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Key vote on 'don't ask, don't tell' set for Tuesday

By Ed O'Keefe

By Ed O'Keefe and Perry Bacon:
The U.S. Senate will hold a key vote Tuesday on a defense bill that includes language repealing "don't ask, don't tell," the Clinton-era policy banning gays from openly serving in uniform, Democratic and Republican aides said Thursday.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid earlier this week vowed to hold a vote next week, even taking to Twitter to respond to gay rights advocates.

The House passed a similar bill with repeal language this summer. The Senate's version is also expected to include an amendment to help young people in the country illegally become legal U.S. residents.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) has said he may filibuster the bill in opposition to the repeal. Gay rights protesters interrupted McCain at a Senate Armed Services Committee today to voice opposition to his... opposition.

McCain said Thursday he opposes the measure in part because lawmakers are voting to authorize the end of the policy before the Pentagon completes a study on the repeal.

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By Ed O'Keefe  | September 16, 2010; 2:21 PM ET
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Every time McCain speaks since the election he shows how out of touch he is with the American people. Thankfully he lost the election and we don't have that crazy old man running the country. He should listen to his daughter.

Posted by: msjn1 | September 16, 2010 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Boo. I'd bet a shekel that McCain thinks homosexuality is natural and is just playing politics. I could be wrong though. What's next after this vote...a vote that says people can fornicate and marry farm animals?!

Posted by: RobertCurleyJacobs | September 16, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

It's as if McCain hasn't read Rep. Murphy's amendment (H.AMDT.672) at all. Oh wait, he probably hasn't. The text in total:

"Amendment repeals "Don't Ask Don't Tell" only after: (1) receipt of the recommendations of the Pentagon's Comprehensive Review Working Group on how to implement a repeal of DADT (due December 1, 2010) and (2) a certification by the Secretary of Defense, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs and President that repeal is first, consistent with military readiness, military effectiveness, unit cohesion & recruiting, and second, that the DoD has prepared the necessary policies and regulations to implement its repeal. The amendment also includes a 60 day period after certification before the repeal takes effect."

Posted by: mnteng | September 16, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

If the repeal of the 'no ask no tell' law gets signed into law tomorrow, even before the US Military has completed its study AND all the changes (separate accommodations etc) and the price tag for those changes has been reported, I will insure that NONE of my children or grandchildren EVER volunteer for the new sodom-gomorrah US military.

Posted by: dave19 | September 16, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

McCain should hang it all up including his well deserved medals, he is becoming a disgrace to all our straight and gay service members. the dude couldnt even tell us how many homes he and his wife owned (between 8 and 11) !! oh perhaps we shouldnt ask so he wont have to tell !!

Posted by: willemkraal | September 16, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

The problem with any identified problem is the victoms that carry the burden and then then get shawdowed by it. Many have lost a lot due to purposeful information being passed around true or not. Perception is all some ever want. Truth is an unknown place for anyone that has to have the last word. Who would purposefully ask anyone if they were gay if they knew it would ruin someone except a spoiled 5th grader in the first place? Think of how many of those there are acting like that running about with the mouth open? What about some financial pay back for the past destruction of others.

Posted by: Concerned62 | September 17, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

As a gay man getting ready to begin his service in the military, it honestly brings me shame that I must hide my identity for fear of discharge due to this policy of Dont Ask Dont Tell. I am truly puzzled as to the reason we (gays/lesbians) cannot reveal ourselves, especially considering that, just like our straight counterparts, we willingly place ourselves in potentially mortal danger when we swear our oath to defend the country we love from any and all threats. Are homophobic views still predominant within our armed forces? Is the reason DADT is still being enforced because the straight members of the armed forces are afraid of us, of being required to sleep in the same quarters and use the same facilities that gay members use? If so, that is an extremely close-minded and stereotypical view of gay behavior. I cannot speak for other gay service men and women, but the reason I volunteered to serve my country is because I want to defend it from any dangerous threats that may arise, not to gawk at people. Or perhaps there is some other reason? Perhaps our lawmakers believe we are somehow inferior to, or lacking some quality our straight counterparts have? We are stereotyped as being effeminate and lacking masculine traits, but I point to those who have served our country and been unethically discharged due to their sexual orientation. Were these service men and women any less than their straight counterparts? They were able to successfully overcome the rigors of boot camp and graduate with pride, knowing they were one of a select group of individuals, a feeling i'm sure is shared by straight service men and women when they graduate as well. The standards for graduating are the same for all males and all females across the board, which means simply that every man and woman that graduates has what it takes to serve our country...

Posted by: jb1234 | September 17, 2010 7:09 PM | Report abuse

RobertCurleyJacobs, Yes you are so right. I mean that IS the natural progression...repeal a discriminatory law, then pass a law allowing people to fornicate with and to marry farm animals. Please, are you honestly that ignorant and uneducated. Please use some critical thinking and some originality in future posts. You probably did not attend a place of higher learning but read a book or a magazine and get a clue.

Posted by: chadroc23 | September 18, 2010 4:54 AM | Report abuse

Dave19 - Please don't let your children or grandchildren grow up and join our military. They likely will have been taught how to hate and discriminate just like your parents surely taught you. The military doesn't need you or any of your offspring. You know whats great though? When a person like you becomes a Dad and you have a kid that grows up to be exactly what you hate - a lesbian or gay man. (Or marrys out of their race...etc. etc.) What would you do then? Oh, I bet someone like you would disown your kid or do something even worse, wouldn't you?

Posted by: chadroc23 | September 18, 2010 5:02 AM | Report abuse

It doesn't surprise me that John McCain would lead a filibuster regarding Don't Ask, Don't Tell!

John, I could see you doing that if every gay person was a disgrace to this country, but that is not the case!

Being gay is not completely understood and in the views of some is not a choice!

I would think that since you were in the military, you would recognize what a blessing this is to serve, but yet you deny some the benefit, simply because in your viewpoint, being gay is not good enough!

I voted for you in 2008! I'm embarassed that you are using your elected office to openly discriminate those wanting to serve our country, just like you did!

I don't agree that gay behavior will upgrade our army, nor do I believe that adultery from opposite sex would either. Both must be reprobate! Any action that degrades the military must be addressed, but to parade on the Senate floor against men and women that you don't even know, is a crime! Show others respect and then Expect as Much in return!

I agree that some gay activity should not be tolerated. Gay men respect straight men or should respect straight men to a great level. By not allowing them to serve only sends a message, they will never be good enough. It's time for our country to put away the swords on our own behalf and let the straight men come out of the closet and tell us straight up that they either want to accept or reject us!

October 11th is coming out day. This year, let the straight people come out of the closet and really tell us what they think of gay people! This year, let the gay people listen as we wanted the straight people to listen when we came out of the closet.

After every war, is a more clear picture of who the other side actually are! Does it take a war here in America to discover the good qualities about our neighbors?

John McCain, I ask you, how well do you think you would have served us as President, had you been given the opportunity? Would you reconsider giving gay people a second chance to prove to you that we are good people? With a little respect, gay people cold and should be the most humble people on earth. Also, with a little disrespect, gay people could be the most damaging and immoral people. Why do we have to push each other to the ultimate rejection and make people go to war with each other?

You decide. Are gay people worth enlisting?

Posted by: reedforest | September 18, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

gay people should have the same right to kill brown people as everyone else

Posted by: jiji1 | September 20, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

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