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Posted at 4:26 PM ET, 10/23/2008

McCain, Obama, Biden, and JFK

By Michael Dobbs


Kennedy and Khrushchev, Vienna, June 1961.

"Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year old senator president of the United States of America...Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."
--Joe Biden, Seattle Fundraiser, October 19, 2008.

"I sat in the cockpit on the flight deck of the USS Enterprise off of Cuba [during the 1962 Cuban missile crisis.] I had a target. I know how close we came to a nuclear war and I will not be a president that needs to be tested. I have been tested. Senator Obama has not." --John McCain, Harrisburg, PA, October 21, 2008.

John McCain has seized on an unguarded comment by Democratic vice-presidential hopeful Joe Biden at a Seattle fundraiser to reintroduce the experience argument into the closing days of the presidential campaign. The Arizona senator is reminding audiences that he actually participated in the Cuban missile crisis as a young U.S. Navy pilot. Barack Obama was a one-year-old baby in Hawaii when his future rival was being assigned bombing targets in Cuba.

Obama brushed aside his running mate's remarks as a "rhetorical flourish." But are Biden's premonitions historically accurate--and what do they tell us about the kind of foreign policy challenges Obama will face if elected president?

The Facts

John F. Kennedy was sworn in as the 35th president of the United States in January 1961 at the age of 43. Six months later, in June 1961, he held his first and only summit meeting with Nikita Khrushchev in Vienna. The Soviet leader attempted to bully Kennedy into making concessions on Berlin, threatening him with nuclear war. "Roughest thing in my life," JFK told James Reston of The New York Times shortly afterwards. "He just beat the hell out of me."

JFK understood that he would have an uphill struggle to re-establish his credibility with Khrushchev following the Vienna meeting and the bungled Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba in April 1961. After reluctantly giving his approval for the invasion, Kennedy refused to commit U.S. forces to support the 1,500 CIA-trained Cuban exiles who were rounded up by Fidel Castro's security forces. He told Reston that his superpower rival had likely concluded that "I'm inexperienced. Probably thinks I'm stupid. Maybe most important, he thinks that I had no guts."

Kennedy and his aides expected a superpower showdown over West Berlin, a capitalist enclave surrounded by communist east Germany. Instead, the defining crisis of his presidency came over Cuba, in October 1962. Alarmed by the Kennedy administration's efforts to overthrow Castro, including the sabotage operation known as Operation Mongoose, Khrushchev decided that he had to take dramatic action to "save socialism" in Cuba. By deploying nuclear missiles to Cuba, he also hoped to offset the 10-1 American advantage in nuclear warheads capable of reaching the territory of the other superpower.

The McCain campaign can reasonably claim that Kennedy's inexperience was one of the factors that encouraged the Soviet leader to take his great gamble over Cuba. After the Vienna summit, Khrushchev told his aides that the U.S. president was "young enough to be my son." In his memoirs, he confessed to "feeling a bit sorry" for Kennedy, but he described politics as "a merciless business." His verdict on Kennedy at Vienna: "Too intelligent and too weak."

On the other hand, Khrushchev later developed a "deep respect" for his rival. In his memoirs, he praised Kennedy for his "sober-minded" handling of the missile crisis which ended with the withdrawal of the most lethal Soviet weaponry from Cuba and a U.S. promise not to invade the island. According to Khrushchev, Kennedy did not allow himself "to become frightened," but neither did he "become reckless." He "left himself a way out of the crisis."

The Cuban missile crisis demonstrates the sometimes pivotal role of personality in poltics. Had someone else been president in October 1962, it is possible that Khrushchev would not have challenged the United States in Cuba in the way that he did. But one can also imagine circumstances in which a more impulsive U.S. president might have overreacted to Khrushchev, triggering a nuclear war over Cuba.

In his book, Thirteen Days, Bobby Kennedy noted that his brother was surrounded by some of the "most able people" in the country. Nevertheless, in RFK's view, "if any of half a dozen of them were president, the world would have been very likely plunged into a catastrophic war." He based this conclusion on the knowledge that nearly half the ExComm--the committee established by Kennedy to manage the crisis--had favored bombing the Soviet missile sites in Cuba, a step that probably would have led to an American invasion of the island and Soviet retaliation.

The failed Vienna summit and the fiasco of the Bay of Pigs helped prepare Kennedy for the ultimate challenge of the Cuban Missile Crisis. He knew that a major crisis was coming, and steeled himself for a confrontation with Khrushchev by carrying around a slip of paper in his wallet with a quote from Abraham Lincoln:

I know there is a God--and I see a storm coming;
If he has a place for me, I believe I am ready.

The Pinocchio Test

Historical analogies can be dangerous. The world has changed enormously since the Cold War, and has become an infinitely more complicated place. The "evil empire" has been replaced by an assortment of "rogue states," including some, like Iran and North Korea, that appear bent on acquiring nuclear weapons. While John McCain can fairly claim to have more "foreign policy experience" than his rival, it is not at all clear that serving as a bomber pilot during the Cuban missile crisis and the Vietnam war will fully prepare him for the foreign policy challenges of the next four years.

By Michael Dobbs  | October 23, 2008; 4:26 PM ET
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Comments

I find it interesting how McCain describes his being "tested". Events he gives do not any more qualify him as being tested for the Presidency any more than a pig can fly.

Should he become President I'm sure he will be tested within the first 6 months as well. However, since he is only an extension of the Bush Administration, the testing could come even sooner. Then we will see how Mr. Irrational will handle the crisis. He will probably want to bomb the hell out of someone just to show everyone how tough he can be and get us into another one of his wars to spread liberty and democracy.

Posted by: jdoc1 | October 23, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Referring to the failed run at social security of 2005, McCain told Wolf Blitzer yesterday: "the [Social Security] talks broke down because the Democrats insisted as a precondition that we raise taxes."

Is that true? I don't remember that. I thought the sticking point was personal/private accounts (sorry, it's hard keeping track of which focus grouped better at the time).
It seems an ideal issue for a "Fact Checker". The item above, not so much.

Posted by: zukermand | October 23, 2008 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"it is not at all clear that serving as a bomber pilot during the Cuban missile crisis and the Vietnam war will fully prepare him for the foreign policy challenges of the next four years." If this statement is true then a trip overseas to Germany and Iraq definitely doesn't prepare one for the foreign policy challenges of the next 4 years. The fact that Barack is even in this race instead of Hillary proves that the media has totally backe him from the beginning. If fighting in a war and being prepared to fight in a war (Cuban missile crisis) doesn't necessarily prepare you for the foreign policy challenges over the next 4 years then sitting on you butt and pontificating for the past 30 years, while being wrong on practically every foreign policy stance of this country, certainly doesn't prepare you either. So what we have determined from this article is that neither group of candidates is prepared, however I would much rather have a president who has faced the enemy and even survived their torture than one who not only hasn't faced an enemy, but by his own policy positions and his selection of friends over the years is actually a socialist/communist; a friend of our enemies. I fear for our country

Posted by: jprassociates | October 23, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Obama has molded his life, and his lack of independent analysis, on following mindlessly the JFK template. For example,JFK spoke at the Baptist Convention in TX to confront the religious issue, Obama goes to Saddleback to confront the religious issue with Baptists. JFK proposed cutting taxes Obama proposed cutting taxes on and on.......

Did Biden get the JFK comparison from Obama's own words?

Did any reporter anywhere ever ask?

Posted by: JaxMax | October 23, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

McCain has been tested? How exactly does he qualify that? He was a navy pilot who had absolutely zero input in any course of action he would/could take. All orders came from above. That's not a test of anything except how well he follows orders as a low man in a chain of command.

How was he tested as a Senator? Did he make the actual decisions, or is he merely confusing his place of influence as a member of Congress, and his support of various policies with those of the men who made the decisions in theater?

If that's the case, his full-throated support and advocacy of the Iraq War, his anti-Russia sentiments, his desire to engage Iran and even N. Korea militarily, and his ignorance about Afghanistan/Pakistan and the religious background of the middle east itself (Sunni-Shia what?) has been a hell of a test as to his views, his priorities, and his lack of a passing grade on such a "test".

Posted by: Gayle_in_NY | October 23, 2008 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: benissmokin | October 23, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

Great job, McCain was a fighter pilot in Vietnam, etc. I am tired of him playing the war hero of the 1970's. This is the 21st century. Barack Obama has complimented John McCain numerous times. The negative ads, the "pit-bull" hockey mom. How could anyone vote for McCain? At 72, he would face more than he could handle. And we would end up having Barbie as our President?? No way!! Each time something serious comes up, John McCain avoids it, pretends it doesn't exist, or says, "I screwed up", on Letterman. Imagine the countries that we need to do business with that despise Bush/McCain. We are looking for a President correct?

Posted by: Diana10 | October 23, 2008 8:03 PM | Report abuse

It's impossible to say what would have happened if Kennedy had not been the president in 1962. The crisis was a high-profile wakeup call demonstrating how close the world was to nuclear war, and if it hadn't happened, it might have just delayed the confrontation. Where would we have been without the red telephone installed after the crisis?

Posted by: jl85 | October 23, 2008 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Why are McPalin so scared of being tested? Because they can't fail a test they never take? Good. Then I'll vote for Obama, who likes tests because he aces them all. That includes the Democratic nomination.

Posted by: sooku | October 23, 2008 9:59 PM | Report abuse

If Biden miss spoke, then it was a good thing for the country. May it be McCain or Obama, Biden's statement should serve as a heads up for our Armed Forces to be on ALERT after the election and the recent passing of the holiday season. The country will have to be on ALERT.

The word must go through channels to those who think they can take advantage while the changing of guard is taking place, do not even think about it, because America will be on ALERT.

McCain has to realize sitting on a carrier does not QUALIFY him to say he has been there or to be president. There were quite a few more good PILOTS than Mr. McCain on ALERT.

Posted by: msgbill | October 23, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

I agree with some of the previous comments - that sitting in a plane ready to attack is not a noteworthy preparation for handling a critical issue unless the intent is to provoke a confrontation.

One of the gifts for those of us in our senior years is to have been a part of the history we hear discussed. We have a unique understanding, however, we must keep in mind that the circumstances were different then. To draw a parallel is,at best, tenuous.

Posted by: willad1 | October 24, 2008 12:06 AM | Report abuse

Dobbs wrote, "it is not at all clear that serving as a bomber pilot during the Cuban missile crisis and the Vietnam war will fully prepare him for the foreign policy challenges of the next four years."

My question to you, Dobbs, is if McCain's experience does not prepare him, what in the world in your view has prepared Barack Obama?

When it comes to experience, the Obama campaign has got it right with their big "O" symbol -- it's a big ZERO.

Posted by: SeekTruth | October 24, 2008 8:44 AM | Report abuse

The job of the president is unique. This is important because it implies that experience alone is not enough to qualify a candidate for this office. It's why we place so much emphasis on the candidate's character. A president needs to be strong in his convictions, he needs to be smart, and, most of all, he needs to think strategically. A man can cultivate these characteristics through experience, but not all experienced men have done so.

John McCain has provided us with evidence that he is more a tactical thinker than a strategic one. He has tried several moves during this campaign that can rightly be described as gambits, and has moved from one tactic to the next without providing evidence of a consistent underlying strategy. If he were to govern as he has campaigned, we would be faced with contradictory national policies that would be unlikely to move the country in any particular direction, and would surely not do so with any great efficiency.

McCain doesn't seem to be a great organizer or delegater, in that his campaign often issues contradictory messages. Even McCain himself has made his positions on important issues ambiguous, if not contradictory. Most sadly, he doesn't seem to readily learn from his mistakes. He doesn't seem to grow, and every president must grow into the job.

McCain's campaign strategy, such as it is, has acted to appeal to very narrow interests, to single-issue voters. He rails against taxes, without considering the value of the investments of tax revenue in our future. He contends that government really doesn't do anything very well, while he offers himself up to lead the government. He has acted divisively and inconsistently.

Obama has demonstrated will, yet he refrains from acting impulsively. He has changed his tactics from time to time, but his positions on strategic issues have remained consistent. Most importantly, he has demonstrated that he is open to learning, that he listens and thinks before he acts, yet he has shown the capacity to make choices, act on them, and live with the consequences.

These are reasons I support Obama's candidacy. Not a shared racial heritage, not that I like him, not that I feel he resembles me, but because he has provided evidence that he has the potential and the dedication to be a successful leader for this nation.

Posted by: lonquest | October 24, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

The world has changed since then, and Obama is in some ways very different from JFK. In my thinking, we're actually less likely to see a "test" from abroad with him as a president.

If McCain wins, the rest of the world will shake their heads in disbelief that Americans again have elected someone with an outdated and misguided approach to foreign policy. They will likely see that as a probable continuation of the provocative "Bush doctrine". This may very well inspire someone to launch an attack in order to make a point of their disapproval.

If we elect Obama, we will show the world that Americans are wonderful, open-minded, and tolerant people who look beyond the color of a person’s skin, and understand the importance of having an intelligent and thoughtful individual leading our country.

The fact that Obama has grown up among people of both Christian and Muslim faiths can only be a plus. The Middle Eastern countries will see that there is hope for some real positive change in U.S. foreign policy and give Obama some time to show what direction he will take.

Obama is no wimp. As we have seen in the last several weeks, he would be a better negotiator; more balanced, steady, and respectful. After watching the debates, I cringe at the thought of having McCain at a table of foreign leaders.

The fact that the large majority of the world is hoping that Obama wins the presidency should tell us something.

Posted by: LetReasonWin | October 24, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

One thing that isn't mentioned in the article is the secret personal relationship that developed between JFK and Khrushchev, as stated in the recent book JFK and the Unspeakable by James W. Douglass and supported as fact by materials now publicly available that are cited in the book. These materials lead me to believe that if Kennedy had lived, the cold war might have ended much sooner than it did. Obama's openness and his willingness to talk cast him in a similar light. McCain's bluster and tendency to shoot from the hip would not serve him well in this regard. It's a matter not only of temperament, but also of self esteem: McCain is not personally secure enough to look for anything in common with an enemy. And let's not forget that in his choice of vice-presidential candidate he would assure that the country would be even worse off in that respect if something were to happen to him.

Posted by: obrie389 | October 24, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

No-one will underestimate the courage of John McCain during his military career as a young man in that bomber plane with the target in his site awaiting the signal to "fire" nor will anyone discredit his honor and dedication to this country as a POW.

Tho his young heart was undoubtedly pounding with enthusiasm to do his part with focused patriotism mixed with the inevitable adrenaline rush in light of the task at hand as he readied in the bomber plane, the whole argument about being challenged changes when you are instead, the Commander-In-Chief. Facing the enemy takes on a whole new dimension when you are the man next to the red phone making a decision for the WORLD. That is, the person deploying the command to "Shoot" vs. being the soldier/sailor/grunt/marine at the ready waiting for the call.

McCains' world in 1966 was vastly different than it is now. Temperments have changed and new technology has created the ability to wage war in more hostile ways than we imagined possible in the 60's and 70's. Even the range of effectiveness has been hugely widened from the A-bomb's inclusive area to more than our minds can bear to know.
That, in effect, makes diplomacy and cool-headed decisive action play the biggest part in keeping our enemies at bay in today's world.

My fear is that McCain is the typical older,retired,military hero still looking back to his days of patriotic honor and valor, still stuck in the mindset of the "way we used to do things". Most of us have grandfathers, fathers/mothers, aunts/uncles and siblings that have served in the ranks telling similar stories who can relate to McCains' experience. I wonder if those other brave men and women would feel that their close brushes with war or death would qualify them as tested and ready to serve as president.The reality of their heroic contribution doesn't undermine their patriotic part in making our country great but it does NOT serve as a testament to the challenge and testing for the responsive readiness of our next president.

McCain will indeed ALSO be tested if he is elected, for enemies will not take into account nor 'remember' his role as the young bomber pilot in 1966 when considering waging war or otherwise on the US in 2009. The leaders of 1966 no longer exist. This is a new regime with different ideals,motives and ammunition.

There is grave importance and NEED for a president who can calmly and intellectually lead without the emotion of past history in his heart. One who will surround himself with the best advisers who come together with new thought and proven historic insight to protect and lead with caution and decisive action....in that order.

The warriors of yesterday have done their service and we, as a nation, deeply thank them. However, it's time for new leadership in this advanced game of defense.

Posted by: rjs_donal | October 24, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Normally, I prefer the Post but in the case of Biden's so-call gaff, thank goodness for UTube! That's where i heard the complete recording of Biden's comment. Sadly, the Post did no better than the others because the seemed not to have listened to Biden's comment fully. After setting up his point by reminding that enemies will test a new president, he concluded saying that those who try will find that Barack has a spine of steel.

Clearly, a simply thing like listening to the recording to the end--another few seconds--would undercut the storyline that McCain has used to discredit Biden and Obama. Shame on the Post. I expected better.

Posted by: edarden1 | October 24, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

The 67-page report is called "An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches."

I know it sounds crazy.

YOU HAVE TO READ THIS EVIDENCE. It is 67 pages of the most mind-blowing analysis of Obama's major speeches, revealing complex hidden hypnotic language patterns. The document is spreading all over the internet.

I know there is no way I will convince you, so just read the document.

Google for the document - it is all over the web.

Everyone who hasn't read it agrees it sounds absurd, yes it does, and apparently the media is pretending like they haven't read it.

Psychologists, hypnotists and NLP experts are coming out saying this document is "exceptional", having cracked a hidden linguistic code in Obama's speeches like those developed by a Dr. Milton Erickson, the father of modern hypnosis.

Obama conjures up images of your children and JFK, and then uses hidden hand gestures to transfer those feelings onto him, and uses complex hypnotic language patterns to sideline rational judgment. Not just subliminal messages, but complex engineered hypnotic patterns, non-dominant hemisphere programming, and clinical hypnotic trance inductions, all buried in his speeches.

As crazy as this sounds, imagine how mind blowing to find out it is real. It is one of the most amazing things I have ever read in my whole life.

It is on scribd here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7470439/Obamas-Use-of-Hidden-Hypnosis-Techniques-in-His-Speeches

also here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7470439/Obamas-Use-of-Hidden-Hypnosis-Techniques-in-His-Speeches

I know everyone is going to make fun of this because of how absurd it sounds. So go ahead and read it, hot shots.

If the media chooses to ignore this, after the election they will have a lot of explaining to do.

In other words, if you consider yourselves objective, fact-check this!

Posted by: besquared28 | October 25, 2008 2:40 AM | Report abuse

The 67-page report is called "An Examination of Obama's Use of Hidden Hypnosis Techniques in His Speeches."

I know it sounds crazy.

YOU HAVE TO READ THIS EVIDENCE. It is 67 pages of the most mind-blowing analysis of Obama's major speeches, revealing complex hidden hypnotic language patterns. The document is spreading all over the internet.

I know there is no way I will convince you, so just read the document.

Google for the document - it is all over the web.

Everyone who hasn't read it agrees it sounds absurd, yes it does, and apparently the media is pretending like they haven't read it.

Psychologists, hypnotists and NLP experts are coming out saying this document is "exceptional", having cracked a hidden linguistic code in Obama's speeches like those developed by a Dr. Milton Erickson, the father of modern hypnosis.

Obama conjures up images of your children and JFK, and then uses hidden hand gestures to transfer those feelings onto him, and uses complex hypnotic language patterns to sideline rational judgment. Not just subliminal messages, but complex engineered hypnotic patterns, non-dominant hemisphere programming, and clinical hypnotic trance inductions, all buried in his speeches.

As crazy as this sounds, imagine how mind blowing to find out it is real. It is one of the most amazing things I have ever read in my whole life.

It is on scribd here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/7470439/Obamas-Use-of-Hidden-Hypnosis-Techniques-in-His-Speeches

also here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7470439/Obamas-Use-of-Hidden-Hypnosis-Techniques-in-His-Speeches

I know everyone is going to make fun of this because of how absurd it sounds. So go ahead and read it.

If the media chooses to ignore this, after the election they will have a lot of explaining to do.

In other words, if you consider yourselves objective, especially the media, go ahead. I dare you. Fact-check this document.

Posted by: besquared28 | October 25, 2008 2:42 AM | Report abuse

Democrats for John McCain and Sarah Palin in 2008

Posted by: hclark1 | October 26, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

As usual, the Post stands true to their bias commitment to their saviour Obama! I love how transparent their true bias is reflected in their conclusions. Reminiscent of the New York Times and NBC.

During this very difficult financial period, has anyone taken notice that Obama, instead of being frugle and consevative in his spending, has now spent more money than any other presidential candidate in the history of the United States in his attempt to buy the White House? Last gigures I read were over $600 Million dollars abd counting. he must expect a tremendous return on his investment. Ever heard the rumor that you can buy the Presidency of the United States? Well, it's no rumor, he's doing it and so many blind and ignorant people are part and parcel to the whole sale sell out of this nation to our enemies. How truly pathetic.

The author mentioned Kennedy, but in truth, Obama nor McCain, can hold a candle to this man. At least Kennedy beleived in God and as for Obama, well, as I have said many times before, he will deceive many! In fact, he has already done a tremendious job of winning the hearts and minds of the blind and foolish!

If Obama is elected, there will be no "trial" for him, from a world political point of view. All of his terrorist friends and radical Islamic power brokers have already proclaimed him to be their messiah. Consider Louis Farrakan's comments in 2007, concerning Obama! "Our messiah" Consider Al Jezerrah's news reports which praise Obama.

Why don't you poor blind and ignorant souls who love Obama just hand over the keys to this nations future and safety to Hezzbollah and Hamas, not to mention Osama Bin Laden who is probably a close relative of Obama. I have never been more ashamed of the American people, not ever! They are like dumb sheep being led willingly to the slaughter.

Posted by: Jordan48 | October 26, 2008 1:22 PM | Report abuse

besquared28

A very interesting post! SAdly, most of these blind sheep who foolishly endorse this servant of satan will not listen, nor will they beleive in that which is right before their very eyes.

I have conjectured that if Obama is the anti-christ, that was foretold by the prophets and by Christ, he will deceive many, he will seduce men into thinking that he is a man of peace. That he can solve the worlds problems. Sadly, many will forfeit their eternal souls in folowing this man of evil.

Will the blind beleive this? Not at all. I have often said that this man is a liar and a deceiver, and I have little dount that he is a man who serves this prince of darkness of this world.

Posted by: Jordan48 | October 26, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Where were these "experts" who get hypnotized at bus stops and in elevators when Bush was running his campaign and administration?! I've read the WHOLE 67 pages and just sit shaking my head at this latest "Swift Boat" attempt. The desperation of you people is stunning! Having destroyed the nation in 8 short years, socialized part of the banking industry, the mortgage industry and a large part of the insurance industry, the neocons have the astonishing gall to call Obama a "socialist"! Having started two wars, tortured, jailed thousands with no due process, increased the span between rich and poor in the US, they have the pure cynicism to claim Obama is not Christian!! Those of you who voted for and supported and still support this madness really do need to look at the potential for hypnotic trance states controlling your "rational" processes. I've never once seen or heard Obama speak, except in a sound byte here and there, but gosh! His powerful hand movements and speaking style and word patterns GOT me!! I've already voted for him. I do see the world in more complex terms than gay marriage and abortion, so I'm obviously "intelligent", which makes me more prone to hypnosis. If it's on the internet--not peer-reviewed, not answered, not based on anything valid (I teach around the world on brain training techniques)--it just MUST be true!

Posted by: pvdtlc | October 26, 2008 3:24 PM | Report abuse


I am not here to praise what Bush has done. In fact, there may be a lot we agree on.

However, the issue now is Obama. You have no idea who Obama is. He is not who you think he is. It would be a grave mistake to elect this man. Why not wait?

I notice you do not have any points to refute the evidence of Obama's use of covert hypnosis in his speeches. This document is verified by more and more experts every day.

The proof of his use of hypnosis is not just to show his deception about nearly every aspect of who he is. Obama is a hypnotist with a G-d complex and he believes he is the Messiah. There is no telling what he may do to prove that to the world.

This guy came out of nowhere, he is putting on a facade, and when you find out who he is, you will be very sorry. I don't mean Bush sorry. I mean nuclear-armed Hitler sorry. I dont just mean in the racist sense, I mean in the "the world is mine" sense. Don't you think supporting Hitler in the 1930's sounded like a good idea at the time? Obama uses many of the same hypnosis techniques.

His psychological profile suggests someone who acts like his absolute right to the Presidency and control of the world is unquestionable and long overdue. Why do you think people say he is the "greatest leader of a generation" and "sent by g-d" when all he has done is give speeches? Because those are the hypnotic programs he is sending.

"A light will shine down, it will light upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself, I have to vote for Barack?"

Believe me. You have no idea who Obama really is.

Posted by: besquared28 | October 26, 2008 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: besquared28 | October 26, 2008 11:59 PM | Report abuse

One thing that has largely been forgotten in the rewrite of history is that Kennedy secretly "traded" our existing missile sites in Turkey and Italy for the Soviet's new, and at that point, non-functional, missile site in Cuba. http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/COLDcubanmissile.htm
It was popular to say how JFK stared down Kruschev and he blinked first, to make JFK seem brave and victorious. The truth is Kruschev wanted the Turkey missile site gone and he won that.
As for Bay of Pigs, before Eisenhower left office he had planned on US air support to help the exiles win. Without that, JFK sent them in for a slaughter. With air support, Cuba likely wouldn't have been communist for the last 47 years.
It may be nice to rewrite history so JFK comes off as a great president, but his blunders (remember he got us into Vietnam) have stayed with us until today.
Comparing Obama to Kennedy is really no compliment. At least Kennedy had some real experience on his side and even then, he almost destroyed the world. Let's hope the effects of Obama's first test in his 1st six months in office don't last for another 50 years like Kennedy's first test.

Posted by: barry7 | October 27, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

When I was in basic training at Fort Knox in 1962, I helped guard Cubans who were still regrouping from the Bay of Pigs (until they went to a more southern installation as winter approached). Does that give me enough experience to be the Commander in Chief? I suppose my family would say yes. But how does it come about that McCain, who after all, was just the tip of the arrow, not it's archer, become experienced enough to lead us? I'm sorry he was shot down and went through hell - but I come up short when I try to state what command positions he has held. Selecting Palin for vise president is no proof of competence!

As for JFK, he only sent advisors to Viet Nam. Who knows for sure where that would have led?

Posted by: Electronwriter | October 27, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

The fact the economy is a worry on everyones mind should we really trust what the canidates are telling us about their tax policies. Hanlon has been bashing McCain for the last couple weeks but now he starts an attack on Obama's tax plan. It also has links to a tax caluclator that would show you how much your family would be effected. Interesting read.

http://www.greenfaucet.com/hanlons-pub/dueling-obama-tax-calculators/91256

Posted by: macebruce | October 30, 2008 4:06 PM | Report abuse

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