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Game 2 lineups: Phils and Rockies

Charlie Manuel gets to managing. The Rockies are sending out a second stragiht lefty, but the Phillies manager sends out an overhauled lineup. Shrewd move, or a bit of panic? He just said he did it because Werth is "a more patient hitter" than Victorino. Also more likely to hit a homer here.

Philadelphia:
Jimmy Rollins -- 6
Chase Utley -- 4 (coming off only second 4 K game of his career)
Pat Burrell -- 7 (RH hitter breaks up two of the best LH hitters in the league)
Ryan Howard -- 3 (add three strikeouts from yesterday to regular season total, and you get 202)
Aaron Rowand -- 8
Jayson Werth -- 9
Wes Helms -- 5
Carlos Ruiz -- 2
Kyle Kendrick -- 1

The only players hitting in the same spot in the order as yesterday are Rollins, Howard, Rowand and Ruiz.

Colorado:
Kaz Matsui -- 4
Troy Tulowitzki -- 6
Matt Holliday -- 7
Todd Helton -- 3
Garrett Atkins -- 5
Brad Hawpe -- 9
Ryan Spilborghs -- 8
Yorvit Torrealba -- 2
Franklin Morales -- 1


One more thing: Forgot to mention yesterday that USA Baseball announced its 24-man roster for the 2007 World Cup next month in Taipei. It's made up of Class AA and AAA players, and right-hander Chris Booker of the Columbus Clippers, the Nationals' top farm team, is on it. He's the only Washington representative.

By Barry Svrluga  |  October 4, 2007; 11:50 AM ET
 
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Comments

Look alive, Sheinin. You're falling behind.

Posted by: NatsNut | October 4, 2007 12:00 PM | Report abuse

Easy on Sheinin. He's traveling this morning. I am not.

Posted by: Barry Svrluga | October 4, 2007 12:02 PM | Report abuse

hoping rowand will hit 5th and start in center for that team in washington next year. he'd be a true fan favorite, the way he plays the game hard.

Posted by: hoagie | October 4, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Barry, that means you'll surely have to keep up the NJ even after the postseason's over... to keep up with the exploits of our own Chris Booker. We've seen him briefly before in the bigs - any chance that Bowden and the farm crew share USA Baseball's opinion on his chance of competing for us at a high level?

Posted by: faNATic | October 4, 2007 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Shrewd move. He's just shuffling a little. Werth plays regularly and Victorino is a light hitter for RF. Doesn't look like he benched any strong-performing starters or anything, just putting in guys who play a lot. Seems reasonably normal.

Be careful criticizing Manuel Barry, you'll get called down to his office to settle things!

Posted by: mlwagnercpa | October 4, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Burrell had a good game yesterday. Seems like a sensible move in a best out five series.

Posted by: lowcountrynatsfan | October 4, 2007 12:10 PM | Report abuse

Hot-stove Phillies lineup:

Utley - 4
Burrell - 7
Howard - 3
Rowand - 8
Victorino - 9
Rollins - 6
Ruiz - 2
Nunez - 5
Kendrick - 1

Posted by: Hendo | October 4, 2007 12:13 PM | Report abuse

Slightly OT, but for those of y'all who winced at the sight of Cubs or Phillies or Mets fans at RFK this past season, a little quote from the NYT:

"The rally energized the crowd of 48,864 at Chase Field. Mostly clad in red shirts and waving white pompoms, they vastly outnumbered and outcheered Cub fans, who usually have a strong presence here. The Cubs have held spring training in Arizona since 1967, first in Scottsdale and now in Mesa."

Posted by: Juan-John | October 4, 2007 12:19 PM | Report abuse

Too bad they're not televising the Baseball World Cup.

Posted by: Juan-John | October 4, 2007 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of managing, does voting for Manager of the Year take the postseason into account or just the regular season?

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 4, 2007 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Juan-John, I also heard on the telecast where they were so concerned about the Cub fan presence that if the Cub fans started a "let's go cub" cheer, they were going to put up a counter-cheer on the scoreboard ("beat the cubs" or something like that) to drown them out.

Something to keep in mind for the folks running the new ballpark, so we can keep the philliots in line next year.

Posted by: joebleux | October 4, 2007 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Let's choke Mets!

Posted by: proposed anti-Mets chant | October 4, 2007 12:42 PM | Report abuse

On Sunday the jumbo video at CBP showed the scene from "Animal House" (IIRC) where they throw tomatoes at this nerd on a screen.

It then flashed to a Nationals fan. That got the crowd har-harring, but then they were in a pretty giddy mood while Glavine was getting shelled at Shea.

I'm glad they didn't show that video on Saturday, when the Phillies had more at stake.

Posted by: Hendo | October 4, 2007 12:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't know whether Charlie's lineup moves are the product of fear or wisdom. But I do know that it must be tough hitting anyone who throws hard at that time of day. That start time, with the moving sun and falling shadows, is just terrible. If they had to schedule a day game, I'm sure that the hitters would have preferred a 1pm start.

Posted by: blueson | October 4, 2007 1:03 PM | Report abuse

I hope that you were not the Nats fan they panned, Hendo.

Posted by: lowcountrynatsfan | October 4, 2007 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Manager of the Year: Voting is done by the end of the season. All of those awards -- MVP, Cy Young, etc. -- include only the regular season. Ballots are already in.

Posted by: Barry Svrluga | October 4, 2007 2:22 PM | Report abuse

ESPN speculates on Glavine and the Nats:

"National interest?

It remains to be seen if Tom Glavine will play another season. But one person close to Glavine told ESPN.com's Jerry Crasnick that the pitcher's poor performance against Florida on Sunday makes it more likely that he'll pitch again in 2008, because he doesn't want to go out on such a bad note.

The question is, where? Glavine has a $13 million player option with the Mets, and could decline to exercise it to either retire or become a free agent.

One potential suitor is the Nationals. Team president Stan Kasten is close to Glavine from their days together in Atlanta. And the Nationals could use a veteran starter to anchor their young staff as the team moves into a new ballpark. Glavine is also likely to require only a one-year commitment, which could make him more appealing to Washington ownership."

Posted by: Bob L. Head | October 4, 2007 2:37 PM | Report abuse

"And the Nationals could use a veteran starter to anchor their young staff as the team moves into a new ballpark. Glavine is also likely to require only a one-year commitment, which could make him more appealing to Washington ownership."

A better choice than Glavine would be Livan Hernandez. He can still pitch at least as well as Glavine, has a history with the Nationals in addition to a history with Kasten (although obviously not as long with Kasten as Glavine does), and provided no one digs up his birth certificate to prove otherwise, he's nine years younger than Glavine.

Think having Livo on the mound wouldn't put just a few more fannies in the seats for Opening Day 2008, not to mention the rest of the season?

Posted by: Section 419 | October 4, 2007 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Barry.

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Manager of the Year: Voting is done by the end of the season. All of those awards -- MVP, Cy Young, etc. -- include only the regular season. Ballots are already in.

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 4, 2007 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I'm on record as being generally supportive of the Livo acquisition, if only to have him go 10-10 in 200 innings and thereby ensure that the Nats do not set a record of two consecutive seasons with no starter winning or losing 10 games.

Nationals Farm Authority has some interesting (disturbing?) news about our minor league managers:

"The Nationals will be looking for at least two new managers for their minor league system as both Harrisburg manager Scott Little and Hagerstown manager Tom Herr have opted not to return to the organization in 2008. Little expressed frustration with his standing within the organization while Herr believed he was a better fit for managing at the Double-A level (the Nationals did not agree). The Senators (55-86) and Suns (55-81) finished with the two worst records among the Nationals affiliates in the US (the DSL Nationals 2 were 25-39). It is rumored that Potomac manager Randy Knorr is the favorite to take over in Harrisburg. No word on the status of the other managers or any other coaching decisions. It will be important to watch these developments. While the Nationals have received alot of positive press about their recent draft classes, it is equally as important that they have the PD system in place to actually develop players for the future. Constantly reshuffling of personnel is not something you want to see."

Barry, any sense on whether there was airspace between these guys and Kasten et al? Is this a surprise?

Posted by: Bob L. Head | October 4, 2007 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Attaboy, Troy! Attaboy, Matt!

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 4, 2007 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Geez, that park is ridiculous.

Posted by: JennX | October 4, 2007 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Upon further review, the news on Tommy Herr (yes that Tommy Herr, solid 2b for the Redbirds in the 1980s) is a bit dated (even though it just appeared on the farm website). Herr, manager of low Class A Hagerstown, just signed on in December and managed his first season with the Suns. He evidently demanded to be moved up to AA Harrisburg (leapfrogging high-A Potomac), and the Nats said no. Evidently his goal is to become a coach in the majors; perhaps he was hoping that the Nationals would be a quick way up and when that didn't prove true, both sides walked away. In this case anyway, this does not appear to be evidence of any organizational malaise.

Posted by: Bob L. Head | October 4, 2007 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Dave's got a new post up.

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 4, 2007 3:39 PM | Report abuse

One hopes that at least part of the Little and Herr departures is accounted for by the evolution of the Nationals' organizational culture, which is profoundly different under Kasten / Bowden / Acta than it was under Tavares / Minaya / Robinson.

There just couldn't be that many guys who could be visibly successful in both cultures; Randy St. Claire is the only one who springs to my mind, and more credit to him for that.

Comes a time to move on. Speaking of which, I'd be giving Rob Fick a look for one of these vacancies, or a similar one in future seasons.

Posted by: Hendo | October 4, 2007 3:40 PM | Report abuse

http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071004&content_id=2249499&vkey=news_col&fext=.jsp&c_id=col

Posted by: In case you needed a reason to root for the Rockies... | October 4, 2007 4:08 PM | Report abuse

personally, unless there was a significant difference in their respective salaries (and there very well might be), i'd rather have glavine on the team next year than livo if there was any interest on the part of management in adding a veteran starter. he may be older but his numbers were better across the board this year, in every category, than livo's. moreover, i think he'd be a better guy to have in the clubhouse as well -- no drama, no noise. and finally, i like the idea of glavine being around to work with, or at least be watched by, the young left handed pitchers in the organization. i wouldn't break the bank to sign him, and honestly, there may be no interest on his part in going anywhere other than ny or atlanta. but if he thinks he can still pitch, and demonstrates as much in the spring, i wouldn't mind seeing them offer him a one year contract. what's the worst thing that could happen?

Posted by: blueson | October 4, 2007 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Wa-hoooo! Grand slam, Matsui

Posted by: one of Barry's Babes | October 4, 2007 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Wooooooooooo! When Smith stepped up I said Seth's gonna speak and Kaz is going deep. Yeaaaaaah!

Saw Jamey in the dugout on the Hot Corner cam. Go Rocks! Go Jamey!!

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 4, 2007 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow, that just makes me love 'em all!

http://colorado.rockies.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071004&content_id=2249499&vkey=news_col&fext=.jsp&c_id=col

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 4, 2007 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Is this Jose Mesa dude actually Jorge Julio in disguise?

Posted by: Just wondering | October 4, 2007 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Phoolish Phans are now throwing bottles onto the field and booing. Classy!

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 4, 2007 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Kaz Matsui = 2B, HR, 3B after top of 6th

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 4, 2007 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Barry has a new post up

Posted by: one of Barry's Babes | October 4, 2007 5:28 PM | Report abuse

So does Dave.

Posted by: NatsNut | October 4, 2007 5:36 PM | Report abuse

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