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Don't Buy A Mac Laptop*

* Before the 14th.

Yesterday afternoon, Apple managed to surprise and not surprise observers at the same time. It shocked just about nobody by announcing that, yes, it would have the new product announcement that the rumor mill had expected in the middle of this month. But in the e-mail sent inviting reporters to a press event at its headquarters, the company didn't just confirm the timing but also most of the substance of that gossip with this headline: "The spotlight turns to notebooks."

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This company usually is a little more coy with its announcements, sometimes to the point of annoyance. But this time, it's given the clearest possible signal of an update to specific products, the MacBook and the MacBook Pro. (Not that the news still doesn't leave room for plenty of speculation; witness, for instance, this summary at the AppleInsider site.)

So I can now state one thing without a doubt: You'd make a huge mistake to buy an Apple laptop until the news comes out on Tuesday and, presumably, employees at Apple stores will get a go-ahead from Cupertino to open the mysterious boxes that just arrived in the back room.

By Rob Pegoraro  |  October 10, 2008; 11:00 AM ET
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Comments

i can't wait for these to come out.
i'm only 13 but i plan to get one as a joint birthday and christmas present.

nobody can understand how excited i am!

Posted by: adam codrington | October 10, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

WHAT EVER

Posted by: chuchu | October 10, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Um, son, your not getting this laptop, we cant afford it cause your dad lost his job due to the economy crashing and we must now sell you for slave labor, sorry.

Posted by: YOUR MOM | October 10, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Misleading headline - bad journalism

Posted by: Poster | October 10, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Will Apple take mortgage-backed derivatives as a swap for a new whatzit?

Posted by: egc52556 | October 10, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

who needs a labtop a thirteen???

Posted by: aa | October 10, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I just wanted to say that "Your Mom" is hilarious! Thanks for the LOL

Posted by: Jimbo | October 10, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I'm a PC.

Posted by: Kenya | October 10, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Lame...just a computer.

Posted by: Underwhelmed | October 10, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Stupid article, Dumb writing

Posted by: God | October 10, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

I remember the 386 coming out. No more single tasking 2 meg memory 286 for me ! I was pretty excited (and 13).

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Love my iMac, Macbook Pro, iPod and iPod Touch.

Keep innovating Apple!

The days of infected Microsoft software are over for me.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Yawn!

Posted by: Arun | October 10, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Thanks...

but I'm a PC.

Posted by: Bill | October 10, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Beware | October 10, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Yes, my little tech freak...you don't need to explain anything. There are many of us like you...

Posted by: illa | October 10, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Actually maybe you can work in the Asian factory where it'll be built until your Dad get a job

Posted by: customdelux | October 10, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

what a bunch of whiners.

Posted by: flnd | October 10, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

boring

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

one word bill gates

Posted by: mj38 | October 10, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

When I was 13, we had a 6502C 8-bit processor running at less than 2MHz, 64Kb maximum addressable RAM and we liked it! That said, my G4 PowerBook needs replacement soon--perhaps I can get a bailout to cover the cost?

Posted by: RGraham | October 10, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

if your 13 you should be worried about getting a bike you greedy punk you dont need a $3000 computer

Posted by: BigDick Johnson | October 10, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

LOL ... I second that "Your Mom" should be writing for the Washington Post. How did the editor allow such a misleading story headline? Don't they teach integrity to reporters anymore?

Posted by: Tattoo-Monkey | October 10, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Not bad journalism at all... in fact, good journalism to put the asterisk at the beginning. If I were interested in Mac laptops I would be very thankful that this was written.

Posted by: DMT | October 10, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

OJ needs a laptop in Nevada now

Posted by: Don | October 10, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm a PC and have the opportunity to do more unlike Apple which locks you in. And as far as this 13 yr. old... get a real computer, and a job, and help with the bailout, and your parents mortgage, and doctor bill's... and... well you get the point.

Posted by: lokenall | October 10, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

Apple is the new Microsoft....

RedSox are the new Yankees....

But you Apple-Ites are still the same old sheep. You will do and buy anything Apple comes up with. Trade in your old ipod for a smaller one...Buy new ipods when they break every year! Lick Steve Job's butt...as if he is some how the underdog. UGH!

Posted by: I am sick of this... | October 10, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

this is exactly why we're going to go into depression. More people who dont have the money are going to buy this thing even if they don't need it b/c theirs is now "obsolete"

Posted by: fudole | October 10, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm a PC, but I use a Mac.

Posted by: PC | October 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Son, you are not getting that laptop just because you want to be cool.

Posted by: Jandler | October 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

How can anyone state "I'm gonna get this" before they know for certain what "this" is exactly?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm a PC ON a Mac! (Thank You, VMWARE!)

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I'm a PC too

Posted by: Vzx | October 10, 2008 11:49 AM | Report abuse

This article and author clearly show the failure of American educational system.

Posted by: dan | October 10, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Hey guys - give the kid a break. He's technologically minded and excited to get on the forefront like many of us. Good for him! Glad that his parents are willing to invest in technology for him!

13 year old guy - Many of us understand how excited you are, cuz we are too! :)

Good luck with the gift and learning to use it. Happy birthday and Merry Christmas dude!

Posted by: Jeff from West Michigan | October 10, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

When I was 13, we played whiffleball and I hit over 200 homeruns that summer, a record that still stands.

Posted by: vicstone | October 10, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Bad journalism?

Not hardly!

The headline is followed by an asterisk. Follow to the next asterisk and it says "until the 14th."

This is very clever. It is NOT misleading and it got everyone to not only notice... but to read what it was about.

I missed the "until the 14th" part... but knew the asterisk was there. I read the entire article waiting for them to tell me not to buy it and why.

Then I realized I missed the by-line. MY FAULT! Had I seen it... I most likely wouldn't have read the article.

This was clever, and I was fooled. Kudos to this writer.

I agree... a laptop is not a toy and a 13 year-old shouldn't be given one. Most adults can't even handle one.

I have no problem with kids having them... but let them work for, save and spend their own money on them so that they will take care of them a little more responsibly.

Posted by: Boo Mac | October 10, 2008 11:51 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Let's set the cynicism aside for a second and take the kid at face value. He's only 13! And from what I read here is the only one acting his age.

What a display of pathetic shame coming from a bunch of 'adults'.

I hope you get your present, Adam, and really enjoy it.

Posted by: Gerald | October 10, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I don't like any MAC without cheese - this article will do

Posted by: Frank | October 10, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Reckless yellow journalism at its worst. What a headline "Don't Buy a Mac Laptop"

The intent is to make people go read his article. But he knows darn well that many won't. They will just see the headline on their web page and come away with a negative opinion that is completely misleading.

What a jerk this Rob Pegoraro is. Grow up and learn how to practice responsible journalism.

As for the excited 13 year old --- when I was 15, I saved my pennies and I bought a Radio Shack TRS-80 for $600. That was a FORTUNE. So yes, a kid CAN do this. You don't know the circumstances. My son got a computer, for which he paid half and we paid half, last Christmas.

This kid is getting it as a joint birthday and Christmas present.

You guys know nothing about him, yet you call him a "greedy punk" among other things. Good luck to you. I submit that accusations and name calling without knowing anything make YOU the greedy punks.

Posted by: Max | October 10, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

I'm a penguin. I hope you like your lap top.
There were no lap tops when I was thirteen. We had to play footbaLL and stuff like that. We also did a lot of shooting down at the river.

Posted by: Mr. Ubuntu | October 10, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

I'm a PC in a Mac's body...

Posted by: Confused | October 10, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Right on whiffle ball! +5

Posted by: sphynx | October 10, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Kudos to the 13-year-old. He's going to master the technologies that will allow him to get a high-paying, rewarding job in whatever future economy comes his way.

Boo to those ragging on him. Got nothing better to do than dogpile a kid with ambition?

(Besides... these are likely to start at $800. Not much more than the cost of a decent bike.)

Posted by: room34 | October 10, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Oh my goodness, the headline clearly has an asterisk AND a subtitle that immediately clarifies. No halfway intelligent person would just read the headline and not think there wasn't more to it (much less actually obey it...!).

Bad journalism, huh? And this accusation comes from what background? Don't open your mouth unless you actually know what you're talking about.

Posted by: cbr | October 10, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

my pension and 401K are crushed and this McLiar guy is making up lies about some old hippy radical?!?

time for the old man to retire to one of his 13 houses...

Posted by: J. Sidney McFascist | October 10, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Can it help me secure my email account?

Posted by: Sarah Palin | October 10, 2008 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Folks - calm down already. The kid is excited about getting something new, a *GIFT* for his birthday/for Christmas. Don't you remember what it felt like getting something new on your birthday?

For the critics out there who are bashing his spending habits (or those of his parents), you should chill. You have no idea if his parents can or can't afford the laptop, and if other articles are correct, it'll only* cost $899 (*I know $899 is still a large sum of cash, but if his parents can afford it, so what?).

For the critics out there who are questioning why a 13 year old needs a laptop, you should get some perspective. Plenty of young kids these days get involved with technology. Who knows...maybe the young poster will one day write applications that YOU will end up using? And before you say "well he should be outside playing sports, riding a bike, etc"...who's to say he doesn't ALREADY do that and this is just another tool to use for school?

Get a life people and stop bashing the kid.

Posted by: A Normal Guy | October 10, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

apple needs to bring prices down more,pc notebooks are much cheaper.i paid $600
that would have cost me $1200 as a mac
or more,apple sales will suffer,they will also have to bring a netbook out because every one wants a 2 pound computer,apple will ry to keep prices up but sales will keep falling

Posted by: dsa | October 10, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

You should put the Oct 14 part in parentheses as part of the headline. I spotted the "Don't buy a Mac laptop" headline in Google News without the asterisk reference, and it looks like the Washington Post is really recommending that people not buy Mac laptops.

Ian Lamont, The Industry Standard


Posted by: Ian Lamont | October 10, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

I bought my Macbook with my credit card and now I can't afford the payments. I am a Mac user.

Posted by: American Joe | October 10, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

really bad journalism. you should go back to school. bad title. in the wake of the abuse apple has endured this week with the false account of a rush to the hospital, this is really a cheap shot.

Posted by: k | October 10, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

What happen to the 100$ laptop program for kids, this must be Bush's "stimulus" package upping those laptops to 3000$ monsters.

Any way hope the kid gets it, I know I sure wanted my 2500.00$ 486 DX2 computer when I was 14, but that was when the dollar really meant something ( had to throw that in )

Posted by: what happened to "Every Kid with a Computer Program" | October 10, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm just a poor boy...nobody loves me...

Posted by: sweetypie | October 10, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Dear young 13, what will you do with your new MAC? Text and surf you-tube? When I was 13 I was locked in the basement with only a candle and some roaches to play with. I tied threads from my pajamas to their legs and watched them run and run when the hot wax dropped on their little bodies. It was fun but not as much as a new MAC laptop will be.

Posted by: Weenie | October 10, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Great Headline -- Boring content.

Posted by: THC | October 10, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm happy with my Asus EEE PC from Costco.com, $479 windows xp, 160gb hd, 1gb ram, wireless n, 6 cell battery, 2 years warranty, 90days return

Posted by: yoink | October 10, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Boy, do I miss my Commodore 64.

Posted by: Flashback | October 10, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Hey AA, whats a "labtop"?

Posted by: diz | October 10, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

1. Bad headline on this article;
2. I got an Apple ][e when I was 13 (there were no laptops back then);
3. Vista is a dog, linux still too hard, leaving Mac as the only route to go.

I'd be mad/sad if my 13 year old didn't want a laptop or a computer.

Posted by: Hasta la Vista | October 10, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I would wait till The Lord Obama is president. He will give everyone a new MAC laptop. So why buy?

Posted by: Mr. Welfare | October 10, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I know, PC isn't good. Stay far away from it! That is why PC is the most compatible, non-proprietary, most widely used, and costs so much less than Apple products. The only thing I have against Apple, is the brain-washed people that are stupid enough to push it on others, because they actually believe MAC isn't susceptible to vulnerabilities. Think again!

Posted by: Jesse | October 10, 2008 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of their announcement, there is still a lot of competition from cheaper PC's as well as netbooks

Posted by: Robert J Loomis III | October 10, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Um...laptops, given the right supervision, are fantastic educational tools. DCPS is working to achieve a 1:1 student to computer ration soon, and for good reason. Clearly, it's up to the parents to make sure their kids aren't spending 10 hours a day playing War Craft. All kids today must have computer literacy to be competitive in the global market, so why not start early with responsible computing? The old folks' nostalgia/elitism is cute, but there's got to be a balance. I didn't get a computer until very late in life, and internet came years after that. Guess what? There was still TV, which on its own can do plenty of damage if kids are allowed unlimited access. I wish I had more *structured* time at the keyboard so that my skills were more developed than they are now, but my parents had just didn't know enough back then to make the most of it. Its up to parents to police it, bottom line.

Posted by: ric | October 10, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

The 286 could multitask - you just didn't use it.

Posted by: Don | October 10, 2008 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Well, as the display just failed on my MacBook Pro THIS MORNING, this announcement is timely.

Posted by: kate mckinnon | October 10, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm PC.

Posted by: vic | October 10, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

NO MAC FOR YOU! ONE YEAR!

signed, the iNazi

Posted by: fred | October 10, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC too.

Posted by: Dave | October 10, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

that totally made me kill some time, thank you everyone for contributing to this thread

Posted by: dg | October 10, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey, I'm a Acer Aspire One Netbook with Linux.....how bout that!

Posted by: Fallout330 | October 10, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised that children read the Washington Post. I'm not talking about the 13 year old who posted that he was getting a Mac for Christmas, I'm talking about all the inane posts from everyone else. I've seen more constructive discussions on Youtube comments.

Posted by: Shocking | October 10, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Apple is on the way out. The writing is on the wall.. the Blackberry Storm will kill what's left of the iPhone.

The title is correct sort of.. "Don't buy a Mac"

The only good thing about having one is your the only one in the software isle at bestbuy.. LMMFAO

Posted by: exapplefanboy | October 10, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

waz up

Posted by: wyatt | October 10, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

HAHA!! Remembering old times... When I was 13, I got the original Gameboy. Funny how after like 15 years, it still works and I play it from time to time AND it's still addicting to play Tetris. 15 years from now, let me know if that new Macbook will even power on...

Posted by: YoungJolar | October 10, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Mac Users = Smug

PC > MAC

Posted by: Feflicker | October 10, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC

Posted by: Tom Herman | October 10, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

find: Phil Gramm, is that you?

Posted by: rk | October 10, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm a mac.

I like the present plastic MacBooks because the wireless reception is much better than the aluminum or Ti ones.

For all you PCs...my mac along with all the intel macs can run windows in BootCamp without emulation. Nice. Best thing would be to never, ever access the web/internet, email, etc. while in PC mode...then you'll be safe from PC viruses.

Posted by: macface | October 10, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

I remember my first mac.. all 3 days of it.. took it back and traded it for a PC. Never have regretted that decision.

Here's what is going to happen.. sells will drop.. they'll raise prices and only the super users will use them.. graphic artists.. etc.

Posted by: no1uwannaknow | October 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

My son wants an AK47 for Christmas.

Posted by: Double Stack | October 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Why pick on the kid's age? Adults should nurture strengths in their children. My son is a techno geek and at age 12 was accepted at college to do an adult part-time post-school computer diploma - he passed with an 82% aggregate, beating most of his adult fellow students.

Posted by: Jenni | October 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

"a laptop is not a toy and a 13 year-old shouldn't be given one. Most adults can't even handle one."

Give me a break! My 13 year old has a macbook (a joint birthday and christmas gift too) but our agreement was that she also paid 1/2 of it! It is not a "toy" - she takes great care of it.

she not only knows how to use it better than her mother, she's been very creative with it - making movies as well as dabbling in stop motion movies.

also, because it is a mac, i have the ability to closely monitor what she does with it (out of the box, i can screen share with her - watching her remotely from my mac - something i highly advise for all parents!). She is very happy to have me watching out for her (we'll see if she says the same thing when she's 16 heehee) - she wants me to make sure she's "safe"

The adults here aren't showing much respect for each other much less the children of today.

Posted by: planetMitch | October 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC!!

Posted by: pcuser | October 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Don't discourage the youngster. They know more at that age than we give them credit for it. Go kid!

Posted by: Take it easy | October 10, 2008 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey kid, happy birthday. I bought an Apple //c when I was 13 and it still works! Yes, *I* bought it with money I earned (newspaper delivery route, cutting lawns, raking leaves, shoveling snow).

The rest of you haters, get a life.

Posted by: Old School | October 10, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

...brimming with orgasmic joy over the news... Mac; the Apple of my eye...

Posted by: torkstone | October 10, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Do not buy a new laptop if you cannot afford it. With the economic situation right now who needs a new laptop. If your old one is working fine, then wait for the end of 2009.
No Hurry.

Posted by: Omidal | October 10, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC an run everything I need and been virus free for years :)

Posted by: Joe | October 10, 2008 12:10 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if it would compete with any of the netbooks.

http://www.jaiderbertoli.com/

Posted by: jaider bertoli | October 10, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

I would never go back to a pc, they are peices of crap! I am a PC. hehe!! Most people on these messages are retarded just like PC's are. MAC is the only way to go..good luck running all those spyware programs on your PC.

Posted by: MACPROFESSOR | October 10, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Apple products are way overpriced and you suckers are buying. Of course I uderstand that there a dummy machine that makes sure everything is in order and takes all control out of your hands. So if you don't want to learn anything about computers then go ahead waste your money on rotten apples. Remember most people buy because of marketing not because a product is superior. It only seems superior due to marketing. Some examples are bose, aol, samsung televisions, and yes sad to say but anything apple.

Posted by: PC | October 10, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

Quote: nobody can understand how excited i am!

Typical teenage statement; nobody understands.

Honey, I'm 68 and you can't be any more excited about the prospect of your new laptop than I was when I got my new 300 GB iMac complete with Leopard OS last month, with a beautiful iPod Touch thrown in for good measure. This is my third Mac (got my first one in 1991) and my third iPod (I have a white iPod Video, a red iPod Nano, and now the black iPod Touch). I never leave home without one of them in my pocket. Each and every one of these has excited me beyond measure.

Enjoy your new laptop and, welcome to the club of millions of excited MacUsers around the world who know exactly how you feel.

Posted by: Kathleen | October 10, 2008 12:11 PM | Report abuse

No, here's what is HAPPENING NOW!!

More ppl wanna run windows, so mac changes it's guts to run windows better... GEEEE other PC makers been doing that for decades... too late to catch up now mac.. lay down, your done!

Posted by: Idontwannaknowu | October 10, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Wow! I gotta get me one of these new iLaptops so I can rip off more ideas... and make BILLIONS.

I want a MacBook for my birthday...

William Gates

Posted by: Bill Gates | October 10, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I remember how "excited" I was to get a cassette recorder for my TRS-80 Model 1, so I could save all those BASIC programs I typed in, instead of losing them when I turned the damn thing off.

Good luck kid, I hope you get your "Official Red Ryder Carbine-action 200-shot Range Model BB rifle." (aka MACtop)

Posted by: NetGear | October 10, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I bought an old iPod 60GB - *very* expensive at the time! It broke shortly after the warranty expired - great paperweight now.

The girlfriend bought a Mac laptop - again, very expensive markups on the hardware. It also broke, also just after the warranty expired - Apple wants 3/4 of the purchase price to repair it.

A good friend bought an iPhone - guess what? It broke right after the warranty expired.

I will never understand why people get so excited to pay 400% markups on a cheap Chinese-made piece of hardware, just because it has pretty plastic around it and nifty controls.

Wake up people you can get a computer or media player that's more capable than any Apple product for a fraction of the price!

Posted by: matt | October 10, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Apple has probably cut the supply of the previous models so the don't buy may not be needed. Unless you buy from one of the sellers who isn't Apple.

Why knock the kid. Has everyone become an old disallusioned grump like me? If so, go to your room and shut up! Let the kid enjoy life like you used to enjoy life.

Computers used to be fun as we figured out what we could do with them and pushed the edge a bit. Now just a bunch of third rate grumps trying to impress themselves with their attitudes...

Well, said Jack. You really impressed me!

Posted by: Jack Rodgers | October 10, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Hey Rob;

No wonder Apple is "annoyingly coy" with its product announcements. They don't want some bozo reporter to torpedo their sales with headlines like this. Thanks to you, I'm sure they'll be even more evasive in the future, leaving *all* of us in the dark.

Posted by: Bill T | October 10, 2008 12:12 PM | Report abuse

@ YoungJolar: Couldn't be more right!! I like gameboy and even today mine works too

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Yeah.. and wait till christmas comes around and everyone gets presents and he doesnt...

Im sure he will whine like the little turd he is

Posted by: Franky | October 10, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I bought MY first mac with cash that I saved. I saved by not wasting money on other things. 3 years later, I'm still using it and still loving it.

Posted by: solvent | October 10, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

How are the Red Sox the new Yankees? The Red Sox team salary has gone down in the past few years. They are winning on homegrown talent, not with hired mercenaries. And Pedroia is awesome at wiffle ball.

Windows PCs have Mac envy. If your OS is not built on Unix, you're a sucker. John Hodgman is cooler than any PC.

I can't wait for these lappies to come out so I can buy an old one that is newly obsolete and hence cheaper.

Posted by: spluh? | October 10, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13 I was rockin' a Commodore 64 with 300bps modem. Which is way more 1337 than this worthless article.

Posted by: S_T_R_A_N_G_U_S | October 10, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

"..Enjoy your new laptop and, welcome to the club of millions... "

uhhh millions?? I don't think so.

Posted by: somenut | October 10, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I want that 13 year old boy and his new macbook for MY birthday... mmmmmm

Posted by: Krunch | October 10, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Don't buy a 'Mac' ANYTHING. It's a bunch of overpriced proprietary garbage, for people who have more money than brains...

Posted by: John Galt | October 10, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Dangit! I just bought a Macbook Pro like 4 months ago..

Posted by: Andrew | October 10, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

The headline is a cheap shot!
although it got me this time,
I'll remember not to read this 'funny'
guy again.

Posted by: Manuel | October 10, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

I'm a human. Mac rules, PCs drool- I know- I suffered with a personal PC and it sucked the bi one and I've had personal Macs ever since. Every work PC I've ever owned has sucked the big one, as well. The kid is helping the country and stemming the financial crisis buy buying from an American (Hardly anything is totally made in America anymore, ie. Ford, etc). Asterisk was responsible, stop yer whining. All of the Mac products I've owned and will continue to own as long as I have a shirt on my back will serve me well, and in fact much more satisfactorily than any PC product I've ever own ed or had the misfortune to use. If you can say you're "a PC," that's shame. Macs run better, faster and more stable- personal experience and reports from other Mac owners I know- even Mac converts! Unfortunately, most PC owners will never know the satisfaction of owning a Mac, just like most American car owners will never know the satisfaction of owning a foreign car (PS- Most foreign cars are now built in American plants!!!)

Posted by: Human | October 10, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

To the 13 year old. You have a great positive attitude. Don't listen to these negative Nancys. You will find in life that it is full of those who will find you strange for liking Mac or Apple... I will let you in a a little secret. Buy some stock sit on it and sell it when it gets ripe. I did, and make a killing everytime. All I use are Macs. Oh, you will also find, Mac users are happier, kinder, more apt to share their computer skills than most PC users. So rock on and pay no attention to the clowns...

Posted by: Dennis | October 10, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Hey, yo, "sick of this," get your head out of wherever it is. I bought my first Mac in 1986, used it until 1993 and then gave it away- it's still in use as a word processor. Bought my second Mac 1993, used it until 1998. Bought my third Mac in 1998, still use it. Bought my fourth Mac, an iBook, in 2005. Not buying a new one for a few more years, 'cuz this one works great. I've never bought an iPod and don't plan to because MP3s sound terrible. I don't need all the malarkey that an iPhone (or any other smart phone) does. So, basically, Apple sells me a Mac every 5.5 years on average... while my PC using friends buy one every two years. Who's licking whose what, now?

Posted by: Cunamara | October 10, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Transgenger PC/MAC!!!

Posted by: Help | October 10, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

I should have wrote this on a pc, I dont know what i am thinking about, I secretly own a MacBook at home, should have wrote this article on that, it would have made sense..Sorry about that!

Posted by: Rob Pegoraro | October 10, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

The proper term is actually, "BiOS."

Posted by: NetGear | October 10, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I will stick with my dual booting XP / OS X Hackitosh. Best of both worlds for under $1000...

Posted by: Hackintosh | October 10, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

The Mac is also a PC.

Posted by: Javier | October 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I am an overpriced Mac that you can't have yet. Set up a tent and wait outside the store like a good 13 YO boy.

Posted by: Babs | October 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

wtf is with dump PC users saying "I'm a PC"
The point of the Apple ads was that the two people represent COMPUTERS. They are a PC and a Mac, NOT a PC-user and a Mac-user.

Clearly, MS missed the whole point of the ad in their response, and many of their users are obviously just as stupid as they are.

Posted by: meelash | October 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Hey, guys? Microsoft and Mac advertisements notwithstanding, a Mac IS a PC (i.e., a Personal Computer). So when you regurgitate corporate advertising (e.g., "I'm a PC"), you're literally clarifying nothing about the computer you use.

BTW, I'm a Mac AND a Windows PC user. Imagine that.

Posted by: Jack | October 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

Apple sucks. After 14 months my new Mac's motherboard crashed and cost more than a new PC to replace it. Never Apple again!

Posted by: Chris | October 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

All the "I'm a PC" comments show the effectiveness of Microsoft's latest ad campaign. After bombing with the Jerry Seinfeld commercial, I'm surprised to hear people use the "I'm a PC" slogan.

I 'm a Unix (or is that Eunuchs?).

Posted by: John | October 10, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

It's so funny how mac users WANT EVERYONE to use a Mac... as soon as the virus start affecting Macs (which they will with more ppl using them) .. they'll be the first one's saying.. why can't it be like old times, when it was like a little club of people??..

crybabies, the lot of ya... macs are a dying breed.. read the writing on the wall.
or just check out the new Blackberry Storm.. They are already calling it the iPhone killer.. cheaper, more features.

Posted by: PositiveNancy | October 10, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I can't believe with the economy so bad this article was published.

No one should be buying a new anything from Apple. (Unless of course you are using bailout money to do so. ;) AIG)

Also does the memory of the readers fail to remember the Apple 5400 Laptop and it's great release....er....recall.

Give Apple time to stew in the laptop for a year then race out to get one when the economy forces it to be ...let's say ....affordable!

Posted by: Jason K. | October 10, 2008 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jenni,

Anyone with the common sense of kelp would NEVER put a 12 year old within a mile of college kids. Jesus, can you remember the stupid crap you did when you were 12 just to fit in with other 12 year olds? What is going to happen to a 12 year old trying to fit in at a fraternity party? 2 words for you: KEG STANDS (neverending keg stands to be more precise - cause the kid only weighs like 40 lbs so even the chicks can hold his ankles)

Good luck with that, have fun in juvenile court.

Posted by: Mr. Realism | October 10, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

I am a PC. I am not an idiot who put pirated vista on an old machine and started complaining that vista is bad. I bought a new laptop that can actually run vista properly and am very very happy. no crashing and more stable than all the macs i have ever used. and guess what, i can play games that you can only dream of lolz. mcboys. answer that. now you will say that you can run windows using boot camp. now tell me this that since not everybody is a moron like you, why would anybody buy a $2000 machine to do something that a $500 machine can do better.....
peace

Posted by: PC | October 10, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Everyone keeps talking about their old computers which makes me wonder...does anyone remember the commodore 64? That was my first computer, and it rocked. Still has a website dedicated to it.

www.c64.com

Posted by: Old Geek | October 10, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm a penguin on a PC!

Posted by: Al | October 10, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I bought a Dell laptop for half the price of a mac w/ the same specs and with more warranty than the Mac offered. I've had no problem with my Laptop. It works prefectly fine and i couldnt be more happy with it for half the price of a Mac.

Posted by: mantid83 | October 10, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

i'm gnu linux

Posted by: ms elliott | October 10, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I love my Mac.. it quit working 6 months after I bought it, but the monitor still is bright enough to use as a night light.. It's great!! Wouldn't trade it for anything, I've always had macs so I'll stay with them F O R E V E R. I have to use regular PC's at work and everywhere else though. But, I still have my trusty nite light at home. Soon I'll give it to my 13 year old son as a xmas present. :)

Posted by: Loyal2dacore | October 10, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

-Pc/laptop
-built for a 3rd the price!
-same parts! less screws!
-To be a Machole or not to be? That is the question!

Posted by: rocketscience! | October 10, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

don't harass the 13 year old just because you are poor

Posted by: crymore | October 10, 2008 12:23 PM | Report abuse

I love my Mac.. it quit working 6 months after I bought it, but the monitor still is bright enough to use as a night light.. It's great!! Wouldn't trade it for anything, I've always had macs so I'll stay with them F O R E V E R. I have to use regular PC's at work and everywhere else though. But, I still have my trusty nite light at home. Soon I'll give it to my 13 year old son as a xmas present. :)

Posted by: Loyal2dacore | October 10, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

For students looking to buy a laptop for college:

Macbooks are getting more and more popular so, of course, all the incoming freshman pick them up. I work at a university laptop repair shop and Macbooks are the number one most common laptop we work on. They aren't compatible with most of the software used in math and science classes and they can be a pain for folks to figure out.

The most common fix for the Macbooks is to remote into a Windows server on campus so they actually do their homework. Or ship it back to get the faulty dvd drives and Ethernet ports swapped out.

Posted by: andersc7 | October 10, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

At 13, mine was a Vic 20, which I won by selling more calendars than anyone in the 8th grade. I didn't even have a way to save content. I would wright simple programs and then not let anyone turn off the power. I remember how excited I was when we finally purchased a tape deck to back things up and load commercial games, which took about 45 minutes. I saved for a year so I could own a Commodore 64. My external floppy drive came about six months later, at a hefty price. Times have changed, but it's nice to see 13 year old boys still feel the magic of new technology.

Posted by: Neil | October 10, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

Now more than ever we need to buy. I'm not contributing to the "crash."

Posted by: NetGear | October 10, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

i'm a huge clit

Posted by: blub | October 10, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

A laptop? President Palin will never allow that level of free thought you betcha. Laptops are dangerous, scary things that could allow individuals to think for themselves. Thinking might make you smart and smart is really, really bad! Surrender to the hive mind! Buy a big box PC from Chinamart - oops, I mean Walmart to prepare for your intellectual enslavement by Big Brother.

Posted by: randomizer | October 10, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

PCs are susceptible to viruses because they were not designed with connectivity in mind, not because more people use them. Linux users are smarter than either of the proprietary camps. People who can't afford Apple products instead satisfy themselves with sour grapes.

Posted by: Molly Ringwald | October 10, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

I will bet $5.2 Trillion in mortgage derivatives that this '13 year old' is a 28 year old marketing guy sitting in a cube in Cupertino monitoring press coverage and writing under 'Adam' in WaPo and 'Jenny' in WaTimes...

If I am right you can have Fannie Mae's bad loans, if I'm wrong you can have Freddie Mac's bad loans. (hey at least I didnt give you Wachovia's bad loans from Golden West!)

Posted by: Mike | October 10, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Awesome - I'd totally buy this if I didn't know how to use a computer. Hell maybe some of you will luck out and get one of these bad boys with a power supply that's already dead - Apple notebooks have a great track record for this.

Posted by: User | October 10, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Why when I was 13 we didn't have 'ny 'puters. All we had were matchboxes to play wit'. I drew them Apple logo on it an' call it an iMatchbook. An' we use to burn discs by lightin' them matchies on the side of the iMatchbook.

Younguns these days, ya tells 'em how hard it was an' they didn't believes ya.

Posted by: 93YearOld | October 10, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

Suck it wins the thread.

Posted by: PeriSoft | October 10, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

LMAO

Posted by: Santa | October 10, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

No laptops for you!

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama | October 10, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

There is nothing new here. Its a cheaper Apple notebook. I think the point is that Apple finally realized that the economy was in the dumps, and now the only way they are going to take up any more market share is to reduce their prices. Their laptops are priced out of the mainstream consumer market right now. If they want to take a bigger piece of the pie, they have to reduce prices...nuff said

Posted by: Jason | October 10, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

This whole article sux cox, I do not believe in the Apple product, I think
that it is overpriced and "rotten to
the core!"

F U C K Apple

Posted by: Ivan Daskleiben | October 10, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

What dribble from most posts! Childish and stupid. Get a life, please!!!

Posted by: Donald | October 10, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have a Eee PC, Dell Mini9, or HP MiniNote w/ Ubuntu.

Props to the original poster. I had an Amiga 500 when I was 13, stuck with computers, and now I'm a SysAdmin making a lot more than my friends at 24 :-D

Posted by: Mike | October 10, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

To the 13 year old guy, congratulations! I got my first Mac when I was 5. Though I am a PC now thanks to Microsoft having a monopoly in the business sector, I still would prefer a Mac anyday! Mac has always been better with graphics and audio as well as much better security. At least you won't be having random reboots from Windows crashing or doing a random security update, which for some reason a new update comes out almost once a week.

Posted by: QuitHating | October 10, 2008 12:29 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13-years old, I got an abacus.

Posted by: Old Dude | October 10, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

I bought a vista laptop for $500 and it runs everything perfectly. A similar Mac laptop would have cost $2000.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13 all we had were tubes to keep us warm. Love the glow!

Posted by: Al | October 10, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Man, does this country need a Hero. Coleman for President in 2012!!!!!

Seriously though, its just an article. For now, this is still a free Country, which I fought for and Love. Let the kid talk his parents into dropping 3 grand. I had to go outside and play at 13, and get home by the time the street lights came on. (All of us adults should remember that).

And I too want help from the bail out package so that I can buy a new PS3!

As someone far smarter than me once said "Good Luck, and Good Night"

Posted by: Coleman | October 10, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Yes dont harass the 13 yr old.Why should a 13 get a bike anyways? They should lay around become obese, maybe order some micdiks, or just become a rude as like "crymore"

God bless america!

Posted by: dreamer | October 10, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

My Mac book is awsome. Now things don't roll off my dinner table. It was just the right size to stick under the leg. No more salt packets for me!

Posted by: Larry Oregon | October 10, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

And the person who SPAMMED the whole page can suck my bleeding haemmorhoids!!!!

Posted by: Dick Lick | October 10, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Hey...all I had a 13 was an old 8088. It didn't even have a mouse, it didn't need one. I'm glad my parents sacrificed their hard-earned money and instead of taking us to Disney World like all my friends (actually didn't get to go there until I was 26) they bought us computers and made us learn how to use them. Today I'm a consultant for one of the world's largest IT consulting firms. I'd say it was a great investment. And I'm married to a software developer, except when he was 13, there was only the TRS-80.

Posted by: bayougirl | October 10, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC... ah crap! be right back I just crashed... again! :(
When? Tuesday? I'm now a Mac.

Posted by: Mike | October 10, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

You do know these laptop/notebook things will have horrible specs? Like a 1.6GHz Processor, 1GB RAM, and 80GB HDD... (http://mschat.net/forum/index.php?topic=536.0)

You might as well buy a full priced MacBook, or buy an awesome Vista PC for like $100-$200 less and you get like 2-4 times more...

Posted by: aldo | October 10, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

I'm really surprised at the comments from people saying a 13 year-old should have a laptop. Are you living in the '80's or just really narrow-minded and ignorant.

There are many reasons kids 13 and much younger should have computers. My son is now 9 and has been doing projects with me on computers since 1st grade. There are computers in all the class rooms. Papers, book reports, research, music (making music, not downloading), movies (again making), web pages, etc. are all done on computers by kids. They have web site design clubs starting in 3rd grade! They make their own web pages from scratch. Kids make their own movies on things like the bugs in their back-yards and edit and burn them to DVD. Book report projects like posters are made in page-layout programs on their computers. There are math games to help kids practice multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction. There are games that help develop logic and problem solving.

You think that this is scary. But I think it's scary that you (clearly) didn't know kids can do these things, which makes me wonder what you've been using your computers for all this time? Cynical remarks? Porn? YouTube? Grow-up and stop picking on the kid.

Posted by: Gerald | October 10, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Oops typo, second sentence their not there. By the way all PC's run better if you wipe them out and reload them immediately with a real copy of windows (not the disk they give you) or linux. Even Vista is awesome if you learn how to change some settings. The only thing that microsoft does wrong is to allow these manufactures to load their garbage versions of windows on the PC along all kinds of other crap. Which is the only reason why PC gets a bad reputation with the average person. If you get a PC and do the things I said you will be more than happy. Also, please whatever you do don't use Norton either because it's like a virus itself. The best for PC is NOD32 or for the free users HB AntiVir which can be found at www.free-av.com.

Posted by: PC | October 10, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, like we're going to wait for the economy to get better! No, Obama won't bail us out, while 'M' hides in his oval office. McSame? He wait for Joe L to tell him what to do.

Posted by: umm.huh | October 10, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

bleeding haemorrhoid are uncomfortable

Posted by: Itchy | October 10, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Bill, can I get a butt wiggle

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld | October 10, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I'm so excited about this I'm wacking off right now!

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!

Posted by: wow | October 10, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: poot | October 10, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

The economy doesn't affect me poor people, I live check to check, haha

Posted by: Joel | October 10, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Wow what a bunch of lame egotistical crap,
I think that 13 year old's should be able
to have a PC or a laptop or a crackpipe...

Posted by: Barack In Time | October 10, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I am not too sure if I understand that he means what he said that he thought that you meant to tell him to say, and if that is the case then you really need to be more specific when you say what you mean to whom you say what you mean to!!

Posted by: R. Crumb | October 10, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

macs make me want to hurt kittens, this article was very misleading.

Posted by: the dude | October 10, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Yeah the new I want it NOW kids. So sick of it. I hear people saying "So and so has this phone" "So and so has that iPod" .. none of them have a job either. They think its a status symbol. It's a symbol of ignorance.

Posted by: Strycker | October 10, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13 I spent all my time browsing porn and being an online hater. That was last year.

F*** you, World!

Posted by: Alfredo | October 10, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

i'm a PC

Posted by: bryan | October 10, 2008 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Boy, I never thought I would ever like spam. Until I read this article that is.

Posted by: Frohdo | October 10, 2008 12:47 PM | Report abuse

"The spotlight turns to notebooks..."

Starting at $1,099 (for a MacBook with a 13" screen)

Starting at $1,999 (for a MacBook Pro with a 15" screen)

Starting at $2,799 (for a MacBook Pro with a 17" screen)

The only thing the spotlight seems to be on is your ass so that Steve Jobs can insert the anal probe.

I'll take the 16.4" Sony Vaio notebook that I purchased for under $999 last month over a ridiculously priced MacBook.

Posted by: Leonardo DiCrapio | October 10, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

It burns when I pee....

Posted by: Patient | October 10, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

MACS RULE. THEY ARE WAY BETTER COMPUTERS THAN PCs. JUST LIKE OBAMA IS A WAY BETTER CHOCIE THAN MC LAME. OBAMANOS VOTE OBAMA AMERICA IT WILL BE GOOD FOR US.

Posted by: Raul Pedraza | October 10, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

there are so many PCs posting here, are they becoming self aware? where are the PC users?

Posted by: i'm a pc? | October 10, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious...glad I clicked on this stupid article. I got my first PC when I was 9 months old...you people need to recognize!

Posted by: LoriMar | October 10, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Gerald and Donald should get together and become lovers.

Alfredo, you do not know it yet, but you will be gay.

Mike is right!!

What is a "bleeding Haemmoroid?" is that the same as a hemmorhoid?


Posted by: Niggy Piggy | October 10, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13, the computer landscape was much more diverse and colorful than it is today. Apple was certainly around and had a big fan base, but so did Atari, Commodore, Texas Instruments, and several others - even Radio Shack (a.k.a. the Tandy TRS-80.) Too bad the market has become so polarized these days.

My first computer was an Atari 800XL. I still have it, complete with a 5.25-inch floppy drive, cassette tape drive, and its original box. There's a sticker on the front that proudly proclaims, "The Official Home Computer of the 1984 Olympics" and "NOW with 64k RAM - More Memory Means More Power!"

64k RAM? From Atari? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

More power to ya, kid. Hope you get that Mac laptop !

Posted by: thirtysomething | October 10, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

13-year-old, you get your computer and enjoy it.

Everyone complaining is envious that they or their parents cannot bring together a measly grand for some new hardware, most likely because they bought 3 houses within the past 5 years and thought TLC DIY flip shows would lead them to financial freedoms. They should spend less time complaining and more time working to keep and/or get a job.

Posted by: Joe Johnson | October 10, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Hilarious...glad I clicked on this stupid article. I got my first PC when I was 9 months old...you people need to recognize!

Posted by: LoriMar | October 10, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Palin - we knew already you were a jerk; to what extent is the real issue... Were you asleep at the switch like your uncle "W"?

By the way, with this economy the only lap top I need is from a dancer ;) It's only 20 bucks

Posted by: Al | October 10, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Oh good, something else people will rush out and buy....because Apple said so. Wake up people. You're all being controlled by markets and politics.

Posted by: NeoHippie | October 10, 2008 12:55 PM | Report abuse

This is brilliant, you are all re-enforcing every American stereotype available! Cheers for the buggering up the economy, when you get a passport come visit me in the rest of the world. And are you really, seriously gonna let that Alaskan bird with learning difficulties run your country? ha ha ha!!!

Posted by: English Guy | October 10, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13, the computer landscape was much more diverse and colorful than it is today. Apple was certainly around and had a big fan base, but so did Atari, Commodore, Texas Instruments, and several others - even Radio Shack (a.k.a. the Tandy TRS-80.) Too bad the market has become so polarized these days.

My first computer was an Atari 800XL. I still have it, complete with a 5.25-inch floppy drive, cassette tape drive, and its original box. There's a sticker on the front that proudly proclaims, "The Official Home Computer of the 1984 Olympics" and "NOW with 64k RAM - More Memory Means More Power!"

64k RAM? From Atari? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

More power to ya, kid. Hope you get that Mac laptop !

Posted by: thirtysomething | October 10, 2008 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Gerald and Donald should get together and become lovers.

Alfredo, you do not know it yet, but you will be gay.

Mike is right!!

What is a "bleeding Haemmoroid?" is that the same as a hemmorhoid?


Posted by: Niggy Piggy | October 10, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Poor mac fanboys. I know you can't get girls, but is this new poorly constructed gadget really going to fill that void in your life? If your worried about augmenting your self worth through technology, how about trying to build your own computer from scratch like us real men? Just a thought! Now go save money so you can by Steve some more black slacks and turtle necks.

Posted by: 13 Years | October 10, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Gah, it's taking all I have not to burst out into hysterics in my pink cubicle...

Posted by: LoriMar | October 10, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I hope these are more cost competitive laptops. Mac really needs to get something in the 5-600 range and given market conditions, they should be able to deliver a decent system with a good profit margin for that.

All you "PC"s here, I was just like you until I stopped playing games and started my own business. Keeping PCs healthy and humming along is a full time job and simply not worth the cost overhead. Viruses and exploits alone will kick your ass and no, throwing anti-virus software on there isn't a guarantee. Many recent viruses have walked right in, stomped all over the running anti-virus, and proceeded to wreak havoc on the system. Windows is far too bloated and buggy and there is no end of the bugginess in sight, when the most recent viruses take advantage of holes that exist in both XP and Vista, that tells you that Vista's alleged "security advantage" is a smoke screen.

Ever since Mac went to a Unix base, it has simply become the superior choice across the board. The power and security of Unix, with the UI of a Mac. And I get my command prompt too in the form of a terminal. As for lock in, not really. You have a wide range of Open Source apps to choose from, we've standardized on Open Office. It's true you can get good performance out of Linux, but Linux is simply not as easy to use as a Mac and when your goal is doing business, not spending hours tinkering with a computer to save a couple hundred dollars, that matters far more than anything else.

Not an apple fanboy here either. The only Apple products we've gotten so far are minis. They are cost effective, they work, and they free you from the Windows hell of viruses and malware. When Apple releases cost effective notebooks, we'll be jumping on those or waiting until the current generation of notebooks are available in the used market in good condition for a good price. Going forward, given the economic times, price is critical. If Apple recognizes this and recognizes that many of us are willing to pay 500 bucks for a laptop that isn't the latest and greatest, but is still a decent system, I think we will see a huge resurgance of apple in the work place. Certainly at my small business, a business that started as a *PC* consulting company, PCs are on the way out. We just see no benefit in continuing the overhead of labor and cost associated with keeping them clean and running properly.

Business should be about making money, not about keeping your business computers running. Macs, and not PCs, allow a far greater focus on the business of making money, whereas PCs will ensure you are always painfully aware of security and vulnerability issues and if you're not, you will learn about them the hard way.

Posted by: Benjamin | October 10, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Whats all the hype! Like the headline says just dont buy an Apple laptop - ever.

I once owned a Mercedes 400D I polished and waxed it and was so proud of it until the fuel injection pump went out. It then sat in my garage and then I finally just sold it as is.

Posted by: Macintrash | October 10, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13, the computer landscape was much more diverse and colorful than it is today. Apple was certainly around and had a big fan base, but so did Atari, Commodore, Texas Instruments, and several others - even Radio Shack (a.k.a. the Tandy TRS-80.) Too bad the market has become so polarized these days.

My first computer was an Atari 800XL. I still have it, complete with a 5.25-inch floppy drive, cassette tape drive, and its original box. There's a sticker on the front that proudly proclaims, "The Official Home Computer of the 1984 Olympics" and "NOW with 64k RAM - More Memory Means More Power!"

64k RAM? From Atari? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

More power to ya, kid. Hope you get that Mac laptop !

Posted by: thirtysomething | October 10, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Palin - we knew already you were a jerk; to what extent is the real issue... Were you asleep at the switch like your uncle "W"?

By the way, with this economy the only lap top I need is from a dancer ;) It's only 20 bucks

Posted by: Al | October 10, 2008 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Poor mac fanboys. I know you can't get girls, but is this new poorly constructed gadget really going to fill that void in your life? If your worried about augmenting your self worth through technology, how about trying to build your own computer from scratch like us real men? Just a thought! Now go save money so you can by Steve some more black slacks and turtle necks.

Posted by: 13 Years | October 10, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

wut

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

Poor mac fanboys. I know you can't get girls, but is this new poorly constructed gadget really going to fill that void in your life? If your worried about augmenting your self worth through technology, how about trying to build your own computer from scratch like us real men? Just a thought! Now go save money so you can by Steve some more black slacks and turtle necks.

Posted by: SomeGuy | October 10, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC.

The last time I tried to use a mac I found it incredibly non-intuitive and awkward to use, slow, and unresponsive. About 8 years ago I tried linux - and wasn't impressed.

I have Vista on my home desktop, work desktop, and laptop - and love it. When I *do* use XP (someone else's computer, etc) - I realize how much I take for granted with Vista and appreciate it that much moreso.

Posted by: PC | October 10, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Gah, it's taking all I have not to burst out into hysterics in my pink cubicle...

Posted by: LoriMar | October 10, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Gah, it's taking all I have not to burst out into hysterics in my pink cubicle...

Posted by: LoriMar | October 10, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

Way to monitor your website comments, Wash Post. Nice to know that I could cut and paste the Magna Carta here and you guys would post it.

BTW, are the morons who are repeatedly stating, "I'm a PC," employees of Microsoft or merely bowled over by the lame new Microsoft ads?

Posted by: Fred | October 10, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I am Raul Pedophile and I approve this message, I want to vote for a black man
because he may help my illegal ass stay
in this country...

BTW, what is a "CHOCIE"

Posted by: Raul Pedraza | October 10, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

I am Raul Pedophile and I approve this message, I want to vote for a black man
because he may help my illegal ass stay
in this country...

BTW, what is a "CHOCIE"

A CHOCIE must be short for CHOCOLATE or BLACK, as in "I will vote for the CHOCIE"

LOSER.........

Posted by: Raul Pedraza | October 10, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

As a 13 year old in the early 80s, the computer landscape I experienced was much more diverse and colorful than it is today. Apple was certainly around and had a big fan base, but so did Atari, Commodore, Texas Instruments, and several others - even Radio Shack (a.k.a. the Tandy TRS-80.) Too bad the market has become so polarized these days.

My first computer was an Atari 800XL. I still have it, complete with a 5.25-inch floppy drive, cassette tape drive, and its original box. There's a sticker on the front that proudly proclaims, "The Official Home Computer of the 1984 Olympics" and "NOW with 64k RAM - More Memory Means More Power!"

64k RAM? From Atari? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

More power to ya, kid. Hope you get that Mac laptop !

Posted by: thirtysomething | October 10, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Reading this article wasn't nearly as exciting at the comments...

And, why are people complaining about someone presupposing that the guy who said "don't buy a mac laptop" was bad journalism... He's just saying that something new and better is coming.

So don't buy it, seriously.

Because when it comes out? All of the prices will drop and you'll get your fancy MacBook Pro for cheaper, because you know the new one is going to help resolve the national debt.

Look at the iPhone! It has single handedly resolve world hunger.

Posted by: Blah | October 10, 2008 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Way to monitor your website comments, Wash Post. Nice to know that I could cut and paste the Magna Carta here and you guys would post it.

BTW, are the morons who are repeatedly stating, "I'm a PC," employees of Microsoft or merely bowled over by the lame new Microsoft ads?

Posted by: Fred | October 10, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

FYI people, a Mac IS a PC. For you youngins out there that don't know but PC stands for Personal Computer. And yes, I'm a WINDOWS user. ;) Just like to point out the flaw in Mac's advertising. Carry on.

Posted by: me | October 10, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

Palin - we knew already you were a jerk; to what extent is the real issue... Were you asleep at the switch like your uncle "W"?

By the way, with this economy the only lap top I need is from a dancer ;) It's only 20 bucks

Posted by: Al | October 10, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC.

The last time I tried to use a mac I found it incredibly non-intuitive and awkward to use, slow, and unresponsive. About 8 years ago I tried linux - and wasn't impressed.

I have Vista on my home desktop, work desktop, and laptop - and love it. When I *do* use XP (someone else's computer, etc) - I realize how much I take for granted with Vista and appreciate it that much moreso.

Posted by: PC | October 10, 2008 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I want to know if they will have an integrated video card. I just got a macbook last year when leopard first came out. The video card is crap in it.

Posted by: Angela | October 10, 2008 1:11 PM | Report abuse

I agree with "A Normal Guy". Geez people, get a life! How can you make all these assumptions about somebody you don't even konw?? And since most of you "obviously" haven't been in school in a while, 13 yr.olds NEED computers now to do most of their homework! At least my nephew sure does. Some of the assignments he gets just blow my mind. And just because you can't affort a computer doesn't mean everybody else can't either.

The people in the corner offices that created the bailout problem aren't spending any of their money on it, so why should I?

And would somebody please tell me why adults would be so insensitive and ignorant as to slam a 13 yr. old kid? When did THAT become ok?? Grow some manners.

Oh, by the way... I'm a MAC!!

Posted by: KRD | October 10, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

As a 13 year old in the early 80s, the computer landscape I experienced was much more diverse and colorful than it is today. Apple was certainly around and had a big fan base, but so did Atari, Commodore, Texas Instruments, and several others - even Radio Shack (a.k.a. the Tandy TRS-80.) Too bad the market has become so polarized these days.

My first computer was an Atari 800XL. I still have it, complete with a 5.25-inch floppy drive, cassette tape drive, and its original box. There's a sticker on the front that proudly proclaims, "The Official Home Computer of the 1984 Olympics" and "NOW with 64k RAM - More Memory Means More Power!"

64k RAM? From Atari? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

More power to ya, kid. Hope you get that Mac laptop !

Posted by: thirtysomething | October 10, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

FYI people, a Mac IS a PC. For you youngins out there that don't know but PC stands for Personal Computer. And yes, I'm a WINDOWS user. ;) Just like to point out the flaw in Mac's advertising. Carry on.

Posted by: me | October 10, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

I agree with "A Normal Guy". Geez people, get a life! How can you make all these assumptions about somebody you don't even konw?? And since most of you "obviously" haven't been in school in a while, 13 yr.olds NEED computers now to do most of their homework! At least my nephew sure does. Some of the assignments he gets just blow my mind. And just because you can't affort a computer doesn't mean everybody else can't either.

The people in the corner offices that created the bailout problem aren't spending any of their money on it, so why should I?

And would somebody please tell me why adults would be so insensitive and ignorant as to slam a 13 yr. old kid? When did THAT become ok?? Grow some manners.

Oh, by the way... I'm a MAC!!

Posted by: KRD | October 10, 2008 1:14 PM | Report abuse

Thank you for the article: I was about to order a MacBook Pro for our High School Theatre program. Now, I'll wait a couple days... almost as long as it took to scroll to the bottom of this page...

Posted by: Seanjay | October 10, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I agree with "A Normal Guy". Geez people, get a life! How can you make all these assumptions about somebody you don't even know?? And since most of you "obviously" haven't been in school in a while, 13 yr.olds NEED computers now to do most of their homework! At least my nephew sure does. Some of the assignments he gets just blow my mind. And just because you can't affort a computer doesn't mean everybody else can't either.

The people in the corner offices that created the bailout problem aren't spending any of their money on it, so why should I?

And would somebody please tell me why adults would be so insensitive and ignorant as to slam a 13 yr. old kid? When did THAT become ok?? Grow some manners.

Oh, by the way... I'm a MAC!!

Posted by: KRD | October 10, 2008 1:15 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC.

The last time I tried to use a mac I found it incredibly non-intuitive and awkward to use, slow, and unresponsive. About 8 years ago I tried linux - and wasn't impressed.

I have Vista on my home desktop, work desktop, and laptop - and love it. When I *do* use XP (someone else's computer, etc) - I realize how much I take for granted with Vista and appreciate it that much moreso.

Posted by: PC | October 10, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Palin - we knew already you were a jerk; to what extent is the real issue... Were you asleep at the switch like your uncle "W"?

By the way, with this economy the only lap top I need is from a dancer ;) It's only 20 bucks

Posted by: Al | October 10, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

As a 13 year old in the early 80s, the computer landscape I experienced was much more diverse and colorful than it is today. Apple was certainly around and had a big fan base, but so did Atari, Commodore, Texas Instruments, and several others - even Radio Shack (a.k.a. the Tandy TRS-80.) Too bad the market has become so polarized these days.

My first computer was an Atari 800XL. I still have it, complete with a 5.25-inch floppy drive, cassette tape drive, and its original box. There's a sticker on the front that proudly proclaims, "The Official Home Computer of the 1984 Olympics" and "NOW with 64k RAM - More Memory Means More Power!"

64k RAM? From Atari? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

More power to ya, kid. Hope you get that Mac laptop !

Posted by: thirtysomething | October 10, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

As a 13 year old in the early 80s, the computer landscape I experienced was much more diverse and colorful than it is today. Apple was certainly around and had a big fan base, but so did Atari, Commodore, Texas Instruments, and several others - even Radio Shack (a.k.a. the Tandy TRS-80.) Too bad the market has become so polarized these days.

My first computer was an Atari 800XL. I still have it, complete with a 5.25-inch floppy drive, cassette tape drive, and its original box. There's a sticker on the front that proudly proclaims, "The Official Home Computer of the 1984 Olympics" and "NOW with 64k RAM - More Memory Means More Power!"

64k RAM? From Atari? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

More power to ya, kid. Hope you get that Mac laptop !

Posted by: thirtysomething | October 10, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

I agree with "A Normal Guy". Geez people, get a life! How can you make all these assumptions about somebody you don't even know?? And since most of you "obviously" haven't been in school in a while, 13 yr.olds NEED computers now to do most of their homework! At least my nephew sure does. Some of the assignments he gets just blow my mind. And just because you can't affort a computer doesn't mean everybody else can't either.

The people in the corner offices that created the bailout problem aren't spending any of their money on it, so why should I?

And would somebody please tell me why adults would be so insensitive and ignorant as to slam a 13 yr. old kid? When did THAT become ok?? Grow some manners.

Oh, by the way... I'm a MAC!!

Posted by: KRD | October 10, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Palin - we knew already you were a jerk; to what extent is the real issue... Were you asleep at the switch like your uncle "W"?

By the way, with this economy the only lap top I need is from a dancer ;) It's only 20 bucks

Posted by: AL | October 10, 2008 1:20 PM | Report abuse

This isn't bad journalism, because it isn't journalism... it's an editorial blog entry. It expresses an opinon. And he isn't a journalist, he's a tech blogger. He's not reporting anything, since once again he's expressing opinion.

Essentially, the only difference between this and any blog entry is that it's on the post's website.

Posted by: beep | October 10, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Reading this article wasn't nearly as exciting at the comments...

And, why are people complaining about someone presupposing that the guy who said "don't buy a mac laptop" was bad journalism... He's just saying that something new and better is coming.

So don't buy it, seriously.

Because when it comes out? All of the prices will drop and you'll get your fancy MacBook Pro for cheaper, because you know the new one is going to help resolve the national debt.

Look at the iPhone! It has single handedly resolved world hunger.

Posted by: Blah | October 10, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

PC rules..............

Posted by: Nirav | October 10, 2008 1:26 PM | Report abuse

As a 13 year old in the early 80s, the computer landscape I experienced was much more diverse and colorful than it is today. Apple was certainly around and had a big fan base, but so did Atari, Commodore, Texas Instruments, and several others - even Radio Shack (a.k.a. the Tandy TRS-80.) Too bad the market has become so polarized these days.

My first computer was an Atari 800XL. I still have it, complete with a 5.25-inch floppy drive, cassette tape drive, and its original box. There's a sticker on the front that proudly proclaims, "The Official Home Computer of the 1984 Olympics" and "NOW with 64k RAM - More Memory Means More Power!"

64k RAM? From Atari? I thought I'd died and gone to heaven.

More power to ya, kid. Hope you get that Mac laptop !

Posted by: thirtysomething | October 10, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I am looking for "YOUR MOM". Can we meet and discuss your 13-old issues (Apple laptop, your husband need for money, etc.)?
I would be glad to help.

Posted by: MILF | October 10, 2008 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I agree with "A Normal Guy". Geez people, get a life! How can you make all these assumptions about somebody you don't even know?? And since most of you "obviously" haven't been in school in a while, 13 yr.olds NEED computers now to do most of their homework! At least my nephew sure does. Some of the assignments he gets just blow my mind. And just because you can't affort a computer doesn't mean everybody else can't either.

The people in the corner offices that created the bailout problem aren't spending any of their money on it, so why should I?

And would somebody please tell me why adults would be so insensitive and ignorant as to slam a 13 yr. old kid? When did THAT become ok?? Grow some manners.

Oh, by the way... I'm a MAC!!

Posted by: KRD | October 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

GOBAMA!

Posted by: W | October 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I am looking for "YOUR MOM". Can we meet and discuss your issues (your son wants apple laptop, your husband needs money, etc.) I will be glad to help...

Posted by: MILF | October 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

I am looking for "YOUR MOM". Can we meet and discuss your issues (your son wants apple laptop, your husband needs money, etc.) I will be glad to help...

Posted by: MILF | October 10, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse


I don't agree with this comment"

"MCCAIN & PALIN 2008 MCCAIN & PALIN 2008 MCCAIN & PALIN 2008"...

Posted by: useyourmoneywiselybadtimesarehereandupahead | October 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I am looking for "YOUR MOM". Can we meet and discuss your issues (your son wants apple laptop, your husband needs money, etc.) I will be glad to help...

Posted by: MILF | October 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Whoever did that stupidity by pasting John McSame and Sarah Pointless on this page just demonstrates the silliness of some of their supporters.

Posted by: Barack Rocks | October 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

PC rules..............

Posted by: Nirav | October 10, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

I am looking for "YOUR MOM". Can we meet and discuss your issues (your son wants apple laptop, your husband needs money, etc.) I will be glad to help...

Posted by: MILF | October 10, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I am looking for "YOUR MOM". Can we meet and discuss your issues (your son wants apple laptop, your husband needs money, etc.) I will be glad to help...

Posted by: MILF | October 10, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

I am Linux, I kiss no one's ass

Posted by: Bahaa | October 10, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Whoever did that stupidity by pasting John McSame and Sarah Pointless on this page just demonstrates the silliness of some of their supporters.

Posted by: Barack Rocks | October 10, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Would someone please remove the manic obsessive-compulsive text posted by the Mccain- Palin psychopath? In fact- the whole article is misleading and beyond annoying. This rookie is an embarrassment to your newspaper- "Don't buy a Mac laptop?" How about- "yet?"

Posted by: auramac | October 10, 2008 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Would someone please remove the manic obsessive-compulsive text posted by the Mccain- Palin psychopath? In fact- the whole article is misleading and beyond annoying. This rookie is an embarrassment to your newspaper- "Don't buy a Mac laptop?" How about- "yet?"

Posted by: auramac | October 10, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

> I agree... a laptop is not a toy and a 13 year-old shouldn't be given one.

What does that mean? That you shouldn't have fun with it? That you should only use it if being paid to? That it's for adults only?

If you don't mind spending the money, and it encourages the kid to write or code or whatever, then that's great. :)

(I'm a penguin)

Posted by: neighbor | October 10, 2008 1:50 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13 I had a Commodore 128 and I saved up my allowance and bought an Amiga 2000 a few years later. Give the kid a break.

Posted by: AppleFan | October 10, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Sick people all around. May your god bless you. what a waste of space, but it is obvious there is allot of unused space in their cranium, so what to do? No moderator obviously.

Posted by: justadad56 | October 10, 2008 2:03 PM | Report abuse

I need some weed

Posted by: "Sad Face" | October 10, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

I miss the days when only Intelligent people voiced there opinion over the public "airwaves". In this Internet era any one with a connection to the internet and an axe to grind sadly has a voice that travels around the world.

Posted by: Paradoxical | October 10, 2008 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Fashion computing is a steaming pile of manure.

Marketing Genius != Technical Superiority

Did you all hear the latest rumor about iWearBlackTurtlenecks tumors?

Oops!

Posted by: Down with Cupertino | October 10, 2008 2:12 PM | Report abuse

To everyone attacking or being condescending toward the 13-year-old: There is no reason why a 13-year-old, particularly a knowledgeable one, shouldn't have a computer. I was programming at age 11. The following year, I was running a website (and I'm not talking about a Geocities page). This early experience benefitted me greatly--without it there's no way I could've been a college senior at 19.

So quit harassing the kid for being excited about technology.

Posted by: Mike | October 10, 2008 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Wow alot of Apple tards REALLY don't like anyone saying anything bad about Apple.

Don't get an apple, get a regular PC and join the real world. And dont be scared of all their BS about viruses and crap. They simply need justification for not knowing anything about computers and want to appear savy. They also need to somehow justify spending more and getting less.

Posted by: jabber_wolf | October 10, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Anybody who believes there's "journalism" in blogs is an idiot. Ninety percent of the "journalists" don't even bother to proofread their work.

Posted by: You're joking | October 10, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I still have my Mac SE. I think it cost me about $2,000, and it still runs.

Posted by: Lisa | October 10, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I like Obama

Posted by: Aho liquor | October 10, 2008 2:15 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: zoop | October 10, 2008 2:16 PM | Report abuse

This article is of no use to John McCain.
LOL

Posted by: LocalGuy | October 10, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

The headline isn't misleading... it's quite truthful. Mac laptops are overpriced and aren't really any better than that of their competition. Don't buy a Mac Laptop. Unless you like to waste money?

Posted by: James | October 10, 2008 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Waiting for the new laptops definately. My Mac Book works great and would love to look for a new one. Keep going Apple

Posted by: Gaurav Hajela | October 10, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

werfewrfwerfqwf

Posted by: werf | October 10, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Well, now I feel vindicated that I was planning to hold off on buying that Mac notebook. I had planed on buying it never, and this piece helped me solidify that position.

And leave the kid alone. If he wants one and his parent want him to, he can have a Mac notebook. Maybe his parents didn't buy a house they could have never logically afforded. Maybe they didn't cash out the equity in their home when the value was at its peak to buy a boat or an H2 or a custom motorcycle. Maybe responsible people want to reward their responsible child (combine gift...I don't think this is a case of him being spoiled and getting whatever he wants when he wants it). People griping should have a: studied harder in school so that they cuold be more marketable and make more money in their careers. b: not bought a $500k house when all they could afford was a $100k house. c: Not cashed out the equity in ther homes to buy vehicles, vacations or other through-aways. d: Not pulled all of their money out of the maret any time during the past 2 weeks. If you did, you're going to be really sorry when the market rebounds and everything goes back up again. And it will. You've only lost all that money if you sold your shares. If you held them, though the value is down, you still have the shares. When the shares go back up, viola, your money would return.

Posted by: Relieved | October 10, 2008 2:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC. It would be nice for Apple to quit making things thinner and sexier and make them more reliable like they were when they gained such a great reputation for hardware. The thin and cool looking machines being pumped out of china as fast as possible are not worthy of their old rep. for good hardware. I'm a PC and I like a lot of things Apple. I'm a PC and I support a lot of macs at work.

Posted by: PC | October 10, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

I won't ever purchase a Mac. Their ad campaign did nothing but piss me off and spread lies. I have never had problems with my PC's or laptops. However, I have a problem with mac users and go out of my way to exclude them from my business practices. I guess I am an extremist in my beliefs but IMO Al'Queda is hitting the wrong targets.

Viruses are non existent on my computers, I haven't had one in 4 years because I am not an idiot like Mac users who go to websites that should be pulled from the internet or have unsafe internet habits.

Don't buy a Mac, buy a real computer. The Mac OS is doing nothing but helping the world grow more retarded.

Posted by: Anti-Mac | October 10, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Yawn......

Posted by: Blah | October 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Macintosh computers? Those still around? How quaint...

Posted by: Spitfire | October 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

As to the cynics I almost feel sorry for those folks. Almost. Not in a sympathetic way but in the pity that they simply are and they deeply lack.

When I was 13 I went to the 2nd West Coast Computer Faire (where the Apple ][ was introduced or recently so). The "Wintel PCs" of the day were called "S100" systems. If you don't know what an S100 is, that should be your clue, given that Apple was there already!

Posted by: Jes | October 10, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Good work folks for getting rid of that McCain-Palin spammer. I'd wait on the Mac Laptop until you get some USER reviews. I see someone else started with Commodore. I started with the VIC20. Upgraded to the 64 and then the 128. From there I've been IBM since. Well... now Lenovo. Never cared for Apple computers to be honest with you. Besides doesn't that defeat the chants against Microsoft? I mean One Computer... One OS... One source for it all???? You need an Apple Market like we do PCs.

Posted by: Greg | October 10, 2008 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Yup spend twice much for Mac and get last years graphics and PC chips

Posted by: Overpriced | October 10, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Re: "SPAM" message and obviously same author "McCain et Palin".

Isn't that just like Republicans and NeoCons: like all bullies when they can't deal with a situation they simple try to bully their way through it by force.

Posted by: Jes | October 10, 2008 2:30 PM | Report abuse

Lame article.

Actually now would be the perfect time to get a great deal on perfectly good current inventory.

Posted by: Me | October 10, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

This is brilliant, you are all re-enforcing every American stereotype available! Cheers for the buggering up the economy, when you get a passport come visit me in the rest of the world. And are you really, seriously gonna let that Alaskan bird with learning difficulties run your country? ha ha ha!!!

Posted by: English Guy | October 10, 2008 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Get back to WORK!!!

Posted by: THE BOSS | October 10, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Ah humanity! Time for and education: A MAC IS a PC, it just runs proprietary operating system and it can run Windows and Linux if you like. I run Windows and Linux Ubuntu which come with about $1,000 worth of software for free. Anyone who says "linx is to hard" is an idiot. Simply search for Ubuntu ISO, download version 8.04 ISO for desktop and burn it to CD. Put it in your computer and boot to that CD click Try Ubuntu without changing your System. Now you are free, and the next time Windows crashes so that you cant load, you can pop this in and still access your files AND load all your MS office file to Open Office and keep working. Remember how reluctant you were to switch from IE to Fire Fox? Time to cut the umbilical cord kiddies, its free, and it works. By using the ISO you can see if all the drivers work for your system before you install it as a secondary OS, opposite Windows or MAC X. The test CD changes nothing on your system and that computer that you have had for 8 years that you think you had to throw away? Not anymore Linux is a very efficient Kernel, but dont let me ruine the economy by letting to keep thinking you have to waste $800. Waste money if you want. Ubuntu forums have people that will gladly help you with anything and the answers com in minutes, not 45 minutes while talking to "Bob" from "Los Angles, Iowa" with a plesantly indian accent.

Posted by: Hubby | October 10, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Hey Diz, I'm not sure what a labtop is, but if you have an active checking account and a phone number, you can get one from Bluehippo.com.

Posted by: pyroy | October 10, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

was an Altair 8800 now I'm a PC.

Posted by: Lee | October 10, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Opinions are like strings. Every yo-yo thinks he ought to have one.

My first experience with computers was in 1966, when I was 30, with the IBM S/360. First you ordered a computer. Then you built a room for it and bought the biggest air-conditioner you could find. Then you sent people who wanted to be programmers to IBM schools to learn Assembler or COBOL so they could write your payroll and A/R programs. No software available.

I'm jealous of Adam Codrington, and I hope he ignores people who need to boost their egos by picking on a 13-year-old.

Posted by: Lionel | October 10, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

All macs are is just a pretty shell disguising a piece of crap. It's like taking mud and wrapping it in a Hershey's candy bar wrapper. It LOOKS good, but has extremely poor functionality and there's only one way to do things on a mac, the superior way, the BEST way. APPLE'S way! I'm tired of that b.s. theory that apple is superior in computer society. They are not. You cannot run hardly any of the amazing and extensive amount of programs that you can run on Windows... which wake up! about 90% of the world uses anyway. I like being able to have the ability to do things on the computer that I can do my own way, and not Apples "superior" way. Apple = SNOBS! PC = Amazing functionality and productivity. Apple, get over it, you're NOT superior!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Hysterical. When you read a thread of obvious PC users bashing the Mac, It proves Apple is doing something right. But, seriously, to rip a 13 year old kid because he's excited about it, no wonder our society is going right down the drain. Come on, grow-up people!

Get a PC and join the rest of the world? Do you honestly believe that statement yourself? Too funny

Posted by: stargazer | October 10, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather gargle a cup of boiled donkey balls than buy a Mac.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

I built my own computer. I run XP, SUSE and UBUNTU. By the way, Linux in a lot easier to run then it was in the early Red Hat days.

Kid if you want a MAC more power to you, it's your folk's money so don't worry about it. You might grow up to be the new Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. Who knows?

Posted by: Hand Sanitizer | October 10, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

I remember paying $600 for a 486 DX2/66 UPGRADE chip!

Posted by: FOB | October 10, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

What a piece of yellow journalism. Completely misleading headline created just to get hits on the website (AKA advertising dollars). If this is the future of journalism, it's depressing indeed. This type of misleading article would be laughed out of the press room if the author submitted it for the print newspaper. Yet online this type of tripe flies. I hope the Washington Post realizes that the credibility of the publication will be eroded with stories of this caliber.

Posted by: pathetic journalism | October 10, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

After reading a number of posts, it occurs to me that some people like Macs, and others like PCs.

Maybe we could have that put in a FAQ somewhere.

Posted by: Observer | October 10, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

why do people love Apple so much? They are not that great and are way overpriced.

Posted by: jimmy stewart | October 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Good story, was hoping for a little more! I've read earlier this week about the new MacBook, alu case! Now that's sharp.

I just hope Mac's do get cheaper since their counterparts are selling for roughly 40% less than a Mac, same level hardware. I would like to own a nice Mac again. My last one was a 512Ke, which no one here probably knows what that is.

Adam, best of wishes to get your shiny new Mac! Ahh, the first computer, kind of like your first love (maybe better). Enjoy, hope you get your wish!

tt

Posted by: hackintosh | October 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

A laptop I want
but green don't have
Guess I'll settle for food
and not make the wife mad

Before I got a computer, I read more, I played more, and I got laid more.

Posted by: cabbie | October 10, 2008 2:44 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to be gargled

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

Posted by: dolfy | October 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Apple sucks
dont buy it

Posted by: PoisonMan | October 10, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

>>The days of infected Microsoft software are over for me.

Yes! because now YOU are infected with the apple virus

Posted by: Didi | October 10, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Don't you people have Jobs, go back to work. If you don't have a Job go get one. what a usless string of whiners....

Posted by: Rich | October 10, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

I need a job! Will someone pay me to be gargled?

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm 20 and I just wanna buy some more weed.

Posted by: Scooter | October 10, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Tell it like it is Brother

"
A laptop I want
but green don't have
Guess I'll settle for food
and not make the wife mad

Before I got a computer, I read more, I played more, and I got laid more.

"

Posted by: EnnyK | October 10, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Just don't vote for MACaine

Posted by: zbiz | October 10, 2008 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Obama blows just like and mac and he's a communist just like steve jobs.

Posted by: Joe | October 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13 I was working 40 hours a week and living off beans.

Posted by: Scooter | October 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

I love mac's. I have used both PC and mac and the mac is the way to go.

Posted by: Rosie | October 10, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

One more time people: Would all the PC users please abstain from using or talking about Apple products. When your brains evolve, you will realize all of the money and countless hours you all spent over the years fixing and updating your PC's. The spending will end when you get a Mac. Warning: your PC might crash while reading this comment. The Geek Squad wants your money.

Posted by: Ed Gates | October 10, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13 the only "computer" we had was a sundial, but only two* numbers had been invented, so it was either "0" o'clock or 1 o'clock.

*one number if you are one of those cranky old buzzards who never gets laid so insists "0" isn't a number.

Posted by: dinosour | October 10, 2008 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I'm Linux

Posted by: LiraNuna | October 10, 2008 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I hope the quality of the new ones are better.

My daughters $2000+ notebook's (which is a little over 1 year old) hard drive just crashed and died at college along with a roommates that died less than a month before.

I'm not too impressed with Apple's quality.

Posted by: Mike from Long Island | October 10, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

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Posted by: NOT washingtonpost.com | October 10, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

yes, this title uses a very clever ploy. for perhaps 20 years ago. old old old and wasting people's time. now i'm typing this crap. dammit.

Posted by: barfhead | October 10, 2008 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm a Donkey Balls

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Still don't regret getting my MacBook Pro before the semester started. Both of my roommates have PCs and they've both had to have them re-imaged.

Posted by: In Class | October 10, 2008 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Just a quick word to Max: Don't pick on Rob for the headline. He probably had nothing to do with it, which you'd know if you actually knew journalism, yellow or otherwise.

Posted by: E Kent | October 10, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Can you play poker on the new MAC?
http://www.pokerrakebackcalculator.com

Posted by: Ubin | October 10, 2008 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"who needs a laptop a thirteen???"

I got my son his first computer at age 3, his first laptop at age 10. He got hired by Google before the IPO and retired by age 24. So I guess if your whiffle ball got you a contract with the Yankees, that's a good analogy. Otherwise... enjoy your laptop, Adam!

Posted by: Judith | October 10, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13 I was just learning to whack off. I can see how a new computer could help with that.

Posted by: gns100 | October 10, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

"The days of infected Microsoft software are over for me."

Yes and the days of infected Apple >>PCs

Posted by: Your dad | October 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

There's no difference between a mac and a pc other than the OS.

When you become elite you can spend $500 dollars and load the laptop with Debian or Slackware

Otherwise you can drop $2000+ on a mac and go get your butt stitched up

Posted by: Idiots | October 10, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

maybe the kid wants garage band?

Posted by: Angela | October 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Seems to be a lot of Astroturfing going on here. Either that, or a lot of MS fanbois mindlessly reguritating corporate advertising slogans.

Posted by: Tigertank | October 10, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13 I played with dirt

Posted by: Brian | October 10, 2008 3:25 PM | Report abuse

my name is tux and im a penguin.... i'm secure, fast, stable and free. Also i get along with almost any hardware now.. WOW

Posted by: penguin | October 10, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

But do you run Crysis?

Posted by: Brian | October 10, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Mac sucks cause its had to play warcraft on =P

Its a mediocre computer that is just packaged well so it looks "cool."

If you want cool get an alienware ^_^

Posted by: not convinced | October 10, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

dont know what that is so why would i need to

Posted by: tux | October 10, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

My name is Donkey Balls.... I'm brown, smelly and can be gargled.

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

A 13 year old should bike, hike and live life. Not strive for a silly computer (either mac or pc.) When he grows up he will be spending 1/3rd of his life in front of the machine, working.

Posted by: KK | October 10, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

this is one article that the Super 8 banner ad was more informative at the top of my page

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 3:31 PM | Report abuse

If he's lucky!

Posted by: Brian | October 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"my name is tux and im a penguin.... i'm secure, fast, stable and free. Also i get along with almost any hardware now.. WOW"

Yea pretty much same as mac thats why you can't customize them outside of what mac offers. I love this argument and the people that argue it.

Yea I'm a mac a piece of fruit I know you don't know much about computers and buy into most ad campaign's so let me bend you over and run it up your hole while I snatch your life savings

Posted by: idiots | October 10, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

"Both of my roommates have PCs and they've both had to have them re-imaged."

Either your roomates have extreme bad luck or you made that up. I've had tons of PC's and never had to have one of them re-imaged...

*Sigh* the things people will say to defend Mac

Posted by: Confused | October 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Apple designs its computers for people with only 1 finger. How else can we explain the absence of a right click button while right click menus exist in the OS?
Surely the "usability" experts at Apple cannot make such a basic oversight.
There is one other explanation though - a flat mouse pad with no break-lines looks sexier. And the sales force at Apple knows that a large majority of the users like Macs for the sexy-ness. I got an idea - why not preload the Mac with GBs of porn and offer a lifetime of lotion and kleenex to go with it? Lol.
Jokes apart, I tried the Mac Book Pro for a year - didnt see what the hoopla was about. Besides, it crashed on me twice a month before I finally dumped it.

Posted by: Gill Bates | October 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

"my name is tux and im a penguin.... i'm secure, fast, stable and free. Also i get along with almost any hardware now.. WOW"

...Nothing like Donkey Balls really

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

This writer looks too much like a Microsoft fan. Shame. Plus, his writing is not very good. I have been a Mac columnist for years and would never get this by.

Posted by: Thomas | October 10, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Pegoraro, you successfully received lots of traffic using a clever but deceptive title. I hope such a bad journalistic behavior would not be around much longer at a reputable newspaper company like Washington Post. Perhaps you could shine better in marketing than journalism.

Posted by: ComputerScientistInDC | October 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

...Nothing like Donkey Balls really

The secret is to clip them up really high.

Posted by: Brian | October 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

what else can apple do in a mac book , mac book pro laptop that is no done before?
lighter? lenovo is lighter...
smaller? mini notebook is smaller.
lcd backlite screen? everyone has one.
keyboard? everyone has one.
run vista?
run os/x ? so is all other mac book.
harddrive?motherboard? wireless? nope.
faster GPU, cheaper faster memory? nope...everyone has it too..
yea.....the apple logo....
that's the only thing this is "innovative" that cost you on average $400 or above for an overprice product that otherwise is just like everyone else.
design? give me a break...it still open like a clam shell right? so it's the same old.

Posted by: whatelse | October 10, 2008 3:35 PM | Report abuse

I've been using Window's based machines for the last 10 years (all the time working on my Blue and White G3 at home--the one that went through a lightning strike and only lost the modem...). If you want to stay with Windows, then do so. Some of us are quite happy with the quality of the Mac (see previous parenthetical) and those of you whining about misleading headlines are only upset because you thought your prejudices were going to be upheld. If you don't like it, press the back button. I'm using an IMac now, and my daughter is still using the blue and white. How many computers did you buy in the last 10 years?

Posted by: Back In Mac | October 10, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

im not a pc or a mac, and i don't suck, i dont dry your pockets with proprietary software, an operating system so unstable it can only be loaded on "mac" hardware. I don't see what justify paying 1500+ on a laptop when a more powerful, stable platform is available. And i hate defending windows, but when it comes to OS's windows is and always has been stable. I could build my own machine with the SAME SPECS AS A MAC for around 500-700$... congrats apple for being able to rip off so many idiots. im truly jealous that i don't have an inferior product that people buy because my genius advertising.

Posted by: not a pc | October 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

OH YEAH! If Dale Earnhardt were still alive he'd kick your....

Ooops. Wrong forum.

This argument was stale 10 years ago. Who really cares. They all suck!

Posted by: Brian | October 10, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

whatelse - I'm going to take a wild guess and say that you are Chinese. :)

it stilla opena likea clamma shella?

Posted by: Gill Bates | October 10, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Son! despite what your mom said. I will buy you that laptop. This way I would have something to take away from you as a punishement when you screw up! you will grounded from it for a month at a time. lol

Posted by: THis is your Dad speaking | October 10, 2008 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Really they're more for gargling than clipping

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 3:41 PM | Report abuse

I love it!!!!

Is it back in mac or that you have mac in your backside.

I have an old PII 266 system that has been serving web pages for 5 years. Running Debian Linux. I reboot it about once every six months

I have no business on this thread WTF am I doing here??????

Posted by: Idiots | October 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

LEAKED

OmGGGG!!! the future of computing

Posted by: LEAKED | October 10, 2008 3:45 PM | Report abuse

"I have no business on this thread WTF am I doing here??????"


Looking for some Donkey Balls?

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

What exactly is "yellow" journalism?

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Looking for some Donkey Balls?

NAAAA

but clearly that's all that's here

Posted by: Idiots | October 10, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Thats what I'm sayin

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Piece out dummies

Posted by: Idiots | October 10, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Great News, but I wasn't planning on buying a Mac ever. Nor do I know anyone who would.

Posted by: Someone | October 10, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

I belive in time like this your tax money should fund Stevecan Jobs. We don't need fancy Health care or collage. I didn't pass a bill for your future in fact blame Obama for that. On nov. If John Is not prez. you'll will pay (yes "pay).

Posted by: Bush(not) | October 10, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

""who needs a laptop a thirteen???"

I got my son his first computer at age 3, his first laptop at age 10. He got hired by Google before the IPO and retired by age 24. So I guess if your whiffle ball got you a contract with the Yankees, that's a good analogy. Otherwise... enjoy your laptop, Adam!""

And he'll get laid by the time he's 35, I just know it! Such a good boy.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

You all need to get a life!

Posted by: Nes | October 10, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I need no life. I have Donkey Balls!

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

My company has two macs and zero Vista PCS. Vista sucks even in new computers. You may save some money by buying a Dell with Vista, but its going to run at about half the speed of the Mac. If you don't believe me just compare the boot times.

Posted by: Javier | October 10, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

It's really entertaining to read all the whining from smug pseudo-intellectual blindly liberal panty-waisted status symbol buying Apple cult slaves complaining because they read the story title and missed the point of the story.

Hey 13 year old kid. Save your parents money. Buy two fast dual socketed motherboards for 64 bit AMD processors, build your own stinking Linux computers, have some fun, learn a thing or two about the technology, then build yourself a network and learn some more. Next install Windows and learn something about it so you are employable and useful to society.

Then take the left-over $1,000 - $1,500 dollars and invest it your tuition for a real engineering college not some liberal arts feel good I'm OK you're OK murdering terrorist dog suck up leftist I'm too busy feeling good about my self and my IPhone and my hybrid vehicle that I bought so I look intellectual crap excuse for an educational institution. Or buy yourself a good used motorcycle or a decent lightweight road bicycle.

:)

Posted by: dmc314 | October 10, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Or rent some Donkey Balls

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I started programming with Apple II, so I'm not entirely unfamiliar with Apple products, but ever since system 9 went down, there's been a dramatic drop in "care and quality" of Apple products. I too weighed in on MacBook Pro but opted for HP touch screen laptop with ExpressCard reader that I just love ... for one third of the price and twice the bang. Macs used to rule in our household, now we increasingly upgrade to PCs. So much cheaper and with more bang.

Posted by: John Kumpunen | October 10, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

The only important thing that needs to be said here is, "there is no 'h' in WIFFLE BALL"

Posted by: Boring | October 10, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

hmmmm there's no "h" in Donkey Balls either. He may be onto something

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

More bang for the buck as long as you use XP. The 7 year old OS that lacks instant search and Widgets.

Posted by: Javier | October 10, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

kljkfdmkf

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I run Linux with Mac and Windows in virtualized machines. I still don't get why anyone likes Mac that much, seems like a childish interface.

Posted by: Pirate | October 10, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

I hate Macs. I hate PCs. I hate them all!

Posted by: John McCain | October 10, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

If its a childish OS why Vista copies so much from it. Widgets, Spotlight, Aqua, etc.

Posted by: Javier | October 10, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Reminder to self: It's obvious that only knuckleheads read the Washington Post. Unsubscribe.

Posted by: Alex | October 10, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

In the future, There will be Donkey Balls

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

I'm a desktop PC

Posted by: DrZinn | October 10, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Im a PC and I am not alone

Posted by: Blah | October 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Im a PC and Ive been fused with a Zune!
Im a PUNE!

Posted by: Yeah! | October 10, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

At 13 my son was developing web sites, hosting and started his own successful web site development business at 15. He has since Graduated from college and now is a Ruby on Rails master code writing fool. Makes the really big bucks in a very secure job at the top of this industry. His only computer choice is Apple. Won't work on anything but. Hurray for the 13 y/o who knows his own mind.

Posted by: Candi | October 10, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Javier

Instant Search and Widgets? you mean 2 things you can add on for free from MS and Google?

Posted by: Dr Zinn | October 10, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Javier | October 10, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Can you add unix kernel? That is what keeps my 5 year old from deleting the System folder. Have you tried imposing permissions on your Windows folder?

Posted by: Javier | October 10, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Okay, the 13 year old kid has a better grasp of the English language than many of the others here, and seems to be pretty bright overall.
Jesse, how can you say the PC is the most non-proprietary? I'm guessing you're talking Windows, which is the MOST proprietary. Even Mac OSX isn't nearly a proprietary, since part of its source code is on display. The only proprietary bit of it is its display manager and some other stuff. But Linux is not proprietary at all, so your argument is just pretty much dead in the water.

"I'm a PC."
"I'm a PC too."
>C'mon, people, get original or don't saying anything at all, you're just not funny.

Posted by: C.k | October 10, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Actually the headline is not bad. It's very good. If it said "Wait to buy a Mac", there would be less draw than "Don't by a Mac"

Posted by: BMT | October 10, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Donkey Balls have some inherent security problems of their own

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Though on the up side Donkey Balls are completely open source.

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Once you use a Mac, you never go back!

Posted by: PBG4 | October 10, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Once you gargle Donkey Balls you'll....Probably end up in a dirty mexican strip joint.

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

of course you're anonymous...no one in there right mind would attach their name to something so politically retarded. Have a great day! :O)

Posted by: nerdPilot | October 10, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Donkey Balls prefer to be called "developmentally challenged"

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 5:05 PM | Report abuse

I am not even sure why I read any further than the title. It alone makes sense to me.

Posted by: JBBW | October 10, 2008 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Once you use a Mac, you never go back!
Posted by: PBG4 | October 10, 2008 4:47 PM

I did, and I did....

Posted by: JBBW2 | October 10, 2008 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC on a MAC...running virtual. I have the best of both worlds. Snotty MAC users have no idea. It's our little secret.

Posted by: Jay Arr | October 10, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Well MY 13 year-old was the first kid on the moon...who f-ing cares what your 13 year-old has accomplished? What's that have to do with anything? Gah....

Posted by: LoriMar | October 10, 2008 5:52 PM | Report abuse

LOL@ the guy who thinks Apples are made in America.

Posted by: The Cap'n | October 10, 2008 6:04 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC

Posted by: Noel K. Gewd | October 10, 2008 6:05 PM | Report abuse

I have Donkey Balls that are 13 years old.

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Donkey Balls R'lyeh Wgah'nagl fhtan

Posted by: Donkey Balls | October 10, 2008 6:37 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13, I was excited by 8-tracks!

Posted by: Dom | October 10, 2008 6:40 PM | Report abuse

MAC away you twinky little 13. You know you want it so you can show it off to your other little nerdites in J high. What a pathetic society we have become. Someone should slap your mom and dad. Americans are lazy gluttons too apathetic to change their horrible little world where people spend hours making comments on insignificant Internet threads.

Posted by: Khomning | October 10, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm a PC

Posted by: Peej | October 10, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

DON"T READ ROB'S COLUMN
*ever

Posted by: Arba | October 10, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

WHAT the F---. I just spent 1500 dollars on one of these for college. It doesn't even work correctly, and now a new one is coming out? F---. Just F---.

Posted by: Nathaniel | October 10, 2008 8:31 PM | Report abuse

And the best post award goes to 'Your Mom'

I use an older mac, xp, and gentoo.

In regards to an OS
gentoo > xp > mac os x

In regards to hardware, it was mac > pc but now mac hardware fails, so I don't see why anyone gets excited over new macs. Mac as a high priced computer for stupid people is also losing its strength as distros like Unbuntu cater to pyuter-tards for a quarter of the price, and Vista attracts the certifiable morons. Mac is over. It has nothing to offer the industry.

Posted by: voxunius | October 10, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

what a waste of my time, thanks washington post

let me know when you have real news not filler...

Posted by: i_want_that_30_seconds_of_my_life_back | October 10, 2008 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Chances are, the way our economy is tanking, most of these new laptops will be getting bought by China. Then, they'll move the factories back to the U.S. (finally) to exploit the starving work force here.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Yes, yes, I admit it Apples hardware leaves a lot to be desired. Dells and HPs are so much better.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2008_August_19/ai_n28010501/pg_1

Posted by: Javier | October 10, 2008 9:39 PM | Report abuse

That's a bad headline, and the story body is just a reprinting of a press release.

Why is Washingtonpost.com giving Rob Pegoraro web space, writing credit, and a paycheck?

Posted by: john | October 10, 2008 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Linux isn't difficult to use anymore... and it's constantly improving. My 5 year old laptop is running Kubuntu with the new KDE 4.1 desktop (with desktop effects enabled) and it runs awesome. Less money out of my wallet, less e-waste, no planned obsolescence, no DRM BS... it's a no brainer.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 10:03 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13 if we wanted to use a computer we had to walk to school and borrow a abacus by gumption. And it was uphill... both ways and snowing. And if we wanted to read a poorly written article with a really bad headline we had to read the whole local newspaper while walking up hill in the snow. We couldn't just click on a link that rose to the top of google news because of its bad headline.

Posted by: PC Pretty Clueless | October 10, 2008 10:51 PM | Report abuse

the comments are awesome! Great reading!

Posted by: rp | October 10, 2008 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Some of these posters are rough... get a cup of coffee or something folks.

Adam, good luck with the laptop! I always wanted an Apple laptop (they weren't as nice when I was young though) - so enjoy it!

Posted by: User | October 10, 2008 11:27 PM | Report abuse

What an irrelevant headline???

Posted by: Dexter | October 10, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Im a PC :)

Posted by: Im a PC | October 10, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

this articles comments seriously need moderating

Posted by: Anonymous | October 10, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

"Don't Buy A Mac Laptop"

You could have just stopped there.

Posted by: Justin Bailey | October 11, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

who needs a labtop a thirteen???

Posted by: aa | October 10, 2008 11:40 AM

every kid needs his own laptop
it's a basic human right now

Posted by: heron | October 11, 2008 12:17 AM | Report abuse

Remember that time when Apple sucked...Oh wait, that's now.

Posted by: YoungJolar | October 11, 2008 12:25 AM | Report abuse

hi I'm 3 months old and I love my 5th MacBook pro! *gasp* :)

Posted by: mac | October 11, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Who would admit that they are a PC? Dorks! Ballmer Buddies.

Posted by: rusty | October 11, 2008 12:35 AM | Report abuse

Back in my day
blah blah blah
well where not back in the old days
i had a laptop when i was 13
and i might get this new one
and im 15
so what!!

Posted by: get a life | October 11, 2008 12:41 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: steveballmer | October 11, 2008 12:51 AM | Report abuse

To compete with China and India the US needs to have basic computer proficiency at about age 6. By 13 the kids need to go beyond playing with it and start programming.

13 is not too early to start, it's about the time you need to have mastered the current technology. My colleague's son is doing Maya animation at age 13 this year.

Macs provide experience with both Mac OS X and Windows, making one ideal for a 13-year-old. Get to know the command line, get to know the GUI.

Props to Adam for getting into technology so early, he needs to.

Posted by: Kudos to Starting Early | October 11, 2008 1:07 AM | Report abuse

pc's SUXORS my ballzors

Posted by: joey boy | October 11, 2008 1:12 AM | Report abuse

I'm a ............... Sorry, I'm a PC who was just rebooted due to the blue screen of death.

Posted by: PC | October 11, 2008 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Buy the kid a $100 laptop

- I am a Linux Running PC

Posted by: Dylan | October 11, 2008 1:17 AM | Report abuse

Dang kid, at 13 I was working part time at the local sweat shop making micro stitch printed circuit boards for IBM, just to get the money to buy an Atari. Get a job so your parents won't lose their house trying to buy you a $2000 toy.

Posted by: ScrambledPC | October 11, 2008 1:56 AM | Report abuse

at least that kid can read the news. here is a trick for other kids, learn how to read.

Posted by: brandonstheory | October 11, 2008 2:25 AM | Report abuse

I'm a PC...and I rock!

Posted by: David | October 11, 2008 2:30 AM | Report abuse

I have a dog named Rusty...and he's a PC too!

Posted by: Rusty's Mom | October 11, 2008 2:32 AM | Report abuse

good for the 13 year old! he is allowed to dream!

where i grew up 13 year olds are not even allowed to dream and speak out! you sanctimonious greedy american adults!

Posted by: pissed envious asian | October 11, 2008 3:22 AM | Report abuse

There's more news and entertainment value in these comments.

Not to cast aspersions on the writer, that's just the way things have turned out here.

Posted by: Mike | October 11, 2008 4:00 AM | Report abuse

What are you all talking about!
you left the subject and talking about a 13 year old!!

if you can be helpfull then shut up! i just bought a Macbook pro! what should i do now!!!
bunch of lamer's

Posted by: Dike | October 11, 2008 5:00 AM | Report abuse

when i were a lad i asked for a computer I was told to go and stand down in the local computer shop and type in programs there...and I did.
Used to get up 2 hours before I went to bed, walk to school with shoes made of nails (wrong way around), eat saw dust and ground glass for lunch, dad used to stab us with knives for not getting all A*s in exams.
Seriously...children only know how their brought up and getting a laptop that most of us cant afford when working might seem big for us but if thats what your used to it would not seem out of place. At least its being given for christmas and birthday and not just handed out.
Good to hear some enthusiasm for tech (even if it is a mac).
And don't forget that if the poor african children had access to the net they'd be commenting on how spoilt you were to have toys and more than a basic bowl of rice on the table

Posted by: andy e | October 11, 2008 5:48 AM | Report abuse

Hmmmm.... Looks like "Dad" will be working overtime to pay for little Johnny's new Mac. Too bad I'm cutting him back to 40 hours until the new year. However... I did notice "Mom" looked sexy at the last company BBQ (I hate you all btw, but it's a write-off). Perhaps I can allow the little fella's Dad to work late a few nights here and there. Mom's performance and enthusiasm will determine the duration. Oh... and yes, dear little Mary can indeed fill in again during the holiday vacation. "My-Girl-Friday"... lol, Mom, Dad, you have no idea.

Think Different....

Posted by: Catch-22 | October 11, 2008 6:53 AM | Report abuse

Why bother waiting cos you will only be dissapointed next month when you find out that the latest hottest puter you bought last month is out datet next month anyway!

Posted by: Shaftoe | October 11, 2008 7:01 AM | Report abuse

Guess what rejects... this isn't 1966 anymore. PCs arent what they used to be, either are macintosh's. PCs are far superior now, and have been, in the fields of price, functionality, software availability, user support, and overall industry migration. macs are useless and so are the owners who swear by them. i hope you're OK making a horrible decision today because youre going to have to live with it tomorrow!!! Im a PC forever. so is the rest of the world.

Posted by: James | October 11, 2008 7:02 AM | Report abuse

Don't buy a Mac laptop... ever.
Get a cheap laptop and install any linux distro.

Posted by: Joan | October 11, 2008 7:58 AM | Report abuse

Give the kid the laptop, he'll be taking your jobs soon enough. My favorite remark was, "Most adults can't even handle one"

Hehe. Of course they can't, they're adults. The kid will actually get use out of it and 'suprise!' he'll actually know how to use it.

And just in case some of you missed the point. The headline is playing on Apple's own headline, "The Spotlight turns to Laptops." Meaning (in case you still don't get it): That both headlines don't give you any information.

Posted by: Bob | October 11, 2008 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Kid, enjoy and don't get upset with some annoying people in this forum. Go, create, learn and do even better than what we could do when we were young.

Posted by: Joakim, Stockholm | October 11, 2008 9:14 AM | Report abuse

I'm waiting for HP's official Christmas Shopping Season press release, before buying one of that company's computers.

HP updates their computers much more frequently than Apple.

My current HP computer has Just Worked perfectly since 2002, not requiring a single repair. No other problems either.

Posted by: JohnJ | October 11, 2008 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Can't wait to get a new mac book. mine is 5 years old and sill works great but upgrade would be nice.

Posted by: Dmitri | October 11, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Hate the headline. Another word or two - for example 'Until...' or 'This Week' - would have made this a headline with integrity, as opposed to a typically coy Apple bashing exercise.

Posted by: Pat Saine | October 11, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Hello.

I'm not 13, I'm 14. However! I actually worked hard to get my Mac and my iPhone. I am now a web developer and about to open up a business designing and maintaining websites. I have a website, partially designed by me (the rest is somebody else), at oliverames.synthasite.com. Apple and their thin notebooks. This is the first I have heared about the new ones however their is a rumor about a tablet called the brick. Looked interesting. I hope apple doesn't release any new stuff without it being perfect (MobileME and 3G iPhone were not). Let's hope apple picks itself up.

Posted by: Oliver | October 11, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Give a kid a MAC and he will learn to be creative.

If you give a kid a MAC, he will then want an XBOX because his MAC won't play any games.

Give a kid a PC and he will be employable.

A MAC is just a really expensive way to surf the internet.

Posted by: Reality | October 11, 2008 11:20 AM | Report abuse

Good for Apple its about time they moved into the 499 space. Just think of all the poor trendy bones that have to slum it on a PC. Now they can pose in front of the mirror with the best of them. Merry Xmas!

Posted by: jay | October 11, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I'm a PC, but I suffer from self loathing.

Posted by: exadam | October 11, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

hey u the thirteen year old. i feel the same way. my dad lost his job so now im a (slave for this awful company jk jk jk lol haha)

Posted by: nina r | October 11, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

Folks, this is a tech blog, not an investigative report. Get off your "journalistic integrity" high horses! Jeesh!

Posted by: Joe Mama | October 11, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Who Cares! Freakin' Chronics....

Posted by: Dad | October 11, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Best systems I've owned had everything to do with SETUP and always started with TinyXP Pro SP3 tweaked and tuned with Spybot, Ccleaner, and Avira.

I've owned nearly every brand on the market and without a doubt I think that Dell is the best quality. Anyways... for what it's worth.

Posted by: GoogleLite.org | October 11, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

whats a corm-pooter ?
I think Mr Bernake and Mr. Paulson
Could use one, 'cause I'm the decider ...
Hhuhuhuhu

Posted by: george w | October 11, 2008 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Yez, Dell is the best 'pooter

Posted by: Mr farmer in the dell | October 11, 2008 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Oct 14, huh? That's the date that my new Dell Inspiron [mini] 910 is due to be delivered. 8.9" screen, 2.2 lb., Ubuntu 8.4 (Linux), 16 GB SSHD, 1GB RAM, 1.3 Mpixel videocam, Bluetooth, WiFi, in other words, all tricked out, for $499. I wish that Apple made a netbook like this that would run some form of OS X so that I could sync my iPhone with it on the road. My MacBook is just too darned heavy and bulky to drag along, given the latest rounds of airline restrictions.

Posted by: SteveG | October 11, 2008 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I am meeting people who cannot write or print their names in a readable fashion because they have grown up using a keyboard. Shame.
Dick

Posted by: Dick | October 11, 2008 1:13 PM | Report abuse

No mac son...might have to sell your old iPod to pay the rent...

Posted by: YOUR DAD | October 11, 2008 1:17 PM | Report abuse

I am pleasantly surprised to see that all the posters here are PC, humorous, insightful, and can write with their respective tongue planted firmly in their own cheek!
Rob and the copy editors at the Post probably deserved to be gigged about the headline; but it was done with such grace that no one appears to have really flamed them.
It proves that the majority of those intrigued by the latest and greatest coming down the pipeline are all really just like our friend the 13 year old who is waiting for the amorphous "it" which will be better, faster, cooler, make our enjoyment better, etc.
Thank you "community" for restoring some faith in us all.

Posted by: Jim McN | October 11, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Dick:
At least you are meeting people. All I ever meet are 1s and 0s and those 0s are really nothing to look at!

Posted by: Dick's PC | October 11, 2008 1:27 PM | Report abuse

When I was 13, I got my first car. I worked on that car for the next 3 years after that. When I turned 16, I had the best '67 GTO anyone in school has seen. That was 21 years ago. Today, even during this economic plague and high gas prices, my car is worth more than 200 of those laptops. And I don't have to worry about upgrades, system crashing, virus/spyware, Bill Gates, Microsoft, Steve Jobs, Apple, Ipod, Iphone, etc. I just get to enjoy life, go to football, baseball, basketball, and soccer games. Heck, I can even tow a boat and go water skiing, fishing. Why am would I waste time in line to be the first knuckle head to get the newest bugged electronics bungle? Just like all things high tech, it will have problems, HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Posted by: Pablo Cruzio | October 11, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Always amazed at how righteous MAC users seem to see themselves. Odd. I use a MAC with Creative Suite for graphics and publishing. But for my real intensive database work, MACs just don't match up to PCs. I think the problem is Apple is too insular and narrow minded and focuses on design not performance for its computers. Windows has never failed me. OSX is simpler but limited to its niche.

Posted by: phenom | October 11, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

HEY IF YOUR A PC
WHAT YOU DOING HERE
READING THIS FOR
AND IM 15 AND I HAVE A MACBOOK
AND MY 12 YEAR OLD BROTHER GOT ONE
2!!!!!

Posted by: GO APPLE!!!!! | October 11, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

hey im 13 and i have a mac book
and i think the guy above is right
if you like pc
why are you reading this!!!

Posted by: 13 macbook dude!!! | October 11, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Hey Gay Marriage - NOT!

Posted by: Muggy | October 11, 2008 6:02 PM | Report abuse

13 year olds SHOULD NOT be reading these sites - as they attempt to extort their parents out of hard earned CASH. Sorry, my 13 year old will have to wait until college - she can use the "family" computer in the kitchen under everyone's supervision. Me, I NEED a NEW LAPTOP - I have had mine for 5 1/2 years - time for a NEW MACBOOK PRO - and I am getting one!!!

Posted by: Muggy | October 11, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Apple isn't the new Microsoft. Microsoft and its people have huge charity programs to give back to the community.

And, perhaps the comparison should be Apple-Dell or Apple-HP. After all, Microsoft isn't really in the hardware business (no PCs, no laptops).

Posted by: Huh | October 11, 2008 7:08 PM | Report abuse

You dum americans congrats that the golden city of the world is now going down to the bottom u shure ruined image of the US as the leader of the free world and the global economy. good luck with your 10 trillion dollars debt or say about over 50 trillion total because your old people and wars that u can win. Your emipre is gonna fall as others do. Empires all rise and fall. What happens when they fall? weak currency,weak country,food will skyrocket. 3000$ for a mac u dum american. macs cost less then that go to the apple website most macs are less then 2200$ and thats the 24-inch: 3.06GHz. Pablo Cruzio 13 your first car wow u need to be 16 inless you where a slave and had to work and 200 labtops lets see 200k car wow congrats u found out that u had no life.

Posted by: tdrfddfd | October 11, 2008 11:39 PM | Report abuse

i'm a hardcore gaming pc

Posted by: boring | October 12, 2008 12:16 AM | Report abuse

I have been using Windows Vista Ultimate for 18 months and I am sick of the lock-ups, blue screens, re-starts, and lack of compatible drivers. Every day there is at least one problem report submitted to Microsoft, but there are never any solutions offered. I have never owned a Mac, but I will be ready to buy one when this miserable Windows device becomes obsolete.

Posted by: Jim | October 12, 2008 1:08 AM | Report abuse

Laptops? 'aven't ye 'eard? The mill's closed. We're destitute. We'll 'ave to sell the lot of you for scientific experiments. Laptops, sniff, indeed. A family's gotta' eat first, 'ave roof over 'ead, and clean water. Laptops!

Posted by: Yorkshire Miller | October 12, 2008 1:15 AM | Report abuse

When I was 13, I played outside with real friends. That's why I am not fat. Bet 5 bucks, this kid is fat.

Posted by: rik | October 12, 2008 1:20 AM | Report abuse

Why should anyone in his right mind buy an apple (or a windows PC) when you can have for free a better operating system like Linux?
Get your ubuntu and leave obsolete idiots pay for their software.

Posted by: Efraim | October 12, 2008 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Now that article was full of tons of useful information! It could have been summed up in 1 sentence--wait till tuesday for Apple's notebook refresh announcement--rather than a waste of me reading a bunch of extraneous words, but I must say that the headline did catch my eye (especially when it made the Google news front page)

Posted by: B | October 12, 2008 1:39 AM | Report abuse

I love the new mac-pc's. Apple finally stopped making toys, and started using Intel cpu's, which allows you to push aside their crappy OS, and install one, two, or three others that get work done. Linux is the future, its only a matter of time, now that no one has a job or savings to spend 100-300 for an OS. If I were S.J. or B.G. I would be looking

Posted by: macnomore | October 12, 2008 1:53 AM | Report abuse

Geez. Some of you people need your funny bone tickled. I got the tongue-in-cheek w/ the asterisk. :-p

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=25p7sc1&s=4

Laugh more!

Posted by: Chris McCaw (MacShill) | October 12, 2008 2:07 AM | Report abuse

When I was 13 I was more interested in girls and sex than a damn computer.

Posted by: Jon | October 12, 2008 2:13 AM | Report abuse

apple's front end is tad bit better than windows, but...
a) it costs more, and
b) the hardware and warranty sucks -
which means the total cost of ownership is way more than windows

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 2:22 AM | Report abuse

Anonymous - both points a) and b) are total baloney. As with almost all manufactured products, one gets what one pays for. While it is true that Apple doesn't play at the Fisher Price/Wal-Mart end of the price spectrum, the Apple range is quite competitive and, yes, the hardware is brilliant. I am typing on a 6-year old Apple Powerbook. In that time my brother has gone through one Sony, one Toshiba, and one Dell laptop. Not very economical in my reasoning.

Posted by: jean | October 12, 2008 2:28 AM | Report abuse

YEAH, but is it going to be moist and chewy like cake so we can just eat them while working?

I'm going to put this thing on lay-a-way until obama gets in office.

Posted by: neon | October 12, 2008 2:54 AM | Report abuse

I'm STILL more interested in sex and girls, but a computer is what I've actually got.

Don't tell the 13-year old anything that would stop his parents from buying unnecessary toys to get the economy restarted. :)

Posted by: Mr Commodore PET 6502 | October 12, 2008 3:23 AM | Report abuse

Hey kid, you be careful with that new computer, you hear? You play around too much you gonna put your eye out!!!!!

Posted by: Randy | October 12, 2008 3:48 AM | Report abuse

If Obama is elected president, it will be every 13 year old's "right" to own a Mac.

Posted by: MacCain | October 12, 2008 6:14 AM | Report abuse

Hello. I'm a Mac.

Posted by: Phil | October 12, 2008 7:25 AM | Report abuse

Did you read this far down?

I am a mac, Oh Hi pc!

Posted by: Mac | October 12, 2008 8:07 AM | Report abuse

I recently crossed over and bought a MacBook Pro. Never had a Mac before. I LOVE it. In fact, my desktop needs replacing too, so soon my world may be all Mac all the time.

Can't wait to see the new laptops.

Posted by: Mac Convert | October 12, 2008 8:12 AM | Report abuse

I Live in Kansas.

Posted by: Goofy | October 12, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

Lay off me! I need a laptop to do my school! And my dad does have a job; he is a hardworking Firefighter. And despite the fact that I am 13 years old, I do understand the priciples of a capitalistic economy.

Posted by: adam codrington | October 12, 2008 8:41 AM | Report abuse

"Anonymous - both points a) and b) are total baloney. As with almost all manufactured products, one gets what one pays for. While it is true that Apple doesn't play at the Fisher Price/Wal-Mart end of the price spectrum, the Apple range is quite competitive and, yes, the hardware is brilliant. I am typing on a 6-year old Apple Powerbook. In that time my brother has gone through one Sony, one Toshiba, and one Dell laptop. Not very economical in my reasoning."

Hey great Jean but the fact is that Mac's run on the same hardware as every other laptop in production now. So MAC is a HAS BEEN platform

Posted by: Anonymous | October 12, 2008 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Hey! 13yr. young kido! I got my sweet 16yr.young kido a combo Birthday/Christmas gift computer as well. However, he wouldn't settle for an off the shelf model but insisted on a custom Tower from "IBuyPower.com" Powerful gaming components at a reasonable price! His school grades has improved & topping it off he's the #1 Warcraft Gamer in the World! Any Mac Gamers want to take him on?

Posted by: For The Love of Dad | October 12, 2008 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Buying a Mac, well that is not as bad as buying those "good, old line, conservative" mutual funds from Merrill Lynch or those other "investment" bankers. AIG borrows 700B$US and spends $500M on a Spa Weekend in CA.

Buying a Mac or even a PC makes more sense. At least it helps the economy. I like both computers and would take either one. What I buy next time, depends upon where each OS is positioned. You still have to use Office unless you get free Open Office & we may all have to use free now thanks to our advisors who wouldn't sell us anything they would not sell their mother.

The pc's may drop in price, but what about those $30-40 k cars? Will they be half ?

Posted by: JET | October 12, 2008 9:19 AM | Report abuse

So nobody didn`t watch any porn? when I was 13 I use to rent porn movies and watch them:)

Posted by: dse | October 12, 2008 9:59 AM | Report abuse

If I spend money I don't have on this, will the gov't bail me out?

Posted by: aleks | October 12, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

PC, Mac, I think everyone is missing the point. It is a tool.
My first computer was a commodore vic 20 and I was only 10.

I use Windows for work, linux for play, and mac... well... to damned expensive for the same hardware you get when you buy a cheap dell. Yes, everyone, Mac is now a PC.

Posted by: Long time user | October 12, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

before I graduated high school in 1962, I made my own circuit-boards, and using car radio audio output transistors, I built a solid state electronic digital computer.. I used light-bulbs 2v @70ma as indicators... designed and developed an original D to A converter.... designed and built binary coded decimal calculation, and had my computer connected to the phone.. it would answer the phone and follow the commands I dialed in from a remote phone.. I was also a Radio Amateur.. and played the accordion... I was captain of the Skippers club -skipped school so often- then I discovered girls.. it all went down hill from there..

won scholarships...

worked for the biggest Computer companies

married and divorced twice

I am now 64 living with my lady, -not married- retired, and have my own garage lab, studying chinese, and I play Louisiana Cajun, Zydeco, Rock and Roll, R&B on my accordion...

i have a small one man company -me- called GoodScienceProducts..

I have invented a new source of energy from solar radiation...

and experiment with light that heals... and light that effects cellular chemistry...

I have gotten all the tax money i ever paid the US government back... in surplus electronic equipment...

the political situation in the US is alarming...

sociopaths need to be removed from government office.. and prevented from ever gaining government, or corporate power.

I have both Mac and Windows based computers...

Mac's are the best computers ever built....

there is no better computer for you or I.

I'd rather have an Imac..-latest one- than my own Super Computer... or any other computer in the world..

A mac can run, OSX, Windows, Unix, Linux... all at the same time..

Mac's are fully wonderful, and insanely great...

take it from someone who really knows..


Posted by: Rich | October 12, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

I like mac and pc.

I used to hate macs. But now i work on one and it is pretty decent. Good for getting jobs done. Especially with protools.

But my PC is the game monster.

Its like apples and oranges. Both puts you in a very nice place.

Posted by: Stan | October 12, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

All those who whine about a 13 year old getting a laptop

must not have children- my children all have macs

ages 6,8 and 11 - they use them with proficiency

and all are doing exceedingly well with their studies

in school and out. 3000.00? no- I got the little one

a used g-4 for 200 bucks. Terrific.

Newsflash complainers: It's the 21st century-

Abner Doubleday and stickball are toast, sorry.


Posted by: tom | October 12, 2008 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I'm an ENIAC.

Posted by: McCain | October 12, 2008 11:58 AM | Report abuse

When I was 13 I wanted an IBM Selectric. I used to dream of all the letters I could type.

Instead all I got was a stupid 10-speed bicycle.

Posted by: Bippity Boppity Boo | October 12, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow I'm 45 - I have lots of computers and laptops - I just wish I could play outside.

Posted by: Abner | October 12, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

Newsflash "tom": It's the 21st Century, TOAST is a CD and DVD authoring and media conversion software application for Mac OS X.

Posted by: Dr. Markus Fest | October 12, 2008 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I live in Kansas too!

Posted by: Kansasgirl | October 12, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

I was 13 when Led Zepplin came out. We had no need for anything but an 8 track, CB and a Girlfriend in a car with a huge engine.

I could not wait.

How sad this is a big deal.

Posted by: GoDog | October 12, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey Kid: Congratulations! I hope you get what you wish.
However, There's way better laptop hardware out there: http://www.panasonic.com/business/toughbook/toughbook-products.asp
But even if you're mainly insterested in that OS: you don't need that pricey hardware anymore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFi-X

Anything you can do in a Mac, You can do it in Windows Vista and with more choices. Linux is very nice too, and free!, (although linux is a bit harder still, but possible)
I hope this information will help to a better informed decision. Good luck!

Posted by: J Portales | October 12, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Awesome!!! I had million times more fun reading the comments than the article :-)

Posted by: Bachi | October 12, 2008 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Chickapay an chickatay un may

chickapay

Posted by: Nell | October 13, 2008 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Is it just me or does "Rich | October 12, 2008 11:12 AM" sound like a friggin sociopath? Or drunk and verbose?

A PC can run, OSX, Windows, Unix, Linux... all at the same time.. http://www.osx86project.org/ Take it from someone who knows, I am doing it right now.

Go play your zidecco Rich.

Posted by: longtimeuser | October 13, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

When I was 13 all I wanted to do was smoke weed and get some pussy, now I am 33 and all I want to do is smoke weed and get some pussy, the hell with pc's

Posted by: Pat Mcgroin | October 13, 2008 10:30 AM | Report abuse

This whole line of blogging has gone to the fugging birds, what started with a 13 year old wanting a goddamn apple pc turned into a endless freakshow loop of idiots, druggies, drunks, and god knows what else.

Thanks Washington Post for supporting this fabulous furry freak show!!

Posted by: Motley Fool | October 13, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

God Bless America and Freedom of Speech (which includes typing)

The APPLE is the pomaceous fruit of the apple tree, species Malus domestica in the rose family Rosaceae. It is one of the most widely cultivated tree fruits. The tree is small and deciduous, reaching 5 to 12 metres (16 to 39 ft) tall, with a broad, ofnsely twiggy crown.[1] The leaves are alternately arranged simple ovals 5 to 12 cm long and 3–6 centimetres (1.2–2.4 in) broad on a 2 to 5 centimetres (0.79 to 2.0 in) petiole with an acute tip, serrated margin and a slightly downy underside. Flowers are produced in spring simultaneously with the budding of the leaves. The flowers are white with a pink tinge that gradually fades, five petaled, and 2.5 to 3.5 centimetres (0.98 to 1.4 in) in diameter. The fruit matures in autumn, and is typically 5 to 9 centimetres (2.0 to 3.5 in) diameter. The centre of the fruit contains five carpels arranged in a five-point star, each carpel containing one to three seeds.

The tree originated from Central Asia, where its wild ancestor is still found today. There are more than 7,500 known cultivars of apples resulting in range of desired characteristics. Cultivars vary in their yield and the ultimate size of the tree, even when grown on the same rootstock.

At least 55 million tonnes of apples were grown worldwide in 2005, with a value of about $10 billion. China produced about 35% of this total. The United States is the second leading producer, with more than 7.5% of the world production. Turkey, France, Italy and Iran are among the leading apple exporters.

A LAP is a surface created between the knee and hips of a bipedal being when it is in a seated position. A lap only exists in this seated form, and not when a being is standing erect or when it is lying down.

A TOP is a toy that can be spun on an axis, balancing on a point. This motion is produced by holding the axis firmly while pulling a string. An internal weight then rotates, producing an overall circular motion. The top is one of the oldest recognizable toys found on archaeological sites. Spinning tops originated independently in cultures all over the world. Besides toys, tops have also historically been used for gambling and prophecy. Some role-playing gamers still use tops to augment dice in generating randomized results; it is in this case referred to as a spinner. A thumbtack may also be made to spin on the same principles.

The action of a top relies on the gyroscopic effect for its operation. Typically the top will at first wobble until the shape of the tip and its interaction with the surface force it upright. After spinning upright for an extended period, the angular momentum, and therefore the gyroscopic effect will gradually lessen, leading to ever increasing precession, finally causing the top to topple in a frequently violent last thrash.

Posted by: The Professor and Mary Ann | October 13, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I like apples... That's all I have to say about that.

Posted by: Forrest | October 13, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

A birthday Laptop? That’s cute – real cute. When I was 13 I had 6 gold records. When I was 14 I had 8 more gold records. I could’ve kept it going too if it wasn’t for my whiny little sister and that crummy t.v. show.

Posted by: Donny | October 13, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

(Thanks for the birthday present Donald) When I was 13 I had a #1 Country Hit and my first gold record. And as I recall I would have kept singing solo if my stupid brother’s voice didn’t change and he couldn’t hit the high notes any more. Besides I’m not whiny, I’m just bitter that I was expected to carry his butt all those years. See ya tonight at the Flamingo, “Captain Purple.”

Posted by: Marie | October 13, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

See that’s what I’m talking about… whiny.

Posted by: Donny | October 13, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

So it seems we all agree the 13 year old needs a girlfriend and a muscle car for his birthday.

I suggest a cheerleader and a mustang GT for his school needs.

Posted by: Godog | October 13, 2008 12:13 PM | Report abuse

im 13 and i have a mac and girlfriend but not a car yet (too young:P)

but i had to pay for my mac and i have social skills for my gf!

get some money and life skills

Posted by: Anonymous | October 13, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Why do Mac People are so defensive?, It's just a computer, Get over it!

Mac or PC? Who cares, too many real issues to worry about.
I swear sometimes i think is a Cult, One day Steve Jobs is going to make you drink the cool-aid and wait for the mothership.

To The 13 year kid, More power to you enjoy it.

Posted by: CRS1 | October 13, 2008 12:54 PM | Report abuse

OOOOHHH The Professor and Mary Ann know how to use the copy and paste feature on the PC, MAC, Linux, or whatever to pilfer content from wikipedia. We are all so impressed. This goes to show you; regardless of whether people use a mac, linux, or windows they will still find an excuse to waste our time (and their own) trying to look smart.

Posted by: long time user | October 13, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Hi Adam!
Thanks for sharing your excitement! Wish you could have received it when you were a 7 yr. old. I have no doubt that you will make great use of it at 13. I'm 71 and can only imagine how wonderful it would have been when I was your age. Congratulations and Happy Birthday!!!
Grandpa Dee

Posted by: Anonymous | October 13, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

long time loser:
It wasn't the copying and pasting that was hard - it was building this computer out of coconuts on this little island that was tough.

I also think the funniest part is that you took the time to check it out on wikipedia. (Classic moron)

Posted by: The Professor and Mary Ann | October 13, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Professor I didn't catch that the post was meant to be humorous instead of to inform. I guess I really did show what a geek I am by taking everything so seriously.

Please accept my apology for over reacting to your attempt at levity.

Posted by: long time user | October 13, 2008 3:15 PM | Report abuse

accepted.

Posted by: The Professor and Mary Ann | October 13, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey! I did not apologize! Someone has usurped my user name! This is just another attempt to waste our time (and their own) by trying to look smart!

Posted by: long time user | October 13, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Then I withdraw my acceptance of your apology - since it was apparently fraudulent!

v. u•surped, u•surp•ing, u•surps

1. To seize and hold (the power or rights of another, for example) by force or without legal authority. See Synonyms at appropriate.
2. To take over or occupy without right: usurp a neighbor's land.
3. To take the place of (another) without legal authority; supplant.

To seize another's place, authority, or possession wrongfully.

Posted by: The Professor and Mary Ann | October 13, 2008 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Geez ,When I was 13 I was trying get into bars and off to a great alcoholic career.
I hope he gets the computer.

Posted by: bobeca | October 13, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Please everyone stop bickering! This is supposed to be about a young child’s dream of owning an Apple Laptop Computer. Stop turning this into some crazy conversation between a classic moronic computer geek and two fictional characters from a failed television sitcom.

I for one believe that if this child is able to realize his dream (owning the new and most certainly over priced lap top); then one star in heaven will shine just a little bit brighter, and the burdens of this world will become just a little bit lighter.

You want change? Well here it is, right in front of us. Please if there is a God in heaven help this young boy realize his dream. Let us not become distracted by the petty disagreements that now pepper our world; for that just rubs salt in our wounds.

Posted by: Theresa | October 13, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

I for one would love one of these new Mac Laptops; but unfortunately; even before the "collapse;" I was unable to afford one.
As a PC user; I must say "Vista" sucks; Xp could have been "improved," and used a few more years while "Gates, & Co." were making everything that's wrong with "Vista" operate correctly(what's not wrong with VIsta).

Posted by: Old Geek in Fla. | October 13, 2008 4:49 PM | Report abuse

pc == mac;
pcZealots != pc;
macZealots != mac;
if((pcZealots forceUse mac) || (macZealots forceUse pc))
{
pcZealots = idiots;
macZealots = idiots;
print "you are all idiots";
}

Posted by: pmac | October 13, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Adam, the fact that you're 13 and reading the Washington Post says a lot about you! I hope you get your computer - it's clear that you will probably make way better use of it than the majority of folks that just posted obnoxious comments after you (and probably on their bosses' dollars). No wonder our economy is going downhill...

As for the article, glad to read it! I'm in the market for a Mac to replace my old Dell P.O.S. Now I know to wait just a little bit longer!

Posted by: Anonymous | October 13, 2008 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I guess everyone was at home reading the Post and saving gas? I was working on my resume so I can pay for gas.

Posted by: Tina | October 13, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

When I was thirteen we had to memorize the multiplication tables and use pencil and paper to calculate (1940). Got my first computer, an Apple //c, when I was 59, and have been a very happy Apple computer user for 22 years.

Merry Christmas, Adam.

Posted by: William Richards | October 13, 2008 8:53 PM | Report abuse

What's a MAC w/o special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions, on a sesame bun?

I'm a PC too!

Posted by: Strider | October 13, 2008 10:42 PM | Report abuse

You know what you call a Mac when you take it on a trip? A Road Apple

Posted by: George | October 13, 2008 11:57 PM | Report abuse

The reporter is cute. Who cares if he can write! Woof!

And the headline worked didn't it? You read the article. :-)

Posted by: Secret Admirer. ;-) | October 14, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

So if Apple is coming out with a $500 laptop...

...just how CHEAP can I get a current MacBook if I wait 'til Tuesday?

In this economy, I can live without the latest... just give me the most economical right now.

Posted by: scrivener | October 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Report abuse

13; wow...i was masturbating like crazy at that age

Posted by: Anonymous | October 14, 2008 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I thought the article was rather clever, and I suspected what it was really about after reading the other day that Apple was holding a press conference on October 14th. Besides if I was buying a mac, I'd be quite upset to buy one on October 13th, only to learn if I had waited a day or two I could have had a mac that will probably cost less, and have more memory, a faster processor, and a bigger hard drive.

As for the 13 y/o wanting a computer, why is it a bad thing? He can use for school, to write papers, and do other homework. I'd be more willing to pay twice as much to buy a child one decent laptop computer, rather than a video game console that might cost between $300-$500, a portable dvd player that costs $100-$200, and a bunch of other useless items that added all together would cost about as much as a computer. In the long run it would cost you less, since I've found a usefull life for each of our corporate Macbooks is 5-7 years, while we only get an average of 2.5 to 3.5 years usefull life out of our PC based laptops.

Posted by: cas1963 | October 14, 2008 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Dad,

I would give you my left nut to have a GT Mustang instead of an apple laptop.

No one I know can get pussy with a laptop,
but a Mustang, WOW!!

I promise to cut the grass, rake the leaves, clean the gutters, take out the trash, clean the bathroom, pressure wash the deck, weed eat the yard, basically all of the stuff that you hate doing.

Please Dad, Please get me the Mustang, PC's will be here forever, but the pussy
won't.....

Love,

Your son

Posted by: Your Son | October 14, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

No netbook, Apple is losing ground

Posted by: yoink | October 14, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I am the original poster. The Professor and Mary Ann need to go! Moron? You are the one who pasted from wikipedia. The fact is, that I didn't even go check to see if it was from wikipedia, it was just so obvious that you had copied and pasted from somewhere that I threw wikipedia in as the source. You are the moron who fessed up to doing it. I just got a lucky guess... Who is the moron now? Better yet, don't answer that, we have heard enough of you.

Posted by: Long Time User | October 15, 2008 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Theresa, this is not about a thirteen year old wanting a computer. This is about the article "Don't Buy A Mac Laptop*". Remember, that is why their is a post here.

Posted by: Long Time User | October 15, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Oliver,

What you never learned is that you gave enough information on a public forum to allow people to find your home address and phone number.

Just a piece of advice, never give your full name and what school you go to and what area you live in out to the public. Their are deranged people out in the world.

or

Posted by: Concerned Parent. | October 15, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Cheap shot headline, wasted my time. I have greater expectations from this paper. I won't buy a Mac anyway. They cost too much. Who has the money to waste on technology that's obsolete before they ship it from the factory in China?

Posted by: NYC MIKE | October 15, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, i remember being 13 and getting my first computer. Well, it wasn't exactly mine. It was the only public mainframe on Long Island, and I was sharing it with a few thousand other geeks. I never actually got to see it...I got to put a big black telephone receiver onto a cradle and heard a bunch of beeping. That was about it. But it was fun.

and now I'm a PC.

GB

Posted by: gregb | October 17, 2008 6:33 AM | Report abuse

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