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Posted at 6:00 AM ET, 03/ 9/2011

Michele Bachmann's 'bombshell' on a 'hidden' $105 billion

By Glenn Kessler


NBC - Meet The Press

"There was a Congressional Research Service report that just was issued in February, and we discovered that secretly, unbeknownst to members of Congress, over $105 billion was hidden in the 'Obamacare' legislation to fund the implementation of 'Obamacare'. This is something that wasn't known. This money was broken up, hidden in various parts of the bill."
--Rep. Michele Bachmann, March 6, 2011

"This is a crime against democracy. No one knew that Harry Reid, [Nancy] Pelosi and Obama put $105 billion in spending in the bill. ... This is a bombshell."
--Bachmann, March 8, 2011

You have to give Rep. Michele Bachmann credit. The Minnesota Republican certainly knows how to command attention -- and how to liven up a dreary discussion of the federal budget on the Sunday morning talk shows by holding up a sign that declares: "$105,464,000,000."

Even in Washington, $105 billion is real money.

But her assertion raises questions. Is it possible for a major piece of legislation, carefully analyzed by the Congressional Budget Office before final passage, to "secretly" contain so much spending? Let's find out.

The Facts

Bachmann is correct that there was a Congressional Research Service report issued in February, titled "Appropriations and Fund Transfers in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act." It is actually an update of an earlier report first issued in October.

In January, former Rep. Ernest Istook (R-Okla.) wrote an analysis of the October report for the Heritage Foundation, decrying what he saw as "an attempt to handcuff the current Congress" with directives on spending in future years. "Obamacare was designed to be the governmental equivalent of kudzu -- growing everywhere, propagating by multiple means, and sinking in its roots and becoming impossible to control," Istook wrote.

Here's where it gets complicated. There is a total of $105 billion identified over 10 years in the CRS report, though only three programs, worth a little more than $25 billion, are funded the full 10 years.  Most of the other programs listed in the report are funded for just a year or two, or perhaps five years. If Congress wants to alter this spending, it will need to pass a new law.

Istook, in an interview, acknowledged, "Congress has the authority to change this, that's absolutely right," but as a former member of the Appropriations Committee he believed it is inappropriate for a bill authorizing new programs to also fund so many of them.

Administration officials and other analysts, however, note that regularly appropriated money -- also known as mandatory spending -- is common in major pieces of health care legislation involving Medicare, Medicaid and the like. There are many other programs in the bill that are subject to annual appropriations, just not the ones identified in the CRS report.

While Bachmann in her television appearances echoed Istook's argument that Obama "tied the hands of Congress," her main points have been that "this money was broken up, hidden in various parts of the bill" -- something akin to a "slush fund" -- and that it was done "secretly, unbeknownst to members of Congress."

This is bordering on ridiculous. The Congressional Budget Office, the official arbiter of congressional legislation, conducted extensive analyses of the health-care bill. Many of the specific programs identified in the CRS report were listed and examined in the CBO reports that were regularly issued as the legislation made its way through Congress. The CBO reporting also included estimates of the spending for these programs year by year. For complicated reasons, the numbers in the CRS report and the earlier CBO reports are not always exactly the same, but much of it was there in plain sight.

In fact, Bachmann is only talking about half of the ledger. The Obama administration insisted that the health care bill be "paid for" through various revenue raisers and cost cuts in order to not increase the deficit. In the end, CBO declared that the health care bill would reduce the deficit over the next decade.

We have noted there are issues with how that deficit figure was reached, but it is disingenuous of Bachmann to talk only about the costs without noting that, in theory, all of this spending is fully funded.

There is a further problem with Bachman's charge of "hidden" spending. The CRS report refers repeatedly to the many announcements made by the Department of Health and Human Services in recent months that it had spent some of the money authorized by Congress.  In other words, the administration has not tried to hide this money at all; instead, it has trumpeted each dollar spent in a press release.

As for the claim that "this money was broken up, hidden in various parts of the bill," we think she means that there were different sections in the legislation, depending on the issue.  This is common practice for virtually all major bills, and it is not unusual or nefarious at all.

Bachmann's spokesman did not respond to a request for comment.

The Pinocchio Test

There is no "bombshell" except Bachmann's bombast.

She is correct that Congress already has appropriated some spending in future years, but her claim that this money was "hidden" does not have credibility. The money for these programs was clearly described and analyzed by the Congressional Budget Office before the legislation was voted into law.

She needs to get a new sign.

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These are the people who were not so long ago considered the extreme nutjobs in the Republican party. Their antics are unsound, completely disfunctional, and embarrassing. Now they have taken over the Republican party.

These vicious lunatics know no bounds. They are lie, cheat, steal, and destroy for their agenda, and their agenda is not sound. They have even resorted to bullying members of their own party. Senator Lugar, for instance, has been threatened for disagreeing with their antics.

If Eisenhower were alive today, they'd be referring to him as a "lib-tard" or "Rino" and maligning his character. These people are a disgrace, and they are now in charge. The sane members in congress and the senate who are Republicans have had their voices squelched.

If Bat-chit Bachman's blatantly ridiculous rhetoric is sanctioned, then every sane Repbulican with a sense of decency should realize they made a big mistake in their tactics to obtain more members and should do everything they can to fight for campaign reform.

Talk about cutting of your nose to spite your face. Look at what your party has become.

Posted by: jakrdy | March 9, 2011 6:57 AM | Report abuse

Her assertions aren't "bordering" on ridiculous.

They ARE ridiculous. If they are "bordering" on anything, they are bordering on insane.

The Republican party has been over-run by John Birch Society lunatics and utterly insane bigots; and this observation is absolutely free of any Pinocchios.

Posted by: jakrdy | March 9, 2011 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Weird how Kathleen Sebelious doubtle counting Medicare savings that will never exist doesn't make your test.

You are so scared of Bachmann because she is smart. She is better educated that a journalist.

Where did the money go? How was it spent? No one seems to know, and the WaPo doesn't care.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 9, 2011 7:05 AM | Report abuse

You are so scared of Bachmann because she is smart. She is better educated that a journalist. ........


Posted by: Cornell1984

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"She is better educated that a journalist." ???

I'm certainly not scared of her, but then I'm not a journalist. I don't like her because she's a liar and has no integrity.

Posted by: James10 | March 9, 2011 7:19 AM | Report abuse

Weird how Kathleen Sebelious doubtle counting Medicare savings that will never exist doesn't make your test.

You are so scared of Bachmann because she is smart. She is better educated that a journalist.

Where did the money go? How was it spent? No one seems to know, and the WaPo doesn't care.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 9, 2011 7:05 AM

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the type of "fringe lunatic" that needs to be eradicated from America.

We don't need them there! I say we capture them all and send them to Germany as they wait for the next world war!

Posted by: TheChampisheretoo | March 9, 2011 7:22 AM | Report abuse

I searched Washington Post. They never covered the $105 billion in additional spending. In fact, in many articles, they claimed that the implementation and spending wouldn't start until 2014.

Did the Washington Post FORGET to cover $105 billion in spending?

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 9, 2011 7:26 AM | Report abuse

more brainless bachmann buffoonery...michelle ARE YOU HYPNOTIZED?"

Posted by: ptrppr100 | March 9, 2011 7:26 AM | Report abuse

There is nothing quite like the person who is a LEGEND in their own mind preaching what she knows as if she has discovered something important and revelatory.

She did however sponsor:
" The Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act".

Perhaps the highlight of her career.

Posted by: Tipidancingbear | March 9, 2011 7:26 AM | Report abuse

I love Michele Bachman, mainly because she torques off leftists. If leftists hate you, you're doing something right..

Posted by: wewinyoulose1 | March 9, 2011 7:27 AM | Report abuse

I'm all for the signs and Bachman. She draws attention to nasty pieces of legislation that need to see the light of day. You didn't bother to investigate Sebelius bad accounting practices but suddenly Bachman's practices need to be questioned? Where are you heading the last bit of your integrity you leftist rag?

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | March 9, 2011 7:36 AM | Report abuse

Fact Checker says Obamacare is funded "in theory". Well that is not actuallity or fact. The funding and spending part of Obamacare is a FACT. Lets stick to the FACTS, fact checker.

Fact Checker seems to be light on the pinnochios on liberal progressive Democrats, and heavy on any of the opposition, especially the "tea party" crowd.

It makes Fact checker seem less about facts and more about partisan idealology.

Posted by: ignoranceisbliss | March 9, 2011 7:39 AM | Report abuse

You are so scared of Bachmann because she is smart. She is better educated that a journalist. ........


Posted by: Cornell1984
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The adjective "smart" is relative.

A monkey would think a 2 year old is smart.

Someone who can't type up one coherent sentence would think Bachmann is smart.

Anyone with an IQ over 90 would think Bachmann is complete moron.

Bachmann is the kind of person that only reacts to the fear of the unknown, and she doesn't know a lot.

Posted by: Independent4tw | March 9, 2011 7:39 AM | Report abuse

Notice how the FOX news drones are posting like crazy today. Glenn has those trained slugs dancing like trained little monkeys. Fox news poodles. What an ignorant fox news poodle posts!

Posted by: ptrppr100 | March 9, 2011 7:40 AM | Report abuse

Michele Backmann is a BOMBSHELL!

And HOT! HOT! HOT!

Also a NUTJOB!

Posted by: bigmac1810 | March 9, 2011 7:44 AM | Report abuse

Fact Checker says Obamacare is funded "in theory". Well that is not actuallity or fact. The funding and spending part of Obamacare is a FACT. Lets stick to the FACTS, fact checker.

Fact Checker seems to be light on the pinnochios on liberal progressive Democrats, and heavy on any of the opposition, especially the "tea party" crowd.

It makes Fact checker seem less about facts and more about partisan idealology.
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"It makes Fact checker seem less about facts and more about partisan idealology."

Your partisanship is what makes it seem that way, not Fact checker.

Someone with less partisanship would probably think that the tea party lies more often then the liberal democrats do based on the evidence.

Your partisanship prevents you from taking this stand, so you attack Fact checker instead. If you had an open mind, you would know that facts are not fair and balanced, so when you try to present news in a "fair and balanced" way, you have to lie.

Posted by: Independent4tw | March 9, 2011 7:44 AM | Report abuse

I love Michele Bachman, mainly because she torques off leftists. If leftists hate you, you're doing something right..

Posted by: wewinyoulose1 | March 9, 2011 7:27 AM
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Liberals hate Hitler. Your theory is debunked.

I'm all for the signs and Bachman. She draws attention to nasty pieces of legislation that need to see the light of day.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | March 9, 2011 7:36 AM
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If you were less lazy, you would have read the part of the article that proves that the "nasty pieces of legislation that need to see the light of day" were all common knowledge to anyone who read the CBO reports.

Bachmann now knows what everyone else knew 8 months ago, except we will still have to explain to her that the $100 Billion is already paid for in full through other spending cuts. I bet that take 8 months to explain to her.

Posted by: Independent4tw | March 9, 2011 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Michelle Bachmann gets nuttier and more extreme every day. She made a fool of herself on "Meet The Press" on Sunday. David Gregory asked her many questions and she answered every one of them with the same diabribe ab out ther "hidden $105 billion"!!

Bachmann is sounding more and more like Sarah Palin every day, which guarantees her a place on Faux News after she gets thrown out of Congress.

Bachmann: You are DELUDING yourself if you, in your WILDEST dreams, think you will EVER be President! You have become very radical, very untruthful, very uninformed, and VERY irrelevant. No wonder your "hidden $105 billion" diatribe rates FOUR PINOCCHIOS!

Posted by: cashmere1 | March 9, 2011 7:53 AM | Report abuse

I searched Washington Post. They never covered the $105 billion in additional spending. In fact, in many articles, they claimed that the implementation and spending wouldn't start until 2014.

Did the Washington Post FORGET to cover $105 billion in spending?

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 9, 2011 7:26 AM
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WaPo did cover the CBO reports for the affordable care act.

The CBO reports included this spending in their analysis.

Bachmann is just too dumb to understand that. I guess her followers are as well.

Posted by: Independent4tw | March 9, 2011 7:54 AM | Report abuse

Let's not mince words. She lies, and she does so on purpose. This is a typical Conservative ploy. Make up a lie so egregious that it whips the weak-minded among their base into a mouth-frothing frenzy. That in turn, propagates the lie until it becomes "common knowledge" with the entire base. Though her charges are well debunked in this article and by many outside WaPo, some Conservative posters in this forum show how the lie has grown legs. They will support it in the face of facts to the contrary. They will call the facts "lies." They willl call the messenger, WaPo, a liar. You know, the time worn Limbaughism "Mainstream Media Wolfpack." Don't you Reichwing sloganeers get tired of the same old drivel?

Posted by: Lefty_ | March 9, 2011 7:58 AM | Report abuse

I searched Washington Post. They never covered the $105 billion in additional spending. In fact, in many articles, they claimed that the implementation and spending wouldn't start until 2014.

Did the Washington Post FORGET to cover $105 billion in spending?

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 9, 2011 7:26 AM
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WaPo did cover the CBO reports for the affordable care act.

The CBO reports included this spending in their analysis.

Bachmann is just too dumb to understand that. I guess her followers are as well.

Posted by: Independent4tw | March 9, 2011 7:54 AM |


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Well said Independent4tw!!!

The Reich Wing nutjobs are hell bent on destroying this great country, and are too dumb to realize it!

I have long since rejected the State of Minnesota, my birth state, for giving the country Michelle Bachman!

Posted by: TheChampisheretoo | March 9, 2011 8:01 AM | Report abuse

Ever notice that when Kessler catches Democrats in lies (like with Obama and Hillary the other day), they get one Pinocchio and an explanation for their actions.

When Republicans get caught in a lie, their Pinocchio is always inflated and they are attacked for being dishonest.

How about finding a "fact checker" who is not such a transparent partisan? Kind of makes the whole exercise pointless if the "fact checker" is not trustworthy himself.

Posted by: clydle | March 9, 2011 8:02 AM | Report abuse

The The Republican party is in a place that scares most Americans. In their quest to wrestle the reins from Barack Obama, they are showing themselves to be not only disdainful, but incompetent. to put our information as FACT on a major TV network show is ludacris! Are these people unfamiliar with the Internet where "facts" are easily checked.

Posted by: Julescator | March 9, 2011 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Lefty_

How can you complain about partisans breaking into a "a mouth-frothing frenzy" and then post your own mouth-frothing frenzy, complete with Nazi comparisons?

Physician, heal thyself.

"Let's not mince words. She lies, and she does so on purpose. This is a typical Conservative ploy. Make up a lie so egregious that it whips the weak-minded among their base into a mouth-frothing frenzy. That in turn, propagates the lie until it becomes "common knowledge" with the entire base. Though her charges are well debunked in this article and by many outside WaPo, some Conservative posters in this forum show how the lie has grown legs. They will support it in the face of facts to the contrary. They will call the facts "lies." They willl call the messenger, WaPo, a liar. You know, the time worn Limbaughism "Mainstream Media Wolfpack." Don't you Reichwing sloganeers get tired of the same old drivel?"

Posted by: clydle | March 9, 2011 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Ahhhh, what a surprise - a Repugnicon, and teabagger no less, lying. Geeee, what a shocker.

Posted by: mglbrown1 | March 9, 2011 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Interesting that he the claims were given four pinochios when the author himself backed up the claims in a rather roundabout way.

Call it spin or misleading but the claims are not totally unfounded.

Posted by: cathyjs | March 9, 2011 8:10 AM | Report abuse

clydle:

As long as we're throwing around platitudes;

If the shoe fits, wear it. And the shoe certainly fit Mz. Bachmann.

Posted by: Lefty_ | March 9, 2011 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Michelle Bachmann is a walking, talking disaster.

Posted by: EarlC | March 9, 2011 8:17 AM | Report abuse

NEWS FLASH!!!
Republicans LIE and DISTORT facts.

Posted by: angie12106 | March 9, 2011 8:21 AM | Report abuse

I suspect at least two of the Pinocchios are there because this is Rep. Bachmann, whom the Post despises.

I think it very significant that there is $105 billion in spending which is not fully accounted for, has not been covered in this paper prior to Rep. Bachmann's statement, and which cannot be turned off ever absent an act of Congress (presumably this could only happen under a Republican administration). Saying that $105 billion is only funded "in theory" raises alarming questions, to which this article gives no answers.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | March 9, 2011 8:22 AM | Report abuse

I suspect at least two of the Pinocchios are there because this is Rep. Bachmann, whom the Post despises.

I think it very significant that there is $105 billion in spending which is not fully accounted for, has not been covered in this paper prior to Rep. Bachmann's statement, and which cannot be turned off ever absent an act of Congress (presumably this could only happen under a Republican administration). Saying that $105 billion is only funded "in theory" raises alarming questions, to which this article gives no answers.

Posted by: Nemo24601 | March 9, 2011 8:23 AM | Report abuse

"She is correct that Congress already has appropriated some spending in future years, but her claim that this money was 'hidden' does not have credibility. The money for these programs was clearly described and analyzed by the Congressional Budget Office before the legislation was voted into law."

Fact Checker you are so wrong. According to the former Speaker - Nancy Pelosi, Your assertion is impossible since NO one, including the President, knew what was in the law UNTIL it was enacted by Congress.

The CBO's analysis was (and always is) totally biased based on the fact that it is limited in its analysis to taking into account ONLY what is in the proposed legislation - they cannot apply extraneous factors, no matter how appropriate to a true analysis they might be.

Posted by: Hazmat77 | March 9, 2011 8:23 AM | Report abuse

FACTS
MILLION DOLLAR SALARY'S

MILLION DOLLARS BONUSES

CAUSED 300 TO 400 % INCREASE IN HEALTH CARE COST

HEALTH CARE CEO'S CAUSED WHAT THE REPUBLICANS CALL OBAMA CARE. HAD THE REPUBLICANS DONE THEIR JOB WE WOULD BE CALLING IT BUSH CARE
I believe in free Enterprise,but not robbery for profit
BUSH CARE OR OBAMA CARE
SOMEONE HAS TO STOP CEO'S RAIDING THE SALARY'S OF EVERY WORKING PERSON FOR GREEDY PROFITS

Posted by: theoldmansays | March 9, 2011 8:23 AM | Report abuse

MB has proven again to be a liar - and has stupid voters in her district to prove it.

Posted by: pjohn3 | March 9, 2011 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Ever notice that when Kessler catches Democrats in lies (like with Obama and Hillary the other day), they get one Pinocchio and an explanation for their actions.

When Republicans get caught in a lie, their Pinocchio is always inflated and they are attacked for being dishonest.

How about finding a "fact checker" who is not such a transparent partisan? Kind of makes the whole exercise pointless if the "fact checker" is not trustworthy himself.

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Partisan? You know there's another, more likely scenario, that maybe Republicans ARE more dishonest?

Posted by: PeterPamZ | March 9, 2011 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Once again Fact Checker proves to be a shill for the Obama administration. I've actually read ALL of the legislative monstrosity known as the Affordable Care Act. It is impossible to piece together the total spending required to implement this bill.
Bachman and Istook are far closer to being right than Fact Checker. Ask one simple question. "Was this $105 billion included in the administration's/CBO's projected program cost for the first 10 years?" The answer is no. The reason why is obvious. They didn't want it included. Now that's a 4 noser.

Posted by: ClemstonHill | March 9, 2011 8:33 AM | Report abuse

She is simply using the old Republican campaign tactic of, just say it, put the thought out there, and see what happens, it doesn't have to be true.

Posted by: rj2008 | March 9, 2011 8:34 AM | Report abuse

I am increasingly converting to the Michelle Bachmann School of "Say Anything you Want and Claim it is a Fact, and then Demand that Anyone who Disputes you needs to Prove Otherwise, Knowing that a Significant Percentage of the Gullible will have Seen your Assertion, but Not the Correction, and will Believe You".

And I am here to tell you, Michelle Bachmann is from an alien planet called Zorkan and was secretly placed in Minnesota by a council of Zorkonians intent on taking over the earth.

Think about it: Minnesota is the state that gave us Eugene McCarthy and Hubert Humphrey. There is no way she can be a legitimate Minnesotan.

No, she is from Zorkan. And it is up to her to prove otherwise. (And remember: birth certificates can be faked...)

Posted by: PeterIII | March 9, 2011 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Bachmann is an irritating noise machine. She has, or presents herself as having, no regard whatever for facts or truth. I guess she thinks this will make her rich and powerful. It's worked for other republicans.

Posted by: MarkFromOhio | March 9, 2011 8:37 AM | Report abuse

Independent4tw: If you were less lazy, you would have read the part of the article that proves that the "nasty pieces of legislation that need to see the light of day" were all common knowledge to anyone who read the CBO reports.

Bachmann now knows what everyone else knew 8 months ago, except we will still have to explain to her that the $100 Billion is already paid for in full through other spending cuts. I bet that take 8 months to explain to her.
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Yet you failed to notice that Sebelius lied. I guess it's only okay when it's your side who lies to hide the higher costs for Obamacare.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | March 9, 2011 8:37 AM | Report abuse

I would just like to thank the Post for the Fact Check column. I assume most of what Bachmann says is made up nonsense, but I was wondering if this was true, and lo and behold there it was in your column. Thank you.

Posted by: marydave8 | March 9, 2011 8:40 AM | Report abuse

How strange when it was also reported that W. Bush hid a trillion for the Iraq war in an hidden account.
Sounds like a real bunch of BS.

One thing for sure I would never believe a word Bachmann says let alone any republican. It even shames me to spend years as a registered republican and stupid enough to even donate.

Posted by: mac7 | March 9, 2011 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Don't these congressmen/congresswomen READ the bills before they are passed?....Oh wait....I forgot....Nancy Pelosi did say that you have to pass the bill before we know what's in it!!!

Posted by: SeniorVet | March 9, 2011 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Tipidancingbear wrote: She did however sponsor: "The Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act". Perhaps the highlight of her career.

I must admit I was surprised to learn that Bachmann is now pro-choice.

Posted by: tomguy1 | March 9, 2011 8:45 AM | Report abuse

The light bulb in this ladies' head has a power that never exceeds 10 watts!

Posted by: MikeV2 | March 9, 2011 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Bachmann is a savvy liar.

Posted by: hitpoints | March 9, 2011 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Tipidancingbear wrote: She did however sponsor: " The Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act". Perhaps the highlight of her career.

Yes, way to tackle the important issues. I was surprised, however, to learn that Bachmann is pro-choice when it comes to anything.

Posted by: tomguy1 | March 9, 2011 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Bachman's sign is fine -- it's the Post that decided all this spending was there, but it wasn't news. So the Posties are jealous that Bachman scooped them.

Admit it, Posties, you backed a bad, deceptive, and atrociously expensive bill that America hates. Just suck it up and tell the truth -- we don't hate you, just the evil that you do.

Posted by: chrisinwien | March 9, 2011 8:49 AM | Report abuse

Not surprising when dealing with career politicians of either party ........... they certainly DO NOT look after the interests of this country or it's people.

But those lobbyists & big money donor just love it.

Whatever happened to that government by the people for the people?
It seems to have vanished........ guess we would need lobbyists to throw money at these career politicians!!

We now have a Cashrarocy, instead of a Democracy in this country.
The best government that the moneyed can buy!!

Posted by: bkarpus | March 9, 2011 8:52 AM | Report abuse

As a life-long, devoted Republican I am embarrassed and ashamed by the the course my party has taken since the so-called "Tea Party" came into exisitence. Bachman and her ilk are making a laughing stock of the GOP. I wish Boehner would "grow a pair" and kick these lunatics to the curb.

Posted by: mddg7772 | March 9, 2011 8:53 AM | Report abuse

So the only thing wrong here is that although what she aid about the expenses existing in the Obama budget is that they were not "hidden"? What if she had asked each legislator who voted yes for the bill if they could easily point out this expenditure at the time or even before she brought it up? If they could not then it would not be known or in plain sight. That is like having small print in you contracts isn't it? Is small print in contracts considered legal in most states? What about plain English contracts? Why would the Obama administration make this law so complicated that very few could figure it or understand it? Is this the new transparency?

Posted by: nychap44 | March 9, 2011 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Is it possible to have a month of silence that would cover both Palin & Bachmann? Give them no coverage, just completely ignore them. I felt so liberated in February....

Posted by: anonymouslurker | March 9, 2011 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Independent4tw: If you were less lazy, you would have read the part of the article that proves that the "nasty pieces of legislation that need to see the light of day" were all common knowledge to anyone who read the CBO reports.

Bachmann now knows what everyone else knew 8 months ago, except we will still have to explain to her that the $100 Billion is already paid for in full through other spending cuts. I bet that take 8 months to explain to her.
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Yet you failed to notice that Sebelius lied. I guess it's only okay when it's your side who lies to hide the higher costs for Obamacare.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | March 9, 2011 8:37 AM

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Yawn!

Desertdiva1, go [blank] yourself. Stupid Teabagger! "Your side" is destroying the middle class and America!

Posted by: TheChampisheretoo | March 9, 2011 8:56 AM | Report abuse

Michele Bachmann has a solid history of lies, not just this one. She has never demonstrated the skills to provide insight or even to outline her positions in relation to policy.

It doesn't take a WaPo article to draw conclusions about her at all. She is a conspiratorial demogogue- ala Glenn and Rush.

For those uninformed about Ms. Bachmann (including her complete lack of academic or professional accomplishments), one has only to look behind her "law" career, her "religiosity", and take notice of her complete lack a single proposal or initiative on behalf of her constituents.

Look up "Stearns County Syndrome". It explains her popularity among the delusional Right of Minnesota's 6th.

Posted by: rowens1 | March 9, 2011 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Don't these congressmen/congresswomen READ the bills before they are passed?....Oh wait....I forgot....Nancy Pelosi did say that you have to pass the bill before we know what's in it!!!

Posted by: SeniorVet
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"...away from the fog of the controversy."

I love when IDIOTS repeat this rhetoric without finishing Pelosi's sentence.

Does it make you feel like you are correct when you take people out of context?

It is ironic that you choose to create a "fog of controversy" around this topic, by taking Pelosi out of context. It is ironic because Pelosi's statement means that some people will never beleive what is actually in the bill because people like you lie about it. The only way to get ignorant people to understand the bill is to pass it and let them see the benefits first hand.


For example:

A baby bird sits in his nest looking down, thinking that he can't possibly fly.

The momma bird pushed the baby out, and the baby bird flies fine.

The baby bird is the ignorant people who think this bill will destroy the country. The momma bird is Pelosi, who understand the bill and how it will be fine, so she passes the bill in order for you to stop thinking it will fail and see it work.

Posted by: Independent4tw | March 9, 2011 8:58 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Fact Checker. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Thanks, also, to all you posters who have researched and learned about MB. You're right - she's possibly more dangerous than Mrs. Palin because she actually sits in Congress. We'd better watch her because she's also on the "House Intelligence Committee" and participating in the charade Representative King is pulling to cause friction over Muslims in this country. Why are they trying to destroy our great democracy with their hard-line, right-wing hate? This cannot stand, to quote MB.

Posted by: njglea | March 9, 2011 8:59 AM | Report abuse

That Bachmann is ignorant, stupid, insane, and completely dishonest is not news. Nor is it news that her Faux News followers are also ignorant, stupid, insane, and dishonest, as proven by the wingnuts' comments here. If the sane members of the GOP (assuming any are left) don't realize that she and St. Sarah the Wacko are destroying what little credibility the GOP has left, 2012 will be an incredibly blue year.

Posted by: luridone | March 9, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

I call Fact Check! Ernest Istook was a representative, not a senator.

Posted by: gmart68b | March 9, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

As a life-long, devoted Republican I am embarrassed and ashamed by the the course my party has taken since the so-called "Tea Party" came into exisitence. Bachman and her ilk are making a laughing stock of the GOP. I wish Boehner would "grow a pair" and kick these lunatics to the curb.

Posted by: mddg7772 | March 9, 2011 8:53 AM

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Sorry to inform you, put "Boner" doesn't have a pair! He needs the "lunatics"/Teabagger set as it is the only hope Republicants have of staying in power.

Lie to the people, talk about religion and Christianity, condemn illegal immigration, and get them all worked up into a deep froth. You win elections that way, but you desroy America in the process!

How selfish the GOP is these days.

Posted by: TheChampisheretoo | March 9, 2011 9:02 AM | Report abuse

The stupid little woman goes on "Meet the Press" holding up poster boards in front of the camera, as if that poster board with 105 billion written on it was somehow going to make her look more legitimate and smarter.

If the GOP had any sense and we know they don't, they would rein in Bachmann with a rope and a cattle prod.

The woman is definitely a loose cannon. She's also ignorant too.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | March 9, 2011 9:12 AM | Report abuse

My problem with most people that drop bombshells are if they are wrong they never admit to being wrong. How about the hundreds of millions that were being spent on the Presidents trip to India. Never saw a statement from people that charged this that they were wrong. And the statement from people that make mistakes that they mispoke is a bunch of you know what. I do not care who the person is, Republican, Democrat, Independent, etc. if they are wrong say so. If people make up things they should be help responsible.

Posted by: usnsnp | March 9, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

The woman is a harpy who thinks that using slash and burn oratory is going to show that she can hoist her leg as high as the big boys. The information is skewed to a falacy, the conjecture is partisan and the intent is not productive- it is disruptive. And if this was actually the case, Cantor or McCarthy would have found it and exposed it- and then they would have set up flash cards so Boehner could understand it and make some weepy, outraged speech about it. I almost feel that if Michelle gets water thrown at her- she will melt. She doesn't really want to make things better- she wants to be famous.

Posted by: poppysue85 | March 9, 2011 9:14 AM | Report abuse

The spawn of sarah.....these two dingbats are an embarassment to women everywhere. Take back their right to vote!

Posted by: dem4life1 | March 9, 2011 9:16 AM | Report abuse


"Is it possible for a major piece of legislation, carefully analyzed by the Congressional Budget Office before final passage, to "secretly" contain so much spending?"

When you're a nincompoop like Michele Bachman, quite a bit escapes that dense head.

Posted by: helloisanyoneoutthere | March 9, 2011 9:17 AM | Report abuse

The Koch brothers need to equip their tea party spokesmodels, Bachmann and Palin, with more than one sound-bite per appearance. Or perhaps that is all they can fit on their palms. Even if their stupidity hasn't gotten old yet, surely their shrillness must be wearing thin.

Posted by: eed017 | March 9, 2011 9:25 AM | Report abuse

yeah, but when did lying ever get in the way of good politicing?

Posted by: OneWhoSpeaksTruth | March 9, 2011 9:26 AM | Report abuse

The folks on the right WILL ONLY BELIEVE what Bachman and her ilk tell them. That's why they can always count on their core constituency, because they don't believe in objective facts.

Posted by: ripper368 | March 9, 2011 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Hmmmm. Seems to me that a representative has an obligation to become familiar with a bill before voting. That doesn't necessarily mean reading the entire bill; some bills are almost ridiculously technical and there's nothing wrong with getting a briefing from a staffer or team of staffers.

And here Weeping Boy Boehner thought he was only screaming at Democrats when he yelled "Don't tell me you've read it, because you haven't. Hell, no. Hell no."

Posted by: jlhare1 | March 9, 2011 9:32 AM | Report abuse

My favorite part of the Post's Fact Checker blog is the comment section. One day it's all, "He's a partisan hack for the teabaggers!" and the next it's all, "He's a partisan hack for Obummer!" If someone disagrees with you, they must be a partisan hack.

Posted by: dkp01 | March 9, 2011 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Peterlll wrote: Think about it: Minnesota is the state that gave us Eugene McCarthy and Hubert Humphrey. There is no way she can be a legitimate Minnesotan...........


And don't forget that Minnesota also gave us JESSE VENTURA and AL FRANKEN!! I think the people of Minnesota have stayed out in the cold too long!

Posted by: cashmere1 | March 9, 2011 9:35 AM | Report abuse

The only truth I know is because of this bill my health insurance raised in price by 97 dollars. It stinks...

Posted by: sokumina | March 9, 2011 9:38 AM | Report abuse

The only truth I know is because of this bill my health insurance raised in price by 97 dollars. It stinks...

Posted by: sokumina
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Insurance premiums rose by 2% because of the affordable care act this year.

The rest of the 8% average increase is do to the recession and the increase in cost for medical devices.

At least that is what the expert analysis says. Did you bother to read it or are you too lazy?

Posted by: Independent4tw | March 9, 2011 9:42 AM | Report abuse

Did you know studies show that when partisans are presented facts that counter their beliefs, they not only ignore the facts but harden their beliefs? They find it too hard to admit they're wrong or were manipulated.

Bachman has long record of distorting, twisting and fabricating the truth, but each time it happens her followers support her even more.

Give her credit for being smart enough to know this.


Posted by: LestWeThink | March 9, 2011 9:45 AM | Report abuse

This whole spectacle is depressing.

First, we have a prominent Republican who knows that her supporters will believe anything she says - even in the face of facts.

And then there are her supporters who hate anything they don't understand and are perfectly willing to be made fools of by writing incomprehensible comments to an article that just proved Bachmann is a liar.

And these are the people who strangely have more influence in government and the press than all the scientists and other experts who are screaming warnings about the direction the right is taking us.

Bachmann and the right are proudly building a 19th century America to compete in a 21st century world.

Posted by: Trakker | March 9, 2011 9:51 AM | Report abuse

Once again, the blithering of Congresswoman Gaga.

Posted by: bs2004 | March 9, 2011 9:54 AM | Report abuse

This bought any paid for shill of the Koch Brothers is spewing misinformation. The Tea Party fools care not that it is lies wrapped in false justification. The good news for America is that a movement based on lies is doomed to fail. The only question is how much rubble will there be to clean up?

Bachmann is nothing short of a traitor and enemy of democracy. The people will not stand silent at her lies.

Posted by: fare777 | March 9, 2011 9:55 AM | Report abuse

Stuff like this is why I don't trust politicians, period, no matter what party or ideology they profess. They all twist facts to suit their own purpose. Thanks for checking on this.

Posted by: brunnegd | March 9, 2011 9:56 AM | Report abuse

All you Democrat Liberals. Your invectives clearly show that you paid no attention to the "Civility Memo" from POTUS. But we forgive you. We too do not understand Swahili!

Posted by: fregameeate | March 9, 2011 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Rep. Bachmann, please run for President!! Please please please!!!

Sincerely,

Late-night talk show hosts
Comedians
The Democratic National Committee
All sane Americans

Posted by: Observer691 | March 9, 2011 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I don't understand why Republicans want to destroy America. When the federal government collapses and we have anarchy and chaos and rioting in the streets, what do they gain?

The only explanation I can come up with is that Republicans are working for al Qaeda and have second homes in Saudi Arabia.

Posted by: foofoofoo | March 9, 2011 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Does Bachmann, and the rest of the right-wing trash, know how to spell T.R.U.T.H. or D.E.C.E.N.C.Y?

Posted by: analyst72 | March 9, 2011 10:02 AM | Report abuse

Istook is a former House member, not a former Senator. The Fact Checker needs to check his facts.

Posted by: dd1008 | March 9, 2011 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Or maybe Republicans are a front for the government of China and have been promised by that government that they will own America when it finishes collapsing.

Watching America, particularly the federal government, is like watching a tall building falling sideways slowly at first but ever faster as the Republicans continue hammering away at the federal government. When the dust settles, China will own America. It already does in large part.

Posted by: foofoofoo | March 9, 2011 10:06 AM | Report abuse

Look. At some point the mainstream media is going to have to acknowledge some responsibility for the rise of this clatch of crackpots on the right that now seem to dominate our TV screens and who have effectively hi-jacked our national debate. My question is who in the hell made the idiotic decision to put this nut job on MEET THE PRESS? I can guarantee you that no one with the insect mentality of Michelle Bachmann would ever have been permitted to foul up our airwaves as she did last Sunday on MTP under the more serious rules that our press used to operate under.

When are our news services ever going to wake up and recognize that they are not in the business of entertainment and ratings? They are supposed to be professional journalists dedicated to informing the public and elevating our national dialogue. What David Gregory has done on MTP and what other media outlets posturing as journalists are doing is making America the laughing stock of the entire world.

This is getting beyond just simple political theater. It is becoming an embarrassment.

Posted by: jaxas70 | March 9, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

TheChampisheretoo wrote: Yawn! Desertdiva1, go [blank] yourself. Stupid Teabagger! "Your side" is destroying the middle class and America!
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ROFLMAO my day is complete when I can thoroughly p*ss off a liberal. Thanks for playing.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | March 9, 2011 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Weird how Kathleen Sebelious doubtle counting Medicare savings that will never exist doesn't make your test.

You are so scared of Bachmann because she is smart. She is better educated that a journalist.

Where did the money go? How was it spent? No one seems to know, and the WaPo doesn't care.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 9, 2011 7:05 AM
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Is that the only argument you guys can come up with? Is that we are some how scared of these MORON's you guys on the right hold so dear? No body is scared of them, we are more so shocked by their level of Stupidity and how they can just like with impunity!!

Posted by: Angryman | March 9, 2011 10:12 AM | Report abuse

If the Bachmanns of the political spectrum take over the congress, I will leave the country.

Posted by: YadaYada1 | March 9, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

And how many pinocchio noses do we give this joker who wrote this hit job piece ?Wake up America!!

Posted by: votingrevolution1 | March 9, 2011 10:14 AM | Report abuse

If the Repos had good ideas, they wouldn't need so many clowns and nuts like the Teabaggers.

Posted by: analyst72 | March 9, 2011 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Tea Party & this New Republican Party (I do not know anymore what this party represent) are just liars!
What have they done since taken control except start-up protest after protest with policies that are totally anti-american and anti-average-american.
"Tea Party and Republican" Campaign Bumper Sticker for 2012..
Vote GOP 2012! "Screw Americans and Give It All to Corporate Elites"
or
Vote GOP 2012! "Young is Out and The Old is In"
or
Vote GOP 2012! "If your're poor forget it, If you are rich you get it."

Posted by: KBrustmeyer2003 | March 9, 2011 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Bachmann is using Gingrich tactics; start a lie then step back and let it spread like a virus.

Fear and hate in America is Palpable.

Posted by: knjincvc | March 9, 2011 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Michelle Bachman is a typical, lying bagger.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | March 9, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

One "fact" conveniently forgotten was the rushed process through which the Pelosistas passed this hideous legislation: literally) in the middle of the night. Representive Bachman pointed this out by the way; guess, you conveniently forgot that fact as well. But to quote Pelousy: "We need to pass it, so we can see what's it it." She was not joking folks.

Posted by: CubsFan | March 9, 2011 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Living in Minnesota during winter is enough to drive anyone crazy.

Posted by: ozpunk | March 9, 2011 10:32 AM | Report abuse

Bachmann is completely crazy as are all these loons posting about how the Post never informed them about this phony travesty she conjured up for them. Sadly it's this same group of wingnuts who either cannot comprehend what they read or are so throughly brain damaged by their constant exposure to Fox "News" Propaganda that they have lost any ability to reason rationally and immediately respond by blathering on here whenever one of their puppet masters pulls any of their strings with some crazed right wing nonsense.

Posted by: trbajaz | March 9, 2011 10:37 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: Cornell1984 |

Weird how Kathleen Sebelious doubtle counting Medicare savings that will never exist doesn't make your test.

You are so scared of Bachmann because she is smart. She is better educated that a journalist.

Where did the money go? How was it spent? No one seems to know, and the WaPo doesn't care.
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Bachmann is smart! That is the funniest thing I've heard since Sarah Palin said she was qualified to be president. Bachmann is a clueless ditz. No one is scared of Bachmann, even the Republicans were embarassed by her awkward, staring off into space, teabagger rebuttle to the State of Union

Posted by: adwashburn | March 9, 2011 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Cornell1984, Prove it. You have shown you know how to mimic someone, now come back with the evidence you have showing bachmann and you are right. Idiot.

Posted by: fmamstyle | March 9, 2011 10:43 AM | Report abuse

When will we get a reporter to state the facts without a "spin"? We need reporters to search for the truth and report it without leaving themselves open for critical comments. Just tell the true and let it lie, didn't they teach you that in college or was the teachers teaching spin as well?

Posted by: dy19spider57 | March 9, 2011 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Clearly the congresswoman is simply out to get attention and raise her own profile, regardless of how nutty what she says truly is, or if it's even the truth. Sadly, folks believe that, mostly because many don't understand the legistlative process. It's often absudly complicated, so that's understandable. Making up things is not, however.
The congresswoman definitely needs to pay more attention to what's going on in chambers ...

Posted by: cjames1 | March 9, 2011 10:50 AM | Report abuse

And yet all the right wing nuts will still go around repeating Bachmann's B.S... it's kind of funny.. sad but funny.

Posted by: cmsatown | March 9, 2011 10:53 AM | Report abuse

She will like those noses.

Posted by: rusty3 | March 9, 2011 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Bachmann follows the Republicant story book. Tell a lie loud enough and often enough, and some people will believe it. It works for her, Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, and the rest of the idiots. And she is the face of the tea party, as well as a nut.

Posted by: COLEBRACKETT | March 9, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Bachmann - Thanks for the Trillions in Defense spending far and above what we pay in Taxes...Southern States

Posted by: Airborne82 | March 9, 2011 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Dreams are a funny thing. I thought I was awake today, but then I read here where someone wrote "Bachmann is smart." Obviously I am still dreaming because for someone to think Bachmann were smart, that person would have to be dumber than Bachmann, which we know is not possible. Bachmann is the person whom no other person can be dumber than. Ergo: I AM still asleep.

Posted by: polysciprof | March 9, 2011 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Bachmann - Thanks for the $160~$200 Billion over ten years to supplement my already coffers.....Rich Agriculture Corporations

Posted by: Airborne82 | March 9, 2011 11:15 AM | Report abuse

So what she's saying is....no one reads or understands the laws they're voting on?

Posted by: rjm1 | March 9, 2011 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Bachmann's followers are WAY too stupid to understand the explanation. They can understand $105 Billion and when they are lied to by Bachmann with simple to see 3rd grade flash cards they buy it hook, line and sinker. To explain the actual budgetary process to them simply is a sensory overload for their simple little pin-headed minds to fathom. So they believe Bachmann cuz it is the lazy stupid thing to do.

Posted by: rcc_2000 | March 9, 2011 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"Bachmann is smart"??? I saw her on Meet The Press this past weekend... she repeats the same thing over and over and over again in some kind of hypnotic state... she doesn't even address questions asked of her - - Kinda' straight outta' Palin's book, WINK WINK.

These bots remind me of people in cults.... you can see the blank stare in their eyes as they regurgitate information given to them by any source that backs their misguided agenda. Oh and the props they use are precious... DOPES.

Posted by: ANTGA | March 9, 2011 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I sincerely hope that all of the Bachmans, Palins and Pauls are swiftly elevated to the highest elective offices attainable in our country. The political system is in dire need of re-invention and renewal based on sanity. The only way I see this happening is if the current political system completely crashes and burns. I think that Bachman, Palin and Paul are precisely the type of politicians that can expedite the process. Please keep ranting on. Please keep exciting and goading the gullable. The faster we hit rock-bottom, the sooner things will begin to improve. Thank you, Michelle, Sarah and Rand. Keep it up.

Posted by: prestoj | March 9, 2011 11:31 AM | Report abuse

I sincerely hope that all of the Bachmans, Palins and Pauls are swiftly elevated to the highest elective offices attainable in our country. The political system is in dire need of re-invention and renewal based on sanity. The only way I see this happening is if the current political system completely crashes and burns. I think that Bachman, Palin and Paul are precisely the type of politicians that can expedite the process. Please keep ranting on. Please keep exciting and goading the gullable. The faster we hit rock-bottom, the sooner things will begin to improve. Thank you, Michelle, Sarah and Rand. Keep it up.

- Grand Master of the KKK

Posted by: ANTGA | March 9, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Do you really have nothing better to do with your time than to fact-check Michele Bachmann?

As a Republican from Minnesota, please allow me to explain something to you: Michele Bachmann is bat dung insane, and everybody knows it. What's the use in fact-checking a crazy person?

You'd be doing your readers a much greater service by fact-checking politicians who are actually attempting to be taken seriously. Bachmann is a side show clown. Just laugh at her, and get back to doing real work.

Posted by: afsljafweljkjlfe | March 9, 2011 11:33 AM | Report abuse

You need a new category of five Pinocchios if you are going to report on things Bachmann says. The women should undergo a psychiatric evaluation. I have seen her interviewed a number of times, and she never answers the question that was asked. She looks like she is in a trance and just starts spouting Tea Party talking points. I had some respect for the people of Minnesota, but I cannot imagine how she go elected?

Posted by: cdierd1944 | March 9, 2011 11:35 AM | Report abuse

What's "Obamacare"? Oh, right, it's the perjoritive code word that every single republican is required to use when publically referring to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. All this does is insult the American people, do you think they write "Obamacare" in official documents?

Posted by: fluxgirl | March 9, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

@ANTGA: - Grand Master of the KKK

And exactly what do you mean by this?

Posted by: prestoj | March 9, 2011 11:36 AM | Report abuse

To the readers who think I give more Pinocchios to Republicans than Democrats...

Hey, just yesterday I gave Obama 3 Pinocchios for his claims on budget cuts!

Seriously, the awarding of Pinocchios is the hardest part of my job. It is by its nature a bit subjective, but I try hard to be consistent.

My impression is that some Republicans tend to be less willing to explain the facts behind their statements; Bachmann does herself no favors by having a spokesman who does not respond to media inquiries. (Haley Barbour's people last week also did not respond to repeated questions.) By contrast, the White House and State Department are very responsive, as is Romney and many Republicans on Capitol Hill. This is not to say someone gets more Pinocchios if he or she does not respond to my questions but it certainly makes it harder to understand why they made their statement.

I am always on the lookout for material. If you think Obama or other Democrats have made statements worthy of four Pinocchios, send me some nominations and I will look into it.

Posted by: glennkessler | March 9, 2011 11:38 AM | Report abuse

@ANTGA commented: - Grand Master of the KKK

Do you not read, or does irony simply escape you?

Posted by: prestoj | March 9, 2011 11:40 AM | Report abuse

These dingbats can't think on their feet - that's why they play the blank stare card and ignore questions. You saw it in the Palin - Biden debate... just repeat your line... stay on message... ignore questions about your stance... use catchy phrases like "say it ain't soooo joooo" and "Meeeevarick eh".

Posted by: ANTGA | March 9, 2011 11:41 AM | Report abuse

@ANTGA: - Grand Master of the KKK

And exactly what do you mean by this?

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If I have to explain - forget about it.

Posted by: ANTGA | March 9, 2011 11:44 AM | Report abuse

If I have to explain - forget about it.

Very Palinesque.

Posted by: prestoj | March 9, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Further evidence of just what a liar and how dishonest Obama really is.
He could care less about the US deficit or the US debt.
Just as long as he has a few hundred billion to spend where ever he wants to.
And you can bet that won't be in the United States.

Posted by: JimW2 | March 9, 2011 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm beginning to wonder just how bizarre this woman has to get before conservatives stop making incredibly STUPID remarks about how liberals are upset by this woman's brilliant espousal of the most idiotic conservative canards.

The only thing liberals would welcome more than a Palin presidential nomination would be a Bachmann nomination. If I can assist the Republican Party in making either one a reality, they have only to ask.

Posted by: st50taw | March 9, 2011 11:49 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like the Alaskan dingy is your idol. Do you carry misspelled signs at tea bagging events too?

Posted by: ANTGA | March 9, 2011 11:50 AM | Report abuse

One "fact" conveniently forgotten was the rushed process through which the Pelosistas passed this hideous legislation: literally) in the middle of the night. Representive Bachman pointed this out by the way; guess, you conveniently forgot that fact as well. But to quote Pelousy: "We need to pass it, so we can see what's it it." She was not joking folks.
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1. She was not joking, indeed.
2. -You- are the "joke.@

3. Here's the truth about your "fact," Numnuts: The comment came when the bill was in the Senate; therefore, one had to wait until it "passed" to see what changes had been made or recommended. The term "pass" refers to a bill coming out of discussion.

Posted by: elgrunir | March 9, 2011 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Palin/Bachmann 2012
"Because there is no longer any shame in being stupid"

Posted by: rcc_2000 | March 9, 2011 11:59 AM | Report abuse

To elgrunir : MAHVEEERIKK (WINK WINK)

Posted by: ANTGA | March 9, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

What's more amazing is that somehow the spending was "hidden". Even though the spending was listed in the bill and thousands of copies were distributed to congressmen and their staff, those sneaky Obamaistas "hid" the spending. I guess it is hidden, if you don't take time to read the most significant piece of legislation in decades. But really, why should Michelle Bachman actaully do her job? It's much more fun to throw uninformed bombs.

Posted by: chadborman | March 9, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I don't know who you are nor do I really care. However, what do I see is that you don't comprehend what you read on a post before responding. Your last post confirms this as a solid fact.

Try reading the posts and attempt to understand them before throwing out snarky comments that you would not likely make without being shielded by a keyboard.

Posted by: prestoj | March 9, 2011 12:00 PM | Report abuse

TO elgrunir: MAHVEEERIKK (WINK WINK)

Posted by: ANTGA | March 9, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

michelle is alway's good for a dose of crazy, run for President Michelle remind us why we don't need another moron like bush.

Posted by: calif-joe | March 9, 2011 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Surprise!Surprise! A lawmaker uncovers more of the dirty deeds done under Obamacare and, as usual, all the lefties can do is call her names and insult her intelligence. tsk tsk.

Posted by: mckenna7 | March 9, 2011 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Do you burn books and crosses fairly often, McKenna?

Posted by: ANTGA | March 9, 2011 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Surprise!Surprise! A lawmaker uncovers more of the dirty deeds done under Obamacare and, as usual, all the lefties can do is call her names and insult her intelligence. tsk tsk.

Posted by: mckenna7 |
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How do they do it? How do they get you people to stop thinking for yourselves and get you think what they want you think?

Do you not understand that what she is claiming was reported on over and over again? The fact that Ms. Bachman did not understand the funding source or how the funds were distributed for the bill should be alarming to anyone that voted for her. She has said on NATIONAL TELEVISION that she doesn't understand how to read a bill!

Doesn't that scare you?

Posted by: justonevoice | March 9, 2011 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Bachmann is not so dumb. She KNOWS she's lying and stretching points, but her dimwitted followers not only eat it up - they stand up for her lies as well. I find the whole thing so amusing and it was fun to look into the minds of her followers....

Posted by: Patricia013 | March 9, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

This is soooo typical of Bachmann. I saw her on the Sunday political talk shows. It didn't matter what question the host asked her, her response was the same mantra about the $105 billion that this article was about. Once she gets an idea in her head, it doesn't have to be right or factual, it just needs to appeal to her. Sort of like the $200,000 cost for the Obamas to take some trip recently, which of course, was totally manufactured. Fortunately, she only appeals to be people of equal daffiness and is about as serious as candidate as someone to run a local lemonade stand.

Posted by: sassafrasnewport | March 9, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Mouser beware


WP why do you guys give this crazy lady a voice? It is apparent that the Republicans and her did not read the Affordable Healthcare Act, by her own admission.

Apparently, talking heads like her are not serious about legislating; she is more interested in scoring political points and milking tea party followers and folks in this blog for campaign contributions to support her reelection efforts.

For the last time, if she wants people to see her as a serious lawmaker, she must use text in her thesis that is germane to legislation she is referencing.

For example: Affordable Healthcare Act has been reduced to Obamacare. What a joke, I wouldn’t let her pet my pussy or in her world “mouser”

Posted by: nateminor | March 9, 2011 12:13 PM | Report abuse

As long as this nit-wit can capture a news story from anyone anywhere, she will continue with her no brainy comments that fill her mouth with lies, disortions, misinformation and just plain jibberish.

Posted by: rbsher | March 9, 2011 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Let's not mince words. She lies, and she does so on purpose. This is a typical Conservative ploy. Make up a lie so egregious that it whips the weak-minded among their base into a mouth-frothing frenzy. That in turn, propagates the lie until it becomes "common knowledge" with the entire base. Though her charges are well debunked in this article and by many outside WaPo, some Conservative posters in this forum show how the lie has grown legs. They will support it in the face of facts to the contrary. They will call the facts "lies." They willl call the messenger, WaPo, a liar. You know, the time worn Limbaughism "Mainstream Media Wolfpack." Don't you Reichwing sloganeers get tired of the same old drivel?

Posted by: Lefty_ | March 9, 2011 7:58 AM
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You're right. Cornell1984 is right -- she's smart. Because she's so smart, she fully understands what she needs to do to pander to people like DesertDiva, who simply bite on these ranting soundbites, hook, line and sinker. Like Palin (who isn't smart) she knows what it takes to get these people all riled up and pumping for her. Beyond that, she has nothing.

Posted by: sassafrasnewport | March 9, 2011 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Like Ezra Kleiin defending the sneaky 1099 burden within Obamacare, Glenn Kessler probably also has his own liberal bias.

Kathleen S. obviously was being very disingenuous until unable to squirm out of answering the double count questions.

Who knows if Bachmann is right about this and how it all breaks down. These days who knows who is honest or not, or which policies are meant to deceive?
Even the most innocent looking are found out to be criminals --i.e. Rangel, Giethner, etc. Yet they remain in high power positions.
This is all absurd -- who is to say Bachmann doesn't have it right?
Are you going to trust Kessler?

Posted by: pjcafe | March 9, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Um, folks, does anybody remember when the the Bush admin would request funding for the Iraq war as a series of "supplemental" funding requests and thereby avoid having the REAL COST of the war included into the budgeting process.

Now that's the tried and true method for "hiding" money in the budget. Any surprise that Republicans perfected it?

Posted by: brendan2alexander | March 9, 2011 12:22 PM | Report abuse

A bombshell? Bachmann? She's okay. But I wouldn't call her a bombshell!

May be a bomb or a shell, but definitely not a bombshell!

But she is partially right about not knowing what was in the budget. For that matter, she does not know many other things. And ignorance is pure bliss for her. And her fellow Teapublicans.

And she is a very tenacious person. On the Sunday talk show She was latched onto the 105B discovery (that is the $105 Billion in hidden costs) like a leech clinging on a bleeding wound! Poor David Gregory asked her a variety of questions and she answered all of them with "$105 billion." That included the temperature outside.

Posted by: kishorgala | March 9, 2011 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Bachmann is not only an alien spy bent on destroying America, she is an actual alien from the planet Zorkan. I read it somewhere and repeated it here so it is a plain as the nose on your face TRUE.

Now that we've proven she is an alien invader we can conclude the Tea Party is made up of Zorkanian spies helping "Ms. Bachmann" destroy this great country. Tea Party alien traitors all, call immigration and get them rounded up!

Posted by: Observer001 | March 9, 2011 12:27 PM | Report abuse

News update! Not ONLY is Michelle Bachmann proven to be a Zorkanian but we just learned she's a MUSLIM Zorkanian!

Posted by: Observer001 | March 9, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

In the spirits of some state Republicans' recent attempts to raise the age requirements for voting (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/03/06/AR2011030602662.html), I make the following proposal: before a citizen votes, he or she must pass a test that demonstrates he or she understands the foundational documents of our nation and how our government works. It's sad that people who are naturalized citizens know more about our nation than those who are native to it.

Posted by: binaryboy | March 9, 2011 12:30 PM | Report abuse

How many Pinocchios do we need for Obama's transparency (etc.) campaign promises?

Posted by: pjcafe | March 9, 2011 12:36 PM | Report abuse

I've watched Bachmann on MTP and in every questions Gregory has asked she has replied about the "secret $105B" like it was new to her. It was to the point that he has to say to her "YOU MADE YOUR POINT!" You could also see his frustration.

Another point made is what Istook's so called analysis for the Heritage Foundation decrying about it. In the next sentence, he admitted that Congress can change the law. The funny thing is he relied only on the CRS's report rather include the CBO's in his analysis as well.

Posted by: beeker25 | March 9, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

This is what the CBO stated about Barry's insurance scam:

"Congress attorneys in the Congressional Research Service ("CRS")and Congressional Budget Office ("CBO") advised, long before the Act was passed into law, the notion of Congress having the power under the Commerce Clause to directly impose an individual mandate to purchase health care insurance is "novel" and "unprecedented"."

The CRS/CBO also stated:

"A mandate requiring all individuals to purchase health insurance would be an unprecedented form of federal action. The government has never required people to buy any good or service as a condition of lawful residence in the United States. An individual mandate would have two features that, in combination, would make it unique. First, it would impose a duty on individuals as members of society. Second, it would require people to purchase a specific service that would be heavily regulated by the federal government."

In other words, Barry, Harry and Nancy knew that it was very likely that Barry's H.C. insurance scam, that they shoved down all American throats, was unconstitutional. They spent 15 months of congressional work, forcing a bill into law that they were already informed by the congressional lawyers was extremely unlikely to be constitutional and forged ahead with it.

It is also interesting with all of the rhetoric coming from the news about what the CBO stated in positive support for the bill,
that not one major news agency mentioned that the CBO lawyers had notified congressional leaders that it was likely unconstitutional.

Posted by: jacquelynwoods | March 9, 2011 12:37 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet her husband encourages her ... to travel a lot.

Posted by: chucko2 | March 9, 2011 12:38 PM | Report abuse

If I wasn't reading this with my own eyes I wouldn't believe it. You backwoods, teabaggers have been shown clearly that Bachmann is a bald faced liar and instead of calling it what it is, you start talking about someone else. Don't you see why the majority of the population thinks you're out and out stupid? And for anyone of sound mind to suggest that Bachmann is more intelligent than anything short of a rock is otherworldly. You folks are frothing at the mouth so much that you have lost the ability to reason.

Posted by: robsmarq | March 9, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I would suggest someone put Kessler on the FactChecker, but there are not that many Pinocchios in existence...

Posted by: josh27 | March 9, 2011 12:41 PM | Report abuse


It's all smoke and mirrors with Fact-Checker Kessler.

Kessler focuses on the government not trying to hide the info about having already received funds and giving Bachmann pinocchio's.

The importance of Bachmann's announcement of the Obamacare funding in an already passed Stimulus bill, means that it will be almost impossible for Congress to defund Obamacare.

Remember, the Republicans only control the House.

And those who support Obamacare should ask themselves why Congress or the President is exempt?

And why waivers granted to over 1000 companies and unions if it's such a good program?

Why, because Obamacare is a disaster for Americans.

And why doesn't Kessler mention Sebelius' talking thru both sides of her mouth at the hearing on funding of Obamacare? It's going to cost more to fund and it will add to the deficit.

As far as the CBO numbers, they can only estimate on the junk info the Dems feed them.

Wake Up America!

Posted by: janet8 | March 9, 2011 12:43 PM | Report abuse

The sad part is millions of people will accept what she says as fact without even bothering to find the truth, so in that respect she is very "smart". As a society we are too lazy to do the math. Just give us our catchy sound-bites and fundamentalist ideology you'll go far.

Posted by: netguy1 | March 9, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

"CBO Director Says Obamacare Would Reduce Employment by 800,000 Workers"
The Weekly Standard

Feb 10, 2011

By JEFFREY H. ANDERSON

"Testifying today before the House Budget Committee, Congressional Budget Office (CBO) Director Doug Elmendorf confirmed that Obamacare is expected to reduce the number of jobs in the labor market by an estimated 800,000. Here are excerpts from the exchange:

Chairman [Paul] Ryan: '[I]t’s been argued...that the new health care law will create jobs and increase labor force participation. But if I recall from your analysis, it was quite the opposite. Is that not the case?'


Director [Douglas] Elmendorf : 'Yes.'...

[…]


Rep. [John] Campbell: 'Thank you, Mr. Chairman, we'll -- and Dr. Elmendorf -- and we'll continue this conversation right now. First on health care, before I get to -- before I get to broader issues, you just mentioned that you believe -- or that in your estimate, that the health care law would reduce the labor used in the economy by about 1/2 of 1 percent, given that, I believe you say, there's 160 million full-time people working in '20-'21. That means that, in your estimation, the health care law would reduce employment by 800,000 in '20-'21. Is that correct?'


Director Elmendorf: 'Yes. The way I would put it is that we do estimate, as you said, that...employment will be about 160 million by the end of the decade. Half a percent of that is 800,000.'"

Posted by: jacquelynwoods | March 9, 2011 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Lies and boobs. That's been the GOP's theme for years.

Posted by: amstphd | March 9, 2011 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Willing to lie about things in order to deny 30 million Americans healthcare? Now that is whack.

Posted by: Geopolitics1 | March 9, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

The last time Michele Bachmann made a big splash it was to inform the American people about President Obama's trip to India. She said that it was costing the country 200 million a day and it included 40 U.S warships. She said it was true because she saw it on the internet!

Posted by: Hawkestreet1 | March 9, 2011 12:48 PM | Report abuse

The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that over the next 10 years, the administrative costs of implementation could run from $5 billion to $10 billion each for the Internal Revenue Service and the Health and Human Services Department - costs that could require budget increases." WaPo

Posted by: jacquelynwoods | March 9, 2011 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Not seeing how this warrants 5 pinnochio's unless it's because she's a republican.

Regardless of the lies Obama tells, Obamacare WILL raise the deficit and has already and will continue to raise healthcare costs.

Posted by: hebe1 | March 9, 2011 1:04 PM | Report abuse

"CBO: Health Care Bill Will Cost $115 Billion More Than Previously Thought"
ABC News

May 12, 2010

"The director of the Congressional Budget Office said Tuesday that the health care reform legislation would cost, over the next ten years, $115 billion more than previously thought, bringing the total cost to more than $1 trillion."

Posted by: jacquelynwoods | March 9, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Go easy on Michele Bachmann.

She obviously based her comments on a posting (which was not cited) some staffer found from a blog in India. She knows if it is on the Internet, it has to be true.

Just like it was when she claimed that Barack Obama's 2010 visit to Asia was costing, what, $200 million a day?

Please don't confuse her with facts. Or reason.

Posted by: TheShadowKnows | March 9, 2011 1:12 PM | Report abuse

There is little that Ms Bachmann says these days that doesn't border on the ridiculous.

Just look at the woman, she's a pod, a drone brainlessly repeating over and over. Time to change the air whistling between her ears. As a source of comedic relief, she's a national treasure - as an elected legislator, she's an embarrassment.

Posted by: JilliB | March 9, 2011 1:13 PM | Report abuse

I looked it up on Politifact.com. They had a somewhat similar rating. They said the money was spent, but not secretly, and that such expenditures were common for many congressional bills. They gave it a "Barely True."

Posted by: tinyjab40 | March 9, 2011 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Congressional Budget Office December 23, 2009

"To describe the full amount of HI trust fund savings as both improving the government’s ability to pay future Medicare benefits and financing new spending outside of Medicare would
essentially double-count a large share of those savings and thus overstate the improvement in the government’s fiscal position."

"The key point is that the savings to the HI trust fund under the PPACA would be received by the government only once, so they cannot be set aside to pay for future Medicare spending and, at
the same time, pay for current spending on other parts of the legislation or on other programs."

Posted by: jacquelynwoods | March 9, 2011 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Rank and File Retard in the Modern Conservative Party. Even if you're not religious, I urge you to say a prayer for this country. These RETARDS are doing to drag this once great country down the toilet into a world of Idiocracy.

Posted by: Ve1ostrummer | March 9, 2011 1:33 PM | Report abuse

Interesting how certain Conservatives make profound, epic discoveries and assertions after testing the waters on Twitter or Facebook, for the most part. Can anyone explain why she accepted to be part of a Lame Stream media broadcast? That aside, it's curious how neo cons fail to acknowledge or accept the documented facts that their idol,Ronald Reagan,used appropriations to raise the national debt from a little more than $160 billion in 1981 to over $785 billion by the time he left office. Most Americans weren't aware of that spending but it's common practice for presidents to use appropriations to hide actual spending while the budget tallies the public sees offer a semblance of fiscal responsibility. Too bad there were no Democrats with little signs to warn Americans back then.

Posted by: Wordpower | March 9, 2011 1:34 PM | Report abuse

Bachmann is not dumb at all. She's smart enough to twist facts and/or lie (as in this case) to try to fool the true dumdums out there. It's amazing to me that the state of Minnesota keeps voting for this type of person to represent them. I would be totally embarrassed to be put in the same category as her. No one knows for sure what the new health care law will eventually cost -- just like Bush's Iraq War has cost us a trillion dollars (not the $22 Billion that Bush sold some of you "true believers" on).

Posted by: lyndee1 | March 9, 2011 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Once again Fact Checker proves to be a shill for the Obama administration. I've actually read ALL of the legislative monstrosity known as the Affordable Care Act. It is impossible to piece together the total spending required to implement this bill.
Bachman and Istook are far closer to being right than Fact Checker. Ask one simple question. "Was this $105 billion included in the administration's/CBO's projected program cost for the first 10 years?" The answer is no. The reason why is obvious. They didn't want it included. Now that's a 4 noser.

Posted by: ClemstonHill

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And who the F are you to over ride the conclusion from a panel of experts who spent months on it? Did you draw it all out on Glenn Beck's chalkboard?

I'm sick to death of right wingers dismissing professional opinions Every. Single. Time. an outcome doesn't match your discredited ideology.

Posted by: theobserver4 | March 9, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

Congressperson Bachmann is an idiot and professional hate-monger. Her lies and distortions are so commonplace that anyonre who listens is bound to be wasting his/her time.

Posted by: sameolddoc | March 9, 2011 1:48 PM | Report abuse

last I heard there was no bill written at the time it was voted in...
also where does the certified version of the bill go after the President signs it...
what makes you think the cbc got the right bill...
it's not unheard of to have the dems pulling dirty tricks on the American public...
maybe the master at arms of the house should safeguard legislation that body votes on...
and the same in the senate...
by the response here...
a coverup is in the making...

Posted by: DwightCollins | March 9, 2011 1:54 PM | Report abuse


Oh please ! Didn't the Republicans predict limited spending for the War in Iraq, and didn't Republicans PROMISE to use Iraqi Oil Revenues to pay for that war?

Of course they did.

The difference here is:

Republicans DEMAND that every penny of American Taxpayer Money be spent overseas.

Democrats DEMAND that every penny of American Taxpayer Money be spent in America.

I like the Democrats plan better. It recycles the American Taxpayers' Money BACK to the American Taxpayer.


Posted by: lindalovejones | March 9, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

You people seem shocked, now that the natural result of "we need to pass the bill to find out what's in it", has happened.
You find it hard to believe that a representative would find 105 billion hidden in various programs, yet you idiots never even question this administration's having double-counted 500 billion dollars, after stealing it from the Medicare trust fund...And admitting it on video.

You leftist are the absolute lowest form of life.
I would call the whole damn lot of you liars, but it wouldn't be fair to decent liars.

Posted by: MrMeaner | March 9, 2011 2:00 PM | Report abuse

She's always good for a laugh. Psycho Bi###!

Posted by: PepperDr | March 9, 2011 2:04 PM | Report abuse

"We have noted there are issues with how that deficit figure was reached, but it is disingenuous of Bachmann to talk only about the costs without noting that, in theory, all of this spending is fully funded."

"In theory"...LAUGHING HARD and CRYING!!!...Washington needs to stop passing stuff with no intention of paying the bill. Sick Ba$tard$...all of them.

Posted by: RobMc1 | March 9, 2011 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Not enough Pinocchios, Glenn.

This one is off the charts.

Posted by: sasquatchbigfoot | March 9, 2011 2:11 PM | Report abuse

We are only what...13 trillion in debt? When the creditors come calling, it will be ugly.

Posted by: RobMc1 | March 9, 2011 2:15 PM | Report abuse

Dang! She found the 105 billion Dems were trying to cover up!.. Perhaps we should have her trying to find WMD or the jobs Bush's tax cuts for the rich were supposed to create.. she might even be able to find Republicans' long lost common sense.
Nah.. that's long gone.. she's got a better chance of finding WMD.

Posted by: cmsatown | March 9, 2011 2:17 PM | Report abuse

And when she repeated this over and over on MTP Sunday, they just let it slide. So much for LIBRUL media they keep complaining about.

Posted by: jimbobkalina1 | March 9, 2011 2:20 PM | Report abuse

I knew about that $105 billion before the bill was even passed. Ther was never anything hidden about it.

For the writers of tha ACA to leave every dime of its funding at the mercy of the next Congress would have been as egregiously incompetent as is was for Michelle Bachmann to take more than a year after the bill was passed to find out about that funding.

This story just proves Bachmann is stupid and incompetent, as well as a whiner and a liar.

Posted by: lonquest | March 9, 2011 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"If leftists hate you, you're doing something right.."
Just one more reason why rightwingnuts admire Hitler.

Posted by: gzuckier | March 9, 2011 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Dumb as a bag of hammers, or staggeringly deceitful? Of course, there's always room for both with Bachmann.


It’s a bill — the text is public! Is Bachmann saying there are no House Republicans, members or staff, who can read a bill?!?!


Bachmann is going to create at least one job before her reign of error is over: She is going to create a job for a psychiatrist.

.

Posted by: DrainYou | March 9, 2011 2:46 PM | Report abuse

@DrainYou,

"Dumb as a bag of hammers, or staggeringly deceitful?"

That sums it up pretty well. Of course, Bachmann is probably some combination of the two. In a lot of these cases she's clearly pushing falsehoods, because it'll garner her some support and attention. But she doesn't demonstrate a heck of a lot of intelligence either.

Posted by: JPRS | March 9, 2011 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Obama lies.
Reid lies.
Pelosi lies.

Impeach Obama.

Posted by: JCM-51 | March 9, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

When Bachmann says the appropriations were hidden in the legislation, she means to say "My fellow elected officials did not read the contents of this bill before they passed it".

As a kid in high school, I was taught to read every sentence and clause in any contract I was putting my signature to. I think we should blame passage of the healthcare act on the poor education and reading habits of our Representatives and Senators.

This makes it quite obvious that we should invest many billions in education as well.

Posted by: NashvilleAudioGuy | March 9, 2011 2:55 PM | Report abuse

This is the same Bachmann garbage as her claim that the president's trip to India was costing $200M/day and that 37 naval vessels were tied up in support of the mission. It's a lie, a damnable lie and she knows it.

Posted by: muleman | March 9, 2011 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Bachmann's assertions are more truthful than the blatant Big Lie being repeated by the Obama administration over and over again that 90% of the guns used in Mexico's drug wars come from the United States.

Posted by: pmendez | March 9, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

May I suggest that the WPost abstain from talking about conservative women (because you clearly have issues with them) and stick to licking Obama's boots during this Lenten Season.

Cheers my little bitter liberal friends.

Posted by: Finn_McCool | March 9, 2011 3:02 PM | Report abuse

When are our news services ever going to wake up and recognize that they are not in the business of entertainment and ratings? They are supposed to be professional journalists dedicated to informing the public and elevating our national dialogue. What David Gregory has done on MTP and what other media outlets posturing as journalists are doing is making America the laughing stock of the entire world.

~~~~~I agree with you to a point. However, I also believe David Gregory knew exactly what he was doing on MTP last Sunday when he was asking questions of Bachmann. She had one standard answer to EVERY question, it was her $l05 billion diatribe! She had it perfectly recorded in her mind, and she just kept repeating it. SHE is the one who was made to look stupid, foolish and ridiculous! I am sure David Gregory knew exactly what he was up against when Bachmann agreed to come on MTP. I just don't understand why they would waste time on such an irrlevant idiot.

I think Bachmann is the new Palin! The only way for the two of them to get attention is to be outrageous and stupid. But, the hillbillies love it!

Bachmann/Palin 2012
"WE CASH IN ON STUPIDITY"

Posted by: cashmere1 | March 9, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey, there! Let's not tar the whole gang with the failings of the few. And let us also not fall back on personal invective when we're writing about a real issue.
MB chose (yes, she has freedom to choose) to bombast about the spending portion of the Health Care bill without mentioning the offsetting cuts and cost-savings that would pay for the increased costs. That is a well-know and long-standing technique for "energizing" your constituents about an issue. It has, regretably, little to do with the debate that took place on the Heal Care bill prior to its passage, which the Washington Post and the Washington Times both reported on. The debate had to do with the crux of this issue - "How many of the cuts and cost savings were considered "real" as opposed to merely prospective?"
The amount of spending that was enacted with the law reflected the Members' negotiated sense of how much of the cost savings might actually be realized, and thus how much spending might be afforded over the following ten years.
In that context, I believe Ms. Bachmann probably earned all of her "pinocchios" and then some. More importantly, however, she must now abide by the consequences of her choice. If you're an optimist, her constituents will vote her out of office in the next election. If you're a pessimist, she will be nominated, run, and win, the next Presidential election. If you're a realist, she will return to office two years hence on the successful passage of a constitutional amendment for the unregulated right of all U.S. citizens to carry guns on their person anywhere but in church (except for Muslims).

Posted by: PLMAnnapolis | March 9, 2011 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't know how Minn. could get it so wrong with Bachmann and so right with Franken. But it hardly matters that Bachmann is so completely wrong. Tea Partiers have such compartmentalized thinking, submit to their leaders so completely, are so lacking critical thinking skills, that they have no problem believing the ridiculous.

Moreover, their ability to set double standards allow them to see themselves as upholding the Constitution when they withhold the funds required to enforce portions of the PPACA. I believe our FOUNDING FATHERS would have wanted a legislative solution, but the GOP/Tea Party is trying to subvert what is the law of the land (i.e., the PPACA is the law). In the end, the GOP/Tea Party will make the PPACA more complex and more expensive, when complexity and expense were two of their stated objections.

Posted by: ptgrunner | March 9, 2011 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Since Certain People seem enamored of the "double-counted 500 billion dollars" talking point, this might be a good place to point out that the Republican Balanced Budget Act of 1997 does exactly the same thing: They proudly proclaim that their Act will not only extend Medicare's solvency:
"Medicare: The Balanced Budget Act of 1997 (BBA 97) makes the most significant changes to the Medicare program — the federal government’s health care program for all seniors — since its inception in the 1960s... It also extends the life of the program’s funding mechanism, the Medicare trust fund (known as the HI or Part A trust fund)."
but also eliminate the deficit:
"Getting to a Zero Deficit: This legislation is necessary despite continued improvement in the federal deficit... The deficit was $107 billion in FY 1996 and is currently projected to be $67 billion this year. However, without this legislation, it will not get to zero."
http://rpc.senate.gov/releases/1997/BBA1997recon.htm
Nobody questioned it then, since most people have an understanding that the same sum can serve multiple purposes over time, for instance using Social Security payroll taxes to finance the Vietnam War in exchange for issuing T-bills to put in the SS asset column.
Apparently the strange amnesia which is endemic among rightwingnuts these days has extended to this matter as well.

Posted by: gzuckier | March 9, 2011 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Someone at the Stepford Institute needs to upgrade Michelle's programming.

Posted by: OldUncleTom | March 9, 2011 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Bachmann definitely needs a new sign; one from Bill Engvall.

Posted by: lestro | March 9, 2011 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Michele Bachmann creeps me out.
Like 'The Stepford Wives' creeped me out.

Posted by: Gracefulboomer | March 9, 2011 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Should this surprise anyone?

Posted by: ravensfan20008 | March 9, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

If you are interested in transparency, click on Google and type in the search window "U.S. Government.gov" … You will find a list of government websites. Then you can do your own analysis and determine what you believe about government activities, budgets and what deals people are making with each other, and how involved the White House is in pushing legislation. Additionally, you can type in the Google search window the keywords "Current Legislative" and find what is going on and who is saying what in legislative debate.

Posted by: ThelmaMcCoy | March 9, 2011 3:37 PM | Report abuse

"We have noted there are issues with how that deficit figure was reached, but it is disingenuous of Bachmann to talk only about the costs without noting that, in theory, all of this spending is fully funded."

In theory? Are you kidding me Washington Post?

Posted by: kco0513 | March 9, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Beck/Bachmann/Huckabee/Limbaugh/Rove/Hannity/Coulter/O'Donnell/FOX . . . .

And we are not supposed to compare Fox "News" to Goebbels' Network circa 1934-45?

Truth is Truth . . .Fox not only distorts, but LIES!

Posted by: lufrank1 | March 9, 2011 3:52 PM | Report abuse


Sen. John Yerkes Iselin: [addressing the Senate & remembering a number on a bottle of catshup] "There are exactly 57 card-carrying members of the Communist Party in the Department of Defense at this time! "

Scene from the Manchurian Candidate.

Posted by: Tempest1 | March 9, 2011 3:53 PM | Report abuse

One question to the tea party folks....
If Obama should be impeached for lying, should we also prosecute the people in the Bush administration for lying too?

Posted by: priceisright | March 9, 2011 3:55 PM | Report abuse

So this found $105 billion basically takes the $100 billion in spending cuts the Teapublicans are proposing off the table!

Now we keep our fingers crossed that the Teapublicans do not find another excuse to shut down the Government.

Posted by: kishorgala | March 9, 2011 4:02 PM | Report abuse

I KNEW she was a lying B[profane]! I was just waiting for someone to break down what that idiot was saying. I hate the way they let her filibuster an interview.

Posted by: case50 | March 9, 2011 4:04 PM | Report abuse

This is a story of an attention seeking proselyte who is again crying wolf. I pity the poor wolves who can be associated with such a destructive individual as is Michele Bachman. To paraphrase a line in an old movie, She wants to do the country what I'd like to do with _________ (name deleted to protect me from online abuse).

Posted by: leonh741 | March 9, 2011 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Thanks ..it was so stupid watching her scripted with props...She is a head case and dumber than the quitter which I did not think possible!

Posted by: jetlone | March 9, 2011 4:07 PM | Report abuse

"We have to pass the bill, so you will know what is in the bill"

Nuff said.

Posted by: StopGovtBondage | March 9, 2011 4:08 PM | Report abuse

The problem with HER is that her faithful followers won't read past the first paragraph and believe everything this woman says without question. The same kind of people who believed the bull about WMDs in Iraq.

They believe what they want and the facts have nothing to do with it.

Besides, we been paying for Bush's wars for 10 years now and you don't hear Bachmann or other GOP/TPers screaming foul!

I wish she'd take her meds. Her behavior is starting to make me think she hangs with Charlie Sheen.

Never let it be said that a conservative lets the facts get in the way of their fantasies and constant campaigning.

Posted by: davidbronx | March 9, 2011 4:12 PM | Report abuse

WOW,,,,The liberal pigs are in denial about "The Tricky Ones" dealings. Gee what a surprise.

Gitmo's closing! Right libs ?

Posted by: Defund_NPR | March 9, 2011 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"should we also prosecute the people in the Bush administration for lying too?"

Typical liberal smear! Of course not! Calling President Bush and his administration liers! How dare you! The law clearly states that
“a person is incompetent to testify if he does not have sufficient present ability to understand the difference between telling the truth and telling a lie and the consequences of telling a lie under oath.”
and if that doesn't describe the entire Bush administration as well as most of the recent Republican party and voters thereto pertaining, I'll eat my hat.

Posted by: gzuckier | March 9, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

So most of the dems knew what they were voting for in this health care law? He11 they had no idea what was in it, not even they are still digging out what is in it.

Posted by: tateofpa | March 9, 2011 4:20 PM | Report abuse

This proves that Bachmann is a very committed worker.

Give me a pen and paper, I will gladly commit her.

However, the damage has been done, and her troglodytic Neanderthal acolytes will trumpet her message till the cows come home.

She knows how to overload their fevered imaginations and pluck their harp strings. It is a shame the intelligence of this republic has sunk to this level of stupidity

Posted by: chamateddy | March 9, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone in America take a hysterical word she says seriously?? What a joke.

Posted by: danw1 | March 9, 2011 4:21 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe that no one is complaining specifically about what Obama's proposed budget has appropriated for Welfare and SSI. There is no way that there are that many people that can't work in this country.

Posted by: 2012anewstart | March 9, 2011 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I see Karl Rove has taught her to hold up a piece of paper with some writing on it. Excellent work, Republicans.

Posted by: danw1 | March 9, 2011 4:23 PM | Report abuse

What is absurd is for the Fact Checker to claim that the $105 billion was not hidden but was an explicit part of the Affordable Care Act.

NOTHING was explicit at the time Congress voted for that monstrosity. No one had a chance to read it before it was voted on. As for the act being fully funded, we know how that scam was perpetrated -- by counting 10 years of revenue but only 6 years of spending.

Congresswoman Bachmann is a trained tax lawyer, not just some dumb hick as so many WaPo readers and writers seem to think.

Posted by: JBaustian | March 9, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

You are so scared of Bachmann because she is smart. She is better educated that a journalist.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | March 9, 2011 7:05 AM
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LOL! This person doesn't have a clue how uninformed Bachmann is, and apparently doesn't care. THAT's even more scary than Bachmann's petulant rants.

Posted by: jayjordan | March 9, 2011 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Once again, it is all about winning, not the truth, not what is best for the Country, or its people. Lies, and distortions of fact are SOP for the GOP. She is just a little more blatant about it.

Posted by: ATC444 | March 9, 2011 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Stop the presses!! There was actually money in the budget to fund heath care. Unbelievable.

Next they'll want to fund things like defense and Social Security - where does it end?!

Posted by: MidwaySailor76 | March 9, 2011 4:33 PM | Report abuse

You are so scared of Bachmann because she is smart. She is better educated that a journalist. ........


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"She is better educated that a journalist." ???

I'm certainly not scared of her, but then I'm not a journalist. I don't like her because she's a liar and has no integrity.

Posted by: James10 | March 9, 2011 7:19 AM | Report abuse
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Yet, you the liberal puke, as usual do not address what was asked of you. It is easier to just do a bit of name calling and spewing. Just why no mention of a HALF A TRILLION dollar double counting scam. Sebilius' admission was the first time the zero administration has not LIED to the American people. Liberalism is truly a disease!

Posted by: steelers01 | March 9, 2011 4:39 PM | Report abuse

A nut-case spinning yarns. Did she even know what a bill was before she was elected?

Posted by: sober1 | March 9, 2011 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Michell Bachman...a gormless piece of crap that no one would pay attention to if she looked like a female Glenn Beck...even though she spouts the same idiotic rhetoretic. What is wrong with Americans that they give these bottom feeders attention. People need to read, analyze and then get a life excluding the known liars who are constantly spouting hate and venom.

Posted by: crew260571 | March 9, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

If you were less lazy, you would have read the part of the article that proves that the "nasty pieces of legislation that need to see the light of day" were all common knowledge to anyone who read the CBO reports.

Bachmann now knows what everyone else knew 8 months ago, except we will still have to explain to her that the $100 Billion is already paid for in full through other spending cuts. I bet that take 8 months to explain to her.

Posted by: Independent4tw | March 9, 2011 7:51 AM | Report abuse
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And we just found out from the ice queen sebilius herself....that there is a double count of $500,000,000,000. That's 500 BILLION with a B. Care to comment on what the GOP has been screaming since this pig was rammed down the throats of the American people? Who is going to step us and tell all that the CBO numbers are all garbage since they are based on pretend numbers? Garbage into the CBO returns garbage out...and that is just what we were given....garbage!

Posted by: steelers01 | March 9, 2011 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Only teabaggers would trust Bachman to speak factually. She obviously can't even handle simple math.

Posted by: mikesba | March 9, 2011 4:48 PM | Report abuse

If she says it, it is guaranteed to be wrong.

Posted by: DemoDevil | March 9, 2011 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Bachmann is mostly right. While the egregious 105 billion in funding weren't hidden no one had a chance to read the 2000 page abortion of a bill before it was passed. We are bankrupt, we need that 105 billion back. Who in their right might would give Sebellius a blank check? Every day their are new waivers. If the plan is so great why are they continuing to issue waivers- especially to union members?

Posted by: jkk1943 | March 9, 2011 4:54 PM | Report abuse

When is someone going to call her out on her hypocrisy and double standards?? I would looove to (as she has stated in the past) "look into the whites of her eyes" and ask her why farm subsidies for her family, getting money for fostercare kids she takes care of and money for her and hubby's mental health clinic in her homestate of Minnesota is ok for her?

Gee aren't all those things this Ignorant Fearmongering, Bigoted Welfare Queen has benefited from SOCIALISM??

Posted by: MsAljorie75 | March 9, 2011 4:55 PM | Report abuse

In Minnesota, we've come to expect this kind of thing from Rep. Bachmann. What I can't figure out is whether she is truly that clueless or if she is simply dishonest. Regardless, the only fraud that is being perpetrated is that she's collecting a pretty nice salary for doing a less-than-adequate job.

Posted by: cwdouglas | March 9, 2011 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Bachmann is mostly right. While the egregious 105 billion in funding weren't hidden no one had a chance to read the 2000 page abortion of a bill before it was passed. We are bankrupt, we need that 105 billion back. Who in their right might would give Sebellius a blank check? Every day their are new waivers. If the plan is so great why are they continuing to issue waivers- especially to union members?

Posted by: jkk1943 | March 9, 2011 4:54 PM
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How's it that we are broke?

We have $200 in the bank. We give the Government only $4 to run the government and have been underfunding it for years, so that it is $13 in the hole. If we paid off the deficit today, we'd still have $187.

Posted by: kishorgala | March 9, 2011 5:06 PM | Report abuse

LOL silly liberals..obamacare is doomed anyway, its UNCONSTITUTIONAL.
All this angst over implementation is like fretting over the color scheme of the chairs on the deck of the Titanic.
LOL
(and 4 Pinocchios? one or two ok, but 4? your bias is showing

Posted by: Saladin3 | March 9, 2011 5:09 PM | Report abuse

This whole world has gone crazy. Every one wants to blame Obamacare. Does anyone rembmer that Baby Bush sent people out to war to go find Bin-Ladden, then allowed all of his kids to leave the US the day after 911. The war has been going on TOOOOOO long and we are spending all the money on this war in Iraq and every where else. Now Musilms are killing Christians in Egypt. Baby Bush started this mess years ago. Now Congress wants to play the blame game. Whew yall need to read the bible and see what is happening.

Posted by: TexasTaxpayerBB | March 9, 2011 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Every time she opens her mouth I ask my self...how in the hell did she get through law school...even through college?

She is a nut case, a bomb thrower and a fire start of the first order. It seems that this is all she does in Congress.

Her big problem is that she never seems to be correct on any of the outrageous claims she makes...but she does get a lot of press.

Posted by: meyer390 | March 9, 2011 5:27 PM | Report abuse

The reason government is dysfunctional is we elect these people who are clueless about the functioning of government and yet they constantly belittle it. Republicans have long denigrated government and it is never so dysfunctional as it is when they are running it.

Posted by: tryreason | March 9, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

These are the people who were not so long ago considered the extreme nutjobs in the Republican party. Their antics are unsound, completely disfunctional, and embarrassing. Now they have taken over the Republican party.

These vicious lunatics know no bounds. They are lie, cheat, steal, and destroy for their agenda, and their agenda is not sound. They have even resorted to bullying members of their own party. Senator Lugar, for instance, has been threatened for disagreeing with their antics.

If Eisenhower were alive today, they'd be referring to him as a "lib-tard" or "Rino" and maligning his character. These people are a disgrace, and they are now in charge. The sane members in congress and the senate who are Republicans have had their voices squelched.

If Bat-chit Bachman's blatantly ridiculous rhetoric is sanctioned, then every sane Repbulican with a sense of decency should realize they made a big mistake in their tactics to obtain more members and should do everything they can to fight for campaign reform.

Talk about cutting of your nose to spite your face. Look at what your party has become.
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Now, if you replace the work Republican with Democrat and Eisenhower with Kennedy and libtard with dino...then you would have a factual post. As it is...it is just libtard spew.

Posted by: steelers01 | March 9, 2011 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I miss Tim Russert! Ever since David Gregory took the helm of Meet the Press the program has gone downhill. Why give Michelle Bachman the spotlight? Is it that David Gregory cares more about stirring up controversy than presenting credible interviews? To give an example of Bachman's credibility....she recently "educated" her audience how the nation's founding fathers fought against slavery. Huh?

Posted by: joy2 | March 9, 2011 5:31 PM | Report abuse

I love Michele Bachman, mainly because she torques off leftists. If leftists hate you, you're doing something right..

Posted by: wewinyoulose1 | March 9, 2011 7:27 AM
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Liberals hate Hitler. Your theory is debunked.

I'm all for the signs and Bachman. She draws attention to nasty pieces of legislation that need to see the light of day.

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | March 9, 2011 7:36 AM
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If you were less lazy, you would have read the part of the article that proves that the "nasty pieces of legislation that need to see the light of day" were all common knowledge to anyone who read the CBO reports.

Bachmann now knows what everyone else knew 8 months ago, except we will still have to explain to her that the $100 Billion is already paid for in full through other spending cuts. I bet that take 8 months to explain to her.

Posted by: Independent4tw | March 9, 2011 7:51 AM | Report abuse
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hmmmm, since you liberals lied about double counting the half a trillion dollars from the supposed Medicare cuts that were double counted, what makes you think the American people buy the fact that the funding will ever materialize from other sources? You lied to the CBO, you lied to the American people...and we did find out what was in the bill after the liberal fools passed this pig.

Posted by: steelers01 | March 9, 2011 5:33 PM | Report abuse

I live in Penna & I asked my Congressman regarding the Affordable Care Act (ObamaCare) as to its cost & he (a democrat) said no one had a chance to read the 2000 page abortion of a bill before it was passed.
So the WashPo is playing with diktat. When you can not see what is being voted on ... then in equity that, to me, is hidden. Next question ?

Posted by: buckaroo5 | March 9, 2011 5:34 PM | Report abuse

First, if you are going to claim to be checking facts, get your facts straight. The version of the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" that was passed by Congress was not examined by the CBO until after the report was passed by Congress. Previous versions were examined and hence the need for a supplemental report. Even Ms. Pelosi admitted that the bill "has to be passed so that you can see what's in it." As passed, the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" is replete with examples of the Democrat Congress attempting to tie the hands of future Congresses knowing full well that the bill was, and still is, opposed by the majority of Americans. While some of the restrictive language in the bill is routine, other instances are not and are clearly an attempt to make an end run around the Constitution. If a Republican Administration and Republican Congress tried to ram a health care bill like down the throats of the American people, the Washington Post would be yelling foul and blaming the Administration for precipitating a Constitutional crises.

Posted by: WriterDude | March 9, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Incredible, Cretinous IMBECILE!

Posted by: billnbillieskid | March 9, 2011 5:41 PM | Report abuse

Where were all these budget hawks during George W Bush's spend-like-a-drunken-sailor years? AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, PART D PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, TAX CUTS FOR THE MILLIONAIRES (still a priority with Republicans), and last but not least THE BIGGEST FAT-CAT WALL STREET BANK BAILOUT IN HISTORY.

Posted by: joy2 | March 9, 2011 5:44 PM | Report abuse

this article leaves out the fact that the bill was promoted as not increasing spending and then passed without senators even reading it. In my view, this was intentional just as the writer, a liberal hack, intentionally leaves out key facts on a regular basis.

Posted by: jimsr121 | March 9, 2011 5:49 PM | Report abuse

I love Michele Bachman, mainly because she torques off leftists.....

Posted by: wewinyoulose1 | March 9, 2011 7:27 AM
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Not all liberals are left-handed. And many conservatives are right-handed.

Posted by: kishorgala | March 9, 2011 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Lies Lies and damned lies. GOP gets away with many many everyday and gullible Americans believe them as they are too lazy to actually check the numbers or the facts. How do they live with themselves?

Posted by: patisok | March 9, 2011 5:58 PM | Report abuse

It was all there, she just didn't read it. Why? She couldn't be bothered with this legislation because she was going to vote no anyway.

Posted by: mcdonalsherry | March 9, 2011 6:05 PM | Report abuse

$645 TRILLION!! Thank republicans!! DO NOT THANK A TEACHER!$105 billion is a drop in the bucket when compared to the DERIVATIVE disaster of $645 TRILLION created by phil gramm (R) TX and fellow repugnant cronies. Google DERIVATIVES and read. Republicans like MB are great at turning your head to other matters but fail to let you see the truth of their destructive agenda, Would the repugnants do this to the US and the world just too spread their agenda? YES! I believe they have! Foreclosures and loss of jobs, home values have reduced the revenue for the states and the federal government. Do you think they didn't know that would happen with $645 TRILLION traded by June 2008. What do you think created the world wide financial mess? Did your paycheck stop? Why did they have to save AIG? Look at credit default swaps.
Just ask the teachers in WI, Ohio NJ, Indiana and others? Look at the chaos in the world. Look at the budget cuts the repugs are proposing on the poor but don't want the thiefs on wall street to even pay their fair share. Neo-con think tanks aren't trying to decide what you eat in the morning. If you want to get an idea of evil, just GOOGLE BOHEMIAN CLUB and find out what the members do for yourself. When you worship false gods as the members do. Do you think God is going to reward them? God isn't going to reward right wing religious followers either. How will they explain to God why they followed the Bohemian Club evil doctrines. $645 TRILLION is alot of money!!! Not $105 billion. That's only a couple of new combat fighters or an aircraft carrier.

Posted by: Vietam2 | March 9, 2011 6:08 PM | Report abuse

Don't these congressmen/congresswomen READ the bills before they are passed?....Oh wait....I forgot....Nancy Pelosi did say that you have to pass the bill before we know what's in it!!!

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That she did.

Someone else noted the more than 1000 waivers being given to the Obama supporters but failed to mention that now one entire state has been given a waiver. I don't remember the state but it was in the northeast.

Posted by: gfafblifr | March 9, 2011 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Michele Bachman or Sarah Palin....sorry representatives of the females in the Republican Party, some of which show intelligence......and the public still eats up this grandstand playing.....

See Vietam2 post dated March 9, 2011 at 6:08 p.m. I am in full agreement.....Who are the big spenders.....Newt could answer that if he wanted to be truthful for a change.

Posted by: Lonewillow | March 9, 2011 6:20 PM | Report abuse

There was a time when being a Conservative Republican was an honorable thing. Now, people like Bachman, organization like Newsmax are an embarrassment. But, like other digbats in the past, these people and organizations will sink into the ooze to join Joseph McCarthy and other nutjobs and soon no one will remember their names.

Posted by: jgmayne | March 9, 2011 6:30 PM | Report abuse

There was a time when being a Conservative Republican was an honorable thing. Now, people like Bachman, organization like Newsmax are an embarrassment. But, like other digbats in the past, these people and organizations will sink into the ooze to join Joseph McCarthy and other nutjobs and soon no one will remember their names.

Posted by: jgmayne | March 9, 2011 6:31 PM | Report abuse

How may of those how voted for the health care law knew what was in it? How many of those who voted on it and even those who support it knows what is in it today?
If it is so good why is the administration granting so many waivers mainly to those who support this administration? And now even a state has been granted a waiver.

As NP said we have to pass it to see what's in it. Do all of you who support this, think this in good policy and where was all this openness the dems said they would have?

Posted by: tateofpa | March 9, 2011 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Cornell1984 wrote "Where did the money go? How was it spent? No one seems to know, and the WaPo doesn't care."

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Cornell - you are an idiot! Did you read the article? Do you understand that the health care legislation has not even kicked in yet. Where did the money go? The money is not even there yet!!!!


As for Ms. Bachmann - the only thing she exceeds at is the frequency and wildness of her lies. The woman is a one person lie factory. A real credit to the GOP!!

Posted by: Freethotlib | March 9, 2011 6:45 PM | Report abuse

A teabagger telling lies.. Imagine that!

Posted by: reader011 | March 9, 2011 6:56 PM | Report abuse

I wish she would just sit down, shut up and color....

Posted by: mumsie58 | March 9, 2011 7:26 PM | Report abuse

The republicans will have a time with these tea party members of Congress, they lie without even thinking that what they are saying is so far from the truth, that republicans are shying away from them. Bachman has no business in her own kitchen let alone a member of congress, she;s a nut job everyone can see it especially Repulicans, she;s like Hannity and beck and O'reily, they have one agend, lie cheat, denigrate and try thier best to humiliate our President, but who is staring to look like somethin out of a loony bin, Obama or Bachman, her bid for the Presidency would be worst that Sarah Palins bid for the VP, these people have nothing to say other than racist rants and insane theories, go away Bachman, don't forget to take your pills

Posted by: romacc1 | March 9, 2011 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Obviously Ms. Bachmann is a disturbed person. Some people just love to be in front a television camera....it's kinda like being a movie star which most likely Ms. Bachmann aspired to and failed. She is only able to remember a few lines on NBC Meet The Press because she has no knowledge of a question asked of her. Like a robot, she just repeats the same non sensical answers.
I can't figure out how she got elected? Her eyes tell all....she nuts!

Posted by: Rlupodimare | March 9, 2011 8:37 PM | Report abuse

She's just bad for conservatism as she confirms the myth that they r rubes

Posted by: Chops2 | March 9, 2011 8:45 PM | Report abuse

If there is a God, I would like to thank him or her that I am not married to Michele Bachmann! Amen!

Posted by: Rlupodimare | March 9, 2011 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Fox broke the story about Palin opening a headquarters in Scottsdale Arizona after the Governor Jan Brewer's trip to Alaska for a Vacation.
The Arizona legislature just introduced the T E A don't tred on me License plate.

Looks like the Obama corridor has a lot of patriotic citizen guards moving there to defend the USA.

Who cares that the Feds pretend they have money no one is paying in taxes?
They are voiding any chance of coming back.

Posted by: dottydo | March 9, 2011 10:34 PM | Report abuse

More right wing BS. When you give away $800Billion to 400 people, what is $105Billion for the nation?

Posted by: ronjeske | March 9, 2011 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Fox broke the story about Palin opening a headquarters in Scottsdale Arizona after the Governor Jan Brewer's trip to Alaska for a Vacation.
The Arizona legislature just introduced the T E A don't tred on me License plate.

Looks like the Obama corridor has a lot of patriotic citizen guards moving there to defend the USA.

Who cares that the Feds pretend they have money no one is paying in taxes?
They are voiding any chance of coming back.

Posted by: dottydo | March 9, 2011 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Cornell, I think you should ask for your money back from your alma mater. You didn't have to search the Post, just this article. The figure refers to ten years' worth of spending that was clearly outlined in the legislation.

I do think it's likely that Bachman is better educated than you are, but on all other points, I'd withhold judgment.

Posted by: thmas | March 9, 2011 10:55 PM | Report abuse

It is a stretch of any ones imagination to think that any monies could be overlooked in the budget after the OMB had gone through it, along with a 100 lawyers. Just because Bachmann may be intellectually challenged and that of her staff (after all birds of a feather) does not make it true. If she is the hope of the Republican party, then say goodbye!

Posted by: GinArnold1 | March 9, 2011 11:06 PM | Report abuse

"We have noted there are issues with how that deficit figure was reached, but it is disingenuous of Bachmann to talk only about the costs without noting that, in theory, all of this spending is fully funded."

All of this spending is fully funded? Like double counting 500 billion in Medicare cuts?

"There is a further problem with Bachman's charge of "hidden" spending. The CRS report refers repeatedly to the many announcements made by the Department of Health and Human Services in recent months that it had spent some of the money authorized by Congress. In other words, the administration has not tried to hide this money at all; instead, it has trumpeted each dollar spent in a press release."

The CRS found the 105 billion in the 2700 pages of Obamacare. Nice try Mr. Kessler to spin that fact.


"As for the claim that "this money was broken up, hidden in various parts of the bill," we think she means that there were different sections in the legislation, depending on the issue. This is common practice for virtually all major bills, and it is not unusual or nefarious at all."

This is common practice for virually ALL major bills? Name one other major bill Mr. Kessler that represents 1/6 of the U.S. economy?

Mr. Kessler is not a FACT CHECKER. He is a SPIN DOCTOR and is very effective at it from my reading of the many comments herein.


Posted by: Chuck8764 | March 9, 2011 11:12 PM | Report abuse

So you don't like this Fact Checker. Try a different site:

http://factcheck.org/2011/03/no-secret-bachmann-gets-it-wrong/

Posted by: KevinBracken | March 9, 2011 11:59 PM | Report abuse

If a gerbil had Michele Bachmann's brain, it would still be a gerbil. The only other logical explanation for the whoppers that she manufactures whenever she feels that she needs attention is that she intentionally lies---but we all know, don't we, that she is an honorable woman who would not intentionally lie?

Posted by: marcb1 | March 10, 2011 12:31 AM | Report abuse

People remember this is the Washington Post. Because the lips of their so called journalist are stuck to the butt of Obama, you will never get the truth if it makes their guy look bad.

Posted by: theBozyn | March 10, 2011 8:34 AM | Report abuse

As usual, when liberals can't support their arguments with facts, they attack the messenger. When the messenger is a conservative woman they attack with misogynist comments. For the left, Michelle Bachmann is the new Sarah Palin. Imagine the fury if a liberal woman were treated this way, except in the case of Obama, who treated Hilary Clinton like dirt during the campaign.

Posted by: ThisJustIn | March 10, 2011 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Hooray for Michelle Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Sarah, Huckabee, Pawlenty, and Others that will make the republican primary contest entertaining and laughable.

Posted by: rxmollins | March 10, 2011 9:29 AM | Report abuse

Her tactics and made up stories are not new, she keeps getting re-elected in spite of them, so you should blame a bunch of Minnesotans. Maybe it's a 600,000 person slice of lying and deceit in Minnesota.

Posted by: Michael2255 | March 10, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I can't take credit for this statement and don't know the author, but find it amazingly accurate.

"Remember, it doesn't have to make sense. It doesn't have to be true. It doesn't even have to be persuasive. It just has to be repeated, endorsed by conservative media, embraced by right-wing activists whose ignorance is easily exploited, and folded into the "debate" for the American mainstream."

People need to stop being so gullible and believing what is said without any facts. It is your responsibility to be informed and, if you're not, you shouldn't be allowed to vote. The downfall of this country is going to be the gullible, low information voter.

Posted by: Coffeelady1 | March 10, 2011 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Nothing was hidden in Obamacare when it was passed all was there to see. EXCEPT as Pelosi stated, We won't know what is in it until we pass it!
Talk about liberal SPIN. LOL

Posted by: StephenWV | March 11, 2011 6:14 AM | Report abuse

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