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'Government Doesn't Suck' march planned

By Ed O'Keefe

Eye Opener

Amid growing dissatisfaction with federal employees, a group of younger, web-savvy feds are planning to march on Saturday in defense of their coworkers on the sidelines of Jon Stewart's "Rally to Restore Sanity."

Organizers of the "Government Doesn't Suck March" (their choice of words, not ours) were inspired in part by last week's Washington Post poll that revealed widespread negative perceptions of federal workers.

"We hear it day in and day out: the government sucks, federal employees are lazy and their positions are redundant," said march organizer Steve Ressler, founder of GovLoop, a social networking Web site for public servants.

Steve Ressler
Steve Ressler, center, chats with fellow federal workers at a recent conference. (Katherine Frey/Post)

"It's time to turn the tables and remind the world that government employees just happen to be people -- people that don't suck," Ressler said in a message sent to The Federal Eye on Sunday announcing the march. Government workers "are a lot of cool cats" who work hard, listen to good music and watch Stewart's "The Daily Show," "but that's all after they've spent a whole day keeping the country running," he said.

Ressler's attempt to raise awareness while having fun jives with the spirit of Saturday's "Sanity" rally and the mission of GovLoop, a site he launched in 2008 (around the same time The Federal Eye began!). The site counts tens of thousands of members -- most of them under age 35 -- across the country and around the world, who swap ideas, share tips and arrange to meet virtually or in person with counterparts from local, state, federal and international government agencies. Ressler launched the site while working as a Department of Homeland Security employee in Florida, but it grew quickly and last year he sold GovLoop and quit DHS to run it full-time. The Washington Post maintains a content partnership with GovLoop as part of our coverage of the federal government.

The "Government Doesn't Suck March" to Stewart's "Sanity" rally is scheduled to start at 10:30 a.m. Saturday at the North end of the National Air and Space Museum. Government workers and their friends and family are encouraged to join up and march together to "put a human face on governmental bureaucracy, to show the country that you're capable of having a laugh and "to send a reminder that we're not red tape, we're not slack-jawed desk jockeys and we don't suck," Ressler said. (You couldn't have used "stink" could you, Steve?)

It's unclear how many people plan to attend Saturday's rally, but more than 200,000 people have said on Facebook that they will be there. Several notable figures have donated their time and money to the event: Arianna Huffington donated buses for folks traveling from New York, Oprah Winfrey agreed to provide transportation for some of Stewart's fans and Larry King donated a porta-potty. Yup, really.

Will you join the rally? What do you think of government workers? Leave your thoughts in the comments section below

Cabinet and Staff News: What if Nobel Prize winners ran the country? President Obama hits the campaign trail. Vice President Biden says the White House is ready to do a deal on tax cuts. Obama taps Denis McDonough to serve as deputy national security adviser. A sneak peek at Hillary Clinton's new global strategy. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner is in China for currency talks. Gen. David H. Petraeus cites progress in Afghanistan. A review of Condoleezza Rice's new book. Former Bush aide Nicolle Wallace releases her new White House novel. Watergate prosecutor James F. Neal dies.

CIA:
Wider role for CIA sought: The U.S. is pushing to expand a secret effort to help Pakistan target militants in their havens near the Afghan border.

DEFENSE DEPARTMENT:
Use of contractors added to war's chaos in Iraq: The early days of the war ushered in the era of the private contractor, wearing no uniform but fighting and dying in battle.

ENERGY DEPARTMENT:
Clean energy industry looks ahead: The billions in federal stimulus dollars spent on expanding "green energy" industries and creating "green jobs" have provided a lifeline for U.S. wind and solar companies, but renewable-energy executives are worried that the future will not be as promising.

FCC:
FCC presses Fox and Cablevision on talks: The agency asked the companies to prove that they are playing fair in negotiations over retransmission fees.

FDIC:
Regulators shut 7 more banks as commercial-loan losses rise: The agency shut down banks in Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Kansas and Arizona, lifting to 139 the number of U.S. banks that have fallen this year.

GOVERNMENT CONTRACTING:
Federal contractors must navigate workplace mediation without roadmap: As the government's use of contract workers rises, agencies are finding they have to deal with more complex questions of defining a person's work status.

During government spending slowdown, contracting executives band together: MissionLink is made up of just chief executives and was formed as mid-size defense firms have faced an increasingly difficult contracting environment.

GOVERNMENT WORK/LIFE/OPERATIONS:
First open season since health reform is around the corner: From Nov. 8 to Dec. 13, FEHBP participants can alter their health, dental, vision and flexible spending account benefits; switch plans; or cancel their enrollment without penalty.

HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT:
Audit faulted Cuomo's HUD overhaul: Federal auditors say the former secretary turned New York gubernatorial candidate oversaw a "poorly planned" overhaul of personnel that bulked up HUD's public outreach but undermined the agency's enforcement efforts.

INTERIOR DEPARTMENT:
First request in for drilling after BP spill: The move came as an environmental advocacy group filed a suit challenging the decision to end the drilling moratorium and industry groups lobbied for more accelerated permitting.

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT:
Black Panther case reveals schism: An excellent Washington Post investigation into voter intimidation charges in Philadelphia and what DOJ did and didn't do about them.

STATE DEPARTMENT:
More U.S. diplomats head to Sudan before vote: Officials acknowledged that major steps have to be taken to ensure that a referendum is held on time in January.

Administration to ask for more Pakistan aid: The Obama administration announced a five-year, $2 billion package that would increase current financing for weapons purchases by about one-third.

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By Ed O'Keefe  | October 25, 2010; 6:00 AM ET
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Comments

Why are you so concerned about the word "suck"?

Posted by: subwayguy | October 25, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for covering our rally Ed.

For those wanting to come, here is the RSVP link:
http://www.govloop.com/events/government-doesnt-suck

Hope to see lots of folks screaming "Government Doesn't Suck" & "Government is Awesome"

-Steve Ressler
Founder, GovLoop.com

Posted by: sressler89 | October 25, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

I think these federal employees should be very, very careful and not even give the perception that they have violated the Hatch act. Political activities for federal workers are very restricted.

Posted by: AnnsThought | October 25, 2010 9:04 AM | Report abuse

I won't join the rally, but will defend Federal workers here. They are no different--better or worse--than their private sector worker counterparts. I will say, echoing an analysis I read last week in the WP, that those in the most intellectually and technically demanding jobs are underpaid while those in numerous clerical and quasi-clerical jobs are overpaid in relation to their private sector counterparts. The truth of the matter concerning Federal workers' mixed record of effectiveness lies in the political control of Federal programs that
in recent years has squelched these programs' efforts on behalf of particular interests. Understaffed immigration offices cannot cope with the swarm of illegals or the lengthy and idealistically generous deportation process. Hard-working industry regulators (name any industry) cannot do the job intended with understaffed organizations and self-serving senior leadership that blunts or ignores proposed penalty actions for personal political or economic gain. In short, efficiency and effectiveness take a back seat to elected and politically-appointed officials' parochial interests--sometimes to the benefit of the taxpayers; more often to particular economic interests and even individual businesses.

Posted by: Watersville | October 25, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

AnnsThought: Political activities for federal workers are not nearly as restricted as you think. The only things which are absolutely prohibited are:

Federal employees may not:
1. Solicit, accept or receive a partisan political contribution;
2. Run for partisan political office;
3. Use their official authority or influence for the purpose of interfering with or affecting the result of an election; or
4. Use Government resources, such as office supplies and Government time, to conduct political activities.

Otherwise, federal employees may vote, make financial contributions, join parties, etc etc so long as they do so on their own time as a citizen (i.e., not while wearing a government badge or using government property).

So this would be perfectly acceptable and not a violation of the Hatch Act.

Posted by: vickistired | October 25, 2010 9:53 AM | Report abuse

WE the people are the government. Anyone complaining about the government is complaining about themselves. It is up to us to elect and support representatives who do our bidding. If we do not like what they are doing, it is up to each of us to improve the system, not to merely complain.

Government employees do the best they can given the conditions that they work under. Some overperform, and others do not perform as well. They are all hampered by the regulations that can change at any time depending upon political winds.

The Reagan administration did their best to devalue the contributions of Federal Government employees, and the bashing of Federal Employees has remained in vogue since that time. It is time to realize that without the Federal Employee (as without the Armed Forces) our country could not continue to provide the safety, security, and stable social/economic environment we all enjoy.

Government employees do not suck!

Posted by: FLTNVA | October 25, 2010 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Govt workers do suck, they suck at the teat of taxpayers pocketbooks. Useless scum. Half should be fired.

Posted by: vickie1 | October 25, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Federal employees do suck. And how.

Posted by: coogene | October 25, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

Vicki1: Really? On what basis do you make that judgment? Do you include our military in that assessment? National security employees? What about employees of VA? Get specific. I'm tired of ignorant folks talking trash without the least bit of facts to actually substantiate their claims. Who do you think has value in the private sector?

You know what? Private employees suck. My interaction with the corporate world has convinced me that far more than half of those folks ought to be fired; heck, most of them belong in jail. Oh, you don't represent the corporate world? Well, most of the retail and service industry folks I deal with on a regular basis are barely past being able to talk without drooling. And I could go on.

See how productive it is to just trash talk each other? Grow up or go crawl back under your rock.

Posted by: vickistired | October 25, 2010 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Government employees do not suck. Government employees are awesome.

(signed)
Former US Government Employee.

Posted by: breywd | October 25, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

There is one main difference between the private and government employees. If enough private company employees "suck" people will spend thier money somewhere else and the company will go out of business unless they are a monopoly ( and there are some sectors where this is at least somewhat true) but government by definition is a monopoly and we can't take our tax dollars anywhere else so their is no system to correct poor performance, waste and over staffing. Indeed there is a built in bias for fereral managers to grow their staffs and budgets to justify their own compensation and power. There are few Federal or State employees that I have ever talked to in a non work environment that have not recounted many stories of poor staffing decisions.

Posted by: Tuerke9 | October 25, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

One little problem with the march - the Government does suck. Why should we hire more feds surfing internet porn during their "work" day? Oh, by the way, and how many of those doing that surfing got fired? ZERO.

Big government is not better government - it is just bigger, more expensive, and more intrusive. But Democrats like it, because the AFGE is the single largest donor to liberal candidates - never mind that some of those AFGE employees are conservatives.

Posted by: hill_marty | October 25, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Hill_Marty and other detractors:

Trotting out that old tired stereotype about useless feds surfing for porn, are we? Um, they FIRE people for doing that.

If you don't have personal knowledge of how the fed government works and who is employed there, I recommend that you be careful about knocking it.

Signed, a fed who works hard for a living, for over 8 hours a day, for slightly less money than in the private sector, for a mission which benefits the country.

Posted by: notsureIgetit | October 25, 2010 12:12 PM | Report abuse

If you believe that taking someones property without their permission is theft, which it is, then you know that gov't employees SUCK !!!

They are all members of the parasite class. They are receivers of stolen property. They live off the money that is taken by force from the private productive class.
If you receive a gov't check (other than a refund)you are a receiver of stolen property. If you take a gov't check, you are an immoral thief. You can deny it but you know deep down that you are taking money that was stolen from somebody else to give to you. Sleep well ...jerks.

Don't give me this crap that you pay taxes too. They just give you extra money that you have to give back to make it look good.

Your a bunch of creeps and you all suck!

Posted by: cjmterry921 | October 25, 2010 1:16 PM | Report abuse

cjmterry921: ever driven on the highway? or been to a national park? were you educated in public schools, or were your kids? go to a public college or university? how would you pay for medical services for our wounded military members returning from battle? should we privatize customs and border control? are you personally going to handle diplomatic relations between the U.S. and other countries? should I go on, or do you get the point? I can assume you name-call only because you can't think of how these and numerous other services would be provided without the government.

Posted by: graphchick1 | October 25, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

The title should be changed to "Federal Bureaucrats continue to SUCK off TAXPAYERS' Money Rally."

Posted by: Drudge1 | October 25, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

Public-Employees Union Now Leads All Groups in Independent Election Outlays.

The American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees is now the biggest outside spender of the 2010 elections, thanks to an 11th-hour effort to boost Democrats that has vaulted the public-sector union ahead of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the AFL-CIO and a flock of new Republican groups in campaign spending.

The 1.6 million-member AFSCME is spending a total of $87.5 million on the elections after tapping into a $16 million emergency account to help fortify the Democrats' hold on Congress.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303339504575566481761790288.html

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The INCESTUOUS relationship of OUR government employees backing the DemocRats for their promise of bigger kickbacks!

Something highly unethical of this INCEST, and it should and will be illegal!

Posted by: theaz | October 25, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

suck

Posted by: nostudme | October 25, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Sorry guys. Government workers (oxymoron?) definitely do suck. Why not get a real job, and stop leaching off the taxpayers?

Posted by: Freedom27 | October 25, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Where's the TAXPAYER'S SEAT at the Federal Employee UNION and Government Negotiation TABLE?
How did Federal employee wages increase 400% since JFK allowed Unionization?
Why are there so many of you?
Who's the A-Hole in charge of regulating French Fries in restaurants? Or are there several hundred of them?
Government wouldn't suck so much if there were LESS OF IT!

Posted by: lel2007 | October 25, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

Gov employees, your gravy train is about to come off the tracks. See what is happening in Greece? You are next.

Posted by: ranger_ric | October 25, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I doubt it will be very helpful to the democratic cause to remind people how much they hate Washington the week before the election. Having a bunch of government workers who earn very nice salaries marching about how horrible their lives are will just reinforce a viewpoint of a washington that is seriously out of touch. What a farce.

Posted by: hostdude99 | October 25, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Goodbye government leeches. The taxpayer who pays your oversized salary has said enough. Welcome to the new normal. You aren't going to like it. Oh, one last thing. You suck.

Posted by: getjiggly1 | October 25, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Watch out for the Hatch Act.

And yes government employees suck. Their working life is basically funded by the sweat of others. Even the taxes they pay come out of the pockets of others. The union dues they pay that then gets funneled to Democrats is even paid for by others.

At the end of the day the private sector tax-payer is more valuable than the public sector worker.

Posted by: katorga | October 25, 2010 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow, who can they even PAY to go to this rally? Check out this hilarious "Political Puppet Theater" video on Blue Dogs, then let's vote them out! http://www.narf.tv/?p=1037

Posted by: buckrol | October 25, 2010 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Yes, government sucks. Have you ever had to deal with a government agency? The are the most rude, ignorant, uncaring people you will ever meet. They don't care that you pay taxes. They don't care that they are supposed to be there to serve you. They only care about their 30 paid holidays a year plus 5 weeks of vacation and their bloated retirement and benefit packages. They are merely marking time until they day they get to get paid for doing even less than they do at work. GOVERNMENT SUCKS!

Posted by: KileA | October 25, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

Living in a state where the license bureaus are private fee offices- i.e. NOT government run, but run by private companies, I absolutely hated the behavior and the inconsistency from office to office. Depending on where you went, the fees would be higher in office A than office B, one office would be in a poorly kept up building with dirty carpet, another would have rude employees.
Then I moved to a state where it is not run by a private fee office, I was shocked at the difference. It is the most efficiently run business I have ever been in. The workers are pleasant and helpful, the lines move fast, the fees are consistent.
I have been in really great post offices and really bad fed ex offices and vice versa. I have been in really terrible Wal-Marts and decent ones. Sometimes McDonalds forgets a burger or the fries are cold and another one will be perfect.
It's simply part of dealing with business run by human beings. One thing that will be consistent is inconsistency.

Posted by: Bowedoak | October 25, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

From my dealings with government workers, I would ask Steve Ressler to prove they are people. The things I have dealt with in government are not people. I have never seen a person reach such levels of incompetence and sloth.

Posted by: robpg | October 25, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Government workers have become greedy. They all believe they should retire at 39 while I work till I am 70 in order to pay for their benefits.

Posted by: dencal26 | October 25, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

This govt sucks the life out of the people that they over tax.

A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. -----Thomas Jefferson

Is that what we have today?

As our enemies have found we can reason like men, so now let us show them we can fight like men also.

Posted by: tjefferson3 | October 25, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Of course they feel this way. Obama blew the 820 Billion dollar stimulus on hiring more govt workers and boosting their salary and benefits

Posted by: dencal26 | October 25, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

We should de-fund and disenfrachise the EPA, FDA, IRS, DOE, Dept of Education, HHS, Homeland security, Dept of civil rights, NPR, GMC(govt owned portion), BOA(socialized version), and the list goes on.

Then I would like govt much better.

Posted by: tjefferson3 | October 25, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Most do suck. I mean really suck. When I graduated from college five years ago I took a job in the public sector. I was wide-eyed and just so sure I was going to make a difference. I liked my job but just couldn't deal with the incompetents I had to work with on a daily basis. No make that an hourly basis. No a second by second basis.

Internally it goes like this: there is one competent person in each department. You go to that person for whatever you need. Whether it is their job or not. Then they do the same to you.

Taxpayer's heads would spin if they could see the day to day, nonpublic operations of a government entity.

Now having paid my way through college by joining the military let me answer this one. If you are an enlisted man and above and E-5 chances are you're a boob. If you are an officer and above Captain chances are you're a lazy boob.

Posted by: littledarkheart | October 25, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Govt workers do suck, they suck at the teat of taxpayers pocketbooks. Useless scum. Half should be fired.

Posted by: vickie1

Goodbye government leeches. The taxpayer who pays your oversized salary has said enough. Welcome to the new normal. You aren't going to like it. Oh, one last thing. You suck.

Posted by: getjiggly1

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If it were possible, I would love to have you accompany me to work, so that I could defy - not challenge, defy - you to keep up with me.

Also, there are hundreds, if not thousands, of federal workers - not military - who have been sent, voluntarily and involuntarily, to Iraq and Afghanistan. Your employer can do the same, right, guys? Several of them have been killed in the line of duty. Their surviving loved ones and co-workers, I'm certain, are deeply touched by your recognition of the sacrifices they've made.

Posted by: hofbrauhausde | October 25, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Sorry Steve R, but you do suck.

Posted by: Dale_Winler | October 25, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

most could not make it in the private sector,that's why they turn to the gov't.too much of gov't is redundant and unproductive.much too pervasive on a massive scale.in a way like another large welfare program.

Posted by: pvdempsey | October 25, 2010 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Well, once again I see misplaced anger directed at public service employees, most of whom originally wanted to work in government out of a sense of public service - for those of you a bit on the intellectually challenged side, that means serving your country.

So, when you complain about government workers, consider that the largest government paid workers are in the armed services. And I'd be willing to bet that those screaming the loudest here have not served in the military, but probably have exceptional arm-chair general experience, or would that be XBox 360. No matter.

What many don't understand is just what entails a government worker. They tend not to rip you off, foreclose on your house, rip you off with extra fees, create pyramid schemes to steal your savings, or engage in high risk financial behaviors that almost collapse the global economy.

Yes, a lot of people have a right to be angry, but their anger is misplaced. It should be directed at those who made out like bandits while overseeing a collapsing financial system. It should also be angry that corporations, mostly US, pushed a trading system that guaranteed jobs would flock overseas so they could turn around and sell junk back the American consumer.

All that said, this road has been traveled before. It rises and falls whenever certain politicians want to use public servants as scapegoats - it helps to cover the failed policies they supported in the first place. Ronald Reagan railed about it in the 1980s, pushed public servants working in social programs out, then turned around and oversaw the largest growth in government employees working in defense. Know your history children.

Posted by: MTWRider | October 25, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I am not seeing any examples here of how you think people working in govt suck. You guys are talking about taxes and programs but not actual people. There is a difference. Anything you have to say about the people who work in govt, not the protocol, not the program, but the actual people, you could find an equivalent in the private sector.
But then of course, once Drudge links a story, the comments are all down hill from there.

Posted by: Bowedoak | October 25, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

most could not make it in the private sector,that's why they turn to the gov't.too much of gov't is redundant and unproductive.much too pervasive on a massive scale.in a way like another large welfare program.

Posted by: pvdempsey

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I heard the same thing when I was in the Army. Truth is, most people, especially like you, could make it neither in the Army nor in the public sector. If it was so easy, more people would do it. The agency I work for recently had a vacancy announcement for a career entry program. There were a total of 20 available positions. More than 10,000 applied. To me, that says that there are great many people out there who want to join in, especially for all the right reasons. By the way, invest in some grammar and spelling lessons. Maybe that's why you're so bitter.

Posted by: hofbrauhausde | October 25, 2010 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Government does suck...as does Congress. It's a fact of life. They don't see it because they're in the same circle of bureaucrats....but they do suck. For the most part, they are incompetent, lazy, arrogant, and have sense of entitlement from the taxpayers/.
A little rally with a few signs won't change that. Changing their attitudes will.

Posted by: HabanaJoe | October 25, 2010 9:21 PM | Report abuse

It's not a question of if federal employees suck or not -- I personally think they try to succeed in their jobs. The question is can this country continue to bleed money by the trillions. You'd have to be pretty dim if you don't think that more government spending will lead to more waste and corruption. A private company by design must watch its bottom line and that it doesn't overspend, but that's not the case with government. Government departments actually have an incentive to increase their budgets so they can get more stuff, increase their size and influence more people. You only need to compare communism vs capitalism to see who does things better: the private sector or public sector. Liberals will never get it, even with the demise of their beloved USSR.

Posted by: zacksd | October 25, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Well now, I do believe the situation is more like this,

You, see... the tax payer is the Suck-er and government is the Suck-ee.

Posted by: dmacwired | October 25, 2010 9:41 PM | Report abuse

verry funny no real americans but a bunch of union thugs living off the earnings of working americans. what is wrong with america is we have 2 cultures in play. we have the real world america who produce or get fired or the goverment class who produce very little and get very little out of it but continue to expect to continue and thrive on the producers to pay them. until the real america puts a stop to this we can expect for our kids future a nonsustainable debt that will destroy their future. so to every seiu thug who comes to this stupid and illegal rally. go home and explain to your kids what is going to happen in about 20 yrs when you retire and they will have to take care of you! in 20 yrs what do you think they will tell you?

Posted by: carl6352 | October 25, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Whether or not they suck... some do, some don't... there are far too many of them. It's past time to seriously whittle down the Federal workforce.

Posted by: DesScorp | October 25, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

"...public service employees,... for those of you a bit on the intellectually challenged side, that means serving your country."

No sir, I begs to differ - you see - history would indicate the contrary - and the meaning is closer to this idea...

To be a government employee means you get serviced by the public.

See, Now we're getting down to the essence of the truth of the matter.

Posted by: dmacwired | October 25, 2010 9:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!

Posted by: Jack64 | October 25, 2010 9:58 PM | Report abuse

God bless Ressler. he quit his job with the feds to run the website full time. Hopefully he will turn it into a profitable enterprise, hire people, have to start paying taxes and maybe then will he will realize why a lot of Americans have a little bit of a problem with the government and the number of people they employ. You would think the turnout would be huge considering how many people in metro DC work for the feds but i doubt it, we'll see.

Posted by: macheki | October 25, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

The picture looks like some Obama voting, liberally impaired, juchebag dolts. Looks like they are at a tax payer funded free for all event, in which they are given full per diem and travel costs. No doubt, their position in our Federal Gov is needed and justified. I mean, seriously, they look like brain dead Obamatrons.

Posted by: 65apr | October 25, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Reagan said he wanted to "get the government off the backs of the American people" but I think we need to "get the people off the back of the government."

I think the people should quit turning to the government to do everything for them. They should not expect the government to:
1. Take care of their health.
2. Educated their kids.
3. Tell them what to eat and not eat.
4. Tell them what they can and cannot say.
5. Tell them what substances they should ingest.
6. Provide health care for them.
7. Provide retirement for them.
8. Regulate their business dealings.
9. Clean their air and water.


If we would unburden the government of all those unnecessary tasks, it would be in a much better position to do the things the constitution intended for the government to do such as defend our borders, maintain courts and provide police force to preserve and protect our individual rights.

Then the government would not suck, so much.

Posted by: LKILLEN | October 25, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Then there was Ross Perot when he ran for president. He traveled around the country talking about the giant sucking sound we would be hearing if we didn't elect him.

Well Ross, that giant sucking sound was a whisper compared to the sound of our hard earned money getting sucked up by the government or, if you will, getting sucked down a rat hole - it's one and the same.

Posted by: dmacwired | October 25, 2010 10:10 PM | Report abuse

To suck or not to suck, that is the question... or is it?

Actually the question is:

Where can we find more suckers to pay our salaries and benefits and ensure that COLA year after year and don't forget....there's that pension too!

Posted by: dmacwired | October 25, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

A large percentage of government workers DO suck, but the same can be said for those in the private sector as well (especially BIG business.) The main difference is that government is a monopoly and so does not care about efficiency, the more workers the better. Also, most of what federal government does these days is not even within their constitutional mandate and should be left to the private sector, if done at all. With the exception of the military, government workers are paid more than their private sector counterparts, if they exist. Again, in many cases there is no private sector equivalent because their jobs are not really necessary and the private sector cannot afford to do unnecessary work. There are many very good government employees, the problem is they are being overpaid to do work that is not within governments mandate and in most cases not necessary. GOVERNMENT SUCKS is not a slam on the people who do the work, it is a slam on the work they do. Now unions and union workers truly do suck, private or public sector. Anytime pay is determined by seniority and contracts instead of performance, you will always get too much pay and not enough performance. OH MTWrider, you said most start working for government so they can serve the public. What a joke, most don't give a crap about the public, it is all about job security and beneifts. Wise_1 OUT!

Posted by: the_wise_1 | October 25, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Now, before I go I want to leave all you government employees out dare - with this final thought.

When you all is sucking on that teat..

please remember...

Try not to bite the teat that feeds ya.

Posted by: dmacwired | October 25, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Someone should look at the travel/trips to D.C. for federal employees around the time of the march because I would imagine that there will be a LOT of "meetings" scheduled in D.C. so that Fed employees around the country can have their trips to D.C. paid for by the taypayer as a "business expense", complete with hotel, airfare AND "per diem" for food. A lot of Federal employees did it for Obama's inauguration.

Posted by: jgillil2 | October 25, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

It depends... if your the suckee, government sucks, big time; if you are a suckling, filling you belly off the wealth of the suckees, government sure doesn't suck from your perspective.

Reality: we've just about killed the golden goose (to add to the animal theme).

According to WSJ, there are about 1000 Billionaires... WORLD WIDE (not surprisingly, many billionaires are overseas where taxes are cheaper.) Their net worth is about $2.3T, or less than the amount Obama has added to the national debt in less than 2 years.

IF we could confiscate ALL the wealth of the billionares ...world wide... we couldn't get our debt back to 2008!

Now cosider this: much of that "wealth" is tied up in Treasury bonds, buildings, land, etc. ...if the government took it, the government would have to first borrow money to pay out the bond, find someone to sell the land and buildings to, before it could hand out any money to the sucklings!

We are in MUCH worse economic shape than any politician wants to admit; they are telling us sweet lies so we don't panic.

What they need to do is start explaining the Goose has to go to the hospital for a LONG stay and all the sucklings have to start sucking their thumbs (or go to work competing with the Chinese.)

Posted by: Karl_Quick | October 25, 2010 10:27 PM | Report abuse

This group of Feds are missing the point. It's not that you don't do a good job, it's just that we out here are tired of hearing about growth in government for bureaucracies we didn't ask for. The Fed level is supposed to be small and useful. And please don't tell me I couldn't get along if it weren't for you. There are tens of thousands of "made up" government jobs at Federal, State, County and City levels paying real paychecks and benefits. Too many government jobs that we are coerced into paying for.

Posted by: My_View | October 25, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

All y'all government employees SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: djlamb28805 | October 25, 2010 10:40 PM | Report abuse

You all SUCK!

Posted by: djlamb28805 | October 25, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

The caption under the photo reads, "Steve Ressler, center, chats with fellow federal workers at a recent conference." Notice they are all holding pints of beer...at a conference....having fun (look at their faces)....that taxpayers are funding. Huh? Wasn't it Obama that led the attacks on corporations holding conferences that were fun?? Stop spending my taxes to fund conferences for federal employees so they can drink beer and have fun!

Posted by: charlie_drake74 | October 25, 2010 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Well, yes, government DOES suck.

And for all those who keep chanting "government workers are just like the rest of us in the private sector", I will remind you that:

1) Government "workers" are tax CONSUMERS, not tax-payers. Yes, I know they "pay" taxes, theoretically. However, they are PAID WITH TAXES (either directly imposed on the rest of us, or indirectly, such as money printing by the government which steals a little bit from us all). So they are net TAX PARASITES.

2) Government "workers" frequently "work" in occupations which are completely un-viable in the private sector. Take, for instance, our friends in the USPO. Why, on EARTH, is there such a thing? And why do we have to SUBSIDIZE it every year? Fedex does a better job, and everybody in the world knows it.

3) Government workers unions are corrupt, and of course always vote to INCREASE the size of government, which is only in their interests, and against the interests of all taxpayers.

4) Bottom line - government workers are parasites on all the rest of us. They can march all they want, but they will still be parasites. We can do without them. They can't do without us, but they want to boss us around. There is no "government service" - there is a desire for "government servitude" FOR government workers, BY taxpayers.

Abolish all government employee unions. Cut government "worker" salaries.

And lets all have a "Yes, Government Does Suck" Rally.
2)

Posted by: HMS82 | October 25, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

If we all worked for the government, who would pay the bills?

Posted by: Jack64 | October 25, 2010 10:57 PM | Report abuse

graphchick1; You are obviously state indoctriated. You think that the state must take care of you from cradle to grave or you just won't be able to make it. It's okay with you to steal from those who produce as long as it takes care of your sorry, immoral ass?

If you take the time to read a little you will find out that everything can be done better and cheaper by freedom and free enterprise.

Dump government and all it's thieving employees.

Posted by: cjmterry921 | October 25, 2010 11:00 PM | Report abuse

the problem IS that the kids running the government are getting their 'news' from the daily show. that really sucks..for all of us.

Posted by: elpolacko | October 25, 2010 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Geez! If you've got to declare it, it's too late. The government's suckitude has reached epic proportions. There's no going back now.

Posted by: jbianco28 | October 25, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Are you kidding me? Government employees suck!! Government efficiency is an oxymoron. Can anyone give me a single example of this? There don't have to worry about getting fired so what do they care how fast something gets done or whether the taxpayer receives good customer service?

Posted by: sconni | October 25, 2010 11:13 PM | Report abuse

Bet you a donut that a good half the federal employees who show up for the "we don't suck march" are going to be on the clock. Our tax dollars at work, eh?

Posted by: jasonn13 | October 25, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

...."but that's all after they've spent a whole day keeping the country running,"

Say what?

Seems to be a case of misplaced arrogance. The people who keep the country running are out in the market place producing goods and services. As someone who makes his livelihood helping others feed the beast, don't even try to tell me who keeps the economy cranking and who burdens it with regulations, paperwork and capital drain. Yes, it is beyond doubt that there are many good, hard working public employees. I've dealt with them. But if all of government wandered off and got lost, the rest of the country would be able to deal with it. Might be a couple of pot holes to deal with, but we'd manage.

Posted by: kauffman1 | October 25, 2010 11:29 PM | Report abuse

Just using the phrase "Cool cats" makes you suck.

Posted by: mewade69 | October 25, 2010 11:30 PM | Report abuse

No, I won't be there because I will be working. Something most government employees don't know the meaning of.

Posted by: sharon28627 | October 25, 2010 11:33 PM | Report abuse

So, Progressive Liberals will parade to restore 'sanity'. Good God we're in trouble!

Posted by: picomanning | October 25, 2010 11:36 PM | Report abuse

If America allows open homosexuality you wouldn't say that they suck would you?

Posted by: picomanning | October 25, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

Not sure what the point is here.
Government Union Employees think that they have to prove they are relevant because Taxpayers feel Government has grown way beyond its Constitutional limitations?
Looks like a Union sponsored Straw Man argument to make it look like people unfairly target the individual Federal Employees while the real problem lies with the size, scope and limitations on Liberty that a bloated Federal Bureaucracy has created.
Really like the argument that if you don't like the Federal Employee Unions you don't support the Military. The Military is mandated by the Constitution, not the EPA, the DOE or most of the alphabet soup Cabinet Departments.
Alinsky lives.

Posted by: Antiobamunist | October 25, 2010 11:44 PM | Report abuse

I'll admit; a lot of it is jealousy.

If I showed up to work drunk, got very little done, and got caught watching porn; I'd get fired. It must be nice for that not to be the case.

But yeah, notsureIgetit; they get fired for that; right?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/194932/federal_workers_caught_watching_porn_at_work.html

SEC workers not fired for years, some not ever. One filled his entire Harddrive and started using external storage...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42189.html

The NSF didn't bother to log who was surfing porn until caught...

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/04/new_sec_porn_bust_details_rele_1.html

'SEC porn scandal results in zero firings, agency says' Good headline...


"Staff members at an agency that oversees offshore drilling accepted tickets to sports events, lunches and other gifts from oil and gas companies and used government computers to view pornography, according to an Interior Department report alleging a culture of cronyism between regulators and the industry."


Posted by: gekkobear1 | October 25, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

"In at least one case, an inspector for the Minerals Management Service admitted using crystal methamphetamine and said he might have been under the influence of the drug the next day at work"

Hmm, Crystal Meth? Maybe that one got fired... maybe.

Posted by: gekkobear1 | October 25, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

cjmterry921: ever driven on the highway? or been to a national park? were you educated in public schools, or were your kids? go to a public college or university? how would you pay for medical services for our wounded military members returning from battle? should we privatize customs and border control? are you personally going to handle diplomatic relations between the U.S. and other countries? should I go on, or do you get the point? I can assume you name-call only because you can't think of how these and numerous other services would be provided without the government.

Driven on a highway? Yea, I hit a pothole and broke the ball joint on my car.

National Parks? Not in Arizona, you could get killed by a drug dealer,

Public Schools? Teachers having sex with children, schools unsafe, abysmal results, failed policies for decades

Public College? My son's Poli Sci refuses to call on him because he refuses liberal
indoctrination

The VA? Why don't you go a hospital and ask the Vets what they think of your "service"

Border Control? Are you kidding? 10 million illegal aliens. You guys let the 9/11 creeps in. Times Square bomber. BVD bomber. Mexican border
What color is the sky in your world?

Diplomatic Relations? How many wars in the past 100 years?

Should you go on? No, but you should stop drinking.

I'll go on.

How's the lawsuit against Arizona going?
How's the investigation of Sheriff Arpaio going?
You guys did a great job on Katrina.
Ditto, the BP oil spill.
Thanks for shutting down the only light bulb factory in the US.
How's the war on drugs going?
How's the war on poverty going?
Built any good Mosques lately?
Sent any kids to Cuba at gunpoint lately?
Had sex with the president lately?
Joe Biden's motorcade drivers, top notch government employees, only 2 people dead (so far)

I've been harsh so let me give you a few thank you's

Thank you for the Apple computer
Thank you for Windows
Thank you for Ebay
Thank you for Twitter
Thank you for Facebook
Thank you for discovering global warming (and whose fault it is)
Thank you for Google
Thank you for the NFL
Thank you for baseball
Thank you for apple pie

Posted by: Bonhoeffer | October 26, 2010 12:00 AM | Report abuse

LIARS! Government DOES suck! Just look at all the federal employees watching porn on their computers when they should be working. These are the same lazy slugs who make twice what I do and can retire with 200% of their salary after just 15 minutes of "work". Look at Greece you lazy pigs, that's how you'll end up! I will not pay at least 50% of my salary so you scum can live the life of luxury.

Posted by: TruthWins | October 26, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

'Government Doesn't Suck'
----------------
So says government employees and recipients of government largess.

Posted by: pdjskm | October 26, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

Was Monica Lewinsky a government employee?

Posted by: willy39 | October 26, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Anyone who can't comprehend how bad "government" sucks, has a very real need to live in the real world with the rest of us.
Wannabe's need not show... they'll only get beat up on sight.

Posted by: wannabersc | October 26, 2010 12:28 AM | Report abuse

They do SUCK! And using Steve's own words, "LAZY and REDUNDANT" - unfortunately, you conveniently neglected to mention: GROSSLY OVERPAID!

But with your stated alignments in this article, you've also well shown your Liberal (or Socialist) leanings!

Posted by: bigpat1 | October 26, 2010 12:30 AM | Report abuse

"It's time to turn the tables and remind the world that government employees just happen to be people -- people that don't suck,"

You must be new to the bureaucracy. Yes, it does suck, you're just naive.

Every incentive government institutions have is wrong. It's un-reformable and irredeemable.

/signed recovering 10 year bureaucrat. If you want to not suck, quit now. Seriously get your dignity back, ditch that looser organization.

PS: did I mention how clueless the organizers are?

Posted by: DCisCrap | October 26, 2010 12:34 AM | Report abuse

So, the TEAT PARTY gathering on the Mall will now have even more sucklings attending. Great. I hope someone records the giant slurping sound as they cheer for a Gov takeover. Nov 2; TEAT PARTY vs TEA PARTY Round 1 !!!

Posted by: Fretless1 | October 26, 2010 1:03 AM | Report abuse

While it may be true that you government employees may not suck, you are still revenuers and as of Commissar Obama’s dictatorship you are not to be trusted and the only thing for a revenuer once it leaves the black top is it should not be allowed to get back to the black top. You are not a person to me you are an entity that must be mistrusted.

Posted by: drpageiv | October 26, 2010 1:12 AM | Report abuse

Fire all non-military government employees now and put a lifetime hiring freeze on anyone who has every worked for the government.

Make them all find jobs in the private sector... if they can. They keep telling us how over qualified and underpaid they are... let's let them prove it.

As for whatever it is that government is supposed to do that we can't live without, let's get in some new blood and give someone else a chance. Can they really do all that much worse than our current job-for-life bureaucracy?

Posted by: LePauvrePapillon | October 26, 2010 1:15 AM | Report abuse

"Government workers "are a lot of cool cats" who work hard, listen to good music and watch Stewart's "The Daily Show," "but that's all after they've spent a whole day keeping the country running," he said."

Don't you mean "while they're keeping the country running"???

Must be the reason there's such euphemisms like "government efficiency"...

And now they're taking over control of our health care as well?

We're Dooooomed!

Posted by: HeckSpawn | October 26, 2010 1:29 AM | Report abuse

"Government workers "are a lot of cool cats" who work hard, listen to good music and watch Stewart's "The Daily Show," "but that's all after they've spent a whole day keeping the country running," he said."

Don't you mean "while they're keeping the country running"???

Must be the reason there's such euphemisms like "government efficiency"...

And now they're taking over control of our health care as well?

We're Dooooomed!

Posted by: HeckSpawn | October 26, 2010 1:30 AM | Report abuse

Think of the 10 most honorable professions you can.

Now, are more than half of the people in them Government employees.

I work for a small business. I say Government doesn't suck. Big business on the other hand....

Posted by: jaxen | October 26, 2010 1:37 AM | Report abuse

That's great but, there seems to one big problem... government does suck.

Posted by: dmarshall1 | October 26, 2010 1:41 AM | Report abuse

Nope, we won't be attending the march. We'll be working like we always are on Saturday. You see, we own a small business. We will be pulling that wagon these young cool cats ride in. Aren't they just so special. And will be hoping we can make payroll. The whole system "sucks" ( although I hate that crude word) in spades. As does this astroturf march.

The tea party march drew people who paid their own way there. The participants in this "march" seem to need a lot of help to get there. How typical.

Posted by: Txpose | October 26, 2010 1:57 AM | Report abuse

Jaxen: "Think of the 10 most honorable professions you can.

Now, are more than half of the people in them Government employees.

I work for a small business. I say Government doesn't suck. Big business on the other hand...."

OK, Jaxen, let's see:
1. Bureaucrat
2. Bureaucrat Supervisor
3. Bureaucrat Manager
4. Senior Bureaucrat Manager
5. Bureaucrat Regional Manager
6. Bureaucrat Senior Regional Manager
7. Bureaucrat National Manager Supervisor
8. Bureaucrat National Supervisor Manager
9. Bureaucrat Vice-Senior-National Co-Chair Lead Supervising Manager
10. Bureaucrat Cabinet Member

Oops, those were the LEAST honorable...

They suck because they are parasites on the lifeblood of this country and economy. They consume trillions of our tax dollars and produce nothing in the way of gross product. Next time the Dimocrats raise your taxes and force you out of business, remember what it was like to be your own boss and have your own productive part in the economy.

Posted by: HeckSpawn | October 26, 2010 2:07 AM | Report abuse

..and for the winner this year for the most "Un-Cool March" of the year...

You can paint it any way you want...but the only government that doesn't suck is one that resembles that of an old man's genitals in a D.C. snowstorm- really small.

Posted by: SpiderBabe | October 26, 2010 2:21 AM | Report abuse

They are right, government doesn't suck. It's the people running it that really suck! Think Obama, Pelosi and Reid!

Posted by: Floridian71 | October 26, 2010 3:07 AM | Report abuse

They are right, government doesn't suck. It's the people running it that really suck! Think Obama, Pelosi and Reid!

Posted by: Floridian71 | October 26, 2010 3:08 AM | Report abuse

Hilarious. The statists march. Man, it's SO edgy working for uh -- THE MAN.

"Daddy when I grow up I wanna work for the regime."

Well just another example of left's wet-dreaming about spending other people's money to make them do their bidding and the bidding of the regime.

And talk about being TONE DEAF. Partying like its Clinton's first term. Well they are very immature and young.

"The trouble with socialists is that eventually they run out of other peoples' money." Margaret Thatcher.

Posted by: espresso | October 26, 2010 3:19 AM | Report abuse

From the comments here, it seems that many Federal workers are spending quite a bit of time posting positive responses to stories that help them keep their cushy jobs, which pay far above the equivalent private sector jobs. I'm sure that none of this is happening during work hours.

Posted by: mediaspork | October 26, 2010 3:47 AM | Report abuse

"The March Of The Brown Shirts"

Isn't this what they do in China? The old Soviet Union? North Korea? Nazi Germany? Will they also be wearing red & black arm bands to represent the New United Soviet States of America? Talk about misguided sheeple! This is the nastiest sickest form of propaganda there is, to use the people to push the agenda of the global off shore Banksters that are raping and plundering everything we have and everything we will ever have. And Neo-Cons, don't go saying this is a leftwingnutjob thing either because if this were a "Bush Government Doesn't Suck Rally" you would be all falling all over yourselves to get there. What in the world have we become? George Washington & Thomas Jefferson are rolling over in their graves.
Libertarians, it's time to unite, tyranny is here.

Posted by: XPIOLT | October 26, 2010 4:13 AM | Report abuse

Look around your room and try to find one thing produced by a government worker. At least 20% of them could be eliminated as a cost cutting measure. Bring back manufacturing jobs and quit employing paper shufflers who are monkey wrenches in the works.

Posted by: big_bear | October 26, 2010 4:18 AM | Report abuse

And as for Stewart (the System's court jester) half of his audience has been in college for ten years. If you visit their social network pages, you will be hard pressed to not find a picture of any of them without alcohol in their hand (hence the ten year plan). The college racket leads to high paying government jobs (shuffling paper) to pay off all the debt incurred while attaining that African Philosophy degree.

Posted by: big_bear | October 26, 2010 4:21 AM | Report abuse

Hmmm... if public and private workers are of the same quality and caliber, then there must be something inherent in the public sector structure that makes it suck no matter who works there.

So why would we want to keep expanding it?

Posted by: Fretless1 | October 26, 2010 4:22 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, I have to go with SUCK!!!

Except NASA, they at least have contributed to new inventions...

Posted by: russellburgett | October 26, 2010 4:31 AM | Report abuse

Wow! Gov workers organizing even more meetings! They are dedicated!

Posted by: WhatTheHeck | October 26, 2010 4:32 AM | Report abuse

The government does suck! i have always said: "If it were not for government jobs stupid people would starve!" With all of the wasteful spending, the redundancy of positions and the general malaise of government employees it's a wonder that anything is truly accomplished... I don't see this changing for the better in my lifetime! I say to you gubment employees do more than whine, and be thankful you don't have to campaign to keep your Jobs if that were the case I don't think your pensions would be too secure...

Posted by: patriotshammer | October 26, 2010 6:14 AM | Report abuse

The government does suck.

Most government workers also suck.

You "keep the country running"?? Really?

What a joke.

Posted by: txdon | October 26, 2010 6:58 AM | Report abuse

Gov’t doesn’t “suck”, it’s evil.

Posted by: getjiggly1 | October 26, 2010 6:59 AM | Report abuse

What a bunch of sucking dweebs. Sorry but you do suck.

Posted by: gorams1 | October 26, 2010 7:15 AM | Report abuse

This is all very cute and clever, but after admitting that government workers watch Jon Stewart, it only serves to prove that government does suck.

Posted by: blouis117 | October 26, 2010 7:17 AM | Report abuse

Who can possibly think this is a good idea? In an era where at least 10% of the workforce is unemployed, where job insecurity and outsourcing are daily worries, and where defined benefit pensions have been eliminated, thousands of people without any of those concerns will be marching with bullhorns and banners. Talk about rubbing it in.

Posted by: freods | October 26, 2010 7:27 AM | Report abuse

Ladies & Gentleman,

For all you negative and anti-govt worker haters... please move to a forum which you can be identified as a REAL taxpayer, with your name, address and contact information... then please show your same remorse. If you have the numbers, you'll get what you wish... but we want to be sure YOU are not the same hypocrit SLOBS suckin off the troughs of welfare or other govt provided incentives! Let's see how things turn out then!

Be very careful what you wish for!

~ federal civilian employee

Posted by: darbyohara | October 26, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

So basically the tax payers will be watching their employees March to support the very thing they are upset about which is large bloated government? Hilarious.

Posted by: spasell | October 26, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

This particular government sucks. I don't remember a time in my life that I haven't been fighting the government to save something, like my gun rights, my home from property taxes increasing, my paycheck, etc., etc, The government takes your liberty and your property. Now we have the Marxists Ostupid Democraps robbing us blind and taking our rights. Yes, big government sucks, and this "Band of Democrat Bums" sucks worse.
NEVER EVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: docpsych34 | October 26, 2010 7:57 AM | Report abuse

"We hear it day in and day out: the government sucks, federal employees are lazy and their positions are redundant,"

"We hear it day in and day out: the government sucks, federal employees are lazy and their positions are redundant,"

Posted by: bill984 | October 26, 2010 7:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm going to the rally. I want to be there and witness the largest gathering of useless, lazy, and arrogant people who could not hold a real job if their pitiful lives depended on it. This is just the beginning of Obama's utopia.

Posted by: astralweeks | October 26, 2010 8:10 AM | Report abuse

More tedious hipsters on the government dole. These just happen to be overpaid Democrats. There's one of them for every 100 democrats suckling the government teat. How this idiot-menagerie has managed to procure such unmitigated power is one of the curiosities of our time.

Posted by: cartmaneric | October 26, 2010 8:11 AM | Report abuse

Government workers NOT suck?

After being discharged from Walter Reed while processing out of my installation the day before Thanksgiving with government airline tickets in hand and a departure time fast approaching, the high BMI desk jockey filling out my paperwork demonstrated why all the love.

When the clock hit 10 the rotund civil servant stopped writing and talking. He pulled open a lower drawer and brought out his snacktime fare of crackers, cheez whiz and had a largesse maintenance break as my flight departure time closed in.

This was my first real interaction with government sector labor. I was confused by their need for union representation. From what abuse are they in need of protection, expectations of diligence?

Not since have I been as positively impressed as I was negatively by this rotund do-nothing who managed to find a place in the world where he could scrounge an income from so little commitment or effort.

Posted by: ascpgh1 | October 26, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

"So basically the tax payers will be watching their employees March to support the very thing they are upset about which is large bloated government?"

Yep, at least we can still watch it on non-government controlled media, for now.

Government doesn't build roads, it pays private contractors to do so.

One half of all union members are government employees, from whom the union garnishes wages and gives the money to the socialist Democrats, highly unethical, immoral and should be illegal.

Posted by: PeteRosel | October 26, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

THAT rally cry is not gonna convince me.

Might just prove the point.

Posted by: njtou | October 26, 2010 8:13 AM | Report abuse

I'm very sorry to have to say that Govt workers do suck.

In the private business world when customer service sucks at one business, people have a choice to go down the street to another business that doesn't suck. Not so with Govt workers.

90% of govt workers couldn't make it in the private sector. They wold be fired for being too slow and non productive.

Here's a big butt for you, it may or may not be your own fault.
You may have learned these habits from your trainer, you may actually be a slow and lazy person.

But in any event, the tax payers are wise to this and are pssed.

The fact that you guys are going to protest march to say that you don't suck is just going to pss more people off because they know the true state of govt service.

Posted by: JoethePoster | October 26, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Foolish rally. The mood in the country is that government DOES suck, and these idiots want to rally in defense of a bloated government, while unemployment in the private sector is sky high?? That's sticking it in the face of TAXPAYERS who pay their salaries. Plus federal law prohibits POLITICAL rallies by government employees!! By what STRETCH of the imagination are we to believe that this is not a political rally?

Posted by: numag | October 26, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

Note the photo of your typical Washington DC Bureaucrat drinking beer on Government time. Immediate 30% RIF in civilian agencies and 20% cut the pay of all the GS bureaucrats, they SUCK (and so does the WashCompost).

Posted by: Drudge1 | October 26, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

These usurping right-wingers do not employ any government worker, just as nobody at Heinz works for me just because I buy their ketchup. Some of these presumptuous, over-inflated egos ought to be on a crash-diet, I'd say.

Posted by: SixOysters | October 26, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

Restore Sanity to America! Fire 2/3 of all Government Workers ACROSS THE BOARD! Eliminate entire Redundant Departments like Education, (Separation of Education and State is more important than Church and State) and stop Czars and Agencies from making law that restricts the freedopms of American Citizens and Businesses.

Posted by: worddust | October 26, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

An employee public or private is no better or worse than the leaders that employ them. Most of us wake up every day trying to do our best and the right thing. Do private leaders suck? Some yes, some no. Same thing with government. My issue is I'm tired paying over 50% in taxes at all levels of governement. It's turning into slavery and I get little to nothing back. We're all scared of our healthcare turning into a giant experience with the DMV which in most states actually sucks. Can you imagine trying to get your healthcare from a surly government employee who thinks they're doing you a favor to even listen.

Then throw on top the realization that federal employees don't contribute to social security, they will not have to be forced out of their current healthcare systems, there is a lot of boiling resentment among those that actually pay taxes.

So if your a governmet employee it's not about you. It's about the politicians who are trying to divide us as Americans and pit us against each other all so they can hold power. I don't care if your democrat or republican we're all Americans and if you've forgotten that it's time to remember.

Any government that has to hire 16,000 IRS agents to "enforce" Obamacare has gone from representative government all the way back to Imperial Rome. When the centurion shows up at your door and you have to bow and scrape we've turned back 2,000 years of civilization. So are you a government employee first? or an American.

Posted by: satcal0 | October 26, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

How about the often used phrase, "GOOD ENOUGH FOR GOVERNMENT WORK!" That doesn't exist because 'Government work' is an example of excellence....it exists because you can never be fired from Government work, so meeting the minimum requirements earns you an A+ and really sucking earns you a C+...too many government workers earn a C+!

Posted by: charlie_drake74 | October 26, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

The same could be said for Corporations, but liberals like to villify them, except when they are taking their money. I hope no one shows up for these disgraceful rallies. This mocking just adds fuel to the tea pots, watch them boil over on Nov 2nd. See who gets the last laugh.

Posted by: csc71 | October 26, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

Government workers of all shapes and sizes consume wealth. They don't create wealth and never have. Outside of our brave men and women in uniform, government workers are uselessness personified. Wealth usurpers, many of which get rich off the backs of tax payers that actually work. They suck tax payers dry to fund their lavish pensions and health care programs the rest of us, the actual wealth creators, only dream of having. It's time to stock up on tar and feathers and show these government parasites what we really think of them. In my case, less than nothing.

Posted by: fishlore | October 26, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Of course it does. Fool!

The 1st thing that needs to be done is a reeduction in all federal employee pay by 1/2 % per month for the next 6 years. All contractors and advisors and consultants also All benifits with the exception of Military and law enforcement such as Border Patrol and immigration.
All elected members of Congress and all White House staff. They all suck suck suck suck suck.

Posted by: thenewyorktomesisacomicbook | October 26, 2010 9:06 AM | Report abuse

This could be big if they ship-in all the Welfare Queens. Maybe they could start their own party, the Millstone Party; you know, dead weight on the country. Time to tell some of these free-loaders to get a real job and produce something.

Posted by: CogsUSA | October 26, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

No one provided free transportation for Beck's 828 rally, Americans nationwide put their hard earned money out to attend. Now Oprah "you get a car" Winfrey is funding a comedian's attempt to ridicule those who attended 828?
Unbelievable!

Posted by: citizenjoe | October 26, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse

I think this rally is a bad idea. You're just drawing attention to the sniveling of a bunch of whiners. This "government employees suck" sentiment is just sour grapes. If these people want the benefits of a government job so badly, they can always join the Army. I hear they're hiring.

Posted by: enc40 | October 26, 2010 9:08 AM | Report abuse


News Alert:

The 'Government Doesn't Suck' march scheduled for Saturday, October 30, is expected to draw heavy protests from a government group led by Barney Frank's activist boyfriend. He is expected to point out that since Obama has been president, the US government “sucks” more that any government in this nation’s history. He is also expected to assert that Obama, in the name of diversity and fairness to “minorities”, has appointed more government employees that “suck” (both literally and figuratively) than any other president (see recent Supreme Court appointees as well as “Safe” School Czars).

Leftists and Progressives plan to “suck” in the poor and disenfranchised along with brainwashed mentally defective college students in their bids for re-election.

The fact that this Obamination could not have happened without the majority of voters being “suckers” will not be mentioned during this protest.

Posted by: bill7021 | October 26, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

If you got to do a "Government Doesn't SUCK" March any normal person then KNOWS it does!

Little Brown Shirt Gov Teet Suckers are Gone come November 3rd!

Posted by: harpotoo | October 26, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

The wealth/product produced by an expert public sector accountant is not different from the wealth/product produced by an expert private sector accountant.

Public sector employees are fired all the time, but only for cause. Many more are given one last chance to resign instead of being fired and take it.

All federal employees including members of Congress hired or elected since 1983 pay Soial Security taxes. So do most state and local government workers.

Posted by: SixOysters | October 26, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

If the government does not indeed suck could you at least not use a picture of federal workers sucking down free beers at a screw the pooch conference paid for by the taxpayers? Probably couldn't find one.

Posted by: melloomis | October 26, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

Government doesn't suck ? My ass. For anyone who has not been the subject of a corrupt Government where by special interests groups can and do have men arrested on bogus charges as I was in 1999, take a hint.
Government does suck, it is way over the board corrupt and lawyers should be barred from serving in public office along with extreme term limits

We are not supposed to be the Subjects of the Government. We own the Government and it is time to change the bathwater

Posted by: coxepropertymgmt | October 26, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

I think Marching for these people is good. Clearly they are the answer to all our problems. Those wonderful employees at the post office and the entertaining wonders down at AMTRAK. Good God, how could we make it without them. If we didn't have all these wonderful federal and state workers, where would we waste our money?

Posted by: fizzyox | October 26, 2010 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Government doesn't suck, it bites. I wish you rednecks would learn the difference.

Posted by: landfall23 | October 26, 2010 9:36 AM | Report abuse

Yes take to the government designed Internet to tell us all about how the government sucks.

No get in your car, designed to government specs and drive on the government roads protected by government police to your job, which probably only exists because the government has made a proper and safe business environment.

Posted by: frantaylor | October 26, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

Government employees don't suck? Ever try to deal with one of those obnoxious "public servants"? They usually move like slow motion in reverse. I don't mean to tar all of them with the same brush, but there are enough useless ones to make all look bad.

Posted by: jimsouders | October 26, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

we all know that gubmint sucks, it blows, it chokes too! i detest gubmint workers....all of them

Posted by: boomgoesbust | October 26, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

we all know that gubmint sucks, it blows, it chokes too! i detest gubmint workers....all of them

Posted by: boomgoesbust | October 26, 2010 9:48 AM | Report abuse

And I'm sure a pimp thinks prostitution doesn't suck (well, not THAT way).

Posted by: dcunning30 | October 26, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I find your lack of faith disturbing, those of who are bashing government employees. We are people, with families who come to work, and do our jobs to the best of our ability. We serve our country.

My job is to hire people and I take that job seriously. I try to recruit the best people for positions and encourage others to apply for jobs. I bring my "A" game to work every day and I am proud of what I do.

I earn my way, the same way I have my entire life. I am grateful for the job I have and very grateful to live in the U.S.

We are the faces of the U.S. government. Not political appointess or politicians. We are the people who make government work -- day in; day out.

Posted by: Kat0811 | October 26, 2010 9:56 AM | Report abuse

typical anti-intellectual, knuckle-dragging, parasites. Their clown rally is a direct reflection of their clownish thoughts and useless jobs

Posted by: Tyler520 | October 26, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

NOVEL IDEA:
Rather than go stand in a crowd (Million Man March, Glenn Beck, Jon Stewart, etc), why doesn't somebody HONESTLY assess why people think the Government SUCKS? Could it be that government workers are paid so much more PLUS receive far higher pension benefits? Could it be that the Congress passes legislation AGAINST the will of the people in procedurally underhanded ways? Could it be the politicians use money they don't have to buy votes they don't earn by enacting good and prudent policy? Could it be that politicians enter politics as broke lawyers (I realize there are exceptions) and leave congress as multi-millionaires? When we start being honest, maybe government won't suck anymore.

Posted by: stevens3 | October 26, 2010 10:05 AM | Report abuse

DON'T SUCK LIST- US MILITARY, DARPA, NSA, FBI,CIA, SECRET SERVICE, US MARSHALS, BORDER PATROL, FEDERAL CORRECTIONS, NASA.


Posted by: landfall23 | October 26, 2010 10:08 AM | Report abuse

One guy down the hole with a shovel and 5 guys up top watching....About says it all. A lot of FED jobs are tantamount to a Handout... When I ask who causes the most Pain in my life and who keeps me down, the answer is EASY... Not terrorists, not the Chinese, not the bankers, not the Bilderbergers....No It's The Federal Government ...HANDS DOWN. And YES Government does "SUCK".

Posted by: rabiddog9 | October 26, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Isn't it pathetic when the best that can be said about government is that it "doesn't suck". BTW, I would never use that word and even feel bad about using it in a quote. While not technically an obscentiy, I feel it is crude. Why not say something like, "Government could be worse.":)

Posted by: LuKuj | October 26, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

They deserve the reputation. My spouse works for the fed govt. There are people that make $70k with annual raises that do no real work and they will retire with a pension on my tax dollars. It took 3 years to build up the documentation to fire someone who was in her position before. Usually they just move the useless employees around so they don't get sued. The EEOC rules and public employee unions reward mediocrity. Cut the fat!

Posted by: trippin1 | October 26, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

I'm in the military, so I'm a federal employee. When I get out of the military, the last place I want to work is for the government. I believe our government is much to large and over reaching. Government workers should never outnumber private sector workers, unfortunatly, thats exactly what we have in the United States today. It is on this basis that i disagree with the organizers of this march.

Posted by: squideee | October 26, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

It's "jibes," not "jives"...

Posted by: javelle | October 26, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

prediction..turn-out will have direct correlation to # of buses Oprah,MTV and their ilk can fill with useful idiots, coerced employees and slackers who've always wanted to visit our nations' capitol and " burn a flag".With no regard for " actual" turnout--out of touch,shameless media outlets will misspeak/exxagerate/lie and claim hundreds of thousands attend where tens of thousands would be a stretch...the opposite of the way they covered prior DC rallies by 4.15.09 Tea Party/8.28ers and 9.12ers--I attended all 3-I know firsthand what hundred(s) of thousands look like-many flag-waving NASCAR events--can't wait to see the photos-may even attend myself -might learn something about my newly patriotic concerned citizens- Im sure there will be no violence, hatred or racism on display-according to the media-- those things happen only at right-wing/nut events like Tea Party rallies..

Posted by: cncrndctizn | October 26, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

"Who's the A-Hole in charge of regulating French Fries in restaurants?"

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Actually, I would like to see someone put in charge of french fries quality control. I am sick of getting crappy fries!!

Posted by: bmp246 | October 26, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Federal employees are like people in any other organization (you have the good, the bad and the ugly). The military is the best run and my favorite. After that, the people who run the various breaucratic organisms need help.

Posted by: helpfulhenry | October 26, 2010 10:46 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like the rally will be filled with spoiled punks looking for even more handouts in lieu of actual effort and determination.

Yes, the government DOES suck... and especially so when Obama and the democrats are in charge. Throw them out and throw them out next week! CHANGE IN 2010 and 2012!

Turn back the tide of left wing extremism which is destroying our nation!

Posted by: MikefromSaline | October 26, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

How proud you government employees must be. Instead of a 'Government is Awesome' rally, you have to settle for a 'Government doesn't Suck' rally. I guess the more appropriate 'Government isn't too terribly bad' rally didn't have that coooooool Jon Stewart ring too it.

Posted by: astralweeks | October 26, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Everything Dot.Gov can do, we can do better,
We can do everything better than you!!!
Signed, Your Local State Government.

There is no need for a large Federal Government when there are 50 State Governments that can do the job just fine.

Posted by: eteeuwe | October 26, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Question: Where in the Constitution does the US Gov have any authority to employ these executive depts? allow them to create legislation? Where is the authority to execute these "missions"? This Govt i.e.: YOU - ARE JOB-KILLERS. You regulate-to-death, confiscate ESTATES and over-tax our private sector so that jobs and companies leave the US and somehow this is happening with zero authority.
ANSWER: The Fed Gov has no Constitutional Authority to be in any business, local or state, has no legislative authority. Even tolerable functions like border security - they have failed. Now the Govt is seizing the private sector industries???? Give me a break END ALL govt depts not involved in defense - then wait a year.

Posted by: wdarwin | October 26, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Jon Stewart(Leibowitsz) and his co-hort Colbert are only interested in upping their ratings and name recognition. Who in their right mind believes our government is not too powerful,too centralized, invasive into every aspect of an individuals life and incompetent? Answer-those that are getting something from it-like welfare recipents and government union workers. We have become like France and the UK and like them we will suffer the same fate!!!!

Posted by: FTHOMASCAIN | October 26, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

What is more comical than a lieral rag based in D.C. promoting a march by the people most responsible for destroying our country!

No, our soldiers do not sit around all day looking at porn while dudking bullets, and IED'S. I love how those with the leasrt respect for our troops, use their heroism in a sad attempt to validate themselves!

Someone even used the LAUGHABLE term "PUBLIC SERVANTS." You probably missed the CONTEMPT shown for their constituents at Town Hall events, by these "PUBLIC SERVANTS!"

It is these "PUBLIC SERVANTS,and there greedy public service UNIONS that are bringing the problems seen in GREECE, SPAIN, and FRANCE to our country!

These blood suckers live off the work of the private sector which they are TRYING to destroy! They are so stupid that they don't understand that if they destroy the private sector there will be no one to live off!

These "servants" make on average double what workers in the private sector make, and have much better benefit packages! WHY DO THEY NEED UNIONS!!!! Oh, to shill for the corrupt Demo-RAT party, and use the dues to help buy elections for these radicals.


Posted by: musty | October 26, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Government may not suck, but they sure blow alot.... of money.

Posted by: termlimits | October 26, 2010 11:08 AM | Report abuse

I know many people who lost jobs in the private sector due to incompetence who have had long careers with the Social Security Administration. I have a dear relative in the Federal Government who is well paid and told me she doesn't know how to do her job. She has been in this job for 5 years, and she will not be trained and she will not be fired. Every 5 years or so, private companies downsize, but this seems to never happen with the Feds. Unions also prevent Feds from removing incompetent employees or demanding results. Women work in bedroom slippers at SSA. There must be some good Federal workers, but the system is designed so that terrible employees can have long careers with no risk of ever being fired.

Posted by: HerbF1 | October 26, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

This is a good example that we are reaching the tipping point of the majority of the people either working for or dependent an the government for money. Their self-preservation instinct clouds any rational assessment of themselves. Once we pass that tipping point we'll just have people voting for a quicker ruin and not the good of the country.

Posted by: svede1212 | October 26, 2010 11:18 AM | Report abuse

You produce nothing. PS YOU DO SUCK. MARCH OFF A CLIFF

Posted by: andydurk | October 26, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

"cool cats who work hard, listen to good music and watch Stewart's The Daily Show"? Really??? Do they think this helps?

I say get rid of about half of the govt. positions, and the remaining half, re-interview for them all.

Posted by: Anawynn13 | October 26, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

You produce nothing. PS YOU DO SUCK. MARCH OFF A CLIFF

Posted by: andydurk | October 26, 2010 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Government workers don't suck inasmuch as their unions do. This is nothing more that another attempt by unions to legitimize their existence. To dictate to their rank and file who to vote for and how to think. To take hard earned dues and throw it at corrupt politicians (Barny, Nancy, Harry, Barry et al). The federal government should be a "right to work" institution, free of the shackles of the union strangle hold. Remember government employees don't produce anything, except paper and higher tax rates.

Posted by: wagb83 | October 26, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Government workers don't suck inasmuch as their unions do. This is nothing more that another attempt by unions to legitimize their existence. To dictate to their rank and file who to vote for and how to think. To take hard earned dues and throw it at corrupt politicians (Barny, Nancy, Harry, Barry et al). The federal government should be a "right to work" institution, free of the shackles of the union strangle hold. Remember government employees don't produce anything, except paper and higher tax rates.

Posted by: wagb83 | October 26, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

One can't consider orginized criminals as a goverment, you're nothing more than thieving parasites.

Posted by: jvccin | October 26, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

Oh and one more thing: Senators have a staff of 30 plus special committee positions. Congressmen have 15+. It's a jobs program for job destruction in the private sector. Then in the nether lands of other government is the pick and chosen, payback and partisan group where by it is the nature of the beast to choose government i.e.: my job. Why would I vote against my job when I can kill all the jobs in the private sector first. Restore the Constitution, give power back to the States. People can then shop around for states. For example, Taxes in NY are very high. I want to help the poor and only keep 30 percent of my paycheck. Those who want to keep 70 percent will cheat like today. They don't hate the poor any less than you, it's just their money, not yours.

Posted by: wdarwin | October 26, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Just a hint, when you have to remind people that you "dont suck" it usually means you suck. Cool kids who talk about being cool are arrogant morons, not cool kids.

I just dont understand why the solution to cost cutting cant be downsizing the government, its what every other organization does when its customers don't think its product is worth the cost, and it cant afford to operate. I guess taxing works out better for them, but thats why they suck.

Posted by: paherndon | October 26, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Government workers don't suck. Their government employees unions SUCK! They should not be legal. Viva Ronald Reagan, and the way he handled the air-traffic controllers!

Posted by: RightStuff | October 26, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

This is too funny. Of course the gov't leeches suck. That's what leeches do. There are good apples, just as there were bright, conscientious, hard-working, good people in Hitler's organization, who helped the wounded to get good medical care, the trains to run on time, the planes not to crash.

Conscientious leeches are less likely to advance.

A leech can redeem itself many times over, by defeating the Globalist powers from within, by leaking sound information to the public, etc.

Posted by: Randolph3 | October 26, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: darbyohara | October 26, 2010 7:32 AM | "...please move to a forum which you can be identified as a REAL taxpayer, with your name, address and contact information... "

YOU FIRST. And throw in your fake social security number too.

Sheesh.

It's "jibes," not "jives"...
Posted by: javelle | October 26, 2010 10:31 AM

Thank you javelle for also noting that particular example of illiteracy at the WashPoo.

He probably pronounces pundits as pundints, as well.

Posted by: espresso | October 26, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

The problem the public has with government employees isn't the people who have these positions (for the most part, except when arrogant numbskulls say things like "we're busy running the country"), it's that these government positions exist in the first place and taxpayers are forced to pay for them.

The Constitution is very clear about what powers the people have granted to government and 90% of the work the government does was not authorised nor is it appreciated.

Posted by: atthemurph | October 26, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

When more of us non-federal employees are without jobs, you will be forced to accept less pay and benefits. At some point, you will have drained the rest of us of the ability to afford to maintain your over inflated paychecks. Count your blessings now because if the economy collapes (and that IS COMING), you will ALSO start losing your jobs! March on. So far, it appears that those that think they desearve more than anyone else are the marchers this weekend. I will be the first one to laugh when you are forced to take involuntary leave time, days off without pay, cuts in benefits, etc. when the "government" cannot find the money to hand to you. I sound like a bitter unemployed former office worker? You bet. The only consolation is that since I have no money to tax, I am not paying your bloated salary. Have you noticed the leaders of these things (on BOTH sides of the fence) are rich and really could care less what happens to YOU? Grow up. From the President down, it is trickle down con game and we the people ALL lose.

Posted by: Boomersheart | October 26, 2010 1:19 PM | Report abuse

Think about Contractors for a momemt. The U.S. Government pays a lot of your TAX DOLLARS to private companies to perform many jobs for Defense, Aerospace, Shipbuilding, Cafeteria, Cleaning staff, etc. Even the printing of postage stamps is done by private contractors. All of whom, without the Government and YOUR TAX DOLLARS, would lose a fair portion of their income, not alone jobs! It seems the U.S. Government and private industry are intertwined.

Posted by: casab | October 26, 2010 1:20 PM | Report abuse

When we non-federal employees are without jobs, you will be forced to accept less pay and benefits. At some point, you will have drained the rest of us of the ability to afford to maintain your bloated paychecks. Count your blessings now because if the economy collapes (and that IS COMING), you will ALSO start losing your jobs! March on. So far, it appears that those that think they desearve more than anyone else are the marchers this weekend. I will be the first one to laugh when you are forced to take involuntary leave time, days off without pay, cuts in benefits, etc. when the "government" cannot find the money to hand to you. I sound like a bitter unemployed former office worker? You bet. The only consolation is that since I have no money to tax, I am not paying your bloated salary. Have you noticed that, LEADERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE, are getting rich off these marches, and it is trickle down con game. From the oval office right down to the man on the street marching. You are being fooled.

Posted by: Boomersheart | October 26, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

When we non-federal employees are without jobs, you will be forced to accept less pay and benefits. At some point, you will have drained the rest of us of the ability to afford to maintain your bloated paychecks. Count your blessings now because if the economy collapes (and that IS COMING), you will ALSO start losing your jobs! March on. So far, it appears that those that think they desearve more than anyone else are the marchers this weekend. I will be the first one to laugh when you are forced to take involuntary leave time, days off without pay, cuts in benefits, etc. when the "government" cannot find the money to hand to you. I sound like a bitter unemployed former office worker? You bet. The only consolation is that since I have no money to tax, I am not paying your bloated salary.

Posted by: Boomersheart | October 26, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

When we non-federal employees are without jobs, you will be forced to accept less pay and benefits. At some point, you will have drained the rest of us of the ability to afford to maintain your bloated paychecks. Count your blessings now because if the economy collapes (and that IS COMING), you will ALSO start losing your jobs! March on. So far, it appears that those that think they desearve more than anyone else are the marchers this weekend. I will be the first one to laugh when you are forced to take involuntary leave time, days off without pay, cuts in benefits, etc. when the "government" cannot find the money to hand to you. I sound like a bitter unemployed former office worker? You bet. The only consolation is that since I have no money to tax, I am not paying your bloated salary.

Posted by: Boomersheart | October 26, 2010 1:23 PM | Report abuse

Think about Contractors for a moment. The U.S. Government pays private contractors many of your TAX DOLLARS for jobs ranging from the Defense department, Aerospace and shipbuilding,to cooking and cleaning and grounds maintenance. Even postage stamps are printed by a private contractor. Each of these contractors would be out of a sizable piece of change, as well as jobs, if the U.S. Government did not supply them with OUR TAX DOLLARS. It seems the Government and private industry are intertwined.

Posted by: casab | October 26, 2010 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Government workers don't suck inasmuch as their unions do. This is nothing more that another attempt by unions to legitimize their existence. To dictate to their rank and file who to vote for and how to think. To take hard earned dues and throw it at corrupt politicians (Barny, Nancy, Harry, Barry et al). The federal government should be a "right to work" institution, free of the shackles of the union strangle hold. Remember government employees don't produce anything, except paper and higher tax rates.

Posted by: wagb83 | October 26, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

We anticipate having a larger gathering at our "Government Swallows" rally.

Posted by: quinzJunk | October 26, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

I spent 20 years inside the Beltway supplying consultants to government offices. I know everything I need to know about government workers.

The problem is not with the human beings per se --- just like everyone else in society, there are good ones, lazy ones, smart ones and dumn ones. The problem is that the system --- the government itself --- fosters and encourages behavior that would NOT BE TOLERATED in private industry. Let's start with the basic motivation to join government --- it's true, some join because they want to serve the country and its citizens. Far too many, however, join solely because they understand it is basically job security for life. Those folks are very easy to pick out in any agency.

The other problem with the system is that there is no profit motive, and correspondingly no motivation to save the taxpayer's money. When you combine that factor, with a workforce just waiting out the clock for retirement, you have a problem. It explains why almost every government program is simply PLAGUED with inefficiency and waste.

Then you have public officials like Biden claiming that because the stimulus program "only" had several MILLION dollars of waste and fraud, it was a BIG success!!

Name for me any group of employees ANYWHERE that would be proud of that record, and angry that the public perceived them poorly.

Posted by: Curmudgeon10 | October 26, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The government isn't all bad, but most of it is. I can't paint everyone with the same brush, but I was in the military and since I retired, I've been both a corporate employee and consultant supporting the government for a total of over 40 years now.

Maybe I have higher expectations as a former Marine, but my experience is that the attitude, quality, skills, and motivation of a significant majority of GS employees and their leadership is very much substandard.

I don't know exactly why. The pay and benefits are generally better than their private sector counterparts--to a certain point.

My theory, and I could be wrong, is that government attracts people who are seeking a safe harbor. A job from which it is nearly impossible to be fired. They are risk adverse type personalities. They develop a union mentality and sense of tenure that doesn't seem to fit well with the idea of public service. All of this and more combines to eliminate incentive, motivation, the desire to achieve.

You can disagree, but I've had 40 years of dealing with them on nearly a daily basis; and that happens to be my opinion.

Personally, I prefer the challenge of making a living in a highly competitive private sector. Let your guard down, and the competition takes your market share. If you don't get the new product to market quickly and efficiently, the company suffers. I enjoy it.

I will say that a small percentage of the GS works were/are very good. In fact, they were so good that I had to wonder why they were not out in the private sector earning twice as much with better opportunities for talented people to excel.

The people working in government don't suck. The people who make the laws and the rules and regulations created by government not only suck, for the most part, but they harm our economy, lower our standard of living by over taxing, and slowly bleed away our freedoms.

Government is necessary, but small government works best.

Posted by: fmb501 | October 26, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I have worked inside the federal government.

Most of the employees are OK, but there is a a higher percentage of slackers, loafers, and democrat sympathizers than in a profit-making private sector business.

Lower management levels are relatively capable but have little real-world experience. Upper levels of management are unelected politicians and generally incompetent.

By definition, government jobs are bureaucratic - some of it is needed, most is not. Work that takes a day in the private sector, takes a week in government; work of a week in the private sector requires a month in government; what takes a month in the private sector takes a year in government. Government workers schedule meetings in order to schedule a meeting.

Most real work is accomplished by contractors who are treated like Turkish workers in Saudi Arabia. At least 30% of government jobs could be eliminated randomly tonight and nothing bad would happen.

Government jobs should either pay less than the private sector and offer job security or pay more than the private sector and offer no job security. Right now it is high pay and virtually no way to get fired in government.

This is why taxpayers think the government sucks.

Posted by: getjiggly1 | October 26, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

I once attended a lecture by a UVA professor on government workers and the Constitution. He said that government workers are "the front line of democracy" meaning that their responsibilities had to be carried out with all of the due process, equal protection, and other rights afforded citizens under the Constitution. I think this is why the government is perceived as working slowly. I think it takes a special kind of person to make government work a career, especially with the lack of appreciation I see on this site, and probably in everyday dealings.

Posted by: Phyllis7 | October 26, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if they had the same opinion of the government and government employees dusring the Bush Presidency? Maybe I am wrong, but I don't recall such a rally involving the same people.

Posted by: gbrooks2 | October 26, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Sorry but with all due respect, our Government does indeed SUCK. Federal Employees are not usually known for efficiency - their positions are redundant and they can't be fired. They make more money than their private industry brothers and sisters, get better benefits, get pensions, etc, etc. In short, they work half as hard to earn twice as much while ensuring a sound retirement. Not bad.

I don't blame Federal Employees - who wouldn't want a gig like that? Reminds me of a story.

Many years ago, 2 Eagles landed in a farm and were approached by the Farmer. The Farmer said, "Stay here and I will take care of you. I will put a roof over your head. I will feed you, ensure you have water, etc.". One Eagle said, "This aint for me and flew off" (Liberty). The other Eagle stayed with the Farmer (Security). Years passed and the first Eagle returned to the Farm to check on the eagle that stayed. What he found was a fat eagle that walked around all day eating and laying eggs for the Farmer - far to fat to fly. That second eagle, ladies and gentlemen, is what we now call a chicken.

That is what the Government does the best. Converts Eagles to Chickens. May the Chickens march in Washington....

Yes, government does actually suck - especially THIS one!

But in November, God Willing, we can begin removing some of problem.......

Posted by: lecjr5 | October 26, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

You can thank federal workers for keeping Eagles from extinction.

Posted by: Phyllis7 | October 26, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Government workers "are a lot of cool cats" who work hard, listen to good music and watch Stewart's "The Daily Show," "but that's all after they've spent a whole day keeping the country running," he said.
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Really? And just where do all these 'cool cats' get the money to 'keep the country running'? From US! The taxpayers; who REALLY are the ones who 'keep the country running'!
Typical progressive thinking; money just falls from the sky and they get to spend it.

Posted by: matinva | October 26, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

This is a joke right? I am a federal employee and this is just going to cause bad feelings with the public. The Government is to big and needs to be cut down. I have been working for over 30 in federal government and I see waste everyday. Most federal employees are hard workers and just trying to get through the red tape that Congress has forced on us. I have come to believe that Government needs a kick in the pants. When I started working I could do a lot more work on my own without the red tape and I got more thing accomplished. Now every time I try to get something done you have to fill out form after form and then try to explain to the other people what you need done, instead of just getting out of the way and letting me do my job. I see jobs that should have been abolished years ago just keep going and going and getting paid high salaries and they do almost nothing. Then I see other workers, just working there butts off trying to get work done and being stopped by workers that should not be there. Don't get me wrong I have enjoyed working here and would not trade it for anything but the last few years have just been harder and harder to get things done. If you hire me to do a job just let me do it and get out the way. I know there are a lot of us in Government but we just keep our mouths shut because we are close to retirement and do not want to rock the boat.

Posted by: nf001crawfish | October 26, 2010 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Let me see: the rule of law is nearly void when it comes to Wall Street and the Banksters, rampant fraud is legitimized because government workers are not arresting anyone, and the best these clowns can do is have a 'government doesn't suck' march? FAIL.

"Go straight to hell, all you government personnel, living very well in that big white house up on the hill." --Tesla

Posted by: Zetetic1 | October 26, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

Not all of em suck, the rest of em blow...

Posted by: oildad | October 26, 2010 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Of course the government employees will be there since they make far more than the regular John Doe American! The government is sucking the good life out of the rest of us Americans. BTW, they cannot be really expecting too many participants when they say they are going to march from one end of the mall to the other. When Beck had his "Restore America" you could not have walked anywhere because the crown was so big and totally filled the mall!

Posted by: granny1 | October 26, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Yeah..but...government DOES suck.

Posted by: justabil | October 26, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Granny1 (October 26, 6:53 pm) wrote:

When Beck had his "Restore America" you could not have walked anywhere because the crown was so big and totally filled the mall!
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Sounds like someone wasn't there! I was, and while there were over 100,000 people there, it didn't come close to filling the whole Mall. Not even half of it. And the area that was filled, in front of the Lincoln Memorial, was by the Reflecting Pool--had people been in an open, grassy area of the Mall, the crowd wouldn't have stretched nearly as far.

There were a lot of people at Beck's rally. It's terrifying, but it's truth. But comments like this are pure fiction.

In fact, I can think of just one recent event that filled the whole Mall: Obama's Inauguration. Granny1 and the other Tea Party haters commenting here may not like it, but that's just a fact.

Posted by: matt731 | October 26, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

Congrats to Steve and others who are coming out to this. The fact that you've pissed off some of the trolls on this message board simply shows that you're doing something right. I know a lot of government workers, and they bust their butts for long hours to support services and infrastructure that people in this country--including many of those posting here, I'm sure--use day in and day out.

Haters, you can keep hating, but I do hope you'll take a breath and look at your own words.

Posted by: matt731 | October 26, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Enjoy your 'government doesn't suck' rally. When I was active duty Navy and had to work alonside civilians it was a nightmare. They behaved as if they were my boss and any sign of not kissing their behind was met with calls to the commanders. They are almost never fired, even if they don't do their job. They get about six weeks of vacation each year (especially the GS 12 and above) They get sick leave, free health care, and retirement at age 55. While about half are professional, the other half DO suck.

Posted by: TrudyandWaltersmom | October 26, 2010 9:09 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry but I disagree. The government, and the backbone of the government-it's drone "worker" bees-really do suck. If you would all leave yours jobs the monster would die and we could begin healing. The American people are too dazed to revolt, and suppressed even if they did-by you, "the government". One small percentage-you-could do it all themselves.

Posted by: Zhuaneo | October 26, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

"we're cool people who listen to cool music and watch the daily show after we're done running the country" !!!

ARE YOU SERIOUS? We only need a national defense and a court system.
KILLING millions of maggots like you would save us billions of OUR money.

Posted by: demliars | October 26, 2010 9:31 PM | Report abuse

Workers who belong to AFSCME should side with those who want smaller government. You see, when the public sector is bigger than the private sector that pays your wages, who will secure your pension? Those "crazy" Tea Partiers are protecting your retirement more than your union bosses.

Unfortunately, many Americans, when asked "Who pays you?", respond with "The government." They don't get that it's the waitress, the owner of the dry cleaner, the boutique owner, the garbage man or the low-level manager. The taxpayers will secure your future, so careful not to bite the hand feeds you.

Posted by: pjean | October 26, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

I believe federal government employees' brains tend undergo a type of degeneration which results in a loss of conscience, integrity, empathy, courage, and discernment.

Posted by: wbeattymd | October 26, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

After reading the comments from the government workers, it is obvious that they do not think that they suck. I will give them the benefit of the doubt. However, I wish that they would prove that they don't suck by starting their own businesses and contributing to the private sector. The higher the ratio of private to public workers, the better off the economy.

Posted by: dhead180 | October 26, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

The truth is that the silent, tired, vast majority of government workers across this country diligently working at their desk all day to finish that slice of cake from that day's birthday party ruin it for the two people actually trying to make government work better.

The reality is if you want government to work better, it they shouldn't work at all. It probably would cost us all less to just pay them to stay at home and not talk to each other or do anything.

Posted by: DCisCrap | October 26, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

The sad part is that many govt workers really believe that
they are "keeping the country running" and that this country is too complicated for ordinary people, who are too dumb or politically naive, to govern themselves.

Posted by: budn | October 26, 2010 11:27 PM | Report abuse

Collectively the government couldn’t find its own a$$ if you gave it a map and a flashlight. That is the most compelling reason why 9/11 was not; let me repeat that, NOT an inside job.

Even if you were to consider one of the areas where the U.S. government does do a good job, the military, please note they do this job with all privately manufactured and designed weapons. Not a single weapons system is developed by the government they only pay the private sector to provide what they want. Additionally the largest reason that they can perform this one function of government is the dedication that military personnel bring to the table, a level of dedication you would be hard pressed to locate anywhere else in the government.

Posted by: mogar | October 26, 2010 11:53 PM | Report abuse

We should put a finer point on this...It is not so much, in this case, that "government sucks" as it is that the SEIU sucks...and that applies to the SEIU leadership and union fat cats.

Posted by: wallace1303 | October 27, 2010 3:10 AM | Report abuse

NASA engineers have a great term for government workers. The acronym is KIBO. A take-off from the use of the term KIBO for a latrine (or the Japanese Space Station Lab.) It stands for Knowledge In - BS out. It is what happens when a bunch of smart people are placed in a system designed by politicrats. It sounds like the young workers marching to their own drummer are confused. They think they are keeping the country running when all they are really doing is making heat doing critical jobs that need not be done in the first place. Here is my challenge to them Quit - believe me, no one will notice.

Posted by: busseja | October 27, 2010 3:39 AM | Report abuse

"Washington Post poll that revealed widespread negative perceptions of federal workers." Strike the word 'workers' and replace with 'employees'. Big difference.
2010/2012 No liberals. No Exceptions. Not ever.

Posted by: 1911a1 | October 27, 2010 8:32 AM | Report abuse

Jon Stewart leads the "Government must continue to give us stuff or We'll raise Hell!" rally!

Posted by: STomPayne | October 27, 2010 8:46 AM | Report abuse

99% of federal employees could lose their jobs and nobody would notice. These lazy parasites are a tremendous drain on the productive segments of society. If they loved their country, they would quit their parasitic federal jobs and work in the private sector where they could contribute something meaningful to society instead of mooching off it.

Posted by: TruthWins | October 27, 2010 8:59 AM | Report abuse

These people are essentially saying they love bureaucracy. That's hardly an inspiring position to take. Imagine--I love big government, bureaucratic bloat, mass society--doesn't that just make you want to get off your duff and join this gathering? The whole message seems somehow anti-liberal, at least in the classical sense. One could say all this trust in government is touching, an affirmation that your betters really will do right by you, but it's hard to believe such a message resonates with young people. Their grandparents, maybe. Sure seems the opposite of what the 'sixties were all about, but maybe those sixties rebels have turned into today's Tea-party-ers? Color me puzzled.

Posted by: mpmills | October 27, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

The fact of the matter is that our government DOES suck.

Posted by: washedupneverbeens | October 27, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

If ya got to TRY and convince people it DOESN'T SUCK, obviously it DOES!

Posted by: harpotoo | October 27, 2010 9:12 AM | Report abuse

There are two reasons you should not say that government workers are bad: 1) They can get back at you since they are in control of so much that you want; and 2) Very soon we will all be government workers! We who aren't yet working directly for the government are just envious, especially of all the age-55 pensioners comfortably retired from their government jobs!

But seriously, I don't demonize individuals who try to do their jobs. But claiming that "government is good" is wrongheaded. I wish to change our current system where people think government is supposed to address every discomfort. Government is a necessary evil and we should all do our best to limit it.

Posted by: Arkanlaw | October 27, 2010 9:14 AM | Report abuse

Federal employees are public parasites, They suck like leeches of the industry of producers and creators.

Should services be provided by the barrel of a gun? If you answer no, then you believe that government employees suck.

If you believe services should be provided by the barrel of a gun, You are a violent sociopath. (The criteria for the sociopath's disorder requires an ongoing disregard for the rights of others. Which government employees all exhibit.)

Government workers should quit their jobs and find honest employment. They won't because they don't care how they earn a living or who they hurt to make money.

Posted by: thinkliberty | October 27, 2010 9:21 AM | Report abuse

Unless these government workers are getting paid overtime to march in their "We Don't Suck" parade, I don't expect to see more than a handful turn out.

Posted by: lisamc31 | October 27, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Are they getting paid overtime? ;-)

Posted by: lisamc31 | October 27, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

Jon Stewart is guilty of false advertising: 'Government Doesn't Suck' march planned. This is like saying the sky is not blue or water is not wet.

The government has sucked really bad for the last ten years - under both Bush and Obama. Clinton had a preference for interns.

Posted by: alance | October 27, 2010 9:28 AM | Report abuse

This is so PATHETIC its comical, these people should be walking under a banner that says "WE get free stuff from suckers who work and its GREAT". This govt. has to be slashed by 50%!!!!

Posted by: xerakis | October 27, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Problem is... government DOES SUCK... I would be ashamed to work for the government... in most cases they are do-nothing, lazy bureaucrats who make twice as much money as they should. It's ALL coming to a screeching halt VERY soon when the economy collapses and their fat cat pay checks have NO value. I'm looking forward to the wailing and grinding of teeth.

Posted by: 37375tn | October 27, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

It's completely understandable that corporatist/government shill, Jon Stewart, would want to protect his fellow government workers. However, his efforts at obfuscation and deflection do nothing to alter the truth of the matter. He and his fellow bootlicker Colbert are the antithesis of every principle upon which this Republic was founded. We won't be hoodwinked by this fraud.

Posted by: finn43 | October 27, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

“Government workers … work hard, listen to good music and watch Stewart’s “The Daily Show,””

I’m sure the same could be said of some child molesters, that still doesn’t change my opinion of them.


Posted by: dave1563 | October 27, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

They're right: the govt does just suck.
It SUCKS so freakin bad that it draws the ire and disgust of 75% of the nation.

Govt sucks the money out of our pockets.
Govt sucks the life out of the economy.
Govt sucks the initiative out of business.
Govt sucks in every way, shape, and form.

And then these people say they are busy all day making sure the country runs? Sorry, but 90% of the govt can disappear tomorrow and the only thing anybody would notice is how must more enjoyable life has become.

The govt has basically 2 responsibilities:
.. 1) Defense (military, police, fire), and
.. 2) GO AWAY AND LEAVE US ALONE.

This Nov 2 we are going to stress that second responsibility.

Posted by: uli_wertlos | October 27, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Government workers may or may not 'suck' but clearly THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM AT EVERY LEVEL.

Posted by: anonomoose | October 27, 2010 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Government workers may or may not 'suck' but clearly THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM AT EVERY LEVEL.

Posted by: anonomoose | October 27, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Government workers may or may not 'suck' but clearly THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM AT EVERY LEVEL.

Posted by: anonomoose | October 27, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Government workers may or may not 'suck' but clearly THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM AT EVERY LEVEL.

Posted by: anonomoose | October 27, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Government workers may or may not 'suck' but clearly THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM AT EVERY LEVEL.

Posted by: anonomoose | October 27, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Government workers may or may not 'suck' but clearly THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM AT EVERY LEVEL.

Posted by: anonomoose | October 27, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Government workers may or may not 'suck' but clearly THERE ARE TOO MANY OF THEM AT EVERY LEVEL.

Posted by: anonomoose | October 27, 2010 10:19 AM | Report abuse

It's not that government workers don't work hard. That's not the issue. The gargantuan, inefficient system itself is the problem. Anyone who has spent an entire afternoon on the phone with any government agency, hearing the repeated words "Please don't hang up...your call is very important to us.... knows what I'm talking about.

Posted by: RossOdom | October 27, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I hope they take a paid "personal day" to attend the rally so that taxpayers can pay a public servant to protest againt the taxpayers best interest.

Posted by: PabloKoh | October 27, 2010 10:42 AM | Report abuse

4,430,000 total Federal Employees

$150 Billion in Salary

3.518 Trillion total Budget, 1.4T deficit.

Each federal employee costs the taxpayers $316,027 in debt plus interest on the debt.

Posted by: katorga | October 27, 2010 11:02 AM | Report abuse

"Government employees don't suck". Wow, if that isn't bait, I don't know what is. Wake up people. Stop falling into their trap. Don't stoop to their level. Of course all government workers don't suck, but Stewart and his ilk want to put words in peoples' mouths. Well, this free thinker is not taking the bait. Agreed, all government employees don't "suck". ...But big government DOES. The bigger a government, the more a country suffers: People have fewer freedoms, government has more power, taxes rise, there is more red tape, and people are told how they should think (ie. homeschooling is not an acceptable form of education). Bottom line: the bigger the government, the bigger the corruption. More government = more corruption at (literally) our expense. Yes, there are other problems on society like lawyers and lobbyists. Ethics in this country is a problem. Greed is a problem. And because of this fact, I have no interest in giving more power to those who make laws over us. Limited government puts freedom back in the hands of the people regarding how they choose to spend their hard earned money, how they choose to protect themselves, how they choose to pray, how they choose to raise their children - ie. homeschooling, vaccinating, etc. Of course children should be protected from abusive parents. I am not suggesting otherwise. (The verdict is out on whether or not teaching the “entitlement mentality” is considered abusive... that was a joke). People should decide these things for themselves. Our Founding Fathers knew this. That is why they put the Bill of Rights into the Constitution. These are our God given rights, as they saw it. This is not Europe and I don't want it to be. I am for limited government, limited spending, and limited government interference. Period. It irks me that these government workers are attempting to paint me in a corner by putting words in my mouth. People are people. Just as in the private sector, I'm sure there are government workers who work hard and those who don't. THAT is NOT the issue. By combining words like “government workers” and “suck” they are attempting to distract us from the real issue. The issue is not how hard government workers work. The issue is: HOW MANY GOVERNMENT WORKERS DO WE NEED? Look around...... WE DON'T NEED MORE GOVERNMENT JOBS! We don't need more government expansion. In fact, the exact opposite is true. Government jobs need to shrink. We need to remember that the Founding Fathers set up this government to work for us. The more government workers there are, the more “we the people” end up working for them: the government. That is NOT how this country was designed to work. Limited government and common sense were at the core of this great country. Let us never forget. And let us also remember that greed and ethics are taught in the home. What are we teaching our children? How we raise our children determines the future.

Posted by: FreeThinker4-ever | October 27, 2010 11:12 AM | Report abuse

What do government employees prevent you from doing?

Buying wine through the mail in some states.
Buying a shower head that produces more than 1 ½ gallons of water per minute.
Buying a toilet that uses more than 1 ½ gallons of water per flush.
Buying or drinking alcohol or tobacco if you are under a certain age.
Smoking tobacco on private property (restaurants)
Drinking alcohol on public property without their permission.
Owning certain kinds of property (banned or restricted substances)
Own or carry a gun without their permission.
Getting married without their permission.
Working at certain jobs without their permission.
Driving a car, or many vehicles, without their permission.
Putting an addition on your own house without their permission.
Renting out part of your own house without their permission.
Swimming at the beach without their permission.
Inviting a foreign friend to visit you without their permission.
Hiring a foreigner to work for your business without their permission.

Can you think of any more things they stop you from doing that you think you have a right to do?

Posted by: jackdoitcrawford | October 27, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

You know the government is in trouble when pro-government groups have to put together a "Government Doesn't Suck" rally to counter what everyone who doesn't work for the government but has to deal with the government knows. This government is broken. It is too big, too expensive, too bloated and confused with doing what it really shouldn't be doing to do well what it should. Several agencies should be abolished outright starting with the Departments of Energy and Education.

Posted by: texas58 | October 27, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

What credibility does Jon Stewart Have to say that government dosen't suck? Since when do liberal leftist love their government leaders. Translation: he is saying Obama dosen't suck! Which well all know to be false!

Posted by: skihillsandy | October 27, 2010 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I find it interesting that nearly all defendants of the feds are feds. Just like all oversight of feds are feds. Just like feds are investigated by feds.

The rest of us - the increasingly unemployed are being ridiculed for defending this country from this bunch of thieves. You read their comments and you want to feel sad for them - until you go outside their federal offices and see plumes of opulence. Wake up feds - you may want to see your selves as victims, but you live/work in the only city that has an economy. You all SUCKED the financial resources from everywhere else. So much so that you now have to use massive amounts of debt to download porn.

Sorry I don't buy your sorry stories when you go shopping at Macy's, Nordstroms and Lord and Taylor. We barely can make it in Wal-Mart. There are no Wal-Marts in DC guys! And you want us to believe you are in such sorry states. You eat $20 lunches regularly for god's sake!

Posted by: Fredrick1 | October 27, 2010 12:39 PM | Report abuse

They have set the bar at 200,000 for the march. Good thing they have the media to say that will be the number that show up. This march is on a weekend. These guys are so lazy, I doubt they will even draw 50,000.

And if they do, it is just like they do at their desks. They impede progress on the part of the taxpayer and they will impede progress of the visitors and private sector workers who need to make a living while this mass gets in the way on the mall.

Please just stay home. Truly help us out. We have more important things to do then to see your constant self glorification and self interest. If you want to impress us, just do your work.

Plus if your Union march was any indication, you will likely be too lazy to pick up your mess you leave behind. Who will do that, your fellow feds that work for the Nat Park. Hey it is their job isn't it? Not you pompous office "workers".

Posted by: Fredrick1 | October 27, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

They have set the bar at 200,000 for the march. Good thing they have the media to say that will be the number that show up. This march is on a weekend. These guys are so lazy, I doubt they will even draw 50,000.

And if they do, it is just like they do at their desks. They impede progress on the part of the taxpayer and they will impede progress of the visitors and private sector workers who need to make a living while this mass gets in the way on the mall.

Please just stay home. Truly help us out. We have more important things to do then to see your constant self glorification and self interest. If you want to impress us, just do your work.

Plus if your Union march was any indication, you will likely be too lazy to pick up your mess you leave behind. Who will do that, your fellow feds that work for the Nat Park. Hey it is their job isn't it? Not you pompous office "workers".

Posted by: Fredrick1 | October 27, 2010 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Last February we had a snow storm. Because DC city public workers did not want to pave roads and because VA and MD public employees did not want to plow snow, only feds got days off - 4 of them. Monday - Thursday. They had the previous weekend. When they were told to go back to work, nearly all the "work"force took a vacation day. They then had the next weekend. That following Monday was a federal holiday. In total the entire Washington DC federal "work"force had 10 days off from "work". Someone said that 99% of the feds could not show up to work and no one would notice. Well in February we did not notice - and the thieves got away with being paid an average of $450 daily pay for four days - plus a free $450 for their holiday. In total we not noticing their "importance" cost us $2,250.

See why we are angry?

Posted by: Fredrick1 | October 27, 2010 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Last February we had a snow storm. Because DC city public workers did not want to pave roads and because VA and MD public employees did not want to plow snow, only feds got days off - 4 of them. Monday - Thursday. They had the previous weekend. When they were told to go back to work, nearly all the "work"force took a vacation day. They then had the next weekend. That following Monday was a federal holiday. In total the entire Washington DC federal "work"force had 10 days off from "work". Someone said that 99% of the feds could not show up to work and no one would notice. Well in February we did not notice - and the thieves got away with being paid an average of $450 daily pay for four days - plus a free $450 for their holiday. In total we not noticing their "importance" cost us $2,250.

See why we are angry?

Posted by: Fredrick1 | October 27, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse


Most of the “they suck” crowd posting here are probably welfare cases typing their posts while eating a piece of government issued cheese.

Posted by: nuke41 | October 27, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

The "Government Doesn't Suck March"??

Seriously, what is WRONG with you Libs?

Even I can admit that Washington D.C. is an inept, corrupt cesspool of priviliges, entitlements and shady dealings, and that BOTH parties are to blame.

Step One in solving a problem is admitting there IS a problem. Anybody who can look at our current Federal government and think it's all A-O.K., hunky-dory, tip-top shape has seriously got a screw loose.

Tea Party candidates are our last, best hope. They will bring honesty, accountability, real-life experience and - most of all - integrity to the job. They will enact changes then GET OUT and let someone else in. No staying on in Washington for 10, 20 or 30 years, gorging at the taxpayer trough like most of the D.C. elites.

Posted by: QuineGeology | October 27, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

"Most of the “they suck” crowd posting here are probably welfare cases typing their posts while eating a piece of government issued cheese."

These guys are hoping we fail in our attempt to significantly reduce federal employee numbers in the same way federal employees do. Both welfare group SUCKS off the tax payer. The guys eating cheese are just smarter than feds - they get to stay home for their welfare check - feds have to go to a building and do an acting job.

Posted by: Fredrick1 | October 27, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

50% of Americans pay no Federal Income Tax. 10% work for the government. So for all you math challenged out there, that means that 40% are paying for 60%. That is not sustainable. Can we start a union of tax payers as a counterweight to the AFGE? I mean considering that tax payers pay for the AFGE and all... I think it would work more effectively in reigning government spending than the current electoral process.

Government is the problem. Capital formation drives job growth and wealth creation. NOT the government. Our economy has not faced this much regulatory uncertainty in 3 decades. Why on earth do you think companies aren't hiring? B/c hiring is an "investment", and if one is massively uncertain about what future regulation and taxation will look like, one is beyond reluctant to "invest" in that regime.

Posted by: CarrizoCrazy | October 27, 2010 1:41 PM | Report abuse

" . . . but that's all after they've spent a whole day keeping the country running"

If people actually believe this than we are finished.

Posted by: jwahala | October 27, 2010 1:52 PM | Report abuse

1.) DEFENSE AND PROTECTION OF AMERICAN CITIZENS (Military, Police, Fire, etc.)
2.) LAWS AND JUSTICE SYSTEM (Courts, judges, creating and upholding laws, etc.)
3.) INFRASTRUCTURE (Viable roads, bridges, utilities, power grid, etc.)

ANYTHING ELSE IS OVERSTEPPING, WASTEFUL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

DON'T TREAD ON ME

Posted by: QuineGeology | October 27, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

1.) DEFENSE AND PROTECTION OF AMERICAN CITIZENS (Military, Police, Fire, etc.)
2.) LAWS AND JUSTICE SYSTEM (Courts, judges, creating and upholding laws, etc.)
3.) INFRASTRUCTURE (Viable roads, bridges, utilities, power grid, etc.)

ANYTHING ELSE IS OVERSTEPPING, WASTEFUL AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

DON'T TREAD ON ME

Posted by: QuineGeology | October 27, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Fredrick1

"Most of the “they suck” crowd posting here are probably welfare cases typing their posts while eating a piece of government issued cheese."

These guys are hoping we fail in our attempt to significantly reduce federal employee numbers in the same way federal employees do. Both welfare group SUCKS off the tax payer. The guys eating cheese are just smarter than feds - they get to stay home for their welfare check - feds have to go to a building and do an acting job.

===========================

Thanks for proving my point. I hope you have some crackers to go with your government cheese.

Posted by: nuke41 | October 27, 2010 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, the liberals dems are so articulate....

Posted by: cindinator | October 27, 2010 2:12 PM | Report abuse

Sure, not all government employees suck, but certainly government policies in all areas cause government employees to suck!

As far as suckiness, let's start by cutting these departments at every agency:

1. EEO office in every agency
2. On-site union reps - government agencies pay these people $100K to represent other gov't employees - that's it!
3. Anyone with the title "Acting Associate Deputy Secretary" or "Assistant Deputy Associate Secretary" has a reduntantly repetitive superfluous position, usually a GS 14 or 15.

Posted by: billlev613 | October 27, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

To say that government sucks - or doesn't suck - is to actually assume they DO something.

Imagine a world without the DMV. Who would notice? No auto fees, no waiting in lines, no ugly buildings.

Imagine a world without the post office. Big deal. I have a cel phone and e-mail to connect with people, and there's FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc. for expedient delivery of goods.

Imagine a world without social services. Horrors - - people would actually have to WORK for a living. I wouldn't have to stand in line at the grocery store, waiting while some ghetto mom with hair extensions and bling counts out her food stamps.

Imagine a world without the Department of Education. Parents would receive vouchers and actually have the FREEDOM to send their children to the PRIVATE SCHOOL of their CHOICE. No more failing, bloated, union-controlled public schools. No more $600,000-a-year administrator jobs.

This is just a start.... I could go on and on.

Posted by: QuineGeology | October 27, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

"As far as suckiness, let's start by cutting these departments at every agency:

1. EEO office in every agency
2. On-site union reps - government agencies pay these people $100K to represent other gov't employees - that's it!
3. Anyone with the title "Acting Associate Deputy Secretary" or "Assistant Deputy Associate Secretary" has a reduntantly repetitive superfluous position, usually a GS 14 or 15."

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Wont even scratch the surface. We are going into debt by $4 billion a day. We are paying the DoD budget ($700 billion) in interest each year. We need to cut over a trillion a year in spending. There is not enough feds to let go that could reach that. Cuts need to be much - much deeper.

Posted by: Fredrick1 | October 27, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

That is we need to cut over a trillion just to stop going into debt any deeper.

We need to make additional cuts to start paying off the $15 trillion in principal.

The feds have spent up into oblivion. To get back into the black means getting rid of the problem - the federal government.

Posted by: Fredrick1 | October 27, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

ECONOMIZE THE GOVERNMENT, THAT'S NOT EVIL

Everywhere I turn, a government agency or bureaucrat is there, telling me how to ECONOMIZE my life and be more EFFICIENT. Often the beaurocrat stands there with the power to jail me if don't comply. Recently the government beaurocrats even tell me that CO2 i.e. breathing will have to be economized too.

All this while these wonderful beaurocrats are constantly bloating (their budgets, their retirements, their numbers, their perks).

WELL HERE IS AN IDEA

Economize the government. Each year just reduce the size of non-defense spending AND reduce the size of federally mandated spending until the budget balances. Establish a list of priorities and just defund that which is at the bottom of the list. JUST THE SAME WAY that all of the rest of us individuals, cities and states do it.

Posted by: binthere222 | October 27, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

"but that's all after they've spent a whole day keeping the country running", Ressler said.

Typical government worker delusion. You don't keep "the country" running. You keep the "Condo Association" running. That's all the government is. The people as a whole keep "the country" running. Your job is to keep the lawns mowed and the place painted. Many of us have an HOA or Condo Assoc or Property Management firm that takes care of where we live. They perform a necessary function. But they don't think that they "run" the lives of everyone in the place.

If every employee in my HOA had lifetime employment with salary and benefits far above market rates, with fantastic pension and health insurance guaranteed by the HOA residents instead of their own savings, and if many of them did jobs that didn't need doing, and then ignored tasks that were actually important, and then showed the arrogance of of Mr Ressler, they would be government employees and they would suck indeed.

Posted by: IsaacBickerstaff | October 27, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

"but that's all after they've spent a whole day keeping the country running", Ressler said.

Typical government worker delusion. You don't keep "the country" running. You keep the "Condo Association" running. That's all the government is. The people as a whole keep "the country" running. Your job is to keep the lawns mowed and the place painted. Many of us have an HOA or Condo Assoc or Property Management firm that takes care of where we live. They perform a necessary function. But they don't think that they "run" the lives of everyone in the place.

If every employee in my HOA had lifetime employment with salary and benefits far above market rates, with fantastic pension and health insurance guaranteed by the HOA residents instead of their own savings, and if many of them did jobs that didn't need doing, and then ignored tasks that were actually important, and then showed the arrogance of of Mr Ressler, they would be government employees and they would suck indeed.

Posted by: IsaacBickerstaff | October 27, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

What a pitiful slogan! This represents the literacy of the average member of the welfare state.

Posted by: beck2448 | October 27, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

What a pitiful slogan! This represents the literacy of the average member of the welfare state.

Posted by: beck2448 | October 27, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

What great marketing skills. Who thought this up? Just the name of the march proves government sucks.
Let's see if these mental lightweights ran the private sector:
McDonalds--we don't crap in our burgers.
American Airlines--sometimes we crash, but what are the odds?
Ford Motor Company--okay, so we suck but not as bad as people say.
Nixon--I am not a crook.

Posted by: doctorjoe1 | October 27, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

What a pitiful slogan! This represents the literacy of the average member of the welfare state.

Posted by: beck2448 | October 27, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

This represents nothing but mockery and ridicule. It perfectly characterizes the self indulgent smugness and arrogance of the liberal mind.

Posted by: chaffer | October 27, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Yes, for Obama voters, who are getting welfare, section 8, food stamps, free housing, free medical, and a lifetime guarantee of never having to work, government doesn't suck.

Posted by: WilliamPenn | October 27, 2010 7:03 PM | Report abuse

The Government doesn't suck?? I will try to remember that when I go to the DMV and after waiting in line for an hour come to the window only to have the clerk with the rather larger derriere walking ever so slowly away and wadding back with my forms tell me that "it is break time, I will be back in half an hour"... Or how about the post office or try talking to someone at the IRS or God forbid you should have to travel by AmTrak. This is not a dig at the Military, Fire or Police Forces, or those few government agencies that actually do their job to protect us. I and anyone who has to suffer being made to feel indignant by some desk jockey who knows they cannot be fired and just go about doing a half witted government job..And these government Klods and Klodnies sit and wonder why people prefer e-mail and FedEx to the post office, AAA to standing in line to the DMV, and a Ford to a Government Motors car (you know that story about GM employees drinking at lunch time.) We know the private sector can get it done cheaper, faster and competently..
And before you stringers and other government clowns and Obama butt kissers answer to this know this we are getting very, very sick of this so think carefully before you answer...

Posted by: jaysun1 | October 27, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Big Brother doesn't suck? This is right out of the pages of 1984. And lets not forget...

"And it seems to me perfectly in the cards that there will be within the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing … a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda, brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods."

-- Aldous Huxley, 1959

I was sitting on a bus the other day listening to a conversation with 5 college students. The topic was about what their psychiatrists diagnosed them with and what kind of drugs they were given. It blew my mind! I bet they will be at this Government Doesn't Suck March.
Stupid sheeple will follow their masters right off the cliff.

Posted by: XPIOLT | October 28, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

The number of employees one manages is part of the fiefdom which government supervisors boast about. The other is the amount of money in their budgets. The mindsets of "spend it or lose it" and "more subordinates equal more power" has added significantly to the mess we find ourselves in today.

England, with about 15% of our population, is summarily firing 500,000 government employees. Some basic math extrapolates to over 3,000,000 if applied to the US. Let the firing begin.

Posted by: Bcamp55 | October 28, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Government workers don't suck per se, they (as a rule) are just unionized to the point that they are grossly overpaid.

Posted by: williams3061 | October 28, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6BJ3CvPLhs

They took the real one off youtube :(

Posted by: JustinMcC | October 28, 2010 11:52 PM | Report abuse

Government jobs suck money from people who actually contribute to the GDP. Any job that requires taxpayer dollars to exist should not be considered when politicians think they've 'created jobs'. They've simply rerouted more money from productive citizens.

Posted by: FreeTexan | October 29, 2010 12:03 AM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHA - so funny that federal employees think the issue is whether or not they suck.

The real issue is whether or not anyone can possibly respect someone who would go to work for the most evil organization in the history of the planet.

Of course federal employees suck, but they're also evil. It's important to remember both factors when deciding whether or not to permit our children to mingle with them.

Posted by: postfactworld | October 29, 2010 1:01 AM | Report abuse

Sorry Fed Employees: but the government does suck .. and so do you. True, there may be a small handful of dedicated works who do a good job. But the overwhelming majority are nothing but bloodsucking leaches who take from the private sector, doing their best (via unions) to sap all they can for their pensions and health care. The system is so horribly corrupt, that public "servants" have now become the public masters, as we tax-payers are fed up. So all the pro-government PR won't work ... you still suck. And taxpayers should not rest until the number of Federal employees is cut by 70%, and all pensions and benefits 100% eliminated.

Posted by: SFreason | October 29, 2010 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Wake up America...the Federal Government is WAY TO BIG! The Federal Government is pushing out small business and this needs to STOP! We need to cut the Federal Government by atleast 50%! The American dream is slipping further and further away from us private citizens! March all you want it doesn't change the fact that the Federal Government is corrupt, and yes, it certainly does SUCK!

Posted by: WarmSunshine | October 29, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

I would say that most government employees do, in fact, suck.

However, it depends on their job. Those working in the Departments of National Defense, and those that work for the judiciary system, I have no issue with.

However, as an example of the government workers that *do* "suck", I work in a public school as a student worker. My bosses have lunch meetings all day (where about 15 minutes out of an hour is devoted to an actual issue, the rest devoted to gossip and attempt to make each other feel good) and are always trying to find things to spend money on so that their budget will not be cut the next year. One department bought an expensive shredder (they already had a working shredder), because they hadn't reached their budget limit yet, and to be approved for the same budget next year, had to reach it. So they bought a scanner that they didn't need.

These marches and rallies are all about restoring "sanity," and making fun of "fear mongering," while ignoring the facts of our political atmosphere and pretending that citizens have no reason to be upset or scared with the direction that our government is going. Large government is a *bad* thing. It rests on the premise that men cannot live their own lives properly, and have to be directed, regulated, and ruled by *other men*. And these people (the supporters of bigger government) claim to be supporters of reason and logic. I beg to differ.

Posted by: junechristopher1 | October 29, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

The Government "happens to be run by people" - who happen to make more that TWICE as much as the taxpayers who they leech from. Now more than half of Americans get some money from the feds. It doesn't take a math genius to know that 46% of America can't pay 54% of America twice as much as they themselves take home. That's why we run at a deficit. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! YOU FEDS DO SUCK!

Posted by: naturalkirk | October 29, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I have worked almost 30 years in the private sector (far from DC and not fed contractors), and based on frequent interaction with federal workers in my field, I find them as capable and hard working as my private sector colleagues.

Certainly such an observation will fall on deaf ears with those who seem to have an emotional stake in denouncing anything government.

Posted by: KenNat | November 1, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

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