cover the "Vick story" now and going forward.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jack_mccallum/12/28/vick/index.html?eref=sihp

Posted by: visionbrkr | December 28, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

I did not vote for President Obama, will not in 2012...BUT I do agree with the call. Vick was used as an example, and the legal system punished him because of who he is not what he did. TWO thimbs up Mr. President!

Not in with the global warming crowd either, by the way what temperature should it be? Oh we do not know, two thumbs down to those who believe...Mt. St. Helen let off more "greenhouse" gases than the United States has for 50 years...in two days!

Posted by: kadius1964 | December 28, 2010 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Confess to smiling at some of the comments above, in that it seems we won't elect a President who hasn't killed an animal or two along the way. Remember even John Kerry sporting camouflage and bragging about killing birds?

I suspect some of the comments have less to do with Vick's reprehensible conduct, which he has apologized for and seems to be sincerely attempting to redeem himself, and more to do with another avenue to take shots at the President.

Posted by: Hieronymous | December 28, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

This is such a non-story on so many levels. But it meets the demands of 24 hour cable news, and I'm sure Ezra will be on MSNBC tonight giving his perspective.

Posted by: rbowser38 | December 28, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

The Obama family shouldn't be caring for a dog if that's the attitude taken.

Posted by: slowdive | December 28, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I love how this article is slanted. "Prior incarceration reduces earning power." No kidding. So does quitting school, a poor work history, having lesser qualifications, and a whole host of other things. Actions and choices have consequences, boo hoo.

That Michael Vick paid his debt to society and now gets to be free and go about his life, is not in dispute. He has a right to be free after serving his sentence, but not a right to play professional football. The choice of the NFL and the Eagles to allow him back into professional football simply shows what the league has become. A soulless commercial enterprise that will do anything for a buck.

Football athletes, many of them, are no longer the role models we once wanted to hold up before our kids. Instead, the NFL is quickly becoming nothing more than the world's best-televised street gang.

That Obama once again has his logic and his morals figured out backwards should be no surprise to anyone.

Posted by: grummantbf | December 28, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Total and utter crap. I'm from Philly, and though I've never been a die-hard football or Eagles fan, I always appreciated the remarkable talent of these elite athletes. But I'm fairly ashamed of this city, and the people who put their mercurial and childish needs of elevating their mood through feel-good sports victories. How did we get here? Look, all of you in denial "let's give the guy a second chance" deluded twits, all you have to do, even if you aren't a dog person, is watch a video of these dogs fighting, getting killed(either by their opponent or master), to snap your thoughtful selves back in a sense of reality that exists in a bit more of a morally sound plane. These aren't wild animals. These creatures save lives, help the blind, guard your life unflinchingly, or best of all can provide a pure and unconditional love towards humankind. He got a slap on the wrist for extraordinarily violent and canicidal behavior. Beatings, jumper cable electrocutions, shootings, drownings..COME ON! I don't care that he's going through the motions with the ASPCA(he should have been forced as condition of his release to donate 75% of his NFL earnings toward animal shelters, it would have left him enough to live comfortably with his family, and justified a bit more legitimately his cushy sentence). But instead, we become "forgiving" and "reasonable" about this maniac, because he possesses a rare and exceptional talent that makes the rest of us mere mortals swoon. If he came back to play and was having a lousy season, I'm certain that the adoring public would not be so forgiving.
And given that Obama has given us a boat load of "what the hell is he thinking?" moments since the beginning of his term, this is just par for the course.

Posted by: danno10 | December 28, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Another "brilliant" PR move obviously orchestrated by who else - George Bush.

Was was this moron thinking this time; "Hey I need more support from convicted felons."

If this dude is supposedly the best and brightest we have to offer, we are in some deep $h!t.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | December 28, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama sneezes, the bashing begins. Sometimes he just shows up and the bashing begins.
Now we're criticizing a personal phone call ha made, expressing his views to which he remains as entitled as any American.
Never has any other US President faced as much undeserved scorn, scrutiny and suspicion yet come out looking dignified and 'above it all'.
Of course, it's mainly because he is a colored man! Americans remain, generally, a racist and prejudiced people.

Posted by: ib422000 | December 28, 2010 1:53 PM | Report abuse

What, did Lurie put the POTUS on speakerphone and record the phone call?

This smacks of stupidity on both ends...both the Rethugs who took advantage of an innocent, private phone call and Obama himself, for making such a stupid remark about a millionaire ex-felon.

Posted by: dc1020008 | December 28, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Dang people, the issue isn't dogs, it's second chances.

However, I wonder if my cat likes Vick??

Posted by: spro | December 28, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Once again, Obambi shows he and all his far left wing worshipers are totally out of sync with a large majority of Americans. Enjoy your remaining two years with "The One" lefties. Even the lamestream media can't save this guy from himself.

Posted by: gorams1 | December 28, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

none news,obozo huslin votes. what a fool

Posted by: pofinpa | December 28, 2010 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Itzajob - "Sorry, Mr. Klein, but this smacks of passion for bad-boy athletes, not passion for the rehabilitation of felons."

People should have a 2nd chance once they have done time. American cannot work if we want effectively, lifelong incarceration for all convictions - nor if we want to guarantee further criminal activity by those released by treating ALL of them as unemployable outcasts.
Agree Obama could have picked some better examples than a recently released famous bad boy sports star, but this wasn't a case of him directly saying at a press conference "I don't know all the facts, but the cops did something stupid". It was told by a 3rd party.

And the Vick matter is not as goofy as the Philly owner seeking Green PC points from The One because he is going to festoon Vets Stadium with some token Chinese-made solar panels and "wondrous" little wind turbines in the parking lot.

Posted by: ChrisFord1 | December 28, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

This administration spins at the first sign of controversy. The president was really calling about who the Eagles mascot actually is and just happened to bring up Vick, blah, blah, blah.

The people who are ex-convicts did not just roll craps and go to jail - they broke the law and were convicted by a jury. Are there further consequences once they are released? Of course.

Would 0bama have said anything were Vick white? Not a chance.

Posted by: Charley_XF | December 28, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

This administration spins at the first sign of controversy. The president was really calling about who the Eagles mascot actually is and just happened to bring up Vick, blah, blah, blah.

The people who are ex-convicts did not just roll craps and go to jail - they broke the law and were convicted by a jury. Are there further consequences once they are released? Of course.

Would 0bama have said anything were Vick white? Not a chance.

Posted by: Charley_XF | December 28, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Please, this is NOT newsworthy. Pathetic, really, considering what we are facing as a nation presently.

Posted by: AJBF | December 28, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

First, Vick is one of the more visible ex-cons out there and is someone that the President can cite as a rehabilitation success story. I personally have no problem with his citing Vick for that reason. That said, there are a ton more dog lovers out there and the President carried Philly in the last election. Not a savvy move for a President entering the re-election cycle. Just look around some of our DC environs, there are tons of folks walking dogs. I'll bet some people subscribe to the Post just for those plastic sleeves the papers come in.

Posted by: genericrepub | December 28, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Vick didn't deserve a second chance.

Posted by: PorkBelly | December 28, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

You and the rest of the media should be embarrassed. Just when the public thinks the media can't get any more silly or petty this non-story.

Posted by: NMP1 | December 28, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

ChrisFord1, what is your disagreement with my post? That it's a good thing when felons are rehabilitated? That Michael Vick is a spectacularly poor example of a rehabilitated felon? That the President continues to put his foot in his mouth with these odd social pronouncements, from Henry Louis Gates to Mr. Vick?

Posted by: Itzajob | December 28, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Nice spin, Ezra. If only Vick were comparable to the normal felon. If he couldn't run fast and throw a ball, he would be making fries. Lurie gave him a chance because it might benefit his team, not because he gives a flying f*** about second chances. Obama is too stupid to see this and, as usual, hitches his wagon to a moron felon not worth defending.

Posted by: dtysko | December 28, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

It looks like the white house has been caught again in another lie. According to the liar's house, Obama called eagles owner Jeffrey Lurrie and discussed two subjects. The first subject and reason for the call was to discuss the Eagles plan to use alternative energy to power their stadium. The second subject, which came up during the course of conversation was to give Michael Vick a second chance. However, according to Jeffrey Lurrie, the first subject discussed was Obama's passionate plea to Lurrie to reenstate Michael Vic as the Eagles starting QB. Lurrie goes on to say that his use of alternative energy to power the stadium was discussed but as a secondary subject. This administration just continues to lie about everything. They just refuse to be truthful about any subject. We americans sit and take this when we should be standing tall and denouncing this government for not telling the truth.

Posted by: lori9 | December 28, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Time for this and he STILL cannot seem to find that birth certificate. But then he found time to kept the promise to the 18% of the population which is professed gay to destroy the military.
Thanks Obama we have sure appreciated it. Sorry you never found the time to serve anything but yourself.

Posted by: KBlit | December 28, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Ezra, I don't think you or Obama were aware of the horrible extent of Vick's crimes.

Posted by: RichardHSerlin | December 28, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

Let me see, "I don't know all the facts, but the Cambridge Police acted stupidly..." and with a first row audience of Supreme Court Justices, a decision was criticized and demeaned with promise to undo the "damage" (to Democrats and Soros??).

And now, our glib president, in effect, "praises" Mike Vick?
Did he really think that an owner of an NFL team gets a call from the POTUS that he should keep it a secret?
Of course not -- Obama had no business calling to commend a criminal's second chance -- and then having his staff cover for him.
He has a lot of work to do if he is going to be concerned with all the prisoners / criminals who are getting a second chance.
Oh, maybe his concern is reserved for sports stars and celebrities only...???
His bad decisions and ineptitude just keep coming....

Posted by: pjcafe | December 28, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

Ezra,

I always read your column but your posting on the Obama-Vick mistake was less than intellectual and made for poor political analysis. I am disappointed.

You state "That he'd want to take a risk and throw his weight behind the decision by making that call is admirable." It is actually the worst sort of pandering by Obama to the concentration of white-capital and wealth in the hands of a few in corporate America. Where your post should have offered insight into inequity and the lack of social justice in America, it congratulated a senseless gesture: both to the disenfranchised and abject ex cons and to those who care about the rights on non Human animals. Obama insulted those with criminal records who seek employment and reintegration into an unjust society by genuflecting to a white millionaire for employing a black millionaire in the name of economic self interest. Vick was no Jean Valjean stealing to survive but a sociopath who ran a fetishist Sadism factory for dog torture. That Vick actually earns below market wages for an MVP caliber season and Lurie (like the protagonist of the Coetzee novel Disgrace)is perpetuation of wealth stratification between black and white. Hardly news to celebrate. Sound like shades of modern sharecropping -- eh Ezra? In contrast, Obama did not place a call to an entry level job employer where ex cons typically apply for jobs to laud economic self interest as social progress.

As far as Vick's crimes, he was not prosecuted in federal court for the most heinous acts for which there was evidence. The dogs he murdered with his hands get no "second chance". The survivors -- Vick's victims -- do get a second chance (except for one) at an externalized social cost to society in money and time to animal welfare organizations. They deserve the respite but their existence takes up space that other needy dogs can not have.

In all Obama's praise was more a panegyric to his own last remaining political scruple than a peroration for social justice or social responsibility in America. Wrong call Ezra -- stick to what you know (people who write policy seldom can understand theory) because your writings are as much mere entertainment as Vick's day job.

John Maher

Posted by: johntmaher | December 28, 2010 2:50 PM | Report abuse

To all of the posters who think what Vick did to the animals was despicable - have you eaten any factory-farmed meat lately?

Posted by: duhneese | December 28, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Good comments, Ezra. And Mr. President, it's wonderful that you have such compassion for rock star quarterbacks.

But it is a shame that Michael Vick's salary has been reduced to only $5+ million per year this year, when he used to be making more. I'm sure the Eagles offered him this salary purely from altruism and compassion and not from any self-serving motive.

And Mr. President, you're 100% right. Once all felons are treated as rock stars and paid $5 million per year, our nation's problems will be solved.

Posted by: dcc1968 | December 28, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama sneezes, the bashing begins. Sometimes he just shows up and the bashing begins.
Now we're criticizing a personal phone call ha made, expressing his views to which he remains as entitled as any American.
Never has any other US President faced as much undeserved scorn, scrutiny and suspicion yet come out looking dignified and 'above it all'.
Of course, it's mainly because he is a colored man! Americans remain, generally, a racist and prejudiced people.

Posted by: ib422000 | December 28, 2010 1:53 PM |
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What balderdash. However, spoken like a true Obama supporter:
just throw the blame elsewhere, play the race card (major insult)
and praise the POTUS for another "error." BTW, as president who makes "personal" calls and weighs in on a criminal, social, or any kind of issue---guess what, it is not personal, and we are entitled to know where he stands.

Posted by: pjcafe | December 28, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Here's the real issue: professional football will be regarded the same as Roman gladiatorial combat to the death for the pleasure of Caesar and the plebeian class. Vick got nailed for an activity that was once cheered and is now criminalized, much as cockfighting or bear baiting. So whether Vick is rehabbed or not, Vick did his time and should be commended. Some people will never be satisfied with less than the death penalty for dogfighting or dog torture/killing.

Would that Dan Snyder had had the stones to hire Vick rather than McNabb...maybe Snyder can borrow one of Hilary's. Then he'd have two.

Posted by: joy5 | December 28, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

The part Ezra forgot to post, was the fact that a number of trustworthy people not only mentored him after his incarceration, but they "vouched" for Vick and his post-incarceration rehabilitation. Tony Dungy and Donovan McNabb put their reputations on the line in both mentoring Vick and (afterward) vouching for the trustworthiness of Vick. If they had not done that, Vick would still be a former NFL QB. Vick had some growing up to do. He needed someone to set him on the right path and keep him there before anyone would trust him again.

The same argument holds for any criminal who has done time --just because you've done time, doesn't mean you're ready to reenter a position of trust in society. You have to earn the trust of someone who has proven they CAN follow basic societal rules. That's not the job of entry level work force employers, that's the job of people who can look after you through all hours of the day and week i.e. your pastor, your family, or a respected member of the community. Parole Officers aren't currently a good enough substitute.

Trust is the fundamental underpinning of any relationship. Someone who breaks the law, breaks the trust. Until someone proves that they can be trustworthy again (and simply serving time is not sufficient) there is no way they deserve to be employed.

I don't see a lot of people who are trustworthy, vouching for the previously incarcerated. So maybe that's where we need to focus our efforts, not trying to force employers to be hire un-rehabilitated criminals.

Building that trust back up is a long hard road, which is why most of us don't break the trust to begin with.

Posted by: FormerMCPSStudent | December 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

You will be hard pressed to find a single person condoning Mr. Vick's actions by any means nor is the President. Everyone deserves the RIGHT TO WORK!! Michael Vick's profession is FOOTBALL... HE WENT BACK TO WORK!!! Leave him alone and go and eat your meat sandwiches while you complain about animal cruelty!! Hypocrits!

Posted by: princenyht | December 28, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

President Obama needs to read more. I suggest he start with Roger Caras' Treasury of Great Dog Stories. Then president Obama needs to look at his own dog and think what Vick would do to his dog..betting thousands that it would fight to the death.

This is horrible and disappointing that the president would laud a person like Vick who has been so cruel to dogs.

"Dogs have given us their absolute all. We are the center of their universe. We are the focus of their love and faith and trust. They serve us in return for scraps. It is without a doubt the best deal man has ever made."--Roger Caras

Posted by: Grace61 | December 28, 2010 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Klein - Your deperate spinning of this incident is actually pretty funny. This has nothing to do with giving folks a second chance. Most people - I hope - don't want to see someone's life ruined over pot possession or even crack. But Mr. Vick is not a humble, contrite ex-offender that just wants a second chance. He's someone who lied and only confessed after co-defendants turned on him. And this is professional sports for christ's sake. I wish our president wasn't so enamored by professional athletes.

Posted by: Baltesq | December 28, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I spend my vacation at Dogtown (Kanabe, Utah) where 22 of the Vick dogs (who would have been put down) were sent. If you saw what this excuse for a man did to those beautiful dogs, you would know he should burn in hell vs being commended on serving his time. He didn't serve the time he should have, and he paid pennies on the dollar for the damage he did. Shame on the NFL for letting him play again and shame on any team who would hire him. Let him spend a month at Dogtown (without his media team) and give them the millions of dollars they deserve for his atrocious crimes . . . then maybe we can talk about a second chance.

Posted by: MsTreat | December 28, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I heard Obama puts Bo into the ring sometimes. Bo's got one strong ass bite.

Posted by: Baltesq | December 28, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"................So whether Vick is rehabbed or not, Vick did his time and should be commended......."

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Vick should not be "commended." For what?? For not breaking out of jail? For taking his millions?

He went to jail because he committed a crime. Why would you commend him for serving his time?? He got what he deserved and some would say it wasn't enough.
But COMMENDED - absolutely not!!

Posted by: pjcafe | December 28, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

I would save my sympathy for the innocent dogs that survived being tortured for profit by Michael Vick. He's a sociopath and the Eagles are a win-at-all-costs embarrassment. I don't watch their games and will not do so until Vick is injured or retired.

Posted by: dolph924 | December 28, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Would Obama weigh in on the plight of a DC ex-con desperately trying to find a job?

No. He doesn't care about those kind of black people. You gotta be well-connected to get his attention.

Posted by: drumcrn1 | December 28, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

What Vick did is horrible and disgusting. I love animals and have had many pets. If Vick were my neighbor, it would take a long time of getting to know him before I'd trust him with my dog. But I think that it is as simple as this:
- he served his time, he should be able to go back to work, and he has done so.

But it doesn't happen like that with many folks, and I feel bad especially for those serving time for lesser crimes than Michael Vick and with no adequate legal representation to begin with(marijuana convictions etc.).

All of you who are complaining about his ability to go back to work - I suggest that you campaign for making dogfigthing a crime worthy of "life in prison".

By the way, this really is a non-story...

Posted by: sharedgum | December 28, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

It would have been nice if Mr Klein had added a figure 5. One showing what Vick actually earns as an ex-convict. For any who are interested Vick's base salary is 5.25 million for the 2010 season. On top of that are bonuses,endorsement fees etc. In rough math Mr Vick earns roughly three thousand dollars an hour if one were to set his pay scale into a forty hour work week at 52 weeks per year.

I am sure this warms the hearts of ex cons everywhere knowing that they too may one day be rewarded by Mr Vick's shining example.

Seems to me Obama got screwed by Jeff Lurie if it is the case the he is the source of this story. I can't imagine any member of the White House Press saying to the President -"Let's use Michael Vick as an example of the average ex-con's plight in society.

In short Mr Klein, what an amazing lack of judgment on your part to include Figure 4 at the top of your piece, unless of course your sarcasm is so subtle as not to be gotten by the average reader.

Posted by: circuslion | December 28, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

First, the reason Obama said anything about Vick, is because Vick is black. I agree that Vick served the time, now leave him alone. Bleeding hearts worry about some mutts being killed, while they blindly turn their left ward leaning faces as they advocate murdering human babies. Typical hypocritical lefties.

Posted by: nomobarry | December 28, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

BO commented on Vick becasue he had to be the center of attention. That is what narcissists do.

Posted by: DCalle10411111 | December 28, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

if i was awhite man and did what vick did oboma sure wouldnt call me

Posted by: ernie0001 | December 28, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

The NFL didn't hire Vick back to show mercy toward a penitent soul. So why Obama saw fit to congratulate Lurie is totally beyond me. There's nothing civic-minded at all in what Lurie did. It's all about winning and money. This is not a case of Jean Valjean, as one of the other commentators pointed out.

Let's look at another scenario. Imagine that Vick (or some other NFL player) is not a dog murderer but a drunk driver who kills some kid while under the influence. But he's a great athlete, he does time for manslaughter, and the NFL welcomes him back into the fold. Would the President call the team owner and thank him for giving the guy a second chance? I would hope not, or he'd risk incurring the wrath of every mother in America. But in the uber-macho world of politics and sports, nothing would surprise me.

Posted by: msmihai | December 28, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

BTW, Vick got a very stiff penalty in this case. The judge (retarded Henry Hudson) gave him more time than the prosecutors requested. I was certainly glad to see him get it, but those who think he "got off easy" are thinking morally and not legally -- legally the book was thrown at him. I don't believe in the rehabilitation of sociopaths, however, even though I'm a "leftie" that so many air heads posting here love to hate.

Posted by: dolph924 | December 28, 2010 3:38 PM | Report abuse

It looks like the white house was caught in another lie. This one has to do with what they told the press about Obama's call to Jeffrey Lurie and the reason given for that call. According to the WH, Obama's call to Lurie was made primarily to discuss the owners decision to use alternative energy to power the Eagles Stadium. The discussion on Michael Vick came up as a side issue. According to the owner himself, Jeffrey Lurie, The president called to discuss two primary subjects. The first was Michael Vick where the president made a passionate plea for Lurie to reinstate Vick to the starting QB position. The second was the president's support to Lurie for using alternative energy for the stadium. When does the lying stop? It is happening too often and we the american people are the victims.

Posted by: lori9 | December 28, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

@jckdoors and there lies the problem..JEALOUSY!!! So if the Pres had said the same thing about Vick and he's working for $8 in a DC soup kitchen then everything would be fine??? Like A LOT of people are making the point he's allowed to make a living and his living is FB which he's proven he's VERY good at doing. Vick didn't know he would have this kind of attention, success etc. I believe he genuinely thought it was over so all you JEALOUS people can back off!!!! SPORTS fans have taken over since Vick falls into the same category as those ex cons in DC working for low wages trying to get a FRESH START!!!!! I watched his stupid reality show, which I'm glad he cancelled, and I beleive he realizes what he did to his family (and innocent animals) was VERY sad!!!!!

Posted by: MDlady2 | December 28, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

And of course by weighing in on Vick, Obama doesn't have to regard the millions that never got jobs from the failed Bush tax cuts, that he just caved in on...

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Posted by: RField7 | December 28, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Felons can't vote. That was why this story was leaked. Consider it the first salvo from the POTUS to end "felon disenfranchisement". If Michael Vick can emerge from prison and bring his NFL team to the playoffs and maybe the Super Bowl, then why shouldn't he and other "rehabilitated" felons have their voting rights restored. The fact that Senator Franken's "victory" in Minnesota was decided by felons voting illegally is not lost on the Democrat Party. With nearly 5 million felons sympathetic to government dependency and ineligible to vote, who would no doubt pull the lever marked "D" , you can count on a significant push by the Dems to restore this "human right".

Posted by: carolinadreams | December 28, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Ezra, you are so funny - did you ever think about working in a circus as a clown? Obambam has absolutely no interest in running the country and if he really cared about felons (or anyone else for that matter), he would work on reviving the economy. So, the Philly Eagles gave one ex-con, who happened to have amazing physical skills, the opportunity to play ball. Even if this was the motivation behind Obambam's call, surely the press dubbed "genius" President would know that only a rare few could ever achieve what Vick did and if Obambam really cared about ex-cons, he would engage himself in assuring educational opportunities, rehab, etc. No, this was all grandstanding by the self-agrandizing man-child President. It is astonding how the 4th estate has become the Obambam cheer leading academy.

Posted by: freepost | December 28, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

As for Pres Obama commenting on Vick, I don't think for one minute the Pres is allowed to forget he's a BLACK man and the prisons are full of them. The Pres is allowed personal opinions and conversations...geesh!!! Did he give up the blackberry? hahahaha

Posted by: MDlady2 | December 28, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I don't know if it was sincere or not but Vick at least apologized for what he did. Thus far, Obama is worse than oblivious about the harm he has done...he even seems to take pride in it.

Posted by: CincinnatiRIck | December 28, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Ok now that Obama has accepted Vick as a repented Dog Killer.. will he make a pitch to have Pete Rose accepted in the Baseball Hall of fame?? after all ... Pete ONLY lied about Betting on Ball Games...

Posted by: redhawk2 | December 28, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

If the President crapped into a cup and fed it to a homeless person, the press would weave it into a story praising him for his charity.

Posted by: freepost | December 28, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Bloody paw prints on the sides of the empty swimming pool where Vick "humanely" executed the dogs he no longer wanted.

Granted, Obama is not an animal person and wasn't raised around them. But it seems to me that anyone with even a modicum of humanity and compassion in their soul would recoil from supporting the perpetrator of such mindless cruelty.

As far as I'm concerned, it's not a matter of whether a money-making football player who is an ex-convict deserves a second chance. It's a matter of the President of the United States standing up for a truly contemptible, cruel and vicious barely human being.

Posted by: nicekid | December 28, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

obama weighed in on vic because he does not know how to keep his racist black street organise mouth shut.

Posted by: dagner49 | December 28, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

obama weighed in on vic because he does not know how to keep his racist black street organise mouth shut.

Posted by: dagner49 | December 28, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Even a knuckle-dragger like Limbaugh forgave Vick.

The two states that allow prison inmates to vote are N.H. and Maine. Many have quite conservative voting prefrences. Other states have restored former felons voting rights.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/19/AR2010101904133.html

Obama's stance is a little curious. Maybe he was trying to lock up the dog-killer and ex-felon demographic for 2012.

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Posted by: MerrillFrank | December 28, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

I bet Bob Lurie is going "green". It's the only color that matters, and he's making a fistful of dollars off of Michael Vick.

Posted by: redhotCAPSaicin | December 28, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Deeply, deeply disappointed in Obama--and I am a huge fan of him. I voted for him in '08 and almost certainly will do so again. But if he cares about the reintegration of convicts, he picked the absolute worst example he could. Vicks deserves no one's compassion whatsoever--he wasn't "given a chance," the Eagles owner made a calculated choice to hire the best hired thug. The man is a sociopath and I hope he chokes on his insincere apologetic mouthings. Lest we forget Vicks HANGED DOGS. Really sit down and think about that, about how those animals suffered--and all because they lost a stupid fight. Just unbelievable. So terribly sad.

I really hope that Obama who minimizes this (and Whoopie Goldberg who minimized Vicks' murders by breezily explaining it away as "not all that unusual" in the South"--uh, Whoopie, shut up about the South, you're not from there, you know nothing about it--no, we do not murder animals here) figures out how offensive his phone call was. I think wanting to help convicts reintegrate is a truly admirable cause, but he picked a terrible example. Go find some small business that's hired a guy who can't throw a football.

Posted by: NYC123 | December 28, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy WH's smoothing it over one bit. I am really disappointed. Vick is not one of those imprisoned for crimes of passion or because he grew up in terrible circumstances which pushed to unlawful acts. He was and I'm sure is a millionaire many times over and in a position to be a role model for countless youths who are disadvantaged. But instead he wholeheartedly devoted himself to torturing and maiming helpless innocent animals. How dispicable can you be? He has absolutely no excuse whatsoever. There are thousands and thousands of worthy causes out there and the President had to pick this one. I can't help feeling Obama is losing touch with the sensitivity of general public, all of us! Wake up, Mr. President, and come down to our level and reconnect before it's too late!

Posted by: pelohoki | December 28, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I would like to know what Vick has learned since his conviction and when he learned it. I find it really scary that anyone, especially an adult, would drown and electrocute dogs. I guess that putting him on a football field is a good place for him, but, I wonder, would Obama hire an 'ex' child molester to take care of his children--after all, they have a hard time getting jobs, too, and, they have 'paid their debt to society'. Obama is so out of touch with reality and common sense, but, people still defend him. Why?

Posted by: coffic | December 28, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

For Heaven's sake; Mr Vick was involved in the rearing of dogs for fighting, exposing them to this horrible existence and sending them to their deaths using various methods. There is nothing good about that. It cost him his name, his freedom and more than a hundred million dollars. We have some athletes who are no more than sperm donors, in their involvement with their offspring. There are those whom have driven while under the influence of something and been involved in accidents, some fatal. There are abusers of women, including their wives and girlfriends. Mr Vick deserves the chance that he has worked for and, in my opinion, far more worthy of it than others whose offenses come to mind. They get a comparable wrist slap compared with the appropriate punishment for which Mr Vick worked. His is a work of redemption in progress and with a maintained improved attitude could be a source of hope and pride for other young people.

Posted by: Draesop | December 28, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Don46, dolph924, sharedgum, truck1,

How many animals did you have slaughtered this year so you could eat the animal meat you probably eat every day? Dogs are just more animals that people happen to allow in their homes and beds. If fact we ourselves are nothing more than animals. Animals kill other animals to survive every day. It does not matter if it happens in an abattoir or the Serengeti. This is nature. Our selective choice to think some animals are better than others is pure hypocrisy and complete ignorance of the natural world. Explain to me please the difference between killing a dog and killing a pig, cow or chicken?

Posted by: thw2001 | December 28, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

When Tom Brady wins MVP, will the Chicago Miracle call and congratulate him?

Some say that Vick is a possible candidate for MVP. That is almost, but not quite, as preposterous as Little Barry being given the Nobel Prize.

Its not far fetched to predict the howls of racism when Brady takes the prize.

I can hear the little one now saying someone "acted stupidly."

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | December 28, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Sports fanatics are the scariest form of life -- even more frightening than liberal democrats.

Posted by: BadNews | December 28, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: FormerDemocrat | December 28, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

The more I think about it, the more angrier I'm getting. This article seems to lay blame on the convicts making less money on the rest of us! You commit a crime and you're supposed to pay and there is a consequence. Giving second chance to someone who's truly remorseful, I can understand but Vick? Come on, Mr. President. I voted for Obama but this one is like a cold water thrown on my face to rethink who he really is, perhaps not the one truly stand up for justice, fairness, etc. What about all those innocent dogs Vick tortured and maimed? And while we're at it, what about all the unemployed people particularly nearing retirement suffering and going through anguish through truly no fault of their own? Do make some sort of gestures to comfort and stand up for people who are worthy but NOT VICK for goodness sake!

Posted by: pelohoki | December 28, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Vick is a cruel human being that plays a child's game . . . a perfect intellectual companion for Obama.

Posted by: rplat | December 28, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

I am curious if Obama would have made the call if Vick were a white man. I seriously doubt it.

Posted by: sambird | December 28, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

GOOD NEWS, KID

You are as lame about criminal justice as economics.

Of course, you want ex-felons to vote ASAP, so your BFF OWEbama can get re-elected. Ditto, all the ILLEGALS.

Over the dead bodies of WORKING Americans, Kid.

You and OWEbama fix the MESS Bwarney Fwrank left, first. Nothing else, one second sooner.

Nov. 6, 2012 -- retire O-BOW-DOWN.

Posted by: BHO_ONE_TERM | December 28, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh my goodness. JournOlister Klein has to back up Obamageddon on his Michael Vick comments.

Would Young Ezra like to spoon feed Lil' Owie his gerbers too?

Who has ever seen more people giving a president advice from every single perspective on every single issue as if he were a child. Forget the fact that he is. Or, to be fair, a naive young man who can't tell the real world from a Harvard 101 psyche class.

Doesn't it ever occur to you guys that this need to coddle and consult Owie constantly shows that even his biggest fans don't think he can tie his shoes properly?

Posted by: tom75 | December 28, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

The NFL Employe ex-convicts?

Posted by: mahonie1234 | December 28, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Obama is half white/half black and desperately needs cred in the black barbershops found in every major U.S. city in Murika. Brother Barry thinks he can take it to 2012 and reelection but he doesn't get it. White men, independents and dog lovers look at this sorry clown in the White House and wonder why we elected him.

Posted by: a101 | December 28, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Deeply, deeply disappointed in Obama--and I am a huge fan of him. I voted for him in '08 and almost certainly will do so again. But if he cares about the reintegration of convicts, he picked the absolute worst example he could. Vicks deserves no one's compassion whatsoever--he wasn't "given a chance," the Eagles owner made a calculated choice to hire the best hired thug.

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Agreed. There are so many ex-cons who are working in soup kitchens and gang interventions who are worthy of the president's praise. For someone who is lauded for his supposed intellect I really wonder about his judgment.

Posted by: bbface21 | December 28, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Remember when America had a REAL President?

Obama's now praising CONVICTS....It seems like a PRESIDENT would have more important things to do than worry about the energy efficiency of football stadiums and what CONVICTED DOG KILLER AND TORTURER is doing....

Also interesting the droves of those who CAN'T WAIT to jump in and ATTEMPT to defend ANYTHING Obama and ConVict do--no matter how egregious/heinous/CRIMINAL.

Posted by: mengelewasaboyscout | December 28, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Remember when America had a REAL President?

Obama's now praising CONVICTS....It seems like a PRESIDENT would have more important things to do than worry about the energy efficiency of football stadiums and what CONVICTED DOG KILLER AND TORTURER is doing....

Also interesting the droves of those who CAN'T WAIT to jump in and ATTEMPT to defend ANYTHING Obama and ConVict do--no matter how egregious/heinous/CRIMINAL.

Posted by: mengelewasaboyscout | December 28, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

President Obama, you lye down with dogs you get fleas. Bad choice to side with a thug like Vick. He has the look of a killer careful of the company you keep!

Posted by: JWTX | December 28, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama has a ulterior motive for contacting

the Eagles, and in addition, it just goes

to show you that Obama, the POTUS does

not think in terms of his position, if

you follow, therefore, it is no wonder that

everything that he touches has the touch

of not Midas, but rather of entities that

are not positive for the United States:

Obamacare and his New Start Treaty.

Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 28, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

I think Vick paid his price to society and has been reformed. His return and his efforts to redeem his life is a good story. But when you're talking about the President of the U.S., it should be a non-story. What about a looming war in Korea, Chinese success at building a missle that can destroy an American carrier. The President of the U.S. should not be calling the owner of a football team to chat about energy efficiency in a football stadium or the return of Michael Vick!!! There is a serious flaw in Obama that the coolest gig he's found about being the Commander in Chief is that he can now call any sports celebrity. Sounds like Obama is networking to land a job in professional sports after he loses the 2012 election.

Posted by: hokie92 | December 28, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse


"Why Obama weighed in on behalf of Michael Vick"==================================================================================== Because he cant help himself!!

Posted by: votingrevolution1 | December 28, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Vick's story is not about giving an ex-con a second chance. It's about money and greed on the part of the owners and the league. It's also about how those with money have more of a second chance (if not 3rd, 4th, ..., and endless is some cases). Vick hasn't shown any remorse, rather he's just learned to control his image for $. Look at LT, who might have had a more meaningful life had the NFL has enough balls to show him tough love. NFL went soft on him just to make money off of him for as long as they could.

As if Obama and the White House needed distractions about now.

Posted by: shhhhh | December 28, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Having worked with felons on substance abuse and anger after they were released from prison on parole having served their sentence, most of them found it very difficult to find jobs and get back to an ordinary life, many with families, children. Such difficulties made the prospect of going back to crime all the more attractive as there didn't seem much in the way of an alternative.

Posted by: TabLUnoLCSWfromUtah | December 28, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Would Obama have called if ConVict were White?

Not a CHANCE.

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Posted by: mengelewasaboyscout | December 28, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Would Obama have called if ConVict were White?

Not a CHANCE.

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Posted by: mengelewasaboyscout | December 28, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

Michael Vick and his friend picked up a 35 lb. malnourished dog who wouldn't fight by its ankles and slammed it repeatedly to the ground until its skull and vertebrae were fractured to the point of death. And this is just the story that I can't get out of my head after reading "The Lost Dogs" by Jim Gorant. There are other stories about hangings and drownings and electrocution. Keep in mind that this heavily funded organization possessed veterinary drugs that could have humanely put these dogs out of their misery. Michael Vick is not a shoplifter; he finds entertainment in torturing dogs. So did Ted Bundy and John Wayne Gacy. His sentence was light and his future employer really didn't have much to lose. If it all went wrong, he's got a full PR team to dig him out of it.

If Obama wanted to waste valuable time with thank yous, he could have tried thanking numerous organizations like badrap.org and bestfriends.org who spent countless hours evaluating and eventually rescuing 47 Vicktims...dogs so fearful that they would lay flat on the ground and not move when a human was around. It was only after the US attorney filed papers to freeze Vick's assets that he forked over the money to pay the expenses for their rehabilitation...after buying his mother a $90,000 Mercedes. Sound like remorse to you?

Obama should have picked a better released convict as well as an employer with more to lose if all goes wrong. I'm just thoroughly disgusted with his poor judgment.

Posted by: Gracie99 | December 28, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of barf.
Trying to make this look like a phone call to talk with Lurie about green building techniques for his stadium. Right.

Trying to make this look like the poor ex-con Michael Vick having trouble finding work by putting up bar charts comparing people who made $35K before jail and $27K after jail. Please. Vick is a millionaire and if the Lurie doesn't want him someone else will take him in a New York second.

This is just the black president putting his big nose into a problem involving another black guy. It is the same phony interest in keeping black idiots -- like the college professor who got arrested for being a jerk with a cop -- out of trouble.

Mr. Regular Guy Community Organizer --We are tired of your racist outlook.

Posted by: jimbob3 | December 28, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

What a bunch of barf.
Trying to make this look like a phone call to talk with Lurie about green building techniques for his stadium. Right.

Trying to make this look like the poor ex-con Michael Vick having trouble finding work by putting up bar charts comparing people who made $35K before jail and $27K after jail. Please. Vick is a millionaire and if the Lurie doesn't want him someone else will take him in a New York second.

This is just the black president putting his big nose into a problem involving another black guy. It is the same phony interest in keeping black idiots -- like the college professor who got arrested for being a jerk with a cop -- out of trouble.

Mr. Regular Guy Community Organizer --We are tired of your racist outlook.

Posted by: jimbob3 | December 28, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Sadly for this country, this president has turned out to be a disappointing joke. I did like how PETA came to Obama's defense though - kind of like when NOW defended Clinton over Lewinsky. All of these liberal so-called committed and sincere advocates throw their principles out the window as soon as one of their ideological allies gets in trouble.

Posted by: Baltesq | December 28, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Vick = OJ of the future....

Obama.....No future...

Posted by: ezwriter | December 28, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

It's all about the money, not integrity.

For Obama to get involved in this issue,

identifies him to the core. This is the

man that millions of Americans have put

their faith into guiding this country

through its times of peril, but it

appears that if Obama cannot be trusted

to use sound judgement in coping with this

simple issue, then how can we expect him

to use reliable political discernment in

events that may involve the survival of

the United States of America?


Posted by: dennishabern1 | December 28, 2010 5:56 PM | Report abuse

I am truly saddened to see the President of the United States lower himself and the office of the presidency to offer unsolicited support for Michael Vick, who was convicted of the most atrocious acts of animal cruelty. I am further saddened that a Washington Post reporter would imply this was a good outcome. How far have we sunk!!!

Posted by: LouisWMcHardySr | December 28, 2010 6:01 PM | Report abuse

Vick = OJ of the future...
Obama = death panels of the future...

Posted by: ezwriter | December 28, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Vick served his time. Scooter Libby, who helped out a CIA agent and lied about it, didn't. George W. Bush commuted his 30-month sentence before he served a day.

Posted by: bdunn1 | December 28, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Just a little perspective for everyone who seems to want Vick put to death for what he's done; what he did to the dogs was unconscionable and wrong, but if you've ever eaten factory-raised meat, you've paid someone to do similar to a farm animal.

Posted by: axisdboy | December 28, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, the intervention by President Obama has elevated the cause of the Dog Killer to acceptability. And while there is a segment of the population that will accept and forgive Michael Vick because he is doing precisely the same thing that they want to do (or are doing), the fact remains that the bilge that Ezra stated doesn't apply to Michael Vick.

Let's first dispense with Vick having "paid for his crime". That is a purely ludicrous notion. One doesn't "pay for murder" and as much as the left elevates the cause of animals, I find it odd that one can "pay for killing animals" and "profiting from doing it". As the Left is so quit to always point out, animals have rights and humans have no right to determine the grounds of animal lives. When people raise animals for meat, the left is so quick to whine about the conditions that these animals are raised in and then in the ultimate end of the animals lives.

It is odd, therefore, when a man creates a business environment predicated on intentionally inflicting pain and suffering on animals and then personally and brutally killed those animals, that we can suddenly find it in our hearts to find redemption in him. This is especially odd to find it in our hearts to forgive a man whose entire life has been a poster child for incarceration and illicit actions off the field. And as a resident of his hometown, I am not so quick to see a life long pattern of walking on the wrong side of the law as so easily changed by an incarceration experience.

And so we have Vick who is said to have lost it all suddenly now having a second chance in the limelight that few people have a chance to do once. Across the country there are athletes who have been law-abiding citizens who never get a chance that Vick had once. Now he gets a second chance after having committed some of the most heinous acts a person can commit.

Perhaps in the real world when you can believe a man's heart has changed, we could see it by active and TOTAL commitment to animal rights and protection. However, Michael Vick didn't choose that route - he chose a selfish pursuit to regain his stardom - flaunting his status in our faces. And while a life of caring for animals wouldn't have afforded him the life he knew and at the level he knew, we'd at least get see a genuine concern for protecting animals and a real change.

The only thing that has changed is that A DOG KILLER is GETTING A SECOND CHANCE and is being PRAISED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Instead of making Vick the poster child for what happens when you bash dogs to death, we have instead made him into "crime pays so long as you are a big enough selfish person to con others into thinking you changed."

In the end, Vick should have been banned for life from the NFL and made to face his crimes by spending the rest of his life paying for it through hard work and prevented from having his life back.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 28, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Sadly, the intervention by President Obama has elevated the cause of the Dog Killer to acceptability. And while there is a segment of the population that will accept and forgive Michael Vick because he is doing precisely the same thing that they want to do (or are doing), the fact remains that the bilge that Ezra stated doesn't apply to Michael Vick.

Let's first dispense with Vick having "paid for his crime". That is a purely ludicrous notion. One doesn't "pay for murder" and as much as the left elevates the cause of animals, I find it odd that one can "pay for killing animals" and "profiting from doing it". As the Left is so quit to always point out, animals have rights and humans have no right to determine the grounds of animal lives. When people raise animals for meat, the left is so quick to whine about the conditions that these animals are raised in and then in the ultimate end of the animals lives.

It is odd, therefore, when a man creates a business environment predicated on intentionally inflicting pain and suffering on animals and then personally and brutally killed those animals, that we can suddenly find it in our hearts to find redemption in him. This is especially odd to find it in our hearts to forgive a man whose entire life has been a poster child for incarceration and illicit actions off the field. And as a resident of his hometown, I am not so quick to see a life long pattern of walking on the wrong side of the law as so easily changed by an incarceration experience.

And so we have Vick who is said to have lost it all suddenly now having a second chance in the limelight that few people have a chance to do once. Across the country there are athletes who have been law-abiding citizens who never get a chance that Vick had once. Now he gets a second chance after having committed some of the most heinous acts a person can commit.

Perhaps in the real world when you can believe a man's heart has changed, we could see it by active and TOTAL commitment to animal rights and protection. However, Michael Vick didn't choose that route - he chose a selfish pursuit to regain his stardom - flaunting his status in our faces. And while a life of caring for animals wouldn't have afforded him the life he knew and at the level he knew, we'd at least get see a genuine concern for protecting animals and a real change.

The only thing that has changed is that A DOG KILLER is GETTING A SECOND CHANCE and is being PRAISED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. Instead of making Vick the poster child for what happens when you bash dogs to death, we have instead made him into "crime pays so long as you are a big enough selfish person to con others into thinking you changed."

In the end, Vick should have been banned for life from the NFL and made to face his crimes by spending the rest of his life paying for it through hard work and prevented from having his life back.

Posted by: laserwizard | December 28, 2010 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Vick served his time. Scooter Libby, who helped out a CIA agent and lied about it, didn't. George W. Bush commuted his 30-month sentence before he served a day
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | December 28, 2010 6:13 PM | Report abuse

"Why Obama weighed in on behalf of Michael Vick"

"Why The COLON powell pi**ed on his party to support "You Lie!" hussein"

and on, and on, and on...

RACISTS support their RACE no matter what.

ONLY the lunatic-left doesn't get it.The rest of us do.

Posted by: TeaPartyPatriot | December 28, 2010 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Dumb article - Why? - because every single person on this planet knows why Obama weighed in on Vick.

Posted by: 2012frank | December 28, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Vick served his time. Scooter Libby, who helped out a CIA agent and lied about it, didn't. George W. Bush commuted his 30-month sentence before he served a day
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If one was to put out an advertisement, and offer 100,000 USD for the perfect example of leftist idiocy - there could be no better example.

Libby did not help or out anyone. Plame was not under cover status and best of all, the guy who did utter Plame's blessed name was a renown Bush hater - Rich Armatige.

Come on 2012. We can only hope and pray that these folks stay at the socialist propaganda counter, handing out leaflets.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | December 28, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick to death of the media defending Michael Vick. He's not some pitiful guy who made a mistake (such as drugs) which chiefly hurt no one but himself. He's a sadistic killer.

And please, must we turn EVERY story into a conservative vs. liberals issue? Dog fighters are jerks, period. This is something most decent people can agree on, regardless of political affiliation.

If the president wanted to reference an appropriate role model for prison rehabilitation, he'd have done better to look towards Villa Lobos. This rescue ranch offers a second chance to both convicts and pit bulls, and in many cases, literally changes lives.

Posted by: julir7 | December 28, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Hats off to all concerned. Forgiveness is a virtue as is compassion. Conservation of energy is a must.

Posted by: outridercastle | December 28, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

I'm sick to death of the media defending Michael Vick. He's not some pitiful guy who made a mistake (such as drugs) which chiefly hurt no one but himself. He's a sadistic killer.

And please, must we turn EVERY story into a conservative vs. liberals issue? Dog fighters are jerks, period. This is something most decent people can agree on, regardless of political affiliation.

If the president wanted to reference an appropriate role model for prison rehabilitation, he'd have done better to look towards Villa Lobos. This rescue ranch offers a second chance to both convicts and pit bulls, and in many cases, literally changes lives.

Posted by: julir7 | December 28, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Obama is "passionate" about the fact that "it's never a level playing field for prisoners when they get out of jail. And he was happy that we did something on such a national stage that showed our faith in giving someone a second chance after such a major downfall.''
----------------------------------------------
Ya, it was great that the owner gave the poor slob another chance. The fact that Vick has superior athletic talent had nothing to do w/ Lurie's decision. In our society, if you can help the team win games, all sins are forgiven. If Vick didn't have athletic talent, he'd be lucky to get a job mopping floors at McDonald's.

Posted by: randysbailin | December 28, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

WHY OBAMA WEIGHED IN ON BEHALF OF MICHAEL VICK

Because he's a dumb@ss who has no clue what it takes to lead a country, and has never risen above the mentality of a Chicago community agitator.

Posted by: pgr88 | December 28, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Gandhi said the greatness of a nation shall be judged by how it treats its animals. As far as I'm concerned, this president I voted for blew it.

Posted by: sarahabc | December 28, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

It never ceases to amaze me that our nation likes to think of itself as a Christian nation, but is unwilling to give people a second chance.

Obama knows we send many folks to our prisons for minor offenses, like 4 ounces of pot, and they remain prisoners of our society for a lifetime even when they get out of prison. It is a waste of taxpayer dollars for us to continue the war on drugs and send these folks, and others, to prison for different offenses especially since many are minor. But more! It is a waste of human life when such folks could contribute to making our nation a better place, if given a second chance, and be responsible taxpaying citizens too.

Obama did not come out and make a public announcement. But I'm glad he said what he said. Having worked with felons who want to get back into the workforce after completing their sentences and contribute both to society and their families, I know there are very few--yes, very, very, very few businesses--which will give ex-prisoners an opportunity for employment to once again support their families. For example, in my city of 50,000 plus, only two businesses will give felons a second chance. And the big corporations will not even touch them regardless of the offense.

If Obama was looking forward to the 2012 election, he wouldn't have said that. But he showed a real core value he has for human beings, and not just dogs, namely: a genuine concern for giving people in life a second chance. At one time in our history, that value was treasured, considered worthwhile, and highly prized. But apparently, it is not today.

Posted by: wmdteam | December 28, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

It never ceases to amaze me that our nation likes to think of itself as a Christian nation, but is unwilling to give people a second chance.

Obama knows we send many folks to our prisons for minor offenses, like 4 ounces of pot, and they remain prisoners of our society for a lifetime even when they get out of prison. It is a waste of taxpayer dollars for us to continue the war on drugs and send these folks, and others, to prison for different offenses especially since many are minor. But more! It is a waste of human life when such folks could contribute to making our nation a better place, if given a second chance, and be responsible taxpaying citizens too.

Obama did not come out and make a public announcement. But I'm glad he said what he said. Having worked with felons who want to get back into the workforce after completing their sentences and contribute both to society and their families, I know there are very few--yes, very, very, very few businesses--which will give ex-prisoners an opportunity for employment to once again support their families. For example, in my city of 50,000 plus, only two businesses will give felons a second chance. And the big corporations will not even touch them regardless of the offense.

If Obama was looking forward to the 2012 election, he wouldn't have said that. But he showed a real core value he has for human beings, and not just dogs, namely: a genuine concern for giving people in life a second chance. At one time in our history, that value was treasured, considered worthwhile, and highly prized. But apparently, it is not today.

Posted by: wmdteam | December 28, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

It never ceases to amaze me that our nation likes to think of itself as a Christian nation, but is unwilling to give people a second chance.

Obama knows we send many folks to our prisons for minor offenses, like 4 ounces of pot, and they remain prisoners of our society for a lifetime even when they get out of prison. It is a waste of taxpayer dollars for us to continue the war on drugs and send these folks, and others, to prison for different offenses especially since many are minor. But more! It is a waste of human life when such folks could contribute to making our nation a better place, if given a second chance, and be responsible taxpaying citizens too.

Obama did not come out and make a public announcement. But I'm glad he said what he said. Having worked with felons who want to get back into the workforce after completing their sentences and contribute both to society and their families, I know there are very few--yes, very, very, very few businesses--which will give ex-prisoners an opportunity for employment to once again support their families. For example, in my city of 50,000 plus, only two businesses will give felons a second chance. And the big corporations will not even touch them regardless of the offense.

If Obama was looking forward to the 2012 election, he wouldn't have said that. But he showed a real core value he has for human beings, and not just dogs, namely: a genuine concern for giving people in life a second chance. At one time in our history, that value was treasured, considered worthwhile, and highly prized. But apparently, it is not today.

Posted by: wmdteam | December 28, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

It never ceases to amaze me that our nation likes to think of itself as a Christian nation, but is unwilling to give people a second chance.

Obama knows we send many folks to our prisons for minor offenses, like 4 ounces of pot, and they remain prisoners of our society for a lifetime even when they get out of prison. It is a waste of taxpayer dollars for us to continue the war on drugs and send these folks, and others, to prison for different offenses especially since many are minor. But more! It is a waste of human life when such folks could contribute to making our nation a better place, if given a second chance, and be responsible taxpaying citizens too.

Obama did not come out and make a public announcement. But I'm glad he said what he said. Having worked with felons who want to get back into the workforce after completing their sentences and contribute both to society and their families, I know there are very few--yes, very, very, very few businesses--which will give ex-prisoners an opportunity for employment to once again support their families. For example, in my city of 50,000 plus, only two businesses will give felons a second chance. And the big corporations will not even touch them regardless of the offense.

If Obama was looking forward to the 2012 election, he wouldn't have said that. But he showed a real core value he has for human beings, and not just dogs, namely: a genuine concern for giving people in life a second chance. At one time in our history, that value was treasured, considered worthwhile, and highly prized. But apparently, it is not today.

Posted by: wmdteam | December 28, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

How does the President of the United States, who is focusing like a laser on jobs, have time for this dribble?

Posted by: rteske | December 28, 2010 7:19 PM | Report abuse

As a country that has jails full of black people, redemption of a black man is important.
Redemption is not a word we use for the white greedy fools who led our country into disaster. Redemption is not a word white politicos use when they ask us to excuse their pathetic behaviour.

Posted by: JillCalifornia | December 28, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Obama finally got one right.

Vick is proving he deserves a second chance.

He did his time, which is more than most people do for the wrongs they do. We should give him a break now, and give him credit for the good he does.

Posted by: Benson | December 28, 2010 7:32 PM | Report abuse

Why did Obama weigh in? Because, just like the somali pirates our seals whacked, obama has more in common with the dirt bags than America. Just like the "stupidly" remark when his little howler monkey friend was jacked up by the Boston police - he sides with the racism first crowd.

He is a third world POS. First and foremost.

Posted by: VirginiaConservative | December 28, 2010 7:35 PM | Report abuse

Because he is a moron.

Posted by: mpg515 | December 28, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Astrology of Obama says

this week you will be confronted face-to-face

with your shadow.

blew it pusszie.

lost the presidency

Posted by: John_Chas_Webb | December 28, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

If Vick is the most important issue on Obama's plate then how important can he be to us?
This phony is sticking his nose into something that is none of his business. (Again!)
How about your birth certificate, school records and passport history Mr. Honesty?

Until I see them, Obama is a three dollar phony ineligible to be president and should be prosecuted!

Posted by: TexRancher | December 28, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse


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Posted by: John_Chas_Webb | December 28, 2010 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Oh, come on Ezra! Give up the Obama fluffing with this spin. Let Vick dog-sit Bo on his next vacation if Obama is so sure of Vick's rehabilitation.

Posted by: rdklingus | December 28, 2010 7:59 PM | Report abuse

The outrage and, for me, disappointment is not that Obama supported an ex-con. It's the nature of Vick's crimes that is so disturbing.

Vick represents killing and torturing animals for at least five years. Vick soaked a dog down with water and electrocuted him. When hanging didn't kill three dogs he drowned them. The president, in effect, linked his office to these vile crimes when he threw his weight behind the Eagles and Vick. I usually like Obama, but this was a mistake.

Posted by: matman1 | December 28, 2010 8:06 PM | Report abuse

And what about the labor union get together at the White House
last week??

Secret or just MSM protection!

Obama is a Marxist!

Posted by: jjcrocket13 | December 28, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

Dog Killers Deserve a Second Chance, Pedophiles Deserve a Second Chance,
Murderers Deserve a Second Chance,
Spousal Abusers Deserve a Second Chance,
Banking Thieves Deserve a Second Chance,
Bernie Madoff Deserves a Second Chance,
Terrorists Deserve a Second Chance,
Barack Obama Deserves a Second Chance.
Life is about second chances after trying to get over.

Posted by: matrox | December 28, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

While Obama is busy racking up black votes, he's lost a lot of his base. This Vick episode is just appalling, plain and simple. Vick kept talking about bad company, do-fighting being a culture, not knowing its illegality, etc., but he never talked about how he felt about his victims, the dogs that were tortured, personally hanged, drowned, slammed until they die. Are those the signs of someone rehabilitated? Not a chance! I don't know what's in his mind, but Obama just doesn't get it.

Posted by: KT11 | December 28, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

This is really really a low point for Obama to allow himself to show support for this sick basturd. This was not just a whim for Vick to kill one dog, he killed countless dogs in cruel ways. Obama you can do better than that. Vick was not brought back as quarter back out of the goodness of other peoples hearts, he was brought back because others saw $$$ signs. A lot more better people deserve a job other than Vick.

Posted by: matrox | December 28, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

I personally have no respect for Vick and somehow believe he won't last the season. I get the feeling he will end his season with his throwing arm broken in 3 places along with a dislocated shoulder.

Posted by: matrox | December 28, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

Back in the old days, with someone hawking newspapers on a street corner, the pitch would've been: "Extra, extra, real all about it. President endorses dog fighting."

Posted by: randysbailin | December 28, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

What an idiot prez. What about my black brother who died in Afghanistan? Did mr 0 idiot personally call to wish the family well?

All the problems mr idiot needs to solve he brags on a known crook.

What about the economy? Mr idiot step down and put a profession in office.

We need a voter revolt. No violent, just calmly get signatures up to votes these yoyo out of office at will..

Posted by: billisnice | December 28, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

What an idiot prez. What about my black brother who died in Afghanistan? Did mr 0 idiot personally call to wish the family well?

All the problems mr idiot needs to solve he brags on a known crook.

What about the economy? Mr idiot step down and put a profession in office.

We need a voter revolt. No violent, just calmly get signatures up to votes these yoyo out of office at will..

Posted by: billisnice | December 28, 2010 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Vick is a great player, and has paid his debt to society.

I hope he has even more success, and proves his detractors wrong. America usually supports second chances.

Posted by: Benson | December 28, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

This president has way too much time to play, watch, and comment on sports. How about paying more attention to our nation's priorities?

Posted by: bmayhewbz@hotmail.com | December 28, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Faulty logic as the income was obtained illegally to begin with. Try, again, please.

Posted by: KDSmallJr | December 28, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Vick served his time. Scooter Libby, who helped out a CIA agent and lied about it, didn't. George W. Bush commuted his 30-month sentence before he served a day. Dick Cheney was also complicit but was (and is still) too powerful to prosecute for his crimes.

Posted by: bdunn1 | December 28, 2010 9:15 PM | Report abuse

Obama hates dogs and he's a D-Bag, that's why.

Posted by: grunk | December 28, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Obama sneezes, the bashing begins. Sometimes he just shows up and the bashing begins.
Now we're criticizing a personal phone call ha made, expressing his views to which he remains as entitled as any American.
Never has any other US President faced as much undeserved scorn, scrutiny and suspicion yet come out looking dignified and 'above it all'.
Of course, it's mainly because he is a colored man! Americans remain, generally, a racist and prejudiced people.


----------------------------------------------------------

Didn't the American people vote him in? It wasn't just blacks, they only account for 12% of the population.

Posted by: Redskin_in_miami | December 28, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

My God, liberals are sick people.

Posted by: DCer1 | December 28, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Mr. President, no matter what you do some people will ALWAY'S COMPLAIN, you are Damed if you Do and Damed if you don't, Please Peolpe STOP COMPLAING about EVERYTHING, you will never be Happy, Look at yourself and life then complain,get your life and concern's together first, you see fault in other's What about YOU?

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Posted by: zhengee86 | December 28, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Any chance he wants to make Vick MVP? Any racial reason for this? Just saying.

Posted by: wjc1va | December 28, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

It absolutely amazes me how I could like the President while he was campaigning and it seems like every freaking day since he has been President and in this case with the Vick thing the overwhelming majority of people despise Micheal Vick for what he did with those Dogs. It's deplorable!! So here is the President again going against the Grain of the People and making this call to the Eagles Owner and making that damn statement. Who is responsible for advising this loose Cannon we elected President. This totally tells me all I need to know about this Empty Suit in the White House. Everything he does goes against popular sentiment other than the Wacko Leftist who still stand behind him and for the life of me I can't understand why.

Klein I am going to ask you like I ask lots of Egghead journalist like yourself. You are defending this!!! What the heck planet do you live on!!! This is so disguisting!!

People get out there in 2012 and vote the Idiot and Chief out.

Micheal Vick.......you Stick!!!

Posted by: progrills | December 28, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

B.S. If Barack Obama wanted to express gratitude for people hiring felons, he would have placed a personal phone call to any one of who-knows-how-many employers who have given jobs to felons who AREN'T sports stars makng multi-millions, but instead are working for modest wages.

Vick is a psychopath, in my book just a few acts shy of Dahmer status. I wonder if the White House hires child molesters onto the staff? Men who have been convicted of beating their wives repeatedly over years? THAT would be putting their money where their mouths are.

The fact that the President chose to make this call regarding a SPORTS STAR with a multi-million salary whose crimes of repeated heinous cruelty were, after all, only committed on DOGS, shows that indeed, the playing field is NOT level. Some felons are more deserving than others, not only of being hired, but getting millions and a Presidential embrace.

There is a HUGE difference between hiring a felon who committed robbery in which no one was harmed, drug related crimes, or other non-violent felonious behavior and what Vick did -- a sustained, premeditated, organized campaign of torment and sadistic (read the descriptions!) killing of helpless an innocent beings.

The President has made a strong statement about his morals in this act. Namely, athletic prowess excuses anything. And cruelty to animals is not all that big of a deal.

I am a liberal progressive, I worked for Obama, contributed, voted for him, and cheered his election. My vote is history. I'm done with the two party system. F It. The whole political system, and the people in it, are morally vacuous.

Posted by: lilifreak | December 28, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

B.S. If Barack Obama wanted to express gratitude for people hiring felons, he would have placed a personal phone call to any one of who-knows-how-many employers who have given jobs to felons who AREN'T sports stars makng multi-millions, but instead are working for modest wages.

Vick is a psychopath, in my book just a few acts shy of Dahmer status. I wonder if the White House hires child molesters onto the staff? Men who have been convicted of beating their wives repeatedly over years? THAT would be putting their money where their mouths are.

The fact that the President chose to make this call regarding a SPORTS STAR with a multi-million salary whose crimes of repeated heinous cruelty were, after all, only committed on DOGS, shows that indeed, the playing field is NOT level. Some felons are more deserving than others, not only of being hired, but getting millions and a Presidential embrace.

There is a HUGE difference between hiring a felon who committed robbery in which no one was harmed, drug related crimes, or other non-violent felonious behavior and what Vick did -- a sustained, premeditated, organized campaign of torment and sadistic (read the descriptions!) killing of helpless an innocent beings.

The President has made a strong statement about his morals in this act. Namely, athletic prowess excuses anything. And cruelty to animals is not all that big of a deal.

I am a liberal progressive, I worked for Obama, contributed, voted for him, and cheered his election. My vote is history. I'm done with the two party system. F It. The whole political system, and the people in it, are morally vacuous.

Posted by: lilifreak | December 28, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Who approve this column? Maybe we can have the ex-cons like Vick move in next door to your wife and daughters--not a chance Ezra. This article is sickening. Before the dogfighting and other charges Vick and friends had a long, long, list of thuggery. The Post even ran several of the stories. Also, just before the season started Michael Vick and a co-defendant also on parole (probation) were enjoying each others company when the co-defendant was shot just a few seconds after Vick left. Have you forgot that!!! It's a shame that Obama can call the Eagles with congratulations for a thug out footballers, but Obama would not dare mention Black unemployment. Obama is really becoming a joke of a presidency. Go bring Clinton back--again.

Posted by: Concerned3 | December 28, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

I think it's more proof that Oblahblah's priorities are out of sync and his understanding of every day Americans is, was and remains way off kilter. He hasn't been focused like a laser on the economy and what American citizens really need since the day after elections in November 2008. This proves it -- again.

He should care more about average working families and regular peoples' troubles in the economy instead of making it a priority to call a super rich elitist about another super rich privileged dog torturer/rapist/murderer who plays a fricking game for a living.

It's one thing to have a private opinion and keep it to himself or in the party of close confidantes, it's quite another to take the initiative to communicate such a belief -- it shows poor judgment on his part -- again.

I still believe he was not and still is not qualified to be president based soley on his lack of experience and nothing else. I don't agree with the tea partiers, blindly frothing wingnuts, birthers etc and their underlying racist beliefs.

I would never vote for a republican ever -- but there were far more qualified democrats available to be elected who would have been better and hit the ground running from day one -- Obama should have been VP to learn on the job in that position instead of the on the job training that he's shown for two years that he's not very good at it and we are the losers because of it.

He and the democrap party have been spineless and reactive for 99.99%, HORRIBLE LEADERS, PATHETIC COMMUNICATORS and have capitulated to the rethuglicons at almost every fork in the road, have not taken the initiative on many TOP JOB & ECONONMIC PRIORITIES, have caved to the pharma/medical/wall street/military industrial complexes and like the rethuglikkkans have stuffed their bank accounts at every turn in the road giving the bird to poor and working class americans.

I for one am ready for a third party independent who is socially progressive, fiscally responsible, effective as a problem solver, not a b*LLsh**t double-faced lying hypocrite politician like the 99% serving now.

Oblahblah really is the biggest disappointment of the past two years (the democraps for the past 4) -- but it really does not surprise me because the spineless wimp democraps who have also sold out to the highest bidder (very soon after the Greedy Old Party of hatemongers pledged their allegiance to their corporate masters) never learn from the mistakes of the past and prove time and again they really are no longer working for the working people of this nation.

Me: Sick of the Ohblahblah and the democraps -- but the dpressing thing is that they're still better than the profits over people thieving lying fascist repugneocons.

That's why we need a grass roots 3rd party cleaning from top to bottom, in every county, state and especially at the federal level.

Posted by: demsRwimps | December 28, 2010 10:34 PM | Report abuse

Private conversations reveal a lot about public figures.

Vick wasn't given a second chance because he was a convicted criminal who had served his time; Vick was given a second chance by a team that needs to win and in order to do so is willing to overlook a major character flaw that allowed this man to turn the other way and allow dog fighting to take place on his property.

If President Obama really cared about the second chances for criminals, he would have made that phone call to those private companies that hire the normal, everyday American who is rehabilitated and attempting to reenter society.

He didn't. And that "private" conversation says quite a bit about the public figure's priorities.

Posted by: LMW6 | December 28, 2010 11:55 PM | Report abuse

Obama is not even an American citizen.

Why should we care what he thinks or says?

Posted by: grunk | December 29, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

So,I agree with the idea that we need to BOYCOTT all NFL Football Games until the
Eagles Fire Micheal Vick that sadisticall
dog killer and I like the idea of holding
public burnings of all Eagles & NFL Team
Gear to show how fed up with Micheal Vick
and the NFL giving this convicted thug a
free pass and with Big Mouth Barack Obama
sticking his big nose and big mouth into
the matter as well. Obama & Vick two of
a kind both thugs now and forever.

Posted by: TammyLong1985 | December 29, 2010 1:56 AM | Report abuse

Vick was given a break that most others would not have been offered. It is the same old thing.
Eagles doing something that would make them more money. Obama supports Vick due to their racial commonality. So, the message is that a person can do something terrible wrong, hurtful to animals and humans. But, yet be moved into the pity me mode. It will go on. Maybe Obama should have a beer summit, invite Vick and the spirits of the dogs that were destroyed by his cruel game.

Posted by: gone2dabeachgmailcom | December 29, 2010 4:16 AM | Report abuse

Vick was given a break that most others would not have been offered. It is the same old thing.
Eagles doing something that would make them more money. Obama supports Vick due to their racial commonality. So, the message is that a person can do something terrible wrong, hurtful to animals and humans. But, yet be moved into the pity me mode. It will go on. Maybe Obama should have a beer summit, invite Vick and the spirits of the dogs that were destroyed by his cruel game.

Posted by: gone2dabeachgmailcom | December 29, 2010 4:18 AM | Report abuse

What does a jail bird and a president have in common? They are both losers.

The Obama Administration is lost and can't seem to find its way and has gone astray. Their problem is the SOS. No new thoughts or actions, except spend and print money while the dollar sinks and oil rises, gold rises, all commodities are rising.

Michael Vick got whupped by a rookie quarterback and America got whupped by a rookie president.

Posted by: alance | December 29, 2010 5:48 AM | Report abuse

Obama's Policies are going to make criminals out of families and society

http://www.massresistance.org
http://www.drjudithreisman.org
http://www.silentscream.org
Also google Boston Children's Hospital Sex Change Clinic
Also Dawn Stefanowicz Out from Under
Also Obama's Bi-Sexuality
Also Planned Parenthood as this organization goes into the public schools gives young girls low dose birth control pills so they will become pregnant, then they take them for an abortion, many times without the parents permission

Posted by: boski66 | December 29, 2010 6:47 AM | Report abuse

Obama's Policies are going to make criminals out of families and society

http://www.massresistance.org
http://www.drjudithreisman.org
http://www.silentscream.org
Also google Boston Children's Hospital Sex Change Clinic
Also Dawn Stefanowicz Out from Under
Also Obama's Bi-Sexuality
Also Planned Parenthood as this organization goes into the public schools gives young girls low dose birth control pills so they will become pregnant, then they take them for an abortion, many times without the parents permission

Posted by: boski66 | December 29, 2010 6:48 AM | Report abuse

My newspaper reported that pictures of the dogs that Micheal Vick burned alive, pulled the teeth from then beat them to death in front of cheering people, some were pulled apart while alive..were so demented...so pathological that  members of the Jury say they still have nightmares today

Did you hear that Mr. President?

Clearly you haven't educated yourself on what exactly convicted felon Vick is responsible for doing to animals.

Try educating yourself on the topic.

Posted by: Rubiconski | December 29, 2010 6:54 AM | Report abuse

Atrocities such as those mentioned by the previous poster, as well as many others committed by Vick, are generally known. It would be nice to think that Mr. Klein and the President don't know the extent of all this, but it was publicized at the time. Of all the disagreeable or bad people I've ever encountered, I would say that not one of them was capable of committing these acts. In violence, sadism, and number of victims (poor beasts though they were) they go WAY beyond what most released convicts have ever done. Actually, in the unlikely case that Michael Vick had truly had some kind of change of character, he would not have returned to his life of celebrity. Why not? Because he would know that the penitence owed dictated a humbler life, maybe one of some kind of service. Anyone who did what he did remains what he was and is -- a very dangerous man.

Posted by: truck1 | December 29, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Seems like the rightwing teatardlikans has the sole prerogative to judge anyone's morality and spirituality.

Posted by: apocrypha | December 29, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

I feel bad for the rest of the Eagles team, but not for Vick in the loss to the Vikings. The only reason I flip to an Eagles game is in the hope of seeing Vick at the bottom of a huge pileup of defensive linemen, suffering pain like that he inflicted on the dogs.

Posted by: Utahreb | December 29, 2010 7:46 AM | Report abuse

Very nice... the Presidunce is concerned about giving miscreant millionaires a second chance in life.

WOW... I'm sleeping better knowing Obama is on the cutting edge of his job. Appaently his lazer beam focus on jobs is primarily concerned with ExCons - probably because so many of them are from his racial voter base.

What a simpleton we now have in the White House. Obama truly makes Bush43 seem like the leader of the Century.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | December 29, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Whatever. It didn`t help Vick`s game last night.

Posted by: nanonano1 | December 29, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

So Obama thinks that Michael Vick deserves a second chance after brutalizing thousands of dogs, yet he "struggles" with the notion of giving gays and lesbians a fair FIRST chance at marriage??? You can spin this any way you want, but it still proves Obama is an immoral a@@hole.

Posted by: gaylib | December 29, 2010 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Mr. President You have lost my vote. A great idea to give our children, do something horrible and you will get a second chance. No one has the right to harm any living person or animal. His almighty strength was to over power a small man's best friend to benefit Mr. Vick. He should not be allowed to play football or ever own an animal. If he had the desire to kill let him join the arm services and put him on the front lines. Of course he is to chicken for that. Or is the training to difficult for Mr. Vick ? I have always voted and defended you Mr. Obama but this time you went too far. Ask your girls about the love Bo gives them. It has been proven anyone that harms and kills animals will do the same on humans. Keep your eye on Mr. Vick and his millions President Obama. Animal lovers rmember this when voting.

Posted by: noodles3367 | December 29, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Isn't it obvious? He shot his mouth off impulsively in spite of being told by his Bosses that he should shut up except for what they tell him to say. Almost EVERY time he impulsively speaks up it turns out badly for their scenario.

Posted by: JWMeritt | December 29, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Bloods

Posted by: schmidt1 | December 29, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if Obama or this writer would let an ex-con sex offender or killer cut his grass or clean his house...doubt it...but we All should let ex-cons near OUR families...social justice...pfft!

Posted by: mjandrews8 | December 29, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

blah, blah, blah, folks get a life and leave the President alone! GEEZ!

Posted by: faithfulalso1 | December 29, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

ib422000 wrote:

Mr. Obama sneezes, the bashing begins. Sometimes he just shows up and the bashing begins. Now we're criticizing a personal phone call ha made, expressing his views to which he remains as entitled as any American. Never has any other US President faced as much undeserved scorn, scrutiny and suspicion yet come out looking dignified and 'above it all'. Of course, it's mainly because he is a colored man! Americans remain, generally, a racist and prejudiced people.
_____________________________________

No, it's not because he's a "colored man". It's just that he's clueless.

Posted by: wearedoomed1 | December 29, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Ezra, the Eagles hired Vick because he is a perfect fit for their offense, and a perfect substitute for McNabb who had, as we are now completely aware of, always been inconsistent, and increasingly injury-prone. That they traded him was no surprise at all (nor, unfortunately that Snyder picked him up). It had absolutely NOTHING to do with Vick's police record. Only in Washington, I suppose, would anyone even care about that. I am frankly tired of seeing everything the administration does spun in even the columns of this paper. Clearly this move by the president was designed to increase his ratings with the black community.

Posted by: remant | December 29, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Ana Marie Cox stopped being interesting when she left Wonkette. Why drop her name now?

Posted by: kindness1 | December 29, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

I think he wieghed in because he is a closet Vikings fan. He knows what his endorsements do to people and organizations. Chicago Olympics bid, various governor, house and senate races have overwhelmingly gone against his support. So he used his evil enodrsement to insure that his team won on Tuesday night.

Posted by: jasonmason | December 29, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

I am sorry, but too all you idiots, the mans name is PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA, not obama. We did not disrespect FORMER president BUSH, neither one of them so.

THank you President Obama for being in touch with the issues that face every day man. Vick was used as an example by the NFL, PETA and the press. there are football, basketball, hockey, and baseball players who have done far worse things than Vick.

President Obama is more grounded than any other president we have ever had in our life time.

It is even more ashame that the TEA Party members have decided to focus on getting the President out of office rather than focusing on resolving the issues they helped create.
Keep up the Good work Mr. President. You are doing a wonderful job and you have my vote Nov. 2012

Posted by: mustanglvr68 | December 29, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Ohhh, I can see this inspirational story producing loads of high paying ex-felon jobs. Here's a little news for you Ezra. Even eagles fans with hiring power wouldn't hire Vick for a regular workman job if they knew what he had done. That they are willing to cheer for him as a quarterback is meaningless because the Eagles are winning and he is a large contributor to their success. Let him have another game like last night's and we'll see how popular he is.

Obama is simply a calculating fool who thinks this is good PR for his misguided agenda. That you embrace it, Ezra makes you a bigger fool.

Posted by: buggerianpaisley1 | December 29, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

It seems as if each and every endorsement Obama gives to someone, it becomes a 'gift of LOSS, and a kiss of death'! To wit: 2010 Virginia Dem Gov candidate; New Jersey Dem Gov candidate; Mass Dem Senatorial candidate; all of the members of the democratic house who lost in November 2010 --- and now Vick!! Vick had to have one of his worse games ever last night -- on his home field!!

Suggestion to Obama: stick to what you do best! PONTIFICATE OVER NOTHING!! 9BUT USE MULTIPLE TELEPROMPTERS!!!)

Posted by: wheeljc | December 29, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

This is not a second chance for Vick, he has had hundreds, perhaps thousands of chances to stop the killing and torture.

He tortured and killed helpless dogs. He used puppies as pit bull fighting bait. He mutilated animals that refused to fight by electrocuting, burning alive, drowning, strangling, etc. He slaughtered these helpless creatures with his bare hands, for fun. He did not torture and kill just one dog. He did it to hundreds, perhaps thousands of helpless, innocent dogs. The man is a monster and the president is a monster to praise him.

Posted by: hunter340 | December 29, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Let's see Obama hire a former child rapist to care for his children. After all, once someone has done their time that's it, right? Slate wiped clean and all that.

Posted by: Jones9 | December 29, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse


hunter340 said:
"The man is a monster and the president is a monster to praise him."

Birds of a feather. Both are suckful.
.

Posted by: Billw3 | December 29, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

ib422000 : "Now we're criticizing a personal phone call ha made, expressing his views to which he remains as entitled as any American." So why bring it up? If it had stayed there, it would have been out-of-bounds. But it didn't. If YOUR OWN STAFF airs your dirty laundry, who blames others for pointing at it? You apparently want the good, but think it unfair when the bad is pointed out.

Posted by: JWMeritt | December 29, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Obama seems to like those that have made poor choices in their lives which is totally okay with me as long as he does not use taxpayer money to support them or rescue them from their choices.

The taxpayer money should not be financing the recovery of mistakes of others.

Posted by: RandyM1 | December 29, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Obama seems to like those that have made poor choices in their lives which is totally okay with me as long as he does not use taxpayer money to support them or rescue them from their choices.

The taxpayer money should not be financing the recovery of mistakes of others.

Posted by: RandyM1 | December 29, 2010 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Obama seems to like those that have made poor choices in their lives which is totally okay with me as long as he does not use taxpayer money to support them or rescue them from their choices.

The taxpayer money should not be financing the recovery of mistakes of others.

Posted by: RandyM1 | December 29, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Legally, Vick got the book thrown at him. Wasn't enough. Proves beyond any doubt that the laws are not as severe as they need to be.

Since FB is the only legal activity Vick can do for gainful employment, there are other teams outside the AFL/NFL. No millions. No press. Blissful obscurity. It would be better for him to donate (voluntarily) 90 percent of his gross earnings to non-profits supporting companion animal welfare. Still leaves him enough to live.

Some habitual Major League fool insists on signing an evil monster. That does not mean the team employing him will ever win a championship. Karma typically has a way of interfering.

Our lackluster Oval Office occupant proves three things with his atrocious behavior:
--He will lose the Dem Primary.
--He has no business owning pets -- of ANY kind.
--Never, EVER, vote for a Chicago politician.

Posted by: alb2 | December 29, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

The thug potus gives props to sick, perverted loser vick who got enjoyment from torturing dogs. Both are jerks.

Posted by: wmpowellfan | December 29, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

The thug potus gives props to sick, perverted loser vick who got enjoyment from torturing dogs. Both are jerks.

Posted by: wmpowellfan | December 29, 2010 1:18 PM | Report abuse

We should give O.J. another chance too. I think he's learned his lesson by now and I'm very concerned about the ex con stigma that may hamper his employment opportunities on the outside.
This is where we should place our priorities.
Meanwhile, we should continue to increase taxes, regulations and restrictions on greedy small business owners with the ultimate goal of shutting them down.

Posted by: robtay12003 | December 29, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Live from Los Angeles! I told you! I told you! As a Michael Vick fan I was very critical of HIS play in the Eagles win over the Giants where in MY opinion New York gave the game. Last night in Philadelphia the whole nation watched the Minnesota Vikings took apart Vick and the Eagles offense. A week ago I commented on another blog that Michael Vick played poorly and people in the media wanted to give Vick the MVP because MY comments were too critical! First of all Vick needs to forget yesterday's game and focus on winning against the Dallas Cowboys and second HE needs to forget about the MVP and listening comments from ESPN, Vick needs to do the little things like controlling the offensive line, finding those open receivers, overcome mental mistakes and create THAT running game. On another blog I commented Michael Vick needs to understand TRIANGULATION taking a page from political consultant Dick Morris because look at Dree Brees of the New Orleans Saints beating the Atlanta Falcons where Brees overcame a lot of miscues in winning the game. I also compared Vick to Tom Brady of the New England Patriots where HIS detail in spotting the field creates opportunities for HIS receivers! As a mobile and strong armed quarterback my criticism of Michael Vick is for HIM to step up HIS game because NFL defenses are keying IN on HIM!! As for the HATERS, Michael Vick YOU need to understand that winning the Super Bowl is the ONLY way to vindicate the dog-fighting reputation these people smeared YOU with!!!

Posted by: big_bors | December 29, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Somebody should post photos of these dogs covered in blood, their faces half ripped off with maybe an eyeball hanging from its socket.

Liberals--the sensitive, touchy-feely ones. Champions of the downtrodden, the abused, the disadvantaged, the needy, the injured.

Thank God Americans are finally catching on to these phonies.
Come on, 2012.

Posted by: robtay12003 | December 29, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Michael Vick is a sick twisted Sociopath who tortured, maimed and killed God's Gift to Mankind, our BEST FRIEND, our dogs. Comrade Obozo's endorsement of him is inexcusable and millions of dog lovers will remember in 2012. What a worthless, empty gesture by this poor excuse for a president.

Posted by: priley8104 | December 29, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Geez! Vick did his time. Let's move on to more current events!!! Dog fighting is reprehensible, but he got the maximum and served it all.
Oh, and all you "animal lovers" who condemn Vick, just keep in mind that if he had let the dog starve to death, he might have been charged a criminal neglect fee of up to $1000, but no jail time. Dog fighting sucks but watch Animal Cops sometime and see how lovely the average idiot is to their "pets". At least Vick knows it was wrong.

Posted by: hebe1 | December 29, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that OBOZO constantly injects his opinions, his worthless, stupid opinions, when he hopes it will benefit a "brotha?" I have never seen this empty suit speak out in defense of a white man. I am beginning to think Comrade Obozo may be a tad Racist.

One and Done in 2012! His defense of the SOCIOPATHIC DOG KILLER is inexcuseable.

Posted by: priley8104 | December 29, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Obama is doing everything he can to avoid his number one job: fixing the economy. He can eat ice cones in Hawaii and travel all over the globe and spend mental energy thinking about Michael Vick. He does that because he has no clue -- no clue whatsoever -- on how to fix the economy and he simply can't sit down and go to work on it. Why can't he just sit at his desk and work? I don't think he has been at his desk for five days straight since he took office. He plays golf on Sunday mornings, plays BBall on Wednesday afternoon. Then takes vacations.

Hey Mr. Prez. Do some real work at your desk please!

Posted by: cpameetingbook | December 29, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Obama argues that Vick should get a "second chance." Vick ALREADY has gotten his second chance. What everybody really is arguing about is whether Vick should be FORGIVEN. That's a different story. I don't believe Vick has shown any contrition yet for what he did. He can throw completed passes and scramble for yardage, but that's not contrition. It is predicted that Vick will receive $16 million a year next year. I'll start to believe that Vick is contrite if he donates half of that to some animal protection society or founds a group for the rehabilitation of abused animals. Then, I'll believe he's shown contrition and I'll start to think about forgiving him.

Posted by: Paaa | December 29, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Black ..........liberation..........theology. Same reason he and Holder want crack users and dealers to have fun.

Posted by: chatard | December 29, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

No matter how much you change you still have to pay the price fro what you have done. Criminals, and this includes Vick, need to think about their criminal acts before they commit them and understand the consequences of their actions which last long after they serve their sentences.Time is a healer and it takes time to build up the trust that they lost when they became a felon.Vick hasn't been out of prison all that much time to say he is rehabilitated, only time will tell.

Posted by: hotdogme | December 29, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Black ..........liberation..........theology. Same reason he and Holder want crack users and dealers to have fun.

Posted by: chatard | December 29, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse


robtay12003 said:
"We should give O.J. another chance too."

Obama appears racist. Remember Gates and his "cops acted stupidly" comment?
.

Posted by: Billw3 | December 29, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse


Obama is the greatest embarassment to the country ever. You yokels who elected him are no better.
.

Posted by: Billw3 | December 29, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Obama may have lost my vote for saying he was happy that Vick got another chance. Vick deserves nothing and I hope he is hurt playing football and is crippled for life and needs someone to look after him but no one does.

Posted by: msms | December 29, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Obama may have lost my vote for saying he was happy that Vick got another chance. Vick deserves nothing and I hope he is hurt playing football and is crippled for life and needs someone to look after him but no one does.

Posted by: msms | December 29, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Ezra Klein --- The Most Pretentious WaPo columnist of 2010! No one else comes close.

The President and Ezra's view of this seems to be that if you commit a felony and serve time, then businesses should simply ignore that history.

Perhaps in Vick's case, and in some specific other cases, there is no overlap in the criminal behavior and the "second chance." It's not likely you'll see Vick running a dog fighting ring in the middle of a football game.

Not so for MOST other criminals -- embezzlers, thieves, murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc. etc. Any business that forgets the past of the person they are hiring puts at risk their own future.

Grow up, get out there in the real world, and retire those rose colored glasses.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | December 29, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Obama will always find a way to get his name in the news every day.He feels compelled to weigh in on everything.His ego
is amazing.The guy refuses to get lost for a few days.

Posted by: bowspray | December 29, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Can someone who is cruel to animals ever truly be reformed? Football
players are expected to be rough, tough and cruel, so perhaps in exploiting these tendencies our sports-star worshipping society is getting what it glorifies. It
reminds me of the Dentist's Song in "Little
Shop of Horrors".

Posted by: vadata060440 | December 29, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Can someone who is cruel to animals ever truly be reformed? Football
players are expected to be rough, tough and cruel, so perhaps in exploiting these tendencies our sports-star worshipping society is getting what it glorifies. It
reminds me of the Dentist's Song in "Little
Shop of Horrors".

Posted by: vadata060440 | December 29, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

First of all, Michael Vick did not have a "downfall." He got a very mild sentence for the crime of running dogfights. The far more heinous offense, the torture killings of unknown numbers of dogs, was eliminated as part of the plea bargain. This is the real offense. He inflicted unspeakable pain on many many dogs for his own enjoyment. He hanged dogs. This is a man who should not now be a completely rehabilitated celebrity. These are acts of people who often go on to kill human beings, but even if this is limited to dogs, the reveling in cruelty over many years and many acts should place him beyond the acceptance and embrace of the public, and far more so, of the president. What was the President thinking here? If he wanted to weigh in on the issue of giving released convicts a second chance, he should have picked almost anyone else. How about someone doing time on charges of drug possession? The crimes of Vick were brutal and absolutely pathological, and showed a man who rejoices in the suffering of helpless dogs. He should NOT have such an easy ticket back to celebrity, and to have that ticket stamped by the President -- beyond disgusting.

Posted by: truck1 | December 28, 2010
12:47 PM

I could not have stated it better. Thanks, truck1! Ezra, normally I like your thinking but you got it wrong this time.

Posted by: lsaffell | December 29, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Ezra, this is like the worst analytical piece I've ever read. Did you really write this? This article makes no sense except for trying to stir up the tea party set.

Posted by: janouzpoha | December 29, 2010 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Ezra, this is like the worst analytical piece I've ever read. Did you really write this? This article makes no sense except for trying to stir up the tea party set.

Posted by: janouzpoha | December 29, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

I love animals and abhor animal abuse. But I also believe that sometimes people grow up in environments where my beliefs regarding animals as sentient creatures are completely unrecognized. So I give Michael Vick credit for accepting and fulfilling his sentence, and continuing to speak out on behalf of preventing cruelty to animals. I want to believe people can be rehabilitated and I believe Michael Vick can demonstrate that to all of us, for the betterment of himself and our society at large. And I think that's what President Obama sought to express. Nothing but good can come from Michael Vick becoming a genuinely rehabilitated role model for our youth.

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Posted by: sdasdhahfda | December 30, 2010 3:58 AM | Report abuse

President Obama should have thanked
Best Friends Animal Society for giving the Vick dogs "a second chance".

Lately, I don't know where the President's
priorities lie.

Posted by: Ruffian613 | December 30, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Late Rome with a few techno updates -
bread and circuses, gladiators of the
football persuasion, slaughter of animals,
advocating for a "green" Colosseum, opinions expressed on Internet comments and editorials. It diverts the populace.

Posted by: vadata060440 | December 30, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

This should not be of great surprise to anyone after he granted the job of running the FED to a person who him self did not pay his taxes,and this was not the only one if you remember it seemed that the people he did appoint had tax problems just shows that his judgement is not what it should be.This is just another example of not thinking before you open your mouth.Oh and their was his statement on Cambridge police too.

Posted by: freedon | December 31, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

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