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Posted at 8:22 PM ET, 02/19/2011

Man dies in Md. police shooting

By Martin Weil and Clarence WIlliams

Update, 8:42 p.m.
A man armed with an icepick was shot fatally by a Montgomery County police officer during a confrontation Saturday evening in downtown Silver Spring, a county police spokeswoman said.

The shooting occurred about 5:15 p.m. outside the City Place Mall on Colesville Road near Georgia Avenue, said police spokeswoman Lucille Baur.

The officer was patrolling in a car when he came upon a dispute between two men. One of them yelled that the other was armed with a knife, Baur said. The officer ordered the man to drop the knife, and came between him and the other man, Baur said.

The officer "put himself in harm's way," Baur said. The man "refused to drop" his weapon and the officer fired, she said.

The man was pronounced dead at the scene. He was not identified immediately. No age was given.

Baur said the man's weapon"was recovered and was determined to be an icepick." It was not clear how or whether the man was holding the icepick when he was confronted. But the officer "knew he was armed," Baur said.

The nature of the dispute between the two men could not be learned. Baur said that investigators believed that it began inside the mall and continued on the street outside. It was not known if the two knew each other.

A section of Colesville road was closed down while police investigated.

Update: The man wounded in the shooting has died.

Earlier: One person was severely wounded Saturday evening in downtown Silver Spring in a confrontation with police, authorities and witnesses said.

The incident occurred about 5:30 p.m. on Colesville Road, a block or two north of Georgia Avenue.
County police said the site was the location of "an officer involved shooting."

Initial reports from witnesses indicated that a confrontation occurred in the roadway.

The street was shut down while an investigation proceeded.

By Martin Weil and Clarence WIlliams  | February 19, 2011; 8:22 PM ET
 
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Hmm, this account of this incident is totally at odds with the accounts now posted on Fox and other news sites.

Posted by: MikeinDC5 | February 19, 2011 8:09 PM | Report abuse

The ice(pick)man cometh...

But seriously, who brings an icepick to a mall on a Saturday night? All of the ice/snow is pretty much gone, too.

Posted by: FedUpInMoCo | February 19, 2011 10:31 PM | Report abuse

The police are drawing the line in the wrong place. They say that since a man was holding an ice pick, the officer who confronted him was in harm's way, and he was justified to shoot the man when the man did not immediately drop the ice pick as the officer ordered.

An officer is not in imminent danger, such as would justify his use of deadly force, just because a person is holding an ice pick, nor even if the person refuses an order to drop the ice pick. The officer is only in imminent danger if the person shows aggression, such as by raising the ice pick.

I'm tired of reading about cops killing people with impunity, and justifying it on the flimsiest pretexts. Worst of all is the pretext that the person did not obey fast enough. Cops need to be trained to calm dangerous confrontations, not just shoot people who are too wound up to obey immediately.

Posted by: pundito | February 20, 2011 1:09 PM | Report abuse

Simple, ignore the commands, get shot.

Posted by: curiousGeorge4 | February 20, 2011 3:39 PM | Report abuse

The police put a wicked spin on their shootings. My 25 year-old son was there; he had just walked out of the Silver Spring movie theatres and saw this man running; the police running on his trail, then my son said the police outright shot this man twice. I asked my son did he see a gun or anything in this man's hands before the police officer shot him and he said no. I asked this because I wanted to know whether the police officer was in imminent threat harm.

My son said the bystanders,now witnesses, began to cry. Police cruisers ran to the scene and positioned their cruisers around this man lying in the street so that his body was concealed. My son said the ambulance arrived, stood by talking to the cops, not administering any medical aid to the man lying on the street. My son took this to mean the man was DEAD. The police began to order the bystanders to disperse, instead of to take their statements, as police normally do at the scene of a crime (supposedly this man committed a crime and was shot dead because of it).

Was this a justified homicide or murder again by the hands of a police officer?!! I want the answers!!! I want the truth!!!

Posted by: concernedcitizen52 | February 20, 2011 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Police gun: 1
Ice Pick: 0

Posted by: PublicEnemy1 | February 21, 2011 9:25 AM | Report abuse

Ice Pick Slim has gone to the upper room.

Posted by: Raidersfan2 | February 21, 2011 10:07 AM | Report abuse

An individual brandishing a weapon needs to drop it when the cops appear. An ice pick could blind or otherwise severely injure the victim.
With all the $ we spend on defense contractor and homeland security, you would think there is a better non-lethal way to stop a violet person. But we don't have it yet. If an armed individual is raging out of control, the police need to stop him or her. That officer was alone. Wy don't officers partol in teams anymore? Two people would have a better chance of taking someone down. Why wasn't the icepick-brandisher person given mental health treatment and taught better impulse control way before this happened? Stop blaming the police for a society that is hurtling toward a Third World existence. The wealthy can move into gated communitites. Law abiding non-rich folks are left to fend for themselves, and fend off the violent.

Posted by: catbird500 | February 21, 2011 10:39 AM | Report abuse

What I find most amusing is, if this shooting happens in Prince George's County, we are given the color or the suspect and officer. In addition, we are then provided with details of the suspect, his background, his contributions to society, etc.

Here, why don't we get the same info? You will break your neck to go after PGPD, why not MCPD?

Posted by: taocpa | February 21, 2011 6:21 PM | Report abuse

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