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Posted at 10:00 AM ET, 09/16/2010

What's in store for Michelle Rhee?

By Washington Post editors

As soon as it became clear that D.C. voters had rejected incumbent Mayor Adrian Fenty in favor of D.C. Council Chairman Vincent Gray, the talk of the town turned to someone not on Tuesday's primary ballot: D.C. Schools Chancellor Michelle Rhee. Because Rhee's effort to reform D.C. schools has been so closely tied to the Fenty administration, and because the controversial chancellor has clashed with Gray, speculation is rampant about whether Rhee will stay or go. Under what terms would she stay? And if she leaves, where would she go?

Below is a snapshot of the debate as it has been playing out on The Post's Web site. But we also want to hear from you:

What do you think Gray's win means for Rhee? Should she stay or should she go? Tell us what you think in the comments below, or Tweet us your response with #whataboutRhee.

COLBERT KING

Opinion columnist

There are a few... in the Fenty administration who should be asked to stick around.... School Chancellor Michelle Rhee could have been one of them. But, unfortunately, she took that decision out of Gray's hands when she decided last week to work publicly for his defeat in the mayor's race. Having told Gray by her action where she stands on him, she has no reason to think that he, as mayor and her future boss, would expect her to stand with him now. She should do the honorable thing and tender her resignation, leaving it to Gray to decide, after an open exchange of views with her on educational reform issues, whether he wants her to stay.

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ROBERT MCCARTNEY
Metro columnist

[Gray] ought to try to have her stay....keeping her would be the right thing to do for the city, its students, education reform, and Gray and Rhee themselves. Here's why:

First, Gray campaigned on a promise to build "One City." The theme was designed partly to signal to African American voters that Gray would take blacks' interests and views into account... But if he's going to pull the city together, then Gray needs to reach out quickly to the Rhee supporters, most of whom are white, who opposed him. The fastest way to do that is to make clear he's open to leaving her as chancellor.

For her part, Rhee must stay if she is to go down in history as one of the greatest urban school chiefs in history. If she leaves now, for whatever reason, she'll be dogged by questions for the rest of her career over whether her work here was spectacular (as her acolytes believe) or overrated (as skeptics assert).

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VALERIE STRAUSS
Education blogger

For the sake of the school community, it would be best for [Gray and Rhee] to get over themselves and figure out now whether they can reach a compromise. That would be a good ending.

But if they can't work together -- and it's a decent bet that they can't given their very different views of how a schools chief should operate -- Gray should move quickly to replace Rhee.

Leaving her as chancellor during a long search, with Rhee keeping one eye on the door, is unacceptable. Nobody with half a heart in a job is going to perform very well.

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JAY MATTHEWS
Education columnist

Gray now has to pick a new chancellor.

[Former D.C. Council member Kevin] Chavous would be great, but I suspect he doesn't want to submit himself to such a meat-grinder of a job. I like the idea of inviting back Cliff Janey, who had some success as the head of D.C. schools before Fenty replaced him with Rhee. Janey is available because he was just told that his contract in Newark will not be renewed.

Janey is part of what I call the Education Justice League, or the Super Supers, a collection of energetic, innovative school district superheroes who make good changes as superintendents and then, invariably, run afoul of local politics and don't get their contracts renewed...

The most available of the Super Supers at the moment is Rudy Crew, whose last job was Miami, and who has also run the schools in New York City and a few other important places. I knew him long before he became a Super Super, when he coached my son's soccer team in Pasadena, Calif. He is very smart, with a delightful, if somewhat acidic, sense of humor, which he will need if he comes to D.C.

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RAYMOND COLEMAN
A reader from Rockville

Rhee should be retained as D.C. schools chancellor.

She has effectively tackled the issues of infrastructure and school supplies, made headway in the evaluation, retention and compensation of qualified teachers, and has stabilized enrollment. For the first time in decades, parents have been given reason to hope that the schools will come through for their children.

That she inserted herself into the Democratic primary campaign may have been impolitic, but D.C. Council Chairman Vincent C. Gray's ambivalence about her tenure only injects instability into a system that does not need uncertainty.

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What do you think Gray's win means for Rhee? Should she stay or should she go? Tell us what you think in the comments below, or Tweet us your response with #whataboutRhee.

By Washington Post editors  | September 16, 2010; 10:00 AM ET
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This isn't about if Gray wants Rhee; It's about if Rhee wants Gray. Rhee has opportunities to go just about anywhere she wants. She doesn't "need" to stay in DC. Look at the BIG picture here. Do you think anyone even knows who Gray is nationally? No one. A lot of education reformers know who Rhee is and she will have a lot of opportunities elsewhere.

Lets hope Gray tries to keep Rhee. If not, you may see a mass exodus of students coming out of the school districts and a mass exodus of residents fleeing to Arlington and Bethesda.

Lastly, I hope you are kidding about Janey returning. There is a reason his contract wasn't renewed in Newark, NJ. He doesn't belong in DC, and if he were offered the job, Gray would show that he truly is an idiot.

Posted by: DCMoney1 | September 16, 2010 10:27 AM | Report abuse

Unless Gray can convice Michelle Rhee that he will have her back the way Fenty does- she should take her talents to a city where the people love their children enough to make hard choices and shake up the system for the children. Grey and his people are apologists- "I am so sorry that you are poor and that your childrens' schools are so bad, I hope thet we can make them better"- hope does nothing unless is it backed by action. This means ruffling feathers- it means telling people who are incompetent and who have been allowed to wallow in a union-protected system, that they are incompetent and they are being replaced by someone who will get results- for the children. If I were Michelle- unless I get that in writing from Gray so that it could be published- I would go where I will be allowed to succeed.

Posted by: poppysue85 | September 16, 2010 10:33 AM | Report abuse

History Can Rhee-peat Itself !

Three words for the presumptive Mayor Vincent C. Gray to remember ...

General Douglas MacArthur

On April 5th, 1951, Representative Joseph William Martin, Jr., the Republican leader in the House of Representatives, revealed a letter from MacArthur critical of President Truman's limited-war strategy, providing copies of it to the press and reading it aloud on the floor of the House.

The letter concluded with:

"It seems strangely difficult for some to realize that here in Asia is where the Communist conspirators have elected to make their play for global conquest, and that we have joined the issue thus raised on the battlefield; that here we fight Europe’s war with arms while the diplomats there still fight it with words; that if we lose the war to communism in Asia the fall of Europe is inevitable, win it and Europe most probably would avoid war and yet preserve freedom. As you pointed out, we must win. There is no substitute for victory."

General MacArthur was relieved of his command by President Truman five days later...

Chairman Gray was a third grader in DCPS at the time.

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And just in case anyone is wondering, EUROPE IS STILL FREE ...
and almost all of their PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE DOING JUST FINE.

Posted by: AGAAIA | September 16, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

History Can Rhee-peat Itself !

Three words for the presumptive Mayor Vincent C. Gray to remember ...

General Douglas MacArthur

On April 5th, 1951, Representative Joseph William Martin, Jr., the Republican leader in the House of Representatives, revealed a letter from MacArthur critical of President Truman's limited-war strategy, providing copies of it to the press and reading it aloud on the floor of the House.

The letter concluded with:

"It seems strangely difficult for some to realize that here in Asia is where the Communist conspirators have elected to make their play for global conquest, and that we have joined the issue thus raised on the battlefield; that here we fight Europe’s war with arms while the diplomats there still fight it with words; that if we lose the war to communism in Asia the fall of Europe is inevitable, win it and Europe most probably would avoid war and yet preserve freedom. As you pointed out, we must win. There is no substitute for victory."

General MacArthur was relieved of his command by President Truman five days later...

Chairman Gray was a third grader in DCPS at the time.

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And just in case anyone is wondering, EUROPE IS STILL FREE ...
and almost all of their PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEMS ARE DOING JUST FINE.

Posted by: AGAAIA | September 16, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

If Rhee waits for Gray to fire her, she is crazy (unless her contract guarantees a big payoff if fired). She should tell Gray to "take this job an shove it." DC does not deserve her. If DC wants to continue to have underperforming schools, poorly educated kids, and continuing lack of opportunity for their children so be it. Turning around DC schools is not a job for weaklings. It takes someone with the strength and determination of a Michelle Rhee to get results. DC=losers!

Posted by: cdierd1944 | September 16, 2010 11:39 AM | Report abuse

Chancellor Rhee idea of support is being not held accountable to anyone but the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Walton Family Foundation and the Broad Foundation who are funding and promoting her model of educational reform. She feels that she is above the answering to the voters of DC.

Posted by: khathu | September 16, 2010 12:37 PM | Report abuse

It would be great if Chancellor Rhee would stay and finish the job she has started so well. But I doubt the new mayor will want to keep her around. He will be more interested in serving his patrons in the teacher's unions than doing anything for the children of DC who are once again condemned to a life of illiteracy through no fault of their own.

Posted by: w_schulz1 | September 16, 2010 1:34 PM | Report abuse

I hope other communities take a hard look at her so-called accomplishments. Her stats don't hold up to scrutiny.

I hope they look at her divisivenss, dishonesty (lying about teachers abusing students, lying about finances in order to fire teachers), and her lack of teaching experience (3 years with Teach for America).

There are many good models for school reform, and they don't involve firing people near retirement or firing principals of schools that are doing very well.

Good riddance to that arrogant person.

Posted by: cococo | September 16, 2010 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Rhee -- not Fenty or Gray -- started the debate about whether she would stay or go. Rhee needs to end the debate now, rather than dragging it out for several months -- when the debate is already a HUGE distraction from making progress for the kids enrolled in D.C. Public Schools.

I'm guessing that she's just doing her best right now to promote her soon-to-be-released movie appearance. So, she certainly would want this debate to drag on. Who cares about D.C.'s kids, right? It's all about Michelle Rhee and her career.

Posted by: Kathy8 | September 16, 2010 1:51 PM | Report abuse

Rhee must go!!!!!!!! There is no way Gray can keep this lose cannon in his administration. She has not been elected to anything in D.C. yet she is giving press interviews all over the country. The school system is bigger than one person. If she truly has made real change to the school sytem, it will be there when she is gone. It was Rhee who said that she could not work for Gray. The citizens of the District of Columbia have spoken. I wish people would stop threatening to leave D.C. or the school system if she does not stay because no one really gives a damn.

Posted by: kevltrlaw | September 16, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Montgomery County is looking for a new school superintendent. Why not Rhee? It would be a veritable vacation for her.

Look, even my mother the pro-union school teacher says Rhee is the best thing to happen to DC schools. The DC schools are top heavy in administrative employees (a patronage employment legacy), and the DC teachers union keeps people in teaching positions who shouldn't be there. Gray would be smart to keep Rhee and let her be the bad cop to his good cop while DC finally gets a decent school system. By letting Rhee go, Gray will only enable the people who are the root of the problems with the DC schools. But maybe that's what he was elected to do. Sometimes I think DC would rather be a mess than well run. Years of re-electing Marion Barry atest to that. There are things that make moving to DC very attractive. But then I look at the politics and the dysfunctional reputations of its government agencies and I shudder.

Posted by: cassandra9 | September 16, 2010 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, DC is likely to replace Michelle Rhee with someone more interested in maintaining the status quo than upgrading DC's public education. The losers will be DC's children.

Posted by: elena4 | September 16, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Uh, hate to state the obvious, but isn't she probably going to move to Sacramento? Just throwing that out there.

It would explain a lot of her actions in the past two weeks, in my opinion.

Posted by: PaLun | September 16, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Rhee will leave. I echo other commentators here, Gray does not get to make a decision here. She is on a national platform for education. WE (as in DC residents) were very lucky to have her here, despite her unpopularity among middle/lower income residents. I am sure you will land well darling it was fun having you here to piss off the incompetent, unchecked, system reliant, jerks that care only about there on welfare and no one else. Good riddance to all those who expired during the fenty-rhee reign may you find a new city to project your lazy ways on.

Posted by: Agostino1 | September 16, 2010 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Rhee said, "Yesterday's election results were devastating, devastating," Well it’s not about YOU chancellor Rhee. By the way, Rhee you never burn your bridges!

If Mayor Gray retains Chancellor Rhee, it would be devastating to his administration. Chancellor Rhee and Mayor Fenty were held accountable for their arrogant and condescending behavior toward the people of District of Columbia. Chancellor Rhee is incompetent and she end up as one the most polarizing figures in our city. She had no vision, just a narrow goal of improving test scores. Rhee’s legacy will be known for firing, threatening and intimidating principals, teachers and staff members. Rhee never had a plan evidenced by only 10 schools meeting the national standards. The people have spoken and this Rhee experiment is over. Rhee must be fired!

Posted by: hello101 | September 16, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Rhee was not qualified for the job in the first place and Fenty was paying her over $300,000 a year to do little. then she shot off her mouth about gray's primary win being a disaster for the district. She is gone. For those speculating where she will go, or those thinking she can go anywhere, please put down the crack pipe. She is marrying Kevin Johnson, former Phoenix Sun basketball player and current Mayor of Oakland. It probably would be a good guess that she is moving to Oakland. Why did you morons not know this is my question.

Posted by: hoyalawya96 | September 16, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Rhee was not qualified for the job in the first place and Fenty was paying her over $300,000 a year to do little. then she shot off her mouth about gray's primary win being a disaster for the district. She is gone. For those speculating where she will go, or those thinking she can go anywhere, please put down the crack pipe. She is marrying Kevin Johnson, former Phoenix Sun basketball player and current Mayor of Oakland. It probably would be a good guess that she is moving to Oakland. Why did you morons not know this is my question.

Posted by: hoyalawya96 | September 16, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

hoyalawya96 is mostly correct: Kevin Johnson is the mayor of Sacramento and Michelle Rhee is likely on her way to California. She had a lot to gain from a Fenty victory, and little to lose from a Gray victory.

It's hard to lead the city's education system under a regime (abetted by WP journalists like Colbert King and Courtland Milloy) who literally accused Rhee of ethnic cleansing. That's not an environment conducive to a good working relationship.

If Fenty wasn't black enough to be mayor of DC, Rhee certainly isn't black enough to be School Chancellor. That platform may help Gray get elected, but it will eventually destroy this city.

Posted by: diehardlib | September 16, 2010 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Rhee is an arrogant heartless brat and she fired a lot of teachers without any regard. She should get a taste of her own medicine. her talents are over rated.

Posted by: tahirn | September 16, 2010 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Most comments toward Michelle Rhee here are negative and nasty and perhaps a concerted effort by the teachers union. If she has made so many teachers and bureaucrats angry she must be doing a good job. Today I read profiles of her in Time and Newsweek magazines and look forward to seeing her in the film "Waiting for Superman". The teacher contract she negotiated are a great way to reward the best teachers while taking away tenure from the worst ones. Ms. Rhee has had courage to stand up to hostile parents and defend teachers who have suffered violence and indignity in the classroom. My kids are in school out in Bethesda where it's safe and civilized. Thank goodness for that. If fear what will happen in D.C. if Michelle Rhee leaves and the forces of darkness come back. All of you teachers should be required to read George Orwell's "A Clergyman's Daughter"--it explains how one idealistic young teacher's hopes are dashed when she is crushed by the status quo. That could have been Michelle if she crawled into the fetal position after suffering the trauma of teaching in inner city Baltimore early in her career. Instead she stiffened her spine and prevailed. Michelle Rhee might be a heartless sociopath but shes's OUR heartless sociopath and we need someone with a heavy hand to ride shotgun over the herd to protect the kids from the incompetency of the system.

Posted by: werowe1 | September 16, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Most comments toward Michelle Rhee here are negative and nasty and perhaps a concerted effort by the teachers union. If she has made so many teachers and bureaucrats angry she must be doing a good job. Today I read profiles of her in Time and Newsweek magazines and look forward to seeing her in the film "Waiting for Superman". The teacher contract she negotiated are a great way to reward the best teachers while taking away tenure from the worst ones. Ms. Rhee has had courage to stand up to hostile parents and defend teachers who have suffered violence and indignity in the classroom. My kids are in school out in Bethesda where it's safe and civilized. Thank goodness for that. If fear what will happen in D.C. if Michelle Rhee leaves and the forces of darkness come back. All of you teachers should be required to read George Orwell's "A Clergyman's Daughter"--it explains how one idealistic young teacher's hopes are dashed when she is crushed by the status quo. That could have been Michelle if she crawled into the fetal position after suffering the trauma of teaching in inner city Baltimore early in her career. Instead she stiffened her spine and prevailed. Michelle Rhee might be a heartless sociopath but shes's OUR heartless sociopath and we need someone with a heavy hand to ride shotgun over the herd to protect the kids from the incompetency of the system.

Posted by: werowe1 | September 16, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't live in Washington. But, what I find fascinating about this discussion is that it all seems to revolve around personalities. I would not completely reject the concept that the superintendent of schools could make a big difference. But, in my years of going to school, working a little in the world of academic science, and mostly for a big business, I have never seen anyone that far up the bureaucracy make much of a difference. Maybe Michele is an exception. But, I would be more impressed if the discussion centered around specific uncompleted actions that were important to the school system's future rather than all the talk about presonalities and political conflict. My experience is that the managers who major in politics never have the time to understand enough about the real job to get it done.

Posted by: dnjake | September 16, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Gray is a turd in the punchbowl of life. Rhee was the best thing to happen to DC schools since the invention of the abacus.

Posted by: redroomfotog | September 16, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Do we need her badly in San Diego ... our education system is in shambles. Come out West Michele!

Posted by: sarno | September 16, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Rhee got her overrated fame. Now...scam!!! Scat!! GTFO!!!

She's a consultant folks. Nothing more....she just happens to be Asian; something we haven't seen before, and folks think that means she has created the "Suzuki Method" or something. It's amazing how much credit a person can get for firing Black professionals. I mean...the chick fires Black folks and ends up on the cover of TIME magazine as courageous? What did white folks expect...The Watts Riots?

smh...smh....the denial about racism is incredible. If Gray keeps Rhee it will be a shame. She must go....the healing must start fresh. She must go.

Posted by: kentonsmith | September 16, 2010 5:03 PM | Report abuse

My esteem for Mr. Gray would increase one hundred fold if he fired Michele Rhee. Tomorrow.

Posted by: flamingliberal | September 16, 2010 5:31 PM | Report abuse

LOL you gotta be kidding. Gray essentially ran *against* her.

You don't look up one day, decide to run for Mayor against an incumbent, campaign against him on the basis that he is a poor people-person, rip his administrative decisions but *not* his policies, and then retain his staff. That's idiocy.

Of course Gray will probably try to steal Fenty's cake, eat it and have it too. If Rhee has any sense she will realize the numerous pitfalls that await her as a result of such a change in management. Her track record was a series of wins until Fenty lost. Now the whole thing is tainted. By working with Gray she would implicitly admit that.

Posted by: tokenwhitemale | September 16, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"Unfortunately, DC is likely to replace Michelle Rhee with someone more interested in maintaining the status quo than upgrading DC's public education. The losers will be DC's children."

LOL which "status-quo". The pre-Fenty "status-quo" or the Fenty one.

This is going to be fun. If they try to hold base it will be an admission that maybe Fenty wasn't so bad after all and that Gray will be happy to ride on his coattails. If they change, there's the 800 pound elephant of Gray trying to appease everyone at once, or accomplishing nothing & losing control of the whole process, resulting in anarchy and a return to the Barry years.

It's going to become pretty clear that people voted against Fenty because they had nothing to lose if he lost and no way to even hold onto what they had if he stayed.

Posted by: tokenwhitemale | September 16, 2010 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I'm always amazed at these commenters who think one person can fix the public schools. Or shallow thinking demagogues like Ms. Rhee who foolishly think firing teachers and principals will change a public school system.

There is no greater mirror of our society than the public schools. The urban school systems across the nation teach mostly minority students and few white students, mostly poor students and few wealthy students, most of whom don't want to be there.

Fixing the public schools demands fixing society. It demands addressing the problems of single parenthood and the grinding poverty which keeps increasing. It demands fixing a lack of respect for life and for the rights of others. It demands the instilling of respect for others and for learning that is absent in our society. It demands a sense of self discipline which Americans have long since lost.

How can the public schools be expected to work with malleable intelligent material that society does not give them?

Posted by: flamingliberal | September 16, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

...if you cared about your kids, your career or your house you voted for Fenty; if you care about your welfare-check or your unionized job, you voted for Gray. Cut and dry.

Posted by: tokenwhitemale | September 16, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

I saw Ms. Rhee's interview this morning on ABC's Good Morning America and she still does not get it. She took full responsibility for Fenty losing the election, but she has no remorse. Her ego is so large that she believes that she has all of the answers. Mr. Gray should do for her what she did for so many of the innocent teachers that she fired - show her the door and tell her to leave her keys on her desk along with the keys of all of the 25 year old inexperienced executives that she hired on her management team. The teachers in D.C. are still waiting for her to tell them what is the proper way to educate a child, and she gives them no answers. All she does is bash them as being incompetent. Her tenure has been nothing short of a disaster! She turned over the lowest performing high schools (Anacostia, Coolidge, Dunbar) to private management, because she had no clue about how to fix them or interest in fixing them herself. She spends too much time trying to get national media attention as a school reformer, but there is no reform or results in the schools. For all of the Rhee supporters who are publicly stating that they believe that Mayor Gray should keep her, I would like to know the name of the D.C. Public School that their child attends (most of them attend private schools!). The schools are in no better shape educationally than when she got here, and all of the people who are drinking her kool-aid need to stop and get real. While she is a bright woman, until she learns to respect others and show some interpersonal skills, she will never be an effective leader for D.C. She would like all of you to believe that she is the only person in America that cares about D.C.'s school children - I say give me a break from the hollow rhetoric. Finally, she has adamantly refused to meet with the City Council when asked, so why should they entertain keeping her now? Maybe one of the private foundations can hire her to run an educational think tank, and there her arrogance will be hidden from the public eye.

Posted by: joepala1 | September 16, 2010 6:09 PM | Report abuse

If the people of DC wanted to retain Rhee, they would voted for Fenty.

I think it is important to get Rhee out, so that Bill Gates influence is decreased in DC.

Posted by: educationlover54 | September 16, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Michelle Rhee may be the big winner in Tuesday's election. Why?

Right now she is riding high. During her watch, student's proficiency in math and reading improved from the mid 20's to the low 40's. That is an impressive achievement unmatched by any big city school system over so short a time. Other struggling school systems have taken notice.

However, due to her combative nature and other failings, these successes will dim in the future, probably the near future. This decline would have occurred with or without Mayor Fenty. The teacher's union would have seen to that, even if no other forces had intervened. But with a Gray victory, Rhee can blame it all on someone else because she will be long gone. Gone to another job where she can write her own ticket, probably $500,000 a year and up.

Posted by: jeffy2345 | September 16, 2010 6:45 PM | Report abuse

Ms. Rhee should go somewhere where her talents and reults are appreciated. Let's face it, she is of wrong race and ethnicity to ever be accepted by DC residents. It will never happen.

Posted by: gen_coz | September 16, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

He should bring back Janney? Who was fired twice?

I assume that an adult who uses "LOL" went to the old DC public schools

Posted by: nmoses | September 16, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

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You know I'd be careful about promiscuous use of that word "moron," even if I was one of those thousands of folks with a JD degree. Folks who pay minimal attention will know that Rhee's fiancee Kevin Johnson is the mayor of California's State Capitol -- Sacramento --- not Oakland, which is over an hour away.

Posted by: prosecutor1 | September 16, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Oh please. Michelle Rhee made it impossible for Gray to keep her (assuming he wants her, which he doesn't). She'll be wife to Sacramento's mayor and a resident Californian soon enough.

In DC politics, she's virtually radioactive.

Posted by: Samson151 | September 16, 2010 7:50 PM | Report abuse

There are two issues at hand. The first is Rhee's competency at her job. The other is her as an employee. She is a public servant who has clearly shown that she wants to pick and choose for whom she serves, which is not the public. She's out -- and the decision should be Gray's without question. Why wait for her? If she's competent, she'll find another position. Can she only work in a place where she can do as she pleases? Well, sounds like a dream job...but more to the point, selfishness and an inability to work with others who may have a different opinion. And she's an educator?

Posted by: expatinjapan | September 16, 2010 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Rhee has got to GO - wish she could take the racists with her.

She has no experience, and no concern about our children. It's me, me, me for Rhee.

Gray - FIRE HER DISREPECTFUL, CRUEL, NARCISSISTIC ASS NOW!!!

Our children deserve SO MUCH BETTER.

Posted by: bringbacktheconstitution | September 16, 2010 8:35 PM | Report abuse

We shouldn't worry about what's in story for Michelle Rhee as much as we should worry about what's in store for DC schools.

Prognosis Negative...

Posted by: alarico | September 16, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

...if you cared about your kids, your career or your house you voted for Fenty; if you care about your welfare-check or your unionized job, you voted for Gray. Cut and dry.

Posted by: tokenwhitemale | September 16, 2010 5:51 PM | Report abuse

The redeeming tenet of democracy is even racist idiots get to voicwe their opinion. As a parent opf s successful DCPS student, the most important occiurrence in the education arena in the last 3 -4 years is the investment in revitalizing and construction of new schools. The Master Plan to facilitate development was set in place by Clifford Janney with the city finally committing to funding the program. The deal to renovate School Without Walls was done about 5 years ago. Most of my daughters teachers have sugnificant tenure in the schools and were in place long bfore Michelle Rhee even thought about education.

Her lack of professionalism and poor character sets a bad example for children and the DCPS administration. The reality is that she was more hype than subnstance and her accomplishments was built on a house of cards i.e. teaching to the test, having multiple practice tests, suspemding all exrtracirricular activities during the month of the DC BAS test to up scores. The reality is the scores actually improved under the Janney administration and leveled off significantlky last year.

I hope she either resigns or is not retained by Mr Gray.

Posted by: NewManagement | September 16, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

I very much want to support Rhee if someone can tell me in tangible terms exactly what it is she has done to improve DC schools. I hear a lot of hype of her majesty but in all these debates I have yet to see any hard results. If I suppose firing a couple hundred teachers proves you are a great administrator then I get it. When I think of greatness I think of personal stories of children's accomplishments. I have yet to hear one such anecdote.

Posted by: luvleep | September 16, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

I very much want to support Rhee if someone can tell me in tangible terms exactly what it is she has done to improve DC schools. I hear a lot of hype of her majesty but in all these debates I have yet to see any hard results. If I suppose firing a couple hundred teachers proves you are a great administrator then I get it. When I think of greatness I think of personal stories of children's accomplishments. I have yet to hear one such anecdote. And seriously, is Rhee the only person out there who can run a school system effectively? I seriously doubt that.

Posted by: luvleep | September 16, 2010 10:12 PM | Report abuse

All women need to remember that making nice is the only way to behave...a man can get away with kicking behinds, but women can't and should not even try!

Posted by: judithclaire1939 | September 16, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

One person for the follow up to Rhee... Weast.

He's done the job, he's maintain the relationships with his employees and the community. He is the one of the most successful school chiefs, not a "might be".

Posted by: Dpete1 | September 16, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

tokenwhitemale wrote:
...if you cared about your kids, your career or your house you voted for Fenty; if you care about your welfare-check or your unionized job, you voted for Gray. Cut and dry.

Gee, I think I see your robe peeking out beneath your street clothes. I care deeply about my home (a house is not a home); my career and the kids of DC.

Never voted for Marion Barry and never voted for Adrian Fenty. These highly touted "results" are disputable. The school system has been frought with one controversy or another for 3-4 decades. Fenty comes in, makes promises that he (nor Rhee) can deliver for reform.

Many different schools of thought on education reform exist, besides the type that Rhee espouses. It seems the tactics employed by Rhee proved to be an abject failure in Chattanooga. If this is true, why should DCPS follow that same path?

She should resign -- posthaste. Let the search for her replacement begin. She and Fenty ought to acknowledge their failure on this front and stop trying to sell us a bill of goods.

Posted by: sheridaw | September 16, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Gray can't fire her now; he isn't mayor yet.

But Fenty could.

Posted by: efavorite | September 16, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Living in a school district where:

a) the new supt. had a rocky start some years ago when first hired
b) the school board made it clear that "communication with the public " was the weakest point in the school supt's job performance
c) in recent years we have had turnaround schools thanks in part to the actions taken by the supt. WITHOUT a big publicity binge,

it seems to me that Rhee is learning that actions have consequences.

It is possible to improve the quality of schools without a national media blitz of "I'm right, you're wrong, so just shut up and believe in my ideas because I know more than the local community residents".

If Rhee
a) doesn't understand that
b) campaigned for Fenty

then Rhee should find work elsewhere because she did not measure up.

After all, isn't that what Rhee said to school staff ?

Posted by: GHDEL | September 16, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

If I were Rhee I would add DC's improvement in SAT scores to my resume and post it on Monster.com post haste.

I wouldn't mind having her in PG Country at all.

Let's be racist for a moment. Asians SAT scores are 6% better than whites and their GPA's are as well. Why wouldn't "poor blacks" in SE/SW want for an Asian to show them the way to better achievement?

Stupid is as stupid does.

Posted by: ProfessorWrightBSU | September 16, 2010 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Rhee is way overrated. No one person is indispensable. Her remarks about the school system being "devastated" because Gray is the mayor is as insulting as her boy Fenty dissing Maya Angelou and Dorothy Height. The both of them think way too highly of themselves, and neither one of them is all that. I know Gray is too smart to keep her around. Good riddance to the both of them.

Posted by: jhnsnrt | September 17, 2010 12:18 AM | Report abuse

Adrian Fenty hired Michelle Rhee and Michelle Rhee cost Fenty the Democratic Primary for Mayor. I voted for Fenty the first time around, and I voted against him this time mainly because of Michelle Rhee's treatment of D.C. public school teachers. When I voted for Vincent Gray, I knew that my vote was cast against Adrian Fenty for hiring Michelle Rhee and cast for Gray because he would give her the boot.

I expect Vincent Gray to make nice, but he should not allow Michelle Rhee to sabotage his first term as Mayor. She sunk Fenty. All of the phony hype about Rhee aside, Vincent Gray should ease her out and move on with life.

Posted by: DCSage | September 17, 2010 12:21 AM | Report abuse

Rhee said, "Yesterday's election results were devastating, devastating," Well it’s not about YOU chancellor Rhee. By the way, Rhee you never burn your bridges!

If Mayor Gray retains Chancellor Rhee, it would be devastating to his administration. Chancellor Rhee and Mayor Fenty were held accountable for their arrogant and condescending behavior toward the people of District of Columbia. Chancellor Rhee is incompetent and she end up as one the most polarizing figures in our city. She had no vision, just a narrow goal of improving test scores. Rhee’s legacy will be known for firing, threatening and intimidating principals, teachers and staff members. Rhee never had a plan evidenced by only 10 schools meeting the national standards. The people have spoken and this Rhee experiment is over.

Washington Examiner said….Number of D.C. Schools Meeting National Standards PLUNGES!

It’s time for Michelle Rhee and Mayor Fenty’s experiment on DCPS to end:

1. 8 out of 87 DCPS elementary schools met their DC CAS AYP targets

2. 2 out of 34 middle and high schools met their DC CAS AYP targets

Over the past 3 years the number of DCPS Schools NOT meeting their DC CAS National Targets has increased since Mayor Fenty hired school Chancellor, Michelle Rhee.

Rhee continues to recruit unqualified (TFA’s) and un-credentialed folks to teach and run our schools (New Leaders). The above facts speak for themselves.

DCPS SCHOOLS JUST OPEN and Chancellor Rhee is on VACATION…Rhee must be fired!

Posted by: hello101 | September 17, 2010 7:29 AM | Report abuse

Another thing. You don't see folks in California begging her to come there do you. They are not going to stereotype her as some educational pioneer just because she's Asian. The demographics and mindset is entirely different out there. What other major city is screaming we need Rhee?

She's a fraud folks. A Quack!!

There are plenty of qualified Black professional who could prosper in Washington's new Mayor controlled school system. Folks have to remember what Vince Gray points out. She is the first person to have such range and freedom so of course she going to be a "first" in many categories. Not a big deal. The next Chancellor will be able to do the same things. This one will probably concentrate on education and not impressing folks on Wisconsin Ave. Rhee should go into politics. Fraud!!

Posted by: kentonsmith | September 17, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

The big poll on Rhee took place on Tuesday, and DC and the children of DC lost. I wish New York could look globally at the whole school system for all of it's kids the way she did for the district, instead of publicizing a few charter schools as the solution, leaving the vast majority behind. Another metropolitan system would be lucky to have her.

Posted by: concernednewyorker1 | September 17, 2010 11:49 AM | Report abuse

All of this proves how much some citizens like to see white faces in charge. You have a high school in Anacostia where 80% of the teachers are white. All those contractors are doing is getting paid like fat cats!!! What a fraud Rhee is...what a racist thief we have in Fenty.

People shout racism when Blacks hate on Rhee but, in actuality the people in support of Rhee think she's doing a great job just because she has replace experience Black teachers with new young rookie white teachers. Don't you think that's racist? Loving Rhee because she chooses White teachers over Black teachers? Isn't that more racist?

Posted by: kentonsmith | September 17, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

kentonsmith,

Arne Duncan fired a lot of black and hispanic teachers in Chicago. That's because he closed down a lot of black and hispanic schools. I don't though know if he replaced the minority teachers with white teachers.

Duncan caused a lot of problems in the Chicago Public Schools. But he had a powerful mayor with a long history to protect him as he did his damage.

Duncan used untested education methods to experiment on minority children. His experiment, Renissance 2010 is deemed to be failing.

Rhee was to some extent trying to copy Duncan's methods, which is probably why Duncan was so interested in her.

I think both Duncan and Rhee should have taken different approaches to schools with low test scores. Schools with low test scores are in high stress neighborhoods. As a result the children are more stressed out and come to school in a high level of anxiety. As a result they don't pay as much attention in school and thus do worse on test scores. As a result "reformers" like Rhee and Duncan would fire the teachers and either close the schools or turn them into charter schools or just fire the teachers. For the most part, this method of school reform failed in Chicago. Why Obama made someone secretary of education who pursued a policy that ended up firing minority teachers and turning minority children into lab rats for untested educational "reforms" I don't know. But now Obama and Duncan want to do the same damage to the whole country that Duncan did to Chicago.

Rhee was probably trying to follow in Duncan's footsteps, which was "disastrous". I use her term to describe what Duncan did to CPS.

Posted by: educationlover54 | September 19, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

kentonsmith,

I am white. I have always minorities should have equal rights and opportunities, but I hate to say this - I never did anything about it.

Now I see a president who is half minority pursuing the policies of Arne Duncan, which had a devastating effect on the minority communities in Chicago. I can't believe it. I never thought having a minority president would end up hurting the minority educational estabishments - but it is.

And Rhee is very much supported by Duncan and probably Obama.

Posted by: educationlover54 | September 19, 2010 8:53 AM | Report abuse

The Rhee supporters have produced nothing to justify their faith in Rhee other than anecdotal rhetoric.
She fire teachers, she stood up to the union, she does it for the children! Good grief, you are like sheep!
As one poster put it, those managers who major in politics never get the job done because they haven't put the time in to master the job.
Rhee is misplaced as an executive. She should be a manager. Her total lack of political skills has doomed her achieving any success here. To say nothing of the fact that her pursuits were ALL a fiction of her imagination, not supported by data. Yes, she really is the the "chainsaw Al" of the education movement. Bad news for anyone wanting an education.

Posted by: zebra22 | September 20, 2010 9:07 AM | Report abuse

Stop being stupid! We all want our chidren to excell in school. White folk get a life. Rhee has done nothing worth reflicating but hide her real agenda and it has nothing to do with bettering our schools or the educational welfare of the children. Just like Palin no real solutions just a lot of negative actions.
Why is that the new recruits come from sources that both she and her X husband are directly affiliated with to the tune $2.500 for each new recruit and you don't think teachers with good ratings should not be upset when they are let go. The more the parents are envolved in their children's academic experiences the better the schoool. It takes a village.Public school works in those villages.

Posted by: frankiesimmons1 | September 22, 2010 1:38 AM | Report abuse

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