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Hot dogs and baseball -- and Dmitri Young in the lineup

Tonight, at Historic Space Coast Stadium, it is "Celebration of the Hot Dog" Night.

Hot dogs, of course, are good. In Viera, even better.

Dining guide addition: Goombay's on A1A in Satellite Beach. Haven't been there myself, but comes highly recommended by Bill Gluvna of the Nats' media relations staff. So blame him.

Small news: Dmitri Young is in the lineup for tonight's game against the Marlins as the designated hitter. We were told he would play tonight, but it's a different thing to see it on paper. Young hasn't played in a Grapefruit League game this spring because of a sore left side.

Ryan Zimmerman, however, isn't in the lineup. Zimmerman was removed from Tuesday night's game against the Braves with tightness in his right hip flexor. He downplayed it, and Manny Acta said he would likely rest him again. I'll check in with him when he gets into the clubhouse (he isn't here yet).

Felipe Lopez -- 6
Lastings Milledge --8
Nick Johnson -- 3
Dmitri Young -- DH
Austin Kearns -- 9
Bret Boone -- 4
Aaron Boone -- 5
Alex Escobar -- 7
Jesus Flores -- 2

Oh, and Charlie Slowes and Dave Florida are supposed to be back to broadcast the game on 3WT. They'll be here Friday (for the home game against the Indians) and Saturday (vs. Dodgers) as well.

By Barry Svrluga  |  March 13, 2008; 2:06 PM ET
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Digest from previous thread:

We have the answer...

The lower right ad on the scoreboard is...


(the last sign on the parking garage is just blank)

Posted by: Wigi | March 13, 2008 02:05 PM


I believe that is the "Batters Eye" and I think it is supposed to be green... or at least, some dark color.

(I would be really excited about Coke, except I don't drink it anymore...)

Posted by: Wigi | March 13, 2008 02:14 PM

(I guess that's not really 'digested', is it?)

Posted by: Wigi | March 13, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

From last post:
noop oast

What? nu toast?

Posted by: SF Fan | March 13, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

noop oast = new post

Posted by: Anonymous | March 13, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

John in Mpls-

That stat riff is almost believable to end up on the Baseball Prospectus site. I'm hoping to finish above .500 this season, but I am always really optimistic during Spring Training.

Ilk =

NPA ^1.83
NPA ^1.83 x NPD ^1.83

Posted by: Positively Half St | March 13, 2008 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Both Boone boys, huh?

Bret is definitely getting a large chunk of playing time. I hope he goes on a tear, or really impresses some scouts.

Welcome back Dmitri. I guess perhaps you have to impress some scouts, too.

Posted by: Positively Half St | March 13, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

for what it's worth, 419, you have to remember who the *whole* readership of the post's sports section is. most casual nats fans aren't as interested in an adjustment made by a minor league pitcher in a spring training game who won't likely make the final roster as they are in understanding how the cost of tickets in the new stadium compares to those of other teams. that's baseball esoterica that appeals to those of us who are really into the game and the team, and we're the minority as far as readership goes. that's fodder for the notebook, at best.

"Stopped throwing balls and started throwing strikes, perhaps? But that's just a guess on my part. I wasn't there, there was no radio or TV coverage of the game, and the Post this morning chose to focus on a stadium-by-stadium comparison of ticket prices in various seat categories (can you say apples and oranges?) instead of providing this kind of information to us. But coverage is fine, right?"

Posted by: 231 | March 13, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

"that's fodder for the notebook, at best. "

Then why wasn't it in the notebook? Kind of my point.

Posted by: Section 419+1 | March 13, 2008 2:56 PM | Report abuse

The only problem with MplsJohn's formulation of ilk is that NPA^1.83 in the numerator would cancel out with NPA^1.83 in the denominator.

That means the formula would be "Ilk is simply the inverse of NPD^1.83." We need a different ratio or there should be some other interrelationship between NPA and NPD in the denominator, in order to avoid the tragic result of not counting NPA in some respect.

Posted by: faNATic | March 13, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

Nice to see Alex Escobar in the lineup too.

I don't know what to make of Zim's "injury". I figure it's either really nothing and the media keeps asking anyway; or the team is way, way underplaying it; or he's just super-hyper-duper tough guy and hates being associated with injury; or he's not hurt at all, has a few days off and wants to screw with the media.

Posted by: NatsNut | March 13, 2008 3:01 PM | Report abuse

Don't forget to revive the lightning bolt hair question.

Posted by: NatsNut | March 13, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

um... if that's your point, then ping barry, not boz. your comment was that the post focused on the stadium angle, which was boz's post. putting in the comment about oconnor in the notebook has nothing to do with boz' column.

and the notebook does talk about oconnor. i won't take issue with the fact that it doesn't address something relatively minor like an adjustment in a spring training game. it's still of minor interest to most fans.

Posted by: 231 | March 13, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

As long as we're talking about coverage issues ;-) I was intrigued by seeing Eli Saslow's byline on page A1 this morning, telling us all about the Emperor's Club. I hadn't realized that the Post's news bureau had hired him away from the Philly Inquirer's sports desk.

Posted by: Coverage is lacking | March 13, 2008 3:16 PM | Report abuse

i would suggest that the topical posts of certain individuals is not totally indicative of the type (read "casual") fan that person is.

i would also suggest that one should not make assumptions of someones interest in reading or discussing based on those posts.

for instance, a posting of a nationals press release relative to the baseball community and new stadium doesnt represent that the person posting it played college baseball, does it?

and finally, i would suggest that a persons posting should not reflect anything about that persons ability to have intellectual discussions about the minutiae of the game. that person may just not want open those discussions in this forum.

someone asked why particular posters are the recipients of venom and negativity? have you even seen any negatives related to casual banter of haikus? maybe someone doesnt feel the need to take themselves as seriously as those beating an agenda drum?

Posted by: theraph | March 13, 2008 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Had it read (NPA^1.83 x NPD^1.83), it would have worked.

To be honest, replace the x with a +, and it's the Pythagoran W/L formula on Credit to Bill James on that one.


The only problem with MplsJohn's formulation of ilk is that NPA^1.83 in the numerator would cancel out with NPA^1.83 in the denominator.

Posted by: John in Mpls | March 13, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Beat the haiku drum.
You can predict its rythym
much, much, easier.


maybe someone doesnt feel the need to take themselves as seriously as those beating an agenda drum?

Posted by: John in Mpls | March 13, 2008 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Hey CiL, Eli Saslow has been writing for the Post, mostly in Sports, for several years at least. Are you sure it's not your reading that is lacking?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 13, 2008 3:38 PM | Report abuse

the coverage drum
rhythm more predictable
please give me haikus

Posted by: NatsNut | March 13, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

theraph you already broke your promise, you couldn't even last a day! Shouldn't you be posting about baseball, if at all?

Would one be beating an "agenda drum" if one repeatedly posted about how the Nats need better starting pitching, and one's posts reflected recent developments that he believed supported that "agenda"? How about if someone repeatedly posted about how Lopez stinks and used his most recent performance to back that up?

As to the venom and negativity, do you ever think that it might be the posters spewing (and initiating) such venom and trying to censor others who might be the ones taking things a bit too seriously around here?

Posted by: Coverage is lacking | March 13, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Anonymous poster, my joke about Saslow went over your head. See his WP article about last Sept. 22 Nats-Phillies game for more information.

Posted by: Coverage is lacking | March 13, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Brett Boone's 162 game averages are:
AB/608 R/84 H/162 HR/23 BI/93 AVG/.266

What if instead of being traded he made the team and batted 5th/6th?

And what if Felipe Lopez bounced back to his career 162 game average of:
AB/604 R/85 H/156 HR/14 BI/64 AVG/.258

Then you could have a decent lineup of

Lopez SS
Milledge CF
Zimmerman 3B
Johnson 1B
Boone 2B
Kearns RF
Pena LF
LoDucca C

With an above average bench that included Dmitri, A.Boone, Machoviak, Estrada, Belliard, and Dukes.

In the NL, this could be an above average offensive team instead of last year's weak unit. Boone looks like he can still play superior defense as well. Johnson has lost some range, but is still better than Dmitri defensively - and that would improve Zimm and Flop.

Can this team be 10 games better than last year? I think so. I think the bullpen is great even in the new park. I think the starting pitching is no worse than last year and probably better by year end. They're not contenders yet, but they should be entertaining.

Posted by: NatBisquit | March 13, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Spring Training Query: We'll be in Florida next week and plan to see a couple of games. But we also note that no Nats game is scheduled for March 19. Can we expect the team to be working out at Space Coast Stadium that day? If so, is there a best time to go, particularly if my daughter wants to see Ryan, Dmitri, and other regulars? Any thoughts/suggestions from experienced Spring Training visitors would be much welcomed. Thanks and regards, Keith

Posted by: Keith in Arlington | March 13, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Enough with the peace
Let's make poems just as irate
Time for Battle Haiku

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | March 13, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Catching up from past posts, 6th & D, I noticed the same thing about the shadows earlier (even posted a Haiku about it -- I'm in the pro-literary ilk), and was wondering if the same shadows would still be around when winter turned to spring, then summer. I haven't done an analysis lately but it seems possible that pitchers will have an advantage when they're in the sun and the batter is in the shade.

Oh, and I'll be in Viera March 20-21, after taking daughters to Disney, hope to run into some of y'all.

Posted by: Bob L. Head | March 13, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Battle haiku is on.
It will keep you busy on March 19th
while I'm sitting on the beach.


Posted by: i hate walks | March 13, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Stop with the Haiku.
It bugs me really a lot.
Let's just talk baseball.

Posted by: 6th and D | March 13, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

5-7-5, with a pause at the end of the first or second line (usually the second), and ideally, a reference to the season and/or nature.

Posted by: (Some) Haikus are Lacking | March 13, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

Haikus are Lacking is looking at you, 506 and i hate walks.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 13, 2008 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Oops, sorry that I don't recall the details of a 6-month-old article and its associated NJ blog comments. I'll go grind my ax somewhere else, as there appears to be a waiting list here.

Posted by: Anonymous (Not Eli Saslow) | March 13, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Lacking thinks he's bad.
But I will scorch him like a
Summer day in June

Posted by: Anonymous | March 13, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

As most everyone (save at least 1 person I guess) knows the Eli Saslow comment working for the Pilly Paper was a well earned shot the post self inflected.

Barry you did say you would address just how that amazingly poor judgment at the Editor on duty that night. As I recall from your post the next day even you were somewhat embarrassed, but I guess you have your exit strategy in place and we will never get an explanation will we?

Posted by: JayB | March 13, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

New new new new new
Post post post post post post post,
Barry Barry Barry Barry Barry

Posted by: Silly | March 13, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

Crdinals signed Kyle Lohse.

Posted by: Anonymous | March 13, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

If this were New York
Zimmerman's hurt hip trumps all
Others also play

Posted by: Positively Half St. | March 13, 2008 6:29 PM | Report abuse

At Viera, and just asked Nick to see his bolts. He smiled and said he hasn't done it yet, but he would next time he cut his hair. He could not commit to having it done by the weekend.

Posted by: bharral | March 13, 2008 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Second the recommendation for Goombay's, great seafood place across A1A from the condo we rent. Went there twice this trip (after eating there on 2007 and 2006 trips). Mahi taco out of this world. But no crane on menu.

Posted by: Sandhills Native | March 14, 2008 7:05 AM | Report abuse

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