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Postal Service launches 5-day delivery plan

By Ed O'Keefe


A new logo designed to promote plans to cut Saturday mail deliveries. (Courtesy U.S. Postal Service)

The U.S. Postal Service moved forward with plans to adopt a five-day delivery schedule on Wednesday, earning formal approval to take the plans to postal regulators and Congress.

The Postal Board of Governors asked Postmaster General John E. Potter and his colleagues to seek a non-binding opinion on the plans from the Postal Regulatory Commission. Staffers said Potter will submit his plans to regulators next Tuesday ... via e-mail.

(The Federal Eye previewed the delivery plans on Monday.)

Five-day delivery would begin during fiscal 2011 if the PRC and Congress approve the plans. In advance of that possibility, the Postal Service is providing new information to Americans about its proposal to deliver mail just five days a week ... by using the Internet.

"While several steps must be taken to fully address the revenue gap, five-day delivery is one of the Postal Service’s best options to significantly reduce its costs to partially offset its unprecedented mail volume and revenue declines, with Saturday being the best day to eliminate carrier delivery," the site says.

Interested customers can visit http://www.usps.com/communications/five-daydelivery, where they'll find detailed information on how businesses and households can plan ahead for the potential end of Saturday deliveries.

By Ed O'Keefe  | March 24, 2010; 12:31 PM ET
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The USPS can't make deliveries on time and meet committments working 6 days per week. How do they expect that they will be able to do it in 5? I don't think they are efficient enough to go to 5 days. They are the #3 parcel service in the USA behind Fedex#1, UPS #2, then USPS.

Posted by: vintel7 | March 24, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

I'd rather have stamp prices raised to a dollar than lose a day of delivery. After all, people don't usually use stamps every day. But I look forward to the mail six days a week.

Posted by: MarylandJ | March 24, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Once a week is plenty for me. Just sayin'

Posted by: tuzoner | March 24, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

No FIVE! Keep six alive along with Saturday Post Offices open. Keep people working. This is a horrible idea! If budget restraint is a must think about 1 or 2 weekends a month. I look forward to mail over the weekend.

Posted by: drfields | March 24, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Netflix customers, like myself, are going to be ticked off. A lot of us plan our deliveries to get a movie for Saturday night. Deliveries take about 2 days. So now if Netflix sends you a movie on Thursday you will not get it until Monday. Kinda messes up your Saturday night movie plans. If you thought throttling was bad before, wait until you lose a day of mail delivery. It will take Netflix an extra day to get back movies from people and will take people an extra day to get movies from Netflix. That amounts to longer wait times for movies in your queue. I'd rather pay 2 cents more for a stamp than lose a day of mail delivery.

Posted by: rwalker66 | March 24, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

This is surely mismanagement. We used to get it twice a day as a kid. I have big problems with my zip code postal service so I go to the one next ward over in Chicago. There great! They get it there the next day while 60657 takes 5-10. Same area or home. I'm not kidding.
After repeated calls -no improvements for lifetime employees who can't be fired. That's the performance problem.

Posted by: crrobin | March 24, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised the post office waited so long to implement "no Saturday delivery." Given their stagering losses, big changes are inevitable.

Posted by: DedicatedCitizen | March 24, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

Keep 6 days!!! Saturday is a busy commerce day for many people. I hope the Congress has the wisdom to reject this idea (they did once already). I would rather have postage rates raised then lose another day of delivery. Many business rely on Saturday delivery. The post office has huge pension costs that need to be put under control. How many people in the private sector get a pension??

Posted by: bobwiley | March 24, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

Wow, a day without junk mail at last..

Posted by: Wildthing1 | March 24, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

All USPS deliveries and counter services should be cut to Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Most of the mail is junk mail, which is handled for a reduced rate, adding to the operating losses, while loading the system down. Postal patrons should be allowed to opt out of receiving junk mail, and all USPS employees should spend Tuesday and Thursday loading the unwanted junk mail into trucks and delivering it to the recyclers. That makes a five day work week for all, which is plenty. If the grocery stores and newspaper publishers, etc. don't want to pay first class mail rates, they can put their junk on their websites for any who might be interested in it. That would cost them a great deal less than printing and mailing, and would relieve the pressure on our landfills as well as cut down on the wasting of trees, etc.

Posted by: martin_l_77084 | March 24, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

It's nice that they're giving us this new information. But where is the place I can offer feedback and ask questions, to get more information? Certainly they aren't planning to do this without input from their customers, are they?

Posted by: pxl4 | March 24, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse


let them close the unneeded post offices and stop the junk mail subsidies (congress will not allow either one to happen) and usps will be able to deliver 6 days.

Posted by: george32 | March 24, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

This is a good thing. One less day to receive bills and other bad news. I need a break.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | March 24, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

rwalker66: Try reading a book instead.

Posted by: adrienne_najjar | March 24, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

No FIVE! Keep six alive along with Saturday Post Offices open. Keep people working. This is a horrible idea! If budget restraint is a must think about 1 or 2 weekends a month. I look forward to mail over the weekend.

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maybe make a law only junk mail can be delivered on a wednesday...then after that choose that the day to not deliver

Posted by: Micholina1 | March 24, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

The government cannot even run the post office efficiently and they want to change one sixth of our economy from private to public and we are supposed to feel confident they can? Are we stupid? Well we are not and we know they cannot do it and it is going to cost far more than the phony numbers they gave.
This is so pathetic.

Posted by: greatgran1 | March 24, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

For those who cry that they "need" Saturday mail delivery, let them subscribe to it at $5.00 per week. How many of them do you think will "need" it that much? For those who say they "look forward" to their mail delivery, and would really be distressed by not receiving it on Saturdays, it should be explained that it is not the purpose of the USPS to be the nucleus around which their lives revolve. How do they get through Sundays without mail deliveries? Perhaps they could get a dog that will need walking several times a day. That would give them something to look forward to.

Posted by: martin_l_77084 | March 24, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I believe every other day delivery will be better solution. Half of zip code can be served beginning Monday and the second half beginning Tuesday so delivery staff will keep working full time. It will bring significant savings so post offices can work 7 days a week enabling customers to pick up mail if necessary.

Posted by: u999nik | March 24, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

greatgran1 said:
"The government cannot even run the post office efficiently and they want to change one sixth of our economy from private to public and we are supposed to feel confident they can? Are we stupid?"
Well, since you asked, yes, you are. The USPS is not part of the government.

Posted by: martin_l_77084 | March 24, 2010 3:03 PM | Report abuse

5 days lowers the chances of someone going postal

Posted by: GeneWells | March 24, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

I guess it's nice have Sturday mail, but certainly not critical. I'm sure my life will go on if the mailbox is empty on Saturdays. I expect there are probably business owners and others who think differently, but let's not keep Saturday service just because somebody doesn't want to have to reschedule their Netflix deliveries (Sheesh).

Posted by: justanotherguy | March 24, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

How pathetic that America is going backward, losing services that were once part of an advanced civilization. Why not increase the rate of a first class stamp to about 65 cents, and, if still necessary, a small subsidy from the Federal Government for this essential service.

Posted by: AnonymousBE1 | March 24, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Also, there is something vaguely Orwellian about the "Five-Day Delivery" sign - it makes it appear to be some new service. A non-Orwellian sign would apologize for the reduction in service.

Posted by: AnonymousBE1 | March 24, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Is this to allow the Postmaster General ANOTHER HUGE salary increase? Just think how much he will be earning when we go to 3 day delivery. Hmmm, maybe he will pay off the national debt. Having said that, I'm not opposed to 5-day delivery--I just want to see where the savings go.

Posted by: coffic | March 24, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Look below the surface. The USPS is suffering operating losses in the billions. Plus the volume of mail is shrinking. In a nutshell, the USPS's numbers are near completely upside down: the operating expenses are increasing and their income is decreasing. Five-day delivery is just one of many changes likely to come. As one poster has already pointed out, things are going to get much worse, before they get better for the USPS.

Posted by: jjsMA | March 24, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

One other thing: I'm no fan of career bureaucrats {which may not be a popular statement to make on a WP comment board}, but give Postmaster John Potter credit. He is doing a remarkable job with the challenges he is facing.

He has successfully negotiated nearly a half-dozen union contracts in recent years. Not only has he not given up much, he has won hard earned concessions from these unions.

No doubt, the USPS has to change many internal procedures and outdated beliefs, but external influences such as a diminishing demand for mail is causing major problems for the postal service as well.

Posted by: jjsMA | March 24, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

AnonymousBE1 said:
"How pathetic that America is going backward, losing services that were once part of an advanced civilization. Why not increase the rate of a first class stamp to about 65 cents, and, if still necessary, a small subsidy from the Federal Government for this essential service."
Outhouses were also once part of "an advanced civilization", but for the majority of us, they have been abandoned in favor of a better "essential service". Does that mean that we are "going backward"? For most of us, delivery on one day per week would be more than enough. Using the internet with online billing, banking and email is faster, cheaper, more secure, more convenient, etc. However, you might not recognize those benefits in your "advanced civilization".

Posted by: martin_l_77084 | March 24, 2010 3:44 PM | Report abuse

One less day for my dogs to go balistic, forever vanquishing the evil-doer from our front door...until the next time...

Posted by: krazyj2472002 | March 24, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

That's fine. The offices will be open. After a month no one will notice. Just think of it as a day you didn't get any mail anyway.

Posted by: jckdoors | March 24, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Cut the JUNK mail or charge what it actually costs to deliver it. All the budget problems will be solved by that simple change.

Posted by: POD3 | March 24, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Save us from the believers that the free market fixes all ills. We spend billions of dollars to create and maintain a huge network of interstate highways, bridges, etc, and most of them are free to travel on. The roads don't make any money directly, but they greatly benefit society - making the movement of goods and services through the economy cheaper and more efficient. Just try driving around in a 3rd world country on narrow dirt roads etc. and you will see how critical this infrastructure is to our economy. The post office still serves that same kind of function - and only the U.S. has the stupid idea that it should make money. It isn't really a business, it's basic infrastructure. That doesn't mean it should be mismanaged, but the post office does things none of the private services do, and at lower costs to the public. If you have to raise rates - do it. Saturday delivery by the post office is a stupid thing to cut.

Posted by: teamw23 | March 24, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

The PO is, what, 260 billion in the red? Go to five and stay alive!

This will work wonders for the postal workers because they work staggered days. Postal carriers rotate their days off: Sunday always, Monday this week, Tuesday the week after, Wednesday the week after that, and so on. Now, they'll be just like the rest of us and the PO won't have to staff to make up for that sixth day of delivery.

AND! We all get two days in a row with no junk mail, political ads, or BILLS!!!

Posted by: tmkelley | March 24, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

The USPS takes no tax money from the U.S. taxpayer; yet it is controlled by congress. Congress could help out the USPS by allowing it to control its business practices just like FedEx and UPS. The problem is congress and the labor unions; everyone, including Jack Potter knows this.

Posted by: civilrightist | March 24, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

We used to get it twice a day as a kid.

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Reply: yeah when American only had 100 million people AND the only way to get something was by mail.

The postal service has 3 times as many people to deliver to but revenues are down because of e-mail and FedEx, UPS, etc.

So yeah back in the last century, I'm sure there was a time when the post office delivered twice a day....... but, then again, many cities had two newspapers.

Posted by: mokey1 | March 24, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Bad idea. Put the blame where it belongs squarely on the shoulders of the republican congresses who worked hard to hamstring the Postal Service.

Posted by: jbowen431 | March 24, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Good job, post office!!! At least one part of government is getting the message--to put its balance sheet in order. I think we can all sacrifice our Saturday mail in order to appreciate our mail being delivered closer to within budget on Monday through Friday... I know tons of people who support this measure. Please ignore the naysayers!!!

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Posted by: linlinmeihua | March 24, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Why not skip Monday or Wednesday instead of Saturday? Then people who subscribe to Netflix and such could get their movies for the weekend.

Posted by: veerle1 | March 24, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

teamw23 said:
"...Saturday delivery by the post office is a stupid thing to cut."
Having left out your illogical rhetoric that doesn't apply to this issue, I have this question for you: On what facts do you base your conclusion?

Posted by: martin_l_77084 | March 24, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

I presume that a five-day delivery and pickup schedule will dramatically improve their otherwise dismal service at present?

Posted by: Diogenes | March 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Mail? Oh yeah, that's the ads I get in my mailbox.

I can't think of anything I get via snail mail that has any real time value. Once-a-week delivery would be fine for me.

Posted by: da1123 | March 24, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Metro should stop weekend service too. It would save alot of money and provide maintenance time.

Posted by: corrections | March 24, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I will miss that day. I make full use of the postal service. And I agree that having two off days in a row is tough on those of us who use mail service often.

I think everyone will have to switch over to online bill payment now, such that more losses will come to the USPS.

Posted by: sarahabc | March 24, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

So many people are missing the point. The USPS is not as profitable anymore because of the internet. People can get things delivered electronically, and have no need for the USPS like before!

UPS and FedEx are doing the lion's share of package delivery because they are specifically chosen by internet and brick and block companies to deliver their products. The USPS for some reason has ignored that venue, or has been specifically ordered to stay out of it. The USPS stays in business mainly from junk mail organizations. UPS and FedEx have never delivered unsolicited mail to me anyway.

Posted by: swatkins1 | March 24, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Why not to do it five days a week but skip another day, e.g., Wednesday? The delivery would be Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.

I would also keep Post Office offices open on Saturdays at least for a few hours in the morning.

Posted by: vfine11 | March 24, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I've lived in countries that don't have Saturday mail delivery service: The Netherlands, The United Kingdom, Australia ... and I've done pretty well without it. I'd trade Saturday delivery for having more post offices open on Saturdays since that's the only time a lot of M-F, 9-5 working people have a chance to get to the post office.

Posted by: cechiverri | March 24, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

I am not going to miss mail delivery on Sat if that is what it takes for the USPS to become solvent then let it be. No private company has the mandates the post offices has they would never go into business with the restrictions that Congress gives the USPS. Maybe I have a really good post office or something I don't have much to complain about when it comes to mail delivery. I usually get in state mail in one or two days and I send first class mail from NY to FL in 3 days. Pretty good deal for $.44 they pick it up at my office put in on an airplane fly it a 1,000 miles and deliver it to someone's front door. I guess to some people anything associated with the government automatically inefficient.

Posted by: farfromdc | March 24, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

I love the Post Office. They are so great. I wish they could deliver 6 days a week. They are fabulous.

Posted by: celestun100 | March 24, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

All we get on Saturday is junk anyway. I can see doing a cutback on delivery, but Post Offices should be open at least part of the day.

Posted by: treadlefish | March 24, 2010 6:20 PM | Report abuse

vintel7 posted March 24, 2010 1:10 PM
"The USPS can't make deliveries on time and meet committments working 6 days per week. How do they expect that they will be able to do it in 5? I don't think they are efficient enough to go to 5 days. They are the #3 parcel service in the USA behind Fedex#1, UPS #2, then USPS."


Really!!! What mail don't you get on time?
As far as I am concerned the USPS could deliver three days a week which would allow carriers to work one area three days a week and another area the other three days. Business could be five days a week and whiners could pay extra for six day a week delivery.

Hope you're OK paying $10.00 for letter delivery by FedEx.

Posted by: knjincvc | March 24, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I think this is a great idea. Also, take away the trucks for each carrier. Let them learn to walk. They'll be healthier and that will decrease medical insurance costs.

And stop subsidizing junk mail and metered first class by upping the price of First Class stamps.

Netflixers - How about downloading? Are you still on dial-up??

Posted by: RichardinPasadena | March 24, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

RichardinPasadena posted March 24, 2010 6:34 PM

"I think this is a great idea. Also, take away the trucks for each carrier. Let them learn to walk. They'll be healthier and that will decrease medical insurance costs."

Well, they will be healthier but it will take more carriers to get the job done ... kind of defeats the purpose of trying to cut costs.

Posted by: knjincvc | March 24, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

vintel7 posted March 24, 2010 1:10 PM
"The USPS can't make deliveries on time and meet committments working 6 days per week. How do they expect that they will be able to do it in 5? I don't think they are efficient enough to go to 5 days. They are the #3 parcel service in the USA behind Fedex#1, UPS #2, then USPS."


Really!!! What mail don't you get on time?
As far as I am concerned the USPS could deliver three days a week which would allow carriers to work one area three days a week and another area the other three days. Business could be five days a week and whiners could pay extra for six day a week delivery.

Hope you're OK paying $10.00 for letter delivery by FedEx.

Posted by: knjincvc | March 24, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

I am totally fine with 5-day delivery. Now, will the credit card companies alter their due dates to exclude Saturdays (and Sundays) so we don't get charged late fees on days when mail is not delivered??????

Posted by: bowers5790 | March 24, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

WastingtonDC:
Deliver mail 3 days each week to every household. Cut a third of the USPO employees, and put all small post offices out for bid, to local stores willing to meet the hours scheduled, with their own English speaking personnel. Designate Mon, Wed, Fri mail routes versus Tues, Thurs, Sat route addresses uniformly, permanently and randomly, to maximize ease of delivery with two thirds of existing personnel.

Put a free computer kiosk in every post office, to encourage emails to addressees home computer, or for physical delivery of a printed copy, from addressee's post office, at one fifth the postal rate, instead of physical delivery.

Review those private enterprise delivery service that route their deliveries to save fuel, wages, and mistakes, and copy any useful ideas, like limiting left turns, etc. Do this during the new route determinations, if no left turns could make a telling difference in accidents, fuel use, etc.

Charge the same rate for every ounce of mail, no classes, no campaign contributor's hundred tons a week of spam mail, at the expense of first class mailers.

Prevent USPO subsidizing flat rate mailers, with free packages, flat rates for up to 70 pounds, to savage the private companies who move any package needed at appropriate rates, but cannot compete when the USPO steals first class mailers fees, to transport the packages they raid from private enterprises.

Eliminate spam mailings by setting up a Do Not Mail List, and requiring all mass mailers to avoid mailings to any address so listed. No exemptions for beggars, political criminals, et al.

Problem solved! While you're at it, create a USPO customer ombudsman office, to accept user complaints about long lines, surly postal clerks, and empty service lines, when the available employees outnumber the service lines, but never seem able to fill all those service desks, during any hours humans need postal service.

Posted by: WastingtonDC | March 24, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

USPS has screwed itself in a few ways.

For one, they allowed an enormous amount of sick time to be carried over year after year. Many "retire" a few months prior to their official retirement and eat up the accumulated sick time. They can carry up to 440 hours max on annual leave time and get cash when they retire. Union people are paid well for the jobs they do and get automatic increases depending on the union contract as well as COLAs. When they retire, they continue health insurance bennies at the same $ they paid when on the payroll. NO ONE, even other fed workers, get that sort of benefit. And it's breaking the bank.

Then there are myriad layers of management - redundant.

Yes, fewer stamps are being sold and competition from Fedex and UPS has pinched USPS. But it's gross mismanagement more than anything. They plain p*ss $ away in many ways.

Posted by: itsagreatday1 | March 24, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

I have at least one family member who works for the USPS. Although I am a little concerned about the potential loss of jobs, I have to admit, I rarely get anything useful in my mailbox. I don't even check it everyday. I can go out of town for a week and not worry about my little apartment building mailbox getting too full.

Posted by: PersonL | March 24, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

Each spring the USPS sets the new costs of stamps.
Any word on that yet?

Posted by: mtpeaks | March 24, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

If local Post Offices were open earlier in the morning, before work, and later in the evening, after work, it would be a lot easier to use the USPS.

My local Post Office changed it's opening from 830AM to 900AM, so now I can't get there before or after work. They are now only open a few hours on Saturday. If they close on Saturday, then I can't use them at all.

And I like to use the USPS for my packages, but they are making it just too difficult. There is more than business mail out there, guys.

Posted by: momj47 | March 24, 2010 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Hell, who needs mail five or six days a week???

I'd be happy to get mail only three times a week. Little is delivered these days that is time sensitive. All my banking is done by computer and most of my bills as well. What do we need it for????

Posted by: buzzsaw1 | March 24, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

If it means the Post Office will be able to pay off their debt, I am fine with it

Posted by: Bious | March 24, 2010 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone read the article or the weblinks?

Post Offices will remain open on Saturdays but Saturday delivery will stop.

The post office is losing billions of dollars annually. That isn't because of bloat or excess salaries, it is because they are moving BILLIONS of pieces fewer mail every year.

The Post Office has trimmed over 100,000 jobs over the last ten years.

Those of you who complain about junkmail should consider that it is junkmail that provides the revenue stream to support home delivery. Without junkmail, the revenue would be inadequate to support any delivery at all. If you don't like it, toss it in the recycling bin but be thankful for it because otherwise your first class mail would cost about three times as much. Those costs plus vendor markup would be passed on to you everytime you send or receive a piece of mail (including your bills).

Even if you adjust the price to cover the losses of the last several years, the USPS offers the cheapest postal delivery in the industrialized world.

There are some things I don't like about the Postal Service (like paying extra for restricted delivery and they NEVER get it right), but it is still a great system for a great price.

Posted by: MdLaw | March 24, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Let's compromise. Six day work weeks with half the deliveries. M,W,F for some, T, TH,S for others. It is very rare that daily mail is critical to any patron.

Posted by: kitchendragon50 | March 24, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

Imagine the fuel savings if rural delivery were only M-W-F.

Posted by: schafer-family | March 24, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

Five day delivery makes total sense.

Posted by: Taratara | March 24, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone thought of raising the cost of bulk mail? It would certainly increase revenue (if my mailbox is any indication)....

Posted by: craiggruber2002 | March 24, 2010 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Want me to get on my soapbox? wave the words: Post Office to go to 5 day delivery.
They constantly deliver LATE. Now when can I expect something? They leave my storm door ajar on the windiest days. 2 weeks ago- a special delivery letter was in the middle of my front yard while my storm door waved in the breeze. No offer of reimbursement from the local 20613 office and the Post Master returned my request, telling me to go to the local.

Posted by: katydid3363 | March 24, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

During the WASH snowfall days, our access was always available. WHY were 2 Postal workers slotting mail at 8PM? I have sent emails to Steny Hoyer, WUSA9.com, and anyone else I could think of for 3 years about the cruddy delivery. Netflix, Blockbuster, catalog companies,magazines- this will have a major BAD effect on them.

Posted by: katydid3363 | March 24, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

So the USPO is going to cut their budget to match their lower service.
SURE!
Fire the employees that don't come to work.
Let them go under BO care.

Posted by: Tony27 | March 24, 2010 10:09 PM | Report abuse

The problem has NOTHING to do with 5-day delivery. It's all about paying outlandish retirement, lifetime health benefits, union work rules, ridiculous salaries, going postal, waste , redundancy and fraud.

It's about a business model that is broken--less work, less service, more pay , more costs, more money. This will NOT stop with a 5-day workweek.

It's time to shut it down and stop resuscitating a dead business. Franchise it to entrepreneurs. Get rid of it and all the dead weight it has.

Shut it down; start over. Stop using the public for keeping this loser alive. IT WILL NOT WORK for more than a year or two. Then what? A 3 day week? $2 stamps along with $4 gas? The USA has become a third world country. Is there a 4th world country? We can do that too...

Posted by: OldTimeThinking | March 24, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Well 5 day delivery may or may not save the Postal Service money but it will cost many carriers and subs thier jobs. Many Rural Carriers work thier routes 6 days a week. They will lose 4 days pay a month. Subs will lose their jobs as they will not be needed to cover for Regulars on Saturday. Routes will be consolidated or expanded resulting in poor service.
Bulk or "Junk" mail needs to cost the mailer a realistic amount and 1st Class postage needs to be raised.

Posted by: colinandjodee | March 25, 2010 1:13 AM | Report abuse

This is disturbing news. I own a small business and 5 or 4 day weeks (holiday weeks) has the potential to really mess up incoming cash flow. My business is debt free and it's important to me that it remain that way. My employees and the IRS don't care that incoming payments are delayed because of short work weeks, they want their money on time.

There are a lot of things that can be done to save money and still keep 6 day operations. For instance, no more foot delivery. Second, no more mail box in front of the house delivery. Set up NDCBUs for all residential areas so carriers only have 31 stops instead of 500.

There is a lot of dead weight at the USPS and most of it is in areas where people never touch a piece of mail unless they're pulling it out of the mailbox at home.

Posted by: wave41 | March 25, 2010 3:37 AM | Report abuse

Someone in sthis string said USPS was $260 Billion in the red. Presuming that is correct, how long will it take to reduce it to $0 with a 1-day-a-week reduction? If closing a day a week saved $10 million every week it would take 26,000 weeks to reach zero. That's 500 years. This isn't a solution, it's a band-aid, and not even a quality band-aid. Someone else said USPS is not run by the government. The USPS is governed by Congress. Maybe privatization should be discussed.

Another thing, their are areas that the Post Office will not deliver certain sized packages to some small way out in the sticks towns in Idaho (no offense, Idaho citizens) and these packages are transferred to FedEx in Salt Lake City. This creates a delay of several additional days (don't understand why)and my customers are always surprised when the package arrives by FedEx when my website stated shipment was to be USPS.

Thirdly, I've repeatedly checked shipping rates on various size packages ( mostly have 5 carton sizes) and the rates of FedEx, UPS and USPS are surprisingly within pennies of each other. If USPS could define a way to deliver for $24.50 the package that FedEx and UPS deliver for $29.00 additional business and additional revenue could be added.

All 3 manage to damage the occassional carton and this is another issue. UPS and FedEx can process a claim within days. The post office needs more time to process a claim than conception and delivery! Another inefficiency that could be improved upon, perhaps?

It just doesn't seem like all the possibilities have been considered or even brainstormed over. What's next, reducing the mail to 4, or 3 days? And don't forget, reducing all the services by one day means it will take an additional day to get that birthday card to your granddaughter. Everything will slow by at least one day. At least one day!

Posted by: dvg816 | March 25, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

This is quick fix for the people on top who have mismanaged the U.S.P.S. for so long. They are trying balance their budget by laying off employees and restructuring retiree health benefit payments. This solution is unacceptable and will cost thousands of hard working employees their jobs. Instead of looking for ways to improve service, and increase their revenue they have chosen to go after their employees in order to cut operating costs. This is the same mentality that has brought them to where they are now. Millions of people rely upon the U.S.P.S to make deliveries 6 days a week. A reduction to 5 day delivery would affect millions of people. Many businesses rely upon products arriving to their destination in a timely manner. People also rely upon a 6 day delivery for their medications to arrive at their home. The 5 day work week is not a valid solution to their financial problems. I suggest they go back and come up with a solution that won't affect millions of families.
Say NO to 5!

Posted by: ICarryMail | March 25, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Cutting back service would never be considered a viable option to any other service driven business EXCEPT The United States Postal Service. They should be looking for ways to increase service which will increase revenue. How many major corporations think they can increase their profits by reducing their services?

My solution? The PO is way too top heavy. There are too many people working at the Post Office who don't even touch the mail. If the Post Office can afford them, fine. If not...? Just a thought.

Posted by: eddie11220 | March 25, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I am just thrilled to death that some of you people could care less that alot of us postal workers would lose our jobs if they cut delivery to 1 or 2 days a week or end delivery altogether! I see all these "Out of a job yet,Buy American" stickers all over cars in Metro Detroit and hear so much about the big 3s job cuts and any job loss that is related to the auto industry and how terrible it is for them. Why should we give a damn about them if you dont about our jobs? I have a family to care for,how about you? Not too many jobs out there now for anyone,let alone all us postal workers who would lose their job.Our country is full of pieces of sh@# that ONLY CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES.You people are make me ashamed to be an American,I cant believe I served in the military for YOUR right to work and be free.THANKS! for caring

Posted by: urmailman | March 25, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

Since alot of you people think that the P.O. should go away and put all of us postal workers on the street,lets get rid of some other jobs while were at it. We should all ride bikes or walk-no more car companies or union employees to pay ,get rid of all fast food places and BAM-no more fat people and jobs for idiots with no education,all grocery stores can be self service checkouts-no more cashiers,lets end Welfare and save trillions doing that,do away with the military and just LOVE each other,do away with the Government(Democrats in particular),since they are worthless right? We can all manage ourselves,how about the police?, We can all get along right? I can go on and on.We can just sit by our computers and do everything HUH.

Posted by: urmailman | March 25, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

That's it. Raise the price of first class mail. And watch the pay raises happen. I believe that the USPS is contractually obligated to pay out more than it takes in. For those of you that say the PO is not a government entity where do they run to when they are out of money (annually)? It is still a federal offense to tell a mailman to stick it. They can't compete with technology. They never had any incentive to modernize. Why would you invest millions if you were not allowed to reduce your workforce. It was one of the first employers to give out jobs for life. It's retirees have their checks sent to their vacation homes in the mountains that they purchased while working for USPS. Actually they have them directly deposited. Something back in the 70s the PO tried to say they should make some money off of because they felt it was a postal function. For those of you who will miss Saturday delivery learn to use a computer.

Posted by: cjop | March 26, 2010 11:32 PM | Report abuse

I love to read comments from retired union people who trash current union employees. I am retired military and a mailman. I have a few suggestions for those on this list who want the Postal Service to be terminated.
First, if you eliminate the USPS you can certainly employ minimum wage people, like your paper boys, to deliver your mail. Problem is, you hate the paper boys too! Then your mail will cost 2.50 a piece to send. Try purchasing a book of those stamps each month.
Second, if you don't want bulk mail in your box, STOP ORDERING IT EVERY DAY!!! Most of our phone calls each day are from customers who are mad that their neighbor got a circular and they did not.
Third, about the Fed Ex and UPS comments. Every day the USPS delivers tons of mail brought to the back doors of the Post Office by both of these "WONDERFUL SHIPPING SERVICES" because they do not deliver everywhere. They should be doing very well. We deliver for them everyday!
Finally, I would like to suggest that since the "Postal Service" is not the only business in the country that has a union , maybe we should privitize every job in the US. The military, Washington D C, all state jobs, all police and fire departments, every union in every automobile factory and every other organized business in America. I also suggest that they cancel social security and medicare since they dont work great for everybody and will certainly not be there when and if I get to retire. Then someone can charge you 50 cents for every E-MAIL you send or receive. Wow, the Postal Service sounds much better now.

Posted by: Dmailman | March 27, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Somebody deem me up...HOW come we devise a day of cutting DELIVERY service (the very heart and soul of how this all became a business)INSTEAD we here nothing of an idea bought to congress to save BILLION$ in management waste??? "WE DELIVER FOR YOU"(sometimes)

Posted by: zip14052 | March 27, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

They can't do much about the mail and technology. Why doesn't the Post Office try being more aggressive about the parcel service business? Everyday I see FedEx and UPS trucks driving around in circles dropping off packages. Come on, the Post Office has the means to do so, they use everything to move mail, use it to move more parcels. They already have the manpower! Everyday I hear how people hate to go to the Post Office, clecks are so rude, long lines, etc. They should provide all the help in the world to customers! Look at the UPS store, they have supplies and even help you pack or pack your shipments for you. I would rather get full service then half-ass, rude, here you go and get out of here type of service! WHY CAN'T THE POSTAL SERVICE FIGURE THIS OUT? They need to do more to help the customer out and by not having Saturday service is not going to help them. Alot of people work during the week and can't get to the Post Office during their "business hours", so Saturday is their only choice. Their other problem is the old-timers they have working for them. The Post Office needs to find a way to get these guys to retire! They need to have a forced retirement! They don't want to retire because if they stayed at home they would have to do more work, it's easier to keep coming in to work, do less and keep getting paid for it! At one time it was ok to work 30, 40, even 50 years or more but now it's time to go! MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR A NEW POSTMASTER GENERAL!!! One that wants to go forward, NOT BACKWARDS!!! You don't hear from him any other time, except when he wants to cut service and lay people off or when he gets a big bonus and raise. Get someone new that wants to fix things!

Posted by: emtram99 | March 30, 2010 3:50 AM | Report abuse

interesting to find out that despite the many financial woes facing the postal service right now that supervisors and management all got RAISES last week. would love to see them get rid of many unnecessary management positions instead of eliminating saturday delivery!!!

Posted by: luckyme2 | March 30, 2010 10:43 PM | Report abuse

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