I do recall a few hits put out by the cia for careless mishandling of such documents. Mmm maybe $3 million is a fair price.

The fine is fair, but the real question is, after the time is up will the government collect the fine?

I still feel we need outside contractors (maybe retired government workers who had issues with their employer)to monitor some of these contracts. To know that classified information is not traced is unreal.

The computers that walked away from the Vets Admin and other government offices, there needs to be a tracing device placed in every computer that is purchased so that they can be traced and an alarm should go off when the computer is being moved outside the office. It should be loud just like the alarms that go off in a department store when you leave without the clerk disarming the loss prevention device.

If we are really going to be serious about trying to prevent someone from blowing your child, your mother or grandmother up, then let's really get serious!

What will happen is we'll continue to cry that we don't have enough employees and a large enough budget. As you continue to go to the Hill, another attempt could be made to destroy another buiding or area in the U.S. Let's bring our boys home and have them protect our own borders.

The amount of the fine is only as important as the attempts to collect. If collections efforts aren't in place then the amount of the fine has no relevance - there is no punishment if collection doesn't occur.

Demand for technolgies developed in Los Alamos is perhaps the ultimate goal of foreign espionage.

Consider bank robbery and the potential loss of a small independent bank robbed at gun point, the planned mercenary assualt in California on Bank of America, and the electronic compromise of the Federal Reserve Bank.

Los Alamos is the Holy Grail of classified material marketable at prices that can be paid by foreign government budgets.

If the plans for cutting edge missiles were to reach Iran, what is the strategic cost to the United States?

(1) Risk increase so serious it would make invasion of Iran mandatory
(2) Cost of countermeasures would include abandoning projects 30 years old
(3) Expenses for defensive technology would be rolled forward into the same year budget that had been allocated over 10 years.

The fine of $100 million levied by USDOJ against corporations committing fraud is common, therefore we should look at the damage done to society and say $1 billion is not unrealstic given the consequences of a trillon dollar loss.

If you contract everything in this country what do you expect? This country is totally out of control. GIGO.

The problem here is that we can build defenses against espionage that has failed. We don't know how successful espionage was committed. For instance, we know computers were stolen along with its contents, therefore the suggestion that tracking devices be installed so that whenever they leave the room an alarm is sounded. That's a good idea if you want to save the computers. What if the information in the computer is sent out over the internet to some unauthorized computer? Can we defend against that? Possibly by automatically encrypting all secret material which could be read only by similarly encrypted machines. Of course, we'd have to kill the person who developed the encryption mechanism.
There is no such thing as a fail safe system. We need far superior screening and selection systems for the personnel involved in national security; that includes elected officials who receive security clearances.

1) The University of California is a non-profit public service institution.
2) Until Bush-1 UC ran the labs (Los Alamos & Livermore) for $1/year.
3) Bush -1 insisted on UC getting paid ( ~ 27M/year). Since UC was non-profit they cycled this money into Scientific Institutes that trained grad students & post-docs in the sciences.
4) UC can only be fined up to amount of management fee.
5) The "fine" simply leads to firing some grad students and post docs. (Ever wonder why our country is losing its scientific edge?)
6) Washington gets to brag about "punishing" UC.

Question: Why is the approval rating of all the Washingtonities so HIGH/!

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I've seen discounts there as low as 75% off sticker Price.

A man is trying a very unusual way to propose to his girlfriend. He wants people to forward an email to as many people as possible and he hopes that it will eventually get to his girlfriend. Details here: http://www.proposal-to-mary.com

Here is what he wants people to send by email:

You could help me a lot to spread my proposal to Mary - it is important that it is distributed as widely as possible so that it eventually reaches Mary. If you would like to support my proposal to Mary, please send the following text by email to a lot of people :-)

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WHEN YOU RECEIVE THIS, PLEASE HELP TO DISTRIBUTE IT TO OTHER PEOPLE!

For a long time I have tried to find a special way to propose marriage to my girlfriend Mary, whom I know for five years now. I wanted it very special, romantic and memorable, something our grandchildren would still remember.

And here is my idea: I will send out the proposal to Mary to 50 complete strangers, people I don't know - hoping, that they will forward my proposal to as many people as possible, which in turn forward it etc. And some day, I hope, it will reach Mary, after it has travelled a very long way. I know, it will take a long time and I am quite nervous...

From the poem MY Mary will know immediately that the proposal is for her.

I have created a homepage ( http://www.proposal-to-mary.com ) where you can find the current status of my quest. You can use the homepage to check if the proposal has already reached Mary (in that case it is not necessary anymore to forward the mail).

Once the proposal has reached Mary, I will put a note on these pages. Also I will publish there how many people have read the proposal so that everybody can see how far it has spread and that it is getting closer to Mary.

And of course you will find there what I am waiting for most: Mary's answer! I can't tell you, how nervous I am... Will she accept my proposal? Will she like the unusual way how she got it, through the hands of thousands of messengers all over the world?

Please cross your fingers for me! And please - help me by sending the mail to as many people as possible, to help it spread, so that it eventually reaches Mary.

And here is my proposal:

Mary, please forgive me, as you know English is not my native language. And I am not a poet. But I mean it from my heart.

My angel,

Five years ago, I will always remember the day When fate made us meet, blissful Alaskan moments in May Earth spun around us and a journey began Love, warmth, happiness, enough the years to span.

The longer it lasts the more grows our bond And with 80 still - of you I will be fond Whatever happens, I will stay at your side Through good and bad, together let us stride

No second with you was ever wasted
You are the sweetest I have ever tasted
We have spent so many years - why not a life?
Mary, will you marry me - and become my wife?

Mary, if you have received that and have recognized me, then give me a sign so that I can continue with the romantic part of my proposal...

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