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Cuts are official: Detwiler, Smoker and Bacsik

A bit of interesting tweaks with the cuts. Yes, last year's first-round pick, lefty Ross Detwiler, was sent to minor league camp, as was lefty Josh Smoker and veteran lefty Mike Bacsik. But right-hander Adam Carr, one of the better pitchers in the minor league system last year, was added to major league camp, as was shortstop Ian Desmond -- who has played a few games up here already because they have needed extra bodies for split-squad games.

The others who were reassigned to minor league camp: infielder William Bergolla, outfielder Roger Bernadina, right-handed pitcher Tristan Crawford, infielder Yurendell De Caster, outfielder Frank Diaz, left-handed pitcher Mike Hinckley, catcher Devin Ivany, left-handed pitcher Charlie Manning, outfielder Tommy Murphy, outfielder Jorge Padilla, infielder Antonio Perez, right-handed pitcher Ismael Ramirez and right-handed pitcher Jim Ed Warden to minor-league camp.

Will get more on all this from Manny Acta in a while.

By Barry Svrluga  |  March 5, 2008; 10:14 AM ET
 
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nothing surprising there.

Posted by: 231 | March 5, 2008 10:28 AM | Report abuse

Barry -- how "normal" is it to bring a couple players up the major squad while demoting others?

Posted by: e | March 5, 2008 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Agree w/ 231.

Also, I assume that Bacsik will end up in Columbus, to be called up, if needed. He is not really a prospect, but with ML experience makes a good 11th or 12th man, when the dings of June/July happen.

Posted by: Catcher50 | March 5, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

What are the chances we ever see Mike Bacsik start another game for Washington beyond this next season (I'm not even sold he'll get a call-up this season)?

Posted by: Corey | March 5, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

[Bacsik] is not really a prospect, but with ML experience makes a good 900th or 901st man, when the dings of June/July 2056 happen

Posted by: Fixed | March 5, 2008 10:43 AM | Report abuse

chances of bascik are slim, i think. maybe as a long-reliever, at best.

Posted by: 231 | March 5, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Ian Desmond is the most overrated player in our entire system.

All because of 3 plays in Spring Training of 2005.

Posted by: MrMadison | March 5, 2008 11:08 AM | Report abuse

Mike Bacsik would be an excellent addition to the MASN broadcasts. I hope he gets another year or two in the majors and in the Nats organization, but when he is done, one of his job offers should be from MASN.

Desmond's promotion is no doubt temporary. But it's a nice vote of confidence for a kid who was hyped to early in 05 and is just now approaching real opportunity. I imagine he will be considered if the Nats have a mid-year injury in the infield this year.

Carr is the real treat here. I like Rivera and Shroeder, but Carr could steal a job from one of them this year. And once he show's he can get out major league hitters consistently, he could threaten for a closers job in 2009/2010.

I'm very curious about the Lopez / Belliard / Guzman / B.Boone competition. The Giants, Reds, and others have to be interested. Are there scouts attending the games watching these players?

Posted by: NatBisquit | March 5, 2008 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I'm curious about Devin Ivany. He's 27/28 now, and did very well in the Arizona Fall League. Is there any chance we'll see a future combination of Flores/Ivany? Is this what the team is grooming Ivany for?

Posted by: BigNatsFan | March 5, 2008 11:23 AM | Report abuse

To carry over the dicussion about OD tickets from the last thread:

I'm still not buying the numbers Stan/Nats have given. I expect a gray area in the numbers, just not charcoal gray. The sale yesterday was a Cluster F and the brokers had a field day. If you think the majority of the 4000 OD tickets yesterday went to Joe Fan, your naive. Look at Stub Hub, eBay, etc. for the evidence.

The Nats fumbled this OD ticket thing from the beginning and yesterday was the capper.

All STH (full, half, 20 game) got the shaft on this one. You can't possibly make everyone happy but, the people that are your bread and butter can't be given the shaft. It seems like not much thought went into the process. It the STH holders bought all but the $5 seats, so what. The General Public still gets a shot.

Most of the time it seems the Front Office can't help but step on their own ding ding's when it comes to off the field stuff.

Posted by: Section 505/203 | March 5, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Why is Desmond overrated?

I catch 15-20 P Nats games a year and Desmond looked like a much better player with the bat in 07 vs 06. Much more comfortable at the plate. His defensive range is outstanding and he has a cannon for an arm. Granted, he repeated High A ball but he is still well within the age range of legitimate prospects for that minor league system.

As for scouts at Viera - there is a section right behind home plate (110 I think) where scouts sit. Looked like 25 scouts there for the day game vs the Dodgers.

Posted by: Los Doce Ocho | March 5, 2008 11:30 AM | Report abuse

505/203 - No matter what, there are people who want tickets but won't be able to get them. Its a 41,000 seat stadium in a major metropolitan area. This system was as fair as any other. Season ticket holders got first shot, then general public got the second shot.

You can't discriminate because you think someone's a scalper. Whether tickets are sold at the gate, in a lottery or online some tickets are going to get bought up by brokers, its the nature of a free-market economy.

Posted by: NoVA Nat | March 5, 2008 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Barry, since space is pretty much unlimited on the blog, is it possible to get a couple of perspectives from players who are cut?

I'm interested in what this means for some of the non-mainstream players who don't typically make it to the Wash Post sports page.

Posted by: NatsNut | March 5, 2008 11:38 AM | Report abuse

new post

Posted by: 231 | March 5, 2008 11:44 AM | Report abuse

Enough already about season ticket holders getting the shaft because they didn't get more opening day tickets!!

Time to move on.

Posted by: NatsGal | March 5, 2008 12:04 PM | Report abuse

Barry, others -
Your opinion on this question, if you please:
Will Mike Hinckley EVER make it??!!

Posted by: AJ | March 5, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

"You can't discriminate because you think someone's a scalper. Whether tickets are sold at the gate, in a lottery or online some tickets are going to get bought up by brokers, its the nature of a free-market economy."


Obviously. Heck, even some STH turn into scalpers. Trust me, I'm no Socialist, I'm all for Capitalism. But Stub Hub and the other broker sites are boarderline illegal, selling tickets at 5-10 times the face value. You do that on the streets around the stadium and they will haul you away. It is even illegal in DC to sell for under face value. A cop gave me crap 2 years ago for trying to sell my extra tickets for UNDER face value. Any scalping in DC is illegal.

And the FO's lack of planning played right into the hands of these guys.

Posted by: Section 505/203 | March 5, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

I'm somewhat surprised by Bascik's quick demotion. I kinda figured he'd be more flexible than King to have in the bullpen. King's a 2/3s of an inning kinda situation lefty, totally out of shape and more expensive than Bascik. Bascik can be a spot starter, throw long relief and do the sit-lefty stuff.

Unless they're planning on using Lannan in that role and ditching both King and Bascik.

No other surprises. Detwiler needs to be at AAA, Smoker at AA. I'll be surprised if Hinckley even makes the AA roster. A lot of the rest of them were among the 6-year minor league free agents the nats signed since their existing AAA roster pretty much blew.

Posted by: Sec131 | March 5, 2008 1:01 PM | Report abuse

- Ivany is only 25, not 27-28 - b-day 27 July, his chances of making to the ML are slim, as 25 is old for just having a taste of AA last year.

- most these cuts, nine in all, were non-roster invitees who have never been a part of the Nats org before.

Posted by: VladiHondo | March 5, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

NatsGal,

Make me a Ham sandwich.

Posted by: JayB | March 5, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"Smoker at AA"

Posted by: Doubt it | March 5, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Nats Gal, please don't make him a ham sandwich. Nothing good ever comes from humoring him.

Posted by: JayB's ex-wife | March 5, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm kind of suprised Detwiler was cut.

Posted by: Bob L. Head | March 5, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

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