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Conservative activist James O'Keefe alleges fraud by Census Bureau

By Ed O'Keefe

Conservative muckraker James O'Keefe (no relation to this blogger) is raising questions about hiring and payment policies at the U.S. Census Bureau, saying he was hired in late April and overpaid for completing training courses.

O'Keefe first earned national attention last year for exposing Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now housing counselors, who appeared to encourage him to conceal a purported illegal prostitution business in order to get housing help. He also pleaded guilty last week to a misdemeanor charge of entering the New Orleans offices of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) under false pretenses. Speaking Tuesday on ABC's "Good Morning America," O'Keefe said that he would do it again.

O'Keefe has posted a 10-minute video report on the BigGovernment.com Web site that shows footage shot in late April at two census offices in Bergen County, N.J. where he was hired and completed a two-day paid training course on how to conduct door-to-door interviews with people who failed to mail back 2010 Census forms.

O'Keefe quit on the third day of training and was later paid $18.25 an hour for 19 and a half hours of work, even though he completed 16 hours of training, he said. The video he secretly filmed also shows census supervisors granting a 70-minute paid lunch break despite worker time cards that reported a 30-minute break. Another friend had a similar experience with a Census office in Louisiana, O'Keefe said in an interview.

His video includes footage from the training courses and video of him seeking clarification from census officials about the extra compensation. As with his original ACORN videos, O'Keefe concealed a small camera on his clothing and never informed people that he was filming the training session or conversations.

The video shows a regional census payroll supervisor telling O'Keefe not to worry about the extra pay.

"You did your best to bring it to our attention," the woman tells O'Keefe. "I don't think anyone's going to be questioning it, except for you, so I would just let it go."

The Census Bureau hired about 600,000 temporary workers to conduct follow up interviews and trained the workers before they began their work. In a statement, the agency said all workers are instructed to honestly submit time records.

"Workers are instructed to report hours they work, which would include their time traveling to and from training," said spokesman Stephen Buckner. "This is no different than the training session that Mr. O’Keefe attended in New Jersey, and during his previous employment with the Census Bureau last year. In his video, Mr. O’Keefe, an admitted criminal, does not disclose that he previously worked for the Census Bureau for nearly two months in 2009 without incident, allegation or complaint.

"That employment with us was well before his indictment and prior to his conviction of a federal crime last week. The Census Bureau obviously does not condone any falsifying of or tampering with time sheets by its employees. We are investigating the allegations in Mr. O’Keefe’s selectively edited video and will take appropriate administrative action with staff as warranted. ”

A Census Bureau official also noted that O'Keefe's decision to videotape the training sessions appears to violate Commerce Department policies against recording conversations.

O'Keefe confirmed that he worked for the agency last summer for about a month compiling addresses as part of 2010 Census preparations. He was hired again this April and quit after two days of training before receiving further instructions in order to avoid any privacy concerns, he said in an interview.

O'Keefe filmed his experiences in part because he's worried that most, if not all of the temporary workers have been overpaid.

"The idea that there are 600,000 employees and each of them is paid for an extra four hours of work, that's $48 million in waste," he said.

"The Census is in the constitution," O'Keefe said later. "It's an important service, and we'd heard from a lot of sources that there was waste and fraud and abuse and corruption. We wanted to investigate it first hand."

BigGovernment.com will post another video on Wednesday that raises questions about the Census Bureau's hiring practices, O'Keefe said.

"There's a lot more fraud and corruption and waste here," he promised.

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By Ed O'Keefe  | June 1, 2010; 1:20 PM ET
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Wasn't it already pointed out that he'd edited those ACORN videos? And now he's a convicted criminal? Why are we paying attention to him, just because he's got a digital camera and some video editing software?

Posted by: dkp01 | June 1, 2010 1:40 PM | Report abuse

They (messed) up - they hired you? Do I state this correctly?

Posted by: mattintx | June 1, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

I think the Census spokesperson's response is exactly right. When videotaping - especially a known liar and selective editor - we need to see the whole videotape with numbers showing when the video began and ended. Hopefully, the public and press will not give him a free pass this time.

Posted by: rlj1 | June 1, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

I wish Alan Funt was alive to kick this loser's azz.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 1, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Does he know if anyone (including himself) went back and did the right thing and TOLD THEIR SUPERVISOR they were overpaid.
I have done that and as an honest person I would do that each and every time I was overpaid.

You see--- if you are a dishones person, such as this fool proves himself to be, I doubt he did any due diligence and asked such questions.

i will wait until I see all the UNEDITED tapes - especially the one where he got fired by the Census Bureau for slacking off and breaking policy --but he will never release those tapes.

Posted by: racerdoc | June 1, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't this kid in jail ?

Posted by: dcperspective | June 1, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

SHOCKING! OUTRAGEOUS!

Oops, I meant to yawn.

Posted by: wideblacksky | June 1, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

bergen county is the states(new jersey) biggest democratic stronholds what did you expect.the census is the biggest cash cow out there today.every legal citizen in this country is given a social security# in the country.WHY can`t they you use the social security and the internal revenue for a correct count.the answer is simple the more people you register(including the illegals)the more money the state gets for the welfare system.of course this is at the taxpayer expence.if you do not believe me ask lautenburg and menendez,see if you get an answer!!!

Posted by: SISSD1 | June 1, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

I think the census bureau needs to look at his job application and see if he misrepresented anything on that. He has a real problem with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Posted by: margaretmeyers | June 1, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

This O'Keefe kid kind of sounds like a Moron. I think he ripped off the government by doing training for a job he had no intention of doing (it's called fraud).

Posted by: BlakeVa | June 1, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm thrilled that the Post is giving this 'guerilla' "journalist" access to its soapbox. That way, a generation of otherwise-unemployable dillweed brats can expect their pranks---ooops,agendae-- to be broadcast the world over.
Any news today?

Posted by: redlineblue | June 1, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Ed, with all due respect, can you please try and do a little rudimentary research before you discuss these things?

This criminal did not "expose Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now housing counselors, who appeared to encourage him to conceal a purported illegal prostitution business in order to get housing help."

He selectively edited the tape. He spliced footage of himself dressed like a pimp in afterwards, in a dishonest and despicable attempt at playing to racial stereotypes. He created a fake controversy over nothing. These facts have been well-documented in other media sources (though not in the Post, interestingly enough).

The most comprehensive account is here: http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/04/07/rachel_maddow_acorn_tapes.

Now it appears as though O'Keefe is trying to do the same thing with the census.

Rather than reporting these things in a "he said, she said" manner, next time can you please try and assess the truth about this person before you blithely pass on his latest "allegation" as though he has a track record of being a remotely reputable individual?

Posted by: MrT321 | June 1, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Why is it that once a Republican gets a criminal record they think they have made it to the big time? This little twerp has NO credibility, just like the rest of the Republican Party. But now... He can make a baseless claim and get immediate apperences on Fox News (ooops I mean Opinion masquerading as news) Channel to spout his baseless views.

Just another Republican Criminal Hero.

Posted by: thecontributist | June 1, 2010 2:06 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry - is it activist or A-HOLE O'Keefe? If we are real lucky. someday he will be filming in a men's prison exposing the truth of how to toss a salad.

Posted by: LABC | June 1, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

S1SSD1 - If you cannot even get basic facts correct, it is obvious you do not know of what you speak. Bergen County is no where close to being the Democrats biggest stronghold in New Jersey. Look at Hudson, Mercer, and Essex counties. It shoudl come as not suprise that a supporter of O'Keefe would care nothing of facts. Facts are just relative and real research is a suggestion. Just make stuff up and hope fools believe it. That's conservative journalism and ideology for you.

Posted by: egalite522 | June 1, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Acorn yeah they deserved it now he is stretching it with the census.

He want a job and i hope no one gives him squat.

Posted by: PennyWisetheClown | June 1, 2010 2:22 PM | Report abuse

I worked as an enumerator with the census bureau and my training classes the first two days went past the allotted time. Also, as an enumerator you are paid for mileage and you are on the job when you are driving to and from a training site (or any other location). An enumerator's "office" is considered their home.

Posted by: rousehouse | June 1, 2010 2:27 PM | Report abuse

What this fraudster and poor excuse for a human being isn't telling you is that not all census employees make $18.25. Right off the bat, I knew not to take this clown seriously. The pay scale depends on geography and if you are a NRFU clerk, as opposed to an enumerator, you make $13.50/hour (at least in the 7 county region encompassing PW through Warren counties and down to the Rappahannock).

This despicable human being who apparently hasn't worked an honest day in his day is not aware of the fact that some Census offices work 24/7, with the vast majority not making $18/hour at least in our area, to fulfill a Constitutional mandate. As with every human activity, there's bound to be some discrepancies but I'm much more comfortable placing my faith on the honesty of fellow Census workers than scum like O'Keefe.

The fact of the matter is much of the Census work at this point focuses on quality assurance and quality control rather than the mere numbers. My guess is that the complexity of the process was beyond the understanding of this idiot, or perhaps, he was just trying to prove a point and all the facts in the world wouldn't have made a difference if it didn't neatly fit in his world vision.

Posted by: Comrade01 | June 1, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

Before anyone makes some kinds of judgment, I would like to see the whole unedited tape out in the open. If he refused to do that, then it would be based on selective editing to paint something bad going on when it is not just like he did with the ACORN video. Breitbart is just another lackey

As the article states he's worried that most, if not all, appears to be overpaid then he extrapolate by adding all 600,000 temporary to the equation. Until he gets his facts straight, it is nothing more than cherry picking numbers in order to make it sound like waste.

For the record, on occasions I've been overpaid from private sector employers for time I did not work even though I recorded my hours correctly and what he got is similar to what I got and nothing more.

Posted by: beeker25 | June 1, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

The horror. Wait until he hears how my federally-employed mailman sometimes cuts across the lawn instead of walking straight along the sidewalk.

Posted by: motogp46 | June 1, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Why isn't this kid in jail ?

Posted by: dcperspective | June 1, 2010 1:51 PM
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The judge released him to his parent's custody and was required to stay at Mom and Dad's until the trial or when the trial is over.
Obviously they couldn't lock the door of his bedroom.

Posted by: beeker25 | June 1, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

o'keefe and his boyfriend andrew breitbart trying to stir something up again.

Posted by: calif-joe | June 1, 2010 2:49 PM | Report abuse

.
Why is any credible news source giving ANY attention to this media w*ore? He's one step away from a prison cell.

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Posted by: marytru | June 1, 2010 2:53 PM | Report abuse

It is a true indictment of conservatives' moral and intellectual bankruptcy that they depend on dishonest creeps like O'Keefe. What a shame he has learned nothing from his fraud and arrogance.

Posted by: DCSteve1 | June 1, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

The usual conservative claptrap. Census fraud, voter fraud, registration fraud, blah blah blah. This is the classic tactic from long ago....lie, attack, lie some more, etc. Consevatives are so tiresome. What happened in your lives to make you such miserable human beings?

Posted by: jckdoors | June 1, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

"every legal citizen in this country is given a social security# in the country.WHY can`t they you use the social security and the internal revenue for a correct count.the answer is simple the more people you register(including the illegals)the more money the state gets for the welfare system.of course this is at the taxpayer expence.if you do not believe me ask lautenburg and menendez,see if you get an answer!!!

Posted by: SISSD1 | June 1, 2010 1:52 PM

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The answer is because (1) people don't update their social security records, (2) many people don't have social security numbers, and (3) the Census is supposed to count the number of PEOPLE in the United States.

Posted by: bachmaij | June 1, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I was just going to say that he is not exactly a credible source of information. I believe he pled guilty to a federal crime.? What an upstanding member of the conservative right.

Posted by: am1968 | June 1, 2010 3:06 PM | Report abuse

James "Big Pimpin'" Okeefe is slinging his magic wand around again, spewing lies, deceit and procuring prostitutes for Republican politicians. Louisiana Senator David Vitter is one of his favorite customer as well as the crooked, deviant, perverted Republican politicians who resides as the "C" street Mission. Magic wand Okeefe has messed up big time. He has placed himself in a position so that the Federal Government can use its enormous grapefruits to teabag his arse.

Posted by: ODDOWL | June 1, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

We know that O'Keefe edited his famed ACORN videos - proven by Calif. Attorney General. And now he wants us to believe his accusations on other vides?
ROFLMAO

O'Keefe is a spoiled rich kid who needs a lot of attention.

Posted by: angie12106 | June 1, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

O'Keefe must be talking about those fake right wing census forms the Repukes tried to illegally pass off.

Posted by: cholly85241 | June 1, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Oh Ed. After a report like that - "exposed Acorn", ha! - I am not surprised you had to put in that " I am not related to this O'Keefe" line.

Are you sure you are not??

Posted by: Pillai | June 1, 2010 3:23 PM | Report abuse

There's waste and fraud in the government? SHOCKING!!! I Would have never known!! What a revelation of being paid and extra $100 for not working for the Census. It's just shocking! (please read with sarcasm)

Posted by: Scott76 | June 1, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

It's a good idea to ferret out waste and fraud, but when you do it by illegal means (taping conversations w/out permission), especially after being told it is illegal, he James O'Keefe should have the opportunity to check for waste and fraud in prison.

Posted by: davidporter | June 1, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

Why does the Washingto Post continue to give this kid such promenience,,, he has already been convicted of trespassing under false pretense,, he has already been shown to edit the acorn tapes to create a false impression and he is probably doing it again, to further the attention he is getting,,

he is now a criminal, who has stated he would break the law again, if given the chance,,

so why are we still be subjected to his machinations

and why is the Washington Post giving him just air play

Posted by: EastCoastnLA | June 1, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Maybe this moron can get a job at McDonalds and videotape someone selling an Egg McMuffin at 10:31 a.m.

Posted by: spidey103 | June 1, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Everyone has summed up nicely what a ridiculous waste of space this person is, so I'll just say to SISSD1: We can't use SS numbers for the reasons bach stated, but also because there are US citizens with SS #s who are living abroad. These people should not be counted in the 2010 Census because they don't live here, so using SS #s won't work. There is no possible way we could track who lives where based on that info.

Posted by: laney619 | June 1, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

No doubt O"Keefe, there is fraud going on by the Census managed by the Marxist in the White House, but also lots of crimes being committed by the ACORN census workers, I wouldn't let them in house!

Posted by: theaz | June 1, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Why in the world would anyone even bother to give this guy a forum to spew his hate and lies. He is a proven, admitted criminal. What he did to Acorn cannot be justified in any way. He has no credibility whatsoever and should not be given any media attention at all.

Posted by: sweetnonnie | June 1, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Two questions: did he cash his paycheck (why bother when you're funded by conservative buffoon, Breitbart?) and did he wear his pimp outfit? O'Keefe's problem is he's such a vindictive, low brow loser that he couldn't possibly get a job any place that actually bears investigation, so he has to attack low paid, often temporary workers

Posted by: Koko3 | June 1, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Quelle Horreur! Those Nazis in the White House are attempting to pervert the Census into electing more Democrats. What ever will become of us?

Posted by: BlueTwo1 | June 1, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

O'Keefe perhaps gets paid a few dollars extra by some well-meaning census worker and this is #2 on the Post's afternoon news alert? This is some kind of joke, right? Oil spills, the flotilla assault, Europe's ongoing financial problems, our ongoing financial problems, and all the rest, and this makes it almost to the top of what's most pressing? Please tell me this is WaPo's idea of a joke. I'd hate to think it's your idea of journalism.

Posted by: nc1123 | June 1, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

This is the best he could do? This is total BFD.

Posted by: pjkiger1 | June 1, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Why is he back in the news? Shouldn't he be in prison and locked up for criminal activity? He's right about the fraud... it's him!

Posted by: tfburke19 | June 1, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Look, some people have connections, wealth, nepotism and elite schools in their favor.

All I've got is the U.S. Gov't to milk...a little...sometimes...

I think that's plenty fair.

8-)

Posted by: tony_in_Durham_NC | June 1, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

BFD. The dude has documented nearly $50 worth of federal waste. So what? By putting this non-news event on the front page, the Post is propagating the myth that we'll be able to get a handle on the federal deficit by merely eliminating waste. Waste is the smallest part of the deficit.

Posted by: xen_22 | June 1, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Yawn.

Can we get the latest Justin Beber news, pluweeze????

Posted by: bs2004 | June 1, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Another Right Wing Weapon of Mass Distraction.

The only reason the kid isn't in jail is 'cause his daddy's a rich lawyer.

Posted by: thebobbob | June 1, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

And this coming from a Pimp and a Video Hustler who has been caught several times running his own criminal activities.

Posted by: lcarter0311 | June 1, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Somebody is in need of a big wedgie...

Posted by: stevebva | June 1, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Keep up the good work James. Alinsky in reverse........excellent move!

Posted by: wxyz6200 | June 1, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

This guy is nothing but a political hack. He is no journalist and should not even be givne the time of day after he did a hatchet job on his ACORN story which was only half true- if that much truth can be credited to him. But watch Faux News run with this. With all the crap happening in the world this is not news.

Posted by: Brainny | June 1, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

The only question I have regarding this is why any government office would knowingly hire a criminal...whether alleged or convicted. Not sure when this was videotaped or the timeline of events of this employment, but if he submitted false paperwork to get employed, he too should be held accountable. Why or why didn't the Post determine that first. He's not the most reliable person.

Posted by: ewjazzed | June 1, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

This guy's a creepazoid and a paid GOP operative. His 15 minutes are up.

Posted by: edfunk1 | June 1, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

It is sad that someone like this still gets media attention

His whole ACORN story still has yet to ever actually be understood by the right-wing as his video was edited terribly to make it seem like he was dressed as a pimp, etc....which is why people got so outraged at first

Now he was caught committing a damn felony and is proud of it?

Are right-wingers going to be as supportive if left-wing fans start breaking into the offices of conservatives?

It's a joke....and probably the reason the right-wing continues to be on the outside-looking-in of every government branch these days

Posted by: Bious | June 1, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Oh for God's sake. For how long has his 15 minutes been up? The Pentagon wastes more than that in one day on toilet paper. Having worked a while for what we called the Senseless Bureau, I'd say there's more substantial to complain about from both a "liberal" and a "conservative" perspective than what we're hearing from this (convicted) punk. "Liberal," in that at least where I worked, South Bend Indiana, the staff were treated like nimcompoops, and tended to act in accordance with expectation. Too much stick, too little carrot. From a "conservative" perspective, it was made clear to us that religious considerations notwithstanding, we were expected to work on Sunday (freedom of religion, anyone?), and were punished by having hours cut if we stood our ground.

Posted by: pwynn | June 1, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Activist? Didn't you mean to say punk-ass delinquent?

Posted by: lithium452 | June 1, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

You could visit any prison in the US, and get any of those criminals to do what this Keefe guy did. There is a reason they are considered criminals and lack of integrity is just one reason.

Posted by: tmd678 | June 1, 2010 4:28 PM | Report abuse

At this point, the only thing I would like to tell James O'Keefe is to find a real job. Instead of being some moral crusader he's claiming to be with his actions and comments, O'Keefe seems to be someone who is so unhappy with himself that he needs to bring everyone down with him at the expense of taxpayer dollars.

Posted by: cags777 | June 1, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Oh dear. Once again J. O'Keefe has exposed waste, fraud and corruption in one of the proggies sacred cows and their pink panties are, once again, in a bunch.

Life is good...

Posted by: attackthemessenger | June 1, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

O'Keefe again displays the maturity and level of understanding of a 10-year old. I am an enumerator, and, during training, everyone submitted the same hours purely for consistency's sake, since time is counted from door-to-door and people obviously live different distances from the training center. We were also expected to review training materials on our own, but I guess the "honor system" is a foreign concept to a person with no honor. Once on our own in the field, our hours, mileage, and productivity is monitored as closely as is reasonably possible. Plenty of folks work more hours than they put in because they are dedicated to doing a good job even though there's a strict "no overtime" policy.

Posted by: ping5 | June 1, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

if anyone is an expect on fraud, that's O'Keefe! his video's were frauds, and why doesnt this article point that out?

That boy belongs in prison.

Posted by: newagent99 | June 1, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

O'Keefe makes national socialism as fun as beating up peace activists in '67. Gawd Bless this bignosed convicted criminal—he makes us tinydick white boys want to kill people!

Posted by: lichtme | June 1, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

J. O'Keefe pokes the proggie weasels with a stick...again. They react as expected.

BTW, how's Obama's Bay of Rigs working out for you guys?

Posted by: attackthemessenger | June 1, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Well, if little O'Keefes numbers are right "re the 48 million, then that would add up to a whopping .6% (less than 1%) waste of the total 7 billion dollar census budget.

Fortune 500 companies wish they could zero down their labor costs to less than 1% of waste.

And then again, why we are supposed to believe anything that comes out of this proven liars/criminals mouth is beyond me.

Posted by: Nosh1 | June 1, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I never really knew there were so many stupid, arrogant, misinformed, totally ignorant liberal readers of the Post
as represented by the blogs herein. As
far as Acorn is concerned, they were caught doing the illegalities. Okeefe
may have used questionable tactics, but
he got the truth on them. Suppose he
had used the same tactics and solved a
murder case, would that be a reason to
throw out the evidence? Be real. Grow up!
Stop feeling sorry for Acorn, they showed
what they stood for, are now out of business and trying to regroup under
different names.

Posted by: depoulins | June 1, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like he was expected to work for 19.5 hours but only worked 16 hours. It's not the census bureau's fault for over paying him, it's his fault for not doing the work.

Posted by: person2 | June 1, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

@depoulins,

You really that blind? O'Keefes tactits weren't the problem. It was that he FLAT OUT LIED" about what his investigation re Acorn turned up, and then he selectively edited the tapes to fit his story.

He of course, won't realease his unedited tapes because, well he knows he is a putz.

The whole "pimp and hoe" routine. Completely 100% false. Yet we see you still bought it.

Posted by: Nosh1 | June 1, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Hey depoulins,

Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Posted by: MrT321 | June 1, 2010 5:10 PM | Report abuse

The waste is the pay this writer received for submitting this trash for print. There are more working class and poor people in the United States than there are upper class. O'Keefe lies destoryed jobs, housing, education and a means for people to receive information and determine who will be our elected officials. As American citizens they have that right.

Census workers are not paid enough money to gather the information for the records. If you don't like the system than move to another country but don't stop other people from proforming there civil duty.

Posted by: sun52shine | June 1, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Sounds more like O'Keefe has defrauded the federal government. The time sheet should reflect the the hours that O'Keefe stated he worked. If O'Keefe lied about his hours, they're going to need to rethink his probationary sentence in Louisiana.

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Really? Who gives a darn what this twit does or says? Not I.

Posted by: MadamDeb | June 1, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

Census is a jobs program. If he was kept off the unemployment count, isn't it worth it?

Posted by: seraphina21 | June 1, 2010 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Pretty amazing that you anti-O"keefe dolt's are calling him all kinds of names and crying about supposed edited tapes when he may have just saved our country $48 million. Oh wait, you are probably democrats and are part of the 48% that dont pay ANY taxes. The "stimulus" was a $862B give away by the nations biggest liar at 1600 Penn ave to his cronies. Crickets.

Posted by: j751 | June 1, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

j751, you hear crickets because no one understands what you are talking about. As for O'Keefe, his videos were clearly documented and exposed as fraud. Any other person would have gotten some jail time for his attempted taping of a sitting Senator's phone lines but since he has right wing connections, he gets to go stay with his parents as punishment. Yet, the guy who hacked Sarah Palin's emails could get 20 years.

O'Keefe hasn't uncovered any news and despite what j751 thinks, he isn't saving the government any money. He's just a punk whose 15 minutes are up and he doesn't know what to do next. He will soon go the way of Joe the Plumber. Or hopefully one of his stunts will land him where he belongs, in a real jail.

Posted by: wmwilliams14 | June 1, 2010 5:32 PM | Report abuse

It sounds like O'Keefe may have violated fraud statutes in two areas.

Not only did he lie about his hours; he was effectively "double-dipping" -- doing work for another employer while on the clock with the Census.

Presumably Mommy, Daddy, and his Sugar Daddies will find a way to bail this clown out yet again.

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

"Fraud" is that guy's middle name.

Posted by: bcamarda2 | June 1, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

For those who claim that O'Keefe's ACORN investigations were somehow "fraudulent", I have a few questions:
1. If ACORN was innocent, why did they go bankrupt?
2. Why have they tried to re-organize under new names?
3. Why did ACORN fire some of their "innocen"t staffers?
4. Why did the Census Bureau stop using ACORN for Census work?
5. Why are proggies so hate-filled?

Posted by: attackthemessenger | June 1, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

O'Keefe is a hero for showing how corrupt the Obamie administration and you facist liberals really are.

Posted by: no2socialism | June 1, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

So activists who get arrested and convicted (say, of trespassing) during the course of their activities shall now be referred to in the Post as criminals. And if they pleaded guilty, we'll call them admitted criminals. ALL of them. Not just conservative ones. Deal.

Posted by: Compared2What | June 1, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

O'Keefe is not a criminal anymore than B J Clinton. It was a misdemeanor! MISDEMEANOR. Its not like PERJURY, right? Is id dat hard to beleeve dat people could cheat from gumbinmint? Gimme, its my rite! Gimme. Free did and dat.

Posted by: DanDan2010 | June 1, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

attackthemessenger: great post. Mind if I repeat?

For those who claim that O'Keefe's ACORN investigations were somehow "fraudulent", I have a few questions:
1. If ACORN was innocent, why did they go bankrupt?
2. Why have they tried to re-organize under new names?
3. Why did ACORN fire some of their "innocen"t staffers?
4. Why did the Census Bureau stop using ACORN for Census work?
5. Why are proggies so hate-filled?

Posted by: no2socialism | June 1, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I'm honored no2socialism!

The best part of the whole article:
"BigGovernment.com will post another video on Wednesday that raises questions about the Census Bureau's hiring practices, O'Keefe said.

"There's a lot more fraud and corruption and waste here," he promised."

Posted by: attackthemessenger | June 1, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Now up at HotAir -

New James O’Keefe video: Exposing pay fraud among census workers

Posted by: no2socialism | June 1, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

I worked with the census this time around and although I never personally seen fraud, I've heard rumors with other groups.

I also find it funny reading the peanut gallery personally attacking O'Keefe. If the same person infiltrated a Tea Party training session he would be hailed as the next Mike Wallace or Edward R. Murrow.

Posted by: bbface21 | June 1, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

no2socialism,

1. "If ACORN was innocent, why did they go bankrupt?"

Because fraudulent charges aren't always rebutted in sufficient time to reverse the damage. In this case the heavily edited Breitbart tapes were in heavy rotation via wingnut news outlets for the span of several weeks. It wasn't until months after the media frenzy that local prosecutors completed their investigations and highlighted the ways that Breitbart manipulated the tapes. By that point private donors had pulled funding, and the organization had lost federal funding on the basis of an unconstitutional statute enacted by the GOP and some Dems (a law that was later thrown out on appeal as unconstitutional). Regardless, at that point the damage was done.

2. "Why have they tried to re-organize under new names?"

It sounds like they're re-organizing not under only different names, but under a different organizational structure (e.g. an operation in NYC may be able to support itself, but it can't support operations in small cities).

3. "Why did ACORN fire some of their 'innocent' staffers?"

PR damage control. The organization was blind-sided by the charges and the right-wing frenzy. They should have pressed harder to get the full tapes released. ACORN lost in part too due to the fact that they don't have a media empire like the NewsCorp in their back pocket. In order to have gotten their version of events out they probably would have needed something along the lines of a $100 million for PR, and another $100 mill. in order to litigate the charges. The non-profit's total annual budget was less than $50 mill -- not exactly a great position to fight a PR war.

4. "Why did the Census Bureau stop using ACORN for Census work?"

The fact that ACORN ceased to exist probably was one factor. I'm not really sure how the Census would have contracted this work to an outside vendor -- my sense is that they might have worked with ACORN as a way to publicize the Census and as a way to advertise job openings.

5. "Why are proggies so hate-filled?"

My sense is that you can find an answer to that question if you take a look in the mirror.

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Is Stephen Buckner implying that Uncle Sam pays all its hourly employees to commute to work? Such a deal!

Posted by: smokinchgo | June 1, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

1. "If ACORN was innocent, why did they go bankrupt?"

Because fraudulent charges aren't always rebutted in sufficient time to reverse the damage. In this case the heavily edited Breitbart tapes were in heavy rotation via wingnut news outlets for the span of several weeks.

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I find it hard to believe that fancy editing and a vendetta brought down ACORN for two reasons: First, if the organization was on the level there wouldn't be any video for O'Keefe to edit; The conversation most everywhere would be something like:

O'Keefe: We have these girls...
ACORN Worker: Get out!

Second, If ACORN had such a stellar reputation and there were workers giving advice on sex trafficking and money laundering, there would be more supporters that would be willing to stand behind them and believe that this was an anomaly and not the norm.

Posted by: bbface21 | June 1, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

For those complaining that the ACORN videos were edited, of course they were edited to show the most relevant parts. He posted up the full audio and transcripts at biggovernment.com: http://biggovernment.com/acorn/

They clearly show that she posed as a pimp, he was planning to use the revenues for a congressional run, they were planning to bring in underage girls from El Salvador to perform tricks, and the ACORN employees went along with it and tried to help them out. It would take a lot of twisting, confirmation bias, and/or dishonesty to conclude otherwise.

Incidentally, while he did cross the line in Louisiana, he never tampered with the phones, attempted to do so, or had any intention of doing so. The government ended up admitting it. http://biggovernment.com/patterico/2010/05/28/a-picture-worth-a-thousand-words-screenshots-of-the-governments-admission-that-james-okeefe-did-not-attempt-to-tamper-with-landrieus-phones/

Posted by: NukeRidingCowboy | June 1, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

JPRS
The full, unedited tapes were released. I watched them. They showed no change to the narrative. These people are frauds.
The left has the majority of the media in their laps. The right has only one-Fox News. Fox is consistently rated as being more unbiased and fair than the rest of the MSM.

Posted by: no2socialism | June 1, 2010 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Correction: She posed as a prostitute, not a pimp.

Posted by: NukeRidingCowboy | June 1, 2010 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Fox is consistently rated as being more unbiased and fair than the rest of the MSM.

And their consistent #1 rating says it better than I can.

Posted by: no2socialism | June 1, 2010 6:28 PM | Report abuse

bbface21,

Outside of the wingnut universe who had heard about ACORN before 2008-09? It's not exactly a brand like GE.

In the minds of most people ACORN meant nothing -- aside from the wingnuts who viewed the org as the nexus of an Obama-Global Jihadist conspiracy -- so it was easy to 'brand' them from the outside with whatever label anyone with some money and friends in the media echo chamber wanted to apply.

Prosecutors in Brooklyn and California have both found that the tapes were "heavily edited". Brietbart also did not release tapes of offices such as the one in Philly, which not only refused to play along with the stunt, but referred the incident to the police. You'll note that none of the press coverage at the time highlighted this fact.

"First, if the organization was on the level there wouldn't be any video for O'Keefe to edit"

I's very easy to take pretty innocuous footage and frame it however you want in the editing bay.

(e.g. music, exterior shots in costume. If this was a journalistic exercise, it probably would have made sense to go back and interview subjects too. e.g. did they honestly think that the conservative cons were "Pimp" and "Ho" or were they simply humoring a bunch of over-privileged white kids playing the role of "Pimp" and "Ho" for an equal phony "expose"?)

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 6:38 PM | Report abuse

JPRS said:
5. "Why are proggies so hate-filled?"

My sense is that you can find an answer to that question if you take a look in the mirror."

I looked. I saw me. I saw me wondering why proggies are so hate-filled. I realized that it's probably because they see the utter failure of their quasi-religious belief system everywhere they look, and have no hope. Filled with despair, they cannot help but hate those who shine a light into their darkness.

At least, that's what I think. Why do _you_ think proggies are so hate-filled?

Posted by: attackthemessenger | June 1, 2010 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of your opinions of O'Keefe, is there any doubt that there is fraud and unnecessary expenditures in this census -- to pad the employment (although temporary) numbers? In 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000, the short form census arrived in the US mail. This year, a census worker, being paid $17.00 an hour plus gas drove to the houses in my neighborhood and personally delivered the same form. Why?

Posted by: independent62417 | June 1, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Fox is consistently rated as being more unbiased and fair than the rest of the MSM.

And their consistent #1 rating says it better than I can.

Posted by: no2socialism

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Fox is consistently rated as the MOST POPULAR NEWS CHANNEL ON CABLE.

Two qualifiers,

1. Most popular.
2. On cable.

Nowhere in that formula do you find "more unbiased and fair than the rest of the MSM".

A more media saavy audience would probably recognize -- "if you have to tell me 20 times every night that you're "fair and balanced" and "You report, we decide" odds are you probably aren't".

It should be self-evident.

In terms of the way that Fox structures its "news" organization its much closer to a PR firm than a traditional news outlet with professional journalists.

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 6:46 PM | Report abuse

attack the messenger - You do realize that by acting as though progressives are either all evil beings consumed by hate, or mentally challenged idiots, you're completely stopping any kind of political discourse people could potentially have? It's sad that we have sunk so low as a nation that the two sides cannot even converse without resorting to childish name calling. I consider myself a liberal, and I'm not consumed by hate. But why would I want to have a conversation with someone like you, who would brand an entire group based on...nothing? You obviously don't want to hear any opinion that differs from yours.

Oh and I thought "hope" was something to be mocked mercilessly by conservatives? Now I'm being told I'm sad and bitter because I have none, since I'm so hate-filled. Tough to keep it all straight!

Posted by: laney619 | June 1, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of your opinions of O'Keefe, is there any doubt that there is fraud and unnecessary expenditures in this census -- to pad the employment (although temporary) numbers? In 1970, 1980, 1990, 2000, the short form census arrived in the US mail. This year, a census worker, being paid $17.00 an hour plus gas drove to the houses in my neighborhood and personally delivered the same form. Why?

Posted by: independent62417

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Because a lot of people didn't return their census forms on time.

In the big scheme of things the program is a drop in the ocean (and a Constitutional requirement).

If people want to save money they should be focusing on citizens who fail to return their census forms on time -- not on the people who are tasked with collecting information after the fact.

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse


JPRS
The full, unedited tapes were released. I watched them. They showed no change to the narrative. These people are frauds.
The left has the majority of the media in their laps. The right has only one-Fox News. Fox is consistently rated as being more unbiased and fair than the rest of the MSM.

Posted by: no2socialism

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When?

At last check about a month or so ago, O'Keefe's Pimp, Andrew Brietbart, had not released the full unedited tapes of all of the offices.

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Yes! Thank you, JPRS! If you want to blame someone, blame the people who thought that throwing out their Census form was so hilarious, and sticking it to the man. If they had mailed it back on time, no Census worker would have to go to their house. If that same person would also answer the door to said Census taker the first time, then they would not have to return 5-6 more times, desperately trying to get the information.

Posted by: laney619 | June 1, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh, you mean the 'traditional news outlets with professional journalists' that refused to cover the ACORN story? If they were professional they would cover such an explosive story as soon as it happenned. If only for sensationalism - dirty laundry sells. But thay all choose to ignore one of the biggest stings of the year because it didn't fit their left wing agenda. Let's see...how many important stories didn't the 'professional journalists' in the MSM cover recently?

Posted by: no2socialism | June 1, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

no2socialism - You're serious about this? The story was all over all the major news outlets for weeks afterward, including the Washington Post. Just because Hannity and Limbaugh tell you something's not being covered does not make it true.

Posted by: laney619 | June 1, 2010 7:01 PM | Report abuse

laney619 - Where to begin?

A casual review of the posts here by those who attack O'Keefe and his work might, just might, lead one to believe that political discourse with those love-filled proggies is not a realistic hope. If you haven't read the posts above yours I could understand your concerns, and possibly even forgive you for failing to include them as examples of childish name-calling.

But you didn't. As a result, I am deeply saddened, concerned, and reduced to concluding that you didn't mean a thing you said...

Posted by: attackthemessenger | June 1, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I am currently working as a census enumerator. The only problem I have with it is that it was misrepresented. They promised 6 full days of training and then 20 to 40 hours a week for 6 to 8 weeks. We got perhaps 3 and a half days of training. Getting hours has been quite difficult - I've gotten 30 hours (training), 26 hours, 17 hours, 18 hours, and 26 hours for the 5 weeks I've worked thus far. This very well may be my last week and I will be lucky to get 20 hours this week. I've been unemployed for more than a year and was really looking forward to some nice paychecks out of it. If anything, I'm in worse shape than I was on unemployment. I am grateful for the opportunity but had hoped for so much more. As far as the actual conduct of the folks running the show go, they have been quite professional and watchful of everything that's going on. O'Keefe is a creep and full of crap, but we knew that already.

Posted by: jothomp | June 1, 2010 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Oh, you mean the 'traditional news outlets with professional journalists' that refused to cover the ACORN story? If they were professional they would cover such an explosive story as soon as it happenned. If only for sensationalism - dirty laundry sells. But thay all choose to ignore one of the biggest stings of the year because it didn't fit their left wing agenda. Let's see...how many important stories didn't the 'professional journalists' in the MSM cover recently?

Posted by: no2socialism

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It was easier for the Con outlets to run with the story solely based on the sleaze factor because they had spent the past year building a non-profit org with a $50 million in revenue into the Nexus of a global conspiracy.

They had branded ACORN in the minds of their viewers.

The professional news organizations treated ACORN pretty much like any other non-profit with less than $50 mill. that caters to low-income people (i.e. they ignored it).

In terms of the overall significance of the story, ACORN received something like $3 to $5 mill. a year in federal funding since 1994. In the context of the federal budget that is close to zilch. The Koch family which bankrolls a number of conservative causes probably got that much from the Feds in terms of favorable treatment in taxes and treatment of their business ops over the course of just a couple months in 2010.

Of course the typical Con "don't likey the context".

So of course, it was a story with tremendous national significance.

Just because some trusted authority figure said it was. It didn't matter that the trusted authority figure had no actual reporting experience.

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

bbface21,

Outside of the wingnut universe who had heard about ACORN before 2008-09? It's not exactly a brand like GE.........

Brietbart also did not release tapes of offices such as the one in Philly, which not only refused to play along with the stunt, but referred the incident to the police. You'll note that none of the press coverage at the time highlighted this fact.

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I grew up in New Orleans so I know of ACORN. They were a component of Democratic Party politics in the city.

Also what happened in Philadelphia proves my point. Why weren't these two muckrakers thrown out of every other ACORN office?

Posted by: bbface21 | June 1, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Lol - Thank you for your concern for me. If you had read the posts, you would see that I actually posted much earlier, around 3:30. I have read the posts. Way to dodge my actual comment, btw. I see a lot of people calling O'Keefe a loser, moron, etc. I don't see a lot of people making blanket statements about conservatives as a whole, but if they did then they're wrong. Is that what you want to hear?

O'Keefe is all of these things - he attempts to create controversy where there is none using heavily edited tapes and by breaking the law.

Posted by: laney619 | June 1, 2010 7:16 PM | Report abuse

I hate to point this out, but it's not muckraking if it's true.

Posted by: kevshark | June 1, 2010 7:30 PM | Report abuse

bbface21,

The same could be said of the Chamber of Commerce in DC. Conservatively it has about 100 times the resources of an ACORN (perhaps even 1,000 times by years end); it represents a fraction of the population that ACORN did at its apex; and it's almost exclusively aligned with the GOP.

It wields exponentially more influence than ACORN.

Yet you won't see Breitbart and his dandies touching that particular monster.

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

laney619 - I didn't dodge your comment. I just pointed out that you failed to include the proggie haters in your criticism (what a surprise), and are not really concerned about polite political discourse. Proggies definition of political discourse is usually "Conservatives shut up and take it, and if you criticize us, you're a hater".

Are we to assume from your comment "I see a lot of people calling O'Keefe a loser, moron, etc....O'Keefe is all of these things..." that it's ok to hate on individuals but not groups?

Posted by: attackthemessenger | June 1, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

bbface21,

The same could be said of the Chamber of Commerce in DC. Conservatively it has about 100 times the resources of an ACORN (perhaps even 1,000 times by years end); it represents a fraction of the population that ACORN did at its apex; and it's almost exclusively aligned with the GOP.

It wields exponentially more influence than ACORN.

Yet you won't see Breitbart and his dandies touching that particular monster.

Posted by: JPRS | June 1, 2010 7:31 PM

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No, Breitbart isn't interested in the Chamber of Commerce, but I bet some intrepid muckraker can get some interesting pimp-and-hooker video footage from a convention.

Posted by: bbface21 | June 1, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

A diary at DailyKos points out an edit - From that diary:

A bigger problem is that if you watch the time code on the video, almost a full minute was edited out between the time O'Keefe asked his question (3:59:04) and the time the crew leader responded (4:00:00). So when the crew leader responded saying "No, that's not a problem," he could have been responding to a different question entirely. And given O'Keefe's history of deceptive editing, the last thing he should be given now is the benefit of a doubt.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/6/1/872062/-James-OKeefe-May-Be-Heading-Back-To-Jail

Posted by: FauxReal | June 1, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

I realize that many people are willing to turn a blind eye to a crime...or a "little white lie". But how can any citizen not know about ACORN...the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee estimates that ACORN has received $53 million in federal funds since 1994. Seriously, do you not care that your tax dollars may be fraudently wasted? If ACORN is innocent as some on this post claim...why was their federal funding cut off? Why did they fire the involved employees? And if the census bureau is innocent of waste...then we can anticipate that no heads will roll...right? Wait and see...they will fire employees because they are caught.
Also, insisting that only a few were doing wrong without the knowledge of the management is like saying that the guy who tightened the pipe is the only one who is guilty for the BP oil spill in the Gulf. BP as a company is held accountable and rightfully so. The census bureau will be held accountable too, they are the responsible party for the actions of all their employees!
Mismanagement is not an excuse for crime, but mismanagement is responsible when a crime is pointed out and a manager chooses to turn the other cheek.

Posted by: Gretel2 | June 1, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Wow, O'Keefe exposed the sordid underbelly of ACORN, he got his hand slapped for trying to expose typhoid Mary. Now he exposes the massive fraud with CensusFraud 2010 and Obuma's sheep are bleating like crazy!

Posted by: JonnyBGood | June 1, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Government corruption continues. Of course the government can continue to be corrupt; it's our money, not theirsthat they are spending.

Posted by: aspencerfischer | June 1, 2010 8:08 PM | Report abuse

O Keefe continues to be a thorn in the side of Obama and his allies....keep up the good work James.....read: Plug The Damn Hole....at.....
http://cooperscopy.blogspot.com/

Posted by: ronsuev | June 1, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

James-

You're absolutely right, what these temporary workers did was wrong. Shame on them. Now, let's talk about the all the uncompensated overtime Uncle is stiffing full-time Federal workers for. Let's start with DOJ trial attorney who get paid peanuts, get induced into working gobs of overtime to keep ahead of their cases, and, in the end, just get stiffed.

What a weenie -- like the guy never got comped a couple of hours on training in the private sector -- probably with Cosmos and golf course passes to boot.

Posted by: finserra | June 1, 2010 9:35 PM | Report abuse

O'Keefe filmed his experiences in part because he's worried that most, if not all of the temporary workers have been overpaid.

"The idea that there are 600,000 employees and each of them is paid for an extra four hours of work, that's $48 million in waste," he said.

Wow, that is quite a leap in logic; because he was overpaid everyone else working for the census bureau must be overpaid also? You know that Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Beck, and Hannity will jump all over this one and try to make what occurred at a SINGLE census office a national scandal. And of course they will try to paint this incident as something that could have ONLY occurred under the Obama administration; as if falsifying time sheets never occurs during Republican administrations. For a better story, Mr. O'Keefe should attempt to hire onto Marco Rubio's staff where he could find all sorts of mishandling of records and financial documents.

Posted by: CMAN27 | June 1, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

ACORN went bankrupt and is trying to reorganize under a different business plan and name. Blackwater changed its name after losing many government contracts. Why aren't the conservatives invoking the name of Blackwater to describe a corrupt organization? Their employess have killed innocent civilians; last time I checked no employees of ACORN or the census bureau have been accused of murder.

Posted by: CMAN27 | June 1, 2010 11:01 PM | Report abuse


Most of the comments on here are misguided.

Instead of being concerned by the wasteful use of your taxdollars, the Democrats and Obama supporters are trashing the messenger, O'Keefe.

The bottom line is, whether the tape was edited or not, that those supervisors told him not to worry about the extra hours not worked on his timesheet.

Some readers have skewed priorities.

Posted by: janet8 | June 1, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

It is interesting to see all you "liberal losers" blaming the "messenger", in this case O'Keefe, for the incompetence of your "precious" federal government for it's blatent incompetence, instead of placing the blame where it rightfuly belongs, in the lap of the federal government. This is why they pull the wool over your eyes every time.

Posted by: barrysal | June 1, 2010 11:49 PM | Report abuse

This is ridiculous. You'd think that a key qualification for having a blog published by the Washington Post would be...you know, someone who reads a f&cking newspaper.

Mr. O'Keefe's conversations with ACORN have already been exposed for what they really were -- bullsh&t. And the idea that he had these conversations with ACORN while dressed as a pimp (stated in a link to this post on WP's Post Politics page) has been exposed as crap too.

So...grow up Ed...read a paper...and stop spreading crap!

Idiot.

Posted by: wkristol | June 2, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

Why is ABC giving this lying piece of crap (O'Keefe) air time?

Someone needs to call the feds in La, I think Jimmy the Wannabe Pimp just broke his probation rules.

Posted by: DrainYou | June 2, 2010 1:09 AM | Report abuse

i'm a temporary enumerator with the census bureau in san diego county. i receive only $16.50 an hour; apparently for some reason enumerators in new jersey receive more compensation than those of us out in california. at least that's the testimony of james o'keefe.

since i started the work in the last week of april, i have generally worked 7 days a week 4 to 7 hours a day. o'keefe failed to mention that the census will fire workers who put in more than 40 hours a week. a worker can claim overtime once; the he's out. no doubt this is one way that the census deals with padding hours.

additionally, the census has an expectation of the number of questionnaires an enumerator should complete an hour; i believe it's about 2 per hour.

i have dealt with some hostile people who believe that the government is prying into their personal affairs. i have managed to explain to a few dubious people why the census exists, and why they should cooperate with it. i try to respect a person's privacy, and if he declines to answer certain census questions, i honor his decision: the important information is the numbers, and i view other questions less important.

as a government worker, i always remember that i serve the people whom i am interviewing. i am proud of my work which i have done to support the united states consitution. apparently service to the people of this republic and support of the u.s. constitution are ideas which are alien to james o'keefe.

Posted by: jophibow | June 2, 2010 1:48 AM | Report abuse

Reading these comments makes clear why our government is going bankrupt; why our career politicians feel they can get away with anything; and why the SEC (which is the watchdog group who should have seen the housing bubble and the stock market crash and taken steps to avoid it) upper level management can spend 8 hours a day watching porn and not get fired for it.

The census bureau pays for travel to and from training? Do the rest of us get paid for our travel time to and from work? The census bureau pays for 70 minute lunches for the trainees? Do the rest of us get paid lunches?

You can debate the point of whether the video was "selectively edited" but if it shows trainees being paid for 70 minute lunches and the bureau admits it pays for travel time to and from training (which is a different thing then paying travel to and from home visits), why don't you people question those things? That is YOUR money paying the tab.

Same with Acorn....it does not matter if the videos were "selectively edited" (a practice journalists use all the time) if the video shows an employee of Acorn telling a Prostitute that she is a "performer" for tax and income purposes, the law was broken...no question regardless of any other part of the conversation being edited out...she said it, its against the law period. Again, the funds Acorn was using is YOUR money...not Obama's stash from undocumented workers as too many uneducated folks seem to believe.

Yes, the census is to count the people in the United States - it used to differentiate between American Citizens, Naturalized Citizens, Immigrants etc...now it leaves that out for the most part. The census is, once again, a way for the Government to use YOUR funds....you should be concerned about how those funds are being used rather than tearing down a kid who's trying to expose fraud and waste of......let's say it one more time...YOUR money.

Posted by: LMW6 | June 2, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

He announces another federal crime a week after getting probation for the last one? Why didn't he just walk up to the bench and stick his middle finger right up the judge's nose? Is he *that* eager to do an inside expose of the federal prison system?

Posted by: smbrinich | June 2, 2010 9:29 AM | Report abuse

WOW, what a venomous bunch! The guy is admitting that they OVERPAID him for work that wasn't done yet some how the Census Bureau is the victim! Sound bite the tapes all you want but the proof is in the pudding! I sure as heck trust him over any of you posting that say it is OK and that he is making this up.

There is always corruption somewhere but that doesn't make it ok. The reason it happens is because of people that type on this very board believe it doesn't happen! It may not be on every level at the Census Bureau but it is certainly there. Just because his story is the only one to hit this suface doesn't mean there isn't an abundant amount out there. Obviously, nobody reads outside the Post so really you all don't have a clue as to how many stories are out there about this! I know, I know...ignorance is bliss - guess that is why you all seem SO happy!

Posted by: sgtkjt | June 2, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

I love the "selective editing" complaints.

Let's fact the facts. The census bureaucrats don't care about overpaying because they're spending "other people's money". If 600K employees are all charging just one hour they didn't actually work, at an average of $15.00 per hour, it equals 9 million taxpayer dollars.

You can dance all you want but the truth is tens of millions of dollars are being paid for work that is not being done with the full approval of census department bureaucrats.

When taxpayers are being cheated or laws are being broken, no amount of crying and whining about "selective editing" can justify those actions.

Posted by: wave41 | June 2, 2010 11:50 AM | Report abuse

This is a sad story in a couple of aspects. First, the Census Bureau seems to be beyond lax in its accounting processes in a year in which money is scarce everywhere. Can there really be any excuse for this? Also, how does someone manage to get paid before completing all the training for a job? Wouldn't it be better to have census workers sign an agreement which stipulates that no one is paid without completing the training?
On the other side, I understand a lot of the comments against this guy. He bit the hand that fed him, and that has never made anyone popular in government hiring circles. Loyalty does count for something. O'Keefe now comes across like some grandstanding fool, ready to cross anyone who gives him a job. Or maybe he already has a job, which involves secret filming that a lot of jurisdictions make a criminal offense. Otherwise, why quit an §18.25/hour job in the middle of a depression after just three days? He could have done this anonymously, and saved a lot of people some face who tried to help him, and still done the right thing. Now, one can honestly say that he uses his employers for his own ends. He'd have trouble getting a day laborer's job nearly anywhere with such a background.

Posted by: bong_jamesbong2001 | June 2, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Why would 99% of the responses on this story be left-sided? Very odd. Why wouldn't normal, honest people (apparently NOT those who subscribe to the Washington Post) be glad or happy or even a bit elated that this young man pointed this out to the general public? It's as though you WANT people taking money from your pockets who don't deserve it or who don't honestly earn it. If it's not stealing, what is it?

Posted by: Tlc289 | June 2, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

If Americans took the time to complete a form that is in their own best interest, then follow-up workers would not be needed. In 2020 I suggest we send the forms in a McDonalds envelop with a coupon for free fries and a coke. You will get an instant 1000% savings on employing census workers and you subsidize private industry. Now that is capitalism at work.

Posted by: kjeter | June 2, 2010 3:07 PM | Report abuse

what census form did lwm6 fill out? my own and others that i have seen did not ask whether individuals were naturally born citizens, naturalized citizens, or immigrants--either legally or illegally prsent in the united states.

no wonder internet rumors plague our intelecctual and political discourse now.

Posted by: jophibow | June 2, 2010 7:00 PM | Report abuse

Is there any surprise that there is blatant corruption in the Census Bureau administered by the Obama administration, the most corrupt since FDR? How can anyone have faith in the numbers from an administration that claimed thousands of jobs "created or saved" in scores of districts that don't even exist?

Posted by: samadams25 | June 2, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

What a tool. This guy is such an uber-dork. Any desperate measure to prolong his 15 minutes of fame.

Posted by: shawncrisp2 | June 3, 2010 6:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm a little stunned at the number of people who excuse or distract from (what appears to be) fraudulent behavior in the U.S. government.

We should weigh all information with a degree of skepticism, but it seems clear that several government employees are sanctioning the falsification of a time sheet. This behavior is criminal, plain and simple.

O'Keefe clearly chooses his subjects based on a political agenda. To those who would consider themselves his political "opposition", I would ask: How would you react if an undercover video showed an NRA employee providing instructions on how to violate federal firearms laws? What if we had video exposing corruption in military contracts, or in the Treasury department during the banking bailout?

Consider the source by all means, but don't categorically dismiss the content based on a black and white political world view.

Posted by: miltonc4l | June 4, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

I'm a little stunned at the number of people who excuse or distract from (what appears to be) fraudulent behavior in the U.S. government.

We should weigh all information with a degree of skepticism, but it seems clear that several government employees are sanctioning the falsification of a time sheet. This behavior is criminal, plain and simple.

O'Keefe clearly chooses his subjects based on a political agenda. To those who would consider themselves his political "opposition", I would ask: How would you react if an undercover video showed an NRA employee providing instructions on how to violate federal firearms laws? What if we had video exposing corruption in military contracts, or in the Treasury department during the banking bailout?

Consider the source by all means, but don't categorically dismiss the content based on a black and white political world view.

P.S.
New Jersey state law does not require the consent of all parties involved in a conversation in order for the conversation to be recorded.


Posted by: miltonc4l | June 4, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

How bold! A documentary attacking unemployed workers for getting a little bit more money in their temporary $400 a week jobs. I am doing the Census and we were granted some extra hours during training - we were instructed to read through the two training manuals given to us. Obviously, this bozo chose the irresponsible path and didn't do the work.

Posted by: editor18 | June 5, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

No matter what James O'Keefe tries to accuse others of, he willfully signed and submitted a fraudulent time sheet for the date 04/28/10, "under penalty of fine and/or imprisionment, I certify that the information on this form is true and correct to the best of my knowledge". James O'Keefe knowingly and willfully defrauded the gov't, and then tried to blame others. He even posted evidence of his crime online, with an image of his fraudulent timesheet.

Posted by: beanie9892003 | June 6, 2010 1:26 AM | Report abuse

James O'Keefe should be prosecuted and convicted for willfully defrauding, and conspiracy to defraud the United States. He has admitted to it via his publishing online of his criminal actions, and willfully producing, signing, and submitting his fraudulent timesheet. As well,as part of his pre-planned conspiracy, he misrepresented himself during the official employment phase (not acknowledging that he was arrested or charged with a prior crime) in order to defeat the official action and purpose of the census bureau.

Hass, 216 U.S. at 479-480. In Hammerschmidt, Chief Justice Taft, defined "defraud" as follows:
To conspire to defraud the United States means primarily to cheat the Government out of property or money, but it also means to interfere with or obstruct one of its lawful governmental functions by deceit, craft or trickery, or at least by means that are dishonest. It is not necessary that the Government shall be subjected to property or pecuniary loss by the fraud, but only that its legitimate official action and purpose shall be defeated by misrepresentation, chicane or the overreaching of those charged with carrying out the governmental intention.

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm00923.htm

Posted by: beanie9892003 | June 6, 2010 2:11 AM | Report abuse

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