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Posted at 10:46 AM ET, 10/15/2010

5 suspects arrested in U St. beating death

By Debbi Wilgoren

UPDATE:

A spokesman for Joe Englert, a DC 9 co-owner issued a statement from Englert who said "we are saddened by the events of last night. Our staff, families, and friends look forward to our day in court to prove the innocence of our long-time staff."

The spokesman, James Silk, said he also has business interests with Englert.

For more on the story check out Crime Scene.

UPDATE:

Council Member Jim Graham (D-Ward 1) wrote on a message on a listserv that the five suspects are employees of the DC9 club where the incident occurred. Police have not confirmed that.

UPDATE:

District Police have arrested five suspects in the overnight beating death of a man on U Street, said Lt. Nicholas Breul, police spokesman. Details of the arrests were to be announced later.

-- Mary Pat Flaherty


Man fatally beaten outside D.C. nightclub
6:04 a.m.

A man was beaten to death by a group of others early Friday after he allegedly hurled a brick through the window of a nightclub in the bustling U Street neighborhood, D.C. police said.

The man, whose name was not released pending notification of his family, reportedly threw the brick through the window of DC9 Nightclub, located at 1940 9th Street NW, just south of U Street, police said.

Officer Istmania Bonilla, a police spokeswoman, said between three and five people came out of the club after the window was shattered, pursued the man down the block and "severely beat him."

Police were notified just after 2:30 a.m., Bonilla said. The man was taken to a nearby hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Detectives are questioning people who witnessed the assault, Bonilla said, and do not yet know what may have motivated the man to throw the brick through the window. Police sealed off the 2000 block of 9th Street for several hours so that detectives could search the crime scene in daylight.

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The scene outside the DC9 nightclub on Friday morning. (Bill O'Leary/Post)

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Bloodstains remain on a crosswalk at 9th and U streets. (Bill O'Leary/Post)

By Debbi Wilgoren  | October 15, 2010; 10:46 AM ET
Categories:  Crime and Public Safety, DC  
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Comments

"Police have sealed off the block until daylight, so detectives can search for evidence after the sun came up"

Does the Washington Post still employ editors?

Posted by: nativedc | October 15, 2010 7:31 AM | Report abuse

The Bouncers have taken their job a little bit overboard. They have killed someone instead of detaining him and calling the police!!!

Posted by: smrrd | October 15, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

No, they don't (employ editors).

Posted by: chunche | October 15, 2010 7:51 AM | Report abuse

Race?

Posted by: rollmonte | October 15, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

No, they don't (employ editors).

Posted by: chunche | October 15, 2010 7:52 AM | Report abuse

He deserved it. DC9 is a great place to hang out, good music, easy going people. I can see why they beat him. I mean, it's apparent this thug had no respect for other people or property. And it wasn't the bouncers, they don't have bouncers. They have a guy at the door that checks ID's. It appears that it was the patrons sticking up for the place---- One less welfare recipient not getting my taxes if you ask me.

Posted by: Aimhigh2000 | October 15, 2010 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Well done. Now all we need is a few teenage bike thieves beaten by mob justice and this city may shape up.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | October 15, 2010 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Race?

Posted by: rollmonte

Why, are you keeping score?

Posted by: Rachelva | October 15, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

Aimhigh2000, Most "easy going people" don't kill other people when they're at the bar.

Posted by: ByBike | October 15, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

@Aimhigh2000 & @anarcho-liberal-tarian...

You shouldn't wish death upon anyone. Furthermore, none of us should be basing our judgements of the story of what happened on this blurb of an article.

Posted by: FrankfurtFreddie | October 15, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

Other more detailed reports state the man threw a brick through the window after being denied entry into DC9. He was chased down by patrons. Just a guess, maybe people did not enjoy being hit with a brick and or flying glass. The brick thrower did not deserve his fate, but tossing a brick through glass into a crowd is not an oft welcomed act.

Posted by: jonnydangerous | October 15, 2010 9:22 AM | Report abuse

There's no justice like angry mob justice.

Posted by: brandonwcorbett | October 15, 2010 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Race?

Posted by: rollmonte | October 15, 2010 7:52 AM
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The race of the people who beat up the guy was, blackhispanicasianindianwhite, you racist.

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | October 15, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

Race?

Posted by: rollmonte | October 15, 2010 7:52 AM

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Really are you going to post that for every article?

Posted by: agarnett1000 | October 15, 2010 9:39 AM | Report abuse

The blog post is inaccurate. The man was ALLEGEDLY beaten to death. The facts of the incident have not been compiled.

Come on Debbi Wilgoren!! We don't convict people without evidence and a trial. What kind of sloppy news coverage is this?

Funny that the man who was beaten is given the benefit of the doubt by Debbi Wilgoren for throwing the brick "after he allegedly hurled a brick through the window" but the accused are not afforded the same.

Posted by: thinkdifferent25 | October 15, 2010 9:52 AM | Report abuse

I bet the racist idiot rollmonte wants to know the race of the victim, but not the race of the alleged murderers. Sad.

Posted by: PepperDr | October 15, 2010 9:57 AM | Report abuse

Those drinks may have been pretty potent, and pricey in order for the patrons to chase the cat and beat the do-do out of him...

Posted by: mlombre69 | October 15, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse


the brick he threw could have killed or severely injured a club patron.

sometimes you reap what you sow.

there's nothing like street justice.

Posted by: potomacfever00 | October 15, 2010 10:04 AM | Report abuse

Aimhigh2000,

"He deserved it. DC9 is a great place to hang out, good music, easy going people."
Well thank goodness it was the "easy going" patrons who beat him to death.
I'd hate to see what ill-temered ones would do.
Honestly, does beating someone to death over a broken window really seem like an appropriate response to you? Seriously?

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | October 15, 2010 10:11 AM | Report abuse

Aimhigh2000,

"He deserved it. DC9 is a great place to hang out, good music, easy going people."
Well thank goodness it was the "easy going" patrons who beat him to death.
I'd hate to see what ill-tempered ones would do.
Honestly, does beating someone to death over a broken window really seem like an appropriate response to you? Seriously?

Posted by: BigDaddy651 | October 15, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Considering the band that night was straight edge hardcore from Philly, the odds of them being very sober white angry men are high. and let's try keep the racism to a freaking minimum.

Posted by: martbuchwald | October 15, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

The blog post is inaccurate. The man was ALLEGEDLY beaten to death. The facts of the incident have not been compiled.

Come on Debbi Wilgoren!! We don't convict people without evidence and a trial. What kind of sloppy news coverage is this?

Posted by: thinkdifferent25
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Ummm....I don't think it's alleged that the man was beaten to death. Did he just fall and die? For the accused it is alleged that they committed the beating.

Posted by: 6thsense79 | October 15, 2010 10:14 AM | Report abuse

Someone throwing a brick through DC9= Wrong

A group of people beating a man to death for it= Very wrong

DC9, from experience, does not have easygoing people. People are nice, but beating someone to a bloody pulp sounds about right.

DC9 needs REAL security. The fact that the club ALLOWED patrons to do this and didnt stop it, is horrifying.

This is a complete tragedy and I hope everyone learns what ignorance and anger results to.

Posted by: mana86 | October 15, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

They should have hit him a couple of times and then held him for the police. 3 to 5 people beating him to death is very f'd up.

Posted by: jackson641 | October 15, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Race?

Posted by: rollmonte | October 15, 2010 7:52 AM
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I guess the good old people at the Post didn't like my last comment.

The race of the guy was "white".

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | October 15, 2010 10:28 AM | Report abuse

He was arrested for throwing two bricks into the front window of a crowded bar on U St. He wasn't beaten to death. He was held by security until the police arrived and was alive and well while taken into their custody. He died in police custody.

Posted by: goddes0110 | October 15, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

THE FACTS IN THIS ARTICLE ARE WRONG!!!
First, the band was a New York Hardcore Band, not a straight edge band from Philly. Second, the guy PUNCHED thru the window, it's not like there are just bricks laying around for the throwing on the street.

Posted by: jonconatron | October 15, 2010 10:31 AM | Report abuse

martbuchwald, Agnostic Front is from New York, not Philly, and they are not straight edge. Most of the people there weren't either. Also, none of the bands or the patrons were racist, and the scene in DC is really ethnically and culturally diverse... it's DC! Racists would never attend a DCHC show in this generation. Get your facts straight please.

Posted by: 123abc1 | October 15, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Never mind rollmonte. He's just checkered1 with a new name.

But it's the same old loser. Still racist, still unintelligent, and still "little". It's the "little" part that's got his draws in a bunch over black guys.

Posted by: ceefer66 | October 15, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

CM Graham just posted a notice to the U street listserv saying that is was employees of DC9 who chased the drunk the down the street and beat him to death; that MPD has arrested 5 DC9 employees and charged some of them with homicide.

Posted by: dingoAndPanda | October 15, 2010 10:40 AM | Report abuse

I've been to DC9. The people are very friendly and easy going. Blaming the crowd for last night's band is stereotyping hardcore fans and is just as offensive as racial stereotyping. It's sloppy logic.

Throwing a brick through a window is potentially assault with a deadly weapon and at the very least reckless endangerment.

Should he have been beaten to death? No. Did he deserve a beat down? Probably, and I'm a pacifist.

Posted by: anarcho-liberal-tarian | October 15, 2010 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Clearly DC needs to pass a law like Virginia's that allows firearms in bars. (tongue firmly planted in cheek)

Posted by: johnnycomelately1 | October 15, 2010 10:48 AM | Report abuse

I assume the club is now closed.

Oh, it wasn't a go-go show?

Never mind. Carry on, lads!

Posted by: Godfather_of_Goals | October 15, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

jackson641 said: They should have hit him a couple of times and then held him for the police. 3 to 5 people beating him to death is very f'd up.

I agree! Now 5 people will probably end up in prison because of one idiot...6 lives damaged instead of just one!

Posted by: DecafDrinker | October 15, 2010 10:54 AM | Report abuse

u street was a lot better when it was all ghetto. the current crop of twenty-somethings have ruined the area. i'm serious. i hate those people

Posted by: slim4 | October 15, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Race?

Posted by: rollmonte | October 15, 2010 7:52 AM
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Posted by: Robbnitafl | October 15, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

From Ward 1 council member Jim Graham:


"Dear Friends, there was tragedy last night in the vicinity of 9th and Florida.
I have spoken to various people this morning and there are questions unanswered.
But, according to MPD information, here are what appear to be the basic facts:
An intoxicated person was put out of DC-9 at 1940 9th St. He returned and somehow managed to gain admittance. And was put out again. He then returned and threw two bricks (perhaps at one of the employees?) which broke the window. (Earlier that night, another patron had punched and broken a window, he was arrested for that again earlier in the evening.)
Bar employees chased the man down to the 2000 block, caught him and beat him. MPD arrived and he was transported to the hospital where he died.
Five DC 9 employees have been arrested and charged, some—at this hour-- with homicide. Arraignment is this afternoon.
There are questions unresolved in this matter. But MPD is now considering using the emergency police powers of the MPD Chief to shut the establishment for up to 96 hours, allowing the ABC board hold a hearing to consider possible suspension of the alcohol license.
More as additional information is released. Bests Councilmember Jim Graham"

Posted by: MicahLodovico | October 15, 2010 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I assume they beat them with their fists? See, we have to outlaw fists!!! Stupid Liberals

Posted by: ryanNdc | October 15, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I assume they beat them with their fists? See, we have to outlaw fists!!! Stupid Liberals

Posted by: ryanNdc | October 15, 2010 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I'd rather just outlaw you from thinking.

Posted by: Bigfoot_has_a_posse | October 15, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

I am a resident of the North Logan neighborhood and have been since 1994. I have certainly enjoyed the neighborhood imrpovement and like to go out to eat on U Street NW and 14th Street NW. The real problem with our neighborhood is the outsiders who come to operate nightclubs and encourage people to use this area as a destination. Local restaurants work well: these night clubs obvioulsy do not. I am especially disheartened to learn that it was club employees who participated in the homicide. These clubs offer no management training and often employ people with violent and criminal backgrounds. Without this club (and many others) U Street will become a place where I once again feel safe walking to dinner. The prescense of this club and others negativley affects the legitimate businesses. It is time the neighbors stopped turning a blind eye to this behavior and demand of their city leaders that U St NW and 14th St NW are cleaned up, and people from outside the neighborhood do not have these clubs that employ and cater to criminal elements to come to. The rash of property crime, muggings, armed robberies, and now homicides can be directly tied to clubs like this one that are a magnet for the members of the criminal underground.

Posted by: NotARacist | October 15, 2010 11:22 AM | Report abuse

I used to be a regular and sometimes DJ at DC9 on Fridays and consider myself friends with many of the bartenders, doormen, and the owner. The people who work there are some of the best people you could meet. The patrons are typically great as well. Hearing about this is heartbreaking both for the man killed and the employees involved. I know they did not intend to end this man's life but went too far retaliating and defending the property.
Do not let this isolated incident indict the neighborhood and club, which are both great places to have a good time.

Posted by: bthemax | October 15, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Betcha he won't do that again! If he'd been doing what he should have, it wouldn't have happened. Lesson #1: Don't f*** with people you don't know.

Posted by: ronjaboy | October 15, 2010 11:24 AM | Report abuse

He deserved it? I am surprised any of you even know how to read.

Posted by: MaxwellR | October 15, 2010 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Lesson #2: If you f*** with people, don't be surprised if something happens to you!

Posted by: ronjaboy | October 15, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Some of these comments are horrifying. The man is DEAD!!!! Sorry if he was drunk, obnoxious, threatening, spoiled your good time, or all of the above, but NO ONE should be chased down and beaten like that! Where are we? Washington DC 2010, Berlin 1939, or Birmingham 1962? We have a police force and a rule of law here, and if that breaks down, the smug people who think justice was meted out here should have no complaint if somebody who shares their philosophy doesn't like the way they act, and doles out "street justice" with a fatal beat down on them. I'm a native Washingtonian and I am ashamed to read these comments.

Posted by: sekarl | October 15, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Lesson #2: If you f*** with people, don't be surprised if something happens to you!

Posted by: ronjaboy | October 15, 2010 11:28 AM | Report abuse

"The fact that the club ALLOWED patrons to do this and didnt stop it, is horrifying. "

And how is it that the club ALLOWED this? The club owners and employees are not liable for actions of people on the street.

Posted by: BEEPEE | October 15, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

To NotARacist:
Your comments show you know nothing about 'this club'. One of the owner/managers lives and always has within walking distance to the establishment. Some of the staff have worked at DC9 since the day it opened. DC9 opened long before many of the other establishments in the immediate area. I am surprised to hear it may have been employees as those I know are very friendly and personable. There are problem establishments but DC9 is not one of them. Their mistake may have been booking an act whose crowd turned out to be rougher than the usual patrons. I am a Columbia Heights resident of 20 years.

Posted by: jonnydangerous | October 15, 2010 11:34 AM | Report abuse

To those of you who say "bet he won't do that again" or "he got what he deserved" this sounds remarkably like what Ernest Avery Avants or James Ford Seale would say under the same circumstances. Use your google machine if you have questions.

Posted by: NotARacist | October 15, 2010 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Aimhigh2000: is definitely a misnomer for you. You advocate beating someone to death is a deserving punishment for ANYONE who goes against the grain??? Hope you never do anything that may p.o someone and the tables are turned on you - whereby you're beaten to death. So maybe stoning you, or lashing your flesh until it hangs in ribbons... would be justification for your punishment. Gang mentality. YOU TOOK A LIFE!!

NotARacist: Do you have facts to prove your statement??The rash of property crime, muggings, armed robberies, and now homicides can be directly tied to clubs like this one that are a magnet for the members of the criminal underground. bY YOUR WORDS YOU FIND IT JUSTIFIED THAT THE ATTACKERS TOOK A LIFE. SHAME ON ALL WHO AGREES THAT THE MURDER VICTIM GOT WHAT HE DESERVED.

Posted by: prettythewoman | October 15, 2010 11:38 AM | Report abuse

What's wrong with those of you who think killing someone for breaking a window is okay? You better hope your children don't grow-up to be vandals. Mindless.

Posted by: jckdoors | October 15, 2010 11:44 AM | Report abuse

What's wrong with those of you who think killing someone for breaking a window is okay? You better hope your children don't grow-up to be vandals. Mindless.

Posted by: jckdoors | October 15, 2010 11:46 AM | Report abuse

As a resident of the area, and a business owner there, and someone who contribtes to the improvemtn of the neighborhood there are plenty of proven instances where the property crime, muggings, and assaults are committed by the outsiders who come to the clubs and then, after becoming drunk, prey on neighbors. I am sorry if these clubs are fun for you: they are not fun for me, and I live in the neighborhood, own property and contribute to the betterment of the neighborhood, not its demise. If you read my statements I not only do not condone the homicide but am clear that it should be a launching point for the neighbors to demand that these clubs that cater to, and employ, criminal elements should be closed. To those of you who still defend this club it is you who are condoning the murder by your excusing the club from any liability or culpability. Ideally this club and others lik it will be closed, the men being arraigned will be found guilty and put in jail, the family of the victim will seek a hefty civil award from the club owner who employed the murderers, and you preachy party patrons will stay in your own neighborhoods and leave mine to a peaceful and pleasant future!

Posted by: NotARacist | October 15, 2010 11:48 AM | Report abuse

If you throw a brick through a bar window, you deserve to get your ass whooped.

Posted by: emcglaughlin | October 15, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

It's against the law to throw a brick through a window. You might kill someone inside.

Posted by: spk202 | October 15, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

It's against the law to throw a brick through a window. You might kill someone inside.

Posted by: spk202 | October 15, 2010 11:53 AM | Report abuse

sounds like a case of dumb meeting dumber if you ask me....

Posted by: Baccuss | October 15, 2010 11:55 AM | Report abuse

If I was the judge. I would pardon them. Please don't leave them in jail without a bond on a murder charge. >>> It is totally illegal and immoral and dwrong to even think about charging them.

Posted by: spk202 | October 15, 2010 11:56 AM | Report abuse

The dead man was wrong if he threw a brick or punched the window and it shattered all over the place. He does not deserve to be murdered for that. So, he's been punished with death by angry people. Those angry people are now murderers and will most likely go to jail. Was it really worth it to destroy their own lives over broken glass (even if someone MAY HAVE been cut)? The murderers are in no way better than the dead guy.

Come on, does that make sense? Stop and think about what you are doing and saying!

Posted by: shejoy | October 15, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

To NotARacist:
“I am a resident of the North Logan neighborhood and have been since 1994. I have certainly enjoyed the neighborhood improvement and like to go out to eat on U Street NW and 14th Street NW. The real problem with our neighborhood is the outsiders who come to operate nightclubs and encourage people to use this area as a destination.”

-DC is a destination city for all kinds of people from all backgrounds. Some people happen to have criminal backgrounds; this does not make them automatically more likely to commit murder. Since you live in Logan Circle, I am willing to bet that you actually have no idea what the DC punk and hardcore scene is like or who makes up the scene. To premise your comment by creating a username ‘NotARacist’, is offensive. To assume that all the people who attended MUST be racist criminals is completely ignorant. This kind of thinking is what creates friction between people.

“Local restaurants work well: these night clubs obviously do not. I am especially disheartened to learn that it was club employees who participated in the homicide.”

-The nightclub workers were brought in for questioning, we don’t actually know who was indicted and if there are patrons involved who have not yet been questioned. To assume that nightclub workers are criminals is wrong. To judge someone for having had trouble with the law is wrong. They are doing a job that a lot of people would never do, and that a lot of people who attend the shows are thankful for. There are countless currently upstanding citizens in the US who have had criminal backgrounds; it’s not that hard to get arrested, especially if you’re not white.

“These clubs offer no management training and often employ people with violent and criminal backgrounds. Without this club (and many others) U Street will become a place where I once again feel safe walking to dinner. The presence of this club and others negatively affects the legitimate businesses.”

-To imply that DC9 is not a legitimate business is also ignorant. You are demeaning a venue that provides shows for a subculture that is important to many people’s lives. You also have no idea whether or not they offer management training, or what that entails.
“It is time the neighbors stopped turning a blind eye to this behavior and demand of their city leaders that U St NW and 14th St NW are cleaned up, and people from outside the neighborhood do not have these clubs that employ and cater to criminal elements to come to. The rash of property crime, muggings, armed robberies, and now homicides can be directly tied to clubs like this one that are a magnet for the members of the criminal underground.”

-Robberies, crimes, muggings etcetera all occur out of desperation. People like you have no concept of what it is like to live in desperation or poverty. Some empathy and understanding for them would be nice. The entire subculture is being blamed for a horrible act of a few people once again.

Posted by: 123abc1 | October 15, 2010 11:57 AM | Report abuse

I disagree. We have laws. You can't throw a brick through anyones window. I don't know why some people insist you should try to stop him and wait for police. He might just pick up another brick.

Posted by: spk202 | October 15, 2010 11:58 AM | Report abuse

-The bottom line is that not everyone’s idea of a good time is ‘going to a restaurant’. People have different identities, interests etc. that need to be respected. This was a disgusting and horrible crime, and this person in no way deserved to die. Please don’t blame an entire sub-cultural identity for someone’s untimely demise. It is the fault of those involved ONLY, not the club, not all the patrons and not all the employees, and not anyone with a criminal background in DC.

Posted by: 123abc1 | October 15, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

U Street is becoming so....ghetto, and almost as bad as Adams Morgan.

Posted by: B-rod | October 15, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Trial and error? The District needs to implement immediately a police presence in the entertainment and restaurant areas. This is an ongoing problem in the adams-morgan, Shaw and Mount Pleasant neighborhoods-where the heart of the re-birth has changed the fortunes of residents in the last 20 years. Is it time for council member Graham to step down?

Posted by: ChickGlass7 | October 15, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Trial and error? The District needs to implement immediately a police presence in the entertainment and restaurant areas. This is an ongoing problem in the adams-morgan, Shaw and Mount Pleasant neighborhoods-where the heart of the re-birth has changed the fortunes of residents in the last 20 years. Is it time for council member Graham to step down?

Posted by: ChickGlass7 | October 15, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Just remember if you get hit in the head with a brick. YOur probably dead.

Posted by: spk202 | October 15, 2010 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Trial and error? The District needs to implement immediately a police presence in the entertainment and restaurant areas. This is an ongoing problem in the adams-morgan, Shaw and Mount Pleasant neighborhoods-where the heart of the re-birth has changed the fortunes of residents in the last 20 years. Is it time for council member Graham to step down?

Posted by: ChickGlass7 | October 15, 2010 12:01 PM | Report abuse

-The bottom line is that not everyone’s idea of a good time is ‘going to a restaurant’. People have different identities, interests etc. that need to be respected. This was a disgusting and horrible crime, and this person in no way deserved to die. Please don’t blame an entire sub-cultural identity for someone’s untimely demise. It is the fault of those involved ONLY, not the club, not all the patrons and not all the employees, and not anyone with a criminal background in DC.

Posted by: 123abc1 | October 15, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

Race?

Posted by: rollmonte | October 15, 2010 7:52 AM
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Just assume that he's an illegal alien. Let's just say it was an illegal that threw the brick & illegals that beat him to death. That always seems to make everyone feel better.

Posted by: LadeM | October 15, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

To everyone of you who so coldly post that this young man, son, brother, who made a tragic error in judgement got what he deserved, I pray some day someone visits that same jusitice upon you.

Posted by: ILuvUS | October 15, 2010 12:03 PM | Report abuse

Christ-less, mindless,degenerate monkeys.

Posted by: mossmillennium | October 15, 2010 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Reading this made me think of the William Golding book "Lord of the Flies." This is what happened. You should not be surprised at what can happen when raw emotions, fear and a mod are in the mix.

Posted by: johng1 | October 15, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

NotARacist: I don't know if you are aware of which club this story references. I believe the "outsiders" who bring the needed revenue to your area and business who come to this club are law-abiding. There have never been problems associated with this club until today.

And to everyone else asking about race, there is a very good chance that all parties involved in this incident are white. Tkae your notions elsewhere.

Posted by: bthemax | October 15, 2010 12:07 PM | Report abuse

come on people, we've all been to u street at that time of night. plenty of drunken idiots rambling around causing trouble. it's not hell but it's not business-friendly either. the dc punk scene has been around since the late 70s and i'm pretty sure bands will be able to find another bar to play in. this isn't about the punk subculture or throwing a brick through a window, it's about a few idiots who tried to be tough but went too far. too bad that they made a mistake but i hope they pay for it.

Posted by: mikeleon87 | October 15, 2010 12:08 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: NotARacist | October 15, 2010 11:48 AM

There's been 'clubs' on U street since before any of us were alive....U never heard of Black Broadway?

And I agree with the above comment about U Street was better when it was considered a 'ghetto' (in his words)...as compared to the 20-something 'gentrifiers' who now populate the community and act like they are Christopher Columbus discovering 'America' even though they were ALREADY people living there.....

...That can actually be applied to all these NW neighborhoods south of 16th St nowadays.......

Who remembers the Old W.U.S.T.??? Or Republic Gardens? Or Howard Theater?

None....I thought so....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 15, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey thinkdifferent25 - wake up and smell the coffee.

Posted by: password11 | October 15, 2010 12:10 PM | Report abuse

this isn't about the punk subculture or throwing a brick through a window, it's about a few idiots who tried to be tough but went too far. too bad that they made a mistake but i hope they pay for it.

Posted by: mikeleon87 | October 15, 2010 12:08 PM

But if this was a go-go, it would be different, right? Because I try to apply that same logic to senseless killings all over DC/PG but everyone just lumps every situation to a 'bunch ot Thugs' who deserve it and such...........

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 15, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Wasn't WUST a religious AM station? I think it was where or near where the 930 club is now. Anyway, I always disliked those kind of screaming and yelling god stations.

Posted by: johng1 | October 15, 2010 12:14 PM | Report abuse

your last comment is correct 4thFloor. This indeed seems like those senseless killings that happen often in the city. This time, it is news because of the nature of the club, neighborhood and clientele.

Posted by: johng1 | October 15, 2010 12:17 PM | Report abuse

I hope that this incident does not bring down the U street corridior. I like the way it has been re-made and the way that it still reflects its older heritage. It is vibrant and an asset to the city. An over-reaction by the authorities and busines owners against bars and night clubs would hurt everyone. And people really need to get over this race crap. Three college students were stabbed outside the thirsty Turtle in College Park in a similar drunken brawl. It happens everywhere when people get too drunk and the clubs fail to regulate their patrons.

Posted by: PepperDr | October 15, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

"A popular venue for live contemporary music, the 9:30 Club also has ties to the go-go days of yesteryear. Known as the Wust Radio Music Hall until 1996, the hall featured mostly R&B performances, but prominent go-go bands Junkyard, Northeast Groovers, Backyard and Uncalled For Band (which used to count popular artist Wale among its members) all performed on the Wust stage."

http://guide.thehoya.com/node/507

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 15, 2010 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree with 4th floor and johng1

Posted by: 123abc1 | October 15, 2010 12:19 PM | Report abuse

It was DC9 not 9:30 Club...

Posted by: 123abc1 | October 15, 2010 12:22 PM | Report abuse

thanks for the link 4thFloor!

Posted by: johng1 | October 15, 2010 12:24 PM | Report abuse

If he threw a brick through the window, then I would think they threw him out, and for a good reason. Beating him to death though is pretty extreme. The people who chased him may have been the people who he was harassing inside.
What's this Race thing? you want to know if he's a white guy beat up by black guys or a hispanic guy beat up by white guys, or whatever? What's the difference?

Posted by: mikeb14 | October 15, 2010 12:27 PM | Report abuse

^^^I know...I was just refering to the history of U Street Corridor....Because even though he lives near the neighborhood, NotARacist (alledgely), does not seem to know the history of his area. There were night clubs there forever, and it wasn't always the 'punk rock' type genre around......

Look - @This article - It's unfortunate, but the only thing we can do is use this as a learning lesson next time we get drunk to not do something stupid, such as knocking a window out of a club......because it can get you killed.....

Posted by: 4thFloor | October 15, 2010 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Here's a more up to date article:

http://www.tbd.com/articles/2010/10/man-found-dead-in-northwest-21726.html

Posted by: bthemax | October 15, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

This story reminds me of a Bouncer at Spanky's Shenanigan's Pub in Leesburg, VA. I saw a guy crack a joke and the bouncer thought the guy was joking about one of the waitresses, which he was not. The bouncer dude was about a foot taller and slightly larger build than the older gentleman who had made the joke. The bouncer then proceeded to get in the guy's face almost like he was picking a fight. The older guy didn't back down from the bouncer and told him he was f*%$#@! crazy. Could have been a bad situation if the manager at Spanky's hadn't asked the patron to leave the place when it wasn't even his fault and had been minding his own business. Kind of reminds of this a little bit, except for the patron left while the bouncer stayed back in the corner acting like he was all mad and stuff. No bricks were thrown......

Posted by: hogfarmer55 | October 15, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

A hard road to gentrification aint it?!

Posted by: dc4life | October 15, 2010 12:38 PM | Report abuse

The cat probably dared the attackers to get him, i.e. git deez nuttz not now, but right now...

Posted by: mlombre69 | October 15, 2010 12:41 PM | Report abuse

AimHigh2000 you are just plain ignorant....regardless of how much you think DC9 is a party, someone lost his life and a brick or shattered glass is no comparison...There is a special place in hell reserved for you and I personally cant wait til you get there.... Now how is that for selling death!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: iman_streety | October 15, 2010 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Forget the color of the victim and the alleged assailant(s) they are all human beings.

Sure, the victim should not have thrown a brick through the club's window.

But, people should learn how to control themselves. WE HAVE TO DO BETTER PEOPLE!!!

I don't care what we do in life NO ONE deserves to die unless it's God's will and his judgement!!! Let's pray together and stay together no matter our racial differences. We are all human! Peace & Many blessings to you all~

Posted by: wonderingwhy | October 15, 2010 12:49 PM | Report abuse

I bet it felt exhilarating to those 5 thugs as they beat that hapless drunkard mercilessly?

Posted by: jab00 | October 15, 2010 12:50 PM | Report abuse

Yet another reason why I'm just a part-time punk:

"They play their records very loud,
And pogo in the bedroom,
In front of the mirror,
But only when their mum's gone out.
They pay 5-pence fares on the buses,
And they never use toothpaste,
But they got two-fifty to go and see The Clash...

...tonight!

Here they come,
La la la la la la,
La la la la la la,
The part-time punks!"

(((Long live the TVPs.)))

Posted by: FedUpInMoCo | October 15, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

See ya later DC9.

Posted by: lingering_lead | October 15, 2010 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Ok, how many guys does it take to maintain one guy????

At what point was this guy beaten enough where he stopped???

Murder is Murder, there is no defense?

What even more sad, the people who stood around and the management inside did nothing to try and stop these guys.

I hope the family sues the hell out of DC9, forces it to close and the owner loses everything, what arragance to think that you can find an ounce in innocense.

Every single on of these guys should be put behind bars for a while.

Punkers Bars are too many in DC anyway-

Posted by: weaverf | October 15, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Damn, please do not tell the the New DC residents are acting out.

Who would have thought this could happen.

Posted by: dccounselor72 | October 15, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I see a lot of you were there and have all the details. Please tell us more.
Other sources are showing a very different side of the story.
Knowing almost all of the people involved, it is frustrating to read some of these comments. These are not thugs, they are small in stature and not the types to carry out a beating.
Witnesses are saying they saw the dead guy getting into a squad car alive and being driven off. I don't want to be one of those guys, but maybe the wrong men were arrested for this guy's death.

Posted by: bthemax | October 15, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

To the family of the victim of the homicide: I am very, very sorry for your loss. This horrible, senseless act could have been prevented by sensible, diligent club stewardship, training and management supervison of this establishment. Hire an aggresive attorney and sue the owners Englert and Silk (and others) for huge civil damages and penalties. Be diligent: interview many attorneys. Make sure the one you hire understands how much you loved your relative and how deeply and terribly this homicide affects you. The callous press release that "self-absolved" the owners Englert and Silk from any remorse or culpability is beyond the pale. Their club employees apparently allowed your relative to become drunk, and then when he was so intoxicated he wasn't responsible for his actions they proceded to murder him. It is clear to me that had these owners been even slightly diligent in their business practices your relative would be alive today. He might have been arrested, and might have to pay for a broken window. But he would be alive. The effect of merely defending such civil litigation may hopefully drive this club out of business, and a positive outcome would be that you win and are somewhat compensated for your terrible loss. Compensation will not bring back your loved one but it will send a message that this kind of horrible management and callous attitude is not the way we conduct or tolerate business in 2010. Additionally the civil suit would serve as a chilling lesson for other club owners who think that patrons who break windows are fair game for a murdeous contingent of employees.

To correct some asumptions about me from among my neighbors that I read above: I am not a racist. And you have no idea if I am black or white. From your comments about me you should look inside your own heart at your racial assumptions. I have no idea nor do I care what color the employees, the owners or the patron that was murdered are. I know exactly where this club is and have visited it years ago. It has nothing to do with U Steet's history of "Black Broadway" anymore than Rite Aid at 13th and U does. Not only do I celebrate my neighborhoods wonderful past but I promote its preservation and celebration.

Just because U Street NW is a destination playgound does not mean that the homicide of a club's patron, the beating of gay people by groups of thugs, the gang-related shooting of a rival at a crowded intersection, the property crime and vandalism and countless muggings and armed robberies are excusable as the byproduct of "someone's idea of fun". We celebrate diversity but draw the line at celebrating criminal activity.

Posted by: NotARacist | October 15, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

I'll clarify-- he deserved a good whoopin'. Yes, sad that he died-- but, had that brick killed someone inside, what would the posts look like? I go, and will continue to go to DC9--- its one of the better places to hang out with friends on weekends. Throwing a brick because you got tossed from a bar wasn't smart, and yeah, maybe the people who allegedly beat him shouldn't have-- but then again, look at the time of night, the fact that he was drunk, and the alleged group that beat him (I seriously doubt Staff were involved) probably had a few drinks too. Did they mean to hit him that hard? Probably not. But, before Jim Graham or anyone jumps to conclusions, let the facts come out. It may well be that patrons tackled him, and most likely staff tried to intervene-- which is what I think happened, but, we'll see when all facts are made public.

Posted by: Aimhigh2000 | October 15, 2010 1:32 PM | Report abuse

I'll clarify-- he deserved a good whoopin'. Yes, sad that he died-- but, had that brick killed someone inside, what would the posts look like? I go, and will continue to go to DC9--- its one of the better places to hang out with friends on weekends. Throwing a brick because you got tossed from a bar wasn't smart, and yeah, maybe the people who allegedly beat him shouldn't have-- but then again, look at the time of night, the fact that he was drunk, and the alleged group that beat him (I seriously doubt Staff were involved) probably had a few drinks too. Did they mean to hit him that hard? Probably not. But, before Jim Graham or anyone jumps to conclusions, let the facts come out. It may well be that patrons tackled him, and most likely staff tried to intervene-- which is what I think happened, but, we'll see when all facts are made public.

Posted by: Aimhigh2000 | October 15, 2010 1:33 PM | Report abuse

I'll clarify-- he deserved a good whoopin'. Yes, sad that he died-- but, had that brick killed someone inside, what would the posts look like? I go, and will continue to go to DC9--- its one of the better places to hang out with friends on weekends. Throwing a brick because you got tossed from a bar wasn't smart, and yeah, maybe the people who allegedly beat him shouldn't have-- but then again, look at the time of night, the fact that he was drunk, and the alleged group that beat him (I seriously doubt Staff were involved) probably had a few drinks too. Did they mean to hit him that hard? Probably not. But, before Jim Graham or anyone jumps to conclusions, let the facts come out. It may well be that patrons tackled him, and most likely staff tried to intervene-- which is what I think happened, but, we'll see when all facts are made public.

Posted by: Aimhigh2000 | October 15, 2010 1:35 PM | Report abuse

"Aimhigh2000" you've got to be kidding me, right? This guy deserved to die because you like DC9?

Posted by: TontoKowalski1 | October 15, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I'll clarify-- he deserved a good whoopin'. Yes, sad that he died-- but, had that brick killed someone inside, what would the posts look like? I go, and will continue to go to DC9--- its one of the better places to hang out with friends on weekends. Throwing a brick because you got tossed from a bar wasn't smart, and yeah, maybe the people who allegedly beat him shouldn't have-- but then again, look at the time of night, the fact that he was drunk, and the alleged group that beat him (I seriously doubt Staff were involved) probably had a few drinks too. Did they mean to hit him that hard? Probably not. But, before Jim Graham or anyone jumps to conclusions, let the facts come out. It may well be that patrons tackled him, and most likely staff tried to intervene-- which is what I think happened, but, we'll see when all facts are made public.

Posted by: Aimhigh2000 | October 15, 2010 1:37 PM | Report abuse

I'll clarify-- he deserved a good whoopin'. Yes, sad that he died-- but, had that brick killed someone inside, what would the posts look like? I go, and will continue to go to DC9--- its one of the better places to hang out with friends on weekends. Throwing a brick because you got tossed from a bar wasn't smart, and yeah, maybe the people who allegedly beat him shouldn't have-- but then again, look at the time of night, the fact that he was drunk, and the alleged group that beat him (I seriously doubt Staff were involved) probably had a few drinks too. Did they mean to hit him that hard? Probably not. But, before Jim Graham or anyone jumps to conclusions, let the facts come out. It may well be that patrons tackled him, and most likely staff tried to intervene-- which is what I think happened, but, we'll see when all facts are made public.

Posted by: Aimhigh2000 | October 15, 2010 1:38 PM | Report abuse

nice quote here from the idiot bar manager:

DC9 manager KT Robeson says that the victim was not beaten, but merely restrained. "Whatever he died from had to do with something pre-existing," Robeson says. "He was not beaten, that is a lie." Another DC9 employee told ABC 7 a similar tale, saying DC9 employees were holding down the man, waited for police to arrive, and watched police put him into the back of a cop car.

Gee KT. How did blood get all over the street then?


Posted by: slim4 | October 15, 2010 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so now the owner and four employees have been charged-- it wasn't patrons. I will retract my previous statements in regards to patronizing DC9 as Chief Lanier has said she is closing the club down today.

Posted by: Aimhigh2000 | October 15, 2010 1:42 PM | Report abuse

Being in t he club world for years, things were done right and and obviously soemthign was done very wrong.... According to the councilman's note, they did the right thing of removing this intoxicated individual not once, but twice... the minute he threw the brick (or two as alledged), they should have subdued him adn called the police. AS a door guy and employee, your job is occupy and maintain business professionalism, REGARDLESS !!!! you dont chase a guy down a full block, then proceed to put the beat down... I am almost certain that they did not beat him with fists... I can almost say with certainty that they kicked him in the head repeatedly because honestly, that is what people do today (they punk out and refuse to fight like a man and pack mentality is what happens). Did the brick thrower deserve to die, no but what he did was not better.. call it Karma or an unfortunate incident but now there are no winners here. Lives are ruined because of this. At worst, your looking at 2nd degree murder becaue they intended harm but not intended to kill this person. I think the 96 hour shutdown is warranted here because that is protocol. I am very sorry that this happened.

Posted by: rvanags | October 15, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

"Aimhigh2000"--

When you aim at the "Submit" button, try clicking just the once.

Posted by: FedUpInMoCo | October 15, 2010 2:01 PM | Report abuse

To NotARacist:
Having a punk show at DC9 is not an inherent celebration of criminal activity. I am not condoning murder as 'fun', but punk shows are considered fun by some people … BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

Nor am I making an excuse for murder in saying that DC is a destination city. What I am saying is that you live DC, a big metropolitan city, you will encounter people who are not like you and who have different interests/activities/ beliefs etc. Don’t promote the closing of all clubs like DC9, its idiotic and inconsiderate to do so.

Do people attend punk shows with criminal backgrounds? Yes. Does that mean they are absolutely likely commit murder? No. Clubs like this should not be closed because of this murder. It is not an indicative reflection of all venues that feature punk shows.

I didn’t call you a racist; your username and the nature of your comments imply that the people who attended the show are somehow socially deviant bigots, which is obviously not the case. You want to reduce crime by promoting gentrification…this is disturbing. Are people with criminal backgrounds included in your plan for promoting success and safety? I guess not since you would never hire them or support their right to attend or host a show.

The people who killed this man should be punished. The family of the victim should obtain justice and reparations for what they have lost. Perhaps DC9 should shut down for this incident, but to imply that all venues similar to DC9 automatically incur and celebrate criminal activity is, again, ignorant.

Posted by: 123abc1 | October 15, 2010 2:23 PM | Report abuse

I think the blood is from when he was taken to the ground. He was drunk and took a hard fall. He may have come too in the cop car and pissed of the cops and they finied him off!the owner maybe is 115 lbs and couldnt hurt a fly.he has been in this bussiness so long and is to profetional to do anything like this and or have his empoyies do or act in such a way! maybe a passer by got involed as well and kicked or punched him and fleed. I believe in the people that work there and know Bill always is looking to build his empire not do stupid things like this to harm what he lives for...

Posted by: toney_baloney_stewart | October 15, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

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