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Eye Opener: Census Worker Found Hanged

By Ed O'Keefe

Eye Opener

Updated 2:19 p.m. ET

A part-time Census Bureau field worker was found hanged in Kentucky Sept. 12 with the word "fed" scrawled across his chest, according to a law enforcement source. Bill Sparkman, 51, who was white, was found at the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky, the Associated Press first reported Wednesday night.

William Sparkman
In this undated 2008 photo, Bill Sparkman speaks to a 7th grade class in Kentucky during a lesson about sound waves. (AP Photo/The Times-Tribune)

The FBI is assisting state and local police with their investigation, the law enforcement source told The Post's Spencer S. Hsu. The source was unsure of the cause of death.

It is a federal crime to attack a federal worker during or because of his federal job.

"It’s a tragedy. Our hearts and our thoughts and prayers go out to the family of this worker," Office of Personnel Management Director John Berry said Thursday morning. He has spoken frequently about the denigration of federal employees.

"I’m going to be closely following this law enforcement action. If this is an attack on a federal employee, I can assure you that no resources will be spared to find the perpetrators," Berry said. "We cannot tolerate essentially domestic terrorism, if that is what this is. But until we understand the law enforcement investigation, we don’t know."

Threats are more common than actual attacks on federal employees, Berry said. He noted that people regularly threaten federal judges and their families, IRS agents and federal law enforcement officers.

"It’s also a reality for many categories of federal workers so we take any threat of violence seriously," he said.

Several Census employees have died in fatal vehicle accidents in the past, and Sparkman's killing is only the second non-vehicle related fatality of a Census worker, according to bureau officials. In June 2000, a pack of dogs attacked and killed temporary Census worker Dorothy Stewart, 71, in Indiana.

Sparkman, an Eagle scout, moved to southeast Kentucky to be a local director for the Boy Scouts of America, his mother told the AP. He most recently served as a substitute teacher in Laurel County and earned extra money as a Census field worker.

The Census Bureau has suspended operations in Clay County, Ky. where the slaying occurred pending the investigation. Hundreds of thousands of temporary workers across the country walk door-to-door conducting various demographic surveys. The Census will hire more than 1 million temporary workers to conduct follow-up interviews for next year's 2010 decennial Census.

“We are deeply saddened by the loss of our co-worker, and our thoughts and prayers are with William Sparkman’s son, other family and friends. We are monitoring the developments closely," Commerce Secretary Gary Locke said in a statement Wednesday night. The Census Bureau is part of the Commerce Department. “Mr. Sparkman was a shining example of the hard-working men and women employed by the Census Bureau. The work they do on a daily basis is not easy but is a great and important service to our nation.” There was no immediate comment from Census Director Robert M. Groves.

The apparent killing of a Census employee comes during an already busy period for the Census Bureau. Groves told a Congressional panel on Tuesday that he fears next year's headcount will be impaired by the recession and continuing concerns about immigration. The agency also recently cut ties to the controversial community organizing group ACORN, one of more than 10,000 civic organizations, churches and corporations recruited to help increase participation in next year's Census.

More on this throughout the day as the story updates.

Leave your thoughts in the comments section below.

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By Ed O'Keefe  | September 24, 2009; 6:10 AM ET
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Comments

First shot fired in the Huckabee civil war incited by Limbaugh hate radio, Mormon Elder Beck and RNC Fox News. These get-rich-by-scaring-and-angering-the-weak-minded sneering shock jocks have the blood of this man on their hands.

Posted by: coloradodog | September 24, 2009 7:05 AM | Report abuse

If true, this is a heinous crime. Such yahoos need to realize that 1) this "Fed" was a local resident working multiple jobs to get by, and 2) killing a federal employee tends to bring the feds down on you even more. Such actions promote undercounts in the Kentucky hills that will only reduce funding and benefits there. People need to learn to separate "the man" from "a man" doing his best to record important information for his community.

Posted by: exdcman | September 24, 2009 7:06 AM | Report abuse

The loss of innocent life is sad whether it happens in Afghanistan or southeast Kentucky. It will be even sadder if we learn that the person who committed this act considers him or her self a "patriot fighting to take back their country."

And, unfortunately, we should probably expect more of this when right wing talk radio and TV is constantly bombarding people with ever more inflammatory statements of hate and vile against our government and anyone who supports it. I never thought I'd live in a third world country where it's "tribe against tribe" but it's starting to look that some days in the U.S.

Posted by: odonnell521 | September 24, 2009 7:12 AM | Report abuse

Must have been white, if he'd been black they would have mentioned that to incite great hue and cry.

Posted by: ronjaboy | September 24, 2009 7:29 AM | Report abuse

This is definitely a sad affair, and my heart goes out to this man's family.
But those of you trying to place the blame on right wing ideologues are being pretty narrow-minded, and I suspect, hypocritical, as well. The fault for this man's death resides with the perpetrators of the crime…nobody else is responsible. And I’m curious…are you are equally outraged at those on your political side of the aisle when false and inflammatory broadcasts incite people to unlawful and/or violent acts?

Posted by: LastBastion | September 24, 2009 7:29 AM | Report abuse

I just wanted to say before some dork-off blames this on Ron Paul - Ron Paul has ALWAYS stated that the grassroots effort against the Federal Reserve, and the Federal Government, be peaceful. This is not in anyway condoned by anyone fighting for liberty.

Posted by: evangrogers | September 24, 2009 7:33 AM | Report abuse

The loss of the census workers life is truly sad. Typical liberal responses, though - let's blame everybody BUT the actual person who committed the crime. Continue to pride yourselves on be being so progressive, so understanding, so tolerant - except when the subject is the "right wing"

Posted by: the_red | September 24, 2009 7:34 AM | Report abuse

Rep. Michelle Bachman has asked her consttituents not to participate in the census and has stated she will not. She also has asked her constutuents to raise up arms against the census takers. This very clearly makes the republicans a domestic terrorist organization as defined in the Patriot Act which was passed by republicans claiming it was to protect America.
The definition encompasses activities that are "dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State" and are intended to "intimidate or coerce a civilian population," "influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion," or are undertaken "to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping" while in the jurisdiction of the United States."
The death of this man was very clearly done to intimidate and coerce a civilian population. Other census workers have been ordered to stop taking the census, thus the terrorism is a success. Rep. Michelle Bachman should be brought up on charges. If not, these terrorists will become even more emboldened.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | September 24, 2009 7:35 AM | Report abuse

Aren't lynchings normal in Kentucky? Is this anymore heinous than the random guy who got shot in DC yesterday? A death is a death.

Posted by: madest | September 24, 2009 7:39 AM | Report abuse

MikeMcNally: "This very clearly makes the republicans a domestic terrorist organization..." No...this would possibly make Michelle Bachman a criminal (though I seriously doubt she meant 'armed and dangerous' is the literal sense). And just to be clear, what she's proposing for the census is that she and her constituents only provide the required information...that is, the number of people in the household...what's wrong with that? But more to your point, tell me, are all Democrats thieves because William Jefferson stole $90,000? Or are they all filanders because Clinton got serviced in the white house? Your logic is so ridiculous it doesn't even rise to the level of merely being wrong!

Posted by: LastBastion | September 24, 2009 7:47 AM | Report abuse

I think next year they'll have to send Census enumerators with a copy of the Constitution so they can show people that it is there.

Posted by: JPHT | September 24, 2009 7:49 AM | Report abuse

I have to agree with 'coloradodog', but only if it turns out to be a killing because he is a government worker. Given the past of the Boy Scouts, it might be something different. He might have abused someone's kid in the Scouts, did somebody's wife, etc... We don't know yet, and let's remember this is the hills of KY.

Posted by: cbenedon | September 24, 2009 7:58 AM | Report abuse

LastBastion:
Using your twisted logic, we should not blame Bin Laden for the attacks on 9/11.
Democrats don't rally around and embrace the ideologies of William Jefferson. We condemn him just as we do people like John Edwards. The republicans on the other hand embrace and magnify all hate speech put forth by their leaders through their propaganda outlets such as Fox, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, etc... This makes them terrorist organization. Period.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | September 24, 2009 7:59 AM | Report abuse

To cbenedon: Or maybe they thought he was a member of ACORN and were offended that he'd be trying to get underage girls into the country to work as prostitutes...your allegations are bafoonish!

Posted by: LastBastion | September 24, 2009 8:03 AM | Report abuse

I say put out a LARGE reward for info and capture. Its probably somebody like Binladen hiding in a hole up in the hills and proclaims he hates the very government that protects his sorry ass from the terrorists that want to come and kill all of us.

Posted by: grampasranch | September 24, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

The latest iteration of domestic terrorism - - tea baggers, so-called "patriots", and libertarians, consist of two elements: unthinking angry white males and women who are under their thumbs AND the wealthy
puppet masters and politicians who stoke the flames of hate and violence for financial and political means. The Michelle Bachmans and Glenn Becks in this country take orders from the puppet masters
who are threatened by a possible shakeup of the status quo. This is a dangerous time for us. Why isn't the FBI throwing these domestic terrorists (from Fox News to unpatriotic senators and congresspeople) into jail?????? Why are tea baggers and town hall crazies allowed to come to meetings with loaded guns????

Posted by: shapiromarilyn | September 24, 2009 8:09 AM | Report abuse

"I never thought I'd live in a third world country where it's 'tribe against tribe'"... -- odonnell521

I too am beginning to worry. It has been my worry since the first Wall Street bailout. There is no more sharing of either the wealth or the loss. Unity of purpose and brotherhood is slipping. The social fabric is tearing and public discourse is flaring. Fewer care for the truth, only yelling the loudest. Fewer care what is right, only getting their way. The tribes are emerging. Common sense is submerging. Too many are deaf to rational urging. And now it has begun. Here comes the purging.

Posted by: Whys | September 24, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

This article is a great example of professional journalism. Well done.

This tragic murder of a federal employee is a symptom of the deep distrust of the federal government that has arisen in the american heartland. Another symptom is the acquisition and hoarding of guns and ammunition. Yesterday's Senate action of pushing through non-emergency Democrat legislation without proper study and deliberation only increases the distrust.

The belief by many in the heartland is that we are now being ruled by both parties, and not represented. Another belief is that the constitution is being ignored or abandoned altogether by our leaders. I pray that people come to their senses and realize that the only civilized and acceptable change occurs through the ballot box. Extremism embraces Tyranny.

Posted by: ice9 | September 24, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse

JPHT, Good idea about bringing along the Constitution. Unfortunately you are basing this suggestion on the underlying assumption that the perpetrators can read. Additionally, as we have seen with the Birthers, no matter how many times you produce a valid document, somehow, it is not quite "official." You could probably bring along the original Constitution from the Library of Congress and it would still be suspect!

Posted by: cowgirlup | September 24, 2009 8:12 AM | Report abuse

MikeMcNally: Do you have a brain? My logic imples the exact opposite. You clearly understand how to put words together, but it appears you don't have a firm grasp on reading comprehension...perhaps a learing annex class? And before you go getting all high and mighty (oops, too late!), not a single one of sources you mention is an elected Republican. I thought you folks on the left were wary of sterotypes and painting people with broad brushes...or is that only when doing so supports your naive and salacious agendas?

Posted by: LastBastion | September 24, 2009 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Every time I watch Fox news I am reminded about how the republican party and their religious and corporate minions celibate hating anything that does not fit their idea of a perfect America.

Posted by: ArchieHaase | September 24, 2009 8:13 AM | Report abuse

You have Chuck Norris now asking the tea baggers to either carry revolutionary flags or modern American flags soaked with tea. If that kind of populist revolutionary rhetoric keeps heating up, with it's wide use of Tree of Liberty, pre French Revolution Jefferson quote, I expect that murderers will start seeing themselves as patriots.

Posted by: Dick_Tuck | September 24, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Tragic. The perp is probably a white uneducated Republican male that listens to Limbaugh, O'Reilly & Hannity.

Posted by: RedDragonLady | September 24, 2009 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Hazardous duty pay for census workers in Red states is probably in order. Those Republicans just don't appreciate gumment workers.

Posted by: Thependulumswings | September 24, 2009 8:20 AM | Report abuse

It looks like some people in the South want to set up their own version of the Swat Valley of Pakistan, the place where the Taliban got to run things for a while.

Pakistan learned soon enough that you can't let religious-fanatic goobers run anything. They sent in the army and cleaned the place out.

So if there is one more murder of a Census worker in the South, I say we leave Afghanistan alone and have the troops take care of our own homegrown terrorist problem once and for all.

Posted by: bigbrother1 | September 24, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

coloradodog is right on, and those of you RWers alternately sneering and whining that 'only the perpetrators are at fault' should be put in the public stocks so citizens could come by and throw rotten fruit at you. Glenn Beck and his ilk will continue to incite this type of violence by giving angry disenfranchised people a validation of their hatred. To act as if this hatred was born and raised in a vacuum is ludicrous. Wherever it was born, it was nurtured in the incubator of 'birthers', racists, and, saddest of all, people who get caught up in the fake unity of 'belonging' to a group or cause. Hatred is a learned skill, it doesn't just pop up randomly. Without the likes of Limbaugh and Bachmann and Beck poking and prodding and lighting fires, these violent criminals wouldn't have their fears and paranoias reaffirmed on a daily basis.
Cry all you want about not ALL being racist, the Right, because none of your major representatives will step up to a mike and say, "If you're racist, I don't want your vote".
Not one. And the racist you tolerate to gain votes is the racist who taints your ENTIRE conservative soup. Get 'em out, or hug them closer, because they're yours, and they're YOU, until you unequivocally reject them publicly and repeatedly.
You reap what you sow, GOP, and you are what you tolerate, tacitly or not. If you don't denounce it, you accept it.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | September 24, 2009 8:23 AM | Report abuse

MikeMcNally: "This very clearly makes the republicans a domestic terrorist organization..."


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If that is true, then the Democrat ACORN Whackjob who shot to death an old man in a wheel chair on oxygen and then went on to murder two others "very clearly makes the Democrats a domestic organization".

We'll play your silly game and raise you another.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | September 24, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

it's an open question at this point whether rightwing hate radio had anything to do with this murder. None of us know whether it did or not. It certainly has the potential to incite murder, you have to be willfully blind not to see that.

Posted by: newageblues | September 24, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

I agree with a comment made by LastBastion at 7:29 this morning: "But those of you trying to place the blame on right wing ideologues are being pretty narrow-minded, and I suspect, hypocritical, as well. The fault for this man's death resides with the perpetrators of the crime…nobody else is responsible."

This was the Lead Story last night on MSNBC's Rachel Maddox show - more important, apparently, than what is going on at the UN.

Rachel Maddox proclaimed this as the first murder in an organized movement by the right wing conservatives to attack and kill federal government employees! She called for an immediate investigation, and said the FBI would not be there if this was not an anti-government HATE CRIME.

I also urge people not to fall into this hole created by the extreme far left.

This was a death. It is too early to rule it a murder. It may have been an insane person who killed himself and left this marking on his chest to create just this type of hysteria fanned for political ideological reasons. He was a white man 51 years old and a single father.

We should mourn his death, but respect his family and not use his body as a rallying cry!

I find it repugnant the far left is using the death of this one man to declare a war based on opposing ideologies.

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN: Cry all you want about not ALL being racist, the Right, because none of your major representatives will step up to a mike and say, "If you're racist, I don't want your vote".
Not one.


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Right back atcha. Not one Racist Democrat on the Left who hates whites will step up to the mike and say "if you hate Caucasians I don't want your vote". Not one.


We'll play your silly game and raise you another.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | September 24, 2009 8:38 AM | Report abuse

I will bet money that when this murdering scum is found they will be avid Fox/Glen Beck watchers.

Posted by: metroman76 | September 24, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Can anyone say "Twana Brawly" type suicide? I wouldn't doubt it.

After all, census takers are not exactly the brightest, most stable productive members of society. They are low dollar desperate for work types.

Census taking is like wearing a sign that says "I'm a friggin loser and this is the only job I can get because nobody will hire a loser like me".

Pretty much sums it up.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | September 24, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

"This tragic murder of a federal employee is a symptom of the deep distrust of the federal government that has arisen in the american heartland."

ice, are you old enough to remember how "Revenuers" were treated by moonshiners in Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, etc.?

This may simply be a case of criminals growing pot or operating a meth lab, and they mistook this individual as a "federal agent". We don't know.

I see people are jumping to conclusions without sufficient information. Why not wait until the facts come out, and then offer your opinion based on reality, not conjecture?

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

this isn't the first shot by the Limbaugh-Hannity-Beck Klan. there's been dozens of attacks this year.

Posted by: vigilance7 | September 24, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Lastbastion,
Look out for filandering bafoons! Argh!
Seriously, though, you are the one with the wrong wrong logic. You see, Willie Jeff and Willie Clinton did not have idealogues like Limbaugh on the air ENCOURAGING AND CONDONING THEIR ACTIONS. As long as Beck can go apes**t on air, screaming and foaming at the mouth that "I want these Communists out of my country!!" (Actual quote, one of thousands that absolutely foment and encourage violent upheaval), there is validation for violent response to government. The Violent Right (remember they proudly proclaim themselves the Angry Mob?) was safely pacified when we had the Worst President of Anything Ever (2000-2008), because he was perceived as 'one of them' (You know, 'a guy you could have a beer with'). But, whoops, those evil liberals snuck a n*****r into the WH. All of a sudden, it's flippin' Apocalypse!! The government is the boogie man, out to rob them of their very whiteness, rape their children, give their house to illegal immigrants, kill their grandmas, burn their Bibles, and force them to go unarmed in public places. All of these fears have been constantly re-affirmed by many on the Right who see the political gain to be had. Again, NOT ONE GOP cadidate has eveer stood up at the podium and said, "If you're a racist, I don't want your vote".
Not one.
As for the constant tit for tat, he said she said...All you Righties who want to make this an "isolated crime", I don't want to hear anymore crying about ACORN...after all, those criminals were isolated criminals, they have nothing to do with the organization they align themselves with, right?
You betcha.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | September 24, 2009 8:57 AM | Report abuse

And just why is The Washington Post downplaying this story? Is it because it does not fit the publisher's required story line?

Posted by: ram9478 | September 24, 2009 9:00 AM | Report abuse

This is obscene beyond belief - our version of a domestic beheading. Rush and Rupert Murdoch cavalierly insist they are defending freedom of speech instead of inciting a mob.


Posted by: jack824 | September 24, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

It is sad that a life was taken. It is also sad that a person has come to the belief that taking of a life is the only way to be heard.
What is more reveling is that too many people are getting like that frog in a pot of water on a stove. The frog that sits in the water until that is cooked. That is what I think is taking place to day. When we come to the point that we cannot do or say (no matter if they are ture) so many things because it is not PC or that it may hurt someones feelings. We have lost so many rights (one of the rights we have lost is being responsible for our own actions).

Posted by: Curly4 | September 24, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

C0rrupt_0_Crats
As usual, when it looks, quacks, and swims like a duck, it's only a duck if it bolsters their ridiculous lies. "Tawana Brawly"?! Are you for real? Go back to blinding yourself with preposterous theories and Confederate fight songs. Everyone here knows you yuk it up about this man's tragic death when you're with your drankin' buddies.
I'm embarrassed for both of us.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | September 24, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Hopefully the person or persons who mudered this man will soon be apprhended and the motive determined.

It comes as no surprise that the initial speculation is that it was carried out by a fanatical right wing waco who believes he is acting in accorance with the GOP party line and is seeking his 15 minutes of fame.

The fact that such speculation abounds is an ominous sign that a dangerous political situation exists and is being made more dangerous every day by the pronouncements of the likes of Limbaugh and Beck aided and abetted by some right wing extremist in Congress.

Posted by: WESHS49 | September 24, 2009 9:07 AM | Report abuse

It has become more than evident that the republicans are unified in their terrorist exploits. Just say the word ACORN and immediately they begin foaming at the mouth and spewing out vicious lies (ACORN got $8.5billion in TARP funds etc...). There is irony invovled when one considers their purpose here. Michelle Bachman doesn't think republicans should participate in the census, and now one of them has murdered a cencus taker in a predominately republican area. The less republicans that show up in the census will net them less representation in Washington, less federal aid for their regions, and will shift representation towards Democratic regions. Even though this gets the republican terrorists message of fear and hate in the media, in the long run they will lose.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | September 24, 2009 9:11 AM | Report abuse

I think it's more likely that Mr. Sparkman stumbled onto somebody's pot farming operation or meth lab.

Posted by: EddietheInfidel | September 24, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: dskiff

Rachel Maddox proclaimed this as the first murder in an organized movement by the right wing conservatives to attack and kill federal government employees! She called for an immediate investigation, and said the FBI would not be there if this was not an anti-government HATE CRIME.
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This is a complete LIE. I saw the Rachel Maddow show and she did NOT say this. You should be ashamed for completely distorting what she said. She even interviewed the PR person from the Justice Dept. to make sure she had summarized correctly. She did NOT proclaim that this was the work of any right wing group.

Posted by: 12345leavemealone | September 24, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

What's with the cap? Didn't the BSA teach him basic manners, i.e. removing hats/caps indoors?

Posted by: TheBoss2 | September 24, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Damned Gentlemen...

I am nursing a flu and I don't have the energy to respond to Lastbastian and the other sad little anti-socials here.

I wish I could just ignore them but for every Lastbastian there are hundreds who don't even have the b***s to anonymously post their pathetic opinions - but who are in constant validation of their own anger.

Having said that - I hope law enforcement can crack this case ASAP. As the RW loves to JUMP to convenient conclusions that fit their mis-logic - I am with-holding my own assumptions on Mr. Sparkman's death. But if it turns out it was politically motivated? I guarantee I will be back to unleash my wrath. (Flu and all)

Posted by: MollieKaye | September 24, 2009 9:36 AM | Report abuse

I have recently -- and regrettably -- been subjected to a steady diet of right-wing talk radio during a road-trip through our Southern states. It was shocking: hate-inciting big-lie propaganda of the worst kind. It was like being in a different country, a country about to descend into civil war or Rwanda-style genocide.

Posted by: DupontJay | September 24, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

I agree with coloradodog and feel, for me, its time to boycott the sponsors of Fox (http://foxnewsboycott.com) and other unAmerican entertainers spreading unfounded fear to make money. I've been waiting for their hatred and skewed "news" to abate, but it is only intensifying and now it seems with deadly results. On the way to work the news reported gun shops are running out of ammunition of all sorts. People are stocking up, the level of fear in this country is at an all time high with little to support the fear except what is coming out of Fox and other right wing entertainment. I've never boycotted anything before but IMHO Fox has crossed the line too many times and leave me no choice.

Posted by: Fate1 | September 24, 2009 9:40 AM | Report abuse

12345leavemealone, my characterization is accurate.

Not only did she insinuate it was the work of a right wing person or persons, but characterized it as a potential beginning of an all-out attack on the federal government. I was shocked!

But I'm not going to get into an argument. I know what I saw and heard.

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Are you paying attention, Glenn Beck and Limbaugh?

It appears you have blood on your hands. We're following this story very closely.

Posted by: larrybuchas | September 24, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

JPHT, Good idea about bringing along the Constitution. Unfortunately you are basing this suggestion on the underlying assumption that the perpetrators can read. Additionally, as we have seen with the Birthers, no matter how many times you produce a valid document, somehow, it is not quite "official." You could probably bring along the original Constitution from the Library of Congress and it would still be suspect!

Posted by: cowgirlup | September 24, 2009 8:12 AM | Report abuse
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It would be suspect since the original is in the National Archives.

Posted by: EliPeyton | September 24, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Here's another idea. For people who don't like federal workers, give them the option of not getting counted in the Census. When they realize it affects federal aid, and their representation in Congress, they might change their minds.

Posted by: JPHT | September 24, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

The simple-minded sheep of the Right Wing strikes again.

Posted by: jckdoors | September 24, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"And just why is The Washington Post downplaying this story? Is it because it does not fit the publisher's required story line?"

Posted by: ram9478
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The death of one man would not be news at all were it not for the allegation he had "FED" on his chest. THAT made it fodder for political ideologues.

It is unfortunate when any life is cut short. Rather than focusing on this individual, I'm surprised the Washington Post and other newspapers don't cover Americans being wounded and killed in Afghanistan and Iraq in more detail.

I don't care about gun violence and drunk drivers in the United States anymore because there doesn't seem to be a way to stop it and the deaths they produce.

But we can stop the wars and bring our brave military personnel home. Why don't newspapers support that effort?

This guy is a non-story. Whoever allegedly wrote "Fed" got what they wanted - to manipulate the media and stir up anger. Don't let them win.

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 9:54 AM | Report abuse

I wonder how many on the right think the murderer is a gay liberal. These are the people the right wing fears the most yet I doubt anyone would consider a gay liberal could possibly do this to another person. The right wingers know those of like mind are capable of this yet they act like victims of oppression.

Posted by: Fate1 | September 24, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I see you loony fringe libs are trying to pin this on right wing radio. That's a laugh, like saying Americans are racist if they dislike Obama. Consider pretty boy Schwenkler, a vandal paid by Democrats to vandalize the Democratic Party headquarters in Denver, Co.

Posted by: Superpower | September 24, 2009 9:58 AM | Report abuse

I won't jump to any conclusions, but people have to understand that not every constituent in either party is working with a full deck of cards.

If this does turn out to be politically motivated then the Michelle Bachman's and Limbaugh's of the world need to take a step back and realize not everyone they preach to has the common sense to not take them literally.

I have to agree with Archiehaase.

I also am reminded everytime I listen to Fox news or Right wing radio about how the republican party and their religious minions celebrate hating anything that does not fit their idea of a perfect America.

The scary thing is that despite possibly being educated fairly well, both extreme Democrats or Republicans can be some of the most ignorant people I have ever come across.

The rhetoric coming from the right does definetly need to be toned down...if this was a crime against a man because he was a federal worker.

Posted by: dave0325 | September 24, 2009 9:59 AM | Report abuse

First shot fired in the Huckabee civil war incited by Limbaugh hate radio,
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Oh?

And what would that be "When Retards Attack?"

Haven't we already lived this since, oh when Hitler lost?

Posted by: thegreatpotatospamof2003 | September 24, 2009 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Rural Kentucky? The National Forest? Sounds like he may have accidentally stumbled across somebody's marijuana plantation....

Posted by: mavisdarling | September 24, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

I hate it that there are crazy murderous people out there. However, that is no excuse to go blaming this or that political figure or news commentator. Did anyone say "hey everyone, go out and kill feds?" If so, go blame them, if not, keep your prejudices to yourself and keep the discussion to the actual topic at hand.

Posted by: sam38 | September 24, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: MikeMcNally
"Rep. Michelle Bachman has asked her consttituents not to participate in the census and has stated she will not. She also has asked her constutuents to raise up arms against the census takers."

If this is true, Bachman is guilty of sedition.

Posted by: plaza04433 | September 24, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

12345leavemealone, the difference in our perception of what was said on Rachel Maddox's show last night can easily be settled.

MSNBC provides transcripts of the show a couple of days after it airs. For a transcript of last night's show, try this website Friday or Saturday:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32390088/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/

This should clarify and misperceptions on my part or yours.

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse

The killers are probably some snackle-tooth inbreds, guitar-pluckering, banjo-picking retards.

Posted by: demtse | September 24, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

DAMNEDGENTLEMEN: Was a little difficult to find your point through all the mud and sterotypyes you were flinging in your rant, but I think I got the gist, so let me synopsize for those who may have missed it: If you agree with the general direction of the current government then you must be a good person and beyond reproach. If you don't, you're a racist, murderer...that about right?

Also, have you ever listened to left-wing radio (Bernie McCain, Thom Hartman, Rachel Maddow?) If not, do so and please come back and explain how it is any less vitriolic and full of lies than right-winged radio? Those folks are completely in the bag for the Dems...their only problem is they don't have same ratings...so its just intellectually dishonest to claim the Jefferson and Clinton don't have their own shills...heck MSNBC, CNN, ABC news, etc are essentially the media wing of the Democratic party!

And finally, as someone mentioned earlier, please point out even one Democrat who's said, "Don't vote for me if you're a (fill in your own stereotypye)."

Posted by: LastBastion | September 24, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse


C0rrupt_0_Crats: Shame on you for insulting someone who has just been innocently murdered. Let's hope none of his family members sees your heartless, cruel, hurtful comment. Go get a job and shut up.

Posted by: Think8 | September 24, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

MollieKaye: I'm the one with an anger problem? Really?? You know nothing about me yet you blast out the same old play out of the same old tired playbook...can't argue the message so you just denegrate the messenger. It's you, madam, who is sad and little.

But hey, hope you feel better soon...would hate to think we weren't getting your best effort when you '...unleash your wrath'...so purely pathetic...thanks for the laugh!

Posted by: LastBastion | September 24, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

demtse wrote: "The killers are probably some snackle-tooth inbreds, guitar-pluckering, banjo-picking retards."

Who listen to Fox News and vote.

Posted by: Fate1 | September 24, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Keep fighting you ignorant lemmings.
Left Wing and Right Wing, you both are worthy only of a slave labor camp (Which is where you are headed.)
How about waking up and realizing you are being played for the fool.

The greedopaths are winning and you are fighting like retarded children, beating each other with the sticks they give you.
By your actions you ensure the greedy psychopaths in power will keep stealing everything you have.

Posted by: Chad1 | September 24, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Fox, Rush and Glen have all declared war on the Federal government. Their hero Ronnie Raygun (Government is the problem) turned the business friendly Republican Party to an extremist right-wing evangelical anti-government (starve it, kill it) party. Anti-tax, anti-regulation, and anti-union. He got rid of the fairness doctrine that allowed Fox to operate as the propaganda organ of the Republican party. "Patriots"? "Real Americans"? They're fascist thugs.

Is it open season on The Feds?

Posted by: thebobbob | September 24, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

"I also am reminded everytime I listen to Fox news or Right wing radio about how the republican party and their religious minions celebrate hating anything that does not fit their idea of a perfect America.

The scary thing is that despite possibly being educated fairly well, both extreme Democrats or Republicans can be some of the most ignorant people I have ever come across.

Posted by: dave0325"

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dave, I've never listened to right wing radio. For that matter, I don't listen to the radio.

If Fox News bothers you, avoid it. I don't watch Fox News because I find the ranting tiresome. But I also find some of the people on CNN and MSNBC tiresome in THEIR rantings, so I avoid them as well.

I agree there are intelligent and informed people all across the political spectrum, and having liberal or conservative views does not make a person good or bad, bright or stupid, peaceful or violent.

We should remember what the president said when he was elected. We are ALL Americans.

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

Interesting, no comments about:
"Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, would force civil servants to leave the Federal Employees Health Benefits Program and purchase insurance through the state-based health exchanges that are a centerpiece of the health reform bill. Employees would move to the exchanges beginning in 2013.

The idea behind the amendment is "to require that elected officials and federal employees purchase insurance in the same manner proposed in the [bill] for private citizens," according to a summary on the Finance Committee's Web site."

I bet if this happens it will not include congress or their staffers.

Posted by: knjincvc | September 24, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

demtse wrote: "The killers are probably some snackle-tooth inbreds, guitar-pluckering, banjo-picking retards."

Who listen to Fox News and vote.
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yeah, Fox News via pirated satellite, but vote? I doubt it, since most can't read their own names.

Posted by: demtse | September 24, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Astounding! Rhetoric from the left and the right reaches new lows every day. Many of the above posts hint at the hearts and minds of beligerants so hubric to believe that a 'true American' perspective lies only with them.

I think we're missing something - reason.

Posted by: PostByJim | September 24, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Fox News, Gleen Beck,Limbaugh and the rest of the extreme right are as guity of this crime as ther individuals who committed the act!!!!

Individuals who are unstable actullay believe the garbage these extremists put out....

FOX NEWS, BECK, LIMBAUGH PREACH HATE AND FEAR WHICH ARE BOTH UNAMERICAN AND UNCHRISTIAN!!!!

Posted by: WVUWEIRTON | September 24, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

“No wonder people right now who are gun owners are purchasing weapons and are purchasing ammunition.”

“I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous…”

“Thomas Jefferson told us, having a revolution every now and then is a good thing, and the people — we the people — are going to have to fight back hard if we’re not going to lose our country.”

Rep. Michele Bachmann is not the only person saying she won’t fill out the full U.S. Census.


The connection couldn't get much clearer.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | September 24, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

"Did anyone say "hey everyone, go out and kill feds?" If so, go blame them, if not, keep your prejudices to yourself and keep the discussion to the actual topic at hand.

Posted by: sam38"
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sam, in my opinion, the topic of murder and violence was first introduced by Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) in a tearful reminiscence on the murders of Harvey Milk and George Misconi. She referred to being in San Francisco when the violence occurred in the late 70's based on their political beliefs (without naming Harvey and George).

But it was clear she was introducing the threat of physical violence into the political discussions. Before that, nobody had spoken out loud what many fear.

Heck, I'm so old I remember the three civil rights workers whose bodies were found in Philadelphia, MS!

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Coloradodog writes: "First shot fired in the Huckabee civil war incited by Limbaugh hate radio, Mormon Elder Beck and RNC Fox News. These get-rich-by-scaring-and-angering-the-weak-minded sneering shock jocks have the blood of this man on their hands."

Really? Then do Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, and Keith Olbermann have the blood of an anti-abortion protester and a U.S. Army recruiter in Little Rock on THEIR hands?

Posted by: bmmg39 | September 24, 2009 11:10 AM | Report abuse

LastBastion wrote:

"Also, have you ever listened to left-wing radio (Bernie McCain, Thom Hartman, Rachel Maddow?) If not, do so and please come back and explain how it is any less vitriolic and full of lies than right-winged radio?"

Name one lie Hartmann, Maddow, or McCain has said. You can't because they tell the truth. It would be mindless however to print the lies Limbaugh, Fox, Hannity, etc... tell in a day because it would include their entire broadcast. republicans don't listen to the truth because they prefer to wallow in a cesspool of lies where there's fear and hate around every corner and they are the poor victims who must fight back against their imaginary enemies. Their corporate masters know they can easily control the fearful, so they keep them scared 24/7. These people were cowards by any definition when they allowed Bush to take away our Bill of Rights just by raising the terror level to ORANGE. The GOP has completely lost any credibility, and would be a joke if it wasn't for the fact they're running around America killing people.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | September 24, 2009 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Corrupto whatever: that was quite the scummy post you left at 8:43AM. Not helping your side at all with such vile filth.

Posted by: newageblues | September 24, 2009 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Wait. You mean there are actually OTHER people here unhinged enough to blame this brutal murder on conservative radio? Is there ANY tragedy you won't exploit for your left-wing agenda?

Posted by: bmmg39 | September 24, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

There should be no question that the incendiary language coming from folks like Limbo, Beck and Bachmann COULD incite an unstable person to commit murder. That's a chance they are willfully taking, that they will be morally, if not legally, guilty of incitement to murder.

Posted by: newageblues | September 24, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I suspect that this guy was killed by some right-wing nut job who was, and is, indeed encouraged in his maniacal thinking by the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, et.al.

These people just pander to the paranoid and pissed off people in this country. They prey on their emotions, inciting people to hatred, judgement of and contempt for others, and in some cases, individual and/or even mob violence.

They make their living preying off people who are gullible, who tend to believe what the "authority figures" in their lives say, without question. Therefore, people like right wing radio hosts feel free to distort the truth and mistate the facts, because they profit from it financially.

And for some reason, they have a particular appeal to people who just love to hate. For whatever reason. (For those of you True Blood fans, it's the same thing Hoyt accused his mama of - that she just loved to hate. Loved to find fault with everything and everyone.)

However, it could be, since this is rural southeast Kentucky, that the census worker saw or heard something he shouldn't have - or at least, someone thought he did.

Obviously, the word "FED" scrawled across his chest is a "message" to Feds to "stay out of our business. Leave us alone."

I don't know which is scarier.

I'm sure the FBI have already done a psychological profile on the killer. Someone who either hates the federal government (and by extension, their representatives, regardless of their position), or someone who has something - or someone - to hide. Pot grower? Kidnapper? Caught in the middle of a crime?

Could be it's just some paranoid nut job, or perhaps a schizophrenic, which would also be logical, who thought the federal government sent someone to spy on him - or her. These days, you never know.

Either way, it's a shame. This poor guy was just trying to make ends meet. He wasn't even a "lifer" in the federal government. He was just a temporary worker. Just some average guy.

I hope they find the person responsible as asap. This person is likely to kill again - whether another government worker or someone else.

Posted by: kentuckywoman | September 24, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Obama politicized the Census.

One of the first things he did when he took the throne in January was to give control of the Census Bureau to Rahm Emanuel.

The Census needs to be non-partisan. Letting a political operative run the Bureau is counter to that goal. Inevitably, Obama's action will lead to lower participation and higher cost for the 2010 decennial Census.

Second, the plan to have ACORN staff the Census clearly pointed out how the Bureau was to be used as a political tool.

Obama and his gang are responsible for the inevitable fallout from their manipulation of the Census.

Posted by: TruData | September 24, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

When William Ayers commits and promotes violence, the Left would find tremendous justification for it.

When Jeremiah Wright preaches hatred to his flock for decades, he gets a pass, and one of his parishioners gets elected President.

Posted by: TruData | September 24, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse


dskiff said: "I find it repugnant the far left is using the death of this one man to declare a war based on opposing ideologies."

first off, it is clear that dskiff, C0rrupt_0_Crats, and their brethren have already decided that this individual paid the price for associating with their perceived enemy, the duly elected President and Congress of this country.
My complete distaste for GWB never made me consider open rebellion against my country, and further, never encouraged me to INCITE IT repeatedly, relentlessy, without fail, day in and day out.
It doesn't matter to them if they drag a white supremacist in full KKK regalia out of the woods of KY. with DNA matched blood on his hands, they will claim it is a liberal plot to defame them.
Lie, Deny, Defy...This is the Right Wing motto.
I am by no means "far left", but I long ago declared ideological warfare (of the non-violent, discourse-based type) against those who would lie and distort and twist everything and everyone to accomplish their tyrannical goals. For people who scream about freedom so much, they sure do want to deprive a large segment of Americans (Gays, Non-Christians, single mothers, intellectuals, minorities, etc. etc.) of theirs.
Global warming is not a hoax.
Healthcare Reform will not kill your granny.
Regulation of financial institutions is not Socialism.
The President was born in America.

This is the truth. Only fanatics believe otherwise.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | September 24, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

bmmg39 actually wrote: "Really? Then do Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, and Keith Olbermann have the blood of an anti-abortion protester and a U.S. Army recruiter in Little Rock on THEIR hands?"

No since neither incited either incident. The anti-abortion protestor was killed by a deranged man who was on a shooting rampage and later killed another person unrelated to the protest. The killing in Little Rock was by a muslim man upset with the military over the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan. Hardly raging liberals out to win back America.

Posted by: Fate1 | September 24, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Good thing for all the god-fearing, gun toting - and now knife carving - conservative christian folks in Kentucky. Where red neck is king and inbreding is queen...and Republicans roost.


Posted by: ScottChallenger | September 24, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Of course Mr. Beck's defense is: "I'm just an "info-tainer".

Murderer.

Posted by: jfern03 | September 24, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Obama put the knife in the perps hand and goaded him into plunging it into the worker's chest.

Posted by: TruData | September 24, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Maybe whoever did this can get a teaching position at the University of Illinois at Chicago, just like William Ayers.

Posted by: TruData | September 24, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Is there ANY tragedy you won't exploit for your left-wing agenda?
Posted by: bmmg39
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Is there ANY tragedy you won't lie about and twist until it seems the victim was the criminal?
As if the assertions herein that this man may have killed himself, 'Tawana Brawly' like, were anything but the raving of a sick P.O.S. trying desperately to deflect suspicion away from the 800 lb. gorilla of Right Wing vitriol and violence in the room.

Props, Mike, for the back up. And Mollie, you're welcome, and get well.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | September 24, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

First shot fired in the Huckabee civil war incited by Limbaugh hate radio, Mormon Elder Beck and RNC Fox News. These get-rich-by-scaring-and-angering-the-weak-minded sneering shock jocks have the blood of this man on their hands.

LOL, Sorry m0r0n but each of us is responsible for our self's. You may be some weak pathetic POS that blindly follows others but 90% of the US isn't. If this is all you have to say then do the rest of us a favor and go away.

Posted by: askgees | September 24, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse

The right wing extremists like Michele Bacmann OWN this murder! I love how all of you tea-baggers are throwing your hands up and saying this is an isolated murder... you have blood on your hands! SHAME ON YOU ALL.

Posted by: clintatl | September 24, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

It probably was some ACORN employees who were angry that they didn't get the Census jobs promised by Rahm Emanuel.

Posted by: TruData | September 24, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

MikeMcNally: Wow! Don't really know where to begin. You are so fully over the top with your anger and hatred you couldn't see or hear the truth if it bit you in the keaster! All you're doing with your broad brush is perpetuating the same vitriole you're so fond of blaming only on the right wing. And the best part is you're so consumed (or stupid) that you don't even see your own hypocricy...So typical, sooooo priceless...I am LMAO at you...a sad and small mind looking to blame the bogey man for all your ills. Does your mommy know you're on the computer?

Posted by: LastBastion | September 24, 2009 11:55 AM | Report abuse

"The right wing extremists like Michele Bacmann OWN this murder! I love how all of you tea-baggers are throwing your hands up and saying this is an isolated murder... you have blood on your hands! SHAME ON YOU ALL.

Posted by: clintatl"

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Perhaps we should wait for the FBI to complete their investigation and a cause of death is determined. Hopefully if there was a murder, there will be an arrest, and we will learn what the motive was. Many murders in national parks ARE drug related!

I would find it unfortunate for people to later discover this had nothing to do with politics, and all the hateful messages from both extremes were unnecessary and without any merit.

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

"Consider pretty boy Schwenkler, a vandal paid by Democrats to vandalize the Democratic Party headquarters"...blah blah blah.
-A Right Wing holocaust denier kills a guard at the Holocaust museum:
-A Right Wing Pro-Lifer (note the irony there) kills a doctor who saves lives performing medically necessary abortions:
-A Right Wing Nut kills an ANTI-ABORTION demonstrator (because even their own are not off limits when the rage takes over completely) because he dissaproves of the kids seeing his signs:
-And now this episode.

And your response is a guy who spray painted some signs?
Pathetic.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | September 24, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Last Bastion, here is the simple, logical point. Liberals have not publicly encouraged people to see theft and philandering as the right thing to do. You would have a point if this were still the 60s, when liberals encouraged lawlessness - and were rightly taken to task for it when people took it too far. The shoe is on the other foot, now. Radical right-wingers who seek to undermine the lawfully elected American government by encouraging lawlessness deserve the same condemnation. Go win elections. That's how it's done in America.

Note, too, that liberals like King practiced open civil disobedience: they did not hide their entirely non-violent "crimes"; they accepted their punishment as part of how it was illustrated that the law was wrong. Conservatives might well try the same thing with the census, but I'd imagine they will be more likely to be objects of ridicule for the silliness of it than heroes of the counterrevolution.

Posted by: NomoStew | September 24, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

The blood on the hands belongs to the murderer alone, you have to have a certain level of depravity to commit such an act. The Glen Becks or Keith Olbermanns of cable TV offer nothing but fuel for their political factions but I do not believe they inspire depravity.

Carving FED on the deceased man's chest is the act of an angry coward, if either side uses this murder as political fodder to advance a view they are hurting the nation while increasing their influence/wealth. Justice dictates we find the person(s) responsible, bring them to public viewing, then hold them accountable. Haranguing, speculation, and opinion on cable TV do nothing but push set agendas.

Are Americans motivated by courage or fear? This poor man did not have enough fear and died in service to us ALL. In my opinion he died with more courage than the coward(s) that took his life could ever muster. The people of Clay County KY would do the nation a great service if they exposed the murder(s) and have the courage to speak against such acts. This is 2009, the "revenuer" is just as much a federal employee as the solider, sailor, airman, or marine. What type of America do we have if we allow people in any region to kill those who serve us ALL in order to protect their regional "way of life"?

Posted by: williepete3 | September 24, 2009 12:05 PM | Report abuse

LastBastion,

Wasn't it Republican MICHELLE BACHMANN who, not so long ago, suggested that the Federal Government had some nefarious reason for conducting the census, said she was not going to cooperate with it and urged others to do the same?

Posted by: southerntransplant | September 24, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

"I never thought I'd live in a third world country where it's 'tribe against tribe'"... -- odonnell521

I too am beginning to worry. It has been my worry since the first Wall Street bailout. There is no more sharing of either the wealth or the loss. Unity of purpose and brotherhood is slipping. The social fabric is tearing and public discourse is flaring. Fewer care for the truth, only yelling the loudest. Fewer care what is right, only getting their way. The tribes are emerging. Common sense is submerging. Too many are deaf to rational urging. And now it has begun. Here comes the purging.

Posted by: Whys | September 24, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse
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OMG!!! The sky is falling!

Quick, move to Canada! You'll be safe there, and the rest of us won't have to listen to your neurotic whining.

Goodbye!

Posted by: ZZim | September 24, 2009 12:08 PM | Report abuse

OK, let's see if I can respond to your stupid assertion about Dem candidates...
"If you're a corporate thief, don't...oh wait, they already don't vote Dem
"If you think global warming is a hoax, don't vote for m...oh, wait, they're all Righties, too.
"If you think giving every American access to basic healthcare is wrong, don't vote...oh, they're all GOP too.
"If you think it's ok to violently respond when you don't get your petty wishes, don't...uh, hmmm....

Not as easy as it sounds...and I ain't even a Dem. But when you go off the deep end, following pipers like Bachmann and Palin and Beck, you leave me little recourse on whom to side with.
I bet more Americans come to that same conclusion every day.

also: askgees said:
"...You may be some weak pathetic POS that blindly follows others but 90% of the US isn't..."
Aahahahahahahahahahahaha! Good one, FOX "news" lover, good one.
Oh, wait, maybe the FOX "news" followers equate to 10% of the US...that'd work out just about right, then. My bad.

Posted by: DAMNEDGENTLEMEN | September 24, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

In Germany it is a criminal offence to insight hatred against any nationality or group. Calling for the murder of others, though it does not amount to conspiracy, is a crime that can land someone in jail, just as a denial of the holocaust can.

The death of Bill Sparkman certainly looks like a murder, otherwise the FBI would not be so likely to be investigating. The writing of the word "FED" across his chest makes it seem suspiciously like a lynch murder.

Perhaps some of the more rabid tea-baggers will pause to think about the consequences of their blood-lust.

CB in Hamburg

Posted by: chrisbrown12 | September 24, 2009 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Being born and raised in the immediate area, I was neither shocked nor surprised to read the article. Clay county is in the eastern Kentucky coal fields and has a long history, extending up to the late forties, of violence caused by company thugs killing union organizers, all being from outside the area. Southeastern Kentucky is famous for its attitude toward “revenuers” which has been augmented by the fact that the area is now a prime maker of meth and grower of pot. In addition, the Southern Poverty Law Center indicates that some of the most dangerous hate groups have influence in Kentucky as a whole. No matter what the direct influence causing the tragedy is, it stems from exploitation of the area by outsiders, persistent ignorance of the citizens and the smugness of the people whose attitude towards progress, education or civil responsibility has not changed one bit in the 75 years I have been observing it. It would not surprise me that when and if the perpetrators are discovered, they, themselves, wouldl not have a firm grasp of why they did the act.

Posted by: kycol2 | September 24, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

The bloodletting has begun! You reap what you sow, friends... This is thy we must speak out against the vile and the contemptuous wherever we hear or see it. Lest not forget the government of the United States is by the people, that means you and me. There is no "other." If you want to really fight your oppressors, fight the banks and insurance companies that are manipulating our politicians and our economy to suit their desire for world domination. Protect our Democracy and we all can rise up against this tyranny, together. Rise up against the Politicians of all stripes and exposed their true motives whenever possible. Support the people who are trying to make a difference without incitement or cruelty. Buck this trend and we can buck the system, truly.

Posted by: SlaveCo | September 24, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

"Liberals have not publicly encouraged people to see theft and philandering as the right thing to do. You would have a point if this were still the 60s, when liberals encouraged lawlessness - and were rightly taken to task for it when people took it too far.

The shoe is on the other foot, now. Radical right-wingers who seek to undermine the lawfully elected American government by encouraging lawlessness deserve the same condemnation."

Posted by: NomoStew"
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NoMo, thanks for the smile. I agree with what you've written, but with one slight difference.

This is from CNN: "As the city of Pittsburgh hosts the G-20 summit the community braces for the inevitable protests that will ensue. In Shadyside, an upscale neighborhood near Carnegie Mellon University and University of Pittsburgh shop windows are boarded up as store owners prepare for potential trouble.

The mood is tense; the streets are flooded with police and private security (seen on nearly every corner, in every shop and down every alley). Shop owners and residence alike aren’t sure just what to do. Should they stay or should they leave the area? Rumor is there is a ‘hit list’ of sorts which lists which shops will be targeted.

Earlier this week as fireman were doing drills in preparation for the events they directly told me I should leave the area this weekend. In fact, a good portion of the local residence (mainly graduate students) has opted to vacate the area for a long weekend (most classes have been cancelled).

Per Wikipedia protesters will be rallying for issues such as: peace, the environment, labor and social justice organizations. Today Resistance Project is said to be holding a march and a day of direct action. Tomorrow, there is to be a Peoples' March and rally in downtown Pittsburgh."

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Now the question is rhetorical, but do you think most of these protesters who go from World Bank/IMF meeting to G-8/20 meetings to protest in the streets, and break a few windows and trash the city in the process, are these unhappy Republicans, or are they just the 2009 version of us in the 60's? Liberal protesters angry at "The System".

Who are these "Act Up" people?

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

dskiff: murders related to marijuana growing in the national parks and forests still have everything to do with politics. Marijuana prohibition is a hyper-political decision having nothing to do with a rational assessment of its dangers vs. alcohol. If you don't allow people to include marijuana in their home gardens, then we can get used to being afraid to wander in national parks and forests and to have to watch God's country be trashed by commercial grow ops. All so that drug war fanatics can keep trying, for example, to force pregnant woman and mean/reckless drunks to use alcohol, even if they would prefer to use marijuana, and so the cartels and their corrupto allies can become more powerful, and so public finances can hit rock bottom, and so people don't get the best medicine available and potential crucial research hasn't been done, and so that drug educators are forced to lie about alcohol vs. cannabis or admit that the law is a donkey.
To anyone who cares about honor, know that under alcohol supremacism over cannabis, our fidelity to the pledge of liberty and justice for all lies in ruins in the gutter. End of rant.

Back to rightwing vs. leftwing talk show hosts: I don't listen to either side on talk radio, but I would be very surprised if leftwing hosts make the same kind of veiled or not so veiled threats that some rightwing types do. What are the most inflammatory comments leftwing talk show hosts have made? Let's hear some quotes.

Posted by: newageblues | September 24, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

NomoStew: Really? They haven't? Pull your head out of the sand! Have you ever SEEN the aftermath of the protests following a World Bank meeting? I guess those were all GOP plants, huh?

Why is it so hard for liberals to admit their side isn't perfect? I'll say it of the right...there are some serious whack jobs, but 99% are hard working folks who have a particular political persuasion...the same is true of the left...it's wing nuts like you who can't see the flaws in your own ideology who foster the kind of violence you seemingly (heavy sarcasm there) decry here today!

Posted by: LastBastion | September 24, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Being born and raised in the immediate area, I was neither shocked nor surprised to read the article. Clay county is in the eastern Kentucky coal fields and has a long history, extending up to the late forties, of violence caused by company thugs killing union organizers, all being from outside the area. Southeastern Kentucky is famous for its attitude toward “revenuers” which has been augmented by the fact that the area is now a prime maker of meth and grower of pot. In addition, the Southern Poverty Law Center indicates that some of the most dangerous hate groups have influence in Kentucky as a whole. No matter what the direct influence causing the tragedy is, it stems from exploitation of the area by outsiders, persistent ignorance of the citizens and the smugness of the people whose attitude towards progress, education or civil responsibility has not changed one bit in the 75 years I have been observing it. It would not surprise me that when and if the perpetrators are discovered, they, themselves, would not have a firm grasp of why they did the act.

Posted by: kycol2
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This is the best post yet on the subject, IMO.

Thank you, kycol2!

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

dskiff: murders related to marijuana growing in the national parks and forests still have everything to do with politics. Marijuana prohibition is a hyper-political decision having nothing to do with a rational assessment of its dangers vs. alcohol. If you don't allow people to include marijuana in their home gardens, then we can get used to being afraid to wander in national parks and forests and to have to watch God's country be trashed by commercial grow ops.

To anyone who cares about honor, know that under alcohol supremacism over cannabis, our fidelity to the pledge of liberty and justice for all lies in ruins in the gutter. End of rant.

Back to rightwing vs. leftwing talk show hosts: I don't listen to either side on talk radio, but I would be very surprised if leftwing hosts make the same kind of veiled or not so veiled threats that some rightwing types do. What are the most inflammatory comments leftwing talk show hosts have made? Let's hear some quotes.

Posted by: newageblues

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I'm a toker from way back, and if it wasn't so incredibly expensive now (over $300 for an ounce), I'd still be firing up the old bong. I am in total agreement this country would be much better off with pot and without alcohol!

I also agree it is unsafe to go into national parks and forests because of the growers. But from what I've read and seen on television, the vast majority of growers in the United States are not people like you or me, but organized criminals who set traps for law enforcement, including shotguns. Marijuana production in parks is not like the old days when we grew 30 plants for our friends and family - it's a huge business with major money involved!

"What are the most inflammatory comments leftwing talk show hosts have made?"?

I don't know. I don't watch or listen enough to remember. I watch the first 5 minutes to see if anything major has happened, then turn it off. I find 90% of both sides too extreme to be informative or enjoyable, so I stick with live concert DVD's for television viewing.

I'd rather sing along with the Eagles than listen to hate. (I wish I could afford a doobie...)

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

Kycol2,

U sound like a solid citizen; gr8 comment.

Posted by: williepete3 | September 24, 2009 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Clay County Kentucky. I'm not surprised. My Dad's family is from Clay County - I still have distant cousins there, though I don't know them.

The Hatfield-McCoy feud may be a lot more famous, but the deadliest feud in US History, by far, was the Baker-Howard feud, centered in Clay County.

I've been to Clay County. The place and the people are F'd up.

Posted by: jeadpt | September 24, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Updated from the AP 30 minutes ago:

"WASHINGTON - When Bill Sparkman told retired trooper Gilbert Acciardo that he was going door-to-door collecting census data in rural Kentucky, the former cop drew on years of experience for a warning: "Be careful."

"Even though he was with the Census Bureau, sometimes people can view someone with any government agency as 'the government.' I just was afraid that he might meet the wrong character along the way up there," said Acciardo, who directs an after-school program at an elementary school where Sparkman was a frequent substitute teacher.

Manchester Police Chief Jeff Culver, whose agency is not part of the investigation because the death was outside city limits, said the area where Sparkman was found has a history of problems with prescription drug and methamphetamine trading.

"That part of the county, it has its ups and downs. We'll get a lot of complaints of drug activity. They'll whittle away, then flourish back up," Culver said. He said officers last month rounded up 40 drug suspects, mostly dealers, and made several more arrests in subsequent days."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32991672/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

As more information comes out, it sure looks less and less like it is in any way related to any political agenda, and more and more like it is drug related or just the general anti-government feelings historical to that area.

CNN isn't even running the story today!

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 1:11 PM | Report abuse

LOL, Sorry m0r0n but each of us is responsible for our self's. You may be some weak pathetic POS that blindly follows others but 90% of the US isn't. If this is all you have to say then do the rest of us a favor and go away.

Posted by: askgees | September 24, 2009 11:49 AM | Report abuse


Yes. All of those rugged individualists who call themselves "dittoheads."

Posted by: js_edit | September 24, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

DEMTSE wrote:
The killers are probably some snackle-tooth inbreds, guitar-pluckering, banjo-picking retards.
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Yep!
That's it!
Snackle-pluckering retards!

Posted by: Tomcat3 | September 24, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Just found where Sarah Palin is scheduled to make a speaking tour of the bible belt soon. If she's using her same political character assasination techniques, I don't think she's going down there to calm any fears.
Someone said it's easier to scare people than to educate them. Is this really a good strategy or is this all the right has left.

Posted by: Sports11 | September 24, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse


I'm not jumping to any conclusion this is a political murder. That part of the country has historically had a hard time with the FBI, IRS, revenuers, alcohol, drugs, you name it.

But on the other hand, don't you think someone like Michelle Bachmann--who placed her hand on a Holy Bible and SWORE to uphold the laws of this country and obey the Constitution--shouldn't she ratchet down her hatred of the Federal Government and its Employees just a teeny bit?

Because when stuff like this happens, I want to ask Michelle Bachmann what she thinks.

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | September 24, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

dskiff wrote: "12345leavemealone, the difference in our perception of what was said on Rachel Maddox's show last night can easily be settled. MSNBC provides transcripts of the show a couple of days after it airs. [...] This should clarify and misperceptions on my part or yours."

Right, and the transcript is out:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33005278/ns/msnbc_tv-rachel_maddow_show/
and I must say the misinterpretation is definitely yours dskiff.

Your first point was:
"Rachel Maddox proclaimed this as the first murder in an organized movement by the right wing conservatives to attack and kill federal government employees!"

There is nothing like that in the transcript. The closest she came to that, and it is not even close, was when she asked her guest from the Justice Dept whether this crime was possibly related to anti-government sentiment. He responded it was not clear yet.

Your second point was:
"She called for an immediate investigation, and said the FBI would not be there if this was not an anti-government HATE CRIME."

She did not call for any investigation. She did point out that it is a federal crime to commit a crime against a federal employee and that was WHY the FBI was there.

Are you sure you did not watch Fox News later and have their propaganda skew what you remember? Otherwise you should think about your recollections and how what you see and hear may be distorted in some way since your description of what Maddow said was very off base based on the transcript.

Posted by: Fate1 | September 24, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

It's a shame that the liberal loonies are trying to make this tragic death worse by falsely labeling conservatives as "those that oppose the federal government". Why is it that conservatives are always labeled as radicals, violence-inciters, etc. when they are only using common sense to logically evaluate topics? Have the liberals forgotten that conservatives founded this country? The pilgrims did not come off the Mayflower and immediately as the American Indians "where's my welfare check"?
America cannot continue spending without end ... unless you want America to become a "third-world country".
Conservatives are those people who donate more to charities, volunteer their time and talent on a regular basis, join the armed services and uphold the laws of this country than liberals. Conservatives do not routinely denegrade others or incite violence or perform violent acts. We are responsible, dependable, tax-paying, law-abiding citizens who you would call on first to help you if in a bind. Stop the hateful, Pelosi rhetoric!

Posted by: intelligentthinker | September 24, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

It is sad that this man and fellow Eagle Scout was murdered.

There are 3 things that the US Constitution mentions that all citizens should do:

1) Vote
2) Jury Duty
3) Be counted in the Census

These aren't red or blue issues, they are directly from the Constitution. Why people get all worked up about the census, which has happened every 10 years from 1790 onward, is beyond me.

Hate is a terrible thing. I hope they find the bastards that did this and put them away for a very long time.

Posted by: cyberfool | September 24, 2009 1:44 PM | Report abuse

We will add Kentucky to the list with South Carolina of states that must be reprogrammed. If you're in Kentucky or SC do not shave your eyebrows!!! Leave the one big brow so that you blend in...

Posted by: DontGetIt | September 24, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

We will add Kentucky to the list with South Carolina of states that must be reprogrammed. If you're in Kentucky or SC do not shave your eyebrows!!! Leave the one big brow so that you blend in...

Posted by: DontGetIt | September 24, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

to the extremely ignorant ronjaboy

what damn difference does it make if he were black or white , you are an ignorant a**hole and you are an example of the backwards , ingrown , stupidity that you wingnuts are full of

you make me sick idiot

Posted by: lgregory2 | September 24, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

What about Rep. Michele Bachman's (R- Minnesota) hysterical rant against the Census? Could that have contributed to Mr. Sparksman murder?

BACHMANN: If we look at American history, between 1942 and 1947, the data that was collected by the census bureau was handed over to the FBI and other organizations, at the request of President Roosevelt, and that’s how the Japanese were rounded up and put into the internment camps. I’m not saying that’s what the Administration is planning to do. But I am saying that private, personal information that was given to the census bureau in the 1940s was used against Americans to round them up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7uqza5hTiw&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: abelj | September 24, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

to intelligentthinker is there no limit to your ignorance , when did a liberal lynch somebody and "conservatives founded the country " is one of the dumbest statements ever . Being a wingnut is not having to have a brain

Posted by: lgregory2 | September 24, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

"She did point out that it is a federal crime to commit a crime against a federal employee and that was WHY the FBI was there.

...since your description of what Maddow said was very off base based on the transcript.

Posted by: Fate1"

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I'm glad the transcript was posted, and I admit I am wrong. It was late in the evening.

Note "Barrett" refers to David Barrett of the Associated Press.

Here's what was reported in the transcript:

"Federal law enforcement involvement—may be involved here because it is a federal crime to attack a federal worker on the job or because of their job.

MADDOW: From what we‘ve read, it seems that the body was found on September 12th, a couple of weeks ago. There was some local reporting at the time into what was described locally as a mysterious case. Why are we hearing about it nationally now?

BARRETT: I think investigators have taken great pains, both at the Kentucky State Police and FBI to better understand exactly what happened. Obviously the details—the few details we know at this point are very disturbing and could feed a larger political argument if this ends up being the result of anti-government sentiment. But they don‘t know that for absolute certain yet. And what—part of what the investigators‘ job is to rule out any other explanation for what happened."

"... could feed a larger political argument if this ends up being the result of anti-government sentiment. ...part of what the investigators' job is to rule out any other explanation..."


This is what gave me the impression is was sensationalism directed at fueling suspicion it was politically motivated, rather than just another drug-related killing. I thought it was irresponsible to have someone infer it was a hate crime against a government employee until proven otherwise.

From everything reported today, it is not politically motivated, and this reporter Barrett just had an agenda welcomed by Rachel Maddow. Keep in mind the body was badly decomposed, and they have not ruled it a homicide yet (almost two weeks after the body was found). It could still be a suicide. Also note his laptop was still in his vehicle.

P.S. If you read my comments today, you'd know better than paint me with the Fox News brush.

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

Michele Bachmann: “No wonder people right now who are gun owners are purchasing weapons and are purchasing ammunition.”

Michele Bachmann:“I want people in Minnesota armed and dangerous…”

Michele Bachmann: “Thomas Jefferson told us, having a revolution every now and then is a good thing, and the people — we the people — are going to have to fight back hard if we’re not going to lose our country.”

When these quotes are repeated incessantly by the likes of Limbaugh, Fox, etc... all the while showing a picture of Obama with a Hitler mustache, weak and hateful people like LastBastion become infuriated and proudly declare themselves right wing terrorists. They even screamed this out during the astroturf townhall meetings. If these people are not held responsible, the situation will get worse. They are like little spoiled children who keep pushing the limit until it becomes a disaster.

Posted by: MikeMcNally | September 24, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the census worker found hanged: It is very foolish for any Fed to be nosing around the Daniel Boone National Forest in rural southeast Kentucky at marijuana harvest time.

The marijuana growers are hanging out with their buds - the really expensive buds they plan to sell - so they can feed their starving families. This dumb census worker had no sense. He is just another casualty of the federal war on drugs.

Posted by: alance | September 24, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

What about Rep. Michele Bachman's (R- Minnesota) hysterical rant against the Census? Could that have contributed to Mr. Sparksman murder?

Posted by: abelj

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abelj, we watch or listen to different news sources.

The only organized boycott of the census I've heard of was by latino groups, which are hardly right wing.

"Some Hispanic advocacy groups are calling for illegal immigrants to boycott the 2010 Census unless immigration laws are changed. The move puts them at odds with leading immigrant rights advocates and creates another hurdle in the Census Bureau's quest to count everyone in the USA.

The National Coalition of Latino Clergy & Christian Leaders, a group that says it represents 20,000 evangelical churches in 34 states, issued a statement this week urging undocumented immigrants not to fill out Census forms unless Congress passes "genuine immigration reform."

Similar grass-roots campaigns are unfolding in Arizona and New Mexico to protest state and local crackdowns on illegal immigrants. Asking immigrants to be counted without giving them a chance to become legal residents counters church teachings, says the Rev. Miguel Rivera, president of the Latino religious coalition."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2009-04-15-census_N.htm

It would be sad and tragic to learn this poor man and single father was murdered by criminals working on growing pot, and they are illegals from Mexico.

That would just deflate the hate tire being blown up by so many here and elsewhere.

Let's all pray the truth comes out and apologizes are made. I was wrong about what I heard last night, and I admitted it. Hopefully those trying hard to characterize this as a right wing hate crime will apologize if it turns out to be a suicide or drug related....

But I'm not holding my breath, ty.

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

dskiff wrote: "From everything reported today, it is not politically motivated, and this reporter Barrett just had an agenda welcomed by Rachel Maddow. Keep in mind the body was badly decomposed, and they have not ruled it a homicide yet (almost two weeks after the body was found). It could still be a suicide. Also note his laptop was still in his vehicle."

It would be an unusual suicide considering the word "FED' written/carved in the torso (I haven't heard which it is yet). This is what is bringing this to national attention, that someone went to the trouble of labeling the victim as a "FED". But, having some knowlege of the area I'm in some agreement with those who feel this is drug related in some way. "FED" as a target of resentment goes beyond pure politics in them hills. Btu that does not mean such resentment is not fed by right wing political "entertainment".

Posted by: Fate1 | September 24, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Nothing more qrotesque on this planet than inbred righty ramblings and politics. Friggin' trailer trash is all they are. Country's full of em. Secede them all to a new place called ..."Dumphuqistan"!

Posted by: jfern03 | September 24, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

The latest victim of the current campaign of using hate speech to enflame the fear and violence of the ignorant. First oreilly has his listeners shooting doctors, now beck's crowd is lynching anyone they think is part of our government.

Posted by: John1263 | September 24, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

coloradodog:

Gotta disagree that this is the first shot fired. The Pittsburgh guy who shot up the immigration center was an anti-Obama, anti-federal government guy. He was worried Obama would take his guns.

And let's not forget the guy who killed the abortion doctor in his church, the same doctor Bill O'Reilly repeatedly called "Tiller the baby killer."

We'll see much more of this.

Posted by: mypitts2 | September 24, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Hey ronjaboy,

Learn to read, the first paragraph identifies the victim as white. I'm sure now you'll be more concerned than you would have been had he been black. Support these domestic terrorists do you?

Posted by: wildcat1 | September 24, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't this a regular news story instead of a keeping an eye on government blurb?

Maybe you ought to keep an eye government workers safety

Posted by: wildcat1 | September 24, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"The fault for this man's death resides with the perpetrators of the crime…nobody else is responsible."

Sorry, lastbastion. This is nonsense. If media messages had no influence on behavior, why would advertisers spend billions on commercials?

Repeatedly telling people that the government is coming for you, or that the president has a "deep-seated hatred for white people" is going to eventually affect the weak-minded.

Posted by: mypitts2 | September 24, 2009 2:51 PM | Report abuse

Who is this bachman? If she is a member of the House is she so amazingly stupid that she does not know that her branch of government is WHY THE CONSTITUTION SPECIFIES A CENSUS? If she is a republicon, no need to answer. They love to run around waving pocket Constitutions they have never opened. And when they do open them they get lost on all them big werds....

Posted by: John1263 | September 24, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

"And just to be clear, what she's proposing for the census is that she and her constituents only provide the required information"

You're spinning, lastbastion. Michelle Bachmann said she would not fill out the census form and that filling out the census is what led to internment of the Japanese in WWII. Even Glenn Beck disagreed with her on her comments about the census.

Posted by: mypitts2 | September 24, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Bachmann is probably dancing on her dining room table right now.

Posted by: hayden1 | September 24, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"After all, census takers are not exactly the brightest, most stable productive members of society. They are low dollar desperate for work types."

Corrupt: Did you miss the guy's bio in the story right above your comments? The guy was an Eagle scout and substitute teacher.

Posted by: mypitts2 | September 24, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

There is a gruesome joke here that I will point out, unfortunately because I don't see that anyone has mentioned it and it is relevant to the killing.

The word on his chest: "FED"
The man was hanging: "UP"
The message could be: "FED UP".

If this is the message (and I don't know if it is), it would seem relevant to why and how the census worker was killed.

Posted by: moradus | September 24, 2009 3:03 PM | Report abuse

"It would be an unusual suicide considering the word "FED' written/carved in the torso (I haven't heard which it is yet)."

Posted by: Fate1

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Fate1, in reading the different versions, it appears the body was hanging up there quite a while. The police advised his mother to have him cremated because the body is so decomposed.

Given the reported condition of the body and the amount of time it has taken to determine a cause of death, I wonder if this claim of "FED" is even accurate.

I find only references to "one unnamed source" who says it was on his chest. There is no mention of how it was placed there. If the body was so badly decomposed, I wonder how anyone can tell it was actually the letters F, E, and D. It was hot and bodies tend to swell up grotesquely as they decompose and gasses are released.

I'm starting to doubt the whole story about the "FED"... I do not, however, doubt, if it was murder, that he may have been murdered by criminals because he represented the Census Bureau, and plenty of people hate Census takers!

As for the Director of OMB, Morrell John Berry is a political appointee out trying to prove his worth, but I think his use of the term "domestic terrorism" is premature and over the top.

Again, I urge people to wait for the autopsy results, the investigation if there is one, and the arrests. THEN if you want to blame individuals or groups, go for it.

I'm done commenting on this. Enjoy, everyone.

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

intelligentthinker wrote: "It's a shame that the liberal loonies are trying to make this tragic death worse by falsely labeling conservatives as "those that oppose the federal government". Why is it that conservatives are always labeled as radicals, violence-inciters, etc. when they are only using common sense to logically evaluate topics?"

Oh, I don't know, maybe because conservatives show up at rallies armed? Maybe because they shout other people down, tear up their posters, intimidate liberals peacefully protesting, carry signs calling for some trimming of the tree of liberty, etc, etc, etc?

intelligentthinker wrote: "Have the liberals forgotten that conservatives founded this country?"

Oh really? Conservatives, back then, wanted the colonies to remain under English law. The notion of a free press, free speech and free association were liberal views at the time, considered treasonous ideas under English law. The founding fathers risked their lives to allow very liberal ideas to flourish. Benedict Arnold, now there was a conservative.

intelligentthinker wrote: "The pilgrims did not come off the Mayflower and immediately as the American Indians "where's my welfare check"?"

No? If it was not for the welfare the Indians offered the pilgrims would have starved.

intelligentthinker wrote: "America cannot continue spending without end ... unless you want America to become a "third-world country"."

Where was this sort of thought for the past 8 years when a republican Congress was spending us from surplus into deep deep debt?

Posted by: Fate1 | September 24, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

This white-on-white violence is scary.

Posted by: newbeeboy | September 24, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

At the end of 2011 we MUST:
1. Compare the Tax Return Rolls against the results of the 2010 census.
2. Anyone who files taxes and is not listed in the Census is OBVIOUSLY living here illegally and MUST be deported at once.
3. There's plenty of room in Somalia.

Posted by: Tomcat3 | September 24, 2009 3:13 PM | Report abuse

"If media messages had no influence on behavior, why would advertisers spend billions on commercials?"

Posted by: mypitts2

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I have many, many female friends and colleagues who I KNOW watch football games every Sunday.

I have yet to see or hear of them buying beer and car tires for their husbands!

"Oh, honey, let me go buy the beer. I LOVE that Miller Lite commercial!" lol

Posted by: dskiff | September 24, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

I do appreciate the cool headed, professional approach the authorities are surely using to find the thing who hanged this man.

However, this situation brings out a more ham-fisted feeling in me. This thing should be drawn and quartered with horses and have the remains of his rotten carcass thrown in a landfill.

Posted by: Vickie803 | September 24, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

The murder of Bill Sparkman sounds like an act of terrorism if the murderer wrote FED on his cloths or body.

Posted by: Emmetrope | September 24, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

You can thank Michelle Bachman for this. Hope she knows now that she has this man's blood on her hand. Maybe she'll keep her ignorant trap shut and stop inciting these loonies into doing her dirty work.

"Mrs. Bachmann, Minnesota Republican, said the questions have become "very intricate, very personal" and she also fears ACORN, the community organizing group that came under fire for its voter registration efforts last year, will be part of the Census Bureau's door-to-door information collection efforts. I know for my family the only question we will be answering is how many people are in our home," she said. We won't be answering any information beyond that, because the Constitution doesn't require any information beyond that."

Posted by: cholly85241 | September 24, 2009 3:53 PM | Report abuse

This was big news LAST NIGHT on The Rachel Maddow Show.

Posted by: monabona | September 24, 2009 3:59 PM | Report abuse

dskiff wrote: "I have many, many female friends and colleagues who I KNOW watch football games every Sunday. I have yet to see or hear of them buying beer and car tires for their husbands! "Oh, honey, let me go buy the beer. I LOVE that Miller Lite commercial!" lol"

You must not have taken a marketing class. The beer commercials are not targeting women. And, if you're a man, you probably don't want to go out and buy the latest panty liner with "wings", or the latest children's toy being advertised. But the fact is that men DO go out and buy Miller Lite BECAUSE of the commercials. Marketing on TV influences people's buying habits and repeatedly spewing lies and misinformation does have an effect on listeners.

Posted by: Fate1 | September 24, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

I will wait for the FBI to do its investigation, but, I won't be at all surprised if the murderer was some bonehead who had been tuning into Beck, Savage, and Limbaugh.

Posted by: rkerg | September 24, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

More Republican terrorism against the American people--

and you thought things would change when Palin lost her bid to be president!

Posted by: lichtme | September 24, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

AP quotes retired Kentucky state trooper Gilbert Acciardo's warning to Sparkman: "I told him on more than one occasion, based on my years in the state police, 'Mr. Sparkman, when you go into those counties, be careful because people are going to perceive you different than they do elsewhere.'" But Roy Silver, a sociology professor at Southeast Community College in Harlan County, told AP, "I don't think distrust of government is any more or less here than anywhere else in the country." But when it comes to the federal government, Clay County is a special case. It is a hotbed of marijuana cultivation, mainly in the Daniel Boone National Forest, which covers much of the county, and Sparkman's body was found on forest property. For nearly 30 years, federal and state authorities have targeted pot growers in Clay and adjoining counties, and in the last several years, the Justice Department has won indictments and convictions of officials and other local residents for vote fraud, other corruption and other crimes. And resistance to federal authority in the area dates back more than a century, to the era of major moonshine stills. The AP reporters quote a Manchester Huddle House waitress who feels the government needs to "stick their nose out of people's business."
--The Rural Blog, Institute for Rural Journalism and Community Issues, http://irjci.blogspot.com

Posted by: alcross1 | September 24, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Bachmann says "Eagle Scouts are Gubament Nazi brown shirts."

Posted by: hayden1 | September 24, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone say "Twana Brawly" type suicide? I wouldn't doubt it.

After all, census takers are not exactly the brightest, most stable productive members of society. They are low dollar desperate for work types.

Census taking is like wearing a sign that says "I'm a friggin loser and this is the only job I can get because nobody will hire a loser like me".

Pretty much sums it up.

Posted by: C0rrupt_0_Crats | September 24, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse
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Wow. Mommy and Daddy didn't love someone enough.

Posted by: billy8 | September 24, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

When people argue this man's murder as some sort of political act they cheapen what he was doing with his life, teaching kids and raising his own.

Hate politics is un-American whether the h8 is left oriented or right. It might be fun to "give it" to the other side but the last time I checked volunteers from every state and several countries are in uniform and overseas so most of us can pontificate, though from some of the post a better phrase might be "to orally defecate".

This culture war is mostly generational; I'd gladly trade Jeremiah Wright AND Jesse Jackson for Limbaugh AND Coulter, in 20 years our current middle-schoolers will rise above race and gender because they will have too to keep this country afloat.

U baby boomers are not the citizens your parents were, many were both racist and sexist BUT when it mattered most they put that crap aside and stood shoulder to shoulder as Americans. They re-built Germany and Japan only to watch their kids give away the store and chase empty dreams; lets hope gen next is not as jaded as the kids you guys raised with gen x.

Posted by: williepete3 | September 24, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

This is horrible murder is product of hate radio like Limbaugh and Hannity and the out of control propaganda of Fox News. Michelle Bachman is to blame for calling for the resistance to the census the same way O'Reilly called for the murder of abortionist. Something has to be done.

Posted by: blarsen1 | September 24, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Uhh, to those of you endorsing the theory that Sparkman stumbled on a backwoods meth lab... this wasn't drug dealers. Are you stupid? Drug dealers would want to lay low, not stage a political frenzy. If it had been drug dealers, the body would be six feet under in the middle of nowhere. Not hanging from a tree by a cemetery with "FED" scrawled on the chest.

Posted by: jorauk | September 24, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Marc Levin wrote his best seller Liberty & Tyranny and explained we are in a soft Tyranny. For those functional (or not so functional) illiterates of the liberal persuasion try studying our history and maybe reading the Constitution from time to time.

If you half-wits had any idea what is going on in this country you would be literally up in arms as well. The census taking is going far beyond it's intent. If you fools don't see the United States of America collapsing around you.....then stay the hell out of the way because you haven't seen anything yet. You are either part of the solution or part of the problem Jefferson (a more liberal member of the brilliant Founding Fathers stated: " THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS TO PREVENT AGAINST A TYRRANY IN GOVERNMENT" period. Those amazing men realized that you fools on the left would take more and more largess and he said "rebellion will be needed from time to time"...and for you uneducated dolts, he didn't mean through the political process as that in fact has become the problem. Our founding document is truly sacred and the morons on the left that don't get it, along with those manipulating us to a New World Order.....better wake up and smell the coffee. THIS WILL NOT GO AWAY until we are back to the basics of our REPUBLIC...

Unless the New World Order machine, that has become both dumocrat and republicrat, is shut down, there will be a revolution in this country...as they say....... YOU CAN TAKE TO THE BANK.........

Posted by: ndakkray | September 24, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

So ndakkray, why aren't you out fighting a guerrilla war against the "soft tyranny" of our government instead of posting comments on a newspaper article?

Posted by: jorauk | September 24, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

Helter Skelter and Klan torture killings live on with the teabag psychos. Instead of listening to Manson, they get their cues from Michele Bachmann, Glenn Beck, and the screwball teabag leaders. After the terrorist attacks at the Holocaust Museum, and against Dr. Tiller, the far right-wing has revealed that they are the ultimate danger this nation faces. This new deadly attack shows how extreme the lunatics are manipulating their followers. Rev. Bookburn - Radio Volta

Posted by: revbookburn | September 24, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

"The murder of Bill Sparkman sounds like an act of terrorism if the murderer wrote FED on his cloths or body."

Posted by: Emmetrope

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It was a suicide. There was never any "FED" on his body - anywhere. The body was decomposed. The clothes were long off, and the insects and birds ate the body.

The FBI Evidence Response Team (ERT) found nothing to support one person's hoax about "FED".

It was all designed to make extremist ideologues go crazy, and it worked. Shame on all of you who made accusations!

And shame on the gay OMB Director for calling it "domestic terrorism" when the death of an anti-abortion protestor was a non-event for the left. Abortion-related deaths are all domestic terrorism, no matter which side the dead person was on.

"the ultimate danger this nation faces" is from extremists from the right, the left, Islamic, Zionist, etc.

The guy who tried to blow up the federal courthouse in Springfield, IL was not right wing or left wing - he hated America. Thank God for the FBI and wiretaps! Thank God for the Patriot Act.

It's time to tell extremists to shut the hell up. They should be condemned, not supported and duped!

Posted by: cibor | September 24, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

To Corrupt_o_Crats

How dare you judge Census Enumerators when you obviously don't know what you are talking about! I retired as a Director from AT&T and am working for the 2010 Census because I feel it is important that areas receive the accurate number of seats in the House of Representatives (this is reason 1 for the Census). I challenge you to just get through the training.

This murder is tragic....and senseless....

Posted by: ProudToBeAnAmerican | September 24, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

I would think part of the investigation would be to backtrack this poor man's scheduled visits for that day, and try to pinpoint his last "known" whereabouts, no-doubt that's been done or thought of. One thing seems clear to me though, the vile perp has done absolutely no favors to dope cooks and dope farmers of the area, can you just imagine how many black helis with night-vision and drug dogs are in-or headed to-Clay County KY right now !

Posted by: lovetrain | September 24, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse

All you proud right wing terrorist - Tomthy McVeigh loving Fs get ready; you might be surprised at how ready the majority of Americans are to get the chance to hunt you.

Posted by: jeffc6578 | September 24, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

shapiromarilyn wrote:
…Why are tea baggers and town hall crazies allowed to come to meetings with loaded guns????
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Perhaps because this administration respects the Constitution, including the First and Second Amendments, and therefore will not detain, tase, or arrest protestors – or forcibly relocate them to ‘Free Speech Zones’

Posted by: tseeker | September 25, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

If the South and Republican dominated areas insist on being opposed to the Federal government then the solution is pretty simple. Don't count them in the census.

When it comes to allocating funding, electoral college votes the inbred retard states will have a lower representation as a result. Cut their funding and the ungrateful parasites will find that they fall behind even further. Spend the money on energy and health reform in the smarter states; just make the national guard is fully ready for the mass exodus as the idiots start fleeing their states as the infrastructure collapses. It'll mean a few decades of upheaval but once their kids have gone through a civilized states education and mixed with decent people the problem will diminish and efforts to redevelop the economic wasteland can take place without the morons getting in the way.

In fact why bother even asking them if they want to be in the census. Make it voluntary and then let the morons pay the price.

Posted by: chunkylimey | September 25, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Would you be as willing as before this murder to be a census taker in Kentucky? Of course not.

Don't you think the 98% of talk show hosts would tone down their message a bit if several of their soulmates turned up this way? (I understand this man was bound with duct tape and duct tape covering his eyes.

America should stand as one against this kind of violence and intimidation. Every bit as wrong on either side of the spectrum. 100% of real Americans should stand shoulder to shoulder against this type of horror. No broadcaster should be allowed to stay on the public airwaves to deliver hate so their own pockets can be filled with treasure.

Posted by: rer21741 | September 25, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

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