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Posted at 6:00 AM ET, 11/30/2010

'Don't ask, don't tell' report set for release

By Ed O'Keefe

The Pentagon on Tuesday will release its long-anticipated report on how ending the "don't ask, don't tell" policy banning gays from openly serving in uniform might impact troop readiness and morale. The comprehensive review -- expected to number several hundred pages -- will be closely scrutinized by members of the military and lawmakers eager to determine whether they should end the ban.

Two people familiar with a draft of the report said early this month that it concludes that the military can lift the ban on gays serving openly in uniform with only minimal and isolated incidents of risk to the current war efforts. More than 70 percent of respondents to a survey sent to active-duty and reserve troops over the summer said the effect of repealing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy would be positive, mixed or nonexistent, the sources said.

The report is expected to be released around midday, according to sources. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen and the report's co-authors, Defense Department General Counsel Jeh C. Johnson and Army Gen. Carter Ham, will meet with reporters shortly after its release.

President Obama is expected to receive a copy of the report today and will certify its findings along with Gates and Mullen. He met Monday with members of the Joint Chiefs to discuss the report, according to White House officials who did not provide further details.

The report is likely to enrage advocates for and against ending the ban, at least in part, but still provide enough fodder for their arguments.

"It is likely that there will be some useful information in the report," said Elaine Donnelly, executive director of the Center for Military Readiness, a group opposed to ending the ban. Her group and other social conservatives plan to analyze the report and assign it letter grades based on factual accuracy, whether it fairly included the viewpoints of concerned troops and how Johnson and Ham reached their conclusions.

Despite the report's release, Congress should wait until next year to consider the issue, Donnelly said. "Sufficient time is needed to consider the importance of the current law and the consequences of repeal legislation."

But the pro-gay Human Rights Campaign warned Monday against further delay. "The issues of gays serving openly in the military has been studied for 50 years, including by the military itself, always finding that letting known gays serve does not harm the military," the group said in a memo to reporters.

"This issue has been studied for fifty years, including by the military itself; the results from over twenty-two studies are uniform: openly gay service does not harm readiness," HRC said. "The relevant question is not whether some troops don't feel like serving with open gays, but whether doing so harms readiness, and the research shows it does not."

Pop singer Lady Gaga, asked by gay rights groups to lend her star power to the cause, jumped into the fray again Monday with an online message to fans.

"We've known for many years that an overwhelming majority of Americans are ready to repeal," she said, urging senators to vote quickly on ending the ban.

But a vote on the annual defense policy bill that includes language ending "don't ask, don't tell" won't come until after Gates, Mullen, Johnson and Ham testify about the report on Thursday to the Senate Armed Services Committee. The panel's ranking Republican, John McCain, is opposed to ending the ban and is expected to take a leading role in criticizing the report's findings.

Passage of the bill depends on securing support from a mix of 10 moderate senators of both parties who are waiting to read the report and hear from military leaders before deciding how to vote. Already Sens. Richard Lugar (R-Ind.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) have signaled support, while Olympia Snowe (R-Maine), John Ensign (R-Nev.), James Webb (D-Va.) and others may join repeal efforts by week's end.

Failing to vote on the issue would put the Senate at odds with a majority of Americans. A Pew Research Center poll released Monday once again found that most Americans support allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly in the military.

Fifty-eight percent of respondents supported ending the gay ban, while 27 percent opposed, findings consistent with similar surveys from the last five years, Pew said.

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Comments

When one doddering old fool like McCain can put a monkey wrench in the works, it is time to change the way government does its job.

Posted by: Utahreb | November 30, 2010 7:38 AM | Report abuse

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal..."

Posted by: gpsman | November 30, 2010 7:39 AM | Report abuse

The citizens of the United States demand that our government immediately end "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"...We are a better country than to treat some of our citizens as less than equal.

Posted by: gilbertpb40 | November 30, 2010 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Has anyone asked these "soldiers" why they chose to be gay in the first place?

Posted by: JulioAugustine | November 30, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Bradley Manning.

Posted by: Smarg | November 30, 2010 8:19 AM | Report abuse

Julio, do you honestly think people choose their sexual orientation? Especially in a country with such overt opposition to it? Sexuality isn't a fashion or a fad, it is something who you are. Can you honestly say you can choose who you fall in love with?

Posted by: PoliticsStudent | November 30, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse


Report released. Votes lacking.

Posted by: screwjob22 | November 30, 2010 8:23 AM | Report abuse

If the military doesn't want gays, they should stop recruiting them.

Posted by: areyousaying | November 30, 2010 8:35 AM | Report abuse

If McCain wants more work done because 50 years and 22 studies isn't enough to settle an issue, then he clearly is wasting taxpayer money for his own bias and should be asked to resign.

Posted by: sarahabc | November 30, 2010 8:36 AM | Report abuse

Hang Bradley Manning.

Posted by: screwjob22 | November 30, 2010 8:39 AM | Report abuse

"Bradley Manning leaked classified info out of anger at US military’s gay policy"

The traitor who stole this information for wikileaks was a US soldier......a homosexual US Soldier

Gays in the Military has downsides......like this

Homosexuality was rightly classed as a mental illness until a 3 to 2 vote by the governing body of American psychiatry in the early 1970's at a convention where no papers on related topics were presented...a "global warming" bit of political science...

Posted by: georgedixon1 | November 30, 2010 8:43 AM | Report abuse

Pretty soon it will be a crime to not serve up trouser trout to any homosexual who demands it of you.

Posted by: john_bruckner | November 30, 2010 8:57 AM | Report abuse


Homosexual traitor Bradley Manning = sodomy before country

Posted by: screwjob22 | November 30, 2010 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Foreclosures are still high, unemployment is rising and the idiots is DC focus on this BS. Jobs with benefits should be the priority.

VOTE the DC idiots out of office....

Posted by: billisnice | November 30, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

It is time to do away with DADT. From what I've read, the report shows that a huge percentage of the military polled said the change could be made without major problems. The military which calls people to fight and die for their country, should be able to accept those people as they are, not require them to live in the closet. End DADT.

Posted by: tinyjab40 | November 30, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

To commerate the new open door policy of Gates, Franks, and Obama new uniforms are to have easy access felcro tabs instead of zippers and all will have drop down flaps in the back. Condoms will be issued in place of traditional pay raises. Due to Obama cuts insurance for military will got up for everyone without a bunk buddy.

Posted by: termlimits | November 30, 2010 9:27 AM | Report abuse

To commerate the new open door policy of Gates, Franks, and Obama new uniforms are to have easy access felcro tabs ....
Posted by: termlimits | November 30, 2010 9:27 AM

/// Try that again. It sounds like you're drunk. Is commerate like repudiate?

Posted by: Keesvan | November 30, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

with the old f00l mcsame, and asked and didn't tell lyndsy graham cracker gumming up the works it may be a challenge to finally geting this done.

Posted by: calif-joe | November 30, 2010 9:40 AM | Report abuse

nobody but active military personnel should have any say about DADT.if lady gaga AND ANY OTHER ENTERTAINER SHOULD ENLIST IN THE MILITARY AND HAVE THEIR VOTE COUNTED.as for these admirals and generals they have their own sleeping and living quarters,they do not have to sleep and eat with the gay enlisted.the people of this country who have never served should see how an admiral lives.they would be greatly surprised.they have their own admirals barge a plane at their disposal,hell if they made me an admiral in 1967 i would have re-enlisted.

Posted by: SISSD1 | November 30, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

"Has anyone asked these "soldiers" why they chose to be gay in the first place?"

Posted by: JulioAugustine

Is your Special Olympics coach also your boyfriend/uncle?

Posted by: irae | November 30, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

DADT another topic on which Obama failed. The man can't lead as he spends all his time caving in.

Posted by: Maddogg | November 30, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Homosexuality is only partly genetic and developmental; the rest is socialization and choice. Because the former levels of homosexuality were not found to be significantly detrimental to society, we delisted it as a clinical mental health condition, and have chosen not to discriminate against gays.

DADT provides a weapon against military members who don't fit the mold; regardless of whether or not they are gay. I remember seeing young guys harassed into leaving the service because of gay accusations, accusations that had no basis. Killing off DADT will go a long way to stripping this injustice from the hands of the intolerant.

Posted by: mhoust | November 30, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Should the repeal of DADT fail, I hope the 27% of Americans who oppose allowing gays to serve in the military will march themselves to their local military recruiting office and sign up to serve their country since they would prevent others from doing so. It's only fair.

Posted by: SouthernerInDC | November 30, 2010 10:25 AM | Report abuse

If the 27 percent that are opposed leave the military here comes the draft again. Hopefully Lady Gaga will be the first one drafted.


Posted by: nuke41 | November 30, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

I agree that gays and lesbians have no control over who they fall in love with. Given that, they should not sleep, bathe, and dress in the same areas as people whose anatomy turns them on.

Posted by: blasmaic | November 30, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

McCain needs yet another study and more time?

None of these countries waited the last 30 years (for military service, for healthcare systems, for economic policy, for employment policy)

Albania, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Canada, Colombia, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Russia, Serbia, Slovenia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Taiwan, United Kingdom, Bermuda, Uruguay.

Time McCain resign or retire. He serves no one.

Posted by: ldfrmc | November 30, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

John McCain reminds me of that older employee who used to be important but now is just kept on out of pity. At a certain point, the old guy's bitterness becomes destructive to the company. He's so angry that there are brighter people, more productive people, handsomer people, that he tries to undermine everything. Later, after he's gone, everybody else agrees it should have come years earlier.

John, there is no fool like an old fool.

Posted by: Keesvan | November 30, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

JulioAugustine, these "soldiers" (your quotes, not mine) are risking their lives to defend your sorry ass. Instead of demeaning their service with our quotation marks, maybe you could thank them for their service as you sit in your home or office this morning reading the newspaper and having a coffee.

Posted by: SouthernerInDC | November 30, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Openly gay service members are the gay agendas final victory in establishing an unnatural behavior as fully socially acceptable. If they can breach the most respected institution in our nation they have final legitimacy.

Their sales point is that “they are there already” and “gays are born that way and can’t help it”. Of course that sales pitch can be used to make pedophiles, polygamists, serial killers, necrophiliac’s and countless other unnatural behaviors and lifestyles legitimate also.


Posted by: nuke41 | November 30, 2010 10:35 AM | Report abuse

This will destroy our US Military. The recruitment will stop.If gays are allowed openly, what do you think the straight soldiers will do when gays wear women's clothes in the barracks or at bars. The straight soldiers will probaly beat up the gays or shoot the gays.It will become an all-gay military as straight soldiers will leave or not volunter anymore and can't be recruited.Anybody think an all gay military can fight our enemies in Afghanistan? When the islamic terrorists see gays wearing women's clothes when off duty or that they are aware that these are gays, the islamic terrorists and islamic civilians will be emboldened and behead these gays and it would also be the best recruitment tool for the islamic fanatic terrorists . Our US Military will lose morale and we will lose every battle. Even civilians will beat up gays,why would the US Military be happy and comfortable when they are in the battlefield when their lives are in danger and these gays will be touching them, even when these straight soldiers are sleeping. The gays are lustful, they always were using anal-penile sex with multiple sexual gay partners in bathouses before AIDS came which forced them to become monogamous. With treatment available for AIDS gays will resume this practice again in bathouses and in the military barracks.Gays by nature and from the very beginning will always be lustful and engage in perverted sexual practice. This is their nature from the very beginning.

Posted by: mahalapril | November 30, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

Gays will do no harm in the military?

Total BS. One need look no farther than the wikileaks private, a homosexual who got his panties in a twist over DADT and a failed love-affair.

Posted by: pgr88 | November 30, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

But, but, but it's not what Mister McCain wanted to see, or hear, or smell, or touch.

Posted by: whocares666 | November 30, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Wow. It never fails to surprise me how ignorant people are. The lasts few comments are either from sane people who are just playing around or are from very, very troubled and/or fearful, ignorant people. I am a 20-year Army veteran. I served with LOTS of gay men and women. Some were promiscuous. Guess what? So are a LOT of heterosexual men. It's a MAN thing, not a GAY thing. Some are very monogamous. I know six active duty gay couples who have been together for more than 12 years. I know many more heterosexual couples who have gotten divorced (mostly due to infidelity) within 3 years. So there goes your argument against promiscuous gays.

All gay men do not dress in womens clothing. That's called "transvestite" or "cross dresser." People in the military by and large follow the rules. That's called "good order and discipline." If you don't follow the rules, gay or straight, then you get fired. It's worked that way for years.

Those who are spouting off with their homophobic, moronic ideas are obviously (1) not in the military and never have been; (2) are in or were in the military but joined after they dropped out of their ultra-rural, backwoods high school where the only class they got an "A" in was shop; (3) actually believe what Glenn Beck says; (4) are parroting what their idiot family members and/or friends are saying and are either too afraid or too lazy to have a thought of their own; or (5) all of the above.

The correct answer is (5).

By the way: Homosexuality is not a choice because heterosexuality is not a choice. Why would anyone "choose" to be a certain way when there are so many hateful, stupid people in the world meant to do them harm? Instead of automatically hating someone different from you, why not try and have a conversation with them to try and learn something? Or open a book that doesn't have the word "God" in the title. It's called "education." Try it on and see if it fits.

Posted by: Bustachops1 | November 30, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

It was time. It is shameful, hypocritical paternalism of the U.S. government.

Posted by: luisdecairo | November 30, 2010 11:43 AM | Report abuse

I believe Bradley Manning just threw a big ole monkey wrench into the plans for DADT. How many other gay soldiers will attempt to sabotage US security and try to hold it hostage for DADT?

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | November 30, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: Bustachops1
"I am a 20-year Army veteran. I served with LOTS of gay men and women."

=========================================

Was that the Greek Army? HA HA!

Posted by: nuke41 | November 30, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

Let's not forget the original reason behind banning gays from the military. National defense is our nation's highest priority. Our nation could lose everything if the military is not at it's strongest level at all times.
Males between the age of 18 & 23 historically don't have much respect for homosexuals. This is a fact. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, it's just simply the way it is. This is the age bracket for military recruitment. If gays our allowed into our military, and allowed to rise within the ranks, we risk insubordination and mutiny of entire branches of our military. Straight men have no problem rebelling against the commands of a gay man. Let's rethink this. Thank you.

Posted by: ken1stevens | November 30, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

I see the usual corps of bigots is out in force with nonsensical remarks like asking troops why they "chose to be gay". No one choses to be gay. Gay people simply realize at some point that that's the way God or nature made them.

I spent 26 years in the military, neither asking nor telling that I was gay. I hoped at some point that I could be honest about myself and my life to those with whom I served in the same way they were honest with me, talking about their spouses, their dates, their sexual adventures (not uncommon among service members overseas). It never happened and I sincerely believe that the necessary effort to hide this part of my life made me a less effective, less honest and less efficient cog in the military machine.

For those who might ask why I was in the military in the first place, I had little choice. I was, in effect, drafted during the last days of the Vietnam War. But because it was the last days, I did not go to Vietnam and rather spent my initial time in Japan which I enjoyed quite a lot leading to the decision to stay in the military. In fact, I didn't finally accept the fact that I was actually gay until about my 3rd or 4th year on active duty, so the possibility of announcing my gayness to avoid service in the first place was never really a consideration. This may be a factor with quite a few troops--they don't understand their being gay at the time they enter service.

Anyway, it is long past time to change the DADT policy and fossils like McCain should not be allowed to stop it. McCain, if, as the offspring of admirals, he ever really understood the military experience of most troops, is way out of date and his views should be ignored at this point.

Posted by: BTinSF | November 30, 2010 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey nuke41 ...

Where'd ya get your sense of humor? Your weekly edition of Highlights magazine? Or are you old enough to start getting Reader's Digest?

After all, I'm assuming "41" isn't your age. It must be your IQ.

Posted by: Bustachops1 | November 30, 2010 1:03 PM | Report abuse

"Where'd ya get your sense of humor? Your weekly edition of Highlights magazine?
Posted by: Bustachops1 | November 30, 2010 1:03 PM"

Those seeing humor in this issue need to understand that those directly affected by it often cannot. I know my life would probably have been different (and I believe better in a number of ways) without the need to hide my orientation. And it wasn't even a matter of hiding the expression of sexuality because I was actually celibate most of the time I spent in the military. But I still couldn't explain not having a wife or even wanting to participate in unit social functions with a date of the opposite sex.

It wasn't funny then and it isn't funny now. It was painful, then and now.

Posted by: BTinSF | November 30, 2010 1:29 PM | Report abuse


Bustachops1, you sound like someone masquerading as a veteran in order to promote the gay agenda. During my 21 years, 8 months and 5 days in the service I turned suspected homosexual cases over to CID for investigation and their subsequent discharge if guilty.

Posted by: nuke41 | November 30, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Always remember that it is the nature of gays from the very beginning to be lustful by having anal-penile sex with multiple gay sexual partners in bathouses and if approved in the barracks , so that is why we can't change gays to become straight .They are what they are since their beginning. The only reason they became monogamous was when AIDS came because they would have been exterminated with their multiple gay sexual partners and analpenile sex which facilitated transmission of AIDS. Now that we have a treatment and prevention of AIDS they will surely resume their natural lustful sexual practice.Just remember they are forcing the majority of Americans who are opposed to gay marriage ,knowing that it will confuse and damage the future of our children and grandchildren for their own lustful, selfish financial benefit of obtaining money for spousal benefits ,not because of love.Disprove my statements about AIDS being the reason for gays temporarily becoming monogamous. They don't want to die fom AIDS before and will be endangering our real US Military men and women if they are open since they will be wearing womens' clothing and acting like women in bars and barracks.This will cause the US soldiers to be angry and beat them up and the islamic terrorists to behead them.These gays are not honorable and are lustful if left to do anything they want.

Posted by: mahalapril | November 30, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Always remember that it is the nature of gays from the very beginning to be lustful by having anal-penile sex with multiple gay sexual partners in bathouses and if approved in the barracks , so that is why we can't change gays to become straight .They are what they are since their beginning. The only reason they became monogamous was when AIDS came because they would have been exterminated with their multiple gay sexual partners and analpenile sex which facilitated transmission of AIDS. Now that we have a treatment and prevention of AIDS they will surely resume their natural lustful sexual practice.Just remember they are forcing the majority of Americans who are opposed to gay marriage ,knowing that it will confuse and damage the future of our children and grandchildren for their own lustful, selfish financial benefit of obtaining money for spousal benefits ,not because of love.Disprove my statements about AIDS being the reason for gays temporarily becoming monogamous. They don't want to die fom AIDS before and will be endangering our real US Military men and women if they are open since they will be wearing womens' clothing and acting like women in bars and barracks.This will cause the US soldiers to be angry and beat them up and the islamic terrorists to behead them.These gays are not honorable and are lustful if left to do anything they want.

Posted by: mahalapril | November 30, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

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