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Eye Opener: Gay rights protesters confront Obama

By Ed O'Keefe

Eye Opener

Just days after President Obama extended hospital visitation rights to same-sex couples and amid several other moves extending rights to gay and lesbian Americans, he faced protesters Monday night upset that he has yet to repeal the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

"Repeal 'Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell!'" a protester shouted during Obama's speech at a Los Angeles fundraiser for Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), according to a White House transcript.

"We are going to do that," Obama replied, noting later that Boxer voted against the Pentagon's gay ban.

"That is a key issue, but I think putting Californians back to work is also a key issue," Obama said as he regained control of the room.

The protesters were members of GetEQUAL, according to the White House press pool report. The group's Web site said it will "not accept excuses, delays, compromises, or empty promises" and will "hold accountable any person or organization who stands in the way" of equality for LGBT Americans.

"I am protesting because while I volunteered for, voted for, and still believe in Obama, I also believe is time to repeal don’t ask don’t tell," an apparent protester wrote on tumblr.com.

Though it was a momentary interruption, the outburst highlights simmering impatience among activists upset that Obama hasn't placed a moratorium on discharging service members because of their sexual orientation. The incident also highlights a divide in the gay community between "Those who take to the streets or the Internet vs. those who try to figure out how to get those last five votes on a bill," or put another way, more radical activists versus "Gay, Inc." as The Post's Lonnae O'Neal Parker coincidentally reports today.

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Comments

so have you Obama voters figured out that Obama is a corporatist ?

Posted by: newagent99 | April 20, 2010 8:01 AM | Report abuse

That's California.
Too many Special Interests and endless 'protests' demanding their 'rights'.

That cess pool of a state should be renamed
'Chaosifornia'

Posted by: mosthind | April 20, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

Many in the gay community truely live with blinders on. This administration has moved forward on issues involving the gay community. But it's never enough for those with blinders on. There needs to be an awareness in the gay community that their concerns will NEVER go forward if many citizens begin to see the Obama administration as pro-gay. That's different than the administration protecting civil liberties. It's time for many in the gay community to wake up.

Posted by: mnbvcx | April 20, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

Obama is a radical person as is evident by the speeches he gives and his style of always attacking. I stopped listening to him months ago since its always the same rhetoric. In the future we need a president who has some style and control.

Posted by: 45upnorth | April 20, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

These folks aren't gay rights "protesters," they're gay rights supporters.

Posted by: cellmaker | April 20, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

MEDIA FAIL:

Hypocrisy. A Republican congressman "shouts" "you lie" and interrupts the president's speech and he's a racist. White, gay protesters interrupt the president's speech and they are heroes. Democrats have this scizophrenia (sp?) when it comes to African-Americans. African-Americans vote for Prop. 8 and they are filled with hatred. Maine (with less than a 1% African-American population) bans gay marriage and somehow Gay, Inc. didn't get their message out. Let's talk more about how White Democrats and Gay, White Democrats treat African-Americans - oh I know how they treat them, the same way that tea party folks treat them.

Posted by: george_w_bush0 | April 20, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

The president could de facto repeal DADT by using his position as commander in chief, which he otherwise wallows in.
He can order all military personnel to disregard the existing rules, just as Truman did some 60 years ago to integrate the military.

Posted by: Davidd1 | April 20, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Do it already then. Equality of citizenship is not something to be left until tomorrow.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | April 20, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

About time, I say we take it to the streets like the African Americans had to do in the 60's. When we have rioting then people will listen.

Posted by: charlie-Imac | April 20, 2010 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Obama is exactly where he belongs in the land of fruits and nuts.

Posted by: dashriprock | April 20, 2010 9:32 AM | Report abuse

Lets see......Obama signs law allowing loaded guns in national parks, Guns rights activist immediately form rally in park yesterday armed and loaded protesting Obama is taking away their guns. Obama signs legislation extending rights to Gay and Lesbian couples, Gays are protesting he isn't doing it fast enough. Republicans vote against the stimulus then immediately go out and take pictures at groundbreakings all over America. The financial district and wall street banks ruin this country and a lot of he world markets, Obama pushes for regulation and an end to too big to fail. Republicans immediately join in mass to say they will vote against it. Hmmmmmmmm....What's really bothering ya? (wink! wink!)

Posted by: minco_007 | April 20, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

If you look at a picture of those gay rights "in your face" activists, I doubt a single one would join the military even if it was completely "tolerant" of gays, animal sex lovers, coprophiliacs, Tourettes Syndrome sufferers, etc.
Not to mention anyone who wants to get in badly can lie about homosexuality, past drug use, gang affiliations and many other matters.
Actually, don't even have to lie about the homosexual stuff because the command can't ask. They can ask about other things like gang membership, offensive tattoos, drug and alcohol history...

Posted by: ChrisFord1 | April 20, 2010 9:45 AM | Report abuse

Put up Obama. Or did you make a decision that gays have no other candidate to vote for except a Democrat?
Gays are just another bloc of voters disappointed with "Iwanna make $300 million after I leave the Presidency", Obama.

Posted by: sperrico | April 20, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

"About time, I say we take it to the streets like the African Americans had to do in the 60's. When we have rioting then people will listen."

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Careful or you may get slapped.

Posted by: smynola06 | April 20, 2010 9:55 AM | Report abuse

The gay community should realize Obama is in their corner (Sheppard bill) but has let the commanders call the shots in the military. These heroes are right 99% of the time and Obama smartly will not rock the boat. It shows with the advances made in the war theater.

Posted by: jameschirico | April 20, 2010 10:13 AM | Report abuse

Bozobama is an anti-Semite, hater of Israel. His father was an avowed Communist. His frist school experience was in a Muslim school. If he insists on dividing Jerusalem, literally the U.S. will literally be split apart into two parts by a massive earthquake. Only those who are pro-Israel are good guys. Obama is a bad guy. He is the greatest danger ever to the future of America. He is unAmerican in all his ways. We must cripple him politically in November, and flush him down the toilet in 2012 !

Posted by: raymeo | April 20, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Come on Obama! What are you waiting for? Or do you need to be reminded that not so long ago you'd have to be ridding in the back of the bus? All citizens deserve full and equal civil rights and legal protections...that means GLTB citizens too!

Posted by: lsf07 | April 20, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Obama to protestors:

"Ah, I mailed that check last Tuesday. Yeah, yeah checks in the mail."

Posted by: staterighter | April 20, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

It appears that the gay community has but one interest--its sexuality. Obama has been very supportive, but he's not enough for them. California is repeatedly showing itself to be chaotic, shrill, sodom and gonorrah-type. No model for other states to follow as it used to be. Change is needed.

Posted by: drzimmern1 | April 20, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

Why doesn't obama just let barbara lose her campaign by herself? He only does more harm than good. He does not get the fact that he has lost his popularity.

Posted by: highwaybluesoccer | April 20, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

What a bunch of sickos....


Posted by: Jerzy | April 20, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Worse behavior than those gun toting nuts in Virginia, eh?

Go figure.

Posted by: edbyronadams | April 20, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Question: Why does Obama look and act so angry in the video? Could it be that he is angry that everyone doesn't jus SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN? Hmmmmmm,,,,,maybe it's because he doesn't like his "authority" challenged by anyone. Doesn't he remember that "WE THE PEOPLE" ARE THE ONES WHO GAVE HIM HIS AUTHORITY?

Barbara Boxer is an uncaring ARROGANT Senator who is concerned about her own hold on POWER, not about the concerns of the average Californian. I HOPE THAT THEY CAN SEE THROUGH HER.

Posted by: barrysal | April 20, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

I never did understand why the media acts like it has a responsibility to report on one nut who shouts out interrupting a public figure. It just encourages more such rude behavior. Cut it out.

Posted by: rjma1 | April 20, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

I am 100% behind legalizing gay marriage, repealing DADT, etc. However, the GLBT community needs to acknowledge that Obama's been a tad busy lately. It's not that dealing with these issues is unimportant, but fixing our economy and providing jobs and health care kind of trumps it at the moment. Patience people, patience!

Posted by: jromaniello | April 20, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Boxer is toast in CA. The State's finances are in total disarray and its politicians are detested for their incompetence and corruption across the board. Even the liberal flaky voters have had enough.

Now Barry shows up to the rescue.

Good luck.

Posted by: bandcyuk | April 20, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

If Obama repeals don't ask, don't tell, the Military will be hard pressed for recruits. THE HELL if I'd let my Son or Daughter join the military with a bunch of homosexuals running around in the shower. F - That...

Posted by: AlbyVA | April 20, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

So, Alby, your patriotism is so shallow that you'd refuse to let your son and daughter join the military if gays are allowed to serve?

I'm not really sure we need you or your offspring, if that's how weak a patriot you are.

Posted by: Hillman1 | April 20, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

I thought Obama promised to reverse Clinton's "don't ask don't tell" policy when he was begging rich gays for cash. Or maybe he said he would do it just as soon as he fulfilled his promise to close Gitmo .... which he would do just as soon as he fulfilled his promise to end rendition and secret assassination, which he would do immediately after he ended earmarks, after he held transparent and open heating on the health care take-over. I'm just glad we have an awesome and honest President who keeps his word.

Posted by: Marks1153 | April 20, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Seems the Gays are not so Gay today ???

Posted by: thgirbla | April 20, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

George W. Bush didn't have to face outbursts from unhappy citizens because he would only appear in front of carefully pre-selected audiences.

And when Bush flew all over the country in Air Force One to raise money for Republicans in 2008, the fundraisers were closed to the media.

Posted by: HughBriss | April 20, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Hugh..... LMAO. Are you suggesting that His Awesomeness EVER appears in unscripted sessions with real citizens, asking real questions??????

Posted by: Marks1153 | April 20, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Homosexuality is as biologically normal as pedophilia or necrophilia.....

......and was properly classified as a mental illness until a 3 to 2 vote by the governing body of American psychiatry in the early 1970's at a convention which saw no research presented to initiate or support the vote......

But...Bill Clinton warned us all about those who are dangerously uncivil toward our political betters....this will no doubt, as per Bill Clinton's warning......lead to violent anti-government action by the homosexual left...alert Homeland Security to the impending danger these mentally ill individuals pose to our nation!

Posted by: georgedixon | April 20, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

bandcyuk (April 20, 2010 11:09 AM) writes:

"Boxer is toast in CA. The State's finances are in total disarray blah blah blah ..."

Nice try bandcyuk. But the Governor of California (who is responsible for the state's finances) is a REPUBLICAN who was elected in a special recall election in 2003 that was promoted by California Republicans.

Posted by: HughBriss | April 20, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

UGLY MONKEY!

Posted by: jhayne5 | April 20, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Obama's been a bit busy recently. I do very much hope he repeals DADT soon, though. I sure wish people would stop interrupting the President by yelling things (no matter who the President is). There just seem to be more civil ways of getting your message across. Furthermore, I think it weakens your cause when you appear this rude.

Posted by: damascuspride04 | April 20, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Ah, California, the land of fruit and nuts.

People in Cali just don't understand that the rest of the country is laughing at them!

Posted by: jhayne5 | April 20, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Yes Marks 1153 LYAO, I am suggesting that Obama "appears in unscripted sessions with real citizens, asking real questions."

That's exactly what the news story preceding these comments was describing.

D'oh.

Posted by: HughBriss | April 20, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Though I think any man or woman who wants to sign up for the military should be allowed to do so I don't know if I were a gay man that I'd want that to be known.

Though these folks are a minority there are those soldiers who won't tolerate gays serving with them or sharing a barracks with them.

After all we still get reports of female soldiers being sexually assaulted in the military. Again a minority of soldiers but they are still out there.

But like I said anyone who wants to sign up I welcome them aboard.

Posted by: fmccain | April 20, 2010 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Of course people are impatient about the repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." We also need to pass ENDA and repeal the "Defense of Marriage Act." The anti-gay laws of the 90's should never have been passed in the first place, and of course George Walker Bush would never have dreamed of up holding equality under the law. So yeah, people are impatient. But it is only by pushing for things to change will change happen. Our political "leaders" really are followers. They only get around to things once there is enough pressure to do something, or large enough contributions to their re-election campaign.

Posted by: emsk | April 20, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Selfish self-interests need to take a back seat to the general welfare of the nation. Jeezus....Let the man do his job and he will take care of you twerps in due time.

Posted by: atroncale1 | April 20, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

That picture of Obama makes him look even more as a madman. I hope the picture selection wasn't intentional.

Posted by: hunter340 | April 20, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Ah, California, the land of fruit and nuts.

People in Cali just don't understand that the rest of the country is laughing at them!

Posted by: jhayne5

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They may laugh but are happy to spend our tax money that is dis-proportionally redistributed to the midwest and the south.

Do people actually believe Carly "I tanked HP and Left with a Golden Parachute" Fiorina can successfully do anything? BoBox has been standing up for the majority of Californians for years.

James

Posted by: bs2004 | April 20, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

It is absurd that WP would make this a front page item and pair it with an Obama "action shot." I read this line item and it was without significance. With the varied issues that lesbian and gay communities are actively involved in across the country, its disappointing to see the Post resort to sensationalism of this non-event.

Posted by: acasey2 | April 20, 2010 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Headline: "Eye Opener: Gay rights protesters confront Obama"
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They're just angry racists.

Posted by: srb2 | April 20, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Hugh, you seem to resent the fact that Bush "flew around the country in Air Force One to raise money for Republicans." Do you know exactly how Obama gets around the country? Does he perhaps levitate? And what, exactly, was he doing in California.... raising money for a political hack, perhaps?

Posted by: Marks1153 | April 20, 2010 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Obama is experiencing exactly what I suspected he would. When Republicans are in office, they champion no one except the rich. Everyone else expects nothing from them. When a Democrat is in office, especially this president, everyone left out of the Republican party wants their cause to be the top priority and many want all their issues addressed at once because their issues haven't been addressed in far too long and they think it's way past time "justice is served" (for them personally). In reality, one president cannot "fix" each and every issue that affects all the people that have been marginalized by a system that, let's face it, originally functioned to serve the needs of white conservative males in practice and is slow to change with the times.

One person, even a president who started with the political capital Obama did, cannot wave a magic wand and change all laws instantly to rectify all the things people who voted for that president want "fixed." The president does not control congress, the supreme court, the economy, the education system, etc. Even as commander in chief, the president weighs decisions that fundamentally change the function of the military according to how fast the leaders of the military advise him the structure of the system can accommodate.

In short, give the guy a break; he still isn't through the first year of his first term and he gets nothing but opposition from every member of one party and some of another for everything he tries to do. He's not a magic genie that can pop up to grant each and every wish every time anyone rubs a lantern and commands him to make it so.

Posted by: grantmh | April 20, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

The amount of denegration in some of the comments is not only disturbing, it's ignorant.

California (the state that gave us Reagan) has huge areas of conservative republicans ever heard of orange county?). To call it the "land of fruits an nuts" only proves you've never been there. I used to work for a California law firm who had equal numbers of Morman and Jewish partners (almost all republican).

Gay men serving in the military don't proclaim their sexuality, their silence during converstations (where mostly men discuss their sexual escapades) is enough to bring them into suspect. Until recently a 3rd party could bring the acusation and begin an investigation without any proof whatsoever. Is this America? I personally have known hundreds of gay men and women who have served our country proudly in the military and to suggest otherwise (especially with the label fags) is extremely disrespectful to our vetrans.


We need to start respecting each other as Americans. I am a tax paying gay American man and I've have paid higher taxes my entire life to subsidize your children. I am involved and integrated with my family and community, work hard, and vote. Why should I not have the same rights and responsibilities as any one else?

I can't get the same legal rights of marriage in most states that my straight counterparts don't even have to be sober to receive in Vegas.

It disturbs me greatly to see people use hate and ignorance as a response. Especially as is so often the case these days, it's is done in the name of Jesus.

He would be so proud.


Posted by: mcroriel | April 20, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

The photo of President Obama apparently speaking in anger is totally misrepresentative of his response to the interruption. This is sensational journalism at the expense of accurate reporting. I request the Post change the photo.

Posted by: mg-virginia | April 20, 2010 12:44 PM | Report abuse

Why not send the people opposed to DADT to the front lines and let them die for our country? It'll probably be easier to move forward once we weed those people out.

Posted by: NikkiSixx | April 20, 2010 1:10 PM | Report abuse

to the folks that think opposition to the criminal mr.o is raceist seem too easly mistaken to see mr.o as just a black man not the mixed race self hater of his white side. and no amount of legislation will ever make homosexuality a moral right.

Posted by: sinnersunited | April 20, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Serrvice in the military is not a right. People with Down Syndrome cannot enlist or be commissioned. Neither can quadriplegics. Nothing prevents the hecklers from going to a recruiting station and signing up. They appear to be more interested calling attention to themselves instead of actual service (to the country, that is - they're masters at self-service).

Posted by: hofbrauhausde | April 20, 2010 1:11 PM | Report abuse

Gay bashing? All the Gay protesters want is equality. Why bash that?

Let’s see: eating shellfish is an “abomination” as is homosexuality, so says, biblical Leviticus rulings. Yet, we Americans cannot reject a Maine lobster tail drawn in butter.

Fact is, irregardless the Bible authority, shellfish eating is here to stay and not one person cares who eats stuffed crab or Cherrystone clams.

Accordingly, homosexuality no more an abomination (save in the minds of the homophobic) than shellfish. And, homosexuality, permanently ingrained in our genetic structure, is equally here to stay.

Better Gay bashers save your breath for worthwhile argument, leave peaceful peoples sexuality alone and enroll in an anger management program.

Then, the Gay community can be left in peace, our Country will be better served, and the Gay bashers will have a good chance at outrunning bigotry, homophobic fear, hateful violence; and, with anger management therapy a good chance at controlling some of those ugly tempers.

Posted by: steveswimmer1 | April 20, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

MEDIA FAIL:

Hypocrisy. A Republican congressman "shouts" "you lie" and interrupts the president's speech and he's a racist. White, gay protesters interrupt the president's speech and they are heroes. Democrats have this scizophrenia (sp?) when it comes to African-Americans. African-Americans vote for Prop. 8 and they are filled with hatred. Maine (with less than a 1% African-American population) bans gay marriage and somehow Gay, Inc. didn't get their message out. Let's talk more about how White Democrats and Gay, White Democrats treat African-Americans - oh I know how they treat them, the same way that tea party folks treat them.

Posted by: george_w_bush0 | April 20, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

This Demonic Figure Obama will stop at nothing to Destroy America.

Posted by: makom | April 20, 2010 1:28 PM | Report abuse

This Demonic Figure Obama will stop at nothing to Destroy America.

Posted by: makom | April 20, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Here's where I am with gay issues: I have known many persons over the years who have chosen the gay lifestyle. The vast majority of these individuals I have both liked and respected, and some tremendously so. I felt that way not because of their gay lifestyle choices, but simply because of the way they treated me and others and the manner in which they presented themselves and interacted with others.

Opting to live in an alternative lifestyle, including the so-called gay lifestyle, is a choice. In my view and many others, it is NOT inherent (or predestined from and by birth) within the individual. And further, it is not remotely comparable to objective and genuinely inherent characteristics, such as being born with black or brown skin coloration, or among those with Asiatic or Eskimo lineage and origins.

Over the last 20 or so years, the "Big Lie" has been told and repeated and parroted some many times by so many people (including many notables) that many people have now come to accept it as a truth, meaning that choosing to a gay or another similar alternative lifestyle is the equivalent as being born black or white or male or female.

That assertion, despite having been repeated adnauseum over the last several decades, is not to this date supported with one scintilla of verifiable scientific proof or evidence whatsoever. And truth is not created simply by repeating an assertion over and over and over again.

Posted by: michaelsmith21 | April 20, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"Yes we can!"

O M F G !

Obama looked like he'd been hit with a two by four. He knows this is a nowhere to hide moment, a $#!t or get off the pot moment. "Yes we can!" should be chanted whenever and wherever he starts to give a long-winded explanation about why exactly we can't. He should be reminded of his own words ("Just words?") that he so skillfully used to raise hopes and expectations. The moment I heard that chant and saw Obama's expression I thought of the words in Graham Nash's "Camille, the Winter Soldier":

When you stood up for justice your country replied
By throwing it back in your face.


Obama now has three choices:

1) Prove that yes, we can indeed
2) Own up to his naivete
3) Own up to his cynicism

This is the corner he's painted himself into.


"O-BA-maaaaaa, your SLO-gaaaaaans are coming HOOOOME to ROOOOOOOST!"

Posted by: treetopflyer | April 20, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Obama is facing a quonundrum with the homosexuals. If he goes along with all of their demands, he will be seen as a hero and a "liberator" amongst them; if not he'll be maliciously castigated and hounded down. But then again, if straight people believe he is going too far in accommodating the homosexuals, he will have hell to pay at the ballot box. In any case, it's all politics. Obama is primarily looking out for himself and his political future, and I believe he wishes the homosexuals would just go away and stop bothering him.

Posted by: Tommypie | April 20, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Headline: "Eye Opener: Gay rights protesters confront Obama"
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They're just fat, angry, hateful, redneck racists who are can't live with the fact that the United States elected a black president.

Posted by: srb2 | April 20, 2010 1:43 PM | Report abuse

ALSO, EVEN THO HE IS NOT A GOLFER, IN THIS YEAR I HAVE SPOKEN THIS LOSER HAS GOLFED OVER THIRTY-FIVE TIMES. IN EIGHT YEARS "MR.BUSH PLAYED LESS.

Posted by: otisplumber | April 20, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Um ... did "george_w_bush0" seriously return to this thread to post the exact same comment?

Also mcroriel: Cheers to you! I'm from conservative Orange County and can definitely vouch for what you're saying: These creeps spouting off about "fruits and nuts" and our "cess pool [sic] of a state" haven't got a clue.

Um, there's plenty of reasons so many people flock to California. Never seen a mass migration to, say, the South, just people trying to escape it.

Oh, by the way, the CA's GDP is larger than all but 8 countries in the world. We are largest economy in the country and among the most (if not THE most) diverse states in the Union. Sure times are tough now, but you can bet when the dust of this recession settles CA will find itself back on top again.

I credit my upbringing in the Golden State, my exposure to a diverse range of people, for enabling me to tolerate ignorant louses such as those on this thread who equate being gay to raping children or dead people, who think gays require special needs in the military for their "softer lifestyle" or who would deny their son/daughter the honor of serving because they're afraid of gays.

Get a grip. Better yet, get an education. And please remain in your backwoods shack away from the rest of us, especially California. You're really embarrassing your great-grandchildren.

Posted by: NikkiSixx | April 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I served in the USAF with a few probable gays back in the 50s & 60s. As long as they kept their hands to themselves there was no problem. Government, with help from activists seeking forced acceptance of their life style, has only created problems where none existed.

Posted by: eldergent | April 20, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

The ban on gays in the military is quite ridiculous. I am sure the same arguments were made in the 40s and 50s about integrating the military with black soldiers, preserving unit cohesions. Just drop the ban already. It's not like there will be a large influx of openly flamboyant gays entering if the ban is lifted. The military still tends to attract those on the political right side of the spectrum, those from the midwest and south, and those from lower socio-economic backgrounds. These people aren't exactly welcoming or understanding of gay culture.

However, if blacks have been able to successfuly integrate the military gays can as well.

Posted by: jabreal00 | April 20, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

michaelsmith21 wrote:

...Opting to live in an alternative lifestyle, including the so-called gay lifestyle, is a choice. In my view and many others, it is NOT inherent (or predestined from and by birth) within the individual...

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Studies indicate that stressors on pregnant women during particular periods of gestation coincide with higher rates of homosexuality in their children. It's relatively rare for more than one homosexual child to occur among siblings raised together in the same family. This may further indicate prenatal biological factors (if not genetic) over choice. People raised in the same environment are more likely to share similar family values on big issues, not less likely, so one could argue multiple gay siblings should be the norm, not the exception if sexuality was based on choice and ideology.

Do this experiment. Imagine with as much graphic detail as you can, engaging in sex with someone of the same gender as yourself. Generate a full-length imaginary instance from initial seduction to completion in your mind as vividly as you can. Take note of how that makes you feel. Does it turn you on? Are you even capable of imagining it at all without becoming acutely uncomfortable to your core. Do you find the thought of participating in homosexual activity disturbing, or worse? Then ask yourself at what age you chose to be straight. I think with even minimal effort after that exercise, you'll see that homosexuals don't chose to be so any more than you do, and that if you were in an environment where homosexual activity was the norm, you wouldn't be anymore able to chose it to 'get along' than a homosexual would be able to chose to be straight.

Ask any inmate if it would be more convenient for them to chose to be gay in federal prison. I bet you'll find they don't change their sexual 'preference' no matter what would be the easiest 'choice' to make for the sake of conformity to a particular environment.

No one has to hide the fact they're straight to get into the military, or renounce that part of their humanity, or sever outward ties to their loved ones to stay in. The same should apply in reverse to homosexuals who serve their country with at least as much risk to life and limb.

However, there is only so much one person can do at a time to influence the acceptance of societal changes in a closed environment like the US military. Obama is doing more to move the discussion forward in their favor than any other president to date, and will most likely continue, probably I predict until DADT is abandoned. I think the hecklers in this article are unwisely screaming at the best friend they have on the issue.

Posted by: grantmh | April 20, 2010 2:54 PM | Report abuse

1st - it would be wrong for people to conflate loud, angry flambouyant gay activists basking in the attention they get to ordinary gays, many conservative - who join.
Few if any of the former group - leftist foppish, hysteric queens - have any interest whatsoever in serving in the Armed Forces. Only in bashing service, blocking having students have the opportunity to join ROTC.
The latter group of gays, most gays, wouldn't mind DADT being dropped..but being an officer that served with many in from the Gulf War to a few years after DADT..they had everyday issues as a bigger priority. Same with their BFs or partners in and out of the service. Culturally, politically, tempermentally - the gays I knew who served professionally and with ability - are Worlds Removed from the screaming, angry Gay-Left activists purportedly "championing" them.

Posted by: ChrisFord1 | April 20, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Lots and lots of misinfomration posted here, begining with the post itself. Obama has done NOTHING for gay rights to date. Anyone who thinks he has spent a single dime of political capitol on the gay community is a political moron. he has been consistently reluctant to advance any of the major issues he promised to deliver on when he took office, and the frustration from the gay community stems from the knoweldge that come this fall, when the democrats lose a significant number of seats, if not the majority, in both houses, no piece of gay rights legislation has a shot to move through Congress.

There was a window of opportunity last year, and a sliver of opportunity now, to get something done, but Obama doesn't want to. So if the gay community is angry, they have a right to be.

Posted by: gilbert6 | April 21, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

It is important to remember that all of us in uniform must up-hold the policies of our command. It is part of our role as public servants. There are many issues I would like to speak up on but can not as an officer in the Army. Capt. Donald M Larsen 363 PAD

Posted by: akathedonald | April 21, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

Pluralism. It's tough being prez. You've really got to pander to everyone, which of course is impossible. I'm glad it's not my job. : )

Posted by: devotchka84 | April 21, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

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