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Posted at 6:01 PM ET, 12/ 7/2010

Mike Shanahan has mishandled Albert Haynesworth

By LaVar Arrington

A long battle of wills finally came to an end on Tuesday afternoon. Albert Haynesworth was suspended for the rest of the season because of conduct detrimental to the Redskins.That would have made a whole lot of sense if it had happened with more than four games left in the season. The fact that it took place now begs another question:

Should Mike Shanahan be next? It seems as though his conduct has been more detrimental to the team than anyone else's. The way he handled this situation was harmful.

When Shanahan became the head coach in January, he had had more than enough time to evaluate the job he was accepting. To me, this means he had more than enough time to develop a plan for changing the environment at Redskins Park. To be successful, that strategy needed to be executed consistently until it became second nature to all of those who work under the watchful eye of the head coach. This did not happen in the case of Haynesworth.

When off season workouts began and Haynesworth showed up on the first day, then left the training facility and let it be known he would not be around for the entire off season and did want to be a Washington Redskin anymore, that was conduct detrimental to the team.

When mandatory mini camps took place and Haynesworth did not attend, that was conduct detrimental to the team.

When Haynesworth made a mockery of Shanahan's conditioning test, that was conduct detrimental to the team.

Should I keep going? How about practicing fewer than eight times during the course of an entire training camp? Yes, you guessed it -- conduct detrimental to the team.

What's most disturbing about all of these examples is that Haynesworth managed to do all of this before the first regular season game.

So although Haynesworth, the player, is certainly to blame for continuing to place his coaches and teammates in uncomfortable situations because of his conduct, it's Shanahan who should shoulder the most blame. I gave Shanahan his due after the Bears game in October, when Haynesworth played his best game of the season. But in retrospect the Haynesworth problem was still festering, and Shanahan could have addressed it long before now. With all of the insubordinate actions by Haynesworth before the regular season, it is preposterous to me that he wasn't suspended or released then. But he wasn't, and week after week and game after game there was always the Haynesworth story: Did he play? How did he play? Was he the difference? If he would've played would he have been the difference? The performance of the team always seemed to play second fiddle to the Haynesworth report.

Shanahan should have taken action when he failed the conditioning test repeatedly. He should have gotten out in front of the situation and handled it before it became so bad that it had the power to derail an entire season.

If the worst part of getting rid of Haynesworth would've been answering questions about whether Haynesworth would have been the difference in a game or not -- had he still been with the Redskins -- then so be it.

These are the issues that continue to plague the Redskins, and until measures are taken to correct them there will be more Albert Haynesworth story lines that play out, year after year.

By LaVar Arrington  | December 7, 2010; 6:01 PM ET
 
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Comments

This is the best take I've yet read on the situation. Great job LaVar. I'm in total agreement.

But there is "the missing" ingredient" you broached live on your show isn't there?

What influence has Snyder and his entourage at Ashburn had on Shanahan's decision making? Is he still overruling and overriding his head coach and manager? As he has in the past?

Without knowledge of this we can never know what really transpired with Haynesworth and the team?

I believe this is again a case where the Redskins have the worst possible owner. He means well but he may be the most incompetent, bumbling football owner in the history of the NFL. As long as Dan Snyder Inc. owns this team they may make money but they will never win.

Sooner than most realize, he and his Redskins might just get surpassed by the Lerners and their once doormat of a baseball team: the Washington Nationals in popularity as the deep pockets of the Lerners are carefully managed to product a consistent winning baseball franchise.

Posted by: periculum | December 7, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

Puh-leaze! LaVar can't drive motorcycle, but he thinks he could run a football team.

This was messy. But, cutting out tumors usually is.

LA is just another Washington media 'Skins hater.

Posted by: PS7900 | December 7, 2010 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I have to take issue with this because I find this position on AH ridiculous. Not attending VOLUNTARY mini-camps may be detrimental to the team, but it is hardly a punishable offense. "Making a mockery" of the conditioning test is also not a punishable offense. To accept this position is to basically say Shanahan was screwed no matter how he handled Haynesworth save by simply acquiescing to his demands by cutting him or changing the defense to a 4-3. LA, I'm not saying I've talked to members of the team, but it seems pretty clear from reporting that Shanahan has tried to make it work with a historically difficult to deal with player. If you want to bemoan anyone's role, go after Vinny Cerrato who set this up with the ridiculous contract that made AH untradeable...

Posted by: Gregariousterp | December 7, 2010 7:21 PM | Report abuse

This is another opportunity for you and your sidekick hot air chad to fill the airwaves and the print media about the hatred for the Redskins. Mike handled this in the way it should be handled, while your opinion on the other hand have blown where the winds have blown, you are not an analyst but a snyder and redskin hater. You should be suspended for your non objectivity and your continued hatred for the skins. Get over it Lavar!!!

Posted by: mazbar | December 7, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

This is a pretty riduculous point Lavar is making. Yeah he probably should have done something sooner, but it is clear AH is the cancer not Shanny. It isn't easy to suspend players in the NFL. In fact, it often gets overturned or maybe they don't play but the get the fine overturned. I think he just gathered enough evidence over time and now the season doesn't matter, the suspension makes sense. Why cut him, you have to pay him anyway and then with the skins luck, he'd get picked up by a playoff team and go to the SB. Shanny is not the problem, AH is. See Vonnie Holidays take on ESPN. It is too the point! He is a cancer!

Posted by: FrustratedFan1 | December 7, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Lavar, you were Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: lelandfinney | December 7, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I think Shanahan really wanted to give Haynesworth a chance, but 'not at the expense of the team.' to paraphrase from a 2008 article "Inside the Mind of Mike Shanahan" At the time that article was written, Shanahan was dealing with a slightly similar situation - a player testing positive for a banned substance. He hints that the player was 'a nice kid' and he would have liked to help, but not if it affects the team. So MAYBE this isn't over. Maybe during the offseason Shanahan works a little more with Haynesworth. To that point Haynesworth by not wanting to speak with Shanahan sounds like a teenager rebelling against his stern Dad. One thing's for sure, the Redskins did the right thing, they are trying to mold a winner, and you can't do that with a whiner on the team. Agreed they might have acted sooner, but this way they can max the suspension and that wraps up the season, leaving the offseason for what remains to be seen.

Posted by: bfjam | December 7, 2010 7:56 PM | Report abuse

Sick of both Shanahan and Fat Albert! They are both to blame. Fat Albert for being who he is, total waste of money and talent! Shanny for being the "old school" disciplinarian, without a clear plan.

We all know Fat Albert's faults. Now, let's look at Shanny's..... he hires a 3-4 defensive coordinator and our defense goes from top 10 to LAST! Maybe trying to put a square peg in a round hole????

Hires his son to run the McNabb led offense. Oh by the way, not sure if our annointed QB knows the plays or has the stamina to run a 2 minute offense..... ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!

I realize that the skins are deficient in talent but some of this HAS to be bad coaching! The coaches game plan and they bring out the talent in each athlete. Shanny and his coaches have done neither of the two.

I don't believe in Shanny anymore. I don't think any coach can reclamate the skins, unless the management agrees to a 5 year re-building commitment.

By the way, Lavar is an ex-player, so his view on this issue is a bit biased.

Posted by: sd-bones | December 7, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

Even at this late date, with the repeated misconduct by AH, the suspension will be appealed. Even if Snyder allowed a suspension earlier, no way would it have stuck.

They gave AH a chance as one would with any large financial investment. He blew it.

Off to the Buffalo Bills with him for a 99th round draft pick.

Posted by: sun_devil01 | December 7, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Albert, like anyone, is responsible for the their own actions. Making excuses that others contributed to his behavior or actions is pathetic. Albert is not 10 years old Levar, he is a grown man. He should be held accountable for his behavior. Making excuses is typical of the priveledged athletic culture that you come from Levar.

Posted by: cabraman | December 7, 2010 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Haynesworth was hungover! If you spend any time at Reston Town Center, you know that that guy is out carousing all the time. What a sack.

Posted by: nathanaevans | December 7, 2010 8:22 PM | Report abuse

Really bad article.How again do you have a job at the post. Fat Albert is human garbage and will not be missed.To blame Shanahan makes me think you haven't been paying attention this year.

Posted by: cbushea55 | December 7, 2010 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Marvin Lewis called LaVar Arrington..."the most undisciplined player I've ever coached."

Posted by: silkydee1 | December 7, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Lavar

You have a point but Shanny won two Superbowls. Nobody currently in this franchise other than Shanny can say that. He inherited one heck of a mess when he took this job on. Danny treats the team like his own fantasy football league. I will say that his coaches do not seem that good. Kyle should be fired and so should Hazlett. Keep Mike. On another note I believe The Danny tied Mike's hands. Why not after doing the dumbest signing in NFL history. I guess he wanted to get at least two seasons. This will be the nastiest fight between an owner and a player in the history of The NFL. I do respect AH a little bit. He took The Danny to the cleaners. That really is enoyable. If anything having The Danny being the laughing stock of The NFl is enjoyable. I wish he would sell the team. The Danny even managed to lose Bill Gates 120 million.

Posted by: pkme | December 7, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

LA - the most disparaging source of objectivity on all things Redskings - takes yet another shot at Shanahan. Didn't see that coming.
Funny how LA is quick to tell fans they don't know anything compared to a former player, yet LA knows everything about the roles of head coach and GM. Of course.
LA also knows how to honor a contract peacefully. And, all his rants about how he was punked by the Skins actually implies quite the opposite--that he was just another young punk diva that wanted to his own thing.

Posted by: pgugino | December 7, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Folks stop buying Redskins Jerseys, buying $7 beers,$6 hotdogs , paying $25 for parking and paying to seat in that cess pool Fedex field. The best way to punish The Danny is his wallet. He appears to be a dreadful guy but mostly he is incompetent. Why people would drive out to Fedex to watch this sorry team is beyond me. I would rather watch high school football for free.

Posted by: pkme | December 7, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

boycott Snyder.

Posted by: pkme | December 7, 2010 8:50 PM | Report abuse

everybody on here hating on lavar get your dang head out the sand. He did nothing but state facts. AH is definitely at fault but shanahan has also screwed up the situation royally. you telling me he just figured out that AH was a pain in the a**? If you dont like him, trade him when he had some trade value. Same with DT. If you dont like a guy dont waste time embarrasing him and driving down his trade value. Get rid of him! If our coaches name wasnt mike shanahan, he'd already be on the hot seat. dude hasnt made one good personnel or coaching decision all year. That's not hating, that's facts.

Posted by: zvick11 | December 7, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

According to the NFLPA. A "team" can only suspend a player for a maximum of four games.

Additionally, this "Late move" affords the Redskins an opportunity too go after some of there/ Albert's money.

This is going too arbitration. The Redskins have built a good case. And they[sic] will win.

Posted by: Defund_NPR | December 7, 2010 9:20 PM | Report abuse

... USED to be a big fan of LA. But Duke's and his rants are getting old. I guarantee Lavar is not writing these articles, all-by-himself. "you can take people out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto out of the people."

Posted by: funaki | December 7, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

LaVar is, as usual, an idiot. Does everyone forget that Fat Boy was asked, point blank, if he was on board with the switch in schemes before he accepted that $20m?

He's nothing but a fat t*rd, and LaVar is just a stupid t*urd.

Posted by: js1960 | December 7, 2010 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Dear LaVar,

Just when you were starting to get a bunch of the Redskins faithful (such as myself) to give you another shot here on WP and look past what an a-hole you were when you were a Redskin...you come out with this absurd turd of a post...siding with the guy who has been an a-hole all season and going against the coach who has instilled more fight, camaraderie, and character into this team than we've seen in a LONG time....what a jerk!

Sure, they haven't won all the games I'd have liked, but in my eyes we are moving in a much better direction...you can feel it and see it in the players that have bought in and the fact that they are at least upset this year when they lose instead of moping around like they've done for years. You can see it in the mere fact that we have a bunch of young players getting a shot to make a difference and creating some excitement (Banks!)....

So, to take the side of the ONE player who has been consistently moving in the opposite direction of the rest of the team and has clearly followed his own self interests over those of the team speaks volumes to the fact that you haven't changed one bit...

Good riddance to AH and if you were a TRUE Redskin fan, you'd say the same...

Posted by: rot8tor_man | December 7, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Shanahan is a loser, Haynesworth will go any where else and be a probowl player. With shanahan its his way or the highway. With shannys attitude he will never win again. Fire shanny and bring in a winner. Someone who knows how to get the best out of his team. Shanny you turned a good defense into the worst in the league.

Posted by: wohwinner | December 7, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, Lavar Arrington was the same kind of player with the same kind of attitude... enormous potential and wanting to do it "my way." Of course he defends Haynesworth. Players get paid a lot of money to give everything they've got. They're not coaches and don't deserve to run the show. That's not what they're being paid for.

Posted by: OintheSierras | December 7, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Dannyboy hired his only buddy Shannah, who apparently has figured out that everyone isnt the same.
I guess under his rules John Riggins and the Hogs would be out. Great coaches make the best of the players they have.

Coaches like Shannah go to the Superbowel when they have once in a lifetime players like Elway. That won't ever happen in Washingon.

Redskins only chance is in lucking into a great QB draft and as everyone knows that like playing roulette with one chip.

If Shanahan's so great a coach why didnt he recognize the talent could handle a 3-4 defense?
If Shanahan's so why did he let Devin Thomas go ? He played well with the Giant's after two weeks with them.
If Shanahan's so great why didn't he figure out a way to motivate AH?
If Shanahan's so great why can't they Redskins score more then 17 points offensively?
If Shanahan's so great why didnt he go after more offensive linemen?
Is Shanahan's so great why is this team so bad? No offense No defense
With out PURE LUCK they'd be 2-14 ...this is as bad of a team DANNYBOY HAS EVER HAD !!

ATTA BOY DANNY BOY STILL RULEs

Posted by: dannyboyrules | December 7, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: Defund_NPR | December 7, 2010 9:20 PM

The Skins have put together a good case? They will be laughed out of arbitration court with their claims. I can tell my your handle your not the brighest fellow so I will keep it simple for you. Shanahan is responsible for this entire situation. He thought he was going to make an example out of Haynesworth and he picked the wrong person. Haynesworth is complicit in this situation but Shanahan is to blame.

First and foremost the coach is supposed to take the high road. Shanahan has repeatedly throughout the season leaked information and stories to his ESPN mouthpiece and former Denver Post reporter, Adam Schefter. He not only did it to Haynesworth he also did it to McNabb. Shanahan has been a joke. He's been in the NFL for over two decades so unlike Zorn he has been to this rodeo before. More importantly Shanahan has created the type of problems that wont be resolved within a year or two. This team has clearly regressed. His personnel decisions have been questionable. Both his offense and defense have been questionable. His handling of players has been more than questionable. He won his superbowls in the 90's with veteran teams on the coattails of Dan Reeves and John Elway. He has never built a winner and he also never maintained one. Lavar had it right, we know Haynesworth is on his way out. Why shouldnt Shanahan join him? If they act now they would have an opportunity to let Russ Grimm lead this team and rebuild from the bottom as they should have last year instead of wasting draft picks on veterans who are done.

Posted by: KingJoffeJoffer | December 7, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan's record in has last 60 games is 29-31. Just like all the players who were brought into this town past their prime, so has this coach. The stats don't lie.

He is a poor judge of talent. He cut Brandon Banks, Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, the teams best producers. Only bringing them back because of injury.

He authorized changing a Top 10 defense to a different system. Not change for the better, but change just to change. That unit has 6 All Pro's and 7 First Round draft picks. This staff has coached them to be the worst unit in football.

In lieu of teaching a young, athletic and talented QB and WR, he let's them go. Replacing them with other "has beens" like himself.

He has alienated the team and it's only a matter of time before it shows outwardly.

Coach is a defensive, dishonest, Napoleonic egomaniac. And those are his good qualities. He's been fired twice for good reason. We can only hope his third firing occurs in a timely fashion.

Posted by: jmueller7 | December 7, 2010 10:36 PM | Report abuse

Right on Lavar. Anyone who hoped Shananhan had learned some humility after his firing in Denver has woken up to the worrisome reality. It's helpful to remember that Shanahan used to call himself "The Ultimate Leader" back then. Is it too late for Snyder to trim some of his authority? That seems like the best decision right now. Do we really want this man making all personnel decisions for the Redskins for the next 2-4 years?

Posted by: rfjh1 | December 7, 2010 10:48 PM | Report abuse

What's missing from LaVar's post and most of the comments is the perspective of an employer and manager. Most people have not been either.

As a manager, you always hope to get the best out of people...and the norm for good managers is to keep trying one more time and then one more time again. Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to motivate employees like Haynesworth who don't think they need to follow rules and would be glad to be fired.

Shanahan is human and fallible and maybe he should have done things differently. But this is the hardest situation a manager faces in ordinary business. Add in the public glare and the upfront payments to the troubled employee...and maybe there really was nothing Shanny could have done to get AH's buy-in. None of us knows exactly what/how much he did behind the scenes.

Having done what a manager should do....believe a productive relationship was possible....we are now kicking him because it failed. If he knew in advance what would happen, maybe he would have pushed AH out sooner. But that's purely hindset.

Posted by: StevenGrossman | December 7, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Man, am I glad to read all the comments about Lavar Arrington's negativity. I was beginning to think I was the only one who remembered what kind of Redskin he was...just another arrogant, prima donna who thought he new better than the coaches. Sounds familiar. Remember when Arrogant wouldn't listen to Gregg Williams? That guy just won a Super Bowl.

Let's face it, the only reason Lavar Arrogant...I mean Arrington...has a job as a radio "personality" is because no one in the football industry is interested in what this guy has got. I would love to see Arrogant try a real job, like Shanahan, who has to make real decisions, as opposed to Arrogant who's only skill is giving an opinion. I was glad Shanahan took this approach with Haynesworth. What else could the guy do?

Thank you Redskin fans for seeing through this guy. It takes a whole lot of work to fix a train wreck, and that's what the Skins have been the past 15 years. This is the first year of trying to clean up some of the wreckage. They've got a long way to go. Let's hope they stay the course.

Posted by: PizzaMike | December 7, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

This is laughable!!!! Damn if you do, and damn if you don’t. No matter what you do, you are a loser and that seems just perfect for these low thinker blubber mouths, it allows them to spew their unintelligible barbs.
Wasn’t this guy one of the people who bashed the Skins' coaching staff for not giving “The Great” Devin Thomas a chance? Well, one great play later and two other teams and the guy is still no making it. But hey, let us not be distracted by reality that the coaches know more than we do, and lets just say it is the white man doing it to the black man.

Posted by: hock1 | December 7, 2010 11:31 PM | Report abuse

LaVar, what a crock.

Posted by: billbane1 | December 7, 2010 11:54 PM | Report abuse

This is the kind of article that makes me stop listening to LaVar. At this point everyone agrees that Haynesworth had to go.

If Shanahan had fired him during the pre-season, let me guess, LaVar would have criticized Shanahan for not giving him a chance, and would have come up with a list of Haynesworth's fine qualities.

Now that he's being fired in week 13, LaVar criticizes him for acting too late.

It's easy to sit here in our arm chairs and criticize everything that takes place. It's a lot harder to motivate a bunch of overpaid twenty-somethings and win football games. The only good news in this drama is that Haynesworth might be the last candy ass on the roster. Maybe we can finally move forward.

LaVar, if you want to write something worth reading, instead of just spouting off criticisms like every other blogger, how about offering some solutions? The Redskins have been a losing team for nearly 20 years, you have any bright ideas on how to change that? If not, then you're going to have a hard time separating yourself from the pack of bloggers who like to take cheap shots from the cheap seats.

Posted by: unclelonghair | December 8, 2010 12:10 AM | Report abuse

Like the ESPN show "Come'on man!!" We all know prima donnas in any sports will always try to push the envelope to see what they can get away with and how much.. like a 2 yr old kid testing the parents patience. Fat Albert knows that getting paid to play football is a priviledge for a choosen few. Once he hit the lotto & got his $$$$ guaranted he didn't have to earn it anymore!! He knew no matter what he did, he will never earn another contract like the one he signed!! So his mind was made up from that point on! The only constant is that this situation continues every year with the Redskins since Snyder bought the team. I'm a die-hard Skins fan win or lose!! I just hope that this is the beginning of a HUGE CHANGE of attitude in the Skins organization and that is to WIN!! There's a new sheriff in town and his name is Mike Shanahan!!! Let the rebuilding begin!! HTTR if you are a die hard fan!!

Posted by: maspika | December 8, 2010 12:12 AM | Report abuse

This kind of article and criticism by the media is not hatred for team. When you hate a team, you don't care when they fall apart. It certainly doesn't make you mad as hell about obvious mistakes made by the management and primadonna players acting out.

Only those who love and want the team to win care enough to get mad as hell when things go this wrong.

Posted by: smshadowman | December 8, 2010 12:19 AM | Report abuse

Lavar,

Wow, are these comments polarized! Many of them reaching into the realm of stupidity.

Perhaps you could clarify your opinion by gauging a percentage of who's to blame for the Haynesworth/Shanahan feud, and how much it affects the team's win/loss record.

I'd say 60% Haynesworth's fault for being actively antagonistic, and 40% Shanahan's fault for hypocrisy in not getting rid of him while getting rid of others he did not want.

You'd know more about how such controversies affect the team, but I'll hypothesize maybe... 10% negative distraction to 85% ability to actually win (5% for luck).

regards,

Dave

Posted by: dave_fjeld1 | December 8, 2010 1:14 AM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan's record in has last 60 games is 29-31. Just like all the players who were brought into this town past their prime, so has this coach. The stats don't lie.

He is a poor judge of talent. He cut Brandon Banks, Ryan Torain and Keiland Williams, the teams best producers. Only bringing them back because of injury.

He authorized changing a Top 10 defense to a different system. Not change for the better, but change just to change. That unit has 6 All Pro's and 7 First Round draft picks. This staff has coached them to be the worst unit in football.

In lieu of teaching a young, athletic and talented QB and WR, he let's them go. Replacing them with other "has beens" like himself.

He has alienated the team and it's only a matter of time before it shows outwardly.

Coach is a defensive, dishonest, Napoleonic egomaniac. And those are his good qualities. He's been fired twice for good reason. We can only hope his third firing occurs in a timely fashion.

Posted by: jmueller7 | December 7, 2010 10:36 PM |

GREAT POST. Nailed it. He's a fraud. He's a conman. He's Spurrier without the golfing and one liners.

And LaVar is right, too. How did I, a NOBODY, call this back when Haynesworth said he wanted out... through his agent, no less? How did I know he'd be a cancer on the team?

BECAUSE IT'S COMMON FREAKING SENSE!!

I would have sat on him, eaten all the money and watched him balloon to 450 lbs on the practice squad. I would make his career completely disappear.

Along with the drama, the distraction, and the attitude.

But, hey, I'm no genius... not like Shananahan. He really worked THIS situation. I'll tell you. I'm not sure it could have been played any worse. I'm trying to think how he could have made it even worse, but I don't think it's possible. I think he made is so much worse than nearly anybody on the planet could have.

Hats off to Shananananahn. The guy is a real genius at working with people.

Posted by: Thinker_ | December 8, 2010 2:46 AM | Report abuse

According to the NFLPA. A "team" can only suspend a player for a maximum of four games.

Additionally, this "Late move" affords the Redskins an opportunity too go after some of there/ Albert's money.

This is going too arbitration. The Redskins have built a good case. And they[sic] will win.

Posted by: Defund_NPR | December 7, 2010 9:20 PM |

Your dewing it on porpoise, rite? I am reeferring too all you're third graid gramer erorrs.

Defund NPR, huh? And let's go ahead and take that money and buy you some English classes. Sound like a plan?

forget it. waste of time. just go about your Sarah Palin chasing life. Vote out "The Kenyan" and on with the destruction of the country right? I mean, who needs basic education when you can let lying corporate entities in lipstick tell you what to think. Or what not to. In fact, don't think at all. Just go forth, into the world, spewing what we told you.

You actually disgust me. It wouldn't be so bad except that there are millions of "people" just as depressingly dim and motivated as you are.

Posted by: Thinker_ | December 8, 2010 2:56 AM | Report abuse

Lavar you're an idiot and a loser. You know nothing about coaching only how to give your own coach headaches.

Posted by: thorhero | December 8, 2010 7:50 AM | Report abuse

yo thinker, that is some deep Obama but this is a blog about the worst team in any sport,on any continent, including antarctica. Not Palin. LA is correct but did not add that Shanibag (the glass eyed weasel) is at the root of the problem going back to not kicking him out on day one. Macaca's brother should have found a way to send him someplace then. they gave him all his money up front and just like welfare, if i feed you and pay you to do nothing, you probably will do nothing. poor people need help, NFL players don't. solve the problem by paying based on performance like working class folks get (unless you are a govt. worker..that is a form of welfare).

Posted by: doyouktt | December 8, 2010 8:17 AM | Report abuse

It's great to read all these comments because I had a feeling WJFK was censoring callers that disagreed with Lavar yesterday. I was steaming and called in only to be told "I'll pass your thoughts along." And as I kept listening, caller after caller of guys that agreed with Lavar. Sorry Lavar, no censoring here in the Post. And a lot of the comments are dead on. You should like a bitter ex-Redskin with an axe to grind. Forget celebrating ridding of this tumor from the Redskins; you simply acknowledge it and move on to your favorite target these days, Mike Shanahan. And so many of your on air comments were off base yesterday. You even had Dukes on tilt as you tried to tear down his example of Magic playing center by saying something along the lines of, "should Albert play quarterback?" How absurd. Regimes change; and new regimes have different systems. Albert was asked to play nose tackle. Big deal. Give me a break. As for Shanahan, he has set performance expectations for Haynesworth all along. That's exactly what you do as a manager with a poor performing employee. In so many words, he told him that if he took that check, he expected him to perform. He also expected to be in shape, to practice hard, and to be on time to team meetings. When Albert failed to meet any of those expectations, Shanahan de-activated him. That's exactly the way he should have handled it. Changing a culture of losing takes time LaVar. Shanahan let everyone know that no one man, no matter how much money he makes, will not be bigger than the team. Was it a distraction? Sure. But you sure are taking a lot of credit from the other professionals on this team by inferring that it cost the Skins games. Would you have played any differently if something like this was going on when you were in the burgundy and gold? I doubt it. As for Shanahan, his resume speaks for itself. Sure he only won one playoff game over the course of eight years (I think). But he consistently was in the playoffs. And Skins fans would take that in a heartbeat after these last 10-12 years.

You're behavior yesterday was absurd and borderline childish at times. Throwing out absurd analogies and continuously disagreeing with some of your guests was detrimental to your listener's ears. And keep tossing out lines like "that's a fact" and "I only played the game; what do I know?" Yeah, your true colors are starting to shine through. It's as if you're doing everything in your power to perpetuate WJFK as the anti-Redskins station. And while I like Dukes because he speaks the truth as much as possible, we can all tell that he gets in line a bit too often because he's star struck by your presence. That's a shame because the guy is much more objective than you are. Then again, he doesn't have an axe to grind like it appears you do.

Posted by: Matt252 | December 8, 2010 8:30 AM | Report abuse

Lavar , professionals dress like them . How about you get that rat hair of your cut and maybe start stopping that I bleed redskens colors . You lie ! You need to hang out with BMitch maybe he can teach you about the TRUE meaning of being a REDSKIN . If you do not beleive me that you need to be taught just ask CP . One other thing tell chatty chad the tv camera adds 30 pounds to he beer gut ! lol

Posted by: doggydodo | December 8, 2010 8:55 AM | Report abuse

Some of y'all mfkrs w/ these posts..... SMDH. Hateful, ignorant, idiotic, 'no-life having' a.s.s. people!

Posted by: delfranklin4 | December 8, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Wrong, LaVar. The bottom line is that Shanahan gave Haynesworth every opportunity to be an effective player on but Haynesworth chose not to. He acted like a spoiled brat from the beginning and continued to do so. If he thought the 3-4 defense was SOOOO hard to play in, then why did he accept the salary bonus? By accepting the bonus, it says that you buy in to the program. The last straw had to be when Haynesworth said he wasn't going to speak to Shanahan again. Really, LaVar? THAT'S Shanahan's fault.

Posted by: linroy62 | December 8, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Sorry LaVar I can't agree with you on this one. IF we were talking about how Shanahan handled the McNabb benching I would agree he screwed the pooch on that one. But with Albert, he can't suspend a guy for not showing up to OTA's so it's not conduct detrimental to the team. Ok he's a no show at mandatory training camp, fine him, no different than a player holding out because they want a new contract. Still you can't suspend him at that point. Now the conditioning thing, if you want to send him packing at that time then maybe but is being out of shape recognized legally as "conduct detrimental to the team"? Probably not. Basically I'm saying SHanahan HAD to allow this to play out in some fashion or he'd have no legal leg to stand on. Laying out insubordination and ignoring coaches, late to meetings, missing practices habitually now you can point to a pattern of problems that may then include all those early incidents. People criticize Shanahan as being inflexable, spsiteful, and a "my way or the highway" kind of guy. I think he probably is all that. You can;t apply those terms to him in this situation. The problem of course is you can't pay a guy that kind of money in any business and not give ample time for the employee to get with your program. You certainly couldn;t cut him out as early as you suggested.

Don;t misunderstand the cancer needed to be removed. You just can't do it as early as you suggest here. You have to give the guy enough rope to hang himself. Which they always do.

Posted by: 1bigdad | December 8, 2010 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Dan Snyder is the washington redskins. He dominates every single person who comes through the door. He overpays them and then beats them to death. Not even hall of fame coach Joe Gibbs could put up with him. Now he owns Mike Shanahans soul. Mike needs to just sit down with the press and tell us what he is doing. The fans can handle what we already know. This is not a good team. It will take rebuilding. Doing the secretive vindictive stuff just does not work. Just lay it out and pay the price for 11 years of bad management.
We can handle it.

Posted by: HelloNewman53 | December 8, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

It's predictable that you would relate to Haynesworth, Lavar. After all, you were the same team chemistry-killing type of player when you played for the Redskins. Shanahan handled in the best way he possibly could. He gave Haynesworth chance after chance, and AH failed to live up to his contract. Now, the Redskins can still get some trade value from him, and they will recoup some of their bonus money. As for your journalistic abilities, Lavar... you suck.

Posted by: adamleehankins | December 8, 2010 9:49 AM | Report abuse

Lavar, I generally agree with you, and you make many good points here. However, I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion. We all saw that the Haynesworth situation was likely to blow up at some point. If Shanahan can be faulted here, it would be because he wanted to have his cake and eat it. Perhaps Shanahan believed that he and Haslett could turn Haynesworth around. No normal person ever likes to give up on a person. Plus, the Skins D in the short run was obviously better off with Haynesworth than without him. This was a judgment call, and unfortunately he obviously made the wrong call. The question was really simple: do we want to win now, or do we cut our losses and prepare for the future. Keeping Haynesworth as long as the Skins did was all about winning now. We all have seen how that has ended. Hopefully, the lesson learned is the team still needs to be blown up. The team should follow the recipe suggested by B Mitch, which most long-term fans would agree with. #1 Rebuild the O-line; #2 Rebuild the D-line; #3 go out and get specialty players. Given the Skins draft position, I'm not sure how Allen and Shanahan will be able to pull that off. This team will probably be less than mediocre for a few more seasons. That doesn't bode well for Kyle's future.

Posted by: dannykurland1 | December 8, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I agree with Lavar...but I'm more strongly against Shanahan on this one. he could have found a way to make Haynesworth a vital part of the D. They are better with him on the field. His rigid ego BS was detrimental in this case. (Reminds me of a certain former D coodrinator and Lavar, who should have had a Hall of Fame career leading the Burgundy and Gold for many years). Shanahan needs to start performing. Why is the offesne so sloppy? there so often no sense of ugency? Why do we look so clueless sometimes? Is this not a reflection on the coach????? Not calling for his head -- coaches need time. But we need to start seeing somethingf. In the last games of 2010. I think we beat Tampa...but Dallas looks like a 3rd straight blowout to a division foe, sorry to say. Make Me wrong, pleaase!!!!!!

Posted by: NYskinsfan2 | December 8, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Lavar....you will always be one of my favorite Redskins players of all time, but it's really time to have that giant chip on your shoulder surgically removed.

Posted by: yampaco | December 8, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

NYskinsfan2,
Why do you feel the need to kiss up to Lavar so much? Lavar was a pathetic teammate (exactly like Haynesworth) and he definitely wasn't a potential hall of famer. This situation was not caused by Shanahan--it was completely Haynesworth's fault. A player should be willing to do WHATEVER the coaches ask of him. Haynesworth thought he was above the team, and he thought he could do whatever he wanted. Even when he was on the field, he didn't give maximum effort. DID YOU SEE THE PLAY WHERE HE LAID ON THE GROUND WHILE MIKE VICK WAS RUNNING AROUND HIM?

Posted by: adamleehankins | December 8, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Lost in all the emotion and finger-pointing is a simple question:

If Shanahan had implemented a verison of the Tennessee Titans/Detroit Lions 4-3, with AH at his natural position and Orakpo and Carter at DE, would the Skins defense been better or worse? Would all this controversy have been avoided?

Since the answer to both questions is clearly yes, Shanahan has to bear the lions share of the blame. He failed miserably at managing the transition from Zorn/Blatch, and he failed miserably at motivating and getting their money's worth out of their most dominant player, AH. Now he has lost the team, as they see asskissing is more important than talent. It's not like this was the only bizarre personnel decision he made either. Players have to wonder what is going on when Galloway and Roydell Williams are kept and Thomas is cut. When the coach actually thinks washed-up RBs are an option, when we could have signed a guy like LaGarrett Blunt. When he wastes valuable picks on an aging QB, then undermines him.

Posted by: Iamhumongous | December 8, 2010 10:58 AM | Report abuse

We can argue all we want as to who to blame in th AH saga. Here's what we can't argue about - maybe this will point to the winners and losers in this whole drama:

1. AH was a two time pro-baller before coming to DC
2. He's already cashed his $21 million guaranteed money
3. He's going to move to another team and improve that team's defense and get more money
4. Coach Shanahan and his apprentices have turned a consistently top defense into the worst in the league
5. He tried this same tactics with McNabb before he realized that McNabb has an uncomparable reputation to his
6. With or without AH, the teams has played poorly


Next season AH won't be here and Shanahan will pick another scapegoat to blame for another bad season.

Posted by: Ish1 | December 8, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

The Redskins are 5-7, so obviously Albert Haynesworth is just one of the situations that Shanahan has mishandled this year. Most of Shanahan's personnel moves have been head scratchers and have failed miserably, with the exception of Brandon Banks. But is it wise to use Banks on punts and kickoffs? I don't think so. That's too heavy of a workload for a guy that small. I'm more angry about Devin Thomas, Marko Mitchell, and Antwan Randell El than I am Albert Haynesworth.

Posted by: deshackleford | December 8, 2010 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Shannahan is a joke i said this weeks ago,Haynesworth should have been suspended before the season started. Mike Shannahan not only mishandled Fat Al's situation but numerous other's connected to this team. The defense ranked in the top ten last year is currently ranked last and the laughing stock of pro football. He threw his starting pro bowl QB under the bus to protect his know-nothing son who supposedly runs the offense and of course had to recant everything he said during the bye week to keep a team wide muitiny from happening.Dan Synder has again screwed up and actually he's the one who should be called on the carpet but as we all know that ain't happening.

Posted by: dargregmag | December 8, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Someone said earlier that Lavar was Haynesworth. I have to say--Lavar was my favorite Redskin until he pulled the exact same crap that Haynesworth did. Exactly the same--no differences--NONE. Bottom line: Haynesworth is a piece of crap and Lavar's opinion is massively biased.

The skins played it smart and are going to try their best to get something in return for another horrible mistake made by Cerato/Snyder. So, don't dare put this on Shanahan. Allen and Shanahan had to build a case and it takes time. People would have whined just as hard if we let this bum go earlier anyway. We all knew this season was a rebuilding year--so this is part of the rebuilding--write it off on your 1090 long form and move on.

The biggest problem with the Redskins right now is being 2nd guessed all the time by fans and the Washington Post. What did everyone expect after 2 years of insanity under Zorn? This is a 3 year process to get young and find out who wants to ball out. This was the most dysfunctional organization in the NFL when Snyder pulled all the strings---just last year. Now, Snyder knows that his way failed---this is the last evidence of it. Give Shanahan 2 more years, then judge him and this most recent decision on Haynesworth. I guarantee your tune will change.

Posted by: danminter | December 8, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

I think Lavar makes some good points but you can't criticize Shanahan for giving Haynesworth a chance. It is Haynesworth's fault that he has reneged on the promise he made before the club gave him the $20 million. He broke his word and there is no excuse for his behavior. Once he had the money Shanahan was responsible to ownership to get something out of the twenty million investment. You can't blame the man for that. The mistake the Redskins made is not trading him the minute he started grumbing. Anyone who makes the kind of money Haynesworth does and is a malcontent is a cancer to an organization and must be disposed of ASAP.

Posted by: martinson1 | December 8, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

LaVar- Shanahan inherited Haynesworth- and you are smarter than this....you know better.

Posted by: poppysue85 | December 8, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Not Shanny's fault. The only reason this didn't happen sooner was $$$/and lawyers. Lawyers were concerned about financial liability under the CBA. Management hoped that if they feigned interest in keeping the guy, then maybe he might be worth something in a trade. After the trade deadline he had a couple of decent fill-in moments. Fast forward a couple weeks and now he's cut. I don't think Shanny could have done anything differently.

Posted by: bermudml | December 8, 2010 12:56 PM | Report abuse

Wow, thanks Lavar, I mean "Captain Obvious!"
Lavar, get your head out of your @$$.
Cutting a man that was guaranteed this type of money is not easily done despite Big AL's regular episodes of insubordination.
Another poster basically summed it up best by saying......"You can't just Rip tumors out" and that is exactly the case here.
OBVIOUSLY, cutting his fat butt would have been great. It's just not so easy when your idiot owner has invested so much money. On top of that they needed to try and let it play it. Of course, with Dan's luck, NOTHING plays out well for him and frankly, Dan deserves nothing good for who he has been as an owner. He's essentially insane because he does the same unproductive thing over and over and over.
The one thing that continues to be in question for Shanny was the move to the 3-4. This team did not and still does NOT have good 3-4 personnell. They were a top 5 defensive unit for the last few years. I know they wanted more turnovers but they also knew Big Al did not want to play a 3-4. Maybe they should have waited to make this change.

Posted by: bernarddeane | December 8, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Another special from Lavar and Do*che. Of course the Skins are wrong, of course management is to blame, of course he was too stupid to read his own contract to realize 6 million was missing and will, day in and day out, bore radio listeners with his useless rants against the Redskins. And that really is a shame, because when he finally becomes un-emotional and detached, he does have some salient points.

I would suggested leaving the DC market to blossom.

Posted by: zap123 | December 8, 2010 1:17 PM | Report abuse

LaVar is the only player in NFL History to try to renegotiate his contract the day after he signed it. He has no credibility.

Posted by: astrober1 | December 8, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Gee, thanks for the brilliant analysis Captain Obvious, I mean Lavar.
Get off your high horse for a moment and think about your suggestion to get rid of Albert last offseason.
Another poster made a good analogy to this situation by saying "You can't just Rip a tumor out of your body." That is obviously the case here.
You simply could NOT cut Big Al last August despite his continual insubordination because of the money that was involved. You had to let it play out, see if he'd be true to his word, and of course, build your case if he didn't stay true to his word.
Obviously, he has given them plenty to build a case against him and hopefully, they can get rid of his lazy butt.
It's just not as simple as YOU suggested Lavar.
The one thing you should question is why Shanny moved a top 5 4-3 to a 3-4 without the personell to support it, particularly when they knew Big Al was NOT on board with it. We all know they wanted more turnovers but again......there's that personnell issue......They DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PLAYMAKERS. End of story.
Maybe they knew he'd whine and that they could use the move to get rid of Al quicker but that is simply a poor choice if that is the case.

Posted by: bernarddeane | December 8, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Love Lavar, but I think you missed it on this one. No matter what happened, after Haynesworth took that check, Shanny made it his job to make sure people in this organization understood that upper officials of this team were not going to be taken advantage of. This was a learning experience for the whole organization. Shannahan never intended for Haynesworth to play past this season for the Skins and he now has an example for the team of what not to be. Teammates now know what it means to be a team, and to come together and fight for the same cause. We haven't had that kind of mindset in almost (wait, not almost) 20 years. No way was Shannahan supposed to let Haynesworth take the money, then get cut, and go to some other team and enjoy success for the rest of the season. Shannahan knows Haynesworth is a baller, but he didn't want him to get his way. So, now we're left with a player that has maybe a fourth round draft pick trade value, and Snyder's wallet a little thinner. I don't think anyone can complain with that. Haynesworth was a bad move from the beginning, now we're just cleaning it up.

Posted by: madmanstat3 | December 8, 2010 1:27 PM | Report abuse

People, LaVar is right. This goes on Shanahan, but my angle is a little different. Do the Redskins need discipline? Without a doubt, but at the same time, Shanahan's job is to win games, not to be petty and vindictive. You play your best players and as a coach, you find a way to pull the best performance out of them. You have to know how to deal with people. And this is something that Shanahan hasn't been able to do.

And if you older skins fans have forgotten, our great HOF running back, John Riggins was a headcase too. The man sat out for a whole year. Would we define that as a diva attitude? Should he have just shut up and played the game? Gary Clark didn't practice, but he turned it on at game time. Pettibon used to hate that and if he had his way, Clark would have been on the bench. How would we have fared then with Clark on the bench on those days when he had big performances? Hell, Pettibon is part of the reason Clark left when he took over.

As much fault as Haynesworth deserves in this whole debacle, Shanahan is just as much to blame. And don't pull the 2 SB out of your rear to support your arguement for him. Without Elway and Davis, Shanahan has won exactly 1 playoff game without them.

Posted by: Rahwaj | December 8, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Is Shanahan to blame because he expected Haynesworth to man up and honor his contract?? That $21M bonus obligated Haynesworth to do anything the Redskins asked of him, including picking up trash after the games, with a smile on his face. Shanahan didn't mishandle the situation, Haynesworth mishandled himself. Maybe Tony Dungy is available to mentor Haynesworth; he needs some kind of help.

Posted by: sherberg | December 8, 2010 2:48 PM | Report abuse

The Redskins spent millions on this guy. To release him because he wasn't getting his way or because he was having a tantrum is just dumb. You have to try to turn the situation around, which Shanahan and hte Redskins have tried to do. Shanahan covered all his bases, gave Albert the chance to do the right thing and be professional, and has basically been building a case against Haynesworth so he can basically be "fired" with strong cause and a strong case against him. But the Skins shouldn't release him - they should hold him hostage until some other team offers something reasonable for him -and if that day never comes, let him sit for however long his contract is.

Posted by: AsstGM | December 8, 2010 2:52 PM | Report abuse

Lavar is way off the mark. The Redskins had just paid AH a $21M bonus in April. It would have been beyond ridiculous for Shanahan to just cut him in the offseason for not attending "voluntary" training sessions. He did mis 1 mandatory training session, but the punishment for that offense was already built in with a fine. I don think Shanahan went out of his way to embarrass AH with that condtioning test fiasco, but AH has to take 95% of the blame for this train wreck! In order for the Redskins to terminate his employment without pay, they have to be able to show a consistent pattern of detrimental conduct by AH, which is why it took this long to deactivate him for the rest of the season.

Lavar is and always will be angry with the Redskins for the way his injuries/departure were handled so his views are always going to be jaded.

Posted by: rick467 | December 8, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

Yep, Haynesworth the boggie man for the 5-11 season. Zorn was the Boggie man for the 4-12 season. NEXT!!

Posted by: bfs515 | December 8, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Lavar,

You are a delusional fool. Give it up!
Mike inherited this mess and tried to make it work because the money was so steep.

Did what he could. You should be smarter instead of a silly BMitch clone.

Disappointed in your brain Lavar!

Posted by: soc22210 | December 8, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Just a question for those of you who are managers or who work as part of a team: How much are you willing to stretch to accomodate a supremely talented employee/colleague who 1) is a flagrant, serial liar, 2) who takes company money basis on his flagrant lies, 3) who shows up when he wants and leaves the team hanging at critical times because he is unprepared to work hard, and 4) who makes it clear that he thinks his manager and team members are chumps?

Is the manager to blame because he doesn't allow the "star" to perform?

Posted by: sbostian1 | December 8, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

LaVar, LaVar, LaVar.......... Very disapointed in you. When you inherit a bag of do doo, you do your best to make it work. It's not cause he's black, it's not cause he's misunderstood, it's becuase he is a self-centered a-hole. Don't quite your day job (oh, nevermind).

Posted by: DamManly | December 8, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Mike Shanahan's way or the highway. I'm cool with that until the team's record drops to 5-7. Tampa Bay is coming and my gut feel right now is the team will be 5-8 by Sunday evening. Skins laid down against Philly and NYG and to me that's the real issue. Can we bring Jim Zorn back? At least the guy was likable.

Posted by: deshackleford | December 8, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Was on the fence about you Lavar. No more. You almost as big a moron as Fat Albert

Posted by: billatw1 | December 8, 2010 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Man LaVar you have taken a beating on this post sir. I do agree they should have gotten rid of the guy sooner but he was given his outright release opportunity and he took the check instead. That decision on his part set the wheels in motion for a tough situation for the staff and the team. There was no easy solution in the event he chose to do what he did.

I have always been of the school of thought that if a man does not want to play for a team then it is pointless having him on the roster. Players make mistakes and coaches make mistakes, but at the end of the day if either of them don't want to be here then they shouldn't.

Posted by: skins91r | December 8, 2010 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Lavar: Sorry but i lost respect for you when you started to mock your college coach. this is the same guy who treated you like his son and gave you all the football knowledge . How dare you. You did the same with snyder and now you are after our team. It is ironic that Washington post continues to give you prominance while you should have no part either on the radio or in the print media. You are a redskin hater and you rants against the skins should not be tolerated. Redskin nation should bycott your show , your television show and stop reading this blog. you are the same person who fired his waiting staff at your resturant this time last year without pay....You have lost your credibility.

Posted by: mazbar | December 8, 2010 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Thank God there's someone out there who's NOT on the "lets throw Haynesworth under the bus bandwagon". Shanahan seems to do a better job fencing with Haynesworth than he is a football coach. It kind of makes you wonder about Shanahan. He seems to be more concerned about making a point and being right than winning football games. What has he done without Elway? Nothing. The Broncos fired him because he had too much control and the team wasn't doing well. Look at the record, look at the offense. The offense is HORRIBLE. Let's try out W Parker and L Johnson but forget about Westbrook. Look at Westbrook now. Zorn was doing the same job, just without the ego.

Posted by: jonnymedic | December 8, 2010 7:06 PM | Report abuse

We should care what LaVar think because...????
I have to believe that this decision was made a long time ago and only took so long because they needed to build a case that might allow the club to recoup some of the money while also allowing Fat Albert the opportunity of resurrecting himself in the eyes of the ownership.
Shanny inherited a club that's been horrbily neglected for over ten years and it's going to take 2-3 years to restock this roster. My guess is that there is going to be another wholesale roster purge this winter and while we're at it, maybe the Post could hire some qualifed talent as well.

Posted by: smirkhouse | December 8, 2010 7:13 PM | Report abuse

Lavar,

Most of the time I'm right with you, buit this time, you're wrong. Shannahan tried to work this out and Fatso continued to not try. Haynesworth is a waste. Good riddence. End of story. Next subject!!!!

Posted by: raca1234 | December 8, 2010 8:10 PM | Report abuse

it is so funny that after such an embarrassing defeat last Sunday, everyone is focusing on a player who did not play at all. what is going on?
Shanahan has had all the power to run this team, and he has completely failed, and no one is talking about it?
the first mistake Shanahan made was to hire his son. If I were a player on the team, I would not respect the offensive coordinator.

Posted by: germantownfarmer | December 8, 2010 10:35 PM | Report abuse

Some of you are not thinking. js1960, you are the idiot! When AH signed the contract, the $20M was his...and discussion after signing was moot at best. As far as whether he was onboard with the switch in schemes should have been addresed with either a trade or benching. As the head coach, My way Mike needed to make a decision! As far as the suspension, Fat Albert will get all of his money on appeal…ya coach hosed it up! Why take him to NY if you were not gonna activate him? Cause ya wanted to embarrass him, yep, clearly a mistake especially since other guys miss practice and still play on Sunday, if they’re not injured!
I wouldn’t be surprised if Shanny wasn’t fired at the end of the year…aka Marty S move…he’s made too many boneheaded mistakes…like changing a top five D from 4-3 to a 3-4 resulting in a bottom feeder defense! Get a clue folks. When your defense continues to give up 200 yards on the ground for the final four games, you'll then understand how valuable AH was... Ask Orakpo, how many sacks does he have with AH? Orakpo won't be a Pro Bowler this year, exactly.

Posted by: Walkernupe2 | December 9, 2010 9:37 AM | Report abuse

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