Updated: Details on White Supremacist Suspect


A photo of Brunn from his website.

Police are confirming that the name of suspect is James Von Brunn, a white supremacist, born 1920.

On a rambling, racist and bitterly anti-semitic website a man who identifies himself as James W. von Brunn claims to be a former World War II PT boat captain who was decorated for his conduct in battle, and was an advertising executive and film producer in New York City.

He claims to be a member of Mensa, "the high-IQ society," and in 1981 was convicted in D.C. Superior Court for an offense that is not made clear. He was "convicted by a Negro jury, Jew/Negro attorneys, and sentenced to prison for eleven years by a Jew judge. A Jew/Negro/White Court of Appeals denied his appeal. He served 6.5 years in federal prison."

He says he is now an artist and author living on Maryland's Eastern Shore.
He refers on his website to "Marxist/Liberal/Jews bankers," and provides this information in a poisonous biographical entry.

"Over my years of adversity, it became clear to me that a JEW strategy had emerged: "Kill the Best Gentiles!" The tactics were WAR & DEBT...I was chased from one job to another for not genuflecting before God's Chosen. When a Jew CEO deliberately farts in a business meeting, to express his contempt, I seem to react unfavorably."

More details from Post reporter Marc Fisher:

James Von Brunn has been a leading writer in the white supremacist fringe for many years. Several of the country's largest and most prolific producers of racist tracts and books have traditionally been based in the mid-Atlantic states, some of them centered for many years around the National Alliance, which was run from William Pierce's secluded West Virginia headquarters until his death in 2002. Von Brunn's online book, "Kill The Best Gentiles," is hundreds of pages of conspiracy theories that include Holocaust denial, the ancient hoax of the "Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion," and wild webs of fantasy seeking to link the Federal Reserve Bank, the Illuminati, Sigmund Freud and Karl Marx in a grand, centuries-long story of Jewish plotting against white people.

"The Holocaust must be viewed in context against the background of world history, the Torah, the Talmud, and Rothschild's World Revolutionary Movement," Von Brunn wrote. In his 1999 book, Adolf Hitler "led Germany to an amazing spiritual and economic recovery" and Jews "embed themselves among their cattle and suck their vital juices undetected."

Von Brunn repeatedly wrote that the Holocaust never happened. "There was no policy to mass murder Jews," he wrote in his book. This entire passage is printed in capital letters. "No order was given to mass murder Jews. There was no budget to carry out such a policy. There were no means (gas chambers, etc.) to carry out mass murders."
He concludes that "a total of about 300,000 Jews died of all causes during World War II. There was no Jew 'Holocaust.' There was a German Holocaust!"

Von Brunn wins high praise on many white supremacist web sites. One, by a Florida supremacist named John "Birdman" Bryant, calls Von Brunn "a fellow Mensan, former PT boat captain, and a pro-white fighter with steel balls."

"This is a longtime white supremacist and anti-Semite approaching the end of his life who may have decided to go out shooting," said Mark Potok, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center, a non-profit in Alabama that tracks right-wing extremists. It's rare, if not unheard of, for the writers of white supremacist literature to engage in violent action, Potok said. "In this movement generally, the intellectuals are separate from the street actors."

Von Brunn was active as a producer of anti-Semitic tracts for decades. In the 1980s, he worked for Noontide Press, which Potok said was a leading producer of Holocaust denial books. Von Brunn's book is dedicated to neo-Nazis such as Revilo Oliver and Wilmot Robertson. Robertson was the author of "The Dispossessed Majority," a highly influential work among white supremacists which argued that white Americans have been stripped of their natural position controlling U.S. society.

Von Brunn considered himself a student and acolyte of Rear Adm. John Crommelin, an anti-Semite who worked with Pierce, the neo-Nazi whose novel, "The Turner Diaries," inspired Timothy McVeigh to bomb the federal building in Oklahoma City in 1995.
Although Von Brunn's book -- portions of which are available for free download, while the full text requires a $10 purchase -- is widely cited on radical right-wing web sites, its influence did not appear to move out of those fringe circles, Potok said. The Internet "has made white supremacists a little more mainstream, but it did not transform Von Brunn into a major player on the radical right," he said.

New Update:

The New York Daily News interviewed the ex-wife of James Von Brunn:

"The ex-wife of the racist who stormed the U.S. Holocaust Museum described him as an abusive alcoholic whose hatred against Jews and blacks "ate him alive like a cancer."
"It's all he would talk about," the ex-wife said of James von Brunn...who was wounded in a firefight with museum guards.
"When I questioned him, he would get very angry and abusive."

See the full blog of the shooting incident here.

June 10, 2009; 5:18 PM ET  | Category:  metro
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Just like the guy who killed Tiller. A domestic terrorist.
It's PAST time to identify these people and take them out.
We need to have a WAR ON TERRORISM.

Posted by: Tomcat3 | June 10, 2009 2:56 PM

The Washington Post

March 3, 1983, Thursday, Final Edition

N.H. Man Guilty in Incident at Fed

SECTION: Metro; B7

LENGTH: 186 words

A D.C. Superior Court jury yesterday convicted a New Hampshire man of attempting to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board, stemming from a 1981 incident in which the man was arrested at the board's headquarters carrying several weapons.
According to police, James Von Brunn, 61, of Lebanon, N.H., told them after his arrest that he wanted to take board members hostage to focus media attention on the board's responsibility for high interest rates and the nation's economic difficulties.

Von Brunn entered the board's headquarters at 21st Street and Constitution Avenue NW with a bag slung over his shoulder. He was captured by a guard after running to the second floor, where the board was meeting. He was detained outside the board room and was carrying a revolver, a hunting knife and a sawed-off shotgun, police said.
The jury yesterday convicted Von Brunn of attempted kidnaping while armed, second-degree burglary, assault with a dangerous weapon, carrying a pistol without a license and two counts of possession of a prohibited weapon.

Judge Harriet R. Taylor set sentencing for April.

Posted by: key375 | June 10, 2009 3:07 PM

Posted by: johnja97 | June 10, 2009 3:08 PM

Here's hoping that guys like this are a dying breed. And that they aren't taking others with them.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 10, 2009 3:09 PM

So the guy doesn't like Jews, Negros or liberals. He is ex military, old and white (I'm just assuming that last one).

Sounds like a guy the Republican party would categorize as 'the base'.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 10, 2009 3:14 PM

I see the left wing demagogues are already blaming the NRA and the religious right for this nut job. Well, if that’s the case, than the ACLU and other left leaning groups should be blamed for repeat sex offenders who they help get out of jail.

They push for leniency, these people are released, and 80 percent reoffend.
See how crazy that sounds? Lets wake up people..nut jobs are nut jobs.

You cant stop one mad who is intent on committing murder and willing to give up his life to achieve his crazy goals.

Posted by: PCisKillingus | June 10, 2009 3:15 PM

Hate begets Madness.
Madness begets Evil.
Evil begets Horror.

Today, like many other days before, we see horror.

Posted by: GailCG | June 10, 2009 3:16 PM

And over at CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), a huge sigh of relief could be heard ...

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 10, 2009 3:17 PM

so lets get this straight. a brief quiz:

who is feeding this guy and the murderer of Dr.Tiller?

choose one:
Obama?
rahm emanuel?
rush?
sean?
o'reilly?
colin powell?
the pope?
a college scholarship awaits the successful respondent.

Posted by: professor3 | June 10, 2009 3:18 PM

Just like the guy who killed Tiller. A domestic terrorist.
It's PAST time to identify these people and take them out.
We need to have a WAR ON TERRORISM.
********

dont forget the muslim convert who murdered those two army guys at the army training center

domestic terrorism IS a big deal, and it threatens on all fronts

does obama still think that its a "false choice" between our liberty and our security?

Posted by: dummypants | June 10, 2009 3:19 PM

Also, see the following article on another von Brunn crime: "6-Month Term Imposed for Hitting Md. Sheriff," Washington Post, Oct. 12, 1968, B8.

Posted by: key375 | June 10, 2009 3:20 PM

"The base?" Cool it with the crazytalk, zcezcest1.

Don't you get it that it's just more hatemongering? Break the cycle.

Posted by: TheGeans | June 10, 2009 3:20 PM

In addition to Tiller, let us not forget about the black Moslem who killed two people at an army recruiting station in Arkansas. The killing of Dr. Tiller was front page news, and earned the strong condemnation of Obama, but nary a word was said about the black Moslem murderer of the two men at the recruiting station. Why?

Posted by: grantpaten | June 10, 2009 3:20 PM

This guy doesn't sound much different than Rev. Wright's, President Obama's friend, marriage officiant, and pastor of 20 plus years, who just today made anti-Semitic comments about "them Jews."

Posted by: WashingtonDame | June 10, 2009 3:21 PM

The Black Moslem murderer at the recruiting station was part of the Democratic Party Base.

Posted by: grantpaten | June 10, 2009 3:23 PM


The question is, what was this guy, a convicted felon, doing carrying a weapon, and *who* gave it to him??

Posted by: kenhyde | June 10, 2009 3:24 PM

I am a Semitic-American. Can y'all kindly explain what we ever did to y'all to deserve this type of treatment?

I'm totally prepared to make a full & complete apology for anything I or my ancestors may have done, but I just do not understand why the Gentiles are so angry at us.

Posted by: weaselB | June 10, 2009 3:24 PM

If it were up to Gingrich, Cheney, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Hannity...THIS guy would be the face of the Republican party.

Posted by: Drewster1 | June 10, 2009 3:25 PM

"So the guy doesn't like Jews, Negros or liberals. He is ex military, old and white (I'm just assuming that last one).

Sounds like a guy the Republican party would categorize as 'the base'. "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So you must think that the guy who admits shooting and killing one soldier last week, and wounding another, would be part of the Democratic Party base? He is African American and a Muslim.


Posted by: GRILLADES | June 10, 2009 3:26 PM

I hope WaPo reminds us of the names of all those who jumped down Napolitano's throat because a report suggested that DHS might have to look out for "domestic terrorists" like the Tiller shooter and this guy.

Posted by: pdech | June 10, 2009 3:27 PM

Neocons running riot.

Again.

Please leave the planet if you love W.

Posted by: bs2004 | June 10, 2009 3:28 PM


O'Reilly and Rush musta set off another one, huh?

Posted by: YouryellowribbonmagnetwontgetyouintoHeavenanymore | June 10, 2009 3:29 PM

Posted by: bs2004 | June 10, 2009 3:31 PM

88 and full of hate....how sad....

Posted by: rjtysz | June 10, 2009 3:32 PM

More like:

89 and no spine...

Posted by: bs2004 | June 10, 2009 3:34 PM

I wish someone had indeed put an end to this worthless maggot instead of just wounding him. As a son of Holocaust survivors, I'd volunteer for the job.

Now we'll be subject to more about this P.O.S. who calls himself a war hero; along with other P.O.S. fellow travelers of his ilk on the Today show or Larry King.

If it's true about his being a PT boat captain during World War II, the Pentagon should strip him of every decoration he's got and retroactively declare him dishonorably discharged.

Posted by: lenagabe1 | June 10, 2009 3:34 PM

This guy can only get one ? Even at 89 , he is a disgrace to his fellow homicidal maniacs .

Posted by: borntoraisehogs | June 10, 2009 3:35 PM

Domestic terrorism just like the abortion dr. shooting and people wonder why Jewish people get so touchy about anti-semitism because it is exists loud and clear

Posted by: lildg54 | June 10, 2009 3:35 PM

This right-wing rampage moment courtesy of Fox News.

Posted by: hayden1 | June 10, 2009 3:37 PM

Unlike the millions of white closet racist liberals, this guy, like Farrakan, was honest about it.

Posted by: buckdharma | June 10, 2009 3:37 PM

The way these wingnuts, e.g. on this site, manufacture supposed slights and conspiracies is amazing. For one thing, the shooting at the recruiting center was FRONT PAGE NEWS for at least a couple of days, and was NOT ignored by the media, as one of these goober wads maintained here. Sounds like Rev. Wright? Hmmm, as memory serves me, the rev did not go out and shoot people, e.g. at a museum, nor did he deny the Holocaust, as many of the nuts do. They deny reality, and live in their own fantasy world of supposed conspiracies. I fear that we're in for more of these incidents, as right wing blogs and media outlets fan the fires of hate, e.g. against the President. Can you imagine...now they want a boycott of GM and Chrysler so that Obama will fail. Never mind the loss of jobs, houses, health insurance and food by the workers' families forced out of jobs if the effort succeeds. What matters to them is that a black man and a liberal president fails. I've only bought Toyotas in recent years, but if GM slims down and begins making decent cars, I'll consider buying one.

Posted by: hypocritebuster | June 10, 2009 3:37 PM

Wasn't Napolitano intensely criticized for suggesting that the DHS needs to maintain heightened vigilance for domestic terrorism? Is this not the second incident of domestic terrorism, following the abortion doctor's murder in broad daylight in a CHURCH, in the past couple of WEEKS? And people, terrorism is terrorism, doesn't matter if it comes from right-wing or left-wing extremism. Either way, lives are in danger - I think everyone can agree that's common sense.

Posted by: linz2 | June 10, 2009 3:38 PM

In this point in this Miscreants life he should be trying to get right with his GOD or perhaps this is his way of doing it.

Posted by: Badwisky | June 10, 2009 3:38 PM

Just like the 72-year-old woman who had to be tased yesterday when she confronted the police officer who pulled her over...this nutjob thought he was above the law. In both cases, it's "the individual against the government." Now, remember the abortion doctor assassinated by a rightwing Christian nutjob just last week? What do these terrorist creeps have in common? Please look into whom they watch on television ... more specifically, which network they spend their time at. Are they watching Larry King and Rachel Maddow...or possibly (but, nooo, couldn't be) O'Reilly and Hannity? I also wonder if it will turn out that they listen to Limbaugh or Michael Savage. The results of that research would help me make sense out of what's going on here. (We don't allow folks to shout "fire" in a crowded theater, so why are certain media outlets allowed to incite wacko rightwing nutjobs to terrorist violence?) I give Janet Napolitano credit for the report on rightwing violence that her Department recenly published. She never should have retracted that report.

Posted by: BelmontBayNeighbor | June 10, 2009 3:38 PM

A decorated World War Two veteran and member of the "Greatest Generation". Thank you for your service. sir.

Posted by: slim2 | June 10, 2009 3:39 PM

Funny to hear the lefties in this chat blame Fox News and the "rigth wing." Ok, well, then is the Black Muslim who shot the army people the the fault of democrats? What about repeat sex offends who are let of jail.

Wake up people.

Posted by: PCisKillingus | June 10, 2009 3:39 PM

We've seen this guy posting again and again in the Post's comments sections, ranting about Obamas birth certificate

Here's one of his post in the New Republic that looks very familiar to his posts here:

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:niXSYG-nVO8J:www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141655/posts+http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141655/posts&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Posted by: coloradodog | June 10, 2009 3:40 PM

This makes me sad--I suspect it's as much a mental health and gun control issue than anything else.

Posted by: josephineruby | June 10, 2009 3:41 PM

An earlier poster asked why the gentiles are always mad at the jews. Some gentiles believe that the economies of many nations are essentially controlled and manipulated by jewish interests. The diamond industry is an example of this practice.

Posted by: TooManyPeople | June 10, 2009 3:41 PM

The reason you don't hear about the black muslim on the front page of the newspaper is obvious. Society, in general, favors black muslims.

Golly, it sure is tough being a white male in a black muslim's world!

Posted by: joshlct | June 10, 2009 3:42 PM

Get Real. Get Honest. How can anyone here think this nut-bag represents the right? How can any person who is Jewish think this guy represents gentiles? (In reference to a few posts up) How can anyone think a murderer who is black and moslem represent the left?

It is this kind of inflammatory blame game and prejudice that leads to hatred and murder.
Not the rational political views of people on the left or the right.

Posted by: yeshecho | June 10, 2009 3:42 PM

This is why "Hate and Fear" Republicans like Hannity, Gingrich, Beck, Palin, etc., need to be held responsible for kooks like this. They ENCOURAGE this sort of domestic terrorism, all in the name of Christianity and the TRUE America! They make me ill.

Posted by: GenuineRisk | June 10, 2009 3:42 PM

George Bush was able to keep the Republican lunatics at bay by giving them just enough to satisfy them. Now that he's gone it's like the cage door at the zoo is open and the animals are getting loose.

Posted by: StevefromCOBOL | June 10, 2009 3:42 PM

"So you must think that the guy who admits shooting and killing one soldier last week, and wounding another, would be part of the Democratic Party base? He is African American and a Muslim."


These people probably don't see him as a terrorist at all, they probably understood why he did it, just as they understood everything Reverend Wright said (until Obama threw him under the bus, then they had the opportunity to see that maybe what the reverend said was wrong).

Posted by: buckdharma | June 10, 2009 3:42 PM

EVEN A FROG WITH A GUN CAN BE A DANGEROUS TERRORIST. WHILE WE ARE ALL RELIEVED THAT THE SHOOTER WAS MERELY A SENILE INDIVIDUAL THE GUARD ON DUTY MIGHT NOT BE SO GENEROUSLY INCLINED.

IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE EVERYONE LOOKS AT THE MAGICIAN'S RIGHT HAND, THE TRICK MIGHT BE COMING THROUGH HIS LEFT ONE. SO LET HOMELAND SECURITY KEEP ITS EYES ON THE TARGET, ALWAYS. ANY DAY NOW, "THEY" WILL TRY AGAIN - OUR LONG LOST FRIENDS AND BROTHERS BARACK OBAMA SO OPENLY INVITED INTO OUR LIVES ... AGAIN.

Posted by: jaysonrex | June 10, 2009 3:42 PM

People...come on. You cant stop one man who will trade his life to kill others.

Posted by: PCisKillingus | June 10, 2009 3:43 PM

what about the irony that he fought in world war II defending, among other things, the rights of oppressed Jews?

Posted by: DreamOutLoud | June 10, 2009 3:44 PM

A google search for James Von Brunn turns up a Wikipedia entry, apparently by Mr. Von Brunn, that was taken down today... Using the cached data from Google, that entry is available. The following is that Wikipedia entry including the author's characterization of his attempted takeover of the Federal Reserve as a "legal nonviolent citizens arrest":


User:James von Brunn
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User: James W. von Brunn, b.1920, attempted to place the Federal Resrve Board of Governors under legal, non-violent citizens arrest, 12-7-81. Von Brunn charged the FED with treason and other high crimes. The FED, a private stock-company, owned by International bankers, financed the construction of manufacturing plants in the Soviet Union during the "Cold War." War materials, produced by FED financed plants, were used by the Enemy against American military forces in Viet Nam, and elsewhere.

Von Brunn was tried and convicted by a Washington, D.C. kangaroo court; then sentenced to eleven years in federal prison by Judge Harriet Rosen Taylor; the sentence was confirmed by a racially motivated Appeals Court. Von Brunn was imprisoned for 6.5-years.

Von Brunn champions Western Culture,and the practice of Eugenics. He states that Marxism-Multiculturalism-Judaism is the Enemy of Mankind.citing Talmudic quotes to "Kill the Best Gentiles !"

Von Brunn was president of his college fraternity, SAE. He served as PT-Boat captain, USNR, during WW2, earning 4-battle stars and a Commendation Ribbon. His early business career was in NYC as copywriter, art-director and film producer; later as a real-estate broker; and lastly as a writer-artist.

Pls see attchment: FED CAPER.

Posted by: lexpro | June 10, 2009 3:47 PM

Personally, I'd like to hear EVERY person who ripped that DHS report as full of crap to start apologizing and say "You know what? They might be on to something here..."

But it'll never happen. I wish for too much.

Posted by: ckg927 | June 10, 2009 3:47 PM

Don't pray for me Argentina, pray for my country.

Think of the hateful and evil Southern Baptist minister, Wiley Drake, of Buena Park, CA who is glad that Dr. Tiller has been killed and reports that he is openly praying for the death of President Obama. This is serious. It’s too late to point out that he is a watered down American Taliban.

How many policemen would side with the white supremacists if the President wereshot and civil war broke out? I hope that we never find out, but I observe that many are quick to fire at non-whites...

Posted by: bobsnodgrass | June 10, 2009 3:48 PM

Maybe I'm the only one annoyed by this, but just for ONCE, can we not start throwing around political insults when some nut does something outrageous. The only 2 logical explanations for trying to align this guy with political party behavior are: 1) you are trying to be provocative, which minimalizes the gravitas of the tragedy of innocents being shot and the seriousness of having psychopaths out in society, or 2) you truly believe that dems or repubs seek to include people like this in their value system or tacitly approve of this behavior, which might make you a bit of a psycho yourself. Why not leave politics out of it, and concentrate on reality?

Whew, I feel a little better myself now.

Posted by: avgsapiens | June 10, 2009 3:49 PM

Hey, weaselB,

We don't have to apologize to anyone!

I'm still waiting for the world to apologize to us!!!

Anti-Semitism is not innate, it's a learned behavior taught by parents, political leaders and the church. It was historically a way to blame someone for the problems of the day or their own personal shortcomings. Easier to take out one’s frustrations on a target that historically shunned violence. This maggot who did this today probably had his feelings about Jews and blacks since he was young. Like all anti-Semite, he was a coward who only felt empowered to use guns against unarmed innocents.

Sanctioned by the church since the Dark Ages, anti-Semitism has never been officially condemned by the church until recent years. And, even now, there is no threat of excommunication by Christian or Islamic precepts hanging over anyone who still voices or commits anti-Semitic acts. If there was, there would be a dramatic decline in anti-Semitic acts around the world.

Posted by: lenagabe1 | June 10, 2009 3:49 PM

It wasn't too long ago that the head of the RNC was Jewish, and republican administrations get faulted a lot for supporting Israel too much, so I doubt this was a republican.

If you want anti-semetic statements from politicians, see Jesse Jackson, Jimmy Carter, and Wesley Clark.

Posted by: buckdharma | June 10, 2009 3:50 PM

I love how people, regardless of political stripes, try to demagogue tragedies like this. Every time a white person does something it isn’t the fault of the right in this country. Every time a black or minority does something it isn’t a fault of the left in this country.

Crazy people are crazy people …….

Posted by: PCisKillingus | June 10, 2009 3:52 PM

Neocons running riot.

Again.

Please leave the planet if you love W.

Posted by: bs2004 | June 10, 2009 3:28 PM
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If you think this guy is a neo-con, you have absolutely no concept of what a neo con is. None whatsoever.

Posted by: billy8 | June 10, 2009 3:53 PM

Hate on the right, hate on the left, all hate must be combatted. Fringe idiots like von Brunn and Abdulhakim Muhammad, the gunman at the Recruiting Station, represent those who hate. Not Republican or Democratic dogma but their own sick, twisted view of the world. BTW, grantpaten, I heard plenty about the shooting at the Recruiting Station in the news last week as I was traveling in Washington, Oregon, and California...

Posted by: cabterp | June 10, 2009 3:53 PM

I hope at least some of his attending medical personnel are black or Jewish.

Posted by: MajorConfusion | June 10, 2009 3:54 PM

So, we had Homeland Security trying to warn law enforcement about these dangerous wingnuts and in turn we had everybody on Fox News and in the Republican Party shouting down the efforts of responsible people to protect us.

Sounds about par for the course.

Posted by: YouryellowribbonmagnetwontgetyouintoHeavenanymore | June 10, 2009 3:54 PM

Another week, another act of right-wing terrorism.

Posted by: skrut003 | June 10, 2009 3:55 PM

We need to start compiling a data file of DNA from nutcases like this, do sequencing and see if there are any uncommon genes, or groups of genes. Sort of like Gattica in reverse.

Posted by: dotellen | June 10, 2009 3:55 PM

and the Repubs want to make sure that other idiots like this guy have easier access to guns in DC. Just what we need!

Posted by: eomcmars | June 10, 2009 3:55 PM

1. AR Democratic Party state chair shot by a guy with right-wing material in his car.
2. TN Unitarian Church shot up by a guy with writings that said that each person shot was to represent "the liberals in Congress."
3. KS Dr. George Tiller shot by pro-lifer who had previously vandalized clinic and more.
4. DC Holocaust Museum shot up by white supremacist.

Now I'm not about to say that all right-wingers are targeting liberals, or that there is a concerted effort. That's just lunacy and means that I need to get my paranoia checked. But there certainly does seem to be a theme developing here that needs to be stopped.

Posted by: tiff052780 | June 10, 2009 3:56 PM


Big surprise.

Janet Napalitano was 100% right. The right-wing terrorist threat is a very real danger. They're crazy and lash out when they're losing.

Posted by: sequoiaqueneaux | June 10, 2009 3:56 PM

pciskillingus wrote:
"They (liberals) push for leniency, these people are released, and 80 percent reoffend. See how crazy that sounds? Lets wake up people..nut jobs are nut jobs."

Good try, pc, but completely off the mark. Here's the problem -- liberals aren't egging sex offenders on to ply their trade. They're not demonizing children as appropriate targets through coded "opinion" pieces or worse; they're not inflaming the nut jobs by rhetorically warning of the end of the world as we know it. Sorry, but Hannity, and Limbaugh, and O'Reilly and the rest of the Christian Taliban better start to look at the harvest their poisonous words reap. Hypocrites. Dangerous hypocrites.

Posted by: Omyobama | June 10, 2009 3:56 PM

I was the 1st to post that the description of the guy sounded a lot like the base of the Republican party (older, angry white guys with guns).

That said, I don't think anyone in the Republican party with a meaningful role in it condones this guy -- or others like him.

Problem is, the party and its various (official and unofficial) mouthpieces do attract this sort. And not much to disassociate itself with this element. In fact, we'll no doubt hear a Republican talking head saying that part of the problem is the gun laws that are on the books aren't being enforced.

And fwiw, yes, even the Republican party acknowledges that its base is too old and too white. And portions of the party are trying to break with what they see as the party being against minorities (gay issues being one that has gotten recent press)

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 10, 2009 3:56 PM

To PCisKillingus

True enough about nut cases on any side of any issue. BUT by overturning the DC gun laws, people like the NRA prevented police from stopping this man BEFORE he got to shoot anyone. Surely, people could see him carrying a weapon that large. I doubt he would be hunting anywhere near that area.

Posted by: TomfromNJ1 | June 10, 2009 3:57 PM

The same outrage and disbelief at something that was based on religious intolerance.

How Taliban. How fragging pitiful, that the sheep are really wolves after all.

So now you know: American religious whackos are TERRORISTS of the same category as Islamic Whackos!

And as a consolation, you now have ....parity America; and maybe more in common with Taliban and Iran that you are capable of admitting at any point in public.

Fools, all religiously driven terrorists.

In America, we have civil laws. Outright and Blatant disregard for them is a form of Terrorism - (murder) killing for a cause, especially a religious cause, is illegal.

But the new western talibanis could care less about civil laws - to then it's about thier myopic religions and that's all it's about.

Now's the time to crack down on religious extremism. Homeland Security and all that.

Religious organizations that support terrorism shall have thier tax exempt status revoked at the very least, and I would prefer that the CIA start sending spies to thier gatherings.

Just like blowin' up a mosque in Baghdad. It's simple, see. I saw it on the Tee-Vee.

We can do it here, to all kinds of churches, just do the same to them that you seem empowered to do to Iraqis, or otherwise known as religious fanatics.

Do it.

Do it, or live in a land where religious intimidation, if not followed, can result in death.

Just like Afghanistan.

Posted by: pgibson1 | June 10, 2009 4:00 PM

sigh. sorry for the families of the people wounded. This nut job isn't representative of anything except paranoid schizophrenia.

meds people. take your meds...

Posted by: k9rescue | June 10, 2009 4:01 PM

Knowing that we live in a world that is influenced by evil leaves no doubt why Jews are often targets. As a christian I know what the scripture says about God's chosen people. From that moment forth the devil made it his business to attack that nation. Through Abraham all nations shall be blessed. The gentiles do not hate Jewish people, the devil does, he hates all people especially the people who acknowledge the one true God. Pray for our country and our world.

Posted by: wise147 | June 10, 2009 4:01 PM

I wonder if Obama will nominate this guy to the Supreme Court in the name of diversity.

Posted by: birvin9999 | June 10, 2009 4:05 PM

Maybe Republicans don't claim this nut as one of theirs, but he sure talks the hatred that I hear from so many of the Repubs I have known down South.

Posted by: equalityforall | June 10, 2009 4:05 PM

Reading all these posts here...no, we cannot associate von Brunn or Roeder with the Republican Party. But we can associate them with the values that the Party expounds, particularly from the mouths of the bloviators at Fox News and from Rush Limbaugh.

I hope that the FBI does their research thoroughly and I hope that they come up with details of how these guys spent their days and nights. Any indication that they were encouraged by what they saw and heard from these irresponsible right wingers should be dealt with appropriately, if no more than revealing this information to the American Public.

Posted by: FactChecker1 | June 10, 2009 4:05 PM

To be fair to Republuicans, nut-jobs like this guy are so far to the right that they consider Republicans to be liberal sell-outs. And what's with the Mensa thing? First the Ted Kaczniski and now this guy? Anyone else think that Homeland is about to round up all the smart people and ship them off to G'tmo?

Posted by: j-man1 | June 10, 2009 4:06 PM

N.B., WORLD: WE HAVE NO MORE RACIST, MURDEROUS FRUIT LOOPS IN (my!) NEW HAMPSHIRE THAN YOU-ALL HAVE IN YOUR STATES or DISTRICT.

How desperately tragic and shameful this is...

Posted by: drjillshackford1 | June 10, 2009 4:07 PM

The Washington Post

March 3, 1983, Thursday, Final Edition

N.H. Man Guilty in Incident at Fed

SECTION: Metro; B7

LENGTH: 186 words

A D.C. Superior Court jury yesterday convicted a New Hampshire man of attempting to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board, stemming from a 1981 incident in which the man was arrested at the board's headquarters carrying several weapons.
According to police, James Von Brunn, 61, of Lebanon, N.H., told them after his arrest that he wanted to take board members hostage to focus media attention on the board's responsibility for high interest rates and the nation's economic difficulties.

Von Brunn entered the board's headquarters at 21st Street and Constitution Avenue NW with a bag slung over his shoulder. He was captured by a guard after running to the second floor, where the board was meeting. He was detained outside the board room and was carrying a revolver, a hunting knife and a sawed-off shotgun, police said.
The jury yesterday convicted Von Brunn of attempted kidnaping while armed, second-degree burglary, assault with a dangerous weapon, carrying a pistol without a license and two counts of possession of a prohibited weapon.

Judge Harriet R. Taylor set sentencing for April.

Posted by: key375 | June 10, 2009 3:07 PM
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If indeed this is the case, why hasn't WAPO done it's homework and reported this? Why did a reader have to unearth this important piece of info.?

Posted by: seaduck2001 | June 10, 2009 4:10 PM

The officer shot by the guy is now dead.

Posted by: ckg927 | June 10, 2009 4:11 PM

Terrorist wack-jobs who perpetuate their ignorant, hate-filled rantings on the web, where they can find equally ignorant cretins to agree with them behind the comfortable anonymity of the web.
As the economy declines expect to see more of this violence as these dupes lash out at the "usual" suspects ("liberals", blacks, Jews) and continue to support the right wing manipulators (Limbaugh, O'Reilly, the fascist choice haters) who get rich out of making them vote against their own interests.
The domestic terrorists need to be STOPPED, because they are taking their guns and using them to contravene law and the basis of our civil society, all with the tacit support of the right wing fear mongering manipulators.

Posted by: wold | June 10, 2009 4:13 PM

According to a police source, law enforcement agencies using bomb-sniffing dogs are responding to more than 100 "targets" that were listed in a notebook found in the gunman's possession. "The targets were listed in this guy's notebook," the source said. "We were told it was more than 100."

Posted by: hwilliams2 | June 10, 2009 4:15 PM

I would like to hear officials use the word terrorist here. The shoe fits.
Meanwhile I pray for his soul and that his family and friends will find their way into love for all people.

Posted by: digtalcomp | June 10, 2009 4:15 PM

More domestic political and religious terrorism at the Holocaust Museum by another good Christian Randall Terry/Gringrinch Republican exercising his Second Amendment rights incited by his favorite cable "News Channel" (hint: it wasn't MSNBC)

If he's an ex-con, why did he have firearms?

Posted by: coloradodog | June 10, 2009 4:17 PM

Gotta love the rightwing lunatics who come out of the woodwork and use this as an opportunity to dredge up the Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers yet again. No matter what happens in America, as long as a typical conservative thug can point to something Ayers did 40 years or so ago for balance, it's all good, baby.

The rightwing in America is dumb, proud, and dangerously under-medicated. No two ways about it.

Posted by: castanea | June 10, 2009 4:18 PM

This is precisely what Obama's Justice Dept. said several months ago and much criticized by the Republicans....that extremism will start to rear it's ugly head and many of these nuts will be disgruntled veterans. This nut confirms that Obama's Justice Dept. is right on for their concern.

Posted by: logcabin1836 | June 10, 2009 4:18 PM

For once can we not be Republican or Democrat but Americans, this was an attack on Americans not on political parties.

Posted by: devilsadvoc8 | June 10, 2009 4:19 PM

DHS put out a warning several weeks ago about the possibility of right wing extremists with military backgrounds who are at risk for violence. Rethuglicans and their minions pilloried and excoriated Napolitano and the administration as "anti" conservative.

What have we had since then? A rabid racist who could not make the marine corp who later gunned down three Pittsburgh police officers. There was another Rethug who assasinated a doctor in Kansas recently. An unhinged conservative was recently arrested in Utah with $90K in cash and a plan to kill Obama. Now this guy with prior military background goes after Jews in the most stupid way.

The Rethuglicans are just disgraceful. They are hateful, stupid, angry and most frighteningly, violent.

Posted by: jabreal00 | June 10, 2009 4:22 PM

These violent white supremacists have always been among us. I just think that the combination of Obama's presidency (which outrages them unduly, but not surprisingly) and the economic situation (that makes them and others desperate) is flushing them out and making them more desperate. Given the advanced age of the shooter, it is possible that ill health also spurred him on to make a last stand. Law enforcement needs to be especially vigilant to keep things like this from happening in the future. Actually, in this case the system worked - guards dropped him before he could do much. I hope the man he shot is OK, he did his duty and we all owe him and the others a debt of gratitude.

Posted by: catherine3 | June 10, 2009 4:22 PM

Well.

One can hope that the Post might post such an-depth article on the Islamic extremist who opened fire on our soldiers in Arkansas.

Posted by: spamsux1 | June 10, 2009 4:23 PM

"this was an attack on Americans not on political parties."....

No, it wasn't. It was an attack by a segment of society taking refuge in the bowels of the GOP, aned fed by such xenophobes and hate-mongers like Rush Limberger and Ralph "Kill 'Em All" Peters.

Don't try to pass this off as simply a nutjob - it's an example of the extremisn and domestic terorists that are feeling emboldened by the whack-job's tolerance of their hate-monger leaders....

Posted by: vze2r3k5 | June 10, 2009 4:24 PM

"I am a Semitic-American. Can y'all kindly explain what we ever did to y'all to deserve this type of treatment?"

I have never heard the term Semitic-American before, but I like it. It groups together Arab and Jew, and every effort to promote such unity is a step away from hate.

Posted by: spinotter | June 10, 2009 4:30 PM

so lets get this straight. a brief quiz:

who is feeding this guy and the murderer of Dr.Tiller?

choose one:
Obama? - Because he is Black and holds that "natural position" "that white Americans have been stripped of...controlling U.S. society.
rahm emanuel? Because he a Jew.
rush? Because he encourages this type of attitude and action everyday.
sean? Because he promotes this type of attitude and action everyday.
o'reilly? Because he's an idiot and this type of action is justified in his pea brain.
colin powell? Because he's Black and held a high ranking position in the U.S. Military.
the pope? Because the idiot who commited this act of terroism actually believes in his sick mind that his actions were sanctioned by God.
a college scholarship awaits the successful respondent
------------------------------------
To summize, all of the above

Posted by: Beingsensible | June 10, 2009 4:35 PM

Re TooManyPeople

I know you were only trying to explain something and not approve, but as for the Diamond industry, wasn't DeBeers (which is the cartel which indeed does control prices on the world market) founded by Rhodes who was, I believe, a Protestant and, in fact, something of a white-supremacist himself (in fact, only certain whites!).

As for the political ramifications, I agree that I would not blame all Republicans. Certainly the ones I know would never do this. But, just as people claim that child molesters, sex offenders, and the like are influenced by pornography (but not that everyone who reads it is a child molester) and therefore argue for banning obscene things, so too, there are people (mostly on Fox News) who are constantly fanning these fires. Oh they never call for anyone to actually do these things, BUT they will say "arm yourselves for this vague threat," "the government is your enemy," "anyone who happens to think differently on politics is un-American," "someone who votes a tax increase is out to take all of your money," etc. Put the code words together and I, for one, would have no trouble convicting these mean angry people of inciting to violence were I on a jury if they were tried for such in conjunction of a case like this.

Posted by: TomfromNJ1 | June 10, 2009 4:40 PM

Right-wing and left-wing terrorists must be stopped.

But it's funny how there seems to be a lot more right-wing terrorists with guns and weapons ready to kill people.

Posted by: beargulch | June 10, 2009 4:40 PM

This incident, or the recruiting station shooting, may make it hard to justify the Administration's denial of "terrorists."

Posted by: llrllr | June 10, 2009 4:41 PM

Your point is noted, PCisKillingus, but I didn't see sex offenders yelling ugly slogans at Obama-Biden rallies during the last election cycle. McCain-Palin, on the other hand, were regular nut job magnets.

Posted by: Cossackathon | June 10, 2009 4:43 PM

OBama. Your recent betrayal of Israel is coming home to roost!!

Posted by: jpoole11 | June 10, 2009 4:43 PM

No doubt this guy will also get praised by Randall Terry of Operation Rescue. Thanks also to Fox News for your regular trumpeting of hate messages and defacto encouragement of violence.

Posted by: gschwartz1 | June 10, 2009 4:44 PM

Americans will unite and make an example of hate criminals like this GOP Republican hate monger.

GOP Cheney, Rove, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, soldier do you have a light Palin, Krausthammer, Rice, O'Reilly and Boehner your hands are dirty from your constant messages of hate for these hate mongers.

GOP Republicans finally realize that their messages of hate hurts everyone.

Posted by: dwashington1 | June 10, 2009 4:48 PM

In the year 2009 I still can't believe things like this happen. When will it stop? What generation will finally see that race,religion and ethnicity are not worth killing for.
STOP THE IGNORANCE IN 2010

Posted by: iH8dallas | June 10, 2009 4:52 PM

grantpaten wrote:

In addition to Tiller, let us not forget about the black Moslem who killed two people at an army recruiting station in Arkansas. The killing of Dr. Tiller was front page news, and earned the strong condemnation of Obama, but nary a word was said about the black Moslem murderer of the two men at the recruiting station. Why?

What are you talking about? It was all over the news.

Posted by: MNUSA | June 10, 2009 4:52 PM

So the guy doesn't like Jews, Negros or liberals. He is ex military, old and white (I'm just assuming that last one).

Sounds like a guy the Republican party would categorize as 'the base'.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 10, 2009 3:14 PM


I really think this is a terrible statement. A lot of people would take offense to you categorizing republicans as felons. Go smoke your pipe some more

Posted by: Jazzconcert | June 10, 2009 4:54 PM

What a poster child he is for "Choice".

Posted by: msgindc | June 10, 2009 4:54 PM

To be fair to Republuicans, nut-jobs like this guy are so far to the right that they consider Republicans to be liberal sell-outs. And what's with the Mensa thing? First the Ted Kaczniski and now this guy? Anyone else think that Homeland is about to round up all the smart people and ship them off to G'tmo?

Posted by: j-man1

-The human brain is an interesting organ. Sometimes with great intelligence or capacity to learn the person has certain deficiencies.

Einstein having issues tying his shoes, depression, other mental disorders etc. Don't attribute it to all people with MENSA IQs. That just raises the anti-intellectual hysteria.

Posted by: theobserver4 | June 10, 2009 4:56 PM

PCiskillingUS--

Wow. You're so much smarter than the rest of us. None of us could see this article was really about how liberals are responsible for sex offenders. Keep up the good work.


Posted by: dane1 | June 10, 2009 4:57 PM

The guard died preventing this animal from harming others, what a disaster.
Let the nation wide game of KKK whack-a-mole begin. This country is full of guys who would like to harm blacks, Jews, Liberals, ethnic people, inter-racially married folks, gays, etc. guess what party they vote for?

We just need to face up to it, and go after them, preferably before they get to 88 years old.

Brunn's weblog is a wild joke of hate and baloney, touting his MENSA membership no less. Pitiful, he'll never see the light of day again, but he probably planned on that.

Posted by: AIPACiswar | June 10, 2009 4:58 PM

Reading everything, I see why our young grow up all screwed up. If we don't change and start to respect others that do not look like us or live like we do, all of our races will end. That guard could have been anyone of you family member. He was someone's fathers, brother and son. You may have the right to hate but not harm. Who and when will a stand be made to end ALL hate killings.

Posted by: marioneaux1 | June 10, 2009 4:59 PM

Hey zcezcest1, way to trivialize this horrific, hateful crime with your moronic statement.

Posted by: agl132 | June 10, 2009 5:00 PM

To be fair to Republuicans, nut-jobs like this guy are so far to the right that they consider Republicans to be liberal sell-outs. And what's with the Mensa thing? First the Ted Kaczniski and now this guy? Anyone else think that Homeland is about to round up all the smart people and ship them off to G'tmo?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You have to pay to become a member of MENSA. I do not believe that you have to pay to prove how smart you are. Just my humble opinion.

Posted by: pcca | June 10, 2009 5:01 PM

Spamsux1: You mean, like this one from way back yesterday?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/09/AR2009060902019.html

But why let the facts get in the way, right?

Being rational for a moment, depth-of-coverage-wise, keep in mind this happened in the Post's home town; I would expect the Chicago Tribune to provide the same coverage if this happened at the Field Museum...

Posted by: TomHRyan | June 10, 2009 5:02 PM

To be fair to Republuicans, nut-jobs like this guy are so far to the right that they consider Republicans to be liberal sell-outs. And what's with the Mensa thing? First the Ted Kaczniski and now this guy? Anyone else think that Homeland is about to round up all the smart people and ship them off to G'tmo?

Posted by: j-man1
--------------------------------------
Actually this guy does most sufficiently represent the Repuglican Party. Those to the left of people like him have already left the party. It's him and the few others like him who are left being led by the Newts, Palins, and Rush's of the world.

Posted by: Beingsensible | June 10, 2009 5:04 PM

What's scary is that this nut shares the same views towards Jews as many liberal bloggers on this site. Should we be concerned and afraid that those of you, who have printed words of hatred on these blogs towards Jews are capable of these same cowardly crimes....

Posted by: tdl62 | June 10, 2009 5:09 PM

Let's ask the GOP Senate Candidate in Arkansas if he knows what "that Jew" (Chuck Schumer) thinks about this.

Posted by: koolkat_1960 | June 10, 2009 5:09 PM

Given bammie's affinity for terrorists, the von brunn family should be receiving an apology from him soon.

Posted by: 2xy4k9 | June 10, 2009 5:12 PM

The guard passed, so this guy is going away forever. They may put him in St. E's although he would be a danger to Hinkley if they didn't keep him medicated - although I doubt this scumbag will be in general population. Of course, if he doesn't rant through his hearings, he will be tried and go to prison upon conviction.

He won't survive 5 minutes in the yard, so he won't be in Gen-Pop. He will be in a small cell in Lewisburg until he goes completely batty.

In a more rational world, a lawyer on his behalf would be able to plead Guilty by Reason of Insanity in a quite proceeding and he would be sent away for the minimum term for manslaughter in a hospital for the criminally insane. You can't spew hate like that and not be a whack job.

Instead, we get the drama of a trial. Pretty barbaric.

Posted by: michaelbindner | June 10, 2009 5:12 PM

His views on Jews are more like the LaRouchees, who always seem to find a member of the tribe to scapegoat - or the anti-fed folks in the Ron Paul movement, the TEA Party set. Scan the footage, I'm sure you will find this guy at a TEA Party rally on April 15.

Posted by: michaelbindner | June 10, 2009 5:14 PM

I'm certainly not saying that all Republicans are white supremists, but white supremists are certainly to the far right of that scale. A white supremist may vote Republican, but he'll never vote Democrat.

Posted by: lynnandtom | June 10, 2009 5:18 PM

6-Month Term Imposed for Hitting Md. Sheriff
The Washington Post
CAMBRIDGE, Md., Oct. 12, 1968

Saying he wanted to raise "one lone voice" to see that law officers are respected, a Dorchester County Circuit Court judge today sentenced a man to six months in jail for punching the County sheriff.

Judge C. Buram Mace also fined James W. von Brunn $500 on the assault and battery charge plus $200 for drunken driving.

Von Brunn, a 48-year-old public relations man and commercial artist from nearby Talbot County, was arrested on a drunken driving charge July 15, following a brawl at a local restaurant, and taken to the County Jail.

Von Brunn testified that he punched a man at the jail who grabbed a camera from a deputy and attempted to take his picture. Von Brunn said he did not know the man was James Ira Johnson Sr., the sheriff.

Von Brunn's attorneys said their client is a former Navy PT-boat captain with no police record and asked for a suspended sentence.

Judge Mace granted von Brunn four months' suspension on the six-month sentence, providing he behaved himself for the first two months under Johnson's custody, and put him on a year's probation following his release.

Von Brunn was found guilty of the charges by a jury on Oct. 4 after appealing an earlier conviction in People's Court. In the first trial the sentence was 10 days and the fine was higher.

Posted by: thefrog5 | June 10, 2009 5:20 PM

ANOTHER conservative whack-job!
THIS is the republican base...

Posted by: kase | June 10, 2009 5:21 PM

The level of ingnorance of these people is just
incomprehensible....
These are the same type of people who at the time of Jesus would have called for his death as well.
Perhaps,if they learned to read past the 3rd grade level they would know that Jesus was born a Jew and died a Jew, and that the odds of his being caucasian is less than zero.....

Posted by: smead1 | June 10, 2009 5:21 PM

No doubt this particular racist loony is also a Republican and a strong supporter of GWBush. There's no fool like an old fool.

Posted by: dsrobins | June 10, 2009 5:26 PM

I'll bet this loser isn't even on the "no fly" list, despite the fact that he tried to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve Board.

Posted by: douglaslbarber | June 10, 2009 5:26 PM

A right-wing terrorist in need of waterboarding?

Posted by: 2greekdc | June 10, 2009 5:27 PM

Was security guard wearing bullet proof vest? If not, why not? Especially at this venue which is the object of hatred by anti-semites who deny the Holocaust.

Posted by: philpost1 | June 10, 2009 5:27 PM

I remember the words of one who has since gone who said: "Let he who is without blame cast the first stone." And, seeing what has come to an old man who wore the uniform of our country and came, doubtless through a degenerative form of mental illness, to this place where his past acts of bravery and heroism for God and Country are vilified because he has deviated from good judgment into bad, after he put his life to good use in the name of Liberty for those whose necks were under the hobnailed boot of oppression, and has now committed acts of violence against those he believes are his enemy. Therefore, let us not in our haste lose sight of the fact that there is right and wrong. And, seeing in these past posts such vituperate denouncements of fellow citizens of differing views, I am reminded how things that rot from withing still keep, until their final moment of total dissolution, a semblance of the whole. Has it come to that? Are we such fools as to believe that the act of one person, regardless of what his ranting may imply, represents a trend toward such violent extremes that we should all become prisoners in our own country, patrolled by troops because there are by implication hidden elements of our own citizenry conspiring to bring anarchy, or the overthrow of our constituted government by force? What folly this whole line of thought seems, such so that it cannot be called reason. Are we not men? Can we not see that an event like this is not symbolic of the potential for other events but is in itself the result of very specific forces that have spent themselves in the doing? And, if we suspect veterans for their thoughts, and potential deeds, can we not blame everyone for their complicity in the very nature of existence and for those who have and those who have not? Exactly who is to blame for the disparity of power and riches? Who should rule and who should follow the plow? We are a nation bound together by laws, and a law has been broken, not by those who speak from soap boxes, but by a person whose act now makes him a criminal. Let us not confuse the difference between thought and action here, lest we cross a divide past which only the correctness of might determines what is called right and wrong.

Posted by: jehuamaziah | June 10, 2009 5:30 PM

So basically we have a crazy guy who shoots up some people. Now we have people claiming he is a domestic terrorist and the president ought to do something, jews upset because one crazy guy shoots a security guard, dems and repubs thinking their parties matter because of one crazy guy. Gee, I am a firm believer in that there are a lot of questions unanswered in JFK assasination, 9/11 being an inside job, and so on, but this guy is just another nut in the world. Crazy people do this all the time. This crazy just happened to be a white supremeacist. Apparantly with alzheimers as well. No need to clamp down on terror any more, hell they already stripped the bill of rights of any signifance. No need to shred it any further. Just a crazy guy. Nothing more. Though I do like his thinking on kidnapping the fed. A couple of high up bankers getting shot couldn't hurt the world very much at all. Bound to make it better. Don't take that last remark too seriously. Though I don't like bankers very much, I don't condone murder or kidnapping. Even if it is of greedy ass bankers with no souls.

Posted by: splatdown2002 | June 10, 2009 5:32 PM

The un-educated or undereducated are very prone to following an ego-maniac preaching fear....fear of something they don't understand. This killer strived to be an ego-maniac like Hitler and preached fear to gain a following...They can all be lumped into the same category OsmaBinLadin;RushLimbaugh;Hitler;the President of North Korea;and CarlRove.

Posted by: jfristriut | June 10, 2009 5:39 PM

Jehuamaziah, as eloquent as your monologue is, I think you missed the part about this guy ALREADY being a convicted felon. His conviction stems from 26 or so years ago. This wasn't some random act and he didn't JUST spiral into insanity. He's been there for some time.

Yes, as a veteran he deserves respect...up until the point he starts spewing hate speech and brandishing weapons. Respect gone.

Extremism is dangerous in all of its forms. There are too many people in this country who espouse so much hatred for blacks, liberals, jews, gays, feminists, conservatives, etc. that it is never a shock when rhetoric finally becomes action.

Posted by: Emmy11 | June 10, 2009 5:42 PM

jehuamaziah

Every variety of trash we have in this country, from William Calley to the Texas Tower shooter has, "wore the uniform of our country." It means NOTHING. The military is social welfare program for these deluded gun nuts. Wake up you idiot.

Posted by: AIPACiswar | June 10, 2009 5:48 PM

Right-wing and left-wing terrorists must be stopped.

But it's funny how there seems to be a lot more right-wing terrorists with guns and weapons ready to kill people.

Posted by: beargulch

>>>>
It is also odd that the left wing Homeland Defense didn't catch it, even though she named it.

Of course we are talking about the same Arizona Governor caught in the 1999 stories of drug war spill over allowed by her loose border policy, who denied it exsisted at all in 2009 as the ZAR.

ATTAH GIRL Janet "the disease Queen " has some explaining to do, even as little town names follow her.

Rory Vertigan, is one of those names.

http://www.kc3.com/self_defense/keepsecret.htm


People entrusted with our protection who lie about the truth, are never really protecting us from anything are they?

Posted by: dottydo | June 10, 2009 5:51 PM

Here's hoping that guys like this are a dying breed. And that they aren't taking others with them.

Posted by: zcezcest1 | June 10, 2009 3:09 PM

-------------------------------------------

As much as I share that sentiment the sad reality seems to be that the American Taliban's (aka fake christians with guns) numbers are only growing.

Boy, if only we'd elected S Palin none of this would have ever happened. I feel so guilty as a center-left voter :(

Posted by: htruman | June 10, 2009 5:52 PM

"Personally, I'd like to hear EVERY person who ripped that DHS report as full of crap to start apologizing and say "You know what? They might be on to something here..."

But it'll never happen. I wish for too much."

The whole point of the criticism of the DHS report is that it did NOT specifically identify any threats - such as this guy who apparently had a freaking website discussing his madness. Instead, it strongly suggested that if you happen to dislike, say, abortion or the recession you might become a domestic terrorist. Wow, what a helpful document -- failing to identify any real threats while simultaneously tarring millions of upstanding, law-abiding citizens based on abstract political beliefs.

But otherwise your post is dead on.

Posted by: zippyspeed | June 10, 2009 5:53 PM

The wingnuts aren't going to go away quietly, are they?

The more irrelevant they become, the more likely some of them will lash out.

Posted by: YouryellowribbonmagnetwontgetyouintoHeavenanymore | June 10, 2009 5:54 PM

Seems to me like Limbaugh's chickens are coming home to roost.

Posted by: clintatl | June 10, 2009 5:56 PM

The only way these uneducated losers can call attention to themselves is by killing innocent people.

Posted by: truth1 | June 10, 2009 5:58 PM


Probably got hooked on Bill O'Reilly rants about not having enough Christmas trees..


Posted by: YouryellowribbonmagnetwontgetyouintoHeavenanymore | June 10, 2009 5:59 PM

Another product of the Limbaugh, Gingrich, Palin hate campaign. Limbaugh and Gingrich have lived through this in the 60s. They know exactly what they are doing and this is their anticipated result. Anyone who followed a Palin rally saw the crowd of white supremacists, KKK, and domestic terrorists that followed her from state to state. Some you could identify by their high profile status, the others by their prison tatoos.

Posted by: xclntcat | June 10, 2009 6:00 PM

Hey dottydo

Where can I obtain an American Taliban membership form? I really admire the club of gun toting fake christians.

For real :-p

Posted by: htruman | June 10, 2009 6:01 PM

If the guy lives, maybe he can get a position on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge with some of bammie's other real close terrorist friends.

Posted by: 2xy4k9 | June 10, 2009 6:02 PM

It was Bush who se Homeland defense Zarminimized the Muslim running over people in San Francisco, as he screamed Jihad.
It was Bush who didn't crack down on Napolitano for her deep pockets getting citizens and police shot all over the placeas the drug war spilled into the streets there from Mexico under her watch.
People duct taped and dead along the freeways in her State while she was Governor, where secrets .


How could it possibly get worse?
She became the Homeland Defense ZAR.

Now we see how well that protection is going. Swine flu let loose and a system's judicial failures to protect the public.

If our system was charged as accessory in the next harm they allowed, like the judge who let the bomber go, facing the charge as an accessory for this murder, we would see fewer mistakes by those who are supposed to serve and protect us.

Janet Napolitano's prior before becoming "the swine flu queen" was "injured and dead police Queen"

Rory Vertigan,is only one name that was never known. If it had been known, we might not have seen what happened today.

Posted by: dottydo | June 10, 2009 6:03 PM

"The reason you don't hear about the black muslim on the front page of the newspaper is obvious. Society, in general, favors black muslims.

Golly, it sure is tough being a white male in a black muslim's world!

Posted by: joshlct"

We sure feel sorry for you, joshlct. It must be tough being white, and dumber than a rock!

Posted by: thrh | June 10, 2009 6:05 PM

As one of the whitest, least Semitic people on the earth, I grieve for the upstanding black man who protected the museum that chronicled one of the worst crimes in history, days after our first black president of the United States went to Cairo and then to Buchenwald and did remarkable and inspiring truth telling. Still, I can't help thinking about what it would be like to spend 70 some years with a heart full of hate. (I'm presuming even this man couldn't have hated like this as a child.) And I'm afraid some of the commenters here should be looking into their own hearts and asking themselves: is this how I want to spend my precious life, my heart consumed with hate and anger. Republican, neocon, Democrat, knee-jerk liberal (myself), black, white, Jewish, Christian, Muslim, atheist: we are all human beings with one precious life and nothing is more of a waste of life than hate.

Posted by: AnnNY | June 10, 2009 6:05 PM

Hang 'em high

Posted by: Schwartz1 | June 10, 2009 6:11 PM

If your country wasn't run by Jews- Hollywood, Wall Street, Politics (AIPAC), Sports team- there wouldn't be so much hatred against them.

Why do you have such a large and prominent Holocaust Museum in Washington? That's like having a "Slavery Museum in Bangkok". Why, because the Jews want it and no politician left or right will dare oppose them for fear of the "Anti-Setime" label, bad press, financial cuts and other AIPAC strategies- and many of you know this!

We non-Yanks can't help but laugh at how pathetically you guys are in knowing about the power of this group in your country. Hell, I know Chinese immigrants who have lived in my country for two-years and they know about the power of the Jewish lobby and their control on Hollywood. But ask a white American who runs the US and you get nothing but "duh"? The Jewish lobbies attempts to start a war with Iran is also leading to anti-Jewish anger!!!!

Guys, guys, I am not here to instil fighting amongst Americans. Left and Right-you're both IDIOTS!!!!

Posted by: akhtarman | June 10, 2009 6:14 PM

There's at least a good chance this guy was a Republican washingtonpost.com commenter.

Posted by: johnc_80 | June 10, 2009 6:19 PM

k9rescue wrote:
"sigh. sorry for the families of the people wounded. This nut job isn't representative of anything except paranoid schizophrenia.

meds people. take your meds..."

Finally, a comment that makes sense. The shooter at the Holocaust Museum is a twisted, delusional thug. His political affiliation is irrelevant. Our hearts go out to the family and friends of the security guard, a victim of a pointless and tragic act of violence.

Posted by: Sakrison | June 10, 2009 6:21 PM

It's going to be a long hot summer, dictated by domestic terrorism. What a disgrace. Thanks to all who facilitated this state of affairs.

Posted by: MisterJ8 | June 10, 2009 6:21 PM

How comical that there are idiots here linking this guy to the Republicans and Fox news. This in itself is a form of hate speech. These are the same tactics Hitler, Van Brunn and McCarthy used and that liberals once decried: guilt by association.

If Republicans had linked Obama and Democrats to the guy that assassinated the Army recruiter or to John Muhammad, the DC sniper, think of the outcry from outraged liberals!

Posted by: theduke89 | June 10, 2009 6:22 PM

Gee, and the conservatives went ballistic when the Homeland Security warned that true conservatives like Brunn--a veteran--might try to take advantage of those returning from service in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Will Sen. Coburn now want to guarantee the Brunns of the world the right to bear arms in the Capital? Maybe Coburn can get a taste of his own medicine.

Posted by: Garak | June 10, 2009 6:25 PM

I am a Semitic-American. Can y'all kindly explain what we ever did to y'all to deserve this type of treatment?

I'm totally prepared to make a full & complete apology for anything I or my ancestors may have done, but I just do not understand why the Gentiles are so angry at us.

Posted by: weaselB

>>>>>>>>>>>
A single nut case let out of prison by poor system response to his previous assaults, who never had him in lifelong mental health counseling hardly qualifies as representative of all people.

That form of Globalization and generalization does not play well.
RIP to the guard and condolences to the family, is a better response.

The System let us all down. Sleepy Homeland Defense should have tracked all the bombers loose in this Country.
Obama stiring the pot on overseas trips causing divisive kooks to poke some sick and evil heads out of the bowels of the earth, is our problem now.

Americans know our sons and daughters liberated Germany from Hitler.
This is not the Middle East or Germany yet, as far as I know.


Posted by: dottydo | June 10, 2009 6:26 PM

Von Brunn's diatribes are filled with references to "Jew lawyers," "Jew" this and "Jew" that. Never "Jewish." It reminds me of the Republicans who refer to the "Democrat" party. I guess it's a way of showing that you're a fellow zealot... the hate-mongers secret handshake.

Posted by: Letsgetreal2 | June 10, 2009 6:26 PM

I hope the FBI is watching the Republican Party

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 10, 2009 6:29 PM

Let's put this in perspective: I don't see much difference between Van Brunn's anti-Jewish screeds and many of the comments emanating from the left-wing on the WP's comment boards when the subject is Israel.

Posted by: theduke89 | June 10, 2009 6:29 PM

Hardcore conservatives are cornered, frustrated, and, apparently, feral.

Posted by: SaffronLove | June 10, 2009 6:31 PM

Oh yeah, to all of you damning hate speech. I say all speech is protected until they violate the standards set forth a long time ago:
1= Free speech ends when your fist hits my nose.
2-Don't yell fire in a crowded theatre.

Beyond that, yell all the hateful crap you want. Chances are that you'll just wind up looking like a fool anyway. But suppress one person's hate and you'll suppress everyones political stance. Welcome to 1984.

Posted by: splatdown2002 | June 10, 2009 6:32 PM

Let's put this in perspective: I don't see much difference between Van Brunn's anti-Jewish screeds and many of the comments emanating from the left-wing on the WP's comment boards when the subject is Israel.

==

Yeah calling for an end to illegal settlements, same thing as shooting people.

I guess you GOPpers really *are* this stupid

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 10, 2009 6:34 PM

And he hated "NEOCONS Bush and Cheney"

HA HA HA

He sounds like a typical WaPo blogger!

Posted by: pgr88 | June 10, 2009 6:34 PM

These sort of shootings only happen when a Democrat is president. As long as there's a Republican president the crazies feel represented.

But when an Obama or a Clinton is president the crazies feel they're on their own.

Google the abortion-clinic bombings and doctor assassinations, note the years

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 10, 2009 6:36 PM

fr gschwartz1:

>No doubt this guy will also get praised by Randall Terry of Operation Rescue. Thanks also to Fox News for your regular trumpeting of hate messages and defacto encouragement of violence.

And freddie phelps and his gang of four will show up, screaming, wailing and ranting with their stupid anti-gay signs at the funeral.

Posted by: Alex511 | June 10, 2009 6:38 PM

I am a Semitic-American. Can y'all kindly explain what we ever did to y'all to deserve this type of treatment?

I'm totally prepared to make a full & complete apology for anything I or my ancestors may have done, but I just do not understand why the Gentiles are so angry at us.

Posted by: weaselB | June 10, 2009 3:24 PM

Jews seemingly want to beat Christians down and take all their money. The truth does not seem to matter to non Christians and they will lie to get their means without compunction. That is why they are distrusted and hated by almost all people. This is only a story because it happened in a Jewish Museum. Killings happen each and every day in DC.

Posted by: junglejamm | June 10, 2009 6:39 PM

Hey dottydo

Where can I obtain an American Taliban membership form? I really admire the club of gun toting fake christians.

For real :-p

Posted by: htruman
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
You might try getting a new crystal ball.

I am a better Democrat as an Independent party member, than you will ever be.

My party went off the mark left, and I have no interest in the Republican Party.
Both are corrupt in my book.

Look at the facts:
An x -con is not supposed to have guns.
The system failed to protect and serve us.
Why?
Does the Zar of Homeland defense have a history of not protecting and serving properly?

You tell me. Look at Arizona from 1999 until she left. She was supposed to be a top cop. She lied openly about drug war spill over the border, then with all their ability to watch everyone....they miss a bomber nut job with guns as an X-CON?

Come on....get a real person in that job or eliminate it altogether.

Posted by: dottydo | June 10, 2009 6:41 PM

There's at least a good chance this guy was a Republican washingtonpost.com commenter.

Posted by: johnc_80 | June 10, 2009 6:19 PM

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Nah, I bet he hung out at Politico. That's where the real hell freaks congregate.

Posted by: htruman | June 10, 2009 6:43 PM

Von Brunn is probably a poster here screaming about Obama not having a LONG FORM birth certificate

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 10, 2009 6:50 PM

OK, so is the picture of him current? If so, there may be a benefit to being a hate-filled nut job; it sure keeps you looking young! I just don't believe that an 89 year old did thid - he must have been younger...

Posted by: ArtfulDodger2 | June 10, 2009 6:55 PM

Posted by: weaselB | June 10, 2009 3:24 PM

Jews seemingly want to beat Christians down and take all their money. The truth does not seem to matter to non Christians and they will lie to get their means without compunction. That is why they are distrusted and hated by almost all people. This is only a story because it happened in a Jewish Museum. Killings happen each and every day in DC.

Posted by: junglejamm | June 10, 2009 6:39 PM

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LOL!

Actually it's a cake walk for the Jews because unlike the fake christians they don't deride education and pursuing a viable skill set.

Fake christians on the other hand sit on their sorry apathetic arses, cling to simpleton conspiracies and then grasp for scapegoats when they realize that this tactic isn't garnering them American dream.

Posted by: htruman | June 10, 2009 6:57 PM

A terrible Judicial and probations system missed James Von Brunn, a criminal with guns. Xcon with a gun is a crime.

Homeland Defense missed James Von Brunn just a few blocks from the Whitehouse?


Janet's past is catching up quick.
The lie about the gang war violence spill over shows from 1999.

http://www.kc3.com/self_defense/keepsecret.htm

What a mess.

Obamaland should fire her.
The swine flu was her Katrina, but she is still there for Katrina II right in DC.

Posted by: dottydo | June 10, 2009 6:58 PM

I feel like I'm in the wrong room w/ all of this political haranguing, but I want to express my condolences to the family of the brave guard who got up this morning not knowing that today would be his last day on this earth. RIP Sir!

Posted by: randysbailin | June 10, 2009 7:01 PM

There's at least a good chance this guy was a Republican washingtonpost.com commenter.

Posted by: johnc_80

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Pssst!
Whisper...
X-cons don't vote.
X-cons cannot own firearms.

Posted by: dottydo | June 10, 2009 7:08 PM

Television commentators need to be very careful with what they are saying, unstable people are watching and hearing the covert messages to go out and do something and now they are. You know who you are just be careful. Keep your hate talk off the air because you are the fuel to the fire.

Posted by: mildredjohnson58 | June 10, 2009 7:11 PM

Rev.Wright was racist in his comment but remember he did not MURDER ANYONE!!!!

Posted by: mildredjohnson58 | June 10, 2009 7:15 PM

Hey I wonder why JakeD isn't providing his usual colorful commentary. Perhaps they "caught him" today, wink wink.

Posted by: htruman | June 10, 2009 7:17 PM

O'reilly, Beck, Hannity please watch your tone the unstable people are listening and awaiting your orders.

Posted by: mildredjohnson58 | June 10, 2009 7:18 PM

JakeD isn't an old man as he claims, when was the last time you saw a septuagenarian who used emoticons? JakeD is just a 30-something unemployed loser collecting a Nut Check and posting from his mom's basement

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 10, 2009 7:22 PM

He could have easily purchased firearms at a gun show or from a private seller, because background checks are not required. But, even beyond that, how far removed is this guy from the Limbaugh/Coulter crowd? No doubt, he ranted, spittled and raved to try to make his hateful points with all those who would listen. Minorities and Jews were singled out because these are often the group haters see as receiving "special government treatment from the liberals, etc." Just look at all the racial inneuendos and code words they applied to Obama when he was running for President.

Posted by: magnifco1000 | June 10, 2009 7:25 PM

JakeD isn't an old man as he claims, when was the last time you saw a septuagenarian who used emoticons? JakeD is just a 30-something unemployed loser collecting a Nut Check and posting from his mom's basement

Posted by: chrisfox8 | June 10, 2009 7:22 PM

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Thanks jerk! JakeD's my hero:-)

Next you're gonna tell us that unicorns and the tooth fairy don't exist.

Whatever!!!

Posted by: htruman | June 10, 2009 7:30 PM

He is a real hero.
May Peace be with you Mr. James Von Brunn.


Posted by: fan2lee1 | June 10, 2009 7:38 PM

All hail the hero of the racist trailer trash redneck Rethuglicans. The fundie wingnuts down there in Jesusland (aka the Con-fed-ur-a-say) are probably partying right now. This is proof the neocons really can't stand that their party is on the fringe...

Posted by: one4all | June 10, 2009 7:44 PM

Any of you with parents in their late 80s: Do they still navigate that much public transportation or drive these kinds of distances alone -- Eastern Shore into DC, locating the museum, and finding a parking place close enough to walk to it? The more I think about it, the harder it is for me to believe this guy was acting without help. People in their late 80s who still drive tend to stick to within a few miles of home and in very familiar territory. This guy sounds mean and crazy enough to be a willing shooter, but the logistics I really think someone else would have gotten him there. Like those Al Qaida operatives who got women out of mental institutions and strapped explosives onto them.

Posted by: jlizkenn@aol.com | June 10, 2009 7:50 PM

How is this guy any different from the guy who killed Dr. Tiller? Both crimes were motivated by hate. Glad these people are finally being exposed and put away. Unfortunately they take good people with them, simply because of their race, religious beliefs, and even of service to the community. Hate on a grand scale. No doubt about it... These people are creepy.
And it's good to know where these voices are coming from. Hopefully, the Internet will make them easy to track. Then they should be closely monitored.


These people finally explain the role and purpose of exile in civilization. Let them wander through the desert in search of their false God, and quote the bible. And see what they think about that.

I imagine these persons have rigid personalities, foremost. But I don't believe what so many are trying to push on the Internet that they did it because they were "nuts,"Loonies," "Off Their Rocker," or "mentally ill." Notice the positive associations of mental illness?

The one that really made me laugh was a prediction of a world controlled by "crazies," and how "crazies" will be responsible for the death of civilization. (Man, that's a mouthful, ain't it?) I kept imploring: People who have mental illness sometimes can't even manage their medication very well. You really think mentally ill people have organized a plot to destroy the civilization?


I tried to point out that (cough) that mental illness was a disease, a medical condition. And I kept pointing out their absurd understanding of mental illness until they shut up.

Posted by: zen99 | June 10, 2009 7:54 PM

grantpaten wrote:
"The killing of Dr. Tiller was front page news, and earned the strong condemnation of Obama, but nary a word was said about the black Moslem murderer of the two men at the recruiting station. Why?"

As long as we're asking questions, why was the Muslim (not Moslem) guy additionally charged with 15 counts of terrorism and Tiller's murderer was not?

Posted by: presto668 | June 10, 2009 8:00 PM

Look Lefties,
Here is when you can blame Rush, Hannity, O'reilly or Mark Levin (who by the way is as Jewish as Moses) any of the other folks that you call right-wing extremists: When they go on their radio or tv shows and say the following: "I want all of you who are listening/watching to go out and get guns and start shooting (fill in the blank as you choose)"

THEN AND ONLY THEN will you be able to justifiably BLAME the Hannity's etc for one person being shot by another. Even then, you can only do so if you can PROVE that the shooter was a listener/viewer.

You left wing nut-jobs control all of the largest newspapers in the country. ALL of the Network News broadcasts, CNN, and MSLSD. And yet, you howl because there is any kind of outlet for conservatives.

You are just ticked off that nobody watches the Dobermann or the Madsow. Nobody listens to them except a few lazy, left-wing losers who feel that the government's job is to take care of them from the cradle to the grave.

Posted by: TheN01skinsfan | June 10, 2009 8:01 PM

Perhaps in the ramblings of Von Brunn,there is the spark of the truth.Its usually the case.

Posted by: jellyhouse56 | June 10, 2009 8:04 PM

This bastard's rantings are identical to those I have read in WaPo whenever someone with a last name that could be construed as "Jewish" figures in the news, whenever Israel makes it to the front page.

The bastard's delusions didn't come out of thin air. They are part and parcel of the bastards' thinking that we read every day in this prominent newspaper. Indeed, these very blogging bastards more than enabled the bastard Von Braun.

They armed him.

Posted by: Farnaz1Mansouri1 | June 10, 2009 8:07 PM

k9rescue wrote:
"sigh. sorry for the families of the people wounded. This nut job isn't representative of anything except paranoid schizophrenia.

meds people. take your meds..."

Finally, a comment that makes sense. The shooter at the Holocaust Museum is a twisted, delusional thug...

Posted by: Sakrison | June 10, 2009 6:21 PM
====================================

Always blame it on mental illness. How convenient. So many specialists here who all know about mental illness. Amazing.

Posted by: zen99 | June 10, 2009 8:20 PM

I am a veteran. I grew up in a very conservative home, and I was raised in a very conservative denomination of Christianity. I believe in right and wrong, and I believe that political party has zero influence on greed, laziness and stupidity. I believe 'BeingSensible' was wrong, WE will pay to feed them. I believe that WaPo has some of the most intelligent, learned and hateful readers to ever own a computer. And I believe they service our world by giving it a color and sheen that we would all be lesser people without. Finally, I believe that they all have a right to think whatever they want, speak and write as they see fit, and make choices that suit only them, provided their choices do not interfere with my basic human right or yours.

Life, Liberty, and the PURSUIT of Happiness. These tenets took me to the fight, not the medals or college money. Those of you who continue to denigrate those who choose to serve, or those for whom it was compulsory, will reap what you sow.

I am looking forward to finding out that the nut-job I will not dignify by naming was not only never a Naval Officer, but probably ran away from the recruiting office. Wait for it... wait for it...

Posted by: thepearl0369 | June 10, 2009 8:23 PM

"Perhaps in the ramblings of Von Brunn,there is the spark of the truth.Its usually the case.

Posted by: jellyhouse56"

Present speaker excepted, however.

Posted by: thrh | June 10, 2009 8:31 PM

Would Cheney, Limbaugh and their ilk support or oppose rounding up ultra-right domestic terrorists like von Brunn, Roeder and Poplawski, sending them to Gitmo and waterboarding them to try to find out when and where their fellow-travelers plan to strike next?

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | June 10, 2009 8:32 PM

Notice the way right wingers like Von Brunn use the noun form in place of the adjective? He uses, "Jew banker," rather than "Jewish banker." Et cetera.

It's the same thing that right wingers do with the adjective form for members of the Democratic Party. They use, "Democrat Party," "Democrat politician."

It's a petty form of insult (akin to "China man," rather than "Chinese man") that becomes habitual. President Bush did it all the time, so do Republican members of Congress and "mainstream" conservative commentators.

Watch for it, listen to it. They are little Von Brunns in our midst.

Posted by: TerryOakland | June 10, 2009 8:32 PM

splatdown2002, Brunn was an America-hating conspiracy theorist just like yourself. Like you he is one of these imbecile 9/11 "truthers" who are so full of hate for this country they claim it perpetrated 9/11 on its own people.

Check out signer #9196 on the Justice for 9-11 Petition.

9196. James W. von Brunn, Maryland, USA

http://www.justicefor911.org/signatures.php?page=92

Nice company you keep!

Posted by: RealChoices | June 10, 2009 8:35 PM

bottom line is: hate comes from all angles - which has caused misery in the past, now, and the future?

Posted by: jwiegner | June 10, 2009 8:37 PM

This story really has the vermin scrambling out from under their rocks, doesn't it? Dottydoo, jellyhouse56 and all the creepie-crawlies!

Posted by: thrh | June 10, 2009 8:38 PM

Anyone calling this guy a "conservative" is utterly ignorant of not only conservativism, but liberalism, socialism, nazism and anti-semitism.

Posted by: theduke89 | June 10, 2009 9:27 PM

"Would Cheney, Limbaugh and their ilk support or oppose rounding up ultra-right domestic terrorists like von Brunn, Roeder and Poplawski, sending them to Gitmo and waterboarding them to try to find out when and where their fellow-travelers plan to strike next?"

Posted by: Nosy_Parker | June 10, 2009 8:32 PM

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If they were part of an organization that killed 3,000 Americans in a single day and there was a chance it could happen again, it's very likely they would. The problem, as I see it, is that the murderers you mention are American citizens and they've only killed one person.

Posted by: theduke89 | June 10, 2009 9:32 PM

This isn't about politics, this is about PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA. Google it and take a look. The guy is textbook. His sick mind fixated on "blacks and jews." Other favorites of this illness are the FBI, the CIA, the Mafia -- the list is endless. Why talk politics about a severely mentally ill raging achoholic. Stop placing meaning where there is none. He's just REALLY sick. Period.

Posted by: EdyS | June 10, 2009 9:39 PM

I found this post about him on stormfront.org using google:
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=122772

Posted by: GeekTracker | June 10, 2009 10:58 PM

If Van Brunn believed in a 9/11 conspiracy, that means he's as virulent a Bush-hater as most of the deranged lefties on this forum accusing Republicans of complicity in this particular crime.

But then lefties were never known for consistency in their arguments.

Posted by: theduke89 | June 11, 2009 12:33 AM

Wow if only we had heard this much about the MUSLIM who killed an innocent soldier the other day.... but oh no you can't insult MUSLIMS, in fact, in California, they have removed the story of our holocaust from the school books because Muslims do not believe in it!

I guess the liberals favor one anti-semite group over another?
SHAMEFUL.

Posted by: username | June 11, 2009 12:43 AM

OH and by the way, there is no 'conspiracy' on the Federal Reserve Bank... it's all true and we have seen how they have looted $14Trillion with the help of their criminal president with no accountability to destroy the country.

But since the Fed will soon be audited and REMOVED from this country, I guess you all had to throw that in to try to discredit it. But you won't, because the bill has 207s sponsors.

BUH-BYE FEDERAL RESERVE CRIMINALS!

Posted by: username | June 11, 2009 12:46 AM

If it were up to Gingrich, Cheney, Limbaugh, O'Reilly and Hannity...THIS guy would be the face of the Republican party.

Posted by: Drewster1 | June 10, 2009 3:25 PM
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You left wingers are really sickos. How is this guy any different that Obama and his anti-semitic budskis Wright and Farrakhan? Obama is a racist -- did you not read his book? The Muslims do not believe in the holocaust but you did not mind when one of them went out of control and killed the army guys the other day.

And don't forget you have William Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn, and Ted Kaczynzski who held Al Gore's kill all the people philosophy near and dear.

It's you freakin' libtards we need to fear. Especially man-women like Napolitano!

Posted by: username | June 11, 2009 12:54 AM

This isn't about politics, this is about PARANOID SCHIZOPHRENIA. Google it and take a look. The guy is textbook. His sick mind fixated on "blacks and jews." Other favorites of this illness are the FBI, the CIA, the Mafia -- the list is endless. Why talk politics about a severely mentally ill raging achoholic. Stop placing meaning where there is none. He's just REALLY sick. Period.

Posted by: EdyS | June 10, 2009 9:39 PM
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Your ignorance about mental illness is blinding me! Please stop. "favorites of this illness are the FBI, the CIA, the Mafia -- the list is endless." So schizophrenia, a disease, targets the FBI, CIA, the Mafia? Wow. A new list of symptoms! You have no clue what mental illness is. And it shows.

Posted by: zen99 | June 11, 2009 11:28 AM

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