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Posted at 7:50 AM ET, 04/27/2010

Md. mom may face deportation

By Washington Post editors

A 26-year-old Maryland mother of three children is at the center of a deportation fight that is being used to highlight a new law enforcement tool critics claim is being misused to target illegal immigrants, Fox 5 reports.

Florinda Fabiola Lorenzo-DeSimilian was arrested at her home last Tuesday for allegedly selling $2 phone cards without a license, a misdemeanor. Her fingerprints were taken when she was booked into the Prince George's County Correctional Center. Those prints were sent to the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The FBI forwarded them to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). There was a hit. Sources say ICE had placed a hold order on Lorenzo-DeSimilian in 2004 for overstaying her visa. She was released from jail last Friday pending a deportation hearing.

On Monday night, CASA of Maryland staged a protest outside the Prince George's County jail. About 60 members of the county's Latino community are calling attention to Lorenzo-DeSimilian’s case. They're blaming correctional officials for sending her fingerprints to the FBI, Fox 5 reports.

Prince George's County is taking part in a new U.S. Homeland Security program called Secure Communities targeting violent criminals. Police officials say it has nothing to do with enforcing federal immigration laws but acknowledge people charged with misdemeanor crimes will sometimes have their fingerprints sent to the FBI.

By Washington Post editors  | April 27, 2010; 7:50 AM ET
 
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I don't get it, if you are not legal you should be deported. This individual was doing something illegal and the CASA Group is saying ignore it.

Ship her back, along with the other illegals. Cheap labor is not worth it.

Posted by: Special_One40 | April 27, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

Hmm...let's see. Arrested for selling phone cards without a license, right? Fingerprints were run through FBI. No problem with that. We find out she has overstayed her visa. BUH-BYE. End of story. The U.S. is being punked big time by these folks. I'm tired of hearing sob stories about these "poor people trying to have a better life". Go home and make YOUR country better. Especially when you come to our country (and my county) and commit crimes.

Law-abiding, taxpaying citizen of the U.S. and grateful P.G. resident.

Posted by: klmarshall_md | April 27, 2010 8:26 AM | Report abuse

So if she had been from the Middle East and had ties to a terrorist organization evryone would say look, the system works. You can't have it both ways. Ship her back home!

Posted by: gpl2411 | April 27, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

Woo-woo-woo, send her packing.

Posted by: walonika | April 27, 2010 8:48 AM | Report abuse

I'm so sick of the argument that deportation breaks up families.

Mothers and fathers commit crimes every day and we send them to prison where they are separated from their children.

How is this any different? You broke the law. Hit the bricks, sister.

I'm sure your native country will be just as accomodating to you and your kids as MD taxpayers have been.

Posted by: Hk45 | April 27, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

CASA needs to be deported...

Posted by: ceebee2 | April 27, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

This sanctuary #*^&@!*% has got to stop.

Posted by: FedUpInMoCo | April 27, 2010 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Prince George's County is taking part in a new U.S. Homeland Security program called Secure Communities targeting violent criminals. Police officials say it has nothing to do with enforcing federal immigration laws but acknowledge people charged with misdemeanor crimes will sometimes have their fingerprints sent to the FBI.
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First of all, she wasn't doing anything but selling phone cards which when I last checked wasn't a "violent crime". And they say that "sometimes" when you are charged with a misdemeanor crime your fingerprints will be sent to the F.B.I., well I think if her name was Jane White, they wouldn't have sent have fingerprints to the F.B.I.

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | April 27, 2010 10:03 AM | Report abuse

Regardless of how anyone feels about illegal sales of phone cards, the fact is that she is here illegally. She can avoid the "family break up" by taking her kids with her when she is deported.

Posted by: postisarag | April 27, 2010 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Send her packing with her CHILDREN AND HUSBAND, if he is undocumented. DON'T LEAVE THE CHILDREN HERE TO BURDEN SOMEONE ELSE. It doesn't matter what country they are from, the laws apply to all, not just a select few. Our own citizens that were born and raised in this country are struggling. We don't need someone else to burden a system that is suppose to benefit our OWN. Come here legally, learn our language, pay your taxes, and BE A LAW ABIDING CITIZEN. Would her county allow an American to just live there indefinitely. I DON'T THINK SO.

Posted by: pbell2 | April 27, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm sure plenty of you that comment on this page grandmother or grandfathers were not originally from here, so supposed someone told your ancestors to "pack there kids up and leave", 70% of you all wouldn't be able to comment on here today if that happened. Think about it....

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | April 27, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

"supposed someone told your ancestors to "pack there kids up and leave", 70% of you all wouldn't be able to comment on here -"

well, PublicEnemy, there's quite a difference between this woman (who has *ignored* an order of deportation for SIX YEARS) and my forebears. The most striking difference is that my grands were decent and law-abiding people who would, more likely than not, turn themselves in to the authorities if they were suspected of wrong-doing.

Not only was this woman *caught* in a misdemeanor, she had been evading the authorities for YEARS. High time they caught her and tossed her out on her keister. And she can take brats and her crime-abetting husband with her.

Posted by: WilyArmadilla | April 27, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

PublicEnemy1: In response to your post...even though my family has been in the US since before the Civil War days, I do think, if an immigrant ancestor flaunted the laws and got caught perpetrating a criminal act, they should very well be sent home. It's like going to a club...if you go to a club, and you pick a fight, you're going to get bounced. Act right, and you'll get to stay and have fun. That's all the citizens of the country want. Immigrants are free to come as they please, they just have to fill out the paperwork, and act like productive members of the society. When they don't, they need to go.

Posted by: akchild | April 27, 2010 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Why does it take selling a phone card to send her home? Arizona sets what a law-abiding state should be. Only a legal residents should be in the US. If any of citizens of the any country want to come here then fill out the paper works and wait for you turn. That is the legal way to come to the US. I sponsored one of my family member in France, and we have been waiting for 10 years for approval, unlike these freaking South American cross the border illegally and make demand for citizenship.

Which part of this law the Hispanics don't understand? May be the CASA people can't read. Press 2 for Spanish.

Posted by: drkly | April 27, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

if she overstayed her welcome by 6 years, and I.C.E. scheduled her for a DEPORTATION hearing, then tell us WHY was she released from jail, until the hearing? You think she will return to her home in P.G. county, until the hearing date? My bet is she will disappear & it will take I.C.E. another 6 years (and possible 3 more kids) to find her again.

Also, since she is ILLEGAL, the rules of a speedy & just trial should not apply. She doesnt get, or shouldnt get the same justice afforded US LEGAL citizens.

How many more ILLEGAL residents of PG County & Maryland are remaining? Just drive thru Langley Park, or Kenilworth Ave, south of Riverdale Rd & you will see how many remain.

Lets band together & also get an Arizona law for the region.

Posted by: Robbnitafl | April 27, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Fine I agree - send her and hers packing.

However, I notice that many of you asked why she was let go pending a hearing--

SIMPLE you all don't want to pay the taxes that are required to KEEP HER AND THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS Of other detained until they are sent packing.
YOU CAN "T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS EITHER.
Pay up to keep them locked up or shut up

Posted by: racerdoc | April 27, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

You can't tell me that this woman didn't decided to have three kids as insurance so that if she were caught "again" she could claim "oh, my babies, I can't leave them, they're US citizens." "You're breaking up my family." Well, she can always take them with her. What bothers me about this issue of illegal immigration is the way people try to justify their illegal actions by saying "oh, it's only this" or "it's only that." These "onlys" then add up to become major crimes. We continue to travel down that slippery slope to where no matter what crime a person commits (in the name of illegal immigation) they didn't do anything wrong.

As a US citizen I can't disobey the law then tell the judge "oh, you're racist," or "your Honor, I didn't steal her purse, I only borrowed her money with no intention to pay it back." No other group in the US gets away with more stuff in the name of their own selfishness. Other people pay large sums of money and wait years to become legal citizens, but illegals come across the border (or by plane on student or visitor visas with no intention of returning), cry some tears and the US government cracks. Next thing you know you've got another person on welfare and another kid in class who can't speak English.

And what bothers me even more is that their US citizen family members and others assist them in their illegal actions. As citizens, where is their loyality to the US? I guess it depends on how many more family members they have to smuggle into the country? What will these people do if they ever become legal citizens. Will they commit other more serious crimes and try to justify them as well. When does this end, when do we as a nation put our foot down and say enough, no more. Why aren't eight amnesties enough? Why should we allow 11 million people who have given us their ass to kiss - why should we allow them to stay? No matter if they are a benefit or a detriment to the society. Why is that more important than obeying the law in a country where the rule of law is supposed to be paramount?

She sure knows how to play the system. She should have been detained and deported when ICE had the chance. Now we have yet another sob story to contend with. And we know the Post loves these things. They are making a journalist killing on these stories. I don't know how many more papers they sell when they write yet another one (ad naseum) but they always have the reverse effect on me. If you're in the country illegally, especially in the case of this woman who had an order to deport, you should be deported, period. In essence, she told the US government twice to go to hell! She's feels she's above the law and shouldn't have to obey it. Now we should show her that no, she isn't and yes, she does.

Posted by: soulshadow55 | April 27, 2010 12:53 PM | Report abuse

SHIP THIS WOMAN AND HER FAMILY out ot this country. Let her raise her kids in her own country.

Posted by: pink1 | April 27, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

SHIP THIS WOMAN AND HER FAMILY out ot this country. Let her raise her kids in her own country.

Posted by: pink1 | April 27, 2010 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"...used to highlight a new law enforcement tool critics claim is being misused to target illegal immigrants"


Isn't that what these laws are about? Isn't that why we have ICE, and boarder crossings, and INS? I don't get it.

Posted by: 123cartoon | April 27, 2010 1:02 PM | Report abuse

CASA complaint is that the mother is about to be deported. She is here illegally AND she was committing a crime. Maybe they missed that crime part.

It really doesn't matter what the crime was, she was wrong and she knew she was wrong, she broke the law - silly on her part considering that if she wanted to stay here she should have been a productive citizen.

Here's my thing, I don't mind illegal immigrants as long as they ARE productive law-abiding (illegal issue withstanding) citizens. What prompts laws like the Arizona one are the ones that are here illegally and then are criminals - which is a slap in our face - they think our country is so great they will show up and rob and kill us all while CASA protects them.

I am all for their children being educated, last thing we need is another illiterate adult - but that requires them to abide by the laws and get the necessary health requirements and be responsible to assist their children with learning.

Yes their lives will be harder than the average American born here but that is the choice THEY are making by being illegal.

If we the law abiding - tax paying, voting citizens are getting a vote, I say Bon Voyage and if it means taking her husband and children with her, sayonara . . . . . .

Posted by: leladteal | April 27, 2010 1:09 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand why this is even news. Is it supposed to bring a tear to our eye?
She's been sucking the system for over six years and now it's time to go. That's money we'll never get back, money taken from a legal citizen in need, money taken from our pockets. If you read the crime reports, most of the criminals have hispanic names. Why does this country tolerate that? If you go to the Langley Park and Riverdale areas and made a sweep, it would look like a ghost town. It's time we took our county, state, and country back. I realize it isn't just hispanics who are here illegally - gather them ALL up! I have NO sympathy for ANY of their sob stories. Makes me sick.

Posted by: donnabee1 | April 27, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: leladteal
"Here's my thing, I don't mind illegal immigrants as long as they ARE productive law-abiding (illegal issue withstanding) citizens."

Ummm.... Illegals are "citizens"... Yep, okaaay...

===

"Lets band together & also get an Arizona law for the region."

Hmmm... Last time I checked, liberal Democrats have a stranglehold in much of this area.

Posted by: FedUpInMoCo | April 27, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

If PG county started enforcing law by the book half of PG county people will be in Jail or any other county for that matter. I dont know how selling trinkets or phone cards to feed three little kids makes her violent criminal to qualify for Secure Communities program which is just for viloent criminals. We can not blame others for illegally entering our country when we have entered other countries like Iraq and Afghanistan where hundered of thousands have been killed due to our presence and hundered's are dying everyday and there are no signs that we are leaving. But if a poor little hispanic lady is raising her little kids we manipulate law and use violent criminal provision on her in order to deport her. If this is not double standard or prejudcie I dont know what is.

Posted by: Jim110 | April 27, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

SUre while I agree she must go -- ARE ANY OF YOU GOING TO COUGH UP EXTRA tax dollars to pay for her stay in a government detention facility awaiting deportation.

Thought not. It will take money to kick these people out BUT NONE OF YOU WANT TO PAY.

Posted by: racerdoc | April 27, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

I'll pay for her to go. Let's see the estimate to detain each illegal, multiply that cost by 12 million and then divide by 140 million for a one time "Illegal Immigrant Clean-up Tax" to be spread across one year. Funding problem solved.
By crossing that border, they are infringing upon the sovereignty of our country and breaking our laws; while I don't agree with racial profiling (Arizona), I do want to see them leave.

Posted by: hegemon4ever@yahoo.com | April 27, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Let's see.

1. This purportedly innocent woman gained access to the U.S. under false pretenses and violated the terms of her Visa.
2. ICE has had a detainer out for her for the last 6 years.
3. She was arrested for allegedly violating the criminal laws of the state.
4. Regardless of whether she is ever tried for that crime, much less convicted, her status warrants her deportation.
4. ICE now seeks her deportation.

So what, pray tell, is the problem with that? What is the problem with the enforcement of applicable law? I just don't get it.

I will submit there is, however, still a significant problem here; and that is the organization that protesteth so much the enforcement of law, CASA of Maryland, is largely funded WITH OUR STATE AND LOCAL TAX DOLLARS!

Now THAT'S a problem.

Well, here's one: CASA of Maryland is funded

Posted by: LAWPOOL | April 27, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

hegemon4ever--

Just make sure you tax the illegal aliens' employers for their share in creating this mess.

Posted by: FedUpInMoCo | April 27, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

So I am confused what is the issue here? She is illegal overstayed her visa and popped out 3 kids in 6 years. She needs to be deported she can take her kids if she wants and they can return to America if they choose to.

Posted by: cleancut77 | April 27, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

To deport this person is a no-brainer. We've gotten to the point where no one obeys the law and when people like this break the law, the excuses, rationales and explainations come forth. It's a joke. Do you think other countries would allow you to break their laws and remain free, roaming around their country? Illegals have learned to game the system and we are all paying for it. Give her the boot and stop making excuses for those here illegally.

Posted by: cricket35 | April 27, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Wow feel the hatred and evil thoughts in this blog. Face it you are all Bigots. It doesn't matter what you say nothing will justify our humanity if we continue to create borders. This is how America was built, if you still remember or know your history. England sent all ther deceased and criminals to America. Their own citizens deported. It is our weakness for evil temptations that make us blind of the truth

Posted by: immigrant1 | April 27, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Immigrant1,
But our forefathers came to this country, respected the laws & came here thru LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

If your here ILLEGALLY, your breaking the law. . what part of ILLEGAL, to you not understand???

Posted by: Robbnitafl | April 27, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

Immigrant1,
But our forefathers came to this country, respected the laws & came here thru LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

If your here ILLEGALLY, your breaking the law. . what part of ILLEGAL, to you not understand???

Posted by: Robbnitafl | April 27, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I say, use FedEx-- I mean, when you positively must be deported overnight----

Posted by: Aimhigh2000 | April 27, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

She's in the country illegally... doing illegal things, right? Pack her and her kids up and send them back to wherever she came from. At the same time, investigate CASA, since they're funded by tax dollars.

Why are tax dollars being spent on CASA? They help illegal immigrants find under-the-table jobs.

Maybe ICE should spot-check the protesters?

Posted by: mwstevenson | April 27, 2010 5:47 PM | Report abuse

everyone keeps using the point of "illegality" yet does something being illegal make it a just law? If you were making the point that someone is here illegally and therefor IS a criminal and should be deported, fine. I disagree but that is your right. However, if you automatically tie hispanic names, number of children, assumptions of welfare etc. to her with this story...you are nothing but a bigot. There was a time when every escaped slave could have been accused of breaking the laws of this country and not being a "productive" citizen....but the fact that she was selling something, (who ever got hurt from a phone card?) tells me she was trying to be productive!

Posted by: imjustsayin2 | April 27, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Finally, Prince George's is active in this fight. We have enough problems to solve without adding illegal immigrants to the mix. I'm still p*ssed about Casa setting up shop in Langley Park.

Posted by: pgres | April 28, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

imjustsayin2: I don't know where you live, but you can invite them all to your county to live. Okay? And please don't compare illegals to slavery. One has nothing to do with the other.

Posted by: pgres | April 28, 2010 10:24 AM | Report abuse

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