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Jim Zorn, Take Heart

In the wake of new Redskins head coach Jim Zorn's gaffe at his introduction press conference, where he incorrectly identified the Redskins' team colors as "Maroon, black and yellow," I decided to take an informal poll to find out how many members of the Washington Nationals know that the Redskins sport the 'burgundy and gold.'

By Jonathan Forsythe  |  March 19, 2008; 11:00 AM ET
 
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Redskins? Never heard of them.

"Here We Go Steelers!"

Posted by: Section 505/203 | March 19, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

AWOOGA AWOOGA

Posted by: Yinzer Pronvincialism Alarm | March 19, 2008 11:17 AM | Report abuse

Now go ask the Redskins if they know the colors of the Nationals.

Josh Smoker!

Posted by: John in Mpls | March 19, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Boring!

Posted by: Tippy Canoe | March 19, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Not that I give a flying burrito about the Redskins, but how many of the Nats interviewed are slated to be the Redskin's head coach?

Posted by: joebleux | March 19, 2008 11:24 AM | Report abuse

dear whomever it concerns,

i'm pretty sick of hearing what nationals players think of anything redskins. try and make the filler more relevant please.

love, longterm.

p.s. trade belliard if you must

Posted by: longterm | March 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Report abuse

Jonathan:

I have thoroughly enjoyed your work up to this point. However, for the love of all that is good and decent, remove this video immediately. It plays into the "the whole world revolves around the Redskins" mentality that I think is abhorrent to many Nats fans.

Posted by: #4 | March 19, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

Wow. Unappreciative this morning, gang?

I thought this was funny, my co-worker and I had a good laugh about it. Say what you want about JP, he knew the hometown team.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | March 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Report abuse

Isn't there a Redskins blog?

Posted by: G-town | March 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Report abuse

it's bad enough we're losing barry to give that overexposed team even more coverage, but why add more insult to injury?

Posted by: natsscribe | March 19, 2008 11:47 AM | Report abuse

You know what would help our team get like more around DC and thereby fill seats and force the Post to cover it more?

Being unrepentant jerks to everyone else. Then they'll like us!

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | March 19, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Who cares? I'm glad that so many Nats got this wrong. The DC sports world does not begin and end with the loser Redskins, even if the media thinks that it does.

It will be a great day when the Post videographer is asking the Redskins' players at Training Camp what the Nats' colors are and whether they think Teddy will *finally* win a race.

Posted by: Coverage is lacking | March 19, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

This is hilarious!

Posted by: samantha7 | March 19, 2008 11:54 AM | Report abuse

Dear god you folks need to relax.

Posted by: Brian | March 19, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

i think the redskins are so popular in a perverse sort of way because you don't have to know anything about football to follow them. redskins fans know only three teams in the nfl - theirs, dallas and whichever team besides dallas the team plays that week. nats fans are much more cerebral.

Posted by: natsscribe | March 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

This is hilarious. Doesn't it show the INSIGNIFICANCE of the Redskins? It sparks the football/baseball rivalry in me.

Posted by: NatsNut | March 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

"redskins fans know only three teams in the nfl - theirs, dallas and whichever team besides dallas the team plays that week. nats fans are much more cerebral."

"The DC sports world does not begin and end with the loser Redskins, even if the media thinks that it does."

"it's bad enough we're losing barry to give that overexposed team even more coverage, but why add more insult to injury?"

"However, for the love of all that is good and decent, remove this video immediately."

"I'm pretty sick of hearing what nationals players think of anything redskins. try and make the filler more relevant please."

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | March 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Just because you nats fans know deep-down that your team has ABSOLUTELY no chance of competing this year don't get all pissy about it and whine like little girls. You all know the REDSKINS are the #1 sports team in this town and always will be.

Stop getting your panties all in a bunch and go out and buy some 'Skins merchandise.

Posted by: Dan Snyder | March 19, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Don't listen to the naysayers Forsythe. We like seeing a little levity from the players. This is great. With sound effects, even better. (loved the crickets chirping).

Posted by: NatsNut | March 19, 2008 12:06 PM | Report abuse

@Dan Snyder

isn't there an nfl bylaw stating that no team can win the super bowl if the owner is shorter than the lombardi trophy?

Posted by: natsscribe | March 19, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

This is all in fun, folks. It would be fun to ask Redskins about the Nats during their training camp, as well.

Anyway, if I were a baseball player right now, I would be excited to talk about anything that wasn't "Who do you think will be the starting first baseman," or any question that required me to answer, "Well, I'll take it one day at a time, try to stay within myself, and go out there and have fun."

Most of these guys aren't Andy Van Slyke. I am sure that the press guys down there are happy to ask something different as well.;

Posted by: Positively Half St | March 19, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

Come on guys, this was funny! I agree with NatsNut:

"Don't listen to the naysayers Forsythe. We like seeing a little levity from the players. This is great. With sound effects, even better. (loved the crickets chirping)."

Posted by: Boston | March 19, 2008 12:17 PM | Report abuse

you all are making me sick. how about a little hometeam loyalty. i don't know a THING about baseball, but because the nats are a washington team and I've only seen one game I'll say they'd be the team I'd support if I followed baseball.

It's really sad that you all get SO defensive about the football team of the area. The video is just for fun.

Lighten up and show some respect for DC

Posted by: remus | March 19, 2008 12:21 PM | Report abuse

Wow, whats wrong with you all today?


And do the Redskins know the Nats' colors? I've seen Clinton Portis, Chris Cooley, the late Sean Taylor among others at Nats games...wearing Nats hats.


Now tell me, what did the Redskins do to you as children that makes you hate them so much?

Posted by: Skins_Nats_fan | March 19, 2008 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I especially loved turquoise and red. I also loved someone saying blue and silver, like the Cowboys.

This was fun. Any chance to watch Ray King laugh is good enough for me, too.

Josh Smoker!!

Posted by: Positively Half St | March 19, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

from now on, I think I'll sign all of my posts...

Posted by: Josh Smoker!!! | March 19, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

@Remus

Our scrappy Nats are fighting for visibility and respect on the Washington sporting scene. The visibility is going to lowered even further when our beat writer goes to cover one of the most overexposed teams in any professional sport.

Posted by: natsscribe | March 19, 2008 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I knew it. It had to come. It was a ticking time bomb.

Cue Coverage is Lacking....

_________________________

Our scrappy Nats are fighting for visibility and respect on the Washington sporting scene. The visibility is going to lowered even further when our beat writer goes to cover one of the most overexposed teams in any professional sport.

Posted by: AND there it is... | March 19, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Boy, you Nationals fans sure are a surly bunch aren't ya? This is because, deep down, you all know that your precious Nats won't amount to a hill-of-beans this year so all you can do is take it out on other sports organizations. Talk about sad! You all wish you could have an organization like the Redskins running the Nats and wish you had the same kind of passionate fan-base.

The fact that you try to bash fellow Nats players and fans alike for keeping up with the Redskins is downright laughable.

Posted by: O's Exec | March 19, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Pretty surprised by the negative reation....I love both the nats AND skins. I thought most others did too. Oh well.

ps- at least the people who post on the skins blog don't take themelves this seriously...

Posted by: .390 | March 19, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

Even that D.C. United soccer team has a more passionate fan-base than your beloved Nationals.

Now that's funny and sad.

Posted by: O's Exec | March 19, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Nope. Don't need to say anything much here for now. Thanks for thinking of me though :-)

Posted by: Coverage is lacking | March 19, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

I hate the Redskins but I could care less, this is a priceless way to meet the Nats. So much personality shines through in these short little snippets.

Posted by: GoNats | March 19, 2008 12:40 PM | Report abuse

we all know that many of these fans are "lacking" in other ares as well. Or so their wifes or "partners" will admit.

Posted by: not the only thing lacking | March 19, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

And another thing, this probably has to do more with culture than anything else. If you look at the diversity of the Nats and the diversity of the Redskins and line things up - you can see how there would be more Redskins who know the Nats than vice versa.

Posted by: GoNats | March 19, 2008 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Come on, tell me you didn't think that video was funny?

Hail to the Senators!

Wait, I mean: Go Nats!

Posted by: _Stumped_ | March 19, 2008 12:43 PM | Report abuse

I hate the Redskins but I could care less, this is a priceless way to meet the Nats. So much personality shines through in these short little snippets.


Posted by: GoNats | March 19, 2008 12:40 PM
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Actually the correct usage is "couldn't care less."

Isn't that right Section 506 (before moving)

Posted by: GRAMMAR POLICE | March 19, 2008 12:44 PM | Report abuse

@Orioles Boy,

When you speak of "a hill of beans," are you referring to the pitching staff that will be lucky to finish above norfolk?

Posted by: natsscribe | March 19, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Forsythe, you're the man. This video is hilarious and i'd LOVE to see more like it. It shows a humorous side to the nationals that i love. I am all for anything that links My beloved Nats to my beloved Skins. I wouldn't mind if they also asked the starting goalie for Caps or the forwards for DC united. Hell i wanna see if they can tell you the starting 5 for the Mystics. This is a DC team, DC is a sports town and I for one love all of the sports within. I was disappointed when United lost in the playoffs and ive never been to a game. Show some support for your city and stop complaining about the redskins.


Give me more, more, more of these vids whether or not they deal with the redskins. Keep up the good work John!

Posted by: VT Nats Fan | March 19, 2008 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"You all wish you could have an organization like the Redskins running the Nats and wish you had the same kind of passionate fan-base."

tee hee hee. That's funny! I only WISH Dan Snyder owned the Nats; what a dream come true that would be. Not to mention the "passionate fanbase," who threaten on a daily basis to give up their season tickets because some 'Skin dropped a pass or something. The Redskins are mediocrity personified. (Thus, they have a lot in common with the O's.)

Posted by: Capitol City Goofball | March 19, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

@re: Orioles Boy

If any team should know how the Redskins run (ruin?) a professional sports organizations, it's the AngelO's.

Posted by: natsscribe | March 19, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

I don't think the lashout is meant to be anti-Redskins, but more to keep the Nats blog about Nats news, and to keep the Skins stuff on the Skins blog. That's fair.

Posted by: G-town | March 19, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Surely the Caps, Wizards or DC United would have gotten this trivia question correct. What a joke.

Besides Skins fans and Skins haters not a ton of people associated with sports even the NFL (see Zorn) will know the "technical" verbiage of the Redskins colors.

Its March...ask the Nats players thoughts on their brackets (NCAA) or if u want to keep the local flavor brewing indulge in their thoughts on Gtowns chances...

Its really not that hard to be a reporter...

Posted by: SkinsNatsDIEHARD | March 19, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

Also, even as a Hokie, i'll give credit to anyone who said "Maroon and Gold" instead of "Burgundy and Gold" I have plenty of Hokies gear that matches my redskins gear and Visa Versa.

Posted by: VT Nats Fan | March 19, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

This has nothing to do with coverage. This was a fun little thing and the temper tantrum that has erupted because of it is going to deprive all of us of our Oreos at naptime, just because some of you wanted double-stuft instead.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | March 19, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

Everyone needs to chill. If anything, it's just a funny video making light of the Jim Zorn error.

Posted by: Hayden | March 19, 2008 12:56 PM | Report abuse

This was great - a brief way to get to know our Nats a little better. There were a lot of personalities on display in that video. I just wish we could have had some captions with names. Gotta be honest, I can't tell my Josh Smoker from John Lannan from Josh Whitney.

As far as the Skins bashing - here's the deal Nats fans. This team ain't gonna succeed, in the sense of becoming a full-fledged widely embraced franchise, unless a lotta Skins fans hop on board. The average sports fan in this city is a Skins fan. If 50% of them become baseball fans too, then all of a sudden you've got a nice fan base.

I'm up in Philly, of all the God forsaken places to be a DC sports fan, and guess what, the fans of one team are fans of the others. Eagles go to Phillies games, and vice versa, and they all used to go see the Sixers when AI was in town. You don't have to love football, or any sport, but don't stand in the way of some cross-pollination. That's what makes a great sports town.

Posted by: Mo Monroe | March 19, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Well, I thought this was absolutely hilarious! Loved the background sound effects, especially the crickets and Jeopardy theme with Nick Johnson!

Posted by: misschatter | March 19, 2008 2:01 PM | Report abuse

So sue me, I don't get past the name thing.
It's like biting into an apple, and finding half a worm.

Posted by: CEvans | March 19, 2008 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Wow, putting Philadelphia forth as "a great sports town"?? As in, beating up Santa Claus Philadelphia?


Posted by: MIB | March 19, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Jonathan, my man, keep 'em coming.

Josh Smoker!

Posted by: John in Mpls | March 19, 2008 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, Mo, I don't think it's required. I think "sports fans" generally have a wide overlap, at least on ball sports, so it may seem that way, but as we know, correlation is not causation.

Posted by: MIB | March 19, 2008 2:18 PM | Report abuse

Sheesh, I thought this was funny, and it was making a bit light of Jim Zorn's error during his press conference when he misspoke about the 'Skins colors. I don't know a lot about Nats' players and it was fun to see a little bit of their personality.

And then I realized that our city has some jerky baseball fans. You guys DO realize you are in DC, right? Where the Redskins have been a team for 75 years? Of course there is going to be crossover - what did you expect? Where do you think a great deal of the fanbase will come from in the D.C. area?

And, sorry, but the Redskins have a proud tradition, in spite of the snarky comments.

If you are going to hate D.C. traditions, maybe the city isn't for you.

Posted by: Baculus | March 19, 2008 2:19 PM | Report abuse

DC has a lot of traditions. They aren't all proud, or worth being proud of.
Not the place for Barbaro's daily massage, here, but it used to be traditional to feed Christians to the lions. That don't make it right.

Posted by: CE | March 19, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

This is hilarious, and I love that our Nats don't know the exact colors of Redskins. It's all the more endearing.

Posted by: sEC 133 | March 19, 2008 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow, putting Philadelphia forth as "a great sports town"?? As in, beating up Santa Claus Philadelphia?

Posted by: MIB | March 19, 2008 02:10 PM

Looka here - I'm as DC as they come - born and raised in Ward 1, mumbo sauce eating, gogo listening, brought up not just on the Skins but on GTown, the Bullets, and Len Bias. My dad told me stories about Griffith Stadium and I've rooted for the Nats from day one. I'm a gigantic fan of all things DC. Having said that, I live in Philly, and yes, the fans here are often ignorant, way too emotionally invested in their teams, and full of vitriol. They're also, on average, much smarter, more passionate, and less fragmented in their rooting interests than DC fans. I think any sports writer, or person who has a chance to see the sports cultures of different cities up close, will tell you that Philly is a great sports town. DC is a great pro football town, and a great college and high school basketball town, but not yet a great sports town. In order to become so, people need to diversify their interests and not hate on other teams/colleges because of perceived media biases or lack of respect from other fans. It also wouldn't hurt to show a little pluck now and then. RFK was pitiful last season when it got overrun by Phillies fans. I hope that won't happen in Nats Park. Go Nats! Hail to the Redskins! That's the Reason I'm a Bullets Fan!

Posted by: Mo Monroe | March 19, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

I haven't seen the video so I have no idea if it's funny or not funny or whatever. But good grief!!

Do some of you think that Red Sox fans can't be Patriots fans or Browns fans can't be Indians fans. Since I can now be a Washington Baseball fan again does that mean I should stop being a Washington football fan??

Posted by: Natstivity1959 | March 19, 2008 2:32 PM | Report abuse

can we just make the nats journal a subcategory to skins section already?

talking about expanding a consumer base and how to overlap local sports franchises is one thing (not the posts job in my opinion, although i can see the correlation and reasons for the online effort) but calling out "jerky baseball" fans with the "love it or leave it" mindset is quite another. i forget, who is overreacting here?

but yes, keep the videos coming.

Posted by: longterm | March 19, 2008 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The fact that Oriole's fans come here and talk about how bad the Nats are is hysterical. Looking back at the last 3 seasons...hmmmm...who hasn't won a season series against the Nats? Orioles. Who's won more games each season? Nats. I try not to hate the Orioles, I just hate their owner...but some of their fans make it exceptionally hard to not despise everything about that team and city.

Go Nats. Go Skins. Go Wiz. Go Caps. Go United.

Posted by: BadKarma723 | March 19, 2008 3:03 PM | Report abuse

I think alot of the whiners today about the 'Skins/Nats need to change me.

Posted by: Tampon | March 19, 2008 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Wow, just wow. This is DC, folks. We root for both teams. It's not either/or.

Posted by: Mike | March 19, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

"Talking about expanding a consumer base and how to overlap local sports franchises is one thing (not the posts job in my opinion, although i can see the correlation and reasons for the online effort) but calling out "jerky baseball" fans with the "love it or leave it" mindset is quite another. i forget, who is overreacting here?"

When folks bash a local team with "jerky" comments, then yes, the label will be applied. (Especially when the Redskins aren't rivals at all.) After all, such comments do not exactly endear yourself to the local population who are football rabid, and have been that way for decades.

You don't have to love the Redskins - just don't be surprised when you receive a strong reaction due to snide comments.

Posted by: Baculus | March 19, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

baculus- if you're so rabid maybe you can pay my season tickets this year for both teams. i'm sure you mean well but i never said "redskins suck" or "i love the cowboys" or whatever else it could be that keeps you up late at night.

oddly enough, i am now more interested in what nationals players have to say about the redskins than any redskin fan. take that to heart.

Posted by: longterm | March 19, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Forsythe, that was classic. Good gravy Nats Nuts we don't need the B Teamer mentality in here! That was about us, not them, in case you missed it.

Posted by: DottDC | March 19, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Now tell me, what did the Redskins do to you as children that makes you hate them so much?

Posted by: Skins_Nats_fan | March 19, 2008 12:24 PM

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I dunno. Luckily I wasn't a child during the Turner/Marty/Spurrier era. But that woulda done it.

Posted by: natswriter | March 19, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Pay attention Nats fans. Mo Monroe is dead on right.

DC sports fans seems to mirror DC-area residents in general. No sense of broader civic pride whatsoever (unless you count passionate love of your bethesda or alexandria neighborhood as civic pride).

As long as the DC metro population is dominated by a snobbish belief that it's beneath them to cross a river to go out to dinner (I'm talking about people on BOTH sides here), we will remain a 2nd-rate sports town. The great sports towns have one thing in common -- civic identity and pride.

Posted by: www.letteddywin.com | March 19, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

"baculus- if you're so rabid maybe you can pay my season tickets this year for both teams. i'm sure you mean well but i never said "redskins suck" or "i love the cowboys" or whatever else it could be that keeps you up late at night."

I never addressed you personally - so what's your point? Because, so far, I fail to find one in your interweb posting attempt.

Posted by: Baculus | March 19, 2008 5:17 PM | Report abuse

I love the Redskins, but when I click on Nationals Journal, it's to hear about the Nats. I don't think that's too much to ask. I wouldn't want to read about the Nationals on Redskins Insider either.

I got all excited because I thought we were going to get a Wily Mo Pena video. Get well soon Wily!

Posted by: Tank | March 19, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Who are the Redskins? Are they in the American League?

Posted by: Jeeves | March 19, 2008 5:59 PM | Report abuse

Wow. Looks like drama class let out early today.

Posted by: LANats | March 19, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

This is Barry showing he has already gone over to the darks side - I mean maroon, black & yellow.

Posted by: Tom | March 19, 2008 8:08 PM | Report abuse

This is Barry showing he has already gone over to the darks side - I mean maroon, black & yellow.

Posted by: Tom | March 19, 2008 8:09 PM | Report abuse

Couldn't watch this earlier as I was at work, but I found it really really amusing. We need more stuff like this to break things up.

Lighten up Francis.

Posted by: Bazz | March 19, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

So let me get this straight: it's ok to hate on guys playing the game I follow and love, who might even have played for my home team at one time, or will someday, because they're playing in a nearby city for another team. But it's not OK to be bored with, tired of, or offended by the racist name of, a team here playing a sport I don't much care about and can't avoid? Is that about right?
I follow the Wizards, hope they win; the Capitals, less so but still; I even check in on the Mystics from time to time. OK, I don't watch soccer, but I wish them well, too. But not the football team. No sir. I curse them, and I don't mean "cuss."

Posted by: CE | March 19, 2008 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Gee, Maybe we could ask the Nats about Brandon Lloyd? or the draft.

Definatly want to ask Zorn and their players if he knows who Acta is on their journal. I can hear the screams now.

Posted by: Section Zero | March 19, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

CE

Don't have a PMS moment based on the Skins brother! If you want to bring race into it, there are plenty of baseball teams, and college teams that have native american references as mascots!?!? Being that I am part native american myself, I find it to be a way to bring our heritage into everyday life so americans won't forget about our dieing culture.

I thought the video was funny and hope the Nats and the Redskins both over achieve this year and make DC proud!!

Posted by: worried about CE | March 20, 2008 1:09 AM | Report abuse

I'm in the "this was funny and was about getting to know the Nats" camp, myself. Then again, I'm also a diehard skins fan who has, in these few years since The Return, also become a diehard nats fan. Love 'em both!

Posted by: NatsFly | March 20, 2008 10:09 AM | Report abuse

Yeah some of you guys need to loosen those panties. All Washington D.C. teams stand shoulder to shoulder as representatives of the D.C. sports world. If you follow one, at least have the respect and common sense to expect that others probably follow other D.C. teams. And the common D.C. sportsfan will likely be a skins fan, get over it.

My question is, so what? Why all the spite against the skins, the hometown football team? Media? Really? Come on.

Hail to the Redskins! Go Nats!

Posted by: Chris H. | March 20, 2008 7:31 PM | Report abuse

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