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Mother of student who questioned Michelle Obama will not face action

By Ed O'Keefe

Updated 3:18 p.m. ET
The mother of a Maryland second-grader who questioned First Lady Michelle Obama about the Obama administration's immigration policy will not be deported, federal officials said Thursday.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement will not take action against the mother, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

“ICE is a federal law enforcement agency that focuses on smart, effective immigration enforcement that prioritizes criminal aliens who pose a threat to our communities," spokesman Matthew Chandler said in an e-mail. "Our investigations are based on solid law enforcement work and not classroom Q and As.”

On Wednesday the little girl asked Obama why the president was "taking everybody away that doesn't have papers."

"That's something that we have to work on, right? To make sure that people can be here with the right kind of papers," Obama said.

"But my mom doesn't have any papers," the student said as the first lady ended her answer.

The exchange went viral almost immediately and provided the most unscripted, "real world" moment of an otherwise over-scripted series of events in honor of Mexican President Felipe Calderon's state visit.

In an interview conducted in Spanish after the event, the 7-year old girl told a reporter: “I’m a big girl and I don’t want to be left with nothing. I could almost die.”

“My mommy wants papers so that she can be here legally, so that she doesn’t have to go to Peru,” the girl said (according to a rough translation by the bilingual Eye.)

ICE removed a record 387,790 illegal immigrants in the year ending Sept. 30, 2009, according to the agency. That's a 5 percent increase over the same period in 2008, when the agency removed 369,221 illegal immigrants. The agency deported 298,401 of those immigrants in 2009, and the rest left on their own power.

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Comments

Good! The first time I saw the video I was just heartbroken for the little girl. I could just imagine some crazy minute man staking out the elementary school to find the girl, follow her home and call ICE. The little girl should not have to be burdened with getting her mother thrown out of the country. No little kid should have to shoulder that guilt. I hope the Peruvian Embassy does the right thing and makes this mother a legal immigrant. They should hire her to work at the Embassy until she can get her paperwork in order.

Posted by: cminmd1 | May 20, 2010 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Illegal is illegal. No way around it in my book. Both should go back to Peru.

Posted by: jarresm | May 20, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

I wonder who coached the little girl to ask the question. I doubt a seconder grader would know that this was the time and place to bring this up.

Posted by: waterfrontproperty | May 20, 2010 1:59 PM | Report abuse

I was just wondering if people that support illegal immigration could check a box on their tax return and pay an additional tax to fund the illegals?

Posted by: dnha | May 20, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

"Our investigations are based on solid law enforcement work and not classroom Q and As."
bwaahahahaha
If someone admits to a crime on national television, that is not solid evidence?

Posted by: WhatBubble | May 20, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

For the bleeding heart liberal who was "heartbroken" you need to get some smarts.
Neither of the Obama's leave "spontaneity" to chance. This was staged to provide "the papers" for the little latino's illegal Mom. Disgusting but not unexpected. Both of them are contemptible.

Posted by: sandynh | May 20, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

The mother of that student should immediately be deported. Why are we using our tax dollars to teach illegal aliens. This is screwed up. Back to Mexico they go, and also no more anchor baby laws. We are the only country in the world stupid enough to have that law.

Posted by: joanz3 | May 20, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

I think the Arizona law is overboard but think this woman should be deported. Illegal is illegal; turning our land into a Nazi/French police state isn't the answer, but when someone hands you evidence you use it. No sympathy for illegals, sorry. I work and pay tens of thousands of dollars a year to the government in taxes. No freeloaders, please.

Posted by: Plutonium57 | May 20, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Why? What is legal about illegal?

Posted by: wjc1va | May 20, 2010 2:18 PM | Report abuse

What a fool anyone would be to think that the little girl's mother would want to jeopardize her situation by prompting her daughter to ask a question like that with the nation watching. But, of course, without the misinformed, there would be no need for a comments section here.

Posted by: mpmck | May 20, 2010 2:20 PM | Report abuse

This has been an Obama/Calderon/LaRaza production. Produced to stir up sympathy for illegal immigrants. The plot is an old Hollywood cliche. Use small children to get cheap sobs and sniffles of sympathy.

Cast: Michelle Obama as the American dupe

Little, illegal immigrant girl as the little, illegal immigrant girl

The End

Posted by: battleground51 | May 20, 2010 2:21 PM | Report abuse

If a child makes a public declaration that a crime has been committed, then there is probable cause.

Posted by: c_e_daniel | May 20, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Im sure those on this post that think the girl was coached to answer this question can prove it correct? And im not talking about Rush and his drug aided comments. So who coached this girl? Lets see some answers, not the parroting of Fox and Rush.

Posted by: rharring | May 20, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

As long as children of "illegals" are legal by being born here in the US, we will not solve this issue.

Posted by: yaahoobart | May 20, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

The question was probably a plant.

Posted by: yetanotherpassword | May 20, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The real question is if the mother has actually "tried" to get papers. If there is a problem with that, then the system is indeed broke. Kids pick up on stuff and are generally pretty truthful at that age. But I have no doubt there may have been some prompting to get the question raised.

Posted by: qwnofspdz | May 20, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

okay - I'll check a Form 1040 box & pay $5-10 more in taxes to help illegals. Bet some others will, too. Heaven forbid bleeding hearts should burden real Americans.

Posted by: arzt | May 20, 2010 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Gee, too bad. I wanted to see her mother in cuffs doing the perp walk. But again this is
Montgomery County, MD. All illegal, all the time!

Posted by: agwilson1399 | May 20, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Yes, the question was probably a plant. If not, why should we ignore a violation of our rules? What is the point of having them if we can openly violate them? Why, with unemployment 10%, and schools overcrowded, should we support illegal aliens?

Posted by: jackson641 | May 20, 2010 2:35 PM | Report abuse

"Our investigations are based on solid law enforcement work and not classroom Q and As.”

Of course, making a house call to the mother wouldn't fall under solid law enforcement and would never occur to them.

In other words, break any laws you like as long as you're politically correct

Posted by: drjcarlucci | May 20, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

joanz3 - you do know that there is a difference between "Mexico" and "Peru", don't you?

Posted by: araker | May 20, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Once again the Democrats fail to uphold the law of the land. The Mother is in the country illegally - she should be removed and deported. If Obama does not do this he should be impeached.

Posted by: Realist201 | May 20, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

It is kind of ironic, though. MOCO schools are facing huge budget cuts, Weast is complaining that there are an additional 2800 kids next year, and this girl, whose family pays NO state or local income tax, sits in the classroom next to the president's wife. This is truly a free country for some people. the rest of us pay taxes.

Posted by: martintomsal | May 20, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

I kinda think only illegals should become citgizens. Anyone who wants to come here and workwork so badly and has the guts and skill to make it through the gauntlet and then get a job should be welcomed.

Posted by: dottie_b | May 20, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately if the little girl had said "Mommy smoked a funny looking cigarette" you can expect that guys in black uniforms with guns would break down their door at 3 in the morning and shoot their dog. The police spokesman would say everyone acted according to protocol and would then state they intend to implement a classroom Q and A program county wide. Whoever shot the dog would get 2 weeks off with pay and then get promoted upon return.

Posted by: permagrin | May 20, 2010 2:46 PM | Report abuse

She and her illegitimate child should be deported, and the anger that this will generate will have very bad consequences for this country. This is no heart string matter, but one of national survival.

Posted by: hared | May 20, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

I wish Obama had the guts to liberalize the immigration regime. More immigrants = more prosperity. Providing a route to citizenship for those already here = bigger tax base. Immigration is the history of America and America only has a future with immigration. The 65+ generation that doesn't want its social security cut better come up with a way to fund their benefits and be racists at the same time.

Posted by: aksunder | May 20, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Where do all the wicked people who post their hate on the internet come from? How is it that people become so cynical and paranoid they believe an eight-year old girl is a pawn for some kind of covert government propaganda campaign? Did everyone forget that the vast majority of people who now inhabit this great land originally came from another country in search of better life for their family?

Posted by: arealperson | May 20, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

martintomsal: If MOCO is facing school budget problems, it's not because her mom isn't paying taxes. Counties fund school budgets from property taxes. Unless they are homeless, they are paying those taxes; either as homeowners themselves or as part of the rent they pay. Not to mention that they pay the local sales taxes every time they buy something.

Find something else to blame on illegals. Maybe global warming?

Posted by: WK437 | May 20, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Let us assume that there are 3 million illegals in the US. I hear politicians spouting that it would be impossible to deport them all. I question that. There are around 300 Million people in the US. If 3 million, mostly low paid workers and their (large) families were deported, the consequences would be less than hurricane Katrina, and the benefits to the taxpayers would be enormous. Obama's job is to enforce the immigration law as it is. Not as he would like it to be.

Posted by: jack29 | May 20, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Send her back to Peru!

Look, there are legal means of immigrating to America. These people skip the line.

If you stand up in front of law enforcement officials and announce you've broken the law, how can they ignore it?

Just more of the same from the Obamas: different treatment for different people. Different rights for different groups.

Posted by: diesel_skins_ | May 20, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

Imagine if the girl noted that her mother was cheating on her taxes. I doubt that her mother would not be confronted with this obligation. However, I gather from the comments of others, that if the girl was really, really, really cute and was from a really, really, really politically correct ethinicity (e.g., their own ethnicity) they would let them go.

Posted by: TDK5 | May 20, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

I was just wondering if people that support illegal immigration could check a box on their tax return and pay an additional tax to fund the illegals?

Posted by: dnha | May 20, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse
____________________-

And right back at you --

HOW MANY OF YOU TEABAGGERS would pay an extra VAT TAX solely designed for the purpose of securing the borders and shipping out ILLEGALS>

NOOOOO DON"T RAISE TAXES NOOOOO
So STHU until you are willing to stand behind your words

Posted by: racerdoc | May 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

“ICE is a federal law enforcement agency that focuses on smart, effective immigration enforcement that prioritizes criminal aliens who pose a threat to our communities," Chandler said in an e-mail. "Our investigations are based on solid law enforcement work and not classroom Q and As.”
==========================================

Well it looks like your solid law enforcement isn't as effective as a Q&A session with second graders! LOL

And not to say that you will not deport a known illegal? Why is that? It is because that would create a political firestorm that the Democrats just cant afford right now. So they hope this story will just go fade away..??

Why isn't Obama and the Democrats doing more to control illegal immigration?
I thank god for laws like those in Arizona! Illegals need to learn that they just cant come into our country and use our resources. They need to get the proper paperwork!

ANd I do not know why the legal immigrants do not get mad at the illegals. The illegals only force us to make harder laws. The legal immigrants should be furious at the illegals for problems they are creating. If everyone just followed the law everything would be fine!

Thanks Obama for another great job at ignoring our nations laws for your own political gains!

Posted by: sanmateo1850 | May 20, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone seriously believe that the mother was going anywhere? What a mess.

Posted by: bbface21 | May 20, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

sanmateo1850,

If your going to blame Obama then you need to blame every president, because they to also ignored this law. Oh thats right we are in the Blame Obama for everything state.

Posted by: rharring | May 20, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

So now we have it: ICE is now officially part of the 5th column.

They allege that they removed 387,000 illegals last year. Great, but there's 12,000,000 to 20,000,000 in this country. 387,000 is just a drop in the bucket.

Posted by: traderdad37 | May 20, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

You know what is even more funny. The news outlet claims in there coverage "Tensions with Mexico", when it turns out that the little girl's mother is from Peru! LOL!!! How is that related to Mexico? Silly liberals cant even get their coverage of the new right!

Just send illegals home. It is call responsibility and accountability for ones actions! That is why we have laws! It is not up to the police or judges, and especially politicians, to determine which laws to enforce! The woman is in this country illegally, she should be arrested and deported. If that means the little girl has to leave to, then so be it! It will teach her a lesson!

Posted by: sanmateo1850 | May 20, 2010 3:33 PM | Report abuse

@rharring

You had no problem over the past 10 year of "Blame Bush". What's wrong now with providing an equal opportunity to the Obamassiah?

The guy has OWNED the government for 16 months. If he wanted to do something, ANYTHING, he could have done it by now.

But he doesn't want to do anything. This is working just fine for him.

Posted by: traderdad37 | May 20, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Illegal means illegal.

The INS needs to get over there and pick them up because that is a felony.

Posted by: lindalovejones | May 20, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

@racerdoc

Why do you use the term teabagger? It's degrading to you and your target. Do you think these people really wrap their lips around a man's testicles and move them up and down while pulsating their tongues on this end of his testicles? Maybe some of the females and the gay ones do, but I doubt most do. So why do you infer that and why do you denigrate your debate by using these terms?

Posted by: traderdad37 | May 20, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Please leave this little precious girl alone; she asked an innocent but thought provoking question & the first lady answered it sincerely with the scripted version of fluff. Reporters & hate mongers step back, leave the honest hard working family alone. No law is cast in iron, with so many evils in the world & so many dishonest crooks are in this country, they are American born crooks & although they possess citizenship, they lack integrity and commit crimes worse than being an illegal alien. If our leaders can tolerate unscrupulous American citizens, surely they can look at immigration situation with a broader view in a more honest and holistic manner.

This is supposedly a land of promises, dream come true, a melting pot which is now contaminated by the evil & dirt of its people, immigration needs to evaluate the cases in light of their history & background.

Posted by: shamahussain | May 20, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Where do all the wicked people who post their hate on the internet come from? How is it that people become so cynical and paranoid they believe an eight-year old girl is a pawn for some kind of covert government propaganda campaign? Did everyone forget that the vast majority of people who now inhabit this great land originally came from another country in search of better life for their family?

Posted by: arealperson | May 20, 2010 2:59 PM

...where do all of these traitorous jews, catholics and blacks get off that they speak for the majority who aren't having any of it. The ACLU and media jews, dinwitted and opportunistic blacks and traitorous latino/hispanic catholics will reap an angry whirlwind here soon, and without sympathy nor quarter. Traitors will always be dealt with in the harshest measure, and deservedly so.

Posted by: hared | May 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Don't blame the child. The mother is simply providing the best she can for her family. My question is for the teabaggers, partiers, misfits or whatever you call yourselves now.

Who hired the illegal mother? What punishment is appropriate for hiring an illegal immigrant?

So far in the USA there are no penalties enforced, only benefits for the employer of illegal immigrants-----NO employee benefits expense, pay under legal rates for wages, no overtime pay. The list goes on.

If you don't want illegal immigrants here try not hiring them. It works every time.

Don't hire them then complain they are here.

Posted by: randy-texas | May 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

racerdoc | May 20, 2010 3:21 PM
-------------------------------------------

It is truly pathetic that you don't know the difference between supporting ILLEGAL aliens and securing the border (a Constitutional mandate). If you want to support illegal’s (harboring a criminal is what it really is) go right ahead, but don't use tax dollars to do it! On the other hand, tax dollars are, in fact, meant for expenditure on SECURING THE BORDER!!!!

PATHETIC but completely expected from liberal scum.

BaO is poison!!!

TBC ~:>{)

Posted by: TheBlackCherokee | May 20, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Why would a parent even discuss something like this with a seven-year-old child?

And what about the children of the ID theft victims who had their SSNs stolen by illegals?

Posted by: pepperjade | May 20, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

I agree with many other posters. I think the question was a plant meant to trip up the First Lady. The context was a little sophisticated for the average second grader especially when English is not her first language. And whatever action is taken (or not taken) it's a no-win situation. To not take action is a slap in the face to taxpayers and immigrants to our country that follow the rules. To deport the woman would escalate already inflamed feelings over the immigration issue. Personally, I would want an investigation to see if the mother has ever taken steps to get legal papers and if not why not. In the meantime her child is being educated for free by the taxpayers of an already overburdened, overtaxed county. Where is the justice in that?

Posted by: Frustratededucator | May 20, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

She knew she was breaking the law. Sorry, she put her dayghter in this position but they need to go home. I'm sure they have family in Peru so it's not like they are being sent to never-never land. This government needs to get a spine and do heir job. It is their job to enforce the Constitution of the United States. That is what they are there for. If they feel uncomfortable doing the job, step down and let someone else do it. If I didn't do my job...I would be fired. guess what...don't do your job...get fired!

Posted by: xmack | May 20, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

This is yet another example of the establishment turning a blind eye and pretending that there isn't a problem.

Posted by: d17574 | May 20, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

And right back at you --

HOW MANY OF YOU TEABAGGERS would pay an extra VAT TAX solely designed for the purpose of securing the borders and shipping out ILLEGALS>

NOOOOO DON"T RAISE TAXES NOOOOO
So STHU until you are willing to stand behind your words

Posted by: racerdoc | May 20, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Here's an idea: How about levying REAL fines (and jail time) against the employers of illegals to pay for this? And forcing the employers to pay restitution to the victims of ID theft (like my former intern, who had an illegal steal her SSN and do $500,000 in damage to her credit report by defaulting on credit cards, car loan and mortgage). It's okay for an illegal to steal an ID--then why not a tweaker? You want to offer up YOUR SSN, then have the state and federal government call you demanding you pay back taxes on income you never earned (as was the case with my intern)?

Posted by: pepperjade | May 20, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Of all the reactions I expected when I heard about this story, I never imagined anyone would jump to the conclusion that the question was a plant. Is it because so many people are conspiracy minded by nature? Or is it because Rush Limbaugh is doing the thinking for you?

Posted by: Rachelva | May 20, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Any discussion about IMMIGRATION is REALLY a discussion about WORLD POVERTY. Any successful approach to immigration will have to include a companion approach to World Poverty. Honestly, ask yourself if you had to cross a boarder to feed your children, help your parents or save your family, would you? What do you think would change about "our immigration problem" if the 43,000 TONS of food thrown away in the US each day was shared, if 2.5 Billion people didn't lack access to improved sanitation, if 1 Billion children weren't deprived of one or more services essential to survival and development and if 23,000 children under the age of 5 didn't die each day from poverty, hunger, easily preventable diseases and illnesses?

Posted by: WhatsTheREALQestion | May 20, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

How did we evolve from a nation of immigrants to a nation that reviles immigrants?

Posted by: jahysell | May 20, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

We are fortunate to live in this land of opportunity, where so many millions want to live. And we are all (unless 100% Native American) sons and daughters of immigrants. Immigrants built this great country, and today's immigrants have much to offer. But the operative words here are "legal" and "illegal." If you break a law in any country, you pay the consequences. Why should the U.S. be different, or give special treatment to illegal immigrants? They should be treated in the same way as all criminals. A serious problem arises when illegals have children born in the U.S., who are automatically U.S. citizens. This is the law that needs to be changed, so that only the children born here of LEGAL immigrants are automatically citizens. That way, when an illegal is discovered, there is no problem about splitting up a family, since the child will also be illegal. This problem was not created by the Obama administration, but hopefully they'll find a way to solve it. Other sovereign nations have the right to enforce their own laws; so should we, whether other countries like it or not.

Posted by: blipson | May 20, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

For everyone who feels she should be deported...are you willing to open your home to this little girl who is likely a US Citizen? And if not, will you (for the person who posted the suggestion) check a box on you 1040s that allows you to donate to the fund that will house, feed, clothe and education these orphan children whose parents were deported by you?

Why is deportation the automatic answer? How many of you have ancestry lines that go back to biblical times on American soil? For those of us who have ancestors who immigrated here from other countries...were they all legal? I challenge you to check before you answer that question...

Why isn't there a call to help these illegal parents of US born children to become naturalized?

Posted by: tr_gina | May 20, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Can't we just get beyond the namecalling and
look at this objectively? Any feeling person
would not want to see this child separated
from her mother. And yes, most of us can
trace our lineage back to immigrants from
other lands. BUT -- there is something about
the word "illegal" that can't be ignored. If I speed or if I rob a bank, etc., I am subject
to fines and other penalties -- BECAUSE I broke
the law! Why is that so difficult to understand? If the situation were reversed and
we were the "illegals" in other lands, how do you think we might be handled? If we crossed
the border into Mexico in these numbers, what
do you think might happen? I shudder to think.
Me

Posted by: dbhorto | May 20, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Naturally, why would anyone in the Regime enforce the law?

They won't.

They are too busy offering bribes to sitting Congressmen to try and buy elections for people like Arlen Specter.

Why would we expect anyone to uphold the law when we are talking about liberal-progressives?

After all, they have their own standard of conduct and that standard is that consequences are for people who aren't liberal-progressives.

Posted by: rainmaker1145 | May 20, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

jarresm says it all, "ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL".
You don't 'SORT' of rob a bank, or 'SORT' of murder someone, or 'SORT' of carjack somebody. If you are here in America ILLEGALLY, you are a CRIMINAL!
PERIOD!
There is nothing to prevent ICE from deporting the illegal aliens as well as their anchor babies. The illegal scourge is draining the American taxpayers dry.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

Posted by: starrman | May 20, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Where did all the 'hate' droids originate ? It's called "I don't have to be responsible for my comments, because I am comfortably anonymous". So, no respect, honesty, truth, decency, etc. need apply because no one knows who they are and cannot be held accountable for drivel like "send them back to Mexico" when the person is from Peru or "Obama has had the government for 16 months.. he could have done it by now." have no concept that the Republican filibuster has held the reforms hostage from the beginning and are just now beginning to fall apart. SURPRISE ! It will take a few more than 16 months to repair the destruction to the U.S. and world by Cheney & Company (you remember the other guy).

Posted by: jjaymc | May 20, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

What part about ILLEGAL isn't understood here. Everyone of these people knew the consequences of coming over our borders without papers. ICE should be deporting people without papers--mothers or not.

Posted by: janecolby | May 20, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Oh Geez! ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL! Just because the girl had a chance to talk to the First Lady, doesn't mean her mother gets all the privilege. That's just not fair. Her mother should have exactly the same treatment as any other illegal person and get deported.

Posted by: inphri | May 20, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Do you think this was unscripted? I do. Do you think it was spontaneous? I do. Do you believe in the tooth fairy? I do. Do you believe in Santa Claus? I do. And I should know,I'm the King of France. It's nice to be the king!

Posted by: georgewhetstine | May 20, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

So much hatred, xenophobia, and assumptions displayed here! I don't think the girl was a plant: 8-year-olds overhear conversations at home and repeat them in part or whole when least expected (former elem. school teacher here). And we do NOT know if English is her 2nd language - more than likely she is growing up truly bilingual. The illegals need to be dealt with individually. And as others have said...be sure you don't hire one if you are so violently opposed to them breathing our air. Mrs. Obama handled the question appropriately - without causing apparent angst or hope in the girl. Get a grip...if the mother is working, she's probably doing something that Americans don't want to do! And as far as illegals taking jobs from Americans, think about the "outsourcing" that sends very good, white-collar jobs overseas!

Posted by: DecafDrinker | May 20, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

So being in the country illegally, not paying taxes , getting free healthcare and and education is "ok"... I guess the President of Mexico really did put Obama and us in our place..

Is it illegal to be here illegally or not? I'm confused....

Posted by: tbastian | May 20, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

This chance encounter does have the feel of being staged. I am an Obama supporter. I also see the necessity for having border control, control of all of our borders. The landowners in Arizona are having to feel the brunt of the inaction in WA. DC. Picture your own frustration and fears if people were crossing your property night and day. It is common sense to want to feel safe. There is a need for this policy to be shifted out of the purely political arena, ie needing the Hispanic vote, to realizing that in today's world we are at risk from illegal drugs, terrorists, the gamut! Let's get serious as in "the flight to the moon." We can do it if we set our minds and politicians to it. The country will be the better for having an immigration policy that is enforceable and that is followed.

Posted by: carolsbarber | May 20, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I see the room is chock full of racist ignoramuses once again. Three cheers for you and your Nazi hero Rand Paul. Perhaps you'd consider deporting yourselves...oh and take Ron Paul with you as well.

Posted by: dc1020008 | May 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I wish some people would use common sense prior to posting their emotions.

Fact: We would spend ourselves to Greece trying to build a fence along the entire border and deporting all of the illegal immigrants.

Furthermore, do we want to spend all of our money building a bubble around this country, or do we want to spend that money to make investments in the future of this country (telecommunications infrastructure, better schools, etc.).

Would it be desirable that we not have this problem? Of course, but that is not reality today and it will not be reality tomorrow.

Posted by: BT23 | May 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Good old loco moco. You guys didn't get a well deserved reputation as a sanctuary county overnight.

Posted by: biffgrifftheoneandonly | May 20, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Thanks goodness the federal government has enough sense and compassion to make clear that the little girl and her mother will not be deported. Can you imagine the front page news stories all over the world when the U.S. government arrests a mother and child because the 7 year old spoke to the First Lady and revealed that her mother was illegal? We are a better country than that!!

Posted by: gary16 | May 20, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

racerdoc...we are already paying taxes to control the border(s) and you want to add a VAT. That seems to be typical of the juliets. Let'm all in and drive the wages down enough so that we can all get off the tax rolls and start rioting in the streets like in Greece.

Posted by: alantich2000 | May 20, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

If you're asking if I would pay extra taxes to fix the broken immigration system -- absolutely, and I hope you would too! Then we could have a situation in which national security would not have to be synonymous with injustice against the very kind of hardworking people who settled our nation.

But I think the question is inherently flawed. I think you are asking if I would pay extra taxes to cover illegals' costs. I'm a bit bewildered by the question, since illegals pay for themselves, and then some. In 2004 alone, the IRS got an influx of $40 BILLION that was mismatched with SSNs (a classic strategy of the illegal worker). The best numbers I can find for total cost of illegal education is $11 Billion, and emergency medical coverage is $1 Billion. Even if the numbers are a bit off, $40 Billion - $12 Billion still comes to an awful lot of Billions for the rest of us to play with! Hey, thanks guys for bailing us out, in addition to keeping our economy afloat!
!Muchas gracias, amigos!

Posted by: bombera | May 20, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Clearly we are all mistaken. Here I thought America lived under a rule of law. I guess that only applies to American citizens and not illegals. So, let me get this straight. The Obama's believe that if I break the law like not paying taxes, etc. I should be prosecuted. But if I break the law as an illegal alien, that's OK because we feel sorry for people who break that particular law. Interesting way for a former law professor to look at the law. Laws are only to be obeyed by those of us who were born here or arrived legally.

Posted by: Daisy5 | May 20, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Clearly we are all mistaken. Here I thought America lived under a rule of law. I guess that only applies to American citizens and not illegals. So, the Obama's believe that if I break the law like not paying taxes, etc. I should be prosecuted. But if I break the law as an illegal alien, that's OK because we feel sorry for these people who ignore immigration laws. Interesting way for a former law professor to look at the law. Laws are only to be obeyed by those of us who were born here or arrived legally. Otherwise, don't bother. What an administration.....-

Posted by: Daisy5 | May 20, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

The logic here is staggering. Just because the kid volunteered the existence of a crime, the Executive branch isn't going to enforce the law?

If the kid had said, "I saw my mommy kill someone," should the police drop it?

It wasn't all that long ago when Balloon Boy's father was forced to pay for the cost of the balloon hoax. The only reason they figured that out was because the kid accidentally let it slip during the TV interview. Should the police have ignored that too?

and to jahysell: we are not a nation that reviles immigrants. we revile ILLEGAL immigrants. do not confuse the two.

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | May 20, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Illegal is illegal. No way around it in my book. Both should go back to Peru.

Posted by: jarresm | May 20, 2010 1:56 PM |
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That's a little girl you want to welcome to this country - bright, plain-spoken, thoughtful, loyal. Find a way.

Posted by: essbird | May 20, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

...where do all of these traitorous jews, catholics and blacks get off that they speak for the majority who aren't having any of it. The ACLU and media jews, dinwitted and opportunistic blacks and traitorous latino/hispanic catholics will reap an angry whirlwind here soon, and without sympathy nor quarter. Traitors will always be dealt with in the harshest measure, and deservedly so.

Posted by: hared | May 20, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse
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Where does a hate-mongering demon like you get off thinking that you speak for the majority?! You're a mean and evil person and I feel very sorry for you and even more sorry for anyone that has to live with or be around you!

Unless you are Native American Indian, then your family came to this country from another land. I only wish that people like you would go back to that land!

Posted by: FFXMom | May 20, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Jarresm - what a compassionate guy you are!

Posted by: Kansas28 | May 20, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Immigration is an issue that should be examined on an objective basis. Not an emotional one. The sympathy factor is what many organizations play off of, and Americans most always fall for it. Illegals are just that,illegal. Our governments responsibility is to American citizens first & foremost. Illegals sbould be deported back to their country of origin.

Posted by: dterry1 | May 20, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

I find it disappointing that so many posters assume that undocumented workers pay no taxes. I wish they would cite their source for that. Of course they pay taxes. Property tax on rental or owned homes, sales tax, and also income tax, medicare and social security. Read on.

http://www.azcentral.com/business/articl…
Illegal immigrants pay taxes, too

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - The tax system collects its due, even from a class of workers with little likelihood of claiming a refund and no hope of drawing a Social Security check.

Illegal immigrants are paying taxes to Uncle Sam, experts agree. Just how much they pay is hard to determine because the federal government doesn't fully tally it. But the latest figures available indicate it will amount to billions of dollars in federal income, Social Security and Medicare taxes this year. One rough estimate puts the amount of Social Security taxes alone at around $9 billion per year

The impact on Social Security is significant, though, because most of that money is never claimed by the people who pay it but instead helps cover retirement checks to legal workers.

Federal law prohibits paying Social Security to illegal immigrants, but the administration factors in both legal and illegal immigration when projecting the trust fund's long-term solvency.

That adds up to roughly $90 billion in federal taxes during they eight-year period. He calculates that illegal immigrants contributed $428 billion dollars to the nation's $13.6 trillion gross domestic product.

Posted by: maymo | May 20, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

We have laws in this country. Not putting this woman in drportation is allowing a lawbreaker to go free. Anyone who breaks the laws should be punished for it. SHe deserves no break. Put her in deportation. This is why we have an illegal alien problem - the government will NOT ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY.

Posted by: Lavrat2000 | May 20, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Let us maintain a moment of silence as we see our First Lady display typical bigotry we see so much in elected officials.

Mrs. Obama, please do not deport ANYONE. Thank you.

Posted by: flaxseedsrgood | May 20, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

tr_gina wrote:
"For everyone who feels she should be deported...are you willing to open your home to this little girl who is likely a US Citizen? And if not, will you (for the person who posted the suggestion) check a box on you 1040s that allows you to donate to the fund that will house, feed, clothe and education these orphan children whose parents were deported by you?
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Please! While the child may be impacted, the parents can decide when face with deportation whether the child can stay in the country or go with them to the nation from whence they came. The child may be a US citizen (we don't know). If she is, she can stay in the US with legal relatives/friends, or return to the US at a later time. That the child may be a US Citizen is not material to the breaking of the law that the mother/parents committed if they are here illegally.


tr_gina wrote:
Why is deportation the automatic answer? ===========================================
It's pretty much the law. Why is it not the answer?, would be my question to you.


tr_gina wrote:
How many of you have ancestry lines that go back to biblical times on American soil? For those of us who have ancestors who immigrated here from other countries...were they all legal? I challenge you to check before you answer that question...
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I challenge you to actually ask a question that makes sense.


tr_gina wrote:
Why isn't there a call to help these illegal parents of US born children to become naturalized?
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When they are of age, the US citizens may petition for their parents.

As for a movement, I guess that you have not been aware of the multitude debates on immigration reform?

And, again, why should we differentiate between illegal immigrants with children born in the US and illegal immigrants with no children or with children born elsewhere?

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't comprehend all the hatred and xenophobia directed toward a little girl who was probably born here, and thus has the same rights as any citizen, or who was brought here with no say in the matter, and who may or may not understand what her mother and the First Lady meant by "papers." The Obama Administration has deported more immigrants in the last year than the Bush Administration did in its final year. Commenters seize on the word "illegal" as if it meant everything, but good people break the law every day: running lights, driving too fast, hiring people under the table, working under the table (does your teenage babysitter declare her earnings? How about the person who cleans your house? I have no idea if mine does, and she is not an immigrant). Most undocumented workers in the US do pay taxes and social security and will never collect; they aren't eligible for social services like "welfare" and food stamps, and they don't get adequate medical coverage. Around here, many of them are too afraid to even send their children--even citizen children--to school. We have a huge demand for unskilled and semi-skilled labor in our fruit orchards, cleaning services, home health agencies, etc, and nowhere near enough visas yearly to allow people to come legally to take those jobs. Our economy depends on them entirely, and yet we persecute them, tearing families apart. Where is your humanity?

Posted by: Nancy29 | May 20, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

You can be here illegally and still pay taxes. If the mother buys clothing for her children, she pays sales taxes. If she has a job, and if her employer required her to fill out tax forms, then taxes are being withheld from her pay, even if she supplied a false SSN. If she rents an apartment, and if her landlord pays property taxes, guess what? She is paying for government services in the same way as any citizen who pays rent.

There are number of studies that suggest that illegal immigrants contribute more to the economy than they use in public services. This isn't bleeding heart liberalism, this is peer reviewed research.

For more info read:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=881584

If you want to know who ISN'T paying taxes, then you should read this post by Bush's senior economic adviser:
http://keithhennessey.com/2010/04/15/off-the-rolls/

Posted by: nfh0012 | May 20, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't comprehend all the hatred and xenophobia directed toward a little girl who was probably born here, and thus has the same rights as any citizen, or who was brought here with no say in the matter, and who may or may not understand what her mother and the First Lady meant by "papers." The Obama Administration has deported more immigrants in the last year than the Bush Administration did in its final year. Commenters seize on the word "illegal" as if it meant everything, but good people break the law every day: running lights, driving too fast, hiring people under the table, working under the table (does your teenage babysitter declare her earnings? How about the person who cleans your house? I have no idea if mine does, and she is not an immigrant). Most undocumented workers in the US do pay taxes and social security and will never collect; they aren't eligible for social services like "welfare" and food stamps, and they don't get adequate medical coverage. Around here, many of them are too afraid to even send their children--even citizen children--to school. We have a huge demand for unskilled and semi-skilled labor in our fruit orchards, cleaning services, home health agencies, etc, and nowhere near enough visas yearly to allow people to come legally to take those jobs. Our economy depends on them entirely, and yet we persecute them, tearing families apart. Where is your humanity?

Posted by: Nancy29 | May 20, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Ronald Reagan would have given the family a path to citizenship. Guess he must have been some bleeding-heart liberal.

Posted by: dkp01 | May 20, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

When you blame Obama for not enforcing the law, you assume he has principles. The only principles he has are "get elected."

Posted by: jack29 | May 20, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Those born to illegal immigrants should not be given citizenship just because they are born here. These so-called anchor children just make the problem worse. If they are illegal, they should be sent home, with their illegal children. What part of the word "illegal" doesn't everyone understand?

Posted by: mencik | May 20, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

According to data from the Social Security Administration, illegal immigrants channel about $7 billion (yes, billion with a B) into SS coffers. See chart on article below.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/05/business/05immigration.html

It is not at all uncommon for an illegal immigrant to have a job that deducts payroll taxes. You can't have it both ways. If you complain about illegal immigrants using made-up or stolen SS numbers, or SS numbers of dead people, then you must know (unless you are a total idiot) that they are paying into the system as the government confirms. They also obviously pay other taxes, eg. sales tax, property tax through ownership or rent, etc. For all those with the secure-the-border mantra. Please explain how that will be done. If you really want to see tax money go to waste, try to build a fence across the entire border. The planned fence isn't even over half of it. This is not even to mention that all of you spilling rabid hate against these people seem to be so certain that the typical illegal immigrant entered without papers. However close to half of all illegal immigrants in the US entered legally and over-stayed their tourist, student, or other visa. As someone else said, if you want to have draconian punishments for this (and it is just a misdemeanor) then have them for the employers. Take away everything from someone who hires a worker not here legally.

Posted by: Leila1 | May 20, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The United States used to be a nation of kind, and compassionate people. What happened to us? To read some of your comments makes me question the sanity of some of you. One person wants a "perp walk another blames jews and catholics". We are a nation of immigrants, NOT one White, Black or Hispanic person came here legally, we were conquerors and that NEVER gives you legitimacy to claim that you are legal.
We face many problems in the world today, however hate and fear are not ways to deal with this. We Americans have always faced challenges with integrity and skill, solving problems by coming together as one. Shame on those who refuse to deal with these problems with an open mind.

Posted by: mmmbnm | May 20, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

When you blame Obama for not enforcing the law, you assume he has principles. The only principles he has are "get elected."

Posted by: jack29 | May 20, 2010 4:30 PM
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Basically the same principles for every politician.

Posted by: mencik | May 20, 2010 4:34 PM | Report abuse

How did we evolve from a nation of immigrants to a nation that reviles immigrants?

Posted by: jahysell | May 20, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

mencik, what part of the words birthright citizenship do you not understand? These children are US citizens. Want to change that? Then gather all your fellow haters together and amend the Constitution because that is where birthright citizenship is stated.

You speak about law, but you are arguing for the *illegal* deportation of US citizens.

Posted by: Leila1 | May 20, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

nfh0012, let's talk about the other costs the illegal aliens ring up. They get sick, they go to the ER, the second most expensive place in the hospital, next to the OR, where they might turn up too. This is all on thos eof us who pay taxes. They aren't paying unemployment, FICA, etc. tax, and they don't pay income tax. (Hmm, sort of like most of the officials in the Obama administration!) They are also taking jobs away from the 40 million legal Americans who are looking for work. What do the Democrats tell those people? Don't worry, Joe, you didn't want that job anyway.
And why do the liberals have to color this as racism or hate speech? Next time I get a speeding ticket, I'm going to accuse the cop of hate speech against me, because he said I was speeding. That'll work.

Posted by: gburton58 | May 20, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

No doubt the daughter will grow up to be a criminal just like mommy.

Posted by: Cornell1984 | May 20, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I agree that pretty much all of our ancestors immigrated here. My ancestors all immigrated here in the early 1900s. They came here for a better life, learned English, and three generations later there were even college graduates. There are two big differences between my ancestors and the illegal immigrants here: 1. my ancestors legally immigrated here and 2. my family pays taxes--taxes that go towards education, law enforcement, fire departments, parks, libraries, welfare. My family also pays into social security and medicaid. For these reasons, they are entitled to everything that an American citizen is entitled to. Why would anyone just want to give that away?

Posted by: MMaskul | May 20, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

is it crossing a line a crime???? That little american girls is the eco of the "American Dream" that many snobs are trying to kill.
We are now transcending those lines and using a space station to conquer space, computers, the Internet, our President visits many nations around the world and our boys are also defending our democracy in a foreign nation!!! Come on America snap out of it!!! The Mexican war had been over many years ago. Besides America es para los Americanos.

Posted by: Oscart | May 20, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

When you blame Obama for not enforcing the law, you assume he has principles. The only principles he has are "get elected."
Posted by: jack29 | May 20, 2010 4:30 PM

There were a few laws broken by administration officials between 2000-2008, and the criminals even admitted it on public record. Should Obama have them prosecuted? I sure think so. But that's not what you're talking about, is it?

Posted by: nfh0012 | May 20, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

We seem to have developed a special, protected class of non-citizen - at the expense of bona fide citizens.

The mother should be ordered to pay her retroactive share for her daughter's education. The local taxpayers who support schools would lose their homes if they did not pay the taxes. This mother gets a "free pass." The federal tazpayers who undoubtedly also support this school would also be punished.

I don't blame a kid for a parent's wrong-doing. But if her mother "wants papers," she should have come to this country legally. This is parasitism, pure and simple.

Posted by: SueR1 | May 20, 2010 4:40 PM | Report abuse

To arealperson: No I haven't forgotten that my great grandparents came from another country to the USA. The difference here being that they did it the legal way and waited their turn for that better life. It is a slap in the face to all the immigrants who came here legally to have these other folks here who sneak across the border supported by our tax dollars. The mother, the second grader and the rest of her 10 kids should all be deported to whatever country they came from. My opinion in this matter doesn't make me cruel and paranoid because I expect others to follow the laws of this land just like I do. Take your bleeding heart elsewhere, or better yet, why don't you cough up the money to support this broad and all her kids.

Posted by: nem44 | May 20, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight -- I thought in America we lived under the rule of law. Now I see that law only applies to American citizens and those here legally. So if I break the law I should be prosecuted...if an illegal alien breaks the law, we should feel sorry for them. Interesting position for a former law professor. I guess that is what they teach at Harvard Law school.

Posted by: Daisy5 | May 20, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

For once, ICE does the right thing in shying away from deporting this particular person. They certainly don't suffer for lack of other candidates. I feel for the little girl, and her mother, and I really urge Republicans to stop pandering to hate mongers, and get on board with some reasonable immigration legislation which strengthens our borders, and establishes some form of legalization for those here already. This is particularly important for those high school students who have lived most of their lives here.

Posted by: 189AROD | May 20, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Where were all the teabaggers before... this country has looked the other way on illegal immigration for 30+ years. Primarily because of Agri-business and other big business lobbying. While this is not an excuse not to enforce the laws now, it is a reason to be a little more understanding and sympathetic of most of the illegals that are here because we weren't enforcing the law. Creating a path to citizenship if they can qualify (no arrests/pay fines/learn english, etc) is the best answer to the problem. Conservative estimates claim that there are over 10+ million illegals. Even if the system could handle deportation of 500,000 a year (a 25% increase in what we deported last year) it would take 10+ years to get them all out and cost millions and millions of dollars. Doesn't it make more sense to get the quailfied ones into the system, make them pay fines ($$$ to fund lots of other programs like strengthening the border) and get them to pay income taxes. Seriously, there are lots of crimes where people have to pay fines as a result of their "breaking the law"...why can't we reform the law, strengthen the border, get most of them into the system and concentrate on the ones who have been arrested or committed serious crimes deported.

Posted by: BobbyB1 | May 20, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Maskul, there was virtually open immigration in the United States at the time your (and my) ancestors immigrated. There is no prize to be given for success in immigrating at the time and there are more similarities in previous generations of immigrants than you appear willing to admit, in terms of pace of learning English (Ellis Island immigrants often used their children to translate just as now), and in terms of assimilation. Illegal immigrants in this country come from every country of the world and many are already educated people. Close to half entered legally and then over-stayed, so your stereotype doesn't hold. You are also factually incorrect about the taxes.

Posted by: Leila1 | May 20, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Does typing illegal in caps make it really, really illegal or does it just try to convey to readers that they are too STUPID to understand the meaning of legality? This is a complicated issue and the mantra of repeating ILLEGAL again and again adds little value.

I am not supportive of law breakers, but I don't suggest they all be put on a barge back to wherever they came from in the next 60 days. It would be good to try to temper law enforcement with common sense and American decency.

Chances are good DreamOutLoud had some relatives from the past who the established Americans of the time wanted to toss out of the country.

By the way, was abbrogating national treaties with Native American's ILLEGAL? Just curious.

Posted by: jahysell | May 20, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

ICE needs to enforce the law. To not do so because the offender is "cute" and on TV is wrong. Bigger picture is we need to change the law, until such time as Congress gets its act together and reforms Immigration, ICE needs to get tough or Congress will legislate by not doing anything, which is what it does best. The President can implement a policy to not act on these cases, which is in violation of the law of the land, to score PR points but it is still wrong. We need to act decisively now to provide legal status to long time residents or move aggressively to deport them. However, it is easier to do nothing and hope to garner re-election votes by not taking a stand.

Posted by: tomheckhoward | May 20, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

My dear people,
we have to remember a simple fact, the Mexican are not the only illegals in America, I live in New York City, i can name twenty from Europe. I feel if this country is going to clean house, all illegals should be included. Personally
i truly feel sad realizing the truth behind such hostility. The majority of these comments are from your dark side. What is it that you really hate, the dark illegals? Shame on you.

Posted by: smoking | May 20, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Dear Mr. Chandler -- ALL illegal aliens pose threats to our communities. It would be hard to find ONE who hasn't committed any of the standard illegal alien crimes: identity theft, failure to pay taxes, putting children in public school at taxpayer expense, gotten medical care, failed to have car insurance, driving without a license, or counterfeiting documents.

Show me an adult illegal alien and you'll most definitely be showing me someone who has broken MANY of our laws.

Posted by: bk0512 | May 20, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Assume the child is born here and therefore a citizen. Who would send the mother away?

Posted by: AlanLewine | May 20, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

gburton58, in the interest of space, I didn't address all of the issues, but I did provide links to people who did.
You seemed to miss something that I did cover explicitly and that was income tax.

Many illegal immigrants DO pay income taxes...they often supply a false SSN, and taxes are withheld. Please read my original post again. I covered that.

American citizens also get sick and use the ER. Do you have peer reviewed data suggesting that illegal immigrants cost the country more in ER and OR expenses than poor US citizens? Please share it.

You sound concerned about Joe's job. Are you a union member? It's not only a liberal argument that illegal immigrants are taking jobs that no one else wants. It's also the argument of free market capitalists. Are you against free markets? Are you a protectionist? You sound like one.

I don't know why some people call this racist speech. I didn't see anything in your comment that was racist. i don't think you are a racist. I didn't bring up race in my post. But I do sometimes hear people talk about illegal immigration in xenophobic terms, and I have seen what I would call racism in other comments on this board.

Posted by: nfh0012 | May 20, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

My husband travels for his job. We go with him. My kids were born in other countries. Just because they were born there and have that countries birth certificate they do NOT have that countries citizenship. They have the parents which are US. That is what it should be. If they want to be US citizens than they should apply just like my child would at 18 if they want to be a citizen of the country he was born in. Illegalis illegal. If the parent isnt a citizen then then basby shoulsnt be and when when the child turn 18 then they can decide or the parent can can do it right and become legal.

The schools are in MAJOR financial trouble. Kids who have learning disabilities or autism or kids who loveart and music are having their classes taken away because of budget cuts and we are paying taxes. But ESOL classes aren't getting downsized and most of these kids parents dont pay taxes for the school.

ILLEGAL+ILLEGAL

Posted by: dybrco | May 20, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

The majority of the opinions say they wish the little girl and her mother to be deported; or worse.

I find this most disheartening. I simply don't understand how so many people could close their hearts and act with such callous disregard for fellow human beings.

Was the little girl coached? Is it relevant? I think not.

A Card Carrying Member of the ACLU and a Bleeding Heart Liberal.

Posted by: amsteingold | May 20, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Great idea dnha. Could we also put a tick box on the 1040 that will allow the many Americans who consume drugs transported into the US via the US-Mexico border to pay for the drug war that they have brought to our doorsteps? Maybe the people who believe that the following words in the Bill of Rights mean that US gun dealers are free to arm Mexican drug cartels could also donate to the cause.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Posted by: exco | May 20, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

If the 7 year old girl is legal, who paid for the hospital bill when she was born? Who covers the cost of Prince Georges Co.school system? Are the mother and child getting any health care, or other public assistance? It is very expensive to live as we do here in the USA illegals do not pay their way!

Posted by: 54yroldmale | May 20, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

bk0512, exactly how is enrolling your child in public school illegal? For those of you constantly using that word, you appear to know little of the law on this issue. First, there are a very large number of US born children of illegal immigrants. They are no less entitled to go to school than any other US-born child. Or do you think a child is responsible for whether or not a parent pays taxes. Although most illegal immigrants do pay taxes. But more importantly, the US Supreme Court ruled in 1982 that children of illegal immigrants, even those who are in illegal status themselves, have the right to attend public school. I guess you never heard of the ruling. Why doesn't that surprise me given the level of education you show in the rest of your comment?

Posted by: Leila1 | May 20, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Very true Smoking, many 'Americans' have a double standards towards this topic in regards to 'immigrants' and 'foreigners'.

Posted by: straightnotH2Odown | May 20, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

there are apparently 15 million or so illegals, and ICE doesn't have the resources to deport more than a couple hundred thousand or so that they do catch. so why shouldn't they devote those resources to catching and deporting the worst of them, instead of bothering with this girl's mother?

George Bush's ICE would probably have done the same.

Posted by: JoeT1 | May 20, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I dont doubt that it is much better here than where they are from but there is a right way of doing thing and a wrong way of doing it. Do it legally and no one will have a problem with it.

If I shoplifted I would be arrested. But they get free healthcare, free schooling etc without paying taxes because no one is turned away but me it is different. I even with health insurance has to pay 20% of my daughter's surgery up front or else the hospital wontlet her have the surgery. What is wrong with this?

Posted by: dybrco | May 20, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

you are all illegals except the native cherokees. go back to europe/africa/asia/latin.
this is natives land. not some 3rd generation european. Ok? good

Posted by: xaajiga1 | May 20, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

dybcro, you'll need a constitutional amendment.
54yrold, most residents, legal or otherwise, pay sales tax, income tax (usually without benefit of a refund), property tax directly if they are home owners or indirectly through rent, etc. Someone reading here might have statistics on whether, given the lower use of services by noncitizen residents, how much they pay compared to how much in services they use vs resident citizens. I'll bet it's close or more for noncitzens.

Posted by: AlanLewine | May 20, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

She SHOULD be deported!

Posted by: Nimpastato | May 20, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Many of the people who are advocating the removal of illegal aliens are descendants of aliens who moved in from Europe and forcefully removed the legal Native Americans from their traditional lands by killing or removal to a reservation. So now it's a matter of "We grabbed it, and we are not letting any current newcomers share." The Pilgrims and the Jamestown settlers didn't have any papers except those from the governments they were leaving.

Posted by: GeorgeS1 | May 20, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"If the 7 year old girl is legal, who paid for the hospital bill when she was born?"
Posted by: 54yroldmale | May 20, 2010 5:02 PM

My wife is an 8th generation Texan, born to a poor teenage caucasian couple. She now has a masters degree. Who paid the hospital bill when she was born? Her family didn't. Do you want to deport poor whites too? I don't think hospital bills count as documentation of citizenship.

For people who are concerned about illegal immigrants not paying taxes, in the interests of consistency, you should also make sure that your waiters and waitresses are reporting all of their tips. Next time you go into a restaurant, ask your server to prove that he or she reports all their tips. If they can't prove it, report the restaurant to the IRS. You'll be really popular in your town for making sure that everyone is paying their fair share for government services.

Posted by: nfh0012 | May 20, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

dybrco, if you want the United States to become a country without birthright citizenship, then organize to amend the Constitution. You talk a lot about illegal this, illegal that, but under our law, under the kind of law that trumps all other law in the US, these children are Americans. What they should or shouldn't be according to you, is, forgive me, totally irrelevant in legal terms. We have birthright citizenship. Don't like it? Then you have a procedure to change it.

Posted by: Leila1 | May 20, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

This story is not about terrorists. It's about people who, like our ancestors, come here to make a better life. When did this nation of immigrants become so unwelcoming? The high paying manufacturing jobs have not disappeared because of immigrants, legal or illegal. Immigrants did not cause the decimation of the housing market, the bank scandals or Enron.
If you really want to know the source of illegal immigration, look to the Chamber of Commerce, agribusiness, the restaurant industry, the construction industry and others who encourage illegal immigrants by giving them jobs. My suggestion is that these industries come out of the closet by admitting that they need these immigrants. Then the issue becomes one of economics and we can frame, and debate it, honestly. It’s supply and demand. The demand for workers in low wage jobs cannot be met by American workers. Instead of hiring illegals, industry should make the case that they cannot afford to pay American wages for these jobs, that the jobs are necessary, and work change the law to create special visas for low wage workers and allowing them to be paid lower than minimum wage.
We cannot allow politicians to divert us from the real issues. Like all industrialized countries, we have an aging population which can no longer perform the jobs the immigrants are taking. We need workers to perform these jobs, pay into the Social Security system, pay income tax and become part of the fabric of this nation. They come here because they see American as a bright and shining beacon of opportunity. Unfortunately, many of us have lost the vision expressed on the Statue of Liberty. It’s not too late to get it back.

Posted by: gboesky | May 20, 2010 5:17 PM | Report abuse

This story is not about terrorists. It's about people who, like our ancestors, come here to make a better life. When did this nation of immigrants become so unwelcoming? The high paying manufacturing jobs have not disappeared because of immigrants, legal or illegal. Immigrants did not cause the decimation of the housing market, the bank scandals or Enron.
If you really want to know the source of illegal immigration, look to the Chamber of Commerce, agribusiness, the restaurant industry, the construction industry and others who encourage illegal immigrants by giving them jobs. My suggestion is that these industries come out of the closet by admitting that they need these immigrants. Then the issue becomes one of economics and we can frame, and debate it, honestly. It’s supply and demand. The demand for workers in low wage jobs cannot be met by American workers. Instead of hiring illegals, industry should make the case that they cannot afford to pay American wages for these jobs, that the jobs are necessary, and work change the law to create special visas for low wage workers and allowing them to be paid lower than minimum wage.
We cannot allow politicians to divert us from the real issues. Like all industrialized countries, we have an aging population which can no longer perform the jobs the immigrants are taking. We need workers to perform these jobs, pay into the Social Security system, pay income tax and become part of the fabric of this nation. They come here because they see American as a bright and shining beacon of opportunity. Unfortunately, many of us have lost the vision expressed on the Statue of Liberty. It’s not too late to get it back.

Posted by: gboesky | May 20, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Well there it is. We have the Obama administration's position on illegal immigration. Just remember this when you vote in November, folks.

Posted by: AnnsThought | May 20, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

I wholeheartedly agree with jahysell (both comments), so I am re-posting their last comment to those who may have skipped over it in this long thread:


"Does typing illegal in caps make it really, really illegal or does it just try to convey to readers that they are too STUPID to understand the meaning of legality? This is a complicated issue and the mantra of repeating ILLEGAL again and again adds little value.

I am not supportive of law breakers, but I don't suggest they all be put on a barge back to wherever they came from in the next 60 days. It would be good to try to temper law enforcement with common sense and American decency.

Chances are good DreamOutLoud had some relatives from the past who the established Americans of the time wanted to toss out of the country.

By the way, was abbrogating national treaties with Native American's ILLEGAL? Just curious."

Posted by: drawonthewalls | May 20, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

AnnsThought, oh you mean the American president who signed an amnesty agreement for illegal immigrants? Wait, that was Ronald Reagan now wasn't it. So you are telling us not to vote Republican since Reagan is the saint of the party. Ok. Sure.

Posted by: Leila1 | May 20, 2010 5:25 PM | Report abuse

To arealperson: No I haven't forgotten that my great grandparents came from another country to the USA. The difference here being that they did it the legal way and waited their turn for that better life.
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Would they have made it over under today's system: not likely. Many of our relatives emigrated through Ellis Island. I am certain, given the chance - you would have almost now illegal immigrants today if they could emigrate through the system of our forefathers.

But that is beside the point, we need to ask ourselves what we want to spend our tax dollars on - non-value added activities, which have a minimal effect on the prosperousness of our country, or on investments which allow our citizens to compete with the wold economy and maintain the lifestyles we now feel entitled to...

Posted by: BT23 | May 20, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I am truly disheartened by the cynical nature of the discussion. Many of these comments represent the kind of hateful and xenophobic responses to those with no power that our supposedly "christian" nation should reject. I am an atheist, but I see no redeeming moral value in those who would utter such offensive language toward a 7 year old.

Posted by: nmanger1 | May 20, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Do not care where they came from, if they here illegally, they are criminals. There is absolutely no gray area. What part of ILLEGAL don't you bleeding hearts understand?
Amen Anns Thought;
You can't fix stupid, BUT you can vote it out!

Posted by: starrman | May 20, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

AlanLewine wrote - "Someone reading here might have statistics on whether, given the lower use of services by noncitizen residents, how much they pay compared to how much in services they use vs resident citizens. I'll bet it's close or more for noncitzens"

You said it. I posted it above and I will post it again.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=881584

Posted by: nfh0012 | May 20, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

To the "illegal is illegal" knotheads, I say: How about your uninvited, illegal ancestors who came here and messed up the legitimate, native, population by giving them smallpox and stealing their land?

Perhaps you should go back to where you came from.

Posted by: microspher | May 20, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

mmmbnm wrote:

"The United States used to be a nation of kind, and compassionate people. What happened to us? ... We are a nation of immigrants, NOT one White, Black or Hispanic person came here legally, we were conquerors and that NEVER gives you legitimacy to claim that you are legal.
We face many problems in the world today, however hate and fear are not ways to deal with this. We Americans have always faced challenges with integrity and skill, solving problems by coming together as one. Shame on those who refuse to deal with these problems with an open mind.
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Too many straw-men in one comment. Just a few comments:
1) It is wrong to contend that those who argue that people who entered the nation illegally should face the consequences of having broken a law (or many) are not compassionate. One can be compassionate and kind and uphold the laws
2) Under your criteria of "legal immigration," and given the vicissitudes of history, pretty much no one in any nation across the world is "legal" in their country
3) You "compassion" is a slap in the face to each and every immigrant who made his/her way into this country patiently through the system, investing time and money to do things properly and accepting the consequences of their decision

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

microspher wrote:

To the "illegal is illegal" knotheads, I say: How about your uninvited, illegal ancestors who came here and messed up the legitimate, native, population by giving them smallpox and stealing their land?

Perhaps you should go back to where you came from.
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After you, friend.

This line of reasoning is inane.

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

"If someone admits to a crime on national television, that is not solid evidence?

Posted by: WhatBubble"
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The testimony from a child of her age would not be admissible in a court of law.

Posted by: JRM2 | May 20, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

The irony is, the nativists of the Ellis Island era said exactly the same kinds of things about the millions of immigrants of that period as the hater nativists do today. They denigrated the Ellis Island era immigrants even though they were virtually all legal. Nativists complained also that the Protestant nation of America was being overrun by too many new Catholics and Jews. If you go to Ellis Island, you can see the rhetoric of the nativists on exhibit. It is extremely familiar.

Posted by: Leila1 | May 20, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

GeorgeS1 wrote:

"Many of the people who are advocating the removal of illegal aliens are descendants of aliens who moved in from Europe and forcefully removed the legal Native Americans from their traditional lands by killing or removal to a reservation. So now it's a matter of "We grabbed it, and we are not letting any current newcomers share." The Pilgrims and the Jamestown settlers didn't have any papers except those from the governments they were leaving."
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YAWWWWWWN!

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

nmanger1 "xenophobic" or being "christian" has nothing to do with this subject. Suppose the same blase attitude towards child molesters, rapists and murderers was condoned? Would that make those laws xenophobic and unchristian as well? I think not, again, a criminal is a criminal.
Illegal,
adj.
1. Prohibited by law.
2. Prohibited by official rules:

Posted by: starrman | May 20, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

the little girl asked why the president was "taking everybody away that doesn't have papers."
"But my mom doesn't have any papers,"

This was so scripted it is beyond funny. What seven year old is going to know anything about 'papers'. And how would she know if her mom had papers or not. Is this something they sit around the dinner table and talk about? Please.

Posted by: Jimof1913 | May 20, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Argie, close to half of the people in illegal status in the United States did not enter the country illegally. And while the majority of illegal immigrants are from Mexico, there are millions and millions from other countries who, obviously, cannot be dropped across the border and released. Deportation has to be to the country of origin, so that means ships and planes for all but the illegal Mexicans and illegal Canadians. The notion of enforcing these laws by deporting en masse 12 million or more illegal immigrants is so ludicrous in financial and logistical terms, that one doesn't even have to bring up the strong humanitarian arguments.

Posted by: Leila1 | May 20, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Leila1 wrote:

"The irony is, the nativists of the Ellis Island era said exactly the same kinds of things about the millions of immigrants of that period as the hater nativists do today ... Nativists complained also that the Protestant nation of America was being overrun by too many new Catholics and Jews ... It is extremely familiar."
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Most comments are on illegal immigration, not on legal immigration. You are bending and stretching the comments to suit your argument of new-nativism. When you can show to us that anyone arguing for adherence to current immigration laws as they pertain to legal entry and deportation is also advocating that no Hispanics or other legal immigrants be admiited, then you may have a case. Until then, your comments belie your bias more than the bias of those with whom you disagree. You are making things up, otherwise, and comparing apples to oranges. If you do some research, you will find that many who oppose blanket amnesty for illegal immigrants are themselves immigrants (albeit legal ones).

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't Obama and the Democrats doing more to control illegal immigration?
Posted by: sanmateo1850
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Your answer right here.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/20/little-girl-who-challenge_n_583432.html

They are, they've deported more than at any time in history, more than Bush, much more than when conservatives held the three branches of Government.

Contrary to what Lady Blah, Blah says Obama IS "doing his job"

Posted by: JRM2 | May 20, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Leila1: Doesn't open immigration still mean that those who immigrate here are here legally? So having a process to become a U.S. citizen is a bad thing? I agree that those born here are citizens, but their parents are usually in the act of becoming a citizen, not hiding out and using false identities. What support do you have that an illegal immigrant pays ALL the taxes I do? If you feel so strongly, then why don't you head to Texas or Florida and risk your American freedoms, to help these immigrants come to America. Why not? Oh because you will be put in prison and lose the freedoms of a citizen.

Posted by: MMaskul | May 20, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Illegal is illegal. No way around it in my book. Both should go back to Peru.

Posted by: jarresm
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Why don't you campaign to change the law to strip U.S. citizenship from the American-born kids of illegals aliens?

Or would you prefer someone else do the dirty work? I'd love to see the Tea Party get on board with that. They'd probably like to, but they know most Americans aren't that big of an azzzolll.

Posted by: st50taw | May 20, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

If Exxon paid any taxes it would more than make up for the illegals who don't

Posted by: JRM2 | May 20, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

@traderdad37: Obama has deported more illegals than any other President including when conservatives had control of the 3 branches of government.

Ignoramus.

Posted by: JRM2 | May 20, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

Why do people believe that those "without papers" don't pay taxes. If you are a citizen of another country working here, you pay taxes. Now, I'm sure that the guys standing in front of home depot aren't paying income taxes, but they're not earning enough in a year to be required to pay taxes. But the ones working at fast food places with fake social security numbers are being taxed for social security and medicare and won't ba able to document that they paid into the funds.

Posted by: MitchinADK | May 20, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

According to some of these posters illegal immigration started in January 2009, you guys must really hate Reagan then for giving them amnesty.

Posted by: JRM2 | May 20, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

Leila1 wrote:
"...close to half of the people in illegal status in the United States did not enter the country illegally ... there are millions and millions from other countries who, obviously, cannot be dropped across the border and released. Deportation has to be to the country of origin ... The notion of enforcing these laws by deporting en masse 12 million or more illegal immigrants is so ludicrous in financial and logistical terms, that one doesn't even have to bring up the strong humanitarian arguments."
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It's true that some immigrants are here illegally for they stayed beyond their visas or permits would have allowed them to do. In any case, while they may have gained access to the US via legal means, they still remain in the country illegally and ought to be considered breaking the law.

Now you make an economic argument on deportation that has validity and may have broad applicability. The "humanitarian" argument may apply to some illegal immigrants, but it should not be used as a blanket argument.

Deporting 12 million people is logistically impossible, indeed. So, one either decides to never enforce the law (ridiculous), enforce it selectively, or change the law. Any of these decisions is taken because of material and realistic considerations. The "humanitarian" argument is bull.

Each and every excuse we make for illegal immigration is an insult to those who labored and continue to labor to come into this nation legally, taking lots of time, patience, and money to achieve their goal.

Posted by: Leila1

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Leila1 wrote:
"...close to half of the people in illegal status in the United States did not enter the country illegally ... there are millions and millions from other countries who, obviously, cannot be dropped across the border and released. Deportation has to be to the country of origin ... The notion of enforcing these laws by deporting en masse 12 million or more illegal immigrants is so ludicrous in financial and logistical terms, that one doesn't even have to bring up the strong humanitarian arguments."
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It's true that some immigrants are here illegally for they stayed beyond their visas or permits would have allowed them to do. In any case, while they may have gained access to the US via legal means, they still remain in the country illegally and ought to be considered breaking the law.

Now you make an economic argument on deportation that has validity and may have broad applicability. The "humanitarian" argument may apply to some illegal immigrants, but it should not be used as a blanket argument.

Deporting 12 million people is logistically impossible, indeed. So, one either decides to never enforce the law (ridiculous), enforce it selectively, or change the law. Any of these decisions is taken because of material and realistic considerations. The "humanitarian" argument is bull.

Each and every excuse we make for illegal immigration is an insult to those who labored and continue to labor to come into this nation legally, taking lots of time, patience, and money to achieve their goal.

Posted by: Leila1

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The next question is why is this child more articulate than Rand Paul? This guy wants to be a US Senator but can't answer a few simple questions.

Posted by: MitchinADK | May 20, 2010 5:52 PM | Report abuse

AMEN, AMEN AND AMEN argie!

Posted by: starrman | May 20, 2010 5:57 PM | Report abuse

JRM2 wrote:

"According to some of these posters illegal immigration started in January 2009, you guys must really hate Reagan then for giving them amnesty."
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One is hard pressed to find thorugh these comments a basis for your claim on apparent memory loss. And, indeed, some of us who happen to have liked the Gipper as Prez do believe that the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (an act of Congress, by the way), was flawed in spirit and (especially) implementation.

You also leave aside that Reagan was trying to balance the amnesty with some very real and hard goals on border security and employer sanctions. The Act was not intended as amnesty alone.

One can hardly guess what Reagan would do today. However, one may surmise given his history that he migh thing that the lesson from 1986 is that such an amnesty did not solve the problem and that he woudl likely take a different approach.

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

Maskul, I don't know all the taxes you pay. For example, do you make online purchases? Did you know that you are supposed to annually declare the sales tax for all purchases made on the Net to the state authorities? Do you? I'm guessing you are a criminal like most online purchasers, although I guess there is a tiny chance you pay it all. I already gave my citation about the data from the SS Admin on $7 billion a year from illegal immigrants in payroll taxes. It is obvious they pay sales tax at stores. It is also obvious they pay property taxes as owners or renters. Do they all pay all taxes? Probably not. I am willing to wager most Americans do not. (See above reference to online sales.)You said clearly that the children of illegal immigrants should not be citizens. I simply said they are, under law, and if you care so much about law, you need to accept that OR mobilize to amend the Constitution. Period. Stop kvetching and start amending if you are so bent out of shape that babies become Americans on exit.

Posted by: Leila1 | May 20, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Of course Mommy gets to stay. 20,000,000 other get to stay, why pick on Mommy?

Posted by: FutureView2010 | May 20, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

The only solution to the over 30 million illegals here - is SELF-DEPORTATION.

The only way to produce self-deportation is to FINE businesses who hire illegals - and fine them BIG time - like 10K per illegal - and also make it a felony for anyone who hires them.

E-verify has been around for decades...and businesses could have been verifying all along. Their refusal to follow our laws amounts to aiding and abetting criminals.

Also culpable - are our politicians who refuse to enforce our laws.

Today, politicians gave President Calderon a standing ovation. Time to demand that they publicly state their position on "immigration reform," which is amnesty/citizenship and to then take appropriate action at the polls.

We've had enough...and this insanity has gone on too long. Obama and the Democrats and any pro-immigration Republicans can take a hike. We've had it.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | May 20, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"Unless they are homeless, they are paying those taxes; either as homeowners themselves or as part of the rent they pay.
Posted by: WK437 | May 20, 2010 3:01 PM"

She does look like one of the kids of the folks from the foreclosure condo unit below mine. There were like 10 of them living in the 700sqft unit.

I work within the immigration enterprise and I'm sickened that they're not deporting these people. It's frustrating when we're trying to make it less painful for those who are trying to come into the country legally. The illegal immigrants ruin it for the people who go through the legal process.

Posted by: eet7e | May 20, 2010 6:43 PM | Report abuse

The only thing that makes these people "illegal" is our stupid immigration laws. You self-righteous people who dump on "illegals" have broken the law yourselves at some time or another in your lives, driving too fast or drinking too young or crossing in the middle of the block. These people are trying to provide a better life for their families. If you want someone to stone, go stone yourselves.

Posted by: fuquafalcon | May 20, 2010 6:51 PM | Report abuse

All anti-immigrant moaners and groaners... sit up and take notice: Mom and the kid ain't goin' nowhere! And I am happy as all get out for BOTH. I hope your/our taxes triple just for being so arrogant and nasty! Of course, they won't, but just the same...

Posted by: dakotahgeo | May 20, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

I wonder how the virulent anti immigration crowd would be if these 'illegals' were from Europe or Canada. If their skin was not brown.
I never understood the fear and hate that these rightwingers feel towards anyone who is not like them. Why are they so afraid of change and why do they hate so many people - anyone not like them.

Posted by: vwcat | May 20, 2010 6:54 PM | Report abuse

microspher wrote:

To the "illegal is illegal" knotheads, I say: How about your uninvited, illegal ancestors who came here and messed up the legitimate, native, population by giving them smallpox and stealing their land?

Perhaps you should go back to where you came from.
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After you, friend.

This line of reasoning is inane.
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Inane? Maybe! True? Definitely!

Posted by: dakotahgeo | May 20, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

this wasn't a plant. sometimes kids just have big mouths and say things before they think them. i can't believe people are saying this was a plant. if it was then maybe you should leave because i'm sure you are not native american...oh yeah...that argument again.

i'm a mom with 3 kids and trust me, there are times when they say stuff that mortifies me. the class probably had a discussion beforehand and the little girl just thought up and asked a question. duh.

keep up the stereotyping folks! great job. besides, everyone saying illegal mom/illegal kid-maybe the kid was born here. oh no, illegals are too stupid to go to the hospital, she probably just cleared the table in Peru and did it, dragging her kid across.

SMFH. Jeez. True colors come out when you post anonymously.

Posted by: tlucas007 | May 20, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

It does seem a bit CONTRIVED. I voted for President Obama but I didn't vote for Michelle Obama to give her opinion. Of course she's playing to her perceived constituency, not all of whom agree with the liberal point of view re illegals.

The US is the only country in the world that doesn't protect its borders -- and the end result is an open door to all sorts of people -- good and bad. We have no principals, no determination and no will.

We have over 16 million ILLEGALs in the United States; this is an incredible number of people invading a country. There are more ILLEGALS than there are cancer victims and its costing us to pay for social services for people resident in our country. It's a quality of life issue. Open borders brings in the criminal element and those less educated and less able to contribute to our society. They sneak into the country because they have been prohibited, under our current laws, from entering legally. Our laws and regulations were meant to ensure that, by and large, only self-sufficient people come to our shores. We are not changing our laws, just turning a blind eye that there are millions here not qualified to be here.

By not enforcing our laws only encourages people to leave their country instead of taking the steps to build up the society they want. Unfortunately, the present societies of South and Central America are run by oligarchies who want to encourage their perceived riff-raff to leave. As a nation, we are played for suckers and we are doomed.
I am disgusted by the hypocrites of the rest of the Americas that criticize the US but do NOTHING for their own people to improve their lives. They are all run by a bunch of greedy and grasping thieves devoid of compassion; the US has a lot of compassion and we are being taken advantage of by 16 million unwanted ILLEGALS. I get very tired of the staged pulling of heartstrings. Just too much!!

Posted by: oakland | May 20, 2010 7:08 PM | Report abuse

This is another example of the progressives influencing the media. Who planned the question and answer? Just another example of the administration laying the groundwork for granting amnesty to millions of illegals in their reform? This is starting to get scary.

Posted by: mailboxb | May 20, 2010 7:15 PM | Report abuse

...and we're still looking for those "Compassionate Conservatives"...

Posted by: dognabbit | May 20, 2010 7:18 PM | Report abuse

Yes, I agree, as many righties say, "Illegal is illegal." That's very true. By that same logic, "compassionate is compassionate".

Illegal is illegal and compassionate is compassionate, but never shall the two meet, apparently.

Posted by: dognabbit | May 20, 2010 7:20 PM | Report abuse

"Obama and the Democrats and any pro-immigration Republicans can take a hike. We've had it.

Posted by: joesmithdefend"
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You must have really hated Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: JRM2 | May 20, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

If a child gives a tip to the police about a murder is it discounted and unenforced? She ratted out her mom to the wife of the chief enforcement officer in the land and ICE won't follow up?

What a joke.

Posted by: cleancut77 | May 20, 2010 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Illegal is illegal?
Ok,
anybody here who has ever broken the law and has not been caught immediately go turn yourselves in.

Posted by: JRM2 | May 20, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

@ argie: Thank you for your thoughtful response.

The point I am trying to make is that there are several posters here blaming our immigration problems on Obama. Conservatives had control of the three branches of Government recently and just let the problem fester, conveniently, conservatives seem to forget this. They also seem to forget that their shining example, Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to illegal aliens while ignoring the fact that Obama has deported more illegals than any other President (whom they support, such as Bush) They also ignore that the current proposed legislation states that illegal aliens will go to the back of the line, pay a fine and learn English.

Aren't these things we all can agree on?

Posted by: JRM2 | May 20, 2010 7:36 PM | Report abuse

fuquafalcon wrote:
"The only thing that makes these people "illegal" is our stupid immigration laws."
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So, the only thing that makes any crime illegal is some "stupid" law. What is your argument here? If you do not like the law, work to change it or repeal it. As long as it is the law (even something as boneheaded as Prohibition), it has to be respected, we must abide by it, and we must accept the consequences should we be caugt breaking it. Just because you think a law is "stupid" it does not make it any less of a law.

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"You self-righteous people who dump on "illegals" have broken the law yourselves at some time or another in your lives, driving too fast or drinking too young or crossing in the middle of the block."

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You're stretching it here. For beginners, there is a difference between a one-time transgression and being in constant transgression. You may break the speed limit once; but you are not "illegal" just on the day that you enter (or decide to remain in) the country without permission.

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"These people are trying to provide a better life for their families. If you want someone to stone, go stone yourselves."
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So, the purity of their motives justifies breaking the law? Tres Jean Valjean of you!

Of course, there are people who also want to provide a better life for themselves or tehir families who opt to follow the rules to come into the US. I guess that in spending time and money to do it properly, they are just chumps in your book because the law is "stupid" and their pure motives shoudl be enough to grant them the papers they seek.

Posted by:

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Most of the people here are despicable. All I can say is thank GOD I live Hawai'i 'cause it's obvious that most mainland dwellers (at least the ones here) are racist, hateful people. Here in Hawai'i we live aloha with our co-dwellers, regardless of where they are orignally from, legally or not. If the USA was smart, they would just open up the borders to everyone who wants to come and work, pay taxes, and live the American dream. Hawai'i no ka oi!!!!!

Posted by: mauigrrl | May 20, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

It's hard to coach children to say exactly the right thing at the right time. But Mrs. Obama is GOOD at the game and few have taken note of HER words that precipitated this child's innocent and worried question:
"That's something that we have to work on, right? To make sure that people can be here with the right kind of papers."
Yeah, if we get all the illegals some form of legal residency, and then a speedy path to naturalization - making sure that all however-many-millions of them can vote in 2012. Or just say that it's profiling to check for "papers" at polling places.
What kind of "right kind of papers" are you allowed to ask for these days - in AZ or anywhere - without being called a racist?

Posted by: parkbench | May 20, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

All this goes to prove that we will never be able to do any kind of meaningful enforcement! For you illegal lovers out there. Please explain to those of us who feel illegals do not deserve to be here just how your proposed immigration reform will stop more illegals? Then explain how we are to enforce any new laws when the ones we already have are "racial profiling" to the illegal lovers? Let's say we allow these 20,000,000 illegals to STAY and then allow all of them to sponsor their family members which by law they would be allow to do! Now lets say we do that! How do we arrest any new illegals and you can bet we will have new illegals?
How can we enforce any NEW immigrant law withour PROFILING or being allowed to ask for documents? Please read Mexico's laws regarding illegals!!!!! Their own president said today that Mexico ask for papers and will deport illegals or put them in prison! If Mexico can do it so shall we! Yet, he condems us!

Posted by: usmc1969 | May 20, 2010 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Let's be honest. It's only a matter of time before people of color become the majority group in this country and it scares the hell out of SOME white folks. But don't worry about it, the rest of us have been minorities our entire lives and all you have to do is lift yourself up by your bootstraps...The biggest mistake you can make is blaming another group of people for your problems. So it with immigrants. If you can't find a job, it's not because of "big government" or big business. It's because you haven't worked hard enough...

Posted by: onifadee | May 20, 2010 8:13 PM | Report abuse

What part of "ILLEGAL" don't you understand? Her mother is a criminal. Send them home.
"Oh, you can't break up a family! That's cruel. Besides, the little girl might be a citizen! You cant deport a citizen!"

So? What's your point? Want to bet? If the little girl's mamasita can produce a valid birth certificate that the little girl is a U.S. Citizen, give her a federally issued citizen I.D. card. Then mamasita can choose to leave the little girl with citizen relatives or take her on the deportation bus. The little girl can come back when she's 18 if she wants. Mamasita can never come back. We have enough criminals without them invading our country!

Posted by: patricyancey | May 20, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

In Prince William County, we gave them all an invitation TO LEAVE. Then, Fairfax County Supervisor Gerry Connolly invited them all to Fairfax, get free housing, utilities, money and guess who got elected to the House, so he doesn't have to soil his fingers?

Connolly is toast, come November.

If you're here in Prince William County illegally and don't have a bond from your employer, Bye-Bye!!!

Posted by: Computer_Forensics_Expert_Computer_Expert_Witness | May 20, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

What's with Maui Grill?

Why do we bring in the race card? I am not white, but I don't like ILLEGALS here, whether they are latinos or Asians or Celtics -- and there are too many of the latter, too. (It was worse a few years ago when the Irish were suffering an economic downturn and they came over and took jobs from Americans.) Lets not make this a race issue, even though, the predominant lawbreakers are Mexican. We have a quota allowance for immigration and people are ignoring it.

There are some nice people here who are illegal and it isn't about compassion or that they are nice -- I just don't like the illegal aspect of their presence. It is disrespectful and they assert rights that Americans would never be able to assert overseas, let alone in Latin America or the European Union. I am fascinated by the latino culture, love tortilla soup, Asian food -- and love Irish dance. I just draw the line with illegals who have done something that I have never thought of doing -- going to another country and taking advantage of their system uninvited. I am more respectful of other sovereign countries's rights than that. It is troubling that there are illegals here that don't share that respect for borders, laws and what's right and don't have the courage to shape their own future in their own country. Instead, we are left with society here where everyone is segregated and keeps to themselves.

My solution is to enforce the law where it should be rather than to ignore the law. (its not about little girls here but it is about illegals who come here with the intention of giving birth to make a claim for their progeny). There is no order to this mad dash to the US where we have unwanted people underfoot living amongst us. We are doomed -- not tomorrow, or the next day but our children will have to deal with the consequences of an unprotected border where people sneak in any way they can.

Posted by: oakland | May 20, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

The comments that suggest that there is xenophobia or lack of "compassion" (whatever it is that they want it to mean) in those who advocate for the laws to be follow are absurd. As a nation, we are not xenophobic or anti-immigrant. I'd like anyone to point out any nation that takes more immigrants yearly than we do. Most commenting on these posts have an issue with illegal immigrants, not with those who work or worked their way through the system legally.

There is no lack of compassion, either. The canons of law are such that they demand that people should not be rewarded for breaking the law. Illegal immigrants break the law (their reasons for doing so aside). The state has a right to create and enforce immigration law and has the duty to enforce these laws.

If we want to be just and compassionate, we also need to be responsible. Compassion and law are not one and the same. Compassion and common sense sometimes do not mix.

It is not compassionate to accept that it is right to have two spearte groups of immigrants (those working within the boundaries of the rules and those who do not). Is it compassionate to effectively punish those legal immigrants for coming here legally?

Blanket ammensty only will make the process longer for those who already have been through a lot to get in line. That is not compassionate. Blanket amnesty only will encourage more rule breaking (not matter how many promises politicans make of a one-time only exception). Putting the system in danger because of such well-meant intent is not compassionate.

Blanket amnesty only rewards behaviour that was wrong to start with. Rewarding bad behaviour is not compassionate.

A show of compassion as proposed by some here only introduces injustice and unfairness. Compassion at the expense of justice/the law is not a solution.

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

BTW, Maryland isn't broke. They just gave CASA de Maryland $51 MILLION, in taxpayer dollars, in the form of grants and contracts.

The State obviously has too much money on their hands.

Posted by: Computer_Forensics_Expert_Computer_Expert_Witness | May 20, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Yes, there will come a time when people of color will no longer be the minority, but the majority, and it does scare the pants off some haoles. Here in Hawai'i, that is already the case and our world hasn't come to an end. On the contrary, diversity makes life fun and interesting. I am considered a minority here. But, because I am respectful and humble, I'm treated with the utmost respect and kindness. Hawai'i no ka oi!!!

Posted by: mauigrrl | May 20, 2010 8:45 PM | Report abuse

mauigrrl wrote:

"Yes, there will come a time when people of color will no longer be the minority, but the majority, and it does scare the pants off some haoles. Here in Hawai'i, that is already the case and our world hasn't come to an end. On the contrary, diversity makes life fun and interesting. I am considered a minority here. But, because I am respectful and humble, I'm treated with the utmost respect and kindness. Hawai'i no ka oi!!!"
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You are mixing appleas and oranges in throngs. Arguing for respect of current law has nothing to do with arguing or fearing whether people of colour will be the majority or minority. Your argument appears to be that (1) immigration law is racist or (2) those arguing for respect of the law are racist. You never take a stand on the issue, which is whether or not the law should be enforced.


Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

Arizona’s Immigration Bill is causing a lot of controversy right now, but do you know why the good people of Arizona are standing behind this legislation putting themselves at risk from boycott’s and other economic setbacks set forth by other states. Check out this little video we put together. The people of Arizona have had enough, and this is why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4sdtM0l_Ow

Posted by: vdp101 | May 20, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Many immigrants are looking for better life. Thirty years ago I hired a housekeeper from Columbia with two toddlers she had brought on a harrowing trip through Central America and Mexico to Houston, where she had a distant relative. She spoke no English, and she, atypically for Columbia, was black. She worked 2 jobs to raise her daughters. When they went to public school, she thought their education wasn't good enough, and worked extra to send them to private school. After being swindled by several immigration attorneys, she eventually attained citizenship.
She learned perfect English, put herself and her daughters through college, got her Masters Degree in English, and now teaches English as a second language. She did this all honestly; she is one of the most upright and honest people I know. For every story one hears of "criminal immigrants", there are many who are here to work hard for a better life for their families.

Many "Americans" just came here and stole land from Native Americans. This country was founded by people who got by the leaky barrier fences of the Native Americans. Maybe we should deport those descendants of the Pilgrims.

Posted by: sevenahead | May 20, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

"Why isn't there a call to help these illegal parents of US born children to become naturalized?"
Posted by: tr_gina
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Come to McAllen, TX, and watch the parade of 8-9mo pregnant young women streaming across the bridge to have their kids at taxpayer expense on the U.S. side of the border, and you'll know why. It's a shameless exploitation of our law's provision for citizenship based on birth locale, regardless of the legal status of the parents. NO OTHER country permits the right to citizenship to be debased so freely.
The 14th Amendment needs to be clarified to grant citizenship by birth ONLY if at least one parent is a legal resident or citizen.

Posted by: OttoDog | May 20, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

What can we expect from Obama who just made certain his aunt, who has been in our country illegally for more than 5 years, asylum based on a bogus premise?

Her mother knew she broke our federal illegal immigration law and just did not care and now her young daughter must bear the fear. What kind of a parent would put this on their child? Definitely not someone who wants to set a moral example. The burden on this child is heavy and her parents did not seem to care when they made the decision to break the law of the United States of America.

Perhaps, this little girl can live with family members who are in the United States legally while her mother goes back to Peru and is legally sponsored into our country which is what she should have done in the first place.

Posted by: imaginemore | May 20, 2010 9:12 PM | Report abuse

mauigrrl:

The irony of an island dweller lecturing the rest of us on securing our borders is priceless.

Posted by: OttoDog | May 20, 2010 9:16 PM | Report abuse

Many immigrants are looking for a better life. Thirty years ago I hired a housekeeper from Columbia with two toddlers she had brought on a harrowing trip through Central America and Mexico to Houston, where she had a distant relative. She spoke no English, and she, atypically for Columbia, was black. She worked 2 jobs to raise her daughters. When they went to public school, she thought their education wasn't good enough, and worked extra to send them to private school. After being swindled by several immigration attorneys, she eventually attained citizenship.
She learned perfect English, put herself and her daughters through college, got her Masters Degree in English, and now teaches English as a second language. She did this all honestly; she is one of the most upright and honest people I know. For every story one hears of "criminal immigrants", there are many who are here to work hard for a better life for their families.

Many "Americans" just came here and stole land from Native Americans. This country was founded by people who got by the leaky barrier fences of the Native Americans. Maybe we should deport those descendants of the Pilgrims.

Posted by: sevenahead | May 20, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

It's so easy to spot a conservative these days. They're the ones who are completely devoid of empathy and decency, driven by greed, and controlled by their fearful lizard brains. "Send them both back to Peru!," these unfeeling slugs cry, because to them, compassion is as foreign as French wine... er, I mean Freedom wine.

Posted by: unpeople | May 20, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

sevenahead wrote:

"Many immigrants are looking for better life. Thirty years ago I hired a housekeeper from Columbia with two toddlers she had brought on a harrowing trip through Central America and Mexico to Houston, where she had a distant relative. She spoke no English, and she, atypically for Columbia, was black. She worked 2 jobs to raise her daughters. When they went to public school, she thought their education wasn't good enough, and worked extra to send them to private school. After being swindled by several immigration attorneys, she eventually attained citizenship.
She learned perfect English, put herself and her daughters through college, got her Masters Degree in English, and now teaches English as a second language. She did this all honestly; she is one of the most upright and honest people I know. For every story one hears of "criminal immigrants", there are many who are here to work hard for a better life for their families.

Many "Americans" just came here and stole land from Native Americans. This country was founded by people who got by the leaky barrier fences of the Native Americans. Maybe we should deport those descendants of the Pilgrims. "
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It is hard to figure out what your argument towards illegal immigration is based on these comments. It is true that most immigrants want a better life for themselves and their kin. I doubt many a poster here would disagree that the opportunity to build a better future for oneself should not be granted to those who work thorugh the system to become legal residents or citizens of the US. If the person in your example did everything by the book, kudos to her (I did, also, by the way). Still, what is your point?

As to your paragraph on the illegal Pilgrims, please grow up.

BTW, it is "Colombia."

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

unpeople wrote:

"It's so easy to spot a conservative these days. They're the ones who are completely devoid of empathy and decency, driven by greed, and controlled by their fearful lizard brains. "Send them both back to Peru!," these unfeeling slugs cry, because to them, compassion is as foreign as French wine... er, I mean Freedom wine. "
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Compassion does not trump common sense. Compassion does not trump the law. True compassion does not justify breaking the law. True compassion does not justify commiting a crime. True compassion does not justify an endless cycle of law-breaking.

"Compassionate" policies tend to lead to huge unintended consequences and disasters that are even more difficult to fix than the original problem. It is not for nothing that one of the true maxims of all time is that the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Posted by: argie | May 20, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

A) The jobs filled by those who are in this country without documentation (I'll hardly call it illegal since we all started out as immigrants in some shape or form) are hardly those that anyone posting on this blog would fill.

B) The jobs filled by those who are here without documentation are not those who ANYONE in America would voluntarily fill. The unemployment that exists in this county is not a result of "illegals." it is a result of the idiots who are here legally thinking they are entitled to some dream.

C) There are two things in life that are guaranteed - Death and Taxes. Your tax money is going to be taken from you regardless of who is here with or without papers. That money is gone. It's gone before you even earn it. You don't even get a chance to miss it. It goes to keeping drug addicted American mothers on welfare. It goes to supporting my dumbass friends who can't hold down a job and are too lazy to really try to find one. It goes to schools I will never send my kids to, and police I will never have to call. It goes to feeding soldiers, building a highway in Utah, and keeping some reject gang member in jail for the rest of his life. It happens. It's going to keep happening. Stop using that lame excuse as though it's some sort of justification for your agendas.

And all the while we live a relatively happy life. So what if 2 dollars of my tax money goes to keeping somebody who hasn't quite gotten the chance to pledge allegiance to my flag in a state that is infinitely better than the life they have chosen to leave behind?

I would love to know how many of you who cry "not with my tax dollars" regularly hand out dollar bills to the bums on the streets who do nothing to earn your handouts. It's those rejects who need to be shipped out...not the ones who might actually be trying.

Posted by: Rainier1 | May 20, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

ice agents should follow this wetback right home and get the mother an look around while there...i bet my next paycheck that they will find more than the mom here illegal. and oh! i forgot...my check will be shorter,,,i have to pay taxes for this illegal girl&mom & perhaps the rest of the family..STILL WANNA BET?

Posted by: WORKINGPOOR | May 20, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

The Girls Mother is from Peru without connections to the powers to be-Sorry Girl,the free ticket was given to the Presidents Aunty.

Posted by: handjacan | May 20, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Am I the only cynical person alive or what? Are we really to believe that this seven year old, discerning enough to know she was talking to the wives of Obama and Calderon, was not discerning enough to wonder about the consequences of announcing to the American public that her mother had no papers. Even after all her coaching, she got the question wrong. Am I the only one who has watched how time and again the Obama administration "sets up" the scene for their own effect?

Posted by: postnews3 | May 20, 2010 9:42 PM | Report abuse

Nice week for the Obamas. First, he gets his Aunt asylum after she:
a. lived her illegally for two years before claiming asylum
b. ignored a judge's order to leave in 2004
c. lived illegally in public housing in a city with thousands of people on the public housing waiting list
(BTW, she got asylum because she claimed persecution based on her clan - all of his relatives who still live there have faced no such persecution - duh!). And now Michelle prevents an illegal from being deported after her kid drops a dime on her on national TV! Imagine, we are in the worst recession in decades, 20 million unemployed, and Obama wants to INCREASE the number of people competing for real - not under the table -jobs. Great idea, because the unemployed don;t vote! I hope the Dems enjoy the Hispanic vote - its the only part of the vote they'll get in November.

Posted by: GoinPostal84 | May 20, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Yep...totally staged photo-op.

LIES.

Because the feds lied about closing the borders after the last amnesty in 1986 - we won't play or pay again...no matter how many kids you drag in front of the camera.

Posted by: joesmithdefend | May 20, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I do not understand why so many people are wanting to deport this little girl. Most legal immigrants are not a burden to the state they actually pay more into the system than they use. It was immigrants that made this country and you shall discover that with an aging population drawing on social security you will need more people paying in to it OR raise taxes. So unless you want higher taxes, let the hard working immigrants stay. Chase the bad guys instead.

Posted by: allan_kirby | May 20, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Simple solution:

1. A $1 million dollar fine - per offense - to any employer who employs an illegal - E-verify mandatory. This should stop it. However, just in case:
2. identity theft becomes a capital offense - you use fake docs belonging to an American - one phone call to say goodbye and bye bye!
3. being caught illegally present becomes a felony first offense
4. being caught illegally present becomes a capital crime on second offense - can't produce any legal docs after one week and 5 free phone calls? Bye bye! No deportation and low incarceration costs.
5. Illegally present parents giving birth do not get anchor babies - child gets citizenship of mother.
6. Children must prove legal status to use public schools
7. Any school receiving any public money who admits an illegal loses all public money and be subject to a $1 million fine.
8. Any school that offers scholarships to foreign students before providing full scholarships to any American student will lose all public money for 10 years.

And just to show I am not a Neanderthal:

9. Expand the work visa program - with strong anti-fraud measures. This will bring LEGAL workers here when we need them. Make the numbers based on the unemployment rate. If they do a good job and we have the room, they can get a green card after 10 years. Citizenship after 15.

Posted by: GoinPostal84 | May 20, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Obama's aunt situation is a bogus argument: I haven't spoken to first cousins in over 20 years...thought one was in Md. but just found out he now lives in Fl. Thought the other was in Fl. but just found out he lives in North Carolina.

Helped a friend through her death some years ago...her closest relatives were an uncle and cousin California whom she hadn't spoken to in 20 years...didn't even know if they were alive! I was never able to locate them. Just because we are related to people doesn't mean we have to Like them or Love them or Know if they are alive or Know where they live!!!

Posted by: DecafDrinker | May 20, 2010 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Let's get real. There's no way to deport all the illegal aliens. We aren't even sure how many there are. And who's going to pay to transport them back to their countries? You tea-partiers and birfers will have to pay much higher taxes for that. My ancestors got here in the eighteenth and nineteenth century, and I have found no record that they had any papers nor were naturalized. I guess that makes me an illegal, but good luck trying to figure out which of their countries to deport me to.

Posted by: jlhare1 | May 20, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

The mother is an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT . . . The MOTHER made a decision to cross our border illegally . . .That is suppose to be a crime . . . The operative word is ILLEGAL . . .Send them back to Peru where they came from . . .
Obama will not take any immigration reform action until after the election. He will
give amnesty to all of the ILLEGAL immigrants at that time. To do so now would cost democrats even more seats in congress.

Posted by: rappo12447 | May 20, 2010 11:34 PM | Report abuse

Wow - yeah, let's take the "testimony" of a 2nd grader as "solid law enforcement." Come on folks. Do you understand that ICE can't begin to work all of the leads they have to remove illegal aliens? Do you want them going after this (likely legal) child's mother (who may or may not be illegal) or going after known and suspected criminals?

Posted by: t8tet8te | May 20, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

I am continually amazed at the lack of knowledge exposed by many who comment on this forum. Before I complain about who is illegal and who is not, I would check to see how and when my own ancestors came to the United States of America. Also, how many who profess to believe in the constitution really don't unless it is in the selfish interest of the master race. The USA was colonized by illegal aliens. The number of Europeans that have been here for ages that do not, fully, speak English is staggering. I would suggest that, and I know that the Masters in our midst don't care what I think, they check their own status. If they find that their first ancestors in what is now the USA, that we(all?)know and love, did not get valid visas from the Native Americans, leave voluntarily and return to from whence their forebearers came. Their mantra seems to be, " If you are white, you are all right."

Posted by: minitman60 | May 20, 2010 11:51 PM | Report abuse

This precious little darling child should be in her mother's arms, when her mother is deported. Unless, the father of the child is an American citizen. Then, in that case the only the mother should be deported. But if both the mother and the father are illegal immigrants, with no papers, then in that case, both parents and their child should all be returned to Perus. No papers, no staying in the U.S.

Posted by: richardcolonel | May 20, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I am getting sick and tired of all of the Mexicans here illegally and our Government dont seem to want to do anything about it. All of us legal citixens have to pay for all of these illegals that are here for schooling, medical and everything else that they want. What if we decided not to pay taxes anymore unless they went to benefit all of us legal citizens only.

Posted by: randykree | May 20, 2010 11:57 PM | Report abuse

Bypassing all of the anti-illegal immigration rhetoric I don't think anyone thought that the mother has been in the States for years and the little girl, if she was born in the States, is a legal citizen no matter what her mothers status.

So instead of finding out why mommy is illegal and trying to correct the issue you would kick the mother out as well as the little girl who may be a U.S. citizen.

I think it would be more to the point to worry about the drug lords who have free access from Mexico.

Posted by: waggoner41 | May 21, 2010 12:15 AM | Report abuse

You must be kidding! This was no chance conversation. It was scripted! We should be educating children about math, science and ethics instead of entitlements.

Posted by: MonicaS1 | May 21, 2010 12:20 AM | Report abuse

First does anyone not thing this was Planned??

Timing could not be better.

America is the only country in the world that ALLOWS illegal immigrations from all countries.

By the current doctrine.. ALL the worlds citizens can cross our borders.. and go on the dole.

At some point in time someone has to say no.. to illegal immigration.

I get a traffic ticket... I pay a fine. I pay taxes, I obey the laws..

While this situation is sad.. It is the FAULT of our elected officials not the American Citizens.

TAke a look at immigration laws of OTHER COUNTRIES and governments.

How many countries all free loaders to participate in foreign governments.

I saw a video where the Mexican President stood up in FRONT OF CONGRESS and said that he disagreed with the AZ Law.. And CONGRESS APPLAUDED the JERK.

Folks, we have to stand up and vote all those LIBERAL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT politicians out of office in 2010, 2012, 2014.

Anyone that continues to support illegal immigration into the United States should be tried for TREASON.. stripped of their elected position, stripped of their pensions, their health benefits removed. and DEPORTED TO MEXICO.

That includes the Obamas as well.

Posted by: miller515501 | May 21, 2010 12:49 AM | Report abuse

I do hear an awful lot about illegals not paying taxes. But as a counterpoint, I will argue that a large majority do pay taxes. Many commit fraud (falsified social security numbers) but the money is deducted from their paychecks and forwarded to the government like everyone else's. However, no illegal alien in their right mind would file taxes like the rest of us. Any overpayments remain in the government coffers. This isn't a small minority of illegals it is a large percentage. Just a thought that we may not be shouldering as much of the tax burden as we first believed.

Posted by: Marc_Antony | May 21, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

Laila1, first, birthright citizenship didn't start until the 20th century. Check the facts. Secondy, plase explain how an illegal immigrant can have the social security number necessary to fill out their employment papers, so that they can get their job, so payroll taxes can be deducted. Not possibe, unless they broke the law again, and used someone else's social security number, which is also ILLEGAL. SO now they've broken two laws of their new country that they love so much.
SO in one post, you've lied two times to protect people who are taking jobs from one out of ten of your friends. What would that out of work friend tell you about the illegal immigrant who took his job?
Do you hate the guy who you saw on the side of the road today, who got caught in a speed trap? No? Then why is it hate talk when we speak about people who broke our laws to get in the country, probably tresspassed on a rancher's land when they did so, and are now stealing our resources and our jobs?
Would you hate the person who broke in your house, threatened your family, and then stole your pocketbook and jewelry? Well, at least 20% of the people in jail today are illegal aliens who committed felonies. Is it hate speech to talk about these things? To think about them? And then to act on these facts?

Posted by: gburton58 | May 21, 2010 2:36 AM | Report abuse

WWJD? What could we do?

Fully support the Arizona boycott.

Force employers to provide "fair market" wages for all the bad jobs Americans won't do for no pay. Grant all these people amnesty, huge taxes on multi-millionaires, legalize drugs and stop the wars, provide free health care, education, and economic opportunity for all the poor people in America and help others do the same. Support progressive, cultural education not just the drivel offered by bought and paid for politicians.

Unfortunately, the whole country is filled with a bunch of ignorant, conservative rednecks and unless we turn this around the country will continue to deteriorate. History and evolution teach us that failure to improve and adapt results in extinction; America is not exempt.

How many are there that would have this little girl or at least her mother shot and/or deported? Sad, sad, sad. We have a lot of work to do but change is possible! We all need to be progressive and not have sympathy for those who are bigoted and selfish.

Posted by: Jake27 | May 21, 2010 8:03 AM | Report abuse

Yeah and the Indians had poor immigration controls. I'd like to send alluhyall's worthless asses back to where your illegal grandpappies came from-- not the Peruvians, they cool, but you peckerwoods who luv the benefits of cheap salads and clean sheets and cheap construction wages but wanna perpetuate the virtual slavery of 21st century workers with your ignorance fear and loathing of anyone from some place else. You complacent sob's make me puke.
(I mean this in the kindest possible way;-)

Posted by: renderedright | May 21, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

Yeah and the Indians had poor immigration controls. I'd like to send alluuyall's worthless asses back to where your illegal grandpappies came from-- not the Peruvians, they cool, but you peckerwoods who luv the benefits of cheap salads and clean sheets and cheap construction wages but wanna perpetuate the virtual slavery of 21st century workers with your ignorance fear and loathing of anyone from some place else. You complacent sob's make me puke.
(I mean this in the kindest possible way;-)

Posted by: renderedright | May 21, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

minitman60 wrote:
"I am continually amazed at the lack of knowledge exposed by many who comment on this forum. Before I complain about who is illegal and who is not, I would check to see how and when my own ancestors came to the United States of America. Also, how many who profess to believe in the constitution really don't unless it is in the selfish interest of the master race. The USA was colonized by illegal aliens. The number of Europeans that have been here for ages that do not, fully, speak English is staggering. I would suggest that, and I know that the Masters in our midst don't care what I think, they check their own status. If they find that their first ancestors in what is now the USA, that we(all?)know and love, did not get valid visas from the Native Americans, leave voluntarily and return to from whence their forebearers came. Their mantra seems to be, " If you are white, you are all right."
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Well, many of us (non-Europeans) are very much amazed at the mindless drivel about the illegal Pilgrims and original settlers. The argument is a straw man that deflects the question being asked, negates realities, international law, and is, in short, inane.

Sned us a postcard when you get bakc to Europe (or whatever it is your ancestors came from); though you may be driven out of there since, essentially, pretty few people woudl have the right to live where they live today worldwide using your argument.

Posted by: argie | May 21, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

renderedright wrote:
"Yeah and the Indians had poor immigration controls. I'd like to send alluuyall's worthless asses back to where your illegal grandpappies came from-- not the Peruvians, they cool, but you peckerwoods who luv the benefits of cheap salads and clean sheets and cheap construction wages but wanna perpetuate the virtual slavery of 21st century workers with your ignorance fear and loathing of anyone from some place else. You complacent sob's make me puke.
(I mean this in the kindest possible way;-)"
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And, yet, not any valid response to the question at hand; just lots of mindless drivel about our grandaddies (which is not germane to the argument), and fear and loathing (which truly are not at the heart of the illegal immigrant discussion).

Your arguments and reasoning are too facile.

Posted by: argie | May 21, 2010 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Before you take this child's performance episode at face value, think:
Shirley Temple began her acting career at age three and had her first big film role "Bright Eyes" around age seven. Drew Barrymore filmed ET: ExtraTerrestrial at the age of six and that was her second film role. Do you still believe that the news is totally true, never manipulated and never biased? If you do, I'm sad for you.

Posted by: JWTinTN | May 21, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

This only reflects the idiotic,bleeding heart complacency of our Nation. It obviously starts at the top!

Even when by chance or investigation an ILLEGAL is exposed, our Administration, for the sake of POPULARITY, fails to act.

I think the whole thing was staged but to come right out and say you're going to do nothing? Good Job, Mr. Slacker President...

Perhaps it isn't well known who is sneaking across our borders, Congress didn't and may not yet if they continue to ignore blatant lawbreakers.

Ask the Washington Post or your Congress person about the U.S.Border Patrol's "OTM" list(Other Than Mexican) of HIGH National Security Risk people coming across Arizona's border.

If you really want to know the truth check it out yourself, that is if you have the AMERICAN guts to do so.

Here are the links to two short videos that expose what has been hidden from Congress and the American people, as reported by WSBTV in Atlanta,Georgia:

Video 1 http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438021/index.html
Video 2 http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html

Come on America, WAKE UP!

Posted by: rsmowery | May 21, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

There's one set of rules for American citizens, and one set of rules for illegals.

No, I correct myself: with illegals, anything goes. As long as the citizens are there to pick up the tab.

Both obamas are disgusting.

Posted by: wmpowellfan | May 21, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

For all of you duffs that still comment about the immigrants that came to America centuries ago, hopefully, you can still gather a few new brain cells to reason this out.

Need help?

Since our coming to the wilderness of America, laws were enacted regarding immigration.

Don't you wonder why that was?

Today we still have laws regarding immigration.

Don't you wonder why that is?

Today we don't enforce those laws.

Don't you wonder why that is?

Today we have an illegal immigration problem.

Don't you wonder why that is?

Today we have Terrorist,Gun, Drug and Human Smugglers freely crossing our borders.

Don't you wonder why that is?

If you ever get it together enough to figure it out, Welcome to America.

Posted by: rsmowery | May 21, 2010 11:13 AM | Report abuse

So many of you seem to be citing the law in an effort elevate your comments of bigotry, hatred and wishes for national isolationism to something other than pure, plain fear. Get real!

If you want to really do something about immigration, start by doing something to eliminate poverty in the world. No fence, politician or policy on IMMIGRATION will succeed unless it includes a way to address WORLD POVERTY.

I'll ask again, honestly, if you had to cross a boarder to feed your children, help your parents or save your family, would you?

What do you think would change about "our immigration problem" if the 43,000 TONS of food thrown away in the US each day was shared, if 2.5 Billion people didn't lack access to improved sanitation, if 1 Billion children weren't deprived of one or more services essential to survival and development and if 23,000 children under the age of 5 didn't die each day from poverty, hunger, easily preventable diseases and illnesses?

Posted by: WhatsTheREALQestion | May 21, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

It's amazing how people react against Hispanics, and this case in particular to a 7 year old child, BTW she is not Mexican like people like to categorize Hispanics, read the article and find out she is from Peru, different continent all together. To me is just disgusting, to even making them think a child could stage a questions, why would the first lady of Mexico give a darn about this, the child is NOT Mexican. And why isn't anyone against all the Asian, Arabs and ester European immigrants that are coming by the millions to this country, not all of them are here legally and doing legal things, many of the human trafficking going on right now is carried out by eastern Europeans, I don't see anyone attacking them, and its because they can easily blend with the white people, I'm a very proud American citizen, but I can't stand it when people have prejudice against specific groups, if there is a law it should measure everyone the same, not one group should be isolated and condemn because of their ethnicity. I guess people found another group to hate, first they hated the blacks now the Hispanics.

Posted by: veranordalm | May 21, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

So now, with this child's two minutes of fame, there will be a book coming out in the near future.....

Posted by: pkbishop1 | May 21, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

"Why? What is legal about illegal?"

Nothing. But one can ask:

What is reasonable about the laws we have?

Nothing.

We need workers. We now have workers.

They are from Mexico and further south.

Why send them anywhere? We should give them a bonus and thank them for their work.

Posted by: GaryEMasters | May 21, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"Today we don't enforce those laws.

Don't you wonder why that is?"

I don't. I have been in Laredo, Texas where they picked up workers in buses to bring them to work. I know we need workers and the current system brings them in as "illegal" to keep them subservient. This is wrong.

Stop it!!

Posted by: GaryEMasters | May 21, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

I bet the dinner conversation at that home was interesting that night.

Posted by: MichaelOwen04 | May 21, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

It's 2050.

The First Lady (NOT MO) is visiting a nearby elementary school. A little Caucasian child raises her hand to ask the following question:

My mommy said she doesn't want to buy health insurance but the government is forcing her. She's afraid they are coming to get her..."

The ending of the story:
IRS agents raid her house and arrest the mom for failing to buy health insurance and failing to pay the taxes incurred for all the years she refused to buy health insurance!

Things to look forward to....

Posted by: american17 | May 21, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

how is this any different than if a police spokesman said "the police department is primarily concerned about murderers and rapists, we do not prosecute thieves"..

apparently ICE has been granted the special judicial power of deciding which laws are MORE just.

Posted by: oredith | May 21, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm going to bet that not one of the people who wants these 'illegals' sent back to where they came from can show that the people who were here when Columbus arrived INVITED their family over.
The people that followed Columbus murdered, robbed and raped there way from the Atlantic clear to the Pacific.
So I don't think any of us are really here legally - but maybe it's that we're white. Ya think?

Posted by: joel_franz | May 21, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I'm appalled by the number of McVie like attitudes displayed here. Not too long ago
this country was profoundly Christian.
What's really at work here?

Posted by: cmonpeople | May 21, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

this from a hater named hared. "...where do all of these traitorous jews, catholics and blacks get off that they speak for the majority who aren't having any of it. The ACLU and media jews, dinwitted and opportunistic blacks and traitorous latino/hispanic catholics will reap an angry whirlwind here soon, and without sympathy nor quarter. Traitors will always be dealt with in the harshest measure, and deservedly so."

Hey hared, WTF? You and your hate mongering ilk like to boast that this country is yours. Be advised, pal, there are plenty Americans (my folks have been here since before it was a country) who won't tolerate intolerance. Crawl back in your bunker and write your own Mein Kampf. Show up with that kind of talk at MY door and the consequences will be dire indeed.

Posted by: ghosthouse | May 21, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

im glad people want to deport a young, legal 2nd grader...hopefully the same thing will happen to your children.

Posted by: ad111 | May 21, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

"Look, there are legal means of immigrating to America. These people skip the line."
Posted by diesel_skins_
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Yes, yes: send them all to the immigration station at Ellis Island so they can wait in line like everyone else and be properly documented.

Posted by: sqop | May 21, 2010 10:56 PM | Report abuse

ad111 wrote:
"im glad people want to deport a young, legal 2nd grader...hopefully the same thing will happen to your children."
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Most people on these posts are arguing for enforcing the law. If a person is in this nation legally, I am hard-pressed to find a poster who argues that person should be deported as there would be no basis for such action.

If the child is here legally, no one would argue for her expulsion. If the parents are here illegally, then the parents are subject to the law and, having broken it, are faced with the consequences.

So, now, you have a person who is subject to deportation for having broken the law and a child who may be here legally. The latter does not trump the former. The parent or parents have choices at that point. If the child must leave the US for a while before returning to the country when she can do so on her own, so be it.

You will tell me that it is heartless to advocate so. It is difficult, I will grant you that. Yet, it is not heartless.

Posted by: argie | May 22, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

cmonpeople wrote:
"I'm appalled by the number of McVie like attitudes displayed here. Not too long ago
this country was profoundly Christian.
What's really at work here? "
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Quick question: what's not Christian about enforcing the law? No one is advocating that the person who entered and remained in the nation in contravention of established (and sensible) laws be fed to the sharks, or be executed, or be sent someplace where they likely would face torture or death (we do make sensible exceptions as a nation when there is a well-established danger to a potential deportee). Your response would have us believe that deportation is inhumane and would necessarily mean exposing the deportee to a world of hurt, penury and worse. It is not so.

If your argument were that every person has dignity and value and we ought to respect that, I would agree with you. Having accepted a person's worth, that does not mena that one accepts that has the right to skirt properly enacted and enforced laws by a sovereign, rightful, elected, and (yes) humane government.

Christian doctrine does, indeed, accept the right of the state to enforce its laws and, furthermore, promotes the duty of the government to enforce the laws justly.

Christian doctrine would, moreover, argue that our decisions and judgments regarding the law and politics need to be made rationally rather than emotionally.

There is nothing behind the curtain as you would suggest by your comment. We are not, as a rule, a xenophobic or anti-immigrant nation. We are not racist and exclusionist. That argument is growing tired and trite, as is the "let yourself be guided by your heart" ditty.

Posted by: argie | May 22, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

From the postings, someone might think that Americans are a very law-abiding people and would do anything to protect the rule of law. However, at about the same time this child reported that her mother was guilty of the crime of overstaying a visa in order to work, the Inspector General for a federal agency announced that there would be no prosecutions of civil servants who used government credit cards to purchase tens of thousands of dollars worth of luxury items for themselves, leaving the taxpayers to pay the bill. Why are the laws against theft, fraud, and other criminal acts suddenly unimportant if these acts are committed by federal employees, while overstaying a visa to work at a low paying job is a crime that ignites fits of rage among such a large percentage of ordinary Americans? When I provided the FBI with proof that a civil servant had committed purjury during an administrative hearing, I was told immediately that such a crime was not of interest to them. In a letter to Attorney General Holder, I complained that documents had been illegally altered by federal employees prior to submission to an administrative board investigating a crime that has already cost me several hundred thousand dollars. I have not received any response to this letter for more than a year, but then I am only a war veteran and the federal civil servants are people given immunity from all laws because they have "sovereign immunity."
The woman so many Americans want to deport for "breaking the law" stole money from nobody. She was simply providing labor for less than an average salary, making products and services cheaper. The demand to have her punished while allowing civil servants to blatantly steal millions, discriminate against veterans to the point of making them homeless or even dead, deceive the public, blacklist whistleblowers for disclosing lawbreaking by high officials, and lie in sworn statements shows that many Americans are not really so concerned with the law but rather with maintaining their own version of a caste system. Who should law enforcement go after first, the person who's papers are not in order or the person who is actively destroying the lives of millions of Americans, including our war veterans, and stealing millions of dollars through corrupt dealings while in public office?

Posted by: cwheckman | May 22, 2010 11:54 AM | Report abuse

The irony of all the uninformed comment that we see here is that it is NOT TRUE that the presence of 10 million illegal immigrants is a burden on the economy, even if it is possible to show that they may be a burden on one or another agency in specific locations. It is pretty simple economics. Just imagine the jolt to the economy it would be if 10 million workers suddenly stopped producing. Just do simple calculations using your best guess as to the value of the products these 10 million workers pump into our economy. Then ask yourself what is meant by "The Multiplier Effect," that we economists talk about. Finally ask yourself what it would mean if we had to replace all these menial workers at the price their replacements would be able to demand. Ask yourself what that would mean to the price of a head of lettuce and any other thing these workers produce. I hate liars, and most of all I hate those who hide and distort the facts for the sake of a vote. There's a very good reason why successive governments will always pay lip service to repatriation of immigrants and NEVER do anything about it. The laws are there and will remain there, they have a very important function. They are there to stem and control the flow, it is a flow that we CANNOT afford to cut off.

Posted by: brerlou | May 23, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Why are we concerning ourselves with the children of parents who put them into this position by breaking the law more than we are concerning ourselves with our own children who are being raped and murdered in significant numbers by those entering this country? Our own children are having to grow up faster and face the very real danger, especially those with working parents, of walking home from school and being kidnapped. You cannot argue with the numbers. Why should we have to fear for our children's safety?

Posted by: concernedLakota | May 23, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Its very sad to hear so many of you being racist and a bigot. This is one of the main reasons why I'm against SB 1070. The only people that are supporting this law are those who are total idiots and uneducated.

SB 1070 is not only a bad idea to America but to our local Law Enforcement and communities. Its truly amazing that we have hypocritical US citizens that believe the illegals are at fault for our economic situation. We have been in this situation for decades and we will continue to be in it for decades to come. There is no getting out of this. Blaming others for what we develop is very stupid.

As for SB 1070 we have no way whatsoever to fund this Law. Okay you say we should pay for it because in the end it would cost less if we get all the illegals out.
What planet are you from if you know anything about math or population substracted by low industry you are well aware it would cost us more to try to enforce this Law. We need to take it to the drawing board and come up with somethig better.

I believe in stricter immigration laws but we have to be humane about it. We are no longer world power people weather you want to believe that or not. I think we can be leaders in other ways which in turn gives us another form of power. Which is thee ultimate power that no other country has.

But you really think building bombs, guns, and making more laws will make our communities safe or keep us world power. How stupid! learn your history its a cycle that every civilization goes through. Well people our time is almost up and most of us see it others are in denial. How we choose to end it can be make difference for our future civilizations.

I have no problem with people coming to this country to have a better and safer life. Obviously other countries have way too many issues and are self-center to focus on there economy and citizens that they will probably never get out of their situations.


As for the little girl she has a right to ask any question she wants and have a right to advocate for her mom. And yes I will pay more taxes for good people to remain in the US. I am doing us a favor at the same time doing what GOD expects me to do. So those of you who choose to disgrace our country by being racist, bias, bigots,discriminating, hyprocritical, idiots, heartless, and etc. You have a long fight on your hands. The good will always prevail over evil. Regardless what happens, sooner or later people will come to understand that SB 1070 is a number that will negatively change our way of life. In nature's eyes and even worse GOD's eyes. Lets hope his wrath has a forgiving heart for those who were against SB 1070.

God please forgive those who do not understand. They do not know what they do. If it happens to come where you have to take over the situation. Please have mercy on those who were against it and did try to change it.

Posted by: jorrell1 | May 24, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

1) In response to "there are legal means of immigrating to America." For most people, there just aren't. The "lines" are so long and ways of getting authorization are so restrictive that our system does not adequately deal with the demands--both internal and external--that contribute to the flow of migrants to this country. Feeling righteous about being here after your grandparents immigrated legally? Chances are they didn't apply for a visa or a green card first because they didn't have to!
2) A fine point, but I have to say it: it is not a "crime" to be here without authorization. It is a civil violation, one that is not determined by a criminal court and is not punishable by prison time or monetary fines.

Posted by: jmass | May 27, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

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