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Posted at 3:17 PM ET, 11/17/2010

TSA agent punched in chest by passenger

By Ed O'Keefe

Updated 4:44 p.m. ET
A passenger was arrested Tuesday for punching a Transportation Security Administration officer in the chest after passing through a body-imaging machine at Indianapolis International Airport, police said.

According to police, John A. Christina, 51, admitted to punching the officer after passing through the machine and asking the officer about increased security procedures. The officer replied that he does not normally work in Indianapolis and could not answer the question.

Christina then punched the officer in the chest, police said. The officer, who is normally assigned to the Dayton, Ohio, airport, asked Christina why he punched him.

"I was only kidding with you," Christina replied.

Other TSA agents and passengers witnessed the incident, police said, and Christina was arrested and charged with battery.

In a statement, TSA spokesman Greg Soule called violence against TSOs, "shameful."

"TSA will work with local authorities to see that appropriate action is taken," Soule said.

John Gage, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, said TSA needs to better inform the general public about the new security procedures in order to avoid future confusion and attacks. It should consider giving passengers an informational pamphlet, he said.

"This absence of information has resulted in a backlash against the character and professionalism of TSOs based on a few widely reported but largely ill-founded claims repeated over and over again by the media," Gates said. "Like all Americans, TSOs deserve to be treated with dignity and respect. These men and women are as the first line of defense against those who seek to harm this country."

AFGE is hoping to one day serve as the only union representing TSOs.

The body-imaging machines are at the center of increased criticism and scrutiny of TSA's airport security measures.

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Comments

SIMPLE, NO phD REQUIRED...perhpas not even high school diploma...


WANT MORE SECURITY AT AIRPORTS? (OR ANY OTHER WAY OF COMING INTO OUR COUNTRY)?,WANT BETTER WAY TO FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM?...

THIS IS VERY SIMPLE;- LET'S START PROFILING ABOUT EVERYONE AND ANYONE OUTSIDER, ANY PLACE, ANY TIME, ALL PLACES, ALL TIMES.

Clearly nobody does need a phD in astrophysics to understand this simple thing.

PROFILING IS NOT RACISM , IT IS A PROCEDURE TOOL

PROFILING?...WHO?....who cannot handle this one?

ACTUALLY, THERE IS NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH PROFILING OF ANY KIND...in simple terms,...if a LION attack the livestock, the farmer should NOT be LOOKING for a FISH in a pond....even a caveman understands this one....correct on this?

THIS FLACID CLAIM OF '..."I AM OFFENDED FOR I LOOK HISPANIC..OR MIDDLE-EAST TYPE ...OR WHAT EVER ETHNIC TYPE...etc.etc..." ...THAT COMPLAINT IS NOT A VALID ONE...NO MATTER HOW MUCH NOISE ANYONE WANT TO GENERATE OVER THIS.

We ALL know how terrorists looks lilke and what are the routes they are using attempting to do harm to us in our own land...and around the rest of the world...and we know that also they have a 'BLENDING PROGRAM' to looks like regular americans.

So any - ABSOLUTELY ANY OUTSIDER - ARE TO BE SCAN AT FULL SPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVE THE AUDACITY TO COME HERE AND WALK AROUND WITH RAGS IN THEIR HEADS AND LONG TUNICS AND BEARDS THAT SEEMS TO STORAGE SPIDERS AND OTHERS NASTY BUGS.

The BLASTED POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS SERVING THEM VERY WELL TO INFILTRATE THEIR NEFARIOUS AND INSIDIOUS AGENTS HERE IN OUR LAND ...AND THEY KNOW THAT AS LONG WE FIGHT AMONG OURSELVES TO LOOKS GOOD AS POLITICAL CORRECT THEY WILL HAVE THE ADVANTAGE.

WE SEEMS TO BE EXTREMELY NAIVE (for not to say monumentally stupid and idiotic)AND LET THIS TO CONTINUE BECAUSE AUTO-FEAR ....of what?....to be call 'anti-this' or 'anti-that' by them?....people, GROW-UP!,...WISE-UP!

We all are big boys and girls here ,....and this can easily be understood using only about TWO NEURONS,...AND THE REST OF THE BRAIN ON 'STAND-BY'

So , once more - (and better is FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND VERY WELL AND CRYSTAL CLEAR!) - PROFILING IS NOT RACISM...PROFILING IS A PROCEDURE TOOL...AND IS VERY VERY NESCESSARY....

IT IS A MATTER OF SURVIVAL!

So, again, WE ALL ARE BIG BOYS AND GIRLS ...so we should be able to handle it.

Live with it.

Does anyone out there require a phD in quantum physics to understand this?

Daniel Cabrera
Merrillville,Indiana

Posted by: morcab | November 17, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse


Let there be 2, 3, MANY John Christinas.

And remember, Christina didn't even TOUCH the molester's junk.

Posted by: bloggersvilleusa | November 17, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

I am vehemently opposed to the new screening procedures, but nothing justifies abusing a TSA Agents. This is appalling.

Posted by: David-F-NYC | November 17, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Our GREAT nation: We have the FREEDOM to have our "privates" molested by Government Agents.

Posted by: TOMHERE | November 17, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Our GREAT nation: We have the FREEDOM to have our "privates" molested by Government Agents.

Posted by: TOMHERE | November 17, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Wow, somebody needs some Xanax.

No, I don't mean Mr. Christina; I mean that poster above with the Caps Lock (and personality) disorder.

Posted by: 7900rmc | November 17, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

So, how much child pornography does it take to keep our nation safe? Remember that these scanners are hsowing nudie images of your sons and daughters to a potential perv. There's already been a report of a TSA agent convicted of raping a 14 yr-old girl. And these are the same goons that steal your laptop and iPods. And now they are snapping nude photos of you with their cell phones and uploading to the internet. Land of free and home of the brave, eh? We as a country are finished. We have given up our rights in the name of security theater. The TSA has never stopped even one serious threat, it was always alert passengers that stopped anything post 9-11 -- and before that we were told to keep quiet and stay in our seats during hijackings. See how good listening to the authorites got us?

Posted by: techrat | November 17, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Just ride the Greyhound, at least then you only get groped in the men's room...

Posted by: ozpunk | November 17, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Mr. Cabrera, perhaps you could answer this question (since you have so many of your own), but what nationality was Timothy McVeigh? What if we were to profile white men as angry, psychopathic murderers with a penchant for fertilizer bomb making and treasonous activity? Should we then immediately start profiling all of them in this manner?

Posted by: djbigsplash | November 17, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

He should have slammed his head into a cement pole.

Posted by: Trout1 | November 17, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Regardless of what you think about the new TSA security requirements and procedures, even as a joke you do not get to punch anyone, let alone a TSA employee just trying to do his job. Mr. Christina needs to be prosecuted, fined and do at least a short stint in jail. Just enough to send a message to anyone else that might have the same idea. He should be required to film a 30 second public service segment that can be shown on all news programs and in the airports regarding the treatment of TSA personnel, or anyone who is only doing their job and has to deal with an often thankless and rude public. The airport isn't the only place that these sort if incidents occur. I would even volunteer to write the script.

Posted by: garypierce1 | November 17, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse


I am vehemently opposed to the new screening procedures, but nothing justifies abusing a TSA Agents. This is appalling.
Posted by: David-F-NYC | November 17, 2010 3:37 PM

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Not at all. What he did is no more "appalling" than punching a nazi concentration camp guard. I'm pleased to see that there is at least one American left in the United States.

Remember, the TSA itself has no right to exist under the 4th Amendment and any government official in or above TSA by countenancing its existence is by definition violating the oath of office. Moreover, TSA serves no useful function whatever.

It's amazing to see the shocking hypocrisy of TSA spokesman Greg Soule calling tapping somebody's chest, "shameful" while supporting and encouraging the deliberate sexual molestation of air travelers, even children, by TSA scum.

Now THAT is appalling.

Posted by: bloggersvilleusa | November 17, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I am for profiling: the Israelis are doing it and it works very well. It would also eliminate the screening of 80 years old grandmothers or 6 years old girls and boys. Yes - you will need better trained ATS officers: you will need to teach them some basic psychology (In Israel all screening is done by University students, military officers after their service and they go through training of several weeks). Most of the screening is done by interview. In cases of doubt they can to do more detailed search and screening. Yes - Middle East people and other foreigners are subject to more questions and search - but this is the world we are living in.

Posted by: JGalron | November 17, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

You use violence, or anything else, against your enemies. And that's what they are now - enemies. We are now living in occupied territory.

Posted by: Trout1 | November 17, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

And the "officer" couldn't answer the question WHY?

What difference does it make what city he's in???

THAT is the real issue!

Posted by: solsticebelle | November 17, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

I find it understandable, and like a few others, consider the TSA employee nothing more or less than a Nazi Concentration camp guard. The man lost his temper, and he should not have done so.

Posted by: samsara15 | November 17, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

SIMPLE, NO phD REQUIRED...perhpas not even high school diploma...


WANT MORE SECURITY AT AIRPORTS? (OR ANY OTHER WAY OF COMING INTO OUR COUNTRY)?,WANT BETTER WAY TO FIGHT AGAINST TERRORISM?...

THIS IS VERY SIMPLE;- LET'S START PROFILING ABOUT EVERYONE AND ANYONE OUTSIDER, ANY PLACE, ANY TIME, ALL PLACES, ALL TIMES.

Clearly nobody does need a phD in astrophysics to understand this simple thing.

PROFILING IS NOT RACISM , IT IS A PROCEDURE TOOL

PROFILING?...WHO?....who cannot handle this one?

ACTUALLY, THERE IS NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG WITH PROFILING OF ANY KIND...in simple terms,...if a LION attack the livestock, the farmer should NOT be LOOKING for a FISH in a pond....even a caveman understands this one....correct on this?

THIS FLACID CLAIM OF '..."I AM OFFENDED FOR I LOOK HISPANIC..OR MIDDLE-EAST TYPE ...OR WHAT EVER ETHNIC TYPE...etc.etc..." ...THAT COMPLAINT IS NOT A VALID ONE...NO MATTER HOW MUCH NOISE ANYONE WANT TO GENERATE OVER THIS.

We ALL know how terrorists looks lilke and what are the routes they are using attempting to do harm to us in our own land...and around the rest of the world...and we know that also they have a 'BLENDING PROGRAM' to looks like regular americans.

So any - ABSOLUTELY ANY OUTSIDER - ARE TO BE SCAN AT FULL SPECIALLY THOSE WHO HAVE THE AUDACITY TO COME HERE AND WALK AROUND WITH RAGS IN THEIR HEADS AND LONG TUNICS AND BEARDS THAT SEEMS TO STORAGE SPIDERS AND OTHERS NASTY BUGS.

The BLASTED POLITICAL CORRECTNESS IS SERVING THEM VERY WELL TO INFILTRATE THEIR NEFARIOUS AND INSIDIOUS AGENTS HERE IN OUR LAND ...AND THEY KNOW THAT AS LONG WE FIGHT AMONG OURSELVES TO LOOKS GOOD AS POLITICAL CORRECT THEY WILL HAVE THE ADVANTAGE.

WE SEEMS TO BE EXTREMELY NAIVE (for not to say monumentally stupid and idiotic)AND LET THIS TO CONTINUE BECAUSE AUTO-FEAR ....of what?....to be call 'anti-this' or 'anti-that' by them?....people, GROW-UP!,...WISE-UP!

We all are big boys and girls here ,....and this can easily be understood using only about TWO NEURONS,...AND THE REST OF THE BRAIN ON 'STAND-BY'

So , once more - (and better is FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND VERY WELL AND CRYSTAL CLEAR!) - PROFILING IS NOT RACISM...PROFILING IS A PROCEDURE TOOL...AND IS VERY VERY NESCESSARY....

IT IS A MATTER OF SURVIVAL!

So, again, WE ALL ARE BIG BOYS AND GIRLS ...so we should be able to handle it.

Live with it.

Does anyone out there require a phD in quantum physics to understand this?

Daniel Cabrera
Merrillville,Indiana


+++
Cabrera, hmm? Is that an AMERICAN name? Sounds kinda foreign to me.

-Like that terrorist from the mid-West who blew up the Federal Building in KC a while back. Those are the people we should be watching.

White skin, eyes too close together, smells like, to put it nicely, fertilizer.

Posted by: law1946 | November 17, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

The TSA was created to provide a false sense of safety to the flying public after 9/11. They succeeded in their mission. However, as time has passed, they have become completely corrupted by the enticement of their skyrocketing Federal budget, and the complete incompetence of its leadership.
These scanners don't work; they don't make us safer. Liquid bombs which can easily blow the entire side out of an airplane can easily be made from the little approved bottles that the TSA allows...
There is literally no need to smuggle anything through a scanner. The problem is that Michael Chertoff is the guy selling the scanners for Rapiscan. I attempted to post those links, but that comment has been blocked.
Violating our rights in order to enrich some clown like Chertoff is reprehensible, and intolerable.
Stop the scanners. Google for the petition.

Posted by: justaguy2 | November 17, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

These TSA agents are power mad bureaucrats who are totally out of control. Many of them are also sexual perverts who greatly enjoy their job of feeling up innocent passengers. They are a shameful lot.

Posted by: dsrobins | November 17, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I'm all for profiling, as long as it's my right side.

Posted by: redhotCAPSaicin | November 17, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Aren't these conservatives/libertarians the same people who deride liberals for trying to "understand" criminals, and justify their actions because they were grounded in poverty, racism, or whatever? When did the wing nuts accept the "we should understand the causes of a criminal's behavior" philosophy?

Posted by: wvanpup | November 17, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Let's hope to hear lots more stories about TSA officials being decked by angry travelers. I can't wait for Thanksgiving travelers to find themselves on the receiving end of an intrusive pat-down. That should be when it descends into literal fist fights at airports. Woo hoo!

Posted by: Desertdiva1 | November 17, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Something is missing here.

A punched security agent should not be asking why he was punched before arresting the puncher. The puncher should be on the ground with a half dozen officers on his back, hands in his pants.

If this actually happened. Odd.

Posted by: getjiggly1 | November 17, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Good for Mr. Christina. Hopefully it will start a trend and we'll be forever rid of those Bush Bins, porno scanners and the ridiculous delays that demean all travelers.

Posted by: jimlauer | November 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Sissy TSA agent.

Posted by: TooManyPeople | November 17, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

put that guy on the no-fly list! see how he likes it then. to actually assualt someone over walking through an xray machine shows a very unstable person. better be on a no-fly list immediately

Posted by: rmk1122 | November 17, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

All this insanity is because of the underwear bomber. A man who was already known to the authorities, and his FATHER called the TSA to try and get them to stop him from boarding the plane. FAIL !!! The TSA couldn't catch a cold, much less anyone determined to do damage. All this does is harass Americans, provide worthless security theater, and make our former "Homeland Security" cheif, Mike Chertoff super weathly at the expense of your tax dollars. Notice these scanners are only deployed IN AMERICA. Other countries won't use them, so, where is the security in an international flight bound for the USA? It's in the hands of the obviously more competent security officials elsewhere. ONLY in the USA do we employ minimum wage bouncers to handle critical security, and then provide them with enough tools to bully everyone except actual terrorists.

Posted by: techrat | November 17, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

The prime enemy of our rights and dignity are the people who make the policies. Let's stay focussed, let's petition our elected officials, let's boycott. Violence should be a last resort.

Posted by: vmax02rider | November 17, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

This entire fake security TSA intrusion in our lives has gotten out of hand.

No jury in America will convict this man.

Or any parent who clocks a TSA agent who feels up their kid or 13 yo daughter.

What gets me the most is that even the tests of the TSA screening prove they don't work - the "fake terrorists" get their items on board 4 times out of 5.

And even then it's the baggage that's the risk.

END THIS NANNY STATE INTRUSION ON OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICAN CITIZENS TO TRAVEL WITHIN AMERICA!

Posted by: WillSeattle | November 17, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

Well that didn't take long. I expect we will be reading about more assaults because I for one would prefer to choose the person who touches my junk.

Posted by: bbface21 | November 17, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I posted this comment on another blog, but I'll say it again here. Instead of whining in the WaPo comments sections, write to your Senators and Representative. TSA is convinced beyond the reach of argument that they are right and the flying public is wrong. They are not going to respect anyone's privacy or dignity unless Congress forces them to, and complaining about their procedures in any other way is fruitless. Assaulting TSA agents is surely not going to solve anything.

I agree that TSA is out of control, but Congress has the power to rein it in. Let's insist that they use it.

Posted by: GordonCash | November 17, 2010 5:14 PM | Report abuse

If you object so strongly to these security measures that protect us all just don't fly. No one has a constitutional right to fly.

Posted by: bnichols6 | November 17, 2010 5:18 PM | Report abuse

If you don't like anal probes, don't fly.

Posted by: getjiggly1 | November 17, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

"These men and women are as the first line of defense against those who seek to harm this country."

I guess that's why the underwear bomber slipped right past these geniuses.

Posted by: NoWayNotNow | November 17, 2010 5:26 PM | Report abuse

Vote out the incumbents. Anything less means you approve.

If it turns out you're in the minority, don't fly.

Metallic ink in a temporary tattoo for the screeners perhaps? Something appropriate like "F*ck Off"

Posted by: Over-n-Out | November 17, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Most TSA goons have the IQ of a small dog.

Posted by: kase | November 17, 2010 5:39 PM | Report abuse

What a moron - just go through the security and be on your merry way already. And forgo the airport bar scene. Idiot...

Posted by: LABC | November 17, 2010 5:49 PM | Report abuse

These "security procedures" would not have stopped the underwear bomber. He flew in from Amsterdam, and therefore would not have been subject to this screening.

Americans give up their dignity, and they don't even get any safer.

Posted by: DCX2 | November 17, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

It's about time someone stood up for himself! He should be appluded. The unAmerican TSA should be abolished and every last one of those gropers/voyeurs fired IMMEDIATELY from the arrogant John Pistole on down! Then, haul every scanning device back to the manufacturers and demand a full refund on behalf of the taxpayers. The TSA are the real terrorists and should be treated so.

Posted by: pjs1965 | November 17, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Good for Mr. Christina. Hopefully it will start a trend and we'll be forever rid of those Bush Bins, porno scanners and the ridiculous delays that demean all travelers.

Posted by: jimlauer
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Fleck off - typical idiot, making a hero out of an arse...

Posted by: LABC | November 17, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

"It should consider giving passengers an informational pamphlet"

I can't wait to read that.

Dear traveler, please observe the following guidelines to ensure a safe trip:
1. Smile while a TSA representative gropes you.
2. Body cavity searches can be both safe and fun!
3. Please do not punch TSO's. They are only trying to provide "personalized" service

Posted by: goexplode | November 17, 2010 5:55 PM | Report abuse

@bnichols6: "If you object so strongly to these security measures that protect us all just don't fly."

You do understand they're not actually protecting us, don't you? It's all theater designed to make you feel safer about flying. The goal of terrorism is to make everyone feel irrationally unsafe through acts of violence against a few. Once that succeeds a terrorist's enemy does the rest of his work for him through overreaction. You are 10 times more likely to be killed by lightning than by terrorists. Mindlessly supporting the accelerating erosion of our rights for the mere illusion of safety plays perfectly into our enemy's hands.

Posted by: BigTunaTim | November 17, 2010 6:02 PM | Report abuse

"Not at all. What he did is no more "appalling" than punching a nazi concentration camp guard."

Are you freaking kidding me?? Did you just compare a TSA agent to a Nazi concentration camp guard? What are you, nuts?

I'm surprised you are not one of those doofuses that deny the Holocaust ever happened.

Wow. WOW!

Posted by: itsme1 | November 17, 2010 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Jaysus, all this "junk" induced angst over a small amount of your travel time. Whaaaa, I have to take off my shoes...whaaaa, I have to stand in front of a machine for a few seconds while someone who can care less about my body takes a quick scan. I have never gotten bullied or molested by anyone at TSA. I guess it is because I don't look to make a frigging scene every time I travel. I just try to get from A to B. Any of you hysterics been to Israel? 'Cause those folks have machine guns and some moron like Tyner or Christina would have been jailed for his antics. And questioning the intelligence of folks who do this work is pretty funny coming from folks who seem to think that flying is some absolute right in the Bill of Rights.

Posted by: LABC | November 17, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

bloggersvilleusa, the TSOs are not ANYTHING like concentration camp guards. And saying they are is disrespectful to people who went through WWII atrocities.

I'm completely against the new screening. I've written my senators & congressman, and I'll be writing the TSA and the White house asking them to be end the new procedures. However until I hear about human skin lamps and gas chambers at the TSA, I will not equate these procedures to what happened in the death camps.

Posted by: shadow27 | November 17, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if flying isn't a constitutional right, prohibition of unreasonable search and seizure is. There is no probable cause to virtually strip search me because I have purchased a ticket to fly to see my family for Thanksgiving.

And the "if you don't like it, don't fly" comment... don't be a schmuck. If you don't like smoking don't walk outside, you don't have a constitutional right to clean air. What a stupid statement--both of them.

People are justified in being upset about this. I am a reasonable person and I find this extremely upsetting. My options are: Allow someone to virtually strip search me for nothing I have done or allow someone to touch me in places I wouldn't allow any stranger to touch me, or lose all the money I earned and spent on the ticket and possibly even a fine for refusing to have my rights violated.

It may not bother all of you to the same degree, but don't act like it's unreasonable.

Posted by: 38sa | November 17, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

"Like all Americans, TSOs deserve to be treated with dignity and respect."

That's a funny thing for the union rep to say considering TSOs are the ones who tell us that they want to either feel our balls or see a naked image of our body before we ride on plane that's going to be stuck on the tarmac for an hour.

"These men and women are the first line of defense against those that seek to harm this country."

First line doesn't necessarily mean a good or smart line of defense. And I would argue the intel agencies are actually the first line.

Posted by: Booyah5000 | November 17, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

TSO's are strip searching your children with these machines.. never forget that.

Posted by: john65001 | November 17, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

1. film on your cell camera the TSA sexual abuse of others wile you go through the line, particularly for children.

the legal beagles are going to have a child “enhanced patdown” as the test case as there can be no consent to child abuse.

2. upload the TSA child sex abuse on You-tube or your local Fox tv station

3. file a complaint with your local state child abuse agency.
most states have absolute immunity and confidentiality to report child abuse, particularly by authority figures.

indeed in most states it is a crime NOT to report the TSA child abuse occurring in your presence

“following orders” is no defense for the TSA to sexual child abuse and individual TSA abusers will be arrested at home, cuffed and paraded on the perp walk by state authorities charged with child abuse.

Senators and congress members– DEMAND that TSA employees, some of whom are decent people, and have refused to molest the 3 year olds as ordered, have the right to OPT OUT without prejudice to their careers or pay as they are being ordered to violate state child abuse laws

Posted by: ProCounsel | November 17, 2010 6:50 PM | Report abuse

1) For everyone complaining about the new "pat-down" procedures in reference to this article, this moron "admitted to punching the officer after passing through the machine and asking the officer about increased security procedures." HE HAD PASSED THROUGH THE IMAGING SCANNER BEFORE PUNCHING THE OFFICER! He wasn't patted down! Besides, you don't hit a LEO! He's lucky the other TSA officers or the airport police didn't beat the crap out of him!

2) Really, shadow27? Death camps? You and the others who think this way might want to get off the hyperbole elevator and join the rest of us here on planet Earth. Or maybe I missed the Constitutional Amendment that gave us the right to fly. You don't want to go through the body-scanners, you don't want to go through the new "pat-down" procedures? Well then, enjoy that 3.5 day drive from DC to LA; enjoy that swim Hawaii!

Posted by: polyalum | November 17, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Daniel wrote:
So , once more - (and better is FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND VERY WELL AND CRYSTAL CLEAR!) - PROFILING IS NOT RACISM...PROFILING IS A PROCEDURE TOOL...AND IS VERY VERY NESCESSARY....

Well, then because the majority of terrorists are men, Lookm at the shoe bomber, the 9/11 terrorists, the pants bomber, the Oklahoma City bombings,the Atlanta Olympic bombing, the UniBomber, the St. Louis factory shooter. What do they all really have in common?

Yes, based on the profile of terrorist and violent acts in this country, it looks like all men should be scanned and searched.

Enjoy your scans, Daniel. I know you won't mind the profiling


Posted by: wingedlizard | November 17, 2010 6:55 PM | Report abuse

TSA needs to stop touching our junk. I don't want a pamphlet, I want the government to keep it's hands off my balls.

Posted by: Nymous | November 17, 2010 7:07 PM | Report abuse

I don't like the new procedures, either - I won't be walking through the scanners until I have some reliable information on the dose of ionizing radiation I'm subjected to.

Nevertheless, punching the TSA agent isn't justified.

More effective means of protest might include what some Germans recently did - a number of passengers protested body scanners a couple of days ago at the Berlin-Tegel airport by removing their clothes.

Posted by: apn3206 | November 17, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

its called Opt out day

not Punch out day!!!

Posted by: nwerle | November 17, 2010 7:25 PM | Report abuse

Although I totally disagree with the TSA procedures, I don't condone what this guy did. I think a slap on the wrist is what he deserves.

Posted by: wilson0004 | November 17, 2010 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Senators and congress members– DEMAND that TSA employees, some of whom are decent people, and have refused to molest the 3 year olds as ordered, have the right to OPT OUT without prejudice to their careers or pay as they are being ordered to violate state child abuse laws

Posted by: ProCounsel | November 17, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

If the congress doesn't step in and stop this intrusion of our bodies and minds the USA is finished. I have two thoughts on this trampling of our constitutional rights. Has anyone thought of the emotional trauma this will cause on sexual assault victims? My second thought is for the autistic population. As the Mother of an autistic teenage girl, this invasion of her body would be emotional rape and would leave lasting scars to her psyche for the rest of her life. Lastly, the silence is deafening in regards to the ACLU. If these measures were taken during the Bush administration, the ACLU and the main stream media would be screaming bloody murder. Political correctness be damned, start profiling these terrorist thugs and leave law abiding citizens to move about freely as is our rights as Americans.

Posted by: jeiken | November 17, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

I think we're getting a government-approved, sanitized version of this incident. So the passenger asks the TSA guy a question, and when the TSA guy can't answer, the passenger punches him in the chest. This story fails the smell test. How about telling us what really happened?

Posted by: dparks2 | November 17, 2010 8:17 PM | Report abuse

bloggersvilleusa, the TSOs are not ANYTHING like concentration camp guards. And saying they are is disrespectful to people who went through WWII atrocities.

I'm completely against the new screening. I've written my senators & congressman, and I'll be writing the TSA and the White house asking them to be end the new procedures. However until I hear about human skin lamps and gas chambers at the TSA, I will not equate these procedures to what happened in the death camps.

Posted by: shadow27 | November 17, 2010 6:26 PM


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To the contrary, I am at peace with the idea that those who endured nazi tyranny would recognize in the operations of TSA exactly the same characteristics found in nazi camp guards and the rest of the nazi apparatus.

Right down to the whining "We're only following orders".

Wait for one of these slathering slimy goons to give some woman a "Sophies Choice" - "You may keep ONE of your children, the OTHER will be manually raped by us".

Remember that the nazis followed a continuum beginning with book burnings and Kristallnacht that led to general genocide. The nazis were still nazis long before the genocide when they beat up Jewish shopkeepers.

In the US, the TSA is part of that continuum.

Posted by: bloggersvilleusa | November 17, 2010 8:19 PM | Report abuse


The DA in San Mateo California is planning to prosecute TSA perps who molest their victims at San Francisco Airport!

"The San Mateo district attorney's office has a warning for all TSA personnel at SFO -- anyone inappropriately touching a passenger during a security pat down will be prosecuted."

more at:
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/peninsula&id=7793386

Posted by: bloggersvilleusa | November 17, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

It is hard to show respect to someone who is groping you

Posted by: a72voice | November 17, 2010 8:43 PM | Report abuse

All we now need is to blow up this farce. The HOME LAND SECURITY Dept is about the worst ever, big white elephant created for the conservative republican owned and operated US / UK Security complex industry profits.

Posted by: winemaster2 | November 17, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

This Tea Party guy should have be tased...

Posted by: RobRoy1 | November 17, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

This won't be the end of it. Some other idiot out there will see this as a way to gain his 15 minutes of fame by doing exactly the same thing.

....and then try to convince us that he was just kidding.

Posted by: bratmark11 | November 17, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

TSA now stands for "Touch Sensitive Areas."

Posted by: wp318676 | November 17, 2010 8:57 PM | Report abuse

TSA now stands for "Touch Sensitive Areas."

Posted by: wp318676 | November 17, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

You don't have to be a Teabagger to think that the TSA is way out of bounds. I expect things will head downhill from here, and the TSA brought this on themselves.

Posted by: wideblacksky | November 17, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

T hugs
S queezing
A mericans

Posted by: eoghan1 | November 17, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

Do you want to get on a plane with a moron who thinks he can assault anybody who annoys him? There are only a few 'underwear bombers' around, but there are a whole lot of Republicans! Who is the bigger risk?

Posted by: DaveHarris | November 17, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

I sure Obama and the TSA will go after this poor smuck with everything they have, much like they did that despicable Arizona for following federal law. The good news, based on the administrations outstanding work convicting a known terrorist today. This guy should be home with a huge settlement check soon.

Posted by: AmazedattheBS | November 17, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Can anyone compare the new pat-down procedure to the pat down given by police when you are arrested? Less invasive, as invasive, or is the new TSA pat-down more invasive? I honestly don't know. Certainly the 'virtual strip search' is far more invasive.

But if the new TSA procedure is as invasive - or MORE invasive - than the search given during arrest, think about that for a minute: you are being treated the same as, or worse than, you would be if you were suspected of committing a crime, with less legal protection. Just because you want to fly somewhere. I'm amazed and saddened some people think this is okay in the United States of America.

That said: the TSA people at the security stop are not the ones instituting this policy, and most of them probably like it even less than we do. Punching them isn't the answer.

Posted by: rjm1 | November 17, 2010 9:45 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone out there require a phD in quantum physics to understand this?
Daniel Cabrera
Merrillville,Indiana

Posted by: morcab | November 17, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse
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WAIT, WAIT, WAIT!! I just heard that some of the TSA Brass are invested in the new body scanners?? What gives?
Dennis
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Let there be 2, 3, MANY John Christinas.
And remember, Christina didn't even TOUCH the molester's junk.
Posted by: bloggersvilleusa | November 17, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse
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I am vehemently opposed to the new screening procedures, but nothing justifies abusing a TSA Agents. This is appalling.

Posted by: David-F-NYC | November 17, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Our GREAT nation: We have the FREEDOM to have our "privates" molested by Government Agents.
Posted by: TOMHERE | November 17, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse
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They're scanning, patting down, and feeling up, the Pilots??
Is this a Brilliant idea???
The Pilot can crash the plane, whenever he chooses.
Juan Williams, has just said that if the Terrorists find out, or determine, that TSA will allow the little old blonde Swedish lady, in a wheelchair, to pass security, unscanned, "they" the Terrorists, will choose the little blonde Swede, to carry the bomb.. YEAH, right. The Terrorists are going to pay, or persuade, some non-Muslim to carry a bomb, onboard an Airliner???
Is this brilliant rationale, or what??
Dennis

Posted by: Shadowsmgc | November 17, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

We all knew all of this venomous rhetoric would result in some bird brain assaulting a federal agent. Now he'll have to do 5 years in prison over some BS like this. Shoudda just walk his happy a$$ on the plane like everybody else.

Posted by: madstamina | November 17, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

When I was going through one of these scanners at DCA, the TSA representative had me hand him my wallet, which he then went through. Standing in a virtual strip search booth and surrendering your wallet for simply being randomly selected is unreasonable and does not make anyone safer.

Posted by: chucka1 | November 17, 2010 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Poor idiot. Just remember pal, when you end up on the "no-fly" list how good that sucker punch felt!

Posted by: m_richert | November 17, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Poor idiot.
Just remember pal, when you end up on the "no-fly" list how good that sucker punch felt! Civil disobedience is a stand-up thing to do. The awful thing is, you have to be responsible for breaking the law. Gandhi and King knew this and they gladly went to jail. Now, That's making your point.

Posted by: m_richert | November 17, 2010 10:41 PM | Report abuse

There shall be no finger lingering around the clangers! The otherwise unemployable wretches who pat down those affluent enough to fly somewhere should be excused for not really knowing what they are doing. But who shall excuse them? Our civilization has gone down the toi-toi. To hell with air travel and the assorted indignities, not the least of which is dose of cancer-producing radiation. All seems moderately lost. Of course, if we REALLY decide to go after terrorists... well, you know. Someone's colostomy bag needs to explode from rough handling during a pat down. That will certainly be an issue that our congress can tackle... and botch; but the theater of it all!

Posted by: squarf | November 17, 2010 11:07 PM | Report abuse

There shall be no finger lingering around the clangers! The otherwise unemployable wretches who pat down those affluent enough to fly somewhere should be excused for not really knowing what they are doing. But who shall excuse them? Our civilization has gone down the toi-toi. To hell with air travel and the assorted indignities, not the least of which is dose of cancer-producing radiation. All seems moderately lost. Of course, if we REALLY decide to go after terrorists... well, you know. Someone's colostomy bag needs to explode from rough handling during a pat down. That will certainly be an issue that our congress can tackle... and botch; but the theater of it all!

Posted by: squarf | November 17, 2010 11:08 PM | Report abuse

Gates said. "Like all Americans, TSOs deserve to be treated with dignity and respect.

I couldn't agree more. That's exactly what all American's want. Having to submit to radiation, nude scans and sexual assault is not my idea of being "treated with dignity and respect."

Our founding fathers thought freedoms and privacy was a pretty good thing. So much so they included it in the Constitution. No government, private citizen or corporation has the right to strip Americans of these rights unless there is probable cause. What possible probable cause can there possible be to feel up a 13 year old, a 93 year old woman, a nun etc.. The founding father must be rolling in there graves. While Osama Bin Laden and his buddies are laughing the a**es off.

Thank you Pistole, Napolitano and Obama! Thanks to you the terrorists have finally won.

Posted by: johnschultx12 | November 17, 2010 11:38 PM | Report abuse

We have been living in an atmosphere of fear for 9 years now. There is and has been no increased security threat against this country from within. If they truly believed that there was an increased threat then why has the threat level never been above or below Orange? Why have there been no attacks on our power grid, our infrastructure, any other domestic flights or during massed public events (ball games)? There have been no attacks because there is no realistic threat of an attack. Those that would have you think that there is have been playing on and manipulating the public's fear and ignorance in order to deprive us of whatever rights and freedoms that they can.
TSA is not preventing terror in the skies over our country. If there were a single episode where a TSA officer detected a bomb or a gun or detered a terrorist they would trumpet it to the country. It would be the News Cycle for that month. Yet we hear nothing.
I had family killed in the Pentagon. I believe that something should be done, but the line of defence should not be drawn within the country but where people are entering. They tell us that we cannot bring anything on an airplane that can possibly be used as a weapon, thus insuring that the flying public is unarmed and unprepared to defend themselves from terrorist should the need arise.
Now they are telling us that we must submit to a body scan or a pat down. These full body scanners do not prevent anything. They are a violation of my privacy as well as my rights. I believe that instead of placing these scanners in every domestic airport, they should be placed in those airports that receive international flights. The money saved could then be better spent on ways to detect and prevent devices from entering our country via UPS and other shipping companies.
Requiring me to submit to a search as a precondition to boarding a flight is a breach of my 4th Amendment right. When we allow anyone to steal or limit our rights or freedom for perceived security, then we deserve neither the rights nor the freedoms that are granted to us by the Constitution nor the security that "They" propose to give us.
The Fourth Amendment was adopted to protect us against just such general search warrants. It requires that any search warrant be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. It must be limited in scope according to specific information supplied by a person who has sworn by it and is therefore accountable to the issuing court.
Who is supplying the information that justifies the search (Katz v. United Statesf defines a search) of the American flying public. There is no reasonable probable cause that could possibly include everyone flying on every flight everywhere within the United States.
If we are going to be required to be subjected to these inconveniences and humiliations, then show us real evidence to support these violations not hypothesis.

Posted by: Wizardsfaninexile | November 17, 2010 11:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised that someone has not yet punched or kicked or swatted a screener in a knee-jerk reaction to being groped. It would be an appropriate reaction to the knee-jerk reaction of having TSA.

Posted by: iaintnohick | November 17, 2010 11:58 PM | Report abuse

This is one way to reduce carbon in the atmosphere-less people flying in the future. Who knew this was the new green policy and way to get Americans off fossil fuels and onto land mass transit-its working. Eventually we will have those high speed trains and increase the labor market needed to build them cross country. Problem is, then you have to guard the tracks, more employment. Oh well, at least it gives the airport industry time to figure out new security methods that citizens can live with, if they don't want to wear their swimsuits to the airport and bring their travel attire with them.

Posted by: soshljustic | November 18, 2010 12:59 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Cabrera, perhaps you could answer this question (since you have so many of your own), but what nationality was Timothy McVeigh? What if we were to profile white men as angry, psychopathic murderers with a penchant for fertilizer bomb making and treasonous activity? Should we then immediately start profiling all of them in this manner?

Posted by: djbigsplash | November 17, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse
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Timothy McVeigh was American of Scottish or, Scot-Irish descent.
Has it ever occurred, in History, that a person of Scot-Irish descent, committed suicide, blew himself up, in order to kill Americans, or any other people???
Without too much research, I'd conclude, that it has "not" happened, and until it does, America could save hundreds of millions of dollers, by narrowing our search and screenings, to the types of people, that have been known to commit suicide, in order to kill Americans.
We can save a lot of time, money, and frustration.
Dennis

Posted by: Shadowsmgc | November 18, 2010 1:23 AM | Report abuse

We have had lots of domestic terrorists in this country who resembled Timothy McVeigh. They are known as the Ku Klux Klan.

Posted by: Wizardsfaninexile | November 18, 2010 2:10 AM | Report abuse

Morcab: Using "nefarious" and "insidious" in the same sentence does not prove you are educated. You sound like a raving lunatic. And "Cabrera"? Oh, yeah... I'm sure your ancestors run deep in "regular American" history!

bloggersvilleusa: You hateful person. You want more people to that think punching a person is a good resolution? Hard to see the similarity between Nazi concentration camp guard and TSA screener. FACT CHECK! TSA has repeatedly defended itself against claims of 4th Amendment violations. “In the US, the TSA is part of that continuum.” Wow! You are one deluded MoFo. And the District Attorneys in California oversee Federal law how?

techrat: FACT CHECK! TSA screeners cannot bring cell phones/cameras into the room with the monitors. "The TSA has never stopped even one serious threat." How would you know if nothing bad happened that police are worth the money spent on them? But it sure is nice to have one respond when you dial 911, eh? And, no, his father did not call the TSA. His father is overseas. (BTW… TSA was also responsible for Pompeii and the Fall of the Roman Empire!)

JGalron: Profiling sounds easy for the Israelis. Remember… they have one major international airport, and people arrive 3+ hours prior to flight departure. We have 450+ commercial airports, and I can still get from curb to gate for an international flight in under 45 minutes.

justaguy2: "Liquid bombs… can easily be made from the little approved bottles." FACT CHECK! Actually, it’s far more implausible than just pouring little bottle 1 into little bottle 2.

dsrobins: "Many of them are also sexual perverts..." OK. You are just an idiot.

Desertdiva1: The heck with it. Let's all save billions of dollars and just let your plane blow up.

jimlauer: Ridiculous delays don’t demean all travelers. Ridiculous TRAVELERS demean all travelers.

NoWayNotNow: "I guess that's why the underwear bomber slipped right past these geniuses." FACT CHECK! This guy was NOT screened by TSA. He was screened overseas.

kase: Spoken like a Mensa member. Idiot.

pjs1965: "The unAmerican TSA should be abolished..." You mean the one created by the US Congress?

goexplode: 4. Run before TSA screener kicks stupid passenger's a**.

john65001: "TSO's are strip searching your children with these machines." Fearmonger.

ProCounsel: You're big on identifying TSA with child sexual abuse. Did you know that TSOs receive Amber Alert messages and have helped stop child sex offenders from absconding with abducted children? No… of course you didn’t.

Squarf: “otherwise unemployable wretches”. Now you’re just being spiteful and elitist. “dose of cancer-producing radiation”. FACT CHECK! You get what you get from the screening in two minutes of flying. So why are you flying?

Wizardsfaninexile: If there were a single episode where a TSA officer detected… a gun” FACT CHECK! Hundreds every month. HUNDREDS! And yet people keep bringing them to the checkpoint. Go figure.

Posted by: well_that_is_ONE_way_to_look_at_it | November 18, 2010 7:43 AM | Report abuse

...watching the United States and planet Earth doing a major Fail in slow motion...

Posted by: foofoofoo | November 18, 2010 8:31 AM | Report abuse

Ok so what is this bunch of BS. "Like all Americans, TSOs deserve to be treated with dignity and respect." They don't treat us with respect and we're Americans. Oh and the only line of defense that has ever worked against terrorism has been passengers and flight attendants. When are we going to get the respect we deserve!
I did not serve in the military to bring about this kind of an America! I served my country to protect peoples' rights, not to let some glorified security guard that thinks he's a hero in the "war on terror" to terrorize and humiliate the public. It is time for both the scanners and the enhanced pat-downs to go and at the very least the top half of TSA needs to be fired, they cost way too much, think too much of themselves and do too little. No more security theater -we should have ALL of our rights protected and TSA should be removed if they are too stupid to be able to do what Israel gets right.

Posted by: legalhound13 | November 18, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

"Juan Williams, has just said that if the Terrorists find out, or determine, that TSA will allow the little old blonde Swedish lady, in a wheelchair, to pass security, unscanned, "they" the Terrorists, will choose the little blonde Swede, to carry the bomb.. YEAH, right. The Terrorists are going to pay, or persuade, some non-Muslim to carry a bomb, onboard an Airliner???
Is this brilliant rationale, or what??"

Your comically naive view of the world, possibly coupled with political partisanship, is seriously clouding your judgment. This is exactly what happened with the underwear bomber - Al Qaeda recruited someone that looks like us. You're insulting the intelligence of others for pointing out reality. Sadly I suspect you'll learn nothing from this and continue in your blissful ignorance. No doubt Osama bin Laden appreciates your underestimation of his organization's intelligence, because that's usually how they win.

Posted by: BigTunaTim | November 18, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

I am boycotting all air ports with the dangerous radiation machines and personal sexual assault. Metal detectors are ok and luggage check are ok.
I will drive out of my way to use small airports only.
Abolish the TSA AND Homeland Security. Neither is keeping us safer as long as our borders are open to every one without a body scan and pat down search.

Posted by: roseyvonnerowleyanderson | November 18, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

1984. It's happening everyone. We no longer live in a free country, the terrorists are winning. They have changed the face of our nation forever. The time has come when we can no longer exercise our rights with out the fear of being persecuted. The mere fact that our citizens are being threatened by the TSA with arrest and a $10,000 fine for refusing to be searched beyond a certain degree and not fly is disgusting. How can someone be threatened with arrest and fines when they voluntarily decide not to fly when faced with an unconstitutional search? Yes, we do have other options for travel, but of course people are going to try to fly first. Many of us travelers, upstanding citizens, will make it through security without being asked to go through a scanner or have an "enhanced" pat-down. But then again we may be some of the many unfortunate citizens to be pulled to the side to go through these horrendous security protocols, and in refusing to be searched and declining to travel makes us all suspected terrorists that can then be arrested and fined. We should have the right to change our mind about flying up to the very last second and without having the fear of being persecuted and harassed by the TSA. Just because someone does not want to be searched beyond a certain degree does not mean that they are hiding anything, I believe it's more that one does not want to be further humiliated. In the instance with John Christina, he was not combative, nor violent. He did not violently punch the TSO, he was being playful, trying to make light of a situation that is aggravating at best. Did he make a mistake? Yes. He probably should not have "punched" the TSO, but should he be punished and arrested for battery? Absolutely not. Common sense and understanding has been thrown out the window by the power hungry TSA. As far as I know we, as United States citizens, still have the right to protest. The TSA is trying it's best to pretend that we do not have the right to protest their procedures. We have the right to protest anything in this country. The government cannot dictate what we can and cannot protest, and that includes the TSA. What they are doing is indicative of Fascism, I just hope that we The People still have the will and the power to stop this non-sense. Yes, of course we need security, but we need to retain our civil liberties in the process as well. This is all unchecked aggression toward our citizens and we have to stand up for ourselves. In the great words of "The Dude", "This will not stand. This aggression will not stand, man!" I could go on and on about this subject, but I will leave it at that.

Posted by: housinit | November 18, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

After reading the posts in this thread, I find it impossible to believe the CBS poll that said 80% of the public approves of full body x-ray scanners. Here, and at many other sites, it's 80% against.

Posted by: rupert31 | November 18, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

CBS polled Nancy Pelosi's district.

Posted by: getjiggly1 | November 18, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

legalhound13: "They don't treat us with respect and we're Americans." Heck, most Americans don't treat others with any respect, why should we start at the airport? "TSA should be removed if they are too stupid to be able to do what Israel gets right." See note above about Israel. First, we have many more airports (455)., and travelers (2 million per day). Do you really want the tax burden of paying for 125000 profilers, each taking 15-45 minutes of your time interviewing you, asking you questions about WHY you are going to see your friend in Chicago, every time you go for a flight? The Israelis have a different view of civil rights. They cede them in their battle against terrorism. And everyone says “hooray… look at the awesome Israelis!” One airport is easy to defend. Having to come up with a one size fits all solution for 450+ airports and people who think travelling with a baseball bat, hammer, bowie knife, and a small tank of gasoline is normal… well… I’m waiting for your suggestions.

roseyvonnerowleyanderson: No worries. Pretty soon all airports will use the dangerous machines and sexually assault you. and small airports.. guess what… they connect through big radiated and sexually assaulting airports. By the way… have you personally read any information regarding the radiation levels… or are you just parroting everything you read on the ‘net?

To all who think the punching was “ok”: Are you the same people that file ridiculous law suits when things go the other way (the teacher got upset with my child… the trauma!) Hitting a total stranger is not normal/acceptable behavior. Do you really “joke” with the bank teller and gently smack him in the face? Would you walk up to your CEO and “playfully” snap her bra? Would you grab a cop’s gun “just for fun”? Then why would you think it is ok to punch a guy in a uniform at a checkpoint in the chest whom you’ve never met? Grouse over beers? Sure. Write a letter of complaint to TSA, your Congressman, or the airport authority? Good idea. Propose alternative viable solutions? Awesome! But to say that punching this guy was a good idea?! C’mon!

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Posted by: itkonlyyou382 | November 18, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

IT WAS A SAD DAY WHEN WE BECAME POLITICALLY CORRECT!!!THESE DEMENTED LOWLIFE HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER OUR COUNTRY BUT MORE CRAZY ZEALOTS.THEY ARE TRAINED FROM INFANCY TO HATE CHRISTIANS AND ITS A GREAT THING TO COMMIT SUICIDE WHILE KILLING WOMAN AND CHILDREN.YOU CAN'T REASON WITH THEM,THEY THINK LIKE MADMEN!A RELIGION WITH A GOD THAT HATES EVERYONE EXCEPT THEM!THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION FOR THEM.TO BAD WE HAVE A MOSLEM LEADER OR WE COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT THEM!!!

Posted by: jamesweisbecker | November 19, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

OUR GREAT PRESIDENT HAS STARTED THE NO RIGHTS FOR CITIZENS OF THE US.JUST LIKE WHERE HE CAME FROM!

Posted by: jamesweisbecker | November 19, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Regarding the punching incident - Most passengers do not realize that there are two ways to get into real trouble with the TSA, other than trying to smuggle prohibited items through security. 1) Assaulting a Screener, and 2) Assaulting a Screener with a deadly weapon. Both carry maximum fines and jail time. Assaulting with a deadly can get you a whole lot of years in jail. TSA Needs to post this near the entrance to the screening area. Might help to defuse some tension.

Next Profiling. The problem with Profiling is not Profiling itself, but the word Profiling. It has for so long been linked to Racist acts. On the on hand we could change the name to something like Behavioral Screening. But on the other hand, we have a tendency in this society, that if offended by a word, we change the word, and then we change the word and then we change the word. Think about it, to keep myself from getting into trouble I'll site on example ... Washington Redskins were request by a group of people to change the name Redskins to something else. Bottom line is we are who we are, and changing names won't fix things. Whether you like the word profiling or not, it will happen. Just try and go through Israel's Airport Screening. They don't screen luggage, they screen people by behavioral profiling methods.

By the way, my ID NEDROW is case in point. At some point in history, a group of people with my last name broke away and reversed the spelling of it form Worden to Nedrow, and settled in a town in New York State south of Syracuse. My last name is Worden and I'm sticking with it. I use it as my ID because whether you spell forward or backward doesn't change the fact that I am me! Can't escape it, Ain't trying!

I rest my case .. I think
Steve Worden
Ex-TSS (which was changed TSO)
AKA EX-TSA Screener

Posted by: Nedrow | November 19, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

For those likening TSA personnel to Nazi Concentration Camp Guards, I urge you to go to the Holocaust Museum or just watch the History Channel. You people disgust me in your ignorance and hyperbole. TSA Agents may be infringing on your sense of personal space, and I do not agree that the combination of backscatter scans and invasive pat downs will accomplish anything.

However, Nazi CC Guards performed medical experiments, poisoned, brutally beat, and raped the prisoners in concentration camps. What the TSA Agents are doing is not even comparable to what Nazis did to prisoners in concentration camps. Wherever you people are getting your information from is creating a sense of unnecessary hysteria in you.

The backscatter scans only show an outline of your body. They do not show nipples, vaginas, or pensies. They are not in color or even gradiant-gray to the point of pornography. Yes, I believe that there should be exemptions for minors, especially for the pat downs.

Cut it out with the hyperbole (over-exaggeration for those that don't know what a hyperbole is). It serves absolutely no purpose, especially when not even anaolgized to a proper event. All you do is denigrate the Holocaust and its survivors.

TSA was started under the Bush II Administration, by the way. It's been useless since its inception.

Also, the more people create problems in the airports regarding this screening, the more delayed holiday travel will be. Some people just want to get home to their families, something you family-value types often clamor for.

Posted by: cartoongal | November 22, 2010 3:08 PM | Report abuse

The entire TSA approach is destroying whatever empathy the traveling public had with the screeners and at the same time it's designed to be more concerned with your place in line than with airline security.

Fact is Janet Napolitano's system ALLOWS 90% of all terrorists to get on the planes.

On the other hand it's catching all the colestomy bags and prosthetic appliances.

If you'd hired a madman to figure out a way to screen air travel customers he'd probably come up with this.

BTW, I understand completely why the guy with two metal plates, a fused wrist and a colestomy bag punched the TSA guy ~ frankly, I don't talk to those people ~ beneath my dignity plus entirely too many of them seem wired up to begin abusing people at the slightest perceived resistance or, worse, "weakness" hence their mindnumbingly persistent attacks on the handicapped and children.

I think they get that attitude from the wholly execrable management team in that Department.

Posted by: muawiyah | November 22, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

As an old woman who has seen a lot--J. Edgar Hoover, McCarthyism, etc.--this is the worst! This trade-off of all our personal rights just to travel in America is loathsome, illegal, expensive, and useless. And mark my words, it will get a lot worse if not curtailed.

There is more likelihood of being struck by lightening than of getting on a plane with a bomber. Frankly, I'd rather take my chances with real terrorists than give up all my freedoms to TSA--which translates to the T.otal S.ubjugation of A.mericans. Clearly, we've lost the battle against terrorism through sheer ignorance and cowardliness. Bush started this and Obama MUST stop it.

Posted by: barefootdesigns | November 24, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse


TSA Employee Accused Of Kidnapping, Sexual Assault

Not much has been made of this but it should be the lead story on ALL news networks.

I wonder if seeing her (or a lot of other women)naked on the scanner had anything to do with it?

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/news/25898312/detail.html

Posted by: robinTX54 | November 24, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

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